June 10, 2026 ⢠27 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you live in Virginia?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I Doville?
Speaker 3 (00:03):
Excellent, I do too, And I don't know the rules.
What are our rules in terms of owning alligators?
Speaker 4 (00:10):
I would hope that the rules are not.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Wouldn't you think you can't imagine that we should.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Prohibit wouldn't you think alligators are against the law to own?
Speaker 5 (00:22):
I would sign technically yes, I would.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, Like I can't think of a reason to own
an alligator. Now, Listen, Not every alligator is the size
of like what you see on like cheat them or
like the ones that you see like walking on those
golf courses in in Florida.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
But like some of them, some of them can be smaller.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, but and they're still dangerous, right like alligator they're
wild animals.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
They're wild animals.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Can you own an alligator in Virginia? Can you own
an alligator in Maryland? Can you own an alligator in
d C? Do I have rules that prohibit that?
Speaker 6 (00:58):
Well, we've seen some in DC be pulled out homes
the okay?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
But is it legal?
Speaker 6 (01:02):
I think they're taken because it's not, oh okay?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Or are they just too are they are they?
Speaker 6 (01:07):
I mean like the conditions or well, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Mean, you shouldn't house it in the bathtub.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
That's usually where that's where they pull them out. Yeah,
dog baths.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
No, here's the reason I asked. So there was I'll
tell you how I got there. Right.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
So, there was a there was a story out of
Louisiana yesterday. Did you see the story at a Louisiana
guy is guy, guy's drunk driving, right, and the cops
start giving chase and the guys, you know, like, he
takes off from the cops. The cops start chasing him.
He's drunk, He's swerving all over the place. And it's
not it's not New Orleans, but it's somewhere in Louisiana swamps.
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So anyway, the guy pulls off on the side of
the road and was like, I'm going to run. So
he starts running and to get away from the cops,
he's like watch this. He goes into a swamp to
get away from the cops, thinking the cops aren't going
to chase me into the water and the cops, the
cops have like like guns out, like like where's.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
This dude going.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
He gets into the swamp, a freaking alligator eats.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Him, like dad eats him.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Whole.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Yeah, Diane, the do you know what I meant? I mean, like,
didn't just rip his arm off the No, it attacked him,
and so did he eat him or did it attack him?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Hold on, let me see what my story says. Let
me see what my story were.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
They eventually able to arrest him.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
A motorist was driving while under the influence and was
attacked by an alligator after he left into the swamp
in Saint Charles Parish. This forty year old guy was
eventually tail Oh sustained injuries both his arms.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Okay, both his arms.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But there's the cop has bodycam footage and you see
the alligator thrashing this dude.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
In the water.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yes, he goes running in and the gator is all
over him.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
But the injuries were to what his arms? That's it?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Um No fined.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Toyota Supra searching the area here we go impairment. Found
him later walking nearby swamp, was attacked by an alligator.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Finally found him using a drone. Oh, he managed to
pull himself to the shore. Uh treatment Yeah, so I
guess he's all right.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
So before Hoby asked, his hole was intact because you
know it's coming if I was a suspect and you
were an alligator, would you eat the whole?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
But anyway, so I'm reading that and then and you
see the footage. The footage is crazy. But then that
got me to a story out of Indiana. I don't
know anything about Auburn, Indiana.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
What part of the state is that? You don't even
know that here where you point.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Like right here, now, I know that that Michigan is
the glove, but he doesn't. Indiana kind of shaped like
your hand if you move your thumb.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
In that Indiana that analogy. It's up in the northeast corner.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, that's where I was over here.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Definitely down south, you were down in like Louisville.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't know where Auburn,
Alabama is. It's north Indiana, Indiana.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So anyway, there's a guy what is his name? What
is his name?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Mark Colehorst, who is known by mars arc because he
does like exotic pet shows.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
At like schools and like he's got a bunch.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Of animals at his house and like he'll go to
he'll go to schools, he'll go to like summer camps
and stuff. And he brings his animals to show off
to the kids or like whatever the whatever. The function is, well,
big happenings in his neighborhood. His alligator. His alligator is
(04:56):
named Irwin. It is escape from the house.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
It's just gone.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah. Oh, and people in the neighborhood are flipping out, Okay,
flipping out? Yeah, so Irwin is gone?
Speaker 6 (05:08):
Is he named after Steve Irwin?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Maybe it's just Irwin the alligator. I have no idea,
but it's out. So the neighbors are flipping out, like,
I don't think I'm gonna I will bet a million
dollars nobody in my neighborhood owns a alligator.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Because you think they're following law.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well number one. Horrible pet, horrible pet.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
We haven't gotten any clarification on the local rules.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Kristin, will you will you see if somebody knows my
local jurisdictional rules in terms of owning alligators specifically, this
guy owns a bunch of stuff, but alligators specifically eight
six six to Elliott eight six six two three five
five four six eight And listen, I get that there
are people who own snakes. I get that there are
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people who own lizards, like I don't want a big
snake gaping somebody's house and running around the neighborhood would
definitely have seen that, or people who have like those
big like lizards. But I get that that you see
that would still terrify me if I walked out to
go to work and there's like a big monitor lizard
in the in the neighborhood. But what are the rules
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on owning an alligator?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Did I not give the number sorry eight six six
to Elliott eight six six two three five five four
six eight.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I wouldn't even know where to get one.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Gotta be some exotic pet retailer, right.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So anyway, Mark's arc is telling the people in the
neighborhood y'all chill like it's fine. Says he doesn't own
any pose any threat to humans. He eats mice and
that's about it. It will not attack people, it will
not chase people. He tries to avoid people, now that's
what he says.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
He's like, he eats mice until he takes a look
at a human calf as like.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Oh, what's some of that?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
No, you know what they're afraid of? Honestly, So Mark
says they're fine. The neighbors say, it's not the neighbors.
The neighbors sing a different story. Hands fingers a mouse,
it'll eat me whole. But if I'm a kid, it
still can bite you. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, it's not
(07:17):
going to ingest me, but it's going to attack me.
But Indiana's laws and listen, Indiana isn't an alligator state, right.
Florida is an alligator state. South Carolina is an alligator state. Georgia,
I'm assuming in some areas is an alligator where, yeah,
like they live.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
There, Like do you assume them on the boa?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I don't, but people talking about seeing them on the
side of other sides.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Of the road. Indiana is not an alligator state.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Indiana allows alligators to be kept privately without any type
of permitting, as long as they're five feet or smaller.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
Five feet is pretty big.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
It's me, yes, it's an alligator.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
A five foot alligator crawled in here and.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
You don't but you don't even need a permit for it,
Like that's legal, Wow, you can have you can. And
that's why Mark's yeah, and he's like, oh, he's only
like two and a half three feet long. And the
neighbors are like, listen, we've had problems with Mark before.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
I was just reading about the past fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, animals have escaped from his house before.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
That includes a pony, a tortoise, a pig, an emu
got loose and they all got started going around. Now
they were all rescued except for the emu. That one
was posing a traffic threat and Mark shot it.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
Well it was after three hours of chasing him. Oh wait,
what are the accusations about a second gator? Did you
read about this that I didn't see? He has been
accused of two gators getting out. Oh he said those
(09:02):
statements are completely false and only one gator has escaped,
So get over it.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
How is it legal without a permit to have a
five foot alligator?
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Well it's neighboring Ohio, which we learned years ago.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Oh that's the wild West. Yes, that's the Wild West.
Where am I going? Kristen Line four? Hi Joe at
the morning?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Hey is this name?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Who's this?
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Hey? This is John So Look I'm forty six. When
I was sixteen years old, my best friend in Damascus, Maryland,
Montgoment County had a pet alligator. They legally bought from.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
The pet store.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Was about three foot long. That had it for about
three months. And so the things dripped the crop out
of my boy's arm and then they got rid of it.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Wait it bit your buddy, It bit his arm.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Yeah, and I tore it up. He had to go
to the hospital. Stuff like did like dripped.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
His arm up.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Oh my god, I would have be And you said
they bought it legally in front.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
At the pet store and it had like this big
tank of water and craft. No, they this was thirty
years ago, but this was montgomer County and they let
the pest store and what did.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
They they like? And but you said they got rid
of it.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I don't even know how you dispose of an alligator
of front door.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Open later.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
The pet store.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That makes sense, That makes sense. No, that's what you
should do. That's what you should do. All right, very good.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Yeah, you shouldn't hold an alligator for nothing.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Like like the Uh yeah, no, I would never. I
would never the I told you the what you call it?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Halper Jeff Helper, who used to play here, lives in
obviously is an assistant coach in Tampa. Yeah, terrified terrified alligators.
If I ever saw an alligator in the wild, I
would I'd not be good.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I would not be good.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I've never seen one in the wild, and I know,
like when your parents lived in Floora that they would
see him. And I know people who live in Florida
and South Carolina, Carolina, I would flip out.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
So on the Facebook group Nosy Neighbors of Auburn, Indiana,
obviously there are some people claiming here that there's a
lot of mistreatment of animals and that he has killed
alligators in the past when they've gotten loose.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
How many guy, does Mark have?
Speaker 6 (11:34):
How many total?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I I no, no, But I mean if he's killing him,
he has I think he does.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Say he has fifty five different species of animals, Like
is this his backyard or is this a zoo? It's
it's it's pretty, they stay dirty, they may get well.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I'm also with no kidding real Can people visit his property? Oh?
I don't think so. I don't. I don't think it's a.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, he travels to go out and do like these
exotic pet shows. It's also Auburn, which I'm assuming is
a touch more rural than other parts of the Indianapolis.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Like there's one here from nosy neighbors of Auburn posting
another lost alligator. There's a picture of a resident holding
what looks like a three foot alligator.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
As long as it's.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Under five, it's cool.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
You're good to go. Hi, Ellie in the morning. Hello?
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Is this me?
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Who's this?
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Hi?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Who is this Sarah?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yes? What can I do for you? Sarah?
Speaker 7 (12:41):
So?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I my boyfriend's grandparents used to be landlords and they
had a rental property up in Baltimore County, I think
in like the Towson area. And attendant left and they
left their pet alligator upstairs. So when the family came
in to clean out the house, they had no idea
that there was a giant alligator upstairs.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
How big was the alligator?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It was like six feet or something. And they had
like a whole room that was like a pool room,
and it was dedicated to the alligator just upstairs.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
In the house. God I met that stunk, the musty, moldy.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
What did they what I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I don't I guess you call wildlife and say come
get the alligator. I'm not touching it. I wouldn't even
know what to do. So it sounds like so Maryland
is clearly legal. If Damascus has it in towsand has it,
Maryland's legal to have alligators.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Well, how long ago, though, was that purchase at the
pet store sounded like a wild.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Well it probably happened like at least twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Okay, so maybe it goes back. So can I not
buy like it's all like the only the only thing.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
That I could remember.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And I can't remember where we were, but I remember,
thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
We were when when one of the.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Boys we were on a like a like a tournament
weekend and we went to a hotel and I can't
remember where it was, but we went to a like
we went to a tournament to play. And in the hotel,
we went down for breakfast on Sunday morning, and they
were doing like an exotic animal gathering in the hotel
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and people were walking in with like buckets and crates
and stuff like that, and people were.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Walking out of there. Now nobody was walking out with alligators.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
But it was all kinds of like turtles, rabbits, although
I don't know if rabbits an exotic animal.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
But like a food the.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I mean for some people, no, some people just skim them,
but the the no, but like there was a whole
thing going on at a hotel, a hotel, they were
doing it.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
At least that's a show and there's context. What was
the hotel last summer in Fairfax with the crocodile or
the alligator were driving through?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
They were driving through right, but it did it was
right by the pentagon. U was that a crocodile or alligator?
It's it's the same.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
No, aren't all alligators crocodilians? But not all crocodiles are alligators?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You know what it is? They're all terrifying and they
you know where they don't belong in your house.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
I have more important issues to worry about.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I just talked to I just talked to a guy
from Louisiana, where they're everywhere, and he says, you'd be
stupid to try.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
To handle one. You sound like mister ed.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Diane Hi Elliott the morning my own troubles.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Hi. Yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 8 (15:32):
Hi?
Speaker 9 (15:33):
I'm just not going to say my name because yeah,
but I had a friend in high school who had
a tet alligator, got a five foot alligator that lived
in his basement in Montgomery Village. I actually sent a
link to the article on Instagram. But yeah, some neighbors
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were complaining. A neighbor with malteses the dogs was complaining
that the owner was likely like my friend's dad was
likely letting the alligator out into the backyard. But there
my friend, when I talked to him about it, he
told me, like that was not the case. But the
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alligator she lived in their basement bathtub. They got her
in Florida.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Hey, so I'm looking at Tyler pulled up the link
that you sent the Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
There's an alligator in their bathtub in.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Their back sad existence the Okay, it's a dumb animal.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It doesn't matter. It's dumb, and.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Like, let it go be in a swamp, that's where
you belong.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Leave it in Florida.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
But is that the guy that I've seen holding the
alligator and like it almost looks like he's like burping it.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Is that your friend's dad? Yes, little tell now.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
They also attached as a picture of the cops taking
the alligator away.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
So they came and got it right.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Yeah, and what were the charges.
Speaker 9 (17:16):
I don't know if there were actual charges or not.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Yeah, I'm not say the article headline says owner charged.
Later in the article, it says he was charged with
owning a live alligator.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, it should be against the law. What year is that?
How long ago was that, ma'am?
Speaker 9 (17:41):
This was within the past, like ten years.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Twenty eighteen. Ridiculous, ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And I will say this like I'm a I'm not
a great neighbor, but I'm a good neighbor. I don't
mess with anybody. I say, hi, like whatever the I
think I would complain if my neighbor had an alligator
that's running around in the backyard.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
The citation carried a fine of one thousand dollars but
no jail time. He argued he obtained it before Maryland
changed its laws.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
When did the law change?
Speaker 6 (18:11):
It doesn't say?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
So everybody a thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
That's why I had to move out of that house
in Towson and I left it behind.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I can't move that.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
This was like a cat or dog.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
The okay, it's not, it's not Why.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Did they take it away? It's so sad. You can
see he loves it. Diane says, it's a miserable existence.
That was the defense attorney speaking.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Where am I going? Christian?
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Everybody, your whole life's a bathtub.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
By the way, everybody knows people who have alligators. Hi,
elliot in the morning.
Speaker 8 (18:42):
Hi is this me?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Who's this?
Speaker 7 (18:45):
All right?
Speaker 8 (18:45):
This is Natario from a Millia County, Virginia. Yes, sir, so,
I'm also an owner of egdotic animals. I own stakes.
I don't own any crocodilian species because I don't have
the permits for that.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
But I will say.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
I've been to a bunch of these exotic animal shows
where I do vlogs for my YouTube channel, and I
will say they do get super duper strict when it
comes to crocodilian species because here in Virginia, you can't
own them unless you have a permit, and then you
have to like go above and beyond to like, Okay,
you need to get it a certain type of veterinary provider.
(19:23):
You need to make sure it has this type of enclosure.
You need to make sure it has educational qualities, like
if you're using it for just your.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Like marks are like mars he would take it out
to schools and stuff exactly.
Speaker 8 (19:38):
Like that, like here in Virginia, like they're really strict
on it. But up in like Pennsylvania and I want
to say Florida even I think they might have got
a little bit more strict on Florida now they don't care.
And it's the craziest thing. It's like the craziest It
might be wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But no, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
But you know the other the other problem, thank you
sir with with Mark marks arc Yes, so yeah, like
he had it for for educational purposes. So he was
at a school. By the way, it's not like the
alligator went missing yesterday. It's been missing for the better
part of a week to ten days. He was out
of school. And then as he came home from the
school and got back to his house and was like
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unpacking everything, that's when he noticed the alligator was missing.
So he doesn't know if the alligator got loose in
the school. He doesn't know if the alligator got loose
in the school parking lot. He doesn't know if the
alligator got loose in his driveway.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
So he doesn't know. So that's why all.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
The parents are like, you realize there could be an
alligator running around he with school or like in the backyard, Like.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
They don't they don't know where they where the alligator is.
And that's where He's like, I don't ain't no people.
I don't know why in Indiana he speaks like that.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
So what I'm hearing is the noise elementary school should
be relieved.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's just raccoon. Yeah, and they're in the wall. They're
not running the ram. That's a little pere.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
By the way, we were said a note that alligators
and crocodiles are among the smartest reptiles, and that their
cognitive abilities are akin to a dog's.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
No way, you don't believe the person. So I can
go to an alligator and go sit, sit.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
I bet you can clearly train it. If we're hearing
that this is the case.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
So why does it?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Mark just yell, heal and the crocodile will come sit.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Despite their walnut sized brains, alligators are surprisingly intelligent. They
had long, great long term memory.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
They look dumb.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
See I don't think so, oh yes they do.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
They just sit there.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
No, they said that they can like name train them Irwin, Irwin.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
The crocodiles get bigger, and they I think are more dangerous.
They're both dangerous, they're both, but the size makes crocodiles
a bigger threat.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
And crocodiles get bigger than alligator.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
They're more aggressive too.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Well, generally speaking, I'll tell you what. They look dumb.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
This is funny. They exhibit tool use during bird nesting season.
They will balance sticks on their snouts and then that
tricks birds into gathering them and then they can eat them.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
That's smart. Hello YouTube, was that crocs or alligator? That's
an alligator?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
God, they just look like dumb animals. Hi Elliott in
the morning. Yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Hey, this is Mike from Kywer County.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Sure.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
So I went to the University of Maryland and one
night me and my buddies were drinking and we found
this website falling to Classify and you can just buy
an alligare for a hundred bucks and they'll ship it
to the next day.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
So did you buy one? Oh?
Speaker 7 (23:02):
Yeah, So we put the money there, got a hundred
bucks the next day, arrived in our house in the
package that said live animal on a burlap sack, and uh,
we didn't have anywhere to put it. So we had
to go to pet store and get like a big aquarium.
And Teddy, which we named him, lived in our living
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room in College Park for two and a half years.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Did you just say College Park, Maryland, Maryland.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Oh, I just thought he said, like I was going
to college in Maryland.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I didn't realize you meant at Maryland. Dude.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
So, can't have an alligator living in your living in
your house?
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Well he did, didn't he?
Speaker 7 (23:44):
We had, Uh, we had parties in the copsould come
over and they would see it and we would tell
him there was a water lizard and they'd be like
all right. So we would take we would take Teddy
out for walks and we had a leisha and everyone
around the neighborhood knew Teddy and uh, you put them
on his lap and if you put them upside down
and rub their bellies, they'll like fall asleep. So nowhere
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came to our house. Always wanted to play for the Alliga.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
Can you send us a picture, Diane?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I want to.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
I'm what did you do with Teddy after graduation? Were
you like not it? I'm not taking it home.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
So this is a funny story as well. We took him.
My dad was having a retirement party and we took him.
Everyone want to see Teddy, so we took him there
and my brother got pretty drunk and he kept flapping
the allegair across his nose, and he was like, look,
he doesn't even bite. One time he did and like
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ripped his nose and like so he was bleeding everywhere,
and so he took Later that night he passed out
and we suspect that he got rid of the Alligaire
because he had an Evendett against him and we never
saw it again.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Oh that's dad, He's smart. I'm sure he's doing just fine.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
The smartest animal. He returned Teddy somewhere on the run.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Can I ask you this when when Teddy was living
with you at College Park? Did Teddy like beer and
hot dogs?
Speaker 7 (25:16):
Teddy? He would eat anything? Yeah, and then he we
would order the like frozen mice, and he would eat those.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I give you guys credit.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I thought you were going to say, like Lido, like
he liked pizza, the you know, he would eat all that.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
All right, very good, thank you sir.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
He wasn't the liquid. It was the beer.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Can I'm sorry? Where did you say I was going?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Kristen Line six, Hi Elliott in the morning, Alight, Yeah, Hi,
real quick?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
What can I do for you? Hey?
Speaker 10 (25:52):
Myny is time. I'm actually from Fredericksburg. Virginia. But there
was a news article, actually was on the news a
couple of years ago. We're calling an alligator named Wally,
this guy owns in Pennsylvania, who's actually a registered support
emotional support animal.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
No, it's not, no, it's not before.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, this specific one or somebody having an alligator as
a support aniam.
Speaker 10 (26:15):
No, that's a specific one.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Wally.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, No, I know Teddy. Teddy used to that was
one of my boys in College Park. He was great,
used to walk around. Never saw him after dad's retirement party.
But an alligator, listen, I understand some people may need,
like find comfort, but you like get a dog like that,
Thank you, sir. An alligator is not a support animal.
And in twenty twenty four, Wally went missing.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Oh no kidding, stolen from the owner, mister Henny. Dave, Dave, Henny, No,
that's elephants.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
You see the story.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
It made me think ahead of see the story in
the Wall Street Journal from over the weekend about things
that real estate agents have had to hide.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Thongs, Yeah, there was was what else?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
It was thongs? Drugs and there was something else.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Well, thongs and drugs didn't get me to Dave. Oh
what was the display in the One Home Elephant tusks,
Oh yeah, that's right. And the closet the agent it
was on the wall.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah they were that's right. They were hanging up on
the wall.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
So the renser was like, a lot of people have
strong feelings about Ivory, Yeah, not Dave Nison's.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
This could turn off a prospective buyer.
Do you live in Virginia?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I Doville?
Speaker 3 (00:03):
Excellent, I do too, And I don't know the rules.
What are our rules in terms of owning alligators?
Speaker 4 (00:10):
I would hope that the rules are not.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Wouldn't you think you can't imagine that we should.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Prohibit wouldn't you think alligators are against the law to own?
Speaker 5 (00:22):
I would sign technically yes, I would.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, Like I can't think of a reason to own
an alligator. Now, Listen, Not every alligator is the size
of like what you see on like cheat them or
like the ones that you see like walking on those
golf courses in in Florida.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
But like some of them, some of them can be smaller.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, but and they're still dangerous, right like alligator they're
wild animals.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
They're wild animals.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Can you own an alligator in Virginia? Can you own
an alligator in Maryland? Can you own an alligator in
d C? Do I have rules that prohibit that?
Speaker 6 (00:58):
Well, we've seen some in DC be pulled out homes
the okay?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
But is it legal?
Speaker 6 (01:02):
I think they're taken because it's not, oh okay?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Or are they just too are they are they?
Speaker 6 (01:07):
I mean like the conditions or well, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Mean, you shouldn't house it in the bathtub.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
That's usually where that's where they pull them out. Yeah,
dog baths.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
No, here's the reason I asked. So there was I'll
tell you how I got there. Right.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
So, there was a there was a story out of
Louisiana yesterday. Did you see the story at a Louisiana
guy is guy, guy's drunk driving, right, and the cops
start giving chase and the guys, you know, like, he
takes off from the cops. The cops start chasing him.
He's drunk, He's swerving all over the place. And it's
not it's not New Orleans, but it's somewhere in Louisiana swamps.
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So anyway, the guy pulls off on the side of
the road and was like, I'm going to run. So
he starts running and to get away from the cops,
he's like watch this. He goes into a swamp to
get away from the cops, thinking the cops aren't going
to chase me into the water and the cops, the
cops have like like guns out, like like where's.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
This dude going.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
He gets into the swamp, a freaking alligator eats.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Him, like dad eats him.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Whole.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Yeah, Diane, the do you know what I meant? I mean, like,
didn't just rip his arm off the No, it attacked him,
and so did he eat him or did it attack him?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Hold on, let me see what my story says. Let
me see what my story were.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
They eventually able to arrest him.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
A motorist was driving while under the influence and was
attacked by an alligator after he left into the swamp
in Saint Charles Parish. This forty year old guy was
eventually tail Oh sustained injuries both his arms.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Okay, both his arms.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But there's the cop has bodycam footage and you see
the alligator thrashing this dude.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
In the water.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yes, he goes running in and the gator is all
over him.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
But the injuries were to what his arms? That's it?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Um No fined.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Toyota Supra searching the area here we go impairment. Found
him later walking nearby swamp, was attacked by an alligator.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Finally found him using a drone. Oh, he managed to
pull himself to the shore. Uh treatment Yeah, so I
guess he's all right.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
So before Hoby asked, his hole was intact because you
know it's coming if I was a suspect and you
were an alligator, would you eat the whole?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
But anyway, so I'm reading that and then and you
see the footage. The footage is crazy. But then that
got me to a story out of Indiana. I don't
know anything about Auburn, Indiana.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
What part of the state is that? You don't even
know that here where you point.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Like right here, now, I know that that Michigan is
the glove, but he doesn't. Indiana kind of shaped like
your hand if you move your thumb.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
In that Indiana that analogy. It's up in the northeast corner.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, that's where I was over here.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Definitely down south, you were down in like Louisville.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't know where Auburn,
Alabama is. It's north Indiana, Indiana.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So anyway, there's a guy what is his name? What
is his name?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Mark Colehorst, who is known by mars arc because he
does like exotic pet shows.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
At like schools and like he's got a bunch.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Of animals at his house and like he'll go to
he'll go to schools, he'll go to like summer camps
and stuff. And he brings his animals to show off
to the kids or like whatever the whatever. The function is, well,
big happenings in his neighborhood. His alligator. His alligator is
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named Irwin. It is escape from the house.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
It's just gone.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah. Oh, and people in the neighborhood are flipping out, Okay,
flipping out? Yeah, so Irwin is gone?
Speaker 6 (05:08):
Is he named after Steve Irwin?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Maybe it's just Irwin the alligator. I have no idea,
but it's out. So the neighbors are flipping out, like,
I don't think I'm gonna I will bet a million
dollars nobody in my neighborhood owns a alligator.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Because you think they're following law.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well number one. Horrible pet, horrible pet.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
We haven't gotten any clarification on the local rules.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Kristin, will you will you see if somebody knows my
local jurisdictional rules in terms of owning alligators specifically, this
guy owns a bunch of stuff, but alligators specifically eight
six six to Elliott eight six six two three five
five four six eight And listen, I get that there
are people who own snakes. I get that there are
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people who own lizards, like I don't want a big
snake gaping somebody's house and running around the neighborhood would
definitely have seen that, or people who have like those
big like lizards. But I get that that you see
that would still terrify me if I walked out to
go to work and there's like a big monitor lizard
in the in the neighborhood. But what are the rules
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on owning an alligator?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Did I not give the number sorry eight six six
to Elliott eight six six two three five five four
six eight.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I wouldn't even know where to get one.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Gotta be some exotic pet retailer, right.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So anyway, Mark's arc is telling the people in the
neighborhood y'all chill like it's fine. Says he doesn't own
any pose any threat to humans. He eats mice and
that's about it. It will not attack people, it will
not chase people. He tries to avoid people, now that's
what he says.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
He's like, he eats mice until he takes a look
at a human calf as like.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Oh, what's some of that?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
No, you know what they're afraid of? Honestly, So Mark
says they're fine. The neighbors say, it's not the neighbors.
The neighbors sing a different story. Hands fingers a mouse,
it'll eat me whole. But if I'm a kid, it
still can bite you. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, it's not
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going to ingest me, but it's going to attack me.
But Indiana's laws and listen, Indiana isn't an alligator state, right.
Florida is an alligator state. South Carolina is an alligator state. Georgia,
I'm assuming in some areas is an alligator where, yeah,
like they live.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
There, Like do you assume them on the boa?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I don't, but people talking about seeing them on the
side of other sides.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Of the road. Indiana is not an alligator state.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Indiana allows alligators to be kept privately without any type
of permitting, as long as they're five feet or smaller.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
Five feet is pretty big.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
It's me, yes, it's an alligator.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
A five foot alligator crawled in here and.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
You don't but you don't even need a permit for it,
Like that's legal, Wow, you can have you can. And
that's why Mark's yeah, and he's like, oh, he's only
like two and a half three feet long. And the
neighbors are like, listen, we've had problems with Mark before.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
I was just reading about the past fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, animals have escaped from his house before.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
That includes a pony, a tortoise, a pig, an emu
got loose and they all got started going around. Now
they were all rescued except for the emu. That one
was posing a traffic threat and Mark shot it.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
Well it was after three hours of chasing him. Oh wait,
what are the accusations about a second gator? Did you
read about this that I didn't see? He has been
accused of two gators getting out. Oh he said those
(09:02):
statements are completely false and only one gator has escaped,
So get over it.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
How is it legal without a permit to have a
five foot alligator?
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Well it's neighboring Ohio, which we learned years ago.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Oh that's the wild West. Yes, that's the Wild West.
Where am I going? Kristen Line four? Hi Joe at
the morning?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Hey is this name?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Who's this?
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Hey? This is John So Look I'm forty six. When
I was sixteen years old, my best friend in Damascus, Maryland,
Montgoment County had a pet alligator. They legally bought from.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
The pet store.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Was about three foot long. That had it for about
three months. And so the things dripped the crop out
of my boy's arm and then they got rid of it.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Wait it bit your buddy, It bit his arm.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Yeah, and I tore it up. He had to go
to the hospital. Stuff like did like dripped.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
His arm up.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Oh my god, I would have be And you said
they bought it legally in front.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
At the pet store and it had like this big
tank of water and craft. No, they this was thirty
years ago, but this was montgomer County and they let
the pest store and what did.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
They they like? And but you said they got rid
of it.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I don't even know how you dispose of an alligator
of front door.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Open later.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
The pet store.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That makes sense, That makes sense. No, that's what you
should do. That's what you should do. All right, very good.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Yeah, you shouldn't hold an alligator for nothing.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Like like the Uh yeah, no, I would never. I
would never the I told you the what you call it?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Halper Jeff Helper, who used to play here, lives in
obviously is an assistant coach in Tampa. Yeah, terrified terrified alligators.
If I ever saw an alligator in the wild, I
would I'd not be good.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I would not be good.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I've never seen one in the wild, and I know,
like when your parents lived in Floora that they would
see him. And I know people who live in Florida
and South Carolina, Carolina, I would flip out.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
So on the Facebook group Nosy Neighbors of Auburn, Indiana,
obviously there are some people claiming here that there's a
lot of mistreatment of animals and that he has killed
alligators in the past when they've gotten loose.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
How many guy, does Mark have?
Speaker 6 (11:34):
How many total?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I I no, no, But I mean if he's killing him,
he has I think he does.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Say he has fifty five different species of animals, Like
is this his backyard or is this a zoo? It's
it's it's pretty, they stay dirty, they may get well.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I'm also with no kidding real Can people visit his property? Oh?
I don't think so. I don't. I don't think it's a.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, he travels to go out and do like these
exotic pet shows. It's also Auburn, which I'm assuming is
a touch more rural than other parts of the Indianapolis.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Like there's one here from nosy neighbors of Auburn posting
another lost alligator. There's a picture of a resident holding
what looks like a three foot alligator.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
As long as it's.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Under five, it's cool.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
You're good to go. Hi, Ellie in the morning. Hello?
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Is this me?
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Who's this?
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Hi?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Who is this Sarah?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yes? What can I do for you? Sarah?
Speaker 7 (12:41):
So?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I my boyfriend's grandparents used to be landlords and they
had a rental property up in Baltimore County, I think
in like the Towson area. And attendant left and they
left their pet alligator upstairs. So when the family came
in to clean out the house, they had no idea
that there was a giant alligator upstairs.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
How big was the alligator?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It was like six feet or something. And they had
like a whole room that was like a pool room,
and it was dedicated to the alligator just upstairs.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
In the house. God I met that stunk, the musty, moldy.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
What did they what I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I don't I guess you call wildlife and say come
get the alligator. I'm not touching it. I wouldn't even
know what to do. So it sounds like so Maryland
is clearly legal. If Damascus has it in towsand has it,
Maryland's legal to have alligators.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Well, how long ago, though, was that purchase at the
pet store sounded like a wild.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Well it probably happened like at least twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Okay, so maybe it goes back. So can I not
buy like it's all like the only the only thing.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
That I could remember.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And I can't remember where we were, but I remember,
thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
We were when when one of the.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Boys we were on a like a like a tournament
weekend and we went to a hotel and I can't
remember where it was, but we went to a like
we went to a tournament to play. And in the hotel,
we went down for breakfast on Sunday morning, and they
were doing like an exotic animal gathering in the hotel
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and people were walking in with like buckets and crates
and stuff like that, and people were.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Walking out of there. Now nobody was walking out with alligators.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
But it was all kinds of like turtles, rabbits, although
I don't know if rabbits an exotic animal.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
But like a food the.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I mean for some people, no, some people just skim them,
but the the no, but like there was a whole
thing going on at a hotel, a hotel, they were
doing it.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
At least that's a show and there's context. What was
the hotel last summer in Fairfax with the crocodile or
the alligator were driving through?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
They were driving through right, but it did it was
right by the pentagon. U was that a crocodile or alligator?
It's it's the same.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
No, aren't all alligators crocodilians? But not all crocodiles are alligators?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You know what it is? They're all terrifying and they
you know where they don't belong in your house.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
I have more important issues to worry about.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I just talked to I just talked to a guy
from Louisiana, where they're everywhere, and he says, you'd be
stupid to try.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
To handle one. You sound like mister ed.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Diane Hi Elliott the morning my own troubles.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Hi. Yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 8 (15:32):
Hi?
Speaker 9 (15:33):
I'm just not going to say my name because yeah,
but I had a friend in high school who had
a tet alligator, got a five foot alligator that lived
in his basement in Montgomery Village. I actually sent a
link to the article on Instagram. But yeah, some neighbors
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were complaining. A neighbor with malteses the dogs was complaining
that the owner was likely like my friend's dad was
likely letting the alligator out into the backyard. But there
my friend, when I talked to him about it, he
told me, like that was not the case. But the
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alligator she lived in their basement bathtub. They got her
in Florida.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Hey, so I'm looking at Tyler pulled up the link
that you sent the Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
There's an alligator in their bathtub in.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Their back sad existence the Okay, it's a dumb animal.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It doesn't matter. It's dumb, and.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Like, let it go be in a swamp, that's where
you belong.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Leave it in Florida.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
But is that the guy that I've seen holding the
alligator and like it almost looks like he's like burping it.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Is that your friend's dad? Yes, little tell now.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
They also attached as a picture of the cops taking
the alligator away.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
So they came and got it right.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Yeah, and what were the charges.
Speaker 9 (17:16):
I don't know if there were actual charges or not.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Yeah, I'm not say the article headline says owner charged.
Later in the article, it says he was charged with
owning a live alligator.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, it should be against the law. What year is that?
How long ago was that, ma'am?
Speaker 9 (17:41):
This was within the past, like ten years.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Twenty eighteen. Ridiculous, ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And I will say this like I'm a I'm not
a great neighbor, but I'm a good neighbor. I don't
mess with anybody. I say, hi, like whatever the I
think I would complain if my neighbor had an alligator
that's running around in the backyard.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
The citation carried a fine of one thousand dollars but
no jail time. He argued he obtained it before Maryland
changed its laws.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
When did the law change?
Speaker 6 (18:11):
It doesn't say?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
So everybody a thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
That's why I had to move out of that house
in Towson and I left it behind.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I can't move that.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
This was like a cat or dog.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
The okay, it's not, it's not Why.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Did they take it away? It's so sad. You can
see he loves it. Diane says, it's a miserable existence.
That was the defense attorney speaking.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Where am I going? Christian?
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Everybody, your whole life's a bathtub.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
By the way, everybody knows people who have alligators. Hi,
elliot in the morning.
Speaker 8 (18:42):
Hi is this me?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Who's this?
Speaker 7 (18:45):
All right?
Speaker 8 (18:45):
This is Natario from a Millia County, Virginia. Yes, sir, so,
I'm also an owner of egdotic animals. I own stakes.
I don't own any crocodilian species because I don't have
the permits for that.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
But I will say.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
I've been to a bunch of these exotic animal shows
where I do vlogs for my YouTube channel, and I
will say they do get super duper strict when it
comes to crocodilian species because here in Virginia, you can't
own them unless you have a permit, and then you
have to like go above and beyond to like, Okay,
you need to get it a certain type of veterinary provider.
(19:23):
You need to make sure it has this type of enclosure.
You need to make sure it has educational qualities, like
if you're using it for just your.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Like marks are like mars he would take it out
to schools and stuff exactly.
Speaker 8 (19:38):
Like that, like here in Virginia, like they're really strict
on it. But up in like Pennsylvania and I want
to say Florida even I think they might have got
a little bit more strict on Florida now they don't care.
And it's the craziest thing. It's like the craziest It
might be wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But no, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
But you know the other the other problem, thank you
sir with with Mark marks arc Yes, so yeah, like
he had it for for educational purposes. So he was
at a school. By the way, it's not like the
alligator went missing yesterday. It's been missing for the better
part of a week to ten days. He was out
of school. And then as he came home from the
school and got back to his house and was like
(20:23):
unpacking everything, that's when he noticed the alligator was missing.
So he doesn't know if the alligator got loose in
the school. He doesn't know if the alligator got loose
in the school parking lot. He doesn't know if the
alligator got loose in his driveway.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
So he doesn't know. So that's why all.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
The parents are like, you realize there could be an
alligator running around he with school or like in the backyard, Like.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
They don't they don't know where they where the alligator is.
And that's where He's like, I don't ain't no people.
I don't know why in Indiana he speaks like that.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
So what I'm hearing is the noise elementary school should
be relieved.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's just raccoon. Yeah, and they're in the wall. They're
not running the ram. That's a little pere.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
By the way, we were said a note that alligators
and crocodiles are among the smartest reptiles, and that their
cognitive abilities are akin to a dog's.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
No way, you don't believe the person. So I can
go to an alligator and go sit, sit.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
I bet you can clearly train it. If we're hearing
that this is the case.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
So why does it?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Mark just yell, heal and the crocodile will come sit.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Despite their walnut sized brains, alligators are surprisingly intelligent. They
had long, great long term memory.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
They look dumb.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
See I don't think so, oh yes they do.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
They just sit there.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
No, they said that they can like name train them Irwin, Irwin.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
The crocodiles get bigger, and they I think are more dangerous.
They're both dangerous, they're both, but the size makes crocodiles
a bigger threat.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
And crocodiles get bigger than alligator.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
They're more aggressive too.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Well, generally speaking, I'll tell you what. They look dumb.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
This is funny. They exhibit tool use during bird nesting season.
They will balance sticks on their snouts and then that
tricks birds into gathering them and then they can eat them.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
That's smart. Hello YouTube, was that crocs or alligator? That's
an alligator?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
God, they just look like dumb animals. Hi Elliott in
the morning. Yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Hey, this is Mike from Kywer County.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Sure.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
So I went to the University of Maryland and one
night me and my buddies were drinking and we found
this website falling to Classify and you can just buy
an alligare for a hundred bucks and they'll ship it
to the next day.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
So did you buy one? Oh?
Speaker 7 (23:02):
Yeah, So we put the money there, got a hundred
bucks the next day, arrived in our house in the
package that said live animal on a burlap sack, and uh,
we didn't have anywhere to put it. So we had
to go to pet store and get like a big aquarium.
And Teddy, which we named him, lived in our living
(23:24):
room in College Park for two and a half years.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Did you just say College Park, Maryland, Maryland.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Oh, I just thought he said, like I was going
to college in Maryland.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I didn't realize you meant at Maryland. Dude.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
So, can't have an alligator living in your living in
your house?
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Well he did, didn't he?
Speaker 7 (23:44):
We had, Uh, we had parties in the copsould come
over and they would see it and we would tell
him there was a water lizard and they'd be like
all right. So we would take we would take Teddy
out for walks and we had a leisha and everyone
around the neighborhood knew Teddy and uh, you put them
on his lap and if you put them upside down
and rub their bellies, they'll like fall asleep. So nowhere
(24:08):
came to our house. Always wanted to play for the Alliga.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
Can you send us a picture, Diane?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I want to.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
I'm what did you do with Teddy after graduation? Were
you like not it? I'm not taking it home.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
So this is a funny story as well. We took him.
My dad was having a retirement party and we took him.
Everyone want to see Teddy, so we took him there
and my brother got pretty drunk and he kept flapping
the allegair across his nose, and he was like, look,
he doesn't even bite. One time he did and like
(24:44):
ripped his nose and like so he was bleeding everywhere,
and so he took Later that night he passed out
and we suspect that he got rid of the Alligaire
because he had an Evendett against him and we never
saw it again.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Oh that's dad, He's smart. I'm sure he's doing just fine.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
The smartest animal. He returned Teddy somewhere on the run.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Can I ask you this when when Teddy was living
with you at College Park? Did Teddy like beer and
hot dogs?
Speaker 7 (25:16):
Teddy? He would eat anything? Yeah, and then he we
would order the like frozen mice, and he would eat those.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I give you guys credit.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I thought you were going to say, like Lido, like
he liked pizza, the you know, he would eat all that.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
All right, very good, thank you sir.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
He wasn't the liquid. It was the beer.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Can I'm sorry? Where did you say I was going?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Kristen Line six, Hi Elliott in the morning, Alight, Yeah, Hi,
real quick?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
What can I do for you? Hey?
Speaker 10 (25:52):
Myny is time. I'm actually from Fredericksburg. Virginia. But there
was a news article, actually was on the news a
couple of years ago. We're calling an alligator named Wally,
this guy owns in Pennsylvania, who's actually a registered support
emotional support animal.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
No, it's not, no, it's not before.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, this specific one or somebody having an alligator as
a support aniam.
Speaker 10 (26:15):
No, that's a specific one.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Wally.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, No, I know Teddy. Teddy used to that was
one of my boys in College Park. He was great,
used to walk around. Never saw him after dad's retirement party.
But an alligator, listen, I understand some people may need,
like find comfort, but you like get a dog like that,
Thank you, sir. An alligator is not a support animal.
And in twenty twenty four, Wally went missing.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Oh no kidding, stolen from the owner, mister Henny. Dave, Dave, Henny, No,
that's elephants.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
You see the story.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
It made me think ahead of see the story in
the Wall Street Journal from over the weekend about things
that real estate agents have had to hide.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Thongs, Yeah, there was was what else?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
It was thongs? Drugs and there was something else.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Well, thongs and drugs didn't get me to Dave. Oh
what was the display in the One Home Elephant tusks,
Oh yeah, that's right. And the closet the agent it
was on the wall.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah they were that's right. They were hanging up on
the wall.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
So the renser was like, a lot of people have
strong feelings about Ivory, Yeah, not Dave Nison's.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
This could turn off a prospective buyer.
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