June 11, 2026 ⢠23 mins
900 miles. 4 months. 1 coast.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Was it Katie? Who was who was the and we
talked to her. I feel horrible who swammed.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
The harbor Allan Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yes, Katie Pumphrey, pumfree, pum free. Yeah, that's right, because
she did the she did the whole swim. She was awesome.
She was great and she's an artist, right and remember
but we tracked everything along and we did all that.
I was thinking about her. Hold on, I gotta find
this woman. Look up California swim here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Is that a club?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
No, No, it's it's a it's a it's a a
feat that this woman is doing.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Catherine Breed.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Oh, I would want to know if Katie Pumphrey would say,
this is I don't question this is hard.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Can't wait to hear what it is the because remember
Diane's not questioning the difficulty.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
No, but there was just let me, does something seem
a little well, I'm not you know what, I'm not
gonna lead the witness.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Catherine Breed early early next month.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Early one morning next month, Catherine Breed will walk into
the ocean just north of the California Oregon border and
start swimming south anywhere between eighty and one hundred and
twenty six days later, if things go as planned, she
will reach the California Mexico border, becoming the first person
(01:33):
ever to swim the entire length of California. Now I
think that's cool.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Yeah, also kind of crazy, right, But it's not what
you think it is.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I think that's the problem I struggle with.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
You kind of have a bias against things like these
because of Diana and Iya.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well yes, but but no, like when Katie did her.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Thing, that was great.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, she got in the water and she swam.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Well, that's the first thing that stands out in the
distance you described. It's not a continuous swim. Obviously, it's
nine hundred miles. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, no, which you can't do in what well, forget
one day. It would take you more than a day.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Because how long did Katie's was like twenty five miles?
How long did it ultimately.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Take, wasn't it? Why do I want to say fourteen hours?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I don't either. I don't know why that number jumped
out to me.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Uh, thirteen fifty four.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I nailed it, Wow, nailed it. That's a long time
to swim. That is a very long time to swim.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Yes, thirteen hours versus eighty to one hundred twenty six days,
but it's not.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And so you hear nine hundred miles and you go like,
holy crap, this girl's getting ready to swim.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Ah, she don't know. Oh, she's thirty three.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Thirty three. And then you get to this part where
it's like, in order to attain this audacious goal, she'll
have to swim about nine hundred miles along the rugged
coastline in the open Pacific, vulnerable to great white sharks,
elephant seals, venomous jellyfish, storms, currents, hypothermia something a dangerous
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condition in which muscles disintegrate from over exertion.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Didn't Diana and I had get stung by a jellyfish?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, remember it got our face. I was not a
Diana Naiad fan.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You also hated her her musical instrument.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
She oh, that's right.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
She did revelry for herself before she got in you
like a bugle, yes, one of one.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Of Catherine breeds.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Like somebody working with her said it would be the
equivalent of somebody running a marathon every day for months
only in a very remote area with moose or polar bears.
And I'm like, this is amazing. What this woman's gonna do?
Catherine breeding her crew of four will eat, sleep, and
(04:05):
live aboard a fifty two foot sailboat, sheltering at night
in coves and harbors.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Except on periodic rest days.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
She will swim for five to eight hours each day,
starting where she stopped the previous day.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
So what goodbye? Okay, goodbye?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
So what does that mean in terms of if you
do the math, nine hundred miles, how many days does
she think it would take?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Between eighty and one hundred and twenty six?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
So what is that per day?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Ten fifteen?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Still in those conditions? Yeah, a lot of swimming, you're
not in.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
There's forty days between eighty and one hundred and twenty six.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Maybe she needs to that's a month off, two rest days.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And then it talks about like listen, do I think
it's easy? No, her training regimen is crazy, and I'm
sure she's in fantastic shape. But what am I missing?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Like?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Why can't I celebrate this?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Because of all the rest involved? And also it takes
a lot to cover it or to stay interested in
the story.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Also, at a dozen key locations, Catherine will come ashore
for public education events.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Oh no, what I thought they were gonna stay on
the boat.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Well, and which I also have a problem with.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Now she's walking.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Around yeah yeah, and wish she gonna do go to
the movies?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
What comes out to rest day this summer?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
She wants to see The Odyssey? Yeah, but you know
what I mean, like I can't, I can't and I
want to be And I think it's because of Katie
Pumphrey where I'm like, this is awesome. This is what
did Katie call it?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Not marathon swimming?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Is that what she called it?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I like this.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
It had a but it had a term. It had
a term endurance swimming.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Swimming.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Marathon gets people to the idea of yeah, but this
girl is when.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
It takes she's she's not even doing a half marathon
a day. My favorite days of the of the swim
where that you know, those days that she went to
the mall.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
I now this is her boyfriend will shadow the boat's
progress in a sprinter van to resupply the crew at
sea with fresh vegetables.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I don't have a problem with paperbacks.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Pints of ice cream, maybe a spare engine part in
case something goes awry.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Right for the chase, Boat. I get that.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I get that.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
What was the because we learned that Katie had also
done the English Channel?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Right? I think this? I think this lady has done
the English Channel.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Is that distance similar to what Katie did in Baltimore?
Is that around twenty twenty five miles? Does it say?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
For this?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
What is this woman's nine hundred? Oh Catherine, Catherine Breed?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I don't. I don't have the I don't have the
length of the English chop. But I do believe she
swam the English Channel.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
That wasn't Katie attached to some swim in California? Or
I am I somebody else?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Did she do?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Did she do Alcatraz?
Speaker 6 (07:20):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Why would you do Alcatraz? Sharks live?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
There wasn't there like a Catalina Island thing?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, well that's yeah, because Pirate was based at Catalina. No,
did she swim La to Catalina?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I don't Catalina stands out. I don't know where she
ended up going.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Did Catherine swim Catalina to La? I think it took
her eight months? Am I going to line two?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Oh? I have it? So she did?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Who's this Katie?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
She did the English Channel? She did the Catalina Channel
and a twenty eight point five miles from near Manhattan.
God love, Simon, where am I going? Like you count
all of her stuff?
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
You know why because she didn't have thirty days off
during the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Hi Elliot in the morning.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Hey Elliott, this is towny. So I'm going to question
she doing the Pacific? Is that right?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah? Right off the coast of California.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
How can you protect her from sharks with there's four
people in the sailboat. You know you can't tell me
wearing shark infested waters out there. I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
She said it someone, She said, someone in a small
boat will always be near her, and at known hotspots,
multiple scanners will watch for sharks and sea life.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
She said, I can promise I'm not going to get
bit by a shark, now, I mean you feel that
way going in and listen. I don't want her to
get bit. Nobody wants her to get attacked. But she
said that. I guess they'll have spotters that will know
if there's a shark around.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
How deep does these sonars go in the water? You know,
shark swim pretty deep. They can hear anything up on
top of the water and shoot straight up before anybody
could even see her.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, that that I don't know. She talks about like
one of the swims that she did, like a long
swim where it was like one of those endurance swims,
and some kind of like really a poisonous jellyfish got
inside of her wet suit. She had to peel her
wet suit off, and she Diana that one got her face.
(09:35):
She had to peel her wet suit off and swim
in her underpanties.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Well that's pretty sexy.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
The no.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I mean they were talking about just how miserable and
hypothermic she was. Yeah, but that was like but that
was like an endurance swim, and this is dude, she's
swimming nine hundred miles And I do want to be
I do want to think, like, wow, that's pretty impressive.
But there's a forty day window between start and n
(10:04):
Like if I if I thank you sir, if I
put together all the swimming I've done in my life,
have I swum nine hundred miles now?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Even as a kid, No, No, I bet on swim team. No,
okay then no, no.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
But I bet like all the times that all the
times I've been swimming in my life, in my life,
if you add.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Them up, have I done nine hundred miles?
Speaker 7 (10:28):
No?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
So if you phrased it differently, you thought we would
come to a different No.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I feel like everybody has swum nine hundred miles now, yes, do.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
You ever do laps in the pool or do you
just stand there with a cocktail next to the wall lapse?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I've done lap as a kid, you.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Girl, way, No, I'm not.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
You've not done laps in the years that I've known you.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
When have you done laps?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Again? You're talking about?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Is this like when I meditate.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
The can I please?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
You like you've never done last You've never done that
thing with your friends where you're like, all right, I'm
gonna see how far I could push myself down on
one breath and you make it the whole way.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
That's a lap, swimming lap.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
See I go back because we try it again. I
get you treated like I need to be goddamn Katie Ladeci. No,
I'm just saying, if you're an adult, you've swum nine
hundred miles.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Katie Lindecy has swum more than nine hundred miles in
her life.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You have not I bet Katie Ladeci has swum ten
thousand miles in her life. Twenty thousand. You can tell
me she swum a million miles. I'd believe it.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
There's no no chance, Tyler.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
You don't think you've done nine hundred miles.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I don't think I have. I don't think you have.
I don't think Diana or Kristen has have.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I come close? Eight hundred.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
No, we're gonna be titty babies nor eight hundred.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yes, Oh my god, you're so delusional.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
No, I know.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I'm trying to be realistic.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
But the only difference is she's doing it in one
hundred twenty six days. I did it in a lifetime.
But my point is we vote, we've all taken breaks,
that's all.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
And if I may quote Bruce Springsteen, thanks for a lifetime.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Hey you welcome, Bruce, You're welcome.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Now I'm looking. So she ends this swim at the
Tijuana River, which is right at the border. Yes, at
the US Mexico border, the Catalina Island. The channel swim
ended at or they stopped at Ranchos Palos Verdes.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Oh that's nice.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
So you're familiar with that area.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So I'm I'll tell you it's a lot nicer than Tijuana. Yes,
it's very nice. I mean there's like it's right on
the water.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Yeah, but are there I'm seeing some resorts pop up there.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Oh. I just know, like there's like some cliff houses
there that are gorgeous.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
But you're still that swim, You're still subject to the
dangers of the sea, right, Yes, of course, does she
say which part of the California swim will be the
most treacherous? And I understand like stamina and energy and
just fatigue can play later in the swim, But when
(13:10):
you're talking about the elements faced north or southern California,
northern or southern, does she explain that.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Well, I think like sharks would be more Northern California,
and then like sea like sea lions and stuff are
going to be southern, like down by San Diego. Can
I guess you get shunk in in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I feel like northern California, I feel like would be
more dangerous. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
It's it's pretty amazing despite a year issues with no.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
It is and that's that's the point. I want to
be excited for her, But I also know like for
forty days, she's going to be sleeping at like a
four seasons.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Like I understand that you may not go on her
website and donate.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh you're right about that, but.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Just to read about her story, her history, her accomplishments
and then see this map the of the swim. It
reminds me of how I felt when Katie did the
Harbor swim.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Oh again, I think it's impressive. Actually, I'll say this.
I think what Katie is, what Katie did, is more
impressive than.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
This because it was because Katie continuous for those almost
fourteen hours.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, like, this woman will swim. And again, I could
not walk into the water right now and swim ten miles.
I know that I'm comfortable in saying that.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
So she Catherine, This is again from Swim, California. She
was the first human to swim San Francisco to half
Moon Bay. How far is that?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Where's half Moon Bay?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Well, I don't think it's the one in Jamaica. You
got married, Oh you might be right. Yeah, so I
thought you would know that.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I don't know where half Moon Bay.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Is, but you know San Francisco a little bit. Yes,
did you see Bunjovi? There the Yeah, cow Palace is
not open, so it's basically if you just head down
the one you see it here on the map.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Okay, that's not that far.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
It's twenty eight miles for the swim. Yeah, and that
was without rest.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
So she did a straight twenty eight yes, okay, No,
that's good. That's that, by the way, more impressive than
nine hundred.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
It's the entire length of the I know, and that.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Is I do want to be happier for her. I do.
I just don't like the rest blank seven.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Hi elliot in the morning.
Speaker 9 (15:51):
Anybody is this mate?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
What can I do for you?
Speaker 9 (15:55):
So I was I was talking listen to on. I
was thanking her the shock for the least to her
problems because you said she's in her swimm as the
Tijuana River, Yeah, released tens of millions of gallons of
raw sewage into the river every day.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Like, I mean, listen, I believe it.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
No, No, you think she would be aware of that.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
The the Tijuanna River is not known for its whitewater
raft das sharks.
Speaker 9 (16:21):
I'm taking sharks for the least of her problems.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
If she's going up to Tijuana River.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
All right, very good, thank you, Yes, Tom, he's not wrong.
Considered one of the most polluted rivers in North America.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Well, she is doing this to kind of raise awareness.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
But she's also she's just swimming to that point.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Well, you can't go any further once you bang your
hand into the duty wall. That's as far as you
can go.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
She doesn't have to actually.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Swim in the Tijuanna River. It's like Juliana Valencia going
down to cover the Clara Barton.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
She's right on the right there, but not in it.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Where was she this morning?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
She was somewhere well, probably where they have to do
the new repair work. She probably saw that story was
like not a line three. Hi elliot in the morning.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
Hi is this me?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (17:16):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Who's this.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Hi?
Speaker 10 (17:19):
I'm a swim coach and I am the open water
coordinator for like the area of DC in Maryland and Virginia,
So I can give you a little background. It is
called marathon swimming.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
That's what they call it the Olympics too, for a
ten k and over.
Speaker 10 (17:32):
Right, But you probably need to consider when she has
to rest. It's not like she always wants to, but
you've got to consider the current and the storms that
are going to be happening as she goes, so like
your big thing is wrapping around.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
Why is she get all this extra rest?
Speaker 10 (17:46):
Maybe it's probably because of the environmental stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
No, no, I get that. I get that. But when
when somebody says, hey, this lady and again she I'm
sure she's a great athlete. But when they said this
lady is going to swim the nine hundred miles of
the California coast, they set it up in a way
where it's like, oh my god, like she's the Michael
(18:09):
Wardion of swimming, Like she's just gonna go. And then
you find out that it may take her eighty days,
it may take her one hundred and twenty days. There's
her days on shore. It's like, I guess when they
say it's like, I'll use the Appalachian Trail, right, yeah,
there are some people that it takes them years to
do the Appalachian Trail. They'll do this segment, in that segment,
(18:31):
in this segment, in that segment. Or then there's the
straight hikers who start and they just go. They make
it sound like the way that she's setting this record
of doing. They make it sound like it is like
a through hiker as opposed to what I've done, which
is nine hundred miles, but just in a little bit
(18:53):
longer time.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
She's also laughing at that.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
No, ma'am, is it you're a swim coach. Has the
average person one nine miles.
Speaker 10 (19:03):
I'm going to agree with Diane and Tyler and say unlikely.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
But maybe if they.
Speaker 10 (19:10):
Were an avid summer as a kid. If they were
avid summer as a kid, maybe if you did swim,
and if you did swim team for sure. But one
more thing to consider in this timeline, because I want
to give this woman some credit. I just wanted to
going in day after day after day after day. That
(19:32):
also sounds like mentally super tough. But sometimes when you swim,
because the current is so strong or the wind is
so strong that you're like barely moving.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
So like if you think of the people, it's the.
Speaker 10 (19:45):
English Channel, like they'll maybe go one mile in an hour,
which a pretty good mile, like in a pool is
about twenty minutes.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
You know, open water maybe.
Speaker 10 (19:55):
Slightly longer, so you should be getting maybe two and
a half to three if you're a pretty good swimmer,
which I'm sure this lady is but you might be
going almost nowhere. So that's another thing that they have
to put into account for, Like she's gonna do all
nine hundred miles and I don't know the mental toughness
(20:16):
of keep going when like you're trying to swim in
that boat and you are still in that same place.
You haven't gone anywhere.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
That sounds like it sucks.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Yeah, no, but I mean get pushing and look over
and your friends are eating ice cream.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
The no, but pushing.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Through the U and you haven't moved five inches.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Pushing through the mental is but that that's a part
of anything. Like even old man hockey, you get pinned
in the zone and you can't change, and it's you're tired.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
But you still got to push through anything.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
And you know, like move moved here.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Sure the movie wants you to make a change so
he could get on the ice.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
We've all been there.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Were you even asked to join the team again the Saturday.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
The yeah, I'm in this Saturday, although I haven't gotten
an updates.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
And if you'll recall, Katie tried to do the Baltimore
Swim a second time right and had to abort the
mission because of weather and wind.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Right but I bet if she said I'm gonna do it,
it's only going to take me between eighty and one
hundred and twenty six days, she could have doubted it done.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yes, Hey, where are you? Where are you a coach?
Speaker 10 (21:22):
I coach out in the Woodbridge, Virginia area, So.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
You know, like like like swimming obviously does very well,
especially women swimming, so you know like Katie Ledecki and
Tory Husk and all of them.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Right, Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
No, that's awesome.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
I'm coaching kids who want to be able to swim
in college.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Is the type of swimming that I coach.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
No, I think that's great. Hey, one other thing, when
you said that you're in charge of like open water
swimming in the area, like every like if somebody wants
to go swimming in the Chesapeake, everybody's got to go
through you.
Speaker 10 (21:56):
No, it's for USA Swimming. So like any USA Swimming
team that is going to do open water swim, I'm
the coordinator and I help them plan it and make
sure the conditions are going to be okay and follow
all the rules of USA Swimming. So I wouldn't say
it's for everyone, right, but it's for anyone who is
a member of USA Swimming.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I got youa that still sounds very rare, like like
that sounds like a prestigious job.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Thank you, Thank you've worked really heard of it.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, I've been very lucky.
Speaker 10 (22:26):
USA Swimming just hired me to go out last week
to Las Vegas and coach out there. So that was
pretty cool to coach for USA Swimming, like the actual
swim team.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
You know, that's a rational team.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Oh congratulations, Hey, you know what, let me get you
a shirt. Let me get you a shirt.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
What.
Speaker 10 (22:42):
Oh, that's so awesome. I love listening to you guys
all the time. And Diane, I'm so glad you're back.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
That's awesome. Hey, hold tight one second, hold on one
second for me, please, that's great.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
And then USA Swimming, according to a listener who uses
an anthropic or claw the AI agent right, the average
person in their lifetime, Oh.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
How the far they'll swim? But are they taking into
account like you swim as a kid.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
It's a it's a decent range, So I do think so.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Am I not giving myself enough credit? Have I have
I swum more than I think I have?
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Do you want the menim minimum or the maximum? For
the estimate maximum, no minimum minimum, Okay, well I told
you it's a big ride, right, thirty miles.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Thirty miles, so it's thirty to one thousand. What is
the maximum?
Speaker 4 (23:35):
One hundred?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I'm definitely closer to one hundred.
Was it Katie? Who was who was the and we
talked to her. I feel horrible who swammed.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
The harbor Allan Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yes, Katie Pumphrey, pumfree, pum free. Yeah, that's right, because
she did the she did the whole swim. She was awesome.
She was great and she's an artist, right and remember
but we tracked everything along and we did all that.
I was thinking about her. Hold on, I gotta find
this woman. Look up California swim here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Is that a club?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
No, No, it's it's a it's a it's a a
feat that this woman is doing.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Catherine Breed.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Oh, I would want to know if Katie Pumphrey would say,
this is I don't question this is hard.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Can't wait to hear what it is the because remember
Diane's not questioning the difficulty.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
No, but there was just let me, does something seem
a little well, I'm not you know what, I'm not
gonna lead the witness.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Catherine Breed early early next month.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Early one morning next month, Catherine Breed will walk into
the ocean just north of the California Oregon border and
start swimming south anywhere between eighty and one hundred and
twenty six days later, if things go as planned, she
will reach the California Mexico border, becoming the first person
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ever to swim the entire length of California. Now I
think that's cool.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Yeah, also kind of crazy, right, But it's not what
you think it is.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I think that's the problem I struggle with.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
You kind of have a bias against things like these
because of Diana and Iya.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well yes, but but no, like when Katie did her.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Thing, that was great.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, she got in the water and she swam.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Well, that's the first thing that stands out in the
distance you described. It's not a continuous swim. Obviously, it's
nine hundred miles. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, no, which you can't do in what well, forget
one day. It would take you more than a day.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Because how long did Katie's was like twenty five miles?
How long did it ultimately.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Take, wasn't it? Why do I want to say fourteen hours?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I don't either. I don't know why that number jumped
out to me.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Uh, thirteen fifty four.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I nailed it, Wow, nailed it. That's a long time
to swim. That is a very long time to swim.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Yes, thirteen hours versus eighty to one hundred twenty six days,
but it's not.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And so you hear nine hundred miles and you go like,
holy crap, this girl's getting ready to swim.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Ah, she don't know. Oh, she's thirty three.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Thirty three. And then you get to this part where
it's like, in order to attain this audacious goal, she'll
have to swim about nine hundred miles along the rugged
coastline in the open Pacific, vulnerable to great white sharks,
elephant seals, venomous jellyfish, storms, currents, hypothermia something a dangerous
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condition in which muscles disintegrate from over exertion.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Didn't Diana and I had get stung by a jellyfish?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, remember it got our face. I was not a
Diana Naiad fan.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You also hated her her musical instrument.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
She oh, that's right.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
She did revelry for herself before she got in you
like a bugle, yes, one of one.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Of Catherine breeds.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Like somebody working with her said it would be the
equivalent of somebody running a marathon every day for months
only in a very remote area with moose or polar bears.
And I'm like, this is amazing. What this woman's gonna do?
Catherine breeding her crew of four will eat, sleep, and
(04:05):
live aboard a fifty two foot sailboat, sheltering at night
in coves and harbors.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Except on periodic rest days.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
She will swim for five to eight hours each day,
starting where she stopped the previous day.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
So what goodbye? Okay, goodbye?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
So what does that mean in terms of if you
do the math, nine hundred miles, how many days does
she think it would take?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Between eighty and one hundred and twenty six?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
So what is that per day?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Ten fifteen?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Still in those conditions? Yeah, a lot of swimming, you're
not in.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
There's forty days between eighty and one hundred and twenty six.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Maybe she needs to that's a month off, two rest days.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And then it talks about like listen, do I think
it's easy? No, her training regimen is crazy, and I'm
sure she's in fantastic shape. But what am I missing?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Like?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Why can't I celebrate this?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Because of all the rest involved? And also it takes
a lot to cover it or to stay interested in
the story.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Also, at a dozen key locations, Catherine will come ashore
for public education events.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Oh no, what I thought they were gonna stay on
the boat.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Well, and which I also have a problem with.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Now she's walking.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Around yeah yeah, and wish she gonna do go to
the movies?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
What comes out to rest day this summer?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
She wants to see The Odyssey? Yeah, but you know
what I mean, like I can't, I can't and I
want to be And I think it's because of Katie
Pumphrey where I'm like, this is awesome. This is what
did Katie call it?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Not marathon swimming?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Is that what she called it?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I like this.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
It had a but it had a term. It had
a term endurance swimming.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Swimming.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Marathon gets people to the idea of yeah, but this
girl is when.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
It takes she's she's not even doing a half marathon
a day. My favorite days of the of the swim
where that you know, those days that she went to
the mall.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
I now this is her boyfriend will shadow the boat's
progress in a sprinter van to resupply the crew at
sea with fresh vegetables.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I don't have a problem with paperbacks.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Pints of ice cream, maybe a spare engine part in
case something goes awry.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Right for the chase, Boat. I get that.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I get that.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
What was the because we learned that Katie had also
done the English Channel?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Right? I think this? I think this lady has done
the English Channel.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Is that distance similar to what Katie did in Baltimore?
Is that around twenty twenty five miles? Does it say?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
For this?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
What is this woman's nine hundred? Oh Catherine, Catherine Breed?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I don't. I don't have the I don't have the
length of the English chop. But I do believe she
swam the English Channel.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
That wasn't Katie attached to some swim in California? Or
I am I somebody else?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Did she do?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Did she do Alcatraz?
Speaker 6 (07:20):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Why would you do Alcatraz? Sharks live?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
There wasn't there like a Catalina Island thing?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, well that's yeah, because Pirate was based at Catalina. No,
did she swim La to Catalina?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I don't Catalina stands out. I don't know where she
ended up going.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Did Catherine swim Catalina to La? I think it took
her eight months? Am I going to line two?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Oh? I have it? So she did?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Who's this Katie?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
She did the English Channel? She did the Catalina Channel
and a twenty eight point five miles from near Manhattan.
God love, Simon, where am I going? Like you count
all of her stuff?
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
You know why because she didn't have thirty days off
during the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Hi Elliot in the morning.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Hey Elliott, this is towny. So I'm going to question
she doing the Pacific? Is that right?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah? Right off the coast of California.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
How can you protect her from sharks with there's four
people in the sailboat. You know you can't tell me
wearing shark infested waters out there. I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
She said it someone, She said, someone in a small
boat will always be near her, and at known hotspots,
multiple scanners will watch for sharks and sea life.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
She said, I can promise I'm not going to get
bit by a shark, now, I mean you feel that
way going in and listen. I don't want her to
get bit. Nobody wants her to get attacked. But she
said that. I guess they'll have spotters that will know
if there's a shark around.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
How deep does these sonars go in the water? You know,
shark swim pretty deep. They can hear anything up on
top of the water and shoot straight up before anybody
could even see her.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, that that I don't know. She talks about like
one of the swims that she did, like a long
swim where it was like one of those endurance swims,
and some kind of like really a poisonous jellyfish got
inside of her wet suit. She had to peel her
wet suit off, and she Diana that one got her face.
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She had to peel her wet suit off and swim
in her underpanties.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Well that's pretty sexy.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
The no.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I mean they were talking about just how miserable and
hypothermic she was. Yeah, but that was like but that
was like an endurance swim, and this is dude, she's
swimming nine hundred miles And I do want to be
I do want to think, like, wow, that's pretty impressive.
But there's a forty day window between start and n
(10:04):
Like if I if I thank you sir, if I
put together all the swimming I've done in my life,
have I swum nine hundred miles now?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Even as a kid, No, No, I bet on swim team. No,
okay then no, no.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
But I bet like all the times that all the
times I've been swimming in my life, in my life,
if you add.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Them up, have I done nine hundred miles?
Speaker 7 (10:28):
No?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
So if you phrased it differently, you thought we would
come to a different No.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I feel like everybody has swum nine hundred miles now, yes, do.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
You ever do laps in the pool or do you
just stand there with a cocktail next to the wall lapse?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I've done lap as a kid, you.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Girl, way, No, I'm not.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
You've not done laps in the years that I've known you.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
When have you done laps?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Again? You're talking about?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Is this like when I meditate.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
The can I please?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
You like you've never done last You've never done that
thing with your friends where you're like, all right, I'm
gonna see how far I could push myself down on
one breath and you make it the whole way.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
That's a lap, swimming lap.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
See I go back because we try it again. I
get you treated like I need to be goddamn Katie Ladeci. No,
I'm just saying, if you're an adult, you've swum nine
hundred miles.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Katie Lindecy has swum more than nine hundred miles in
her life.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You have not I bet Katie Ladeci has swum ten
thousand miles in her life. Twenty thousand. You can tell
me she swum a million miles. I'd believe it.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
There's no no chance, Tyler.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
You don't think you've done nine hundred miles.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I don't think I have. I don't think you have.
I don't think Diana or Kristen has have.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I come close? Eight hundred.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
No, we're gonna be titty babies nor eight hundred.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yes, Oh my god, you're so delusional.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
No, I know.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I'm trying to be realistic.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
But the only difference is she's doing it in one
hundred twenty six days. I did it in a lifetime.
But my point is we vote, we've all taken breaks,
that's all.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
And if I may quote Bruce Springsteen, thanks for a lifetime.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Hey you welcome, Bruce, You're welcome.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Now I'm looking. So she ends this swim at the
Tijuana River, which is right at the border. Yes, at
the US Mexico border, the Catalina Island. The channel swim
ended at or they stopped at Ranchos Palos Verdes.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Oh that's nice.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
So you're familiar with that area.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So I'm I'll tell you it's a lot nicer than Tijuana. Yes,
it's very nice. I mean there's like it's right on
the water.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Yeah, but are there I'm seeing some resorts pop up there.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Oh. I just know, like there's like some cliff houses
there that are gorgeous.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
But you're still that swim, You're still subject to the
dangers of the sea, right, Yes, of course, does she
say which part of the California swim will be the
most treacherous? And I understand like stamina and energy and
just fatigue can play later in the swim, But when
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you're talking about the elements faced north or southern California,
northern or southern, does she explain that.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Well, I think like sharks would be more Northern California,
and then like sea like sea lions and stuff are
going to be southern, like down by San Diego. Can
I guess you get shunk in in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I feel like northern California, I feel like would be
more dangerous. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
It's it's pretty amazing despite a year issues with no.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
It is and that's that's the point. I want to
be excited for her, But I also know like for
forty days, she's going to be sleeping at like a
four seasons.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Like I understand that you may not go on her
website and donate.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh you're right about that, but.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Just to read about her story, her history, her accomplishments
and then see this map the of the swim. It
reminds me of how I felt when Katie did the
Harbor swim.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Oh again, I think it's impressive. Actually, I'll say this.
I think what Katie is, what Katie did, is more
impressive than.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
This because it was because Katie continuous for those almost
fourteen hours.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, like, this woman will swim. And again, I could
not walk into the water right now and swim ten miles.
I know that I'm comfortable in saying that.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
So she Catherine, This is again from Swim, California. She
was the first human to swim San Francisco to half
Moon Bay. How far is that?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Where's half Moon Bay?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Well, I don't think it's the one in Jamaica. You
got married, Oh you might be right. Yeah, so I
thought you would know that.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I don't know where half Moon Bay.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Is, but you know San Francisco a little bit. Yes,
did you see Bunjovi? There the Yeah, cow Palace is
not open, so it's basically if you just head down
the one you see it here on the map.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Okay, that's not that far.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
It's twenty eight miles for the swim. Yeah, and that
was without rest.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
So she did a straight twenty eight yes, okay, No,
that's good. That's that, by the way, more impressive than
nine hundred.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
It's the entire length of the I know, and that.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Is I do want to be happier for her. I do.
I just don't like the rest blank seven.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Hi elliot in the morning.
Speaker 9 (15:51):
Anybody is this mate?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
What can I do for you?
Speaker 9 (15:55):
So I was I was talking listen to on. I
was thanking her the shock for the least to her
problems because you said she's in her swimm as the
Tijuana River, Yeah, released tens of millions of gallons of
raw sewage into the river every day.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Like, I mean, listen, I believe it.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
No, No, you think she would be aware of that.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
The the Tijuanna River is not known for its whitewater
raft das sharks.
Speaker 9 (16:21):
I'm taking sharks for the least of her problems.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
If she's going up to Tijuana River.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
All right, very good, thank you, Yes, Tom, he's not wrong.
Considered one of the most polluted rivers in North America.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Well, she is doing this to kind of raise awareness.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
But she's also she's just swimming to that point.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Well, you can't go any further once you bang your
hand into the duty wall. That's as far as you
can go.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
She doesn't have to actually.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Swim in the Tijuanna River. It's like Juliana Valencia going
down to cover the Clara Barton.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
She's right on the right there, but not in it.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Where was she this morning?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
She was somewhere well, probably where they have to do
the new repair work. She probably saw that story was
like not a line three. Hi elliot in the morning.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
Hi is this me?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (17:16):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Who's this.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Hi?
Speaker 10 (17:19):
I'm a swim coach and I am the open water
coordinator for like the area of DC in Maryland and Virginia,
So I can give you a little background. It is
called marathon swimming.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
That's what they call it the Olympics too, for a
ten k and over.
Speaker 10 (17:32):
Right, But you probably need to consider when she has
to rest. It's not like she always wants to, but
you've got to consider the current and the storms that
are going to be happening as she goes, so like
your big thing is wrapping around.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
Why is she get all this extra rest?
Speaker 10 (17:46):
Maybe it's probably because of the environmental stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
No, no, I get that. I get that. But when
when somebody says, hey, this lady and again she I'm
sure she's a great athlete. But when they said this
lady is going to swim the nine hundred miles of
the California coast, they set it up in a way
where it's like, oh my god, like she's the Michael
(18:09):
Wardion of swimming, Like she's just gonna go. And then
you find out that it may take her eighty days,
it may take her one hundred and twenty days. There's
her days on shore. It's like, I guess when they
say it's like, I'll use the Appalachian Trail, right, yeah,
there are some people that it takes them years to
do the Appalachian Trail. They'll do this segment, in that segment,
(18:31):
in this segment, in that segment. Or then there's the
straight hikers who start and they just go. They make
it sound like the way that she's setting this record
of doing. They make it sound like it is like
a through hiker as opposed to what I've done, which
is nine hundred miles, but just in a little bit
(18:53):
longer time.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
She's also laughing at that.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
No, ma'am, is it you're a swim coach. Has the
average person one nine miles.
Speaker 10 (19:03):
I'm going to agree with Diane and Tyler and say unlikely.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
But maybe if they.
Speaker 10 (19:10):
Were an avid summer as a kid. If they were
avid summer as a kid, maybe if you did swim,
and if you did swim team for sure. But one
more thing to consider in this timeline, because I want
to give this woman some credit. I just wanted to
going in day after day after day after day. That
(19:32):
also sounds like mentally super tough. But sometimes when you swim,
because the current is so strong or the wind is
so strong that you're like barely moving.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
So like if you think of the people, it's the.
Speaker 10 (19:45):
English Channel, like they'll maybe go one mile in an hour,
which a pretty good mile, like in a pool is
about twenty minutes.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
You know, open water maybe.
Speaker 10 (19:55):
Slightly longer, so you should be getting maybe two and
a half to three if you're a pretty good swimmer,
which I'm sure this lady is but you might be
going almost nowhere. So that's another thing that they have
to put into account for, Like she's gonna do all
nine hundred miles and I don't know the mental toughness
(20:16):
of keep going when like you're trying to swim in
that boat and you are still in that same place.
You haven't gone anywhere.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
That sounds like it sucks.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Yeah, no, but I mean get pushing and look over
and your friends are eating ice cream.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
The no, but pushing.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Through the U and you haven't moved five inches.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Pushing through the mental is but that that's a part
of anything. Like even old man hockey, you get pinned
in the zone and you can't change, and it's you're tired.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
But you still got to push through anything.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
And you know, like move moved here.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Sure the movie wants you to make a change so
he could get on the ice.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
We've all been there.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Were you even asked to join the team again the Saturday.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
The yeah, I'm in this Saturday, although I haven't gotten
an updates.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
And if you'll recall, Katie tried to do the Baltimore
Swim a second time right and had to abort the
mission because of weather and wind.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Right but I bet if she said I'm gonna do it,
it's only going to take me between eighty and one
hundred and twenty six days, she could have doubted it done.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yes, Hey, where are you? Where are you a coach?
Speaker 10 (21:22):
I coach out in the Woodbridge, Virginia area, So.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
You know, like like like swimming obviously does very well,
especially women swimming, so you know like Katie Ledecki and
Tory Husk and all of them.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Right, Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
No, that's awesome.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
I'm coaching kids who want to be able to swim
in college.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Is the type of swimming that I coach.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
No, I think that's great. Hey, one other thing, when
you said that you're in charge of like open water
swimming in the area, like every like if somebody wants
to go swimming in the Chesapeake, everybody's got to go
through you.
Speaker 10 (21:56):
No, it's for USA Swimming. So like any USA Swimming
team that is going to do open water swim, I'm
the coordinator and I help them plan it and make
sure the conditions are going to be okay and follow
all the rules of USA Swimming. So I wouldn't say
it's for everyone, right, but it's for anyone who is
a member of USA Swimming.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I got youa that still sounds very rare, like like
that sounds like a prestigious job.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Thank you, Thank you've worked really heard of it.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, I've been very lucky.
Speaker 10 (22:26):
USA Swimming just hired me to go out last week
to Las Vegas and coach out there. So that was
pretty cool to coach for USA Swimming, like the actual
swim team.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
You know, that's a rational team.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Oh congratulations, Hey, you know what, let me get you
a shirt. Let me get you a shirt.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
What.
Speaker 10 (22:42):
Oh, that's so awesome. I love listening to you guys
all the time. And Diane, I'm so glad you're back.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
That's awesome. Hey, hold tight one second, hold on one
second for me, please, that's great.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
And then USA Swimming, according to a listener who uses
an anthropic or claw the AI agent right, the average
person in their lifetime, Oh.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
How the far they'll swim? But are they taking into
account like you swim as a kid.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
It's a it's a decent range, So I do think so.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Am I not giving myself enough credit? Have I have
I swum more than I think I have?
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Do you want the menim minimum or the maximum? For
the estimate maximum, no minimum minimum, Okay, well I told
you it's a big ride, right, thirty miles.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Thirty miles, so it's thirty to one thousand. What is
the maximum?
Speaker 4 (23:35):
One hundred?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I'm definitely closer to one hundred.
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