EITM: We Do Make Mistakes 10/8/25

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Bob Ross thing that came out yesterday where they're
going to auction off a bunch of his paintings, and
I guess it's for to raise isn't it to raise
funds for like like national.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Public television stations or something.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Like that, losing their funding, right, Which is fine.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
I mean, that's a good way to make money.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I get that, that's fine, But can I can I
ask this, like I never watched Bob Ross back in
the day.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Obviously I know who he is, and I.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Know what his shtick is and the whole thing, but
I was never into Bob Ross, like, not even like, hey,
let's get high and watch Bob Ross like it was
just never part of our wheelhouse, did Bob Ross?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
And they expect that these these these what do you
call them?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
I know, I don't want to say pictures paintings are
going to make a lot of money, but obviously they're
also going to make a lot of money because of
the cause that they're going for.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
That will add to it.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
And I'm not diminishing the value of the painting, but
it will raise extra money because people who are going
to do it are going to do it also in
part to help fund Yes, charity. Yeah, so I do
understand that. But did back in the day, did Bob
Ross paint a lot of paintings?

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Oh? God?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Like what his total catalog would have mass?

Speaker 4 (01:16):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Here's what I want to know. Could I find anybody
who owns a Bob.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Ross like a reprint?

Speaker 4 (01:24):
I think you could only because isn't that what the
documentary was about? I never saw it. I never saw
it either, But wasn't it how he never sold his
stuff unless it was for charity or fundraising, but his
estate completely after his death?

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Hortum? Yes, are you serious?

Speaker 4 (01:45):
I never saw the documentary, but I believe that wasn't
wasn't the subtitle like Greed and Lies or something like that?
Oh Christmas?

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Did you see that? Did you say?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Were there? What's that?

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Can you?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Can you turn yourself on while you're doing that? If
anybody owns one or know somebody who owns one? Please
eight six six to Elliott eight six six two three
five five four six eight You watched the documentary?

Speaker 6 (02:09):
Yeah so my family. I grew up watching like the
reruns on the weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Right by the way, I don't even know like when
it when it started I know, I honestly know very
little about Bob Ross. Then I know well who he
is and what his shtick is. But that's about it.
Mid eighties and nineties, and I shouldn't even call it shtick,
like he.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Is an artist.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Stick came off a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, no, no, and I don't mean it that way, but
like I know what his bid is, like he draws
or he paints, so anyway you would watch reruns or repeats.

Speaker 6 (02:39):
Yes, when I was little, my like early in the morning,
waking up, my dad would have a cup of coffee
and then we'd just sit and watch the paintings.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Every day or like that was like weekends, right.

Speaker 6 (02:49):
And then that in this old house. But then I
watched so my two of so there's four of us kids,
the three of us, the younger three, me and the
other two. We used to have a tradition around Christmas
time where we would get together and do our own
Bob Ross paintings while watching the Netflix. He used to

(03:12):
have like thirty minute episodes on Netflix. I don't think
it's on there anymore, right, But it would take us
hours during this thirty minute session because we were creating
our own paintings.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Of what we thought was that what's going on on TV?

Speaker 5 (03:27):
Right?

Speaker 2 (03:28):
So was he a teacher on the show?

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, it's instruct yea, yeah, okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Sorry.

Speaker 6 (03:35):
So then this documentary came out. I forget when it
came out, but it just talks about after he passed
how his like family got screwed over by I think
it was his family, family, friend or a partner they
screwed him out. And if I remember the warehouse where

(03:55):
all the paintings are stored.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Some is it up in? Is it Evanston? I don't remember.
It's either Chicago or out in Herndon.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I don't remember.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
I know they're too.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Chicago herd He either he either has a place in
Sacramento or resting.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Remember I can't remember which one. Would I figure like Chicago, Milwaukee? No, no, no, no, Herndon.
There is no way.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
So you're telling me all of Bob Ross's paintings are
off sixty six in Herndon or the Toll Road.

Speaker 6 (04:32):
Or I'm completely wrong, which is more than likely correct.
But I remember I lived near the warehouse of where
they were stored at one point in my life Herndon.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Wouldn't we know that all of his stuff was in Herndon.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Wouldn't we know that we didn't know about the monkeys?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
That is true? That is true.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah, they were stored in a warehouse.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
And so but were there a lot of them?

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (04:55):
And if I remember, there's no two paintings.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Hold on Diane, Diane's coming out of versus, which means
one of two things, either as she has found something
important to this or Francine is now gone.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yes, Diane, Uh, she's right?

Speaker 7 (05:09):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (05:10):
On which one?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Somewhere off Route fifty in Herndon?

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Are you serious? Yes, that's where all Bob Ross's stuff is. Uh,
No way.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Bob Ross incorporated the company that manages the late artist's
legacy and holds most of his original paintings in warehouses
in Herndon, Virginia.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Dude, all of his stuff is in Herndon. How many
times have I driven by all of his works?

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Countless?

Speaker 1 (05:37):
But did they wore him out afterwards? Like after he died?
Were they like, let's just start selling?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I don't feel like you other than the Herndon part,
I don't feel like you really nailed much of this documentary.

Speaker 6 (05:49):
But I do know there's no no two paintings.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Are the same.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
I believe that.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, I believe that.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
All right, Now I need okay, I need somebody who
owns a bob Ross. I thought that would be it.
Does anybody know about these warehouses in Herndon?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Please wait? Yes, Kristen. I also feel like, oh God.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
Somebody the person who screwed him and his family in
the estate over right. I believe she tried to replicate
and sold the fakes or something.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (06:20):
It was really messy, Okay, Like I have a bunch
of like his little bobble heads and stuff. But I
know that in like the calendars, I'll bring them in.
But I know all of that money that is spent calendars.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Like this is nineteen eighty four.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Fascinating.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
My mom keeps the at They tell a story, Diane,
I've been over.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
This, okay, all right, very good, very good?

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Eight six six to Elliott eight six six two three
five five four six eight.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Somebody who's got a bob Ross.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Or somebody who knows about these warehouses in Herndon, Virginia.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
What a what a thank God? We went to.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Christen, and I guess Channel four here did a story
where they interviewed the family that owns Bob Ross Incorporated,
because after that documentary came out and they were like
disputing it.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
So was there was there nobody else?

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Again, I know very little about Bob Ross, but was
there there was there nobody else that could run the business? Like?

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Was does he have? Was there?

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Like he keeps talking about like the guy who's running
Bob Bob Ross Incorporated.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Sounds like he's a bad person. There was nobody else.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
But it's kind of like what's going on with Peter Max.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I was just gonna ask if it's similar.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Except that that's Bob Ross died right and was still Yes,
he had lymphoma from smoking, thank you?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
No, he wasn't he a Yeah, he was a chainsmoker smoker.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, so he even though he was in his fifties.
I believe he was young, early fifties. Most people don't
realize Bob Russ died ninety five. They think he died
much later because you only saw him in what looked
like reruns. Yeah, right, so you didn't realize. I think
the show basically ended when he died. A year or

(08:12):
two before he died.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh yeah, but the reruns have been going if you
would have said early nineties, I would have said, like
twenty eighteen exactly.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
I think most people would.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
So with Peter Max like, he's just I know, it's horrible,
unable to if he's alive. But Bob Ross couldn't do anything.
He wasn't with us anymore. There's a lot of money
to be made. He had, but according to the Smithsonian,
he painted over thirty thousand works.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Wow, okay, but that's what I was going to say.
And these these paintings will go for a lot, and
they should. I understand the funding and the charity and
everything back up ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
If I wanted to get a Bob Ross, is that
one thousand dollars? Is it ten thousand dollars? Is it
one hundred thousand dollars? Is it a million dollars? Like
I'm not getting a rem brand.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
I don't know how much an original would cost.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
And how you know what, I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed. In
twenty six years, how have I never known that those
pictures were stored down in Virginia? That is embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
This is the auction of the thirty paintings that they're
going to do for public broadcasting have an estimated total
value anywhere from eight hundred and fifty grand to one
point four million dollars.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
So let's just say total value a million for thirty. Yeah,
so what's a million divided by thirty?

Speaker 8 (09:35):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
You don't have to do it in your head. You
can take your shoes off.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Hi, Elliott the morning. Hello, Oh damn it? They own three?

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Really?

Speaker 1 (09:50):
By the way, are we shooting? Are we shooting in
a barrel with more people here? Because they're all housed
here own Bob Ross's.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Just because they're stored here doesn't mean that there easily.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's a good point. That is a good point. Where
am I going? Line six? Damn it? That guy owned three? Hi,
Yelly in the morning.

Speaker 9 (10:09):
Yes, this is me, Yeah, Hi?

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Who's this?

Speaker 5 (10:12):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (10:12):
This is Jimmy from New Camp County.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yes, sir, what can I do for you?

Speaker 10 (10:15):
My grandmother had to Bob Ross paintings when we were
growing up, are you.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (10:22):
This is back in the early eighties. So yes, he
had two in the kitchen.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Oh how did she?

Speaker 10 (10:28):
I don't know where she bought them.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I was going to say, how'd she come by those?

Speaker 10 (10:33):
I don't know, but I know my uncle has them
right now. He's got them stored into the garage, so
he's going to keep on for inheritance. But yeah, she
did have too Bob Ross paintings.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Is there any part of you that hopes and obviously
I don't want any illness or anybody to die, but
that day is going to come. Is there any part
of you that's like God, I hope they come to
me in the will.

Speaker 10 (10:55):
Yes, sir, because that's I was a huge Bob Ross
frand growing up and now these stupid tiktoks are coming
out with the AI Bob Ross is not funny. But
but yeah, I would. I would love to have those
paintings again. I would never sell them. I would probably
get them or inheritance to my kids. But yeah, I
would love to have them again.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Have them right, and listen, I don't want to trigger
you or set you off, but I'm not familiar. What
is what is this AI rip off of Bob Ross
that's going on.

Speaker 10 (11:23):
You see a lot of them. It's the AI up
that they're doing.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Sorry, sorry, yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I get it, I got it. Yeah, I know that's wrong.

Speaker 8 (11:40):
That's wrong.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. People are jackasses, all right?
Very good thank you.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
God.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Did you know that he is considered the most prolific
painter in history.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
In terms of volume? Yes, I would have bet against that.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Picasso is number two, No way at thirteen thousand works.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Wait, okay, so what is Bob at thirty and thirteen?
Is next?

Speaker 5 (12:12):
You know who?

Speaker 2 (12:12):
I would have guessed who was the.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Guy that did all of the Like I went to
guess Peter Max, who was the guy?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Was a Gelding?

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Who's that?

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Do you tell?

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Men?

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I'm from watching a little TV?

Speaker 7 (12:30):
No?

Speaker 2 (12:30):
No, who was the guy? Like? This probably goes back.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
They were very bright colors and they had like like
bodies in him, but they weren't real bodies, and they
were a.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Somebody helped me.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I'm not an art history major, but it would have
been like eighties nineties.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
I don't see anybody named Gelding. Gelding? Who's a painter?

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Girl? Girt? Girt? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Come on, sounds like you were almost there. No, come on,
somebody who specializes in equestrian art?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
No, come on?

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Is this something that would have been sold in like seers? No,
but he's a prince though that's the only thing you use.

Speaker 11 (13:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:18):
No, no, but yeah, but there's all orded stuff gets
turned into print.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
That's not what they're talking about. For a bout.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I understand that, but that's what I'm saying. No, this
would have done.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
He would have done like concert stuff and like like
like contemporary stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Come on, Helding, Gelding, Oh my god, Harol, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I got it.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
And you said concert stuff. I started there we go.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, he doesn't have more than Picasso, and only because
of like like mass, the ability just to be able
to sit and crank.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Uh, let's see, I don't see it's. I don't see
a number given to his It's it says that.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
But he's not the most.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Maybe he's because it does say he could sometimes do
forty pieces in a day. Maybe he's not considered for
this list. Oh okay, but then they say Bob Ross
and Kristen correct me if I'm wrong, didn't for each
show Bob Ross paint that image before the show, then

(14:31):
during the show, then a third one after the show.
So there's three versions of every why we have painting?
Say why he did that? Was it for prep? Oh? Production?
And then post?

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I guess maybe I have no idea. So there was
three of each one that's awesome. I'm learning so much
about Bob Bross. Hi Ellie in the morning. Yeah, Hi,
who's this?

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Hey, what's going on on?

Speaker 8 (15:00):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (15:01):
So it's funny that you're talking about this, because I
literally this morning when I got up, was watching the
documentary on Bob Ross. So yes, his The warehouse that
has all of his paintings is in Herndon, Virginia. The
people that are employed there are employed by his former
business partner, the woman who actually discovered him back before

(15:25):
he had his TV show or anything. And they have
one eight hundred numbers one eight hundred Bob Ross. And
you can actually call the warehouse and talk to them
about anything Bob Ross.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Can somebody do me a favor and look up.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
What numbers attached to Bob r o ss?

Speaker 2 (15:47):
I feel a phone call coming on?

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Hey are they And do the people in the documentary
do they come off as as dix or they seem
all right?

Speaker 8 (15:57):
They seem really awesome. The the former business partner, her
and her husband Bob Ross actually lived with them after
they discovered him, and it was by pure happenstance. There
was a painting class that the guy signed his wife

(16:19):
up for and the guy that was supposed to be
teaching the class quit or passed away, something like that,
and they brought in Bob Ross, and she said the
first time she saw him, she was just in awe.
She couldn't even paint that day. She just knew that
there was something really special about him, and they had

(16:40):
to figure out a way to get his paintings and
his style out to the world, So they got him
on the local access cable.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
The question does does Bob Ross have any ties to Herndon?

Speaker 11 (16:51):
Like?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
How did it all end up in Herndon?

Speaker 8 (16:54):
That's where they lived?

Speaker 2 (16:56):
The business partners, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (16:58):
The business partners and her husband. It says in the
documentary that he was former CIA, so they moved around
a lot during his career, but I guess they ended
up and hearned them.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Is that wait, that Bob Ross was former CIA?

Speaker 8 (17:15):
No, his business partner's husband.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Gotcha, gotcha? I got you. I was like, oh, is
this like he was in the Air Force.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Wasn't he like a drill instructor that I read Bob Ross? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Oh no, fooling?

Speaker 9 (17:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:25):
No?

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Who was the guy from the the Why can't I
think of his name? The Gong show, Chuck.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Barris, Chuck Barris, Elliott Siegel, and Bob Ross's business partner,
all famed, all rumored to.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Be in the CIA. All right, very good, thank you,
thank you, my friend. Nine one Wait, if it's an
eight hundred number, do I do nine one one eight?

Speaker 11 (17:51):
No?

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Why would I do that? Just nine one eight hundred.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
The last thing I want to do is if I
do nine one one eight hundred, I'm calling nine one one.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I don't want to do that. That's I'm just thinking
out loud.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Okay, Bob Ross Incorporated.

Speaker 9 (18:33):
Thank you for calling the Barbos company. This is jewing him.
May I hope you?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Hey, Joanna, this is Elliot calling from DC one on one.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
How are you?

Speaker 9 (18:40):
I'm good? How are you?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'm doing great? Thank you?

Speaker 8 (18:41):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Do you mind I'm going to put you on the
air real quick? Is that okay?

Speaker 11 (18:44):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (18:45):
No, no, no, I no not I no, no me.
I'm sorry. I'm not Joan Kowoski. I'm Joanna.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Oh that's okay. I just want to talk to somebody
who's from there.

Speaker 9 (18:53):
Okay, No, no, I'm sorry not I okay?

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Is there someone there? Is there someone there that I
should talk to?

Speaker 9 (19:01):
Give me one second. Okay, and I'm sorry. Your name
was Elliott again from.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
DC one on one your favorite radio staate okay, perfect
one moment? Hey do they know the candy people?

Speaker 5 (19:23):
All right?

Speaker 2 (19:33):
It's money to three people.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Everything else, it's.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
How long I want you to be on hold? Is
this the eternal hold?

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (20:15):
Hello, Elliott, I'm so sorry. My general manager got on
the other line at the moment. Can you give us
a call back or can I have them call you?

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah? What's good? A couple minutes?

Speaker 9 (20:24):
Yes, please?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
All right, very good? What's the what is that person's name?

Speaker 9 (20:28):
And Marisa?

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Who?

Speaker 8 (20:31):
Marisa?

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Marisa? Marisa?

Speaker 9 (20:34):
Yeah, you're in here, Chantilla, yes, chantelay.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Very good, I'm in Arlington. All right, very good? Thank you?

Speaker 9 (20:41):
Okay, thank you?

Speaker 2 (20:43):
You don't care?

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Right, So let's scale from one to ten. How did
that go?

Speaker 7 (20:58):
Two?

Speaker 2 (21:02):
We got to hold music?

Speaker 4 (21:04):
That's a hunter. I was going to say that made
my points.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Hi Ellie in the morning. Oh wait, oh sorry, hi
Ellie in the morning.

Speaker 10 (21:17):
Pie.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
By the way, I don't like the snoothiness out of
the warehouse.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Oh no, Chantilly, thank you?

Speaker 9 (21:26):
Not.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
I I rather I think I'd rather be in Herndon.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Oh no, not I.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Hello, Hello, yeah, Hi, who's this? Yes sir Mark? Hey Mark?

Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (21:45):
What can I do for you?

Speaker 8 (21:47):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (21:47):
So I he used to love to go to Chestpeake
Bay seafood House in Herndon.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Shut up? Are you here?

Speaker 1 (21:53):
On?

Speaker 8 (21:54):
Boor to god?

Speaker 12 (21:55):
I actually sat down and ate all you can eat
crab legs with him?

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (22:03):
Was he? Was?

Speaker 12 (22:03):
He a cool dude, super nice.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
The I.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Gotta tell you how I feels so stupid?

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Was he famous then? Like when you when you sat
and talked to him, well, yeah or not?

Speaker 8 (22:15):
You wouldn't have said had show? Yeah, he had his
show then.

Speaker 12 (22:19):
This was back in.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Late eighties, early nineties, indeed, but you don't have there.

Speaker 8 (22:25):
He was in there smoking away.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Right on, yeah, right on.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Love that love that. Well, it was the end of him.
All right, very good, very good, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yes, toler.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
So you originally asked how much these auctions may see
these paintings go for.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Oh they know, well, Diane said, could be anywhere between
high eight hundreds and low one point.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
Four s okay, And maybe that's because they know what
the effort is going for, because I guess they did
auction off too recently and they were one hundred thousand each.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Ooh, that's that's a lot of money. I don't know
what the cause was, the right, that's a lot of money.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
But it seems like I'm reading a lot of articles
from people who have called and gotten through and talked
to the managers and office managers of Ross and you
cannot buy direct from them.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
So so how how do how would you get one?

Speaker 4 (23:20):
It's through auction.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Solely through auction.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
That they are able to fund everything via his image
and the licensing of the Bob Ross look, which by
the way, he hated, right, Kristen, did he hate in
his haircut?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Wait, he hated the way he look?

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Yes, they couldn't afford with production, could afford to cut
his hair.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Seriously, there was not one person that could drag a flobies.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
And I believe it was already part of like a logo,
and so he couldn't kind of concern that it couldn't
change anyway, right, but from day one, and he.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Didn't have that throw and air force probably not, but wasn't.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Too This this may be wrong, that's okay.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
I'm getting ready to I'll ask him a Reese. I'm
getting ready to call him back because this.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
I didn't realize we were stretching for that. No, I did,
because a lot of information about him came out when
the documentary premiered was and this would keep it in
the area. Again was w E t.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
AA I used to.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Work there was WEEDA, the first PBS station air.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Oh to air Ross Oh. I would have no idea,
I have no clue. I know one person who would
know the answer to that, and I would rather.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Call him than no. Damn Hello, that would be a
great call line. Hi, Yellie in the morning.

Speaker 12 (25:03):
Good morning, Quinton and Richmond.

Speaker 8 (25:05):
What's up?

Speaker 7 (25:05):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (25:05):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (25:06):
What can I do for you?

Speaker 12 (25:09):
My granddaddy was the wing commander at the air Force
base that Bob Ross was stationed at, and from the
stories that he's told me, Bob was kind of a dick.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
No, I don't want to hear that.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Hey, that's military bob, Bob absolutely, what do you mean
he was a dick?

Speaker 12 (25:32):
I just heard story that he was just apprehensive to
take orders, a little bit insubordinate, cared more about his
paintings than protecting our nation.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Okay, like that, all right, we're going in not right now,
We're not not.

Speaker 12 (25:47):
But he was a much more handsome fellow in the
Air Force without the afro and beer.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
I can't I can't even imagine what that looks like.
I would never even come close.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
All right, dude, Hey, I appreciate it, thank you, thank you,
my friend.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Wow, that's him in the Air Force.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
Now he's also much younger.

Speaker 11 (26:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
No, I'll give you that, but it's not it doesn't
even look like the same person.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Correct, that's him?

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Oh my god, it totally does not look like it
like him.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
M no, way, oh that's new.

Speaker 9 (26:38):
Thank you for calling the Bob Ross Company. This is
joining him. Help you.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Hey, you know I was looking for Hi. This is
Elliott from DC one O one.

Speaker 9 (26:47):
Okay, yes, give me one moment. I'm actually going to
transfer YouTube jim Ki okay, oh yes, yeah, okay, and
we went on the ladder moment through.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
Okay, I'm you're president of Bob Ross in Corporation, Ellie.

Speaker 11 (27:22):
Then in the morning, get out of here.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Hey, hi, how are you by the way, just so
you know you're on the air.

Speaker 11 (27:28):
Okay, thanks, good, glad to know. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah no, that's an important part of the FCC. They're
not real fond of.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Me right now.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Hey, I got so can I I'm gonna be completely
honest with you.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Obviously I know who Bob Ross is, but I don't.
I didn't. I didn't know a ton about Bob Ross.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
But I was reading the story yesterday Joan about the
about some of the works that are going to be
auctioned off to help raise money to fund public television
because the.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Funding has been cut. So I was reading that and
I just thought, you know, this morning, like obviously it.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Would come up, and I was just trying to find out,
like I have no idea how prolific he was or
any of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
And I apologize for.

Speaker 11 (28:06):
That, but the no, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I was just trying to find out if I would
be able to find anybody at all who.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Has a Bob Ross painting. And then somebody was like,
you know, they're all in Herndon.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Although I was I was told Joanna said it's you guys,
consider it Chantilly.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, something's going on there.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
But I had no idea that all of his works
were right here and right in our backyard.

Speaker 11 (28:30):
See, we've kept that secret, didn't We do a good job?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Did And I'm sorry to have lifted the lid on
that how long? How did that come to be? Though?

Speaker 7 (28:39):
Like?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Why is it all here?

Speaker 3 (28:41):
All right?

Speaker 11 (28:41):
I'll tell you why it's all here. About forty five
years ago, my mother and father and Bob and his
wife Jane all went into business together. It's because my
mother took a painting class with him. He was nobody.
She took a painting class with him, and she thought
he was remarkable. So she went to my dad and said,

(29:03):
let's mortgage the house and help this guy. And that's
how the whole thing started. So the company is based here,
started in Herndon. We're in Chantilly now and that's why
everything's here. But we don't tell people, but I guess
we do now.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
And is the reason you don't tell people just because
you just you don't want you just don't want the
circus around it.

Speaker 11 (29:28):
Oh we had some circus, trust me, we've had circus.
But mostly I'll tell you why people don't know that
we're here is because really people don't even understand there's
a company behind Bob Ross. And we sort of do
that intentionally, right, you know, we want him to just
sort of be this ethereal fantasy figure and not necessarily

(29:51):
reveal that there's actually a little business behind everything that
you see going on, including the auction for the paintings.
So that's why we we don't really do a lot
of talking about how the sausage was made. We just
sort of let Bob do his thing and let people
be happy with it.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
You know what I love is I love you talking
about because I could never imagine doing it.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
And maybe maybe.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Joane, you're different because you come from a family that did.
I can't ever imagine somebody coming to me and going
I have a business idea. I just need you to
mortgage your house to help fund it. No, you know
what I mean, I'd be like, get the f away
from me. I'm not doing that.

Speaker 11 (30:31):
That is totally what happened. That is completely what happened.
And it's because my parents have always been sort of
open minded and adventurous about things. You know, they were
not closed off people. They were very sort of you know,
not conservative at all, and they thought this man was

(30:55):
incredible and duh, right, I mean you see what they saw.
If Bob Ross came to you and told you to
mortgage your house, you probably would Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Now, well, now if he did, I'd be like, holy craft,
something's going on. Yes, famous Bob Ross, famous Picasso could
come to me and I'd mortgage my house.

Speaker 11 (31:17):
Hey what exactly?

Speaker 2 (31:18):
And then and then so now so now.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
We start learning about all this stuff and everything. Is
it Is it true? Like there's you can't just buy
a Bob Ross picture correct or painting.

Speaker 11 (31:29):
So you cannot just buy a Bob Ross painting exactly.
There it's sort of starting to become more organized the
market for Bob Ross paintings. But up until now it's
just been private people where Bob handed somebody at painting
on his way out the door, or you know, he

(31:50):
stacked up a bunch of paintings for the garbage man
to pick up. And you know, there's a paintings. People
have paintings out there and they've been selling them for years,
but it's been sort of one on one, no actual,
you know, organized market until kind of lately as his

(32:13):
popularity has just surged beyond control. And now it is
getting more organized, and that's why we thought it Also
it was a good idea for us to go ahead
and step in to not only raise funds for public television,
but also to help sort of structure the market so

(32:35):
that you don't have buyers that are getting ripped off
with fake paintings and sellers getting ripped off because they
know their painting is worth more than thirty five dollars.
So it's been out there. There have been paintings out there,
and we certify them. We anybody who's got a painting
and they think it's a Bob Ross painting, we will

(32:56):
certify it because we we do know Bob paintings from
other paintings. And as a result, certifying them has also
helped sort of sort of organize the market. But then this,
this adventure where we're getting onto is gonna also help.

(33:17):
It's gonna set a better value. It's just been sort
of a big mess up until now, but this is
going to help.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
No, that's good, That's really good.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Hey do you do you do you do you own
a like aside from the business obviously, do you have
a do you have a personal Bob like? Is there
one like? Was there a favorite where you were like
this one? I'm keeping this one.

Speaker 11 (33:40):
I absolutely do. And he wrote my name on the
back because I called him who I So I do
have my very own and he wrote, you know, he
wrote because as he was painting so many paintings, and
if you wandered up to him and said I really
like that, he would give it to you. That's how
he was. So I do have my very own personal

(34:03):
Bob Ross painting with his handwriting on the back. And
I'm just I'm just getting all teary. I just even
thinking about it because it was a nice moment.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
True or false.

Speaker 8 (34:16):
W E.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
T A was the first public station to carry Bob Ross. No.

Speaker 11 (34:21):
The first station, the first station to produce his very
first series was a station that was in Annandale and
is now defunct. It's no longer around, which is too
bad because I think that they would have a lot,
a lot to talk about. But that station, and you

(34:43):
see the tower or you used to anyway driving around
the Beltway, and that station though, is no longer around.
Then after that first series, he went to Munsey, Indiana
to do the filming at the it's lovely there.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, it's so nice. You moved the business there.

Speaker 11 (35:10):
Yes, and so, and actually there's a little Bob Ross
museum up there. They show exactly where he stood. Yeah. Cool,
it's really cool. It is very cool. And he's sort
of like their native son. He's he's sort of a
you know, a local celebrity of sorts, and they've they've
set up a lot of stuff, you know, places where

(35:31):
you used to like to eat waffles and that.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
So well, listen, I hate to uh, I hate to
be so forward, but I would like to invite myself
in the show to come see the uh to come
see the warehouse.

Speaker 11 (35:43):
Oh my god, it's just a warehouse. It's literally there's
nothing here to see that.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
That's a very polite no. That is a very polite no.

Speaker 11 (35:53):
Like yes, at least we didn't talk. Let you out
on your ear, all right, very.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Good, very good.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Well you know what you I thank you very much
for I thought I was going to get Marisa.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
This is so much better the funny. I'm glad.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Here's what I do want to do, though, I am
going to want I'm going to put you on hold.
I want to make sure we have if anything Bob
Ross comes up. I want to be able to call you.
I want you to be my Bob Ross correspondent.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
One.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
I'm ready, excellent, excellent.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
I'd offer you a shirt, but I only delivered those
by hand hold time.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
One second.

Speaker 11 (36:31):
No, I don't need a shirt. Very nice to talk
to you.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
For Hold on one second, Hold on one second. I
love her.

Speaker 13 (36:44):
Oh she's on hold with us, Like, wow, I don't
need a shirt, just a warehouse.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
I love love her, love her. How great is she?

Speaker 4 (37:03):
I can't believe that's who we spoke to.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah, she runs the business

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Clearly, a lot of people listening are very familiar with her.