June 9, 2026 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Just put Rock the Capital into your search engine and
got a lot of material to cover today. But I
just wanted to start with the ass Brian component. So
there's a legislator that wants to refund two hundred and
fifty dollars or take. So the backstory is that it
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appears that we have about eight to nine hundred million
dollars more than we anticipate.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So when the PA budget, we're running a bigger surplus
than we anticipated. So one legislator or put forward a
plan to essentially give everyone a two hundred and fifty
dollars stipend to have a barbecue on July fourth, sort
of like as a promotion for the kind of like
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our two hundred and fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So what happens if you don't do the barbecue? I
mean I'm sure the guest industry is probably pissed off.
I mean, so you're gonna get two fifty.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Two fifty for eating for like each person? Does? I mean,
I feel like that's the crazy How much are you
eating at that barbecue? That's the question.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Well, I mean, you know, it's an interesting concept. I
thought i'd share it with people. It's not going to happen.
And also, I guess if you're a vegan, you're cut out.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Well tendant. It should be across the boards, right, vegan
normal American burgers and hot dogs. I'm just shot that.
You know, we're gonnat two fifty No, none of us bad.
Not if you want. Other countries they had we spent
two hundred fifty dollars a person of food, they would
be like, what are you eating?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
That's how much you spend in the city limits.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I remember this is a subject. I remember there's a
Korean buffet that came in and they and they offered
like all you can eat for like it was like five,
it was like seven. It was something really sinars and
I'm like, they're going to raise the prices. Within like
two weeks, they tripled the price because like they were
expecting normal like Korean style eating.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
That sounds like you got no, no, they'll eat out.
So the I'm not sure I understand this because I thought,
to me, this sounds significant regarding MPOs. So you have
two NIH researchers we were accused of attempting to smuggle
vials of deactivated my pox virus into the country. All right,
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so they're citizens of the Netherlands. I love this. In Cameroon,
yeah uh. And they were working for an NAH clinic
and out in Montana. So the thing that got me
about this is and maybe maybe this is not as
bad as it sounds, but found one hundred and thirteen
vials of this pathogen? Is this something we should be
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worried about?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, we should be worried about it. This was obviously
of this case. We have even previous cases there. Essentially,
bioweapons are trying to be smuggled in I think China.
One of the developments we saw from both the United
States and China is that there have been improvements in
bioweapon technology that especially if you could put a virus
out let's say something let's says as contagious as COVID,
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but we're much more deadly. You could destroy a country,
so we should worry about it. They were coming from Cameroon.
I think the interesting thing is they're carrying this in
like like a black vial boxes. Yes, yeah, you know,
you can't even get water bottles on airplane, so I
don't know how they thought they were.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
There's two things to get me. First of all is
when you look at what they're facing in terms of penalties,
it's like.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Five years, yeah, which is it.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Seems like it's not enough.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And the second thing is what would you do with
the vials that could possibly be good?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well, I think what they would they would say this
is obviously not true because you'd have to get NIH approval,
is that, oh, we're gonna use this for research, because
we do research viruses. We do try to figure out
how they work. That's how we get vaccines and solutions
to them. But if you're if you're bringing it in
with that nim was, notice that's not what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I mean it's probably gonna wind up being a condiment
at the barbecue. Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
The other wordy is that you you bring these viruses
along and they transmute or they change, they evolve, And
we saw that with cold. We see it with other viruses.
We see this now in Texas with I believe a
new tapeworm virus on.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
That worm trench trench. Yeah, it's basically been a boom.
This is weird for Mexico where we import cattle to
rays and so we're gonna, I think, put a hot
atus on this. But the Mexicans have a different way,
even though they have like sixty cases and we only
have one.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, but it multiplies quickly.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Crew worm, it's called the screw very unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yes, super and that's going to raise food prices. I
think this has happened from South America. We had we
actually got rid of it in the United States over
about three decades, and then South America we started importing
food from there. We didn't we weren't careful.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, I mean, look, on the other hand, screw worm,
it's the force pornographic worm a double time. So this
thing really got me. It didn't surprise you as much.
So Guatemala is going to collaborate with the American government
on drug trafficking, and and you have this three country
area with Guatemala, Salvador and Honduras. So drug gangs have
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always been a problem there. I don't know about the
import export aspect of it, and you you do have
a lot of gang violence. But by the same token,
these three governments are very far right wing and facilitate
desk squads. So this is what got me. The Northern Triangle, Honduras,
L Salvador in Guatemala. Since twenty nineteen, two million people
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have left the country. Yeah, is there anybody left?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
There are people left, But you're right. In fact, this
actually goes back. If you remember at the end of
Obama's term when Trump was running for office, there was
a huge influx from Central America in the Triangle country.
So that's what and it was sort of thing drug
cartels and stuff. I think it's a success of L. Savagor.
Our Salvagors got a president. He basically threw all these
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guys in prison or killed them. There were mistakes and
people got picked up, people that maybe shouldn't have got
picked up, that picked up. There wasn't as much a
due process. But if you could parents the murder rate
of where it was to where it is now, which
is Al Salvador's now the safest country in all the
Western hemisphere, which would be insane years.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I would have to look at the data. I've been there,
and it's a gorgeous country. But the right wing militias
they weren't overlooking anybody. They took who they could. I mean,
when you say, you know, the entries are safest, safest
for who, I mean, you know, half the country.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's like, I think, just to put the argument aside,
is that the violence was so bad and no one
was doing anything realistically about how people don't say it
was the country was at like Detroit level murder levels.
That's that's not that's just you know, insanely high.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Do they have Detroit level auto distributorships? So what I'm
saying is that the irony is that the way they
reduce violence was violence. Yes, but there was no due process.
So you know, we'll see how it works out. I
was in Central America in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
And it was raw and and listen, that's why if
you look at the agreement the President of came out.
I was like, this is not the full scope of
what they're saying. We have constitutional limits, rasking for technology
help we control the information all that. You said that
right away. Because people are worried about the both previous
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abuses potential current abuses, but also they're worried about they
don't want the drug cartels in power. And if you
look at the places. I mean we're talking about the
World Cup in Mexico, the drug cartels basically gave kind
of like a statement saying that we're not going to
mess with the World Cup. It's like, well, that's like
a month and a half. You got to live with them,
you know, the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I think the problem is is that it's the evil
of two lessers. So there's got to be something better
than the drug hotels and you know, death squads, which unfortunate,
but all those countries rely on America for military support. Yea,
hopefully not fishing, because that'll be the first thing to
go with the fishing boat. So I got to ask
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you something and nobody. I don't know if people are
talking about as much as I think they should be.
There's a labor dispute at Hershey Park, that's right, so
it has the ability to I would imagine closed down
the park Hotel, Hershey Giant Center. This is interesting because
people don't know this. The history of unionization in her
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sheet was brutal, was brutal in the nineteen thirties. Are
a lot of opposition from farmers who were equipped with
weapons just to pound people. Oh wow, this one. I
don't think they're actually striking, but they may strike.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So they voted for essentially a potential strike. So the
authorization has gone through. It's essential maintenance operation workers, Hershey Park,
the hotel, Giant Center, it's the local six forty four
sixty four union. Yes. And then so they overwhelming and
rejected a labor contract. And it is exactly wages, healthcare costs,
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retirement benefits, and a lot of this is coming down.
We see this at the government level. Retirement benefits and
healthcare costs. Essentially those those two, all those are getting
pulled back because they essentially we over promised and then
underfunded and then or couldn't fund the level of promise
we had. And so a lot of private companies are
that are going to start rolling those backs. So it's
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gonna be I think what's gonna happen is they'll agree
to higher wages, but they'll they'll keep in the retirement
and healthcare benefit reduction. This is what I think is
gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Oh, let's see what happens. I mean, it's the sweetest
place on earth, and this is the right time to strike,
kind of like striking garbage workers in the summer. I'd
like to see what the replacement candies look like. I'm
gonna to give that the thought. So this is Eric Apstan.
I'm in with Millennial Brian. The show is Thunderdome. The
organization has rocked the capital and we're being produced by
Art Selby. So is it me or it seems like
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a lot of our sponsors or either gaming interests or
people that are deaf. So I guess if they went
to the casino, they wouldn't be distracted.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
To be locked in. Well, if you think about that's
where the kind of older people and then we're gaining.
We've talked at a ton about how it's going.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Ever you have this is what's wrong with America. And
in that commercial they didn't say anything bad, but the
death of America began when we create especialty beers that
tasted like fruit loops and hamburgers the way they were
supposed to be. They were supposed to be made with
like asphalt. So I mean, now there is it's like
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gourmet Hamburger is like, man, dude, it's a Hamburger. Beer
bear was supposed to burn when it went down. Man,
you know, anybody got four years old drinking beer smoking.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
We see, we see with bikes bicycling, you see no gears.
We got hill both ways. Now you got electric bikes.
They go like cars just like. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Brian and I were in Washington on Wednesday and we
were on the sidewalks and these electric bikes just came
cruising through. It's interesting to me that people believe that
just because that green man tells you to go and
they goes yellow and then it goes red, those are
not advisory. It means the cars can go through.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, but they don't. Yeah, but there's something weird about
with especially with a bicycle. A lot they believe they
had the right way all the time. It's like you're
dealing with two thousand pounds cars. I would be very careful.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, it's not like Europe that had a separate bike
lane built in. Yeah, and so this is we're gonna
have to retroactively find a way because apparently more people
would like to buy. It's like, and I get it,
but there appears to me to be certain times, like
when it's heavy rain or heavy snow or just snow
or ice, where it would be dangerous, well would be
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dangerous for anybody. So uh, and I'll get back to
you about the alternative chocolate there is I think such
thing as alternative. In fact, you know when you when
I was in Europe, they the Swiss and British chocolate
were highly touted.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Okay, they were good? Were they good or were they
just like they just wanted their own brands to Because
I've always found that like sometimes technology and food you
know in the United States is wife years a headery one.
You get these like British food, European food or other.
I mean it's just not your.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
European food is a little thick. Other foods are good.
I lived in London ate, well probably not healthy, you know,
I had a lot of palm and launch. You go
to the the excuse me, the bar of the tavern,
which used to close at like two thirty because of
the old World War One. Well, so you had fun. Yeah,
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so you go get something to eat. But yeah, I
mean the other country's fresh food. I think it's better food.
They also smoke, so it's a interesting deal. I had
a problem because the family I was staying with, who
I told I was a vegetarian, decided I.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Wasn't that that could be a tough Yeah, well.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
You know what I did. This is a true story.
I was so frustrated. They used to deliver milk and
bottles and they deliver them in the front of the house,
and so it was like, you know, ken Yvonne, I'm
paying money, but you know, you know, I don't want
to eat you know, fried roadkiller whatever. So peanut butter
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was is I don't know if it still is a luxury.
I said, all right, this is how we're gonna do
it American. So the two bottles came in the morning,
I drank and both ate all the peanut butter and
went to school, and uh, things decided to break down.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Really they're shocked, but they're probably just surprised that you
ate all the peanut butters. Yeah. You look, they don't
understand the portion sizes. But you know, it's just.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
They said to me on the way out, you know,
we've had our differences. Uh, he said, we have two
University of Virginia football players come in and stay with us,
and should I be worried I said, I'd be worried.
I said, man, they're gonna, they're gonna. You gotta get
them too, three stakes.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Their own refrigerator and their own refrigerator of food, like
you know what you're dealing with.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
The Yeah, I didn't ask, and things had broken down
to this point that I'm sure my response wasn't that
that that great? So I forgot to say, uh, get
well to Jeannie who's recovering from a heart attack. Uh.
And to Larry's buddy Jimmy. Uh, hopefully there's no tailspin,
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you know. And then also regards to Kathy and Nancy
and Steve. So these are the people that I pay
to go to lunch with me. Okay, so there's two
things that call my attention. So, Canadian travel to the
US is down forty two u and one I didn't
know this, Over third of all international visitors of Pennsylvania,
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more than half a million tourists were from Canada, which
seems so you then look at Leancaster. So Leancaster, for
the first time in five years, had a decrease in
tourism by one point seven percent. And so I guess
what I'm saying to you is the Canadians not coming.
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That's a significant economic impact. It's hard for me to
observe and say, hey, the Canadians aren't.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Here right well, they was being honest. They blend in cultury.
It's still American, it's you know, so it's not like
it's something you notice. I think. I mean this started
probably with the tariff war and then just kind of
fifty first state going back, and then there's you know,
a big push in Canada to be like, don't go
to the US stuff of that. I think it's gonna
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side though, because I mean, have you want stuff to
do and places to go When you're in Canada and
it gets cold, like cold cold, you're telling me you're
not gonna go to Florida. You tell me you're not
gonna go to something California. Tell me you're not gonna
go to Vegas. Like what's the equivalent of Vegas in Canada.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Oh, it's like Winnotago. No, I mean, coming to America.
Snowbirds in the Southwest and the South is likely not
to change unless I guess you look at like British Islands.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I heard that some people are they're choosing Mexico because
Mexico's cheaper, so you could essentially you could raise your
sort of income level as long as you get in
certain areas. And Mexico City is probably probably the most
underrated city in North America people that haven't been there
because a lot of the cartel nonsense you hear about.
It's right on the border. Mexico City is a huge
I think it's the biggest city in North America, a
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great metro system, very established suburbs. A lot of expats
go down there, so I could see that, But I
think long term, this is the same thing with trade,
like with the tariffs and stuff. You know, we're two intertwined.
Like eventually you're just gonna everyone's gonna cut a deal.
Because it's especially from Candida. I mean, the geography is geography.
There's only so much you can do. You can do
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some stuff, but you can't.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah. Look, Trump had mindless diplomatic gestures. There's no reason too,
you know, in flame Canada Mexico. Ironically, he and Nancy
Pelosi had negotiated a noon AFTA treaty. But for Canada
it's and it doesn't matter what the price of asses,
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because this is that I would assume everybody's flying somewhere.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, I mean that still effects because jeff fuel is
getting pushed off. I mean it still raised the prices.
I think one of the things we don't know about
Canada is Canada has we talked about the States a lot,
like different states, different promises, which have huge different regulations.
It's been a real hard So it's actually very difficult
to fly in Canada, very difficult. And so it's actually
easier just to fly in the United States or just
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to drive over. I mean, think about Buffalo, you think
about Vermont, you.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Think driven over. But I mean I guess that cancels
out hijacking a plane in Canada.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I mean, actually I'd be frowned upon it.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, so this is what was interesting. I really don't
know what defines a tourist, and so for Lancaster County,
they define tourists or visitors who have stayed in Lancaster
County or traveled more than fifty miles to get there.
So what's interesting, even though there was a decrease, there
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was an increase in the amount of revenue that brought in.
And Lancaster has a wonderful, vibrant tourism industry.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, unless you've been out there. It's very impressive. It's
probably you know, the third biggest city in the state
growing all the time.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Is a third, right, I don't think so, but I
mean I think it's Philly. Pittsburgh after that, I have
no idea. Probably eerie, but they're.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
A big city as a trip a baseball has music,
which is much bigger than.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
The music and art density for any other Pennsylvania city.
It's got F and M in the inside of the city.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Next to it in the local sports, there's something right
out there, I'm pretty sure with the sports complex, well
used to be.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I forget what the name of the sport sports complex
was before. Was it Clippinger. I think it was Clippinger
Stadium because the people that founded Clippinger had gone to
F and M. But it's a great stadium. It's built
inside of the city and it's open twelve months a
year there there it's available in the winter. Yeah, but
I mean it it's just a different feel having a
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ballpark in the city.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah. Anyone who's del with youth sports and seeing the
travel over the summer, I mean, that's just that drives
way more travel with people. I mean, people know about
sort of the Little League Courts series, but everything around that,
all the AU basketball, all those torments. If you can
get those tourments, people show up for every weekend. That's right. Yeah,
that was what I was trying to think.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
They have a lot going on. What people are still
coming for the Amish. You know, my relatives used to
come and take pictures of cows. Uh. You know a
lot of New Jersey, New York people you're just like going, dude,
why take a picture You're eating it? You know, always
kind of rude with the Amish, which is disappointing. But
they have something that very few cities have. They have
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Christian tourism. They have yes, yeah, I can't think of
the I don't know if art will remember, Uh, it'll
come to me, but it's a like they Yeah, they
have a that does Christian or Biblical tours and stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
The biblical stuff is real good. Uh and uh, sight
and sound. Outside of Strausburg. They also have rock lit.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Its yeah, which is basically we've got those tax credits
for the music. Taylor Swift went there to quorder music.
I mean, that's I don't know if you can figure that.
The question is always with tax credits is it worth
it is the juice worths the squeeze. Are you getting
what you're asked for? I mean a separate discussion.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I don't think they need.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
But yeah, well it's like, for example, the Chicago Bears
or leave in Chicago going to Indiana based entirely on
the tax credits and benefits. Yeah, it's going to happen,
and so they moved right. It's right over the border,
so it's not a crazy move, but.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Kind of like New York being in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Someone was yes, it's exactly what it's like. I think
someone brought up that Indiana built a huge casino there
and so in their mind they get the stadium out there.
Whatever they'll pay for it is worth it.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah. I don't know if Art knows, but I think
Pittsburgh their stadiums are close to a casino. It's great,
you know, yeah, having fun, drinking, probably too much, gambling
too much. It wasn't too much money. That last going
to say that. I loved what they set for the
Shippersburg casino, who's probably our best sponsor. The tagline is
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you'll get lucky in no time. Well, now is that
gaming or dating?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
That's that's why it's a great marketing campaign.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Eric apstarted in with Mani Obrian. We are Thunderdome. The
show has rocked the capitol. We're being produced by Art
Selby and when we come back, we'll talk about the
death of CBS. All right, Art, if you're out there,
you were saying that sit and sound that experience is
really pretty amazing.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Oh yeah, I've been there three times.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
It's so cool.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I mean they have all the animals trained to run
up and down the oul and how.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Did they do that? How do you have animals? I
mean somebody has to go to the bathroom sometimes.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Just a lot of repetition with treats probably and some
skilled trainers. And and you're sitting there in the crowd
and there's stuff going on like in every direction. And
I mean there's actors and things going on everywhere you look.
And it's so well done. It's so neat to see.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Well, it's a it's a brilliant production. But it's a
great family destination.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
There's so much to do in Lancaster. And you know,
I don't know that I've been there. I was thinking
it's out near Strasbourg. I could be wrong, but if
it is. Then it's near the Strasburg Railroad, which is
another tourist venue.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
It's yeah, I've been there three times. It's a it's
It's definitely a great place to go. There's no doubt
about it.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's gonna be a unique city because the Amish just
like the most you know, well known old school style
living and you have this kind of growing city inside
of it that's modernizing and stuff like that. It's gonna
be just.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
It's a problem for the Amish is you know, we're
running out of land there, so all the time have
moved to Juniata County or Snyder County. We have the
largest Amish population of any state. They own a lot
of land, but there's only so much land, and they
tend to reproduce at a healthy rate, super healthy rate. Yeah,
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so I would imagine they're just probably gonna need to
go and look where there's more land. A lot of
the Amish, you know, and they're very good carpenters find
work doing that. But it's you were talking about the
you know, bikes sharing the lane with a car and
the cars aren't you know, there's going to have to
be some kind of education for both automobile drivers and bicyclists,
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but Amish. You know there's a couple of horrific crashes
every year.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well yeah, because they're using like it's using horses on
a roads design.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
For Well, what I always wondered is could you get
in the Jewish religion, it's called a hallaja, like some
kind of uh for barons that you could put more
stuff on the buggy. Carry a black buggy at night,
frozen ice. Things aren't going to happen.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Oh yeah, I mean that. Yeah, that's gonna turn over once.
You're also relying on people to kind of know how
to deal with it on the road and be patient
about Some people are not. I remember I was watching
the show and the guy was talking about it's like,
you know, when they buy them, it's like buying a
house because it's not like a car where it goes out.
I So you buy essentially for your whole life. You
want to use the horse and buggy, so it's a
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different type of purchase.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
In the car, some of are pretty nice inside.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I've never been on well best some of the the
Amige do very well. I you know, I was that
we used to have the small business that would buy
those palettes. At the auctions, the Amish would win like
sixty percent of yees, so they have a huge financial backing. YEAD.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
We had to use furniture an antique store for ninety years,
so when we went to the auctions in Lancaster County,
they'd blow your doors. I mean, but look, uh, you
know they're there. I think for many of us that
you don't even notice. I mean, there's part of the
fabric of the community. But I would love to see
an Amish metal band.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
All these crossovers.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
No, no, there's going to be an amage band. And
did you ever see there's Kiss has a band where
there's a mimic of kiss a small person kiss.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Small person kiss. Wow. Yeah, you always got You're always
on the forefront of these new ideas.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Ten years from now they'll be looking bike ball in
the end. So the CBS, which used to be the pinnacle,
the high mark for journalism, has taken a number of
hits CBS. The station removes Stephen Colbert and replaced him
with Byron Allen, who I remember used to be a
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comic years ago. They lost market share immediately. They're not
going to recoup it. And I think what they're trying
to say and correct me if I'm wrong, is that
the humor is too woke?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
It's well, yeah, So Barry Weiss founded the Free Press
organization and this was in the Barry Weiss she used
to work in the New York Times. She was a writer,
and she's gonna be put in charge of she hasn't
put in charge of CBS. And she formed the Free Press,
which was kind of like an anti woke she I
guess Critical Thinking organization, which was after the George Ford
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and COVID were woke, I reached its peak. She formed
that as kind of like a counterbalance. And so she
got brought in when Larry Elson acquired CBS.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
And what how did he make all that oracle?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Oracle he owns works. So that's that's the health of
data analysis health. That's the big thing. He's doing health data.
So he's mapping genomes, trying to find essentially new Yeah,
the g l P one type stuff. He's not the
one that essentially makes the vaccines. He's just one that
gives out the data for all these companies, all these
companies of getting there the health data from him there.
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So he's also argued for hipA reform to get more
data from people to use a well.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Before we dwelling David Ellison and is the island he
owns in Hawaii. He bought Paramount I believe.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, bought Paramount was owned CBS.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
So it's clear that and Trump and else in her
close friends. Anybody can associate with anybody. The impact is
kind of stunning. CBS was the gold standard when it
came to news, and it was still making money. So
what I find out Brians forget the ideology. You're killing
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programs that are profitable.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But she came in just so yes, I hundred present
agree that. You know, yeah, well Colbert is different because
Colbert was losing money, but he had an orange market
share and having that type of program, you know, you
assume attracts other investors and stuff like that. But she
came in to essentially try to neutralize the news side.
(29:05):
So Allison thought it was too far left. He thought
it was it was too biased, and he wants Barry
Wise to come in and essentially center it. Essentially say,
you know, every left wing story you do, you have
to have a right wing story every time you do
a story with let's say certain perspective, you have to
give a right response. He's trying to sort of bring
it into I guess what he with CNN was supposed
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to be in kind of the nineties, you know, went
away from that to more breaking news stuff like that.
But I mean that's what they want. And so when
Scott Pelley, who was the sixty minutes guy, criticized her
and saying to change sixteen minutes and she fired him,
I think that's that's what she's trying to make a
cultural change to weed switching from what is perceived left
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wing bias to a neutral.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I'm buying it, say Fox News, why doesn't Ellison buy that,
purge it and have a left wing perspective. It's not
gonna happen. I mean, these guys are going in with
an agenda. You have money, Uh, you have the ability
to do what you want. There's absolutely no way that
this will be an unbiased entity. And that'll be lost.
You know that. That's like a historic marker. I think
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what happens and everybody knows this. When you tell someone
not to watch something.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
They weren't watching them more. Yeah, once you do something
to take away I mean even though Stephen Colbert when
did his ratings go up a lot is when he
had that incident with Trump and they try to take
them on the same thing with Kimmel when he had
the incident with Trump and try to take them up
his opposition, and that hurts that, that benefits the rating.
It's just people. People don't like taboos being placed on them. Well,
I think it's I think it's kind of interesting because
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you kind of have like the woke on the left
side that likes to do that and put kind of
taboos on certain things, try to cancel their things and
may become more popular, and they have kind of the
right that's doing maybe at the exact sient, but similar
we're trying to replace these taboos and they become more popular.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
This is this is this. So this is a fundamental axiom.
The media is only as liberal as its conservative ownership,
and the major papers have already been co opted. Washington
Post is owned by Bezos New York Times, so you're
not getting as much investigative journalism, although the New York
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Times is an excellent article I'm that guy running for
Senate in Maine, which we should hit. But look, this
is from a political point. It's a strategic bonanza because
people just don't read, you know, they're watching stuff. Yes,
and look what Fox News did is it's entertainment. So
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they're smart enough. I mean, it's the colors and the
blinking lights and yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
But they also got a market, which is they wanted
the right wing market. They said, we're gonna get the
right wing market when we have left wing people on
us for a debate, basically, and they got it, and
they they became what the most successful cable news show
because they understood the market that and so more organizations
have gone that way. I think as technologies advanced, the
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gatekeeping and sort of the centralization of the news has
gone away. And so now you have not just way
many different options as channels, but platforms like YouTube and
TikTok and all this stuff acts to get your news from.
So now you have all these so now you don't
have kind of like a essential narrative like the Tom
brokeall or like you know, kind of like the watch
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the local news, watch the national news. Here's for now.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
That was part of the fifties sixty seventy nuclear family.
Even in the nineties, right dad came home, he read
the paper, smoked a pipe, tobacco pipe that is, and
you watch the news and then you watch the evenings.
We weren't aware of any bias. I'm not saying that
there wasn't. But you have a platform now where nobody
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has a collective experience. Yes, unless you're watching a sporting event.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
That's one hundred percent right. Sporting events are one of
the only plays a place where you can get that.
I mean even TV shows. There used to be like
a Seinfeld, Like everyone watched this episode of Seinfeld and
they would talk about it. They still are now they now,
but now it's different. I think that the key is
how do you to dominate? Netflix dominates this by binge watching.
So they say, they release the series. It becomes super popular.
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Everyone watched it, but not at the same time. It's
not like Tuesday at three. It's like good.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
But that's fair. I mean, look, the end of the day,
cultural cultural change is threatening to people who have lived
in one you know way or the other. You know.
I still know people very bright who won't do Internet,
and some people like me who's never driven an electric car.
Uh So technology just marches on, you know, whether you
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are a willing participant or a victim in this case.
I don't think a victim, but I think the media
and Trump has been successful. The credibility left right center
is gone.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, there's yeah, no one, no one lies outside their bubble.
And then it becomes harder hard to get things done.
It's almost weird. We almost have like two countries where
one roots against the other when they're in power. Like
you know, you see people, you see right wing people
almost rooting for what's say, California to have bad things happen,
and you see left for people in the job left
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from people bad things that happened to like Florida and Texas.
So it's like, it's not like the nineties, eighties and
nineties where you had a collective kind of experience and
country where you had your disagreements, but you wanted a California.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
It was erouding then, I mean, I look, there's been
two Civil wars. This is the third. The first Civil
War was the American Revolution Loyalists against Patriot you know,
Civil War number two North versus South, and now we're
in Civil War number three.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It's but it's online. It's one.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
We'll have to check that out. So by the way,
shout out to Big Blue. We weren't trying to insinuate
that you were overtaken by any other legends. Yeah, yeah,
we would like to have you back. Hopefully your fourth
divorce is going well. So this is Eric Capstein and
Millennial Brian. We're in today hosting Thunderdome. We're from Rock
(35:08):
to Capital and we are being produced by Art Selby,
who's relaxed, just coming back from vacations. All right, we've
got about ten minutes. Want to close it out with
some phenomenally obnoxious political developments. So if you're not pissed
off already, we expect you to have a heart attack.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
At the end.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
But the first thing is, and I don't know if
people know this New Jersey as a congressman who's been
missing in action since like March fifth.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
It hasn't voted and won the primary.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Won the primary. Nobody was running against it. Yeah, which
is an issue because the Republicans it appears it's close
to being tied with the Demo.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Oh yeah, very close. It's all for grabs, this midsterms.
But we've seen this problem, you know, just multiple times now.
Diane Feinstein, yeh, she was, like people said months before
she died. She needs to leave conquss.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
She was. She was actually a really good planter, uh
in the Senate. You know, it was a you know,
house plan that's but the problem was her staff were
doing the work she was elected to do. In this case,
the guy ain't around. His dad was a famous politician
(36:24):
in New Jersey. Yeah, yeah, the governor of New Jersey.
But I think there's something going on that's more than
an illness.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Okay, there's a weird situation because you're trying to protect
sort of family privacy and stuff like that, but then
you can't you can't serve. I mean, there might just
be some baremen requirements. I think that we might have
to look at an age cap on legislas. I know
people are very concerned about that. But we keep seeing
with Biden at the end, like he you know, uh, McConnell,
(36:57):
a lot of these guys.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
McConnell lately he could Edgar Bergen was eventulo because McConnell
now could be his dummy. That's what he looks like,
you know, a human sized dummy. But I think the
problem is that people do get sick, regardless of what
their profession is, and they get ill and they need
f M l A. I get it. The one of
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the antidotes would be is to deduct pro rate their
pay based on attendance.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
That that could work one hundred percent. Those has to
be like an independent sort of like listen, we're gonna
have a We're gonna have a by election. And I
know when the UK they do this, when someone like
basically can't serve and there's not like an election in
the near term, they'll just have they just say, right,
you're out because you're sick or whatever, We'll have a
by election so all the parties get to rerun election
(37:48):
that local county will re elect. That's what I think
I do because otherwise, you know, to have people just
say we'll wait to the midterms or wait. What it
was the Center that's six years, you're gonna wait.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Now you're not gonna wait. But the appointment usually comes
a senator comes from the governor of the state, if
you remember, that's what Boganovitch got in trouble for Obama left.
So they made a deal and he was in Chicago,
so he didn't really think it was a big deal.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Because I would not do that. I would just I'd
make that illegal I'd say you just run let another election,
just having an election.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
It's hard to take power from people that's already have it.
So we've got a bizarre two state election where we
have a really bad Republican and a really bad Democrat.
So in Texas, John Cronin was defeated by Ken Paxton,
who was the Attorney General of Texas, and he's been
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involved in bribery, misuse of office, fallse statements, extramarital affair, the
whole kit kaboodle.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
And he almost got well, he did get impeached, and
then he got founded.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
He was a peach by the Texas legislature. Right, So
the Senate was behind Cronin, who's a moderate and very conventional,
and Paxson won by a lot and Trump at the
last minute said he has my endorsement. Yeah he won. No,
he's gonna run against a guy named James tell A
Rico who's going to be a pretty good opponent. I
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don't know that he's ever going to get passed. Calling
God non binary.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
We had he had during say, like the peak woke movement.
He had statements that were in line with that that
you can't say if you want to win a Texas race. Now,
the question is during this midterm where I think it's
going to swing to the Democrats because of just historical tribes,
but also gas prices in the unpopularity of the around war.
Does he have a better shot. Yes, but I think
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they're gonna use this. They're gonna go after.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Him for he he I've seen him. He's you know,
he's a competent politician and Republican strategist or a little
nervous because the last guy to run.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Oh better better work. Yeah, two and a half points,
that's right. Yeah, I listen, Texas is much closer than
people realize. I think the the last presidentialution it was
it wasn't that close. But yet you've had Senate races
where it's been close. H You've had governorships where it's
been close, and then you could argue those are state's issues,
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like Ted Cruz is what was unpopular in Texas or
not as popular as most repopular.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah, he hasn't said a lot, even though Trump accused
his father of assassinating candidate.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
It's always the craziest thing when you go back, he'll
get these you know what it's.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Like they're calling the Democrat in this race, the first
transposition transgender senate candidate because he's gay.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
He's not gay, he's just he's just kind of like
a little weird.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
One of the taglines was you're not going to let
a gay cowboy represent Cowboy country, are you? And interesting
because I think you're right. You Also, the other issue
you have is that's an oil state and we've got
a lot of volatility with the oil. So Baxston is
not a great candidate. Then you go to Maine where
you have this guy who's first time politicians, Graham planteer.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Planter, oyster, farmer and former marine inventor.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, and he was doing so well that the other Democrat,
uh dropped out and that other Democrat was a governor.
So now he had a Nazi tattoo on his chest.
And I saw him interviewed yesterday and he said he
didn't know it was a Nazi tattoo. I said, but
I guess people don't look at the chest all the time.
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I mean maybe the chest hair grew over it. But
then there's like there's been now a series of sexual
misconduct allegations.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, bad Voice is the girlfriend's abuse allegations. He also
has like his Internet history, you know of like read
a posts threatening you know, kind of kill people or
enjoying killing people or talking about civilian deaths. So it's
not it's not great. He's also got caught in just
like a few lies. Now politicians a lot all the time,
so that's not unique to him. But it's just I
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think the worry is this is not gonna end like
the idea that you know, he's gonna have a use
allegations from one world.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
But what I find is interesting is this is that
the Democrats must call this guy out. It's similar to
when Democrats to the Republicans must call Trump out for
that TV video diferents Hollywood video. So you can't have
two standards. It's the same for feminists. It doesn't matter
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for the Democrat or Republican. If the person is engaged
in sexually inappropriate behavior, you got to call them out.
Well here's the thing, but it doesn't always happen that way.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Well, it doesn't happen that way. And I saw a
segment of two segments. One was with James Carville and
one was with a woman named Abby Phillips, and she, uh,
she basically said, like are we just passed the character
part of politics that you know, the Bill if you
go to the modern or the Bill. Clinton and Ron
Reagan both had different scandals. People kind of ignored them,
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but they were still prominent. Now, are these personal scandals
just don't matter? Trump planning all these guys. It's more
about the party of the ideology because one thing you
hear when you look at listen to the voter to
talk about it. They say, all right, well I wouldn't
date them, but you know I'm not. I don't want
to like Susan Collins. And so they're in that binary choice.
And so that's that's their argument, is that the character
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for the ability to essentially vote for a different party
a different person based on character is not because we're
so polarized, is dimissions.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Look, the higher the character, the more attack. I mean,
you're they're gonna find something about you, no matter how
clean you are. So you need to articulate a platform
that resonates with people. I mean, people are very forgiving
of Trump, which is interesting because Democrats during the Clinton
era were just absolutely frustrated that he would throw it
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all away.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Oh yeah, But that's my point though, is that like
in that era the Democrats to come out and be like,
you know, we don't support this at all this like now,
I don't think they would. If Bill Clinton got caught today,
it'd be like it's two week story, you know what
I mean to be like, all right whatever, and then
the same thing vice versa, like I don't think the
part I think the parties are electing our guys and
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getting the policies we wanted implemented is so much more
important and the risk of losing is so much greater
and scary.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
It's they're just they don't compromise. It's a dirty word
for them. By the way, if Clinton had done then
now what he did then is I mean he would
need a ton of barrel of iagara. So okay, So
art on that note, how much time do we have left?
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Too much?
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Actually two minutes? I know you have about a minute
ten all right.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
So anything you want to update us on in your life.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
I'm just getting back from my assate Gallens camping. So
I heard him gorgeous, Oh beautiful, beautiful. Yeah, okay, you're
still you're still good. You got fifty seconds fifteen fifty
Go ahead, bry.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Well, enjoy the world up this summer. I think the
US will get to the round of sixteen and he's
gonna win it. I think it'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Couldn't care less
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Just put Rock the Capital into your search engine and
got a lot of material to cover today. But I
just wanted to start with the ass Brian component. So
there's a legislator that wants to refund two hundred and
fifty dollars or take. So the backstory is that it
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appears that we have about eight to nine hundred million
dollars more than we anticipate.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So when the PA budget, we're running a bigger surplus
than we anticipated. So one legislator or put forward a
plan to essentially give everyone a two hundred and fifty
dollars stipend to have a barbecue on July fourth, sort
of like as a promotion for the kind of like
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our two hundred and fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So what happens if you don't do the barbecue? I
mean I'm sure the guest industry is probably pissed off.
I mean, so you're gonna get two fifty.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Two fifty for eating for like each person? Does? I mean,
I feel like that's the crazy How much are you
eating at that barbecue? That's the question.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Well, I mean, you know, it's an interesting concept. I
thought i'd share it with people. It's not going to happen.
And also, I guess if you're a vegan, you're cut out.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Well tendant. It should be across the boards, right, vegan
normal American burgers and hot dogs. I'm just shot that.
You know, we're gonnat two fifty No, none of us bad.
Not if you want. Other countries they had we spent
two hundred fifty dollars a person of food, they would
be like, what are you eating?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
That's how much you spend in the city limits.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I remember this is a subject. I remember there's a
Korean buffet that came in and they and they offered
like all you can eat for like it was like five,
it was like seven. It was something really sinars and
I'm like, they're going to raise the prices. Within like
two weeks, they tripled the price because like they were
expecting normal like Korean style eating.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
That sounds like you got no, no, they'll eat out.
So the I'm not sure I understand this because I thought,
to me, this sounds significant regarding MPOs. So you have
two NIH researchers we were accused of attempting to smuggle
vials of deactivated my pox virus into the country. All right,
(02:42):
so they're citizens of the Netherlands. I love this. In Cameroon,
yeah uh. And they were working for an NAH clinic
and out in Montana. So the thing that got me
about this is and maybe maybe this is not as
bad as it sounds, but found one hundred and thirteen
vials of this pathogen? Is this something we should be
(03:06):
worried about?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, we should be worried about it. This was obviously
of this case. We have even previous cases there. Essentially,
bioweapons are trying to be smuggled in I think China.
One of the developments we saw from both the United
States and China is that there have been improvements in
bioweapon technology that especially if you could put a virus
out let's say something let's says as contagious as COVID,
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but we're much more deadly. You could destroy a country,
so we should worry about it. They were coming from Cameroon.
I think the interesting thing is they're carrying this in
like like a black vial boxes. Yes, yeah, you know,
you can't even get water bottles on airplane, so I
don't know how they thought they were.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
There's two things to get me. First of all is
when you look at what they're facing in terms of penalties,
it's like.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Five years, yeah, which is it.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Seems like it's not enough.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And the second thing is what would you do with
the vials that could possibly be good?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well, I think what they would they would say this
is obviously not true because you'd have to get NIH approval,
is that, oh, we're gonna use this for research, because
we do research viruses. We do try to figure out
how they work. That's how we get vaccines and solutions
to them. But if you're if you're bringing it in
with that nim was, notice that's not what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I mean it's probably gonna wind up being a condiment
at the barbecue. Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
The other wordy is that you you bring these viruses
along and they transmute or they change, they evolve, And
we saw that with cold. We see it with other viruses.
We see this now in Texas with I believe a
new tapeworm virus on.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
That worm trench trench. Yeah, it's basically been a boom.
This is weird for Mexico where we import cattle to
rays and so we're gonna, I think, put a hot
atus on this. But the Mexicans have a different way,
even though they have like sixty cases and we only
have one.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, but it multiplies quickly.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Crew worm, it's called the screw very unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yes, super and that's going to raise food prices. I
think this has happened from South America. We had we
actually got rid of it in the United States over
about three decades, and then South America we started importing
food from there. We didn't we weren't careful.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, I mean, look, on the other hand, screw worm,
it's the force pornographic worm a double time. So this
thing really got me. It didn't surprise you as much.
So Guatemala is going to collaborate with the American government
on drug trafficking, and and you have this three country
area with Guatemala, Salvador and Honduras. So drug gangs have
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always been a problem there. I don't know about the
import export aspect of it, and you you do have
a lot of gang violence. But by the same token,
these three governments are very far right wing and facilitate
desk squads. So this is what got me. The Northern Triangle, Honduras,
L Salvador in Guatemala. Since twenty nineteen, two million people
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have left the country. Yeah, is there anybody left?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
There are people left, But you're right. In fact, this
actually goes back. If you remember at the end of
Obama's term when Trump was running for office, there was
a huge influx from Central America in the Triangle country.
So that's what and it was sort of thing drug
cartels and stuff. I think it's a success of L. Savagor.
Our Salvagors got a president. He basically threw all these
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guys in prison or killed them. There were mistakes and
people got picked up, people that maybe shouldn't have got
picked up, that picked up. There wasn't as much a
due process. But if you could parents the murder rate
of where it was to where it is now, which
is Al Salvador's now the safest country in all the
Western hemisphere, which would be insane years.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I would have to look at the data. I've been there,
and it's a gorgeous country. But the right wing militias
they weren't overlooking anybody. They took who they could. I mean,
when you say, you know, the entries are safest, safest
for who, I mean, you know, half the country.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's like, I think, just to put the argument aside,
is that the violence was so bad and no one
was doing anything realistically about how people don't say it
was the country was at like Detroit level murder levels.
That's that's not that's just you know, insanely high.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Do they have Detroit level auto distributorships? So what I'm
saying is that the irony is that the way they
reduce violence was violence. Yes, but there was no due process.
So you know, we'll see how it works out. I
was in Central America in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
And it was raw and and listen, that's why if
you look at the agreement the President of came out.
I was like, this is not the full scope of
what they're saying. We have constitutional limits, rasking for technology
help we control the information all that. You said that
right away. Because people are worried about the both previous
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abuses potential current abuses, but also they're worried about they
don't want the drug cartels in power. And if you
look at the places. I mean we're talking about the
World Cup in Mexico, the drug cartels basically gave kind
of like a statement saying that we're not going to
mess with the World Cup. It's like, well, that's like
a month and a half. You got to live with them,
you know, the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I think the problem is is that it's the evil
of two lessers. So there's got to be something better
than the drug hotels and you know, death squads, which unfortunate,
but all those countries rely on America for military support. Yea,
hopefully not fishing, because that'll be the first thing to
go with the fishing boat. So I got to ask
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you something and nobody. I don't know if people are
talking about as much as I think they should be.
There's a labor dispute at Hershey Park, that's right, so
it has the ability to I would imagine closed down
the park Hotel, Hershey Giant Center. This is interesting because
people don't know this. The history of unionization in her
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sheet was brutal, was brutal in the nineteen thirties. Are
a lot of opposition from farmers who were equipped with
weapons just to pound people. Oh wow, this one. I
don't think they're actually striking, but they may strike.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So they voted for essentially a potential strike. So the
authorization has gone through. It's essential maintenance operation workers, Hershey Park,
the hotel, Giant Center, it's the local six forty four
sixty four union. Yes. And then so they overwhelming and
rejected a labor contract. And it is exactly wages, healthcare costs,
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retirement benefits, and a lot of this is coming down.
We see this at the government level. Retirement benefits and
healthcare costs. Essentially those those two, all those are getting
pulled back because they essentially we over promised and then
underfunded and then or couldn't fund the level of promise
we had. And so a lot of private companies are
that are going to start rolling those backs. So it's
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gonna be I think what's gonna happen is they'll agree
to higher wages, but they'll they'll keep in the retirement
and healthcare benefit reduction. This is what I think is
gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Oh, let's see what happens. I mean, it's the sweetest
place on earth, and this is the right time to strike,
kind of like striking garbage workers in the summer. I'd
like to see what the replacement candies look like. I'm
gonna to give that the thought. So this is Eric Apstan.
I'm in with Millennial Brian. The show is Thunderdome. The
organization has rocked the capital and we're being produced by
Art Selby. So is it me or it seems like
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a lot of our sponsors or either gaming interests or
people that are deaf. So I guess if they went
to the casino, they wouldn't be distracted.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
To be locked in. Well, if you think about that's
where the kind of older people and then we're gaining.
We've talked at a ton about how it's going.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Ever you have this is what's wrong with America. And
in that commercial they didn't say anything bad, but the
death of America began when we create especialty beers that
tasted like fruit loops and hamburgers the way they were
supposed to be. They were supposed to be made with
like asphalt. So I mean, now there is it's like
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gourmet Hamburger is like, man, dude, it's a Hamburger. Beer
bear was supposed to burn when it went down. Man,
you know, anybody got four years old drinking beer smoking.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
We see, we see with bikes bicycling, you see no gears.
We got hill both ways. Now you got electric bikes.
They go like cars just like. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Brian and I were in Washington on Wednesday and we
were on the sidewalks and these electric bikes just came
cruising through. It's interesting to me that people believe that
just because that green man tells you to go and
they goes yellow and then it goes red, those are
not advisory. It means the cars can go through.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, but they don't. Yeah, but there's something weird about
with especially with a bicycle. A lot they believe they
had the right way all the time. It's like you're
dealing with two thousand pounds cars. I would be very careful.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, it's not like Europe that had a separate bike
lane built in. Yeah, and so this is we're gonna
have to retroactively find a way because apparently more people
would like to buy. It's like, and I get it,
but there appears to me to be certain times, like
when it's heavy rain or heavy snow or just snow
or ice, where it would be dangerous, well would be
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dangerous for anybody. So uh, and I'll get back to
you about the alternative chocolate there is I think such
thing as alternative. In fact, you know when you when
I was in Europe, they the Swiss and British chocolate
were highly touted.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Okay, they were good? Were they good or were they
just like they just wanted their own brands to Because
I've always found that like sometimes technology and food you
know in the United States is wife years a headery one.
You get these like British food, European food or other.
I mean it's just not your.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
European food is a little thick. Other foods are good.
I lived in London ate, well probably not healthy, you know,
I had a lot of palm and launch. You go
to the the excuse me, the bar of the tavern,
which used to close at like two thirty because of
the old World War One. Well, so you had fun. Yeah,
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so you go get something to eat. But yeah, I
mean the other country's fresh food. I think it's better food.
They also smoke, so it's a interesting deal. I had
a problem because the family I was staying with, who
I told I was a vegetarian, decided I.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Wasn't that that could be a tough Yeah, well.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
You know what I did. This is a true story.
I was so frustrated. They used to deliver milk and
bottles and they deliver them in the front of the house,
and so it was like, you know, ken Yvonne, I'm
paying money, but you know, you know, I don't want
to eat you know, fried roadkiller whatever. So peanut butter
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was is I don't know if it still is a luxury.
I said, all right, this is how we're gonna do
it American. So the two bottles came in the morning,
I drank and both ate all the peanut butter and
went to school, and uh, things decided to break down.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Really they're shocked, but they're probably just surprised that you
ate all the peanut butters. Yeah. You look, they don't
understand the portion sizes. But you know, it's just.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
They said to me on the way out, you know,
we've had our differences. Uh, he said, we have two
University of Virginia football players come in and stay with us,
and should I be worried I said, I'd be worried.
I said, man, they're gonna, they're gonna. You gotta get
them too, three stakes.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Their own refrigerator and their own refrigerator of food, like
you know what you're dealing with.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
The Yeah, I didn't ask, and things had broken down
to this point that I'm sure my response wasn't that
that that great? So I forgot to say, uh, get
well to Jeannie who's recovering from a heart attack. Uh.
And to Larry's buddy Jimmy. Uh, hopefully there's no tailspin,
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you know. And then also regards to Kathy and Nancy
and Steve. So these are the people that I pay
to go to lunch with me. Okay, so there's two
things that call my attention. So, Canadian travel to the
US is down forty two u and one I didn't
know this, Over third of all international visitors of Pennsylvania,
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more than half a million tourists were from Canada, which
seems so you then look at Leancaster. So Leancaster, for
the first time in five years, had a decrease in
tourism by one point seven percent. And so I guess
what I'm saying to you is the Canadians not coming.
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That's a significant economic impact. It's hard for me to
observe and say, hey, the Canadians aren't.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Here right well, they was being honest. They blend in cultury.
It's still American, it's you know, so it's not like
it's something you notice. I think. I mean this started
probably with the tariff war and then just kind of
fifty first state going back, and then there's you know,
a big push in Canada to be like, don't go
to the US stuff of that. I think it's gonna
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side though, because I mean, have you want stuff to
do and places to go When you're in Canada and
it gets cold, like cold cold, you're telling me you're
not gonna go to Florida. You tell me you're not
gonna go to something California. Tell me you're not gonna
go to Vegas. Like what's the equivalent of Vegas in Canada.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Oh, it's like Winnotago. No, I mean, coming to America.
Snowbirds in the Southwest and the South is likely not
to change unless I guess you look at like British Islands.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I heard that some people are they're choosing Mexico because
Mexico's cheaper, so you could essentially you could raise your
sort of income level as long as you get in
certain areas. And Mexico City is probably probably the most
underrated city in North America people that haven't been there
because a lot of the cartel nonsense you hear about.
It's right on the border. Mexico City is a huge
I think it's the biggest city in North America, a
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great metro system, very established suburbs. A lot of expats
go down there, so I could see that, But I
think long term, this is the same thing with trade,
like with the tariffs and stuff. You know, we're two intertwined.
Like eventually you're just gonna everyone's gonna cut a deal.
Because it's especially from Candida. I mean, the geography is geography.
There's only so much you can do. You can do
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some stuff, but you can't.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah. Look, Trump had mindless diplomatic gestures. There's no reason too,
you know, in flame Canada Mexico. Ironically, he and Nancy
Pelosi had negotiated a noon AFTA treaty. But for Canada
it's and it doesn't matter what the price of asses,
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because this is that I would assume everybody's flying somewhere.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, I mean that still effects because jeff fuel is
getting pushed off. I mean it still raised the prices.
I think one of the things we don't know about
Canada is Canada has we talked about the States a lot,
like different states, different promises, which have huge different regulations.
It's been a real hard So it's actually very difficult
to fly in Canada, very difficult. And so it's actually
easier just to fly in the United States or just
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to drive over. I mean, think about Buffalo, you think
about Vermont, you.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Think driven over. But I mean I guess that cancels
out hijacking a plane in Canada.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I mean, actually I'd be frowned upon it.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, so this is what was interesting. I really don't
know what defines a tourist, and so for Lancaster County,
they define tourists or visitors who have stayed in Lancaster
County or traveled more than fifty miles to get there.
So what's interesting, even though there was a decrease, there
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was an increase in the amount of revenue that brought in.
And Lancaster has a wonderful, vibrant tourism industry.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, unless you've been out there. It's very impressive. It's
probably you know, the third biggest city in the state
growing all the time.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Is a third, right, I don't think so, but I
mean I think it's Philly. Pittsburgh after that, I have
no idea. Probably eerie, but they're.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
A big city as a trip a baseball has music,
which is much bigger than.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
The music and art density for any other Pennsylvania city.
It's got F and M in the inside of the city.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Next to it in the local sports, there's something right
out there, I'm pretty sure with the sports complex, well
used to be.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I forget what the name of the sport sports complex
was before. Was it Clippinger. I think it was Clippinger
Stadium because the people that founded Clippinger had gone to
F and M. But it's a great stadium. It's built
inside of the city and it's open twelve months a
year there there it's available in the winter. Yeah, but
I mean it it's just a different feel having a
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ballpark in the city.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah. Anyone who's del with youth sports and seeing the
travel over the summer, I mean, that's just that drives
way more travel with people. I mean, people know about
sort of the Little League Courts series, but everything around that,
all the AU basketball, all those torments. If you can
get those tourments, people show up for every weekend. That's right. Yeah,
that was what I was trying to think.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
They have a lot going on. What people are still
coming for the Amish. You know, my relatives used to
come and take pictures of cows. Uh. You know a
lot of New Jersey, New York people you're just like going, dude,
why take a picture You're eating it? You know, always
kind of rude with the Amish, which is disappointing. But
they have something that very few cities have. They have
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Christian tourism. They have yes, yeah, I can't think of
the I don't know if art will remember, Uh, it'll
come to me, but it's a like they Yeah, they
have a that does Christian or Biblical tours and stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
The biblical stuff is real good. Uh and uh, sight
and sound. Outside of Strausburg. They also have rock lit.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Its yeah, which is basically we've got those tax credits
for the music. Taylor Swift went there to quorder music.
I mean, that's I don't know if you can figure that.
The question is always with tax credits is it worth
it is the juice worths the squeeze. Are you getting
what you're asked for? I mean a separate discussion.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I don't think they need.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
But yeah, well it's like, for example, the Chicago Bears
or leave in Chicago going to Indiana based entirely on
the tax credits and benefits. Yeah, it's going to happen,
and so they moved right. It's right over the border,
so it's not a crazy move, but.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Kind of like New York being in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Someone was yes, it's exactly what it's like. I think
someone brought up that Indiana built a huge casino there
and so in their mind they get the stadium out there.
Whatever they'll pay for it is worth it.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah. I don't know if Art knows, but I think
Pittsburgh their stadiums are close to a casino. It's great,
you know, yeah, having fun, drinking, probably too much, gambling
too much. It wasn't too much money. That last going
to say that. I loved what they set for the
Shippersburg casino, who's probably our best sponsor. The tagline is
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you'll get lucky in no time. Well, now is that
gaming or dating?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
That's that's why it's a great marketing campaign.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Eric apstarted in with Mani Obrian. We are Thunderdome. The
show has rocked the capitol. We're being produced by Art
Selby and when we come back, we'll talk about the
death of CBS. All right, Art, if you're out there,
you were saying that sit and sound that experience is
really pretty amazing.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Oh yeah, I've been there three times.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
It's so cool.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I mean they have all the animals trained to run
up and down the oul and how.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Did they do that? How do you have animals? I
mean somebody has to go to the bathroom sometimes.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Just a lot of repetition with treats probably and some
skilled trainers. And and you're sitting there in the crowd
and there's stuff going on like in every direction. And
I mean there's actors and things going on everywhere you look.
And it's so well done. It's so neat to see.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Well, it's a it's a brilliant production. But it's a
great family destination.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
There's so much to do in Lancaster. And you know,
I don't know that I've been there. I was thinking
it's out near Strasbourg. I could be wrong, but if
it is. Then it's near the Strasburg Railroad, which is
another tourist venue.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
It's yeah, I've been there three times. It's a it's
It's definitely a great place to go. There's no doubt
about it.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's gonna be a unique city because the Amish just
like the most you know, well known old school style
living and you have this kind of growing city inside
of it that's modernizing and stuff like that. It's gonna
be just.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
It's a problem for the Amish is you know, we're
running out of land there, so all the time have
moved to Juniata County or Snyder County. We have the
largest Amish population of any state. They own a lot
of land, but there's only so much land, and they
tend to reproduce at a healthy rate, super healthy rate. Yeah,
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so I would imagine they're just probably gonna need to
go and look where there's more land. A lot of
the Amish, you know, and they're very good carpenters find
work doing that. But it's you were talking about the
you know, bikes sharing the lane with a car and
the cars aren't you know, there's going to have to
be some kind of education for both automobile drivers and bicyclists,
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but Amish. You know there's a couple of horrific crashes
every year.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well yeah, because they're using like it's using horses on
a roads design.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
For Well, what I always wondered is could you get
in the Jewish religion, it's called a hallaja, like some
kind of uh for barons that you could put more
stuff on the buggy. Carry a black buggy at night,
frozen ice. Things aren't going to happen.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Oh yeah, I mean that. Yeah, that's gonna turn over once.
You're also relying on people to kind of know how
to deal with it on the road and be patient
about Some people are not. I remember I was watching
the show and the guy was talking about it's like,
you know, when they buy them, it's like buying a
house because it's not like a car where it goes out.
I So you buy essentially for your whole life. You
want to use the horse and buggy, so it's a
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different type of purchase.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
In the car, some of are pretty nice inside.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I've never been on well best some of the the
Amige do very well. I you know, I was that
we used to have the small business that would buy
those palettes. At the auctions, the Amish would win like
sixty percent of yees, so they have a huge financial backing. YEAD.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
We had to use furniture an antique store for ninety years,
so when we went to the auctions in Lancaster County,
they'd blow your doors. I mean, but look, uh, you
know they're there. I think for many of us that
you don't even notice. I mean, there's part of the
fabric of the community. But I would love to see
an Amish metal band.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
All these crossovers.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
No, no, there's going to be an amage band. And
did you ever see there's Kiss has a band where
there's a mimic of kiss a small person kiss.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Small person kiss. Wow. Yeah, you always got You're always
on the forefront of these new ideas.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Ten years from now they'll be looking bike ball in
the end. So the CBS, which used to be the pinnacle,
the high mark for journalism, has taken a number of
hits CBS. The station removes Stephen Colbert and replaced him
with Byron Allen, who I remember used to be a
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comic years ago. They lost market share immediately. They're not
going to recoup it. And I think what they're trying
to say and correct me if I'm wrong, is that
the humor is too woke?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
It's well, yeah, So Barry Weiss founded the Free Press
organization and this was in the Barry Weiss she used
to work in the New York Times. She was a writer,
and she's gonna be put in charge of she hasn't
put in charge of CBS. And she formed the Free Press,
which was kind of like an anti woke she I
guess Critical Thinking organization, which was after the George Ford
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and COVID were woke, I reached its peak. She formed
that as kind of like a counterbalance. And so she
got brought in when Larry Elson acquired CBS.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
And what how did he make all that oracle?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Oracle he owns works. So that's that's the health of
data analysis health. That's the big thing. He's doing health data.
So he's mapping genomes, trying to find essentially new Yeah,
the g l P one type stuff. He's not the
one that essentially makes the vaccines. He's just one that
gives out the data for all these companies, all these
companies of getting there the health data from him there.
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So he's also argued for hipA reform to get more
data from people to use a well.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Before we dwelling David Ellison and is the island he
owns in Hawaii. He bought Paramount I believe.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, bought Paramount was owned CBS.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
So it's clear that and Trump and else in her
close friends. Anybody can associate with anybody. The impact is
kind of stunning. CBS was the gold standard when it
came to news, and it was still making money. So
what I find out Brians forget the ideology. You're killing
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programs that are profitable.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But she came in just so yes, I hundred present
agree that. You know, yeah, well Colbert is different because
Colbert was losing money, but he had an orange market
share and having that type of program, you know, you
assume attracts other investors and stuff like that. But she
came in to essentially try to neutralize the news side.
(29:05):
So Allison thought it was too far left. He thought
it was it was too biased, and he wants Barry
Wise to come in and essentially center it. Essentially say,
you know, every left wing story you do, you have
to have a right wing story every time you do
a story with let's say certain perspective, you have to
give a right response. He's trying to sort of bring
it into I guess what he with CNN was supposed
(29:27):
to be in kind of the nineties, you know, went
away from that to more breaking news stuff like that.
But I mean that's what they want. And so when
Scott Pelley, who was the sixty minutes guy, criticized her
and saying to change sixteen minutes and she fired him,
I think that's that's what she's trying to make a
cultural change to weed switching from what is perceived left
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wing bias to a neutral.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I'm buying it, say Fox News, why doesn't Ellison buy that,
purge it and have a left wing perspective. It's not
gonna happen. I mean, these guys are going in with
an agenda. You have money, Uh, you have the ability
to do what you want. There's absolutely no way that
this will be an unbiased entity. And that'll be lost.
You know that. That's like a historic marker. I think
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what happens and everybody knows this. When you tell someone
not to watch something.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
They weren't watching them more. Yeah, once you do something
to take away I mean even though Stephen Colbert when
did his ratings go up a lot is when he
had that incident with Trump and they try to take
them on the same thing with Kimmel when he had
the incident with Trump and try to take them up
his opposition, and that hurts that, that benefits the rating.
It's just people. People don't like taboos being placed on them. Well,
I think it's I think it's kind of interesting because
(30:38):
you kind of have like the woke on the left
side that likes to do that and put kind of
taboos on certain things, try to cancel their things and
may become more popular, and they have kind of the
right that's doing maybe at the exact sient, but similar
we're trying to replace these taboos and they become more popular.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
This is this is this. So this is a fundamental axiom.
The media is only as liberal as its conservative ownership,
and the major papers have already been co opted. Washington
Post is owned by Bezos New York Times, so you're
not getting as much investigative journalism, although the New York
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Times is an excellent article I'm that guy running for
Senate in Maine, which we should hit. But look, this
is from a political point. It's a strategic bonanza because
people just don't read, you know, they're watching stuff. Yes,
and look what Fox News did is it's entertainment. So
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they're smart enough. I mean, it's the colors and the
blinking lights and yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
But they also got a market, which is they wanted
the right wing market. They said, we're gonna get the
right wing market when we have left wing people on
us for a debate, basically, and they got it, and
they they became what the most successful cable news show
because they understood the market that and so more organizations
have gone that way. I think as technologies advanced, the
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gatekeeping and sort of the centralization of the news has
gone away. And so now you have not just way
many different options as channels, but platforms like YouTube and
TikTok and all this stuff acts to get your news from.
So now you have all these so now you don't
have kind of like a essential narrative like the Tom
brokeall or like you know, kind of like the watch
(32:23):
the local news, watch the national news. Here's for now.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
That was part of the fifties sixty seventy nuclear family.
Even in the nineties, right dad came home, he read
the paper, smoked a pipe, tobacco pipe that is, and
you watch the news and then you watch the evenings.
We weren't aware of any bias. I'm not saying that
there wasn't. But you have a platform now where nobody
(32:49):
has a collective experience. Yes, unless you're watching a sporting event.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
That's one hundred percent right. Sporting events are one of
the only plays a place where you can get that.
I mean even TV shows. There used to be like
a Seinfeld, Like everyone watched this episode of Seinfeld and
they would talk about it. They still are now they now,
but now it's different. I think that the key is
how do you to dominate? Netflix dominates this by binge watching.
So they say, they release the series. It becomes super popular.
(33:15):
Everyone watched it, but not at the same time. It's
not like Tuesday at three. It's like good.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
But that's fair. I mean, look, the end of the day,
cultural cultural change is threatening to people who have lived
in one you know way or the other. You know.
I still know people very bright who won't do Internet,
and some people like me who's never driven an electric car.
Uh So technology just marches on, you know, whether you
(33:43):
are a willing participant or a victim in this case.
I don't think a victim, but I think the media
and Trump has been successful. The credibility left right center
is gone.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, there's yeah, no one, no one lies outside their bubble.
And then it becomes harder hard to get things done.
It's almost weird. We almost have like two countries where
one roots against the other when they're in power. Like
you know, you see people, you see right wing people
almost rooting for what's say, California to have bad things happen,
and you see left for people in the job left
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from people bad things that happened to like Florida and Texas.
So it's like, it's not like the nineties, eighties and
nineties where you had a collective kind of experience and
country where you had your disagreements, but you wanted a California.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
It was erouding then, I mean, I look, there's been
two Civil wars. This is the third. The first Civil
War was the American Revolution Loyalists against Patriot you know,
Civil War number two North versus South, and now we're
in Civil War number three.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It's but it's online. It's one.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
We'll have to check that out. So by the way,
shout out to Big Blue. We weren't trying to insinuate
that you were overtaken by any other legends. Yeah, yeah,
we would like to have you back. Hopefully your fourth
divorce is going well. So this is Eric Capstein and
Millennial Brian. We're in today hosting Thunderdome. We're from Rock
(35:08):
to Capital and we are being produced by Art Selby,
who's relaxed, just coming back from vacations. All right, we've
got about ten minutes. Want to close it out with
some phenomenally obnoxious political developments. So if you're not pissed
off already, we expect you to have a heart attack.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
At the end.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
But the first thing is, and I don't know if
people know this New Jersey as a congressman who's been
missing in action since like March fifth.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
It hasn't voted and won the primary.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Won the primary. Nobody was running against it. Yeah, which
is an issue because the Republicans it appears it's close
to being tied with the Demo.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Oh yeah, very close. It's all for grabs, this midsterms.
But we've seen this problem, you know, just multiple times now.
Diane Feinstein, yeh, she was, like people said months before
she died. She needs to leave conquss.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
She was. She was actually a really good planter, uh
in the Senate. You know, it was a you know,
house plan that's but the problem was her staff were
doing the work she was elected to do. In this case,
the guy ain't around. His dad was a famous politician
(36:24):
in New Jersey. Yeah, yeah, the governor of New Jersey.
But I think there's something going on that's more than
an illness.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Okay, there's a weird situation because you're trying to protect
sort of family privacy and stuff like that, but then
you can't you can't serve. I mean, there might just
be some baremen requirements. I think that we might have
to look at an age cap on legislas. I know
people are very concerned about that. But we keep seeing
with Biden at the end, like he you know, uh, McConnell,
(36:57):
a lot of these guys.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
McConnell lately he could Edgar Bergen was eventulo because McConnell
now could be his dummy. That's what he looks like,
you know, a human sized dummy. But I think the
problem is that people do get sick, regardless of what
their profession is, and they get ill and they need
f M l A. I get it. The one of
(37:19):
the antidotes would be is to deduct pro rate their
pay based on attendance.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
That that could work one hundred percent. Those has to
be like an independent sort of like listen, we're gonna
have a We're gonna have a by election. And I
know when the UK they do this, when someone like
basically can't serve and there's not like an election in
the near term, they'll just have they just say, right,
you're out because you're sick or whatever, We'll have a
by election so all the parties get to rerun election
(37:48):
that local county will re elect. That's what I think
I do because otherwise, you know, to have people just
say we'll wait to the midterms or wait. What it
was the Center that's six years, you're gonna wait.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Now you're not gonna wait. But the appointment usually comes
a senator comes from the governor of the state, if
you remember, that's what Boganovitch got in trouble for Obama left.
So they made a deal and he was in Chicago,
so he didn't really think it was a big deal.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Because I would not do that. I would just I'd
make that illegal I'd say you just run let another election,
just having an election.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
It's hard to take power from people that's already have it.
So we've got a bizarre two state election where we
have a really bad Republican and a really bad Democrat.
So in Texas, John Cronin was defeated by Ken Paxton,
who was the Attorney General of Texas, and he's been
(38:38):
involved in bribery, misuse of office, fallse statements, extramarital affair, the
whole kit kaboodle.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
And he almost got well, he did get impeached, and
then he got founded.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
He was a peach by the Texas legislature. Right, So
the Senate was behind Cronin, who's a moderate and very conventional,
and Paxson won by a lot and Trump at the
last minute said he has my endorsement. Yeah he won. No,
he's gonna run against a guy named James tell A
Rico who's going to be a pretty good opponent. I
(39:10):
don't know that he's ever going to get passed. Calling
God non binary.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
We had he had during say, like the peak woke movement.
He had statements that were in line with that that
you can't say if you want to win a Texas race. Now,
the question is during this midterm where I think it's
going to swing to the Democrats because of just historical tribes,
but also gas prices in the unpopularity of the around war.
Does he have a better shot. Yes, but I think
(39:37):
they're gonna use this. They're gonna go after.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Him for he he I've seen him. He's you know,
he's a competent politician and Republican strategist or a little
nervous because the last guy to run.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Oh better better work. Yeah, two and a half points,
that's right. Yeah, I listen, Texas is much closer than
people realize. I think the the last presidentialution it was
it wasn't that close. But yet you've had Senate races
where it's been close. H You've had governorships where it's
been close, and then you could argue those are state's issues,
(40:12):
like Ted Cruz is what was unpopular in Texas or
not as popular as most repopular.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah, he hasn't said a lot, even though Trump accused
his father of assassinating candidate.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
It's always the craziest thing when you go back, he'll
get these you know what it's.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Like they're calling the Democrat in this race, the first
transposition transgender senate candidate because he's gay.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
He's not gay, he's just he's just kind of like
a little weird.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
One of the taglines was you're not going to let
a gay cowboy represent Cowboy country, are you? And interesting
because I think you're right. You Also, the other issue
you have is that's an oil state and we've got
a lot of volatility with the oil. So Baxston is
not a great candidate. Then you go to Maine where
you have this guy who's first time politicians, Graham planteer.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Planter, oyster, farmer and former marine inventor.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, and he was doing so well that the other Democrat,
uh dropped out and that other Democrat was a governor.
So now he had a Nazi tattoo on his chest.
And I saw him interviewed yesterday and he said he
didn't know it was a Nazi tattoo. I said, but
I guess people don't look at the chest all the time.
(41:25):
I mean maybe the chest hair grew over it. But
then there's like there's been now a series of sexual
misconduct allegations.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, bad Voice is the girlfriend's abuse allegations. He also
has like his Internet history, you know of like read
a posts threatening you know, kind of kill people or
enjoying killing people or talking about civilian deaths. So it's
not it's not great. He's also got caught in just
like a few lies. Now politicians a lot all the time,
so that's not unique to him. But it's just I
(41:55):
think the worry is this is not gonna end like
the idea that you know, he's gonna have a use
allegations from one world.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
But what I find is interesting is this is that
the Democrats must call this guy out. It's similar to
when Democrats to the Republicans must call Trump out for
that TV video diferents Hollywood video. So you can't have
two standards. It's the same for feminists. It doesn't matter
(42:21):
for the Democrat or Republican. If the person is engaged
in sexually inappropriate behavior, you got to call them out.
Well here's the thing, but it doesn't always happen that way.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Well, it doesn't happen that way. And I saw a
segment of two segments. One was with James Carville and
one was with a woman named Abby Phillips, and she, uh,
she basically said, like are we just passed the character
part of politics that you know, the Bill if you
go to the modern or the Bill. Clinton and Ron
Reagan both had different scandals. People kind of ignored them,
(42:52):
but they were still prominent. Now, are these personal scandals
just don't matter? Trump planning all these guys. It's more
about the party of the ideology because one thing you
hear when you look at listen to the voter to
talk about it. They say, all right, well I wouldn't
date them, but you know I'm not. I don't want
to like Susan Collins. And so they're in that binary choice.
And so that's that's their argument, is that the character
(43:16):
for the ability to essentially vote for a different party
a different person based on character is not because we're
so polarized, is dimissions.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Look, the higher the character, the more attack. I mean,
you're they're gonna find something about you, no matter how
clean you are. So you need to articulate a platform
that resonates with people. I mean, people are very forgiving
of Trump, which is interesting because Democrats during the Clinton
era were just absolutely frustrated that he would throw it
(43:46):
all away.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Oh yeah, But that's my point though, is that like
in that era the Democrats to come out and be like,
you know, we don't support this at all this like now,
I don't think they would. If Bill Clinton got caught today,
it'd be like it's two week story, you know what
I mean to be like, all right whatever, and then
the same thing vice versa, like I don't think the
part I think the parties are electing our guys and
(44:08):
getting the policies we wanted implemented is so much more
important and the risk of losing is so much greater
and scary.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
It's they're just they don't compromise. It's a dirty word
for them. By the way, if Clinton had done then
now what he did then is I mean he would
need a ton of barrel of iagara. So okay, So
art on that note, how much time do we have left?
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Too much?
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Actually two minutes? I know you have about a minute
ten all right.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
So anything you want to update us on in your life.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
I'm just getting back from my assate Gallens camping. So
I heard him gorgeous, Oh beautiful, beautiful. Yeah, okay, you're
still you're still good. You got fifty seconds fifteen fifty
Go ahead, bry.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Well, enjoy the world up this summer. I think the
US will get to the round of sixteen and he's
gonna win it. I think it'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Couldn't care less
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