December 6, 2025 • 45 mins
ERIC EPSTEIN AND MILLENNIAL BRIAN TALK ABOUT CAPITALS OF THE WORLD, GOV. SHAPIRO, AND SEPTA.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, December sixth, twenty twenty five, tomorrow is Pearl
Harbor anniversary. Hopefully people are paying attention. Doesn't have the
same impact as it used to. I was invited to
an event on Monday, December eighth claiming that December eighth
was the.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Anniversary Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
So that was probably an event sponsored by the Bush Foundation.
So millennial anything right off the top? What's on your mind?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Brother?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
College football weekend? I would say, you know, I think
we got long term, although I'm excited for tonight's, especially
tonight's matchup, but I think you gotta figure out a
way to make the conference championship and the playoff matter more.
I think it's not of the regular season enough. I
think you might wish something to where either you expand
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it and you have like kind of automatic bids for
anyone who makes a big conference championship, or you have
kind of playing games where teams can play in because
I think this is a weird system where good teams
are getting left out and you feel like you can't
earn it on the field. You got to earn it
through a committee, which is a weird system.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
It is, by the way, I forgot to announce who
we are. America EPs done. I'm in with Millennial Brian.
We're from Rock to Capitol. The show is Thunderdome. We're
a good government, anti corruption group that was founded right
after the pay raise in the summer of two thousand
and five. We don't take sides, we take aim. We
really don't care what party you're from. We care who's
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throwing the party. So the reality is with college football,
I just want to stay on that for a minute,
because the whole the Penn State hurricane seems to be
simmering down.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
They hired a coach, Matt Campbell.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Matt Campbell from Iowa State. He went to the Big
twelve Championship a few years ago. He's beaten Iowa a
few times. That's a big deal because Iowa State was
kind of like the Rutgers, the Vanderbilt. They were just
constantly beat on and so he raised the level. The
question is is this the same kind of program builder
or James Franklin was not a big win guy and
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that when you lose out on all these other guys
you tried to get, you try to get the b
BYU coach, You try to get Laane Kiffin they try
to get the guy for Nebraska. I mean for all
the guys that tried to get basically they got a
bigger contract.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So yeah, I think the problem is that I believe
mister Franklin needed to be terminated. The timing wound up
benefiting a lot of people, maybe even mister Franklin as
you moved on. We'll see, but it almost looked desperate,
you know, towards the end, you know, and I just
thought that they what's the wrestling coach Calus Sanders? Would
(02:38):
I would have picked him as a football coach. I mean,
they would have been tough. I'll tell you what. Nobody
would have escaped.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
To tackle great tacklers.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
So I saw this thing. This is just a win
for the first part of the show. Also a question
for you and are what is more annoying A barking
dog that won't stop barking or were outrageously bright Christmas
lights A dog?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
A barking dog that won't stop barking.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
What do you think, art?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I kind of like both, Actually you like both. I
love dogs and I love Christmas lights.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, no, the thing with the dogs.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I just saw something in the Acquirer this morning that
people that live in close proximity to one another. You know,
what do you do when the dog continues to like
for hours?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I don't know what you do art I mean, because
the dog could be cold or suffering or whatnot.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
It depends on the time of day, maybe, Helena.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah that, well, the time of day is a big one. Well,
I guess we're gonna get no traction from that question.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Well, I was saying this. We have a dog that's
various saying, and we basically have to offer retreat. He
can stop marketing, come in. Otherwise I just he'll go out.
He'll bark deer, people and animate objects.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So just may think he's doing his job.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
He's a job, but he's very See.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
The answer to solving this was just like taping or
stapling on the doll's head.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And then you have, you know, a permanent Yeah, you
have a holiday holiday tree walking alliday tree.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So look, I saw this, and uh, I was really
surprised that Pennsylvania is the capital of so many things.
And look, I knew Philly would be cheese steak, you know,
I got that. Did you think that Pittsburgh would be
the zombie capital of the world?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
No, I guess it makes sense you think about you know,
these old steel mills, Uh, these steeler fans. I mean,
I guess when you think about it, but a lot
of these I would never guess.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
You know, but they're the zombie because Night of the
Living Dead was made in Pittsburgh, which I haven't seen
that Dawn of the Living Dead was made there, but
that's an interest. I hear what you're saying, where it
could be zombie because some of the corporations aren't there.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, and that's what I was thinking. Or just you know,
Pittsburgh's a weird place because it went from a very
industrial you know, steel steel, steel and that one way,
and now it's built around basically universities, biomedical kind of
healthcare research is a totally different place. So you have
kind of like a working class that kind of got
pushed out. Now you have more of a professional class
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that kind of came in. And then around that it's
just beautiful kind of rural areas.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, I mean they remade themselves, not so much uh
for this this is it still gets me Elk County,
which is the annual Chainsaw Covers Covers Rendezvous. So we
used to be the change another thing we lost. We
used to be the chainsaw capital. How about powdered metal capital.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Of the world.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yes, Saint Mary's Regions. Well, listen producing uh you know
carbon and gra graph flight manufacturer. We know we have
a graph fight nucre reactor. That's but battery production. We
do the batteries of the future of energy. You know,
if once someone figures out how to make batteries better
at storing energy, I mean, that fixes a lot of
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our problems. Gonna make energy much cheaper is going to
fix the whole What do you do when the sun
doesn't shine? As long as it's gonna fix outages? And
you know distribution costs.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
So what's a patterned metal? I mean, I'm not sure.
I quite understand that forty of it is made in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I'm pretty sure that's when they grind down the actual
the words, right, But I mean that's huge amounts of pressure.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I want to put some pressure on art. All right.
What is York known for?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I didn't I was kind of surprised by this, But
your county is the what capital.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Of the world?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Oh boy, I'm not even sure.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
When you hear it, it'll make sense. The snackfruit. A
lot of snackfruit in York.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I mean the ut snyders of Hanover Renova pretzels which
I haven't heard, Martin's potato chips.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I mean, just a ton of snack fruits. By the way, when.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You go down eighty three, that guy who is lifting
the weight of the bar bell, yeah they fixed that.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Oh really?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Did you? You got like rolled around you know circle?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah that stopped. Yeah. There used to be some really
good powerlifters that came out of there. I mean typically
you think of Ohio and Louis Simmons is kind of
like the king of powerlifting in America, but York produced
some real tough guys, big lifters.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I gotta tell you the truth. Who is the guy from.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Ohio Louis Simmons?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You never heard of them? I mean I just I
just tell him pay powerlifting listen.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Louis Simmons is the I would say, there the two
people that were like the modern of strength and conditioning
the way we we sort of know it. Besides, is
the Nebraska head coach when they were dominant in football,
and Louis Simmons. A lot of guys from a lot
of from the NFL to MLB, all these colleges their
strength and conditions they visit. Louis Simmons did not know
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that West Side Barbell in Ohio, York is one of
the big.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well your York Barboll. But who was the guy from
Nebraska that you know?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I forget his name, but that was when the Nebraska
just took off and then we were a lot. That
was before he was said that, you know, he should
be lifting weights. You should play your sport. That's how
you get stronger, because otherwise it'll slow you down. And
he's like, no, it's the exact ops. You gotta lift weights.
If you want to be fast, you gotta be strong.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Well it maybe too.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I don't know if Art was young enough to see this,
but in the comic books, York bar Bell had this
quitt essential commercial where there would be a guy on
a beach and a big guy would kick sand in
his face and yeah, and the antidote was your you
know barbells, lift some weights so the bully will go away.
So let me hit a couple of these before we
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get into some serious stuff. I can see Anthracite Capital
of the World. Yeah right, yes, mis granted, how about
this aspecially manufacturing capital of the world.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
And that's that's a great one to be known for us.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And I mean, all right, this one and we got
two more than we'll go to break. The Honeymoon Capital
of the world used to be the pocon.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Now it's not. I mean, I used to go to
a wrestling camp up there. It's a really nice cave.
They got some nice hotels, they got a nice amusement park.
It's nice. I don't think it should be the capital
of the world for honeymoon.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But they used to have these heart shaped bathtubs actual
especially we go over there.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And this one is significant. I don't know if it
is to this day, but Reading was the outlook capital
of the world. In the old days, when you wanted
to get a bargain on clothes, you went to Reading.
You didn't have all these outlet shops at any rate.
I'm Eric Epstein. I'm in with Millennial Brian. We're being
produced by Art Selby. The organization is Rocked.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
The capital.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
The show was Thunderdome. We'll be back in a moment
to talk about Josh Shapiro. I was I was wondering, Art,
do you think that. I don't know ac DC would
come into a benefit concert.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
All right, So we've got a couple observations here that
less lethal. That's advertising on our program, and you share, right,
what could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Listen, later in the show, we're going to talk about
toys that are dangerous for kids. These are toys for
I guess. Yeah. Listen, every year you know obviously like fireworks,
very fine. You hear about the stories of these accents.
What are these people thinking? It's like, well, you know, listen,
you throw back a few cold ones all of a sudden,
you know, the brain is not functioned as well, and
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you make some mistakes.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I think a lot of times the fuse goes. But yeah,
So the Purdue chicken thing is interesting. It's not a
criticism or Purdue, but you know, folks talk about raising
the standards. Yeah so that I guess that infers uh,
free range, yes chicken.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So how many chickens do.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You think before they get swattered and say, damn, thanks,
that was free range? You know it wasn't all cooped
up all those gears.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I feel better.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Well, yeah, I mean, if you see how factory farming works,
some of it is is real rough where the chickens
are basically stuffed as much as they can stack them.
They're they're filled in with like hormones and stuff to
make them as big as possible, and they can't move,
and so they just it's it's a real status, You're right.
At the end of the day, it's the same thing.
You know, they let them walk around to be nice
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when it's time to slaughter.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You never hear them talk about you know, range grown veal.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I mean, it's a baby animal and you're eating it,
you know, so at some point you just got to say,
come on, man, what are we doing here? I mean,
most of the farms that are corporate farms are pretty brutal,
you know, and you know, so it almost feels like,
you know, range fed is like we're gonna give you
style points before you know, we behead you.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And so I think the argument is that they're gonna
die anyway, they should have a nicer life. But almost
say this, if you got if you wanted to get
like animals that are treated better, you should probably shop
kind of your local farms or your local farmers market.
And then but you have to pay more. That's factory
far me you know, it's it's a more brutal, but
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they die anyway, and it's cheaper and people like that.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So that's why they're being bred, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I mean, it's not like, you know, every once in
a while, you know, I guess the chicken escapes and
you know, moves on out. So here's a serious question
before we get to mister Shapiro. Given that Venezuela was
precluded prevented from playing in the Little League World Series
for a little while.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I think I think they eventually got in.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, we got the World Series, we got the World
Cup next year. So will Canada or Denmark or Venezuela
be allowed in?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Well, the part of the Toro was in Canada, so
Canada's in. Denmark's gonna be let in, even though you
know Trump wants Greenland. Venezuela was interesting because I don't
think the soccer team is very good, but they're letting
way more teams in, so they probably have a better shot.
I still don't think they're gonna get in because Venezuela
is actually a baseball player's one of the only country
of South America that's base small.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
First, Venezuela and Nicaragua.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, and and right, but yes, so yeah, but I
think they're even more baseball first than the other countries
as far as.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Look, I do you remember if they're not even a
good narco terrorist country, because do you remember when Columbia
was leading the league in narco terrorism and bought and
bought football were good?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah? Oh yeah, not only were they good, that was
the only time when the club teams going out to
America were able to go to the World Cup or
the Club World Cup would be kind of the big
giants of Europe. Now that's changed because Europe's financially just
surpassed them, but that was the time when it was
close where they could keep their best players. And Columbia
at the time they won the Copoleridors, which is kind
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of the South America version. That's the one of the
only times they've won it, and they were then when
they went to the World Cup, they were supposed to
be able to compete with the big boys in Europe,
and they just fell on their face. And that's why
the guy got killed.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Well, the guy accidentally kicked the ball to the goal
and then they killed him. Which you know, look, man,
people have different ways of expressing they're disatisfaction with athletic performance.
So it's interesting Josh Shapiro, really without any public oversight,
has spent one point one million public dollars to secure
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his home, right, Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
And it's not the governor's mansion, it's his home. Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So three hundred and eleven for a new security system,
two hundred and ninety thousand for landscaping. You can use
my landscapers ten bucks for the whole year. So this
is I guess based on recommendations from the Pennsylvania State Police.
And I believe this case was taken to the Ethics
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Commission after the fact. The Ethics Commission usually doesn't rule
aggressively on political issues, but you're supposedly there's a prohibition
about public officials benefit from there from the government positions.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And look in October.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
You know, I think the Ethics Commission the rule that
it did not constitute a personal benefit. But you know,
I gotta tell you, I get the governor's match. I mean,
if you look at it now.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, this all Coe doctor for people who haven't been
close to the government. Listen, there was an assassination attempt,
and then obviously if that happens to your family, you
would understand should public dollars go to like private residency.
I think what they would argue is this is a
unique situation. Putical violence has increased. There's been you know,
assassin assassination attempts on both parties. This, I think is
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the problem is that this is a pattern of he
gets to takets to the super Bowl, he gets to
fly in private jets. You know, the groups that fund
them are pushing not like extravagant, but you know, are
paying for his vacations and his travels, and he's using
this as a platform run for president. I think the
problem is that we're always going to get is basically,
if you support a political party of okay, you kind
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of ignore their corruption or they're double dipping into public finance.
And if you don't, you want to go after him.
But the truth is easy to go after everyone if
you want to make it more.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well, the truth is, I mean the reason Shapiro communicates
so well to Trump supporters is his behavior mirrors Trump
in some ways. I mean, you know, Trump's getting a
huge president I think from guitar as an airplane, which
he's going to turn back into a public asset. Here
is a private asset. I doubt that Shapiro is going
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to dig up his yard and give the you know,
do it whatever they do. But part of the deal
in being a public servant is not enriching herself. I know,
I know we've gotten away with it and away from it.
And I know folks, uh, you know, are empathetic about
the governor's mansion, which, by the way, a lot of
private donations going into that as well.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
So then you have this book called one hundred in
seven Days where.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Kamala Harris sort of over runs over her presidential campaign
where she got to take over from Biden. What happened
And a part of that is when she wanted when
she talked about potentially making Josh Shapiro her vice presidential
candidate and her running mate, and that she was like,
he was, you know, he was measuring the drapes before
the you know, before everything was in there. You know,
he was looking for a career opportunity. And that kind
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of pushed her off, and Shapiro shot back at her
real aggressively and was like, basically.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
He said this is bs.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, yeah, but he was asking questions of Kama like
number of bedrooms, there might be in the vice president's house.
Can he move Pennsylvania Arden. It was pretty bizarre. And look,
I think now everybody we're is aware that Biden was diminished, right.
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I think Kamala could have done more, but couldn't have.
Shapiro also said, hey, uh, you.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Know, we're not.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I mean the guy that we're nominating for president is
just not able to carry out the duties.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Yeah, I think that Here's the thing. I think what
happened is the Democrats should have come out earlier and
been like Biden's gonna be a one term president. They
could have run a prime marriage. They have a more
kind of like legitimized candidate so that they can kind
of unite around. And then when it comes to vice person,
I think you should choose vice personal can basically two things.
One is does this person help me get elected? And
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is he competent? Be honest?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
You know?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
For jd Vance, I thought he would be a bad
candidate for Trump on the first thing, because I thought
anyone is supporting Trump. Jd Vance doesn't bring them in,
you know, there's not's not an addition. But then but
when he when he went into the debate, he did
very well, and that showed whereas Tim Watts, I guess
we're supposed to bring people into commos camp, but in
the debate he did poorly.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, so in the debate it would have been a
much different story of Shapiro.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
It was debating vance.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I mean, it's well known that Shapiro uses Obama's speech coach.
And the thing that was surprising from the article is
the number of Pennsylvania Democrats who were going after that
disliked him intensely. I was actually dinner with Bill Deuis
and he brought my attention to the Atlantic article and
said there's a number of Democrats that thinks he's too ambitious.
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One of the things the things that Shapiro said that
was really interesting. He says, the national Democrats folded in
the federal shutdown while I stayed at the table. Well, basically,
he gave his budget address in February and he didn't
really have any dialogue until June. And to say that
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he stayed at the table, I guess it's a dining
room table.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Well, here's the thing, is what he's trying to do
is he's trying to mold his message to what he
thinks democrats and the public need to hear. So when
there was a push on the Democratic Party of hey,
when we're in government, we don't accomplish enough. You know,
we talk about these programs to talk about all this
great stuff. What did Shapiro bring up when that sort
of conversation was happening. He's like the bridge, a bridge collapsed.
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I built it in six days and we have taken
two years. I'm a guy who gets stuffed done. When
it was brought up that, you know, Democrats can't get
anything done when the Republicans are in the legislature, he said, hey,
I'm the only Democratic governor that has Republicans in the
legislator and we got we get stuffed on. Here's where
I got education. Well, so this is he's warning his
argument to run for president. It's one of the reasons
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why the Democrats don't like in Pennsylvania is that he's
looking at this as a stepping stone rather than a
governing opportunity.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Let me just find tune your responses quickly. His first year,
the budget was late, and he backpedaled on a commitment
of vouchers to the Republicans. Right, you know, the other
issues you're right, all right, So you got a bridge
built in nine days.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
That that's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
But if you can get a bridge built in nine days,
you know what does it take nine months to get
a budget done?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Right? You know? So let's look at this. He came
out with his jacket. He look cool. You know.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I was actually one of the press conference. I was
expecting him to have like a backup band, like boys
to men, you know, them doing splits and this whole. Yeah,
but the thing is great, you got the bridge done
in nine days. The rest of the state is in
horrible condition with the bridges and roads.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So if you want to get something done, it's right
in front of you what you can do. Look, we're
on a break.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
When we come back, and I know this is going
to sound unexciting but necessary, we're going to discuss septem
So this is Eric ip Steinaman with Mannial Brian. We're
being produced by Art Selby, and we're from Rock to Capitol.
The show's Thunderdome Back in a minute. Boy, I hope
we didn't do anything to po the Shippensburg Casino. They've
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been religious sponsors, so.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
One thought, let me know what you think all right.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
You know Ilgrin Fritz, who advertises on our show talks
about retiring soon, you know, and how to So what
I again, I'm just being technical here. Retiring normally would
indicate that you had a plan in place before it
was coming soon, right, So, I mean, he's got a
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really interesting and important niche industry, it seems to me.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And I don't know you would know. There's more than
I do. Are there a lot of Americans that realize
they're behind the eight ball.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
There's tons of people for retirement because and that end
up relying on Social Security checks and having expenses beyond
what they can retire. Basically, you want to get your
investment portfolio at a point, but when it's time to retire,
that what it pays out on sort of like an
average annual basis to you as a dividend. I'll say
the six or seven percent along with your Social Security
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checks and whatever covers all your costs. Your house will
be paid off by that point, and it covers the
costs that you want to if. Obviously you want to
dip in every now and then for vacation and stuff
like that to have fun. But that's the idea most
people don't have that when they get their four oh
one K to the end, they are expenses of what
they want to live on. But what is a four
one K for one K is like a retirement count
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along with other things. That is for of just an
investment that you put in year after year. It's not
tax and you try to build it up to where
the average payouts. So what that means is the average
you weren't on that investment along with your check from
Social Security or any income is coming in, pays for
your yearly expenses so that you don't have to work. Then,
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so let's say your yearly expenses are thirty thousand dollars
because your house is paid off and stuff, but you
still got groceries, gas, or you want to go on vacation.
That means that you want your four to one K
and your social Security check to pay out at least
thirty thousand dollars on average basis if you assume let's
say seven percent return or you know that that's what
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you're looking for as far as that, but.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
That I appreciate, mister Ilgenfritz, you know, raising the issue
and other people's What I've witnessed now is I've had
to take care of relatives who are older. Unless you
have longtime health insurance best intentions, whether it's an IRA
or four to oh one kay, together with social Security,
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is not going to allow you, once you remove from
your house to live in a similar quality of life.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I yes, So I think that's why. The other thing
is people have and you know best, my dad would
know more about this, but they have trusts and they
have family accounts because if you if you don't have
certain protections, what happens is when you move into an
old home, basically Medicare and Medicaid, social Security, they'll common
they'll drain you of those accounts first before they pick
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up the tab for your long term care. So your
long term care plan has someone be mixed with your
financial four oh one K plan and kind of have
an idea of like how you can keep these asks
that's a family otherwise you'll get trained of them.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Well, my mom took out long term health insurance. She
knew nothing about investing, but she had a great policy
and then that company went bankrupt, and so you know,
just caution people, be mindful that you know, the end
of the life phase is difficult. It's also hard on
the family. So there's been a lot of discussion about
SEPTA and Brian. Brian sometimes attends the meetings remotely, and
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they're about to go on strike in addition to everything else.
But here's the problem. They have these what are known
as Silver Line or railcars, and they I think they
first came online in seventy three and they were supposed
to repair a bunch of them by the end of
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this week.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
It didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
They had some repair, some not and they're releasing cars
from Maryland. So in addition to the administrative issues they have,
they've got these cars. Apparently they it's the rail industry
that a train bombader, a train manufacturer said. The people
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in the industry are amazed they have lasted this long.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
So here here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You have a transportation authority that's under siege operating uh.
And you may want to describe this to people with
vehicles that are I mean you're talking over forty years old.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, and twenty years out of maintenance. So this is
like delayed maintenance on SERAG.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I'm compared to wait, no, I'm sorry, it's like sixty
But are they sixty years seventy.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Three, seventy three to twenty five. So yeah, so it's
fifty Yeah, so fifty to fifty years. Yeah, a long time,
fifty years old, but twenty years out of delayed maintenance.
This is once it is. We talk about this all
the time. You're in the worst situations where you know,
a budgetary problem because the coming in is not as
expensive the money coming out. You have labor issues where
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people are going on strike, you have safety issues and
they say attendance issues where post COVID people just don't
aren't taking the products. And now you have capital improvements
which you put off, put off for years, which are
now going to come on top of the budget. And
so you're looking at, you know, a transportation authority that
has you know, it's basically just you know, in the
quick stand that every that they're just drowning and drowning.
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It only gets worse. Because here's the great thing about
delayed maintenances, like not changing the way on your car,
It's only going to get worse. So if you're saying
I won't do it this week, I won't do it
this week, and then you know you're six months later,
a year later, that car is going to get have
worse problems or break down even worse.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
So the delayed maintenance, that's poor planning. Maybe that may
be due to money, but this is one of the
sixth largest active passenger rail cars. And then when you
toss on the delayed maintenance or no maintenance, I don't know.
With the fact they got money in the budget, it
was you know, a once only transfer funds, they got
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another gob so I think they got like four hundred,
four hundred and fifty million, but it's not I mean
Dependsiway Turnpike Commission no longer sub Yes, so there used
to be like fifty million a year the turnpike through
the Department of Transport. They pay the Department of Transportation
that would then reimburse public transportation.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
That's not happening.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
And it's not just SEPTA, it's public transportation throughout the state.
And so we've got to move beyond this urban rural feud.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, because SEPTA also transports Philadelphia City school students.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah, and listen, it's gonna make you know, Philadelphia traffic,
which is already you know, horrible, even worse. But I
think the problem is that when you get into this hole,
is that it's so hard to get out because you
don't have the revenue to get out or the revenue
to make adjustments, and all these costs just keep delaying
and delaying, delaying and building and building. The one thing
we talked and we talked about this before, they tried
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to electric, uh make electric payment options or something, which
failed completely. So now you have maintenance that's not directly
correlated to like driving and making the actual transportation better,
and so you're they're diverting money away and then that
fails completely fails. They try to build new lines, those failed.
They tried to have new times to pick people up.
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Those are people getting left to So every time they
try to add something new on the service, they're not
even doing their core service right and they fail there.
So I think we have to do is we have
to scale back to the basemins. People not paying fairs, yes,
well yes, people wouldn't pay fairs. They had In fact,
they had it both ways, so they had people when
they made the electronic payment device, they had people with
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money and cards that were prepaid that it wouldn't register
or wilde on. So they had people that were willing
to pay, they couldn't pay and then because of that,
you had people that would fake or pretend to pay
and they say, oh, the machine's not working, we'll just
get let off. So you had the worst the worst
of both world, people not paying and people that wanted
to pay that couldn't. It was just it's it's almost
impressive where it's it's I call it the uh the
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twelve year old coach and the football team, where it's like,
how much worse could it get if we just put
a twelve year old?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
But the problem is to do the maintenance, you basically
have to cut off flow to certain transportation sites.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
You're not going to do it to the sports sites. Yeah,
I mean that that would be a riot.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So I don't know when you would have the time
to do it. I don't know why we're as bad
as we are there. I know there's other Pittsburgh and
I'm sure Harrisburg, Lancaster, you're you know, with our transit
authorities are hurting, But.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
They also have ridership issues.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, I mean it's it's such a car oriented society
and in order to work in a lot of places,
it just doesn't work without a car.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yeah, that's right. I mean and we've we've got we
have suburbanized areas, so a car is just more convenient.
The other thing is that, you know, there's a kind
of a cost to public transport in the United States
is not other places. There's safety issues, there's kind of
convenience and just is it going to be on time
or reliability issues where people would rather take a car.
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There's also other issues where the United States is just
more independent and likes the ideas of cars and individualism
than other countries. But in other countries there's less safety issues,
very consistent reliability. So if you're on the let's say
the Tokyo Metro, it's just it's almost it's always on time.
There's no safety problems, it's just consistent.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I think the problem with that comparison, the same with Europe,
is that the population centers live near the rail line,
that's right, and people just aren't used to wait, you know,
they just they just want to get up, They just
want to go.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I don't think I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I mean, you have some like bart in San Francisco
and DC, even Boston has some very efficient, very good,
very updated systems, but I think part of its behavioral
people just want to get in their car.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
And plus is also post COVID where we had this
kind of did just sized world and we're now less
people are coming into work every day, a disadvantage to have,
like transportation costs, and that's going to hurt the public
transit the most because you need they need people coming in.
It's similar to a city budget where if you're if
you're relying on people coming in the city every day
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and all of a sudden half of them work from home,
that completely changes how you.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah, you can you can see it's Hammer and Harrisburg
where they're not bringing in the parking revenue.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
And it's the real estate industry which is not renting
or releasing as much. These are all post COVID side effects.
But I would just comment, and I've heard this before,
the public transit is the most segregated form of transportation.
It's usually a lower income and uh way of getting around.
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And look, you got to give up people credit who
take public transport. I don't know if segregated the right
war as much as economically segregated. They don't have resources,
So I don't know how you get someone to get
a resource who doesn't have a resource because having an
automobile is expensive besides paying for it, you got gas
maintenance insurance. Right, you know it's not happening. I'm sure
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I could come up with some novel way to uh.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
To deal with this is that for some buggy, we
gotta go to Lancaster.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
No I had this.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I don't know if I share it with you on art.
I could cure a lot of societal problems. You know,
the rickshaw, homeless people do the rickshaw and the idea.
I know there could be some civil liberty issues, but
you know you got to think, you know, ahead of
the current r Anyway, Eric, i' s doneing with Millennial Brian.
We're being produced by Art Selby. Our organization is Rocked
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the Capital. Please check out the website. Rebecca James did
a terrific job and Art Selby is producing. We'll be
back for our last segment. So I mean you may
want to talk about this, Brian. Having a of your
old run professional team is not different than what happened.
(34:05):
What was it New Haven, Connecticut? Where that guy whose
dad was all moffed up bottom a hockey team.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Oh that's right, called the Trashers.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yes, oh my goodness. This is this is way back.
This is They tried to sign Gretzky, They tried to
sign a lot of these old points.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
And they signed his brother.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yes, you wren't talking about fall Safranca. It's like that
Michael Jordan commercial. It's like just a random white guy
who's named Michael Jordan. Everyone's like thinking they're gonna beat
the real Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
They all this kid put together a team ye world
wrestling dudes, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
In other countries is because soccer is the most corrupt
sport in the world. And I know a little bit
about but other countries. In China, a guy bought a
soccer team and put his son on. His son what
you could tell was not up to the standard. All man,
it looked bad. There was a Latin America team that
put a streamer on try he tried to play.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Look what's the streamer?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
A streamers someone who like, uh, plays video games and
streams them live. Okay, there's like a chat and it
kind of interacts. It was Argentina wild stuff. It's it's soccer.
A lot of soccer. You have like the professional top leaves,
but you have like all these weird leagues and all
these second divisions, and so they put they put like
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so it's like minor league baseball, except without the standards,
which is.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I don't know if you ever saw both versions of
The Bad News Piers, But on the second version, Billy
Bob Thornton's a manager and he tells the paraplegic kid
to play right field, and he just looks at him
and said, you know, like I'm paraplegic, and but you know,
everybody should get an opportunity that you know, that's probably.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
The end good opportunity that's really pushed the participation.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
So these I used to do this when Bob Jurgen
was alive.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
The ten most unsafe Christmas toys every year, so I thought,
why don't we just amp it up, have the ten
worst ever ever. So these are not in any particular order.
I just want to tell you this is the first.
One's my favorite. It's the Austin Magic Pistol. It was
made in the nineteen fifties and the same company brought
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you Atomic Energy lab kits Okay, So they used magic
crystals of calcium carbide to fire ping pong balls that went.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Up to forty hour.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
It's actually an explosion in the gu I think.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
This sounds like one of your ideas, right, how do
you make sports more interesting? It's like you'll put spikes
in the football. It's like let's fire ping pong balls.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
All right, So the first chemistry sets for kids and
now chemistry sets go back actually into the eighteen hundreds
in all of us. I know, I almost burnt down
my house with I mean, and I devised and I
should have got it patent mobal flamethrower.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Is that is that?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, your time way ahead of my time, way ahead
of my time. So apparently there were chemistry tests that
had ingredients and pesticides as well as chemicals now used
in bombs.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, uranium dust and sodium cyanide obviously great for kids
under twelve.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Sodium cyanide, So you were used it. I may have
had a kid like that.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
You used it to clean off gold. You know it's
separated and that I mean the half life. I think
it was uranium two thirty five. It has a half
life of like seven hundred million.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Years, just in case, you know, it may stay with
the kids.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I think the worst one in terms of safety. This
may be before art were the clackers. You know, just
if you imagine, you know, David going up against.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Goliath, is that.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, these were two balls, glass balls. We used to
go to them all and people would be clacking, hitting
them back, and I mean.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
They were a weapon.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Oh yeah, throwing kids, you know, hit them in the eye.
Kids with numb chucks without any skill.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
I mean back back then it didn't matter. Have at it, man,
free market sho the this one. I had creepy crawler. Yes,
so you had your little oven.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yeah you cook it. It was real, but it got
really hot. It was just not a fake oven.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Well.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I mean then you had people like me who was like, yeah,
well the directions are suggestions.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
You know, you can put anything in there you want.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Really, I thought I tried jello because if you look
at the creepy crawlers when they.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Come out, yeah hard, I can see that hard and yellow.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yeah. But it was amazing what they gave kids as
a president.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Oh yeah, this is this is this is all the
great like before there standards, you know, kids ruying bites
without helmets. You gottat a risky you gotta it's building character,
childhood memory, right.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah, yeah, the bill Oh man, the bikes without helmets.
I mean, I I think in our neighborhood we would
have beat the kids up. Has run a helmet on them.
It's like, you know, Evil Canievel's a hero. Dude, you
should get the Nobel Prize.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
So this one I didn't know about. So it's a
cs I fingerprint analysts analysis. Kid, you get them for
your kids. I guess to crack a case. The manufacturer
was in China, and.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Uh they had carcisions, tremo light, asbestos, all the great
chemicals you wanted to hear.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
They had asbestos in the finger This was recently, man,
it didn't come off the line until two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Oh wow, okay.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
And then there's a Gilbert atomic energy lap. I don't
know if I had that, but.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Uranium two thirty eight. Yeah, So this is isn't is it?
You know they're just trying to build the best toys.
They want realistic stuff. This is the realistic stuff. There's
a frinter print. One is funny because you know if
you if you go to a house, you're like, oh,
there's a sbestos everywhere. The house is condemned normal will
buy it. It's gonna think they're bringing in there, like
bring it in, bring it in, put it in with it.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Well, I think, I mean, they're the obvious two.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
I didn't put them on there, but lawn darts, Okay,
It's like, really, how did you think that this was
gonna work out? You know, they set the record for
emergency room visits and every year. I'm not sure why,
but there's always I know why. There's a lot of
toys where pieces will break off.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, there used to be a problems with kids eating
them to a certain extent. I sometimes understand the manufacturer's
policy where yeah, some of these are crazy, but some
of them are like, well, you know what about these
kids being dumb? You know, no one's fixing then no
one want to say that.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
I'm not problem I those toys, and I had a
bunch of those where actually you could go off and
have fun for a while. I mean, the chemistry set
was great, and all you did, especially if you're a
young dude, you just mixed it just to see what
happened and then lit it, you know, and it could
be I don't know what the beneficial scientific research.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
May have been, but the fun research was the fun premium.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
They used to have ST's rockets.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
I don't know if they still have those, where you know,
kids would set off the little rockets.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
And I know you're talking about yeah, but I mean,
for the most.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Part when I was growing up, it was models putting
together models, which took like six years.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Oh yeah, and then it always had the one person
that would screw it up or hit it and bump
it and it ruined the whole model.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Well then you had the kids like me who once
they were done, you set it on fire because that
was the whole point was or that was kids used.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
To snort, snuff whatever it is. Glue, yeah, the glue
on it.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
So look there, that's not ten. There's others and we
can sharpen that list up. But the Austin Magic pistol,
I just love.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
That's crazy. It's like what do have. It's like we
can shoot big bomb balls forty an hour, not think
could go wrong?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
All right, So look, you got a couple of minutes left.
Art condolences on McDevitt. I was rooting for him. I
thought they they were okay until maybe middle of the
third quarter.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Just wasn't there. Night the d played well offense just
didn't convert in the red zone. And Roman Catholic was
a really good team.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Roman Catholic was very good. It was also very cold.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Yeah it was Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
So Notre Dame mark they get in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
I do think they get in. I really do. They're
they're playing as well as anybody. I think it'd be
a joke to not put them in.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Why would there be I mean, Brian keeps saying that
you know they're on the bubble. They what why would
they not get in?
Speaker 4 (42:49):
I don't I don't see how you could have Miami
behind Notre Dame for the last five weeks and then
you get to this week with both teams off and say,
oh now we're going to put Miami ahead of Notre Dame.
It makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Well here, here, here's the argument. The argument is they
both have the same record, strength and says are the same,
and we have in which we use for a tiebreaker
in every other sport had to have games. So even
though I think Nor Dame right now is better than Miami,
that's the argument. And b Yu, which is kind of
the buffer team, is gone because they lost to Texas tex.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
But but you can't discount the fact that Miami lost
the two unranked teams. You just can't throw that out
and ignore it.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
I don't think again.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
The other thing you gotta look at is BYU just
weren't they the ones who kept their coach who was
going to go to Penn State. Yeah, so they may
have been a bit distracted. But I think you know,
you look at Notre Dame. They played Miami away. You
know they could have beat Texas A and m at home. Yeah,
Miami's always liked that, you know. They you know, they
beat they punch out of their weight, and then they
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lose teams. They lose the teams they shouldn't. Right, who
else is on the bubble?
Speaker 3 (43:49):
I haven't been phoning Nor Dame Miami. I mean b
Yu's on the bubble. I think I think that they're
lost or they're they're off. I think it's a better
because you have you have some automat bids, so you
have one group of five team that's gonna get in.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
It's gonna be interesting to see the Duke and Virginia
game because the Virginia wins, they're in. If Duke wins
are they're technically they they're you know, a big conference winner,
but they shouldn't be in. So that's the questions like that,
But that's what you're getting tough.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
You know, with the championship game, somebody can become penalized
because the two best teams in that conference are playing right.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Well, this is all the point is that we got
to connect the championship games to the playoff and the
regular season. There's this thing where like Alabama can get
in the championship game and then they're gonna get punished.
To me, do this it makes sense. And not all
conference is critical. The SEC is deep. Now you know
those schools go through like murderers Row Texas, which I
think is out of the playoffs. We heard the coach
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bake the argument for him, he's like, hey, we played
we beat three top ten teams. That's yeah, you know that.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Look, it's we're not gonna settle it today. My final
question are Brian, who wins that Indiana Ohio State? I'm
going with Indiana, man. I'd like to see the upstarts
take it. Look, drive safely. It's a Christmas season, Please
don't drink and drive. We will be back in two
weeks for Rock the Capital and Thunderdome America, Epstein Shlom, y'all,
All right, December sixth, twenty twenty five, tomorrow is Pearl
Harbor anniversary. Hopefully people are paying attention. Doesn't have the
same impact as it used to. I was invited to
an event on Monday, December eighth claiming that December eighth
was the.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Anniversary Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
So that was probably an event sponsored by the Bush Foundation.
So millennial anything right off the top? What's on your mind?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Brother?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
College football weekend? I would say, you know, I think
we got long term, although I'm excited for tonight's, especially
tonight's matchup, but I think you gotta figure out a
way to make the conference championship and the playoff matter more.
I think it's not of the regular season enough. I
think you might wish something to where either you expand
(00:52):
it and you have like kind of automatic bids for
anyone who makes a big conference championship, or you have
kind of playing games where teams can play in because
I think this is a weird system where good teams
are getting left out and you feel like you can't
earn it on the field. You got to earn it
through a committee, which is a weird system.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
It is, by the way, I forgot to announce who
we are. America EPs done. I'm in with Millennial Brian.
We're from Rock to Capitol. The show is Thunderdome. We're
a good government, anti corruption group that was founded right
after the pay raise in the summer of two thousand
and five. We don't take sides, we take aim. We
really don't care what party you're from. We care who's
(01:30):
throwing the party. So the reality is with college football,
I just want to stay on that for a minute,
because the whole the Penn State hurricane seems to be
simmering down.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
They hired a coach, Matt Campbell.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Matt Campbell from Iowa State. He went to the Big
twelve Championship a few years ago. He's beaten Iowa a
few times. That's a big deal because Iowa State was
kind of like the Rutgers, the Vanderbilt. They were just
constantly beat on and so he raised the level. The
question is is this the same kind of program builder
or James Franklin was not a big win guy and
(02:04):
that when you lose out on all these other guys
you tried to get, you try to get the b
BYU coach, You try to get Laane Kiffin they try
to get the guy for Nebraska. I mean for all
the guys that tried to get basically they got a
bigger contract.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So yeah, I think the problem is that I believe
mister Franklin needed to be terminated. The timing wound up
benefiting a lot of people, maybe even mister Franklin as
you moved on. We'll see, but it almost looked desperate,
you know, towards the end, you know, and I just
thought that they what's the wrestling coach Calus Sanders? Would
(02:38):
I would have picked him as a football coach. I mean,
they would have been tough. I'll tell you what. Nobody
would have escaped.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
To tackle great tacklers.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
So I saw this thing. This is just a win
for the first part of the show. Also a question
for you and are what is more annoying A barking
dog that won't stop barking or were outrageously bright Christmas
lights A dog?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
A barking dog that won't stop barking.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
What do you think, art?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I kind of like both, Actually you like both. I
love dogs and I love Christmas lights.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, no, the thing with the dogs.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I just saw something in the Acquirer this morning that
people that live in close proximity to one another. You know,
what do you do when the dog continues to like
for hours?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I don't know what you do art I mean, because
the dog could be cold or suffering or whatnot.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
It depends on the time of day, maybe, Helena.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah that, well, the time of day is a big one. Well,
I guess we're gonna get no traction from that question.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Well, I was saying this. We have a dog that's
various saying, and we basically have to offer retreat. He
can stop marketing, come in. Otherwise I just he'll go out.
He'll bark deer, people and animate objects.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So just may think he's doing his job.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
He's a job, but he's very See.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
The answer to solving this was just like taping or
stapling on the doll's head.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And then you have, you know, a permanent Yeah, you
have a holiday holiday tree walking alliday tree.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So look, I saw this, and uh, I was really
surprised that Pennsylvania is the capital of so many things.
And look, I knew Philly would be cheese steak, you know,
I got that. Did you think that Pittsburgh would be
the zombie capital of the world?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
No, I guess it makes sense you think about you know,
these old steel mills, Uh, these steeler fans. I mean,
I guess when you think about it, but a lot
of these I would never guess.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
You know, but they're the zombie because Night of the
Living Dead was made in Pittsburgh, which I haven't seen
that Dawn of the Living Dead was made there, but
that's an interest. I hear what you're saying, where it
could be zombie because some of the corporations aren't there.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, and that's what I was thinking. Or just you know,
Pittsburgh's a weird place because it went from a very
industrial you know, steel steel, steel and that one way,
and now it's built around basically universities, biomedical kind of
healthcare research is a totally different place. So you have
kind of like a working class that kind of got
pushed out. Now you have more of a professional class
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that kind of came in. And then around that it's
just beautiful kind of rural areas.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, I mean they remade themselves, not so much uh
for this this is it still gets me Elk County,
which is the annual Chainsaw Covers Covers Rendezvous. So we
used to be the change another thing we lost. We
used to be the chainsaw capital. How about powdered metal capital.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Of the world.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yes, Saint Mary's Regions. Well, listen producing uh you know
carbon and gra graph flight manufacturer. We know we have
a graph fight nucre reactor. That's but battery production. We
do the batteries of the future of energy. You know,
if once someone figures out how to make batteries better
at storing energy, I mean, that fixes a lot of
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our problems. Gonna make energy much cheaper is going to
fix the whole What do you do when the sun
doesn't shine? As long as it's gonna fix outages? And
you know distribution costs.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
So what's a patterned metal? I mean, I'm not sure.
I quite understand that forty of it is made in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I'm pretty sure that's when they grind down the actual
the words, right, But I mean that's huge amounts of pressure.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I want to put some pressure on art. All right.
What is York known for?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I didn't I was kind of surprised by this, But
your county is the what capital.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Of the world?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Oh boy, I'm not even sure.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
When you hear it, it'll make sense. The snackfruit. A
lot of snackfruit in York.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I mean the ut snyders of Hanover Renova pretzels which
I haven't heard, Martin's potato chips.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I mean, just a ton of snack fruits. By the way, when.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You go down eighty three, that guy who is lifting
the weight of the bar bell, yeah they fixed that.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Oh really?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Did you? You got like rolled around you know circle?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah that stopped. Yeah. There used to be some really
good powerlifters that came out of there. I mean typically
you think of Ohio and Louis Simmons is kind of
like the king of powerlifting in America, but York produced
some real tough guys, big lifters.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I gotta tell you the truth. Who is the guy from.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Ohio Louis Simmons?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You never heard of them? I mean I just I
just tell him pay powerlifting listen.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Louis Simmons is the I would say, there the two
people that were like the modern of strength and conditioning
the way we we sort of know it. Besides, is
the Nebraska head coach when they were dominant in football,
and Louis Simmons. A lot of guys from a lot
of from the NFL to MLB, all these colleges their
strength and conditions they visit. Louis Simmons did not know
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that West Side Barbell in Ohio, York is one of
the big.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well your York Barboll. But who was the guy from
Nebraska that you know?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I forget his name, but that was when the Nebraska
just took off and then we were a lot. That
was before he was said that, you know, he should
be lifting weights. You should play your sport. That's how
you get stronger, because otherwise it'll slow you down. And
he's like, no, it's the exact ops. You gotta lift weights.
If you want to be fast, you gotta be strong.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Well it maybe too.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I don't know if Art was young enough to see this,
but in the comic books, York bar Bell had this
quitt essential commercial where there would be a guy on
a beach and a big guy would kick sand in
his face and yeah, and the antidote was your you
know barbells, lift some weights so the bully will go away.
So let me hit a couple of these before we
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get into some serious stuff. I can see Anthracite Capital
of the World. Yeah right, yes, mis granted, how about
this aspecially manufacturing capital of the world.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
And that's that's a great one to be known for us.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And I mean, all right, this one and we got
two more than we'll go to break. The Honeymoon Capital
of the world used to be the pocon.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Now it's not. I mean, I used to go to
a wrestling camp up there. It's a really nice cave.
They got some nice hotels, they got a nice amusement park.
It's nice. I don't think it should be the capital
of the world for honeymoon.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But they used to have these heart shaped bathtubs actual
especially we go over there.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And this one is significant. I don't know if it
is to this day, but Reading was the outlook capital
of the world. In the old days, when you wanted
to get a bargain on clothes, you went to Reading.
You didn't have all these outlet shops at any rate.
I'm Eric Epstein. I'm in with Millennial Brian. We're being
produced by Art Selby. The organization is Rocked.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
The capital.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
The show was Thunderdome. We'll be back in a moment
to talk about Josh Shapiro. I was I was wondering, Art,
do you think that. I don't know ac DC would
come into a benefit concert.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
All right, So we've got a couple observations here that
less lethal. That's advertising on our program, and you share, right,
what could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Listen, later in the show, we're going to talk about
toys that are dangerous for kids. These are toys for
I guess. Yeah. Listen, every year you know obviously like fireworks,
very fine. You hear about the stories of these accents.
What are these people thinking? It's like, well, you know, listen,
you throw back a few cold ones all of a sudden,
you know, the brain is not functioned as well, and
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you make some mistakes.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I think a lot of times the fuse goes. But yeah,
So the Purdue chicken thing is interesting. It's not a
criticism or Purdue, but you know, folks talk about raising
the standards. Yeah so that I guess that infers uh,
free range, yes chicken.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So how many chickens do.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You think before they get swattered and say, damn, thanks,
that was free range? You know it wasn't all cooped
up all those gears.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I feel better.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Well, yeah, I mean, if you see how factory farming works,
some of it is is real rough where the chickens
are basically stuffed as much as they can stack them.
They're they're filled in with like hormones and stuff to
make them as big as possible, and they can't move,
and so they just it's it's a real status, You're right.
At the end of the day, it's the same thing.
You know, they let them walk around to be nice
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when it's time to slaughter.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You never hear them talk about you know, range grown veal.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I mean, it's a baby animal and you're eating it,
you know, so at some point you just got to say,
come on, man, what are we doing here? I mean,
most of the farms that are corporate farms are pretty brutal,
you know, and you know, so it almost feels like,
you know, range fed is like we're gonna give you
style points before you know, we behead you.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And so I think the argument is that they're gonna
die anyway, they should have a nicer life. But almost
say this, if you got if you wanted to get
like animals that are treated better, you should probably shop
kind of your local farms or your local farmers market.
And then but you have to pay more. That's factory
far me you know, it's it's a more brutal, but
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they die anyway, and it's cheaper and people like that.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So that's why they're being bred, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I mean, it's not like, you know, every once in
a while, you know, I guess the chicken escapes and
you know, moves on out. So here's a serious question
before we get to mister Shapiro. Given that Venezuela was
precluded prevented from playing in the Little League World Series
for a little while.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I think I think they eventually got in.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, we got the World Series, we got the World
Cup next year. So will Canada or Denmark or Venezuela
be allowed in?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Well, the part of the Toro was in Canada, so
Canada's in. Denmark's gonna be let in, even though you
know Trump wants Greenland. Venezuela was interesting because I don't
think the soccer team is very good, but they're letting
way more teams in, so they probably have a better shot.
I still don't think they're gonna get in because Venezuela
is actually a baseball player's one of the only country
of South America that's base small.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
First, Venezuela and Nicaragua.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, and and right, but yes, so yeah, but I
think they're even more baseball first than the other countries
as far as.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Look, I do you remember if they're not even a
good narco terrorist country, because do you remember when Columbia
was leading the league in narco terrorism and bought and
bought football were good?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah? Oh yeah, not only were they good, that was
the only time when the club teams going out to
America were able to go to the World Cup or
the Club World Cup would be kind of the big
giants of Europe. Now that's changed because Europe's financially just
surpassed them, but that was the time when it was
close where they could keep their best players. And Columbia
at the time they won the Copoleridors, which is kind
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of the South America version. That's the one of the
only times they've won it, and they were then when
they went to the World Cup, they were supposed to
be able to compete with the big boys in Europe,
and they just fell on their face. And that's why
the guy got killed.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Well, the guy accidentally kicked the ball to the goal
and then they killed him. Which you know, look, man,
people have different ways of expressing they're disatisfaction with athletic performance.
So it's interesting Josh Shapiro, really without any public oversight,
has spent one point one million public dollars to secure
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his home, right, Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
And it's not the governor's mansion, it's his home. Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So three hundred and eleven for a new security system,
two hundred and ninety thousand for landscaping. You can use
my landscapers ten bucks for the whole year. So this
is I guess based on recommendations from the Pennsylvania State Police.
And I believe this case was taken to the Ethics
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Commission after the fact. The Ethics Commission usually doesn't rule
aggressively on political issues, but you're supposedly there's a prohibition
about public officials benefit from there from the government positions.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And look in October.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
You know, I think the Ethics Commission the rule that
it did not constitute a personal benefit. But you know,
I gotta tell you, I get the governor's match. I mean,
if you look at it now.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, this all Coe doctor for people who haven't been
close to the government. Listen, there was an assassination attempt,
and then obviously if that happens to your family, you
would understand should public dollars go to like private residency.
I think what they would argue is this is a
unique situation. Putical violence has increased. There's been you know,
assassin assassination attempts on both parties. This, I think is
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the problem is that this is a pattern of he
gets to takets to the super Bowl, he gets to
fly in private jets. You know, the groups that fund
them are pushing not like extravagant, but you know, are
paying for his vacations and his travels, and he's using
this as a platform run for president. I think the
problem is that we're always going to get is basically,
if you support a political party of okay, you kind
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of ignore their corruption or they're double dipping into public finance.
And if you don't, you want to go after him.
But the truth is easy to go after everyone if
you want to make it more.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well, the truth is, I mean the reason Shapiro communicates
so well to Trump supporters is his behavior mirrors Trump
in some ways. I mean, you know, Trump's getting a
huge president I think from guitar as an airplane, which
he's going to turn back into a public asset. Here
is a private asset. I doubt that Shapiro is going
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to dig up his yard and give the you know,
do it whatever they do. But part of the deal
in being a public servant is not enriching herself. I know,
I know we've gotten away with it and away from it.
And I know folks, uh, you know, are empathetic about
the governor's mansion, which, by the way, a lot of
private donations going into that as well.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
So then you have this book called one hundred in
seven Days where.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Kamala Harris sort of over runs over her presidential campaign
where she got to take over from Biden. What happened
And a part of that is when she wanted when
she talked about potentially making Josh Shapiro her vice presidential
candidate and her running mate, and that she was like,
he was, you know, he was measuring the drapes before
the you know, before everything was in there. You know,
he was looking for a career opportunity. And that kind
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of pushed her off, and Shapiro shot back at her
real aggressively and was like, basically.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
He said this is bs.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, yeah, but he was asking questions of Kama like
number of bedrooms, there might be in the vice president's house.
Can he move Pennsylvania Arden. It was pretty bizarre. And look,
I think now everybody we're is aware that Biden was diminished, right.
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I think Kamala could have done more, but couldn't have.
Shapiro also said, hey, uh, you.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Know, we're not.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I mean the guy that we're nominating for president is
just not able to carry out the duties.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Yeah, I think that Here's the thing. I think what
happened is the Democrats should have come out earlier and
been like Biden's gonna be a one term president. They
could have run a prime marriage. They have a more
kind of like legitimized candidate so that they can kind
of unite around. And then when it comes to vice person,
I think you should choose vice personal can basically two things.
One is does this person help me get elected? And
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is he competent? Be honest?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
You know?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
For jd Vance, I thought he would be a bad
candidate for Trump on the first thing, because I thought
anyone is supporting Trump. Jd Vance doesn't bring them in,
you know, there's not's not an addition. But then but
when he when he went into the debate, he did
very well, and that showed whereas Tim Watts, I guess
we're supposed to bring people into commos camp, but in
the debate he did poorly.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, so in the debate it would have been a
much different story of Shapiro.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
It was debating vance.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I mean, it's well known that Shapiro uses Obama's speech coach.
And the thing that was surprising from the article is
the number of Pennsylvania Democrats who were going after that
disliked him intensely. I was actually dinner with Bill Deuis
and he brought my attention to the Atlantic article and
said there's a number of Democrats that thinks he's too ambitious.
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One of the things the things that Shapiro said that
was really interesting. He says, the national Democrats folded in
the federal shutdown while I stayed at the table. Well, basically,
he gave his budget address in February and he didn't
really have any dialogue until June. And to say that
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he stayed at the table, I guess it's a dining
room table.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Well, here's the thing, is what he's trying to do
is he's trying to mold his message to what he
thinks democrats and the public need to hear. So when
there was a push on the Democratic Party of hey,
when we're in government, we don't accomplish enough. You know,
we talk about these programs to talk about all this
great stuff. What did Shapiro bring up when that sort
of conversation was happening. He's like the bridge, a bridge collapsed.
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I built it in six days and we have taken
two years. I'm a guy who gets stuffed done. When
it was brought up that, you know, Democrats can't get
anything done when the Republicans are in the legislature, he said, hey,
I'm the only Democratic governor that has Republicans in the
legislator and we got we get stuffed on. Here's where
I got education. Well, so this is he's warning his
argument to run for president. It's one of the reasons
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why the Democrats don't like in Pennsylvania is that he's
looking at this as a stepping stone rather than a
governing opportunity.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Let me just find tune your responses quickly. His first year,
the budget was late, and he backpedaled on a commitment
of vouchers to the Republicans. Right, you know, the other
issues you're right, all right, So you got a bridge
built in nine days.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
That that's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
But if you can get a bridge built in nine days,
you know what does it take nine months to get
a budget done?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Right? You know? So let's look at this. He came
out with his jacket. He look cool. You know.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I was actually one of the press conference. I was
expecting him to have like a backup band, like boys
to men, you know, them doing splits and this whole. Yeah,
but the thing is great, you got the bridge done
in nine days. The rest of the state is in
horrible condition with the bridges and roads.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So if you want to get something done, it's right
in front of you what you can do. Look, we're
on a break.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
When we come back, and I know this is going
to sound unexciting but necessary, we're going to discuss septem
So this is Eric ip Steinaman with Mannial Brian. We're
being produced by Art Selby, and we're from Rock to Capitol.
The show's Thunderdome Back in a minute. Boy, I hope
we didn't do anything to po the Shippensburg Casino. They've
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been religious sponsors, so.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
One thought, let me know what you think all right.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
You know Ilgrin Fritz, who advertises on our show talks
about retiring soon, you know, and how to So what
I again, I'm just being technical here. Retiring normally would
indicate that you had a plan in place before it
was coming soon, right, So, I mean, he's got a
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really interesting and important niche industry, it seems to me.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And I don't know you would know. There's more than
I do. Are there a lot of Americans that realize
they're behind the eight ball.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
There's tons of people for retirement because and that end
up relying on Social Security checks and having expenses beyond
what they can retire. Basically, you want to get your
investment portfolio at a point, but when it's time to retire,
that what it pays out on sort of like an
average annual basis to you as a dividend. I'll say
the six or seven percent along with your Social Security
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checks and whatever covers all your costs. Your house will
be paid off by that point, and it covers the
costs that you want to if. Obviously you want to
dip in every now and then for vacation and stuff
like that to have fun. But that's the idea most
people don't have that when they get their four oh
one K to the end, they are expenses of what
they want to live on. But what is a four
one K for one K is like a retirement count
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along with other things. That is for of just an
investment that you put in year after year. It's not
tax and you try to build it up to where
the average payouts. So what that means is the average
you weren't on that investment along with your check from
Social Security or any income is coming in, pays for
your yearly expenses so that you don't have to work. Then,
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so let's say your yearly expenses are thirty thousand dollars
because your house is paid off and stuff, but you
still got groceries, gas, or you want to go on vacation.
That means that you want your four to one K
and your social Security check to pay out at least
thirty thousand dollars on average basis if you assume let's
say seven percent return or you know that that's what
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you're looking for as far as that, but.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
That I appreciate, mister Ilgenfritz, you know, raising the issue
and other people's What I've witnessed now is I've had
to take care of relatives who are older. Unless you
have longtime health insurance best intentions, whether it's an IRA
or four to oh one kay, together with social Security,
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is not going to allow you, once you remove from
your house to live in a similar quality of life.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I yes, So I think that's why. The other thing
is people have and you know best, my dad would
know more about this, but they have trusts and they
have family accounts because if you if you don't have
certain protections, what happens is when you move into an
old home, basically Medicare and Medicaid, social Security, they'll common
they'll drain you of those accounts first before they pick
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up the tab for your long term care. So your
long term care plan has someone be mixed with your
financial four oh one K plan and kind of have
an idea of like how you can keep these asks
that's a family otherwise you'll get trained of them.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Well, my mom took out long term health insurance. She
knew nothing about investing, but she had a great policy
and then that company went bankrupt, and so you know,
just caution people, be mindful that you know, the end
of the life phase is difficult. It's also hard on
the family. So there's been a lot of discussion about
SEPTA and Brian. Brian sometimes attends the meetings remotely, and
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they're about to go on strike in addition to everything else.
But here's the problem. They have these what are known
as Silver Line or railcars, and they I think they
first came online in seventy three and they were supposed
to repair a bunch of them by the end of
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this week.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
It didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
They had some repair, some not and they're releasing cars
from Maryland. So in addition to the administrative issues they have,
they've got these cars. Apparently they it's the rail industry
that a train bombader, a train manufacturer said. The people
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in the industry are amazed they have lasted this long.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
So here here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You have a transportation authority that's under siege operating uh.
And you may want to describe this to people with
vehicles that are I mean you're talking over forty years old.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, and twenty years out of maintenance. So this is
like delayed maintenance on SERAG.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I'm compared to wait, no, I'm sorry, it's like sixty
But are they sixty years seventy.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Three, seventy three to twenty five. So yeah, so it's
fifty Yeah, so fifty to fifty years. Yeah, a long time,
fifty years old, but twenty years out of delayed maintenance.
This is once it is. We talk about this all
the time. You're in the worst situations where you know,
a budgetary problem because the coming in is not as
expensive the money coming out. You have labor issues where
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people are going on strike, you have safety issues and
they say attendance issues where post COVID people just don't
aren't taking the products. And now you have capital improvements
which you put off, put off for years, which are
now going to come on top of the budget. And
so you're looking at, you know, a transportation authority that
has you know, it's basically just you know, in the
quick stand that every that they're just drowning and drowning.
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It only gets worse. Because here's the great thing about
delayed maintenances, like not changing the way on your car,
It's only going to get worse. So if you're saying
I won't do it this week, I won't do it
this week, and then you know you're six months later,
a year later, that car is going to get have
worse problems or break down even worse.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
So the delayed maintenance, that's poor planning. Maybe that may
be due to money, but this is one of the
sixth largest active passenger rail cars. And then when you
toss on the delayed maintenance or no maintenance, I don't know.
With the fact they got money in the budget, it
was you know, a once only transfer funds, they got
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another gob so I think they got like four hundred,
four hundred and fifty million, but it's not I mean
Dependsiway Turnpike Commission no longer sub Yes, so there used
to be like fifty million a year the turnpike through
the Department of Transport. They pay the Department of Transportation
that would then reimburse public transportation.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
That's not happening.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
And it's not just SEPTA, it's public transportation throughout the state.
And so we've got to move beyond this urban rural feud.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, because SEPTA also transports Philadelphia City school students.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah, and listen, it's gonna make you know, Philadelphia traffic,
which is already you know, horrible, even worse. But I
think the problem is that when you get into this hole,
is that it's so hard to get out because you
don't have the revenue to get out or the revenue
to make adjustments, and all these costs just keep delaying
and delaying, delaying and building and building. The one thing
we talked and we talked about this before, they tried
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to electric, uh make electric payment options or something, which
failed completely. So now you have maintenance that's not directly
correlated to like driving and making the actual transportation better,
and so you're they're diverting money away and then that
fails completely fails. They try to build new lines, those failed.
They tried to have new times to pick people up.
(29:23):
Those are people getting left to So every time they
try to add something new on the service, they're not
even doing their core service right and they fail there.
So I think we have to do is we have
to scale back to the basemins. People not paying fairs, yes,
well yes, people wouldn't pay fairs. They had In fact,
they had it both ways, so they had people when
they made the electronic payment device, they had people with
(29:45):
money and cards that were prepaid that it wouldn't register
or wilde on. So they had people that were willing
to pay, they couldn't pay and then because of that,
you had people that would fake or pretend to pay
and they say, oh, the machine's not working, we'll just
get let off. So you had the worst the worst
of both world, people not paying and people that wanted
to pay that couldn't. It was just it's it's almost
impressive where it's it's I call it the uh the
(30:08):
twelve year old coach and the football team, where it's like,
how much worse could it get if we just put
a twelve year old?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
But the problem is to do the maintenance, you basically
have to cut off flow to certain transportation sites.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
You're not going to do it to the sports sites. Yeah,
I mean that that would be a riot.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So I don't know when you would have the time
to do it. I don't know why we're as bad
as we are there. I know there's other Pittsburgh and
I'm sure Harrisburg, Lancaster, you're you know, with our transit
authorities are hurting, But.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
They also have ridership issues.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, I mean it's it's such a car oriented society
and in order to work in a lot of places,
it just doesn't work without a car.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yeah, that's right. I mean and we've we've got we
have suburbanized areas, so a car is just more convenient.
The other thing is that, you know, there's a kind
of a cost to public transport in the United States
is not other places. There's safety issues, there's kind of
convenience and just is it going to be on time
or reliability issues where people would rather take a car.
(31:09):
There's also other issues where the United States is just
more independent and likes the ideas of cars and individualism
than other countries. But in other countries there's less safety issues,
very consistent reliability. So if you're on the let's say
the Tokyo Metro, it's just it's almost it's always on time.
There's no safety problems, it's just consistent.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I think the problem with that comparison, the same with Europe,
is that the population centers live near the rail line,
that's right, and people just aren't used to wait, you know,
they just they just want to get up, They just
want to go.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I don't think I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I mean, you have some like bart in San Francisco
and DC, even Boston has some very efficient, very good,
very updated systems, but I think part of its behavioral
people just want to get in their car.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
And plus is also post COVID where we had this
kind of did just sized world and we're now less
people are coming into work every day, a disadvantage to have,
like transportation costs, and that's going to hurt the public
transit the most because you need they need people coming in.
It's similar to a city budget where if you're if
you're relying on people coming in the city every day
(32:17):
and all of a sudden half of them work from home,
that completely changes how you.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah, you can you can see it's Hammer and Harrisburg
where they're not bringing in the parking revenue.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
And it's the real estate industry which is not renting
or releasing as much. These are all post COVID side effects.
But I would just comment, and I've heard this before,
the public transit is the most segregated form of transportation.
It's usually a lower income and uh way of getting around.
(32:50):
And look, you got to give up people credit who
take public transport. I don't know if segregated the right
war as much as economically segregated. They don't have resources,
So I don't know how you get someone to get
a resource who doesn't have a resource because having an
automobile is expensive besides paying for it, you got gas
maintenance insurance. Right, you know it's not happening. I'm sure
(33:12):
I could come up with some novel way to uh.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
To deal with this is that for some buggy, we
gotta go to Lancaster.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
No I had this.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I don't know if I share it with you on art.
I could cure a lot of societal problems. You know,
the rickshaw, homeless people do the rickshaw and the idea.
I know there could be some civil liberty issues, but
you know you got to think, you know, ahead of
the current r Anyway, Eric, i' s doneing with Millennial Brian.
We're being produced by Art Selby. Our organization is Rocked
(33:44):
the Capital. Please check out the website. Rebecca James did
a terrific job and Art Selby is producing. We'll be
back for our last segment. So I mean you may
want to talk about this, Brian. Having a of your
old run professional team is not different than what happened.
(34:05):
What was it New Haven, Connecticut? Where that guy whose
dad was all moffed up bottom a hockey team.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Oh that's right, called the Trashers.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yes, oh my goodness. This is this is way back.
This is They tried to sign Gretzky, They tried to
sign a lot of these old points.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
And they signed his brother.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yes, you wren't talking about fall Safranca. It's like that
Michael Jordan commercial. It's like just a random white guy
who's named Michael Jordan. Everyone's like thinking they're gonna beat
the real Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
They all this kid put together a team ye world
wrestling dudes, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
In other countries is because soccer is the most corrupt
sport in the world. And I know a little bit
about but other countries. In China, a guy bought a
soccer team and put his son on. His son what
you could tell was not up to the standard. All man,
it looked bad. There was a Latin America team that
put a streamer on try he tried to play.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Look what's the streamer?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
A streamers someone who like, uh, plays video games and
streams them live. Okay, there's like a chat and it
kind of interacts. It was Argentina wild stuff. It's it's soccer.
A lot of soccer. You have like the professional top leaves,
but you have like all these weird leagues and all
these second divisions, and so they put they put like
(35:16):
so it's like minor league baseball, except without the standards,
which is.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I don't know if you ever saw both versions of
The Bad News Piers, But on the second version, Billy
Bob Thornton's a manager and he tells the paraplegic kid
to play right field, and he just looks at him
and said, you know, like I'm paraplegic, and but you know,
everybody should get an opportunity that you know, that's probably.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
The end good opportunity that's really pushed the participation.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
So these I used to do this when Bob Jurgen
was alive.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
The ten most unsafe Christmas toys every year, so I thought,
why don't we just amp it up, have the ten
worst ever ever. So these are not in any particular order.
I just want to tell you this is the first.
One's my favorite. It's the Austin Magic Pistol. It was
made in the nineteen fifties and the same company brought
(36:16):
you Atomic Energy lab kits Okay, So they used magic
crystals of calcium carbide to fire ping pong balls that went.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Up to forty hour.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
It's actually an explosion in the gu I think.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
This sounds like one of your ideas, right, how do
you make sports more interesting? It's like you'll put spikes
in the football. It's like let's fire ping pong balls.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
All right, So the first chemistry sets for kids and
now chemistry sets go back actually into the eighteen hundreds
in all of us. I know, I almost burnt down
my house with I mean, and I devised and I
should have got it patent mobal flamethrower.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Is that is that?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, your time way ahead of my time, way ahead
of my time. So apparently there were chemistry tests that
had ingredients and pesticides as well as chemicals now used
in bombs.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, uranium dust and sodium cyanide obviously great for kids
under twelve.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Sodium cyanide, So you were used it. I may have
had a kid like that.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
You used it to clean off gold. You know it's
separated and that I mean the half life. I think
it was uranium two thirty five. It has a half
life of like seven hundred million.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Years, just in case, you know, it may stay with
the kids.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I think the worst one in terms of safety. This
may be before art were the clackers. You know, just
if you imagine, you know, David going up against.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Goliath, is that.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, these were two balls, glass balls. We used to
go to them all and people would be clacking, hitting
them back, and I mean.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
They were a weapon.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Oh yeah, throwing kids, you know, hit them in the eye.
Kids with numb chucks without any skill.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
I mean back back then it didn't matter. Have at it, man,
free market sho the this one. I had creepy crawler. Yes,
so you had your little oven.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yeah you cook it. It was real, but it got
really hot. It was just not a fake oven.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Well.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I mean then you had people like me who was like, yeah,
well the directions are suggestions.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
You know, you can put anything in there you want.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Really, I thought I tried jello because if you look
at the creepy crawlers when they.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Come out, yeah hard, I can see that hard and yellow.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yeah. But it was amazing what they gave kids as
a president.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Oh yeah, this is this is this is all the
great like before there standards, you know, kids ruying bites
without helmets. You gottat a risky you gotta it's building character,
childhood memory, right.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah, yeah, the bill Oh man, the bikes without helmets.
I mean, I I think in our neighborhood we would
have beat the kids up. Has run a helmet on them.
It's like, you know, Evil Canievel's a hero. Dude, you
should get the Nobel Prize.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
So this one I didn't know about. So it's a
cs I fingerprint analysts analysis. Kid, you get them for
your kids. I guess to crack a case. The manufacturer
was in China, and.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Uh they had carcisions, tremo light, asbestos, all the great
chemicals you wanted to hear.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
They had asbestos in the finger This was recently, man,
it didn't come off the line until two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Oh wow, okay.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
And then there's a Gilbert atomic energy lap. I don't
know if I had that, but.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Uranium two thirty eight. Yeah, So this is isn't is it?
You know they're just trying to build the best toys.
They want realistic stuff. This is the realistic stuff. There's
a frinter print. One is funny because you know if
you if you go to a house, you're like, oh,
there's a sbestos everywhere. The house is condemned normal will
buy it. It's gonna think they're bringing in there, like
bring it in, bring it in, put it in with it.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Well, I think, I mean, they're the obvious two.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
I didn't put them on there, but lawn darts, Okay,
It's like, really, how did you think that this was
gonna work out? You know, they set the record for
emergency room visits and every year. I'm not sure why,
but there's always I know why. There's a lot of
toys where pieces will break off.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, there used to be a problems with kids eating
them to a certain extent. I sometimes understand the manufacturer's
policy where yeah, some of these are crazy, but some
of them are like, well, you know what about these
kids being dumb? You know, no one's fixing then no
one want to say that.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
I'm not problem I those toys, and I had a
bunch of those where actually you could go off and
have fun for a while. I mean, the chemistry set
was great, and all you did, especially if you're a
young dude, you just mixed it just to see what
happened and then lit it, you know, and it could
be I don't know what the beneficial scientific research.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
May have been, but the fun research was the fun premium.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
They used to have ST's rockets.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
I don't know if they still have those, where you know,
kids would set off the little rockets.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
And I know you're talking about yeah, but I mean,
for the most.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Part when I was growing up, it was models putting
together models, which took like six years.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Oh yeah, and then it always had the one person
that would screw it up or hit it and bump
it and it ruined the whole model.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Well then you had the kids like me who once
they were done, you set it on fire because that
was the whole point was or that was kids used.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
To snort, snuff whatever it is. Glue, yeah, the glue
on it.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
So look there, that's not ten. There's others and we
can sharpen that list up. But the Austin Magic pistol,
I just love.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
That's crazy. It's like what do have. It's like we
can shoot big bomb balls forty an hour, not think
could go wrong?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
All right, So look, you got a couple of minutes left.
Art condolences on McDevitt. I was rooting for him. I
thought they they were okay until maybe middle of the
third quarter.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Just wasn't there. Night the d played well offense just
didn't convert in the red zone. And Roman Catholic was
a really good team.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Roman Catholic was very good. It was also very cold.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Yeah it was Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
So Notre Dame mark they get in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
I do think they get in. I really do. They're
they're playing as well as anybody. I think it'd be
a joke to not put them in.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Why would there be I mean, Brian keeps saying that
you know they're on the bubble. They what why would
they not get in?
Speaker 4 (42:49):
I don't I don't see how you could have Miami
behind Notre Dame for the last five weeks and then
you get to this week with both teams off and say,
oh now we're going to put Miami ahead of Notre Dame.
It makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Well here, here, here's the argument. The argument is they
both have the same record, strength and says are the same,
and we have in which we use for a tiebreaker
in every other sport had to have games. So even
though I think Nor Dame right now is better than Miami,
that's the argument. And b Yu, which is kind of
the buffer team, is gone because they lost to Texas tex.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
But but you can't discount the fact that Miami lost
the two unranked teams. You just can't throw that out
and ignore it.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
I don't think again.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
The other thing you gotta look at is BYU just
weren't they the ones who kept their coach who was
going to go to Penn State. Yeah, so they may
have been a bit distracted. But I think you know,
you look at Notre Dame. They played Miami away. You
know they could have beat Texas A and m at home. Yeah,
Miami's always liked that, you know. They you know, they
beat they punch out of their weight, and then they
(43:45):
lose teams. They lose the teams they shouldn't. Right, who
else is on the bubble?
Speaker 3 (43:49):
I haven't been phoning Nor Dame Miami. I mean b
Yu's on the bubble. I think I think that they're
lost or they're they're off. I think it's a better
because you have you have some automat bids, so you
have one group of five team that's gonna get in.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
It's gonna be interesting to see the Duke and Virginia
game because the Virginia wins, they're in. If Duke wins
are they're technically they they're you know, a big conference winner,
but they shouldn't be in. So that's the questions like that,
But that's what you're getting tough.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
You know, with the championship game, somebody can become penalized
because the two best teams in that conference are playing right.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Well, this is all the point is that we got
to connect the championship games to the playoff and the
regular season. There's this thing where like Alabama can get
in the championship game and then they're gonna get punished.
To me, do this it makes sense. And not all
conference is critical. The SEC is deep. Now you know
those schools go through like murderers Row Texas, which I
think is out of the playoffs. We heard the coach
(44:46):
bake the argument for him, he's like, hey, we played
we beat three top ten teams. That's yeah, you know that.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Look, it's we're not gonna settle it today. My final
question are Brian, who wins that Indiana Ohio State? I'm
going with Indiana, man. I'd like to see the upstarts
take it. Look, drive safely. It's a Christmas season, Please
don't drink and drive. We will be back in two
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