March 11, 2026 • 47 mins
Jon does a deep dive into the latest issues in Minnesota, including Gov. Walz's plan for DHS and tax credits for donating money to MN schools. U.S. Senate candidate Adam Schwarze joins to discuss his platform and his perspective on the tactics in Operation Epic Fury.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Last hour, I had shared an editorial again, this was
a This was a really vapid, ridiculous attempt to push
back on the Save America Act and voter id disguised
as being a thoughtful piece. A former member of the
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House going back to ninety three. I guess Jerry Sikorski
wrote this Minnesota Reformer.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I had a friend of.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The show who posted I haven't been able to look
this up yet, but they said that Jerry was caught
up in the US House banking scandal in the nineties.
The guy bounced nearly seven hundred checks. He's a poster
boy for government fraud. If that's true, that's really really funny.
So thank you for that. I'll do a quick update
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on my own and get the details. Oh, welcome into
hour two twin City's new Talk AM eleven thirty and
one oh three five FM.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Can you take your talkbacks?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Brought to you by Lyndahl Realty All morning long, as
we dive into fraud, A roadmap to fraud laid out
by the US House of Representatives Oversight Committee. Governor Tim
Walls announces his plans to centralize and modernize DHS.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
No, it's a cover up. Plan. That's all this is. First.
I want to go back to the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Though, Hey John, I know it's not Freedom Friday yep,
but following up for Monday, and we were talking about
Ricardo Montlebond's lack of or having a fake chest.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
In con Yeah he didn't.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Well, I looked up Sigourney Weaver on Galausy Quest too,
and I can confirm my finding show that she also
had prosthetics.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, I was right about that.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
But the funny story.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
That I read about it is that she would throw
them around at the crew and other cast members members.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
A corner where I sho didn't handles on the Spaceship.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
There is a fantastic Galaxy Quest documentary on Amazon that
if you're a fan of that movie, of which I am,
people should definitely go and check that out.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
It's good stuff, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
A fifty three page staff report center the American Experiment
Bill Glohn Wrights last week on fraud in Minnesota. As
some have pointed out, if you follow fraud, the report
doesn't provide a lot of new information, but it does
contribute to things, specifically collecting the information all in one
place and also publishing the transcribed interviews with many of
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the top state administrators who presided over the scandals during
the past seven years. The report includes one hundred and
sixty six footnotes documenting its findings and conclusions. As with
the earlier Feeding Our Future in the June of twenty
twenty four report issued by the Office of Legislative Auditor
the OLA, the committee goes to great lengths to document
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who knew what when about fraud inside of the Walls administration.
The bottom line is is that they knew all along,
but just wouldn't do anything about it, despite having at
the time all the authority needed to act. The committee
notes that it's March fourth. Staff report is interim as
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the investigation continues, and let me jump ahead. We're not
going to get into Walls and his plan just yet,
but I do want to share this quick clip of
an interview that Governor Tim Walls did this week, which
speaks to exactly what Bill Golahn in this US House
of Representatives report lays out. It goes to great links
documenting who knew about what regarding fraud inside of the
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Walls and administration, and that they knew all along but
just wouldn't do anything. About it, and the Walls admits
as much in this interview, just.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Candidly, I'm a little disappointed that we would start with
that because these are conversations that were brought to me
before I was even elected governor and said, you're going
to have to do something with DHS. You don't have
to tackle DHS. It's antiquated computer systems. It's just in
decentralized control. So yeah, we're going to need legislative buy in.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
They knew and they let it happen.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Hey, Governor Jim Walls, then why didn't you do anything
about it?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Come on, I was told and I got in that.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
You know, I was worried about problems in DHS and
the outdated systems, and I just hadn't had a chance
to get to it yet. It's too busy practicing my
jazz hands. In the meantime, Republicans continue to try to
put into place with a bill to establish an independent
Office of Inspector General to fight the fraud. It's been
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the GOP's number one priority for over a year. This
is the exact same bill that was passed during the
DFL controlled Senate almost unanimously last year, and yet Representative
Nash brought the OIG bill back before his committee, Democrats
refused to let it advance.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Here's some of what Nash had to say during the
legislative session this week.
Speaker 8 (05:00):
I was going to take or bring House file or
Senate file eight fifty six as a minute before the committee.
Senate File eight fifty six.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Is the OIG bill.
Speaker 8 (05:09):
It has received testimony, it has received amendments, and we
are going to move it on to judiciary. That is
the referral members, and I will recognize you, Cheric Cleborne.
Thank We are running out of days. We are quickly
running out of days.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
So at the end of.
Speaker 8 (05:29):
This week, my CoA chair has posted her agenda. It
is not on that agenda. When we go to Tuesday
of next week. I'm happy to bring the bill back
again if we need to, but we're running.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Out of days.
Speaker 8 (05:43):
At the Thursday meeting of next week, we don't have
one because of the eed break. And if this bill
is truly as important as everyone says it is, it
is time to get it moving on to its next
next station. We're going to give you all an opera
ortunity to do that today and recognize that changes can
be made in the next committee stop.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
But if we do not move.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
It on today, we are effectively killing this thing off.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
And you know we've heard that it's.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
Safe, I believe safe and snugly here in state govern
and finance. But it is time to move this on
if we are truly interested in an Office of Inspector
General bill. The time is now. Waiting is not going
to help this process at all. Introducing new bills delays
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the process with referrals and different things moving the time
is now.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So so that's how very much I would like. That's
how it started.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I'll give you how it's going here in just a
second because Democrats blocked it again. I have other examples
of this later on in the show. But the DFL
right now has no interest at all doing anything of
substance during the legislative session.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
The only interest.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Their only agenda is to put forward talking points to
use against Republicans later this year, regardless of how ridiculous
it is. It's why they won't pass and put in
place an independent Office of Inspector General, even though they
signed off on it and all voted on it unanimously
last year, after my conversation with Senate candidate to Adam
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Swarzey coming up just after seven point thirty. We have
the ability in Minnesota to provide essentially a tax breaks,
tax incentive for parents who want to pay seventeen hundred
dollars into a program that would assist them going to
essentially a charter school, no cost to the taxpayers. Here,
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the money is going out to the states from the
federal government. Regardless, you cut a seventeen hundred dollars check
and then you get a tax break at the end.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Of the year.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
It doesn't impact anybody else, It doesn't impact you, it
doesn't impact me. And yet the Democrats are running with this.
The Republicans are trying to push private school vouchers again
that's going to cost Minnesotan's money. They use Representative Sidney
Jordan as their poster child. Afore this the whole posting
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on x that was making their rounds yesterday. Not a
single news story about this. By the way, I have
so many other stories of other bills moving through of
which there's hardly any commentary online because I spent a
lot of time online, and yet this particular one is
all over the place online or isn't a singles news
story about it. But the DFL cleverly put Sidney Jordan
up Representative Sidney Jordan as their spokesperson for this in
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a post with her face shoved up against a camera,
and I'm convinced they did this just because they wanted
to invite the ratio in the comments. They're just picking
a fight, spreading blatant lies. We'll get to this coming
up after the interview with my guest at seven thirty,
but getting to the how it started regarding the OIG bill,
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Representative Jim Nash bringing the bill back before the commit
and it ended up being blocked once again by Democrats.
Speaker 9 (09:04):
I would ask our members on this side of the
aisle to please vote now. I will not I, as
co chair of this committee, will not send a nonconstitutional
bill out of this committee. Members on our side, please
vote now.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
Thank you, Chair Cleveborn. You know once again we have
we We did listen to the DEE and it was
not adopted. We did listen to other amendments that were adopted.
We recommended that the other amendments that had merit be adopted,
perhaps in the juiciary, where they have greater expertise than
this committee does. So members, the Chair is going to
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request a role call to move House file or Senate
file eight to fifty six as amended to the Juiciary
Clerk will take the.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Role, and it got voted down by Democrats. They passed
the same bill unanimously last year. They just want to
protect the fraudsters. That's it, and that's all Governor Tim
Walls wants to do with his new plan. Governor Tim
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Walls announced yesterday his intent to or desire, i should say,
to modernize and centralize the Department of Human Services as
part of an effort to crack down on fraud in
Minnesota's Medicaid programs. The planned is twofold, according to the
story from Fox nine. First, the state would shift away
from the doing that thing with my fingers complex layered
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administration managed by a patchwork of counties, managed care organizations,
and state agencies to centralize the entity run by the state.
And at the same time, the state would also work
to upgrade its Medicaid administrated systems, which the governor says
are grossly outdated. And again, Governor Walls admitted that he
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knew this what he got in to office years ago.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Just candidly, I'm a little disappointed that we would start
with that, because these are conversations that were brought to
me before I was even elected governor and said, you're
gonna have to do something with DHS. You'll have to
tackle DHS. It's antiquated computer systems. It's just in decentralized control.
So yeah, we're going to need legislative buy in.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Well again, do you do that all along? It didn't
do anything about it? Oh and by the way, because
of course it does. It comes with a massive, massive
price tag seventeen million dollars in the first budget cycle
to a projected fifty five million in the next cycle,
and when you account for DFL math, that's probably closer
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to one hundred to one hundred and fifty million dollars
when all of a sudden done. This is according to
the Budget Director on a ming. The current plan doesn't
call for a full state takeover the Department of Human
Services administration. Rather, the state is only planning on assuming
responsibility for eligibility to terminations and certain medical assistance eligibility processes.
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The state would however, conduct a study on which of course,
is going to cost us money, looking at the status
of responsibility shared by the state, counties and tribes and
determine how the Department of Human Services would move forward.
Already many individuals and I will share this with you.
Coming up, we have a Fraud Committee chair and Representative
gubernatorial candidate Christian Robbins Kristin Robbins coming out and pushing
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back against this. Matt Dean has a piece this morning,
Center of the American Experiment. Governor Wall's medicaid centralization plan
will make things worse. I'll leave you with this though.
This clip went viral yesterday, and for good reason. Governor
Tim Wall's explaining attempting to explain the only reason that
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he believes that you're hearing about fraud here in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
I think Minnesotans have to recognize is you're hearing about
fraud Minnesota because we are prosecuting people.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
You're going to hear about it.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
States.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
You're going to continue to see it.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
But the fix is.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
You don't want to hear about fraud, not because somebody
is not prosecuting somebody.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
You don't want to hear.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
About fraud because you know the safeguards and the systems
are in place. And I don't see another There's not
another model. No other state has gone to a more
decentralized model.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Every other state has moved towards.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
A more centralized model of accountability, and I think that's
what makes most sense.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
The only reason that you're hearing about fraud is because
of their prosecuting of fraud.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I think Minnesotans have to recognize is you're hearing about
fraud Minnesota because we are prosecuting people.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
You're gonna be amazing every word of what you just
said wrong faily.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Governor Walls announces plans to centralize and modernize DHS.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
According to an article from Fox.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Nine, Matt Dean Americanexperiment dot Org rights, Walls's centralization plan
will just make things worse. Ignoring recommendations from his own people,
Walls will repeat the mistakes of minsture, create a fraud
biome under a new massive bureau. The most cynical version
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of this is that Walls is attempting to ensure an
ability to more easily ignore all the fraud. Now again,
he's done right. We're counting the months and his time
as governor, and it can't come quick enough. Amy Klobashar
is apparently still running as a gubernatorial candidate, although one
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questions whether or not she's actually bothering to campaign. Also,
she is on she serves on a Senate committee. And
there was a hearing that took place in DC regarding
the massive fraud in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But guess who didn't show up? Yeah, Amy Klobashar.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I have a couple of eclips from Representative Kristin Robbins,
but she was there in DC and said this, I'm Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Kristin Robbins here.
Speaker 10 (15:02):
I just finished testifying at the Senate Judiciary Committee in Washington,
d C. About the massive scale of the fraud of Minnesota.
I was disappointed that Amy Klovershard didn't even bother to come.
She's a member of the full committee, and other members
of the committee were here. As Governor, I know how
to stop the fraud, and I will hold agencies and
criminals accountable. We are done with fraud Minnesota, and.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
All this program would do would make it easier to
go and cover it all up. Amy Clovisch writ doesn't
want to come anywhere near this. She doesn't want to
address it, she doesn't want to be associated with it.
And remember this is the reason why Walls ended up
dropping out of what would have been a historic attempt
at a third term as governor. Here in Minnesota, the
legacy of Governor Tim Wallas is going to be that
of abject failure. But speaking Tuesday to state leaders, they said,
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in the long run, despite the seventeen million in the
first budget cycle and fifty five million in the next
budget cycle, the plan will prove to be a cost
saver for counties.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Wall says, I'm willing.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
To take the you know, whatever political heat there is
for making these massive changes that need to be done.
But in the long run, everybody will be served better
by them. No, he means that, but he's only talking
about the people that he cares about. When he says
everybody will be better served by them, he just means Democrats.
That's all that he's referring to. In recent weeks, the
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State Program Integrity Director Tim O'Malley also released a comprehensive
report looking at the state fraud problem and found the
failures dating back for decades.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
By the way, he quit, that's right on Monday.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Six weeks or so after being on the job, tim
O'Malley told the House Fraud Prevention of State Oversight Committee.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Then he quit.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
My task was to examine the past, come up with
specific recommendations for long term solutions.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I think the roadmap does that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
The announcement during the meeting appeared to catch some of
the committee leaders off guard that O'Malley was finishing up
his work. The retired judge officially started the role in
early January. He provided a sixty page report on what
he found regarding fraud and taxpayer funded programs. He provided
a road map with suggestions for oversight to the state.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Oh, when would you be surprised.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
To know that what Governor Tim Walls put out yesterday
completely ignores everything that Tim O'Malley put forward.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You know, the guy that just quit.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
On Monday.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
After the committee meeting, Channel five spoke with O'Malley and asked,
do you feel as the lawmakers or the administration needs
someone to get in and replace you.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
O'Malley said yes. The reporter followed up.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
If that doesn't happen in a timely manner, does that
concern concern you? O'Malley replied, yes, it does, and, as
Matt Dean points out in the piece, simply hiding the
entire statewide medicaid system under a governor controlled bureau in
Saint Paul Drive by a new website is just making
things worse.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
So John Walls wants to modernize the AHS consolidated new computer.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
System and I'm assuming a.
Speaker 11 (18:15):
New massive software program will need to be created.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, we've all seen how poorly that has gone in
the past.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
At one time when we had a slurplus.
Speaker 12 (18:28):
When Walls was in he could have easily made these
upgrades and show us not to So either again he's
lying or he just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Want to fix it.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Here's more from Governor Tim Walls in the press conference yesterday.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Over the past several years, we have taken major moves
to combat the fraud, to strengthen oversight, expand investigations, improve audits,
upgrade technology, and increase enforcements. But protecting those programs requires
more than just the enforcement. It's moving back upstream in
the prevention model.
Speaker 13 (19:01):
Horrible.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Thank you, Tim Walls, or I am now dumber for
what I have just listened to.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Thank you for the talkback and careful making that turn.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Good morning, John.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
Whenever Tim Waltz talks, it's kind of like that scene
from Pirates of the Caribbean where the British guy says,
do you think he plans it? Or does he make
it up as he goes along.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Matt Dean goes on to say Walls dismantles the cost
controlling competition, overlooks simple verification tools, fails to address the
core fraud drivers, while directly conflicting with the federal requirements
under the One Big, Beautiful Bill, and to the point
I made a moment ago inexplicably, it contradicts and ignores
the key recommendations from his own Program Integrity director Tim
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O'Malley back in February twenty third of this year with
the roadmap to Program Integrity and fraud Prevention with Walls's
team has ghosted despite the reports submission to the governor
and legislative leaders. Here's more from the Fraud Committee chair,
gubernatorial candidate and Representative Kristin Robbins on Walls's plan.
Speaker 10 (20:13):
Hi, Kristin Robbins, he the Minnesota Fraud Prevention Committee, and
I just finished listening to the Governor's press conference about
his new plan to stop fraud by getting rid of
the role of managed care organizations and counties in delivering
services and centralizing everything at DHS. I do agree with
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some of the ideas in his proposals, specifically around modernizing technology.
That is the first and most important thing we should
be doing, especially this session. But the other proposals where
he wants to centralize everything at DHS, I think.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Is a mistake.
Speaker 10 (20:49):
DHS has proven over and over that they have not
been able to manage these programs. The Optium report that
came out last fall that DHS paid for flagged ninety
percent of the autism centers as potential fraud. And those
are the ones DHS managed. The ones managed by managed
care organizations, which is eighty percent of our Medicaid population,
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We're not included in that. And the reason is is
because managed care organizations have each one has their own
special Investigative Unit SIU, which is forensic accountants and fraud
prevention specialists who look at all the billing and flag
this using the technology the state is still not caught
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up with. So the managed care organizations are the most
robust element of fraud detection we have in our medicaid
system right now, and to cut the knees out from
under them and try centralizing everything at DHS is a
huge mistake. So I'm just encouraging the governor to put
pause on that idea.
Speaker 14 (21:55):
Jimmy Walls knows that centralizing DHS what just make it
a clearinghouse for fraud in the state of Minnesota. Like
you said, he's going to ride us like we've never
been ridden before, and the fraud in the background is
just going to increase. It continues to today. Nothing is
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being done about it. So what makes you think that
this will take care of it?
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Expect for the next eleven months for me to ride
you like you've never been ridden. You can trust me
on this. The person who's angriest about this fraud is me.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, I challenge that.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
All Right, one more I'm running a little late, but
I want to play one more clip from the press
conference yesterday. Walls ended up once again changing the topic
midstream to go and focus on the evil that white
men do.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Look, it's not law abiding citizens. If that were the case,
there's a lot of white men. Should be holding a
lot of white men accountable for the crimes that they
have committed. I think for the community to make educate
their population, because I think what you're seeing here is
there are secondary victims in this that there's providers inside
the community that are then victimizing them, creating themselves by
signing them up.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Because when we're.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Going to some of these people, they're like, I had
no idea I was in this program. So I think
it's it's asking us, then, you know, for every crime,
which of course the majority being committed by white men,
asking us to do more about that. I think it's
crime in general. And I think the biggest thing on
this is is just making.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Sure that we're educating.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
This is eighty people or so.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
That have been convicted in this, maybe some more in
that out of a broader ring medicate fraudule stretch across
all racial demographics, all all ethnic groups.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So I think it's really important for us.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
To note each.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Each community's got this in their own mids. But to
blame them and say that they should have been responsible
for stopping it, I think that's a pretty hard reach.
I think we continue to educate folks about why they
shouldn't commit crimes. You would hope that it's being taught
both at home and at schools and in our society,
but no, I think this idea that the Somali community
is to blame for this because they didn't do more,
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I think that's how we got into this, and that's
you know again, don't I know.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
We're not going to lose the plot here.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
What all this work that's being done. Donald Trump brought
this to the attention like this is something brand new.
It's not brand new, and it's been being worked on,
but he made it white hot and very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
This is just a word salad with no substance. So
it was the attention given to the.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Eighty percent eight to ninety percent of the fraud being
conducted by the Somali community and then Trump.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Donald Trump and his looming orange face. The problem here.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Is that what I'm supposed to take away from from that?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
All right, we're gonna switch gears. Coming up.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
We'll get to your talkbacks in just a moment here
on Twin Cities News Talk. Will also talk with Adam Sowarze,
Senate candidate. We'll get his thoughts on Operation Epic Fury,
also his Senate run fraud here in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Don't go anywhere you're.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Listening to Twin Cities News Talk AM eleven thirty and
one oh three five FM. During the White House Press
Briefing yesterday, white House Press Secretary of Caroline Levitt talking
about the Democrats and their past views on the issue
of threats from Iran versus That was three years ago.
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They've been speaking now since the start of Operation Epic Fury.
Speaker 15 (25:44):
The Democrats on Capitol Hill are clearly being quite disingenuous.
Three years ago, not a single Democrat voted for the
against the resolution condemning Iran as the world's leading state
sponsor of terror. Yet now with President Trump as Commander
in chief, finally taking the action that so many Democrats
have called on the Commander in chief to do for many,
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many years to wipe out the threat of a rogue
Iranian terrorist regime, Now all of a sudden, Democrats are
playing politics with this long standing bipartisan policy of the
United States, and they, fifty three of them in the
House recently voted against the resolution condemning Iran as the
world state sponsor of terror. So I wouldn't take Democrats
out their word. As for boots on the ground, the
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President has talked about this repeatedly. Wisely, he does not
rule options out as commander in chief. So again, I
would hesitate to confirm anything that a Democrat on Capitol
Hill says right now about the President's thinking.
Speaker 16 (26:39):
Errett, John, you outline to Steve the military components of
what would be involved in ending this war. But it
seems like there's a political opponent to the president, said
the Fox earlier today. He doesn't believe the new Ayahtola
can live in peace. He made a variety of comments
suggesting that he should be involved in picking the new
Iranian leader. Is the ending of this war also contingent
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on Iran selecting a leader?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
That So, that was Caroline Levitt and the White House
Press briefing press conference yesterday didn't get a chance to
get her to her answer on that, But joining me now,
very pleased to welcome to the show Adam Swarzy, Minnesota
veteran for us AS Center at Good morning, Adam, thank
you so much for checking in this morning. I know
you're currently traveling. I'm sure you're campaigning, but I appreciate
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the opportunity to talk to you a bit this morning.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Hey, good morning, mister Jell. Thanks for having back on that.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
So listen, I'm curious your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Let's go to the question that was posed to Caroline
Levitt there at the end. We know that with Operation
Epic Fury, we have degraded Iran's ability greatly to wage
war protecting not only ourselves but our allies in the region.
But you know, there does seem to be a question
over what the ultimate goal of the United States would
be regarding the Iranian regime. So before I get your
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overall thoughts, especially with your military background, what would you
like to see happen moving forward regarding Operation Epic Fury
and also you know the you know, the son of
the Iatola taking over right now, what do you think
needs to happen in terms of the Iranian regime?
Speaker 6 (28:08):
I think we needs to happen is exactly what has happened,
is we have a decisive victory for the United States
of America and then we get back to business with
all the other wonderful things that we're doing on the
home front, were lowering taxes, taxes on tips, tax on
Social Security, reducing drug prices. I'm not a four wars guy,
but President Trump is an awesome record when it comes
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to foreign policies. If you look at as recently as
Venezuela's and ended out One Night operation that we deposed
a world leader who is not recognized as a rightful
ruler by the international community nor the Biden administration. And
if you look at what's going on right now in Iran,
this was slated to be a month long operation. Within
two days we achieved owning the skies, owning the season.
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Are now on our second and third priority targets with unvetted,
unsteymied resistance this point. But we need to get it,
get it done, and get it quick and get back out.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
What was your instinctive reaction, again, given your military background
talking with us in a candidate, Adams Worzy, what was
your instinctive reaction when the operation got more got underway.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
Yeah, as a former Marine and Navy seal who has
more time down range than anybody serving in Congress for
the Senate, I was just actually impressed with our ability
to turn the ship around. When I left the military
under the Biden regime, we were at a historic low morale.
We could not retain troops, and our military efficiency was terrible.
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We were crashing planes into each other, we were shooting
our own planes down.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
And now we just did the most.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Amazing single hit execution ever in the history of our
country in Venezuela. Sorry except for George Washington crossing the
Delaware on Christmas Eve. That was gangster. But this new operation,
the conflict in Iran, the military efficiency to completely cut
off the head of the number one world sponsor of
terrorism between of four billion dollars a year that had
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the fourth largest land army in the world in two days.
Is it's really it's the most decisive military knockout in history.
And it's because we have leaders who are fectured on
the right things. We're deepy, we're deep politicized in the military,
and we're storing the military to what it's supposed to do,
fight our nations adversaries and protect American citizens. And this
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is why it matters to me, is I've had one
of my brothers die in my arms in Iraq that
was sponsored by the she Hat militious courtesie of Iran.
I've lost seal brothers in Syria from the she Had
military brigades. I've seen in my own eye the death, decayed, destruction,
the tune of hundreds of thousands of people because of
their any proxies. So as somebody who doesn't like wars,
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we just stopped.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Six four and wars in two days.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Well, and it's you know, it's frustrating on two different
fronts as we played in that clip from Caroline Levitt.
You know, in the past you've had a condemnation coming
from the left regarding Iran and the atrocities that they've committed,
you know. And then here locally, we were just discussing
the fact that you have Democrats that signed off on
the Office of Inspector General last year, where you had
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unanimous support, and yet you have Democrats here in Minnesota
that are turning their back on what they already supported,
all because if it's an it's an election year. In
my opinion, you know that that that hypocrisy is incredibly frustrating.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Adam, I know you sense that as well.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Well.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I love that you brought that up.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
The Democrats who are the number one fans of the
Ukraine War and want the military to invest its national
blood and treasure for a boots on operation. That's the
Democrats want. We just stopped the number one supporter of Russia.
Iran was sponsoring.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Them with all of their drones.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
We just cut off to all that capability. But the
Democrats refused again to support America First four policy. And
by the way, let's talk about Democrats in Minnesota. Let's
not forget that we spent about five billion dollars on
this this operation so far. That's less than half of
Walls's fraud.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
The website for a Senate dot com Again, Minnesota veteran
running for US ED and we're talking with Adam Swarzei.
Let's talk a bit about your campaign. I know that
you've had some positive outcomes regarding some district polling that
has taken place over the course of the past few months.
How has your Senate campaign been going and what have
you been hearing from potential voters about, you know, the
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issues that concern them most. I'm always curious to find
out what you're hearing on the ground versus you know,
what I cover on a daily basis, because often it's
it's different talking points.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Yeah, well, I appreciate that you're extra savvy, John. You
know how this is an endorsement race in Minnesota, and
all pathways are not through DC, they're through the Minnesota grassroots.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
And to that too, we are crushing it.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
We've got the largest grassroots organization the entire state of
any candidate. We're raising the dollars need to compete in November.
So I'm really proud of all those things. The issues yeah,
I mean Minnesotans are angry, Minnesotans are embarrassed. Minnesota's on
the national new scene constantly for all the wrong reasons.
The soft down crime policies, the Democrats supporting the legal
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immigrants but not American citizens, and the fraud. I mean,
for a lot of the country, the referendum for a
midterm election is on the presidency, and I would agree
with that, except Minnesota. This midterm election is going to
be a referendum on the failure of Walls, Flanagan and
Keith Elison's policy.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Adam Swarze again, Minnesota veteran for US and is it
Senate Schwarze for Senate dot Com. Thank you for the
time this morning, Adam, It's always great to speak with you,
and continued good luck out on the campaign trail. Look
forward to next time you and I get a chance
to chat.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
John Coplas.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
All right, let's go here, getting back to the legislative session.
If you haven't been online, you probably haven't seen this,
and you're lucky. I reposted this on my x feed
and I'll actually do the same for at TC news
Talk for those that find me there at j On
at John Justice. So there was a post put up
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by the Minneso to DFL yesterday pushing back on this
idea of essentially Trump giving states money. He wants to
give money, and he is giving money to schools and
to also lower taxes, but Minnesota Democrats will not allow
you to opt in. So I'm going to share with
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you the audio from this video posted online. You're going
to hear from Representative Sidney Jordan, and I'm convinced, as
I stated earlier, that this entire post and talking point,
which is filled with misinformation, straight up lies, it's there
to confuse the public, to mislead the public, and it's
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also there for the ratio. The DFL knows exactly what
they're doing by putting up Sidney Jordan as the poster
person to go and talk about this, and especially the
language in which she uses in describing falsely what this
would do. So we'll start with this, and then we'll
dive into commentary from friend of the show Max Rymer
and Walter Hudson over what this tax incentive for parents
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with school children what actually go and do. Here's the
audio from the post from the Minnesota DFL.
Speaker 12 (35:10):
Good News and bad news from Minnesota's public schools.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Let's do the bad news first.
Speaker 12 (35:15):
Republicans in the legislature are added again to bring private
school of vouchers to our state, and at a time
when our public systems are being attacked and defunded, my colleague,
Representative Andrew Myers is fighting for handouts to rich families
who already send their kids to private schools. When Republicans
show you who they are, believe them. Handing out tax
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breaks to the wealthiest among us at the expense of
everyday kids earning a public education is ridiculous, especially now
when families are struggling to even put food on the
table and pay their bills. These vouchers would be a
disaster for our schools, our state, and our students. But
here's the good news. Dfllers will never let this happen.
We're firmly committed to supporting and funding our state's public schools,
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and we've shown it time and time again. We invest
in our students' futures, support our teachers, and set up
our schools to succeed. Our proposals this year support our
schools while the GOP tries to use public money for
private ventures and you have my word. Democrats will fight
this proposal, and we will continue to defend Minnesota's public
schools and support all of our state students, not just
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the ones who were born with rich parents or go
to select private schools. It's just wild to me the
Republicans are spending more time trying to get kids out
of public schools than trying to get Ice out of
public schools.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Ice was never in public schools.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
First off, Luke Scott, Walker's getting a work out this morning.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
Every word of what you just said, that's wrong.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Here's the thing about women and women are insane.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, and Representative Sidney Jordan certainly fits that.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Let's make this easier for you that minute thirty of
garbage nonsense. Walter Hudson puts it really succinctly on X
Would you write a seventeen hundred dollars check to your
school if you got that money back on your tax return?
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Of course you would, but Walls won't let you. This
story was everywhere on social media, the DFL commenting on it,
the GOP commenting on it, and yet I didn't see
a single story at the time when I was prepping
this morning. So Max Reimer testifying during the legislative session.
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I will share with you what he had to say,
but he writes in conjunction with the audio coming up
in just a moment, he says, hang with me.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
The federal government.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Created a tax credit scholarship program the states can use
to participate in. If the state opts in, taxpayers can
donate money to approved scholarship granting organizations and receive a
dollar for dollar federal tax crew up to seventeen hundred dollars,
and then that money goes to students in private and
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public schools. If Minnesota doesn't opt into this, that support
is going to Colorado or Virginia. It is the easiest
vote in the world. And Democrats, Walls included, said no,
and Max goes on to right uniformly, I don't even
think they know why that's what this does. But again,
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just really quick and I'll play Max's comments. Listen to
the way that Sidney Jordan describes what I just mentioned.
It is a federal government created tax credit scholarship program.
You opt in. The federal government provides the funding. Taxpayers
donate their own money to approve scholarship granting organizations and
then get a tax credit at the end of the year.
This has no impact on anybody else, doesn't impact you,
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does it impact me. It only impacts the individual donating
the money up front, who ends up getting that back.
And then we get dollars from the federal government. And
yet listen to the lie that is spewed by Representative
Sidney Jordan.
Speaker 12 (39:05):
Good news and bad news from Minnesota's public schools. Let's
do the bad news first, Republicans in the legislature are
added again to bring private school vouchers to our estates.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
That's not what this is.
Speaker 12 (39:15):
And at a time when our public systems are being
attacked and defunded, my colleague, Representative Andrew Myers is fighting
for handouts to rich families who already send their kids
to private schools.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
You don't have to be rich to do this.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
You get that money back, the schools get the money.
They have absolutely no shame whatsoever, just lying straight to
your face. But to the broken and brainwashed on the left,
they'll grab the biggest spoon.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Possible and gulp down the lies.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Here's Max Rymer on the House floor talking about the
very issue as they were debating it.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
This bill forward.
Speaker 17 (39:53):
I think it's been said before but I just wanted
to clarify. Would this bill prevent an organization like Education
Minnesota from setting up an SGO, should they so choose?
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Represented Myers. Yeah, I don't believe it would. Representative Thank you,
mister chair.
Speaker 17 (40:10):
And then the follow up question, did you personally call
President Trump to orchestrate how this tax credit would work?
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Represented Meyer?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Yeah I thought so. I think your represented Myers.
Speaker 17 (40:26):
And you know, my predecessor and new Brindley said pretty
often got known for it that this is bonkers, and
this is bonkers what I'm hearing today, because this is
the framework by which we operate by I hear and
I've heard a lot of navel gazing about. I wish
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the federal government did it this way. I wish the
federal government would prioritize this. Well, none of us have,
to my knowledge, President Trump's phone number to give him
a call and say, hey, I wish it would have worked.
This is the state level of framework by which we
have to work off of to get money not only
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into public schools, but any child who needs it. Right now,
we are putting children in this political battle that we're
trying to have that we have no control over It's
been said multiple times that this money is going out anyway,
so why would we not take advantage of it? And
then I've heard a number of times there's almost soft
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bigotry of low expectations that our public schools cannot compete
for these dollars. Well, just in this very committee, tell
that to the to my teacher apprenticeship program in North Branch,
which was spearheaded by Representative Clarity and Representative Mueller, that
they have spun off a teacher apprenticeship program that is
remarkable a positives.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Briefly, I want to get to a few of your
comments from the iHeartRadio app. But again, all this is
you write a seventeen hundred dollars check to your school,
and you get that money back on your tax return,
and the school gets the money a dollar for dollar
federal tax credit. And if Minnesota doesn't opt in, those
dollars go someplace else. And yet you had Sidney Jordan
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in that piece complaining about schools being underfunded. This is
a possibility to give schools thousands of dollars, and they
would rather lie than to allow what they view as
any GOP proposal move forward.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Hey, John Bruce, Shackby.
Speaker 11 (42:33):
You know what's really funny how she talks about getting
rich people the ability to send their kids to private
schools that are already going there. Well, they had no
qualms about giving rich kids free meals at breakfasts and
lunch and schools.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
What's changed. Have a good day.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah, there's plenty of rich families out there that can absolutely,
absolutely afford to feed their kids in schools, and yet
they too enjoyed the free school meals program as well.
Speaker 18 (43:04):
I just can't listen to this lady talk about public schools.
There's a reason that people want to send their kids
to private school. You don't learn anything in public school anymore.
We throw all this money at it, and it does
nothing to help our kids.
Speaker 19 (43:23):
I'd like to tell that idiot that just viewed that
crap for thirty seconds.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yeah, I am not rich.
Speaker 19 (43:28):
We're not rich.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
We put our.
Speaker 19 (43:30):
Kids through private school because our public schools were so crappy.
That and we struggle to do that while still paying
our taxes to fund those crappy schools. So she can
shove us.
Speaker 13 (43:44):
This is Tim from Blaine. The reason that Democrats don't
want us to have that school grand thing is because
then kids will get put in private schools and they
won't build and document them and make them hate America.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Like yep, here's more from Max Rymer. And tell that
to the kids.
Speaker 17 (44:03):
Who do the door knocking with Domino's cards to raise
program funds for their wrestling team. This idea that public
schools cannot compete, or that somehow private schools are going
to monopolize this process, I don't believe it, because I
have some plenty of organization from our public schools, even
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at this capital. The last thing I'll say is that
in Forest Lake we have Lakes International Language Academy, and
a lot of my constituents kids go to that school,
and it's a wonderful school.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
I think a few of you are familiar with it,
and I.
Speaker 17 (44:40):
Think it needs to be said that these charter schools
are also public schools, but they don't have levy authority.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
So what could money if they.
Speaker 17 (44:47):
Choose to get organized, spin up an sgo what money?
What difference could this money make in a situation like that.
We're talking about property poor districts, We're talking about no
levy authority, We're talking about still public school support for
these children. This is a critical moment, and I think
people look at us down at the Capitol and are
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oftentimes like, why can't you Why can't you guys do
common sense things? And what could be more common sense
than this to say, the money's getting spent anyway, we.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Should have a piece of that pie.
Speaker 17 (45:21):
That should not be sent to Colorado, that money should
not be sent to Virginia, that money should stay here.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
I agree with a lot of.
Speaker 17 (45:30):
The comments that have been made before that either collectively
we're misunderstanding this bill or there's been misrepresentation. But to me,
this seems like unless you have Representative Meyers, Donald Trump's
phone number, we can call him right now. This seems
like the common sense thing to do.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
Thank you. No, it's complete.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
It is complete misrepresentation, all because it's being proposed by Republicans,
even though Democrats can go and take advantage of this
as well, and the goal to talk about money being spent,
rich individuals being you know, are the only ones taking
advantage of this. Any Democrat talking about fiscal responsibility can
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simply just shove it.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
I'll give you the examples. Coming up.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
A new bill proposes a constitutional sales tax hike to
fund affordability. This is beyond the already enacted tax hike.
In twenty twenty three, you have forty million dollars being
proposed in rental assistant bailouts. Wait until you hear what
the Minnesota Chamber of Commerce has to say about the
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businesses that have been dealing with two and a half
months of paid family medical leave, the vehicle tabs being quintupled.
Governor Tim Walls wants to spend upwards of sixty five million,
one hundred million dollars on his new fraud cover up program,
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and they're talking about fiscal responsibility. Our three comes up
in just a moment, and more of your talkbacks as
well here on Twin City's News Talk.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
Good Morning, John.
Speaker 11 (47:04):
In response to the legislator's statements on.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Having to be rich to go to a private school,
that's not true.
Speaker 6 (47:16):
I was one of five kids who was sent to
private school, and my parents did so on a
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Very limited income, and they did so because they knew
how important that education would be for us in the future.
Last hour, I had shared an editorial again, this was
a This was a really vapid, ridiculous attempt to push
back on the Save America Act and voter id disguised
as being a thoughtful piece. A former member of the
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House going back to ninety three. I guess Jerry Sikorski
wrote this Minnesota Reformer.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I had a friend of.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The show who posted I haven't been able to look
this up yet, but they said that Jerry was caught
up in the US House banking scandal in the nineties.
The guy bounced nearly seven hundred checks. He's a poster
boy for government fraud. If that's true, that's really really funny.
So thank you for that. I'll do a quick update
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on my own and get the details. Oh, welcome into
hour two twin City's new Talk AM eleven thirty and
one oh three five FM.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Can you take your talkbacks?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Brought to you by Lyndahl Realty All morning long, as
we dive into fraud, A roadmap to fraud laid out
by the US House of Representatives Oversight Committee. Governor Tim
Walls announces his plans to centralize and modernize DHS.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
No, it's a cover up. Plan. That's all this is. First.
I want to go back to the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Though, Hey John, I know it's not Freedom Friday yep,
but following up for Monday, and we were talking about
Ricardo Montlebond's lack of or having a fake chest.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
In con Yeah he didn't.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Well, I looked up Sigourney Weaver on Galausy Quest too,
and I can confirm my finding show that she also
had prosthetics.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, I was right about that.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
But the funny story.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
That I read about it is that she would throw
them around at the crew and other cast members members.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
A corner where I sho didn't handles on the Spaceship.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
There is a fantastic Galaxy Quest documentary on Amazon that
if you're a fan of that movie, of which I am,
people should definitely go and check that out.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
It's good stuff, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
A fifty three page staff report center the American Experiment
Bill Glohn Wrights last week on fraud in Minnesota. As
some have pointed out, if you follow fraud, the report
doesn't provide a lot of new information, but it does
contribute to things, specifically collecting the information all in one
place and also publishing the transcribed interviews with many of
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the top state administrators who presided over the scandals during
the past seven years. The report includes one hundred and
sixty six footnotes documenting its findings and conclusions. As with
the earlier Feeding Our Future in the June of twenty
twenty four report issued by the Office of Legislative Auditor
the OLA, the committee goes to great lengths to document
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who knew what when about fraud inside of the Walls administration.
The bottom line is is that they knew all along,
but just wouldn't do anything about it, despite having at
the time all the authority needed to act. The committee
notes that it's March fourth. Staff report is interim as
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the investigation continues, and let me jump ahead. We're not
going to get into Walls and his plan just yet,
but I do want to share this quick clip of
an interview that Governor Tim Walls did this week, which
speaks to exactly what Bill Golahn in this US House
of Representatives report lays out. It goes to great links
documenting who knew about what regarding fraud inside of the
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Walls and administration, and that they knew all along but
just wouldn't do anything. About it, and the Walls admits
as much in this interview, just.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Candidly, I'm a little disappointed that we would start with
that because these are conversations that were brought to me
before I was even elected governor and said, you're going
to have to do something with DHS. You don't have
to tackle DHS. It's antiquated computer systems. It's just in
decentralized control. So yeah, we're going to need legislative buy in.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
They knew and they let it happen.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Hey, Governor Jim Walls, then why didn't you do anything
about it?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Come on, I was told and I got in that.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
You know, I was worried about problems in DHS and
the outdated systems, and I just hadn't had a chance
to get to it yet. It's too busy practicing my
jazz hands. In the meantime, Republicans continue to try to
put into place with a bill to establish an independent
Office of Inspector General to fight the fraud. It's been
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the GOP's number one priority for over a year. This
is the exact same bill that was passed during the
DFL controlled Senate almost unanimously last year, and yet Representative
Nash brought the OIG bill back before his committee, Democrats
refused to let it advance.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Here's some of what Nash had to say during the
legislative session this week.
Speaker 8 (05:00):
I was going to take or bring House file or
Senate file eight fifty six as a minute before the committee.
Senate File eight fifty six.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Is the OIG bill.
Speaker 8 (05:09):
It has received testimony, it has received amendments, and we
are going to move it on to judiciary. That is
the referral members, and I will recognize you, Cheric Cleborne.
Thank We are running out of days. We are quickly
running out of days.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
So at the end of.
Speaker 8 (05:29):
This week, my CoA chair has posted her agenda. It
is not on that agenda. When we go to Tuesday
of next week. I'm happy to bring the bill back
again if we need to, but we're running.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Out of days.
Speaker 8 (05:43):
At the Thursday meeting of next week, we don't have
one because of the eed break. And if this bill
is truly as important as everyone says it is, it
is time to get it moving on to its next
next station. We're going to give you all an opera
ortunity to do that today and recognize that changes can
be made in the next committee stop.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
But if we do not move.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
It on today, we are effectively killing this thing off.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
And you know we've heard that it's.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
Safe, I believe safe and snugly here in state govern
and finance. But it is time to move this on
if we are truly interested in an Office of Inspector
General bill. The time is now. Waiting is not going
to help this process at all. Introducing new bills delays
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the process with referrals and different things moving the time
is now.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So so that's how very much I would like. That's
how it started.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I'll give you how it's going here in just a
second because Democrats blocked it again. I have other examples
of this later on in the show. But the DFL
right now has no interest at all doing anything of
substance during the legislative session.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
The only interest.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Their only agenda is to put forward talking points to
use against Republicans later this year, regardless of how ridiculous
it is. It's why they won't pass and put in
place an independent Office of Inspector General, even though they
signed off on it and all voted on it unanimously
last year, after my conversation with Senate candidate to Adam
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Swarzey coming up just after seven point thirty. We have
the ability in Minnesota to provide essentially a tax breaks,
tax incentive for parents who want to pay seventeen hundred
dollars into a program that would assist them going to
essentially a charter school, no cost to the taxpayers. Here,
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the money is going out to the states from the
federal government. Regardless, you cut a seventeen hundred dollars check
and then you get a tax break at the end.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Of the year.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
It doesn't impact anybody else, It doesn't impact you, it
doesn't impact me. And yet the Democrats are running with this.
The Republicans are trying to push private school vouchers again
that's going to cost Minnesotan's money. They use Representative Sidney
Jordan as their poster child. Afore this the whole posting
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on x that was making their rounds yesterday. Not a
single news story about this. By the way, I have
so many other stories of other bills moving through of
which there's hardly any commentary online because I spent a
lot of time online, and yet this particular one is
all over the place online or isn't a singles news
story about it. But the DFL cleverly put Sidney Jordan
up Representative Sidney Jordan as their spokesperson for this in
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a post with her face shoved up against a camera,
and I'm convinced they did this just because they wanted
to invite the ratio in the comments. They're just picking
a fight, spreading blatant lies. We'll get to this coming
up after the interview with my guest at seven thirty,
but getting to the how it started regarding the OIG bill,
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Representative Jim Nash bringing the bill back before the commit
and it ended up being blocked once again by Democrats.
Speaker 9 (09:04):
I would ask our members on this side of the
aisle to please vote now. I will not I, as
co chair of this committee, will not send a nonconstitutional
bill out of this committee. Members on our side, please
vote now.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
Thank you, Chair Cleveborn. You know once again we have
we We did listen to the DEE and it was
not adopted. We did listen to other amendments that were adopted.
We recommended that the other amendments that had merit be adopted,
perhaps in the juiciary, where they have greater expertise than
this committee does. So members, the Chair is going to
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request a role call to move House file or Senate
file eight to fifty six as amended to the Juiciary
Clerk will take the.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Role, and it got voted down by Democrats. They passed
the same bill unanimously last year. They just want to
protect the fraudsters. That's it, and that's all Governor Tim
Walls wants to do with his new plan. Governor Tim
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Walls announced yesterday his intent to or desire, i should say,
to modernize and centralize the Department of Human Services as
part of an effort to crack down on fraud in
Minnesota's Medicaid programs. The planned is twofold, according to the
story from Fox nine. First, the state would shift away
from the doing that thing with my fingers complex layered
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administration managed by a patchwork of counties, managed care organizations,
and state agencies to centralize the entity run by the state.
And at the same time, the state would also work
to upgrade its Medicaid administrated systems, which the governor says
are grossly outdated. And again, Governor Walls admitted that he
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knew this what he got in to office years ago.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Just candidly, I'm a little disappointed that we would start
with that, because these are conversations that were brought to
me before I was even elected governor and said, you're
gonna have to do something with DHS. You'll have to
tackle DHS. It's antiquated computer systems. It's just in decentralized control.
So yeah, we're going to need legislative buy in.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Well again, do you do that all along? It didn't
do anything about it? Oh and by the way, because
of course it does. It comes with a massive, massive
price tag seventeen million dollars in the first budget cycle
to a projected fifty five million in the next cycle,
and when you account for DFL math, that's probably closer
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to one hundred to one hundred and fifty million dollars
when all of a sudden done. This is according to
the Budget Director on a ming. The current plan doesn't
call for a full state takeover the Department of Human
Services administration. Rather, the state is only planning on assuming
responsibility for eligibility to terminations and certain medical assistance eligibility processes.
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The state would however, conduct a study on which of course,
is going to cost us money, looking at the status
of responsibility shared by the state, counties and tribes and
determine how the Department of Human Services would move forward.
Already many individuals and I will share this with you.
Coming up, we have a Fraud Committee chair and Representative
gubernatorial candidate Christian Robbins Kristin Robbins coming out and pushing
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back against this. Matt Dean has a piece this morning,
Center of the American Experiment. Governor Wall's medicaid centralization plan
will make things worse. I'll leave you with this though.
This clip went viral yesterday, and for good reason. Governor
Tim Wall's explaining attempting to explain the only reason that
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he believes that you're hearing about fraud here in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
I think Minnesotans have to recognize is you're hearing about
fraud Minnesota because we are prosecuting people.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
You're going to hear about it.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
States.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
You're going to continue to see it.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
But the fix is.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
You don't want to hear about fraud, not because somebody
is not prosecuting somebody.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
You don't want to hear.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
About fraud because you know the safeguards and the systems
are in place. And I don't see another There's not
another model. No other state has gone to a more
decentralized model.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Every other state has moved towards.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
A more centralized model of accountability, and I think that's
what makes most sense.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
The only reason that you're hearing about fraud is because
of their prosecuting of fraud.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I think Minnesotans have to recognize is you're hearing about
fraud Minnesota because we are prosecuting people.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
You're gonna be amazing every word of what you just
said wrong faily.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Governor Walls announces plans to centralize and modernize DHS.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
According to an article from Fox.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Nine, Matt Dean Americanexperiment dot Org rights, Walls's centralization plan
will just make things worse. Ignoring recommendations from his own people,
Walls will repeat the mistakes of minsture, create a fraud
biome under a new massive bureau. The most cynical version
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of this is that Walls is attempting to ensure an
ability to more easily ignore all the fraud. Now again,
he's done right. We're counting the months and his time
as governor, and it can't come quick enough. Amy Klobashar
is apparently still running as a gubernatorial candidate, although one
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questions whether or not she's actually bothering to campaign. Also,
she is on she serves on a Senate committee. And
there was a hearing that took place in DC regarding
the massive fraud in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But guess who didn't show up? Yeah, Amy Klobashar.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I have a couple of eclips from Representative Kristin Robbins,
but she was there in DC and said this, I'm Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Kristin Robbins here.
Speaker 10 (15:02):
I just finished testifying at the Senate Judiciary Committee in Washington,
d C. About the massive scale of the fraud of Minnesota.
I was disappointed that Amy Klovershard didn't even bother to come.
She's a member of the full committee, and other members
of the committee were here. As Governor, I know how
to stop the fraud, and I will hold agencies and
criminals accountable. We are done with fraud Minnesota, and.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
All this program would do would make it easier to
go and cover it all up. Amy Clovisch writ doesn't
want to come anywhere near this. She doesn't want to
address it, she doesn't want to be associated with it.
And remember this is the reason why Walls ended up
dropping out of what would have been a historic attempt
at a third term as governor. Here in Minnesota, the
legacy of Governor Tim Wallas is going to be that
of abject failure. But speaking Tuesday to state leaders, they said,
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in the long run, despite the seventeen million in the
first budget cycle and fifty five million in the next
budget cycle, the plan will prove to be a cost
saver for counties.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Wall says, I'm willing.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
To take the you know, whatever political heat there is
for making these massive changes that need to be done.
But in the long run, everybody will be served better
by them. No, he means that, but he's only talking
about the people that he cares about. When he says
everybody will be better served by them, he just means Democrats.
That's all that he's referring to. In recent weeks, the
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State Program Integrity Director Tim O'Malley also released a comprehensive
report looking at the state fraud problem and found the
failures dating back for decades.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
By the way, he quit, that's right on Monday.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Six weeks or so after being on the job, tim
O'Malley told the House Fraud Prevention of State Oversight Committee.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Then he quit.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
My task was to examine the past, come up with
specific recommendations for long term solutions.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I think the roadmap does that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
The announcement during the meeting appeared to catch some of
the committee leaders off guard that O'Malley was finishing up
his work. The retired judge officially started the role in
early January. He provided a sixty page report on what
he found regarding fraud and taxpayer funded programs. He provided
a road map with suggestions for oversight to the state.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Oh, when would you be surprised.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
To know that what Governor Tim Walls put out yesterday
completely ignores everything that Tim O'Malley put forward.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You know, the guy that just quit.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
On Monday.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
After the committee meeting, Channel five spoke with O'Malley and asked,
do you feel as the lawmakers or the administration needs
someone to get in and replace you.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
O'Malley said yes. The reporter followed up.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
If that doesn't happen in a timely manner, does that
concern concern you? O'Malley replied, yes, it does, and, as
Matt Dean points out in the piece, simply hiding the
entire statewide medicaid system under a governor controlled bureau in
Saint Paul Drive by a new website is just making
things worse.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
So John Walls wants to modernize the AHS consolidated new computer.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
System and I'm assuming a.
Speaker 11 (18:15):
New massive software program will need to be created.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, we've all seen how poorly that has gone in
the past.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
At one time when we had a slurplus.
Speaker 12 (18:28):
When Walls was in he could have easily made these
upgrades and show us not to So either again he's
lying or he just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Want to fix it.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Here's more from Governor Tim Walls in the press conference yesterday.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Over the past several years, we have taken major moves
to combat the fraud, to strengthen oversight, expand investigations, improve audits,
upgrade technology, and increase enforcements. But protecting those programs requires
more than just the enforcement. It's moving back upstream in
the prevention model.
Speaker 13 (19:01):
Horrible.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Thank you, Tim Walls, or I am now dumber for
what I have just listened to.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Thank you for the talkback and careful making that turn.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Good morning, John.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
Whenever Tim Waltz talks, it's kind of like that scene
from Pirates of the Caribbean where the British guy says,
do you think he plans it? Or does he make
it up as he goes along.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Matt Dean goes on to say Walls dismantles the cost
controlling competition, overlooks simple verification tools, fails to address the
core fraud drivers, while directly conflicting with the federal requirements
under the One Big, Beautiful Bill, and to the point
I made a moment ago inexplicably, it contradicts and ignores
the key recommendations from his own Program Integrity director Tim
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O'Malley back in February twenty third of this year with
the roadmap to Program Integrity and fraud Prevention with Walls's
team has ghosted despite the reports submission to the governor
and legislative leaders. Here's more from the Fraud Committee chair,
gubernatorial candidate and Representative Kristin Robbins on Walls's plan.
Speaker 10 (20:13):
Hi, Kristin Robbins, he the Minnesota Fraud Prevention Committee, and
I just finished listening to the Governor's press conference about
his new plan to stop fraud by getting rid of
the role of managed care organizations and counties in delivering
services and centralizing everything at DHS. I do agree with
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some of the ideas in his proposals, specifically around modernizing technology.
That is the first and most important thing we should
be doing, especially this session. But the other proposals where
he wants to centralize everything at DHS, I think.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Is a mistake.
Speaker 10 (20:49):
DHS has proven over and over that they have not
been able to manage these programs. The Optium report that
came out last fall that DHS paid for flagged ninety
percent of the autism centers as potential fraud. And those
are the ones DHS managed. The ones managed by managed
care organizations, which is eighty percent of our Medicaid population,
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We're not included in that. And the reason is is
because managed care organizations have each one has their own
special Investigative Unit SIU, which is forensic accountants and fraud
prevention specialists who look at all the billing and flag
this using the technology the state is still not caught
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up with. So the managed care organizations are the most
robust element of fraud detection we have in our medicaid
system right now, and to cut the knees out from
under them and try centralizing everything at DHS is a
huge mistake. So I'm just encouraging the governor to put
pause on that idea.
Speaker 14 (21:55):
Jimmy Walls knows that centralizing DHS what just make it
a clearinghouse for fraud in the state of Minnesota. Like
you said, he's going to ride us like we've never
been ridden before, and the fraud in the background is
just going to increase. It continues to today. Nothing is
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being done about it. So what makes you think that
this will take care of it?
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Expect for the next eleven months for me to ride
you like you've never been ridden. You can trust me
on this. The person who's angriest about this fraud is me.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, I challenge that.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
All Right, one more I'm running a little late, but
I want to play one more clip from the press
conference yesterday. Walls ended up once again changing the topic
midstream to go and focus on the evil that white
men do.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Look, it's not law abiding citizens. If that were the case,
there's a lot of white men. Should be holding a
lot of white men accountable for the crimes that they
have committed. I think for the community to make educate
their population, because I think what you're seeing here is
there are secondary victims in this that there's providers inside
the community that are then victimizing them, creating themselves by
signing them up.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Because when we're.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Going to some of these people, they're like, I had
no idea I was in this program. So I think
it's it's asking us, then, you know, for every crime,
which of course the majority being committed by white men,
asking us to do more about that. I think it's
crime in general. And I think the biggest thing on
this is is just making.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Sure that we're educating.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
This is eighty people or so.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
That have been convicted in this, maybe some more in
that out of a broader ring medicate fraudule stretch across
all racial demographics, all all ethnic groups.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So I think it's really important for us.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
To note each.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Each community's got this in their own mids. But to
blame them and say that they should have been responsible
for stopping it, I think that's a pretty hard reach.
I think we continue to educate folks about why they
shouldn't commit crimes. You would hope that it's being taught
both at home and at schools and in our society,
but no, I think this idea that the Somali community
is to blame for this because they didn't do more,
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I think that's how we got into this, and that's
you know again, don't I know.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
We're not going to lose the plot here.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
What all this work that's being done. Donald Trump brought
this to the attention like this is something brand new.
It's not brand new, and it's been being worked on,
but he made it white hot and very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
This is just a word salad with no substance. So
it was the attention given to the.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Eighty percent eight to ninety percent of the fraud being
conducted by the Somali community and then Trump.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Donald Trump and his looming orange face. The problem here.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Is that what I'm supposed to take away from from that?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
All right, we're gonna switch gears. Coming up.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
We'll get to your talkbacks in just a moment here
on Twin Cities News Talk. Will also talk with Adam Sowarze,
Senate candidate. We'll get his thoughts on Operation Epic Fury,
also his Senate run fraud here in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Don't go anywhere you're.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Listening to Twin Cities News Talk AM eleven thirty and
one oh three five FM. During the White House Press
Briefing yesterday, white House Press Secretary of Caroline Levitt talking
about the Democrats and their past views on the issue
of threats from Iran versus That was three years ago.
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They've been speaking now since the start of Operation Epic Fury.
Speaker 15 (25:44):
The Democrats on Capitol Hill are clearly being quite disingenuous.
Three years ago, not a single Democrat voted for the
against the resolution condemning Iran as the world's leading state
sponsor of terror. Yet now with President Trump as Commander
in chief, finally taking the action that so many Democrats
have called on the Commander in chief to do for many,
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many years to wipe out the threat of a rogue
Iranian terrorist regime, Now all of a sudden, Democrats are
playing politics with this long standing bipartisan policy of the
United States, and they, fifty three of them in the
House recently voted against the resolution condemning Iran as the
world state sponsor of terror. So I wouldn't take Democrats
out their word. As for boots on the ground, the
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President has talked about this repeatedly. Wisely, he does not
rule options out as commander in chief. So again, I
would hesitate to confirm anything that a Democrat on Capitol
Hill says right now about the President's thinking.
Speaker 16 (26:39):
Errett, John, you outline to Steve the military components of
what would be involved in ending this war. But it
seems like there's a political opponent to the president, said
the Fox earlier today. He doesn't believe the new Ayahtola
can live in peace. He made a variety of comments
suggesting that he should be involved in picking the new
Iranian leader. Is the ending of this war also contingent
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on Iran selecting a leader?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
That So, that was Caroline Levitt and the White House
Press briefing press conference yesterday didn't get a chance to
get her to her answer on that, But joining me now,
very pleased to welcome to the show Adam Swarzy, Minnesota
veteran for us AS Center at Good morning, Adam, thank
you so much for checking in this morning. I know
you're currently traveling. I'm sure you're campaigning, but I appreciate
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the opportunity to talk to you a bit this morning.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Hey, good morning, mister Jell. Thanks for having back on that.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
So listen, I'm curious your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Let's go to the question that was posed to Caroline
Levitt there at the end. We know that with Operation
Epic Fury, we have degraded Iran's ability greatly to wage
war protecting not only ourselves but our allies in the region.
But you know, there does seem to be a question
over what the ultimate goal of the United States would
be regarding the Iranian regime. So before I get your
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overall thoughts, especially with your military background, what would you
like to see happen moving forward regarding Operation Epic Fury
and also you know the you know, the son of
the Iatola taking over right now, what do you think
needs to happen in terms of the Iranian regime?
Speaker 6 (28:08):
I think we needs to happen is exactly what has happened,
is we have a decisive victory for the United States
of America and then we get back to business with
all the other wonderful things that we're doing on the
home front, were lowering taxes, taxes on tips, tax on
Social Security, reducing drug prices. I'm not a four wars guy,
but President Trump is an awesome record when it comes
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to foreign policies. If you look at as recently as
Venezuela's and ended out One Night operation that we deposed
a world leader who is not recognized as a rightful
ruler by the international community nor the Biden administration. And
if you look at what's going on right now in Iran,
this was slated to be a month long operation. Within
two days we achieved owning the skies, owning the season.
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Are now on our second and third priority targets with unvetted,
unsteymied resistance this point. But we need to get it,
get it done, and get it quick and get back out.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
What was your instinctive reaction, again, given your military background
talking with us in a candidate, Adams Worzy, what was
your instinctive reaction when the operation got more got underway.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
Yeah, as a former Marine and Navy seal who has
more time down range than anybody serving in Congress for
the Senate, I was just actually impressed with our ability
to turn the ship around. When I left the military
under the Biden regime, we were at a historic low morale.
We could not retain troops, and our military efficiency was terrible.
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We were crashing planes into each other, we were shooting
our own planes down.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
And now we just did the most.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Amazing single hit execution ever in the history of our
country in Venezuela. Sorry except for George Washington crossing the
Delaware on Christmas Eve. That was gangster. But this new operation,
the conflict in Iran, the military efficiency to completely cut
off the head of the number one world sponsor of
terrorism between of four billion dollars a year that had
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the fourth largest land army in the world in two days.
Is it's really it's the most decisive military knockout in history.
And it's because we have leaders who are fectured on
the right things. We're deepy, we're deep politicized in the military,
and we're storing the military to what it's supposed to do,
fight our nations adversaries and protect American citizens. And this
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is why it matters to me, is I've had one
of my brothers die in my arms in Iraq that
was sponsored by the she Hat militious courtesie of Iran.
I've lost seal brothers in Syria from the she Had
military brigades. I've seen in my own eye the death, decayed, destruction,
the tune of hundreds of thousands of people because of
their any proxies. So as somebody who doesn't like wars,
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we just stopped.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Six four and wars in two days.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Well, and it's you know, it's frustrating on two different
fronts as we played in that clip from Caroline Levitt.
You know, in the past you've had a condemnation coming
from the left regarding Iran and the atrocities that they've committed,
you know. And then here locally, we were just discussing
the fact that you have Democrats that signed off on
the Office of Inspector General last year, where you had
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unanimous support, and yet you have Democrats here in Minnesota
that are turning their back on what they already supported,
all because if it's an it's an election year. In
my opinion, you know that that that hypocrisy is incredibly frustrating.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Adam, I know you sense that as well.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Well.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I love that you brought that up.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
The Democrats who are the number one fans of the
Ukraine War and want the military to invest its national
blood and treasure for a boots on operation. That's the
Democrats want. We just stopped the number one supporter of Russia.
Iran was sponsoring.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Them with all of their drones.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
We just cut off to all that capability. But the
Democrats refused again to support America First four policy. And
by the way, let's talk about Democrats in Minnesota. Let's
not forget that we spent about five billion dollars on
this this operation so far. That's less than half of
Walls's fraud.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
The website for a Senate dot com Again, Minnesota veteran
running for US ED and we're talking with Adam Swarzei.
Let's talk a bit about your campaign. I know that
you've had some positive outcomes regarding some district polling that
has taken place over the course of the past few months.
How has your Senate campaign been going and what have
you been hearing from potential voters about, you know, the
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issues that concern them most. I'm always curious to find
out what you're hearing on the ground versus you know,
what I cover on a daily basis, because often it's
it's different talking points.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Yeah, well, I appreciate that you're extra savvy, John. You
know how this is an endorsement race in Minnesota, and
all pathways are not through DC, they're through the Minnesota grassroots.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
And to that too, we are crushing it.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
We've got the largest grassroots organization the entire state of
any candidate. We're raising the dollars need to compete in November.
So I'm really proud of all those things. The issues yeah,
I mean Minnesotans are angry, Minnesotans are embarrassed. Minnesota's on
the national new scene constantly for all the wrong reasons.
The soft down crime policies, the Democrats supporting the legal
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immigrants but not American citizens, and the fraud. I mean,
for a lot of the country, the referendum for a
midterm election is on the presidency, and I would agree
with that, except Minnesota. This midterm election is going to
be a referendum on the failure of Walls, Flanagan and
Keith Elison's policy.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Adam Swarze again, Minnesota veteran for US and is it
Senate Schwarze for Senate dot Com. Thank you for the
time this morning, Adam, It's always great to speak with you,
and continued good luck out on the campaign trail. Look
forward to next time you and I get a chance
to chat.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
John Coplas.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
All right, let's go here, getting back to the legislative session.
If you haven't been online, you probably haven't seen this,
and you're lucky. I reposted this on my x feed
and I'll actually do the same for at TC news
Talk for those that find me there at j On
at John Justice. So there was a post put up
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by the Minneso to DFL yesterday pushing back on this
idea of essentially Trump giving states money. He wants to
give money, and he is giving money to schools and
to also lower taxes, but Minnesota Democrats will not allow
you to opt in. So I'm going to share with
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you the audio from this video posted online. You're going
to hear from Representative Sidney Jordan, and I'm convinced, as
I stated earlier, that this entire post and talking point,
which is filled with misinformation, straight up lies, it's there
to confuse the public, to mislead the public, and it's
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also there for the ratio. The DFL knows exactly what
they're doing by putting up Sidney Jordan as the poster
person to go and talk about this, and especially the
language in which she uses in describing falsely what this
would do. So we'll start with this, and then we'll
dive into commentary from friend of the show Max Rymer
and Walter Hudson over what this tax incentive for parents
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with school children what actually go and do. Here's the
audio from the post from the Minnesota DFL.
Speaker 12 (35:10):
Good News and bad news from Minnesota's public schools.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Let's do the bad news first.
Speaker 12 (35:15):
Republicans in the legislature are added again to bring private
school of vouchers to our state, and at a time
when our public systems are being attacked and defunded, my colleague,
Representative Andrew Myers is fighting for handouts to rich families
who already send their kids to private schools. When Republicans
show you who they are, believe them. Handing out tax
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breaks to the wealthiest among us at the expense of
everyday kids earning a public education is ridiculous, especially now
when families are struggling to even put food on the
table and pay their bills. These vouchers would be a
disaster for our schools, our state, and our students. But
here's the good news. Dfllers will never let this happen.
We're firmly committed to supporting and funding our state's public schools,
(36:00):
and we've shown it time and time again. We invest
in our students' futures, support our teachers, and set up
our schools to succeed. Our proposals this year support our
schools while the GOP tries to use public money for
private ventures and you have my word. Democrats will fight
this proposal, and we will continue to defend Minnesota's public
schools and support all of our state students, not just
(36:21):
the ones who were born with rich parents or go
to select private schools. It's just wild to me the
Republicans are spending more time trying to get kids out
of public schools than trying to get Ice out of
public schools.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Ice was never in public schools.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
First off, Luke Scott, Walker's getting a work out this morning.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
Every word of what you just said, that's wrong.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Here's the thing about women and women are insane.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, and Representative Sidney Jordan certainly fits that.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Let's make this easier for you that minute thirty of
garbage nonsense. Walter Hudson puts it really succinctly on X
Would you write a seventeen hundred dollars check to your
school if you got that money back on your tax return?
(37:12):
Of course you would, but Walls won't let you. This
story was everywhere on social media, the DFL commenting on it,
the GOP commenting on it, and yet I didn't see
a single story at the time when I was prepping
this morning. So Max Reimer testifying during the legislative session.
(37:33):
I will share with you what he had to say,
but he writes in conjunction with the audio coming up
in just a moment, he says, hang with me.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
The federal government.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Created a tax credit scholarship program the states can use
to participate in. If the state opts in, taxpayers can
donate money to approved scholarship granting organizations and receive a
dollar for dollar federal tax crew up to seventeen hundred dollars,
and then that money goes to students in private and
(38:05):
public schools. If Minnesota doesn't opt into this, that support
is going to Colorado or Virginia. It is the easiest
vote in the world. And Democrats, Walls included, said no,
and Max goes on to right uniformly, I don't even
think they know why that's what this does. But again,
(38:27):
just really quick and I'll play Max's comments. Listen to
the way that Sidney Jordan describes what I just mentioned.
It is a federal government created tax credit scholarship program.
You opt in. The federal government provides the funding. Taxpayers
donate their own money to approve scholarship granting organizations and
then get a tax credit at the end of the year.
This has no impact on anybody else, doesn't impact you,
(38:51):
does it impact me. It only impacts the individual donating
the money up front, who ends up getting that back.
And then we get dollars from the federal government. And
yet listen to the lie that is spewed by Representative
Sidney Jordan.
Speaker 12 (39:05):
Good news and bad news from Minnesota's public schools. Let's
do the bad news first, Republicans in the legislature are
added again to bring private school vouchers to our estates.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
That's not what this is.
Speaker 12 (39:15):
And at a time when our public systems are being
attacked and defunded, my colleague, Representative Andrew Myers is fighting
for handouts to rich families who already send their kids
to private schools.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
You don't have to be rich to do this.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
You get that money back, the schools get the money.
They have absolutely no shame whatsoever, just lying straight to
your face. But to the broken and brainwashed on the left,
they'll grab the biggest spoon.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Possible and gulp down the lies.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Here's Max Rymer on the House floor talking about the
very issue as they were debating it.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
This bill forward.
Speaker 17 (39:53):
I think it's been said before but I just wanted
to clarify. Would this bill prevent an organization like Education
Minnesota from setting up an SGO, should they so choose?
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Represented Myers. Yeah, I don't believe it would. Representative Thank you,
mister chair.
Speaker 17 (40:10):
And then the follow up question, did you personally call
President Trump to orchestrate how this tax credit would work?
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Represented Meyer?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Yeah I thought so. I think your represented Myers.
Speaker 17 (40:26):
And you know, my predecessor and new Brindley said pretty
often got known for it that this is bonkers, and
this is bonkers what I'm hearing today, because this is
the framework by which we operate by I hear and
I've heard a lot of navel gazing about. I wish
(40:47):
the federal government did it this way. I wish the
federal government would prioritize this. Well, none of us have,
to my knowledge, President Trump's phone number to give him
a call and say, hey, I wish it would have worked.
This is the state level of framework by which we
have to work off of to get money not only
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into public schools, but any child who needs it. Right now,
we are putting children in this political battle that we're
trying to have that we have no control over It's
been said multiple times that this money is going out anyway,
so why would we not take advantage of it? And
then I've heard a number of times there's almost soft
(41:30):
bigotry of low expectations that our public schools cannot compete
for these dollars. Well, just in this very committee, tell
that to the to my teacher apprenticeship program in North Branch,
which was spearheaded by Representative Clarity and Representative Mueller, that
they have spun off a teacher apprenticeship program that is
remarkable a positives.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Briefly, I want to get to a few of your
comments from the iHeartRadio app. But again, all this is
you write a seventeen hundred dollars check to your school,
and you get that money back on your tax return,
and the school gets the money a dollar for dollar
federal tax credit. And if Minnesota doesn't opt in, those
dollars go someplace else. And yet you had Sidney Jordan
(42:15):
in that piece complaining about schools being underfunded. This is
a possibility to give schools thousands of dollars, and they
would rather lie than to allow what they view as
any GOP proposal move forward.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Hey, John Bruce, Shackby.
Speaker 11 (42:33):
You know what's really funny how she talks about getting
rich people the ability to send their kids to private
schools that are already going there. Well, they had no
qualms about giving rich kids free meals at breakfasts and
lunch and schools.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
What's changed. Have a good day.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah, there's plenty of rich families out there that can absolutely,
absolutely afford to feed their kids in schools, and yet
they too enjoyed the free school meals program as well.
Speaker 18 (43:04):
I just can't listen to this lady talk about public schools.
There's a reason that people want to send their kids
to private school. You don't learn anything in public school anymore.
We throw all this money at it, and it does
nothing to help our kids.
Speaker 19 (43:23):
I'd like to tell that idiot that just viewed that
crap for thirty seconds.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yeah, I am not rich.
Speaker 19 (43:28):
We're not rich.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
We put our.
Speaker 19 (43:30):
Kids through private school because our public schools were so crappy.
That and we struggle to do that while still paying
our taxes to fund those crappy schools. So she can
shove us.
Speaker 13 (43:44):
This is Tim from Blaine. The reason that Democrats don't
want us to have that school grand thing is because
then kids will get put in private schools and they
won't build and document them and make them hate America.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Like yep, here's more from Max Rymer. And tell that
to the kids.
Speaker 17 (44:03):
Who do the door knocking with Domino's cards to raise
program funds for their wrestling team. This idea that public
schools cannot compete, or that somehow private schools are going
to monopolize this process, I don't believe it, because I
have some plenty of organization from our public schools, even
(44:24):
at this capital. The last thing I'll say is that
in Forest Lake we have Lakes International Language Academy, and
a lot of my constituents kids go to that school,
and it's a wonderful school.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
I think a few of you are familiar with it,
and I.
Speaker 17 (44:40):
Think it needs to be said that these charter schools
are also public schools, but they don't have levy authority.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
So what could money if they.
Speaker 17 (44:47):
Choose to get organized, spin up an sgo what money?
What difference could this money make in a situation like that.
We're talking about property poor districts, We're talking about no
levy authority, We're talking about still public school support for
these children. This is a critical moment, and I think
people look at us down at the Capitol and are
(45:09):
oftentimes like, why can't you Why can't you guys do
common sense things? And what could be more common sense
than this to say, the money's getting spent anyway, we.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Should have a piece of that pie.
Speaker 17 (45:21):
That should not be sent to Colorado, that money should
not be sent to Virginia, that money should stay here.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
I agree with a lot of.
Speaker 17 (45:30):
The comments that have been made before that either collectively
we're misunderstanding this bill or there's been misrepresentation. But to me,
this seems like unless you have Representative Meyers, Donald Trump's
phone number, we can call him right now. This seems
like the common sense thing to do.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
Thank you. No, it's complete.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
It is complete misrepresentation, all because it's being proposed by Republicans,
even though Democrats can go and take advantage of this
as well, and the goal to talk about money being spent,
rich individuals being you know, are the only ones taking
advantage of this. Any Democrat talking about fiscal responsibility can
(46:10):
simply just shove it.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
I'll give you the examples. Coming up.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
A new bill proposes a constitutional sales tax hike to
fund affordability. This is beyond the already enacted tax hike.
In twenty twenty three, you have forty million dollars being
proposed in rental assistant bailouts. Wait until you hear what
the Minnesota Chamber of Commerce has to say about the
(46:35):
businesses that have been dealing with two and a half
months of paid family medical leave, the vehicle tabs being quintupled.
Governor Tim Walls wants to spend upwards of sixty five million,
one hundred million dollars on his new fraud cover up program,
(46:55):
and they're talking about fiscal responsibility. Our three comes up
in just a moment, and more of your talkbacks as
well here on Twin City's News Talk.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
Good Morning, John.
Speaker 11 (47:04):
In response to the legislator's statements on.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Having to be rich to go to a private school,
that's not true.
Speaker 6 (47:16):
I was one of five kids who was sent to
private school, and my parents did so on a
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Very limited income, and they did so because they knew
how important that education would be for us in the future.
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