March 6, 2026 • 45 mins
Tom Emmer joins to discuss the latest headlines out of Washington, including Emmer's perspective on Operation Epic Fury. Jon is joined in studio by Kathryn Johnson, Grace Keating, and AK Kamara where the convo is focused on Epic Fury, an in-depth look at fraud in MN, and the questionable actions of a local reporter.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:11):
A Freedom Friday. We have our guests making their way upstairs.
Grace Keating, Catherine Johnson from Center of the American Experiment
RNC Committee, been Akkamara will be joining us coming up
just after seven thirty. Very pleased to welcome to the show.
Lots to talk about. Representative Tom Emmer. Good morning, Tom.
How are we doing this morning?
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Sir?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Doing great?
Speaker 6 (00:32):
John doing great.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's a good Friday.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Let's I haven't had a chance to provide any updates
yet on Operation Epic Fury. I want to ask you
a little bit about this before we talk about the
committee hearing that took place earlier this week and testimony
from both Attorney General Keith Ellison and Governor Tim Walls.
But first off, you know we've had a lot of
success with Operation Epic Fury. The President has made it
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known he does not want this to go on a
protracted length of time. I've been incredibly impressed Tom, with
the leadership, including an especially Secretary of War Pete Hegseth.
But your thoughts on the operation so far, and how
much knowledge did you expect this to happen when the operation.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Started last week?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
John, Sorry, I'm walking into the office, so I came
into a quiet place. Yes, obviously they were. The President
makes it clear, and he's been very clear he wants peace.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
This is a president of peace.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
But if you are not going to be willing to
do what it takes to reach a peaceful existence, then
he's going to take action. And he was starting to
build up forces. The Secretary of War and the President
were starting to build up our forces, our assets in
the region. Look, this is the chief sponsor of terrorism
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in the world. They have killed more Americans over the
last many years, I think since the early two thousands
than any of the terrorist groups combined. John, I've been
more than impressed with what they're doing. And it wasn't
a surprise the President didn't do what he's supposed to do,
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which has advised the Gang of Eight before actually commencing
this very narrow, very focused military action, which is essentially
to knock out any offensive capabilities that the chief sponsor
of terrorism, the awful regime of Atola Committee I could
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inflict on the United States homeland, United States, military installations,
any US interests, And you're right, it's been incredibly successful
and Pete Hegseth has proven him to be one heck
of a leader.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
You know, Tom, you obviously know a lot more about
this than I do, being the House Majority Whip. I
have a clip that I'll share coming up after our
conversation CNN having to admit that Donald Trump is actually
more popular among Republicans now at this point in his
presidency than any other president before him. And for me personally, Tom,
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I'm incredibly proud of our country right now doing the
right thing relating to Operation Epic Fury, and I want
to tell you, for me, the winning strategy for the
GOP heading into the midterms is one a successful mission
with Operation Epic Fury, and then two passing the Save
America Act. I think that one to those two success
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stories could be the exactly what the Republicans need to
drive individuals out to vote for the GOP. Coming up
later on this year, your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
On that, well, First, I totally agree with you on
the Republican Party. The polling leaves out something really important.
I think he's more popular with independent voters or people
who consider themselves independents that actually decide elections.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
I think he's more popular than any president in.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Recent memory, including my favorite Ronald Reagan, because he makes decisions,
he's very clear, he runs on specific things, he makes promises,
and then he actually takes action to.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Keep those promises. John, That's what matters.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And when you talk about the Save America Act, this
thing needs to be law, and it's not about turning
people out. It's about making sure that our elections are
not only open to everyone, but that they are fair
and honest. It's an integrity measure to make sure only
US citizens who.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Are supposed to be voting are in fact the ones
casting a ballot.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Minnesota has created all kinds of questions by not releasing
voter data from the last several elections, refusing to provide
that to the federal government. It just causes people more concerned, John,
with the integrity of the electoral process. They certainly should
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be able to release anything and everything unless they have
something to hide. And that's why they Save America Act
is even more important today than it was yesterday.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
John.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
So I agree with you that this is a common
sense approach that ninety percent of Americans agree a photo
identification is a reasonable requirement for someone to cast a ballot.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
So we had another House Committee hearing, this time on
Minnesota fraud. Governor Tim Walls and Attorney General Keith Ellison
both testifying. We played a couple of clips from you yesterday,
Representative Tom Emmer from that committee hearing.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
We've talked a lot about this in the past.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I won't go over old old ground regarding how these
committee hearings are conducted, but I do I do want
to know what are your biggest takeaways and do you
think that the hearing results were or what you were
looking for and what those congressional members, those GOP members
of Congress were hoping for earlier this week.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Well, for me, it was an opportunity to try and
get our failed governor, our in company governor, dishonest governor
on the record and our dishonest attorney general on the
record as to when they knew, what they knew, and
what they did about it. And John it was pretty
interesting that I was asking those questions, and.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
I told the chairman right towards the.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
End of my questioning that if these guys will not
answer these very important questions when they knew and what
they did about it, then they need to be called
back and imposed under oath.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Very interesting, John.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
After that was done, the Oversight Committee released a bombshell
report but confirms what a lot of us have already
been thinking that Tim Walls and Keith Ellison knew about
them Feeding Our Future fraud for much longer than they claim.
In fact, the Assistant commissioner of the Minnesota Department of
Education stated that both the governors and the AG's offices
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were notified about concerns surrounding Feeding our Future's legitimacy as
early as April of twenty twenty John.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
That's a year and a half.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Before Keith Ellison actually offered to help the now convicted
Somali fraudsters in that recorded December twenty twenty one meeting.
That report also reveals more evidence that the Minnesota Department
of Education was being.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Pressured to continue making payments.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
By Keith Ellison at all to Feeding Our Future out
of fear of accusations of racism, something that Ellison fed into.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
The meeting during the twenty one meeting with the Somali fraudsters.
And if you want to know how serious.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Democrats are on this fraud issue. John, take a look
at the report. It's about fifty some pages long. During
those transcribed interviews that are listed or shown in that
report revealed Republican staff ask questions for over a combined
total of thirty six hours.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
And forty six minutes.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Guess what, Democrat staff just.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
A little over three hours.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
It just goes to show you how seriously the Democrat
Party is taking the fraud crisis in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Representative Tom Emmer, I know you're busy this morning. I
just want to ask you one more, one more quick question.
I've already received this from a few individuals today and
certainly heard a lot when we were covering the hearing
on yesterday's show. But you know a lot of individuals
they see the value in the questioning and the exchanges
being done in committee hearings like this. With what you
mentioned too, that Ellison and Walls were aware of the
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fraud and basically turned to blind eye, Well, what do
you say to individuals who are of the opinion that
there will be no accountability?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Is there accountability coming for the actions.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Of the DFL leadership because of this fraud here in Minnesota?
Speaker 7 (09:04):
On?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Tom?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
What and this is the question I get all the time.
In fact, I've been getting it for years. We're held
to a certain standard out here in Main Street, USA,
and these elected officials seem to get a double standard. Look,
Keith Ellison and Tim Walls did exactly what they've been
doing since Minnesota fraud becoming became a national news story.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
They deflect and they deny.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Was I surprised that Ellison refused to answer my questions?
He's clearly got something to Hi, John, and I agree
with Minnesota citizens on this, and I do believe there
will be accountability if it is true that he actively
obstructed the feeding our future fraud investigation in exchange for
campaign donations. This is what Betty McCollum got all flustered
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about at the hearing and now wants to sweep under
the rug if that's true, and everything right now is
pointing to that, as the audio tape of his December
twenty twenty one meetings sig yes, he not only needs
to be this far, John, Keith Ellison needs to.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Go to jail all right.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
People need to be held accountable period.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Representative Tom Emmer, as always, it's a fantastic to speak
with you. I'm sorry that your weather is making way
for spring, but you and I both know that winner
will be right back around the corner.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
So well, we'll have our three months.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Thank you for the thank you for the time, and
hopefully we have a chance to talk again next week.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Look forward to john have a good weekend.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
All right, coming up, we'll talk with our in studio guest,
Katherine Johnson is making her way upstairs. I see Grace Keating.
She's already sitting right across from me corning Grace, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Are you doing this morning? Good welcome to the new studio.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
Oh my gosh, thank you. Yeah, it took me a
minute to find the on button for the mic, but
I got it now.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Well, good to see you and thanks for coming in today.
I know we had a bit of a change because
Max Rammer wasn't going to be able to make it in.
Catherine's on her way up as well, and ak Kamara
will be here for those wondering. I do have a
better chair for Aka over in the corner than last week.
He had to sit almost on the floor last time,
so I was able to track down on a better share.
There's a lot of people that were curious about it,
so coming up. I have a wild story. Scott Johnson,
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friend of the show, writes for power Line. US attorney
Integer interrogated at contempt to hearing over illegal aliens missing property.
The details of the illegal aliens missing property is already
worthy to go and share with you. But there's a
side story relating to CBS and ASMI Murphy talking about
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individuals who may be in contempt of court. I'll give
you the details next and we'll get to your comments
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Nobody puts ak in the corner.
Speaker 9 (11:58):
Sorry I had to.
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Well, it's not like it's kind of corner of the console,
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I do see you got him a new chair.
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That's nice of you.
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Speaker 2 (12:34):
Grace Keating, Good morning, guys. I was mentally already on
a plane.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
I am not in Minnesota mentally right now.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You're going on vacation.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
In about twenty four hours.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
I will be sitting at the airport, and I mentally
I'm there already.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
She actually brought a clock with her and it's counting
down right now. It's got a couple of different markers.
One's nine o'clock when the show is over. She's I
got that done, and then the rest of it is
when she's getting ready to go to the airport. And
also Catherine Johnson has joined us in studio. You're gonna
be leaving next week too, so neither of you guys
are gonna be here. So I really next week, so
I really need to take advantage of the both of
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you this morning, and that sounded horrible.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
So get in.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
I'm gonna walk right past that.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
So good to.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
See you guys this morning. Thanks so much for coming in.
How does it feel to be a war? I've been
curious to ask you guys with Operation Epic Fury, I
don't like to put it like that.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
What are your thoughts of, Oh, we we are.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I mean there's war, there's warring going on strike, but
but but they're lobbying stuff back super successfully.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
No.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
I do find it really amusing with Operation Epic Fury
that we we do these targeted strikes trying to take
out the tyrannical regime over there, and then the response
from Iran is to basically just attack everybody. Yes, they've
just they've just if you follow any of this or
monitored the situation as I have been doing, have you
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has your have your significant others been monitoring the situation?
Speaker 7 (14:00):
And I'm kind of the resident situation you're.
Speaker 10 (14:02):
The resident situation monitor. Yeah, I'll sitter like and what
I don't remember what happened. Oh, I was at a
car dealership when this, really I was happened to be
bringing my car in the morning after this really popped off,
and I was there for two.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
Hours, like multiple screens.
Speaker 10 (14:15):
Practically just monitoring the situation.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
So I'm good at that.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I will say, Okay, are you is Hunter monitoring the situation?
Speaker 7 (14:22):
I have to be honest.
Speaker 8 (14:23):
Hunter is also mentally in Italy right now, I feel
so neither.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Of us are monitoring.
Speaker 8 (14:29):
The treating house is undefended and unmonitored.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
The only monitoring of any situations is one detailing your
trip to Italy, praying out loud.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
I have my priority straight.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I'm sorry situation that we're monitoring right now. No, But
if you aren't monitoring the situation and you just follow
throughout the day, you see that Iran is just like yeah,
we're gonna fire some over at Cutter, or we're gonna
fire some over into a rock and more into Saudi Arabia,
and it's like like avoiding all of of our guys
while we continue to bomb them.
Speaker 10 (15:02):
So right, I mean, and overall, I'm kind of I
think I'm mostly happy with it. I obviously, like a
lot of conservatives was, I was very hesitant when I
heard that we were bombing Iran. But I do trust
Donald Trump. I think his foreign policy record is incredible,
and so that's what I have to keep reminding myself.
We don't know yet if it's going to be some
prolonged venture, and I hope it isn't, but so far
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it's been extremely successful, So I'm pretty positive about it overall.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I am. I like the resolve.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I mean, that's been my thought from the get go.
You know, the problem one of the biggest issue that
one of the biggest issues that we have with Washington,
d C. In Congress is the lack of the will
and desire to go and do the right thing, whether
it is you know, military action like we're taking to
end this regime, to protect our allies, to bring peace
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to a region as best we can right whether it's
the resolve to actually go and secure the border after
the four years of President and Joe Biden, the resolve
to continue to deport individuals here, the resolve to remove
people who may not be the best individuals to run
certain departments. With Christine Noman, we'll talk about this coming up.
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It is certainly a shift in mentality over the course
of presidencies, and even a massive shift.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
From Trump's first term.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
To be honest, wherein I think he was still new,
a lot of holdovers from the previous administration, and what
we're seeing with Operation Epic Fury, in my opinion, is
a direct result of him not winning a consecutive second term,
you know, having lost, having the time off, winning again
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and knowing I have the opportunity now to do what
I didn't think I probably was going to be able
to do and have a second term. I need to
take advantage of it, cement my legacy, and that's exactly what.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
He is attempting to go and to go and do.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
Yeah, that's a very fair take.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
I feel like it's that attitude of finally being empowered
to do the things that should have been done years ago,
whether it's Venezuela or Iran, like someone needed to be
the adult in the situation and go in and just
take out the bad guys in the world.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (17:09):
I'm a firm believer in peace through strength. I think
a lot of us are. But if you're never strong,
it does doesn't really work. We have to keep our
place in the world as being this strong country that
is willing to strike if need be, and so I
think this is a pretty good example of it, because
certainly it was well deserved by Iran. Certainly, we have
had a series of weak presidents on foreign policy.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
We have.
Speaker 10 (17:32):
I mean, we were handing cash to Iran under Obama.
So look, yeah, let's make a point that we're it's
not like that anymore.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Well, and the last thing I want to say on
this before we move over back to some to some
local issues is and it's something that I said at
the onset of Operation Epic Fury, and that is Trump
is doing this regardless of the electoral calculus, regardless of
the electoral outcome. Right, He's like, he's not looking at
this through lens and there's an argument to be made
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that maybe he should. But in my for me personally,
you know, doing the right thing means just going and
doing the right thing and not looking at this through well,
what is the.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Polling going to be? And how are.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Democrats going to go and spin this and what does
it mean for the midterms. It's like, you know what,
I'm very much believe that God is in control. He'll
go and figure that out. But let's go and do
what's right and not look at what the unintended consequences
beyond the actions of what we're doing. From a political
from a political standpoint.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
I was thinking that on the way in this morning.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
Actually, it feels like he's learned or decided with this
second term that.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
You know, Republicans can win, can go.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
Up against the institutions in place, whether that's higher ed
or the media or the dear you know, the Democrats,
and they can. You know, going up against these these
institutions of power does not mean you're going to lose,
and it doesn't mean that you're even going to lose
in the court of public opinion with the American people.
Like at a certain point, people stop caring about the
outrage that out from those sources anytime a Republican does anything.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
And I think that it's really refreshing.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
Again, We've said this throughout all of Trump's presidency to
see that kind of I don't care attitude like you
were saying, I'm going to go in and do the
right thing regardless, and I trust the American people are
going to see the outcomes the effects of that, and
you know, give me some trust and grace along the way.
Speaker 11 (19:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (19:18):
And I just wish that the senators we have right
now in Congress who are refusing to do something about
the Save Act would have the same kind of resolve.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
I mean, I'm a lot of people are blaming.
Speaker 10 (19:29):
Trump for that. I don't think there's much to blame Trump.
I think, you know, what is he going to do?
It's the Senators right now that are really refusing to
do what they need to do, and that is what
really grinds my gears.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Yeah, we have an issue right now with the Republicans
in the Senate and they need to go and figure
this out. I told this to Tom. I've said this
many times on the show. And as a matter of fact,
before I make this comment, let me play this clip.
I've been holding onto this. This is the CNN having
to admit and I permally believe that it's exactly what
the three of us have been talking about now, that
resolve of President Donald Trump that is leading towards the
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positive outlook of Republicans over this administration.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
As CNN was forced to go and admit.
Speaker 12 (20:06):
This, Republicans love Donald Trump more than any president's own
party supporters loved them at this particular point. Just take
a look here, okay, own party supporters twenty first century
president's own party approval about at this point the second term,
Bush was at seventy seven percent. Obama was at seventy
seven percent. Look at this, eighty six percent of Republicans
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approve of the job that Donald Trump is doing at
this point. That is higher than either Obama or Bush
had within their own party at this point. Trump's magic
touch has not seen the war off yet when it
comes to the Republican base, and.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
We'll count to the point that you made earlier, that
will remain as long as this is not a protracted fight.
We as Americans love blowing stuff up. We do. We
like to blow stuff up, and we definitely like it
when we push back.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
On bullies, especially Republicans.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
And so right now there's a lot of positivity attached
to it as long as this remains precise and there
is a mission and they succeed with that mission. And
coupled with that, as I've been saying, you have a
successful Operation Epic Fury, and then you back that up
with the past Save America, you know, the Save America Act.
That is your winning message for the mid terms later
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on this year.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
You just have to trust that he at least understands
that Americans want something limited in scope and duration, very targeted,
not a full out war. Just go like I mean again,
like getting Maduro out of Venezuela. Go in, get the
job done, get out, and don't waste American lives over
in another war that.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
At the end of the day, that does not have
anything to do with us.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Coming up, Scott Johnson from power Line has a peace
out and I have some audio to share. The US
attorney and interrogated a contempt hearing over illegal aliens missing property.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Wait until you hear what is.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Being described and what is being used as the missing
property what they say is missing property. It was funny
because I asked both Caine and Grace if they were
aware of the story, and they were. And immediately Catherine,
you were like, did you mention the the one thing
that was missing?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I said yes.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
We're actually absolutely going to get into that, including speaking
of contempt of court. One as me Murphy might have
actually been in contempt of court. We'll explain. Ak Kamar
will be joining us in just a few minutes as
well on a Freedom Friday, and of course we'll hear
from you in the iHeartRadio app with your on and
off topic comments all morning long.
Speaker 9 (22:22):
Great show, John always good to listen to. The Friday
fun fest. That's it. I don't have anything philosophical or
facetious at the back of the day, but I'm just
wondering what Monday show topic is.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Kind of like you're getting way ahead of yourself. I'm
not even I'm only it's only seven thirty right now.
Enjoy your weekend seriously. Yeah, I'm I gotcha, But I
am glad that you're looking forward to to Monday as well.
All right, one more, we'll take a quick break here
on Swin City's News Talking.
Speaker 13 (22:49):
John we just had four years of a president who
didn't have the resolve to stay awake the whole day.
Speaker 11 (23:00):
Best pod awaken Up is no Indramala Last Trum.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's a Freedom Friday.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
On Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty one O
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Speaker 2 (23:16):
In studio.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Now we have Catherine Johnson and Grace Keening from the
American Experiment podcast.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Glad you guys can both be here this morning.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Delighted to be here, Ak.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Kamara, I'm sure he's very excited to get into his
well borrowed chair this morning. He'll be smiling making his
way up into the studio shortly, and of course we
will hear from you all morning long on the iHeartRadio
app on Freedom Friday.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
To sum up what Republicans want. What we want is
called consequence for stupid actions. Consequence. That's all. Thank you,
that's it.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
That's it, and hopefully we see that here in Minnesota.
Relating to all the fraud, which we'll get back to shortly.
I want to go here though, power Line blog friend
of the show at Scott Johnson. Haven't had him on
in a while. You need to bring him back on again.
Good guy, He writes this United States Attorney Daniel Rosen,
and he says, my longtime friend, don't look to me
for objectivity. I appreciate Scot Johnson being upfront. He says
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he was called to show cause why he should not
be held in contempt of court by Judge Jeffrey Bryan
of the Federal District Court here on Tuesday. Judge Brian's
show cause order is posted online for everybody to see.
You over at power Line and I'll say that I
have not talked about this all week long. I was
kind of waiting for everything to play out before I did.
But the local media has been making so much out
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of this. Every single day there is a lead story
about how, oh, Daniel Rosen being hauled into court for
contempt of court, what's going to happen? Judge says, he
is going to take out actions necessary, and I'm like,
you know what, I'm just going to wait to see
how this whole thing plays out.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
They got a sketch artist in there.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Like, he's a oh, come on, did they really.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Yes, they're sketching this every day.
Speaker 10 (24:56):
I don't know who's in charge of the sketch person,
but what the heck?
Speaker 7 (24:59):
He didn't murder. There's somebody didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Well, it's an extension of the Democrat's rampant desire to
perpetuate Operation Metro Surge and to just make as much
out of it as humanly as humanly possible. I mean,
it's borderline ridiculous at this point in time, especially when
you consider that it was all pretty much self inflicted.
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If you didn't have everybody, as I've said this so
many times, if you didn't have people out on the
streets obstructing, if they were just observing what Ice was doing.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Fine, but that wasn't what happened. We all know that
wasn't what happened.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
So with this also called the show cause where the
head of the United States Attorney's Civil Division, David Fuller,
and a representative of ICE who turned out to be
the deputy Regional director Tario rich Now. Judge Brian invoked
the prospect of Rosen being held in civil contempt and
fine for criminal contempt and jailed in a testy exchange
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near the onset of the hearing, Right Scott Johnson, the
prospect has elicited the interest of the press. Filled the
seventh floor courtroom in Saint Paul's warren Berger Federal Building
that Judge Brian used for the hearing. His own courtroom
and others on the third floor were out of commission apparently.
Scott says, I sat next to Esmey Murphy of CBS
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News in the first row of the courtroom.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
More on Esmey in due course.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
There's a lot of great details in what the judge
is doing here with Rosen, but it really is the
esme Murphy aspect of this that just takes the cake.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
He says.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
I found the hearing to be a surreal exercise. Judge
Brian began with an interrogation of Rosen regarding the premises
underlying the hearing. I wrote in my notes that it
was ordeal by humiliation. Now Dan was not humiliated, but
it seemed to me that that was the judge's intent.
Dan held his own and I believe ultimately got the
judge to back down from the prospect of criminal contempt
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and imprisonment. Their testy exchange. Testy was Judge Brian's word,
by the way, became more respectful after the judge called
a break out. Dan at all were to show why
they should not be held in contempt for violating court orders.
In twenty eight course habeas cases involving illegal aliens who've
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been arrested and held by Ice in the course of
Operation Metro Search, the personal property of the illegal aliens
was to have been returned and it's return documented. This
is where things get interesting.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Yeah, did they lose some important stuff? Maybe? Like I
can understand if you know, maybe.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It depends on your definition of important.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
They stole stuff from them or something.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
It must be really bad because they're threatening to jail.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Right, Like I'm thinking like a cell phone or a
really watch or I don't know.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Okay, okay, I'm not familiar with this.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Well, I'm so glad that you set cell phones and watches. Right, yeah,
well no, I'm just glad you set that baseline. I
think that's for somebody, no, no, no, for somebody who
is unfamiliar with the story. That's a very very good
baseline for us to work off of. Y you know,
because cell phones and watches, it could be a rolex,
very expensive.
Speaker 10 (27:58):
Things, maybe something like that.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Now, speaking of crucial things, R and C committeemann A K.
Kamara has now joined us in studio. As you see,
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Speaker 1 (28:08):
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Speaker 2 (28:09):
Is that better?
Speaker 6 (28:10):
Way?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Way better?
Speaker 5 (28:11):
I was actually wondering how could you make a chair better?
And you simply just make it that it doesn't make
you catapult up in the air.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
So I'm glad we got some great chair.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Unfortunately, there's somebody in the emergency room right now who's
I put that chair back into the studio, and unfortunately
it may have gone and bumped their head on the
ceiling and popping into that chair.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I wish you could see what this chair was like. Honestly,
like it was absurd.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
I'm devastated that.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
They were people asking, I mean, that was the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Ak is coming in, Did you get him a new chair.
It's like we did.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
Talk about the chair situation a lot.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Because the one guy wondering what the top he's going
to be on Monday, everybody else is going, I don't
care what are you guys talking about. It's gonna make
sure Ak is going a new chair.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
And what I love the most though, is that when
the guy's talking about like what they're gonna talk about
a Monday, he sounds like he's like in a tropical place,
whereas like birds singing in the background.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That was amazing.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
But I think it was because you shared that photo
of me that I look like I'm like a very
very small person.
Speaker 10 (29:13):
Yeah, you like so little, so little in that in
that photo.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
All right, getting back into this piece, US attorney interrogated
a contempt hearing over Elliglelien's missing property, Right, things like
watches or cell phones?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Ball it don't okay.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
So again, there's some one thousand habeas cases that have
been going on. Right, the federal district judges have been
riding the high horse in opposition to Ice. A case
pending before the Eighth Circuit should clarify whether they have
the jurisdiction to go and do so here, Right, By
the time of the hearing, the number of cases in
which Rosen was held to account.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Had been whittled down again.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
We had some one thousand habeas cases by the time
of the hearing that had been whittled down to twenty three.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Okay, now in the course of the hearing the number
was whittled down to five. One of the eighteen that
was involved involved a missing not a cell phone, grace,
not a watch, but a shoelace.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Boy, very expensive sho Was.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
It made out of gold?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yes, that's right, a shoelace. One know the rationale for
the shoelace? Do you already know?
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I have no idea story?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Okay, Catherine, you probably already you probably do? You know
the rationale for the I don't know. Okay, So the
rationale for the shoelace, and the concern was that it
it might be scraped for DNA tying him to a crime.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Oh well, okay, what is he sucking.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
On the shoelace?
Speaker 5 (30:49):
I mean, I mean, listen, he could have had like
a bloody hand or something and then he went to
tie his shod.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Okay, all right, that's a little bit better than me,
you know, having him put it in his mouth.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
I mean the fact that you would be concerned about
that means that you should be arrested right now and
we should hold you until we find out.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
I are you so.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Afraid of your DNA right being found on the shoelace?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Man no A.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Scott Johnson writes. He says that kid, you not.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Rosen agreed that if Ice found the shoelace, it would
be returned to the concerned illegal alien criminal without further ado.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
I mean some of these cases too, by the way
he listed some of the other ones, Like one of
them was the guy's lawyer hasn't come and gotten his
stuff yet.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
It's sitting at the place like it's ready to be
picked up.
Speaker 10 (31:32):
And he hasn't got it and picked it up, and
they were mad at him for that. What is he
supposed to do about that? These things are all absurd.
This is what every single illegal alien tried to do.
They filed a habeas petition and they thought that was
their get out of jail free card and they took
advantage of it.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
It's also frustrating how many of these people have filed
multiple habeas petitions like you can just go in apparently
and just keep trying, and you know, one one guy's
filed four petitions trying to just get released from ICE attention,
and you know, people keep say it only takes one.
It only takes one of these cases for this guy
to be let back out into civil society.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Now, the remaining five cases included one in which lost
property was a passport that was found after the petitioner's
release from ICE custody.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
At whippleed, Okay, yeah, I'd be concerned.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Yeah, well you would be because you're getting ready concern
because you're getting ready to go to Italy, So you need.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
That passport in mine so I can do without shoelaces.
I need my passboard.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
In the meantime, I says stated that they're not aware
of anything missing or lost. Now, another of the five
cases involved the passport. The passport was returned by track
US mail to the petitioner's attorney, but it hadn't been back.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
To the office to open the package. Again, I kid
you not.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
These two passport cases constituted two of the five over
which Judge Brian was deliberating a contempt order throwing him
in jail.
Speaker 10 (32:56):
Like that's literally what they're debating, throwing the lawyer in jail. Absurd.
It's beyond absurd. And this judge is a total goober.
I mean, you look him up and his entire record
is all about diversity. He spent his whole career talking
about diversity and that's his big thing in the law.
I don't care where your stance is on diversity.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 10 (33:17):
Just be a fair arbiter of the law as a judge,
that's your job. But clearly he has political motives and
it's just he's making a mockery of the court that
he's supposed to represent.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
What's so fascinating is that when you talked John that
there was a thousand habeas filings.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I think that all of.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
That is this, like you know, if you want to say,
I don't know, it's the left has completely adopted the
idea that law there is the way to go, because
I feel like he gives them some level of, I
don't know, just belief that our system works with people
on the right, and so if the court says something,
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those of us on the right or people that tend
to be on the right are like, well, that's that's
the court. They're fair, they're equal arbiters of justice. Turns
out that the left has been able to flood the
zone with all these awful judges. Just like you said,
when you look at what their motivations are, they don't
care about justice being blind. They believe that the system
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is broken, and they're trying to actually change the way
that justice is handled in this country on the basis
of your race. I mean, when you think about Mary
Moriarty and the fact that the Department of Justice and
Civil Rights Division had to sue her because she was saying, Oh,
if you're black or you're brown, we're going to give
you lighter sentences than if you're white. And it's like,
you can't do that. But that's what I think happens
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with these Habeas corpus, all of these cases, is they're
flooding the zone and all they want to do is
like say, if you're an illegal alien.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
You have these certain rights.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
And it's like, clearly the Constitution, clearly Supreme Court President
said no, you don't.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
If you don't enter through a legal.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Port of entry or you overseay a visa, you are
held to a different set of standards and you can't
just say nope, I get a trial.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
That's insane.
Speaker 8 (34:58):
And you look at the way America trust in institutions,
you know, like the courts, like media, like our system
of government has just plummeted in recent years. It's because
the Left has so carefully and insidiously and determinedly taken
over each of those institutions, and those things that were
supposed to be unbiased and trustworthy in our life no
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longer are. And that has serious ramifications for the way
society functions.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
If we can't trust anything in our life, what can't
we trust each other?
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I don't no well, and we unfortunately have not paid
close enough attention to win. These judges end up getting
into these positions, you know, when we have the opportunity
to vote for for judges.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
It's something that we just never get focused.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
It seems like every time an election rolls around, there'll
be some smattering of a talk about it, and then
you know, who wants to go and look up individuals.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
That are running for judge positions.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
But the truth of the matter is they're incredibly important
and you're you're seeing the reason why.
Speaker 10 (35:58):
Yeah, they're often unopposed to, so they just get they
get appointed and then technically they get re elected by
the people but they're most of the time, vast majority
of the time, they're unopposed, So it's really not fair.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
And I think that there's kind of two different ways
that we can actually make movement on reigning this end.
From a federal level, we should be able to have
some just very very simple, if you have this many
departures from the standard sentencing guidelines, you should have some
type of panel of impartial judges say like, what's going
on here? Does this person need to be practicing law anymore?
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And on the state level you can do the exact
same thing, and I think that will rein in the
judiciary because let's be very clear, if you want to
affect any societal changes, become a legislator, go and become
an elected politician. The purpose of the judiciary is to
settle arguments between people using impartial law, and that's what
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it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
So I think more and more people are.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Waking up, and I think that even in Minnesota state legislature,
there's been a couple I think it was maybe Walter
Hudson that was talking about this, or I don't know
exactly who was talking about a bill that they had
proposed to be able to.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Do exactly that.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
When it comes to having these wide, wide departures from
normal sentencing guidelines and always having a downward departure where
you're giving less and less and less time, you have
to be able to have someone that comes together and says,
what's going on with this judge.
Speaker 10 (37:23):
It's just frustrating that as conservatives who have morals and
want to stick to believing in the constitution, we get
faulted because the other side is willing to throw all
those things out the window and let in unlimited numbers
of illegal aliens.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
Nothing happens, and then when we.
Speaker 10 (37:36):
Try and solve the mess that they've created, we are
the ones that are accused of you know, contempt and
being threatened to be.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
Thrown in jail.
Speaker 8 (37:44):
Well, and we have to get a grip on the
higher education system because conservatives can say all day long,
you know, you don't need to for your degree to
have a great career, have a great life, and oh
you can go to these you know, more conservative patriotic
colleges around the country, But people like judges and lawyers
are still going into these higher institutions, these universities that
are still so so full of you know, leftist indoctrination,
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and we can't turn our back in those institutions because
those are the people running our court.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Still, I want to go to the iHeartRadio app your
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Speaker 9 (38:16):
Maybe that judge was thinking that the guy who owns
the shoelace was doing that lost dance with it.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Oh maybe?
Speaker 5 (38:26):
Ah, oh, thank you for the visualization.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
No, yeah, not really the image that I that I
wanted there, so.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Like any of that. During the morning portion of the hearing.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Scott Johnson goes on to say, I sat next to
Asmi Murphy. I have written about her many times, says
Scott on power Line. She is one of the intensely
partisan left wing journalists working the most intensely partisan left
wing journalists, so working the local political scene. At the
lunch break, she caught up with Dan Dan Rose the
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guys trying to be held in contempts to get a
comment from him on the judges threat to imprison him.
She apparently wanted to save or what I call the
judges ordeal by humiliation.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Dan wasn't humiliated, He didn't bite. He basically laughed off.
Speaker 14 (39:17):
The cameraman or honestly eyes made while we're during the
during the hearing.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I'm not going to make make comments. I'm not gonna
make comments on.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
The record while we're in the middle of the hearing,
as man.
Speaker 14 (39:29):
But thanks for the questions. If you can ask me anything,
I'll star. I mean, you can perhaps talk about it imprisonment.
I'm gonna stick with what I said. I'm not gonna
make any comments while the while the hearing is in process.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
I think her son just got a gig. Didn't he
just get a gig over there? I thought I had.
I thought I had. I thought I had read that,
which wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, in the least bit he did.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
But here's the thing about Esme Murphy when you like,
I don't follow her on x but every once in
a while, so I of a post that goes viral,
so it comes across my feed, and she had this
one as an example. It was just a picture of
some coffee in a poorly lit like I don't know
these uh samosas or whatever they're called. And her posts
got some somosas and an ice Somali coffee for the
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ride back to the station, Like She literally will post
garbage like that when we were in the height of
talking about Somali fraud as her way to like, here's
my flag of support for the Somali community. It has
like one hundred and fifty thousand impressions. And the thing
about Esme, I went on her show one time, right,
and I caught her so far off guard because I
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watched a couple of, you know, interviews that she did beforehand.
And what she does is when she has Republicans on
or people on the right, she will preframe the question
with a false narrative that I already disagree with or
we already disagree with, so then you're forced to have
to answer from her stupid position. She did that to me,
and I went back and I was like, well, I
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fundamentally just agree with the premise here question, And then
I broke down.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Why I did, and she was so flustered.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
It's funny go find the clip, just as may Murphy
ak Kamara, and.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
She like is like fumbling over herself.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
But because she was telling she was trying to set
up the premise that Donald Trump is a racist, So
why is it the like thirty percent of black males
we're going to support him, and I'm like, well, he
literally isn't racist. He's been loved by the black community,
whether you're talking about Jesse Jackson, whether you're talking about
Oprah Winfrey. And she was like, well, well that was
back when he was a Democrat, and I was like,
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thank you, exactly.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
That's the whole point.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
It's not because he's racist, it's because he's a Republican.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
It's an incredibly effective tactic that Democrats use where they
basically they set up their own premise and you know
this is this is this is their truth as they
know it, and now you must respond based off of
their truth. So this is where things got really interesting.
Speaking now, this whole thing was about holding this attorney
in contempt of court, okay, And I want to mention
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too that we do I just want to make sure
that we are clear when it comes to the judges.
You have your judges that are appointed at the federal level,
and then we have our local judges that are elected
at the local level. That's what I was referring to earlier,
relating to how we need to focus on those judges
as well. And we typically during the election cycle don't
know who most of these individuals are so, as Scott
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Johnson writes, he says, Esmey did not make it back
into the courtroom for the rest of the hearing. Now
you go back to the beginning of the piece, and
Scott Johnson was there at the front of the group
of the press corps in the room itself in the courtroom,
so he was there along with other journalists, and asmy
Murphy so, esme did not make it back into the
courtroom for the rest of the hearing after lunch, I
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understand that she had left her phone on the first
row bench where we had been sitting during the morning.
As credentialed members of the press, we are allowed to
bring our devices into the courtroom, but under prohibition, we
can't use them to record or photograph inside the courthouse.
In fact, the US Marshall reminded us of that prohibition
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that morning. However, Murphy's abandoned phone was picked up during
the break and found to be recording. I was told,
says Scott Johnson, the court yanked her press credential credentials
and sent her packing. And he ends with this, and
it's completely appropriate. Talk about contempt.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
That's fun. That's so fun.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Justice rules for the for the but not for me.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
Yeah, and that's what Asme Murphy and all of these
you know journalists that pretend that they don't have a bias,
Like I don't have a problem that Esme Murphy's a leftist.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Just don't say that you're not. That's always been my problem.
Don't pretend that you're not. Like, no, I'm a fair
and you know, impartial, arbiter of the truth and.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
I'm just trying to get to the bombing story.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
It's like, Esme Murphy is one of the most leftist
journalists that we have, and it's like she tries to
hide it and it's absurd.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Just be yourself as man.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
I promise you you'll be so much happier when you
just let everyone know that you are a deranged, died
in the wall leftist.
Speaker 4 (44:07):
Well, I've had people come, you know, come at me
in the past. It hasn't happened in a long time,
and I go, well, you're biased, and I'm like, well,
get dug, I'm a conservative news talk show host. What
do you expect. There's a difference when you're talking to
somebody who's working for a news organization that is supposed
to remain impartial to what's happening happening, But if you're
not going to, then just be honest about it, because
you're not fooling anybody, right, including the majority of the
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people that will watch your or listen to your commentary.
They know you're biased. Yes, just be honest about it,
all right. Coming up, we're gonna get an update on
the legislative session, including one one Representative who and I'll
share the audio comeing up in just a moment. You know,
you hear things and you go, did they really go
and say that? I have two clips. I have one
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from Representative Dave Pinto. I have another one from Athena Hollins.
It's the Pinto one where he actually suggests that maybe
we should study the benefits of shoplifting and retail theft.
The benefits, Yes, because you see grace, people who go
and conduct shoplifting and retail theft, they may be benefiting
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from this, and so because it's a benefit to them,
then we should be really examining whether or not, you know,
they're benefiting from retail shoplifting and theft.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
You know, should.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Be looked at and perhaps a lesser harsher light.
Speaker 7 (45:29):
No, that's incredible. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah, we have the audio to share. We'll get to
it coming up.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
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A Freedom Friday. We have our guests making their way upstairs.
Grace Keating, Catherine Johnson from Center of the American Experiment
RNC Committee, been Akkamara will be joining us coming up
just after seven thirty. Very pleased to welcome to the show.
Lots to talk about. Representative Tom Emmer. Good morning, Tom.
How are we doing this morning?
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Sir?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Doing great?
Speaker 6 (00:32):
John doing great.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's a good Friday.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Let's I haven't had a chance to provide any updates
yet on Operation Epic Fury. I want to ask you
a little bit about this before we talk about the
committee hearing that took place earlier this week and testimony
from both Attorney General Keith Ellison and Governor Tim Walls.
But first off, you know we've had a lot of
success with Operation Epic Fury. The President has made it
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known he does not want this to go on a
protracted length of time. I've been incredibly impressed Tom, with
the leadership, including an especially Secretary of War Pete Hegseth.
But your thoughts on the operation so far, and how
much knowledge did you expect this to happen when the operation.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Started last week?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
John, Sorry, I'm walking into the office, so I came
into a quiet place. Yes, obviously they were. The President
makes it clear, and he's been very clear he wants peace.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
This is a president of peace.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
But if you are not going to be willing to
do what it takes to reach a peaceful existence, then
he's going to take action. And he was starting to
build up forces. The Secretary of War and the President
were starting to build up our forces, our assets in
the region. Look, this is the chief sponsor of terrorism
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in the world. They have killed more Americans over the
last many years, I think since the early two thousands
than any of the terrorist groups combined. John, I've been
more than impressed with what they're doing. And it wasn't
a surprise the President didn't do what he's supposed to do,
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which has advised the Gang of Eight before actually commencing
this very narrow, very focused military action, which is essentially
to knock out any offensive capabilities that the chief sponsor
of terrorism, the awful regime of Atola Committee I could
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inflict on the United States homeland, United States, military installations,
any US interests, And you're right, it's been incredibly successful
and Pete Hegseth has proven him to be one heck
of a leader.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
You know, Tom, you obviously know a lot more about
this than I do, being the House Majority Whip. I
have a clip that I'll share coming up after our
conversation CNN having to admit that Donald Trump is actually
more popular among Republicans now at this point in his
presidency than any other president before him. And for me personally, Tom,
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I'm incredibly proud of our country right now doing the
right thing relating to Operation Epic Fury, and I want
to tell you, for me, the winning strategy for the
GOP heading into the midterms is one a successful mission
with Operation Epic Fury, and then two passing the Save
America Act. I think that one to those two success
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stories could be the exactly what the Republicans need to
drive individuals out to vote for the GOP. Coming up
later on this year, your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
On that, well, First, I totally agree with you on
the Republican Party. The polling leaves out something really important.
I think he's more popular with independent voters or people
who consider themselves independents that actually decide elections.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
I think he's more popular than any president in.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Recent memory, including my favorite Ronald Reagan, because he makes decisions,
he's very clear, he runs on specific things, he makes promises,
and then he actually takes action to.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Keep those promises. John, That's what matters.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And when you talk about the Save America Act, this
thing needs to be law, and it's not about turning
people out. It's about making sure that our elections are
not only open to everyone, but that they are fair
and honest. It's an integrity measure to make sure only
US citizens who.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Are supposed to be voting are in fact the ones
casting a ballot.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Minnesota has created all kinds of questions by not releasing
voter data from the last several elections, refusing to provide
that to the federal government. It just causes people more concerned, John,
with the integrity of the electoral process. They certainly should
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be able to release anything and everything unless they have
something to hide. And that's why they Save America Act
is even more important today than it was yesterday.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
John.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
So I agree with you that this is a common
sense approach that ninety percent of Americans agree a photo
identification is a reasonable requirement for someone to cast a ballot.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
So we had another House Committee hearing, this time on
Minnesota fraud. Governor Tim Walls and Attorney General Keith Ellison
both testifying. We played a couple of clips from you yesterday,
Representative Tom Emmer from that committee hearing.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
We've talked a lot about this in the past.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I won't go over old old ground regarding how these
committee hearings are conducted, but I do I do want
to know what are your biggest takeaways and do you
think that the hearing results were or what you were
looking for and what those congressional members, those GOP members
of Congress were hoping for earlier this week.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Well, for me, it was an opportunity to try and
get our failed governor, our in company governor, dishonest governor
on the record and our dishonest attorney general on the
record as to when they knew, what they knew, and
what they did about it. And John it was pretty
interesting that I was asking those questions, and.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
I told the chairman right towards the.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
End of my questioning that if these guys will not
answer these very important questions when they knew and what
they did about it, then they need to be called
back and imposed under oath.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Very interesting, John.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
After that was done, the Oversight Committee released a bombshell
report but confirms what a lot of us have already
been thinking that Tim Walls and Keith Ellison knew about
them Feeding Our Future fraud for much longer than they claim.
In fact, the Assistant commissioner of the Minnesota Department of
Education stated that both the governors and the AG's offices
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were notified about concerns surrounding Feeding our Future's legitimacy as
early as April of twenty twenty John.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
That's a year and a half.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Before Keith Ellison actually offered to help the now convicted
Somali fraudsters in that recorded December twenty twenty one meeting.
That report also reveals more evidence that the Minnesota Department
of Education was being.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Pressured to continue making payments.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
By Keith Ellison at all to Feeding Our Future out
of fear of accusations of racism, something that Ellison fed into.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
The meeting during the twenty one meeting with the Somali fraudsters.
And if you want to know how serious.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Democrats are on this fraud issue. John, take a look
at the report. It's about fifty some pages long. During
those transcribed interviews that are listed or shown in that
report revealed Republican staff ask questions for over a combined
total of thirty six hours.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
And forty six minutes.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Guess what, Democrat staff just.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
A little over three hours.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
It just goes to show you how seriously the Democrat
Party is taking the fraud crisis in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Representative Tom Emmer, I know you're busy this morning. I
just want to ask you one more, one more quick question.
I've already received this from a few individuals today and
certainly heard a lot when we were covering the hearing
on yesterday's show. But you know a lot of individuals
they see the value in the questioning and the exchanges
being done in committee hearings like this. With what you
mentioned too, that Ellison and Walls were aware of the
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fraud and basically turned to blind eye, Well, what do
you say to individuals who are of the opinion that
there will be no accountability?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Is there accountability coming for the actions.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Of the DFL leadership because of this fraud here in Minnesota?
Speaker 7 (09:04):
On?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Tom?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
What and this is the question I get all the time.
In fact, I've been getting it for years. We're held
to a certain standard out here in Main Street, USA,
and these elected officials seem to get a double standard. Look,
Keith Ellison and Tim Walls did exactly what they've been
doing since Minnesota fraud becoming became a national news story.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
They deflect and they deny.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Was I surprised that Ellison refused to answer my questions?
He's clearly got something to Hi, John, and I agree
with Minnesota citizens on this, and I do believe there
will be accountability if it is true that he actively
obstructed the feeding our future fraud investigation in exchange for
campaign donations. This is what Betty McCollum got all flustered
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about at the hearing and now wants to sweep under
the rug if that's true, and everything right now is
pointing to that, as the audio tape of his December
twenty twenty one meetings sig yes, he not only needs
to be this far, John, Keith Ellison needs to.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Go to jail all right.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
People need to be held accountable period.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Representative Tom Emmer, as always, it's a fantastic to speak
with you. I'm sorry that your weather is making way
for spring, but you and I both know that winner
will be right back around the corner.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
So well, we'll have our three months.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Thank you for the thank you for the time, and
hopefully we have a chance to talk again next week.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Look forward to john have a good weekend.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
All right, coming up, we'll talk with our in studio guest,
Katherine Johnson is making her way upstairs. I see Grace Keating.
She's already sitting right across from me corning Grace, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Are you doing this morning? Good welcome to the new studio.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
Oh my gosh, thank you. Yeah, it took me a
minute to find the on button for the mic, but
I got it now.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Well, good to see you and thanks for coming in today.
I know we had a bit of a change because
Max Rammer wasn't going to be able to make it in.
Catherine's on her way up as well, and ak Kamara
will be here for those wondering. I do have a
better chair for Aka over in the corner than last week.
He had to sit almost on the floor last time,
so I was able to track down on a better share.
There's a lot of people that were curious about it,
so coming up. I have a wild story. Scott Johnson,
(11:06):
friend of the show, writes for power Line. US attorney
Integer interrogated at contempt to hearing over illegal aliens missing property.
The details of the illegal aliens missing property is already
worthy to go and share with you. But there's a
side story relating to CBS and ASMI Murphy talking about
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individuals who may be in contempt of court. I'll give
you the details next and we'll get to your comments
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Speaker 6 (11:54):
Nobody puts ak in the corner.
Speaker 9 (11:58):
Sorry I had to.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Well, it's not like it's kind of corner of the console,
but it's not like corner of the of the room.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
I do see you got him a new chair.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I did, well, I stole it, but I did.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
That's nice of you.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Well, I'm hoping that whoever uses that chair from the
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Speaker 2 (12:34):
Grace Keating, Good morning, guys. I was mentally already on
a plane.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
I am not in Minnesota mentally right now.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You're going on vacation.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
In about twenty four hours.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
I will be sitting at the airport, and I mentally
I'm there already.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
She actually brought a clock with her and it's counting
down right now. It's got a couple of different markers.
One's nine o'clock when the show is over. She's I
got that done, and then the rest of it is
when she's getting ready to go to the airport. And
also Catherine Johnson has joined us in studio. You're gonna
be leaving next week too, so neither of you guys
are gonna be here. So I really next week, so
I really need to take advantage of the both of
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you this morning, and that sounded horrible.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
So get in.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
I'm gonna walk right past that.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
So good to.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
See you guys this morning. Thanks so much for coming in.
How does it feel to be a war? I've been
curious to ask you guys with Operation Epic Fury, I
don't like to put it like that.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
What are your thoughts of, Oh, we we are.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I mean there's war, there's warring going on strike, but
but but they're lobbying stuff back super successfully.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
No.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
I do find it really amusing with Operation Epic Fury
that we we do these targeted strikes trying to take
out the tyrannical regime over there, and then the response
from Iran is to basically just attack everybody. Yes, they've
just they've just if you follow any of this or
monitored the situation as I have been doing, have you
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has your have your significant others been monitoring the situation?
Speaker 7 (14:00):
And I'm kind of the resident situation you're.
Speaker 10 (14:02):
The resident situation monitor. Yeah, I'll sitter like and what
I don't remember what happened. Oh, I was at a
car dealership when this, really I was happened to be
bringing my car in the morning after this really popped off,
and I was there for two.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
Hours, like multiple screens.
Speaker 10 (14:15):
Practically just monitoring the situation.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
So I'm good at that.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I will say, Okay, are you is Hunter monitoring the situation?
Speaker 7 (14:22):
I have to be honest.
Speaker 8 (14:23):
Hunter is also mentally in Italy right now, I feel
so neither.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Of us are monitoring.
Speaker 8 (14:29):
The treating house is undefended and unmonitored.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
The only monitoring of any situations is one detailing your
trip to Italy, praying out loud.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
I have my priority straight.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I'm sorry situation that we're monitoring right now. No, But
if you aren't monitoring the situation and you just follow
throughout the day, you see that Iran is just like yeah,
we're gonna fire some over at Cutter, or we're gonna
fire some over into a rock and more into Saudi Arabia,
and it's like like avoiding all of of our guys
while we continue to bomb them.
Speaker 10 (15:02):
So right, I mean, and overall, I'm kind of I
think I'm mostly happy with it. I obviously, like a
lot of conservatives was, I was very hesitant when I
heard that we were bombing Iran. But I do trust
Donald Trump. I think his foreign policy record is incredible,
and so that's what I have to keep reminding myself.
We don't know yet if it's going to be some
prolonged venture, and I hope it isn't, but so far
(15:24):
it's been extremely successful, So I'm pretty positive about it overall.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I am. I like the resolve.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I mean, that's been my thought from the get go.
You know, the problem one of the biggest issue that
one of the biggest issues that we have with Washington,
d C. In Congress is the lack of the will
and desire to go and do the right thing, whether
it is you know, military action like we're taking to
end this regime, to protect our allies, to bring peace
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to a region as best we can right whether it's
the resolve to actually go and secure the border after
the four years of President and Joe Biden, the resolve
to continue to deport individuals here, the resolve to remove
people who may not be the best individuals to run
certain departments. With Christine Noman, we'll talk about this coming up.
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It is certainly a shift in mentality over the course
of presidencies, and even a massive shift.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
From Trump's first term.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
To be honest, wherein I think he was still new,
a lot of holdovers from the previous administration, and what
we're seeing with Operation Epic Fury, in my opinion, is
a direct result of him not winning a consecutive second term,
you know, having lost, having the time off, winning again
(16:42):
and knowing I have the opportunity now to do what
I didn't think I probably was going to be able
to do and have a second term. I need to
take advantage of it, cement my legacy, and that's exactly what.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
He is attempting to go and to go and do.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
Yeah, that's a very fair take.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
I feel like it's that attitude of finally being empowered
to do the things that should have been done years ago,
whether it's Venezuela or Iran, like someone needed to be
the adult in the situation and go in and just
take out the bad guys in the world.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (17:09):
I'm a firm believer in peace through strength. I think
a lot of us are. But if you're never strong,
it does doesn't really work. We have to keep our
place in the world as being this strong country that
is willing to strike if need be, and so I
think this is a pretty good example of it, because
certainly it was well deserved by Iran. Certainly, we have
had a series of weak presidents on foreign policy.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
We have.
Speaker 10 (17:32):
I mean, we were handing cash to Iran under Obama.
So look, yeah, let's make a point that we're it's
not like that anymore.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Well, and the last thing I want to say on
this before we move over back to some to some
local issues is and it's something that I said at
the onset of Operation Epic Fury, and that is Trump
is doing this regardless of the electoral calculus, regardless of
the electoral outcome. Right, He's like, he's not looking at
this through lens and there's an argument to be made
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that maybe he should. But in my for me personally,
you know, doing the right thing means just going and
doing the right thing and not looking at this through well,
what is the.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Polling going to be? And how are.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Democrats going to go and spin this and what does
it mean for the midterms. It's like, you know what,
I'm very much believe that God is in control. He'll
go and figure that out. But let's go and do
what's right and not look at what the unintended consequences
beyond the actions of what we're doing. From a political
from a political standpoint.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
I was thinking that on the way in this morning.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
Actually, it feels like he's learned or decided with this
second term that.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
You know, Republicans can win, can go.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
Up against the institutions in place, whether that's higher ed
or the media or the dear you know, the Democrats,
and they can. You know, going up against these these
institutions of power does not mean you're going to lose,
and it doesn't mean that you're even going to lose
in the court of public opinion with the American people.
Like at a certain point, people stop caring about the
outrage that out from those sources anytime a Republican does anything.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
And I think that it's really refreshing.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
Again, We've said this throughout all of Trump's presidency to
see that kind of I don't care attitude like you
were saying, I'm going to go in and do the
right thing regardless, and I trust the American people are
going to see the outcomes the effects of that, and
you know, give me some trust and grace along the way.
Speaker 11 (19:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (19:18):
And I just wish that the senators we have right
now in Congress who are refusing to do something about
the Save Act would have the same kind of resolve.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
I mean, I'm a lot of people are blaming.
Speaker 10 (19:29):
Trump for that. I don't think there's much to blame Trump.
I think, you know, what is he going to do?
It's the Senators right now that are really refusing to
do what they need to do, and that is what
really grinds my gears.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Yeah, we have an issue right now with the Republicans
in the Senate and they need to go and figure
this out. I told this to Tom. I've said this
many times on the show. And as a matter of fact,
before I make this comment, let me play this clip.
I've been holding onto this. This is the CNN having
to admit and I permally believe that it's exactly what
the three of us have been talking about now, that
resolve of President Donald Trump that is leading towards the
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positive outlook of Republicans over this administration.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
As CNN was forced to go and admit.
Speaker 12 (20:06):
This, Republicans love Donald Trump more than any president's own
party supporters loved them at this particular point. Just take
a look here, okay, own party supporters twenty first century
president's own party approval about at this point the second term,
Bush was at seventy seven percent. Obama was at seventy
seven percent. Look at this, eighty six percent of Republicans
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approve of the job that Donald Trump is doing at
this point. That is higher than either Obama or Bush
had within their own party at this point. Trump's magic
touch has not seen the war off yet when it
comes to the Republican base, and.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
We'll count to the point that you made earlier, that
will remain as long as this is not a protracted fight.
We as Americans love blowing stuff up. We do. We
like to blow stuff up, and we definitely like it
when we push back.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
On bullies, especially Republicans.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
And so right now there's a lot of positivity attached
to it as long as this remains precise and there
is a mission and they succeed with that mission. And
coupled with that, as I've been saying, you have a
successful Operation Epic Fury, and then you back that up
with the past Save America, you know, the Save America Act.
That is your winning message for the mid terms later
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on this year.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
You just have to trust that he at least understands
that Americans want something limited in scope and duration, very targeted,
not a full out war. Just go like I mean again,
like getting Maduro out of Venezuela. Go in, get the
job done, get out, and don't waste American lives over
in another war that.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
At the end of the day, that does not have
anything to do with us.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Coming up, Scott Johnson from power Line has a peace
out and I have some audio to share. The US
attorney and interrogated a contempt hearing over illegal aliens missing property.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Wait until you hear what is.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Being described and what is being used as the missing
property what they say is missing property. It was funny
because I asked both Caine and Grace if they were
aware of the story, and they were. And immediately Catherine,
you were like, did you mention the the one thing
that was missing?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I said yes.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
We're actually absolutely going to get into that, including speaking
of contempt of court. One as me Murphy might have
actually been in contempt of court. We'll explain. Ak Kamar
will be joining us in just a few minutes as
well on a Freedom Friday, and of course we'll hear
from you in the iHeartRadio app with your on and
off topic comments all morning long.
Speaker 9 (22:22):
Great show, John always good to listen to. The Friday
fun fest. That's it. I don't have anything philosophical or
facetious at the back of the day, but I'm just
wondering what Monday show topic is.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Kind of like you're getting way ahead of yourself. I'm
not even I'm only it's only seven thirty right now.
Enjoy your weekend seriously. Yeah, I'm I gotcha, But I
am glad that you're looking forward to to Monday as well.
All right, one more, we'll take a quick break here
on Swin City's News Talking.
Speaker 13 (22:49):
John we just had four years of a president who
didn't have the resolve to stay awake the whole day.
Speaker 11 (23:00):
Best pod awaken Up is no Indramala Last Trum.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's a Freedom Friday.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
On Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty one O
three five FM.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
In studio.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Now we have Catherine Johnson and Grace Keening from the
American Experiment podcast.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Glad you guys can both be here this morning.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Delighted to be here, Ak.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Kamara, I'm sure he's very excited to get into his
well borrowed chair this morning. He'll be smiling making his
way up into the studio shortly, and of course we
will hear from you all morning long on the iHeartRadio
app on Freedom Friday.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
To sum up what Republicans want. What we want is
called consequence for stupid actions. Consequence. That's all. Thank you,
that's it.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
That's it, and hopefully we see that here in Minnesota.
Relating to all the fraud, which we'll get back to shortly.
I want to go here though, power Line blog friend
of the show at Scott Johnson. Haven't had him on
in a while. You need to bring him back on again.
Good guy, He writes this United States Attorney Daniel Rosen,
and he says, my longtime friend, don't look to me
for objectivity. I appreciate Scot Johnson being upfront. He says
(24:13):
he was called to show cause why he should not
be held in contempt of court by Judge Jeffrey Bryan
of the Federal District Court here on Tuesday. Judge Brian's
show cause order is posted online for everybody to see.
You over at power Line and I'll say that I
have not talked about this all week long. I was
kind of waiting for everything to play out before I did.
But the local media has been making so much out
(24:36):
of this. Every single day there is a lead story
about how, oh, Daniel Rosen being hauled into court for
contempt of court, what's going to happen? Judge says, he
is going to take out actions necessary, and I'm like,
you know what, I'm just going to wait to see
how this whole thing plays out.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
They got a sketch artist in there.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Like, he's a oh, come on, did they really.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Yes, they're sketching this every day.
Speaker 10 (24:56):
I don't know who's in charge of the sketch person,
but what the heck?
Speaker 7 (24:59):
He didn't murder. There's somebody didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Well, it's an extension of the Democrat's rampant desire to
perpetuate Operation Metro Surge and to just make as much
out of it as humanly as humanly possible. I mean,
it's borderline ridiculous at this point in time, especially when
you consider that it was all pretty much self inflicted.
(25:21):
If you didn't have everybody, as I've said this so
many times, if you didn't have people out on the
streets obstructing, if they were just observing what Ice was doing.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Fine, but that wasn't what happened. We all know that
wasn't what happened.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
So with this also called the show cause where the
head of the United States Attorney's Civil Division, David Fuller,
and a representative of ICE who turned out to be
the deputy Regional director Tario rich Now. Judge Brian invoked
the prospect of Rosen being held in civil contempt and
fine for criminal contempt and jailed in a testy exchange
(25:53):
near the onset of the hearing, Right Scott Johnson, the
prospect has elicited the interest of the press. Filled the
seventh floor courtroom in Saint Paul's warren Berger Federal Building
that Judge Brian used for the hearing. His own courtroom
and others on the third floor were out of commission apparently.
Scott says, I sat next to Esmey Murphy of CBS
(26:13):
News in the first row of the courtroom.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
More on Esmey in due course.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
There's a lot of great details in what the judge
is doing here with Rosen, but it really is the
esme Murphy aspect of this that just takes the cake.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
He says.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
I found the hearing to be a surreal exercise. Judge
Brian began with an interrogation of Rosen regarding the premises
underlying the hearing. I wrote in my notes that it
was ordeal by humiliation. Now Dan was not humiliated, but
it seemed to me that that was the judge's intent.
Dan held his own and I believe ultimately got the
judge to back down from the prospect of criminal contempt
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and imprisonment. Their testy exchange. Testy was Judge Brian's word,
by the way, became more respectful after the judge called
a break out. Dan at all were to show why
they should not be held in contempt for violating court orders.
In twenty eight course habeas cases involving illegal aliens who've
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been arrested and held by Ice in the course of
Operation Metro Search, the personal property of the illegal aliens
was to have been returned and it's return documented. This
is where things get interesting.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Yeah, did they lose some important stuff? Maybe? Like I
can understand if you know, maybe.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It depends on your definition of important.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
They stole stuff from them or something.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
It must be really bad because they're threatening to jail.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Right, Like I'm thinking like a cell phone or a
really watch or I don't know.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Okay, okay, I'm not familiar with this.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Well, I'm so glad that you set cell phones and watches. Right, yeah,
well no, I'm just glad you set that baseline. I
think that's for somebody, no, no, no, for somebody who
is unfamiliar with the story. That's a very very good
baseline for us to work off of. Y you know,
because cell phones and watches, it could be a rolex,
very expensive.
Speaker 10 (27:58):
Things, maybe something like that.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Now, speaking of crucial things, R and C committeemann A K.
Kamara has now joined us in studio. As you see,
I found you a better chair, my friend.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
This is a far better chair.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Is that better?
Speaker 6 (28:10):
Way?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Way better?
Speaker 5 (28:11):
I was actually wondering how could you make a chair better?
And you simply just make it that it doesn't make
you catapult up in the air.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
So I'm glad we got some great chair.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Unfortunately, there's somebody in the emergency room right now who's
I put that chair back into the studio, and unfortunately
it may have gone and bumped their head on the
ceiling and popping into that chair.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I wish you could see what this chair was like. Honestly,
like it was absurd.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
I'm devastated that.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
They were people asking, I mean, that was the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Ak is coming in, Did you get him a new chair.
It's like we did.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
Talk about the chair situation a lot.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Because the one guy wondering what the top he's going
to be on Monday, everybody else is going, I don't
care what are you guys talking about. It's gonna make
sure Ak is going a new chair.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
And what I love the most though, is that when
the guy's talking about like what they're gonna talk about
a Monday, he sounds like he's like in a tropical place,
whereas like birds singing in the background.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That was amazing.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
But I think it was because you shared that photo
of me that I look like I'm like a very
very small person.
Speaker 10 (29:13):
Yeah, you like so little, so little in that in
that photo.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
All right, getting back into this piece, US attorney interrogated
a contempt hearing over Elliglelien's missing property, Right, things like
watches or cell phones?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Ball it don't okay.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
So again, there's some one thousand habeas cases that have
been going on. Right, the federal district judges have been
riding the high horse in opposition to Ice. A case
pending before the Eighth Circuit should clarify whether they have
the jurisdiction to go and do so here, Right, By
the time of the hearing, the number of cases in
which Rosen was held to account.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Had been whittled down again.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
We had some one thousand habeas cases by the time
of the hearing that had been whittled down to twenty three.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Okay, now in the course of the hearing the number
was whittled down to five. One of the eighteen that
was involved involved a missing not a cell phone, grace,
not a watch, but a shoelace.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Boy, very expensive sho Was.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
It made out of gold?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yes, that's right, a shoelace. One know the rationale for
the shoelace? Do you already know?
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I have no idea story?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Okay, Catherine, you probably already you probably do? You know
the rationale for the I don't know. Okay, So the
rationale for the shoelace, and the concern was that it
it might be scraped for DNA tying him to a crime.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Oh well, okay, what is he sucking.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
On the shoelace?
Speaker 5 (30:49):
I mean, I mean, listen, he could have had like
a bloody hand or something and then he went to
tie his shod.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Okay, all right, that's a little bit better than me,
you know, having him put it in his mouth.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
I mean the fact that you would be concerned about
that means that you should be arrested right now and
we should hold you until we find out.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
I are you so.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Afraid of your DNA right being found on the shoelace?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Man no A.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Scott Johnson writes. He says that kid, you not.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Rosen agreed that if Ice found the shoelace, it would
be returned to the concerned illegal alien criminal without further ado.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
I mean some of these cases too, by the way
he listed some of the other ones, Like one of
them was the guy's lawyer hasn't come and gotten his
stuff yet.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
It's sitting at the place like it's ready to be
picked up.
Speaker 10 (31:32):
And he hasn't got it and picked it up, and
they were mad at him for that. What is he
supposed to do about that? These things are all absurd.
This is what every single illegal alien tried to do.
They filed a habeas petition and they thought that was
their get out of jail free card and they took
advantage of it.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
It's also frustrating how many of these people have filed
multiple habeas petitions like you can just go in apparently
and just keep trying, and you know, one one guy's
filed four petitions trying to just get released from ICE attention,
and you know, people keep say it only takes one.
It only takes one of these cases for this guy
to be let back out into civil society.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Now, the remaining five cases included one in which lost
property was a passport that was found after the petitioner's
release from ICE custody.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
At whippleed, Okay, yeah, I'd be concerned.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Yeah, well you would be because you're getting ready concern
because you're getting ready to go to Italy, So you need.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
That passport in mine so I can do without shoelaces.
I need my passboard.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
In the meantime, I says stated that they're not aware
of anything missing or lost. Now, another of the five
cases involved the passport. The passport was returned by track
US mail to the petitioner's attorney, but it hadn't been back.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
To the office to open the package. Again, I kid
you not.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
These two passport cases constituted two of the five over
which Judge Brian was deliberating a contempt order throwing him
in jail.
Speaker 10 (32:56):
Like that's literally what they're debating, throwing the lawyer in jail. Absurd.
It's beyond absurd. And this judge is a total goober.
I mean, you look him up and his entire record
is all about diversity. He spent his whole career talking
about diversity and that's his big thing in the law.
I don't care where your stance is on diversity.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 10 (33:17):
Just be a fair arbiter of the law as a judge,
that's your job. But clearly he has political motives and
it's just he's making a mockery of the court that
he's supposed to represent.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
What's so fascinating is that when you talked John that
there was a thousand habeas filings.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I think that all of.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
That is this, like you know, if you want to say,
I don't know, it's the left has completely adopted the
idea that law there is the way to go, because
I feel like he gives them some level of, I
don't know, just belief that our system works with people
on the right, and so if the court says something,
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those of us on the right or people that tend
to be on the right are like, well, that's that's
the court. They're fair, they're equal arbiters of justice. Turns
out that the left has been able to flood the
zone with all these awful judges. Just like you said,
when you look at what their motivations are, they don't
care about justice being blind. They believe that the system
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is broken, and they're trying to actually change the way
that justice is handled in this country on the basis
of your race. I mean, when you think about Mary
Moriarty and the fact that the Department of Justice and
Civil Rights Division had to sue her because she was saying, Oh,
if you're black or you're brown, we're going to give
you lighter sentences than if you're white. And it's like,
you can't do that. But that's what I think happens
(34:37):
with these Habeas corpus, all of these cases, is they're
flooding the zone and all they want to do is
like say, if you're an illegal alien.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
You have these certain rights.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
And it's like, clearly the Constitution, clearly Supreme Court President
said no, you don't.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
If you don't enter through a legal.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Port of entry or you overseay a visa, you are
held to a different set of standards and you can't
just say nope, I get a trial.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
That's insane.
Speaker 8 (34:58):
And you look at the way America trust in institutions,
you know, like the courts, like media, like our system
of government has just plummeted in recent years. It's because
the Left has so carefully and insidiously and determinedly taken
over each of those institutions, and those things that were
supposed to be unbiased and trustworthy in our life no
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longer are. And that has serious ramifications for the way
society functions.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
If we can't trust anything in our life, what can't
we trust each other?
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I don't no well, and we unfortunately have not paid
close enough attention to win. These judges end up getting
into these positions, you know, when we have the opportunity
to vote for for judges.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
It's something that we just never get focused.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
It seems like every time an election rolls around, there'll
be some smattering of a talk about it, and then
you know, who wants to go and look up individuals.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
That are running for judge positions.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
But the truth of the matter is they're incredibly important
and you're you're seeing the reason why.
Speaker 10 (35:58):
Yeah, they're often unopposed to, so they just get they
get appointed and then technically they get re elected by
the people but they're most of the time, vast majority
of the time, they're unopposed, So it's really not fair.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
And I think that there's kind of two different ways
that we can actually make movement on reigning this end.
From a federal level, we should be able to have
some just very very simple, if you have this many
departures from the standard sentencing guidelines, you should have some
type of panel of impartial judges say like, what's going
on here? Does this person need to be practicing law anymore?
(36:31):
And on the state level you can do the exact
same thing, and I think that will rein in the
judiciary because let's be very clear, if you want to
affect any societal changes, become a legislator, go and become
an elected politician. The purpose of the judiciary is to
settle arguments between people using impartial law, and that's what
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it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
So I think more and more people are.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Waking up, and I think that even in Minnesota state legislature,
there's been a couple I think it was maybe Walter
Hudson that was talking about this, or I don't know
exactly who was talking about a bill that they had
proposed to be able to.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Do exactly that.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
When it comes to having these wide, wide departures from
normal sentencing guidelines and always having a downward departure where
you're giving less and less and less time, you have
to be able to have someone that comes together and says,
what's going on with this judge.
Speaker 10 (37:23):
It's just frustrating that as conservatives who have morals and
want to stick to believing in the constitution, we get
faulted because the other side is willing to throw all
those things out the window and let in unlimited numbers
of illegal aliens.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
Nothing happens, and then when we.
Speaker 10 (37:36):
Try and solve the mess that they've created, we are
the ones that are accused of you know, contempt and
being threatened to be.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
Thrown in jail.
Speaker 8 (37:44):
Well, and we have to get a grip on the
higher education system because conservatives can say all day long,
you know, you don't need to for your degree to
have a great career, have a great life, and oh
you can go to these you know, more conservative patriotic
colleges around the country, But people like judges and lawyers
are still going into these higher institutions, these universities that
are still so so full of you know, leftist indoctrination,
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and we can't turn our back in those institutions because
those are the people running our court.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Still, I want to go to the iHeartRadio app your
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Speaker 9 (38:16):
Maybe that judge was thinking that the guy who owns
the shoelace was doing that lost dance with it.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Oh maybe?
Speaker 5 (38:26):
Ah, oh, thank you for the visualization.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
No, yeah, not really the image that I that I
wanted there, so.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Like any of that. During the morning portion of the hearing.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Scott Johnson goes on to say, I sat next to
Asmi Murphy. I have written about her many times, says
Scott on power Line. She is one of the intensely
partisan left wing journalists working the most intensely partisan left
wing journalists, so working the local political scene. At the
lunch break, she caught up with Dan Dan Rose the
(39:00):
guys trying to be held in contempts to get a
comment from him on the judges threat to imprison him.
She apparently wanted to save or what I call the
judges ordeal by humiliation.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Dan wasn't humiliated, He didn't bite. He basically laughed off.
Speaker 14 (39:17):
The cameraman or honestly eyes made while we're during the
during the hearing.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I'm not going to make make comments. I'm not gonna
make comments on.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
The record while we're in the middle of the hearing,
as man.
Speaker 14 (39:29):
But thanks for the questions. If you can ask me anything,
I'll star. I mean, you can perhaps talk about it imprisonment.
I'm gonna stick with what I said. I'm not gonna
make any comments while the while the hearing is in process.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
I think her son just got a gig. Didn't he
just get a gig over there? I thought I had.
I thought I had. I thought I had read that,
which wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, in the least bit he did.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
But here's the thing about Esme Murphy when you like,
I don't follow her on x but every once in
a while, so I of a post that goes viral,
so it comes across my feed, and she had this
one as an example. It was just a picture of
some coffee in a poorly lit like I don't know
these uh samosas or whatever they're called. And her posts
got some somosas and an ice Somali coffee for the
(40:19):
ride back to the station, Like She literally will post
garbage like that when we were in the height of
talking about Somali fraud as her way to like, here's
my flag of support for the Somali community. It has
like one hundred and fifty thousand impressions. And the thing
about Esme, I went on her show one time, right,
and I caught her so far off guard because I
(40:39):
watched a couple of, you know, interviews that she did beforehand.
And what she does is when she has Republicans on
or people on the right, she will preframe the question
with a false narrative that I already disagree with or
we already disagree with, so then you're forced to have
to answer from her stupid position. She did that to me,
and I went back and I was like, well, I
(40:59):
fundamentally just agree with the premise here question, And then
I broke down.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Why I did, and she was so flustered.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
It's funny go find the clip, just as may Murphy
ak Kamara, and.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
She like is like fumbling over herself.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
But because she was telling she was trying to set
up the premise that Donald Trump is a racist, So
why is it the like thirty percent of black males
we're going to support him, and I'm like, well, he
literally isn't racist. He's been loved by the black community,
whether you're talking about Jesse Jackson, whether you're talking about
Oprah Winfrey. And she was like, well, well that was
back when he was a Democrat, and I was like,
(41:30):
thank you, exactly.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
That's the whole point.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
It's not because he's racist, it's because he's a Republican.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
It's an incredibly effective tactic that Democrats use where they
basically they set up their own premise and you know
this is this is this is their truth as they
know it, and now you must respond based off of
their truth. So this is where things got really interesting.
Speaking now, this whole thing was about holding this attorney
in contempt of court, okay, And I want to mention
(41:57):
too that we do I just want to make sure
that we are clear when it comes to the judges.
You have your judges that are appointed at the federal level,
and then we have our local judges that are elected
at the local level. That's what I was referring to earlier,
relating to how we need to focus on those judges
as well. And we typically during the election cycle don't
know who most of these individuals are so, as Scott
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Johnson writes, he says, Esmey did not make it back
into the courtroom for the rest of the hearing. Now
you go back to the beginning of the piece, and
Scott Johnson was there at the front of the group
of the press corps in the room itself in the courtroom,
so he was there along with other journalists, and asmy
Murphy so, esme did not make it back into the
courtroom for the rest of the hearing after lunch, I
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understand that she had left her phone on the first
row bench where we had been sitting during the morning.
As credentialed members of the press, we are allowed to
bring our devices into the courtroom, but under prohibition, we
can't use them to record or photograph inside the courthouse.
In fact, the US Marshall reminded us of that prohibition
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that morning. However, Murphy's abandoned phone was picked up during
the break and found to be recording. I was told,
says Scott Johnson, the court yanked her press credential credentials
and sent her packing. And he ends with this, and
it's completely appropriate. Talk about contempt.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
That's fun. That's so fun.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Justice rules for the for the but not for me.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
Yeah, and that's what Asme Murphy and all of these
you know journalists that pretend that they don't have a bias,
Like I don't have a problem that Esme Murphy's a leftist.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Just don't say that you're not. That's always been my problem.
Don't pretend that you're not. Like, no, I'm a fair
and you know, impartial, arbiter of the truth and.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
I'm just trying to get to the bombing story.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
It's like, Esme Murphy is one of the most leftist
journalists that we have, and it's like she tries to
hide it and it's absurd.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Just be yourself as man.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
I promise you you'll be so much happier when you
just let everyone know that you are a deranged, died
in the wall leftist.
Speaker 4 (44:07):
Well, I've had people come, you know, come at me
in the past. It hasn't happened in a long time,
and I go, well, you're biased, and I'm like, well,
get dug, I'm a conservative news talk show host. What
do you expect. There's a difference when you're talking to
somebody who's working for a news organization that is supposed
to remain impartial to what's happening happening, But if you're
not going to, then just be honest about it, because
you're not fooling anybody, right, including the majority of the
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people that will watch your or listen to your commentary.
They know you're biased. Yes, just be honest about it,
all right. Coming up, we're gonna get an update on
the legislative session, including one one Representative who and I'll
share the audio comeing up in just a moment. You know,
you hear things and you go, did they really go
and say that? I have two clips. I have one
(44:52):
from Representative Dave Pinto. I have another one from Athena Hollins.
It's the Pinto one where he actually suggests that maybe
we should study the benefits of shoplifting and retail theft.
The benefits, Yes, because you see grace, people who go
and conduct shoplifting and retail theft, they may be benefiting
(45:13):
from this, and so because it's a benefit to them,
then we should be really examining whether or not, you know,
they're benefiting from retail shoplifting and theft.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
You know, should.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Be looked at and perhaps a lesser harsher light.
Speaker 7 (45:29):
No, that's incredible. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah, we have the audio to share. We'll get to
it coming up.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
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