May 8, 2026 • 44 mins
Jon is joined in studio by MN Rep Max Rymer and Grace Keating and AK Kamara. The group looks at a potential case of fraud in MN and the government release of classified documents.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Well, look at that right out of the date.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Trump administration releasing UFO and alien files, and.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Is what we told you.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We said it when happens started happening at seven o'clock.
I'm looking at the h the Fox News the screen
right now, so Peter Noosey apparently.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It looks like he's got a hard drive in his.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hand that has information on it.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Very exciting, such good stuff. This is your super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Oh man, this is fun. I just listen.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I just liked the spectacle of it. I like the
mystery of it.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
M as sci fi nerd, I get it.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
But this is fascinating to me, and I want the
government to release the information and let us as humans,
you know, responsible adults, and decipher it for ourselves. Representative
Max Rymer joins us in studio. I am very interested
to find out the level of concern or interest from
Grace Keating, center of the American Experiment this morning. So
(01:02):
you are you up to speed on this? Do you
care at all about alien disclosure?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Okay, I'm psyched and uninformed, which is.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
The best, awesome place to be, a good place to be.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
See.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
That's how I want every single listener of the show
psyched and uninformed. That's why we're here, all right, So
we'll get into this. They're releasing some information right now,
so we'll get up to speed here as ak Kamara
is making his way in and we will be asking.
I'm going to hold off on the question, okay, because
I anticipate we're gonna get a lot of responses, so
(01:33):
I'm just gonna hang. I have a UFO disclosure related
question that we will ask the audience this morning. Now,
before we move on to some of the items that
has been going on during the legislative session, let's go
back to the iHeartRadio app. You're on and off topic
comments all morning long on a Freedom Friday.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Lolring Josh, the guy that called in if off the
boss load of that crashed alien.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
It was an old twilightele Okay, so that's what I thought.
That's what I thought.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I appreciate the creativity, but it was gonna go over
my head and doesn't He was telling the story about
an old Twilight Zone episode. Usually I'm pretty familiar with those,
but it's been a long time.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I don't blame him for him assuming that you knew
exactly what he was talking about. It's not on him,
not on him at all.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I think he used to do the I believe it
was over New Years they did the Twilight Zone marathons.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yes, I had the default to him because you, I know,
I know, it's like my my degrees of ages. It's
me and then it's Sam, and then it's Max and
then it's Great Grace and I am just like sitting
here exactly so I can tell where the.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
The funny thing is, I don't remember that episode. I mean,
I believe it, but the one that stands out to
me was the alien, the little mini Aliens in the attic.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Do you remember that? Yeah, Twilight Zone.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
Yeah, yeah, I won't spoil the twists on that one,
but there's a pretty big twist.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I think you're okay if you I think you're okay
if you do, I don't guess, like sixty years later, yeah,
I think I think you're I think.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Spoiler or On a black and white television show.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
The woman is convinced that there's little mini Aliens, and
at the end of the episode it's that the little
mini Aliens are actually American astronauts on an alien planet.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
So alien that was so good. Yeah, awesome, that was
a good one. That was a really good one. Yeah,
that was a great episode.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
All right, Sam, doing me a favorite to put you
to work, Yes, sir, So, as they're releasing this information, now,
can you just gather up and just kind of give
me a synopsis of what it is that they're detailing
because they're talking with Trump and stuff right now. So
all right, let's go here. Minnesota House approved a bill
to establish a statewide Office of Inspector General to investigate fraud.
(03:34):
With bipartisans support the bill, we'll now move back to
the Senate. It proposed as a compromise where the Bureau
of Criminal Apprehension will handle the law enforcement duties for
the OIG until twenty twenty eight. The OIG is expected
to cost at least twelve million dollars annually and will
be established in twenty twenty seven and work alongside the
(03:55):
existing agency inspectors General. So Max, first up, do we
know where we're pulling the twelve million from?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Well, the twelve million is just going to be a
general expense to Minnesota. Minnesota, and I had some heartburn
about that price tag, right, But what you have to
keep in mind is when you look at the past
few years, we've had nine billion dollars or more in fraud.
If a new Office of Inspector General costs twelve million
dollars a year to save US a billion dollars a
year in fraud.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
That's a pretty good return on investment.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Now, well, I've also heard that I had I had
somebody that a friend of the show pat he do
you emailed me let's just keep it anonymous for crying
out loud justice at iHeartRadio dot com. But there's some
commentary out there that we already have. A former legislator,
Jeremy Munson I had put out there that we already
have an Office of Inspector General. It already exists. So
(04:45):
I just to kind of paraphrase like, almost this new
office of Inspector General was unnecessary because we already we
already have one. So can you can you co to
sort of rectify his criticism?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, So within every agency in minute, so there's an
inspector general mechanism where they are meant to basically self
audit their own books, figure out if there's bad expenditures
or if there's fraud that's being committed. What this office
does is create an independent body that both investigates and
proactively goes after fraud and frauds. There's bad expenses, potential vendors, recipients,
(05:22):
that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
And my only contention, all.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Due respect to former Representative Jeremy Munson, if we had
if the agencies were doing their job, if we just
expected them to self police, we would not have the
fraud epidemic that we have.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Now. This independent position is going to have the.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Power and the oversight among all of the agencies, their expenditures,
the people receiving the money to actually proactively catch and
go after fraud. Yes, he's right. Within the agencies, we
have inspector generals. Within different areas of government, we have
inspector generals. Our contention here was that they weren't doing
their job good enough, and therefore we can created this
(06:00):
independent position.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
What brought the the DFL on board with this because
they'd been shooting it down.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So why did why?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Why did some end of crossing over because I'm assuming
not every I mean, what was the what was the
wash to five?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
So that's not that's not too bad. Well, they're backed
into a corner.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
They have an election coming up and they are going
to have to try to rectify their response to the fraud.
So in the House position, the bill that we created,
they folded on almost every single provision that they wanted
to Keep in mind, we weren't talking that long ago
that they wanted to basically have a bill that gets
(06:38):
passed that has no provisions in it. They wanted to
delete everything from the proposed inspector General. But I think
everyone knows that they have an election coming up.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
What is the Is there a Senate expectation, could this
get could this get held up there or in the
in the in the Senate when they when they get their.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Hands on the expectation is that the Senate will take
the exact House language at this point. So overall, and
again I'm not going to lie to the listener. If
it's a bad bill, I'm going to tell you it's
a bad bill. Yesterday we did two things. We did
the inspector General and we did compliance with the federal
government's work requirements for welfare recipients. Yesterday, I felt like
(07:16):
it was the most substantive important day that I have
had in the legislature.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
We'll move into a conspiracy territory coming up when we
talk UFOs applying conspiracy to this. I can't help but
wonder if with Amy Klobush our last Sunday, coming out
and giving her comments about wanting to tackle fraud and
doing all these things, if those dfllaers in the house
(07:44):
felt like, Okay, we kind of need to lean into this.
Now Amy's actually acting like she's running. She's talking about
doing things. This should have been done already, and it
might have sort of cleared the runway for them to
go and you know, hop on board the plane and
to take off.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
It was very could have been that, and it could
have been like this relief that I don't have to
defend Tim Walls anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
For some of that's dim Walls, Tim Walls. But it
was fascinating to watch.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
You saw the vote, one hundred and twenty seven votes,
most Democrats voted for the bill. It was interesting to
watch yesterday how it was like, oh, you guys, do
admit that we have a fraud problem. Yeah, that this
is not imaginary.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Yeah, I forget how recent it was that you had
people like Tim Walls saying that the fraud was made
up or there wasn't any evidence of fraud happening.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
In Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
It is shocking if you go back and listen to
him saying that how recent that happened.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, he was saying it two weeks ago on Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah,
he said he was ignoring it. This happens in every state.
We are no different than any other state.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
And it implied that Trump made up the fraud story
so that he could come in and use force.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I mean, it makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
And then you get like the flip side of it
when he does.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
The expect for the next eleven months for me to
ride you like you've never been.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Ridden, and he was talking about fraud.
Speaker 8 (08:59):
M h.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And he hasn't done anything. Well, I guess he's writing
his book. I guess he's writing good.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Good.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I'm just gonna say too.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Well, over the last like four months, Tim Malls has
been absent.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, he's not writing me. Yeah, he's not doing anything.
That's good. That's good.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Certain, just happy for you.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
You can you can.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
You don't have to ask that question via the talkback.
Do you feel written on Max? Max has not been
written on by Governor Jim Walls.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
You've got to stop talking, man.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That's that's good to know. That's a sigh of relief.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
Guys. My concern is the Office of Inspector General is
well downstream of the fraud. Where you have to catch
the fraud is at the policy level. Stop funding nonprofits
and NGOs. That's where the real problem lies, and that's
where it has to be fought, because if the money's
not going out to these organizations, then you don't have fraud.
(09:57):
That's where it's fixed.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
All right, Coming up, we're going to tell the story
from exclusive from Alpha News. Jay Lani Hussein, executive director
of Care Minnesota, received over one hundred and ten thousand
dollars in taxpayer payments for an adult foster care program
that he ran from his home. Now he's not been
accused of wrongdoing at this time, but been questioned by
(10:19):
Alpha News he wouldn't answer any of the questions. And
also immediately when this was exposed, he apparently removed any
information and any of his name two attached.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
To the daycare. Oh that's what that's what innocent people.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, that's exactly what what innocent people do. So we
will provide you the details on this. Your RNC Committee,
man Ak Kamaras should be joining us. SAM is gathering
information relating to what the first of the Trump UFO
files may have revealed and will of course hear from
you and the iHeartRadio app. Your talkback's brought to you
by Lyndahl Realty along with Grace Keating and Max Rymer.
(10:56):
On a Freedom Friday, You're listening to Twin City's News talk.
He's not writing me. It's good to know. Take anything
away from today's show.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
He's not writing me.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Twin City's News Talking Am eleven thirty one oh three
five FM on a Freedom Friday, A disclosure Freedom Friday.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Man, if I know this will never in a million years.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Happen, but like, how awesome would it be if the
studio behind Steven Spielberg's disclosure, like if it's I'm if
it's done, because usually they're working right until the release
day I think comes out like in June.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
How great would it be the like the heck with it,
let's just put it out today.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
That would be amazing, so smart, right, I would go
see that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Right now it happened, I could save Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Kind of the conspiracy about that movie though, was that
they had access to some of this information and.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Were like revealing it.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
That was they had inside information, the conspiracy around that movie.
It's Twin City's News Talk AM eleven thirty one oh
three five FM and on the iHeartRadio app Max Rymer,
Grace Keating, and ak Kamara is in studio.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Okay, We're not going to go fully there because I
do want to get to this care director operating the
taxpayer funded adult foster care and then we'll get into Aliens.
But to your question, yes, the new Steven Spielberg film
Disclosure that comes out later this year. The theory around
it was that he had access to real government information
(12:26):
and the film was intended to be a part of
the disclosure, right, which is really interesting when you consider
they are releasing this information now. Spielberg has downplayed that,
so he wasn't privy to any sort of any sort
of information whatsoever. Right now, everybody is speculating that this
is actually a direct sequel to Close Encounters. So that's
(12:50):
what the other scuttle on it is. So it looks
interesting to me. I mean, I love Spielberg film, so
I love Aliens. All right, So we do have information
to share, but let's go ahead and go here. First,
Alpinus learned the ex executive director of the states a
Council on American Islamic Relations Care was on the receiving
end of more than one hundred and ten thousand dollars
in taxpayer payments over six months for a publicly funded
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adult foster care program.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
That he ran from a Rose Mount residence. It must
be a big house, shocking, So it's fairy, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You can get a big enough home where you can
run a business out of that. I suppose his multiple
homes maybe. What's more, According to the exclusive to Alphinus,
Alpha News contacted Jay Lawnie Hussein for comment on April
twenty ninth, his name and a phone number were curiously
immediately removed from the license record.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Like people not understand a wayback machine and you can
actually archive, and especially a government website. There's a bunch
of people that are archiving stuff every single day. Like
what I'm like, just a war on.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
It's also why and Julani I know, I don't know
him personally, I know of him very well. It's like,
this is not shocking at all, but it gets to
this point where like deleting something, yes, it almost does
more damage.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, just keep it out there.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Absolutely answer your questions about it, move on the moment
you delete or the moment you comment on, like you
reply to yourself and comment on the context of whatever
the tweet is. Just you're better off letting it burn
out for three or four days.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
One of the biggest life lessons I ever learned, and
you will not be surprised that it came from a movie,
was Harrison Ford playing Jack Ryan in Clear and Present Danger.
At the beginning of that film, there is a boat
that ends up being pulled over by the Coastguard and
on it there's some murdered individuals on the boat who
ran it, and it turns out that it was running drugs.
(14:52):
The boat was running drugs. One of the individuals involved
in this was an American who had worked for the
government that was friends with the President of the United States.
So Jack Ryan's in the room with everybody as they're
discussing how they're going to handle this in the media,
and one of the president's immediate handlers said, we need
to distance yourself from this as quick as possible, and
(15:14):
Jack Ryan is in the corner going, no, that's not
what you do, you know, typical Jack Ryan fashion. He's like,
what are you talking about He's like no, He's like,
you own it. You say we weren't just friends, we
were best friends. We were lifelong friends. There's no point
in defusing a bomb after it's already gone off. And
I was like, yeah, that's a really really good job
writer on that film, Bengal. You taught me something. Apparently
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Jay Lawney Hussein did not see that film. A screenshot
so shows Hussein's name listed alongside Hassan on the license
So he's led, by the way the Minnesota Chapter of
Keer since twenty fifteen and was until days ago listed
as the license holder for the adult foster care program
alongside Fardoza Adon Hassan.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Not again, his name's been removed.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Right, the phone number previously listened on the licensed record
match the number listed for Hussain in multiple care press releases.
The Minnesota Aging and Disability Resources website continues to list
Hussein's name alongside the co licensee of Hassan. And again,
you get to the end of the piece here and
it does say Alfen News found no public instance in
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which Hussein disclosed his role as a license holder of
the taxpayer funded program that has collected one hundred and
ten thousand dollars while publicly commenting on similar programs under scrutiny.
All inquiries to Hussan have gone unanswered. He's not been
accused of any wrongdoing at this point in time. So
the only thing that, in my opinion, that he has
going for despite the fact that he stupidly went and
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removed his name, was with all of the focus on
fraud right now, right, I mean, would you have still
been that closely aligned or would you not have gone
and taken care of that prior to this particular investigation,
Or maybe I'm just giving people too much credit.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Yeah, listen, I think it's actually indicative that he probably
has so many fingers and so many pies of taxpayer
fraud money that he's like, oh, that this is probably
one of my smallest side forgot.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
About that one.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
And I'm not joking, like, I think that's the only
way that you would have that kind of oversight with
everything being as public as it is, he probably literally
forgot that this was one of his like little schemes.
And it does speak to the larger point I've been
saying this forever. This is by design and it comes
from basically the top level of Democrats and then all
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of their you know, surrounding organizations that then go and
teach people. If you want to make money, this is
part of your business portfolio.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Is defrauding the taxpayer.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
Now, I will say that I don't think that their
main goal is to tell people going just to fraud
the government. They're just saying this is an easy way
to get money, and no one ever checks anyways, So
like mail it in bud And I think that that
then gives people again setting the bar on the floor,
people if you do that, are just going to barely
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step above that bar. And so maybe there's like one
or two people and then there's a bunch of people
that they just lie about all the time. And I
think this is indicative of that exactly when you have
a guy like again the director of care who probably
makes one hundred plus thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Easy promise, easy, Yeah, And this is just a side house,
so like he lives in.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
Rochester, I believe, and then he has this house in Rosemount,
I believe. So that is even further like, well, why
do you have an adult daycare center in a place
that you don't live.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Well and to what this adult foster care is supposed
to be doing. According to DHS, this is a home
based residential option for adults age eighteen and older who
need help with daily living. The programs are reimbur through Medicaid,
meaning taxpayer dollars flow directly to the providers for housing
and care of vulnerable adults.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Alpha News.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
As you've seen how he balances operating a home foster
care program. Do that with his role as executive director
of Care Minnesota while also running Zila Consultants, of business
he created to develop and offer cross cultural training workshops
on East African cultures, where his co licensee Hassan also
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works as a consultant in Hassein did not respond to inquiries.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Are crazy. This is all a really bad look for this,
for this dude. I am, I am.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I will say that I'm optimistic isn't the right word,
but I am pleased to see that there is a
more open conversation happening about the Somali community involvement in
all this fraud, because you've got to get past all
the claims of racism to talk and get to the
core of what's actually been transpiring here.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
And there's a really great piece. There's a lengthy piece.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I didn't grab it for the show just because again
of its length, but it was a lengthy editorial on
the Daily Wire from one of their one of their
reporters where they get into this They get specifically into
the Somali culture, the issue of the clans within the
Smali community. We saw that breakout recently with the violence
that took place and the shooting that occurred earlier earlier
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this week in Saint Paul. So we're starting to be
able to have these discussions more openly because you have
to get at the heart of what is taking place here.
And you have ninety percent of the Somali community that's
conducting this fraud, and we're finding out that this is
what individuals are being told in Somalia before.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
They come here.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Come to America, you can open up these programs, you
can take money, taxpayer dollars in Minnesota is one of
the best places to go and do it. So if
we're going to tackle the problem, we have to be
able to have an open discussion. And it looks like
we're finally, even though those calls of racism are occurring, Finally,
you know, seeing a broader discussion on that particular point.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I was just going to say, John, it's not just
come to America. We are being talked about in refugee
camps in Africa.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Come to Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Specifically, that got talked about on the House floor with
the Office of Inspector General. Numerous cases of us being
talked about again in halfway camps, basically saying you need
to go to Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
That is where you can pull off your big drift.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
All right, we'll get some more of your comments coming
up on Twin Cities News Talk. Also, I'm looking at
the article right now Trump administration releases highly anticipated files
documenting UFOs and extraterrestrial life. And of course we'll get
to your comments on the current topic about our Director
of Care and his side a hustle here on Twin
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Cities News Talk.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
Listening to your account yet more fraud perpetrated by our
Somali friends and neighbors. I'm reminded of how Tim Walls said,
We're a generous state. So I like to encourage any
progressive listening to put your money where your mouth is
and start a gofund me whereby we not only fill
the budget hole left by the fraud, but can also
continue funding these entrepreneurs. I have a feeling once it's
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personal conference versus state, you'll become suspiciously stingy.
Speaker 10 (22:26):
As said before, the fraud is not slowing down in
the state of Minnesota. There's nothing being done from preventing this.
The fingerprint centers where these people are going to get
fingerprinted to become managers, presidents of health care facilities, adult
care facilities, childcare facilities are being swamped with Somali's getting
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fingerprinted and getting authorized to take these positions and com
get the fraud still going on.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Nothing slowed down. Well, hey, John, it's Eric from Fridley.
Speaker 11 (22:58):
You've heard me say this before, and I know you've
probably never put this on the air, but when is
the Democrat Party of Minnesota going to be investigated as
a crime organization because that's what it seems like they're
doing all the time. It's too much coincidence for it
to be coincidence. All of these things happen only with
the left, only with people associated with left, only associated.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
With the leadership in the party. That's all I got
to say.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I understand the frustration on that, but you still have
to tackle this in real world terms. You go the
other out and you're just going to be met with,
you know, eye rolls, eye rolls and groans and people
that aren't going to take you seriously. Your frustration is appropriate,
it's legitimate. You know, nobody's denying that. But you still
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have to go about the regular means of tackling these
these issues. And to what we were talking about a
moment ago here on Twin Cities News Talk on a
Freedom Friday, We've got dak Kamara Grace keating from an American
experimentative Max Rymer in studio. I think it is important
that I think it's more important in my opinion then
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instead of looking at the Democrat Party like a criminal organization,
is moving past the negative commentary when you bring up
the specifics about the fraud taking place and specifically the
Somali community. We need to be able to have this
open discussion without being worried about being labeled racist because
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we're not talking about it through that lens. It has
nothing to do with the color of individual skin. It's
all about the behavior and how one particular community is
being encouraged to go and conduct this, and that's where
I think it's more important to go and focus if
we're looking at getting at the heart of the issue
and tackling the issue overall.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
Yeah, I mean, listen, people oftentimes will explain to me
their grievance doesn't air them just like that talkbacker that
they feel like not anything is being done.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
But that's just literally not true.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
I mean the fact that the Office of Inspector gen
bill finally passed in the House, and on top of that,
it was like obviously overwhelmingly supported by Democrats as well.
And I just even read a story just today that
the Department of Justice is indicting people that were committing
pandemic unemployment insurance fraud. That we're high ranking members of
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Congress staff.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Okay, but this is the thing.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
The wheels of justice do turn slowly because, like I
said on these airways before, we have a legal system
that presumes you are innocent until what proven guilty. So
you know, it's frustrating, but the wheels are moving, they
are churning, and you are seeing more and more indictments.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
And I actually do.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Believe that there is a criminal element to the DFL
and I think that they are being taken down. Like again,
it's like screw by a screw, not even brick by
brick to be able to bring down the latter pieces.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
But it is moving. You're seeing movement.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
And I will just say, when you want to talk
about fundamentally the Democrat Party being investigated as a criminal organization,
the tip of the spear is an investigation that is
ongoing right now, and that is the smurfing that happens
with the Act Blue Platform. So as it's come out,
the Department of Justice is investigating the Democrat fundraising machine
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as old people who don't actually donate, their names are
being used to donate, and there's this funnel of money
that can't be traced back that I believe is going
to be the core of what brings down that party
as a potential criminal element.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Is this smurfing that happens.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
And by the way, Amy Klobashar has big problems with
that right now.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
It's important to remember too, it's not just that they
have to prove cases against individuals. In order for justice
to be brought, they have to have an air tight
case against individuals. You can't just have a certain some
low level of proof. You have to be ready to
know that your case is going to win and so
that's why these things take.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So much time. And you might say, well, look at this,
look at this, look at this.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
You can tell that there's body, you can tell that
they're guilty, but that's not high enough standard for them
to bring that case forward.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, and that's and thank you for the commentary, Grace,
because that's where the individuals that talk about arrest walls.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
You know, lock them up and all that.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Like, I get it, I know what you're seeing, but
none of us, for the most part, are legal experts.
In what Grace said is absolutely accurate. Right, you have
to be able to deal with the issue in a
rational way and the way that we go and deal
with our you know, criminals and our system of justice.
Got a question for for Max, Good morning, John, great show.
(27:34):
Thanks as mask crimer. What's going to prevent the Inspector
General from becoming just another political party hack like the
House Fraud Committee voting straight down party lines. Yeah, have
you threatened them for their other ramifications so they go
to the gallows if they don't go and do their job.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
So a lot of that is caught on the on
the front end.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Now there is the ability to remove an Inspector General
from the legislature, so very similar to like an impeachment process,
if you will. But basically, the inspector General comes from
an advisory commission, which then also includes the governor, and
then there's a Senate confirmation that has to happen on
the front end, so the Senate has to confirm this
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person as well. So on the front end, what you're
saying is this person, if they are a party hack,
if they've been proven to be a party hack, that
there are guardrails in place for how this person gets appointed.
And then on an ongoing basis, if this person becomes
egregious or it's obvious they're not doing their job, or
there's malfeasance, there is a removal process as well. So
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a lot of those guardrails have been created in this office.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
All right, let's turn our attention over to the White
House began releasing UFO files this morning under President Donald
trumpsall order. The initial release includes pilot materials video as well,
but not all forty six uf videos are requested by Congress.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
So I want to start here.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
David Grush, still working for the federal government, has been
at the forefront of I guess you would call him
the whistleblower He's done in the Congressional the Congressional hearings
sharing his testimony. I have a quick clip heading into
today's disclosure from David Grush on a recent podcast.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Chuer Woman Luna right now is asking the Department of
Defense to declassify about forty six videos.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Some of those videos I've seen.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
They're interesting, but they'll certainly prove the case that I've presented.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
But I think.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Luna's very smart to exercise that process, and you know,
threatened subpoenaing those records and getting those in the receipt
of Congress. And I think as the administration starts releasing things,
and I'm speaking on my personal behalf here today, but
I would recommend, you know, professionally to Congress to start
using the.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Power of subpoena.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
They already have the lists of some of these hostile
folks that ran those programs.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
So here's the question as we move into this.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I'm looking at the article right now, and we'll talk
a little bit about what's been released so far, and
we are hearing this is the first of many releases
and sort of a slow rollout on this is the
question to you friend of the show, leave us a talkback,
or you can email Justice at iHeartRadio dot com. Click
the red microphone to leave us a thirty second message
on the app. What would make you go wow when
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it comes to alien disclosure of everything that they could release,
what is like the one thing that they would put
out that you would go, oh, Okay, I get it now,
because I think a lot of people are jaded to
max what you were saying earlier. Much of what's been
released today is information that has gone out before, but
(30:54):
on the fringes. Wall Street Journal has put it out.
We've seen some in congressional testimony. I'll give you the
details here in just a moment. But I'm curious to
hear from the friends of the show or folks. What
is it that the Trump administration could release that would
make you just go oh, it's just oh my god,
oh my gosh. So leave us a talkback, drop an
email Justice at iHeartRadio dot com. They did release the
(31:16):
first batch of never before seen files and videos of
Unidentified Anomalous phenomenon as part of the effort to increase
transparency on government knowledge of the extraterrestrial phenomenon. The latest
UAP videos, photos, and original source documents from across the
entire United States government are all in one place. No
clearance is required. Although Sam was just telling me that
(31:38):
the website was already down, it's up again. Oh is
it up again? Now?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Okay traffic was I like, how we're just getting live updates.
You guys are just constantly refreshing the way here. It's
up again.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Oh it's down again, So clear clear your cash.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
While past administration sought to discredit or dissuaded Americans, Trump
is focused on providing maximum transparency to the public, who
can ultimately make up their own minds about the information
contained within the files. The release is a function of
Trump's presidential unsealing and reporting system for UAP encounters, the
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Pursue program. Photos from the initial disclosure, which the White
House official told Fox News at the first of a
series of releases, shows strangely shaped objects captured on film
during Apollo twelve and the Apollo seventeen missions, including one
photo from the surface of the Moon that appears to
show a cluster of three tiny dots in the sky.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Game game on tiny Dots in the sky, Give me the.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Three dots can suggest they might be stars.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
They might be.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Here's the thing I believed for a long time that
we actually, you know, aliens make perfect sense not to
mention an experience that I had when I was sell
resolved with my best friend, so it wasn't just myself,
it was both of us experience this thing. And I'm
more interested in the actual technology because if there are
either interdimensional beings or entities, or they came from far
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far parts of our galaxy, they have to have some
type of propulsion system that is far above and beyond
anything that we understand, and that to me is more
fascinating because I actually follow a guy.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
His name's astroon Forbes.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Some people think he's a little bit kookie, but he
talks about something called zero point energy, and it's this
idea that we could truly eradicate energy scarcity if we
can pull energy from basically another dimension and we could
use it to power everything. That's what I'm more interested
in is will we get some actual disclosure that we
actually have exotic materials, we've been re engineering them or
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engineering them, and that we have the ability to actually
solve a lot of these things. So like the Strait
of Horror moves becomes moot because we have the ability
to have a either fusion device or we have the
ability to generate limited energy through the vacuum of basically
what they call zero point energy. That's what I am
most concerned about or curious about.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
That will be the.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
AHA moment for me, because then it will just prove like, yeah,
I mean, if we got aliens, but you can't tell
us how they got here, anything that's not that interesting
or fun to me.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
So my oh man moment, what the aha moment? The
oh wow moment? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
And I don't mean to be like too cynical about this,
but I feel like we have seen so many videos
come out of like random blurry photos of spacecraft or
potential spacecraft. If I got an HD picture of an
actual being, yeah, where it's like, oh that's what they look.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I think that's when this whole thing for me, John
would become a reality, like oh wow, like we have
captured one of their crafts or they crashed, and like
that is a photo of something that is not human
but is humanoid. That would be the moment where I'd
be like, all right, my life changes.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Now You're You're not the only one two words, the bodies,
the bodies. That's what you want.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
You want the you want the bodies, and then you
can claim he's not writing me grace. Do you have
do you have an O wow moment?
Speaker 5 (35:19):
My moment would be I think, like you're so welcome
my like at a record or a recording or some
proof of like communication between us and an alien species,
whether that's like verbal or even like clips in I mean,
I don't I don't know what I'm talking about, but
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blips in the radio waves or something, and like clearly
whatever sending a signal back is is like organic.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
That would be for me, like, oh my gosh, it's real.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Because for me, even like the alien body thing would
be compelling. But today I'm still like, oh, you could
fake that. That could be well me, you know what
I mean. Like, but for some reason, the idea of communication.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Like I don't know, yeah you could. You know.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
It'd be interesting if a lot of the theories that
have been put out there, whether it's three body problem
or any of these other kind of UFO series that say, oh,
like the language of the galaxy is mathematics and that's
how we're able to communicate, and they actually like prove
that to be true. I think that would be Again,
a more fascinating to me is something that I want
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to know their technology.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
That's it, man, let's make life cooler.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
So Grace, I hate to go and rain on your
alien parade, but we've already had a circumstance where we've
heard aliens speak ill late to effect the strategy to
mobilize true in inter i shubberge of pressure.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Only aliens can understand what he's saying.
Speaker 12 (36:42):
Good morning, John morning reference to what would make me go.
While with today's disclosure that they have had a spacecraft
or a being in their possession for years and are
studying it, examining it.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
That have a good weekend.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
So my h moment would be I want I want
HD footage of these tic tak things lying around. Yeah,
I want That's what I want. I want the I
want the footage. I want the clearest day footage of
these vehicles that specifically the Air Force pilots have seen
because we see the radar image, but it's tough. I mean,
(37:24):
I get it, it's real, it's there. I don't deny
that that's actual footage, but I want the real, clear
HD version of these things zipping around and grace you
looked you looked confused.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
When you say tictac. Yeah, do you are.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
You talking like shape or size?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
It's not like a little mosino sized.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
No.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
So one of the one of the most compelling interviews
that's been done.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I don't know how many years ago. It was now
ak like probably five about.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Five years ago, there was like three different Air Force
pilots that went out and observed these white, large, about
the size of a fighter tic tac shaped vehicles coming
up from the water and then shooting off at ridiculously
high speeds to what And I have some audio of
him in just a moment representative timber Chat we mentioned earlier.
(38:12):
He was saying that the physics surrounding the movement of
these vehicles, if there was a human inside, you would
have been turned into a packet of ketchup, like you
just you can't you could not physically survive the movement
of these vehicles.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Okay, So is that why people say that there might
be aliens living on the bottom of the estion?
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, there was testimony of a there's there's I shouldn't
say testimony. He was in an interview there's an interview,
don't want the fighter pilot and a completely reputable guy
I meant to believe he still works in the in
the Navy. And as a matter of fact, I heard
on the way in this morning that oftentimes the pilots
don't want to disclose what they come across, and sometimes
they'll go so far as to even destroy some of
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the footage that they may have received on their flight data,
because when they do, they get hauled in for like
a eight hour interviews to have to go through a
debrief on what they experience, and they all go through
the same rigamarole, and it just becomes, you know, a
waste of time. It's kind of like in in close
encounters when they end up looking at the flight radar
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at the beginning of the aircraft as it passes the
plane and you're just seeing it from air traffic control,
and the guy.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Goes, do you want to report something?
Speaker 2 (39:22):
He's like, no, I wouldn't know what to report, and
I don't want to do the paperwork either.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
And here's the thing, right, So when you go back
and you actually look at the Congressional record of what
has already been disclosed and submitted to the Congressional Oversight Committee.
Not only was there this one instance of three coming out,
but there was a repeated amount of incursions over a
two week period off of the coast of North Carolina
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near a base in which this thing that was like
a cube within a cube came out of the ocean
and none of the jets right And this sat here
for almost two weeks, and it happened every single day,
and these jets would not like they tried hitting it
with radar, They physically passed by it. Apparently someone took
(40:08):
a photo, but like this is all part of the
Congressional record. So the question is do you believe these
decorated Air Force pilots or do you think that they're
just blowing smoke? And so, yeah, this I think going
back to the tic TAC video and what would be
your aha moment? It would just be further proof of
clear evidence that we can interpret versus just radar. The
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tricky part is that when you actually start to release
this information, it could release or show some of our
capabilities of our military. And that's what the argument is
of why they don't want to disclose this stuff is
because it would tell our enemies our capabilities and we
don't want to necessarily do that. So it's interesting because
(40:53):
when I looked at you know, I had GROC give
me an analysis of what has been released so far,
and it's basically FBI files in regards to UFOs from
nineteen forty seven to like nineteen sixty eight. But it
does have photos and eyewitness testimonies from people that were
vetted of what they actually saw at crash retrieval site.
(41:14):
So again that's the government acknowledging that they grabbed something
like literally from a place, and they're telling people like,
this is an FBI report that we actually did retrieve.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Some type of some type of craft from something. Wow.
Speaker 13 (41:31):
Any alien being getting a news conference, this is nothing new,
shoot me actual proof of being.
Speaker 14 (41:43):
Wow Der John Sam I guess I don't think there's
anything that could be released that you're going to get
all the people to say, yeah, we believe we live
in a world now where everything is fake or AI
generated and the skepticism the day.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Then you bring in the fact that it's the.
Speaker 14 (42:02):
Trump administration, so all the left is going to say.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
It's bowl gata.
Speaker 14 (42:07):
So in my opinion, I believe there's extra trust your life.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
But that's my opinion a good day.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
We have some audio to share coming up just after
the top of the hour and hour three here on
the show. Representative timber Chet is on the latest Joe
Rogan podcast, so I grabbed a few clips from him.
Will continue to take what your what would make you
go wow? When it comes to alien disclosure? Would you
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guys be shocked to know there's a lot of jokes
rolling in right now? No way, yeah, a lot of
talk of dim doos and things of things.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Of this nation right now. I'm curious. I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
We will get into and play some of your comments
coming up, and let me let's close out this hour
with this because I'm gonna a few emails rolling in
and I want to I want to sort of lay
out where my head is on this with approaching the
topic this morning, just discuss seeing what they're releasing and
having the discussion like we are. I know a lot
of people are reaching out, Like I got a couple
(43:05):
of emails here of individuals saying, you know, John, you're
a Christian, you know, don't be deceived. God did not
create aliens. These are fallen angels. And for the sake
of our conversation, this morning, we're just talking about what
they're releasing. There's plenty of time to go and have
a discussion about what these actual beings are or are not.
So when we talk aliens, when we use that terminology,
(43:28):
it's just a generalization broadly about the topic, and it
doesn't necessarily mean that that's specifically what I am saying,
these these particular entities or whatever is disclosed are.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
But I don't even think the administration is making that
case because what we're what the what the slogan seems
to be is interdimensional beings, right, so there is space
to if we get real proof of some kind, there
is space of still like this doesn't disprove no.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
God or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
In fact, like I think, I think if it is
what AK says it is, it actually verifies that, like
there is an unseen realm here that goes in and
out of this world, which I find fascinating.
Speaker 7 (44:14):
For those looking for a picture in ht image of
the aliens, all you gotta do is turn on MSNBC
or MS NOW whatever it.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Is full of aliens, lizard people in there, skid have
a great day. Wow,
Well, look at that right out of the date.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Trump administration releasing UFO and alien files, and.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Is what we told you.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We said it when happens started happening at seven o'clock.
I'm looking at the h the Fox News the screen
right now, so Peter Noosey apparently.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It looks like he's got a hard drive in his.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hand that has information on it.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Very exciting, such good stuff. This is your super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Oh man, this is fun. I just listen.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I just liked the spectacle of it. I like the
mystery of it.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
M as sci fi nerd, I get it.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
But this is fascinating to me, and I want the
government to release the information and let us as humans,
you know, responsible adults, and decipher it for ourselves. Representative
Max Rymer joins us in studio. I am very interested
to find out the level of concern or interest from
Grace Keating, center of the American Experiment this morning. So
(01:02):
you are you up to speed on this? Do you
care at all about alien disclosure?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Okay, I'm psyched and uninformed, which is.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
The best, awesome place to be, a good place to be.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
See.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
That's how I want every single listener of the show
psyched and uninformed. That's why we're here, all right, So
we'll get into this. They're releasing some information right now,
so we'll get up to speed here as ak Kamara
is making his way in and we will be asking.
I'm going to hold off on the question, okay, because
I anticipate we're gonna get a lot of responses, so
(01:33):
I'm just gonna hang. I have a UFO disclosure related
question that we will ask the audience this morning. Now,
before we move on to some of the items that
has been going on during the legislative session, let's go
back to the iHeartRadio app. You're on and off topic
comments all morning long on a Freedom Friday.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Lolring Josh, the guy that called in if off the
boss load of that crashed alien.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
It was an old twilightele Okay, so that's what I thought.
That's what I thought.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I appreciate the creativity, but it was gonna go over
my head and doesn't He was telling the story about
an old Twilight Zone episode. Usually I'm pretty familiar with those,
but it's been a long time.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I don't blame him for him assuming that you knew
exactly what he was talking about. It's not on him,
not on him at all.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I think he used to do the I believe it
was over New Years they did the Twilight Zone marathons.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yes, I had the default to him because you, I know,
I know, it's like my my degrees of ages. It's
me and then it's Sam, and then it's Max and
then it's Great Grace and I am just like sitting
here exactly so I can tell where the.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
The funny thing is, I don't remember that episode. I mean,
I believe it, but the one that stands out to
me was the alien, the little mini Aliens in the attic.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Do you remember that? Yeah, Twilight Zone.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
Yeah, yeah, I won't spoil the twists on that one,
but there's a pretty big twist.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I think you're okay if you I think you're okay
if you do, I don't guess, like sixty years later, yeah,
I think I think you're I think.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Spoiler or On a black and white television show.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
The woman is convinced that there's little mini Aliens, and
at the end of the episode it's that the little
mini Aliens are actually American astronauts on an alien planet.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
So alien that was so good. Yeah, awesome, that was
a good one. That was a really good one. Yeah,
that was a great episode.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
All right, Sam, doing me a favorite to put you
to work, Yes, sir, So, as they're releasing this information, now,
can you just gather up and just kind of give
me a synopsis of what it is that they're detailing
because they're talking with Trump and stuff right now. So
all right, let's go here. Minnesota House approved a bill
to establish a statewide Office of Inspector General to investigate fraud.
(03:34):
With bipartisans support the bill, we'll now move back to
the Senate. It proposed as a compromise where the Bureau
of Criminal Apprehension will handle the law enforcement duties for
the OIG until twenty twenty eight. The OIG is expected
to cost at least twelve million dollars annually and will
be established in twenty twenty seven and work alongside the
(03:55):
existing agency inspectors General. So Max, first up, do we
know where we're pulling the twelve million from?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Well, the twelve million is just going to be a
general expense to Minnesota. Minnesota, and I had some heartburn
about that price tag, right, But what you have to
keep in mind is when you look at the past
few years, we've had nine billion dollars or more in fraud.
If a new Office of Inspector General costs twelve million
dollars a year to save US a billion dollars a
year in fraud.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
That's a pretty good return on investment.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Now, well, I've also heard that I had I had
somebody that a friend of the show pat he do
you emailed me let's just keep it anonymous for crying
out loud justice at iHeartRadio dot com. But there's some
commentary out there that we already have. A former legislator,
Jeremy Munson I had put out there that we already
have an Office of Inspector General. It already exists. So
(04:45):
I just to kind of paraphrase like, almost this new
office of Inspector General was unnecessary because we already we
already have one. So can you can you co to
sort of rectify his criticism?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, So within every agency in minute, so there's an
inspector general mechanism where they are meant to basically self
audit their own books, figure out if there's bad expenditures
or if there's fraud that's being committed. What this office
does is create an independent body that both investigates and
proactively goes after fraud and frauds. There's bad expenses, potential vendors, recipients,
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that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
And my only contention, all.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Due respect to former Representative Jeremy Munson, if we had
if the agencies were doing their job, if we just
expected them to self police, we would not have the
fraud epidemic that we have.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Now. This independent position is going to have the.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Power and the oversight among all of the agencies, their expenditures,
the people receiving the money to actually proactively catch and
go after fraud. Yes, he's right. Within the agencies, we
have inspector generals. Within different areas of government, we have
inspector generals. Our contention here was that they weren't doing
their job good enough, and therefore we can created this
(06:00):
independent position.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
What brought the the DFL on board with this because
they'd been shooting it down.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So why did why?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Why did some end of crossing over because I'm assuming
not every I mean, what was the what was the
wash to five?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
So that's not that's not too bad. Well, they're backed
into a corner.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
They have an election coming up and they are going
to have to try to rectify their response to the fraud.
So in the House position, the bill that we created,
they folded on almost every single provision that they wanted
to Keep in mind, we weren't talking that long ago
that they wanted to basically have a bill that gets
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passed that has no provisions in it. They wanted to
delete everything from the proposed inspector General. But I think
everyone knows that they have an election coming up.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
What is the Is there a Senate expectation, could this
get could this get held up there or in the
in the in the Senate when they when they get their.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Hands on the expectation is that the Senate will take
the exact House language at this point. So overall, and
again I'm not going to lie to the listener. If
it's a bad bill, I'm going to tell you it's
a bad bill. Yesterday we did two things. We did
the inspector General and we did compliance with the federal
government's work requirements for welfare recipients. Yesterday, I felt like
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it was the most substantive important day that I have
had in the legislature.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
We'll move into a conspiracy territory coming up when we
talk UFOs applying conspiracy to this. I can't help but
wonder if with Amy Klobush our last Sunday, coming out
and giving her comments about wanting to tackle fraud and
doing all these things, if those dfllaers in the house
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felt like, Okay, we kind of need to lean into this.
Now Amy's actually acting like she's running. She's talking about
doing things. This should have been done already, and it
might have sort of cleared the runway for them to
go and you know, hop on board the plane and
to take off.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
It was very could have been that, and it could
have been like this relief that I don't have to
defend Tim Walls anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
For some of that's dim Walls, Tim Walls. But it
was fascinating to watch.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
You saw the vote, one hundred and twenty seven votes,
most Democrats voted for the bill. It was interesting to
watch yesterday how it was like, oh, you guys, do
admit that we have a fraud problem. Yeah, that this
is not imaginary.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Yeah, I forget how recent it was that you had
people like Tim Walls saying that the fraud was made
up or there wasn't any evidence of fraud happening.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
In Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
It is shocking if you go back and listen to
him saying that how recent that happened.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, he was saying it two weeks ago on Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah,
he said he was ignoring it. This happens in every state.
We are no different than any other state.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
And it implied that Trump made up the fraud story
so that he could come in and use force.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I mean, it makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
And then you get like the flip side of it
when he does.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
The expect for the next eleven months for me to
ride you like you've never been.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Ridden, and he was talking about fraud.
Speaker 8 (08:59):
M h.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And he hasn't done anything. Well, I guess he's writing
his book. I guess he's writing good.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Good.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I'm just gonna say too.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Well, over the last like four months, Tim Malls has
been absent.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, he's not writing me. Yeah, he's not doing anything.
That's good. That's good.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Certain, just happy for you.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
You can you can.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
You don't have to ask that question via the talkback.
Do you feel written on Max? Max has not been
written on by Governor Jim Walls.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
You've got to stop talking, man.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That's that's good to know. That's a sigh of relief.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
Guys. My concern is the Office of Inspector General is
well downstream of the fraud. Where you have to catch
the fraud is at the policy level. Stop funding nonprofits
and NGOs. That's where the real problem lies, and that's
where it has to be fought, because if the money's
not going out to these organizations, then you don't have fraud.
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That's where it's fixed.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
All right, Coming up, we're going to tell the story
from exclusive from Alpha News. Jay Lani Hussein, executive director
of Care Minnesota, received over one hundred and ten thousand
dollars in taxpayer payments for an adult foster care program
that he ran from his home. Now he's not been
accused of wrongdoing at this time, but been questioned by
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Alpha News he wouldn't answer any of the questions. And
also immediately when this was exposed, he apparently removed any
information and any of his name two attached.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
To the daycare. Oh that's what that's what innocent people.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, that's exactly what what innocent people do. So we
will provide you the details on this. Your RNC Committee,
man Ak Kamaras should be joining us. SAM is gathering
information relating to what the first of the Trump UFO
files may have revealed and will of course hear from
you and the iHeartRadio app. Your talkback's brought to you
by Lyndahl Realty along with Grace Keating and Max Rymer.
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On a Freedom Friday, You're listening to Twin City's News talk.
He's not writing me. It's good to know. Take anything
away from today's show.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
He's not writing me.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Twin City's News Talking Am eleven thirty one oh three
five FM on a Freedom Friday, A disclosure Freedom Friday.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Man, if I know this will never in a million years.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Happen, but like, how awesome would it be if the
studio behind Steven Spielberg's disclosure, like if it's I'm if
it's done, because usually they're working right until the release
day I think comes out like in June.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
How great would it be the like the heck with it,
let's just put it out today.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
That would be amazing, so smart, right, I would go
see that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Right now it happened, I could save Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Kind of the conspiracy about that movie though, was that
they had access to some of this information and.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Were like revealing it.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
That was they had inside information, the conspiracy around that movie.
It's Twin City's News Talk AM eleven thirty one oh
three five FM and on the iHeartRadio app Max Rymer,
Grace Keating, and ak Kamara is in studio.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Okay, We're not going to go fully there because I
do want to get to this care director operating the
taxpayer funded adult foster care and then we'll get into Aliens.
But to your question, yes, the new Steven Spielberg film
Disclosure that comes out later this year. The theory around
it was that he had access to real government information
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and the film was intended to be a part of
the disclosure, right, which is really interesting when you consider
they are releasing this information now. Spielberg has downplayed that,
so he wasn't privy to any sort of any sort
of information whatsoever. Right now, everybody is speculating that this
is actually a direct sequel to Close Encounters. So that's
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what the other scuttle on it is. So it looks
interesting to me. I mean, I love Spielberg film, so
I love Aliens. All right, So we do have information
to share, but let's go ahead and go here. First,
Alpinus learned the ex executive director of the states a
Council on American Islamic Relations Care was on the receiving
end of more than one hundred and ten thousand dollars
in taxpayer payments over six months for a publicly funded
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adult foster care program.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
That he ran from a Rose Mount residence. It must
be a big house, shocking, So it's fairy, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You can get a big enough home where you can
run a business out of that. I suppose his multiple
homes maybe. What's more, According to the exclusive to Alphinus,
Alpha News contacted Jay Lawnie Hussein for comment on April
twenty ninth, his name and a phone number were curiously
immediately removed from the license record.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Like people not understand a wayback machine and you can
actually archive, and especially a government website. There's a bunch
of people that are archiving stuff every single day. Like
what I'm like, just a war on.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
It's also why and Julani I know, I don't know
him personally, I know of him very well. It's like,
this is not shocking at all, but it gets to
this point where like deleting something, yes, it almost does
more damage.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, just keep it out there.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Absolutely answer your questions about it, move on the moment
you delete or the moment you comment on, like you
reply to yourself and comment on the context of whatever
the tweet is. Just you're better off letting it burn
out for three or four days.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
One of the biggest life lessons I ever learned, and
you will not be surprised that it came from a movie,
was Harrison Ford playing Jack Ryan in Clear and Present Danger.
At the beginning of that film, there is a boat
that ends up being pulled over by the Coastguard and
on it there's some murdered individuals on the boat who
ran it, and it turns out that it was running drugs.
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The boat was running drugs. One of the individuals involved
in this was an American who had worked for the
government that was friends with the President of the United States.
So Jack Ryan's in the room with everybody as they're
discussing how they're going to handle this in the media,
and one of the president's immediate handlers said, we need
to distance yourself from this as quick as possible, and
(15:14):
Jack Ryan is in the corner going, no, that's not
what you do, you know, typical Jack Ryan fashion. He's like,
what are you talking about He's like no, He's like,
you own it. You say we weren't just friends, we
were best friends. We were lifelong friends. There's no point
in defusing a bomb after it's already gone off. And
I was like, yeah, that's a really really good job
writer on that film, Bengal. You taught me something. Apparently
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Jay Lawney Hussein did not see that film. A screenshot
so shows Hussein's name listed alongside Hassan on the license
So he's led, by the way the Minnesota Chapter of
Keer since twenty fifteen and was until days ago listed
as the license holder for the adult foster care program
alongside Fardoza Adon Hassan.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Not again, his name's been removed.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Right, the phone number previously listened on the licensed record
match the number listed for Hussain in multiple care press releases.
The Minnesota Aging and Disability Resources website continues to list
Hussein's name alongside the co licensee of Hassan. And again,
you get to the end of the piece here and
it does say Alfen News found no public instance in
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which Hussein disclosed his role as a license holder of
the taxpayer funded program that has collected one hundred and
ten thousand dollars while publicly commenting on similar programs under scrutiny.
All inquiries to Hussan have gone unanswered. He's not been
accused of any wrongdoing at this point in time. So
the only thing that, in my opinion, that he has
going for despite the fact that he stupidly went and
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removed his name, was with all of the focus on
fraud right now, right, I mean, would you have still
been that closely aligned or would you not have gone
and taken care of that prior to this particular investigation,
Or maybe I'm just giving people too much credit.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Yeah, listen, I think it's actually indicative that he probably
has so many fingers and so many pies of taxpayer
fraud money that he's like, oh, that this is probably
one of my smallest side forgot.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
About that one.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
And I'm not joking, like, I think that's the only
way that you would have that kind of oversight with
everything being as public as it is, he probably literally
forgot that this was one of his like little schemes.
And it does speak to the larger point I've been
saying this forever. This is by design and it comes
from basically the top level of Democrats and then all
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of their you know, surrounding organizations that then go and
teach people. If you want to make money, this is
part of your business portfolio.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Is defrauding the taxpayer.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
Now, I will say that I don't think that their
main goal is to tell people going just to fraud
the government. They're just saying this is an easy way
to get money, and no one ever checks anyways, So
like mail it in bud And I think that that
then gives people again setting the bar on the floor,
people if you do that, are just going to barely
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step above that bar. And so maybe there's like one
or two people and then there's a bunch of people
that they just lie about all the time. And I
think this is indicative of that exactly when you have
a guy like again the director of care who probably
makes one hundred plus thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Easy promise, easy, Yeah, And this is just a side house,
so like he lives in.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
Rochester, I believe, and then he has this house in Rosemount,
I believe. So that is even further like, well, why
do you have an adult daycare center in a place
that you don't live.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Well and to what this adult foster care is supposed
to be doing. According to DHS, this is a home
based residential option for adults age eighteen and older who
need help with daily living. The programs are reimbur through Medicaid,
meaning taxpayer dollars flow directly to the providers for housing
and care of vulnerable adults.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Alpha News.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
As you've seen how he balances operating a home foster
care program. Do that with his role as executive director
of Care Minnesota while also running Zila Consultants, of business
he created to develop and offer cross cultural training workshops
on East African cultures, where his co licensee Hassan also
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works as a consultant in Hassein did not respond to inquiries.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Are crazy. This is all a really bad look for this,
for this dude. I am, I am.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I will say that I'm optimistic isn't the right word,
but I am pleased to see that there is a
more open conversation happening about the Somali community involvement in
all this fraud, because you've got to get past all
the claims of racism to talk and get to the
core of what's actually been transpiring here.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
And there's a really great piece. There's a lengthy piece.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I didn't grab it for the show just because again
of its length, but it was a lengthy editorial on
the Daily Wire from one of their one of their
reporters where they get into this They get specifically into
the Somali culture, the issue of the clans within the
Smali community. We saw that breakout recently with the violence
that took place and the shooting that occurred earlier earlier
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this week in Saint Paul. So we're starting to be
able to have these discussions more openly because you have
to get at the heart of what is taking place here.
And you have ninety percent of the Somali community that's
conducting this fraud, and we're finding out that this is
what individuals are being told in Somalia before.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
They come here.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Come to America, you can open up these programs, you
can take money, taxpayer dollars in Minnesota is one of
the best places to go and do it. So if
we're going to tackle the problem, we have to be
able to have an open discussion. And it looks like
we're finally, even though those calls of racism are occurring, Finally,
you know, seeing a broader discussion on that particular point.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I was just going to say, John, it's not just
come to America. We are being talked about in refugee
camps in Africa.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Come to Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Specifically, that got talked about on the House floor with
the Office of Inspector General. Numerous cases of us being
talked about again in halfway camps, basically saying you need
to go to Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
That is where you can pull off your big drift.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
All right, we'll get some more of your comments coming
up on Twin Cities News Talk. Also, I'm looking at
the article right now Trump administration releases highly anticipated files
documenting UFOs and extraterrestrial life. And of course we'll get
to your comments on the current topic about our Director
of Care and his side a hustle here on Twin
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Cities News Talk.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
Listening to your account yet more fraud perpetrated by our
Somali friends and neighbors. I'm reminded of how Tim Walls said,
We're a generous state. So I like to encourage any
progressive listening to put your money where your mouth is
and start a gofund me whereby we not only fill
the budget hole left by the fraud, but can also
continue funding these entrepreneurs. I have a feeling once it's
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personal conference versus state, you'll become suspiciously stingy.
Speaker 10 (22:26):
As said before, the fraud is not slowing down in
the state of Minnesota. There's nothing being done from preventing this.
The fingerprint centers where these people are going to get
fingerprinted to become managers, presidents of health care facilities, adult
care facilities, childcare facilities are being swamped with Somali's getting
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fingerprinted and getting authorized to take these positions and com
get the fraud still going on.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Nothing slowed down. Well, hey, John, it's Eric from Fridley.
Speaker 11 (22:58):
You've heard me say this before, and I know you've
probably never put this on the air, but when is
the Democrat Party of Minnesota going to be investigated as
a crime organization because that's what it seems like they're
doing all the time. It's too much coincidence for it
to be coincidence. All of these things happen only with
the left, only with people associated with left, only associated.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
With the leadership in the party. That's all I got
to say.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I understand the frustration on that, but you still have
to tackle this in real world terms. You go the
other out and you're just going to be met with,
you know, eye rolls, eye rolls and groans and people
that aren't going to take you seriously. Your frustration is appropriate,
it's legitimate. You know, nobody's denying that. But you still
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have to go about the regular means of tackling these
these issues. And to what we were talking about a
moment ago here on Twin Cities News Talk on a
Freedom Friday, We've got dak Kamara Grace keating from an American
experimentative Max Rymer in studio. I think it is important
that I think it's more important in my opinion then
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instead of looking at the Democrat Party like a criminal organization,
is moving past the negative commentary when you bring up
the specifics about the fraud taking place and specifically the
Somali community. We need to be able to have this
open discussion without being worried about being labeled racist because
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we're not talking about it through that lens. It has
nothing to do with the color of individual skin. It's
all about the behavior and how one particular community is
being encouraged to go and conduct this, and that's where
I think it's more important to go and focus if
we're looking at getting at the heart of the issue
and tackling the issue overall.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
Yeah, I mean, listen, people oftentimes will explain to me
their grievance doesn't air them just like that talkbacker that
they feel like not anything is being done.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
But that's just literally not true.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
I mean the fact that the Office of Inspector gen
bill finally passed in the House, and on top of that,
it was like obviously overwhelmingly supported by Democrats as well.
And I just even read a story just today that
the Department of Justice is indicting people that were committing
pandemic unemployment insurance fraud. That we're high ranking members of
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Congress staff.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Okay, but this is the thing.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
The wheels of justice do turn slowly because, like I
said on these airways before, we have a legal system
that presumes you are innocent until what proven guilty. So
you know, it's frustrating, but the wheels are moving, they
are churning, and you are seeing more and more indictments.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
And I actually do.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Believe that there is a criminal element to the DFL
and I think that they are being taken down. Like again,
it's like screw by a screw, not even brick by
brick to be able to bring down the latter pieces.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
But it is moving. You're seeing movement.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
And I will just say, when you want to talk
about fundamentally the Democrat Party being investigated as a criminal organization,
the tip of the spear is an investigation that is
ongoing right now, and that is the smurfing that happens
with the Act Blue Platform. So as it's come out,
the Department of Justice is investigating the Democrat fundraising machine
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as old people who don't actually donate, their names are
being used to donate, and there's this funnel of money
that can't be traced back that I believe is going
to be the core of what brings down that party
as a potential criminal element.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Is this smurfing that happens.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
And by the way, Amy Klobashar has big problems with
that right now.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
It's important to remember too, it's not just that they
have to prove cases against individuals. In order for justice
to be brought, they have to have an air tight
case against individuals. You can't just have a certain some
low level of proof. You have to be ready to
know that your case is going to win and so
that's why these things take.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So much time. And you might say, well, look at this,
look at this, look at this.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
You can tell that there's body, you can tell that
they're guilty, but that's not high enough standard for them
to bring that case forward.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, and that's and thank you for the commentary, Grace,
because that's where the individuals that talk about arrest walls.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
You know, lock them up and all that.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Like, I get it, I know what you're seeing, but
none of us, for the most part, are legal experts.
In what Grace said is absolutely accurate. Right, you have
to be able to deal with the issue in a
rational way and the way that we go and deal
with our you know, criminals and our system of justice.
Got a question for for Max, Good morning, John, great show.
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Thanks as mask crimer. What's going to prevent the Inspector
General from becoming just another political party hack like the
House Fraud Committee voting straight down party lines. Yeah, have
you threatened them for their other ramifications so they go
to the gallows if they don't go and do their job.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
So a lot of that is caught on the on
the front end.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Now there is the ability to remove an Inspector General
from the legislature, so very similar to like an impeachment process,
if you will. But basically, the inspector General comes from
an advisory commission, which then also includes the governor, and
then there's a Senate confirmation that has to happen on
the front end, so the Senate has to confirm this
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person as well. So on the front end, what you're
saying is this person, if they are a party hack,
if they've been proven to be a party hack, that
there are guardrails in place for how this person gets appointed.
And then on an ongoing basis, if this person becomes
egregious or it's obvious they're not doing their job, or
there's malfeasance, there is a removal process as well. So
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a lot of those guardrails have been created in this office.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
All right, let's turn our attention over to the White
House began releasing UFO files this morning under President Donald
trumpsall order. The initial release includes pilot materials video as well,
but not all forty six uf videos are requested by Congress.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
So I want to start here.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
David Grush, still working for the federal government, has been
at the forefront of I guess you would call him
the whistleblower He's done in the Congressional the Congressional hearings
sharing his testimony. I have a quick clip heading into
today's disclosure from David Grush on a recent podcast.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Chuer Woman Luna right now is asking the Department of
Defense to declassify about forty six videos.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Some of those videos I've seen.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
They're interesting, but they'll certainly prove the case that I've presented.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
But I think.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Luna's very smart to exercise that process, and you know,
threatened subpoenaing those records and getting those in the receipt
of Congress. And I think as the administration starts releasing things,
and I'm speaking on my personal behalf here today, but
I would recommend, you know, professionally to Congress to start
using the.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Power of subpoena.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
They already have the lists of some of these hostile
folks that ran those programs.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
So here's the question as we move into this.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I'm looking at the article right now, and we'll talk
a little bit about what's been released so far, and
we are hearing this is the first of many releases
and sort of a slow rollout on this is the
question to you friend of the show, leave us a talkback,
or you can email Justice at iHeartRadio dot com. Click
the red microphone to leave us a thirty second message
on the app. What would make you go wow when
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it comes to alien disclosure of everything that they could release,
what is like the one thing that they would put
out that you would go, oh, Okay, I get it now,
because I think a lot of people are jaded to
max what you were saying earlier. Much of what's been
released today is information that has gone out before, but
(30:54):
on the fringes. Wall Street Journal has put it out.
We've seen some in congressional testimony. I'll give you the
details here in just a moment. But I'm curious to
hear from the friends of the show or folks. What
is it that the Trump administration could release that would
make you just go oh, it's just oh my god,
oh my gosh. So leave us a talkback, drop an
email Justice at iHeartRadio dot com. They did release the
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first batch of never before seen files and videos of
Unidentified Anomalous phenomenon as part of the effort to increase
transparency on government knowledge of the extraterrestrial phenomenon. The latest
UAP videos, photos, and original source documents from across the
entire United States government are all in one place. No
clearance is required. Although Sam was just telling me that
(31:38):
the website was already down, it's up again. Oh is
it up again? Now?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Okay traffic was I like, how we're just getting live updates.
You guys are just constantly refreshing the way here. It's
up again.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Oh it's down again, So clear clear your cash.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
While past administration sought to discredit or dissuaded Americans, Trump
is focused on providing maximum transparency to the public, who
can ultimately make up their own minds about the information
contained within the files. The release is a function of
Trump's presidential unsealing and reporting system for UAP encounters, the
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Pursue program. Photos from the initial disclosure, which the White
House official told Fox News at the first of a
series of releases, shows strangely shaped objects captured on film
during Apollo twelve and the Apollo seventeen missions, including one
photo from the surface of the Moon that appears to
show a cluster of three tiny dots in the sky.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Game game on tiny Dots in the sky, Give me the.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Three dots can suggest they might be stars.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
They might be.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Here's the thing I believed for a long time that
we actually, you know, aliens make perfect sense not to
mention an experience that I had when I was sell
resolved with my best friend, so it wasn't just myself,
it was both of us experience this thing. And I'm
more interested in the actual technology because if there are
either interdimensional beings or entities, or they came from far
(33:08):
far parts of our galaxy, they have to have some
type of propulsion system that is far above and beyond
anything that we understand, and that to me is more
fascinating because I actually follow a guy.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
His name's astroon Forbes.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Some people think he's a little bit kookie, but he
talks about something called zero point energy, and it's this
idea that we could truly eradicate energy scarcity if we
can pull energy from basically another dimension and we could
use it to power everything. That's what I'm more interested
in is will we get some actual disclosure that we
actually have exotic materials, we've been re engineering them or
(33:46):
engineering them, and that we have the ability to actually
solve a lot of these things. So like the Strait
of Horror moves becomes moot because we have the ability
to have a either fusion device or we have the
ability to generate limited energy through the vacuum of basically
what they call zero point energy. That's what I am
most concerned about or curious about.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
That will be the.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
AHA moment for me, because then it will just prove like, yeah,
I mean, if we got aliens, but you can't tell
us how they got here, anything that's not that interesting
or fun to me.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
So my oh man moment, what the aha moment? The
oh wow moment? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
And I don't mean to be like too cynical about this,
but I feel like we have seen so many videos
come out of like random blurry photos of spacecraft or
potential spacecraft. If I got an HD picture of an
actual being, yeah, where it's like, oh that's what they look.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I think that's when this whole thing for me, John
would become a reality, like oh wow, like we have
captured one of their crafts or they crashed, and like
that is a photo of something that is not human
but is humanoid. That would be the moment where I'd
be like, all right, my life changes.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Now You're You're not the only one two words, the bodies,
the bodies. That's what you want.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
You want the you want the bodies, and then you
can claim he's not writing me grace. Do you have
do you have an O wow moment?
Speaker 5 (35:19):
My moment would be I think, like you're so welcome
my like at a record or a recording or some
proof of like communication between us and an alien species,
whether that's like verbal or even like clips in I mean,
I don't I don't know what I'm talking about, but
(35:40):
blips in the radio waves or something, and like clearly
whatever sending a signal back is is like organic.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
That would be for me, like, oh my gosh, it's real.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Because for me, even like the alien body thing would
be compelling. But today I'm still like, oh, you could
fake that. That could be well me, you know what
I mean. Like, but for some reason, the idea of communication.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Like I don't know, yeah you could. You know.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
It'd be interesting if a lot of the theories that
have been put out there, whether it's three body problem
or any of these other kind of UFO series that say, oh,
like the language of the galaxy is mathematics and that's
how we're able to communicate, and they actually like prove
that to be true. I think that would be Again,
a more fascinating to me is something that I want
(36:21):
to know their technology.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
That's it, man, let's make life cooler.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
So Grace, I hate to go and rain on your
alien parade, but we've already had a circumstance where we've
heard aliens speak ill late to effect the strategy to
mobilize true in inter i shubberge of pressure.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Only aliens can understand what he's saying.
Speaker 12 (36:42):
Good morning, John morning reference to what would make me go.
While with today's disclosure that they have had a spacecraft
or a being in their possession for years and are
studying it, examining it.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
That have a good weekend.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
So my h moment would be I want I want
HD footage of these tic tak things lying around. Yeah,
I want That's what I want. I want the I
want the footage. I want the clearest day footage of
these vehicles that specifically the Air Force pilots have seen
because we see the radar image, but it's tough. I mean,
(37:24):
I get it, it's real, it's there. I don't deny
that that's actual footage, but I want the real, clear
HD version of these things zipping around and grace you
looked you looked confused.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
When you say tictac. Yeah, do you are.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
You talking like shape or size?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
It's not like a little mosino sized.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
No.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
So one of the one of the most compelling interviews
that's been done.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I don't know how many years ago. It was now
ak like probably five about.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Five years ago, there was like three different Air Force
pilots that went out and observed these white, large, about
the size of a fighter tic tac shaped vehicles coming
up from the water and then shooting off at ridiculously
high speeds to what And I have some audio of
him in just a moment representative timber Chat we mentioned earlier.
(38:12):
He was saying that the physics surrounding the movement of
these vehicles, if there was a human inside, you would
have been turned into a packet of ketchup, like you
just you can't you could not physically survive the movement
of these vehicles.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Okay, So is that why people say that there might
be aliens living on the bottom of the estion?
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, there was testimony of a there's there's I shouldn't
say testimony. He was in an interview there's an interview,
don't want the fighter pilot and a completely reputable guy
I meant to believe he still works in the in
the Navy. And as a matter of fact, I heard
on the way in this morning that oftentimes the pilots
don't want to disclose what they come across, and sometimes
they'll go so far as to even destroy some of
(38:52):
the footage that they may have received on their flight data,
because when they do, they get hauled in for like
a eight hour interviews to have to go through a
debrief on what they experience, and they all go through
the same rigamarole, and it just becomes, you know, a
waste of time. It's kind of like in in close
encounters when they end up looking at the flight radar
(39:15):
at the beginning of the aircraft as it passes the
plane and you're just seeing it from air traffic control,
and the guy.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Goes, do you want to report something?
Speaker 2 (39:22):
He's like, no, I wouldn't know what to report, and
I don't want to do the paperwork either.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
And here's the thing, right, So when you go back
and you actually look at the Congressional record of what
has already been disclosed and submitted to the Congressional Oversight Committee.
Not only was there this one instance of three coming out,
but there was a repeated amount of incursions over a
two week period off of the coast of North Carolina
(39:46):
near a base in which this thing that was like
a cube within a cube came out of the ocean
and none of the jets right And this sat here
for almost two weeks, and it happened every single day,
and these jets would not like they tried hitting it
with radar, They physically passed by it. Apparently someone took
(40:08):
a photo, but like this is all part of the
Congressional record. So the question is do you believe these
decorated Air Force pilots or do you think that they're
just blowing smoke? And so, yeah, this I think going
back to the tic TAC video and what would be
your aha moment? It would just be further proof of
clear evidence that we can interpret versus just radar. The
(40:31):
tricky part is that when you actually start to release
this information, it could release or show some of our
capabilities of our military. And that's what the argument is
of why they don't want to disclose this stuff is
because it would tell our enemies our capabilities and we
don't want to necessarily do that. So it's interesting because
(40:53):
when I looked at you know, I had GROC give
me an analysis of what has been released so far,
and it's basically FBI files in regards to UFOs from
nineteen forty seven to like nineteen sixty eight. But it
does have photos and eyewitness testimonies from people that were
vetted of what they actually saw at crash retrieval site.
(41:14):
So again that's the government acknowledging that they grabbed something
like literally from a place, and they're telling people like,
this is an FBI report that we actually did retrieve.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Some type of some type of craft from something. Wow.
Speaker 13 (41:31):
Any alien being getting a news conference, this is nothing new,
shoot me actual proof of being.
Speaker 14 (41:43):
Wow Der John Sam I guess I don't think there's
anything that could be released that you're going to get
all the people to say, yeah, we believe we live
in a world now where everything is fake or AI
generated and the skepticism the day.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Then you bring in the fact that it's the.
Speaker 14 (42:02):
Trump administration, so all the left is going to say.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
It's bowl gata.
Speaker 14 (42:07):
So in my opinion, I believe there's extra trust your life.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
But that's my opinion a good day.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
We have some audio to share coming up just after
the top of the hour and hour three here on
the show. Representative timber Chet is on the latest Joe
Rogan podcast, so I grabbed a few clips from him.
Will continue to take what your what would make you
go wow? When it comes to alien disclosure? Would you
(42:34):
guys be shocked to know there's a lot of jokes
rolling in right now? No way, yeah, a lot of
talk of dim doos and things of things.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Of this nation right now. I'm curious. I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
We will get into and play some of your comments
coming up, and let me let's close out this hour
with this because I'm gonna a few emails rolling in
and I want to I want to sort of lay
out where my head is on this with approaching the
topic this morning, just discuss seeing what they're releasing and
having the discussion like we are. I know a lot
of people are reaching out, Like I got a couple
(43:05):
of emails here of individuals saying, you know, John, you're
a Christian, you know, don't be deceived. God did not
create aliens. These are fallen angels. And for the sake
of our conversation, this morning, we're just talking about what
they're releasing. There's plenty of time to go and have
a discussion about what these actual beings are or are not.
So when we talk aliens, when we use that terminology,
(43:28):
it's just a generalization broadly about the topic, and it
doesn't necessarily mean that that's specifically what I am saying,
these these particular entities or whatever is disclosed are.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
But I don't even think the administration is making that
case because what we're what the what the slogan seems
to be is interdimensional beings, right, so there is space
to if we get real proof of some kind, there
is space of still like this doesn't disprove no.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
God or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
In fact, like I think, I think if it is
what AK says it is, it actually verifies that, like
there is an unseen realm here that goes in and
out of this world, which I find fascinating.
Speaker 7 (44:14):
For those looking for a picture in ht image of
the aliens, all you gotta do is turn on MSNBC
or MS NOW whatever it.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Is full of aliens, lizard people in there, skid have
a great day. Wow,
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