Hour 3: AK Likes the Smell of Women; Darin Hoover Joins

Freedom Friday is going strong! Jon is joined by Gold Star Father Darin Hoover to honor the memory of Darin's fallen son, Staff Sgt. Taylor Hoover and discuss an upcoming event in Minnesota this weekend. A foe of the show insults Jon's guests which ignites a flurry of talkbacks. Sam needs help to do his job. The gang is divided over dogs and cats.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
All right, well, we're waiting for our guests to call back.
This actually provides an interesting opportunity Twin Cities News Talk
Hour three on a Freedom Friday. I'm so happy to
have the guests in studio from the American Experiment podcast.
As we go around the room, we have Grace Keating,
Catherine Johnson, we have businessmen and RNC Committeeman Ak Kamara.
We're gonna talk more about the filibuster. I have some

(00:26):
other off the beaten path stories relating to this that
we will get into. And of course, on a Freedom Friday,
we do take your on and off topic comments all
morning long from the iHeartRadio app brought to you by
Lyndahl Realties. Let's go to the talkbacks. What do you say, guys, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Good morning, this is the show from Dean Prarie. First
of all, one of these two broods add to your show,
add nothing. They should be home baking cooties. And again,
I thought you said a few weeks ago they did.
Democrats that all the power, all the time. The Republicans
can just fill a bus to bust it up in it.
Just remember you guys won't be in powerful long that sure,

(01:06):
it's time you guys will be out of power, have
a good weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Okay, So, because what we're gonna do, and this is
really unfair, I'm gona let you guys do for a moment.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Cookies.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, why don't you guys head to the breaker and
make some cookies. Well, we talked to our guests this morning. Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
He did that intentionally to try to go and get
a rise out of you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
I just I'm not risen. I will say I'm honored.
Bacon cookies.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
I've never been called a broad before.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
This is a big day for you.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Maybe should add it to the podcast title next week
just to make Phil happy. You can do that, all right,
So we'll get back to this coming up. I'm sure
we'll get plenty of comments that are rolling in regarding
that here on the iHeart Radio app. So while those
come in, I'm very pleased to go and welcome to
the show. Gold Star Dad of Darren Taylor Hoover. It

(01:53):
was one of the thirteen heroes killed at Abby Gate.
We are joined by gold Star Father Darren Hoover.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Good morn d.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Thank you so much for joining the show this morning.
It really is an honor to to speak with you.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
Good morning, sir, and I definitely appreciate the opportunity. I'll
talk about my son and what happened any day of
the week.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
So first off, I know you're gonna you're here in
uh Minnesota for the weekend.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
What brings you here to the state?

Speaker 6 (02:22):
Well, a friend of mine by the name of Lewis
Uh he's uh, he's the one with that tribute jeep
on Facebook, beautiful jeep with all the names of the
fallen from Iraq and Afghanistan, and and that brought me
up here uh for the VFW Marine Corps bal Uh

(02:45):
here in Prior Lake and uh yeah, So it's it's
gonna be a good time tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Let's talk about your son, when that when that happened,
When that event happened, I remember, I think like many
of us did, uh you know here on the air
when that entire tragedy unfolded. You know, it hit a
lot of us, hit a lot of his hard continues
to do. So I can only imagine what it must

(03:13):
have been like for you and your and your wife.
I know there's a foundation in your son's name. We
can certainly talk about that as well. But let's just
start off talk a little bit about your son, if if,
if my information is correct, your son Taylor had wanted
to join the Marine Corps at a very early.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
Age, right correct, you know, growing up, his mom relates
the story better than I do. Of course she remember
better than than I do. But you know, growing up
he those little green plastic Uh, he didn't call him
army man.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
He called the.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
Marines and was always playing with those, you know, grew
up he was always a little bit bigger, taller, you know,
whiter than than a lot of his friends. And uh
played football from the age of eight and again was

(04:12):
still one of the bigger ones, you know, so we
had to play the line. But just a just an
awesome kid. I mean, you know, if you needed a
hand up, he was there if you if you needed anything,
he was there. You know, we'd be at for instance,
at the store and he'd struck up a conversation with anybody.

(04:36):
He didn't care. That's just the type of kid that
he was, you know. And family came first. His his
mama and his sisters were were his whole wife and
he lived his life that way. You know. We we're religious,

(04:57):
and he was. He was a part of that as well,
just an honorable, good, good young man.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
I know that he was ultimately promoted to staff sergeant
E six by the Marine Corps. Was stationed on board
a vessel in the Strait of Ormuz in twenty twenty
one prior to being called up to deploy to Afghanistan.
Did you have when did you find out that he
would be going to toa cobble And I'm curious, and

(05:27):
I'm curious again talking with gold Star father Darren Hoover,
whose son Taylor was killed at Abbey Gate along with
those those twelve others. Were you aware that he was
being positioned over in Afghanistan? Do you do you recall
when you when you found out and what were your
what were your thoughts?

Speaker 6 (05:47):
Yeah, he was actually on the chesty poller out in
the straight gathering intel with his with his guys, and
you know, we okay, he's there. You know, the the
the stuff in cobble started going off and I get

(06:10):
a sorry, a cryptic text from him saying, Dad, I
can't tell you where I'm going. Just watch the news
and you'll figure it out. Yeah, but just understand that
I'm with a bunch of kick ass guys and I'll
be okay, And a couple of days later, he was

(06:33):
he was.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
In cabble, I was reviewing a bit of what it
had transpired leading up to that date on August twenty sixth.
Was there any way that you know, you and your
and your wife could could possibly be prepared for what
transpired after?

Speaker 4 (06:53):
You know, afterwards?

Speaker 1 (06:54):
I mean, obviously, your son serving in the military, there's
always a risk involved. But you know, is there any
way that you could be prepared for for what ended
up ultimately taking place on that horrific and tragic day.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
No, there's no way obviously, you know, like you said,
he's in the military, so that that's always in the
back of your mind. You know that the kay, something
could happen, and that's always stuck in the back of
your mind. But you know, Taylor, Taylor had his head
on his shoulders. I mean, good gosh, ka'd He'd been

(07:30):
in the Marine Corps eleven years. This was his third
trip to Afghanistan, you know, and and we thought, nah,
it can't happen. You know, he'd call his mom every
day and tell her how messed up things were over there,

(07:51):
that he'd never seen anything worse than what he was
dealing with but that he was okay, he was okay,
everything was going good. He was trying to keep his guys,
you know, on top of things and morale up and
and you know, everything else. And it just that day hit.

(08:13):
And of course we're I'm getting I'm heading to work
two hours out of town, two and a half hours
out of town, and you know, his mom lives in
Missouri now, and we're talking back and forth. We're I'm
listening to the news, I'm as i'm driving up. I've

(08:34):
been watching a little bit of it before I left,
And you know, we're talking back and forth. And the
first time, the first time that we talked, she was
she knew something was going on. She knew she'd been crying.

(08:59):
She was trying on the phone with me, you know,
and I'm trying to console her, being you know, being
a She's trying to console her, and she's talking and crying.
We said a couple of prayers together, and we hung up.

(09:20):
About thirty forty five minutes later, she called back, trying again,
and I don't feel good about this. There, I don't
feel good about this. Something's happened. He's not answering his phone,
He's not answering his texts. Nothing. You know, in the

(09:42):
back of my mind, I'm still trying to say, no, no,
it's not him, it can't be him. Sure, he's too
he's too quick of a kid, he's too smart, he's
been here before. And we proceeded to cry together, prayed

(10:03):
a couple more prayers, and then hung up. And it
wasn't a couple hours later that my dad called me.
And i'd been I was staying with them and then
working during the week and going back home on the weekends.

(10:25):
And you've got to understand something. My dad never cries.
I've seen the man cry maybe twice in my entire life.
And I get a phone call from him and he's crying,
and he said, there's two Marines standing at her door.

(10:47):
Right then and there, I knew exactly what it was.
My numbers had continued to tick up, and yeah, it
wound up being he was one of them.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
We're speaking with a gold star father, Darren Hoover Son Taylor,
one of the thirteen Euros killed, a heroes killed at
Abby Gate.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Do you.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Know it's been three years, which really isn't isn't isn't
that long? And you know I you know, I think
I speak for for most everybody listening that you know,
we can't forget what transpired in this in this event
and the heroes like your son that gave the ultimate sacrifice?

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Do you show up the politics.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Aside on all of this in the in the wake
of of what had of what had transpired, you know, obviously,
you know a lot has been said about why we
were there and what took place that led to the
events on on August twenty six.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
I'm just I'm.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Curious from your from your perspective now, with the focus
obviously on his memorial and the scholarships, and we'll talk
about that in just a moment, do you push the
politics aside or is that still combined with the grief
that that you and your family indoor.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
No, it's it's very much at the forefront. There's a
there's a lot of anger and angst coming from me.
There are we've got what's called the Abby Gate Coalition,
and we're seven of the thirteen families that are together.
We've been to Washington, d c. U testified before Congress

(12:28):
the houseboldn Affairs Committee. We went to California with Congressman
Isa uh testified there at the roundtable. You know, we've
been with the President, the vice president of the current administration,
not the last one. We actually sat down with General

(12:52):
Millie too at one point during all this when when
we were back in d C. For the kids, they
the Congressional Gold Medal in their honor. But no politics
is We've been petitioning Congress. There's a few things that

(13:13):
we would like to see changed, and you know, there's,
like I said, there's still a lot of anger and
bitterness towards the last administration, towards the DoD, towards the
State Department, because things didn't need to happen the way

(13:34):
that they did, and it was because of those decisions
made or not made, that we know more and more
and more about as we as we go along, that
those decisions led to exactly what happened, the chaos and
the crap that happened there for those two weeks leading
up to that faithful day.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Let's wrap on this and again talking with gold Star
Father Darren Hoover, thank you so much for spending time
with us this morning, and the staff Sergeant Darren Taylor
Hoover Memorial. I want to talk a bit about what
is is done through this memorial to your son, Darren.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
Yeah. Absolutely. Shortly after Taylor was killed, his mom started
the foundation and it is the Staff Sergeant Taylor Hoover Memorial,
And through that we receive you know, uh, donations, and

(14:35):
those donations go to scholarships for kids just getting out
of high school, maybe been out a here trying to
figure out, you know, what's going on.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
But those that.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
Contribute to society, you know, through honor, courage, commitment, the
tenants of the Marine Corps, and they can be awarded
a scholarship to a you know, uh, normal college or
to a trade school. And those have been those have

(15:13):
been awesome to watch. And then my my daughter and
son in law started up another branch from the from
the foundation still a part of it. Donations go to
both the scholarships, and we have now started doing uh

(15:37):
service dogs for worthy veterans, and so far we've given
away I believe we just gave away number six or
number seven. So the dogs get trained there, they're paid
for and trained in Missouri and then send out or

(15:58):
driven out to the very is military members throughout the country. Uh.
The latest one being we went to Boise, Idaho, and
there was a veteran that had that had come in
from I believe Washington or Oregon had met us there
and so that just to see the transformation, you know,

(16:22):
not only with the dog, but to see that initial
meet up with the veteran and the dog and see
that shee that come to a fruition and it's just
it's an awesome thing to behold. You know, I was
a I was a canine handler in my before I
retired as a as a police officer. So my daughters

(16:44):
and my son and obviously their mama grew up during
that time when I had, you know, a couple of canines,
and so that was near and dear to my daughter's heart,
and that's why that part of it was was also started.
So well.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Darren Hoover again gold Star dad of Darren Taylor Hoover,
one of the thirteen heroes killed at Abbygate.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
We thank your son for the service as well giving
the ultimate sacrifice. Thank you for the time this morning
we actually heard via email from the owner of the
tribute to Jeep and I know that you will be
enjoying your time here in Minnesota, and thank you so
much for spending time with us this morning and talking
about your son. We greatly appreciate it. I know the

(17:32):
listeners do as well. And again, I hope you enjoy
your time here in the state with what you're involved
in this weekend. And thank you for joining us on
the show this morning.

Speaker 6 (17:42):
I appreciate it very much, sir, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Good morning.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
This is so from Dean Prairie.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
First of all, one of these two brids add to
your show to add nothing they should be on bacon cookies.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Just wanted to get everybody back up to speed. Foe
of the show, Phil left that talk back prior to
the conversation that we had, and it was such an
honor to talk with a gold star father, Darren Hoover.
If you missed that, you shouldn't check out. The podcast
be available on the iHeartRadio app once the show is finished.
This morning in studio Ak Kamara, RNC Committeemen and business owner.

Speaker 7 (18:22):
Good morning, and the at least one thing that these
two ladies add is a very wonderful aroma.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
In this studio.

Speaker 7 (18:30):
Women smell good, and I, as a headosexual male, like
the smell of women.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
So yeah, shout out to good smelling women.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
I don't even need to I don't.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
It's true, and I'm glad you you know, I wasn't
gonna say it, but such what happened.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Ak left. He comes back, He's like, Wow, that studio
smells great.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Smells great.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
First I thought it was me because I put some
product in, and then he that was wrong, I assume,
and then he.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Goes it smells like women like, you're right. I don't
even need to argue what you two bring to the show. Okay,
that being said, there are many listeners who wanted to
come to your defense. Did you guys, By the way,
do you guys have any comments for film wow response?

Speaker 5 (19:17):
If he wants a real response as.

Speaker 8 (19:19):
To why we do the podcast, we do things like this,
which is that women, especially in the gen Z demographic
and millennials to some degree, are not on our side.
They're in huge numbers voting for people like Zo ran Mom, Donnie.
I ran into it all the time in college. To
these people who are completely misled by things like feminism

(19:41):
and these really toxic ideologies that exist on the left,
and there's a place where they need to hear from
people that are in their own demographic.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
Preaching conservative views.

Speaker 8 (19:55):
I think that's extremely important and crucial to saving our
country and saving these women from those toxic ideologies like feminism.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
That only hurt them.

Speaker 8 (20:05):
So hopefully we can provide a voice that is going
to help guide them to a better light, to the
promised Land.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
The Promised Land.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Aamen.

Speaker 8 (20:16):
My less eloquent response would be I've also never had
the get back in the kitchen line used on me.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
So it's a big day rocking up.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
A lot of points, especially from the left.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
I know always because they larp.

Speaker 7 (20:28):
They don't actually care about these things that they pretend
to care about. They only do it for power. At
the end of the day, I think that the things
that you two ladies add to the show is just
a different perspective, Like isn't that something that we actually
want to strive for. Is different people bring different perspectives,
like in actual diversity of the way that life happens
to you, But we have the same general organizing principle.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
So yeah, Phil Man, you need to do better.

Speaker 7 (20:54):
Brother, You're going to be excized from everything that is
left of center.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Well and aunt just posted on X and they smell great.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
So yes, and I mean that's kind of the most important.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yeah, it's not going for truth be told. The only
reason why I invitement on today and the cookies we
bring it on I'm not allowed.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, and the cookies too, but I'm not allowed to
burn any candles in studios.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
I'm like, I just.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Invite, invite, invite the gracer Catherine in and you know,
if I can get them both in the same morning,
double bonus, studios bonus even better.

Speaker 8 (21:24):
And ever since Ak quit smoking, I will say the
aroma on his end is improving as well.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Smelling goodness.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
I'm just feeling like I'm over here on an island.

Speaker 9 (21:36):
Right us Phil from Florida visiting up in Minnesota this week.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
I just heard Phil's.

Speaker 9 (21:43):
Comment a few few minutes ago. I will have to say, Phil,
you are one of the most disgusting people I've ever heard. Yeah,
there's no way that you have any right and you're
just a typical Democrat.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
All you can.

Speaker 9 (21:55):
Do is attack people personally. You have nothing else than that.
I think you should be ashamed of yourself shape.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
It's so indicative.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Listen, Phil left that talkback because he wanted me to
play it right.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Of course he knew what he was doing.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
I don't really believe that he believes what he's what
he's saying. He doesn't ever have an original thought. He
has MSNBC on he grabs a couple of talking points.
I don't know if he jots it down on a
pad and then regurgitates it on a talkback or not,
but he knows what value you guys both bring to
the show. It's not even a point that needs to

(22:30):
be to be argued. But I like to take those
moments because it is very indicative of the left right now.
This Oh, I'm going to trigger those individuals, but it
provides really good opportunities to, you know, have for their
discussions and have a discussion that we wouldn't have ended
up having if it hadn't been for his inane comments. Also,
it gives us the opportunity to award the talkback of

(22:51):
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Speaker 9 (23:03):
John Gang, Phil leaves to stick to his task to
making bathroom brown.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
He's in this early in the morning.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
I mana sure talk back of the Day brought to
you by Minni Leaf and minileaf dot com.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
Please don't start talking about it again.

Speaker 10 (23:21):
Good morning, Happy Freedom Friday, John, Catherine Grace, and Ak.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
I think you should invite Phil In to be an
in studio guest.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
I think that would be great.

Speaker 11 (23:31):
I'm sure everybody in there would love to see a
hi to him right about now.

Speaker 10 (23:34):
Maybe you can just change Phil's last name to a Buster,
so you can be Phil a Buster or Guy's a Buster.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Have a great Friday. Wow, people are on fire today.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I was a little too quick to award the talkback
of the Day. I think that was a little bit
more apropos. No, I would not invite Phil into the
studio because it would be awful.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
It would It would be horrible. He would have he would.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Have no I mean you want to talk about not
bringing into the table, would be Phil in studio live,
not having a legacy media television in front of him
to give him all of his lines.

Speaker 12 (24:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
What's really funny is like you find this all over
the place if you go on any YouTube shows. Most
of the time when you have like a typical left
leaning individual when they're live, they are awful because they
don't actually pay attention. They just read talking points and
they actually can't flesh out their own arguments. They'll say
one thing here and then you say, okay, well what

(24:31):
do you what does this mean over here? And they're like, Oh,
I don't really know too much about that story, so
I don't want to speak on it.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
And plus it would smell really bad in here. Phil
came in here, so.

Speaker 10 (24:40):
We Oh my god, Phil, I knew you left these
hated women, you know, on account that you want guys
to beat them up in any sport.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
We'll just stop it there, because true, true, that is true.
This is what this is what Phil would sound like
if he went and hosted his own show.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Okay, ye, what.

Speaker 11 (25:01):
Number do people call to get on the air, and
do we have that number? That's interesting. You might not
feel it. You might not feel the energy right now,
the swell of what's happening here. I'm Alec Baldwin and
this is my brief but spectacular take on why I
was born.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
To host a public radio talk show.

Speaker 11 (25:21):
If you don't call, we're going to keep reading from
the Scientology Manual.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
That is a essentially, it would sound like oh Man Studio.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Okay, So We're all way way off on time, so
we got to take a break. We'll be back with
the final segment here on Twin City's News Talk on
a Freedom Friday. So happy to have our guests in
studio and all of the valuable commentary that they give
us every single Friday morning, along with making the studio
smell great. We'll get back to more of that coming

(25:49):
up here on Twin City's News Talk AM eleven thirty
and one oh three five FM.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
I is a heterosexual male like the smell of women.

Speaker 12 (26:00):
How dare kill assume they are women? Yes, they have
feminine names, but we have no idea if they actually
identify as women. How dare Phil assume it? What is he?

Speaker 3 (26:18):
A bit?

Speaker 1 (26:19):
I'm fairly certain that Grace and Catherine's husbands would have
something to say about all of that, although.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
You know, you never know who am I to judge?

Speaker 5 (26:27):
I have one of those x's on my license getting
read up on a huge conundrum.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Twin City's News Song final segment for a Freedom Friday.
Grace Catherine from American Experiment, ak Kamara and MC master Control.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
Sam is in the booth next door.

Speaker 10 (26:42):
Yeah, thanks John, Actually, so I need your guys to
help with something just really quick. I usually don't. I
usually don't do podcast titles on the air, but I'm
gonna throw this out. Do we do phil a Buster
or do we do AK likes the smell of women?
What do we think is for the AK likes the
smell of women?

Speaker 4 (27:01):
Catherine, Yeah, yeah, I like that one. O Grace, I
like Pilobuster.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
But are both winners, So it's okay.

Speaker 7 (27:07):
I A is a heaterosexual male like the smell of women.
It's true. And my wife shout out to Smoopy smells
amazing all the time. Even she's like, oh, I need
to take a shower. Yet I'm like, you smell amazing.
So I'm a guy you always smell.

Speaker 8 (27:23):
Guess someone needs to do the Joe Biden sniff.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
But AK, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Do not sniff people, all right.

Speaker 7 (27:31):
I just think that because I don't smoke, like, I
can smell a lot better like you.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
You do gain like.

Speaker 7 (27:37):
Your sense of smell back pretty quickly. You don't realize
like how much like when you're just housing down two
packs a day, you just lose your sense of smell
and kind of taste.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
He has a new lease on life and.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
Smell Yes, with all due respect, that's a bunch of
a Markie.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
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local community is coming together in a help in an

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effort to help struggling those struggling without the Supplemental Nutrition
Assistance Program benefits during the shutdown. You get into this
piece and then it talks about how the Chicago Animal
Care and Control was able to host a pet food
pantry to support pen owners impacted by the recent SNAP
benefit pause. That's all fine and dandy, but Snap doesn't

(28:37):
offer free pet food. Are you surety? I am fairly
certain at least that's what I saw. Or do you
know otherwise?

Speaker 7 (28:47):
So technically humans can eat dog food.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
They do make a point in the story where they
do not want people eating the pet food.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, you don't what I mean.

Speaker 7 (28:58):
But if you're starving, you eat, probably gonna eat the
dog food.

Speaker 5 (29:01):
But nobody is star.

Speaker 7 (29:03):
I'm just saying, maybe can you buy Here's what I
do know for a fact, because I was actually shocking
all I went with my sister to a food shelf.
My sister in this entire conversation about people starving and
all this stuff is so absurd because there are so
many churches that are offering these services, there are so
many food pantries that are offering these services. But when

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my sister would go to the food pantry, they were like,
here's cat food, here's cat litter, like all of these
different things. Now she didn't need it because she didn't
have a cat at the time, but I was like,
holy cow, Like they're literally at food shelves giving pet food.
And my whole thing is like, if you can't take
care of your pet, my goodness, maybe you shouldn't have
a pet. Like when you see homeless people out there

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and and bums and.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
They got dogs, I feel so bad for the hot Well.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
SNAP feels the same way because you cannot buy pet food.
Snap money benefits are restricted to food and plants for
human consumption.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
And yes, they do say do not eat the dog food.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Do not eat the dogs sounds like it sounds like
a sounds like a scam, but.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
You can't eat the dugs.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
It does give me an opportunity to go to this story.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Though, pet owners are going after the Associated Press after
the outlet published a video suggesting that pets make climate
change worse. The video, posted to social media, said that
pets worsen climate change by needing food and high meat content.
The video also recommended that people seeking to own a

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pet avoid breeders and instead adopted pets without owners.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
I don't have a problem with that.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
I also don't have a problem with somebody wants to
go and get a very specific dog from a very
specific place that somebody wrote from the people who brought you,
you will all eat bugs. It comes sacrifice your your
pets for climate change. It's interesting, though, because the fake
meat and bug protein that all kind of died, that

(30:54):
went away. You and I were talking about that a
couple of years ago, and the whole the fake meat
craze popped up, and that's suddenly kind of just went
along with all of the criticism of the East Wing ballroom.

Speaker 7 (31:04):
Yeah, I mean I have a little bit of a
conspira conspiratorial take on this. I think that it went
away because they've just integrated all the cloned meat into
our beef supply. That's what I personally think, because if
you remember, there was this back and forth about whether
or not they should have to label lab created meat.
I'm not talking about like the fake meat, because they

(31:25):
have to label that because they want to market it.
But my understanding is that you do not actually have
to label cloned meat. And so my fear is that
it's just all up in our beef supply and broad
eaten clone beef.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
You know what, Please don't start talking about it again.
I'm just wondering back to the free dog.

Speaker 8 (31:46):
Food pertly, who is just feeding their dog whatever they
can get.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
Their hands on. My dog would not do well. He
has a sensitive stomach.

Speaker 8 (31:57):
I mean, if you switch his food, he's like a mess.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Part of this has a has a chicken allergy, which
is really difficult because like when it comes to foods
for dogs like chicken, like there's chickens like in all
of it, Like it's hard to find it without chicken machios.
She's very, very very sensitive tummy on my puppy beans.

Speaker 7 (32:15):
He's like three years old now, but he'll eat everything
and uh we he was getting a little fat and
the vets, like you might want to lay off of
giving him everything. That you eat all the time. But
he's lost three pounds recently, so you know, because we
haven't been feeding him in as much. But he'll eat
anything that I give him anything, And so if I
mean some, he'll just sit there hemo big and I'll

(32:36):
give him, you know, a little little bite cat. You
say the cat or dog dog, it means the Boston
Terry more like a cat.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Dude to me, Oh, I hate cats.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
I guess I was wrong.

Speaker 7 (32:48):
I think that they are demon spawns. Okay, I don't
understand why people own cats. They are worthless. They don't
do anything that is beneficial you. I was not just rude.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
I hate cats. My mother in law has a cat.
I hate it.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Something tells me the grace is a cat person.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
Everyone in my life hates cats. I don't understand, like
the intense cat hatred.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
They have no loyalty.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Every day it works.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
So not sure I own cats.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
I've had cats.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
You have cat angels.

Speaker 8 (33:17):
You have cat little free angels who want nothing more
than to love you and per when they see you.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
I'm with you, No, I'm with you. I'm in the
dogs now.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
But I had cats before when I was younger, and
cats are.

Speaker 8 (33:29):
Funny like cats will do some really funny stuff if
they're If they're around, and they'll just hide and then
come out and jump around.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
That's nice.

Speaker 7 (33:36):
Listen, when you're sick, your dog will come and be
chilling by you. Your cat is like, I hope you die.

Speaker 11 (33:41):
You've had the wrong cats, That's what I'm getting out
of this.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
You've had the wrong cat.

Speaker 9 (33:44):
Well.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
I did have a traumatic experience where I spit doritos
at my cat when I was five, and when my
mom found out that I was doing it to the
family cat, she then too doritos and spit them back
at me.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
But maybe that's why.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Well, speaking of cats, I had this story. The unofficial
mayor of a busy San Francisco street is dead after
being struck by one of Waimo's self driving cars.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Uhuh get paid.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
This unofficial mayor went by the name of kit Cat.
This was a beloved cat at Randa's Market run over
by an automated car back on October twenty seventh. He
was rushed to the hospital by a bartender working nearby,
but unfortunately was pronounced dead on arrival. Kit Cast's death
has sparked an outpouring of fury and sadness from those

(34:33):
who loved him, and questions about the dangers posed by
self driving cars. Randa's market owner told Rolling Stone magazine
he was a special cat. You can tell by the
love and support he's getting from the community that he
was amazing. Anger in the community has increased after it
was revealed that on the same day that Kitcat was
killed the waymos Ceo said that he thought society was

(34:56):
ready to accept deaths caused by automated cars. The kit
Kat's owner pointed out at the time that the death
could have been that of a child, not just a
beloved pet. I have not been in a self driving
car yet, and I'm not eager to get into one
I have. I'm bad enough with just other drivers in

(35:16):
being in cars. I can't imagine just a self driving car.

Speaker 7 (35:19):
Yeah, in Vegas, I did a self driving lift, and
then I've done a weimo in Phoenix, So okay, oh yeah,
that's cool.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Have either of you you broads o? I'm pulling that
from Phil.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
By the way, for those that have just now joined
the show, have either of you been in a self
driving car?

Speaker 4 (35:35):
And would you go in a self driving car?

Speaker 6 (35:37):
No?

Speaker 8 (35:37):
But yes I feel like totally. I mean, and cats
is a small humans bigger I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Once I think I think Waimo.

Speaker 7 (35:46):
I think Waimo hates cats and they've actually programmed their
waymost to hit cats, and I think it's a service
to humanity.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Thanks your podcast, Cats, Small Humans, Bigger.

Speaker 10 (35:58):
I appreciate Catherine education there what what the more?

Speaker 4 (36:03):
You know?

Speaker 10 (36:10):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (36:10):
They knew and they let it happen.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Catherine Johnson, thank you very much for coming in studio
this morning.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
You're welcome.

Speaker 6 (36:19):
Everyone.

Speaker 8 (36:19):
Please check out the American Experiment podcast. Grace and I
have so much fun and you will too.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Check about YouTube Grace Skating, thank you as well for
coming in this morning.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
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Speaker 1 (36:46):
Sam, thank you so much for the work this morning.
Absolutely rand Sam.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Thank you for your cheap knowledge.

Speaker 6 (36:54):
Sam.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Are you a dog or cat dude?

Speaker 3 (36:56):
But definitely dog?

Speaker 6 (36:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Right, I knew it. Okay, I go both ways.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Wait, WHOA take that clip that have.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
A fantastic weekend, everybody. If you miss the show, check
out the podcast Talk to You Monday.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
Bye,