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March 10, 2026 37 mins
Jon gets called out by a listener and does a deep dive into the cost of vehicle registration in Minnesota and other topics from the current legislative session. MN Sen. Jim Abeler joins to discuss the latest from St. Paul and his bill to help educators.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, John, I have the utmost respect for you. I
think you are a fabulous human being. I admire everything
you do every day, except I think you just really
lean into the Republicans saying that they're trying their best,
and all I can say is do better, try harder,
go out there and fight, fight every day, and you're

(00:25):
saying it's only because of the media. I think there
are other ways around it.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's not my job to.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Figure it out, but just try harder, fight harder for us?

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Well, what does that mean? And what is your definition
of that? Thank you for the comments. Welcome to our
three It's Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty one
oh three five at them streaming worldwide on the iHeartRadio app.
You know, fight harder, there are other ways? Well, what
are those other ways? When I hear those criticisms of

(00:57):
the GOP, I'm I'm coming from a very unique position
in what I do on a daily basis, and my
view on this has changed dramatically over the course of
many years because I used to feel more in lined
with the way that the.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Friend of the show was speaking here.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
But I can tell you from my own experience and
perspective that Republicans are doing a much better job and
in almost every single circumstance have closed the gap in
terms of utilizing technology getting the message out of what

(01:40):
they are fighting for better than they have in the past.
Democrats had a major, major advantage. We're way out ahead
of Republicans and utilizing or emerging technologies and social media
to their advantage. Now, from my perspective, the GOP is

(02:03):
doing at least as good of a job. It's not
just the media. There's a lot more to this, But
I'm online every single day. I spend hours online every
single day. Ask my wife, she will tell you. And
there are more of our representatives in Minnesota, more of

(02:27):
our senators in Minnesota that are engaging in commentary, putting
out videos, responding, doing their own YouTube shows, putting out
content on their own social media channels than they ever
have before in the past. I don't personally find that
it's productive to harp on the GOP to fight harder

(02:48):
and do and do more and no offense. At the
end of the day, they just end up being words.
From my perspective, they are, and I think the talkbacker
really wants. You want results, or you want the confidence
that you could get the electoral outcomes you're hoping for,

(03:12):
but there are no absolutes in any of this, and
I would rather go and support the individuals that are
out there delivering their message as best that they can
call out the fact that, no, the mainstream media is
not friendly to them. But we also have better outlets
than we've ever have before in the past. Alpha News

(03:32):
has been crucial in amplifying the voices of those Republicans
getting the message out there where your typical media won't.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
And there again is another.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Great example of the closing of the gap in terms
of using technology to the advantage of conservatives and spreading
the conservative message and calling out the Democrats for what
they're doing other individuals that are at the forefront of
the fraud fight social influence. Republicans were not in this

(04:03):
position a handful of years ago. We were well behind
in terms of the technology, but we've caught up. And again,
I just not to repeat myself, but I'm going to
I just don't find it productive to continue to harp
on Republicans for not doing enough when the truth of
the matter is they're putting the information out there. But
you can only control what you personally can go and control.

(04:26):
Many Minnesotans expressed frustration about the stubbornly high license tab
fees on their vehicles. Senator John Jazinski, Republican out of
fair vote. If you look at the NADA, the National
Automobile Dealers Association, what's called the blue book in Minnesota,
it keeps that rate of depreciation much higher than what

(04:48):
the vehicle's actually worth, So they're taxing you at a
higher rate than what it's worth. Jazinski author to build
this session to revert the license tab fee to pre
twenty twenty three levels after hearing complaints from its constituents.
That's what I'm hearing from my district and legislators across
the state that people are complaining about their tabs. Jasinski

(05:10):
Toll Channel five. In twenty twenty three, the DFL controlled
legislature increased the licensed tab tax rate from one point
two eight five percent to one point five seventy five percent.
At the same time, the legislature dramatically slowed down the
rate of depreciation for Minnesota vehicles. The result is that
after three years, a new vehicle will only depreciate ten percent,

(05:34):
even though in reality it's probably gone down about forty percent,
but Minnesotans are stuck paying the higher tax rate on
the vehicle value kept artificially high. Democrats say the higher
fees are necessary to raise revenue for roads and bridges
because gas tax revenue is declining.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Just the revolving door.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Stupidity coming from Democrats on this issue knows no bounds.
The DFL Senates trans Inportation Committee Chair Scott Dibble toll
Channel five. I think it's pretty clear we had a
lot of discussions and hearings and debate over how to
broaden and diversify the sources that pay for our roadway system.
So far, Jasinski's bill has been scheduled for a hearing now.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
There was a subsequent bill.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Proposed to eliminate the need for displaying expiration tabs on
license plates. This was the same person that I just
played the audio a moment ago from, and I'll share
it with you again. Representative Meg Luger Nikolai authored this bill,
saying it creates a significant savings for the state by

(06:41):
eliminating the need.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
To produce and ship all the stickers.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
It has no impact on public safety, she says, and importantly,
individuals will still need to register their vehicles annually. This
really just reduces the costs associated with the sticker. Basically,
she wants to help those individuals who don't bother to
go and pay for their registration because law enforcement won't
be able to tell whether or not you have your

(07:08):
vehicle up to date on this registration if you don't
have the fees on the back of the car. And
yet at the same time she's proposing to quinn triple
excuse me, excuse me, quintuple. Get that right, quintuple.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
There you go. You're fascinating to talk to.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
That was for me, by the way, quintuple the rates
of your registration feesable.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Us all to agree on the importance of raising revenue,
and so at some point may offer an amendment to
quintuple the rates of these registration fees so that we
may find other projects in the state that everybody deems worthy.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, the woman's alludatic.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Almost four thousand dollars a year for a two year old,
fifty thousand vehicle every single year, and yet at the
same time she's proposing that we don't require the license
fee tabs on the vehicles.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Make it makes sense, Hey, John, I think that the
legislators in this state to just take all of our income.

Speaker 6 (08:12):
We should just pay everything we earn to the governments
because they obviously know better how to use it than
do we do.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
That's about where Yeah, that's about where we've landed, right.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
James Hurst for the Minnesota Deputy Registrar Association, expressed concerns
about the bill to eliminate the need for displaying the
expiration tabs, saying if individuals do not have to display
the tab, they will choose to forget it.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
They'll conveniently forget it.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
If they are stopped by law enforcement, they will say, oh, geez,
I totally forgot give me a ticket. I promise I'll
pay it. Whether or not they they do, who knows now. Thankfully,
the proposal ultimately failed to pass on a voice vote
tied to the House Committee, with Republicans generally opposing the idea. Hey,
how's about this idea, Let's just stop having.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
To register our cars altogether. That's what. I don't register
my bicycle? Ear ear, I don't.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Let's just save a whole bunch of money.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
These people are lunatics, all right.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
More examples of this coming up in just a moment
have dfllers proposing illegal news, sanctuary state tax also forty
million dollars in a rental assistance package.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Again, it's so absurd.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
On the one hand, this DFL lunatic wants to make
it so you don't have to worry about paying your
registration fees or you know, it looks they're catering to
individuals who vote for dfllers because.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
You and I both know that the majority of us.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Are still going to go and take care of our
registration fees. We're not the type that are going to
go and avoid this. She says, it's gonna save the
state a bunch of money. At the same time, her
side of the aisle is proposing forty million dollars in
a rental assistance package while they continue to try to
exploit Operation Metro Surge.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
I just again, make it all makes sense.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
We'll get to more of your thoughts coming up from
the iHeartRadio app brought to you by Lindahl Realty. Next
here on Twin City's News Talk, I have Foction News
up in studio. We're monitoring the situation in Beroot.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
What I miss.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Have a little tab in the corner monitoring Beyroot. I
mean usually there's a lot of like fighting going on
over there. I just don't know why we're currently monitoring
the situation in Beirut.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
So I can't see the right side of your screen,
so I see Houston up on the top left, and.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
I was like, baby, Yeah, they're also monitoring the situation
of the long TSA lines amid the partial government shutdown.
But we're also monitoring the situation regarding beyroot them all right,
got a lot of ground to cover. We'll get back
to this DFL legislator laughingly, although she laughs about it,

(11:11):
but you and I both know they had the opportunity,
they would do it. A proposal to an amendment to
quintupple the rates of registration fees to fund other projects.
I have some amazing audio to share too, of Representative
Peggy Scott out of and or excuse me out of
andover star Wars on the Brain, how the Democrats blew

(11:33):
through the eighteen billion dollar surplus. You know, we wouldn't
need to do all of this haggling. If you've got
the waste, fraud and abuse under control, you could probably
handle funding everything. If that was the case. Let's get
back to a few of your thoughts though, before we
dive back into the lunacy of the left.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
John, You're right.

Speaker 8 (11:50):
The people that are calling in saying that Republicans have
to do more, they are doing everything that they can.
Can they do more, I'm sure, and they're working on it,
But we, the voters, are the ones that have to
get up butts and get out there and do something.
You're going to have to bolt these criminals out of office.
There's nothing more I can say about that.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
You need to get.

Speaker 8 (12:09):
Out in counter protests, You need to get your positions known.
These people in office are not going to be able
to do that for you.

Speaker 9 (12:19):
Yeah, I gots some advice for the caller that's frustrated
with it appearing that the Republicans aren't doing a whole lot.
What's really going on is we're in such a liberal state.
So it's just it's unproportional and so the easiest thing

(12:39):
to do, and you're going to force yourself to just
accept it for what it is and not fight it.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
It's like the winter time. If you hate winter, then
this ain't your place for you.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
Now.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
In the midst of everything that we've been talking about,
the Democrat Minnesota lawmakers also introduce legislation aimed to create
a climate doing that thing with my fingers super fun
that would require large of fossil fuel companies to pay
fees for damages related to greenhouse gas emissions. The legislation,

(13:08):
called the Greenhouse Gas Pollution Superfund Act, would force fossil
fuel companies in Minnesota that have emitted at least one
billion metric tons of carbon pollution since nineteen ninety five
to shell out a fee for such emissions. How are
they going to track that? John, Your guess is as

(13:30):
good as mine. NFIB Minnesota State Director John Bouchet said
this policy ever comes to fruition, it will result in
higher energy costs for small businesses and higher prices for
the goods that we depend on every single day. Now,
if that wasn't enough, dfllers proposing illegal news sanctuary state tax.

(13:58):
John Feelen, Center of the American Experimentamerican Experiment dot org
has a write up on this, so CBS News reported
Operation Metro surges winding down still some federal immigration agents
in Minnesota more than normal. Some Minnesota House Democrats think
anyone who lived here over the course of immigration enforcement
action should pay state taxes. Conducting federal law enforcements work

(14:25):
is akin to them living here. And on Wednesday last week,
a bill in the House Tax Committee would require those
agents who weren't Minnesota residents but made more than fifteen
thousand dollars in wages while working here to file on
Minnesota state tax return.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I am a hauled.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
The Minnesota Department of Revenue estimates that change could bring
in six hundred thousand dollars. Again to that point, I
will simply stress that time, if you just took care
of the ramp waste, fraud and abuse, maybe you didn't
go and avoid having DHS show up at fraud hearings
to get to the bottom of all this, maybe didn't

(15:09):
shoot down every single fraud proposal put forward by Republicans.
You wouldn't need to go and take these drastic measures,
but it would give us six hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Guy, I mean, come on, all right, before.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
We get to your talkbacks and our next guest, Senator
Jim Abler, here's a bit of Representative Peggy Scott, friend
of the show again, Republican out of andover, talking about Democrats,
the eighteen billion dollar surplus, the pet projects that were
put forward instead of going and addressing the fraud taking place.

Speaker 10 (15:45):
I hope that there's somebody in the room that can
answer it. But if we pushed the restart button on
all this stuff, what would the cost be?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Anybody got a big enough calculator, you know.

Speaker 10 (16:00):
I don't know if mister Tolms has an.

Speaker 11 (16:02):
Idea charatoricalsen Committee members that you know, that's a big
question in terms of, like, you know, hitting the reset button.

Speaker 12 (16:15):
I'll venture a guess, but please, you know, understand it.
It's a guest. I think it would be north of
five hundred million dollars and I think it will set
the state back immeasurably, in particular the people that are
actually waiting for, you know, service from these programmers.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Thank you. Follow up, Chris sam Scott.

Speaker 10 (16:34):
Mister chair, I, as I'm sending through these presentations, I'm
sitting here just getting more and more angry and more
and more frustrated. For the love of all things obvious,
why when we had an eighteen billion dollar surplus didn't
we fix this problem.

Speaker 13 (16:49):
We've known it's existed for a very very long time.
But instead we saw the eighteen billion dollar budget surplus.
They they took two hundred and ninety five million towards
this problem, and it's they're trying to integrate stuff. I
don't know how the it works, but it seems to

(17:12):
me that that would have been a perfect opportunity to
fix this problem forever or for at least the next
you know, ten, fifteen, twenty years, and instead we blew
through that raise taxes nine billion, and now we're faced
with on deficits into the future.

Speaker 10 (17:33):
We have limited funds right now, and I just it's
super frustrating to me. And then we have nine billion
of fraud on top of it, and mostly from the
agencies that we heard from today.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
And yet you have.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Dflers in the legislature threatening to offer up amendments to
quintuple the rates of your registration fees to the tune
of four thousand dollars a year for the average price
of a new automobile.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Paple us all to agree on the importance of raising revenue,
and so at some point may offer an amendment to
quintuple the rates of these registration fees so that we
may fund other projects in the state that everybody deems worthy.

Speaker 14 (18:19):
Good morning, John. So this crushly hatched representative who comes
in with this great idea to quintupple registration fees for vehicles. Yeah,
we're all gonna love that. I think if to quote her,
she would do that to fund all these programs we
all think are worthy. If we all thought they're worthy,
you would need to hold us ransom with our license

(18:41):
plate fees to pay for them.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
What an idiot.

Speaker 14 (18:44):
Great job electing that Democrats.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Wow, four thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
That's about three hundred and thirty three dollars a month
to operate your vehicle in the communist state of Minnesota
and county Soda. That's a lot of damn money.

Speaker 15 (19:00):
John A few comments on the licensed tab Nearly every
new vehicle now is over fifty thousand dollars. Number two,
I thought that they aren't supposed to pull you over
for expired tabs anymore. So how they're supposed to enforce that.
Number three had a buddy and his policy is, I'm
not gonna buy new tabs. I'm just gonna take my chances.
If I get pulled over, I guess I'll deal with it. Then, well,
he did get pulled over, and the state troopers said,

(19:21):
we're supposed to go after you guys, I write your
tickets so you can be brought up for tax evasion,
not just some simple no tabs deal.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Good morning John. As always, I love the dialogue.

Speaker 16 (19:33):
This morning regarding tabs in Minnesota. I have a twenty
twenty four Chevy Silverado EV. I bought it because I
love the technology. It's a fun fuck to drive. Everything
about it is safe.

Speaker 15 (19:44):
I really enjoy it.

Speaker 16 (19:46):
My tabs were thirteen hundred and eighty four dollars. Three
hundred and thirty dollars a with was an EV zero
by the way, I bought.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
It when there was an ev vam.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Dad, I'll ironic is that it's all and what drives
me mad about all this. It's also arbitrary. It's just arbitrary.
They just make the numbers up. They'll come up with
that ridiculous formula. But again that formula is just something
that they are concocting.

Speaker 9 (20:13):
John.

Speaker 15 (20:14):
The way she says twin tupple with a little snicker
tells you that she's not serious.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, she may not be serious now, but again, given
the opportunity, they absolutely would go move forward on something
like that.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Good morning, John, Thank you for the show.

Speaker 17 (20:28):
Great As always, the legislator who thinks it's funny to
talk about quintupling registration fees for vehicles to tab license
fees for vehicles. I think is ridiculous. She thinks that's laughable,
and they know by not requiring it, the law abiding

(20:49):
rule follower Republicans will pay the charge and all the
other ones who are.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Not one hundred percent coming up. State lawmakers proposing cooling
off period for K through three students with disciplinary problems.
Senator Jim Abler's bill would allow schools to send students
with disciplinary problems home for a maximum of one partial
day and one full day after the incident. We're going
to talk with the senator next here on Twin Cities

(21:17):
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Speaker 2 (21:22):
If you're a smart speaker.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
All right, before we talk with our guest here on
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(21:50):
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Speaker 2 (21:55):
Forty John TJ from Northside Today. I have to say
I find it hilarire.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
So you keep calling and over and or I think
we should petition the city of Andover to change the day.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Have a good week, all right.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
First off, congratulations on being the talk back of the day,
brought to you by a mini leads.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Secondly, I only did it once? Did I do it
more than one? Sam?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
No, I thought I just did it the one time,
right once? Yeah, Okay, I can't keep saying it. I
just did it one time. I'm afforded few mistakes, you know.
I'm just I'm just a human being.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Hey, John, I have the utmost respect for you. I
think you are a fabulous human being. I admire everything
you do every day.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, I just do that to make myself feel better.
All right, let's not leave them on hold any longer.
Joining us. Very pleased to welcome back to the show.
It's been a while. Senator Jim Abler, Good morning, Jim.
How you doing this morning?

Speaker 5 (22:49):
Well? It's it's a beautiful morning and the ice is
out on the Rum River, so we're moving along towards spring.
So there's hope.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Well, that's good news.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
I wish I had more to say about the current
state of the legislative of session before we get into
what's been going on in this bill. You're proposing to
cool off kids K through twelve students with disciplinary problems.
What's your assessment so far about how the legislative session
has been going from from your side over on the
Senate side, Jim Abeler, Well.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
There's some days you pray for only a dumpster fire.
I don't know how it.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
I mean, i'd be the good news.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
The administration continues to forge ahead with ideas that they
don't engage anybody with the public providers, legislators. There's an
amendment as a thing today about the straught efforts which
they are working on, which we're all against, and you
know it's it's not a thoughtful time. So I think,
as your listeners, encourage us to keep working and trying

(23:48):
to engage in meaningful successes for running the states in
kind of a thoughtful way, help us do that.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
It seems as if there's a You know, there's a
lot of back and forth going on, lots being proposed,
a lot of that is get installed in committee because
of the divided House.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
This is not a budget year, it's a bonding year.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Any expectation about how the rest of the session is
going to shake out and are you actually going to
be able to finish what technically needs to get done
this legislative session apart from the other proposals that have
been brought forward, well.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
A bunch of us are doing the very best weekends.
And you know, when we went away from a shared
power thing in the Senate last year after three weeks,
you could just steal the chill come in.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
And my voice has been to say, how about.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
Bringing forward ideas that actually might become law, that could
actually pass the House and the Senate and would serve Minnesota.
And there's this one end of political posturing after another,
and that doesn't serve the people, well not at all.
And you know what we're talking about today is just
something else that should just be taken care of and
make the school's work, you know, make we say, eighteen

(25:00):
billion dollars. I just think if you have a students listening,
they could do a paper on how to get the
least out of eighteen billion dollars a Minnesota studies would
be the topic I think you could do now.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
I must have been behind the eight ball on this
talking with Senator Jim abel Er. I was having a
conversation with my wife Melinda last year, and that's when
it was first brought to my attention.

Speaker 9 (25:23):
This.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
I don't know if it's written, I don't know if
it's spoken. Maybe you can help fill in the blanks
on this. But if you have a child that's causing
a disruption inside of the schools, we're evacuating the entirety
of the classroom to deal with the one child. She
told me that, and I was just absolutely Florida, you
got to be kidding me. I mean, when I was
going up to school, if you had a child that
was disrupting the classroom, you would remove the child from

(25:45):
the classroom and you would deal with them outside and
the education could continue. But looking at the story here
and talking about your bill. In Anoka, where my kids
went to school one hundred and forty two times this year,
already classes have been evacuated. Where is this policy? Why
is this happening? Before we get to the solution you're proposing.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Jim, Oh, yeah, Well.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
In twenty three with the trifecta, they were concerned that
kids are being suspended over racial issues, which is maybe
happened somewhere, but not in Anoka, not in the well
run districts that I'm fully aware of. But they were
worried it was a thing. And because of the thing,
then they decided you couldn't suspend a kid for more

(26:28):
than a portion of the day. And since in the
very beginning, that was done also with no input from
the educators, the principal superintendents and the teachers who are
actually getting hurt now because of this, and they've been
stubborn about keeping the policy and it's disrupting classes in
so many cases, there so many kids in the name

(26:50):
of educations.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
So talk about your solution to this and the likelihood
or you know, the possibility of this being able to
pass given the divided nature of the legislatures, particularly in
the in the House.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Talking with Senator Jim.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
Abelod and I don't know why this is a divided thing.
I think that your listeners and you and I would
believe that most of these administrators are on the left
side of center, you know, and so they're actually no
one can accuse them of being you know, unnean or
anything about kids. But let me just read you a
few quick excerpts. I'm a kindergarten teacher. Our schools are

(27:27):
unrecognizable due to the twenty twenty three mandates. From one
my chel came home with reports to being scorn at
kids throwing chairs or pregnant teacher being kicked in the
stomach in kindergarten. Second grader is threatening to bring a
nice to school that poked my daughter. Nothing happened.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
And then there's another teacher that says, I'm.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
Thinking of taken the rest of the year off to
the strain, but I know it would not be shared
to the kids. And so I tried to get three
days last year and was unsuccessful, and I thought, well,
how about a day?

Speaker 6 (27:54):
And the point of a day is so maybe it's
not even for.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
Disciplinary reasons, uh, which you have the impact of that
a little bit, but it would give the school time
to come up with a plan for the child to
actually help make this you know, young student get back
on track. And in the meantime, you know, if there's
one hundred and forty two evacuations. That's like four or
five thousand kid events where it's just up to four

(28:20):
thousand other kids and they have to matter.

Speaker 6 (28:23):
And so I thought, well, how about.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
A day that's how is that.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
For a really reasonable compromise? And so uh and these
are all spontaneous females that came and I've gotten several
more than that, But the administrators and the school districts
are like, we need help, we need relief. How about
a day? Could you give us the date? And it
actually faces an uphill fights.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Frankly, what what are the excuses that you're that you're hearing?
I mean, how can anybody go and and push and
push back on this? Not that I want to give
any credit to those on the on the left currently,
because you know, when it comes to their arguments, and
I'm putting a lot of stock in them, but I'm
just wondering what what it is you're hearing is to
watch this is not getting wide support even across you know,

(29:04):
across the aisle.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
Well, I think it's thank you from lack of paying
attention to the people that live in the educational world daily.
I don't know if you know this, but when someone
goes to Saint Paul and office, they become much more bright.
They were able to look at the state using their
broad experience and decide what's good for the entire state,
even though they may not be expert at that, but
they know that they're the ones to make that decision.
This is a case of that where the rank and file,

(29:29):
universally across the state, superintendents, principals, teachers who love their
kids and want everybody to be treated well, say like,
we have a problems, and all it's we've replied with
is I can't believe a kindergarten would do that. That's
just something's sensible. Yet there's testimony after testimony, and you know.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
Of this then. I mean, we spent two.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Point two billion dollars in twenty twenty three on education,
the most ever usually it's a third of that, and
every district cuts programs because they spend it so badly.

Speaker 6 (30:03):
But you know, just calm down.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
They are the experts. They know how to do it.
And the districts are also begging for flexibility, which they're
not getting. It should matter to have a school board,
to have a school board, So it's just quit having
school boards and let the education geniuses at the state
aside everything.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
I guess talking with Senator Jim Abler again, his bill
would allow schools to send those students with dissimonary problems
a home for a maximum of one partial day and
one full day after the after the incident. So where
is this bill currently and what are the what are
the next steps regarding it?

Speaker 5 (30:41):
Well, it's a waiting and hearing in the Senate Policy
Committee and it's being actually greeted with eye rolls, and like, really,
I mean, I didn't think of this. This came from
people who make this their career. So I'm hoping to
get a hearing. They said, well, you know, we'll try
to be fair here, give Republicans a hearing. And I said, well,

(31:02):
this is the one that I want, and like, oh my,
so it's is it? Are we trying to educate the
kids who were telling up every student learn? Are we
trying to help young kids understand? If you as they
watch a child who disrupted the class and to a
death and injured a teacher and punched a child, a
pregnant woman in the stomach, and they come back to

(31:22):
class at eight o'clock the next day, do the students
also learn that there's no consequences and you know it's
not cuinative, but the messages are all wrong and the
effect on this child is wrong, and it just it's
actually kind of furthers the decay of the education that's
so important that we spend so much money on that.

(31:43):
We want kids to learn, and parents want to feel
confident when their child goes to school that they'll actually
be safe in their classrooms, that learning can occur, and
they should be concerned that maybe parents need to have
an outcry and write right to leg player and say
how can you let this go on? We're not trying
to punish the kid all though, some kids, you know,

(32:05):
need a little guidance. This is the time for the
public to weigh in. And I think your listeners would
be really a good, good vector of that.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, you know, you you you kind of hit the
nail on the head.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
I mean, that's the question that I have is you know,
to the to to the DFL, you know what, what
is it that you expect our education system is supposed
to be there for. You know what, what what are
we actually supposed to be doing on a daily basis
when it comes to students supposed to be educating.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Them or do we do?

Speaker 3 (32:30):
We just want them to be, you know, due to
full DFL voters once they once they get out of
school and they reach that voting age, and I tend
to think it's the it's the ladder there, Senator Jim Abler,
thank you for the time this morning. I know it's
still early on, but I'll ask this last question. Do
you think the legislative session will wrap up on time?

(32:51):
Or is it too soon to tell?

Speaker 6 (32:55):
I would gamble be done on time? Uh?

Speaker 5 (32:58):
And I I don't know what the uh? What do
they call it a thing where you put the fish
when you're our creole? I don't know how soul or
creed will be with quality of work. But frankly, your listeners,
I mean people should listen to you, and then they
should go turn it into action and they should contact
both their Republican and Democratic legislators. The people need to
speak up. And it is an election year and I

(33:19):
think that's common sense comments from everybody. And what do
we think is the best to actually influence people, to
influence the Saint Paul people, they.

Speaker 6 (33:29):
Do a better job.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
Their duty is to serve the people on this on
this radio show and also the one on the left
shows it belongs to Minnesota, belongs to the people, and
the people don't pick up the phone and pick up
the mantle of being a beautiful citizen, then they won't
get what they think they want.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Senator Abler, encourage them. Senator Abler, do me.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
A favor, keep me keep you posted on how this
progresses or doesn't progress. And and I also want to
encourage the audience to get involved and contact your your
senators and your representatives over this issue. And I thank
you so much for reaching out and coming on the
show this morning.

Speaker 5 (34:07):
Well my final thought is people should pray, pray for
wisdom and our leaders and just pray pray to God
for mercy in our great states.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Amen to that. Thank you so much. Let's go to
the iHeartRadio app. Got a couple of comments that rolled in.
Those talkbacks are brought to you by Lindahl Realty.

Speaker 7 (34:24):
From Milake. Elmel Hey. I had my daughter pull a
fire alarm in fourth grade. The school said we don't
suspend fourth graders. I said, yeah, you do. Give her
to me for a couple of days and we'll straighten
it out. She's a great twenty seven year old woman
right now.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
So let's wrap on this.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
When you want to know what democrats are actually doing
in terms of our education system, look no further than
this editorium inside of the Minnesota reformer Spencer Shrman in Rochester,
Minnesota based principal consultant and Education First, a national policy

(35:06):
and strategy organization, former chief of Innovation at the Rhode Island.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Department of Education.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Once again, a credibility statement on this individual that shows
you can be educated a lot and still be an idiot.
The title of this piece is see the whole ice
Berg Ice is in capital letters.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Minnesota. Students need resources to cope.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Spencer writes, large scale disruptions don't end when headlines do.
I learned that to doing the two other crises. I
served as a state education official during COVID nineteen and
as a teacher in posed to Katrina New Orleans. Let
me stop here because what he gets into and I

(35:49):
don't have time to get into the entirety of it,
so let's give you a kind of the bullet point version.
What he gets into here is equating Katrina and COVID
to Operation Metro Surge.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
You know this, and I know this. I'm gonna say
it anyways.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Both of the events that he's using for reference were
natural disasters. He's essentially saying that the democrats overreaction is
akin to an unstoppable natural disaster because everything he lays
out in this is one hundred percent self inflicted. During
Operation Metro Surge, student absenteeism increased on a scale unseen

(36:26):
since COVID through the pandemic. Although the pandemic began nearly
six years ago, our students and schools have not yet recovered.
That has nothing to do with Operation Metro Surge. I
just want to point that out, and to the student
absenteeism increasing to a scale unseen while Operation Metro surg
was going on. That was also one hundred percent self inflicted.
I have no sympathy. The rate of chronic absenteeism today

(36:51):
is higher in every single state than it was before
the pandemic. Again, that's nothing to do with Operation Metro Surge.
Enrollment in public schools is down by one point two
million students, leading to a vicious cycle with reduced enrollment
driving funding cuts students. Test scores are far still far
below pre COVID levels, effectively wiping out more than fifteenth
worth of hard won education gains. All of that is true,

(37:16):
and it all was happening before Operation Metro Search, but
the COVID comparison doesn't quite capture the psychological impact of
students witnessing large scale instability in their communities and the
separation of families, again self inflicted. There's an easy solution
to everything that he's laying out in this For educators
and parents outside of targeted enforcement areas, it may be

(37:37):
tempting to believe that their students and children will not
be affected, but new research shows that inc
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