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March 12, 2026 22 mins
Hour 3 begins with Tom Weiler joining the show to talk about the US submarine attacks as well as his campaign for senate. Then Jon finishes the show by talking about hospice fraud in California.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Human.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Can you imagine being the guy who gets to fire
that missile to sink that ship, right, being the first
guy to do that in seventy years.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Freaking awesome.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
Good morning, John, great show, Best submarine movie of all time,
dust Boat and in the German version, have a great day.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah, I go hunt for Red October.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
That's just.

Speaker 5 (00:40):
Top ten easy. You remove Star Wars out of the mix.
Just take all those movies out.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
We're not going to count them.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
Throws off a top ten list for me, and I
definitely put a hunt for Red October.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Close second would be Crimson Tide.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
Dost Boat's okay, it's a little on the slow side.
What is the that's McConaughey one you five, one, seven
nine is out? The one that was a good one too.
Your talk back of the day is on the way.
It might be submarine theme. We just got off the
line with Tom Wiler running for a senate former a submariner.
We'll get into this marble filled mansion once zoned by

(01:17):
feeding our future fraudster hits the market for.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Two point one million dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
We're also going to hop into the wayback machine and
hear from the fraudster herself before getting convicted, arrested and
convicted of the Feeding our Future frauds.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
So we'll do that.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
Coming up in just a moment. Your talk back of
the day again on the Way, brought to you by
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of talkbacks I didn't get a chance to get to
today when we're working through a lot of material on
the show regarding the bill to claim being errant right

(01:56):
to life for wild rice, and I made the comment
that I hope during the committee hearing the debate over this,
somebody brought up the comparison to abortion, because, as I
mentioned a few times this morning, the same individuals that
supported some of the most extreme abortion laws in the
country are now attempting to go and grant a right

(02:20):
to life for wild rice because Native Americans believe that
it is a living being and a relative. But I
also want to say this too, and it kind of
feeds into the story with the Feeding our Future fraud
going on, you know, while I want to see it
established and I want it on record individuals who supported

(02:42):
abortion and yet at the same time, under the same
rationale that pro life advocates are against abortion. They're trying
to go and claim a right to life for wild
rice of all things. It needs to be said. You
know this, and I know this, but it still needs
to be said the let this care. They thumb their

(03:03):
nose at this type of rational commentary. They're clearly willing
to lie to further their agenda. This was made abundantly
clear in multiple comments from Governor Tim Wallas just this week,
Representative Sidney Jordan, lying on every single point that they
put forward to push back on this federal government tax

(03:26):
credit that one can receive here in Minnesota for donating
money to school that they can get back at the
end of the year. The truth of the matter is
this hypocrisy. They just don't care.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
For them.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
The politics is their religion, so therefore they can establish
whatever rules that they want to establish in order to
further their to further their cause. So I imagine if you
presented a Democrat with that argument of you're in support
of extreme abortion or just abortion in general, you have
pro life advocates out there say that that is a

(04:01):
living person inside of a woman's body that should be protected,
and you're against that. You believe in a woman's right
to choose, but yet you're again pushing a bill that's
trying to give the right to live to wild rice.
They don't care. They're just gonna laugh at you because

(04:22):
they know the reason why they're doing it, and they
have no shame. I still would rather be on this
side of the political spectrum, being able to look at
my family, my wife and my sons, and myself in
the mirror, knowing that I'm not a hypocrite and I'm
not a liar. But I just wanted to point that
out because it's the same mentality of these fraudsters. They

(04:45):
don't care. So before I bring you the details of
the story next, let me leave you and we'll take
a quick break and we'll get to the details of
this Feeding our Future fraudster's mansion that's now on the market.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
But the woman's name was Hannah Merkeegan.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
Okay, she got more than seven million dollars from the
Feeding our Future program intended to feed children during the pandemic.
And I will give you the details as to what
she claimed that she was doing while she was collecting
that seven million of your dollars.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
But this was prior to her.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Indictments, arrest and conviction speaking to a group of individuals.
Listen to she was in the throes of committing fraud,
stealing millions of dollars, and yet listen to the way
that she presented herself to a group of individuals after
being introduced to this organization that was involved in Feeding

(05:53):
our Future, prior to this program being found fraudulent. And
then I'll comment on the other side of the break
here on Twin City's News Talk. This is Hannah mark
Hegan again now in jail after her arrest and conviction
for stealing seven million dollars.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
Thank you so much for everything you know. Amy is
for everybody I seen. I've been in this country for
twenty five years.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
Again, she's talking about Amy Bach, the ringleader who was
convicted in her role of perpetuating all the fraud two
hundred and fifty plus million dollars worth in Feeding our Future.
This is who she's lavishing praise upon.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
I run my business for almost eleven years and we've
been pushed around so many times. We're the only immigrants
did not get paid and work for three months and
work our bad off and we are a very strong
immigrants we work so hard and we appreciate one American citizen,

(06:58):
a true American city. I will call her that, you know,
and we will fight. We will fight hard. We will
be there with you for all the time and with God.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
You know.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
Yes, thank you.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, you should do what that guy said.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
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(08:24):
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Speaker 1 (08:27):
Good morning, John Justice, thank you for what you do.
This is Jonathan on Ramsey. I am a sub mariner,
not a submariner, never from belover in my life, a submariner.
And absolutely he was absolutely right on down. Periscope is
the most accurate submarine movie ever. And everybody that I

(08:47):
had served with that we talked wanted to be on
that submarine that took out that shit. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Bet God, let's make it a great day. Thank you
so much. Adam.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
You are the talkback of the day, brought to you
by Minni Leaf and minileaf dot com. All right, before
we get into the feeding our future fraud story. Speaking
of fraud, I like to give myself credit where credit
is due. I did predict at the beginning of or
the end of last year, in the beginning of this
year that one of the biggest stories that would emerge
throughout the year would be that the fraud that we've
experienced wherein we lost billions upon billions of dollars under

(09:18):
the watch of Governor Tim Walls is not isolated to Minnesota,
and this fraud was going to be exposed across the country,
and now we're seeing this actually happening. A CBS News
investigation in Los Angeles County, California, revealed rampant hospice fraud.
As if it couldn't get any more gross in terms,

(09:38):
I mean, all the fraud is gross, but hospice fraud.
And this would be despite California efforts to curb the issue.
The investigation found that over seven hundred hospices exhibiting signs
of fraud, including geographic clustering, low patient counts, and excessive billing.

(09:59):
The state has revoked to licenses so far for two
hundred and eighty hospices.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
But the problem persists.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Some companies operating under the radar are engaging in fraudulent practices.
Three years ago, California state auditors sounded the alarm that
Los Angeles County had seen a fifteen one hundred percent
increase in hospice companies since twenty ten.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
How is it even possible?

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Again, is it a similar situation there that what we
dealt with. You had individuals perhaps at the state level
that see this massive increase, they go and tell their
superiors and it gets ignored because they simply don't want
to deal with it or they consider this, like I
believe the DFL does here in Minnesota, as just merely
a redistribution of wealth through fraud. This is more than

(10:42):
six times the national average relative to its elderly population.
Auditors estimated that La County hospices overbuild medicare by one
hundred and five million in a single year. The report
called out notable red flags multiple hospices and one building
as I mentioned, geographic clustering, high rates of terminally ill

(11:04):
pagents later discharged alive, excessive billing staff shared.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Across multiple companies.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
The state says it proceeded to investigate and revoke the
licenses of those two hundred and eighty hospices, but since
then the problem has continued to fester. CBS News examined
the business and financial records of every hospice currently operating
in La County, applying the same indicators identified by the state.
Indications of fraud have not stopped. In fact, they've grown.

(11:31):
The CBS News analysis reveals that over seven hundred of
the roughly eighteen thousand hospices in La County trigger multiple
red flags for fraud as defined by the state.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
That's just.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
It's crazy to me that we're in twenty twenty six
now and we're only now discovering this one's been going
on for more than likely decades. In the meantime, a
luxury home in Hennipon County, once owned by a defendant
and defeeding our future fraud scheme, now back on the market.
If you've got a cool two point one million, it

(12:09):
offers a glimpse into where some of the millions in
solar taxpayer dollars went. And people have asked several times
as we've talked about this on the show, like are
we going to recoup this money? How are you going
to recoup it? It's gone, The fraudsters don't have it anymore.
I mean, in this case, this Hannah Mark Hegan, convicted fraudster.

(12:32):
You know, she had this home, but now it's gone
to somebody else. She used money that she gained through
fraud with feeding our future, and now it's defaulted back
to a different owner and they're going to put it
up for sale and they'll sell it, and we don't
get a dimeback. Federal prosecutors say the homes owner feeding

(12:54):
Our Future again convicted froster Hannah Markigan obtained more than
seven million from the Federal Nutrition child nutrition program intended
to feed children during the pandemic. Property records show that
Mark Keegan purchased the Medina home in twenty twenty one
for one two hundred and sixty thousand dollars. However, records
show no mortgage associated with the property at the time

(13:15):
of the purchase, suggesting the home may have been bought
with cash during the same period.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
She later testified that she was.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Living very large and the American dream life many Mark
Keegan later forfeited the home as part of her plea agreement.
Property records show the home was sold in twenty twenty
three to the current owners. The property, located on more
than two acres in exclusive Tuckborough Farms community, is described

(13:46):
in real estate listings at the five bedroom, seven bathroom
luxury home featuring high end finishes throughout. I saw the pictures.
It's a beautiful home. She was indeed living the good life,
but as I played in the audio, she was the victim.
This is Hannah mark Egan in the middle of conducting

(14:07):
her fraud, speaking to a group of individuals who are
also conducting fraud, keeping praise upon amy Bach, the ringleader
of the fraud.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
But in this she makes it sound like she's been
the victim.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
All along with how hard she works and how hard
she fights while she was conducting her fraudulent ways.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
Thank you so much for everything, you know, Amy is
for everybody I seen.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
I've been in this.

Speaker 6 (14:38):
Country for twenty five years. I run my business for
almost eleven years, and we've been pushed around so many times.
We're the only immigrants did not get paid and work
for three months and work our butt off, and we
are a very strong immigrant. We work so hard, and

(15:00):
we appreciate one American citizen, a true American citizen. I
will call her that, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
We will fight.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
We will fight hard. We will be there with you
for all the time and with God. You know.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
Yes, it almost sounds like that could have been a
speech that was after the conviction started to roll out.
She was playing the role of the victim at a
time when she's conducting the fraud and then heaping praise
on Amy Bach, as if to say amy Bach was
able to correct the error of the ways of the

(15:40):
individuals that wronged me by giving me this opportunity to
commit all of this fraud. Inside of the home in
which this individual was living eighteen foot ceilings, a statement chandelier,
floor to ceiling, marble and gold doors outside. The property
sits on more than and two acres and included a

(16:01):
heated in ground pool. Those elaborate marble finishes and gold
doors are not mentioned in the properties twenty twenty one listing.
A Twin Cities buyer who previously inquired about the home
told Alpha News that a realtor said the luxury upgrades
were added while Mark Keagan lived there. Oh, wasn't enough
to have this.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Beautiful, lavish home.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
She had to go to add these wild, gaudy amenities.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Apparently with their mental gymnastics.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
This isn't fraud of them, it's just creative means of reparations.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Yeah, that's what it sounded like in that in that
clip from from Hannah. According to Mark Keagan's guilty plea
in federal court, she enrolled her company brav A Cafe
in the federal child Nutrition Nutrition program under the sponsorship
of Feeding Our Future between September of twenty twenty and

(16:55):
followed twenty one. Prosecutors say the company claimed to have
served more than two millions and obtained approximately seven point
one million in federal program funds. By the way, Amy
Bach is an evil individual. There's no doubt about that,
because in so many of these circumstances, what it sounds

(17:16):
like is that here you have this individual who apparently
immigrated to the country legally established their own business in
this Priva cafe, may have been struggling. These businesses are
hard to stay open, sind profit margins, not to mention
the layers of bureaucracy the Democrats have put in to
their anti business beliefs here in Minnesota, and yet here

(17:41):
comes Amy Bach selling this.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Idea.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
Hey, you know what, we had this feeding our future
program and your PRAVA cafe can be one of the
places where you can say that we're giving out these
meals to kids and there's very little oversight in any
of this. You just have to claim that you've said
so many kids in the state, will the pedal federal
government through COVID of relief will pay you for it.

(18:09):
I mean, everybody's to blame in this, but make no mistake,
Amy Bach was feeding on these individuals, and they're being
held accountable rightfully so for agreeing in to these fraudulent actions.
In her application, Marrik Keegan claimed the restaurant would serve
meals to up to four thousand children per day at
its Minneapolis location. However, prosecutors said the claim was obviously false. Instead,

(18:32):
authorities say Mark Keegan submitted fraudulent reimbursement claims supported by
fake paperwork and inflated meal counts.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
You know.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
But remember, I'm sure, going back to a story that
we covered earlier in the show, I'm sure that as
the Minneapolis City Council leadership goes to compile the amount
of money that they believe Operation Metro Surge cost the
City of Minneapolis, it's all on the up and up right,
they would never go and put forward data.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
I mean, listen, it's bogus to begin with. It was
all self inflicted. No entity should.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
Get a dime in terms of money to be recouped
because of Operation Metro surch Any costs that were incurred
is all one hundred percent on the individuals that went
and protested extended the time of Operation Metro Surge kept
them from doing their jobs, fearmongered individuals to not go
to work, the businesses that voluntarily closed down, and the

(19:29):
schools whose parents voluntarily kept their kids from that None
of that had to happen. Mark Keagan getting Back and
Feeding Our Future also paid kickbacks to the Feeding Our
Future in exchange for the nonprofit sponsorship of her company Alten,
who was previously reported that Feeding our Future mastermind Amy
Box trial. Marri Keegan, an East African immigrant, told the
jury that Bach was viewed as a near mythical figure

(19:53):
among those benefiting the scheme, and that was certainly apparent
in that clip that I just shared with you.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Amy Bach was a god.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
Mary Keegan testified she gave us the American dream life.
We were able to own houses, good cars, We were
living very large. Mark Keegan recalled the celebration in twenty
twenty one where a group of East African women saying
in praised Back for her role in securing continued funding
for the program. Gee.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
I wonder if that's actually where I pulled that from
a moment ago. I think it might have been.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
The event was held in response to Bach's legal battle
and the ultimate victory over the Minnesota Department of Education.
Which attempted to cut funding over her suspected fraud.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah, that's what that was.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
Thank you so much for every team you know, Amy
is for everybody I've seen.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
I've been in this.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
Country for twenty five years. I run my business for
almost eleven years.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
And she told me she figured out a way where
I didn't really have to do much work at all anymore.
I just had to lie on a bunch of paperwork, makeups,
some fake documents, and I can live a lavish lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
And now I am.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
Look at my beautiful home and those gold doors in
that in ground pool. Marri kee Can testified that Back
instructed her and others to call MDE and accuse the
Department of racism when it tried to stop payments. The
pressure campaign apparently succeeded, as MDE ultimately back down, allowing
the funds to keep flowing. Mark Keegan admitted under oath

(21:26):
that the racism accusations were indeed false.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Honey, please.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
Money, please, Thank you for hanging out on the show today.
If you missed any portion of today's broadcast, the podcast
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long and studio Representative Max Reimer, RNC Committeeman Ak Kamara.

(21:57):
Get your top backs in early to the iHeartRadio app.
You can also email me as well, Justice at iHeartRadio
dot com. Have a fantastic Thursday. I'll talk to you
guys tomorrow morning.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
They knew, and they'd let it happen.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Walk out, walkout,
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