May 7, 2026 • 47 mins
Craig Kilborn stays for the start of hour two for more Wolves and movie talk before Kevin Seifert joins with an update on the Vikings general manager search.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
I may have asked you this question before, Craig Kilbourne,
but I will ask again in the context of you
mentioning a conversation with Charles Barkley during your illustrious late
night hosting career, can you name me the most difficult
athlete you ever had on the show to get anywhere
(00:39):
with where at the end of it, you're going, my god,
why did we even do this?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
There was certainly Anna Nachole Smith is not an athlete.
She was based out and she didn't answer questions. It
was sad. Yeah, that's unfortunately difficult. Yeah, let's see. So
Vince Carter was kind of young, and he didn't really
talk to anybody in the green room, and he was
kind of kind of low key on the air. I'm
trying to think if there's anybody most of the guys
come to play. I just uh, some of the guys.
(01:10):
This was just a walk on where I gave them
an award. It was a college I think it was
College Player of the Year. I think it was Elton
brand who was going and Rip Hamilton who was had
the wire rooms on. It looked like a little nerd
and was very soft spoken and quiet. Because they they
developed a little more as they you know, as they
age in their twenties and do a lot of interviews.
(01:30):
But I don't nobody jumps out that was really difficult. Yeah,
there were not athletes that were difficulty but but not
I can't think of any athletes that were difficult.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Was was the Anacole Smith? Would that be the Was
that the most nightmarish?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
If we all felt bad for I just said, yeah,
I asked her questions and kind of she kind of
sighed and didn't say much, and I go, come on,
I'm working hard over here. And people were laughing, but
we had, uh, what's that Robbie Knievel the son and
he was hammered and so when he entered, he ran
across and dove on my desk and knocked everything off
(02:09):
and then sat down for the interview. And I don't
remember how the interview was.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Did you know that was going to happen?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Was that the bit?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Because of you know, he.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Was not a bit? Okay, it was not, It was
not It was not a bit. And I think he
chipped my kg bobblehead.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
I can't say I blame you for that.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
By the way, if you had pursued a football career
instead of basketball.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
My assumption is.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
You would have been one of those lanky, rangey wide receivers.
But do you have have you issued any kind of
opinion reaction to the fact that the Vikings are adding
Kyler Murray.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
To the quarterback room.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Presumably we mostly think to be the starter when the
season begins because of maybe now some real concern and
that they needed to hedge their bets on JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Do you have a Kyler Murray take or opinion?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I do. When I first heard it, I was like, no, no, no, no,
I don't want. I don't want Kyler Murray. I like
I do like I look at height. I like taller quarterbacks.
I don't like asses batted down at the line. I
can't stand it. And you know six three six, four
sixty five. I like that for quarterbacks and there are
exceptions with that. And then when I heard that's like
(03:28):
maybe the best option, I said in free agency, I said, well,
we better get him then, And now I'm I'm embracing him.
I always do that where I said, great, let's see
how he does. Now. We know that Sam Darnold struggled
prior to the Vikings, but we all knew he had
a good arm. Kyler has not necessarily struggled, right, He's
put up some good seasons. He's very talented. Honestly, did
(03:53):
my biggest concern and you've probably echoed this sometimes koc
use him the right way. Uh, I keep I'm a
broken record. I always say, the long developing passing routes
driving up the wall, our offensive line can't handle it. Yes,
Kyler can run. So I'm I'm now excited because I
think I mean, I could ask you did you want
(04:14):
Daniel Jones? Who do you want?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Who?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Who did you want instead of Kyler Murray? Who else
was available? Now I am an Aaron Rodgers guy. I
know that's far fetch. Now he's good. I mean he's
I wanted him last year instead of.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
That's where I was.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, yeah, but because he's just the way he releases
the ball and he's so quick with that. But I'll
take Kyler Murray because I don't know who else is
is out there? Who else we could have gotten? And
I do think he is talented.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Well, I'll be shocked if he's not the starter. I mean,
they're they're they're still presenting it ash or you know
everybody's in the mix.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I don't think you make that move.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I'm not saying they promised him the job, but I'll
be shocked if he doesn't start. I guess this possibly
if he you know, he's terrible in training camp in JJ,
is you know, completely reborn. Anything's possible. National Football League.
I want to read you to Anthony Edwards. Edwards quotes
back to back from last night, and tell me which
(05:10):
of these you like better, or maybe both or maybe neither.
This is via your guy Johnny Athletic, who of course
travels with the club and was in San Antonio last night.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Showers with Joe Ingles. Oh sorry, I forgot my mic
was on.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Oh that's a good nugget. Is that from the pot
from your podcast with Johnny?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I'm sorry? Does guards he ever laugh? Is Mike clo
He's very focused right now.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
I've got the mic off. I'm just listening. He's trying to. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I thought it was.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
You were looking for one of those phony sidekick laughs
or that one.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, that one's not bad. Edwards, in reacting to last
night's setback. My mama used to say a hard head
makes a soft ass. Now is that an expression you're
familiar with. I'd never heard that one before.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I think I heard that on Frasier. No, I've never.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Heard that's one of the quotes. Here's the other one
on what he expects from the crowd that you were
referring to earlier at Target Center for Game three tomorrow night.
They gonna be turnt up, They're gonna be falling all
over and bleep, drunk as hell. They're gonna be loud
as hell in there.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
But enough about press.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Row about that.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
That's I mean, that's ant man. You you there's no
there's often no filter there.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
That's I think why a lot of people enjoy him
and gravitated towards him.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Let me ask you, as a former columnist and a
great writer, would you have spelled it b U, R
and T the way Ann said it like Johnny spelled it?
Or would you what would you have done? Well?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Technically? Oh yeah, no, you're right, he did. He spelled
it t U, R and T.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
It's a really good question because it goes back to
once upon a time in journalism there was sort of
an unwritten rule that you clean up the quotes, not
just for obscenity, but for grammar.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Et cetera.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
And that is what about amphibious? Remember Shackleford, are you
you can shoot with both hands? Then amphibious. They should
have cleaned that up.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
But anyway, that's there's the famous remember the famous you
remember Marvin Barnes from the ABA.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
One of the greatest getting time machine.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Time machine quote. It's one of the greatest quotes of
all time too. You're one hundred percent right anyway, I uh,
I think what's about time? You just caught it. You
did the editing. Now I think the kids say, no,
this is what it is. We're gonna leave it out there.
That's who he is. That's what he says. It's authentic,
very authentic. There, there you go. We're gonna go with it.
(07:50):
It's a good question.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
He'd been fun to cover. There's no question about that.
I mean, there's no no doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I mean, KG was fun to cover if you were
willing to wait long enough for him. But the battle
for the Jackals on KG was I mean it would
literally he would be so long that we'd all be
back at our seats in the media room because we're
on deadline. This was when they start doing had legitimate deadlines.
Now the deadlines like noon rather than a midnight. That's
(08:18):
another story for another day. And what the media relations
guy would end up coming back, like Billy Robertson say okay,
Kg's ready now, because it could literally be an extra
thirty to forty five minutes. I don't know if he
went to get a steam sauna, whatever massage, it would
take forever. And then once he spoke, he was actually
(08:39):
pretty good, but it just was very slow.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Hey, quickly, have you ever heard the term schitz schitz? No,
it's Yiddish for a steam. I want to say, yes,
I like that.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It sounds like you get you in trouble. But yeah,
I guess you got to be very careful the way
how you pronounced it.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
That's true. You are you a steam guy in general?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I mean you guys I like I In my old house,
the Dennis Hopperhouse up in the Hills, I had a
steam shower.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
You did have one?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah? Yeah, it was great, And I do like steams.
I feel like I'm sweating and making me sweat and
getting rid of the toxins.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
So how would you stay? What was the average?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
That's the part I don't get, because I think I'd
last about a minute. Yeah, before I'd say no, I'm
this is debilitating me, This is not doing anything for me.
So how long do you have to stay to fully
appreciate whatever you're supposed to appreciate with a good steam?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't think. I don't think it's any longer than
ten minutes. I think the longest I might stay is fifteen.
Other people may be intense and stay longer, but I
like ten to fifteen.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
What's the update on the movie? We got some, we
got more, I mean, we know, Well, why don't we refresh?
Why do you remind people who didn't listen last time
you were on about your new project, your new pet project.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Well, this is a passion a passion project, and I've
been working on it for a number of years because
getting financing is hard. But I writing directing a co
star in an independent film called The Life Golden and
it'll come out and it'll be in some independent theaters
in Minnesota in twenty twenty seven, and it'll be all
hopefully all over the country in different independent theaters. And
(10:15):
it's very stylish. I told you it was a reclusive
aristocrat has his idyllic world rocked by a kidnapping and
then in the process falls in love with someone other
than himself. And I announced it on the Dan Bear
Era Show and you asked me a number of questions
(10:36):
and one of them was hate Craig. Will there be
some people that we know in the film? You know
some of the other actors, some other names, And I
thought that was a good question, and I thought, I said, well,
I got the British actor I really wanted to play this.
He's like the Nick Carraway and the narrator of the
Great Catskies. He's like that. And his name is Tom
(10:57):
Burney played Andrew on The Crown. For those of you
who watched The Crown, this is who I wanted. I
don't think people necessarily will know him. A lot of
people will know him. And we're talking to some actresses.
There's a woman named I think we're going to close
the deal with her. Her name is Lauren Jerman. She
was on Lucifer, which is on Netflix and it plays worldwide,
(11:18):
so she has three million followers on Instagram, so we
might get her. But because of your question, I thought
of something, and this is amazing. On Tuesday, two days ago,
I emailed this guy and I hadn't talked him in
fifteen years And I said, Kevin, Kevin Pollock, I want
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you to do a cameo in my film. I want
you to do this. I have my character goes on
a bender. He's at kind of rock bottom, and you're
gonna be the bartender. And I'm not gonna we're shooting
out of state, but maybe we're gonna shoot this one,
maybe closer to home for you. And I had lunch
with him yesterday really, and he's and he's gonna the
(12:00):
script because he said he texted me. He says, I
you had me yet I'd be honored if you would
play this part. And he is one of the nicest
guys and talented guys. And uh, I mean we all
saw him in a few Good Men, Yes, and and
he does all those impressions and he was doing some
of them yesterday over lunch. But he might do it
(12:22):
because your your question said, well, now I can say
Kevin Pollack said it, and woh cool.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
So if you if if you're in a cameo role
in this kind of movie, do you just assume or
do they assume that it's a freebie or is there
no such thing even?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
In a cameo role. How does that work? What's the
protocol on that sort of thing? When it's a cameo, you.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Still have to pay? Do they still expect to get paid.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'll let you know in a week. No, because I
don't know. Well, it's a he knows, it's a passion project.
And we'll see. And they're different, they're different things. Uh,
they're different things that we could potentially do. But he
also has a script that he's trying to get made,
and he has some financing and he wants me to
read it. He sent it to me yesterday. But maybe
(13:08):
I can. You can do each other a favor. Yeah,
there you go. You do it that way.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, that's that would be even better for your I
bet you that would help your budget. Yes, put it not,
that's what you're looking for. You gotta worry about those
kinds of thing. You got to keep it inside the budget.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Right, Oh, big time. It's it's not easy.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Now.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Last question for today.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
See if the Wolves do knock off the favorite Spurs,
does that mean Kilbourne returns to Twin Cities for another
Western Conference Finals appearance?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
A good question. I'm pretty sure it's not going to happen.
I apologize because this is really taxing. I'm doing a
lot of I'm doing a lot of stuff. I'm producing
and doing I'm wearing a lot of hats. But I
do say, if if there's a finals appearance, you have
to I would have I think I would have to
move things around and say, Kevin, I'm sorry, take the
(14:02):
day off. I'm busy.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Maybe you blow in with KG.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Maybe you and KG hang because you know he's back
reunited with the club. That whole process is finally begun.
How about that? Are you and KG?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I was so impressed. I didn't I had not seen
his daughters, and they seem so mature, so likable, and
one's going to play volleyball at Michigan. Good for them.
That was great.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
That was a nice scene, A very good scene.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Glad you're well. Always good to hear your voice, my friend.
Thank you, and we will be in touch.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Always a pleasure. Craig Kilbourne kind enough to join us.
Don't forget Kevin Seffert. In about fifteen minutes doctor Dan's
inbox email guardsye jg at.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
K f A and DOC.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
American officials said yesterday that residents in three states were
being monitored for potential Haunt of virus infections after being
aboard a Dutch cruise ship where there was a deadly
outbreak of the virus. None of the people being monitored
have shown signs of illness. Official say since April eleven,
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three passengers who were aboard the Envy Hondius have died
and five others have been sickened after showing symptoms of
the haunt of virus, a rare family of viruses. According
to the WHA, this is a New York Times Overview roundup.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Story and with that I need to go.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I do appreciate your call that.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I this is kind of scary stuff right off Cape Verde.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
On Wednesday three, yesterday, three patients were evacuated from the
cruise ship, which is.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Now heading to the Canary Islands.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Two patients have landed in the Netherlands, where they are
receiving medical treatment as well. According to a statement from
ocean Wide Expeditions that's the Dutch company operating this Night
and Marrish cruise. A third patient evacuated on a separate
flight via ship originally had one hundred and fifty passengers.
It'll dock in the Canary Islands and undergo an evacuation process.
(16:36):
I assume there's a very specific process as this is
these things go. I'm not sure I ever heard of
hantavirus until this story. I know it's described as a
rare but potentially deadly family of viruses spread primarily by
wild rodents such as deer mice, causing severe respiratory or
(17:00):
renal illnesses in humans. Humans become infected get this by
inhaling airborne particles from dried rodent saliva, urine, or droppings.
That's not good, often while cleaning enclosed, dusty areas. Early
(17:20):
symptoms flu like isn't everything fever, muscle aches, fatigue, but
can rapidly progress to severe, often fatal breathing issues. See
I wish I didn't know this. Now I know you
become infected by inhaling airborne particles from dried rodent saliva, urine,
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or droppings, So presumably rodent infestation on the boat.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I guess that part of it. Yes, that has to
be the leap.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Did you know you could get anything from dried rodent saliva?
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I didn't, I'll say I guess I always always assumed
that it wasn't good, that you didn't want to be
around it or inhale it if you didn't have to.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
But I didn't know it could be this bad. It
might be a big knocker.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Time Again, there's actually a couple stories worthy of his time,
I think if he is prepared to talk about them.
There's these the this new report about this new what's
considered one of the most lethal forms of.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Cant the pancreatic cancer.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Right, and we've got the as I understand, it's some
major breakthroughs taking place regarding the ENVIN treatments that might
revolutionize because that usually is has been I think historically
considered a death sentence, especially.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Because you don't even know you have. It's one of
those kids.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Till so late exactly right. So, yeah, that's not a
bad idea. Actually, that's not a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Seven six three guy is claiming, I have to look
this up that Gene Hackman's wife died of hantavirus. Also
had not heard of it before, but any case, I yeah,
I not. I'll double check that. That was a strange story, right,
the Hacklans It was very strange, mysterious story. But I
(19:09):
had not heard the hantavirus. But a number of people are.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
That same thing it's shut down Yosemity a few years
ago it did, so it's it's new. It's one we
hadn't heard of a ton, but it's been in the
news a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Crazy cruise ships. Man, Can you get a shot for that?
I'd take a vaccine. Is there a hantavirus vaccine? There
probably will be?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
How rare?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I think it's pretty rare. I think so just on
what I've read the last couple of days. It's a
it's a And I'm trying to figure out why it's
rare because there's rodents everywhere. There's rodents, saliva drive rodent saliva,
one would assume everywhere. But it sounds like maybe you
got to be in enclosed spaces with the stuff, which
most people I guess hopefully or not.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
But then here's the tricky part. You know it's there, Yeah,
you have to clean it up. How do you go
in there without being exposed to it? That's where if
it's there, we got to clean this up. But if
we go in there and we don't take precautions, we're
going to get exposed to it. They can't just you
can't just leave it. No, that's true. That's a thankless task.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
It is.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It would be a clean up crew there. Well, one
would assume you go, you would have the proper equipment,
but would.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
You I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Maybe some of these cruise ships aren't so good about
that because that's that probably costs money, it does. I
know there's billions of cruises that take place every year
where nothing bad happened.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I know, and we never hear about this.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
It's tough, though, But when you hear that, you know,
even one of these stories a year, I go, I know,
it's too too enclosed, man, and it's just too no,
it's gon it'ld be my luck, It'll be I'll be
Larry David and I'll end up, you know, at sea
for like five years.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
That's it, because they don't let you come back because
the easiest thing is, well, we're just going to leave
them out there. We don't want other people to be exposed,
so we're just going to leave this ship.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
But do we know whether I thought historically the medical
experts said you can't.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
It doesn't get transmitted person to person.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
But then I thought I read something else saying, but
it's theoretically still possible.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So my point is, if it's not that transmissible from
one to the other, why do we have to quarantine
an entire ship. You're right, I don't know. Somebody will
tell us and maybe we get the knocker on soon
as well. Bottom of the hour. Pause, Now let's come back.
Didn't intend to talk more pro football today. We just
had Alec Lewis yesterday, but we've had some names. Finally
figured we might as well follow this because it's been
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so sort of, you know, esoteric to talk about what
kind of general manager the Vikings want, who they might
be looking at, who fits in, all that kind of stuff.
But until you have names, it doesn't seem very very concrete. Well,
according to Seaffert's Guy, a schefter at ESPN, we now
do have some names that are in the mix. Above
and beyond Rob Razinski. Kevin Seffert will help us go
(21:52):
through those names, what they mean, and perhaps a couple
of other items as well.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Don't go away.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Thank you for everybody for coming here.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Hardhead makes a soft ass means stubbornness and inability to
listen results in consequences a lah a whooping From back
in the day, the Anthony Edwards quote. We're playing off
of what he said after the game too. I think, well,
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I get the attention of his teammates. Perhaps correct was
hope something does, and we'd like to think that it would.
Kevin Sefferd is kind of enough to join us via
the Connectico Water Systems hotline. Welcome back to the program.
Thank you for some bonus time today. How quickly what
kind of timetable you got sources everywhere? What's the Wilf's
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timetable to sell the team?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I thought you were gonna ask me the time on
the general manager. I was already to roll on that
one to sell the team. I do not think that
there is any timetable at this time, nor any intent
to sell the team.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
To be clear, wait a minute, now, your equivalent that
you're being very very careful with those words. That's you
said trying time, and you know it just sounded more
like you were couching it. I thought it would be
a swift and complete dismissal of a non story.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
It was a non story, it is a non story.
It will continue to be a non story until it's not,
I suppose. But that's not intended to be anything other
than telling people that the team is not for sale
and they're not considering putting it up for sale. They did.
In fact, there has been a big drop in cash
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spend this year, but there are reasons for that that
do not include a sale.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Your guy Schefter and your guy Pelsero have come up
with a list that you have written about and retweeted
as well of external general manager candidates that the Vikings
apparently have already requested interviews on. Before we get to
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the specific names, because it's nice to have some names. Finally,
beyond Rob Erzinski, is there something they all have in
common that is perhaps a clue about, philosophically speaking, the
direction the Wilfs might be interested in going this time around.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty clear, and I
did a video that'll show up on ESPN dot com
at some point today, hopefully soon. Basically, the big takeaway
from this list and we think this is the full
first round list of interviews that will probably be done
virtually until they start narrowing things down. The a little
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bit that there is not a desire at this time
from the Wilfs to hire someone with enough experience and
or juice to come in and overall, the entire football
operations and change the way they operate, change the way
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they think, changed the way they do their fundamental day
to day business. These are all assistant general managers who
came up through the scouting ranks, which kind of confirms
many of our suspicions that the Vikings was sort of
the pendulum would swing back the other way towards the
hardcore football guys. And it sort of brought mind what
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Mark Wilf said in March at the owner's meetings when
a handful of us were talking to him and someone asked,
I think it was Alec Lewis, asked, what, you know,
what they were looking for in a candidate, and Mark
Wilf said a few things, but what he among that
was that he wanted people to know that they thought
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they had a very good scouting department and they have
a very good coaching staff, and that the person that
they hire would be someone that needs to fit in
with that. And so when you when you take that
sort of you know, intangible answer, and pair it with
the list of candidates that they have compiled, I think
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we can make the you know, the the conclusion here
that unless they change their direction during the process, they're
looking for someone who can fit in, uh and and
lead this group, but not come in and be the
alpha leader of the entire football organization or the entire building,
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or be someone who's going to be a massive change agent.
It doesn't appear that that's what they're looking for.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
So are we back to the once upon a time
much ridiculed triangle triangle of authority back at US?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I don't think we can aclue that yet, because that
would assume that they would be doing it differently than
they did when Quaysy a Dolpha Mensa was here. I mean,
it was basically Quaysy was the general manager, Kevin O'Connell
was the head coach, and so you had, you know,
it wasn't a triangle. I think Rob Prazinski was very
well thought of as the contract negotiator and the salary
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cap manager, but he was taking direction from the general manager.
And so I don't know that that we think that
that's going to change. Uh. You know, Rob's a candidate
for that general manager job, but if he does not
get it, I don't know that that means we should
assume that he would still raise in profile from where
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he was prior to Quaycy's firing, and that there would
now be three different people, meaning the general manager, the
Robert Sinski role, and the head coach who would all
be running it together. I don't know that. I mean
that could happen, but I don't know that we know
that for sure.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
So who breaks the ties?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
You know?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
If again, it'll this will be interesting because first I
guess we don't know that we're going to a situation
where there's three. But even if there's the two, if
there's the general manager and the head coach, it was
clear that Kacy Dopamensa had control of the roster and
had control over you know, draft you know, final draft decisions,
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free agent decisions, all.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
That sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
It doesn't there's no rule that says it has to
be that way. I mean a lot of coaches have
power over the fifty three man roster. A lot of
coaches have setups. And I've written about this that whether
it's formalized and contracts or just understood that while the
coach isn't necessarily the general manager isn't like doesn't have
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scouts reporting to him and all that sort of thing,
there's situations where I mean, there's no situations where the
coach gets overruled or where if there's something that the
coach is asserting himself on and wants, then that those organizations,
that's what the coach gets. And that's kind of what
they have in a Kansas City type of situation where
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Andy Reid is the coach. He's not the general manager,
but he also has a stature there for obvious and
good reasons that you know, there's not much that happens
there that doesn't at least have his stamp of approval on.
And so if when you're asking me if the next
general manager is going to continue to have control over
the fifty three man roster and continue to have final
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say over draft and everything else, I can't say that
for sure either. I think that's part of what this
process is. Kepvitn O'Connell's been with the organization for a
long time. It's been well documented that the coaches have
had an increasingly bigger role in personnel in terms of
draft and free agency. And if are they going to
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hire a general manager and then have that coaches expanded
coaches role be inflated, you know, or whatever the opposite
of expansion is I don't know. I don't know if
you can do that from a practical sense or not.
But it's a very interesting question, and it's one that
we're monitoring, and we'll ask when the hire is made.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Names are La Chargers assistant GM, Chad Alexander, Niners assistant
GM R J. Gillen, Buffalo Bill's assistant GM, Terrence Gray,
Rams assistant GM, A name familiar football named John McKay,
Seattle assistant GM Nolan Teasley, and Tennessee assistant GM Dave Ziggler. Now,
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I guess I'm maybe too much of a purist in
this regard or a traditionalist, but and look, these are
not very many jobs like these are available. So maybe
it doesn't matter to any of those candidates if they
if one of them ends up being the front runner
and even offered the job. But is it possible that
one or more of them would say, well, wait a minute, now,
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am I in charge? Am I in charge of the
football operation? Or am I not in charge of football operation?
Is that the trend so much that the way the
Vikings might want to set this up, not having somebody
who's like lords over everybody is not going to be
offensive to some of these folks, or do you think
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it could be a detriment in some cases in terms
of the interest in this position.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I mean, in theory, it could be a detriment. It
also could be a part of how they sort of
cultivated and called this list. You know, these are people
that would be fine with that, and whether whether that's
assumptions made and you still have to ask the questions,
or whether the turnkey the consultants that they've hired to
help call this list was are already aware that these
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are the profile of general managers that would be fine
with that and would be fine with a job where
they're part of the process, but they're not the you know,
the all knowing alpha of the process, I guess, And
so we'll see. But I there there could be I'm
sure there are people out there who would be willing
to take a general manager job here where they're in charge,
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but not necessarily would they be willing to take if
they were just part of the process. So I think
so whether that's a detriment or not, I think that's
what If that's what the ownership wants, then you might
as well do your best to find the people that
would fit to that and not. You know, but you
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could also argue and this is just the devil's advocate
or not, But like you could also argue that this
is your chance just to hear from people of all
the different types and styles, and you know, what would
you do if you were the GM, Like, what do
you think we need to do? Even if you don't
necessarily have reason to You don't think you're going to
hire them. They might give you some good ideas, and
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you might and you and you're always going to be
It's always interesting to know what people who are observing
your organization from the outside I think of you and
the way you operate, and what they would do differently.
And you see some you see some teams do that
with coaching searches where they're interviewing people that they may
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or may not hire, but maybe you can get some
good ideas from them, or maybe you'll file away their
answers for a few years from now, and that's all.
That's part of the opportunity you get when you have
an opening here is that you can hear from anybody
and get and who knows what that information could could
get you two.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
So part of what fascinates me about this again, is
the philosophy that is behind it? I mean, I guess
I'm still you know, if I'm interviewing for this position,
I think it's going to be a fair question to say,
all right, I'm coming in. The coach is established, we
get that, right. Maybe Brazinski stays in the same role
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he's in. I you know, I don't know, But don't
you have to find out that. All right, let's eighty
two years down the road, I conclude that this isn't
the right coach here any longer for whatever reason, whether
it's the quarterback situation, because that that person's going to inherit.
Once again, what the what has already been set up
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here at the position? So isn't it logical to want
to know, well, eventually, who gets to decide on important
decisions like that?
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Is that my job or is it not my job?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Because I still thought I had the impression that in
most franchises it was set up that way.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Am I living in the dark ages here?
Speaker 1 (34:38):
And in fact it's much more everywhere about ownership and
the president, whoever, whether it's the president of football operations
or just a general manager, does not really have that
power to say Okay, we've gone as far as we
can with this coach.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
We believe a change needs to be made now.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
They sometimes do, but you certainly can't affect it without
the full support of the owner. And you know, there's
there's there's no longer like the you know, like I'm
trying to think who was who was Mike Ditka's general
manager in Chicago? Yeah, and so like, I don't know
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if there's like the finx type of general manager that
exists in too many places where the coach reports to
that person and you know, that's their boss, and if
they think that they're not doing that well enough and
need to be fired, they go to the owner and
say we need to fire this guy, and it's fired.
So I would you know, I frankly like it'll be again,
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it'll be interesting, But I would be surprised if the
Vikings end up in a situation where the head coaches
working for the general manager. Period. I sort of expect both,
you know it, again, especially based on this list, I
wouldn't be surprised if if Kevin O'Connell ends up reporting
to the owner ship as well as the general manager
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reporting to ownership. But again, it will depend on who
on who that person is that's ultimately hired and how
that how that works, and so yeah, it's here that
the Viking Vikings are heading in a direction where it'll
be a general manager's centric organization at least again based
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on first looks at this at this group.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Jonathan from Bloomington with a question, can seaford to elaborate
on what is good about our scouting department? What makes
the Wolves Wilfs believe we have a good scouting department
as is.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Now? There's there That's a good question, and it's one
the Wilf's would be better better equipped to answer than me.
But I think, you know, there there's a lot of
talented people there, and there's been a lot of uh,
I mean, they've It's not like they haven't brought in
talented players over the course of the past two decades,
of the past decade and a half, either three through
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the draft or through free agency or both. Like say
what you want about you know, the the the you know,
maybe the drafts in the case of Quasi, or or
maybe some free agent classes in previous tenures. But uh,
you know, they're they've they've always been a relatively talented
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NFL team and and the regular season records during the
Wolf tenure I think reflect that. And then you can say, well,
they weren't talent enough to make deep runs into the playoffs,
and that's that's fair. But they also like there's never
been there haven't been many years where where you look
around the roster and you're like, there's just not many
difference makers here, Like they they've they've produced relatively talented
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rosters compared to you know, the the league average, I
guess is the best way to put in So I,
if I had to guess, I would say that would
be the way the Wolfs would describe it. They haven't
experienced operations, so it's there not It's not too often
that you see them blundering in ways that suggests they
they just you know, made really bad mistakes, and so
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that's something that's comforting as well. But I don't know
what the Wolves have to compare it to, or what
information they have about the way other teams operate either
that would make them feel like they, you know, that
satisfied with that structure.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Why are we using a search firm?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I think, you know, I personally think some of that
is uh gets overblown. I think the search firm just
is used to call the many many candidates into a
workable list and so and then beyond and if they're
doing their jobs well, they're being responsive to what the
ownership and the other people who are involved in the
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search are telling them they're looking for. But there's no
there's no role that's as devices have to hire any
of the people that they produce or anything along those signs.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Seth wants to know out of Brooklyn Park whether Brazinski
sits in on the interviews. I assume the answer to
that has to be no. Given he's one of the candidates.
How does that factor in?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yeah, I wouldn't. I can't see it's a scenario where
he's one of the candidates and he's part of the
process too, and so I would not think that he
would be sitting in on.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Those It's interesting too, because don't we have we have
a fancy name for it's some sort of internal committee
that apparently is going to be part of where there
are going to be people from the organization who are
in on this process. Of the assumption, maybe it's even
already been established, is that Koc is going to be
in that mix too. That also interests me. Obviously, you
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want a guy who can work with your head coach, right,
and you want a guy the head coach is comfortable
working with as well.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
But it just feels so vague to me.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
And you've gotten a wils fairly well, I mean, do
you think ultimately they trust themselves enough to say, all right,
this is the direction we want to go, or it's
going to be as simple as KOC recommends so and so,
so therefore that's the direction we're going to go. Because
again I can't help but wonder its like, well, maybe
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KOC is recommending a specific person because he feels like
it's going to be easiest for him to hold on
to his power and maybe even add to his power
on the basis of what he knows about the specific candidate,
which might not necessarily be the best candidate in the position.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Well, I mean, there could that. I mean, that's certainly
something concerned about. You would also hope that if you know,
if his ultimate goal is to win the Super Bowl,
like he would be, you know, in search of somebody
that can best do that, or in his mind, is
best equipped to do that. So I think, like that
that's definitely part of it. The the I think that
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the Wilfs rarely act unilaterally like that. It may have.
I think that happened with the Gentleman the firing of
claci A Delpha Mensa. They acted surprisingly and unilaterally, and
I don't think there was much consultation with anybody in
the building on that. There was a wide amount of
shock when it actually happened, But generally speaking, I don't
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and normally I would think fans would like the fact
that owners aren't just acting out acting and hiring people
and firing people on their own. I think they they
have tended to take the advice or listen to the
feedback that they get during these processes. And you could
maybe argue it's too much, or you could argue after
twenty eight years owning the team, they should know more
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about the people in the league and the good candidates
and the bad candidates, and the people that they should
be listening to and the people they should not be
listening to. But ultimately I think that they they don't
operate the team that way. I think they generally try
to avoid unilateral action, and I think that they do
take a lot of advice from the people that are
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working for them that they've hired. They view it as like,
that's what we I hired you to do is to
is to be experts in these particular fields, and I
want you to provide me with the names and the
advice that will best lead us to where we want
to go. And if you're not able to do that,
after a couple of years, we'll we'll find somebody else
to do that. But I so I think that I
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expect them to lean heavily on what Kevin O'Connell thinks,
but also Andrew Miller thinks, who is the chief operating officer,
And those are two different viewpoints. They have two different
jobs in the organization. They both have a lot of
people that report to them. But they're but and they're
but they're probably the two most powerful people in the
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building right now. And sometimes it's good when you have
people at opposite ends of the rope pulling in different
directions to get you, uh to the exact place to
that's best for the entire building. And we'll see if
that becomes the case. But yeah, I expect the Wilfs
to ultimately take the counsel of the people in the
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building and the people who are part of this process
seriously and ultimately it could help them over the finish
line to their found decision.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Can you envision a scenario in which Brazinski doesn't get
the call the Vikings go with somebody else, but that
he stays with the organization in the same role he's
been in as kind of a company guy right forever.
Or do you think that gets potentially a little bit
more difficult and complicated in this particular circumstance.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
I think it could depend on which of these people
get hired if it's not him, because I think you're right,
he is a company man, and he does he is
being truthful when he said when he said in February
and again in March that all he really wants to
do is play a role in in the Vikings winning
the Super Bowl, And if the Vikings hire somebody that
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that he believes can can do that from that general
manager role, then I think he'll he would be amenable
for sure to staying in that in the previous role,
and part of that will be to make sure that
that that the connection between the two of them are
is is what it needs to be. But there's definitely
they definitely run the risk that if they hire somebody
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that you know, either is isn't comfortable with him staying
in that job or vice versa, that that could be
you know, it could lead to Rob not being here.
But like, I don't have any specific people to say,
if they hire this guy, then he will stay, If
they hire that guy, then he won't.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
I don't have that.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
I just know that, like the whole range of possibilities
is in play.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Today is May seven, So by what May thirtieth, even earlier,
we will have vikings, will have somebody hired.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
How long do you think this is?
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Why why you're trying to throw a picnic for him
or something?
Speaker 4 (45:17):
I like the plan?
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Yeah, I you know, I was told that the thing
would take weeks, and so I think this is the
first week where it's really rolling, you know, like they've
got names, and they're setting up virtual interviews, doing virtual
interviews at some point and then I imagine they'll go
for a second round and so, you know, it's it
seems to me that that's a good you know, Memorial
(45:39):
Day ish is a good time to think that the
process could done. If it doesn't, you know, assuming they
get to there's somebody at the end of this group
that they want to hire. You know. The only the
reason it would take longer than that, I think is
if they get to it and they don't like anybody.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah, which is not.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Again, you know, I don't have any reason to think
that's the case. But I'm trying to think how it
could be that they go past a month doing this
and so we'll see. But that I think that's reasonable.
But I don't think they are holding themselves to that.
I don't think they have any real there's certainly not
a competitive rush to do it. And if there's advantages
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to doing it by March twentieth versus I mean May
twentieth versus May twenty seventh or June second, I don't
think that. I think it's a very marginal advantage and
not one that they will rush it to meet.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
The sad reality is that there's a good chance, the
way it works here and has this spring, is that
we will still not have picnic.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
Weather by May thorath. Well, see, it'll probably be like
forty two degrees and a driving rain.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Well you'll have to get a tent and just have
some portable heaters, and we'll figure it out.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
I hope to see you soon. Thanks as always for
the time. Okay, Dan, Kevin seaffert E sp N with
some names.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
I'm not sure how much you know the names mean
to anybody, but they're out there. They're all a bunch
of they're all assistant general managers, and they're certainly familiar
within the football community, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Let's make this the top of the hour.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
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Speaker 5 (47:22):
The Wolves getting punked, what we know about the wild
goaltender situation for Game three, and March Madness officially getting
a little madder.
I may have asked you this question before, Craig Kilbourne,
but I will ask again in the context of you
mentioning a conversation with Charles Barkley during your illustrious late
night hosting career, can you name me the most difficult
athlete you ever had on the show to get anywhere
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with where at the end of it, you're going, my god,
why did we even do this?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
There was certainly Anna Nachole Smith is not an athlete.
She was based out and she didn't answer questions. It
was sad. Yeah, that's unfortunately difficult. Yeah, let's see. So
Vince Carter was kind of young, and he didn't really
talk to anybody in the green room, and he was
kind of kind of low key on the air. I'm
trying to think if there's anybody most of the guys
come to play. I just uh, some of the guys.
(01:10):
This was just a walk on where I gave them
an award. It was a college I think it was
College Player of the Year. I think it was Elton
brand who was going and Rip Hamilton who was had
the wire rooms on. It looked like a little nerd
and was very soft spoken and quiet. Because they they
developed a little more as they you know, as they
age in their twenties and do a lot of interviews.
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But I don't nobody jumps out that was really difficult. Yeah,
there were not athletes that were difficulty but but not
I can't think of any athletes that were difficult.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Was was the Anacole Smith? Would that be the Was
that the most nightmarish?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
If we all felt bad for I just said, yeah,
I asked her questions and kind of she kind of
sighed and didn't say much, and I go, come on,
I'm working hard over here. And people were laughing, but
we had, uh, what's that Robbie Knievel the son and
he was hammered and so when he entered, he ran
across and dove on my desk and knocked everything off
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and then sat down for the interview. And I don't
remember how the interview was.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Did you know that was going to happen?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Was that the bit?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Because of you know, he.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Was not a bit? Okay, it was not, It was
not It was not a bit. And I think he
chipped my kg bobblehead.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
I can't say I blame you for that.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
By the way, if you had pursued a football career
instead of basketball.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
My assumption is.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
You would have been one of those lanky, rangey wide receivers.
But do you have have you issued any kind of
opinion reaction to the fact that the Vikings are adding
Kyler Murray.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
To the quarterback room.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Presumably we mostly think to be the starter when the
season begins because of maybe now some real concern and
that they needed to hedge their bets on JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Do you have a Kyler Murray take or opinion?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I do. When I first heard it, I was like, no, no, no, no,
I don't want. I don't want Kyler Murray. I like
I do like I look at height. I like taller quarterbacks.
I don't like asses batted down at the line. I
can't stand it. And you know six three six, four
sixty five. I like that for quarterbacks and there are
exceptions with that. And then when I heard that's like
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maybe the best option, I said in free agency, I said, well,
we better get him then, And now I'm I'm embracing him.
I always do that where I said, great, let's see
how he does. Now. We know that Sam Darnold struggled
prior to the Vikings, but we all knew he had
a good arm. Kyler has not necessarily struggled, right, He's
put up some good seasons. He's very talented. Honestly, did
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my biggest concern and you've probably echoed this sometimes koc
use him the right way. Uh, I keep I'm a
broken record. I always say, the long developing passing routes
driving up the wall, our offensive line can't handle it. Yes,
Kyler can run. So I'm I'm now excited because I
think I mean, I could ask you did you want
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Daniel Jones? Who do you want?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Who?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Who did you want instead of Kyler Murray? Who else
was available? Now I am an Aaron Rodgers guy. I
know that's far fetch. Now he's good. I mean he's
I wanted him last year instead of.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
That's where I was.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, yeah, but because he's just the way he releases
the ball and he's so quick with that. But I'll
take Kyler Murray because I don't know who else is
is out there? Who else we could have gotten? And
I do think he is talented.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Well, I'll be shocked if he's not the starter. I mean,
they're they're they're still presenting it ash or you know
everybody's in the mix.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I don't think you make that move.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I'm not saying they promised him the job, but I'll
be shocked if he doesn't start. I guess this possibly
if he you know, he's terrible in training camp in JJ,
is you know, completely reborn. Anything's possible. National Football League.
I want to read you to Anthony Edwards. Edwards quotes
back to back from last night, and tell me which
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of these you like better, or maybe both or maybe neither.
This is via your guy Johnny Athletic, who of course
travels with the club and was in San Antonio last night.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Showers with Joe Ingles. Oh sorry, I forgot my mic
was on.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Oh that's a good nugget. Is that from the pot
from your podcast with Johnny?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I'm sorry? Does guards he ever laugh? Is Mike clo
He's very focused right now.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
I've got the mic off. I'm just listening. He's trying to. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I thought it was.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
You were looking for one of those phony sidekick laughs
or that one.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, that one's not bad. Edwards, in reacting to last
night's setback. My mama used to say a hard head
makes a soft ass. Now is that an expression you're
familiar with. I'd never heard that one before.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I think I heard that on Frasier. No, I've never.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Heard that's one of the quotes. Here's the other one
on what he expects from the crowd that you were
referring to earlier at Target Center for Game three tomorrow night.
They gonna be turnt up, They're gonna be falling all
over and bleep, drunk as hell. They're gonna be loud
as hell in there.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
But enough about press.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Row about that.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
That's I mean, that's ant man. You you there's no
there's often no filter there.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
That's I think why a lot of people enjoy him
and gravitated towards him.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Let me ask you, as a former columnist and a
great writer, would you have spelled it b U, R
and T the way Ann said it like Johnny spelled it?
Or would you what would you have done? Well?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Technically? Oh yeah, no, you're right, he did. He spelled
it t U, R and T.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
It's a really good question because it goes back to
once upon a time in journalism there was sort of
an unwritten rule that you clean up the quotes, not
just for obscenity, but for grammar.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Et cetera.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
And that is what about amphibious? Remember Shackleford, are you
you can shoot with both hands? Then amphibious. They should
have cleaned that up.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
But anyway, that's there's the famous remember the famous you
remember Marvin Barnes from the ABA.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
One of the greatest getting time machine.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Time machine quote. It's one of the greatest quotes of
all time too. You're one hundred percent right anyway, I uh,
I think what's about time? You just caught it. You
did the editing. Now I think the kids say, no,
this is what it is. We're gonna leave it out there.
That's who he is. That's what he says. It's authentic,
very authentic. There, there you go. We're gonna go with it.
(07:50):
It's a good question.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
He'd been fun to cover. There's no question about that.
I mean, there's no no doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I mean, KG was fun to cover if you were
willing to wait long enough for him. But the battle
for the Jackals on KG was I mean it would
literally he would be so long that we'd all be
back at our seats in the media room because we're
on deadline. This was when they start doing had legitimate deadlines.
Now the deadlines like noon rather than a midnight. That's
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another story for another day. And what the media relations
guy would end up coming back, like Billy Robertson say okay,
Kg's ready now, because it could literally be an extra
thirty to forty five minutes. I don't know if he
went to get a steam sauna, whatever massage, it would
take forever. And then once he spoke, he was actually
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pretty good, but it just was very slow.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Hey, quickly, have you ever heard the term schitz schitz? No,
it's Yiddish for a steam. I want to say, yes,
I like that.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It sounds like you get you in trouble. But yeah,
I guess you got to be very careful the way
how you pronounced it.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
That's true. You are you a steam guy in general?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I mean you guys I like I In my old house,
the Dennis Hopperhouse up in the Hills, I had a
steam shower.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
You did have one?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah? Yeah, it was great, And I do like steams.
I feel like I'm sweating and making me sweat and
getting rid of the toxins.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
So how would you stay? What was the average?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
That's the part I don't get, because I think I'd
last about a minute. Yeah, before I'd say no, I'm
this is debilitating me, This is not doing anything for me.
So how long do you have to stay to fully
appreciate whatever you're supposed to appreciate with a good steam?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't think. I don't think it's any longer than
ten minutes. I think the longest I might stay is fifteen.
Other people may be intense and stay longer, but I
like ten to fifteen.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
What's the update on the movie? We got some, we
got more, I mean, we know, Well, why don't we refresh?
Why do you remind people who didn't listen last time
you were on about your new project, your new pet project.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Well, this is a passion a passion project, and I've
been working on it for a number of years because
getting financing is hard. But I writing directing a co
star in an independent film called The Life Golden and
it'll come out and it'll be in some independent theaters
in Minnesota in twenty twenty seven, and it'll be all
hopefully all over the country in different independent theaters. And
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it's very stylish. I told you it was a reclusive
aristocrat has his idyllic world rocked by a kidnapping and
then in the process falls in love with someone other
than himself. And I announced it on the Dan Bear
Era Show and you asked me a number of questions
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and one of them was hate Craig. Will there be
some people that we know in the film? You know
some of the other actors, some other names, And I
thought that was a good question, and I thought, I said, well,
I got the British actor I really wanted to play this.
He's like the Nick Carraway and the narrator of the
Great Catskies. He's like that. And his name is Tom
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Burney played Andrew on The Crown. For those of you
who watched The Crown, this is who I wanted. I
don't think people necessarily will know him. A lot of
people will know him. And we're talking to some actresses.
There's a woman named I think we're going to close
the deal with her. Her name is Lauren Jerman. She
was on Lucifer, which is on Netflix and it plays worldwide,
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so she has three million followers on Instagram, so we
might get her. But because of your question, I thought
of something, and this is amazing. On Tuesday, two days ago,
I emailed this guy and I hadn't talked him in
fifteen years And I said, Kevin, Kevin Pollock, I want
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you to do a cameo in my film. I want
you to do this. I have my character goes on
a bender. He's at kind of rock bottom, and you're
gonna be the bartender. And I'm not gonna we're shooting
out of state, but maybe we're gonna shoot this one,
maybe closer to home for you. And I had lunch
with him yesterday really, and he's and he's gonna the
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script because he said he texted me. He says, I
you had me yet I'd be honored if you would
play this part. And he is one of the nicest
guys and talented guys. And uh, I mean we all
saw him in a few Good Men, Yes, and and
he does all those impressions and he was doing some
of them yesterday over lunch. But he might do it
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because your your question said, well, now I can say
Kevin Pollack said it, and woh cool.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
So if you if if you're in a cameo role
in this kind of movie, do you just assume or
do they assume that it's a freebie or is there
no such thing even?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
In a cameo role. How does that work? What's the
protocol on that sort of thing? When it's a cameo, you.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Still have to pay? Do they still expect to get paid.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'll let you know in a week. No, because I
don't know. Well, it's a he knows, it's a passion project.
And we'll see. And they're different, they're different things. Uh,
they're different things that we could potentially do. But he
also has a script that he's trying to get made,
and he has some financing and he wants me to
read it. He sent it to me yesterday. But maybe
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I can. You can do each other a favor. Yeah,
there you go. You do it that way.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, that's that would be even better for your I
bet you that would help your budget. Yes, put it not,
that's what you're looking for. You gotta worry about those
kinds of thing. You got to keep it inside the budget.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Right, Oh, big time. It's it's not easy.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Now.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Last question for today.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
See if the Wolves do knock off the favorite Spurs,
does that mean Kilbourne returns to Twin Cities for another
Western Conference Finals appearance?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
A good question. I'm pretty sure it's not going to happen.
I apologize because this is really taxing. I'm doing a
lot of I'm doing a lot of stuff. I'm producing
and doing I'm wearing a lot of hats. But I
do say, if if there's a finals appearance, you have
to I would have I think I would have to
move things around and say, Kevin, I'm sorry, take the
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day off. I'm busy.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Maybe you blow in with KG.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Maybe you and KG hang because you know he's back
reunited with the club. That whole process is finally begun.
How about that? Are you and KG?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I was so impressed. I didn't I had not seen
his daughters, and they seem so mature, so likable, and
one's going to play volleyball at Michigan. Good for them.
That was great.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
That was a nice scene, A very good scene.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Glad you're well. Always good to hear your voice, my friend.
Thank you, and we will be in touch.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Always a pleasure. Craig Kilbourne kind enough to join us.
Don't forget Kevin Seffert. In about fifteen minutes doctor Dan's
inbox email guardsye jg at.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
K f A and DOC.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
American officials said yesterday that residents in three states were
being monitored for potential Haunt of virus infections after being
aboard a Dutch cruise ship where there was a deadly
outbreak of the virus. None of the people being monitored
have shown signs of illness. Official say since April eleven,
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three passengers who were aboard the Envy Hondius have died
and five others have been sickened after showing symptoms of
the haunt of virus, a rare family of viruses. According
to the WHA, this is a New York Times Overview roundup.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Story and with that I need to go.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I do appreciate your call that.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I this is kind of scary stuff right off Cape Verde.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
On Wednesday three, yesterday, three patients were evacuated from the
cruise ship, which is.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Now heading to the Canary Islands.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Two patients have landed in the Netherlands, where they are
receiving medical treatment as well. According to a statement from
ocean Wide Expeditions that's the Dutch company operating this Night
and Marrish cruise. A third patient evacuated on a separate
flight via ship originally had one hundred and fifty passengers.
It'll dock in the Canary Islands and undergo an evacuation process.
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I assume there's a very specific process as this is
these things go. I'm not sure I ever heard of
hantavirus until this story. I know it's described as a
rare but potentially deadly family of viruses spread primarily by
wild rodents such as deer mice, causing severe respiratory or
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renal illnesses in humans. Humans become infected get this by
inhaling airborne particles from dried rodent saliva, urine, or droppings.
That's not good, often while cleaning enclosed, dusty areas. Early
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symptoms flu like isn't everything fever, muscle aches, fatigue, but
can rapidly progress to severe, often fatal breathing issues. See
I wish I didn't know this. Now I know you
become infected by inhaling airborne particles from dried rodent saliva, urine,
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or droppings, So presumably rodent infestation on the boat.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I guess that part of it. Yes, that has to
be the leap.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Did you know you could get anything from dried rodent saliva?
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I didn't, I'll say I guess I always always assumed
that it wasn't good, that you didn't want to be
around it or inhale it if you didn't have to.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
But I didn't know it could be this bad. It
might be a big knocker.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Time Again, there's actually a couple stories worthy of his time,
I think if he is prepared to talk about them.
There's these the this new report about this new what's
considered one of the most lethal forms of.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Cant the pancreatic cancer.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Right, and we've got the as I understand, it's some
major breakthroughs taking place regarding the ENVIN treatments that might
revolutionize because that usually is has been I think historically
considered a death sentence, especially.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Because you don't even know you have. It's one of
those kids.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Till so late exactly right. So, yeah, that's not a
bad idea. Actually, that's not a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Seven six three guy is claiming, I have to look
this up that Gene Hackman's wife died of hantavirus. Also
had not heard of it before, but any case, I yeah,
I not. I'll double check that. That was a strange story, right,
the Hacklans It was very strange, mysterious story. But I
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had not heard the hantavirus. But a number of people are.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
That same thing it's shut down Yosemity a few years
ago it did, so it's it's new. It's one we
hadn't heard of a ton, but it's been in the
news a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Crazy cruise ships. Man, Can you get a shot for that?
I'd take a vaccine. Is there a hantavirus vaccine? There
probably will be?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
How rare?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I think it's pretty rare. I think so just on
what I've read the last couple of days. It's a
it's a And I'm trying to figure out why it's
rare because there's rodents everywhere. There's rodents, saliva drive rodent saliva,
one would assume everywhere. But it sounds like maybe you
got to be in enclosed spaces with the stuff, which
most people I guess hopefully or not.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
But then here's the tricky part. You know it's there, Yeah,
you have to clean it up. How do you go
in there without being exposed to it? That's where if
it's there, we got to clean this up. But if
we go in there and we don't take precautions, we're
going to get exposed to it. They can't just you
can't just leave it. No, that's true. That's a thankless task.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
It is.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It would be a clean up crew there. Well, one
would assume you go, you would have the proper equipment,
but would.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
You I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Maybe some of these cruise ships aren't so good about
that because that's that probably costs money, it does. I
know there's billions of cruises that take place every year
where nothing bad happened.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I know, and we never hear about this.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
It's tough, though, But when you hear that, you know,
even one of these stories a year, I go, I know,
it's too too enclosed, man, and it's just too no,
it's gon it'ld be my luck, It'll be I'll be
Larry David and I'll end up, you know, at sea
for like five years.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
That's it, because they don't let you come back because
the easiest thing is, well, we're just going to leave
them out there. We don't want other people to be exposed,
so we're just going to leave this ship.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
But do we know whether I thought historically the medical
experts said you can't.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
It doesn't get transmitted person to person.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
But then I thought I read something else saying, but
it's theoretically still possible.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So my point is, if it's not that transmissible from
one to the other, why do we have to quarantine
an entire ship. You're right, I don't know. Somebody will
tell us and maybe we get the knocker on soon
as well. Bottom of the hour. Pause, Now let's come back.
Didn't intend to talk more pro football today. We just
had Alec Lewis yesterday, but we've had some names. Finally
figured we might as well follow this because it's been
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so sort of, you know, esoteric to talk about what
kind of general manager the Vikings want, who they might
be looking at, who fits in, all that kind of stuff.
But until you have names, it doesn't seem very very concrete. Well,
according to Seaffert's Guy, a schefter at ESPN, we now
do have some names that are in the mix. Above
and beyond Rob Razinski. Kevin Seffert will help us go
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through those names, what they mean, and perhaps a couple
of other items as well.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Don't go away.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Thank you for everybody for coming here.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Hardhead makes a soft ass means stubbornness and inability to
listen results in consequences a lah a whooping From back
in the day, the Anthony Edwards quote. We're playing off
of what he said after the game too. I think, well,
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I get the attention of his teammates. Perhaps correct was
hope something does, and we'd like to think that it would.
Kevin Sefferd is kind of enough to join us via
the Connectico Water Systems hotline. Welcome back to the program.
Thank you for some bonus time today. How quickly what
kind of timetable you got sources everywhere? What's the Wilf's
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timetable to sell the team?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I thought you were gonna ask me the time on
the general manager. I was already to roll on that
one to sell the team. I do not think that
there is any timetable at this time, nor any intent
to sell the team.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
To be clear, wait a minute, now, your equivalent that
you're being very very careful with those words. That's you
said trying time, and you know it just sounded more
like you were couching it. I thought it would be
a swift and complete dismissal of a non story.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
It was a non story, it is a non story.
It will continue to be a non story until it's not,
I suppose. But that's not intended to be anything other
than telling people that the team is not for sale
and they're not considering putting it up for sale. They did.
In fact, there has been a big drop in cash
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spend this year, but there are reasons for that that
do not include a sale.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Your guy Schefter and your guy Pelsero have come up
with a list that you have written about and retweeted
as well of external general manager candidates that the Vikings
apparently have already requested interviews on. Before we get to
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the specific names, because it's nice to have some names. Finally,
beyond Rob Erzinski, is there something they all have in
common that is perhaps a clue about, philosophically speaking, the
direction the Wilfs might be interested in going this time around.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty clear, and I
did a video that'll show up on ESPN dot com
at some point today, hopefully soon. Basically, the big takeaway
from this list and we think this is the full
first round list of interviews that will probably be done
virtually until they start narrowing things down. The a little
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bit that there is not a desire at this time
from the Wilfs to hire someone with enough experience and
or juice to come in and overall, the entire football
operations and change the way they operate, change the way
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they think, changed the way they do their fundamental day
to day business. These are all assistant general managers who
came up through the scouting ranks, which kind of confirms
many of our suspicions that the Vikings was sort of
the pendulum would swing back the other way towards the
hardcore football guys. And it sort of brought mind what
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Mark Wilf said in March at the owner's meetings when
a handful of us were talking to him and someone asked,
I think it was Alec Lewis, asked, what, you know,
what they were looking for in a candidate, and Mark
Wilf said a few things, but what he among that
was that he wanted people to know that they thought
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they had a very good scouting department and they have
a very good coaching staff, and that the person that
they hire would be someone that needs to fit in
with that. And so when you when you take that
sort of you know, intangible answer, and pair it with
the list of candidates that they have compiled, I think
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we can make the you know, the the conclusion here
that unless they change their direction during the process, they're
looking for someone who can fit in, uh and and
lead this group, but not come in and be the
alpha leader of the entire football organization or the entire building,
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or be someone who's going to be a massive change agent.
It doesn't appear that that's what they're looking for.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
So are we back to the once upon a time
much ridiculed triangle triangle of authority back at US?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I don't think we can aclue that yet, because that
would assume that they would be doing it differently than
they did when Quaysy a Dolpha Mensa was here. I mean,
it was basically Quaysy was the general manager, Kevin O'Connell
was the head coach, and so you had, you know,
it wasn't a triangle. I think Rob Prazinski was very
well thought of as the contract negotiator and the salary
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cap manager, but he was taking direction from the general manager.
And so I don't know that that we think that
that's going to change. Uh. You know, Rob's a candidate
for that general manager job, but if he does not
get it, I don't know that that means we should
assume that he would still raise in profile from where
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he was prior to Quaycy's firing, and that there would
now be three different people, meaning the general manager, the
Robert Sinski role, and the head coach who would all
be running it together. I don't know that. I mean
that could happen, but I don't know that we know
that for sure.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
So who breaks the ties?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
You know?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
If again, it'll this will be interesting because first I
guess we don't know that we're going to a situation
where there's three. But even if there's the two, if
there's the general manager and the head coach, it was
clear that Kacy Dopamensa had control of the roster and
had control over you know, draft you know, final draft decisions,
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free agent decisions, all.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
That sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
It doesn't there's no rule that says it has to
be that way. I mean a lot of coaches have
power over the fifty three man roster. A lot of
coaches have setups. And I've written about this that whether
it's formalized and contracts or just understood that while the
coach isn't necessarily the general manager isn't like doesn't have
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scouts reporting to him and all that sort of thing,
there's situations where I mean, there's no situations where the
coach gets overruled or where if there's something that the
coach is asserting himself on and wants, then that those organizations,
that's what the coach gets. And that's kind of what
they have in a Kansas City type of situation where
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Andy Reid is the coach. He's not the general manager,
but he also has a stature there for obvious and
good reasons that you know, there's not much that happens
there that doesn't at least have his stamp of approval on.
And so if when you're asking me if the next
general manager is going to continue to have control over
the fifty three man roster and continue to have final
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say over draft and everything else, I can't say that
for sure either. I think that's part of what this
process is. Kepvitn O'Connell's been with the organization for a
long time. It's been well documented that the coaches have
had an increasingly bigger role in personnel in terms of
draft and free agency. And if are they going to
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hire a general manager and then have that coaches expanded
coaches role be inflated, you know, or whatever the opposite
of expansion is I don't know. I don't know if
you can do that from a practical sense or not.
But it's a very interesting question, and it's one that
we're monitoring, and we'll ask when the hire is made.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Names are La Chargers assistant GM, Chad Alexander, Niners assistant
GM R J. Gillen, Buffalo Bill's assistant GM, Terrence Gray,
Rams assistant GM, A name familiar football named John McKay,
Seattle assistant GM Nolan Teasley, and Tennessee assistant GM Dave Ziggler. Now,
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I guess I'm maybe too much of a purist in
this regard or a traditionalist, but and look, these are
not very many jobs like these are available. So maybe
it doesn't matter to any of those candidates if they
if one of them ends up being the front runner
and even offered the job. But is it possible that
one or more of them would say, well, wait a minute, now,
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am I in charge? Am I in charge of the
football operation? Or am I not in charge of football operation?
Is that the trend so much that the way the
Vikings might want to set this up, not having somebody
who's like lords over everybody is not going to be
offensive to some of these folks, or do you think
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it could be a detriment in some cases in terms
of the interest in this position.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I mean, in theory, it could be a detriment. It
also could be a part of how they sort of
cultivated and called this list. You know, these are people
that would be fine with that, and whether whether that's
assumptions made and you still have to ask the questions,
or whether the turnkey the consultants that they've hired to
help call this list was are already aware that these
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are the profile of general managers that would be fine
with that and would be fine with a job where
they're part of the process, but they're not the you know,
the all knowing alpha of the process, I guess, And
so we'll see. But I there there could be I'm
sure there are people out there who would be willing
to take a general manager job here where they're in charge,
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but not necessarily would they be willing to take if
they were just part of the process. So I think
so whether that's a detriment or not, I think that's
what If that's what the ownership wants, then you might
as well do your best to find the people that
would fit to that and not. You know, but you
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could also argue and this is just the devil's advocate
or not, But like you could also argue that this
is your chance just to hear from people of all
the different types and styles, and you know, what would
you do if you were the GM, Like, what do
you think we need to do? Even if you don't
necessarily have reason to You don't think you're going to
hire them. They might give you some good ideas, and
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you might and you and you're always going to be
It's always interesting to know what people who are observing
your organization from the outside I think of you and
the way you operate, and what they would do differently.
And you see some you see some teams do that
with coaching searches where they're interviewing people that they may
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or may not hire, but maybe you can get some
good ideas from them, or maybe you'll file away their
answers for a few years from now, and that's all.
That's part of the opportunity you get when you have
an opening here is that you can hear from anybody
and get and who knows what that information could could
get you two.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
So part of what fascinates me about this again, is
the philosophy that is behind it? I mean, I guess
I'm still you know, if I'm interviewing for this position,
I think it's going to be a fair question to say,
all right, I'm coming in. The coach is established, we
get that, right. Maybe Brazinski stays in the same role
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he's in. I you know, I don't know, But don't
you have to find out that. All right, let's eighty
two years down the road, I conclude that this isn't
the right coach here any longer for whatever reason, whether
it's the quarterback situation, because that that person's going to inherit.
Once again, what the what has already been set up
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here at the position? So isn't it logical to want
to know, well, eventually, who gets to decide on important
decisions like that?
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Is that my job or is it not my job?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Because I still thought I had the impression that in
most franchises it was set up that way.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Am I living in the dark ages here?
Speaker 1 (34:38):
And in fact it's much more everywhere about ownership and
the president, whoever, whether it's the president of football operations
or just a general manager, does not really have that
power to say Okay, we've gone as far as we
can with this coach.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
We believe a change needs to be made now.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
They sometimes do, but you certainly can't affect it without
the full support of the owner. And you know, there's
there's there's no longer like the you know, like I'm
trying to think who was who was Mike Ditka's general
manager in Chicago? Yeah, and so like, I don't know
(35:18):
if there's like the finx type of general manager that
exists in too many places where the coach reports to
that person and you know, that's their boss, and if
they think that they're not doing that well enough and
need to be fired, they go to the owner and
say we need to fire this guy, and it's fired.
So I would you know, I frankly like it'll be again,
(35:39):
it'll be interesting, But I would be surprised if the
Vikings end up in a situation where the head coaches
working for the general manager. Period. I sort of expect both,
you know it, again, especially based on this list, I
wouldn't be surprised if if Kevin O'Connell ends up reporting
to the owner ship as well as the general manager
(36:01):
reporting to ownership. But again, it will depend on who
on who that person is that's ultimately hired and how
that how that works, and so yeah, it's here that
the Viking Vikings are heading in a direction where it'll
be a general manager's centric organization at least again based
(36:22):
on first looks at this at this group.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Jonathan from Bloomington with a question, can seaford to elaborate
on what is good about our scouting department? What makes
the Wolves Wilfs believe we have a good scouting department
as is.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Now? There's there That's a good question, and it's one
the Wilf's would be better better equipped to answer than me.
But I think, you know, there there's a lot of
talented people there, and there's been a lot of uh,
I mean, they've It's not like they haven't brought in
talented players over the course of the past two decades,
of the past decade and a half, either three through
(37:00):
the draft or through free agency or both. Like say
what you want about you know, the the the you know,
maybe the drafts in the case of Quasi, or or
maybe some free agent classes in previous tenures. But uh,
you know, they're they've they've always been a relatively talented
(37:23):
NFL team and and the regular season records during the
Wolf tenure I think reflect that. And then you can say, well,
they weren't talent enough to make deep runs into the playoffs,
and that's that's fair. But they also like there's never
been there haven't been many years where where you look
around the roster and you're like, there's just not many
difference makers here, Like they they've they've produced relatively talented
(37:44):
rosters compared to you know, the the league average, I
guess is the best way to put in So I,
if I had to guess, I would say that would
be the way the Wolfs would describe it. They haven't
experienced operations, so it's there not It's not too often
that you see them blundering in ways that suggests they
they just you know, made really bad mistakes, and so
(38:06):
that's something that's comforting as well. But I don't know
what the Wolves have to compare it to, or what
information they have about the way other teams operate either
that would make them feel like they, you know, that
satisfied with that structure.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Why are we using a search firm?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I think, you know, I personally think some of that
is uh gets overblown. I think the search firm just
is used to call the many many candidates into a
workable list and so and then beyond and if they're
doing their jobs well, they're being responsive to what the
ownership and the other people who are involved in the
(38:48):
search are telling them they're looking for. But there's no
there's no role that's as devices have to hire any
of the people that they produce or anything along those signs.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Seth wants to know out of Brooklyn Park whether Brazinski
sits in on the interviews. I assume the answer to
that has to be no. Given he's one of the candidates.
How does that factor in?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yeah, I wouldn't. I can't see it's a scenario where
he's one of the candidates and he's part of the
process too, and so I would not think that he
would be sitting in on.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Those It's interesting too, because don't we have we have
a fancy name for it's some sort of internal committee
that apparently is going to be part of where there
are going to be people from the organization who are
in on this process. Of the assumption, maybe it's even
already been established, is that Koc is going to be
in that mix too. That also interests me. Obviously, you
(39:49):
want a guy who can work with your head coach, right,
and you want a guy the head coach is comfortable
working with as well.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
But it just feels so vague to me.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
And you've gotten a wils fairly well, I mean, do
you think ultimately they trust themselves enough to say, all right,
this is the direction we want to go, or it's
going to be as simple as KOC recommends so and so,
so therefore that's the direction we're going to go. Because
again I can't help but wonder its like, well, maybe
(40:20):
KOC is recommending a specific person because he feels like
it's going to be easiest for him to hold on
to his power and maybe even add to his power
on the basis of what he knows about the specific candidate,
which might not necessarily be the best candidate in the position.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Well, I mean, there could that. I mean, that's certainly
something concerned about. You would also hope that if you know,
if his ultimate goal is to win the Super Bowl,
like he would be, you know, in search of somebody
that can best do that, or in his mind, is
best equipped to do that. So I think, like that
that's definitely part of it. The the I think that
(41:00):
the Wilfs rarely act unilaterally like that. It may have.
I think that happened with the Gentleman the firing of
claci A Delpha Mensa. They acted surprisingly and unilaterally, and
I don't think there was much consultation with anybody in
the building on that. There was a wide amount of
shock when it actually happened, But generally speaking, I don't
(41:22):
and normally I would think fans would like the fact
that owners aren't just acting out acting and hiring people
and firing people on their own. I think they they
have tended to take the advice or listen to the
feedback that they get during these processes. And you could
maybe argue it's too much, or you could argue after
twenty eight years owning the team, they should know more
(41:44):
about the people in the league and the good candidates
and the bad candidates, and the people that they should
be listening to and the people they should not be
listening to. But ultimately I think that they they don't
operate the team that way. I think they generally try
to avoid unilateral action, and I think that they do
take a lot of advice from the people that are
(42:06):
working for them that they've hired. They view it as like,
that's what we I hired you to do is to
is to be experts in these particular fields, and I
want you to provide me with the names and the
advice that will best lead us to where we want
to go. And if you're not able to do that,
after a couple of years, we'll we'll find somebody else
to do that. But I so I think that I
(42:29):
expect them to lean heavily on what Kevin O'Connell thinks,
but also Andrew Miller thinks, who is the chief operating officer,
And those are two different viewpoints. They have two different
jobs in the organization. They both have a lot of
people that report to them. But they're but and they're
but they're probably the two most powerful people in the
(42:51):
building right now. And sometimes it's good when you have
people at opposite ends of the rope pulling in different
directions to get you, uh to the exact place to
that's best for the entire building. And we'll see if
that becomes the case. But yeah, I expect the Wilfs
to ultimately take the counsel of the people in the
(43:12):
building and the people who are part of this process
seriously and ultimately it could help them over the finish
line to their found decision.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Can you envision a scenario in which Brazinski doesn't get
the call the Vikings go with somebody else, but that
he stays with the organization in the same role he's
been in as kind of a company guy right forever.
Or do you think that gets potentially a little bit
more difficult and complicated in this particular circumstance.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
I think it could depend on which of these people
get hired if it's not him, because I think you're right,
he is a company man, and he does he is
being truthful when he said when he said in February
and again in March that all he really wants to
do is play a role in in the Vikings winning
the Super Bowl, And if the Vikings hire somebody that
(44:11):
that he believes can can do that from that general
manager role, then I think he'll he would be amenable
for sure to staying in that in the previous role,
and part of that will be to make sure that
that that the connection between the two of them are
is is what it needs to be. But there's definitely
they definitely run the risk that if they hire somebody
(44:33):
that you know, either is isn't comfortable with him staying
in that job or vice versa, that that could be
you know, it could lead to Rob not being here.
But like, I don't have any specific people to say,
if they hire this guy, then he will stay, If
they hire that guy, then he won't.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
I don't have that.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
I just know that, like the whole range of possibilities
is in play.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Today is May seven, So by what May thirtieth, even earlier,
we will have vikings, will have somebody hired.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
How long do you think this is?
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Why why you're trying to throw a picnic for him
or something?
Speaker 4 (45:17):
I like the plan?
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Yeah, I you know, I was told that the thing
would take weeks, and so I think this is the
first week where it's really rolling, you know, like they've
got names, and they're setting up virtual interviews, doing virtual
interviews at some point and then I imagine they'll go
for a second round and so, you know, it's it
seems to me that that's a good you know, Memorial
(45:39):
Day ish is a good time to think that the
process could done. If it doesn't, you know, assuming they
get to there's somebody at the end of this group
that they want to hire. You know. The only the
reason it would take longer than that, I think is
if they get to it and they don't like anybody.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah, which is not.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Again, you know, I don't have any reason to think
that's the case. But I'm trying to think how it
could be that they go past a month doing this
and so we'll see. But that I think that's reasonable.
But I don't think they are holding themselves to that.
I don't think they have any real there's certainly not
a competitive rush to do it. And if there's advantages
(46:18):
to doing it by March twentieth versus I mean May
twentieth versus May twenty seventh or June second, I don't
think that. I think it's a very marginal advantage and
not one that they will rush it to meet.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
The sad reality is that there's a good chance, the
way it works here and has this spring, is that
we will still not have picnic.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
Weather by May thorath. Well, see, it'll probably be like
forty two degrees and a driving rain.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Well you'll have to get a tent and just have
some portable heaters, and we'll figure it out.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
I hope to see you soon. Thanks as always for
the time. Okay, Dan, Kevin seaffert E sp N with
some names.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
I'm not sure how much you know the names mean
to anybody, but they're out there. They're all a bunch
of they're all assistant general managers, and they're certainly familiar
within the football community, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Let's make this the top of the hour.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Pause inbox will be open at five point thirty jg
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Speaker 4 (47:20):
Top five will include
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