June 30, 2026 • 42 mins
Dan gets some help from our friend Dan Whenesota and goes down memory lane with some "On This Day" in Minnesota sports events including the day the Wolves drafted J.R. Rider!
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
I can't find a damn story I'm looking for, But
that's okay. These things happen from time to time. Our
number two Bumper to Bumper program. As I mentioned Luigi
in studio, beginning with the top of the five o'clock hour,
we'll get his opinion on there's another player who might
end up being available and intriguing name.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
That we'll get Louis thoughts on that.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
It's this whole game has become a little exhausting though, right,
Like every time there's another player that either asks for
a trade or isn't gonna try it, doesn't want a
contract extension.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Or might end up being available.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
We live now in this world where we project him
coming here, and one of them probably will at some point,
but they're not all coming.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And again it's unlikely.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
We tend to presume that everybody wants to come here,
and no other team will be interested in maybe making
their team better the way we want to make our
team better.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Right, that's the hard part of this. It's the.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It's the cross we bear as the state of hockey
and the greatest place in America to live. According to
whatever study that was within the last week or so.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Would you be willing if if this would mean the
difference between the Wolves acquiring signing lebron James or not.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Are you perfectly willing.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
To ensure that Bronnie James also receives a contract?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Of course, absolutely. Bronnie got some playoff minutes this year.
Bronnie's developing. Okay, he's not a complete wash out now
sho should he have been in the league like he
was that early?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Probably not. Yeah, I'm fine with Bronnie. Think about some
sacrifices have to be made.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Look is this like like in the old days, if
you wanted a great high school player basketball player, you
had to be willing to hire that player's high school
coach to be on your bench.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
In the old days. Well, I mean we're doing that
in high school now too. That's true.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
That's really we're doing that in high school now too. Well,
now you can just give him money you don't have Now,
you just give the player the money. You don't have
to give the coach or the dad who was the
coach the money. You don't have to do that. Let
me ask you this, because we haven't we haven't talked
a ton about the last few roster spots. To answer
your question. Yes, and I'll say this, and I mean
no disrespect to a guy everybody likes Ingles. What's the difference,
(03:04):
what's the difference? Look Bronnie James and what they've done
at the end of the bench the last couple of seasons,
and had he not. I think he's already he signed
a contract, he's going back to Australia with his family.
I think he's hanging up. The NBA career is over. No,
there isn't much difference. I mean, you could you could argue.
The difference in theory would be.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
If you try, you could try to sell this with
a straight face.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
You could say.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Endless experience, Yeah, wisdom, sure that Bronnie James can't possibly have.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I understand that's the one difference.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But in all practicality, Angles was a glorified mascot.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I mean, let's be honest, he was and we all
love him, and he was great and he gave us
great moments in the in the media. But the other thing,
because I had been thinking a lot about this, it
actually I started thinking about it because of Mike Conley,
because he's got some free agent feelers out there. It
sounds like right, and he has said that he wants
to play, and I don't think I think you more
than anybody, know how much I.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Revere Mike Conley.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Like I've been defending Mike Conley just throughout, you know,
just not playing well, but bringing let's say, bringing him back,
and then, as David Commins said, for whatever the reason,
chose not to play him, like he's going to be
behind a lot of people in the rotation, right, Mike Conley.
There's a lot of people that are going to be
in the game. So then it's why are we bringing
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him back?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Then?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I know that all I know that contributions to the
team are different, But in terms of the wisdom and
the steady hand, are we saying, like if we didn't
have Joe Engles and Mike Conley on this bench, that
the Timberwolves were going to be more moody and rocky
than they were the last couple of years, Like they
were going to be a rockier road.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Than what we've done.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Because that was the deal, right is a They're good
for the and I'm not dismissing it, but I'm also
saying it might be I mean, we.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Might be over val that contribution a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
For me on Conley now is more and I admit
I might be overrating his ability to to to offer
guidance here. It's to try to keep Lamello on the
relatively not in the off the court straight and narrow,
although we probably would be better off if he didn't
bring one of his race cars into town, but a
little bit straight. I'm more on the straight and narrow
(05:23):
on the court, right, But in all honesty, a lot
of that is myth. You know, it can help you.
I think there's moments that could help a little bit.
But in the end, for any of these guys, whether
it's moodiness or playing with the the the correct amount
of seriousness and discipline, sooner or later it's going to
have to be up to the player to do it.
But exactly, we do believe in mentors because go all
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the way back to KG Sam Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
With KG, there was absolutely a belief.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Now you could say, yeah, Sam helped, but if it
wasn't in KG, it wouldn't have mattered.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
On the other hand, who can argue with what you know?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
KG walked into Isaiah Ryder, Christian Latner, Yeah, and insanity
and so somebody had to say this isn't really the
way the league has to be, so there's a place
for it.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Think about how much of that.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
And yeah, well, and you you just hit on the
other part that I'd kind of thought about, Like, at
some point, at some point Kapriesov's going to have to
produce without Zuccarella that question, at some point Anthony Edwards
and Jaden McDaniels and at the time nas Reid, at
some point they have to take ownership of the thing
without having the nookie blanky as Pa would say, at
(06:33):
some point, Look, but can you make the argument in
in Karreso's case, what people are really saying is you
have to put a really good center next to him, right,
I mean, because I agree, it's like it's too easy
a copa for kaprisof fans to say zu coerrelative he
was unavailable.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's like, wait a minute, you're paying them all this money.
He can't be that specialized.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
But the comeback to that has been well, but you
do want has he played with what would be classified
as a as a top five center.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Probably not. Okay. Now, again, there are.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
People who say that whole position thing is overrated.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
In general.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I'll ask Louis that quitt We'll get into that again
at five. It's not a bad subject to address with
him too, So yeah, yeah, I get your point.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
But so when you asked me about the Brony thing, Yeah,
if that's what it took to get Lebron here for
a year, I would do it.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Why not? Yeah, I would too. I would say I
wouldn't feel.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Good about it, but I'd say it's it's the cost
of doing business. And again, there's, you know, no indication
that he's going to be here, although maybe we'll know
in forty five minutes because it can start at five technically, yes,
But is Lebron going to play the game as part
of this?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Is I want to be you know, I want to
milk this for everything. Yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
And I've already seen multiple reports, you know, Ramona Shelburne
McManamon kind of talking about those familiar with Lebron James
thinking sources close.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well, but here's the other thing. Somebody's saying that he's
under contract. Bronni is under contract with the Lakers for
next year.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
We could do they can always trade that it, yeah, which, yeah,
I mean I'm not locked in on the SPO track.
Bronnie James contract numbers. You know, I can barely keep
track of all the Timberwolves from time to time, so
that might be true, but yeah, Lebron's gonna milk it
for sure. To talk about the original sentence there, Lebron
is going. There's even one because everybody thinks he's going
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to the Warriors right to play with Golden State. That's
been the big rumor. Everybody thinks he's gonna go team
up with Steph Maybe get Anthony Davis, see what happens there.
One of the Shellburner, I think it was Mcmanhumon even
said today that, well, there does have to be some courting.
You know, there is going to have to be some
courting by the Warriors. He's not just going to go there,
which I think we all know Lebron well enough. And
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again with Lebron like, nothing Lebron really does at this
point bothers me. Just because I have so much reverence
for being forty one and still doing what he wants
to do.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Is why I've been locked in on Serena today. She
ended up losing.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It's like, you're forty four years old, You've done everything
in the game, and you still want to go out there.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I'm in, Well, here's the question that on Serena she
did lose. Yes, So is this like a one shot deal? Like, well, okay,
I'll see how this goes and maybe I'll stay with
it or does that mean hey, I reality just set in.
How determined is she to make this a an ongoing comeback?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I think it's ongoing?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Okay, I do, I think because it too much.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Goes into the comeback.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
To just make it a one off, you obviously have
to train, You got to practice. Even Serena, as we
just saw, you can't just pull up and play. You
have to enter the drug testing protocols, which are laborious,
and you got to let people know where you are
every single day. They're basically like Olympic athletes. They get
drug tested all the time. It's a lot of effort,
a lot of time, a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
To just be a one off.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Well you're mister tennis here, Yeah, there's that. I'm going
to debate this. Will Let's break out already? Will she tarnish?
You know, it's incredibly historic tennis player? Is she?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
How long will it be?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Will she stand this before it becomes Willie May's territory
at the end of his career.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
We go, Oh my god, you couldn't believe what it
was like at the end. I don't think. I think
she has so much you don't think it would matter.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
No, No, I think just even the reaction today, I
was actually surprised by my own reaction when she was
walking out on center court, like how much I was
affected by it, of how cool I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And I thought it was cool. I was looking forward
to it.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I was waiting all day for the match before her
to finish, and I just thought it was awesome to
see her back out there and giving it another try.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And we'll see.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Because the rumor was she was going to kind of
ease in play doubles with her sister, Venus, who's a
little bit older than she is, who's been injured the
last few years, but it's still been playing more than Serena,
and then maybe give it a try to play singles
at the US Open. That was the big rumor, and
Serena fasttracked it and just said I'm going to take
the last wild card here and go in.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
So she played at center court today.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Do you think Lebron would enjoy the great ministerta get together,
stay fair.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Absolutely, I think he would. Yeah, giant slide. I can
see it right.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Now, Lebron and the giant slide, and let him take
Brianni to the kid Away. Yeas some tickets. It'd be great,
Sweet Marta, you're kidding me. Oh my goodness, that's gonna
be that'd be good. I man, it's too he's gonna.
It's sad because he's gonna. It's obvious he's not, you know,
interested in us. Somebody asked whether Finchy would want him.
(11:23):
I think I think Finchy would be fine with him.
I think Finchy likes they. They know they need a forward, yes,
don't they? Yes, at least one.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
You could argue we need a couple, and what have
we been saying? I'm to fantasize over it's not gonna.
It's great, I know. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
The sad thing is the more I talk about it,
the more excited I get about the possibility, even though
nothing has changed with the probability that he's coming. Yeah, no,
because it does make good basketball sense.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, at this point in his career, he doesn't need
the ball in his hands anywhere near as much, and
he can do he knows how to play, so he
who knows how to do all of those other things.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Every guy we've talked about too, or every guy I've
heard discussed as well when it comes to the power forward,
is they're really only looking for a guy you know
fifteen twenty twenty five minutes. Yeah, they'll play the four
sometimes different lineups. You know, Ant might be down there,
who knows, but Lebron can give you that. Lebron can
give you that.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
On Well, let's go along here on this day. This
is via Dan Minnesota in Minnesota Sports History.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
The Minnesota Timberwolves with the I want to say it
was a fifth pick in the first round drafted.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Isaiah Junior j R. J Ryder. I remember number five,
the fifth pick, YEP out of UNLV, out of you
and l V and I care man.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
The quote from trader Jack McCloskey was, we got it
all started in Detroit drafting Isaiah. Wow, and we're going
to get it all started in Minnesota drafting another Isaiah.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
That sounded mythically at the time. I was like, wha.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Of course the Isaiah and Detroit for the kids is
Isaiah Thomas, one of the greatest. I think was definitely
one of the greatest little guards in the history of
the game. Just one of the great guards Isaiah Junior jrj.
Ryder ended up not being quite as accomplished as the
other Isaiah, who also spelled his name differently.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Wasn't that wasn't that press conference where McCloskey challenged Acid
to a fistfight.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I think it was because wasn't right.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
That was when Ryder was late, the first time we
knew we got something going for investigative reporters Chris Eisen
and Paul McEnroe. Was his first press conference I think
he was late for because allegedly he ran into traffic
on the Bay Bridge getting the airport to cut to
get on a plane to come here.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That's right, he's from Oakland.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, yeah, Now, whether it had anything to do with that,
you know, it's like frozen pipes whatever. And then you know,
Sid was the big calber Cheney guy because of Indiana,
the about Night connection Indiana University, and I think he
was giving him some grief and McCloskey challenged him to
a fight or said something to that effect. There was
a little bit of tension there on this date in
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two thousand and five, it is calamitous. Well, actually, Ryder
was fairly calamitous. He gave us the dunk contest in
ninety four.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That was enough for you. Yeah, they still play that?
I told you that was that was? That was it?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Did Ryder play in the Did we already have a
freshman game then? Like an up and comers that we
called it something else?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Ye made sworn.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
By the end of that game, Ryder was in it
and Doug Collins wanted to kill him by the in
that game. Mild manner Doug Collins. But I could be
conflating a couple of different stories. Also on this date
two thousand and five, Mike, he's fine for scalping his
Super Bowl tickets.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Okay, remember that. Of course.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Two thousand and five, twenty twenty two, Twins blow fifth
game with two run lead to Cleveland in ten games.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
They blow their fifth game in ten.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Days in which they each of those games had a
two run lead.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Apparently that's pretty specific.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
That's from Dan Minnesota, nineteen sixteen, and I think SID
covered this nineteen sixteen.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
On this date, chick Evans.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Wins the US Open at Minnicotta, and I think Sid
got the exclusive.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I'm sure he did. And in nineteen ninety on.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
This date, the Minnesota Kicks celebrated with a reunion game.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Were you a big Kicks guy?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, I honestly had never heard of the Kicks until
like ten or fifteen years ago. People who were part
of that culture swear, but I understand, I say it was.
There was nothing quite like.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I get why it was popular, but so was not
big in our house, and so that never made it.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Uh six one two guy, right, So I'll never forget
A Sony afternoon game was Shack and Penny against the Wolves.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
On that day, Ryder played like an MVP. Dude. Was
so talented? Yes he was. He was talented.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
My argument, though, against the talent getting lost in those
individual plays was he couldn't sustain it. Never, even within
a lot of games. He couldn't sustain it, let alone
a series of games or a month or half a season.
And that's why as much as people saw that nobody
had more talent than him, I don't agree. I think
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he had the sort of crowd pleasing moments where you go,
oh my god, if this could ever be harnessed, but
he was not a good defender. He could he couldn't
any and he wasn't as fundamentally sound as people want
to believe. They just remember that one or those one
or two plays whereas a thunderous East Bay funk dunk
or something else, and he's still a legend in his
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own mind, which is what's really sad about it.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Oh, there's a lot of those. I mean, he yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
If he played in this year, he would be he'd
have a podcast like Jeff Tigue, and he'd be telling
stories like Jeff t where you watch the camp and
you go, what are we talking about? And what's annoying me?
We've talked about this on the Jeff Teague thing is
whenever he says anything, everybody sends it to me. I'm
sure they send it to you, like you see what
Tigue said. You know, and I don't care what Teague said.
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I watched the team.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
We get it. He didn't want to play here. I
get it.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
And he's put a curse on Milwaukee and they've never
been good ever since then.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
The one flash for Rider, because you're right, the talent
was undeniable, but the harnessing.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
He just couldn't do it, not else. It was the
second year.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
It was the first full year back for Jordan when
the Bulls came through town and the Wolves took him
down to the wire. The Wolves played great that night.
It was the seventy two to ten Bulls. They were,
you know, killing everybody, and the Wolves were. It was
one of the best memories I have at Target Center.
I was in seventh grade and Garnett kind of came
of age. I assume Marbury would have had to have
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been on the team. Maybe it was a year off.
But Rider actually went toe to toe with Jordan for
a stretch, like was scoring with him and was guarding
him and making it really hard on Michael the glove.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I had no problem with Gary Paton when the hand
of that that video.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah that if they did the same thing of what
you're describing about Ryder, he'd be chuckling the same way.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Well, I'll finish the story. I'll put a lid on
him with this. Ryder was guarding him really well, but
Jordan was still obviously scoring because he was Jordan, and
Mike had him in the post probably about you know,
the elbow.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I want to say, and Jr.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Did a great job of stopping like move one, move
to move three, move four, and I'm like the fifth
iteration of the move, Jordan got just enough space to
do a fade away. Yeah, with Rider all over him,
Ryder like throws his arms up in disgust because he
feels like I've done everything, what else can I do?
And Jordan was backpedaling, and I swear he was looking.
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He was looking at Ryder and he just had the
smirk on his face, like that's why I'm Michael Jordan
bro and You're not what a killer?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I just I'll never just the calm back pedal, like,
oh you thought you had me? Well, how you all?
How cruel do you have to be to all? But
to be interested enough.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
In reducing Derek Martin to a basically blubbering fool.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Out of basketball court? Remember what they he is?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Because because Derek said something about a half, a good
half he had against Michael and and then remember I
mean they they yes, I mean in in a in
a basketball sense, he got murdered.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
They murdered him. They killed him. Yeah, he didn't even
know what city he was in by the end of
that game.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
And you say to yourself, it's Derek Martin, who cares
you're when you're a killer, you don't care exactly right,
You're gonna You're gonna kill everybody, including you.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
You may even want to slay the bear, but not
with a pellet gun. This is bumper with Dan Barrero.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Six two guy writes, you guys are underestimating Isaiah Junior
j R.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
J Ryer's ingenuity.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Remember he got busted for smoking weed out of a POPCN.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
There were some odd details to some of his transgressions,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Where are we here? Let me get to I. I
you know, I didn't see this coming, but that's the beauty.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Of the the inbox.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Where did it go? I thought I started?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
This comes from hold on, it's either disappearing on me. No,
here it is Dan. It's interesting the bowling reference in
Minnesota that I made earlier from the comment from the
governor today. There is co ed season in the fall,
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in which over one hundred and twenty five schools participate,
and boys and girls are eligible for varsity and JV teams. However,
there's also a girl's only league that runs in the winter.
About forty schools participate.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
In that league.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
The number one girl bowler in the States statistically, Savannah Bertman,
competes on her school's VARSITI and will be competing in
Junior Gold Nationals, which is here in Minnesota in two weeks.
More than two hundred fifty colleges have bowling, yes, and
there are men's and women's divisions, but women are allowed
to compete with men if there aren't enough women to
feel a team. Many colleges offer bowling scholarships NAIA or
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Division two. This is from Dan Squid High School bowling coach.
So it's interesting because is it possible I'm not a
great bowling mind, both a little but not a lot.
I mean, would that Could that be a sport in
which it's viewed as one that there's not necessarily a
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great advantage if you're a biological male, would or at
least would it be less? Would it show up less
than a number of other sports bowling?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
You tell me, yeah, I'm guessing at the highest level
there's still something about prett believe it or not, physicality
with how hard you can roll it and maybe how
hard you can get the spin to go. Being able
to hold the sixteen pound bowling ball as opposed to
the twelve pound and what that does for you. That,
again is at the highest level, which I am not,
but typically bowling is a fairly smooth co ed experience.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
That's why they have bowling leagues. I'll take your word
for it.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
So I couldn't tell you at the highest level, but
in terms of the more recreational bowlding, I would think
that the playing field is fairly even.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
And now it's time for ode to a dead guy.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
This is very, very late.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
By all accounts that this ode should have been issued
what at least five days ago, maybe six.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
David Clayton Thomas.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Lead singer of a group that the kids probably won't
know named Blood, Sweat and Tears.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
That's a good name for a group, don't you think?
Very good? Blood Defective, Sweat and Tears.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
He passed away at the age of eighty four years
old in I think June twenty four or twenty five, and.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I guess I was not.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I would My argument on David Clayton Thomas is that
he had one of the most distinctive voices in popular music,
going back to you know, largely the seventies Spinning Wheel.
You've made me so very happy, and when I die
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some terrific songs. And what I didn't know was his backstory.
He was apparently he was a homeless Toronto runaway who
learned guitar in prison and then eventually goes on to
become the lead singer of Blood, Sweat and Tears. I
don't know if the cause of death was ever noted.
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He joined the band in nineteen sixty eight, shortly after
it was formed. And it's funny we just oded last week.
Clive Davis didn't we Yes, Here's what Clive Davis, who
was then president of Columbia Records, wrote in his memoir
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about his first meeting with David Clayton Thomas. He jumped
right at you, I should say he jumped out at you.
He seems so genuine, so in command of the lyric lines,
a perfect combination of fire and emotion to go with
the band somewhat cerebral appeal. He was almost animalistic. So
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there was some pop, a lot of horns, you know,
back then they were popular about the same time Chicago was,
so horns were a big part of the ensemble. I
didn't realize Bltz Whaten and Tears played at Woodstock nineteen
sixty nine won the Grammy for Album of the Year
in nineteen seventy for its self titled release that included
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You've Made Me So Very Happy, the Brenda Holloway song,
Spinning Wheel, Laura Niro When I Die, God Blessed the Child,
a version of that Billie Holiday song too. David Clayton Thomas.
I would say gone, but not forgotten. But it's not
a name because you know, we've got a lot of
people who hang around forever and come back and do legend,
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you know, legend stuff. And I don't know if he did.
I don't remember like seeing him on tour, you know,
hearing about him being on tour. I don't know what
he did in h later in life. Here's what's interesting too,
I'd never heard this story.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Let's see I can cover it.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
By the way, Isaiah Ryder, I'm trying to do some research.
Would have been playing in the inaugural chick Rookie Game
at All Stars Saturday, held a Target Center in Minneapolis,
because he was a rookie that year. Yeah, so he
would have been playing in that game.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
So I'm right about I know.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I know Doug College was Therefore it and I know
there was either some bad body language from Collins or
it was something he said after the game that I
might have noted.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I'm gonna have to look this up now during Louis. Yeah,
It's it's again.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I whether I would have noted it right away in
a column or would have saved it for something, but
there was something that stuck with me that, you know,
Doug Collins is.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Like, oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
There's that triggered something in me to say, we ever
is this guy ever going to figure it out?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
And the sad reality is he really never did.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Many BS and T fans turned on the group when
it became the first major American rock band to perform
behind the Iron Curtain in Yugoslavia, Romania, and Poland as
part of a State Department sponsored tour to promote cultural exchange.
It was later reported in the twenty twenty three documentary
What the Hell Happened To, Blood, Sweat and Tears that
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the Nixon administration had presented David Clayton Thomas with an
ultimatum play the tour in return for permanent residency in
the United States or be forced to leave the country.
It sounds like something Trump would do because of his
criminal record, which included arrest in Canada and a prior
deportation from the United States for overstaying his visa, the
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band decided to had no choice but to comply with
the State Department's request.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
We were blackmailed.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Steve Katz, a guitarist who was a founding member of
the band, said in the documentary the arrangement involving Clayton
Thomas was not public knowledge, and the band's decision to
associated with the Nickson administration, which was reviled by its
counterculture fan base, left members open to criticism.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Many fans called them sellouts.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Example, at Blood Sweat and Tears first post Big post
tour show after going behind the Iron Curtain at Madison
Square Garden, the anti war activist Abby Hoffman and his
followers carried signs defaming the band protesters through dog feces
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on the stage.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Hey, I had no idea about that. Backstory the team.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
The founding drummer, we became the most uncool band in
the world.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
A great voice.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
If you haven't heard it, try a Blood Sweat and
Tears to any Blood Sweat and Tears tune. It's a
voice of I would call authority great distinction, but great
authority to you could tell David Clayton Thomas was in
charge up on the stage, gone but not forgotten.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
How about a little World Cup conversation when we get
caught up here.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
The Pentagon, the meat wall, and now the octopus.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Will explain next you're listening to Barrera on the fan.
Some people say soccer culture doesn't coming up in studio.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
At the top of the hour, Scott and Duluth reveals
that he saw blood, sweat and tears after a striker
indoor soccer game at met Center in nineteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
And eighty seven. How about that love it? Yeah, that's
outstating why not?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It is a lot of language, no game footage, but
awesome story about Ryder an MJ game that you talked about.
Is he saying he looked up Smiths three one oh guy,
that he found some stuff beyond what you said, or
he's saying he appreciated what you brought up.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Maybe yeah, maybe it's that It could be both. I
don't know. It was an incredible game.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
That was the game where after the game KG declared
himself he was.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Now come fourth quarter, bring me to the ticket. No
but he was a duck kid. Duck kid. Okay da kid?
That was his big proclamation. Yeah, and he played great.
They ended up losing well in the in the highly
decorated Prince motion picture Purple Rain. Wasn't he played? Wasn't
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Prince playing? Was it the kid or duck hid?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I think it might have been the kid. Might have
been with the ta Yeah, kg just went with duck kidd.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I am looking at the Star Tribune archives about All
Star Weekend. I haven't found what you wrote, Shot. But
what's funny and not surprising is Ryder was going through
the entire All Star Weekend process, the Rookie game, the
Dunk contest, having been suspended by the Wolves for their
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most recent game because he missed practice on the road.
Here's Jack McCloskey. His time management is different from most people.
I never heard of a player missing practice on the road.
I barely did, and Sidney Lowe had to bench them.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Oh how good is that he missed it? He's missed
at least four is a Rachel Blunt story.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
He's missed at least four practices this season, each bringing
automatic fines from the Wolves.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
His time managed and it's different from most people.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Is Blair after low or before it's Bill Blair the
Salty Sea Captain.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
That's a great question.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
He had to have been after, because yeah, he was after.
Nobody despised writer like the Salty Sea Captain. I mean
it was visceral, it was clinical. Where was I here?
I got a couple of World Cup items? I want
to uh to get to. Oh philosophical question. Are we
glad we graduated from throwing dog feces onto the stage
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to gluing hands on the floor? Is that progress in
the in the realm of protest? What's a better form,
more effective form of protest? Is it throwing dog poop
on the stage, which apparently is what Abbie Hoffman and
his his uh dantifa's did to protest blood, sweat and
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tears appearance? Or the anti chicken Glenn Taylor with the
chicken or four of the chickens gluing hands.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I think it's the glue. I think anytime the glue
is more effective, it is. And sadly you're putting yourself
on the line. Yeah, that's true. When you're throwing something
and then back then too you didn't even really risk
being caught because they didn't have the technology that they have.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Now we've talked.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Pentagon, we've talked meat wall and during this World Cup,
we now need to talk about the octopus.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Really.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Well, you mentioned France is back in action later today,
correct night.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah, they might be playing right now. I be playing now. Yeah,
I was watching tennis, your guy a Jason Gay Wall
Street Journal. I watched Leblue.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
In person the other day, and their front line is
an octopus like Marvel, expanding its tentacles then striking with violence.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Do they do they use the octopus strategy versus our way.
It wasn't Imbappe but compatriot. I'm gonna bunch butcher the
name Osmine dem Bele. Dem Bele who piled on the
scoring with a first half hat trick. I'm looking forward
to seeing the French. I don't think I've seen him
in this in this pornament so far. Well, they're up
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one nil right now, halftime against Sweden. Channel Aaron Fox.
If you go to at on nine in there, you'll
be able to watch the second half.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I believe it wasn't on here already. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
We are of course your World Cup leader, for sure.
Here's the other now tonight it's Mexico and Ecuador.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Correct. Have you heard about the controversy? There? No?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Mexican soccer fans orchestrated a disruptive overnight campaign outside the
Ecuadorian teams hotel, aiming to deprive them of sleep ahead
of the World Cup Round of thirty two match tonight.
From midnight into the early hours, dozens of supporters gathered
outside the Weston Hotel in Santa Fe and Upscale District
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on the outskirts of Mexico City, deploying loudspeakers, horns, and
motorcycles to disturb the visiting squad's rest. This tactic, known
as team hotels sarenade.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Did you know that night?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I never heard it officially called that, but this happens
from time to time.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Is a deeply ingrained yet polarizing tradition in Latin American soccer.
While initially a passionate display of support for home teams,
it has increasingly evolved into a psychological weapon designed to
undermine visiting players by robbing.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Them of a good night's sleep.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Following the incidents, the Ecuadorian Soccer Federation announced that it
has filed a formal complaint with tournament organizers. Such conduct
stands in start contrast to the principles of fair play, equity,
and unity that a World Cup should embody. The our
organization respectfully calls upon the competent authorities to pay greater
attention to these events and to adopt the necessary measures
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to safeguard to the safety of our players, coaching staff,
and fans. The fan ambush, reportedly organized via wait for it,
social media, who knew, compounded what was already a chaotic
arrival for Ecuador. This disruption capped off a grueling logistical
ordeal for the South American team, which had deliberately planned
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a last minute Monday night arrival. They waited to get
in before to the night before to mitigate the effects
of Mexico Mexico City's challenging two meters that's seven three
hundred foot altitude. Sports scientists typically recommend either an extended
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acclimatization period of time of at least two weeks, or
a fly in, flyout approach, arriving as close to kickoff
as possible to.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Avoid acute symptoms of thin air.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
So there's your backstory right there, and Apparently they had delays.
They were training in Columbus, Ohio. Flight was delayed more
than three hours, then the transfer of the hotel and
it'd be a nine hour jurdy.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
So none of it. So they made they may have
gotten any sleep the night before.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
So there's your revenge factor for the Ecuadorian team tonight
against homestanding Mexico.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
All's fair in the World Cup, man, there's no rules,
all's fair.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
They're also complaining about the fact that the team landed
forty one miles from their hotel, then forced to navigate
in Mexico City's notoriously heavy traffic, which was further intensified
by heavy night rain on Monday. So maybe no sleep
for these guys at all. I wonder if the vuvuzela
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was used. They're banned apparently from the arenas of the
World Cup this year.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
This just this year. Well I think it's policy they
started just this year.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, interesting, no more because a wuuzela is hard to hide,
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yes, it's a big instrument. Yeah, it's definitely a big instrument.
But I got to say, as a guy who grew
accustomed to it, because it does just become background noise.
It's weird to not hear it now when you don't
watch soccer as much as you know soccer fans watch soccer.
I became accustomed to actually hearing it when I would
tune into a game, and now it's a little bit
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empty now you.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Actually miss it.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
It's not that I miss it. It just feels weird
that I don't hear it. Something doesn't feel right.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
This is to you from Dan Minnesota. It's actually to me.
Tell JG to check his email.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
I just sent him your column on the writer performance
at the Rookie Game. Oh perfect, So apparently I did.
I must have mentioned it somewhere. Writer did admit in
the quote I saw that they were coasting. It was
lamenting the fact that they were coasting. So I'm guessing
the Rookie Game. Yes, I think that's what they called
it then, right, it wasn't as true. There wasn't the
production wasn't as slick and fancy as it has become.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
No, that was the first Rookie game.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, well, I'm just saying All Star Game weekend in general, right,
all of it was. It already had a little bit
of social business appeal, but it's become so much slicker
and so much less about the fans over the decades before.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Officially free agency.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
NBA free agency starts in three minutes Central time, and
I'm just going to tell you I'm not making any predictions.
I'm not trying to get anybody going. But according to sources,
Lebron James has instructed his representation.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
To approach him.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
With overtures from every team that's interested in the National
Basketball Association, not just Golden State, not just Cleveland. Any
team that has interest. He wants to know about it,
go to his representatives and they will then pass along
the details to Lebron James. He is a free free
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agent opened for business.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
The ball is now.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I would take him in Tim Connley's court. I would
take him. It'd be the talk of the league wherever
he goes. Yeah, he's box office, He's Lebron.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Be a great fit.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Somebody, by the way, earlier was saying, why do you
want You know, we used to rip Cat for.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Whining too much? Yes, which is true.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I mean I definitely took some shots at him. I mean,
I'm not gonna lie about it. And his premise was,
why would you want someone who whines more often than
Karl Anthony Towns, And all I was going to say
to that texature.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Is that in his how many seasons have been in
the league.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
He came in the league in two thousand and three
h four, Yes, so twenty two years, twenty one years,
whatever it's been. In his last season, at age forty
one forty three, he shot fifty one point five percent
from the floor, averaged six point one rebounds, seven point
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two assists, twenty point nine points.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
That's why, if you want, we've got too many.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
People in our audience who because a player occasionally does
whine too much or plays that role, literally reduces their
entire career and resume to I remember when he was
really complaining about that call, and again and.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Again and again. It really annoyed me.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
And I'm not saying you don't have a right to
be annoyed, but you can't reduce somebody's career as if
that's the only thing that they did. And if you
do do that, then you're not going to be a
very good judge of talent, right, I mean, come on, man,
that's not the whole story. It may be part of
the story, right, but somebody who knows the game that
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way come on now again. I don't expect him to
be coming here, but oh, maybe there's other options dry up.
We can be the fallback who bumper to bumper with
Dan Burrero on the Fan
I can't find a damn story I'm looking for, But
that's okay. These things happen from time to time. Our
number two Bumper to Bumper program. As I mentioned Luigi
in studio, beginning with the top of the five o'clock hour,
we'll get his opinion on there's another player who might
end up being available and intriguing name.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
That we'll get Louis thoughts on that.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
It's this whole game has become a little exhausting though, right,
Like every time there's another player that either asks for
a trade or isn't gonna try it, doesn't want a
contract extension.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Or might end up being available.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
We live now in this world where we project him
coming here, and one of them probably will at some point,
but they're not all coming.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And again it's unlikely.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
We tend to presume that everybody wants to come here,
and no other team will be interested in maybe making
their team better the way we want to make our
team better.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Right, that's the hard part of this. It's the.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It's the cross we bear as the state of hockey
and the greatest place in America to live. According to
whatever study that was within the last week or so.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Would you be willing if if this would mean the
difference between the Wolves acquiring signing lebron James or not.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Are you perfectly willing.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
To ensure that Bronnie James also receives a contract?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Of course, absolutely. Bronnie got some playoff minutes this year.
Bronnie's developing. Okay, he's not a complete wash out now
sho should he have been in the league like he
was that early?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Probably not. Yeah, I'm fine with Bronnie. Think about some
sacrifices have to be made.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Look is this like like in the old days, if
you wanted a great high school player basketball player, you
had to be willing to hire that player's high school
coach to be on your bench.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
In the old days. Well, I mean we're doing that
in high school now too. That's true.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
That's really we're doing that in high school now too. Well,
now you can just give him money you don't have Now,
you just give the player the money. You don't have
to give the coach or the dad who was the
coach the money. You don't have to do that. Let
me ask you this, because we haven't we haven't talked
a ton about the last few roster spots. To answer
your question. Yes, and I'll say this, and I mean
no disrespect to a guy everybody likes Ingles. What's the difference,
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what's the difference? Look Bronnie James and what they've done
at the end of the bench the last couple of seasons,
and had he not. I think he's already he signed
a contract, he's going back to Australia with his family.
I think he's hanging up. The NBA career is over. No,
there isn't much difference. I mean, you could you could argue.
The difference in theory would be.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
If you try, you could try to sell this with
a straight face.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
You could say.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Endless experience, Yeah, wisdom, sure that Bronnie James can't possibly have.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I understand that's the one difference.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But in all practicality, Angles was a glorified mascot.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I mean, let's be honest, he was and we all
love him, and he was great and he gave us
great moments in the in the media. But the other thing,
because I had been thinking a lot about this, it
actually I started thinking about it because of Mike Conley,
because he's got some free agent feelers out there. It
sounds like right, and he has said that he wants
to play, and I don't think I think you more
than anybody, know how much I.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Revere Mike Conley.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Like I've been defending Mike Conley just throughout, you know,
just not playing well, but bringing let's say, bringing him back,
and then, as David Commins said, for whatever the reason,
chose not to play him, like he's going to be
behind a lot of people in the rotation, right, Mike Conley.
There's a lot of people that are going to be
in the game. So then it's why are we bringing
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him back?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Then?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I know that all I know that contributions to the
team are different, But in terms of the wisdom and
the steady hand, are we saying, like if we didn't
have Joe Engles and Mike Conley on this bench, that
the Timberwolves were going to be more moody and rocky
than they were the last couple of years, Like they
were going to be a rockier road.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Than what we've done.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Because that was the deal, right is a They're good
for the and I'm not dismissing it, but I'm also
saying it might be I mean, we.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Might be over val that contribution a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
For me on Conley now is more and I admit
I might be overrating his ability to to to offer
guidance here. It's to try to keep Lamello on the
relatively not in the off the court straight and narrow,
although we probably would be better off if he didn't
bring one of his race cars into town, but a
little bit straight. I'm more on the straight and narrow
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on the court, right, But in all honesty, a lot
of that is myth. You know, it can help you.
I think there's moments that could help a little bit.
But in the end, for any of these guys, whether
it's moodiness or playing with the the the correct amount
of seriousness and discipline, sooner or later it's going to
have to be up to the player to do it.
But exactly, we do believe in mentors because go all
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the way back to KG Sam Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
With KG, there was absolutely a belief.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Now you could say, yeah, Sam helped, but if it
wasn't in KG, it wouldn't have mattered.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
On the other hand, who can argue with what you know?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
KG walked into Isaiah Ryder, Christian Latner, Yeah, and insanity
and so somebody had to say this isn't really the
way the league has to be, so there's a place
for it.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Think about how much of that.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
And yeah, well, and you you just hit on the
other part that I'd kind of thought about, Like, at
some point, at some point Kapriesov's going to have to
produce without Zuccarella that question, at some point Anthony Edwards
and Jaden McDaniels and at the time nas Reid, at
some point they have to take ownership of the thing
without having the nookie blanky as Pa would say, at
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some point, Look, but can you make the argument in
in Karreso's case, what people are really saying is you
have to put a really good center next to him, right,
I mean, because I agree, it's like it's too easy
a copa for kaprisof fans to say zu coerrelative he
was unavailable.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's like, wait a minute, you're paying them all this money.
He can't be that specialized.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
But the comeback to that has been well, but you
do want has he played with what would be classified
as a as a top five center.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Probably not. Okay. Now, again, there are.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
People who say that whole position thing is overrated.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
In general.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I'll ask Louis that quitt We'll get into that again
at five. It's not a bad subject to address with
him too, So yeah, yeah, I get your point.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
But so when you asked me about the Brony thing, Yeah,
if that's what it took to get Lebron here for
a year, I would do it.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Why not? Yeah, I would too. I would say I
wouldn't feel.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Good about it, but I'd say it's it's the cost
of doing business. And again, there's, you know, no indication
that he's going to be here, although maybe we'll know
in forty five minutes because it can start at five technically, yes,
But is Lebron going to play the game as part
of this?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Is I want to be you know, I want to
milk this for everything. Yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
And I've already seen multiple reports, you know, Ramona Shelburne
McManamon kind of talking about those familiar with Lebron James
thinking sources close.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well, but here's the other thing. Somebody's saying that he's
under contract. Bronni is under contract with the Lakers for
next year.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
We could do they can always trade that it, yeah, which, yeah,
I mean I'm not locked in on the SPO track.
Bronnie James contract numbers. You know, I can barely keep
track of all the Timberwolves from time to time, so
that might be true, but yeah, Lebron's gonna milk it
for sure. To talk about the original sentence there, Lebron
is going. There's even one because everybody thinks he's going
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to the Warriors right to play with Golden State. That's
been the big rumor. Everybody thinks he's gonna go team
up with Steph Maybe get Anthony Davis, see what happens there.
One of the Shellburner, I think it was Mcmanhumon even
said today that, well, there does have to be some courting.
You know, there is going to have to be some
courting by the Warriors. He's not just going to go there,
which I think we all know Lebron well enough. And
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again with Lebron like, nothing Lebron really does at this
point bothers me. Just because I have so much reverence
for being forty one and still doing what he wants
to do.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Is why I've been locked in on Serena today. She
ended up losing.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It's like, you're forty four years old, You've done everything
in the game, and you still want to go out there.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I'm in, Well, here's the question that on Serena she
did lose. Yes, So is this like a one shot deal? Like, well, okay,
I'll see how this goes and maybe I'll stay with
it or does that mean hey, I reality just set in.
How determined is she to make this a an ongoing comeback?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I think it's ongoing?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Okay, I do, I think because it too much.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Goes into the comeback.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
To just make it a one off, you obviously have
to train, You got to practice. Even Serena, as we
just saw, you can't just pull up and play. You
have to enter the drug testing protocols, which are laborious,
and you got to let people know where you are
every single day. They're basically like Olympic athletes. They get
drug tested all the time. It's a lot of effort,
a lot of time, a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
To just be a one off.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Well you're mister tennis here, Yeah, there's that. I'm going
to debate this. Will Let's break out already? Will she tarnish?
You know, it's incredibly historic tennis player? Is she?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
How long will it be?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Will she stand this before it becomes Willie May's territory
at the end of his career.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
We go, Oh my god, you couldn't believe what it
was like at the end. I don't think. I think
she has so much you don't think it would matter.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
No, No, I think just even the reaction today, I
was actually surprised by my own reaction when she was
walking out on center court, like how much I was
affected by it, of how cool I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And I thought it was cool. I was looking forward
to it.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I was waiting all day for the match before her
to finish, and I just thought it was awesome to
see her back out there and giving it another try.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And we'll see.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Because the rumor was she was going to kind of
ease in play doubles with her sister, Venus, who's a
little bit older than she is, who's been injured the
last few years, but it's still been playing more than Serena,
and then maybe give it a try to play singles
at the US Open. That was the big rumor, and
Serena fasttracked it and just said I'm going to take
the last wild card here and go in.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
So she played at center court today.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Do you think Lebron would enjoy the great ministerta get together,
stay fair.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Absolutely, I think he would. Yeah, giant slide. I can
see it right.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Now, Lebron and the giant slide, and let him take
Brianni to the kid Away. Yeas some tickets. It'd be great,
Sweet Marta, you're kidding me. Oh my goodness, that's gonna
be that'd be good. I man, it's too he's gonna.
It's sad because he's gonna. It's obvious he's not, you know,
interested in us. Somebody asked whether Finchy would want him.
(11:23):
I think I think Finchy would be fine with him.
I think Finchy likes they. They know they need a forward, yes,
don't they? Yes, at least one.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
You could argue we need a couple, and what have
we been saying? I'm to fantasize over it's not gonna.
It's great, I know. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
The sad thing is the more I talk about it,
the more excited I get about the possibility, even though
nothing has changed with the probability that he's coming. Yeah, no,
because it does make good basketball sense.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, at this point in his career, he doesn't need
the ball in his hands anywhere near as much, and
he can do he knows how to play, so he
who knows how to do all of those other things.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Every guy we've talked about too, or every guy I've
heard discussed as well when it comes to the power forward,
is they're really only looking for a guy you know
fifteen twenty twenty five minutes. Yeah, they'll play the four
sometimes different lineups. You know, Ant might be down there,
who knows, but Lebron can give you that. Lebron can
give you that.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
On Well, let's go along here on this day. This
is via Dan Minnesota in Minnesota Sports History.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
The Minnesota Timberwolves with the I want to say it
was a fifth pick in the first round drafted.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Isaiah Junior j R. J Ryder. I remember number five,
the fifth pick, YEP out of UNLV, out of you
and l V and I care man.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
The quote from trader Jack McCloskey was, we got it
all started in Detroit drafting Isaiah. Wow, and we're going
to get it all started in Minnesota drafting another Isaiah.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
That sounded mythically at the time. I was like, wha.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Of course the Isaiah and Detroit for the kids is
Isaiah Thomas, one of the greatest. I think was definitely
one of the greatest little guards in the history of
the game. Just one of the great guards Isaiah Junior jrj.
Ryder ended up not being quite as accomplished as the
other Isaiah, who also spelled his name differently.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Wasn't that wasn't that press conference where McCloskey challenged Acid
to a fistfight.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I think it was because wasn't right.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
That was when Ryder was late, the first time we
knew we got something going for investigative reporters Chris Eisen
and Paul McEnroe. Was his first press conference I think
he was late for because allegedly he ran into traffic
on the Bay Bridge getting the airport to cut to
get on a plane to come here.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That's right, he's from Oakland.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, yeah, Now, whether it had anything to do with that,
you know, it's like frozen pipes whatever. And then you know,
Sid was the big calber Cheney guy because of Indiana,
the about Night connection Indiana University, and I think he
was giving him some grief and McCloskey challenged him to
a fight or said something to that effect. There was
a little bit of tension there on this date in
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two thousand and five, it is calamitous. Well, actually, Ryder
was fairly calamitous. He gave us the dunk contest in
ninety four.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That was enough for you. Yeah, they still play that?
I told you that was that was? That was it?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Did Ryder play in the Did we already have a
freshman game then? Like an up and comers that we
called it something else?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Ye made sworn.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
By the end of that game, Ryder was in it
and Doug Collins wanted to kill him by the in
that game. Mild manner Doug Collins. But I could be
conflating a couple of different stories. Also on this date
two thousand and five, Mike, he's fine for scalping his
Super Bowl tickets.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Okay, remember that. Of course.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Two thousand and five, twenty twenty two, Twins blow fifth
game with two run lead to Cleveland in ten games.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
They blow their fifth game in ten.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Days in which they each of those games had a
two run lead.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Apparently that's pretty specific.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
That's from Dan Minnesota, nineteen sixteen, and I think SID
covered this nineteen sixteen.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
On this date, chick Evans.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Wins the US Open at Minnicotta, and I think Sid
got the exclusive.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I'm sure he did. And in nineteen ninety on.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
This date, the Minnesota Kicks celebrated with a reunion game.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Were you a big Kicks guy?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, I honestly had never heard of the Kicks until
like ten or fifteen years ago. People who were part
of that culture swear, but I understand, I say it was.
There was nothing quite like.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I get why it was popular, but so was not
big in our house, and so that never made it.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Uh six one two guy, right, So I'll never forget
A Sony afternoon game was Shack and Penny against the Wolves.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
On that day, Ryder played like an MVP. Dude. Was
so talented? Yes he was. He was talented.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
My argument, though, against the talent getting lost in those
individual plays was he couldn't sustain it. Never, even within
a lot of games. He couldn't sustain it, let alone
a series of games or a month or half a season.
And that's why as much as people saw that nobody
had more talent than him, I don't agree. I think
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he had the sort of crowd pleasing moments where you go,
oh my god, if this could ever be harnessed, but
he was not a good defender. He could he couldn't
any and he wasn't as fundamentally sound as people want
to believe. They just remember that one or those one
or two plays whereas a thunderous East Bay funk dunk
or something else, and he's still a legend in his
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own mind, which is what's really sad about it.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Oh, there's a lot of those. I mean, he yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
If he played in this year, he would be he'd
have a podcast like Jeff Tigue, and he'd be telling
stories like Jeff t where you watch the camp and
you go, what are we talking about? And what's annoying me?
We've talked about this on the Jeff Teague thing is
whenever he says anything, everybody sends it to me. I'm
sure they send it to you, like you see what
Tigue said. You know, and I don't care what Teague said.
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I watched the team.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
We get it. He didn't want to play here. I
get it.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
And he's put a curse on Milwaukee and they've never
been good ever since then.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
The one flash for Rider, because you're right, the talent
was undeniable, but the harnessing.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
He just couldn't do it, not else. It was the
second year.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
It was the first full year back for Jordan when
the Bulls came through town and the Wolves took him
down to the wire. The Wolves played great that night.
It was the seventy two to ten Bulls. They were,
you know, killing everybody, and the Wolves were. It was
one of the best memories I have at Target Center.
I was in seventh grade and Garnett kind of came
of age. I assume Marbury would have had to have
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been on the team. Maybe it was a year off.
But Rider actually went toe to toe with Jordan for
a stretch, like was scoring with him and was guarding
him and making it really hard on Michael the glove.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I had no problem with Gary Paton when the hand
of that that video.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah that if they did the same thing of what
you're describing about Ryder, he'd be chuckling the same way.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Well, I'll finish the story. I'll put a lid on
him with this. Ryder was guarding him really well, but
Jordan was still obviously scoring because he was Jordan, and
Mike had him in the post probably about you know,
the elbow.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I want to say, and Jr.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Did a great job of stopping like move one, move
to move three, move four, and I'm like the fifth
iteration of the move, Jordan got just enough space to
do a fade away. Yeah, with Rider all over him,
Ryder like throws his arms up in disgust because he
feels like I've done everything, what else can I do?
And Jordan was backpedaling, and I swear he was looking.
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He was looking at Ryder and he just had the
smirk on his face, like that's why I'm Michael Jordan
bro and You're not what a killer?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I just I'll never just the calm back pedal, like,
oh you thought you had me? Well, how you all?
How cruel do you have to be to all? But
to be interested enough.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
In reducing Derek Martin to a basically blubbering fool.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Out of basketball court? Remember what they he is?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Because because Derek said something about a half, a good
half he had against Michael and and then remember I
mean they they yes, I mean in in a in
a basketball sense, he got murdered.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
They murdered him. They killed him. Yeah, he didn't even
know what city he was in by the end of
that game.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
And you say to yourself, it's Derek Martin, who cares
you're when you're a killer, you don't care exactly right,
You're gonna You're gonna kill everybody, including you.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
You may even want to slay the bear, but not
with a pellet gun. This is bumper with Dan Barrero.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Six two guy writes, you guys are underestimating Isaiah Junior
j R.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
J Ryer's ingenuity.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Remember he got busted for smoking weed out of a POPCN.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
There were some odd details to some of his transgressions,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Where are we here? Let me get to I. I
you know, I didn't see this coming, but that's the beauty.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Of the the inbox.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Where did it go? I thought I started?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
This comes from hold on, it's either disappearing on me. No,
here it is Dan. It's interesting the bowling reference in
Minnesota that I made earlier from the comment from the
governor today. There is co ed season in the fall,
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in which over one hundred and twenty five schools participate,
and boys and girls are eligible for varsity and JV teams. However,
there's also a girl's only league that runs in the winter.
About forty schools participate.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
In that league.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
The number one girl bowler in the States statistically, Savannah Bertman,
competes on her school's VARSITI and will be competing in
Junior Gold Nationals, which is here in Minnesota in two weeks.
More than two hundred fifty colleges have bowling, yes, and
there are men's and women's divisions, but women are allowed
to compete with men if there aren't enough women to
feel a team. Many colleges offer bowling scholarships NAIA or
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Division two. This is from Dan Squid High School bowling coach.
So it's interesting because is it possible I'm not a
great bowling mind, both a little but not a lot.
I mean, would that Could that be a sport in
which it's viewed as one that there's not necessarily a
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great advantage if you're a biological male, would or at
least would it be less? Would it show up less
than a number of other sports bowling?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
You tell me, yeah, I'm guessing at the highest level
there's still something about prett believe it or not, physicality
with how hard you can roll it and maybe how
hard you can get the spin to go. Being able
to hold the sixteen pound bowling ball as opposed to
the twelve pound and what that does for you. That,
again is at the highest level, which I am not,
but typically bowling is a fairly smooth co ed experience.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
That's why they have bowling leagues. I'll take your word
for it.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
So I couldn't tell you at the highest level, but
in terms of the more recreational bowlding, I would think
that the playing field is fairly even.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
And now it's time for ode to a dead guy.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
This is very, very late.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
By all accounts that this ode should have been issued
what at least five days ago, maybe six.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
David Clayton Thomas.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Lead singer of a group that the kids probably won't
know named Blood, Sweat and Tears.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
That's a good name for a group, don't you think?
Very good? Blood Defective, Sweat and Tears.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
He passed away at the age of eighty four years
old in I think June twenty four or twenty five, and.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I guess I was not.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I would My argument on David Clayton Thomas is that
he had one of the most distinctive voices in popular music,
going back to you know, largely the seventies Spinning Wheel.
You've made me so very happy, and when I die
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some terrific songs. And what I didn't know was his backstory.
He was apparently he was a homeless Toronto runaway who
learned guitar in prison and then eventually goes on to
become the lead singer of Blood, Sweat and Tears. I
don't know if the cause of death was ever noted.
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He joined the band in nineteen sixty eight, shortly after
it was formed. And it's funny we just oded last week.
Clive Davis didn't we Yes, Here's what Clive Davis, who
was then president of Columbia Records, wrote in his memoir
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about his first meeting with David Clayton Thomas. He jumped
right at you, I should say he jumped out at you.
He seems so genuine, so in command of the lyric lines,
a perfect combination of fire and emotion to go with
the band somewhat cerebral appeal. He was almost animalistic. So
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there was some pop, a lot of horns, you know,
back then they were popular about the same time Chicago was,
so horns were a big part of the ensemble. I
didn't realize Bltz Whaten and Tears played at Woodstock nineteen
sixty nine won the Grammy for Album of the Year
in nineteen seventy for its self titled release that included
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You've Made Me So Very Happy, the Brenda Holloway song,
Spinning Wheel, Laura Niro When I Die, God Blessed the Child,
a version of that Billie Holiday song too. David Clayton Thomas.
I would say gone, but not forgotten. But it's not
a name because you know, we've got a lot of
people who hang around forever and come back and do legend,
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you know, legend stuff. And I don't know if he did.
I don't remember like seeing him on tour, you know,
hearing about him being on tour. I don't know what
he did in h later in life. Here's what's interesting too,
I'd never heard this story.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Let's see I can cover it.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
By the way, Isaiah Ryder, I'm trying to do some research.
Would have been playing in the inaugural chick Rookie Game
at All Stars Saturday, held a Target Center in Minneapolis,
because he was a rookie that year. Yeah, so he
would have been playing in that game.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
So I'm right about I know.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I know Doug College was Therefore it and I know
there was either some bad body language from Collins or
it was something he said after the game that I
might have noted.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I'm gonna have to look this up now during Louis. Yeah,
It's it's again.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I whether I would have noted it right away in
a column or would have saved it for something, but
there was something that stuck with me that, you know,
Doug Collins is.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Like, oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
There's that triggered something in me to say, we ever
is this guy ever going to figure it out?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
And the sad reality is he really never did.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Many BS and T fans turned on the group when
it became the first major American rock band to perform
behind the Iron Curtain in Yugoslavia, Romania, and Poland as
part of a State Department sponsored tour to promote cultural exchange.
It was later reported in the twenty twenty three documentary
What the Hell Happened To, Blood, Sweat and Tears that
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the Nixon administration had presented David Clayton Thomas with an
ultimatum play the tour in return for permanent residency in
the United States or be forced to leave the country.
It sounds like something Trump would do because of his
criminal record, which included arrest in Canada and a prior
deportation from the United States for overstaying his visa, the
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band decided to had no choice but to comply with
the State Department's request.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
We were blackmailed.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Steve Katz, a guitarist who was a founding member of
the band, said in the documentary the arrangement involving Clayton
Thomas was not public knowledge, and the band's decision to
associated with the Nickson administration, which was reviled by its
counterculture fan base, left members open to criticism.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Many fans called them sellouts.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Example, at Blood Sweat and Tears first post Big post
tour show after going behind the Iron Curtain at Madison
Square Garden, the anti war activist Abby Hoffman and his
followers carried signs defaming the band protesters through dog feces
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on the stage.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Hey, I had no idea about that. Backstory the team.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
The founding drummer, we became the most uncool band in
the world.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
A great voice.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
If you haven't heard it, try a Blood Sweat and
Tears to any Blood Sweat and Tears tune. It's a
voice of I would call authority great distinction, but great
authority to you could tell David Clayton Thomas was in
charge up on the stage, gone but not forgotten.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
How about a little World Cup conversation when we get
caught up here.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
The Pentagon, the meat wall, and now the octopus.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Will explain next you're listening to Barrera on the fan.
Some people say soccer culture doesn't coming up in studio.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
At the top of the hour, Scott and Duluth reveals
that he saw blood, sweat and tears after a striker
indoor soccer game at met Center in nineteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
And eighty seven. How about that love it? Yeah, that's
outstating why not?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It is a lot of language, no game footage, but
awesome story about Ryder an MJ game that you talked about.
Is he saying he looked up Smiths three one oh guy,
that he found some stuff beyond what you said, or
he's saying he appreciated what you brought up.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Maybe yeah, maybe it's that It could be both. I
don't know. It was an incredible game.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
That was the game where after the game KG declared
himself he was.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Now come fourth quarter, bring me to the ticket. No
but he was a duck kid. Duck kid. Okay da kid?
That was his big proclamation. Yeah, and he played great.
They ended up losing well in the in the highly
decorated Prince motion picture Purple Rain. Wasn't he played? Wasn't
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Prince playing? Was it the kid or duck hid?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I think it might have been the kid. Might have
been with the ta Yeah, kg just went with duck kidd.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I am looking at the Star Tribune archives about All
Star Weekend. I haven't found what you wrote, Shot. But
what's funny and not surprising is Ryder was going through
the entire All Star Weekend process, the Rookie game, the
Dunk contest, having been suspended by the Wolves for their
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most recent game because he missed practice on the road.
Here's Jack McCloskey. His time management is different from most people.
I never heard of a player missing practice on the road.
I barely did, and Sidney Lowe had to bench them.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Oh how good is that he missed it? He's missed
at least four is a Rachel Blunt story.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
He's missed at least four practices this season, each bringing
automatic fines from the Wolves.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
His time managed and it's different from most people.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Is Blair after low or before it's Bill Blair the
Salty Sea Captain.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
That's a great question.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
He had to have been after, because yeah, he was after.
Nobody despised writer like the Salty Sea Captain. I mean
it was visceral, it was clinical. Where was I here?
I got a couple of World Cup items? I want
to uh to get to. Oh philosophical question. Are we
glad we graduated from throwing dog feces onto the stage
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to gluing hands on the floor? Is that progress in
the in the realm of protest? What's a better form,
more effective form of protest? Is it throwing dog poop
on the stage, which apparently is what Abbie Hoffman and
his his uh dantifa's did to protest blood, sweat and
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tears appearance? Or the anti chicken Glenn Taylor with the
chicken or four of the chickens gluing hands.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I think it's the glue. I think anytime the glue
is more effective, it is. And sadly you're putting yourself
on the line. Yeah, that's true. When you're throwing something
and then back then too you didn't even really risk
being caught because they didn't have the technology that they have.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Now we've talked.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Pentagon, we've talked meat wall and during this World Cup,
we now need to talk about the octopus.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Really.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Well, you mentioned France is back in action later today,
correct night.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah, they might be playing right now. I be playing now. Yeah,
I was watching tennis, your guy a Jason Gay Wall
Street Journal. I watched Leblue.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
In person the other day, and their front line is
an octopus like Marvel, expanding its tentacles then striking with violence.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Do they do they use the octopus strategy versus our way.
It wasn't Imbappe but compatriot. I'm gonna bunch butcher the
name Osmine dem Bele. Dem Bele who piled on the
scoring with a first half hat trick. I'm looking forward
to seeing the French. I don't think I've seen him
in this in this pornament so far. Well, they're up
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one nil right now, halftime against Sweden. Channel Aaron Fox.
If you go to at on nine in there, you'll
be able to watch the second half.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I believe it wasn't on here already. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
We are of course your World Cup leader, for sure.
Here's the other now tonight it's Mexico and Ecuador.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Correct. Have you heard about the controversy? There? No?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Mexican soccer fans orchestrated a disruptive overnight campaign outside the
Ecuadorian teams hotel, aiming to deprive them of sleep ahead
of the World Cup Round of thirty two match tonight.
From midnight into the early hours, dozens of supporters gathered
outside the Weston Hotel in Santa Fe and Upscale District
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on the outskirts of Mexico City, deploying loudspeakers, horns, and
motorcycles to disturb the visiting squad's rest. This tactic, known
as team hotels sarenade.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Did you know that night?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I never heard it officially called that, but this happens
from time to time.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Is a deeply ingrained yet polarizing tradition in Latin American soccer.
While initially a passionate display of support for home teams,
it has increasingly evolved into a psychological weapon designed to
undermine visiting players by robbing.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Them of a good night's sleep.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Following the incidents, the Ecuadorian Soccer Federation announced that it
has filed a formal complaint with tournament organizers. Such conduct
stands in start contrast to the principles of fair play, equity,
and unity that a World Cup should embody. The our
organization respectfully calls upon the competent authorities to pay greater
attention to these events and to adopt the necessary measures
(35:56):
to safeguard to the safety of our players, coaching staff,
and fans. The fan ambush, reportedly organized via wait for it,
social media, who knew, compounded what was already a chaotic
arrival for Ecuador. This disruption capped off a grueling logistical
ordeal for the South American team, which had deliberately planned
(36:18):
a last minute Monday night arrival. They waited to get
in before to the night before to mitigate the effects
of Mexico Mexico City's challenging two meters that's seven three
hundred foot altitude. Sports scientists typically recommend either an extended
(36:38):
acclimatization period of time of at least two weeks, or
a fly in, flyout approach, arriving as close to kickoff
as possible to.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Avoid acute symptoms of thin air.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
So there's your backstory right there, and Apparently they had delays.
They were training in Columbus, Ohio. Flight was delayed more
than three hours, then the transfer of the hotel and
it'd be a nine hour jurdy.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
So none of it. So they made they may have
gotten any sleep the night before.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
So there's your revenge factor for the Ecuadorian team tonight
against homestanding Mexico.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
All's fair in the World Cup, man, there's no rules,
all's fair.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
They're also complaining about the fact that the team landed
forty one miles from their hotel, then forced to navigate
in Mexico City's notoriously heavy traffic, which was further intensified
by heavy night rain on Monday. So maybe no sleep
for these guys at all. I wonder if the vuvuzela
(37:47):
was used. They're banned apparently from the arenas of the
World Cup this year.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
This just this year. Well I think it's policy they
started just this year.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, interesting, no more because a wuuzela is hard to hide,
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yes, it's a big instrument. Yeah, it's definitely a big instrument.
But I got to say, as a guy who grew
accustomed to it, because it does just become background noise.
It's weird to not hear it now when you don't
watch soccer as much as you know soccer fans watch soccer.
I became accustomed to actually hearing it when I would
tune into a game, and now it's a little bit
(38:22):
empty now you.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Actually miss it.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
It's not that I miss it. It just feels weird
that I don't hear it. Something doesn't feel right.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
This is to you from Dan Minnesota. It's actually to me.
Tell JG to check his email.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
I just sent him your column on the writer performance
at the Rookie Game. Oh perfect, So apparently I did.
I must have mentioned it somewhere. Writer did admit in
the quote I saw that they were coasting. It was
lamenting the fact that they were coasting. So I'm guessing
the Rookie Game. Yes, I think that's what they called
it then, right, it wasn't as true. There wasn't the
production wasn't as slick and fancy as it has become.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
No, that was the first Rookie game.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, well, I'm just saying All Star Game weekend in general, right,
all of it was. It already had a little bit
of social business appeal, but it's become so much slicker
and so much less about the fans over the decades before.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Officially free agency.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
NBA free agency starts in three minutes Central time, and
I'm just going to tell you I'm not making any predictions.
I'm not trying to get anybody going. But according to sources,
Lebron James has instructed his representation.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
To approach him.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
With overtures from every team that's interested in the National
Basketball Association, not just Golden State, not just Cleveland. Any
team that has interest. He wants to know about it,
go to his representatives and they will then pass along
the details to Lebron James. He is a free free
(40:03):
agent opened for business.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
The ball is now.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I would take him in Tim Connley's court. I would
take him. It'd be the talk of the league wherever
he goes. Yeah, he's box office, He's Lebron.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Be a great fit.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Somebody, by the way, earlier was saying, why do you
want You know, we used to rip Cat for.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Whining too much? Yes, which is true.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I mean I definitely took some shots at him. I mean,
I'm not gonna lie about it. And his premise was,
why would you want someone who whines more often than
Karl Anthony Towns, And all I was going to say
to that texature.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Is that in his how many seasons have been in
the league.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
He came in the league in two thousand and three
h four, Yes, so twenty two years, twenty one years,
whatever it's been. In his last season, at age forty
one forty three, he shot fifty one point five percent
from the floor, averaged six point one rebounds, seven point
(41:17):
two assists, twenty point nine points.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
That's why, if you want, we've got too many.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
People in our audience who because a player occasionally does
whine too much or plays that role, literally reduces their
entire career and resume to I remember when he was
really complaining about that call, and again and.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Again and again. It really annoyed me.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
And I'm not saying you don't have a right to
be annoyed, but you can't reduce somebody's career as if
that's the only thing that they did. And if you
do do that, then you're not going to be a
very good judge of talent, right, I mean, come on, man,
that's not the whole story. It may be part of
the story, right, but somebody who knows the game that
(42:04):
way come on now again. I don't expect him to
be coming here, but oh, maybe there's other options dry up.
We can be the fallback who bumper to bumper with
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