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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Guards it's all wrapped up. Frost to Morocco nil. They
advance to the semis and I believe they're going to
take on the winner of La Roja, Belgium.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
They are yes on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah that France or should say Spain in Belgium play
in the second semi final tomorrow afternoon. During the show,
I'm not mistaken. Second quarter yes, and uh yeah it was,
I mean Neil Mill at half and then it looked
like France finally and Bappe comes through after missing a
penalty kick in the first half. It looked like pretty

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damn good goaltending is largely what kept Morocco in it.
As long as they're in it, they're not in it
anymore now to go ahead. France is on its way.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Two matches on Saturday as well, Norway and England, Argentina
and Switzerland Saturday afternoon four o'clock.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
And well, the beauty for me is I had technically
three teams in the World Cup, the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
They're gone correct, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Spain Spanish. You know, the whole family is from Spain.
Father born in Spain, but my dad's dad, my grandfather
on that side, was born in Argentina. So I got
I gotta like I'm still in this thing. I mean,
I've got blood in this thing. As saying, that's pretty good.
I guess maybe we're related to MESSI and I don't

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even know it. That would be something standing, wouldn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
I guess I should say I should probably look more
into my Norwegian.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yes, maybe I'm Holland Holland Holland and relatives.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah, maybe Rasmus guard And Holland's dad or great great
great grandpa.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Maybe they were dog you need to go on.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
That is it?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
That is it a PBS show where celebrities go on
and they they they find out stuff about their family,
their family tree they didn't even know existed because the
research has done for them.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, they find out.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Also in some cases they find out that like their
great great great great great grandfather was like a con
who murdered people. That can be a little bit sobering,
I would think, yeah, But or they can find other
you know less, shall we say, a sensational revelations.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
They're gonna need a few more seasons of that show
before they get to me. As the celebrities, they're gonna
need a few more seasons. Or maybe they can be
a Minnesota one. Maybe Fox nine could do it. Maybe
Fox nine should do it for all of us, and
we'll see if the stories that have been passed down,
because a lot of things get changed in the human
game of telephone throughout the generations.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Right, we've heard about that before.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Well we didn't tell we changed our family story because
we were embarrassed by it or something.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
That's why none of this stuff happens. That's also true.
You're right about that. I'm chuckling because earlier they showed
a shot from Casablanca, Morocco at halftime where it was
nil mill but it was like, if you're you know, Moroccan,
you feel pretty good about that because France is considered
the favorite. Well now they just showed a shot at
the end of the match from Paris and.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
It was classic. Almost nobody was like jumping up and down.
That's France.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, that they're aloof that's the whole point, their whole
they live by that identity like we're above it all.
So they looked like they were almost bored with the result.
A little different than some of the other celebration scenes
where people are losing their mind. In France, they're kind
of grinning maybe a little bit, but there's still a

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bunch of people.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
In the front. Weren't even standing. They're still sitting. It's
the French for you. Anyway.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Your Links fans were standing last night, Cheryl ree fans
standing last night.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
She finally got it done.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
She had to wait a couple of games, probably more
than she wanted to, because the Links had lost a
couple in a row, but in eighty six eighty victory
over the Connecticut Sun, a rematch from Monday's loss, You're
at Target Center.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
I could barely watch the game. I hate admitting that,
but I could barely watch the game. What do you
mean the rookie didn't play?

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Oh, I know. It changes everything. The calf thing is concerning,
isn't it. I can't.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
It's very Yeah, why I don't blame them if they're
being super cautious.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Sure, for sure. It's a complete and.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Again they to their credit, they came back. They took
care of business like they don't have any other players.
But my god, the whole speed of everything just feels
different and looks different without her already.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Need to be careful with that calf for sure. Good time.
You're absolutely right.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
So that is three hundred and eighty career regular season
victories for Cheryl Reeve. She is now number one all time,
passing the father of someone on her staff.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Eric Yeah, Mike yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
So she has the w NBA record now. She already
had the postseason one. Now she has three eighty and
that is enough. And with no signs of stopping. By
the way, this could probably stand up for a really
long time.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, the she did after the game in the interview
on TV did the cliche, well, and you know I
passed on Tony'll pass me. Maybe maybe not, because I
think now it all depends on just how long she
wants to do it right. It might she reached a
burnout stage where she prefers, I'll just do the front
office thing.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I don't know, but she got the regeneration.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
She the rejuvenation that she needed, right because post maya more,
it's like, Okay, where are you going to go with
this thing? They they are you gonna be good? Or
are you gonna have another chance to be great. Well,
they found a way to be great again at least
regular season.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Now they have to you know, pull that off in
the in the.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Postseason and win another title or you know, and they
certainly have gotten close is recently is what two years ago,
and it was disappointing finishing the playoffs. But she's got
in the Fisa Kallier. Presumably she's going to stay. We'll see.
She's got a bonifid star and now she's got the
straw that serves the drink. She's got a more explosive

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version of Lindsay Whalen is what she's got and as
a result, this could last a while, right if she
wants it to.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
And that's what you're looking for.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Because for a long time you could say, yeah, but
she had Maya Moore. Anybody could win with Maya Moore
if you wanted to believe that. I'm not sure that's
fair because I always believe if you maximize talent the
way Phil Jackson did, the way Cheryl Reeve has, I'm
not going.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
To ever rip you for that.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Remember there's not as many teams in the WAIR, so
there's a lot of really good players on all these teams.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
That's true to but what I think by by sort
of going at it a different way and building a
different kind of team, you know, through some pretty savvy
trading and some developing, et cetera. It's it's like, okay,
this is to me how you show your greatness as
a coach.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
It wasn't just about.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
That one group of players, and that one player maya.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
More in particular. All right, so we only have time
for one. Do we do Steve Finch? Do we do
David Kahn? Do we play the con thing tomorrow? We
could say that there's no reason we us see that.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
Because we have to talk about Chris Finch joining the
Summer League broadcast today with Michael Grady on Prime and
stan Van Gundy just gonna play one of the clips.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
I assume he can't talk about LaMelo ball yet, right,
is that's why I believe he can?

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Yeah, I don't believe he can, But he can talk
Dan about Joham Baronje.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Do I really have something to measure him against? When
when you first got him.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
As a rookie and you know everything that you've seen
him are going to do, and they're excited to see
how they put it into play here in year two.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
How excited are you about Baron Jay's potential?

Speaker 6 (07:59):
Yeah, I mean he played spot minutes for us this year,
gave us great energy.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
You know.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
We just we love the raw talent with the athleticism
he's developing feel fast.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
For a young player who came to the game late.

Speaker 6 (08:13):
The key for him is going to be foul trouble,
you know, staying out of foul trouble. I'm kind of
tempering his aggressiveness so he's not always going putting himself
in harm's way when it comes to foult. But we're
expecting a step forward for him, and you know, the
way that we're currently constructed, he's there's a there's a
really recortant.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Role for him.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
One his numbers from today, Sure, I'm gonna wait a minute,
let me see if I can I can predict them. Yep,
I'm gonna go nineteen points, eleven boards and four blocks.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
What eighteen points, twelve boards, four blocks, not that far off?
You're right there, You're right there. You love the baby
back Gupe. The Wolves open summer League with an authoritative,
decisive victory over the Pellan. How about the guy whose
name starts with a p you were thinking about Zion pulling.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yes, and he's a guard. By the way, he's not
a big goal. I apologize. I thought he was a
front court. No, he was electric.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Twenty four points, twelve assists and seven rebounds.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Basically, Olivia Miles.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Should we try to trade LaMelo as soon as the
trade gets a fit?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Can we trade him again? Well?

Speaker 4 (09:23):
I think they just go to LaMelo insurance for the
fifty games he doesn't play.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Never, you can never have too many wings. Yeah, how
many guards? So anyway, we opened interest with the victory today.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Well, and and Finchy has said it before, but he's
not wrong. The kids got to learn how to not foul.
And that's massive because every time I've seen him play.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
That's the issue. Is he he.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
He can pick up three files a lot quicker than
Joe Smith used to pick up two, and he's of
no use to anyone if he does not learn the
art of how to not file.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
That's true, you're aggressive.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
This has to be properly challenged, or I should say no,
that's not the word.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
I'm looking for. Properly located. I guess.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Otherwise, it doesn't matter what gifts you bring to the game.
If you can't figure out a way to keep the
files to a minimum, you're gonna end up on the
bench one.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Way or the other. There we go, let's traddle, all right,
you gotta go. Is Blake Moore coming? He's here? I
don't even see.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, he's here someone Ye, I've already talked all right,
and we got to get in. Fact, I wonder if
the chief has tried to get in you.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
That's what I told him. I said, we might need
you to let the chief so text me, oh yeah,
he is here as of uh.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Wow, ten minutes ago. I apologize.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
I'll go get the chief.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
He's coming in studio former Saint Club police chief Blair
Anderson on a number of controversial subjects.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
That's next.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
This is Boomber to Boomber with Dan.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
All right, we are indeed back five o'clock hour continues
guards thee out at Lake Morgan and our good friend
Blair Anderson, former Saint Cloud police chief, is back with
us in studio.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
First time you're in the studio in a while, correct.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
First time ever, Dan, first time ever. That's not possible,
it is. I've been invited once before, but.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I have sworn you were.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Well, I guess I'm thinking of the fair. You do
you do show up at the fair? So that's kind
of being in the studio.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
No, that's and Bryant, that police studio. So you look
you got When did the distinguished gray come in? Is
that new? I like the look. It looks good on you.

Speaker 7 (11:56):
This is what I This was my parting gift for
being she for ten years.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
I have picked with you. Yes, it was not like
this on day one. No, you look terrific.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
You got a nice little Dodgers jersey on. That's a
nice look too.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
What's that all about? It's by Jackie Robinson. Oh I
didn't see the back. Okay, Yeah, there you go. Okay,
and that's nice. He inspires me.

Speaker 7 (12:18):
Yes, so I felt like wearing that today. It's a
beautiful sunny day.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Did you get your tree work done? I should get
some tree work. He had to do earlier.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I did sands injury. Uh my wife and cut off
any fingers with the with the chainsaw. Oh, she was
a wreck when I told her I was at Monarchs. Well,
you told me and I wasn't even there. I mean,
I'm semi intelligent. You are, Yeah, I can read.

Speaker 7 (12:39):
Yeah, you know, and I spent eight years in the military.
Point yeah, I try and practice safely, but.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, yeah, you can see I have all my lambs.
You do a good job. You look fast.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Any trips lately, you guys been kind of staying around
town or you've been out and about a lot.

Speaker 7 (12:56):
Well, we're new grandparents, uh five months old, gratual. He
uh started out looking like Winston church Hill and now
you know how babies look change dramatic. Oh he's gorgeous. Yeah,
don't get me wrong, he's Gerbert baby gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Well he's not drinking like Winston Churchill yet.

Speaker 7 (13:14):
Is Yeah, no, no, but he is a human wrecking ball.
So so we've we've been enamored with with him, and
we went out to Vegas, uh to visit our oldest
son and Nice his new wife. So that's the extent
of our trips here so far this year.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
But we we've been scrambling around.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Because you got all I mean, you're still retired writer.
Have you taken on a job you haven't told us about?

Speaker 2 (13:37):
No, Dan, I'm retired.

Speaker 7 (13:39):
In fact, I was talking with Chief Hodges not long
ago and he said, you you passed the retirement like, listen, man,
I bought into the concept you don't have to work
anymore and you still get paid. And so hey, man,
I hang out in the flower garden and brune trees
and take care of my lawn and see what's going

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on in the neighbor.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
So you so far, you've told us this before. I mean,
you're not bored yet, yours for you're fine. I mean
that's always the question whether people have enough other things
to do that they go God, there's a void there.
But I don't sense that that's been an issue with
you thus far.

Speaker 7 (14:16):
Your spidy senses are spot on. I'm a full fledged
house husband. During the day, I do the chores inside
the house, but particularly in the summer, I get to
do both.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
I love being outside. Are you green thumb guy? I mean,
do you do you like?

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I mean you you plant, flout, you the whole bit,
or you got a lot of that going.

Speaker 7 (14:35):
We've got to tag team. Absolutely. I do the nurturing
and the and the maintenance and the love. My wife
can plant her tail off. So we have hydrangea, we
have little Kim. We have, of course, several varieties of hosta.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
We have lean liles, we have dog woods we have.
I mean, it's it's quite a variety there, and it's
it's enough work to stay busy and shooting at and
you obviously enjoy it.

Speaker 7 (15:10):
Yeah, I do. I don't have to go to the gym.
I feel like I've worked out.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, in the garden absolutely.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
By the way, questions for the Chief brat Sean Brian
Cafe in text line six four six eighty six, will
try to cover a decent amount of ground today now
that you've been kind enough to join us in studio.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
I mean the original.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Impetus for me was a story that I think became
a thing here over the weekend and the Ramsey County
Sheriff of Bob Fletcher, the individual you know, I think
and have some opinions on generally speaking, having the past certainly.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Made got some reaction.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
I guess I should say to he does these live
on patrol streams correct? And in this case he centered
on what Key viewed as a sign of challenge, I
guess or struggle with what he describes as Somali gangs in.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
The Twin Cities.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
I think there was a video from a double shooting
on Saturday near the Corey shopping center. This was a
Northeast Minneapolis I'm actually reading. There are a lot of accounts.
This is from Esmey Murphy. This is a cbsnews dot
com story on what he had to say.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
I think the quote.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
In the last two years, there have been fourteen Somali homicides,
one hundred plus Somali shootings, all gang related, and it
is sort of started a stir. As you well know,
there are individuals who are concerned that he because of
his use of the label of talking about Somali, that

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once again one part of the community gets stereotyped too much,
and that there's too much of that that's going on
in general, and that this is another example of it.
There been there have been some pushback from some organizations
I'm looking at. Also, this is a quote from Minnesota.
Minneapolis City council Member Jamal Osmond says that he was

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disappointed to hear Fletcher's comments. Somali youth deserve investment, dignity, opportunity,
and respect, not public officials using their platform to stereotype them.
So with that as background for the listeners who maybe
not been paying much attention to the story, I'm sure
you followed it pretty closely and aware of it. What
give me your reaction to first what I guess Fletcher

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put out and then sort of the blowback in some
circles to the way Fletcher laid it out.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
Well, from from what I read, Dan, I don't know
what these folks want him to say or how they
want him him to phrase it.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
I cannot overstate that.

Speaker 7 (18:05):
Listen, I've known Bob Fletcher for a long time, and
I mean know him, know him, but professionally and most
things that he agrees with, I'm on the other side
of that ledger And that's no in front to him that.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
We're just two different people.

Speaker 7 (18:21):
However, there have been things where we were like minded,
and we've testified together at the State House in front
of the Public Safety Committee and all those things, all
those things being said, what the hell do these people
want him to say? What I read was, I am

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not a paraphrasing him. He's not generalizing and saying that
all Somali's are in gangs number one, number two.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
He's saying the.

Speaker 7 (18:53):
Most important thing that if we recognize there's a problem
or a pattern, we need to go about solving it,
whether that is with prevention, intervention, all of the above.
But I don't understand what was wrong with his phrasing
with people, except that I know from whence it comes,
and I know what their agendas are.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
I can be honest with you, I would have phrased.

Speaker 7 (19:18):
My phrasing would have been pretty same, if not exactly,
because he's letting you know, and let us remind folks
who may not have been here and may not be
old enough to remember you are you were? Do you
remember how long former chief Tony Bowser from the MPD
denied that there was gang problems or activities going on

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in Minneapolis in the late eighties while it was proliferating.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Great point, okay, and so this.

Speaker 7 (19:48):
Apparently they've identified some patterns there. So the only question
if they have any the advocacy groups would be all right,
give us, give us some more intel and some more detail.
Oh wait, he provided that also, So they need to
shut up. That's that's what they need to do, because

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these kinds of interventions get in the way of real
progress because they are stealing the narrative.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
And I don't like that, because we get.

Speaker 7 (20:21):
Away from actually being able to come together and find solutions.
And that's been done so it's not a new concept,
but this kind of nonsense right here.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I don't like CARE.

Speaker 7 (20:32):
I don't like what they represent, and that is based
on my experience, professional experience, and the things that we
went through in Saint Cloud.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
In a wonderful community, and CARE.

Speaker 7 (20:44):
Was always throwing a monkey wrench into Give me an example.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Of why you've had such difficulty with is mainly is
it their public pronouncements in relation to stories? What?

Speaker 2 (20:57):
What do you?

Speaker 5 (20:58):
What?

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Do you give me a couple of want I believe that,
I believe that.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
They're they're there.

Speaker 7 (21:09):
It's more important for them to look like they're advocating,
if that makes any sense to you. And I have
examples when we had them all stabbing nineteen and we
were we were having our regular press briefings, and they
wanted to be part of.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
It because the the.

Speaker 7 (21:33):
The stabber was Somali and we we didn't see any
need for that. We we were not in the business
of grand standing. And and so I politely said, I
don't think so, there's no need for you to be
up here.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
We are not sending these messages.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
Our community is strong, and it is strengthened, and it
is together and it will stay together without this nonsense. Well,
they went and had their own press conference. I didn't care,
and they had it in the lobby of the police department. Again,
it's a public space rights. Those kinds of tactics when
the other advocacy groups were asking us, how can we

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help how can we help our community heal?

Speaker 3 (22:14):
So for you it comes off sometimes as performance, not
sometimes all the time in.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
Your I have other examples, Dan, but that we don't
have that much time.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, all right, let's get a break in early. I
want to get to a little bit more about this story.
We're gonna get to a couple others as well, and
we'll certainly take reaction. Brat Shawn Brian Kaffin text line
is open at six four six eight six because there's
a lot more meat on the bone regarding this story,
I think, and some of the other things. I didn't
see the stream, but I have seen several news accounts

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of it in which it appears to me there is
an attempt to flesh this story out beyond the sensational,
like you say, where there is an attempt by a
couple of others who are part of this live stream
within working in his department, in which I think there's
a series. It looks to me like a fairly earnest
effort to say, we're trying to get us some stuff.

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That's all we're trying to do here and even make
maybe some people aware or some things that they're not
aware of. Former Saint Cloud Police Sheet Blair Anderson kind enough.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
To join us in studio. Will continue with him in
just a minute.

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Speaker 2 (23:49):
Blair Anderson is in studio with us.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Former police chief Saint Cloud, Minnesota and how many other agencies?
If we're doing the Blair Anderson bio, how many other
agencies did you work with or in the metro?

Speaker 7 (24:05):
I started as an intern the Dakota County Sheriff's Office
and wound up working there for eighteen years. When I
left there, I was a commander number three on the
ORG chart for people that don't know Sheriff's office, that
means lingo. And then I left there and went to
Carver County and I was the chief deputy there for

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eighteen months before I got the chief job in Saint
Cloud's Cloud.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
So three all together, two in the metro and got.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
To know a lot of people in the met you
know close by here too, right over the years, that's
for sure, absolutely all right. So we're talking about the
Ramsey County Sheriff Bob Fletcher. The video that he was
part of his Live on Patrol stream as an example.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Well, here's what.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Fletcher said that he has sent his investigators into the
Somali community to talk to parents, many of whom don't
know their child is even in gang. There's a quote
here from Benjamin Sidel, who's an investigator with the office.
Here at the Sheriff's office, we put on some classes
for Somali American families where we speak with mothers, fathers,
faith leaders about the dangers of gangs, what to look

(25:15):
out for. Then there was another investigator who said, we
need the community to be aware of what's going on. Right,
we need the faith leaders, right, we need the schools, right,
this is the name here is John Jama Shi n
Em a framman of Mangle the pronunciation of both names,
who I think works in this particular area. The Sheriff's

(25:35):
office also reaching out smally influencers to spread the word,
and they are in the beginning stages of organizing a
community wide meeting on July twenty one in Arden Hills.
I bring all that up to say that that sounds
as if the kinds of specifics that you could relate
to to say these are individuals not necessarily trying to

(25:56):
stereotype or even to DEMONI so much as to say,
we're trying to get down into this story, reach deep
down and meet with individuals within the community to see
how can we get to a better place?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
How much do you know?

Speaker 3 (26:12):
How much where can we help to communicate? I don't
know how any of that could be considered pernicious or.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Bad, because it can't. That's textbook.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
That's how we have to do things in a contemporary
society with respect to policing and community engagement. Dan, my
head is swimming over here because we have to be
missing something. These are all the things that you would
expect or for the naysayers out there These are the

(26:45):
questions they would be asking had.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
They not done any of these things.

Speaker 7 (26:49):
And so that's why they can kick rocks, because they
will never be in agreement with anything you do. But
based on this, Dan, I don't find any fault with
any of that.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
That's how it shouldn't be done.

Speaker 7 (27:03):
That's how you resolve problems and build relationships within time.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
You can speak to this far more eloquently than I.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I like to believe that within any community.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Whatever, whether whether you're bringing it down by ethnic group
or whatever, that individuals who believe they want to make
sure that various groups are protected would say, well, if
some of them or a surprising number of them are
being harmed or it, because in some cases I assume

(27:35):
some of these individuals are victims, you'd say, well, we
want to invest When when when I read the quote
from the city council member about some val youth deserve investment, dignity,
opportunity and respect, I doubt that you disagree with any
of that. But also some of the concerns should be
if they are either in harm's way or they are

(27:58):
participating in things that are putting other people in and
people in harm's way, I want to get to that too.
I want to because that's to me, how you get
to dignity, how you get to investment, how you get
to respect is you want to be. I would think
protective of those individuals who are falling prey to this culture.

Speaker 7 (28:19):
Correct correct in the gang culture, and anything less than
what you described Dan his dere election of duty on
our part, Yes, And I don't remember Sheriff Fletcher saying
that those young people didn't deserve any of those things,
you know what I mean. And so I don't like
when they put those kinds of things in the atmosphere.
But at the end of the day, I don't know

(28:43):
what else he's supposed to do except ma Linger, and
we see what happens when we do that. He is
being as proactive as possible the way this reads, and
based on the intel and the information that he shared
with us. And so again my question to those people
would be a simple one, what the hell else do

(29:05):
you want him to do?

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (29:07):
Not to mention Dad, he's keeping you all in the
loop because he's being transparent. I mean, these are all
of the things that we heard after George Floyd and
so many other incidents across the country.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Right. That was the hue and cry.

Speaker 7 (29:23):
Where's the transparency, Dan, He's taking all the boxes here, man.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah, so I'm looking at another story. This is a
castp dot com version. The Sheriff's officer investigators connected more
than one hundred shootings and many homicides of the last
two years whose Somali gangs. Five Eyewitness News confirmed there
are three hundred members in the twelve Somali gangs that.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
They are investigating. We have to stop this.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
We may not get to all of them, but we
can get to some of them. That is a guy
named Andre Robinson, who was once in a gang but
is now a community service officer with the agency.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
He made it, I thought pretty clear.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Try to make it clear that this is a obviously
this is a small number. And again there's a video
I haven't even seen it, but I've heard about it
in which our president. It's a video I think of
like kindergarten kids, private school kids, Muslim kids, and he's
calling them out because of the the what the girls

(30:24):
are wearing in their hit, you know, the burkas, a
whole bit, And that's the kind of see I think
that's the kind of nonsense that gets people's radar up
about anything that's laid out, including what the sheriff did
here and so there. I think that it becomes easier
for people to conflate the two. And we've talked about
this how many times in the show. Chief we can

(30:46):
do several things at once. It's not difficult for me
to call out what the President said as being heinous, destructive,
ridiculous and still say, well, but there might be a
little problem over here that we can't be afraid because
of what people like the President might do with it
to call out because in the end, it's the people

(31:06):
is You've told me many times in many of these
communities who lose. If it's just ignored or if it's no,
we're not could call it out because bad people are
going to use it to their own evil ends to
continue stereotyping.

Speaker 7 (31:20):
And that's a great segue for what I was going
to say, Dan, thank you, because you mentioned the victims.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
And rarely.

Speaker 7 (31:29):
When these advocacy groups, well I call them poverty pimps.
But when they are putting out these messages like the
one that I believe it was care in their response
to sharing Fletcher, Yes, they don't mention the victims then
I didn't see anything in that representative comments about victims.

(31:53):
And I can tell you I've spoken with enough of
them who are ecstatic at the effort when we identify
a problem, because it's going to happen more than likely
where they are.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Particularly when you start talking about ethnic groups. Why are
we afraid to talk about stuff like this? Right?

Speaker 7 (32:12):
Especially immigrant groups. They live in clusters. That's okay, that's
all right where they want to.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
It happens over and over again in history.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
It has all the Spaniards in my family and those
around in Gary, Indiana, who came for the steel mill jobs.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
That's exactly what they did.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Now, eventually that changed as families grow out.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
And so forth, but they clustered.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
They had their own Spanish society, for God's sake, a
big building we'd all go to for social events two
or three nights a week.

Speaker 7 (32:44):
And I set all that to say Dan that do
you think there wasn't a problem or two in any
of these other communities that had to be ferreted out
and dealt with? Because if you do, your delusion on
anybody thinks that, And so we have to stop being afraid.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Because of the ethnicity of it. If it's an issue.
It's an issue that needs to be.

Speaker 7 (33:05):
Addressed correct because all of us are affected by it.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
I want to read a text has come in from
the five oh seven area code.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
And a lot.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
I will ask you what your reaction to this is
or what you think might be wrong with this reaction
to our conversation.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Funny to listen to the silence of Dan.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Brought him on, meaning you the Chief, thinking he would
go fully against this, and Dan is lost just trying
to come up with anything funny to listen to. Now
you've gotten to know me pretty well. You've never really
heard of me to be silent. Do you think that
I'm somehow taken aback by your position on this, or

(33:51):
I'm somehow bothered by it, or somehow feel threatened by it?
How it's amazing, Chief, as I've learned over the years
speaking of stereotyping, that the way people to decide for you.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
How I must be.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Reeling about much of your commentary today, even though I
am the individual who brought you on today and happily
bring you on over and over again.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
What world are we living in? Is this the radio
version of punk? Is asking Kutcher. Maybe it's a bit
it has to be. Maybe it's a bit people people
hear what they hear what they want to hear. Yeah,
it's they absolutely hear what they want to hear. It's
it's a little bit scary.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Bratchean Brian Kavan text and has open six four six
eighty six. I'll ask this question. You may not have
the answer to it. What is the Henivan County Sheriff's
office saying?

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Have they do?

Speaker 3 (34:41):
We know whether they have responded, whether they agree, whether
they've taken a position, or do we I have not heard.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Have you do? I know? Do you happen to know?

Speaker 7 (34:50):
No, I'm retired, dad, I don't I get my news
like like other civilians. I mean I know what's going
on sometimes, right, I have not yeah, anything from sheriff
with about this.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
I want to.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Present support what the Ramsey County Sheriff said. We need
to start calling this out as an actual issue. If
they would have called things out with the fraud and
not been afraid of people calling them racist or afraid
to actually call it the issue that's happening. Well, we
have talked about that a lot with you, with your
guy Andy Lueger, who I know you know well and
have great respect for that. There's no question part of

(35:23):
the impediment to getting to a lot of the fraud
issue was the issue of race was manipulated.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
You know this.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
We've talked about this before and it was okay, you
can go down this road and proof you can say
you're not you're not gonna let us continue with our business.
But be ready because we're going to have a press
conference and we're going to call your butts out for
being racist.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
On this thing. And it's been pretty much confirmed that
that fear left.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
I guess people who don't have the strong enough leadership
to say, our job is to call out what we see.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
We don't care who's doing it. That's our job.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
And that is a subject you and I have explored
forever on this show and you and you, obviously, because
of your position and your background, have so much more
credibility on it than I ever could.

Speaker 7 (36:12):
And unfortunately, Dan, it's it's nothing new. It's funny that
you bring that up. I have a quick story, that's
what cops do pertaining to this. Many winters ago, when
I was a fraud detective, I had a case and
it involved a family from Iraq and it was a
huge housing fraud case. It was a seven figure housing

(36:35):
fraud case. The case got so big that Hudds sent
me an investigator from Washington, d C.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
And it involved an Iraqi.

Speaker 7 (36:45):
Family and what they were doing they were killing social
services in the county with housing assistants and medical assistants
and then subleasing the places and electing cash and.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
All the things. So seven figures.

Speaker 7 (36:57):
My point is, at the end of that case, when
we presented it to the prosecuting attorney and they were
going they did go forward because those folks were prosecuted.
Guess where we got the most pushback from people in
social service agencies. And by the way, this was right
during nine to eleven, right after, and those were the

(37:20):
least cooperative people, and we all worked for the same county.
And so I'm not calling out everybody that was social
services that I'm recognizing a pattern here in general.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
If that makes any sense.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
It does based on your own experience, I might add,
I want to try to begin to explore another subject
that's complicated and probably dangerous to get into, but we
got some time to do it, and it was a
lengthy I don't even call it a tweet because it
ended up almost being like the length of a column

(37:53):
regarding a story that goes back to I think early June.
This is out of McKinney, Texas. A Texas teenager who
fatally stabbed a seventeen year old track athlete from a
rival team during a competition was convicted of murder in
a trial that drew attention far beyond as this is

(38:14):
a PBS piece, beyond the Dallas suburb where the two
students attended different high schools. A jury rejected Carmelo Anthony's
claims of self defense during a confrontation with Austin Metcalf
in stadium bleachers last year. Most people who testified were
students who described a heated exchange over Anthony's refusal on

(38:35):
a rainy spring day to leave a tent that belonged
to Metcalft's team, and eventually he gets I think, Anthony
gets pushed and his response is to stab the victim.
Anthony is black, Metcalf was white. There was at the
time of the story some reaction that there were racial

(38:58):
implications to this case, that the individual responsible for the
stabbing was railroaded, and that this is still another yet
another example of.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Separate but not equal.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Systems when it comes to adjudication or it comes to
prosecuting individuals. And I want to get to a couple
of things. This was John mcwarter attempted to write about.
I'll use a lot of history to get to what
he thinks is the precedent that. Well, here's the way

(39:35):
I would put it. I'll read you a couple parts,
and then I want to get your reaction to it,
because I know you've thought about it a little bit.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
There's no reason to support that this is due Well,
let me back up.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
The question is why Anthony thought being pushed justified stick
sinking a knife into Metcalf's body. The answer, he writes,
is the culture of disrespect in young blackmail culture, documented
by by many, including black sociologists. His calculus was, if
even touches me, I am disrespected and will respond in
destructive kind. The idea is that being distmerits what we

(40:12):
might phrase as cutting someone a new one. There is
no reason to suppose that this is due to black
people having some inborn propensity to violence.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
The black economist Thomassel.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Has traced the disrespect culture to the whites from the
Celtic fringe. He goes way back, an area comprising parts
of northern England, Scotland.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
And Ulster County.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
He says, eventually those individuals migrated to the south, some
of them established plantations or worked on them as indentured servants.
Black people often enslaved worked alongside, and that this became,
according to this theory, part of the culture. The step
is short between that he put his hands on me

(40:51):
and I stabbed him. It's not hard to see the
parallel between the cracker culture and the sociologist Elijah Anderson's
study of late twentieth century black culture of the streets.
So I don't think nationally this was presented as a
story that everybody thought was race related. But there were
a number of people who said, my kid or this

(41:12):
kid did not get justice. It was not This sentencing
is not fair, this conviction is not fair, et cetera.
So what did you make of it, and what do
you make of it? And what are the larger lessons
that we might spend some time on as a result
of it.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Well, well, first of all, it's a horrible story.

Speaker 7 (41:34):
But anybody that grew up in the hood or any
place similar, we don't need a room full of PhDs
to describe what you just read in terms of what
growing up in that kind of an environment can do
to a person. And those are just the facts.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
That's probably what I want to talk about it.

Speaker 7 (41:57):
I mean, I grew up next to folks who wound
up being murderers and pemps and drug dealers and spending
their lives in prison if they weren't murdered.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
And so unfortunately, when the.

Speaker 7 (42:12):
Streets raise you, or or you're poorly raised in your home,
because you know, I'm always coming back to that one, well,
we'll rip my deceased parents. So let me see you
try and do that, because I think I turned out okay,
But it starts at home. I'm sorry, as corny as

(42:36):
that is. And the older I get, the more sense
it makes to me. And so maybe we have to
explain it this way for the younger generation. And I
mean that no affront to them, just like things had
to be explained to us. But but Dan, it's still
no excuse for it. But it's it's sad that it
is still happening all these years later. Dan, when I

(42:59):
was thirteen, four teen years old, dodging bullets to get
to school, man, I thought by the time I was
sixty that we would have figured some of these things out,
but we haven't. And what exacerbates it is when everybody
wants some FaceTime every everybody.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
When when Uncle Ben wants to get up in front
of the podium.

Speaker 8 (43:22):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (43:23):
And a fine attorney, but I think he stopped being
a lawyer a long time ago, in my opinion, based
on what I've seen.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
From from my professional platform. Dan, and so, how do
we get to the bottom of that? Boy? What a
what another great segue? Well, let's leave.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Let me get one more break in because I think
where you're leading there was an interesting uh observation that
resonated with you in this discussion coming from in this case,
I think it was Jamel Hill and we're so we'll
get into all that and we'll let you continue to
raise your point as well former a Saint claud Pelishi
Blair Anderson on some very complicated issues today.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
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Speaker 3 (44:29):
One guy writes, good afternoon, Dan. If the chief ran
for office as an independent, I would stop door to
door or stump door to door for this man, maybe both.
Do you want to make any announcements today? Do you
want to throw your hat into the political arena?

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (44:44):
My announcement is my tea time for tomorrow, I Dan.
I'd like to think that's very kind. It's very kind
of your listener to say that, and I mean that,
But I'd like to think I'm smart enough man not
to do that. Uh, and just try and continue and
contribute in the ways.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
That I have.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
You want to maintain your sanity, is what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
See Yeah, Jamel Hill, we need to be having conversations
with our young black boys about emotional regulation and decision
making and discernment and wisdom.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
End quote.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Then it's back to the writer of this piece. Black
women often give their boys the talk about obeying what
comps demand, but that talk needs to come with a
second one.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
There needs to be the talks.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Young black men need to be told not to fall
for the idea that being dissed justifies physical violence. That
and not the persistence of racism is what Carmelo Anthony's
fate should teach us.

Speaker 7 (45:43):
What do you make of that agreed one hundred percent?
And that should be repetitious. Right again, no matter what
environment you live, those should be things that are fundamental.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
In your upbringing as far as I'm concerned, because they
were in mind. So that's all I know. And it
looks like it worked.

Speaker 7 (46:07):
And so I think we get too far Afiel right
when we start politicizing things like this. It's nothing new. Unfortunately,
it's happened many times over.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
But we we have to in this. I was going
to finish Dan before the The linkage is very simple.

Speaker 7 (46:30):
If we believe the scholars and the practitioners and we
are all saying the same thing. It's just that the
scholars are saying it in a little more lengthy manner.
They're breaking it down for us. God bless them. If
we believe. I want to believe that we are all
telling you guys, this is what's going on, and it
is based on this, It's based on patterns, it's based

(46:51):
on intel. Perhaps what Sheriff Fletcher is doing may one
day prevent one of these young men from killing one
of our loved ones or us.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
And so.

Speaker 7 (47:04):
I got no time for the naysayers on this one. Dan,
They're wrong on this one. If they want to go
after Sheriff Fletcher for how he did it, I don't
know how he could have done it any better.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Where my heart broke when I watched reaction to on
the Carmelo Anthony story from individuals in the community. It
was basically looking into the camera and saying, how can
I tell my black child that he has a chance
when this is considered justice? And there certainly have been cases,

(47:41):
and some of them we've talked about where that question
I think would resonate and make some sense. But what
occurred to me was, if all of your energy or
emphasis in this case, in which there's no question about
what took place whatsoever, is that as opposed to the
act of violence that.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Led to the death of an individual. It makes me
feel like we.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
Have no hope.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
If that's where that's the message you're gonna convey to
others around you in the community, We're in trouble, Ohio.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Before we're in big trouble.

Speaker 7 (48:15):
And I can tell you how my mother would have
answered that that same question, right, how do we tell
our young black men that they have a chance.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
If there's no no justice?

Speaker 7 (48:27):
However they put it, my mother's answer would have been succinct,
don't take a knife to attract me.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Oh, they're gonna excoriate me for that one, but I
don't care that. That's what my mom.

Speaker 7 (48:45):
That's how she would have broken it down, for us
to stay out of trouble and stay out of harm's
way and not find yourself on trial for murdering somebody,
because that would have been her first question, always practical,
always Losco, what the hell you doing with a knife
that attracted me?

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Oh? A? And two? Why are you in their ten?
In their area? I mean what? So, So there's some
more questions for me.

Speaker 7 (49:09):
That need to be answered, Dan, I don't know how
old this story was when we finally began to hear
about it, because it's summertime.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Man, I've been outside, yes, race, yes, and so is
this is that a newer story?

Speaker 7 (49:22):
I mean it's some months old now, but I mean
when it actually happened, I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah, it was a well the trial was in June.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Yeah, obviously, I think the case goes back, there was
more than just one guy that was in the fight
with Anthonys three on one and he got thirty five years.
Then it's another kid in the same stage, David, the
guy who got ten years that you now, we can,
I guess have a discussion about sentences and what went
into what mitigated one for the other. I don't know

(49:50):
about that. But for me, like I said, what I
came out of it was, man, you're you're you're you're
conveying the wrong message. You know, the emotion sound good,
and there might be there certainly have been cases where
this where it might apply where you go, well, this
doesn't really look like justice was done. But if you're

(50:11):
not conversing with your kids about the stuff we're talking
about here, black or white doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Any group, any race that then that's my feeling is
almost like, well, history is going to repeat itself.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
You're conveying a message that gets away from the act
of violence that put that individual in the position where
he had a chance to be put away.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Well, however long that is. We talked about that at
the break too, right. People like to conflate things.

Speaker 7 (50:40):
Yes, yes, the whole world knows, we know that sentences
are disproportionate in this country for people of color, particularly
men of color. Yes, we know that volumes have been
written on that, and it has been studied and will
continue to be But at the same time, Dan, to
your point, how are well here?

Speaker 2 (51:04):
I like to put it this way.

Speaker 7 (51:05):
When people say, well, people aren't listening people, they're really
not paying attention, you know what, I say, Yes they are.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
What are you saying to them? Right exactly? And the
examples that we are getting.

Speaker 7 (51:14):
From these community members and moms, and how do I
have this conversation with my son? They're conflating two things
in my opintampers and the whole the sentencing issue.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
We can debate that.

Speaker 7 (51:27):
Forever, but it is a separate discussion, and it gets
us off the topic of how did we get here
to you getting shoved and pulling out a knife and
stabbing somebody when you were somewhere you weren't supposed to be. See,
then we got to chap it all the way down.
We do, because that again, that's how I was raised.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
What were you doing there?

Speaker 7 (51:49):
You were not supposed to be there, and so if
you weren't there, this would not have happened or if
you would have just simply left the area, whether you
bumped shoulders with somebody or not. And Dan, trust me,
I know, I know people who have been killed and
have killed were just on my shoes. So I get it,

(52:13):
which is why I go to the basics. What do
you got a knife for that attract me? And why
are you somewhere else with the knife? I mean, you're
come pounding the issues before you even arrive.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
And then we go from there.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Let's we spin our wheel. That's true, Let's get one
more break in. We got a few minutes to wrap
things up. I got a couple of garden related texts
that you might enjoy, and we'll wrap things up. The
former Saint Clau Policie Blair Anderson in studio with us.
Will we'll let you know what you missed earlier in
the show as well.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
One week we wrap things Bump.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
It's the Bumper to Bumper Show, Rush.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Crosh by America, Pressure Doctor.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Dan's inbox today Great letters offered up between four thirty
and five. We did talk a lot about PA's conversation
with Tom Pohlad today off the cuff. That was a
very entertaining and maybe even more controversial than pa intended,
although I loved the snark, but that's just me, even
if it was unintended snark. A great hour with the
former Saint Claubelici, Blair Anderson. If you missed it, podcast

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it later Tomorrow's Friday. I'm assuming Lavelle. I don't know
if we're going to have Ben Gesling, but we'll have
a good program again tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
A couple of texts to wrap it up, Chief, this
is my favorite.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
I used to live across the street from Blair, and
I can confirm he takes great care of his grass
and flowers.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
That's from Taylor Comstock. Do you know that name? Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Yeah, absolutely, vouching for your absolutility to put a great
yard together, good flop, the whole bit.

Speaker 7 (53:42):
Absolutely. They just sold last year and moved. All the
kids are grown, and Taylor's one of the one of
the suns.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
I'm so glad you have. Chief. Anderson's a breath on.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
It's a breath of fresh air, common sensus lacking in
today's culture, and he brings the discussion back to simple terms.
Before I get to the last text, real quick, and
it's important I've made this point before I think you
have too. What often is left out of this discussion
is the individuals that you're trying to protect sometimes come
from the very communities that these groups say they're trying

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to protect. They are often victims. That's the piece of
this I've never understood you and forgotten.

Speaker 7 (54:21):
Don't don't leave that part out forgotten, because they're the
ones that are least able to get out of those
state points.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
And they become prey. Yeah, that's no way for anyone
to live.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
On DAN, regardless of political leanings. When you the Chief
and Andy Luger are on, it is must listen radio.
Thank you for these long needed open discussions. I know
you'll take you're a big Andy guy, you'll take that
as a compliment.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Absolutely love Andy Luger speaking of dealing with gangs.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
That's what he attempted to do correct and pretty successfully
when Andy Lueger was the US Attorney.

Speaker 7 (54:55):
If you were a fell in, caught with the pistol,
or involved in ganged activity or any weapon, any firearm,
you went to prison, period, end of discussion.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
And so we are like minded. We don't have sense
of humor about that. Now. That's that's that's for sure.
Blake Moore, What do we have coming up? Tonight's fan
and the.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Man in the air, I'm air and then Dan Patrick.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Oh, speaking of Dan Patrick, you'll be able to hear.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
We played the conversation that got a little uncomfortable between
the head coach, Kevin O'Connell of the Vikings and Dan Patrick,
where Patrick was doing a show from I can't remember
the event. It's a golf event, but I can't remember
where it is. And Law, that's it Lake Tahawan, thank

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you for rymy chief. And basically Patrick calls koc on
the word salad that we mock him for all of
the time, and the head coach did not love it.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Let's put that way, but it's good entertainment.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
And so that was on Dan Patrick's show that we'll
play back tonight, as we usually do via dedication later
this evening, but we played back about a four minute
section of it during the during the program. Are you
on the Kyler Murray bandwagon? I don't remember, Well, you're
you're a Lions guy, aren't you?

Speaker 2 (56:09):
So it doesn't matter quite worried right now window may
have closed, Dan, You don't sound that worried. I'm worried, seriously, yes,
you think Kyler might be the goods? No, I'm talking
about my life all the Lions. Okay, I see, So
Tyler is going to do well the Lions back? Are
they rebounding from? Like? Because last year was kind of
a disappointment. That's what I'm worried about. That's what I mean.

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They might not rebound. Yeah, that window dance? Why the
NFC all the way and we head home Field and
then gods Boat Race?

Speaker 7 (56:39):
But Dan, why why are you working?

Speaker 3 (56:43):
This is proof Vikings fans will feel like they're the
only ones that have phobias about their teams. That's false
that other teams, including fans of Detroit Lions, have many
It has much of that same paranoia that correct, really.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Especially a Detroit Lions fan. Yeah, yeah, that's we haven't
won since the war been a long time. That's right. Great.
I don't know about you. There you goes a packer guy.
He feels great about his situation. We'll see.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
I'm proven anything to me yet, Well, what did you
do in the playoffs last year?

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Blew it to your squad? That's right? Did you? Oh? Yeah,
I forgot about that? Yeah? Or did I? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (57:16):
I might not?

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Probably not so the rest of the so you'll you'll
come to see a state fair. Absolutely, got that far off.
Now it's scarce, it's not. And then and I hope
to be moderately busy. Bye bye, Dick.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Yeah, it's time for me to hit play on the
next phase. Yeah, we're going to be doing.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
That's and then no political announcements, you don't think at
this point.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
No, just just my website. Man, get right now.

Speaker 9 (57:41):
You got about a minute and a half. I forgot
about this coach. Perfect, perfect, So this is the next phase.
Thank you so much for the time and space. It's
called a BR consulting. A BR is an acronym for
achieved better results. I couldn't buy that domain interestingly enough,
and I'll talk fast, but before I get to that,
you have to just google my name William Blair Anderson

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dot com.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Okay, perfect, Okay.

Speaker 7 (58:04):
The reason and what it is is I am going
to start sharing through training. Whether it's there's four pillars leadership,
community engagement, there's motivational, and then there's organizational leadership, and.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Management, and you get to pick.

Speaker 7 (58:18):
So there's just like a menu and whichever one you
will do wish your needs well, whatever fits their needs.
I will come and we talk about the structure and
how they want it at any rate. I didn't know
I couldn't buy domains that one, because people buy domains
as thirty five hundred dollars for ABR cost me ten
dollars to buy my name.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Guess which one I picked.

Speaker 7 (58:41):
So William Blair Anderson dot com, thank you, Dan, and
I just want to continue to share this information and
do motivational talks and help with these kinds of conundrums
here that are created by people in your experience.