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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Five sports sawsers of the day.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now it's time for Dan Barrero's Top five at five,
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Speaker 5 (00:13):
Little late on the Top five at five. It's turning
today into the five to twenty Sports Fix because we
had Alec Lewis over the top of.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
The five o'clock our guards. He is out today is.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Expected, I think and hope back on tomorrow's broadcast. Brett
Blake Moore is here for a mini Top five at five.
Is the ABYSS in effect? Is there not that much
to get to do? You have a couple of good nuggets? Interesting,
I've got a couple things.
Speaker 6 (00:39):
It feels like the abys is an effect because the
World Cup.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
This is the first day without a World Cup.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
Game in like three weeks good point, So it feels
like it's just barantee.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I absolutely well.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
There were some days for a while where there were
like several games, right, and then I got used to
at least two, right, how many we have yesterday?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Was it two or three?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We had two?
Speaker 5 (01:03):
One in the late afternoon, great and then one at night.
I was very much looking forward to that. Our next
matches tomorrow, correct, that is correct? France and Morocco at
three tomorrow. You give Morocco any chance?
Speaker 6 (01:15):
I mean, I think it will be close. I think
it can be a two to one game, legit, right, Yeah,
they're a good team. I mean, France is just the
class of the world.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, they are.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
So Friday La Roja Spain and Belgium.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
What time is that game? That's two o'clock, so we'll
get the second half, right, I'm distracted like you Sunday morning.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Think about it. Will your hoodie be in in time?
Speaker 5 (01:37):
I don't think so. I tried to get expedited shipping
and I could. It's a nice looking hoodie. It's it's
actually a little busier than most of the hoodies I
prefer prefer.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And it's that black.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Most of my hoodies are black or blue dark blue,
but this one was just too.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Compelling for me.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
They have not yet, They've not what is the term
conceited a goal yet? Is that what we say in soccer?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
They have not conceded a goal. Yeah, that's correct, which
is pretty remarkable, is it not? I mean, there, I
mean for the.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Proof that sometimes the best offense is a good defense.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
There's several Lebron stories, and unfortunately neither one of them
include the Minnesota Timberwolves. What I saw one to go
back to your opening, the opening se this show, Steph
Curry said today, I'd say more so I'm interested in
just to play more golf with the I saw that
Steph Curry unbelievable golfer. Watch he is really good. And
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then Bob Myers familiar with him.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, now running the Sixers right.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Correct, Well, he's basically made his sales pitch, uh to
Rich Paul, basically saying why he should go to Philly.
So everyone's getting in and we heard from Johnny last
week the Wolves are ramping up. They better start ramping
up even more. It looks like everyone's circling. He ain't
coming here. What I wanted to find was, let me
(03:01):
see if I can get it via X because I
think I'm not mistaken. Sham's latest report narrows it to three.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Let me say if I can find it. Unless it was
that was.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
A that was a fake. Uh fake, you know that
happens sometimes. I could have sworn I'm scrolling down. Was
it yesterday?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
No? Maybe I maybe I did make it up.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
I thought I had read a belief that it's basically
it's likely down to three teams Miami Cleveland. No, four
teams Miami Cleveland, Golden State, and Philly. He had Philly
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in there. Who you just mentioned Myers. Uh, we're not
gonna he ain't come here.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
It's it's it's it's a nice dream. It was fun.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
It's harmless to I guess participate, but it's it's not
not happening here.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
I respected trying to reverse jinxits that he lands here.
I respect that what was your favorite? You're probably not
what was your favorite? Justin Verlander moment, he is announced
that he's retiring three Cy Young's two World Series an
MVP award. What says in the ESPN article an undoubtedly
Hall of Fame career.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I think that would be correct. He's forty three years old,
he said.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
I never wanted to retire because of a milestone, a number,
or a date on a calendar. I wanted the game
to tell me when it was time. Over the last
several months, I've realized the time has come. What was
your favorite justin Verlander moment.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
He's had a bunch of them. Man, he was what
a horse of a pitcher for sure.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
How old is he? Did you say? I did? He
is forty three? Forty three years old.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Man's that's a pretty good run.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Can he lit us up a few times? I can't find.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
The the tweet I'm looking for here. I know what
it is, but ill for the shams bit. Yeah, for
the shams bit. I did notice? Did you see? Delo
is on the move again? So there's this massive sixteen
trade that people have talked about that involves like a
million teams, right and Dlo is in the middle of it,
(05:17):
traded I think from the Wizards to the Memphis Grizzlies.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I can't imagine.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
A better place for him to be than the Grizzlies,
a screwed up organization at this point that is basically
starting over. So I'm guessing it's money. You know that
he just represents the contract and money. But that's we
have to get. I think research how many different teams
Dilo has now been on and if he's gonna eventually
set the record and be moved around more than any
(05:47):
other significant player. At one point, he was a highly
regarded player once upon a time. I can't believe there's
been very many players of his ilk who has been
traded as often as he has. There's a message there,
I would say to de Lo fans if there are
any left.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Lastly, I saw this article that made me chuckle. Colorado
quarterback Julian Lewis and believes how you say it was
talking at Big twelve media days and he said, what's
the biggest or he asked what was the biggest difference
between last year and this year? And he said, and
obviously Deon Sanders was his coach last year, my play,
(06:24):
I'm actually looking at defenses now.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Last year we wasn't really looking at defense as much,
just kind of high school free balling, just out there
playing football. But it's a lot bigger than that now,
so it should be fun.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Wow. That's quite an indictment on the coaches, is it not.
And I don't I don't know how you get away
with that.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Yeah, I don't either. That's that's that's that's that's juicy.
I was unaware of that. The other NBA nugget Worth
mentioning there were people again delusional in this town, thinking well,
maybe Achima could like slip through the cracks the former
Laker and end up here he could be our answer
in the front court. There was never a chance in
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hell that they had the kind of money necessary to
bring him here, and I think he ends up going
crosstown from the Lakers to the Clippers. I want to say,
it's a two year deal, fourteen million bucks. You gotta
I know you want it bad. I know we got
a big hole in the front court, but that was
never even close to being a realistic option, as again
(07:27):
we were finding out. Don't blame me for this observation. Okay,
I didn't say it. I quoted it in my most
recent tweet to the Deadhead community. The dead are the
Alman Brothers without the talent. Don't blame me. Don't shoot
the messenger. You know what, I know I got the
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dead Headers when their response is.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You're over your skis on this one, Dan, this is
that's when you know you got them here your.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Way out there this time. Dan, don't just you don't
want to make a fool of yourself. That's when you
know you got them where the card is. You're just
too stupid to understand the talent of the group and
the makeup of the group.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
You're over your skis.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
I love that one that's that means, as somebody once said,
mission accomplished. I'm going to come back with the nickname
that was I was reminded of by an enterprising Texter.
I can't believe, when we're talking about local, you know,
athlete nicknames over the decades.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
That I forgot this one.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
This guy was one of my favorites and a tremendous
contributor to many very successful Minnesota Twins teams. We'll get
to that, we'll prepare for special k Pat Kessler, and
you know what else. We have a nugget from Dan
Minnesota about nicknames when once upon a time, the members
(09:02):
of the Minnesota Vikings Front four.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
The vaunted Front four.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Of the old days, rejected a nickname that a lot
of people grew up with believing was one of the
best I guess you could say position nicknames in the
history of Minnesota Vikings football. So it gets all of
that and some special case stuff on the politics when
we returned Bumford. I wish the American media would take
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a great look at the views that the people in
conference and find out are they pro.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
All America or anti America Pat Kessler, because people have
got to know whether or not.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Their presidents are croup, but I'm not.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
I can't trust Still bare Essler teared down this walk.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I did nothing wrong at the Minneapolis.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Airport, Senator or no, Jack Kenneth Kissler.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
And now to help Dan break down all the tough
questions in politics.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's our own Kssler political walk.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I feel like a supermodel, except like times ten, it's
Channel fours Backussler with Dan Morero on the fan.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And now it's time for Ode to a dead guys
twice in the same day.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
And this is late breaking news that I was unaware
of until an intrepid listener alerted me via x. One
of the columnist heavyweights in the Twin Cities of Minneapolis
and Saint Paul Doug Grow has passed away at the
age of seventy.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Eight years old.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Grow was first a sports columnist at the Star Tribune
and when he got the bump to be the so
called city side columnist metro columnist, that's when I got
the call. That's exactly what allowed me to get here to,
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you know, apply for the.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Sports editor not know. I did not know that, And
I will tell you that.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
He was extremely generous in that regard with his time
with me and supportive the whole bit. He worked i
think in the market for twenty seven years. I'm looking
at the Star Tobune story that lays all of this out.
And he also did a lot of reporting, but I
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think probably because the metro side stuff was the stuff
he did most recently. That's where most people who are
you know or were around then are old enough.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
To remember reading him.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
I'm sure you included probably associated him more with that
than the sports side of it. He his hometown was Watertown,
South Dakota. He apparently delivered the Minneapolis Tribune in his
hometown back in the day. Went to school at the
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Universe Journalism School the University of Missouri, worked at newspapers
in Boonville, Missouri, Milwaukee, and Saint Louis before getting his
dream job at the paper, and as I mentioned, sports
column writing, and in fact they review him call a
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sports writer until the late eighties. Well, no, he did
some of that, but he was a sports columnist for sure.
In fact, you know, there were times when I was
working in Dallas where I would run into I almost
thought they were like I couldn't see one without the other.
It would be at some national events. It would be
growing Roycy.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
That's who I.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Would tend to see, and that's like, oh, that's that's
the that's the there's the Twin Cities contingent right there.
And then, as I mentioned, you know, it's interesting Kesler,
because the transition from sports columnists to metro columnists doesn't
always work out. Sometimes it does. Sometimes you don't even
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get the opportunity. People don't give you the opportunity to
do it. And he made it his own, you know,
very effectively and pretty seamlessly, because it's a it's there's
some similarities, but there's a little bit different art I
think to being a good topical metro side columnists so news.
He apparently had been battling various forms of cancer for
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a while and I think most recently, according to this piece,
had been in.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Hospice.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
A couple of things I remember about Doug Grow, who
spent a lot of time at the Capitol for a columnist,
and that was kind of unusual at the time, but
Jesse Ventura had just been elected, and Doug Grow was
somebody who as a writer wrote with tremendous wit and
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extremely sharp wit. So sometimes the knife would go in
and it almost felt good. But he wrote about Jesse Ventura,
who was a larger than life target for a newspaper columnist,
and frequently we'd sit together on the front in the
front row of a press conference, and Ventura went at him.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
There would be a recent column. Yeah, we actually have soundbites.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
I don't know, I'm guess, and it'd be pretty hard for
Blakemore to find them in the system where you were.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Probably you know, right next or near him next where
it was the old uh, why are you laughing?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
It? Can I do it? Go ahead? Why are you laughing?
Mister Grow? Although that sounds more like the cross. And then,
and this was.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Around the time that that that Jesse was in his heyday,
and Grow would write something about him, and he would.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Single him out.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yes, he would, very much like President.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Trump does nowadays, but Trump does it with real animosity
and sometimes cruelty, and Jesse, I think, just went at
him like a w W E wrestler.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And the thing about Doug Grow is that he would just.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Laugh and laugh and laugh, and you could hear him.
He had this infectious laugh, this memorable laugh that you
could hear him down cavernous hallways of the Minnesota State Capitol.
So you could hear him coming, his big, big laugh,
and he would he just saw amusement in the human
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folly of politics.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
We'll find it.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Were reminded because I think on on commons sound by
pages he he I don't know if he plays it
as often as he used to.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
But there are a couple of the growth.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Yeah, so why are you laughing? And then it was
he stopped mid sentence, like a few minutes later.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Again, yeah, at least you're not. And then as it was,
at least you're not laughing, No you're not. Are you good?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Oh god?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yeah, Doug Grow just a great yeah, good man. Really
proud to have known him.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
He ended up.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I think he spent some time at Minpost. I think
he took a buy out.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah from the start, which surprised thought, you know, was
twenty years ago. Yeah, and so I was very surprised
and shocked by the news.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
And r P Doug Grow because he was one of
a kind.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Yeah, there's no question about that. So our thoughts are
definitely with his. His family had a very very good
run here for sure. Blake Moore has gotten back in
the room now, we'll ask him. If you look around well,
Kesser and I start, uh this segment going in some
other directions. It would be in the probably in the
(17:21):
commonmand Bits pages. There are one or two involving Governor
Ventura and Doug Grow. I assume they'd be labeled more
for the Jesse.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, would labeled why are you laughing.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Or something like that.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Yeah, oh yeah, I know what you're talking about. That
you're doing it again, Yeah, do we have it?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
It's here because that was during those days when it
would just send Jesse off. That's pretty good. And and
and Grow just loved it. He loved that kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Yeah, there's no question about that. So a significant great
run that he had here for sure, really was we
were talking about sports nicknames Minnesota sports nicknames earlier, because
in general, the whole nickname concept is just not as
cool anymore. There aren't as many. There were so many
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back in the day. I don't know if it was
more innocent time, whatever the case may be. And I
asked people to remind me of some of the ones
that might resonate years later here, and I'm I'm embarrassed
that I didn't think of I think one of the
best Frankie Sweet music viola. That's not punchy because it's
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it's two words, but it was outstanding and he was
assigned that nickname for some reason.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And our listeners.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Will come up with this, I honestly don't Was there
some dude playing violin what?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm not sure?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Oh that I have totally forgotten that one. And I
hope our listeners somebody will know the backs for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
But that's a really good one because again it's not
obvious unless you know the backstory. But yet it resonates
and in a lot of ways, you could say whatever
the original meaning was when he pitches their sweet music,
I mean that.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Was that was sure? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
And what was have you mentioned KG the kid Doug
Kidd we mentioned?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I mean, is that a nickname that he gave to himself?
Big ticket of clicket?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
It was was Harlan the Kid.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I think he gave that to himself, did he not?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I don't remember that. You might be right, Yeah, you
might be right.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
The kid was here whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Uh, yeah, I agree with you listening earlier that we
have we have we don't have the greatest sports figure
nicknames here, so we got to get on that.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, I trail ref guy in quotes. Do you find
this funny? Mister grow I see you're laughing and smiling,
just wondering if you find this funny. At least you're
not laughing and smiling anymore. Oh, I guess you're back
at it again.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Where where is it we're finding you're doing? Yeah, let's
find it. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
I think it's hard to understate just how many pages of.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Crowd through every show has.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
And by the way, with all of the national reputation
of iHeart Radio, I mean, can you have a I
find that Brett Blakemore, I mean somewhere.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, Well you'd like to find it. You'd like to
think so, wouldn't you.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, I mean I know you will. I know you will.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
There's literally three pages of Wow, what a great blank mind,
And there's three pages of it just that.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, like this, Wow, what a great Lucy Goosey sports mind.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I mean, that's the type of stuff I'm trying to
filter through.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Fine, Yeah, it's understand it might take you several days,
you might not be able to get back to this
for uh, for quite some time.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
But thank you for sending that in trail ref guy,
because it's got to be out there and and I'm
very busy right now.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Well, here's how I could look it up.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Here's what Wikipedia says about sweet Music the nickname. Yes,
they claim that it was basically a local sports writer
declared that watching the Southwolk pitch brought sweet Music to
the Metrodome. I don't know who that is. I don't
remember if it was. It wasn't Jastane right, It was
definitely not me. I'm not that clever.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I think I might. This is probably it here you ready,
that's okay?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
You find this funny, mister Grow? You're smiling? Do you
find this humorous?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Remind me never not?
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Do you find this humorous? Mister Grew, you're laughing and smiling.
I'm just wondering if you do a man for my question.
Mister Graw, do you find this humorous?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
No?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I find it.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
Keeping a four years shore, at least you're not smiling
and laughing.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
No.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Here, I guess you're back at it again.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It's like it's like I'm in the room again.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
It's so great. And so that became part of our stories.
And and Doug Grow, you know, he was going to
take that in many ways, be like Roycey. He just
answered him back which, Oh.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
My god, that's funny.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
What I remember about the Sweet Music nickname is the
tradition became that every time he pitched in the Dome
there was a Sweet Music banner unfurled. It was down
the right field line that I remember that.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I do remember that, but that that so it wasn't
in my mind some Italian guy from a restaurant coming
to play in the upper right field in front of
a banner.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
On a violin viola that I've said viola. We haven't
had him on. We said him on all the time
in this show, we've not. Part of the reason I've
hesitated to put him on as much as we used
to is he's basically sworn off major League baseball. He's become,
you know, he's become kind of like the old guy
who can't stand the game, and a lot of times
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it's almost like he's just not even interested in talking
about the Twins or other Major League baseball.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
He's become very curmugilal. Do you know why he says
he doesn't recognize the game now, he doesn't like the
way it's coached. Now it's not just antony.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
And he was he still is a coach.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
He was doing.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
He was I think he's still maybe doing some minor
league work. And he was a tremendous interview because he
had that New York's sensibility, so.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
He he had no filter. He was much more honest.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
That's why when I covered the team, where I was
around the team back in this in my columns days,
I loved the one thing about Frankie that a lot
of you know, he occasionally would even come up to
me and say, you know, there's other guy's mad at
you for writing about this whatever. And I said, are
you mad at me? He says no, because he said,
I think mainly you write the truth. He said, people
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just don't always want to hear it. And to me,
what that was about is he grew up in New York.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah, so if you grew up in New York media,
you kind of get all right, it's gonna be there's
gonna be a break, there's gonna.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Be battles between the two sides. They got a job
to do, You got a job to do. If if
you weren't brought up in that media environment, maybe you
don't have that, you know, quite that same understanding.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that he has soured on baseball,
and I'd.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Love to know exactly what it was, because.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
The game evolves over decades and over one hundred years,
over a century, correct, So it has been modernized to
yeah quite a degree now with the pitch clock and
the and the video replace and all of that. But yeah,
it's it's the same game. So I'm curious to know
why that is. Yeah, well, I'll be researching that after
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the show.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I'm sure you will. I will not surprise me at all.
I need to get to you.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Let me see if I can find this here or
maybe I just I might have just sent it to
myself via via X.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Let's see.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
It it touches on a subject. Oh here's the other
nickname update I want to get to. This is from
our guy Dan Minnesota, and I teased this earlier. Might
as well pay off the tease now. So when you
think of the Vikings defensive line, the front four from
back in the days of Alan Pageman, Carl le Eler,
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Jim Marsham Marshall, Gary Larson, what's the nickname you think of?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Immediately? I think of Purple people Leader, Purple piece of it.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
But here's what's interesting that Dan Winnesota found in he
found a story. It looks like it is an associated press
story that might have appeared in the Start Tribune, and
it was from November.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Of nineteen sixty eight. And the proposition is that they
walk one day, they walk into the locker room and
somebody has referral put up a purple people eaters sign,
and according to this story, they hated it. They summarily
rejected it.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Let me see if I can give you some of
the details on this. This is, for example, this is
the true I guess you could say spirit of forty
for sixty or all in this together. Because at the time,
if you were called the Rams Front, four was called
the Fearsome Forsome, the Dallas Cowboys defense was called the
Doomsday Defense, and we were trying apparently to get purple
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people eaters.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Going in Washington had the hogs.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
That's true, that was later, but yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
So here's what apparently the players, according to Jim Marshall,
he's quoted, we're satisfied as being the Vikings defense. Don't
know if there's anything more ferocious in the early Vikings.
We would rather not be singled out in name. We
would like to think of ourselves as an entire team.
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When you start naming the front four, you kind of
cheat the linebackers and the defensive backs. That's how selfless
those old Vikings were. They didn't like being singled out
for just that part of the defense, just that unit.
Any notoriety we've gotten in making the big plays mainly
can be attributed to the entire defensive team.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Of course, we can't throw the.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Quarterback if the defensive backs don't cover, and of course
they don't usually make the interceptions if we don't make them.
The man throw the ball quickly. The Rams might have
their own thing. We have our own thing. If they
want to be known as fearsome foursome, that's their privilege.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
We would like to be known as the Vikings defense,
not as catchy.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Yeah, but they were against the originally Purple People Leads defense.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
They didn't like it.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Well, I remember when that first happened, and all I
could think of was that pop song, that novelty song,
the Purple People Leaders.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yes, remember that one I do.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
One, not one flying Purple that's from or even earlier
in the cities. It has to be, yeah, it has
to be but I totally get it, and you know,
these guys are serious men.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
They're not going to have that.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
No.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
I thought it was pretty harmless and was that I
didn't realize that was a part of the history of
the club, an important part of the history. Before we
get into some stuff that you gave me, here's let
me see if I can get.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
An early rating.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
This is via your guy, Michael Smerconish. Apparently he had
Mark halpern on, who unveiled his latest rankings of the
It's the two early game as always, but it's fun
to play of the Democrats most likely to win the
twenty twenty eight election.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Have you seen this chart yet?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Well, I actually, coincidentally, without prompting from you, happened to
listen to this. Oh you actually this my podcast itself. Well, no,
it was his radio show. This one just happened to
fall into it on the radio.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
I'm going to have to interrupt you, even though I
didn't because I forgot. We're one break behind, so we're
gonna pause. We'll have you respond to who he's got
at the top of that list and what you make
of it, because again it's way too early.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
But disagree with most of it.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
There was one name in particular that was missing that
I thought I want to bring up to So we'll
talk about that. We'll continue with some other controversy from
your guy Kessler when we come back.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Let bumper to help your business reach engaged listeners.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Can I ask you a question, Pat Kestler, and I
don't want you to take this round.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
You don't have to answer it.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
No, why? Yeah, you kind of do all right? Why
do you hate the grateful debt?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Oh? Stop it?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Oh you don't want to be dragged into this?
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Do you not make me part of this?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Oh? My god, I know what you'd say.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Do you're honest?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
What would I say?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I'm not going to speak for you because I'm not there.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
So do let me ask you this. Do I seem
like a dead head? That's number one?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
No?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Thirty fifty years ago? Would I have been a dead head? No, okay,
I don't think you would have been, all right.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Which isn't to say that some of the bells and
whistles associated with I'm dead all in once upon a time. Yep,
I think you you know, I think you might pass
it now. But there it's it's a sensitive lot.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Well, it really is and I respect the Grateful Dead.
Yeah that's a unique, but you don't fear it. I
can't hope, you can only hope to contain It's dead heads. Yeah,
it's they are a unique American institution, iconic. And during
the Last Dead funeral a few months ago, you know,
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I got reintroduced to them, of course. Yeah, and you know, oh,
it's they're fine.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
You're why you know, don't Why are you doing this?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Because I know that's what you mean.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Say it.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Here's the deal.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I'm not a jam band guy, whether it's the Grateful.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Dead or your band, Fish.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Fish or Humphrey's McGee look it up, kids.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
So yeah, you know I'm not.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
I'm not the that kind of that's the kind of
music that I don't necessarily listen to.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I found it to be neandering.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
I'm going to add a little self little self indulgent.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
I think what you're really saying without saying it is
you actually wouldn't mind a jam band if the jam
had any point to it, or any place that it.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Actually got, if it had a beginning, a middle, and
an end. Because structure people think that you can't, but
you can.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
That's that's so the.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Fear that I have with this, and I respect all
the dead, go for it.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I'm totally dead, I am. I will say that.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
But the vibe is that if if you don't like
the dead, you're an idiot, and I don't want to
be there are There is a band that comes to
mind when when you when you posted that and I
saw this that you named the Grateful Dead, which I
thought was a terrible mistake on your part.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Might have been, but I had a band that came
to mind.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Go ahead, Kiss.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I think you're gonna say, eat, Kiss, Kiss. Why can't
argue with that Kiss overrated? Yeah, okay, I would have
ad it. I have aded listeners.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I don't think the I think the Kiss. The folks
devoted to Kiss.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
I think are less defensive and will be okay with that.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
So you could be a dead head.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
And this is one of the great beautiful things about
the dead, is that you could be a dead head
at twenty and at eighty. I'm not sure you could
say time it's time. I mean, you know, for whole life.
I am not sure the same could be said of Kiss.
If you're a twenty five year old rock and roll
all life right, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
All right, So this list from how Mark Halpern way
too early on, way too early Democrats was likely to
win the twenty twenty eight presidential election.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
The guy he has at the top of the list
is your.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Guy out of California, the governor of California, Gavin Newsom.
Do you agree or do you think he's just stating
one of the obvious names that tend to get thrown
out because some people believe the path is real. Other
people think the closer we get to it, and the
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more he is, you know, dealing with the daily grind
of running for president, the less likely that he would
be end up holding up.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Where are you on that? Well, I disagree with the
number one pick, Gavin Newsom. Who would you put number
one today?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Again? Way too early? Does a name come to mind?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Well, I am getting a lot of good vibes in
the political world from John ass Off and Josh Shapiro,
both of them are on the list. I see that
Kamala Harris is number six on the list of ten,
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and maybe we should have gone ten to one, But
number seven is.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
John ass Off. Number six is Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
I do believe she has tremendous support within the party,
certainly highest name I D pretty much of anybody in
the party.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
But how do you recover from.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
That disaster a couple of years. It's very very difficult.
Number five is somebody I say do not sleep on.
And you're going to say I'm crazy. But is AOC
a contender? Is she a contender?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Now?
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I think she's only let's say thirty six, thirty seven
years old.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I think she's thirty six years.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Old, so she's barely old enough to be president of
the United States. And if I were her, I would
absolutely wait because I think she's like the lion the
lioness circling Chuck Schumer, and that I think she may
make a run for Chuck Schumer seat, be a US
Senator in New York for a couple of years and
then run. So that's who he has on his list.
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Number five, All right, let's do this.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Let me get I gotta get one more break in
and then back if you've got more to get to
on this, And then we got to get to what's
the name of this main guy who's now is he dropping?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I want to talk.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
About your guy, Graham Platner.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
We'll get to my guy, Graham Plattner in a minute,
and what that. There's a lot of interesting tentacles to
that story, and we'll try to squeeze a couple of
other things. Kessler is back with us after a brief pause.
You are listening to Barrero.
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Speaker 5 (36:10):
All right, we got to get to the infect textures
are demanding that we get to a story that you
brought up during the during the break, involving Mitch McConnell.
But you had one other item you want to mention
regarding this way too premature list of potential Democratic presidential candidates.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah, I was going to say only that AOC Alexandria
Cassio Cortez is one of the only top progressive Democrats
who declined to endorse Graham Platner, the dude in Maine,
your guy who's disintegrating amid allegations of sexual assault by
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a former girlfriend and many other instances of drunkenness and
cruelty and bad behavior that he.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Attributes to alcohol and to PTSD.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
We are still awaiting word whether or not he is
going to drop out of the race. The irony here
is that so many Democratic leaders, progressive leaders, ran to
the front of the parade, including Governor Tim Walls and
Senator Tina Smith, who have withdrawn their endorsements in order
to elect someone. And now it appears this was the
(37:28):
easiest state for Democrats.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
To pick up. Right now it looks like they're not
going to do it. So watch that one.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Well, who's the guy he writes for The Atlantic, one
of the political guys.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
What did he write that got my attention?
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Maybe the process to rise from random guy to us
senators should take more than a few minutes. And I
think we're always really both parties. I think it's that
deal of.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Okay, we got to find the next big thing.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
True, there's there's something scary about that coming together. Like
I said, this is the one we've just decided. And
I like the horse race. I like the process. I
know it's throwback and it's back to smoke filled rooms
in a sense in that regard, but it is a
little scary where once you decide, you just decide, and
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you decide that quickly. And because don't these guys and
gals hopefully need to show us something over a period
of time.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Right, Well, there's a.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Couple of things about that.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah, the vetting by the party is something that's really
really important, so that if you are going to run
for office, leaders of the party, including political parties right
here in Minnesota, need to do some due diligence to
find out what is in the background of these candidates.
It used to be you ask them, you might do
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a cursory criminal background checks, see if they got an
the DWIS.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
But this stuff that here nowadays is pretty crazy.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
And the allegations of sexual violence or sexual adjacent violence,
the abuse of women, that kind of thing, not to
mention in Grand Platner's chess tattoo of a Nazi symbol
that he says he didn't understand. Everybody accepted his explanation
for it, including the leader of the Progressives in the
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United States, Bernie Sanders, who has now withdrawn his own endorsement.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
So, yeah, this is really tough.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
How much should politicians you and I talk about this
all the time, be required to tell us about themselves,
including people like Mitch McConnell, people who are sick, people
who disappear from Congress. How much should we know presidents
who disguise their physical well being.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I mean, it's really interesting.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Last September, the a Progressive Strategy named Morris Katz speaking
to The New Yorker about Platiner whether he was qualified
to run for US Senate.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Quote.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
Within a few minutes of talking to him, I was like,
this guy owes it to the country to run for Senate, Like,
come on, man, you got to get out of your
own way sometimes, or because that's the sort of thing
that Lee, I think makes it more likely that you
had this end to this sort of thing. Something in
unravel this way. I do want to give you one
other quote I want to get your reaction to. This
is from your guy, uh, Kevin McCarthy on the Platiner allegations.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Did you read this quote? Read it to me that
the one thing I know about Republicans is when we
had a very bad candidate, we didn't vote for that person.
We walked away.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Now, how do you do this with a straight face? Well,
I know that quote.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
It really is good and they're saying, well, which possible
candidate are you talking to? Matt Gate? Did Gates? And
then of course George Santos, the serial about truth Teller?
But what about your guy, the president? And now the
(41:14):
Republicans are on the high road, They're on their high horse,
so to speak, saying that you can't, Graham Plattner, why
would Democrats support a candidate who was accused of sexual abuse?
Speaker 1 (41:26):
And it's like, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
So there is no self awareness and irony in the
United States is dead.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
So what is the Mitch McConnell mystery? What's this about?
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Mitch McConnell, according to a number of reputable news organizations,
has been disappeared from the Senate for many weeks, and
NBC News and Politico I believe, have reported that someone
at Mitch McConnell's residence of called nine to one one.
(42:01):
The paramedics arrived, the man was on the person, unidentified
person was unconscious.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
They did CPR.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
We have not heard anything from Mitch McConnell ever since.
So today the governor of Kentucky, who should, by the way,
be on the list of presidential hopefuls, demanded that Mitch
McConnell reveal what's going on. There is a conspiracy theory
(42:30):
President Trump's one of his closest friends and influencers, Laura Loomer,
is reporting that Mitch McConnell is brain dead and will
never come back to the Senate. I want to emphasize no,
nothing is confirmed, no one knows anything, but that is
getting millions and millions of views on social media.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
But that's what happens in the vacuum. Information being passed away.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
Absolutely, and the conspiracy is that they're trying to keep
him away. Live passed a certain deadline in Kentucky to
keep Thomas Massy, Trump's nemesis from running for the seat,
because they're going to have to if he steps down
from the seat, or we hope not worse, if anything
happens to him, they're going to have to appoint somebody to.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Fill that seat.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
So it's a situation where Thomas Kane, the congressman from
New Jersey, disappeared for four months and didn't tell anybody
where he was, what he.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Was doing, what was wrong.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Here in Minnesota, we have three Minneapolis City Council members,
one of them who had one of whom has taken
a month leave of absence but they have been to
their credit. Here is what's wrong with me. Here is
what I'm trying to deal with. I don't mean what's
wrong with me. Here is the issue I am dealing with.
And here's how long it'll be gone. So if politicians
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owe us anything, and I think they do, that is
the way to do it.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
We all have a minute left.
Speaker 5 (43:58):
Arnie Carlson, who's occasionally joined this program many times over
the years, has issued a warning to Minnesota Democrats.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
What's this about?
Speaker 4 (44:08):
Be careful, Arnie Carlson, writes, with two other prominent Minnesota
political people, says that don't be smug. Don't act like
you've got this thing one, he says to Democrats, because
of everything that's been going on, Amy Klobashar is running well,
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have a couple of strong Democrats of candidates for US Senate.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
He says, the fraud thing is bubbling up.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
People are really dissatisfied Republicans, Democrats, independence with everybody in office.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
They're unsettled, They're.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Dissatisfied, and he says predicting fraud allegations are going to
bubble to the surface again and that will be the
main thing, and it could cause Democrats the election.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
May Arnie Carlson live forever. He's some unbelievable We got
to go.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Great material today, a lot of controversy and good luck
dealing with the kiss Army kiss all, Oh you.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Changed your mind?
Speaker 1 (45:13):
You bumper to bumper with Dan.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Quite a program today.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
We want to thank our outstanding array of guests. Jamie
Watson on the World Cup. He joined us at three
point thirty. We had Alex Lewis at about four forty
five is for fifty or so on his poll on
fan perception on the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
We've got into some other good stuff with him too.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
And Kessler in studio as always had a lot of
good music conversation
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Is the ABYSS in effect? Is there not that much
to get to do? You have a couple of good nuggets? Interesting,
I've got a couple things.
Speaker 6 (00:39):
It feels like the abys is an effect because the
World Cup.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
This is the first day without a World Cup.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
Game in like three weeks good point, So it feels
like it's just barantee.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I absolutely well.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
There were some days for a while where there were
like several games, right, and then I got used to
at least two, right, how many we have yesterday?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Was it two or three?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We had two?
Speaker 5 (01:03):
One in the late afternoon, great and then one at night.
I was very much looking forward to that. Our next
matches tomorrow, correct, that is correct? France and Morocco at
three tomorrow. You give Morocco any chance?
Speaker 6 (01:15):
I mean, I think it will be close. I think
it can be a two to one game, legit, right, Yeah,
they're a good team. I mean, France is just the
class of the world.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, they are.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
So Friday La Roja Spain and Belgium.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
What time is that game? That's two o'clock, so we'll
get the second half, right, I'm distracted like you Sunday morning.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Think about it. Will your hoodie be in in time?
Speaker 5 (01:37):
I don't think so. I tried to get expedited shipping
and I could. It's a nice looking hoodie. It's it's
actually a little busier than most of the hoodies I
prefer prefer.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And it's that black.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Most of my hoodies are black or blue dark blue,
but this one was just too.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Compelling for me.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
They have not yet, They've not what is the term
conceited a goal yet? Is that what we say in soccer?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
They have not conceded a goal. Yeah, that's correct, which
is pretty remarkable, is it not? I mean, there, I
mean for the.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Proof that sometimes the best offense is a good defense.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
There's several Lebron stories, and unfortunately neither one of them
include the Minnesota Timberwolves. What I saw one to go
back to your opening, the opening se this show, Steph
Curry said today, I'd say more so I'm interested in
just to play more golf with the I saw that
Steph Curry unbelievable golfer. Watch he is really good. And
(02:33):
then Bob Myers familiar with him.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, now running the Sixers right.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Correct, Well, he's basically made his sales pitch, uh to
Rich Paul, basically saying why he should go to Philly.
So everyone's getting in and we heard from Johnny last
week the Wolves are ramping up. They better start ramping
up even more. It looks like everyone's circling. He ain't
coming here. What I wanted to find was, let me
(03:01):
see if I can get it via X because I
think I'm not mistaken. Sham's latest report narrows it to three.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Let me say if I can find it. Unless it was
that was.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
A that was a fake. Uh fake, you know that
happens sometimes. I could have sworn I'm scrolling down. Was
it yesterday?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
No? Maybe I maybe I did make it up.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
I thought I had read a belief that it's basically
it's likely down to three teams Miami Cleveland. No, four
teams Miami Cleveland, Golden State, and Philly. He had Philly
(03:47):
in there. Who you just mentioned Myers. Uh, we're not
gonna he ain't come here.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
It's it's it's it's a nice dream. It was fun.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
It's harmless to I guess participate, but it's it's not
not happening here.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
I respected trying to reverse jinxits that he lands here.
I respect that what was your favorite? You're probably not
what was your favorite? Justin Verlander moment, he is announced
that he's retiring three Cy Young's two World Series an
MVP award. What says in the ESPN article an undoubtedly
Hall of Fame career.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I think that would be correct. He's forty three years old,
he said.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
I never wanted to retire because of a milestone, a number,
or a date on a calendar. I wanted the game
to tell me when it was time. Over the last
several months, I've realized the time has come. What was
your favorite justin Verlander moment.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
He's had a bunch of them. Man, he was what
a horse of a pitcher for sure.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
How old is he? Did you say? I did? He
is forty three? Forty three years old.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Man's that's a pretty good run.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Can he lit us up a few times? I can't find.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
The the tweet I'm looking for here. I know what
it is, but ill for the shams bit. Yeah, for
the shams bit. I did notice? Did you see? Delo
is on the move again? So there's this massive sixteen
trade that people have talked about that involves like a
million teams, right and Dlo is in the middle of it,
(05:17):
traded I think from the Wizards to the Memphis Grizzlies.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I can't imagine.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
A better place for him to be than the Grizzlies,
a screwed up organization at this point that is basically
starting over. So I'm guessing it's money. You know that
he just represents the contract and money. But that's we
have to get. I think research how many different teams
Dilo has now been on and if he's gonna eventually
set the record and be moved around more than any
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other significant player. At one point, he was a highly
regarded player once upon a time. I can't believe there's
been very many players of his ilk who has been
traded as often as he has. There's a message there,
I would say to de Lo fans if there are
any left.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Lastly, I saw this article that made me chuckle. Colorado
quarterback Julian Lewis and believes how you say it was
talking at Big twelve media days and he said, what's
the biggest or he asked what was the biggest difference
between last year and this year? And he said, and
obviously Deon Sanders was his coach last year, my play,
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I'm actually looking at defenses now.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Last year we wasn't really looking at defense as much,
just kind of high school free balling, just out there
playing football. But it's a lot bigger than that now,
so it should be fun.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Wow. That's quite an indictment on the coaches, is it not.
And I don't I don't know how you get away
with that.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Yeah, I don't either. That's that's that's that's that's juicy.
I was unaware of that. The other NBA nugget Worth
mentioning there were people again delusional in this town, thinking well,
maybe Achima could like slip through the cracks the former
Laker and end up here he could be our answer
in the front court. There was never a chance in
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hell that they had the kind of money necessary to
bring him here, and I think he ends up going
crosstown from the Lakers to the Clippers. I want to say,
it's a two year deal, fourteen million bucks. You gotta
I know you want it bad. I know we got
a big hole in the front court, but that was
never even close to being a realistic option, as again
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we were finding out. Don't blame me for this observation. Okay,
I didn't say it. I quoted it in my most
recent tweet to the Deadhead community. The dead are the
Alman Brothers without the talent. Don't blame me. Don't shoot
the messenger. You know what, I know I got the
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dead Headers when their response is.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You're over your skis on this one, Dan, this is
that's when you know you got them here your.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Way out there this time. Dan, don't just you don't
want to make a fool of yourself. That's when you
know you got them where the card is. You're just
too stupid to understand the talent of the group and
the makeup of the group.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
You're over your skis.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
I love that one that's that means, as somebody once said,
mission accomplished. I'm going to come back with the nickname
that was I was reminded of by an enterprising Texter.
I can't believe, when we're talking about local, you know,
athlete nicknames over the decades.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
That I forgot this one.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
This guy was one of my favorites and a tremendous
contributor to many very successful Minnesota Twins teams. We'll get
to that, we'll prepare for special k Pat Kessler, and
you know what else. We have a nugget from Dan
Minnesota about nicknames when once upon a time, the members
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of the Minnesota Vikings Front four.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
The vaunted Front four.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Of the old days, rejected a nickname that a lot
of people grew up with believing was one of the
best I guess you could say position nicknames in the
history of Minnesota Vikings football. So it gets all of
that and some special case stuff on the politics when
we returned Bumford. I wish the American media would take
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a great look at the views that the people in
conference and find out are they pro.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
All America or anti America Pat Kessler, because people have
got to know whether or not.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Their presidents are croup, but I'm not.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
I can't trust Still bare Essler teared down this walk.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I did nothing wrong at the Minneapolis.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Airport, Senator or no, Jack Kenneth Kissler.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
And now to help Dan break down all the tough
questions in politics.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's our own Kssler political walk.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I feel like a supermodel, except like times ten, it's
Channel fours Backussler with Dan Morero on the fan.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And now it's time for Ode to a dead guys
twice in the same day.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
And this is late breaking news that I was unaware
of until an intrepid listener alerted me via x. One
of the columnist heavyweights in the Twin Cities of Minneapolis
and Saint Paul Doug Grow has passed away at the
age of seventy.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Eight years old.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Grow was first a sports columnist at the Star Tribune
and when he got the bump to be the so
called city side columnist metro columnist, that's when I got
the call. That's exactly what allowed me to get here to,
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you know, apply for the.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Sports editor not know. I did not know that, And
I will tell you that.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
He was extremely generous in that regard with his time
with me and supportive the whole bit. He worked i
think in the market for twenty seven years. I'm looking
at the Star Tobune story that lays all of this out.
And he also did a lot of reporting, but I
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think probably because the metro side stuff was the stuff
he did most recently. That's where most people who are
you know or were around then are old enough.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
To remember reading him.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
I'm sure you included probably associated him more with that
than the sports side of it. He his hometown was Watertown,
South Dakota. He apparently delivered the Minneapolis Tribune in his
hometown back in the day. Went to school at the
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Universe Journalism School the University of Missouri, worked at newspapers
in Boonville, Missouri, Milwaukee, and Saint Louis before getting his
dream job at the paper, and as I mentioned, sports
column writing, and in fact they review him call a
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sports writer until the late eighties. Well, no, he did
some of that, but he was a sports columnist for sure.
In fact, you know, there were times when I was
working in Dallas where I would run into I almost
thought they were like I couldn't see one without the other.
It would be at some national events. It would be
growing Roycy.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
That's who I.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Would tend to see, and that's like, oh, that's that's
the that's the there's the Twin Cities contingent right there.
And then, as I mentioned, you know, it's interesting Kesler,
because the transition from sports columnists to metro columnists doesn't
always work out. Sometimes it does. Sometimes you don't even
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get the opportunity. People don't give you the opportunity to
do it. And he made it his own, you know,
very effectively and pretty seamlessly, because it's a it's there's
some similarities, but there's a little bit different art I
think to being a good topical metro side columnists so news.
He apparently had been battling various forms of cancer for
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a while and I think most recently, according to this piece,
had been in.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Hospice.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
A couple of things I remember about Doug Grow, who
spent a lot of time at the Capitol for a columnist,
and that was kind of unusual at the time, but
Jesse Ventura had just been elected, and Doug Grow was
somebody who as a writer wrote with tremendous wit and
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extremely sharp wit. So sometimes the knife would go in
and it almost felt good. But he wrote about Jesse Ventura,
who was a larger than life target for a newspaper columnist,
and frequently we'd sit together on the front in the
front row of a press conference, and Ventura went at him.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
There would be a recent column. Yeah, we actually have soundbites.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
I don't know, I'm guess, and it'd be pretty hard for
Blakemore to find them in the system where you were.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Probably you know, right next or near him next where
it was the old uh, why are you laughing?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
It? Can I do it? Go ahead? Why are you laughing?
Mister Grow? Although that sounds more like the cross. And then,
and this was.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Around the time that that that Jesse was in his heyday,
and Grow would write something about him, and he would.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Single him out.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yes, he would, very much like President.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Trump does nowadays, but Trump does it with real animosity
and sometimes cruelty, and Jesse, I think, just went at
him like a w W E wrestler.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And the thing about Doug Grow is that he would just.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Laugh and laugh and laugh, and you could hear him.
He had this infectious laugh, this memorable laugh that you
could hear him down cavernous hallways of the Minnesota State Capitol.
So you could hear him coming, his big, big laugh,
and he would he just saw amusement in the human
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folly of politics.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
We'll find it.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Were reminded because I think on on commons sound by
pages he he I don't know if he plays it
as often as he used to.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
But there are a couple of the growth.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Yeah, so why are you laughing? And then it was
he stopped mid sentence, like a few minutes later.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Again, yeah, at least you're not. And then as it was,
at least you're not laughing, No you're not. Are you good?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Oh god?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yeah, Doug Grow just a great yeah, good man. Really
proud to have known him.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
He ended up.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I think he spent some time at Minpost. I think
he took a buy out.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah from the start, which surprised thought, you know, was
twenty years ago. Yeah, and so I was very surprised
and shocked by the news.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
And r P Doug Grow because he was one of
a kind.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Yeah, there's no question about that. So our thoughts are
definitely with his. His family had a very very good
run here for sure. Blake Moore has gotten back in
the room now, we'll ask him. If you look around well,
Kesser and I start, uh this segment going in some
other directions. It would be in the probably in the
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commonmand Bits pages. There are one or two involving Governor
Ventura and Doug Grow. I assume they'd be labeled more
for the Jesse.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, would labeled why are you laughing.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Or something like that.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Yeah, oh yeah, I know what you're talking about. That
you're doing it again, Yeah, do we have it?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
It's here because that was during those days when it
would just send Jesse off. That's pretty good. And and
and Grow just loved it. He loved that kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Yeah, there's no question about that. So a significant great
run that he had here for sure, really was we
were talking about sports nicknames Minnesota sports nicknames earlier, because
in general, the whole nickname concept is just not as
cool anymore. There aren't as many. There were so many
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back in the day. I don't know if it was
more innocent time, whatever the case may be. And I
asked people to remind me of some of the ones
that might resonate years later here, and I'm I'm embarrassed
that I didn't think of I think one of the
best Frankie Sweet music viola. That's not punchy because it's
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it's two words, but it was outstanding and he was
assigned that nickname for some reason.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And our listeners.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Will come up with this, I honestly don't Was there
some dude playing violin what?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm not sure?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Oh that I have totally forgotten that one. And I
hope our listeners somebody will know the backs for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
But that's a really good one because again it's not
obvious unless you know the backstory. But yet it resonates
and in a lot of ways, you could say whatever
the original meaning was when he pitches their sweet music,
I mean that.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Was that was sure? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
And what was have you mentioned KG the kid Doug
Kidd we mentioned?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I mean, is that a nickname that he gave to himself?
Big ticket of clicket?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
It was was Harlan the Kid.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I think he gave that to himself, did he not?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I don't remember that. You might be right, Yeah, you
might be right.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
The kid was here whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Uh, yeah, I agree with you listening earlier that we
have we have we don't have the greatest sports figure
nicknames here, so we got to get on that.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, I trail ref guy in quotes. Do you find
this funny? Mister grow I see you're laughing and smiling,
just wondering if you find this funny. At least you're
not laughing and smiling anymore. Oh, I guess you're back
at it again.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Where where is it we're finding you're doing? Yeah, let's
find it. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
I think it's hard to understate just how many pages of.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Crowd through every show has.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
And by the way, with all of the national reputation
of iHeart Radio, I mean, can you have a I
find that Brett Blakemore, I mean somewhere.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, Well you'd like to find it. You'd like to
think so, wouldn't you.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, I mean I know you will. I know you will.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
There's literally three pages of Wow, what a great blank mind,
And there's three pages of it just that.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, like this, Wow, what a great Lucy Goosey sports mind.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I mean, that's the type of stuff I'm trying to
filter through.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Fine, Yeah, it's understand it might take you several days,
you might not be able to get back to this
for uh, for quite some time.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
But thank you for sending that in trail ref guy,
because it's got to be out there and and I'm
very busy right now.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Well, here's how I could look it up.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Here's what Wikipedia says about sweet Music the nickname. Yes,
they claim that it was basically a local sports writer
declared that watching the Southwolk pitch brought sweet Music to
the Metrodome. I don't know who that is. I don't
remember if it was. It wasn't Jastane right, It was
definitely not me. I'm not that clever.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I think I might. This is probably it here you ready,
that's okay?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
You find this funny, mister Grow? You're smiling? Do you
find this humorous?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Remind me never not?
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Do you find this humorous? Mister Grew, you're laughing and smiling.
I'm just wondering if you do a man for my question.
Mister Graw, do you find this humorous?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
No?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I find it.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
Keeping a four years shore, at least you're not smiling
and laughing.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
No.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Here, I guess you're back at it again.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It's like it's like I'm in the room again.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
It's so great. And so that became part of our stories.
And and Doug Grow, you know, he was going to
take that in many ways, be like Roycey. He just
answered him back which, Oh.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
My god, that's funny.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
What I remember about the Sweet Music nickname is the
tradition became that every time he pitched in the Dome
there was a Sweet Music banner unfurled. It was down
the right field line that I remember that.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I do remember that, but that that so it wasn't
in my mind some Italian guy from a restaurant coming
to play in the upper right field in front of
a banner.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
On a violin viola that I've said viola. We haven't
had him on. We said him on all the time
in this show, we've not. Part of the reason I've
hesitated to put him on as much as we used
to is he's basically sworn off major League baseball. He's become,
you know, he's become kind of like the old guy
who can't stand the game, and a lot of times
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it's almost like he's just not even interested in talking
about the Twins or other Major League baseball.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
He's become very curmugilal. Do you know why he says
he doesn't recognize the game now, he doesn't like the
way it's coached. Now it's not just antony.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
And he was he still is a coach.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
He was doing.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
He was I think he's still maybe doing some minor
league work. And he was a tremendous interview because he
had that New York's sensibility, so.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
He he had no filter. He was much more honest.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
That's why when I covered the team, where I was
around the team back in this in my columns days,
I loved the one thing about Frankie that a lot
of you know, he occasionally would even come up to
me and say, you know, there's other guy's mad at
you for writing about this whatever. And I said, are
you mad at me? He says no, because he said,
I think mainly you write the truth. He said, people
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just don't always want to hear it. And to me,
what that was about is he grew up in New York.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah, so if you grew up in New York media,
you kind of get all right, it's gonna be there's
gonna be a break, there's gonna.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Be battles between the two sides. They got a job
to do, You got a job to do. If if
you weren't brought up in that media environment, maybe you
don't have that, you know, quite that same understanding.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that he has soured on baseball,
and I'd.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Love to know exactly what it was, because.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
The game evolves over decades and over one hundred years,
over a century, correct, So it has been modernized to
yeah quite a degree now with the pitch clock and
the and the video replace and all of that. But yeah,
it's it's the same game. So I'm curious to know
why that is. Yeah, well, I'll be researching that after
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the show.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I'm sure you will. I will not surprise me at all.
I need to get to you.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Let me see if I can find this here or
maybe I just I might have just sent it to
myself via via X.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Let's see.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
It it touches on a subject. Oh here's the other
nickname update I want to get to. This is from
our guy Dan Minnesota, and I teased this earlier. Might
as well pay off the tease now. So when you
think of the Vikings defensive line, the front four from
back in the days of Alan Pageman, Carl le Eler,
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Jim Marsham Marshall, Gary Larson, what's the nickname you think of?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Immediately? I think of Purple people Leader, Purple piece of it.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
But here's what's interesting that Dan Winnesota found in he
found a story. It looks like it is an associated press
story that might have appeared in the Start Tribune, and
it was from November.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Of nineteen sixty eight. And the proposition is that they
walk one day, they walk into the locker room and
somebody has referral put up a purple people eaters sign,
and according to this story, they hated it. They summarily
rejected it.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Let me see if I can give you some of
the details on this. This is, for example, this is
the true I guess you could say spirit of forty
for sixty or all in this together. Because at the time,
if you were called the Rams Front, four was called
the Fearsome Forsome, the Dallas Cowboys defense was called the
Doomsday Defense, and we were trying apparently to get purple
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people eaters.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Going in Washington had the hogs.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
That's true, that was later, but yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
So here's what apparently the players, according to Jim Marshall,
he's quoted, we're satisfied as being the Vikings defense. Don't
know if there's anything more ferocious in the early Vikings.
We would rather not be singled out in name. We
would like to think of ourselves as an entire team.
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When you start naming the front four, you kind of
cheat the linebackers and the defensive backs. That's how selfless
those old Vikings were. They didn't like being singled out
for just that part of the defense, just that unit.
Any notoriety we've gotten in making the big plays mainly
can be attributed to the entire defensive team.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Of course, we can't throw the.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Quarterback if the defensive backs don't cover, and of course
they don't usually make the interceptions if we don't make them.
The man throw the ball quickly. The Rams might have
their own thing. We have our own thing. If they
want to be known as fearsome foursome, that's their privilege.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
We would like to be known as the Vikings defense,
not as catchy.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Yeah, but they were against the originally Purple People Leads defense.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
They didn't like it.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Well, I remember when that first happened, and all I
could think of was that pop song, that novelty song,
the Purple People Leaders.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yes, remember that one I do.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
One, not one flying Purple that's from or even earlier
in the cities. It has to be, yeah, it has
to be but I totally get it, and you know,
these guys are serious men.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
They're not going to have that.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
No.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
I thought it was pretty harmless and was that I
didn't realize that was a part of the history of
the club, an important part of the history. Before we
get into some stuff that you gave me, here's let
me see if I can get.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
An early rating.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
This is via your guy, Michael Smerconish. Apparently he had
Mark halpern on, who unveiled his latest rankings of the
It's the two early game as always, but it's fun
to play of the Democrats most likely to win the
twenty twenty eight election.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Have you seen this chart yet?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Well, I actually, coincidentally, without prompting from you, happened to
listen to this. Oh you actually this my podcast itself. Well, no,
it was his radio show. This one just happened to
fall into it on the radio.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
I'm going to have to interrupt you, even though I
didn't because I forgot. We're one break behind, so we're
gonna pause. We'll have you respond to who he's got
at the top of that list and what you make
of it, because again it's way too early.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
But disagree with most of it.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
There was one name in particular that was missing that
I thought I want to bring up to So we'll
talk about that. We'll continue with some other controversy from
your guy Kessler when we come back.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Let bumper to help your business reach engaged listeners.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Can I ask you a question, Pat Kestler, and I
don't want you to take this round.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
You don't have to answer it.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
No, why? Yeah, you kind of do all right? Why
do you hate the grateful debt?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Oh? Stop it?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Oh you don't want to be dragged into this?
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Do you not make me part of this?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Oh? My god, I know what you'd say.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Do you're honest?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
What would I say?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I'm not going to speak for you because I'm not there.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
So do let me ask you this. Do I seem
like a dead head? That's number one?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
No?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Thirty fifty years ago? Would I have been a dead head? No, okay,
I don't think you would have been, all right.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Which isn't to say that some of the bells and
whistles associated with I'm dead all in once upon a time. Yep,
I think you you know, I think you might pass
it now. But there it's it's a sensitive lot.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Well, it really is and I respect the Grateful Dead.
Yeah that's a unique, but you don't fear it. I
can't hope, you can only hope to contain It's dead heads. Yeah,
it's they are a unique American institution, iconic. And during
the Last Dead funeral a few months ago, you know,
(30:55):
I got reintroduced to them, of course. Yeah, and you know, oh,
it's they're fine.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
You're why you know, don't Why are you doing this?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Because I know that's what you mean.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Say it.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Here's the deal.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I'm not a jam band guy, whether it's the Grateful.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Dead or your band, Fish.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Fish or Humphrey's McGee look it up, kids.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
So yeah, you know I'm not.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
I'm not the that kind of that's the kind of
music that I don't necessarily listen to.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I found it to be neandering.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
I'm going to add a little self little self indulgent.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
I think what you're really saying without saying it is
you actually wouldn't mind a jam band if the jam
had any point to it, or any place that it.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Actually got, if it had a beginning, a middle, and
an end. Because structure people think that you can't, but
you can.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
That's that's so the.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Fear that I have with this, and I respect all
the dead, go for it.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I'm totally dead, I am. I will say that.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
But the vibe is that if if you don't like
the dead, you're an idiot, and I don't want to
be there are There is a band that comes to
mind when when you when you posted that and I
saw this that you named the Grateful Dead, which I
thought was a terrible mistake on your part.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Might have been, but I had a band that came
to mind.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Go ahead, Kiss.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I think you're gonna say, eat, Kiss, Kiss. Why can't
argue with that Kiss overrated? Yeah, okay, I would have
ad it. I have aded listeners.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I don't think the I think the Kiss. The folks
devoted to Kiss.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
I think are less defensive and will be okay with that.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
So you could be a dead head.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
And this is one of the great beautiful things about
the dead, is that you could be a dead head
at twenty and at eighty. I'm not sure you could
say time it's time. I mean, you know, for whole life.
I am not sure the same could be said of Kiss.
If you're a twenty five year old rock and roll
all life right, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
All right, So this list from how Mark Halpern way
too early on, way too early Democrats was likely to
win the twenty twenty eight presidential election.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
The guy he has at the top of the list
is your.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Guy out of California, the governor of California, Gavin Newsom.
Do you agree or do you think he's just stating
one of the obvious names that tend to get thrown
out because some people believe the path is real. Other
people think the closer we get to it, and the
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more he is, you know, dealing with the daily grind
of running for president, the less likely that he would
be end up holding up.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Where are you on that? Well, I disagree with the
number one pick, Gavin Newsom. Who would you put number
one today?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Again? Way too early? Does a name come to mind?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Well, I am getting a lot of good vibes in
the political world from John ass Off and Josh Shapiro,
both of them are on the list. I see that
Kamala Harris is number six on the list of ten,
(34:23):
and maybe we should have gone ten to one, But
number seven is.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
John ass Off. Number six is Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
I do believe she has tremendous support within the party,
certainly highest name I D pretty much of anybody in
the party.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
But how do you recover from.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
That disaster a couple of years. It's very very difficult.
Number five is somebody I say do not sleep on.
And you're going to say I'm crazy. But is AOC
a contender? Is she a contender?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Now?
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I think she's only let's say thirty six, thirty seven
years old.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I think she's thirty six years.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Old, so she's barely old enough to be president of
the United States. And if I were her, I would
absolutely wait because I think she's like the lion the
lioness circling Chuck Schumer, and that I think she may
make a run for Chuck Schumer seat, be a US
Senator in New York for a couple of years and
then run. So that's who he has on his list.
(35:24):
Number five, All right, let's do this.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Let me get I gotta get one more break in
and then back if you've got more to get to
on this, And then we got to get to what's
the name of this main guy who's now is he dropping?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I want to talk.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
About your guy, Graham Platner.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
We'll get to my guy, Graham Plattner in a minute,
and what that. There's a lot of interesting tentacles to
that story, and we'll try to squeeze a couple of
other things. Kessler is back with us after a brief pause.
You are listening to Barrero.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
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Speaker 5 (36:10):
All right, we got to get to the infect textures
are demanding that we get to a story that you
brought up during the during the break, involving Mitch McConnell.
But you had one other item you want to mention
regarding this way too premature list of potential Democratic presidential candidates.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah, I was going to say only that AOC Alexandria
Cassio Cortez is one of the only top progressive Democrats
who declined to endorse Graham Platner, the dude in Maine,
your guy who's disintegrating amid allegations of sexual assault by
(36:54):
a former girlfriend and many other instances of drunkenness and
cruelty and bad behavior that he.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Attributes to alcohol and to PTSD.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
We are still awaiting word whether or not he is
going to drop out of the race. The irony here
is that so many Democratic leaders, progressive leaders, ran to
the front of the parade, including Governor Tim Walls and
Senator Tina Smith, who have withdrawn their endorsements in order
to elect someone. And now it appears this was the
(37:28):
easiest state for Democrats.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
To pick up. Right now it looks like they're not
going to do it. So watch that one.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Well, who's the guy he writes for The Atlantic, one
of the political guys.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
What did he write that got my attention?
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Maybe the process to rise from random guy to us
senators should take more than a few minutes. And I
think we're always really both parties. I think it's that
deal of.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Okay, we got to find the next big thing.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
True, there's there's something scary about that coming together. Like
I said, this is the one we've just decided. And
I like the horse race. I like the process. I
know it's throwback and it's back to smoke filled rooms
in a sense in that regard, but it is a
little scary where once you decide, you just decide, and
(38:22):
you decide that quickly. And because don't these guys and
gals hopefully need to show us something over a period
of time.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Right, Well, there's a.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Couple of things about that.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah, the vetting by the party is something that's really
really important, so that if you are going to run
for office, leaders of the party, including political parties right
here in Minnesota, need to do some due diligence to
find out what is in the background of these candidates.
It used to be you ask them, you might do
(38:55):
a cursory criminal background checks, see if they got an
the DWIS.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
But this stuff that here nowadays is pretty crazy.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
And the allegations of sexual violence or sexual adjacent violence,
the abuse of women, that kind of thing, not to
mention in Grand Platner's chess tattoo of a Nazi symbol
that he says he didn't understand. Everybody accepted his explanation
for it, including the leader of the Progressives in the
(39:25):
United States, Bernie Sanders, who has now withdrawn his own endorsement.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
So, yeah, this is really tough.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
How much should politicians you and I talk about this
all the time, be required to tell us about themselves,
including people like Mitch McConnell, people who are sick, people
who disappear from Congress. How much should we know presidents
who disguise their physical well being.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I mean, it's really interesting.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Last September, the a Progressive Strategy named Morris Katz speaking
to The New Yorker about Platiner whether he was qualified
to run for US Senate.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Quote.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
Within a few minutes of talking to him, I was like,
this guy owes it to the country to run for Senate, Like,
come on, man, you got to get out of your
own way sometimes, or because that's the sort of thing
that Lee, I think makes it more likely that you
had this end to this sort of thing. Something in
unravel this way. I do want to give you one
other quote I want to get your reaction to. This
is from your guy, uh, Kevin McCarthy on the Platiner allegations.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Did you read this quote? Read it to me that
the one thing I know about Republicans is when we
had a very bad candidate, we didn't vote for that person.
We walked away.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Now, how do you do this with a straight face? Well,
I know that quote.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
It really is good and they're saying, well, which possible
candidate are you talking to? Matt Gate? Did Gates? And
then of course George Santos, the serial about truth Teller?
But what about your guy, the president? And now the
(41:14):
Republicans are on the high road, They're on their high horse,
so to speak, saying that you can't, Graham Plattner, why
would Democrats support a candidate who was accused of sexual abuse?
Speaker 1 (41:26):
And it's like, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
So there is no self awareness and irony in the
United States is dead.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
So what is the Mitch McConnell mystery? What's this about?
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Mitch McConnell, according to a number of reputable news organizations,
has been disappeared from the Senate for many weeks, and
NBC News and Politico I believe, have reported that someone
at Mitch McConnell's residence of called nine to one one.
(42:01):
The paramedics arrived, the man was on the person, unidentified
person was unconscious.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
They did CPR.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
We have not heard anything from Mitch McConnell ever since.
So today the governor of Kentucky, who should, by the way,
be on the list of presidential hopefuls, demanded that Mitch
McConnell reveal what's going on. There is a conspiracy theory
(42:30):
President Trump's one of his closest friends and influencers, Laura Loomer,
is reporting that Mitch McConnell is brain dead and will
never come back to the Senate. I want to emphasize no,
nothing is confirmed, no one knows anything, but that is
getting millions and millions of views on social media.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
But that's what happens in the vacuum. Information being passed away.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
Absolutely, and the conspiracy is that they're trying to keep
him away. Live passed a certain deadline in Kentucky to
keep Thomas Massy, Trump's nemesis from running for the seat,
because they're going to have to if he steps down
from the seat, or we hope not worse, if anything
happens to him, they're going to have to appoint somebody to.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Fill that seat.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
So it's a situation where Thomas Kane, the congressman from
New Jersey, disappeared for four months and didn't tell anybody
where he was, what he.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Was doing, what was wrong.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Here in Minnesota, we have three Minneapolis City Council members,
one of them who had one of whom has taken
a month leave of absence but they have been to
their credit. Here is what's wrong with me. Here is
what I'm trying to deal with. I don't mean what's
wrong with me. Here is the issue I am dealing with.
And here's how long it'll be gone. So if politicians
(43:52):
owe us anything, and I think they do, that is
the way to do it.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
We all have a minute left.
Speaker 5 (43:58):
Arnie Carlson, who's occasionally joined this program many times over
the years, has issued a warning to Minnesota Democrats.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
What's this about?
Speaker 4 (44:08):
Be careful, Arnie Carlson, writes, with two other prominent Minnesota
political people, says that don't be smug. Don't act like
you've got this thing one, he says to Democrats, because
of everything that's been going on, Amy Klobashar is running well,
(44:30):
have a couple of strong Democrats of candidates for US Senate.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
He says, the fraud thing is bubbling up.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
People are really dissatisfied Republicans, Democrats, independence with everybody in office.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
They're unsettled, They're.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Dissatisfied, and he says predicting fraud allegations are going to
bubble to the surface again and that will be the
main thing, and it could cause Democrats the election.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
May Arnie Carlson live forever. He's some unbelievable We got
to go.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Great material today, a lot of controversy and good luck
dealing with the kiss Army kiss all, Oh you.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Changed your mind?
Speaker 1 (45:13):
You bumper to bumper with Dan.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Quite a program today.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
We want to thank our outstanding array of guests. Jamie
Watson on the World Cup. He joined us at three
point thirty. We had Alex Lewis at about four forty
five is for fifty or so on his poll on
fan perception on the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
We've got into some other good stuff with him too.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
And Kessler in studio as always had a lot of
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