May 12, 2026 • 58 mins
Dan and Gaardsy review the Top 5 including a Wolves/Spurs Game 5 injury update before Lou Nanne joins with his thoughts on the Wild loss in Game 4 and what needs to change to extend the series starting tomorrow night.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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interesting shot, a live shot in San Antonio, davey Arina
shot they were interviewing a one of ESPN's NBA reporters
and the backdrop shot, the background shot. You just took
(00:27):
a photo of it. I don't know if you sent
it out via TWI. Yes of our guy Johnny athletic
courtside really first row of seats looking kind of bored
and disinterested next to Chris hired. Yeah, yes, tired, doesn't it. Yeah,
I hope the wolves aren't that tired tonight.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Johnny must have been up early for his flight. Yeah,
I tweeted it out. Great to see John Krazinski and
Chris Hine so hard at work and San Antonio.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
No sign of Dane dumb More's at Dane Moore NBA n.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
C Jays Fredericks there either. I wonder if you made
the trip.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
That's a good question.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
That's why Johnny and Chris, I mean they're out on
the scene, but on the ground right.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
That's very true. Davy so anyway, Yeah, Johnny looks tired.
He did, he looked a little or maybe his dabbers down.
Is he expecting the worst tonight. I haven't texted him.
I'll text him and see and I'll see if he
has any inside dope on the Spur injuries. Spurs injuries
that we talked about earlier. Two good wing players, really
great wing players. Actually, Yeah, both listed as questionable, which
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doesn't mean they're not playing right. It can mean they're
not playing.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Let's start there. Yeah, might as well. Darren Fox right
ankle soreness is listed as question well. That was on
yesterday's injury report and continued today Today. They added Dylan
Harper with left knee soreness. He is also questionable for
Game five. If you're just joining us, we mentioned, I
think late last segment that typically the head coaches will
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be meeting the media in the next thirty to forty
five minutes. The players are out there doing a lot
of their individual stuff. Intact, that's what Johnny and Chris
were probably watching. Anthony Edwards was on the court yes
getting his pregame work out done, which includes left handed
three pointers, and he makes like eighty percent of him
because he's aunt, why wouldn't he So we should maybe
get a little bit more definitive news on those two
(02:09):
guards for the San Antonio Spurs. Davy Darren Fox obviously
had a good game the other night, as did Dylan Harper.
They're both very good players, and they've been described as
game time decisions.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Game five pivotal.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Game five at seven o'clock tonight, our pregame show right
here and the fans starts at six thirty. Victor wembin
Yama will be in the lineup because he was not
suspended for Game five, which some people have a problem with.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Did he or This isn't so much a Wemby question
as a well, I forgot what the question was. We're
talking injuries. We don't have any added injuries other than
we know the Vincenzo's not available. We know Edward's time
has gone up with each game, and he seems no
worse for the wear other than a little bit winded
(02:54):
a couple of times here. This was my question. We
started Conley the last game, correct, So I would assume
we're going to start calming again tonight, didn't we or
do we not know? We started on?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I would have started the last he started the second
half of Game three.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, that's true, and then he started Game four. Yeah,
I had not perhaps taken his close a look on
the replays of the Desumu miracle catch. Yeah, I did
not realize that the ball had gone off of his
foot and he saved it off of his foot. Craze
was headed out of bounds otherwise, which would have been
(03:30):
the worst case scenario because he touched it so obviously
that would have been a turnover at that point. But yeah,
that was a that's that's a play worthy of a
wide receiver. There's no question if they win the series.
That's one we talked about. There's no question it'll be
it'll become more mythical if they find a way to
actually steal the series. You're right.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So about an hour and twenty minutes from now the
pregame show with Alan Horton, Jim Peterson, Cal Soda, Christin's
Cast of thousands six thirty and then the tip Game
five from San Antonio is seven.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That series tied it two.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Wild are down three to one after a five to
two loss last night at Grand Casino Arena. They led
one zero, they tied it laid at to two, Colorado
scored to make it three to two just a couple
of minutes later, and then a couple of empty netters
and they head to Colorado now for not pivotal game five,
Game five, trying to stave off elimination.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Here's Heinze.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Well, you know, I think there was a lot of
things that you just said. There were the truth. I
think we didn't we didn't play direct enough. But I
think the style of game that we needed to play
to win the game we didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
We didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
We made the conscious choice not to play that way tonight.
So well know, we'll we'll readdress that and then we'll
get ready for Game five, which is tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I should mention, by the way, Parker Fox and me
later tonight we are doing a Wolves Howling with the
Homies postgame show.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
If people are interested. We had fun the other night.
We're doing that again.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
But the Wild Dan could not get themselves to a
to to tie. Russo Radio said about twenty four hours
ago that if the Wild win Game four, he thinks
they're winning the series and with that they get the
buy to the Stanley Cup Final. Basically, that's the allegation
by what's going on on the other side of things.
But they did not get that victory, and apparently we're
(05:12):
not intentional about it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
No, that's what we were told by the head coach,
Louie coming up in about twenty minutes to get his
reaction to a very disappointing Game four. I'll be curious
to see if Louie puts it more on were playing
a really good team and they responded, or if he
was disappointed with the approach, if he buys what the
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head coach what Heinz said after the game. I tend
to not get quite as hung up in the approach.
I'll just say whatever the approach is that we decided
to go with, it didn't feel like we attacked the
game anywhere near as effectively as we did the previous game. Right.
Forget whether you're scoring. I'm just talking about, you know,
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seizing the actions, seizing the initiative. We didn't do that,
and I I would have thought it would be just
the opposite, even with Colorado clearly wanting to play better
after what they did in Game three, and I thought
maybe the problem for the while would be you get
you're almost too buzzed, and you got to set yourself down.
(06:19):
But I was the most disappointing part to me was
they we just didn't. We didn't seem to whatever, whether
it's the same, not not using the same style, using
Game three, not playing as heavy, whatever you want to use.
All I saw is they looked a lot busier than
we did early in the game, and I thought that
set the tone, even though I mean, we're we tied
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it briefly, at least even in the third period, right,
we came back and it was two two, But let's
be clear, I mean, I think it's fair to say
that would have been a romp above and beyond the
empty net goals if not for the goaltending of the Volston. Right.
(07:01):
I believe through much of it well, he was keeping
them even in position where they had a chance to
stay in the game, and their new guy made some
big saves too. He did.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, he and the Wild had some great opportunities. They
were few and far between, but they had some great opportunities,
and I thought he played well.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I agree totally.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
So that Game five is tomorrow night. Derek Shelton and
the Minnesota Twins. One night after being blamed for a
lackluster Wild performance because of how they presented. Let's play
Hockey are back at action against the Miami Marlins. The
Twins dan just three games out of first place in
the American League Central. Still, yeah, there's four teams in
front of them, but they are separated by only three games.
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Bailey ober on the mound tonight at target Field. Beautiful
night for a game, it is. If you're not going
to watch Wolves Spurs game five.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Also Frost our schedule to play in our game five
in Montreal tonight. It's still inexplicable to me that the
game was not played last night. It's a remind me
to get to a couple of interesting texts I had
on that I hope I can find them or if
I saved them. If I didn't save them, that was
a mistake. I the explanations are very feeble on the
(08:14):
decision to not play that game last night. It and
what will be interesting is if Montreal wins tonight, it
will be viewed as among the conspiracy types as tainted, right, totally,
no question, it's moot. If the if the Frost win
that it'll become moot. Anyway, it'll be almost Okay, Well
(08:35):
you did what you could with some chickenery, but it
didn't matter. But if it goes the other way, and
this is a decisive game, uh, this is the game
that determines who moves on to the to the next,
to the finals. Uh, then you're going to get an
awful lot of that. The whole approach has been way
too mysterious. It has, and that always contributes to what
conspiracies and suspicion that you were just sort of trying
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to protect one team or even protect your product in
its relative infancy. And that's a bad look. It doesn't
it would not happen in any other sport.
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Uh. I'm trying to get rebooted on the branch on
Brand Champion text line, and then my my iPad was
out of juice. I try to re establish the juice
there and the cords not long enough to come up
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to the console here. I gotta get I got the
microphone going, so we'll get to the text line in
just a minute. If you have text for Louis, we'll
definitely get the system back in order by the time
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f A n A text line. By the way, this
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late report from Johnny Athletic via text. He notes that
Harper was just out warming up and he thought he
was good to go. That it's been nothing official, but
he didn't see anything in the workout to indicate that
he was not going to be able to go. Said
he was unsure on on Fox, but he also thinks
Harper's been better than Fox. I still I know you've
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always loved Fox. I he hasn't always shot well in
this series, but he's a shot maker and he can
and he he's still to me, still dangerous. As I said,
there are people who already think that Harper is their
best player, which is a little scary. But I think
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if even one of them is out, that's to the
Wolves advantage. Even if Fox has not been perhaps as
great as he often can't, as good as he can be, yep,
I still think he's a little on the dangerous side.
So from my standpoint, I'd rather I mean, it's a
game of numbers with them, and they come out come
at you with so many good wing people they do
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if you have one less. Now, on the other hand,
if you say, well no, then all it means is
that Harper is going to play more, and if he's
playing really well, that actually hurts the Wolves compared to Fox.
I don't know, we can overthink it. Johnny gives me
no indication that we will go with the goon strategy tonight.
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I'm not surprised there's not going to be a designated
enforcer who goes out there. But if it was Mike
Conley getting his first career technical foul, well, the funniest
thing is to watch the replay of Conley's reaction to
the elbow, where he looked hard. He looked like like hey,
like what's going on here? Which I thought was that
would be remarkable if he finally got a technical. I
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frankly am curious to see what kind of game nods
just he has in general, and you know, so where
he fits to this thing. I don't think he's an
enforcer kind of a player. No, But I don't think,
as I said that, the message to me that that
has to be conveyed from the coaches is let's not
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be stupid, let's not listen to day day. We want
to win the game and we want to win the series.
But you also can't anticipate well, you know, be real
careful on how you guard him because they're going to
be probably calling it closer. I don't think you can
approach the game that way. You may have to adjust.
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And I don't think in any of the officials named,
I'm not sure how much of a rep the names.
I can't remember who's officiating, it's already been determined. They're
not I don't think any of our usual arch enemies
that we assume are against us. But I don't know
what the reputation is of the three in terms of
how closely the game is called, because I honestly do
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believe in this series that it works the Wolves advantage
if refs let more stuff go on and more generally
beyond just the nonsense. I'm just curious to see how
nas Reed plays in this game as the guy who
was who took the hit.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, he played well after I thought he did, yeas
what was the ordered?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
It was the ankle injury first and then the throat
he limped off once. Uh wasn't that the same game? Yeah?
I think that was after. You think the ankle was
after because he left for a while. If you were
a caall he went to the locker room. Yes, I'm
pretty sure that was after and then came back. So
I mean he he did the routine pretty good. John
(15:02):
going back? Is it? Goobel? Yeah? Ben Taylor, Carl Lane
are your s? Those names don't mean anything. They might
mean something to NBA veterans like Johnny, I'm not. I'm
not sure, but it the the I agree with double
T that tonight, the challenge is to not get behind
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twenty to five, and I would say at any point
you can't. I worry that once it gets to fifteen
or twenty in this game, then it's gonna end up
being bloody again like it was in Game two. So
you got it. I think you got to stay within reason,
You got to hang and it's the classic. The longer
the game goes on, the more maybe you gain some confidence,
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and the more doubt is putting their head. It's got
to be. I don't think it's a kind of game.
I know, and against Denver in Game seven a couple
of years ago, we did that. We were down nineteen,
we came back and you were there and we won
the damn yep. I don't think we can count on
that at all. I don't think. I think it's a
dangerous way to play. You got I think you got
to stay with them and pretty much throughout. And we've
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had two terrible starts, right, the two home games. We
had two terrible starts, correct, the last two. Yeah, three
was way worse. Three was absolutely but they neither one
of them was very encouraging. No, And I don't think
you can keep doing that. I guess what I'm saying,
particularly on the road, even if it's just you know,
we'll get back to it's a long game and all that.
I don't think you want to get into that kind
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of thing. We're playing catch up the whole way, and
expending that kind of energy makes it harder for the
coach to make decisions on giving people proper rest all
that kind of good stuff. So just stay with them,
you know, And it doesn't mean you have to be
ahead the whole game, but just stay with him and
have a chance in the fourth quarter, and.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Don't be annoyed that Wemby is playing tonight. I could
see us doing that too, like saying all the right
things that we knew he wasn't going to be suspended.
We played for him to not be suspended, but then
get out there and let the fact that he didn't
get suspended. If he has a couple of blocks early
or you get called for a couple of.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Fouls, you can't wallow in that. You can't. That's why
we're with the whole house.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Nas gonna play I hope not his plays with a
clear mind, because he doesn't need anything else in there.
Right when he's frustrated about stuff, he gets very easily distracted.
A lot of guys do. That's why this team has
been such a roller coaster throughout the regular season. But
that's the thing to watch early is how are they
gonna call the first time you put a forearm in
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Wemby's back that they maybe haven't called for the first
four games, And how do you respond to that because
you know they're gonna I just have a feeling they're
going to. And if they don't, the crowd in San Antonio, Dave,
He's going to be all over the officials there and
then human nature creeps in. So don't let that wem
be part of it. Puts you in a bad headspace either.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Does it? Are you encourage at all that the spread
has moved in our direction by two points? Has it? Yeah?
Now some of that might be well that's too many points, right,
and and people, I'll take some of that money. I
don't know. Listened, I've seen nine and a half from
eleven and a half, but there there are others where
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it might be eight and a half. I don't I'm
not I'm not sure. I do not expect them to
get blown out tonight. I I don't think it's going
to be like Game two. I will be I will
be very surprised if if it is, and I and
I know that there's also a chance that you know
Wemby goes off, there's no doubt, but you cannot. The
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one thing you can't play is timid against him. You
you almost have to test the refs. And I don't
mean by by hitting him cheaply. I just mean by
being physical with him, by knocking him around a bit,
by trying to get him off of his space. Given
how how slender he is that I think that's not
any kind of there's nothing dirty about that. That's part
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of what you have to do.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
If it turns out they're overreacting the refts and they're
calling everything, you have to adjust to it at some
point because you can't follow everybody out. But I think
you have to play that out honestly and say we're
not really apologizing for anything that we have done to
this point. So we'll have to see a lot of
good uh Louie texts already coming in. So let's stay
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on schedule. We'll pause here and we'll talk. Puk will
get Loui's reaction to a disappointing game for for the Wild.
They now find themselves down three games to one, heading
back to Denver for a game tomorrow night, which you
can hear on the fan. We'll chat with Louie next we.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Sneaks around the world.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
In the world.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Many brought his good friends at camps as always, Louis
joined us via the Connectico Water Systems hotline.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Louis, what happened in game four?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Then? I've been trying to analyze this. Why are sports
have hazardous? To your help, we stop and think about it.
I've been trying to figure this out. Why do we care,
why DoD why do we get so involved?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Why does why do we invest.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Individuals so much? I mean, I'm trying to find out
why I get so upset or frustrated? Why should I
feel this way?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
We?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You know, we just didn't play the type of game
we should have been playing. Hey, we forgot that you
need to puck the win the game.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
You take a look at some of the parts, especially
in the second period and parts of the third, where
we just didn't at the puck. They were in the
wild zone for extended periods of time. We weren't getting turnovers,
we weren't winning the puck battles along the boards. Our
gaps coming through the neutral zone were not good. They
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were turning our defensement sometime with speed coming on the zone.
And and the odd part about it was that was
the game the Weld really should have won. The way
Wallstead played that game, You're thinking, you know, all we
need is a couple of chances, and their goalie did
play well when we did get some chances, but we
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should had far more chances. We should have been handling
and keeping the puck like they did. If you look
at puck possession time in that game, you know, I
don't have any statues, I don't look at it, but
all you need is the eye. Just look at the
game and think, are we ever going to have that puck?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Very well said. We were talking at the at the
start of the program about the comments from Heinze after
the game, and I've you know, I've covered and listened
to and paid attention to and watched a lot of
playoff series in several sports, and I've heard coaches after
losses ripped their team, praised their team, encouraged their team
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a lot of different strategies. I'm not sure I ever
remember hearing the comments that came out of Heinze's mouth
last night. His direct quote was, I think the style
of game that we needed to play to win the game,
we made the conscious choice not to play that way tonight.
It sounds so odd when he puts it that way.
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What do you think he means.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Well, there's no doubt he means that they didn't play
the way they played the game before as far as
checking for checking, you know, winning battles and keeping the pockets.
It's more like we were as focused our direct on
our checking as we should have been, and we started
maybe playing too cute. You know. One of the things
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I'm sure he's referring to is how many times is
a wild turn the puck over at the opposition blue line,
rather than getting deep the turnover as a transition coming
the other way. The worst was to watch the power play.
I mean I finally just got up and started walking
around the room screaming he couldn't get the pucket the zone. Yeah, plate,
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just throw it in there and we'll get it if
you can't get it in. But we when we were
looking at that game and you're seeing how many rushes,
I think it was a minute I looked at I
think it was a minute and fifty two seconds, and
essentially on one power play, we had no puck control
on their zone, and we had so many turnovers at
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the blue line, and you know, dump backs and actually
they'd come down and you know, throw the puck down
and for check and kill some seconds and he would
come up with the puck every now and then. It just
for some reason, it was so different from the game before.
And like I said, and you say, why do I care?
Why don't we get so frustrated? Why do I feel
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this way? It's it's the game. It's their game, not
our game. But you get to so it evolved in
it and the frustrated with the way the way you
see the game before, and then you see the way
the you know, there were long stretches of times you're
in that second period and then the third after it
got tied up where you're expecting a big comeback and
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it doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Well, the part that that that I thought was different,
he said conscious choice, almost as if he was suggesting
that that his players deliberately decided, no, we don't care
how we won Game three, We're going to win this
game a different way. That's what sounded so odd to me, you.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Know, And I don't whether you said that or not.
I'm sure he didn't meet it, you know. It's it's
just like saying, well, we know we were supposed to
play the different ways in the conscious choice, but a
lot of times when you're playing the game, you don't
realize you're playing a differentlys you played before, you know,
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and sometimes by being overhyped being so excited, you know,
I'm sure they came out last night with a feeling
that they're going to duplicate the kind of game they
had game before, not knowing that they're getting away from
the style that they played the game before. But they
definitely weren't going to consciously and they want to win
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as much or more than anybody else. But it didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Peace and Love guy, rights will please ask mister Nanny
why in this last game the AVS players always seem
to be in the wild zone collecting the wild outlet
clearing attempts. Were they more aggressive in putting more app
players in the wild defensive zone? Did they know the
wild game plan? And how smart them? That's from Peace
and Love.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Guy, Yeah, I don't think they're smarter than they You
know how the team's going to play. It's just that
they they were winning the battles on the boards. They
were the passing of the Wild was not good. And
if you make bad passing your own zone, you're just
off a little bit. You're turning over pucks in your
own zone and they're constant there. I can't tell you
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how many turnovers are happening in that zone if you
look at if you look at the lines, the third
and fourth line, so called third and fourth line of
the Wild were the most effective line because they were
winning battles all over the ice, and they were, you know,
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they were giving a spark every now and then because
their ford checking property coming up with bucks, they are
taking the body back there. It was it was the
first and second line that it seemed to be too cute.
Not getting bucks out definitely when they've always been able
to do it, Not getting in the zone when they've
been able to do it, not getting opportunities when they
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get in the zone like they would. It was just
one of those games where you see nothing is going
right for them. It's just gone happening unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
True. A lot of good texts are coming in. How
about this one? This is from Mark Louis. I believe
the turning point of the game is when Trenyon closed
his hand in the puck, which was avoidable. Once they
scored that power play goal, they got the momentum they
were looking for.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
That was a big point, and that was I could
not I could not believe that happened. From when you're
a little kid, you know, you could not close your
hand in the puck. And not only just close your hand,
but now it looked like he's almost having a game.
He's going to throw it one way, to throw it
another way, he's still had the puck and then drop behind.
(27:53):
That was really surprising me. I have no idea what
he could have been thinking at that time. And you know,
every time you give them a par play, you're given
opportunities for them to get into their game. And and
that that was That was big. That was a major
point in the game.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Okay, so the fact is they're down three games to one.
They can't wallow in it. It's a difficult road. It's
very difficult road. Now for all the obvious reasons. What's
the approach? I mean, I know it's always one game.
You can't think of winning three because you can't win
three until you win one. But what's the answer?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
What?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
What? What? What gives the while the best chance to
carry this thing forward a little bit?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I think the fact that they did not play very
well this last game, I'm expected to play a real
good game to worn. I think they're going to come
out and give it a terrific effort tomorrow. I don't
know how the game is going to end up, but
I do I do really believe they have a chance
to win tomorrow night, because I I don't see them
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wallow in their misery of losing that game last night.
I look, I think this is really a determined group
of guys, and they play like a determined group of guys.
I expect them, and you know, the leadership is going
to come from Felino brothers for sure, and mcaren because
they're going to start that game with bashing bodies around,
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and I just think that I think they're gonna give
a real good account of themselves tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Well, obviously there's no margin for error at at this point.
That that parts for sure. How much of this you
know when a game turns the way, you know, the
dramatic differences between games three and four. How much of
this in our myopia for you know, paying attention to
the wild side of it. How much of this has
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to do with the fact, again that they're good, they're
they're they're a very good team, and so they might
have something to do with the fact that the Wild
didn't play the same way they did in game three.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
They had a lot to do that. That's great. What
you said is just exactly what happened. They came out
and they were going to show that they were a
terrific team, and you could see it in the way
they were handling the puck and the places you were making.
They were playing with a confident air throughout the whole game,
even when it got close. They maintained their confidence with
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the puck, skating with the puck, getting in proper positions.
They played like a team is supposed to play. They
played like the best team that in the league is
supposed to play. They you know, you could take some
stuff with it away from the Wild, say they didn't
do this and that, But a big reason is because
Colorado wasn't letting them have the puck. Colorado was a movie. Continually,
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they were getting in open spots, they were greening opportunities
for themselves by making the right growth, and they were
sharp passing the puck. They were quick and the other
of the zone. A lot of what happened to the
Wild you'd say they didn't play. Yeah, they played consciously
the wrong ways because Colorado made him play that way
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a lot. A lot of times. They defended so well
that they didn't give it the Wild opportunity of the
puck control that they had in the wild zone is it.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
You know, a lot of what we talked about after
game three, well even going into the game three was
that the Wild need to play excuse me, heavier, and
I think you defined in your mind what that means
in terms of the right kind of checking and physicality,
not checking for the sake of checking, but strategic checking.
The contributed to victory. So using that, I mean, did
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did we not play quote unquote as heavy in game four?
Did that have much to do with it?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Well, it's a third and fourth line certainly did that
when they had the kind of success the averager in
the game. If you were to grade the lines there,
the third and fourth lines were better in the first
and second line.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
The second line, with you know boldy joants and then
Europe was the weakest line for because of how many
times they turned the puck over and and and not
only that, didn't get out of the zone. They had
pucks to get out of his zone and didn't get
opportunities in the zone because they made some bad passes.
And it's you know, you want to play a heavy game,
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but if you're going to play a heavy game, you
got to get to the guy to play the heavy game.
And Colorado's moving that buck so quickly most of the
time that even though the while we're taking they were
taking bodies when they had the chance, many times didn't
get the chance to get to the body because the
puck was gone so fast.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
What is your philosophy on I think you can speak
to this even though the sport is basketball. So as
you know, in the previous game, when by Yama gets
ejected for a vicious elbow shot to nas Red, it's
a it's a clinical, it's a textbook you know injection.
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There's no question about that. It's a flagrant too. That
was I think the easy decision it had to be made.
There was no further suspension, there was no fine, but
there's the question of what does the team that's that's
victimized by that kind of cheap shot, what is it
obligated to do in order to sort of keep you know,
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its pride so to speak. This is what we're told
all the time. Draymond Green has already said, well, what
the Wolves have to do is they got to hit
They got to hit Wemby with an elbow in this game,
same way, because you have to stand up for yourself. Now,
in hockey, there's a whole etiquette on this stuff, and
you and I have talked about it over the years,
But how do you thread the needle Louis on making
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your point physically that you're not backing down and not
losing your composure to a point that you win that
battle but have a better chance of losing the war
as in losing the game.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Well, I think dreamind Green should have to McCarran play
because McCarron took a bad butt into the face, which
was that was a brutal non call. Mansion should have
been out of the game. That should have been a
five in a game mis conduct, and they used the
thing that they weren't sure that he hit him. But
the where do you think that, where do you think that?
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But it went I mean that was ludicrous. And then
a lot of people are making fun of it on
Twitter right now that they didn't make the call. But
mceren didn't let that stop him and he didn't go
to play stupid, but he took He was physical when
he got the opportunity to be physical.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
But he was.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Physical in a clean way. For Greed to say, well
he got to give an elbow or something. Hey, the
big you have. You always remember that the prize is winning.
You can't even afford a little penalty or a little
you know, extra foul just to get pride the playoffs.
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We always used to say, just get a number, remember
for next season exactly. You don't try and extract upon
the flesh during the playoff game. But it's not never
worth it, never worth it. You have to accept whatever
you get, whether it's a cheap shot or a good shot,
whatever it is. You have to play to win, and
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the only way you play to win is by maintaining
your focus on doing the proper things to win. And
the proper things are making sure you don't get needless penalties,
stupid pedalies that are going to cost you, or even
you take yourself on a position by taking an extra
run of the guy when he's already gone to bucks gone,
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you know, you might get caught. The end game is
winning the game, and that means you sacrifice whatever you
have to sacrifice to win the game.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
It's such an important distinction, and I think you and
nature being what it is, sometimes it's hard for some
players to understand that in the in the heat of
the of that emotion and this notion of you're not
going to get me. I think, you know, that's what
separates the brainiest players from those who don't always succeed
in that situation.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I agree with that, but I want to I want
to point out that hockey has really somehow got that
message true to the majority of the players. I don't
seen ninety percent of the players. You look at the
hockey playoffs right now and look at the shots that
guys are taking, and and just remember during the regular season,
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what are you going to fight every two games or something,
and how many we haven't seen any fights in the
whole playoffs. Guys take it. They know they can't do that.
They know that the most important thing is not penalizing
your team, by your selfishness, by trying to get even
with a guy or a guy or you know, we
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illegally when you shouldn't be doing that. Players are really
getting so conditioned to accepting whatever they get and and
not reacting the way that they would during a regular season.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah, that's that's a that's a great, that's that's true.
There is less of it, I think, uh than there
than there once was. That's that's for certain. In terms
of the goaltending, is it fair to say that without
Bolstad playing as well as he did, it wouldn't have
even been as close as it was, and it wasn't
all that close in the end.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, well said did make a difference to the score,
that's for sure. He easily had a number of way
more chances to stop than Colorado's goaltender, and and quality
stops too. I mean, you know, you were almost nineteen
minutes for shot.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
That's a long time.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
That's unheard of, and especially during that period of time,
he had some power plays. You know, you think you're
gonna get a shot. I know there's one power play
I don't know. Not only did they not get a shot,
I don't think they got an intent to a shot,
which was something that that's where the Wild got to
be much much more effective than they were, and they
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got to win the draws at those times. They were
good winning draws, moll you know a lot of times
through the game. But they did lose someone on the
power play went right away, you know, not twenty twenty
five seconds off by getting the puck down the ice.
You gotta go back and bring it back up. And
when that happened, a few of those times you weren't
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even able to get into the zone.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
What do you make. I don't know how closely you've
been following this story, but The Frost was supposed to
play Montreal yesterday in the decisive Game five of their
best of five series. The game gets postponed till tonight,
allegedly because there are too many ill players on the
Montreal side, and there was a feeling that there was
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like a health decision made that they didn't want to
expose I guess players and the other team to I
think it's basically some kind of intestinal flu. Right, It's
not covid, it's not the haunt of virus. It's just
a sort of bad intestinal stuff. I you know, thought yesterday,
and I've heard nothing to change my view on this,
that they had to play the game yesterday, that it's
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unfortunate for Montreal, but if you have enough players, and
a couple of the reporters indicated their best players probably
wouldn't have been available, but they did have enough players
that you got to play the game. I just don't
think there's much precedent for making that decision and playing
the game tonight. Do you know anything about it? Do
you what do you make of it?
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Well? I know one thing, I've never heard of that
happening before without something being really a crucial right right,
maybe contingent, yes, just type of thickness, and that's why
I was very surprised at it. But you know, the
one thing you look at, the women's games are being
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affected by the schedule of course, and being able to
get in buildings. Yes, yes, they've been a little not lacked,
but they've been a little more flexible when they had
to play their games and when they're going to play
in both. They had the same thing happening in Montreal
this past weekend when Gretson Biddy's team was playing Level
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in the fifth and deciding game in Quebec in Montreal
and Montreal is both you know, going to play Saturday night,
so they postponed the game that level was playing, made
them play Sunday afternoon, and just because they didn't want
to have competition between the farm team and then not
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that they would have sold the tickets, but they wanted
them both to get the exposure. So the miners in
the women's maybe they got more flexibility to move than
than the NHL teams.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Well, my hope is we'll have another chance to talk
that this thing will still be moving and the while
we'll find a way to make it to make it interesting.
We'll know more about that after tomorrow night. Right.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Well, I'm I'm keeping you know, I'm getting this funny
feeling I can get some confidence here. I'm just I'm
I'm thinking that they're gonna come up with a real
good effort, whether they want or not. But I think
that I really like this team that they that's the
best team the Walls ever had, and there's so much
fun to watch, and you hate to see them, you know,
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go down on the type of effort that they're not
accustomed to.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Thank you, Luigi, great stuff. As always, we will chat maybe.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Sunday sounds good. Thank you, Thanks lou.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
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Have a chance for some texts in our final half
hour related really to what took place last night at
the arena formerly known as the Acts and what you
might expect tonight in San Antonio Davy Wolves Spurs game
number five with a chance for the Wolves, who I
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think really shocked the NBA world if they could, they could,
they could steal another game there and come back here
with a chance to knock out the Spurs under very
unlikely circumstances. So any thoughts on either of those. What
took place last night on the hockey side, what my
plate take place tonight on the hoop side? Let us know.
We've got some texts on Jack Douglas, the former John
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Lennon record producer that we owed it earlier in the show.
He has passed away former guest of the Bumper Bumper Show.
We may explore some of those as well. Back in
just a minute here in the fan.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
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Speaker 2 (42:47):
Thursday is National Football League official schedule release. Correct, there
are already some games that have been leaked. Have any
of the games involving our club yet been leaked? I
don't believe. So well, are you familiar with Bonesaw? No,
Bonesaw's got our schedule? Really? Yeah? So I'm gonna go
ahead and give it to you, okay, and then we're
gonna check to see how accurate Bonesaw ends up being.
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Maybe Bonesaw have the best sources ever, and he'll he will.
We'll give him proper credit for being way ahead of it.
Is Bonesaw another one of Mark Rosen's cats, because he
might have.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yeah, not sure? Or maybe he knows Mark Rosen's cat.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Are you ready? I don't even know. I guess the
test is I don't even know what divisions we play,
if it makes sense we're playing these teams at all.
But here's what Bonesaw has. We open against the Carolina Panthers,
and then we're at New Orleans to take on the Saints.
Then we're at Green Bay for Thursday Night football. Then
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we've got the Bills. Then we're at Tampa Bay, Tampa
Bay on Sunday night, football. Then we got the Commanders
at Bears, host the Packers at Jets, Dolphins, Colts, and
we played the Lions on Thanksgiving. We will obviously be
there at Patriots a bye in week fifteen, then at
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San Francisco, and then we host the Lions on Monday
Night football. And we finished with the Falcons and the
Bears at home.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Now do we know who we're playing? And that's I
think so. So that's the Bone Saw schedule. We'll find
out if he did you say the Bills broke the internet? Yeah,
he has us playing the Bills week one, two, three, four,
we host the Bills.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Wow. Yeah, So there you have it. Bone Saw will
find out if that's an alias for somebody who's got
inside information. But Thursday's the official night, right Thursday night,
and usually Thursday Day, there's some leakage, and there's already
been leakage. I think the first game of the season,
which bores me, is a Thursday night game between the
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Cowboys and the Giants. Oh my god. Yeah, it's just
so hideous, it's so predictable. But I believe that one
has been leaked already. But yeah, they announced those like yeah, big, yeah.
They go on the Today's Show or they go on
whatever and they announce all of them. Yeah, so interesting,
interesting early. Yeah, so we got we got Thanksgiving against
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the Lions there obviously, mm hmm. We got a Sunday
night game against the Bucks there. Funny if that's the
whole schedule. I know, a Monday night game against the
Lions late.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
They are so tight about it now, the league, Yeah,
they hate these leaks, but the leaks happen all the time.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I wonder who Bonesaw really is. We'll save his number?
Is it some search and do some sleuthin well serry
code four two five?
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Where is that four to five? That could be a
burner though, that's true. If it's if he's a good
source source, it.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Might be a burner. Yeah, very possibly it's a burner.
I don't know for sure, but I always am intrigued
by because we get these every year, a couple of
days early. And I will say, like, if you go
on the internet, even on relatively respectable sites, there are
people offering predictions of the schedule. They're not They don't
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even say we got inside information. We're just gonna have
fun with it and predict it. Now, is Bonesaw doing that?
Or does bon Saw have some source, some impeccable source
in New York.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
It'd be a heck of a story because the four
two five area code is basically Seattle. It's the northern
and eastern suburbs of Seattle.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Maybe it's Tice. No, I think Tyson moved again, although
his phone could still be that number. Yeah, Tyson is
in Vegas. Isn't Vegas? I think he's in Vegas? Now, Yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
We need to circle back with Tyson's kid Nate.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Well, yeah, you've tried, and Caesar said, than done, isn't it. Yeah,
this might be a slow time. And he's a Wolves
fan too.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
It's more to talk about the Wolves huge because you're
up here.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Yeah, that's he's one of us. That's very true, Davy,
you're right about that.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Let me say it is stupid how much you know
this that I.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
I love the schedule release day. It's hard not to
be in Toxic but it even I I grant you,
it's the it's the only league that can do that, right.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
Yes, I mean I like all the schedules, like I
wait for the Timberwolf schedule. I don't know why again,
because I just like having things to look forward to.
I guess I always looked for, you know, the Gopher
basketball schedules. They had like a Big Ten opponent release
thing today. The Big Ten did for the men on
who your double plays are and what where your home
and roads are going. They don't have it for the
women yet. So I don't know where I'm going, but
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I love.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
That Dan Minnesota, Oh, I say, he's got a schedule leak.
He has learned that the Purple will play Green Bay, Chicago,
and Detroit twice each this season. Well that's nice, but
you ain't. You ain't threatening bone Saw's position right now
when it comes to the schedule leaks, the stories, the stadiums,
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he's gotten a lot more specific. Uh so we got
a hold on I took a picture of it, so
we'll hold on to that and see how accurate that
ends up being. That's great. We may hope it's like
right on the money. It would crack me up to now. Yeah,
on Thursday night on the fan, No, not on the fan?
Is it on the fan?
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Abba, it's going to be mad. I can't remember. I
think it's on the fan. I know it's on something
on one of our verticals. Why are we doing a show. Yes,
I'm one of our play but it's not.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
On the fan. So in the past it's been on
the fan, it's usually been Nordo, hasn't been Nordo and
Sauce usually after us.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
But this year it's going to be the voice of
the Vikings Paul Allen with Pete Bersich and Ben Lieber.
It's the triumvir and it's the Vikings Audio Network broadcast team.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Well Brad. To that end, Brad from Mendota Heights Rights
Kfan has been playing an ad all day for the
schedule reveal show seven pm Thursday night. There it is
hosted by Paul, Pete and Ben. There you go, and
now I don't have to listen. We just did it.
We just did it. Sorry, we didn't analyze it. I
grant you that point. I haven't sat there to look
at Okay, what's the easy part, what's the soft part? Well,
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let's look at it again. Just for kicks.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
We might as well should have boom. You should have
done a boom before.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
The Panthers they're not well. I can't remember where they getting.
Were they up and coming? Were they were a little
better this last year? Weren't they Q. Yeah, at Saint
we should be two and oh, Panthers here at Saint
should be to and oh at Green Bay two and one.
I don't want to do that game. Buffalo, Tampa Bay,
Tampa Bay. And that's at Tampa Bay. Then the Commanders,
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then the Bears. Then the where's the easy part? At
Jets first two week nine, at Jets Week ten, Dolphins
Week eleven, Colts that could be a stretch to get stretch,
and then at Lions on Thanksgiving at Patriots, this doesn't
seem that easy. Well, that's why we we blew it
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winning those games late.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
I think that stretch you just mentioned the Patriots that
the Lions.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm not convinced on the Lions.
Oh you're not. You've turned on them.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
I haven't turned on them, but I don't They're out
the Lions three years ago.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Jets, Dolphins, Colts, Lions. We got to the Super Bowl
last year, didn't they. Yeah, I'm not buying it, buying it.
Their schedule is harder now. Yeah. And then at forty
nine Ers and Lions. Uh. Then we finished with the
Falcons and the Bears, and I don't even know if
the Bears are going to be It's it's very difficult
to say at this point do we n J.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
McCarthy's going to be ready to go for that five
game stretch after Kyler ur gets hurt.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
We'll probably get back to it once we get through
our winter sports teams here. However long they stay in it,
and it may not be that much longer. In either case,
it could it could come to a screeching hault quickly. Unfortunately,
that's the way it works in the postseason. It can
be a very abrupt finish, but it's still they're still
in it to very to two different degrees, I think,
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but I keep reading and I and I think it
was dot Com Tom among others, basically saying the plan
from the organization is absolutely killer quarterback petition in training camp,
and that nothing has been decided. I don't know if
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I can believe it. I would prefer it, I really would.
I I don't think despite the fact that he's been
a starter for seven years, I think that the new
guy from Arizona, what's his name, Kyler Murray, Kyler Murray,
is so untouchable that well, if you bring him in,
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you have to you know, you've got to have the job.
I think I never thought he had that much leverage
to tell you the truth. Will you say you want
to come and can be for the job. Fine? I
would prefer it an old fashion. How long has it
been since we've had a good, old fashioned training camp
quarterback competition that's wide open? What's wrong with that? We
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love it at other positions. Why can't think how much
fun that would be when we're at the training camp
perch yeh see daily battle. I look at it differently, though.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
I think you only have a quarterback competition if you
don't really have a quarterback. Most teams know who their
starter is.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Well, we don't know. I know you have a quarterback.
That's the truth of it, I understand. But maybe this
brings out the baby JJ. You know, he just puts
his foot down and plants his feet and works his
ass off and comes back and you don't even recognize him.
I think he doesn't even recognize nine. I think that's
what they're hoping for. That probably is.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
I think that's why they're hoping for that. But most
teams that are good don't have to do that. That's
the problem.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
You're right about that, all right, let's get to wrapping
up the program. A couple final injury reports out of
San Antonio, Davey, and maybe some final thoughts on the
Wolves game five tonight, and more tragedy in the sports
world as well, which we've not explored. We'll give you
details too when we come back. Bumper to bumper. Thank
you double T who joined us at four h two
today and Luigi at five thirty, so we got a
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basketball playoff fix and a hockey fix as well from Luigi.
Although Luigi even got in on the WEMBI discussion when
I gave him the opportunity to do so, and I
think he subscribes to our philosophy, which is, don't worry
so much about winning the macho pride battle of firing back,
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fire back by winning, and if you can, along the way,
be physical with the player that was over the line
with your player. Yeah, I get that. That's all I
think fair in love and war, that kind of thing.
So we appreciate their contributions as always. The sad news
breaking on the NBA front that Brandon Clark has died
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at the age of twenty nine years old. Pronounced dead
shortly after five pm Monday, he is, of course, a
member of the Memphis Grizzlies. His death is being investigated
as a potential overdose. According to a Los Angeles news station.
For the record, he had been arrested last month for
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speeding and drug possession in Arkansas. Not a lot of
other details on this particular a tragedy. A six to
seven veteran forward, he played his entire career in Memphis,
he suffered a season ending injury during a game in
December after sustaining a right calf strain. So very sad
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news there. And additionally, Jason Collins saw that the first
openly gay NBA player has died of brain cancer at
the age of forty seven years old. His family said
earlier today he had been diagnosed with stage four cancer,
one of the deadliest forms of brain cancer. Had even
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tried some experimental treatments in Singapore this past winner that
were not yet authorized in the United States. It did
allow him to return home. He had attended NBA All
Star weekend events in Los Angeles and a game in
his alma mater at Stanford, according to Ramona Shelbourne via
ESPN dot com, But horrible news there. He retired in
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twenty fourteen, a thirteen year career that included stops with
the Nets, Memphis, Minnesota. I don't remember him here, do
you do? You have vague? Vague yeah, Atlanta, Boston, Washington
to return to the Jets. I should see to the
Nets after they moved to Brooklyn. So very sad stories there.
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I don't have any new information on who's in and
who's out for san Antonio Davy tonight. They've had two
players listen as questionable today, and that's both Fox, Darren
Fox and Dylan Harper. Dylan Harper was brilliant in the
last game here. You know, if if they'd have stolen
the game, he'd have been largely the reason why he
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had twenty four points. I think he only took ten
shots at twenty four points points, got to the free
throw line, He seemed to get wherever he wanted, whenever
he wanted, and.
Speaker 3 (55:52):
Took in transition that one time kind of yes, got
rid of him in the lane.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
That was really what daunting about san Antonio is not
just Wemby, Frankly, it's him. The idea of how young
he is a further reason to want to try to,
you know, petition to get to the Eastern Conference at
some point very soon. Oklahoma City is waiting in the wings.
They're gonna have to wait like two weeks because they swept.
They've swept both of their first two series, right they
are eight, and they sure have. They took care of
(56:17):
the injured, flawed Los Angeles Lakers of Anaheim last night,
So they'll just be waiting in the wings. And the Wolves,
I'm sure, will hope to upset the NBA. I guess hierarchy,
which is we want or you know, they'll be anger. Well,
(56:38):
there will be celebration of their toughness if they find
a way to do it, because I do think they're
gaining fans around the country to that extent this whole story.
But people are be mad if they're not perceived as
a team who might best threaten Oklahoma City in their
attempts to win their second in a row. But again,
(56:59):
we've talked about this a lot. I don't know how
long this is going to go. But what I love
about even the Wemby controversy is exactly what I love
and what I said about why I prefer best of
seven series to best of one, even in the big dance,
because you never know what's coming you couldn't have chronicled
or predicted right, and the game number four, Wemby considered
(57:24):
to that extent rather mild manner no history, ends up
doing what he does. I thought about it all night
at game four, and it leads to then, okay, should
he get suspended? Should there be all these story angles
that at least give us stuff to bounce off of
and have fun with that are there? That's why Best
of seven series are so are so I think unique
(57:47):
and attractive for shows like Hours because one story builds
on another. And now Best of three. Who knows? There
are people who expect San Antonio to win by thirty tonight,
they really are, And there are people who expect Wemby
to score sixty and bring down twenty rebounds and block
(58:08):
twelve shots. That might well be the case, but I'll
say what I said earlier. Anybody who goes with the
that's Wemby exacting revenge has kind of missed the thread
and missed the boat right, because it's nas reed who
should be exacting revenge. Wemby got not thrown out of
a game because of his own behavior, and the league
(58:29):
spared him anything else. So if he's angry. It should
be about letting down his own team, not that the
league did
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shot they were interviewing a one of ESPN's NBA reporters
and the backdrop shot, the background shot. You just took
(00:27):
a photo of it. I don't know if you sent
it out via TWI. Yes of our guy Johnny athletic
courtside really first row of seats looking kind of bored
and disinterested next to Chris hired. Yeah, yes, tired, doesn't it. Yeah,
I hope the wolves aren't that tired tonight.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Johnny must have been up early for his flight. Yeah,
I tweeted it out. Great to see John Krazinski and
Chris Hine so hard at work and San Antonio.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
No sign of Dane dumb More's at Dane Moore NBA n.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
C Jays Fredericks there either. I wonder if you made
the trip.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
That's a good question.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
That's why Johnny and Chris, I mean they're out on
the scene, but on the ground right.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
That's very true. Davy so anyway, Yeah, Johnny looks tired.
He did, he looked a little or maybe his dabbers down.
Is he expecting the worst tonight. I haven't texted him.
I'll text him and see and I'll see if he
has any inside dope on the Spur injuries. Spurs injuries
that we talked about earlier. Two good wing players, really
great wing players. Actually, Yeah, both listed as questionable, which
(01:24):
doesn't mean they're not playing right. It can mean they're
not playing.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Let's start there. Yeah, might as well. Darren Fox right
ankle soreness is listed as question well. That was on
yesterday's injury report and continued today Today. They added Dylan
Harper with left knee soreness. He is also questionable for
Game five. If you're just joining us, we mentioned, I
think late last segment that typically the head coaches will
(01:48):
be meeting the media in the next thirty to forty
five minutes. The players are out there doing a lot
of their individual stuff. Intact, that's what Johnny and Chris
were probably watching. Anthony Edwards was on the court yes
getting his pregame work out done, which includes left handed
three pointers, and he makes like eighty percent of him
because he's aunt, why wouldn't he So we should maybe
get a little bit more definitive news on those two
(02:09):
guards for the San Antonio Spurs. Davy Darren Fox obviously
had a good game the other night, as did Dylan Harper.
They're both very good players, and they've been described as
game time decisions.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Game five pivotal.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Game five at seven o'clock tonight, our pregame show right
here and the fans starts at six thirty. Victor wembin
Yama will be in the lineup because he was not
suspended for Game five, which some people have a problem with.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Did he or This isn't so much a Wemby question
as a well, I forgot what the question was. We're
talking injuries. We don't have any added injuries other than
we know the Vincenzo's not available. We know Edward's time
has gone up with each game, and he seems no
worse for the wear other than a little bit winded
(02:54):
a couple of times here. This was my question. We
started Conley the last game, correct, So I would assume
we're going to start calming again tonight, didn't we or
do we not know? We started on?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I would have started the last he started the second
half of Game three.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, that's true, and then he started Game four. Yeah,
I had not perhaps taken his close a look on
the replays of the Desumu miracle catch. Yeah, I did
not realize that the ball had gone off of his
foot and he saved it off of his foot. Craze
was headed out of bounds otherwise, which would have been
(03:30):
the worst case scenario because he touched it so obviously
that would have been a turnover at that point. But yeah,
that was a that's that's a play worthy of a
wide receiver. There's no question if they win the series.
That's one we talked about. There's no question it'll be
it'll become more mythical if they find a way to
actually steal the series. You're right.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So about an hour and twenty minutes from now the
pregame show with Alan Horton, Jim Peterson, Cal Soda, Christin's
Cast of thousands six thirty and then the tip Game
five from San Antonio is seven.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That series tied it two.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Wild are down three to one after a five to
two loss last night at Grand Casino Arena. They led
one zero, they tied it laid at to two, Colorado
scored to make it three to two just a couple
of minutes later, and then a couple of empty netters
and they head to Colorado now for not pivotal game five,
Game five, trying to stave off elimination.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Here's Heinze.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Well, you know, I think there was a lot of
things that you just said. There were the truth. I
think we didn't we didn't play direct enough. But I
think the style of game that we needed to play
to win the game we didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
We didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
We made the conscious choice not to play that way tonight.
So well know, we'll we'll readdress that and then we'll
get ready for Game five, which is tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I should mention, by the way, Parker Fox and me
later tonight we are doing a Wolves Howling with the
Homies postgame show.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
If people are interested. We had fun the other night.
We're doing that again.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
But the Wild Dan could not get themselves to a
to to tie. Russo Radio said about twenty four hours
ago that if the Wild win Game four, he thinks
they're winning the series and with that they get the
buy to the Stanley Cup Final. Basically, that's the allegation
by what's going on on the other side of things.
But they did not get that victory, and apparently we're
(05:12):
not intentional about it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
No, that's what we were told by the head coach,
Louie coming up in about twenty minutes to get his
reaction to a very disappointing Game four. I'll be curious
to see if Louie puts it more on were playing
a really good team and they responded, or if he
was disappointed with the approach, if he buys what the
(05:35):
head coach what Heinz said after the game. I tend
to not get quite as hung up in the approach.
I'll just say whatever the approach is that we decided
to go with, it didn't feel like we attacked the
game anywhere near as effectively as we did the previous game. Right.
Forget whether you're scoring. I'm just talking about, you know,
(05:58):
seizing the actions, seizing the initiative. We didn't do that,
and I I would have thought it would be just
the opposite, even with Colorado clearly wanting to play better
after what they did in Game three, and I thought
maybe the problem for the while would be you get
you're almost too buzzed, and you got to set yourself down.
(06:19):
But I was the most disappointing part to me was
they we just didn't. We didn't seem to whatever, whether
it's the same, not not using the same style, using
Game three, not playing as heavy, whatever you want to use.
All I saw is they looked a lot busier than
we did early in the game, and I thought that
set the tone, even though I mean, we're we tied
(06:40):
it briefly, at least even in the third period, right,
we came back and it was two two, But let's
be clear, I mean, I think it's fair to say
that would have been a romp above and beyond the
empty net goals if not for the goaltending of the Volston. Right.
(07:01):
I believe through much of it well, he was keeping
them even in position where they had a chance to
stay in the game, and their new guy made some
big saves too. He did.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, he and the Wild had some great opportunities. They
were few and far between, but they had some great opportunities,
and I thought he played well.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I agree totally.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
So that Game five is tomorrow night. Derek Shelton and
the Minnesota Twins. One night after being blamed for a
lackluster Wild performance because of how they presented. Let's play
Hockey are back at action against the Miami Marlins. The
Twins dan just three games out of first place in
the American League Central. Still, yeah, there's four teams in
front of them, but they are separated by only three games.
(07:39):
Bailey ober on the mound tonight at target Field. Beautiful
night for a game, it is. If you're not going
to watch Wolves Spurs game five.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Also Frost our schedule to play in our game five
in Montreal tonight. It's still inexplicable to me that the
game was not played last night. It's a remind me
to get to a couple of interesting texts I had
on that I hope I can find them or if
I saved them. If I didn't save them, that was
a mistake. I the explanations are very feeble on the
(08:14):
decision to not play that game last night. It and
what will be interesting is if Montreal wins tonight, it
will be viewed as among the conspiracy types as tainted, right, totally,
no question, it's moot. If the if the Frost win
that it'll become moot. Anyway, it'll be almost Okay, Well
(08:35):
you did what you could with some chickenery, but it
didn't matter. But if it goes the other way, and
this is a decisive game, uh, this is the game
that determines who moves on to the to the next,
to the finals. Uh, then you're going to get an
awful lot of that. The whole approach has been way
too mysterious. It has, and that always contributes to what
conspiracies and suspicion that you were just sort of trying
(08:59):
to protect one team or even protect your product in
its relative infancy. And that's a bad look. It doesn't
it would not happen in any other sport.
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Uh. I'm trying to get rebooted on the branch on
Brand Champion text line, and then my my iPad was
out of juice. I try to re establish the juice
there and the cords not long enough to come up
(10:58):
to the console here. I gotta get I got the
microphone going, so we'll get to the text line in
just a minute. If you have text for Louis, we'll
definitely get the system back in order by the time
we get to the bottom of the hour. Six four
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f A n A text line. By the way, this
(11:24):
late report from Johnny Athletic via text. He notes that
Harper was just out warming up and he thought he
was good to go. That it's been nothing official, but
he didn't see anything in the workout to indicate that
he was not going to be able to go. Said
he was unsure on on Fox, but he also thinks
Harper's been better than Fox. I still I know you've
(11:47):
always loved Fox. I he hasn't always shot well in
this series, but he's a shot maker and he can
and he he's still to me, still dangerous. As I said,
there are people who already think that Harper is their
best player, which is a little scary. But I think
(12:10):
if even one of them is out, that's to the
Wolves advantage. Even if Fox has not been perhaps as
great as he often can't, as good as he can be, yep,
I still think he's a little on the dangerous side.
So from my standpoint, I'd rather I mean, it's a
game of numbers with them, and they come out come
at you with so many good wing people they do
(12:31):
if you have one less. Now, on the other hand,
if you say, well no, then all it means is
that Harper is going to play more, and if he's
playing really well, that actually hurts the Wolves compared to Fox.
I don't know, we can overthink it. Johnny gives me
no indication that we will go with the goon strategy tonight.
(12:52):
I'm not surprised there's not going to be a designated
enforcer who goes out there. But if it was Mike
Conley getting his first career technical foul, well, the funniest
thing is to watch the replay of Conley's reaction to
the elbow, where he looked hard. He looked like like hey,
like what's going on here? Which I thought was that
would be remarkable if he finally got a technical. I
(13:15):
frankly am curious to see what kind of game nods
just he has in general, and you know, so where
he fits to this thing. I don't think he's an
enforcer kind of a player. No, But I don't think,
as I said that, the message to me that that
has to be conveyed from the coaches is let's not
(13:38):
be stupid, let's not listen to day day. We want
to win the game and we want to win the series.
But you also can't anticipate well, you know, be real
careful on how you guard him because they're going to
be probably calling it closer. I don't think you can
approach the game that way. You may have to adjust.
(13:59):
And I don't think in any of the officials named,
I'm not sure how much of a rep the names.
I can't remember who's officiating, it's already been determined. They're
not I don't think any of our usual arch enemies
that we assume are against us. But I don't know
what the reputation is of the three in terms of
how closely the game is called, because I honestly do
(14:20):
believe in this series that it works the Wolves advantage
if refs let more stuff go on and more generally
beyond just the nonsense. I'm just curious to see how
nas Reed plays in this game as the guy who
was who took the hit.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, he played well after I thought he did, yeas
what was the ordered?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
It was the ankle injury first and then the throat
he limped off once. Uh wasn't that the same game? Yeah?
I think that was after. You think the ankle was
after because he left for a while. If you were
a caall he went to the locker room. Yes, I'm
pretty sure that was after and then came back. So
I mean he he did the routine pretty good. John
(15:02):
going back? Is it? Goobel? Yeah? Ben Taylor, Carl Lane
are your s? Those names don't mean anything. They might
mean something to NBA veterans like Johnny, I'm not. I'm
not sure, but it the the I agree with double
T that tonight, the challenge is to not get behind
(15:25):
twenty to five, and I would say at any point
you can't. I worry that once it gets to fifteen
or twenty in this game, then it's gonna end up
being bloody again like it was in Game two. So
you got it. I think you got to stay within reason,
You got to hang and it's the classic. The longer
the game goes on, the more maybe you gain some confidence,
(15:47):
and the more doubt is putting their head. It's got
to be. I don't think it's a kind of game.
I know, and against Denver in Game seven a couple
of years ago, we did that. We were down nineteen,
we came back and you were there and we won
the damn yep. I don't think we can count on
that at all. I don't think. I think it's a
dangerous way to play. You got I think you got
to stay with them and pretty much throughout. And we've
(16:10):
had two terrible starts, right, the two home games. We
had two terrible starts, correct, the last two. Yeah, three
was way worse. Three was absolutely but they neither one
of them was very encouraging. No, And I don't think
you can keep doing that. I guess what I'm saying,
particularly on the road, even if it's just you know,
we'll get back to it's a long game and all that.
I don't think you want to get into that kind
(16:32):
of thing. We're playing catch up the whole way, and
expending that kind of energy makes it harder for the
coach to make decisions on giving people proper rest all
that kind of good stuff. So just stay with them,
you know, And it doesn't mean you have to be
ahead the whole game, but just stay with him and
have a chance in the fourth quarter, and.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Don't be annoyed that Wemby is playing tonight. I could
see us doing that too, like saying all the right
things that we knew he wasn't going to be suspended.
We played for him to not be suspended, but then
get out there and let the fact that he didn't
get suspended. If he has a couple of blocks early
or you get called for a couple of.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Fouls, you can't wallow in that. You can't. That's why
we're with the whole house.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Nas gonna play I hope not his plays with a
clear mind, because he doesn't need anything else in there.
Right when he's frustrated about stuff, he gets very easily distracted.
A lot of guys do. That's why this team has
been such a roller coaster throughout the regular season. But
that's the thing to watch early is how are they
gonna call the first time you put a forearm in
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Wemby's back that they maybe haven't called for the first
four games, And how do you respond to that because
you know they're gonna I just have a feeling they're
going to. And if they don't, the crowd in San Antonio, Dave,
He's going to be all over the officials there and
then human nature creeps in. So don't let that wem
be part of it. Puts you in a bad headspace either.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Does it? Are you encourage at all that the spread
has moved in our direction by two points? Has it? Yeah?
Now some of that might be well that's too many points, right,
and and people, I'll take some of that money. I
don't know. Listened, I've seen nine and a half from
eleven and a half, but there there are others where
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it might be eight and a half. I don't I'm
not I'm not sure. I do not expect them to
get blown out tonight. I I don't think it's going
to be like Game two. I will be I will
be very surprised if if it is, and I and
I know that there's also a chance that you know
Wemby goes off, there's no doubt, but you cannot. The
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one thing you can't play is timid against him. You
you almost have to test the refs. And I don't
mean by by hitting him cheaply. I just mean by
being physical with him, by knocking him around a bit,
by trying to get him off of his space. Given
how how slender he is that I think that's not
any kind of there's nothing dirty about that. That's part
(18:55):
of what you have to do.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
If it turns out they're overreacting the refts and they're
calling everything, you have to adjust to it at some
point because you can't follow everybody out. But I think
you have to play that out honestly and say we're
not really apologizing for anything that we have done to
this point. So we'll have to see a lot of
good uh Louie texts already coming in. So let's stay
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on schedule. We'll pause here and we'll talk. Puk will
get Loui's reaction to a disappointing game for for the Wild.
They now find themselves down three games to one, heading
back to Denver for a game tomorrow night, which you
can hear on the fan. We'll chat with Louie next we.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Sneaks around the world.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
In the world.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Many brought his good friends at camps as always, Louis
joined us via the Connectico Water Systems hotline.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Louis, what happened in game four?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Then? I've been trying to analyze this. Why are sports
have hazardous? To your help, we stop and think about it.
I've been trying to figure this out. Why do we care,
why DoD why do we get so involved?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Why does why do we invest.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Individuals so much? I mean, I'm trying to find out
why I get so upset or frustrated? Why should I
feel this way?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
We?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You know, we just didn't play the type of game
we should have been playing. Hey, we forgot that you
need to puck the win the game.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
You take a look at some of the parts, especially
in the second period and parts of the third, where
we just didn't at the puck. They were in the
wild zone for extended periods of time. We weren't getting turnovers,
we weren't winning the puck battles along the boards. Our
gaps coming through the neutral zone were not good. They
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were turning our defensement sometime with speed coming on the zone.
And and the odd part about it was that was
the game the Weld really should have won. The way
Wallstead played that game, You're thinking, you know, all we
need is a couple of chances, and their goalie did
play well when we did get some chances, but we
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should had far more chances. We should have been handling
and keeping the puck like they did. If you look
at puck possession time in that game, you know, I
don't have any statues, I don't look at it, but
all you need is the eye. Just look at the
game and think, are we ever going to have that puck?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Very well said. We were talking at the at the
start of the program about the comments from Heinze after
the game, and I've you know, I've covered and listened
to and paid attention to and watched a lot of
playoff series in several sports, and I've heard coaches after
losses ripped their team, praised their team, encouraged their team
(22:13):
a lot of different strategies. I'm not sure I ever
remember hearing the comments that came out of Heinze's mouth
last night. His direct quote was, I think the style
of game that we needed to play to win the game,
we made the conscious choice not to play that way tonight.
It sounds so odd when he puts it that way.
(22:34):
What do you think he means.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Well, there's no doubt he means that they didn't play
the way they played the game before as far as
checking for checking, you know, winning battles and keeping the pockets.
It's more like we were as focused our direct on
our checking as we should have been, and we started
maybe playing too cute. You know. One of the things
(23:01):
I'm sure he's referring to is how many times is
a wild turn the puck over at the opposition blue line,
rather than getting deep the turnover as a transition coming
the other way. The worst was to watch the power play.
I mean I finally just got up and started walking
around the room screaming he couldn't get the pucket the zone. Yeah, plate,
(23:24):
just throw it in there and we'll get it if
you can't get it in. But we when we were
looking at that game and you're seeing how many rushes,
I think it was a minute I looked at I
think it was a minute and fifty two seconds, and
essentially on one power play, we had no puck control
on their zone, and we had so many turnovers at
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the blue line, and you know, dump backs and actually
they'd come down and you know, throw the puck down
and for check and kill some seconds and he would
come up with the puck every now and then. It just
for some reason, it was so different from the game before.
And like I said, and you say, why do I care?
Why don't we get so frustrated? Why do I feel
(24:08):
this way? It's it's the game. It's their game, not
our game. But you get to so it evolved in
it and the frustrated with the way the way you
see the game before, and then you see the way
the you know, there were long stretches of times you're
in that second period and then the third after it
got tied up where you're expecting a big comeback and
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it doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Well, the part that that that I thought was different,
he said conscious choice, almost as if he was suggesting
that that his players deliberately decided, no, we don't care
how we won Game three, We're going to win this
game a different way. That's what sounded so odd to me, you.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Know, And I don't whether you said that or not.
I'm sure he didn't meet it, you know. It's it's
just like saying, well, we know we were supposed to
play the different ways in the conscious choice, but a
lot of times when you're playing the game, you don't
realize you're playing a differentlys you played before, you know,
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and sometimes by being overhyped being so excited, you know,
I'm sure they came out last night with a feeling
that they're going to duplicate the kind of game they
had game before, not knowing that they're getting away from
the style that they played the game before. But they
definitely weren't going to consciously and they want to win
(25:34):
as much or more than anybody else. But it didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Peace and Love guy, rights will please ask mister Nanny
why in this last game the AVS players always seem
to be in the wild zone collecting the wild outlet
clearing attempts. Were they more aggressive in putting more app
players in the wild defensive zone? Did they know the
wild game plan? And how smart them? That's from Peace
and Love.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Guy, Yeah, I don't think they're smarter than they You
know how the team's going to play. It's just that
they they were winning the battles on the boards. They
were the passing of the Wild was not good. And
if you make bad passing your own zone, you're just
off a little bit. You're turning over pucks in your
own zone and they're constant there. I can't tell you
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how many turnovers are happening in that zone if you
look at if you look at the lines, the third
and fourth line, so called third and fourth line of
the Wild were the most effective line because they were
winning battles all over the ice, and they were, you know,
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they were giving a spark every now and then because
their ford checking property coming up with bucks, they are
taking the body back there. It was it was the
first and second line that it seemed to be too cute.
Not getting bucks out definitely when they've always been able
to do it, Not getting in the zone when they've
been able to do it, not getting opportunities when they
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get in the zone like they would. It was just
one of those games where you see nothing is going
right for them. It's just gone happening unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
True. A lot of good texts are coming in. How
about this one? This is from Mark Louis. I believe
the turning point of the game is when Trenyon closed
his hand in the puck, which was avoidable. Once they
scored that power play goal, they got the momentum they
were looking for.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
That was a big point, and that was I could
not I could not believe that happened. From when you're
a little kid, you know, you could not close your
hand in the puck. And not only just close your hand,
but now it looked like he's almost having a game.
He's going to throw it one way, to throw it
another way, he's still had the puck and then drop behind.
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That was really surprising me. I have no idea what
he could have been thinking at that time. And you know,
every time you give them a par play, you're given
opportunities for them to get into their game. And and
that that was That was big. That was a major
point in the game.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Okay, so the fact is they're down three games to one.
They can't wallow in it. It's a difficult road. It's
very difficult road. Now for all the obvious reasons. What's
the approach? I mean, I know it's always one game.
You can't think of winning three because you can't win
three until you win one. But what's the answer?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
What?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
What? What? What gives the while the best chance to
carry this thing forward a little bit?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I think the fact that they did not play very
well this last game, I'm expected to play a real
good game to worn. I think they're going to come
out and give it a terrific effort tomorrow. I don't
know how the game is going to end up, but
I do I do really believe they have a chance
to win tomorrow night, because I I don't see them
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wallow in their misery of losing that game last night.
I look, I think this is really a determined group
of guys, and they play like a determined group of guys.
I expect them, and you know, the leadership is going
to come from Felino brothers for sure, and mcaren because
they're going to start that game with bashing bodies around,
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and I just think that I think they're gonna give
a real good account of themselves tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Well, obviously there's no margin for error at at this point.
That that parts for sure. How much of this you
know when a game turns the way, you know, the
dramatic differences between games three and four. How much of
this in our myopia for you know, paying attention to
the wild side of it. How much of this has
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to do with the fact, again that they're good, they're
they're they're a very good team, and so they might
have something to do with the fact that the Wild
didn't play the same way they did in game three.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
They had a lot to do that. That's great. What
you said is just exactly what happened. They came out
and they were going to show that they were a
terrific team, and you could see it in the way
they were handling the puck and the places you were making.
They were playing with a confident air throughout the whole game,
even when it got close. They maintained their confidence with
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the puck, skating with the puck, getting in proper positions.
They played like a team is supposed to play. They
played like the best team that in the league is
supposed to play. They you know, you could take some
stuff with it away from the Wild, say they didn't
do this and that, But a big reason is because
Colorado wasn't letting them have the puck. Colorado was a movie. Continually,
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they were getting in open spots, they were greening opportunities
for themselves by making the right growth, and they were
sharp passing the puck. They were quick and the other
of the zone. A lot of what happened to the
Wild you'd say they didn't play. Yeah, they played consciously
the wrong ways because Colorado made him play that way
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a lot. A lot of times. They defended so well
that they didn't give it the Wild opportunity of the
puck control that they had in the wild zone is it.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
You know, a lot of what we talked about after
game three, well even going into the game three was
that the Wild need to play excuse me, heavier, and
I think you defined in your mind what that means
in terms of the right kind of checking and physicality,
not checking for the sake of checking, but strategic checking.
The contributed to victory. So using that, I mean, did
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did we not play quote unquote as heavy in game four?
Did that have much to do with it?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Well, it's a third and fourth line certainly did that
when they had the kind of success the averager in
the game. If you were to grade the lines there,
the third and fourth lines were better in the first
and second line.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
The second line, with you know boldy joants and then
Europe was the weakest line for because of how many
times they turned the puck over and and and not
only that, didn't get out of the zone. They had
pucks to get out of his zone and didn't get
opportunities in the zone because they made some bad passes.
And it's you know, you want to play a heavy game,
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but if you're going to play a heavy game, you
got to get to the guy to play the heavy game.
And Colorado's moving that buck so quickly most of the
time that even though the while we're taking they were
taking bodies when they had the chance, many times didn't
get the chance to get to the body because the
puck was gone so fast.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
What is your philosophy on I think you can speak
to this even though the sport is basketball. So as
you know, in the previous game, when by Yama gets
ejected for a vicious elbow shot to nas Red, it's
a it's a clinical, it's a textbook you know injection.
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There's no question about that. It's a flagrant too. That
was I think the easy decision it had to be made.
There was no further suspension, there was no fine, but
there's the question of what does the team that's that's
victimized by that kind of cheap shot, what is it
obligated to do in order to sort of keep you know,
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its pride so to speak. This is what we're told
all the time. Draymond Green has already said, well, what
the Wolves have to do is they got to hit
They got to hit Wemby with an elbow in this game,
same way, because you have to stand up for yourself. Now,
in hockey, there's a whole etiquette on this stuff, and
you and I have talked about it over the years,
But how do you thread the needle Louis on making
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your point physically that you're not backing down and not
losing your composure to a point that you win that
battle but have a better chance of losing the war
as in losing the game.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Well, I think dreamind Green should have to McCarran play
because McCarron took a bad butt into the face, which
was that was a brutal non call. Mansion should have
been out of the game. That should have been a
five in a game mis conduct, and they used the
thing that they weren't sure that he hit him. But
the where do you think that, where do you think that?
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But it went I mean that was ludicrous. And then
a lot of people are making fun of it on
Twitter right now that they didn't make the call. But
mceren didn't let that stop him and he didn't go
to play stupid, but he took He was physical when
he got the opportunity to be physical.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
But he was.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Physical in a clean way. For Greed to say, well
he got to give an elbow or something. Hey, the
big you have. You always remember that the prize is winning.
You can't even afford a little penalty or a little
you know, extra foul just to get pride the playoffs.
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We always used to say, just get a number, remember
for next season exactly. You don't try and extract upon
the flesh during the playoff game. But it's not never
worth it, never worth it. You have to accept whatever
you get, whether it's a cheap shot or a good shot,
whatever it is. You have to play to win, and
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the only way you play to win is by maintaining
your focus on doing the proper things to win. And
the proper things are making sure you don't get needless penalties,
stupid pedalies that are going to cost you, or even
you take yourself on a position by taking an extra
run of the guy when he's already gone to bucks gone,
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you know, you might get caught. The end game is
winning the game, and that means you sacrifice whatever you
have to sacrifice to win the game.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
It's such an important distinction, and I think you and
nature being what it is, sometimes it's hard for some
players to understand that in the in the heat of
the of that emotion and this notion of you're not
going to get me. I think, you know, that's what
separates the brainiest players from those who don't always succeed
in that situation.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I agree with that, but I want to I want
to point out that hockey has really somehow got that
message true to the majority of the players. I don't
seen ninety percent of the players. You look at the
hockey playoffs right now and look at the shots that
guys are taking, and and just remember during the regular season,
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what are you going to fight every two games or something,
and how many we haven't seen any fights in the
whole playoffs. Guys take it. They know they can't do that.
They know that the most important thing is not penalizing
your team, by your selfishness, by trying to get even
with a guy or a guy or you know, we
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illegally when you shouldn't be doing that. Players are really
getting so conditioned to accepting whatever they get and and
not reacting the way that they would during a regular season.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah, that's that's a that's a great, that's that's true.
There is less of it, I think, uh than there
than there once was. That's that's for certain. In terms
of the goaltending, is it fair to say that without
Bolstad playing as well as he did, it wouldn't have
even been as close as it was, and it wasn't
all that close in the end.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, well said did make a difference to the score,
that's for sure. He easily had a number of way
more chances to stop than Colorado's goaltender, and and quality
stops too. I mean, you know, you were almost nineteen
minutes for shot.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
That's a long time.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
That's unheard of, and especially during that period of time,
he had some power plays. You know, you think you're
gonna get a shot. I know there's one power play
I don't know. Not only did they not get a shot,
I don't think they got an intent to a shot,
which was something that that's where the Wild got to
be much much more effective than they were, and they
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got to win the draws at those times. They were
good winning draws, moll you know a lot of times
through the game. But they did lose someone on the
power play went right away, you know, not twenty twenty
five seconds off by getting the puck down the ice.
You gotta go back and bring it back up. And
when that happened, a few of those times you weren't
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even able to get into the zone.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
What do you make. I don't know how closely you've
been following this story, but The Frost was supposed to
play Montreal yesterday in the decisive Game five of their
best of five series. The game gets postponed till tonight,
allegedly because there are too many ill players on the
Montreal side, and there was a feeling that there was
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like a health decision made that they didn't want to
expose I guess players and the other team to I
think it's basically some kind of intestinal flu. Right, It's
not covid, it's not the haunt of virus. It's just
a sort of bad intestinal stuff. I you know, thought yesterday,
and I've heard nothing to change my view on this,
that they had to play the game yesterday, that it's
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unfortunate for Montreal, but if you have enough players, and
a couple of the reporters indicated their best players probably
wouldn't have been available, but they did have enough players
that you got to play the game. I just don't
think there's much precedent for making that decision and playing
the game tonight. Do you know anything about it? Do
you what do you make of it?
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Well? I know one thing, I've never heard of that
happening before without something being really a crucial right right,
maybe contingent, yes, just type of thickness, and that's why
I was very surprised at it. But you know, the
one thing you look at, the women's games are being
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affected by the schedule of course, and being able to
get in buildings. Yes, yes, they've been a little not lacked,
but they've been a little more flexible when they had
to play their games and when they're going to play
in both. They had the same thing happening in Montreal
this past weekend when Gretson Biddy's team was playing Level
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in the fifth and deciding game in Quebec in Montreal
and Montreal is both you know, going to play Saturday night,
so they postponed the game that level was playing, made
them play Sunday afternoon, and just because they didn't want
to have competition between the farm team and then not
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that they would have sold the tickets, but they wanted
them both to get the exposure. So the miners in
the women's maybe they got more flexibility to move than
than the NHL teams.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Well, my hope is we'll have another chance to talk
that this thing will still be moving and the while
we'll find a way to make it to make it interesting.
We'll know more about that after tomorrow night. Right.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Well, I'm I'm keeping you know, I'm getting this funny
feeling I can get some confidence here. I'm just I'm
I'm thinking that they're gonna come up with a real
good effort, whether they want or not. But I think
that I really like this team that they that's the
best team the Walls ever had, and there's so much
fun to watch, and you hate to see them, you know,
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go down on the type of effort that they're not
accustomed to.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Thank you, Luigi, great stuff. As always, we will chat maybe.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Sunday sounds good. Thank you, Thanks lou.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Nanni helping us out. Brought to you by as usual Camps.
Have a chance for some texts in our final half
hour related really to what took place last night at
the arena formerly known as the Acts and what you
might expect tonight in San Antonio Davy Wolves Spurs game
number five with a chance for the Wolves, who I
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think really shocked the NBA world if they could, they could,
they could steal another game there and come back here
with a chance to knock out the Spurs under very
unlikely circumstances. So any thoughts on either of those. What
took place last night on the hockey side, what my
plate take place tonight on the hoop side? Let us know.
We've got some texts on Jack Douglas, the former John
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Lennon record producer that we owed it earlier in the show.
He has passed away former guest of the Bumper Bumper Show.
We may explore some of those as well. Back in
just a minute here in the fan.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
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Speaker 2 (42:47):
Thursday is National Football League official schedule release. Correct, there
are already some games that have been leaked. Have any
of the games involving our club yet been leaked? I
don't believe. So well, are you familiar with Bonesaw? No,
Bonesaw's got our schedule? Really? Yeah? So I'm gonna go
ahead and give it to you, okay, and then we're
gonna check to see how accurate Bonesaw ends up being.
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Maybe Bonesaw have the best sources ever, and he'll he will.
We'll give him proper credit for being way ahead of it.
Is Bonesaw another one of Mark Rosen's cats, because he
might have.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yeah, not sure? Or maybe he knows Mark Rosen's cat.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Are you ready? I don't even know. I guess the
test is I don't even know what divisions we play,
if it makes sense we're playing these teams at all.
But here's what Bonesaw has. We open against the Carolina Panthers,
and then we're at New Orleans to take on the Saints.
Then we're at Green Bay for Thursday Night football. Then
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we've got the Bills. Then we're at Tampa Bay, Tampa
Bay on Sunday night, football. Then we got the Commanders
at Bears, host the Packers at Jets, Dolphins, Colts, and
we played the Lions on Thanksgiving. We will obviously be
there at Patriots a bye in week fifteen, then at
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San Francisco, and then we host the Lions on Monday
Night football. And we finished with the Falcons and the
Bears at home.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Now do we know who we're playing? And that's I
think so. So that's the Bone Saw schedule. We'll find
out if he did you say the Bills broke the internet? Yeah,
he has us playing the Bills week one, two, three, four,
we host the Bills.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Wow. Yeah, So there you have it. Bone Saw will
find out if that's an alias for somebody who's got
inside information. But Thursday's the official night, right Thursday night,
and usually Thursday Day, there's some leakage, and there's already
been leakage. I think the first game of the season,
which bores me, is a Thursday night game between the
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Cowboys and the Giants. Oh my god. Yeah, it's just
so hideous, it's so predictable. But I believe that one
has been leaked already. But yeah, they announced those like yeah, big, yeah.
They go on the Today's Show or they go on
whatever and they announce all of them. Yeah, so interesting,
interesting early. Yeah, so we got we got Thanksgiving against
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the Lions there obviously, mm hmm. We got a Sunday
night game against the Bucks there. Funny if that's the
whole schedule. I know, a Monday night game against the
Lions late.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
They are so tight about it now, the league, Yeah,
they hate these leaks, but the leaks happen all the time.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I wonder who Bonesaw really is. We'll save his number?
Is it some search and do some sleuthin well serry
code four two five?
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Where is that four to five? That could be a
burner though, that's true. If it's if he's a good
source source, it.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Might be a burner. Yeah, very possibly it's a burner.
I don't know for sure, but I always am intrigued
by because we get these every year, a couple of
days early. And I will say, like, if you go
on the internet, even on relatively respectable sites, there are
people offering predictions of the schedule. They're not They don't
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even say we got inside information. We're just gonna have
fun with it and predict it. Now, is Bonesaw doing that?
Or does bon Saw have some source, some impeccable source
in New York.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
It'd be a heck of a story because the four
two five area code is basically Seattle. It's the northern
and eastern suburbs of Seattle.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Maybe it's Tice. No, I think Tyson moved again, although
his phone could still be that number. Yeah, Tyson is
in Vegas. Isn't Vegas? I think he's in Vegas? Now, Yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
We need to circle back with Tyson's kid Nate.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Well, yeah, you've tried, and Caesar said, than done, isn't it. Yeah,
this might be a slow time. And he's a Wolves
fan too.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
It's more to talk about the Wolves huge because you're
up here.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Yeah, that's he's one of us. That's very true, Davy,
you're right about that.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Let me say it is stupid how much you know
this that I.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
I love the schedule release day. It's hard not to
be in Toxic but it even I I grant you,
it's the it's the only league that can do that, right.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
Yes, I mean I like all the schedules, like I
wait for the Timberwolf schedule. I don't know why again,
because I just like having things to look forward to.
I guess I always looked for, you know, the Gopher
basketball schedules. They had like a Big Ten opponent release
thing today. The Big Ten did for the men on
who your double plays are and what where your home
and roads are going. They don't have it for the
women yet. So I don't know where I'm going, but
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I love.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
That Dan Minnesota, Oh, I say, he's got a schedule leak.
He has learned that the Purple will play Green Bay, Chicago,
and Detroit twice each this season. Well that's nice, but
you ain't. You ain't threatening bone Saw's position right now
when it comes to the schedule leaks, the stories, the stadiums,
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he's gotten a lot more specific. Uh so we got
a hold on I took a picture of it, so
we'll hold on to that and see how accurate that
ends up being. That's great. We may hope it's like
right on the money. It would crack me up to now. Yeah,
on Thursday night on the fan, No, not on the fan?
Is it on the fan?
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Abba, it's going to be mad. I can't remember. I
think it's on the fan. I know it's on something
on one of our verticals. Why are we doing a show. Yes,
I'm one of our play but it's not.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
On the fan. So in the past it's been on
the fan, it's usually been Nordo, hasn't been Nordo and
Sauce usually after us.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
But this year it's going to be the voice of
the Vikings Paul Allen with Pete Bersich and Ben Lieber.
It's the triumvir and it's the Vikings Audio Network broadcast team.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Well Brad. To that end, Brad from Mendota Heights Rights
Kfan has been playing an ad all day for the
schedule reveal show seven pm Thursday night. There it is
hosted by Paul, Pete and Ben. There you go, and
now I don't have to listen. We just did it.
We just did it. Sorry, we didn't analyze it. I
grant you that point. I haven't sat there to look
at Okay, what's the easy part, what's the soft part? Well,
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let's look at it again. Just for kicks.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
We might as well should have boom. You should have
done a boom before.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
The Panthers they're not well. I can't remember where they getting.
Were they up and coming? Were they were a little
better this last year? Weren't they Q. Yeah, at Saint
we should be two and oh, Panthers here at Saint
should be to and oh at Green Bay two and one.
I don't want to do that game. Buffalo, Tampa Bay,
Tampa Bay. And that's at Tampa Bay. Then the Commanders,
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then the Bears. Then the where's the easy part? At
Jets first two week nine, at Jets Week ten, Dolphins
Week eleven, Colts that could be a stretch to get stretch,
and then at Lions on Thanksgiving at Patriots, this doesn't
seem that easy. Well, that's why we we blew it
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winning those games late.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
I think that stretch you just mentioned the Patriots that
the Lions.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm not convinced on the Lions.
Oh you're not. You've turned on them.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
I haven't turned on them, but I don't They're out
the Lions three years ago.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Jets, Dolphins, Colts, Lions. We got to the Super Bowl
last year, didn't they. Yeah, I'm not buying it, buying it.
Their schedule is harder now. Yeah. And then at forty
nine Ers and Lions. Uh. Then we finished with the
Falcons and the Bears, and I don't even know if
the Bears are going to be It's it's very difficult
to say at this point do we n J.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
McCarthy's going to be ready to go for that five
game stretch after Kyler ur gets hurt.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
We'll probably get back to it once we get through
our winter sports teams here. However long they stay in it,
and it may not be that much longer. In either case,
it could it could come to a screeching hault quickly. Unfortunately,
that's the way it works in the postseason. It can
be a very abrupt finish, but it's still they're still
in it to very to two different degrees, I think,
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but I keep reading and I and I think it
was dot Com Tom among others, basically saying the plan
from the organization is absolutely killer quarterback petition in training camp,
and that nothing has been decided. I don't know if
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I can believe it. I would prefer it, I really would.
I I don't think despite the fact that he's been
a starter for seven years, I think that the new
guy from Arizona, what's his name, Kyler Murray, Kyler Murray,
is so untouchable that well, if you bring him in,
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you have to you know, you've got to have the job.
I think I never thought he had that much leverage
to tell you the truth. Will you say you want
to come and can be for the job. Fine? I
would prefer it an old fashion. How long has it
been since we've had a good, old fashioned training camp
quarterback competition that's wide open? What's wrong with that? We
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love it at other positions. Why can't think how much
fun that would be when we're at the training camp
perch yeh see daily battle. I look at it differently, though.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
I think you only have a quarterback competition if you
don't really have a quarterback. Most teams know who their
starter is.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Well, we don't know. I know you have a quarterback.
That's the truth of it, I understand. But maybe this
brings out the baby JJ. You know, he just puts
his foot down and plants his feet and works his
ass off and comes back and you don't even recognize him.
I think he doesn't even recognize nine. I think that's
what they're hoping for. That probably is.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
I think that's why they're hoping for that. But most
teams that are good don't have to do that. That's
the problem.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
You're right about that, all right, let's get to wrapping
up the program. A couple final injury reports out of
San Antonio, Davey, and maybe some final thoughts on the
Wolves game five tonight, and more tragedy in the sports
world as well, which we've not explored. We'll give you
details too when we come back. Bumper to bumper. Thank
you double T who joined us at four h two
today and Luigi at five thirty, so we got a
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basketball playoff fix and a hockey fix as well from Luigi.
Although Luigi even got in on the WEMBI discussion when
I gave him the opportunity to do so, and I
think he subscribes to our philosophy, which is, don't worry
so much about winning the macho pride battle of firing back,
(53:10):
fire back by winning, and if you can, along the way,
be physical with the player that was over the line
with your player. Yeah, I get that. That's all I
think fair in love and war, that kind of thing.
So we appreciate their contributions as always. The sad news
breaking on the NBA front that Brandon Clark has died
(53:31):
at the age of twenty nine years old. Pronounced dead
shortly after five pm Monday, he is, of course, a
member of the Memphis Grizzlies. His death is being investigated
as a potential overdose. According to a Los Angeles news station.
For the record, he had been arrested last month for
(53:52):
speeding and drug possession in Arkansas. Not a lot of
other details on this particular a tragedy. A six to
seven veteran forward, he played his entire career in Memphis,
he suffered a season ending injury during a game in
December after sustaining a right calf strain. So very sad
(54:14):
news there. And additionally, Jason Collins saw that the first
openly gay NBA player has died of brain cancer at
the age of forty seven years old. His family said
earlier today he had been diagnosed with stage four cancer,
one of the deadliest forms of brain cancer. Had even
(54:37):
tried some experimental treatments in Singapore this past winner that
were not yet authorized in the United States. It did
allow him to return home. He had attended NBA All
Star weekend events in Los Angeles and a game in
his alma mater at Stanford, according to Ramona Shelbourne via
ESPN dot com, But horrible news there. He retired in
(54:57):
twenty fourteen, a thirteen year career that included stops with
the Nets, Memphis, Minnesota. I don't remember him here, do
you do? You have vague? Vague yeah, Atlanta, Boston, Washington
to return to the Jets. I should see to the
Nets after they moved to Brooklyn. So very sad stories there.
(55:20):
I don't have any new information on who's in and
who's out for san Antonio Davy tonight. They've had two
players listen as questionable today, and that's both Fox, Darren
Fox and Dylan Harper. Dylan Harper was brilliant in the
last game here. You know, if if they'd have stolen
the game, he'd have been largely the reason why he
(55:43):
had twenty four points. I think he only took ten
shots at twenty four points points, got to the free
throw line, He seemed to get wherever he wanted, whenever
he wanted, and.
Speaker 3 (55:52):
Took in transition that one time kind of yes, got
rid of him in the lane.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
That was really what daunting about san Antonio is not
just Wemby, Frankly, it's him. The idea of how young
he is a further reason to want to try to,
you know, petition to get to the Eastern Conference at
some point very soon. Oklahoma City is waiting in the wings.
They're gonna have to wait like two weeks because they swept.
They've swept both of their first two series, right they
are eight, and they sure have. They took care of
(56:17):
the injured, flawed Los Angeles Lakers of Anaheim last night,
So they'll just be waiting in the wings. And the Wolves,
I'm sure, will hope to upset the NBA. I guess hierarchy,
which is we want or you know, they'll be anger. Well,
(56:38):
there will be celebration of their toughness if they find
a way to do it, because I do think they're
gaining fans around the country to that extent this whole story.
But people are be mad if they're not perceived as
a team who might best threaten Oklahoma City in their
attempts to win their second in a row. But again,
(56:59):
we've talked about this a lot. I don't know how
long this is going to go. But what I love
about even the Wemby controversy is exactly what I love
and what I said about why I prefer best of
seven series to best of one, even in the big dance,
because you never know what's coming you couldn't have chronicled
or predicted right, and the game number four, Wemby considered
(57:24):
to that extent rather mild manner no history, ends up
doing what he does. I thought about it all night
at game four, and it leads to then, okay, should
he get suspended? Should there be all these story angles
that at least give us stuff to bounce off of
and have fun with that are there? That's why Best
of seven series are so are so I think unique
(57:47):
and attractive for shows like Hours because one story builds
on another. And now Best of three. Who knows? There
are people who expect San Antonio to win by thirty tonight,
they really are, And there are people who expect Wemby
to score sixty and bring down twenty rebounds and block
(58:08):
twelve shots. That might well be the case, but I'll
say what I said earlier. Anybody who goes with the
that's Wemby exacting revenge has kind of missed the thread
and missed the boat right, because it's nas reed who
should be exacting revenge. Wemby got not thrown out of
a game because of his own behavior, and the league
(58:29):
spared him anything else. So if he's angry. It should
be about letting down his own team, not that the
league did
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