Top 5/Pat Kessler - Bumper to Bumper 4/15/26 Hour Three

Dan and Gaardsy review the Top 5 including Anthony Edwards comments on the Denver series before Pat Kessler makes his weekly appearance for a political roundup and the usual Kessler nonsense.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
All right, Kessler coming up in about thirty minutes, and
we have plenty to get to, including what you tell
me is the surfacing of Anthony Edwards? Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, he met the media today in advance of the
Wolves and Denver Nuggets series, which begins Saturday afternoon two thirty.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
It's on Prime.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
We know that hopefully the technical difficulties will be ironed
up by then. We don't know yet if it will
be on KFA N because we don't yet know the
wild schedule, but it is always on the Timberwolves Channel,
all the games of your iHeartRadio app. Anthony Edwards admitting
what sadly many of us suspected all along.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
I mean, yeah, I felt like that at times, like
we were just trying to, you know, get through the season,
to get to the playoffs. But we hear now and
all the other excuses are out of the window, So
it's time.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, it's time. There's no better time than now. Denver
Nuggets seated third of one, twelve in a row. They've
gotten Nikola Jokic Julius Randall today when asked about matching
up with Joker, what's the key? I'm paraphrasing some of
the things Julius said, But first thing he said was pray,
ask God for some help.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Then wow, which is a good answer.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
It's a good answer. Sure, it's a good answer. So
anything in that reaction that well, I like it's an
annoying acknowledgment, but he's done that before.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
About the way is even.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I think Mike Conley acknowledged the Wolves have stopped and
started way too often this regular season. This is not
a team that should finish in sixth in the Western
Conference playoffs in terms of the the pecking order the standings.
Conley agreed with that, and we kind of know why.
But I like Edward saying no excuses, meaning that he

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kind of acknowledges that what has been offered before are
more excuses rather than reasons. The question is whether they
can summon it up right, not that they can't say it,
not that they haven't been through it, but can this
iteration of the team, summon it up, and again you're
not just playing against yourself. You're playing against a very

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formidable opponent that you did beat last time you met
in the playoffs, but is better than that team. Jabal
Murray is healthier and better this time around. Their team
is deeper this time around as well. And there's Look,
it's I don't like the idea that nobody naturally seems

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to be picking the Wolves, but I'm not surprised that
most people aren't.

Speaker 6 (02:51):
Because if you look at the seasons for these two teams,
I think to a large extent, it's not surprising that
most people pick Denver to win this series.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
So it's there, but you got to do it. It
can't just be about saying all the right things. It's
about doing it. And even as recently as a year ago,
we were doing it in the final twenty to twenty
five games of the regular season on the court that
kind of set the stage. We've not done that this time.
We finished nine was it nine to ten or ten

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and eleven something like that, basically been five hundred for
the last that's the last quarter of the season, which
means you're not exactly flying in so we know what's
at stake. We talked about it earlier with Conley and afterwards.
You have to use your advantage defensively. You're a better
defensive team than Denver. Denver is clearly the better offensive team.

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They might well be the best offensive team in basketball,
which is what makes them so dangerous.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
But you're gonna have to get back.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
And we've heard this from Johnny a lot. He doesn't
believe that Anthony Wortz has been anywhere near the two
way player that he needs to be. I agree with that,
and that's a little concerning too, because again, what the
best of the best players figure out is there are

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no shortcuts, the notion that you can turn it on
to do what what are you trying to accomplish? Get
to the Final four again, win a series, or win
the whole thing. That's rarely a path to winning the
whole thing. So we'll see where it goes.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
So, how Anthony, have you utilized the time offs that
you had here recently because of your banged up knee,
working on.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
My body, getting back in shape, getting my body fat down.
I haven't been to eighteen since I was in college,
since I was eighteen, so I'm like two eighteen, so
I've gotten down in my weight and I think the
main thing is getting in shape, man, trying to get
back in that game shape.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
I haven't played a lot in the last months. I
was wanting to be back.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
In shape to eighteen. You said he was about two
twenty six during the season. He's down to two eighteen now.
I also have been using the last couple of weeks
to try to get in shape. I'm not quite a
too bad ye, but I'm getting close. CLO one injury update.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
We've talked a lot about Dallas Stars, a Denver Nuggets side.
Who's the head coach Adamanda for the Nuggets, Peyton Watson,
Anthony Stopper and Spencer Joe Yes. Uh, the hope is
they'll both play in Game one, but I think as
recently as just an hour or two ago, the head

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coach said neither is cleared yet to play, even though
both The hope is that both will and I and
and and you mentioned the key on Watson. What Watson
in theory represents on a team that's not very good
defensively is a wing guy who can defend a little
bit and might make life a little bit more difficult
for Anthony Edwards. So it's another injury issue that's sneaky

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that probably a lot of people aren't talking about because
the name doesn't trip off the tongue. But it might matter.
It might end up being a factor in this series
as well, whether he's available and how healthy he is
helping out Denver a weak defensive team on the defensive end.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
All right, we might play some more Anthony as the
week goes along. But because it's Thursday. Since we last left,
the Twins have actually played a couple of ball games.
They played one last night. They won again buck two dongs. Yeah,
and it was scored four runs. It was fast again, right, Yeah,
it was turned the TV on and there immediately up.

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They scored five runs in the first four innings, tacked
one on in the sixth to win six to zero.
Sonny Gray was flummixed. He got into it. He got
a back out of nowhere. Mick Abel who. I don't
think we're going to have Mondays with Mick on the radio.
I don't think he's that compelling. Like I was watching
his post game. Yeah, like this guy just went seven innings,

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struck out four and run or struck out ten, I
should say, scattered four hits, and I'm just like Odre
got him to smile on like one thing about to
the strikeout.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
He's like, oh, yeah, it's over here. But it was
like if Joe Mauer was in a bad mood. That's
how much energy make Abel had. Doesn't make him a
bad guy or not pitcher, but.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
I was looking, doesn't look like you got a lot
of extra trying to get to know him. Yeah, yeah,
you know, I'm trying to get to know him. Right.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
So the Twins won last night six zero. They could
not sweep though the Red Sox. They lose nine to five.
Today they got down nine to one scored for late
Trevor's story with a dong for the Red Sox had
five runs batted in today.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Who was the Red Sox hitter who may have already
filed the worst ball strike appeal decision since that new
system has been implemented.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
It was.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
It was on strike three and it was literally a
pitch all but down the middle, and he tapped his talent.
It was all it was. Yeah, it's see even I'm
falling into the trap now. I'm more fascinated with that
than the fact that you two dongs and scored for
I think scored four runs last night. We got we

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got laughed out of the gym today though correct as
you say, yes, so the winning streak is over, but
they are still in first place in the American League Central,
a game ahead of Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Eleven and eight is the record, and.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
The homestand continues with the Cincinnati Reds coming to target Field.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
The Cincinnati any good.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
They're ten and seven, not bad, not bad so, and
it's gonna be nice at the ballpark tomorrow. Yeah, it's
supposed to be nice tomorrow and Friday, and then forty Saturday, right,
and then back to seventy again Monday or Sunday.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
I think Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
There's have one crappy day this weekend, but yeah, more
summer like weather for the folks who can't get it,
can't wait to get a hold of the two dollars
beer and the ever more substantial target Field menu as well,
is that it.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I can't give you the nugget that Shams's report that
the NBA is looking into the LaMelo ball trip bam
at a baio that popped about an hour ago or so,
and so we'll see if there's anything that comes with that.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I my guess is he'll be fined heavily. I don't
think he'll be suspended. I lean towards not believing he
should be suspended. I know it is a bad play.
It was a dirty play, and it was missed on
that occasion. I'm not interested in expanding replay even more
to say, well, he should be able to even if
there's no stoppage of play, you know, the eye in

(09:31):
the sky or the folks in Secaucus should be able
to push a button to say we gotta know.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
I don't agree with that.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
It's it's that's that prisoner of the moment stuff that
we lose our minds over. Was it unfortunate for Miami. Yes,
he's obviously their most important player. They were still in
position to steal the damn game until they weren't. And
then LaMelo down the stretch was masterful. You know, he's
he's playing great, he's at that's the best he's played
probably in his career. And Charlotte actually looks like a

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basketball team now. War's watching it very least.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
And their arena last night and the whole vibe reminded
me so much early of twenty twenty two Timberwolves. This
question just a fun team. Crowd is one hundred percent
behind it. The place is just ravenous. It's a great game.
You make the plays. No one jumped on the scores table,
I don't think. But Bridges makes the block and then

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he's just mobbed by his teammates. That's what's fun.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
When a team seemingly comes out of this abyss like
Charlotte has been in.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
That was cool. That's something, Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
That what happens wants so to speak, exactly any in
any market, and God knows they've suffered enough.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Right in five years, they'll be mad that there's still
the six seed like we are here should be.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
But at the beginning of it, it's a lot of fun,
all right.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
We got a couple of texts to discuss, and then
we've got Kessler coming up at five thirty. Also when
we return today, Today is the forty third anniversary of
the single greatest newspaper headline ever offered up. We've talked
about it before on the show, but why not to

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celebrate it once again?

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Stay tuned.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Join the excitement at the Vikings draft party April twenty third,
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all while taking in the action of the first round
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now at vikings dot com slash Draft Party. I still

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wish we had I know this era has gone by
and it's over and it's never coming back, the golden
age of American newspapers. I still wish we had a
tabloid in this town, or at one point might have
had a daily tabloid.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
This town could use one, but it's hard to top
the New York tabloids, especially that's certainly when it comes
to headlines. And this is a headline we've celebrated on
this show before. Maybe on another anniversary. I don't know,
because it's from forty three years ago, on this day,

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today's April fifteen, correct tax to tax day, April fifteen,
nineteen eighty three. The legendary New York Post managing editor,
the late Vincent A. Musseto wrote this headline front page
New York Posts headless body in topless bar. Here's the subhead.

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Gunman forces woman to decapitate tavern owner. I mean that
in itself isn't bad, is it?

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah? That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Gunman forces woman to decapitate tavern owner headless body in
topless bar. I mean you could you know, Little Danny
Barrero's newspaper career began as a copy editor, which meant
that you'd edit stories that would come in from the writers,

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and then you would be asked to write a headline
for said story.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
It's an art man.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Good headline writing is challenging because you know, it can't
go on. The headline can't go on forever. It's got
to fit. This is back in the days when there
was an actual newspaper that was printed. Those are also
days about that. They are gone by in some cities,
and we'll be here soon as well. There's no question
about that or eventually. So it's got to fit. It

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can't just be you can do a run on sentence forever.
It's not a conversation. It's not a conversation.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
It's a headline.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
And I mean to me, you write a headline that
vivid and that good and that effective, you just you
retired at that point, no matter how young or old
you are. You just say that's it because I'm not
going to ever be able to top that headline or
you chase it the rest of your career. I guess
you could. I guess you could have headlines that individual wrote.

(14:16):
I don't know, but I will. I will tell you this.
The once upon a time Miami, there was an afternoon newspaper.
To the kid, do I have to explain to the
kids what an afternoon a PM newspaper is?

Speaker 4 (14:25):
So back in the.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Day, there were what we call in the business morning newspapers.
It would be published overnight and it would appear on
your doorstep the next morning, or it could be in
newspaper boxes.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
I probably have to explain newspaper boxes. There used to
be boxes.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
All all around whatever metro town you're in, lock locked
up where the newspapers were inside. And if you didn't subscribe,
but you wanted a copy of that morning's newspaper, you
put in a quarter.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
You put in a lot of times. You had to
have exact.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Change, which could be frustrated. Yes there, and you couldn't
really use dollars. And then you'd lift the lid and
you'd take one paper out. If you cheated, you took
two or three for whatever reason. Did you take one
paper on?

Speaker 3 (15:08):
And you better make sure you got a good grip
on it because that's way came out empty and the
door set that can.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Happen, We're starting over, been there. It's exactly it.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
So the Miami market had an afternoon newspaper, and and
afternoon newspapers were basically they were put together in the
early morning. Like my I was a copy editor for
the Louisville Times, so that means getting up on average
probably about four thirty getting to the newspaper office downtown Louisville,

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Kentucky at five thirty am, and then the copy comes in,
You edit it, you write the headlines for it, then
they put it in type, and then they print it.
And so it would hit the town like early afternoon
rather than the morning paper, which obviously in the morning.

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So there was such a thing as an afternoon newspaper.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Definition.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Miami had an afternoon paper called the Miami News. And
the famous story that's very very creative. The Herald was
the big one in the you know, in the morning,
Miami News is the afternoon paper. And this headline was
not particularly creative, but it was memorable in that even

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then there were news. There was for afternoon newspapers, there
might be more than one edition. There might be an
earlier edition, and then we got one chance to update
some stuff with the freshest news because remember there was
alsoch thing as a twenty four seven twenty four hours
seven eight week news cycle. Back there was no Internet.
That's where you're going to get a lot of your
news other than from TV. And the headline, what is

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Miami's at Dade County? No, yeah, I think that's Dade County.
And the headline on the early edition one day was
Miami ties murder record. In the later edition the headline
was updated to say Miami breaks I'm not making it up,

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murder record. Now again, that's not as clever as the post.
But you want to talk about reacting in real time
to the news, I mean they were right on top
of it, and then the late late edition said Miami
shatters murder the records.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
They just continued with That's very possible. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Because the Star and Tribune. The Star was, uh no,
the Tribune tusser. Do you remember I thought the Tribune
was the morning Stars the afternoon start. Yeah, Stars Afternoon
That's what I thought too. Yeah, yeah, and then they
eventually merged. But yeah, same here, you had an afternoon
we had the Star and the Tribune.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
You had two and it was different writers, different staffs.
It's all sounds absurd today, and it wouldn't work for
all the obvious reasons, because there's too many ways you
can get whatever news you want.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
But then it was.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
The sound in the afternoon of the newspaper being thrown
by the newspaper boy hitting the screen door, the bottom
of the screen door after news newspapers arright, great sound
for me.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
I loved it. I believe that paper's here.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, you know, catch up on what might have happened
the hours before then, because there weren't as many options then, obviously, So.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
I do feel bad for those that don't never experience
the broadsheet. I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I think I'm the last generation. Yeah, I think you are.
You probably are.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
I remember the you know, you go to have breakfast
or coffee. Yes, you go the papers right there, fifty cents.
Then it was seventy five. There was probably a dollar.
Things kept going up.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, you had to get the quarters, yep, make sure
you had them, get there and just have your breakfast
whatever you want, read the paper.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
There's nothing like that. No, there isn't anything like it
at all, and nothing like it's it's especially if you're
a newspaper person and you can think back todays.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Like I said in Chicago, I've said this before, there
were four daily newspapers. Well there were more, but eventually
there were four, two in the morning, two in the afternoon,
and I got them all. I mean it was very
enjoyable to me.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Well, think about how my life would have been different
had my if my dad had to throw down his
phone or tablet. Yeah, and say, Barrero is an ass
other than.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
The newspapers paper.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
No harm really is done, right, It's just he's slamming
the paper down. He couldn't do that with his tablet
or his phone when he was mad at something you wrote,
Now breakfast the damage. Yeah, yeah, that's very true. My
vivid memory, he probably wouldn't have even said anything. Honor
mentioned for headlines when the Gophers missed out on a
bid for the San Antonio Bowl game, forget the Alamo?

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Is that true? That does sound right?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
It's a good headline.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yes, I do remember.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
That's a really good headline if true. I mean, I
that's impressive. I I got to say, that's very very
creative for sure.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
That one. I'm not going to read whether it's accurate
or not. Let's do that.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
We have Kessler right around the corner brats on Brian
Kfein text line is open at six four six eighty six.
I think last week we talked meat raffles. But there's
a meat raffle update we have to get to, as
requested by a frequent listener of the of the program.

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But there's a lot to get to a section wise,
both locally, regionally and nationally as as well. Where's the
other headline?

Speaker 4 (20:34):
I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Don't drop your wallet in an adult newspaper box either,
like Lloyd Christmas. Is that true?

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Did he do that? I don't know. I don't remember
that name. Dumb and dumb?

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Is that I don't I don't remember that. I'm not
a great dumb and dumber mind compared to a lot
of people. Yeah, I feel like I should know that.

Speaker 7 (20:56):
Well.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
By the way, there's also another elevator story. Do you
remember the David sinn An elevator story here? No, I
think the story was obviously this would have been a
weekend I think I guess it could have been if
he could have been filling in during the week, but
he was coming up the elevator here to work a shift,
and he dropped his wallet while he's riding up in

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the elevator, and it somehow falls right into the slot
down all the way down to the bottom of the
elevator system. And so, as I recall it, Abbott had
to get you know, somebody from security to find a
way to get down there, down in the ink well
that this thing was below, on the lowest level, to

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recover retrieve David Sinecon's wallet. It's nice warning be prepared,
don't have that wallet out. I don't worry about that
all the time. I do too, and that's the reason
because I keep remembering that particular story. Kessler wouldn't have
to worry about that because he never carries his wallet,
doesn't need it, doesn't need it, and give give him
stuff he doesn't pay for anything, is what I was told.

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Let's make this our bottom of the hour pause. We'll
talk special k in just a minute here and there.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
I wish the American media would take a great look
at the views that the people in Congress and find
out how they call America or anti.

Speaker 8 (22:14):
America, I Guessler, because people have got to know whether
or not their presidents are crop.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
I can't trust Obama. He's a Pussler. Tear down the
dish wall. I did nothing wrong at the Minneapolis Airport.
Senator Yo, No Jack Kennedy, that Kussler and now to
help Dan break.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Down all the tough questions in politics.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
It's our own Guessler political walk.

Speaker 7 (22:43):
I feel like a supermodel, except like Times ten, it's
Channel fours Pan Kussler with Dan morero on the fan.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Shuttle ramp, A guy rights Garon sheed. One of the
most memorable headlines for me when Rashid Wallace guaranteed a
Pistons Finals win.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
That's good. Oh that's a guaran sheeed.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Get it, Kessler. I'm a little disappointed in you. You've
got all kinds of newspaper headline. You got a book,
but you didn't bring it today.

Speaker 8 (23:21):
You know I did not. I am a I am
a newspaper collector. I have hundreds and hundreds of newspapers.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
Why.

Speaker 8 (23:30):
I have no idea, but I go back one hundred
plus years, one hundred and fifty years. So I love headlines.
I love really good headlines. And I have a book
of headlines, and I meant to bring it to you
and read to you from it, but I will do.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
That in the future.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Well that's there. They can be discussed pretty much anytime.
You're right about that.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Now.

Speaker 8 (23:55):
I mean in politics, there are so so many great
headlines the young people. You might not remember this, but
New York City back in the day almost went bankrupt.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Oh yes, the and the.

Speaker 8 (24:07):
Famous headline Ford President Ford, Ford to city, drop dead.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
That's so west tab was that end?

Speaker 8 (24:17):
Do we know?

Speaker 4 (24:17):
That was the post of the daily. That was the post.

Speaker 8 (24:20):
And then when bringing it to current day, when your
guy mom Donnie came to visit President Trump in order
to butter him up, and it worked. Mom, Donnie's a genius.
They're super genius.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
It's unbelieva.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
They're hitting the bars again.

Speaker 8 (24:35):
Trump it loves him, so he brings a mock up
of the headline.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
He brings an old one.

Speaker 8 (24:41):
That says drop dead, but then it says Trump to
city on the mock up, build bigger.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Oh he loved it. Oh my god, he loved it.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
I think we talked about this before, maybe even with you.
There's an underrated motion picture and I think was directed
by rob On Howard called The Paper, and it's about
basically twenty four hours in a New York tabloid newspaper's life.
Michael Keaton is one of the stars. The cast is

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all starish. I'll go through some of the other names
in it. And it's a fun little movie. I wouldn't
exactly call it realistic when it comes to the way
the news is put together, but it was had some
elements of the troupe, but it was a lot of
fun and it was it kind of played off of
the ongoing agitation and tension between, for example, the New

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York Times, which was called what the Gray Old Lady?
The old gray Lady and the tabloids right, which said,
we're down and dirty. You can look down on us
all you want. And one of the subplots is Keaton
is at the tabloids, but he's being wooed by the
editor of the New York Times, and so for him

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it's that inner battle of what do.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
I want to do?

Speaker 2 (26:03):
I got the New York Times calling me, But am
I at my essence? Is that a little too pompous
for me? Am I actually a tabloid by guy. So
that's part of the story. He's got to decide what
he's going to do. Is he's being wooed by then
the most famous newspaper in the country.

Speaker 8 (26:20):
I thought that movie did portray and I never worked
at a newspaper, big city newspaper, but I thought it
did kind of capture what frantic.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
Nature was it?

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yes, some it crazy.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
They baked a lot of stuff, stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
That jet would take like ten months to get done.
From a reporting standpoint, they got done in two hours. Sure,
but it was a very fun movie. It's a very
entertaining film.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
And little known fact.

Speaker 8 (26:48):
I mean, I still love the Post and the Daily
News in New York. These are tabloids, and by tabloid
sometimes in Chicago.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
What we mean by that is that they're small enough.

Speaker 8 (27:00):
What are they, you know, eighteen inches by eighteen inches
something like that, maybe a little bigger so that you
can read them on the subway.

Speaker 9 (27:07):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
They open right to left instead of downward.

Speaker 8 (27:09):
Yes, And so you can read them on the subway
or on the L train in Chicago. And and so
the working man and the working woman they d rencon
thosed right off, yes, right off the news stands and
people there were news stands everywhere, not just the newspaper boxes,
which are iconic, but the news stands where someone would

(27:30):
be selling magazines and newspapers.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Look it up, kids, you can see it in the movies.

Speaker 8 (27:35):
But there was a big one in downtown Minneapolis till
really fairly recently.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, that's true, very true. All right, let's get to
some stuff include. Oh well, let me get this out
of the way first, because it's it's a request from
a from a long time listener from This is from
Lars leaf Plat. Here's what he asks of you. H

(28:00):
Can you please ask Kessler where he stands on the
meat Raffles versus Lake Superior agates as most feel good
story at the Minnesota Legislature.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Oh of course.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Do you know what he means by the the meat raffles?
I think discussed as recently last week.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Well, we discussed it in the break. We didn't. We
didn't discuss it again. We need to. This is a
big deal.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Okay, So what's the meat raffles story?

Speaker 4 (28:25):
What's going on? This is?

Speaker 8 (28:27):
I think these are like brother and sister, or sister
and sister, brother and brother, these are siblings. You know,
these are both really feel good stories. Yes they really
are feel good bills. But in this divided time, you know,
we have the meat raffle bill coming up. And we
have deep, deep polarizing divisions in our country and in

(28:48):
our state and in our legislature. So the stakes could
not be higher, Dan, the stakes could not be higher.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Thank you, You're not right for New York table. I'm waiting.
I'm waiting for this. So have you been to a
meat raffle? I never have.

Speaker 8 (29:07):
So you go to a bar the VFW. You know,
we had many of them. There's there's tons of them
in rural Minnesota, but also in the Twin Cities, and
I've been to a really good one here in the
Twin Cities. And what you do is you buy a ticket,
you know, a two dollars ticket, and then you enter
a raffle and you can if you win that raffle,
you can pick from a table of meat. We're talking

(29:33):
big meat here, so it'll be a package and in
the package there might be beefsteak.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Again, well I'm not I'm only getting more Well, yeah,
I'm only getting warm increasingly clear to me, how consciously.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
I didn't you do it? What did I just say? Nothing?

Speaker 2 (29:52):
I cannot believe a lot of big meat here. So
now what you just said, Well, I'm just what both
of you said. Now I'm just speaking for myself. You
don't want to be too small, if you know what
I mean. I can't even believe it. Can I talk.

Speaker 8 (30:07):
About a very important bill about protein at the capitol?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Go ahead, I guess all right.

Speaker 8 (30:13):
See, you buy two two dollar ticket and then you
if you win the raffle, you could there's a big
table there and you can pick back.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Do you pick the meat you want?

Speaker 8 (30:22):
Well, yeah, but there might be several There might be
a couple of pork chops.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Some beef steaks. You know.

Speaker 8 (30:27):
In my case, back in the day in rural Minnesota,
you know I would go for the blood sausage.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah, I remember you talking about that. I don't get
or the head cheese.

Speaker 8 (30:38):
So I think our listeners in outside of the Twin
Cities know what I'm talking about. So if you haven't
had blood sausage, you haven't lived. So you can get
hot dogs, you can get steak burg you.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Know, it's all there.

Speaker 8 (30:51):
It's all there, and you pick, yeah, you do, and
then the money goes to charity. It goes to the
local baseball team or the hockey team or something like that,
and whatever small town whatever.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
I thought you were at. I'm totally in favor of
this kind of game.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
I see, totally in favor that could also, but this
could lead to addiction.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
So you have an addiction, no, a meat addiction. Well
that's yes, that's what it is. That's what we're talking about. Yes,
we are so.

Speaker 8 (31:18):
I mean then you go in there and have a
couple three four ten beers and and then you just
while away the afternoon, you know with pull tabs and
bet on the raffle.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
It's it's really really fun. Anyway, here's the deal.

Speaker 8 (31:32):
So a two dollars ticket, now there's you have to
The legislature is now considering a bill to make it
five dollars for the ticket. So once again, because meat
prices have risen over the years, it has stayed the same.
The top prize was seventy dollars worth of meat. As
you know, that's nothing.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
It's a lot of meat.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
So it would ray what.

Speaker 8 (31:56):
So it would raise the prize money to two hundred bucks.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
I mean, this is great, it is well.

Speaker 8 (32:04):
I mean, I don't know if they're you know, instead
of the hot dogs that I'm used to were the
yeah head cheese, we're gonna get wagu beef. I don't
know about that, but I'm telling you it's just a
it's a it's a feel good bill.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Nobody's got a beef.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
With it, but nothing. It's gonna be a license plate
part where I think you're gonna have a harder time
with your puns that go ahead.

Speaker 8 (32:27):
And making the button bar. Yeah, well, I think I
think that that was well done. So what's the what's.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
The what's the state gemstone stuff?

Speaker 8 (32:36):
This? Yeah, well, this is a bill that it would
designate a design for a new license plate for a
state park.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
In northern Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
We don't have enough of them.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
We don't have enough state parks, no.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Enough license plates.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Well it's not like twenty five of them.

Speaker 8 (32:53):
Unbelievable, the number of ready, it's gotten unwieldy. But this
one will be great. Yeah, because it's a beautiful rend
ring of an aged you're a big agged guy. That's
the state gemstone.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
That will be the gemstone, that would be I did
not know that that was the state gemstone, did you
you know?

Speaker 8 (33:09):
I don't and I didn't until this story. Yeah, let's
I'll look it up. But no, I didn't handle that.
But on the north Shore, if you go to the
north shore. The Lake Superior. Agot is considered the gold standard,
so to speak, of stones. So this would raise money
for the park. It would celebrate the north shore. Yeah,

(33:30):
it's great.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
We don't need the parks. The President has made that clear.
We don't need to about that. Well, let me say
one thing because I'm very interested in that. But what
I thought was really interesting about this bill is that
it has two requirements.

Speaker 8 (33:43):
You must be a Minnesota resident to design this like
the Minnesota state flag, and no AI will be permitted
on this agate rendering. See, this's a big deal, man,
this is a really big deal.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Now, agos described as the striped iron colored mineral oid.
Am I pronouncing that right?

Speaker 7 (34:05):
Am?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I N E R A L O I D Okay.
I've never even heard that word before, mineral I never
heard of mineral oid. Am I pronouncing that correctly?

Speaker 4 (34:14):
I think? So I don't know that word? Okay?

Speaker 8 (34:18):
But yeah, I mean so this is something. Now here's
what I know about agate hunters. I'm just going to
say this because I have a place out in the
country near the water on the river, right, and I
ask people they go looking for agates in the Mississippi
River on lake shores all around the Twin Cities and

(34:38):
northern Minnesota in particular, and they won't reveal where they
can find the best aggots. I ask people in my
little town population sixty six, where do you look for
agots around here? That's none of your damn business, sir.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Secret. Yeah, it's a secret. You don't want to give
that away.

Speaker 8 (34:58):
Just like your your mush you know, the morel mushrooms,
you don't tell people where you find them. So the
agates are mysterious and beautiful, very much like you.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Hasn't been to a meat raffles? Is in the right
or another reminder, Dan is not one of us?

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Dan, with all the cannabis legislation, of surprise, Kesser didn't
lead with the stakes are high.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
We don't even have Do we ever get a high?
Do we ever get a high commissioner?

Speaker 7 (35:29):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Yes, that thing kind of does that settle? Well?

Speaker 8 (35:33):
You can find great meat raffles here in the Twin Cities.
I'd love for our listeners to tell us where some
of the best ones are. You can go to BFW's
Friday nights.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
I'm being invited right now. It's a really great raffle
at the Hugo Legion Post tonight. Do the show from there. Yeah,
I mean this is great.

Speaker 8 (35:50):
I have been to the ten twenty nine Bar in Minneapolis,
which is a cop bar, right, and that is a
great bar for meat raffles, and I can't remember it's
got to be Friday night, but yeah, that's a good
place to go. So there are a lot of good
meat raffles, not too many that I've seen since I
was a kid that have.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Blood sausage. So tell me, listeners, if you a lot
of people are are sickened by your blood sausage references,
but not by meat.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
No, not by that's particular.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
Do you eat sausage with breakfast people.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
What's the difference between that sausage and blood sausage?

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Quite a bit?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Da, Well, that's that's my point. I mean, that's why
I think people would distinguish between the breakfast sausage you're
talking about and blood sausage.

Speaker 8 (36:39):
A friend of the show, Andrew Zimmern, Yes, friend of
the show, Andrew Zimmern. He prepares it, but he would
know he would not she would eat it. In his
bizarre food secment.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, he's tried everything once for sure, there's no question.
All right, all right, let's get to a couple of
items before we get to your stuff. This headline bothered me,
wondering if you had any reaction to it. This from
your guy, Tom Hauser, former rival of yours friend and
rival friend. Well so you said, I think there's that story,

(37:10):
but I don't want to get into that right now.
I I don't want to create an uncomfortable situation. Here's
the headline, Walls Republican legislative leader leaders have not spoken
all session. Here's the way the story is written. When
asked by a five eye win his news this was

(37:31):
at a brief meeting with reporters at the state capitol
yesterday if he's been meeting with legislative leaders and recent
he said, yeah, we met yesterday morning. Our team is
meeting every day, the leadership and the legislative team. After
some checking, according at least to Houser, it was a
pretty intrepid reporter, it turns out the meeting on Monday

(37:52):
was only with DFL Senate Majority Leader Aaron Murphy and
DFL House leaders Actevemensen. According to House and Senate Republican sources,
House Speaker at least a damouth and Republican Sentimnority leader
Mark Johnson haven't spoken with the governor since at least September.
Sources say they will finally meet with the governor on Thursday,

(38:13):
just over a month before the session deadline.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Now, you and I have talked about this before.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
It strikes me that if you go back and I
don't know if this is the sign of the times
that were in in fact, because there was just I mean,
you know, if your walls, you want to meet with
people who have voted for your impeachment, I don't know.
I think that vote died. It went eight to eight,
It went right along company party lines. But there's still
a part of me and you covered them. I think

(38:40):
if you go back to several other administrations, certainly going
back to the Dayton days, I think I think the
Teapot dates, it didn't even if they had to hold
their nose, if they didn't like the person across the
room from them, didn't they at least have unofficial meetings. More,
how do we how do we get anywhere if nobody's

(39:02):
talking to one another through intermediacy?

Speaker 8 (39:04):
You know, you and I did talk about this a
couple of months ago when we heard that the Speaker
of the House, Lisa Damuth, had not spoken to the
governor in many, many months. Governor Walls has a press
conference on Monday, and he said, yeah, I met with
legislative leaders earlier today. They asked him, because you've got
to figure out is this going to end? Are they
going to land this legislative plane. What I love about

(39:26):
the Hauser story on KSDP is that he thought, man,
this doesn't sound right because I'm hearing that you're not
meeting with them. So he goes around and talks to people.
Turns out when Governor Walls says that he is meeting
with legislative leaders, he is.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Just the Democrats.

Speaker 8 (39:44):
So that's a little disingenuous, and it's I think rais
is a very important question. What are we doing here
if we are not meeting with the people, not just
that we don't agree with, but that we don't like
that much. Now I can give a little slack, not
much Governor Walls. Man, he has been hammered over the

(40:08):
last year or so, in particular the last few months,
and you know, let's all agree that he has been
through a lot of stuff. But now we are in
the middle toward the end of a legislative session. And
if you're not meeting with the people, if the Republicans
in particular don't know exactly what the governor wants from
the governor's lips, then I don't know. It doesn't seem

(40:32):
like it's going to end very well. And in this case,
they don't have to pass a big state budget, so
it's very possible.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
You know what we're going to get out of the session.

Speaker 8 (40:43):
Although everybody wants to do something about safety and guns
and all this, we're going to get the meat raffle
bill and the aged Bill's essentially we're going to get.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
That's all we can get.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I mean. It's to feel good, so worry and it's
being represented as well. It's refreshing that they can work
across the work together. But if that's the extent of it.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
As nice as those stories are, we're doomed pretty much.

Speaker 8 (41:08):
So I think Houser's story is an important one just
to kind of put a marker on this, just pin
this one so that you can come back to it
to realize that are we really making any progress?

Speaker 4 (41:24):
And it doesn't sound like it. Oh Lord.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
JD. Vance, the Vice President of the United States, fresh
off a highly successful series of negotiations with Iranian leaders
and with his effort to prop up the strong Man
of Hungary or Hungary that went well. I think he
got humiliated in the election.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Great story.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
He's back at it. He says he is in the
process of opening an investigation into the pizza Gate conspiracy
theory after he read strange words involving pizza and grape
soda in the Epstein files.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
You're making this up.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Vance is now publicly pledged to follow up on this matter.
I remember it sounding like the Pizzagate conspiracy theory. We
should absolutely investigate you. I am told this is not
an onion story. Can you confirm it?

Speaker 4 (42:16):
I cannot.

Speaker 8 (42:16):
This is the first I've heard, and let me. I'm
going to pretend I'm smoking a cigarette and that I'm
that I'm Ron Burgundy.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
I don't believe you. I I it's being presented. I
got We're here. I gotta look this up being being true.
He's also on this hot hot streak. He's on.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Just within I think it may even meant the same
session said. One of the things he's most he's proudest
of is basically cutting off aid to Ukraine. So that's
that's a notch in your belt in your favor.

Speaker 8 (42:56):
I I just I don't quite understand what is going
on here.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (43:00):
The The headline from a lot of this is that
jd Vance h helping out President Trump tells the Pope
to shut up the shut up a religion talk.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Yeah, this religion stuff.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
I'm a Catholic, and so I'm telling.

Speaker 8 (43:18):
You, you know, will you just stay in your lane?

Speaker 4 (43:22):
But I I'm looking here. I just want to make sure.
So am I making up this story? I? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
You can't find it.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
I don't what do I look under? Look under jd
Vance Pizzagate?

Speaker 8 (43:36):
Uh huh and it's am I going to be flagged
by the company for doing this?

Speaker 4 (43:42):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Let me see, let me get more info about the Yeah,
let's individual I think I think, uh, I think there's
some truth to it, but we'll double check.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
I was told this was not he said, So Jay, Okay,
here's here's about it.

Speaker 8 (43:58):
Okay, So he is saying, pardon me, yes, he is
saying that the certain details in the recently released Jeffrey
Epstein files resemble the debunked Pizzagate conspiracy theory.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
When can I expect your apology.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
I don't think he called it debunked. You're calling it
that's you know, I'm just reading the news. I mean,
that's all I'm doing.

Speaker 8 (44:26):
So this was during the Turning Point USA event at
University of Georgia yesterday.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
That's about Ukraine. Yeah, which was very sad, by the way.

Speaker 8 (44:35):
I mean, how many people did they have there? Yeah,
I mean a couple of dozen. Yeah, I mean, so
there is a reference in an email from the Epstein
files that mentions pizzas and grape sodas.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
So he said it sounded like a Pizzagate conspiracy theory.
Blah blah blah. I mean, I don't know, man, why
are we talking about. I mean, I just got my eye.
I guess rhetorically, I don't mean yes, right right right now,
I got you. Yeah, I had no idea. Yeah, I
mean that is just crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
So all right, let's get a pause in top of
the hour. We're going to get to We got to
the mayor to get to We've got a bunch of
other stuff that we'll be able to mix in the
rest of the way. If you have questions for Kessler,
please pass them along to Us Bradshaw Bryan Kfein. Text
line is open.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
At six four six eight six.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Also find out if Kessler has turned on the Twins
after they lose this afternoon to break the winning stream?

Speaker 4 (45:37):
When am I going to get your apology about the Twins?

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I was going to issue it today and then they lost?
Well known win every game.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
That's true. You knew you saw it coming, didn't you.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
You and Tom Pole that were the only kid I
told you that they're better than expected.

Speaker 8 (45:55):
No, the day we had Aaron Gleimano, yeah, whom I loved,
great writer.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
But man, I was getting ticked off. I was too negative,
very negative, you know. And I told you I like
every position player here. We need a little pitching, a
little here and there. No, we need what we thought
we needed more o fench. Yeah, now it doesn't look
like it.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
You know.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
Okay, fine, all right, fine? What am I wearing? I
will believe you? Oh god, you are wearing Twins gear?
Oh my god? That free It's really cute. Man.

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Speaker 2 (47:05):
I should say that the mayor of Minneapolis, Well, he's
in the news actually for a lot of reasons, right,
because he's trying to override or intends to override the
city council veto on who was the safety commissioner.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
Yeah, on the safety commissioners. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
And the last I'd read was then the lawyers were
all trying to figure out was it would it be
legal for him to do this veto because what an
election or two ago, the voters city basically said we're
giving more power, putting more power in the hands of
the mayor, right, and this was one of the examples.

(47:43):
But there's still an open question I guess about whether
there it's legal for him to veto or is that updated?

Speaker 4 (47:48):
Do we know?

Speaker 8 (47:48):
I don't know the answer to that, but if I
were his political director, I'd say, just veto it and
then let me play out.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yeah, that's probably true. So he's also he makes the
big Time magazine list, is correct?

Speaker 8 (48:01):
Yeah, Well, I thought you were going to say he
was going to veto or consider the bath house.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
When does that? When are we going to have that?

Speaker 2 (48:08):
We're still working on that. The suggestion we had earlier
is we just get this story yesterday confirming the bad
news about Pochet Tower going into into foreclosure. There's your
bathhouse location, plenty of extra room, good real estate, you
could have several floors out.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Why not take full advantage of it?

Speaker 2 (48:30):
In the Pochet Tower, the war, the the the the
biggest bath house in the United States of America.

Speaker 8 (48:36):
They're just saying, well, maybe it would be at the
top like the Penthouse bathhouse.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
There you go, like it, right to the top? Baby,
would you.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Market it for if it goes through? Would you be
in the market?

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Absolutely?

Speaker 10 (48:50):
So, then well no, would I have have that as
a sponsor for my segment? Who's to say, I don't know, yeah,
we're over and then and then I would then have
to go there to figure out, you know, to be
able to speak about my sponsor.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
Of course you drug.

Speaker 8 (49:08):
Fueled sex or g So if you're at the top
of the Fauchet and it's all glass, that.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Wouldn't matter what you're up there, that drones can be
in nineteen twenty nine, your way up up there, you're
only on floor twenty nine and the rest of the sky.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
True enough, Okay, it's a beautiful building. By the way, architecturally,
I think, yeah, very distinctive building, absolutely gorgeous. So yeah,
your guy, Jacob Frye.

Speaker 8 (49:32):
Once again U is getting honored or outside the Twin Cities,
a prophet outside the Twin City see is named as
he's on the Time magazine list of one hundred most
influential people for twenty twenty six.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
And it's broken up into a whole bunch of different things.

Speaker 8 (49:52):
You know, You've got entertainers, politicians, business people, movie stars,
and he's on the politician and on the list includes
Donald Trump, Benjamin dett, Yahu, Mom, Donnie, your guys, Jezing Ping,
you know. So he is on this pretty high powered,
high octane list because of his actions during the ice,

(50:19):
the ice, the metro surge, and I think you don't
have to like it, but I mean, this was crazy
and he had to step up in real time to
figure out what to do as we are invaded by
federal agents masked like swat teams with rifles and unmarked

(50:40):
cars taking people off street. What do you do if
you are the mayor of a major metropolitan city. So
they had to do stuff in real time. Remember this
was only a few days after he was inaugurated for
his final term as mayor when all of this stuff
really hit. So you know that Minneapolis and Minnesota really

(51:04):
rose to the challenge and I think inspired the rest
of the country saying no, you can't do this here,
and the mayor was only part of the face of it.
And he rightly says, no, it's not me. It's the
four hundred and twenty five thousand people in the city
of Minneapolis that did this. But he led the city
through one of its most challenging times during the first

(51:28):
couple of the months of this year, particularly with the violence,
the tear gas and the killings of two the United
States citizens and Minneapolis residents.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
So there you go. I mean, Pope Leo's on the list. Also,
by the way, that's eerie that you brought up pelp Leo,
because I'm looking at a headline now where I want
to go next.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
This is via the Wall Street Journal. Why Pope Leo
is such a challenging opponent for Trump? Pontif is more
popular than the president and is a methodical political operators.
So what was the call we were talking about earlier?
Guards He uh, oh, the accusation that this soft on
crime is the best. I have no idea, but the

(52:14):
here's the lead dayline Rome. Not since Napoleon has a
political leader taken on the Pope as openly as President Trump.
Like Pope Pious the seventh, who ultimately outlasted the French Emperor.
Pope Leo the fourteenth, is proving a challenging opponent for
the President. The mild manner Ponted from Chicago is facing

(52:35):
the biggest test of his papacy in a fight with
Trump over the Iran War, and he isn't folding so
far as Trump, and not Leo, who has taken criticism
from Roman Catholics in the US and elsewhere over their
public spat. Now, the split within MAGA that seems to
be widening in some areas is directly related to this,
is it not? Thet There were the Easter, the profane

(52:57):
Easter tweets. Then there then there is this battle taking
on the pope. Even some of his core constituency seems
bothered by this. He had the then, the the the
the image of him looking like a religious figure who

(53:17):
was healing someone. He claimed, I'm just I was just
playing Marcus Well, I was playing a doctor.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
What's the big deal. I'm just a doctor. Do you
watch the Pit?

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Although they withdrew the tweets, well, let's talk about it.

Speaker 8 (53:31):
I mean, it wasn't some religious figure. It was Jesus
of Nazareth healing the sick. So this wasn't This wasn't
a religious figure. I thought I was just I was
a doctor there. So I watched the Pit, which is
a great program on streaming the Pit based in an

(53:53):
emergency room in downtown Pittsburgh, and I saw a meme
and it was great. All the doctors gathered around the
body and there we're all wearing Jesus robes. That's where
we're going with this. We're all going to wear Jesus robes. Now,
how can we believe this? It's infuriating to think that
we are dumb enough to accept that, No, that's not Jesus,

(54:16):
that's me as a doctor. Don't pee on my leg
and tell me it's raining that this is infuriating. So
all of these insensitive, profane, blasphemous tweets, smearing the Pope,
belittling Catholics, blaspheming Jesus, it's all insulting. It's shocking, it's

(54:39):
hurtful and the Pope is responding to him. Then when
he rips the Pope saying you're weak on crime, Well,
I guess maybe you just want Iran to have a
nuclear bomb.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
I liked his brother better. I like his brother better,
and he likes me. Correct.

Speaker 9 (54:58):
I just here's the his Is this unhens dan, I'm
asking this? Yeah, this is unhelf evidence behavior. Here's what's
Here's the part that interests me more. Actually, uh, and
it's in this particular story.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
They note that the growing disorder in world politics is
an opportunity for the Catholic Church to repair its standing
as a moral authority, which has suffered in recent decades
from the long running scandals over clerical sexual abuse, say
some observers of the Vatican. For Leo, this is just
a huge blessing, is the way. One of the individuals,

(55:33):
one of the this is the director of the Apia Institute,
a Rome based geopolitics think tank, has said it's wonderful
for the church all over the world that he is
the guy who can stand up to Trump. This is
part of what this opportunity affords because those issues have
been very embarrassing to the Church, and from a pr standpoint,

(55:55):
was a big loss. I'm not saying that all this
all gets fixed, but it does give. That's the irony
of this thing. It does give. And I don't know
how consciously the Polpe's doing this, but it does give him,
as the leader of the Catholic Church, a chance to
to sort of try to take the soul called higher
road here and move away from the discussion that we've

(56:18):
talked about in this show Forever at we used to
have the froc toy man in the days a bit
on this show. The the you know, I'm talking about
the sexual abuse scandal in the church.

Speaker 8 (56:27):
Yeah, So the church has tried to address this, and
it's doing it in more in better ways. Still has
a ways to go, but you're absolutely right. This will
lower the temperature on some of that because he is
preaching the Gospel. This is someone who is pretty frontally
addressing some of the questions that many Catholics in the

(56:50):
United States have and now many Christians who are the
basis of support for President Trump and for the Pope.
To suggest that President Trump is not acting like a
Christian or not a Christian is shocking to hear from
a pope when he says that I do not fear

(57:14):
the Trump administration. That is also uplifting for many Catholics
who are really concerned about what appears to be an
amorl and irreligious administration. There's no way that so many
people are going to take President Trump at his word

(57:35):
and say he is the most religious president in history,
that kind of thing. So I don't know where this goes,
but yes, the Pope has an opportunity here and he
is seizing it in person with his own words to
preach the Gospel of Jesus in the face of not

(57:56):
just opposition but criticism and really hard words from the
President and his administration.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Here's your guy from with John Thune very much. The
majority of here from South Dakotauth Dakota urged the President
to leave the church alone after Trump sharply criticized the
pope over.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
The war in Iran.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
I'm trying to get the direct quote because it was
pretty frontal. Basically basically basically said that.

Speaker 8 (58:27):
This is his job because they told him, they called
the Pope the president in advance to shut up and dribble.
They told him literally to stay in his lane, including
the Speaker of the House, the deeply religious Mike Johnson
says that wars are just, and that this war in Iran,

(58:49):
that we are indiscriminately bombing not just military targets, but
civilian targets and killing children. They say this war is just,
and that the Pope doesn't understand theology that some wars
are just. This doesn't fit in that category. Astar as
I'm concerned I should mention war. I should mention too.

(59:11):
Thune also ripped JD. Vance in this regard because Vance said,
getting in, you know, doing the old If Trump does it,
I got to do it. Vance mentioned that the pope
should be quote careful when discussing theology, and the response,
I think it's very important for the pope get the

(59:32):
exact quote here. Hold on, Yeah, I think it's very
very important for the pope to be careful when he
talks about matters of theology, and and Thune said.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Isn't that his job. I'd stay focused on economic issues,
pocketbook issues that most Americans care about, and let the
church be the church. And there was Trump that he
said I would leave the church alone.

Speaker 8 (59:55):
Well, you should be very careful of when you speak
about matters of theology to the pope. You're telling this
to the pope. This is through the glass darkly. We're
inside out and upside down? Or are we the president?

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
I don't want a pope and criticized as the President
of United States because I'm doing exactly what was elected
in a landslide to do, setting record low numbers in
crime and creating the greatest stock market in history. Leo
should be thankful because, as everyone knows, he was a
shocking surprise.

Speaker 8 (01:00:29):
Well, well, he's the President of the United States. Donald
Trump says that he is the reason that Leo is
the pope.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
Without me to deal would not be pope. They needed
him to allegedly deal with me.

Speaker 8 (01:00:43):
He actually said that, yes, and so the Holy Spirit
descended upon the in conclave, and you can somebody to
deal with Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
It's got to be there. We're out of time.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
God bless you. You go to the Twins game today?
Oh no, I did not.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
That's why you're fraud You talk big about all the.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Well, how about can you just give me a little
grace on this. I love the Twins.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Is that okay, it's okay, But I mean, you don't
ever show up, so do you really?

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
You're all thees Paul Ease you're gonna go? Are you
going tomorrow? Friday?

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Friday?

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
You are going? Actually?

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Another sweet, another one of the Are you in the
Champions Club? I pay for the Champions Club? How much
do you think he pays?

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Guys? So so when let's just watch you with your
buddy Hank or who you going with?

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Who shot? What is that's shots fired? Let me know
next Twins game calls from your spot?

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
Well, yeah, well you'll see me just behind home plate.

Speaker 10 (01:01:44):
So then I'll call you in wave.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Will you have you? Will you have the winnings from
your for your meat? Raffle? Can you hold it up? Okay?

Speaker 8 (01:01:54):
We got it from the champions don't we have to
go to a meet raffles. And while we're there, have
a couple of beers and design and Agate license plates.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
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Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
It's the bumper to bumper show rap.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Do you ever see the motion picture starring Jack Nicholson
called The Shining? That's not your kind of movie. I
don't think it's not filming.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
Enough of it? Is the story true? Some kind of
uh for whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
A photo just came up at a site called All
the Right Movies and it's a behind the scenes photo
of the Shining and in the picture it features probably
Jack Nicholson, and I think Shelley Duval plays his wife
in the film. Are the stories true that Shelley Duval
called the whole experience a horror story in of itself?

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
Or is that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Am I making that up? I don't know, something we
could look up overnight. Of those things happen sometimes where sure,
you know, you watch a movie and you assume everybody's
in on it and everybody's enjoying doing it, and then
you find out after the fact, not so fast, my friend,
that for whatever reason, one of the stars hated it
or felt abused, or didn't like particularly working with the

(01:03:14):
other actors or whatever. I have to look that up.
It's it's stuck in my mind for some Reason's oral
histories are very good that you know, a horror story
within a horror story, you know, that kind of a life.
How many soundbites do you think Kessler offered, especially the
beat real section. Yeah, you'll probably be included.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
It probably will be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Yeah, yeah, you guys, you've filled it up for him.
Thank you Mike Conley who started the program. He was
right at the top of the show today. Good stuff
from him on very honest stuff about the current condition
of the Wolves and this season and what might be
coming ahead. Tim call show the Great Stars, Dallas Stars
scouting report at four h two out of Dallas and
Pat Kessler joined as usual at five point thirty. Tomorrow

(01:03:57):
is a Russo day. What else do we have tomorrow?

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Just the inbox. We're working on a couple other things.
That's even better. Fan on demand on the air is next.
We will talk to you tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (01:04:06):
Three change this space, Be happy, Enjoy,