September 10, 2023 • 28 mins
Minnesota Tim brings on a few friends from the relegation fantasy football podcast to react to the Minnesota Vikings crushing opening loss vs. the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
The Minnesota Vikings lose Opening Day against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
and I just have a few things to say after
their big opening day loss, and we are going to
dive into that shortly. And my first takeaway after the
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Vikings lose is, oh man, that's my first takeaway after
the Vikings loss. How can you all laugh after a
performance like that versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It's hilarious.
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I'm one of those guys that doesn't take Vikings games
too seriously. I'm invested, but they're not going to ruin
my day. I want them to win a Super Bowl,
but if they don't, life goes on. That's just how
I am with the Minnesota Vikings. But my first takeaway
after the Vikings loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is
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that we don't have to worry about the Vikings losing
a heartbreaker in the NFC Championship Game and the divisional
round or the wild card round because they ain't getting
that far. Folks. The Minnesota Vikings have no shot at
making the playoffs this year. My prediction before the season
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started was eight and nine, and unless some miracle happens
against Philadelphia on Thursday night football on the road and
just a couple of days the Vikings are going to
start the season zero and two. But I brought on
some friends that watch this game that are invested in
the Minnesota Vikings, and they even have their own podcast.
It's Luke Jeger, Jack Yeger. They're brosifs. I'm a distant
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brosif but boy, how you feeling are you doing? How
give me emotions? After the Vikings loss versus the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Pretty much the worst start to a season for either
of us. We're big fantasy football guys as well, so
right now it's looking like not only did the Vikings lose,
but I was playing against Kirk Cousin and Alexander Madison
so that pass to Alexander Madison was a double whammy
for me. And then they still lose, so pretty much
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a horrible, horrible day.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, Jack, what are your thoughts on the game?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Two takeaways? TJ.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Hockinson's gonna be losing touches to Oliver if he keeps
butting up thirty thirty yards three targets a game.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I like looking at him. He's kind of fun.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
And also I'm just glad we lost to a premier
quarterback like Baker.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I think in the first half the Vikings had like
three hundred yards versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers like sixty
five yards and it was a top ten ten game
at halftime. Before we continue on with the reaction to
the Vikings loss against the Buccaneers, why don't you guys
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Speaker 5 (05:07):
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Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, let's dive back into the Minnesota Vikings loss against
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Luke and Jackieger, host of
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Speaker 5 (05:21):
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Speaker 1 (05:24):
Face, called north Face, let's do it. So how much
blame do you guys put on Kirk Cousins after this
loss against the Buccaneers?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
So interesting stat came up. I don't know if anybody
saw this.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
At halftime, he was looking at two hundred and fifty
yards with three turnovers, which is the last time that
happened was in two thousand. Vinnie Testaverdi in, Yeah, two
hundred and fift yards, three turnovers, So not encouraging.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I think.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I think the biggest obstacle that Minnesota is going to
be facing this year outside of our defense, is our
O line. It looked like Kirk was getting trapped every
other play in that pocket.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Honestly, if we were to fraction out the blame, I mean,
Kirk to me, maybe gets five percent.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Like, I don't think much of it was on him.
When you look at.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Those turnovers, one of them was slapped out of his
hand by his own offensive lineman Ingram.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Right, exactly. When you look at the turnovers. How can
you blame him?
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Right, you really can't.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I mean the interception was torn out of kJ Osbourne's hands.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, when I was watching the game, Kirk has some
to blame, but he threw for like three hundred yards
in the first half. Justin Jefferson had one hundred and
thirty eight yards in the first half. What I thought
about this game, It's like the exact opposite happened last season,
where every little small thing that had to go right
last season and then some went absolutely the way it
needed to go for the Minnesota Vikings to win that game.
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They flashed it in the screen during the game. Ten
comfort behind victories last season and we finished with a
thirteen to four record. You look at this game and
it was it was a prime spot to have another
come from behind victory. We're down twenty to seventeen. The
Vikings offense has the ball with like four minutes five
minutes left in the game, and they go three and out. Yeah,
Kirk Cousins missus kJ Osborne by a foot or so
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when he was wide open for a first down, misses
them pump the ball away. The Vikings offense never gets
the ball back. It's as simple as that it was rough.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I honestly don't even know where I put most of
the blame. If offensive line is a struggle, but injuries,
I mean, losing Bradbury is losing Darisaw for a stretch.
That's tough when you already have a week offensive line.
I thought the defense played in the first half, especially,
played really well, honestly, better better than I would have expected.
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I think they just got a bit worn down by
the second half. I like this defense a lot better
than last year's. Give them fifteen yards every play and
hope to not break. I think they'll be more fun
to watch this year. But hopefully next game we get
a few more of the breaks to fall our way.
And the Eagles, Hey, hey, why not? I mean, we
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weren't expecting to lose to the Bucks. Nobody's expecting us
to win against the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Maybe, are you going to give us? Are you going
to give the Vikings a chance against the Eagles? Come on,
stand on it, stand by.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Don't spread what.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
If there I give them, I bet they beat us.
They're within a touchdown, I bet so. I bet they
beat like a five point spread.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I think we lose.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
We do love playing to our competition somebody who I
would blame pretty hard today Alexander Madison did not look good.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
He did not look good at all.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Anybody saying that Alexander Madison is going to be playing
to the caliber of what Dalvin Cook is going to
be playing to this year is sadly mistaken in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Like his touchdown, I hated his touch yeah, ending my
ending my day.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Any run, it felt like he was carrying it for
like less than two yards every time he trusted the football.
Other than that touchdown, it just didn't seem like you could.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Never find a hole.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
And I don't know if that's the old lines fault,
but it wasn't. Wasn't super impressed with matter today.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, yeah, he does seem to lack an explosiveness, and
maybe ty Chandler the back of it seems like he
has a little more explosiveness than Madison. But Delvin Cook,
he had some explosive plays last year, but he wasn't
necessarily an explosive running back for a majority of the games.
And I think that's why the Vikings got rid of him.
Plus he's getting older, Plus his contract was massive. When
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I saw this game, I saw a lot of rust
from the Vikings offense offensive line. There was some false
star penalties by Christian Darisa. We saw some other false
star penalties. We saw ed Ingram knock the ball out
of Kirk Cousin's hands. Luke, you mentioned that one, and
we saw other plays even like lining up for a
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field goal by the Buccaneers, or that Jay Ward guys
off side and then they get on mac first down. Well,
a play that was going to be a field goal
for the Buccaneers, make it thirteen to ten. Then at
seventeen to ten, Vikings side the game seventeen seventeen. Well,
if in a perfect world for the Minnesota Vikings, that
game would have been seventeen thirteen after the Vikings touched
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out because the Buccaneers kicked the field goal before. It
just seemed like there was a lot of missed opportunities,
a lot of misplays, and when you look at it,
it's like the game of football is not that complicated.
Kevin O'Connell I can guarantee what he's going to say
when it comes to the podium. He's going to say,
we had too many turnovers. We had three turnovers, We
had too many misfortunate plays and that's why we lost.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, yep, I agree. It did look it was sloppy.
And on that field goal when they showed the replay,
it wasn't just Ward. It looked like three guys on
that line were offsides. He was just in line with
all of them, and it looked like if it wasn't him,
it was three other guys.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Those are special teams. Errors are killer. Those Yeah, need
to always come back to bite you.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
What percentage chance do you give the Vikings to now
make the playoffs? They still have the Eagles, they have
the Bengals who got cream today twenty four to three
by the Browns, and then they got the forty nine
ers who just went into Pittsburgh and crushed them. Those
three teams left on the schedule, you would anticipate those
would be all three be losses. Maybe I will see
all the season goes. But I mean, I guess Luke,
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I mean I guess Luke likes our chances against the
Eagles on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
No, no, I like our chances against the spread. I'm
guessing the spread. Yes, No, I don't think we win.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
You only changed your dialogue really quickly. There you went.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
I asked you, what's the spread? I said, I think
we lose by a field goal?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
No, no, no, no. I wish I wish I could.
I wish I could. I wish I could rewind this
because then you said, who would have thought that the
Buccaneers would have came to Minnesota and beat beat us
with Baker Mayfield?
Speaker 5 (11:39):
That is true. I did say that. Yeah, I did
say that.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I so you insinuated that the Bakers were going to win,
But then you kind of try to cover up by
talking about the spread. Balls where your mouth is and
stand for an opinion.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
All right, fine, I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Bikes win, Bikes win on Thursday, taking me a score,
Vikes win. Let's go twenty seven twenty four?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Wow, yep?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Wow? Do you pear pressured a lot in high school?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
If you're pressure high school, I don't know. You tell
me yeah I did?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, Okay, wow, it didn't take a whole lot. So okay,
back to the Bain question. What percentage chance to give
the Vikings to get to the playoffs?
Speaker 5 (12:25):
You go for a check?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Oh man, that's so tough.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
The problem is, like you talked about, you know, you
got the Eagles, Cincinnati and then, and then you got
who's the third that we're probably gonna lose San Francisco.
I think I think it's a guarantee that we lose
to San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
They look tough.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I think brock Purty came out stronger than anybody expected today.
I do think that we lose to the Eagles, probably
on a bigger spread than what Luke's given. And I
unfortunately think that Cincinnati is going to turn around by
next week.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
And what do we play Cincinnati Week seven?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It's later I thought it was later in the season.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Ten something like that, because yeah, three seven to ten
for those three teams something like that. I think Bengals
have it figured out by then, and I think they throttle.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Us if we don't figure something out.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
So unfortunately, I think we lose all three of those
And if that's the case, you already owed four out
of those four games, then we have to win, you know,
a pretty good margin of the other games. If we
can't beat the Bucks, you know, are we beating teams
like Washington or are we going to beat Detroit?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
You know, right right, all those games becomes question marks
because this and theory was the easiest game to win
on the schedule right at home against Baker Mayfield, who
was in a quarterback battle all of training camp with
a guy named Kyle Trask.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
That is true, That is true.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
He's good.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I would say, I would say this is about the Bucks.
It's second year under under Todd Bowles. They might be
more underrated than previously. Like I don't think Brady was
good last year. So is is Baker currently worse than
what Brady was last year?
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah, don't.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
I don't think he is really really I would.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I mean, mister one seven, three hundred and seventy three yards,
that's like he had a pretty decent game. I think
he kind of floats around that number for the rest
of the season. Brady would have showings where he's putting up,
you know, crazy yardage.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I think Baker is worse than Tom Brady, but I
do think that the Bucks as a whole are probably
around the same level, but maybe a little bit worse,
which is discouraging for the Vikes.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Maybe it was definitely a bad loss, don't get me wrong,
but I it's early in the season.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
It's a long season. All those teams that we have
to play.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Detroit has to play to everybody in our division has
to play. If we can get one win that we're
not expected to get now and Detroit has a loss
they're not expected to have, we're back in We're back
in the same position. I think we have a weak division,
so I would say our chances, I mean, this hurts it.
I would have said we were probably fifty to fifty
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with Detroit before. We're probably now more like forty six.
But I still give us a forty percent chance to
win this division. It's one game in a long season.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, this guy, this guy's just bleaning purple over here.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Before the season, when do you think of this takeaway?
I got Green Bay Packers with a better record over
the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Interesting, It's definitely interesting.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I think it's I think it's a hot take. I do,
but I.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Sir or not. Are you sipping the yeager or not
sipping the yeager?
Speaker 5 (15:30):
I'm not sipping that, Jaeger. I'm I'm no.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Bikes are gonna I think bikes are better than Green
Bay and Chicago.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
I think it. I think it's gonna come down to
us in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
And.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I mean, it's the division is a weird division. I
think we're all we're a fairly weak division. Everybody's gonna
be somewhere between six wins and ten wins, and it's
gonna who knows who's gonna land where. But right now
I would I'm projecting we win the division, probably with
only nine wins.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah, wow, I think I do think Detroit.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Uh, that's all hold? Sorry, sorry, Luke. I think that's
a hotter take than the Green Bay Packers take of
having a better record than the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
The winning with nine or the Vikings winning the division
winning with nine.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
What was the worst division record to get in last year.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
I'm sure it wasn't there. I would have met.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I think Bucks got in with eight wins or seven
wins or something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Were they under five hundred, Yeah they were, so they
would have been eight and nine.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
I'm guessing they weren't seven to ten.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I can't remember, But I do think there will be
divisions that get in with nine wins. I don't I
think if we don't win the division, I don't think.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
We make the wild cards.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
So Bucks got in last year with an eight and
nine record.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Eight and nine records, so I think I think nine
and eight there will be a division that does that,
and I think we might be that.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I'm not buying into the Detroit Lions as much as
some people might be after beating Kansas City. The reason
being is that, yeah, it was an amazing win for them.
It's definitely gonna help the record overall, but putting up
twenty two points and everybody's saying that Detroit is about
to be a super explosive offense before the season starts.
You did beat Kansas City, but also not a great defense,
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especially without Chris Jones. Jones there right, and then Kelsey's
not Patrick Mahomes is probably missing out on what two touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
They had a wide receiver that gave the Lions like
fourteen points.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Yeah, true, Yeah, I do like a Monra but outside
and Jami or Gibbs will start getting more touches, I think.
But I don't think Detroit is as good as people
are projecting them to be. So I do think that
we have a chance against Detroit. I do think we're
going to be better than the Bears. And I don't
buy Jordan Love or any of the Packer hype, even
if they do have a good defense either. So I
don't think it's that hot. I'm still I'm still here
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for a nine and eight record to make play.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Oh oh wow, I got the Vikings at a and
nine before the season. I love your guys as hot takes.
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I love it. Kirk Cousins is this is last year
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for the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I think the safest bet ist bet he'll be playing
somewhere else next year. But my gut tells me, My
gut tells me he'll be back. I think, depending on
what's out there. I don't think we're gonna have a
good enough pick to have a rookie that we want
starting with Justin Jefferson in his prime, and if Cousins
has a bad year, we get him on a discount.
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And maybe if he has a good year, he says,
you know what, I have a few years left.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I see my chance here. I like living in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
He seems like a guy who likes to be settled
and he might take a hometown discount.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I feel like a lot of it depends on your
prediction for the Minnesota Vikings record this season. Like if
you have the Vikings at nine and eight and winning
the division, well, the likelihood that Cousins is back is
probably higher than if the Vikings went four and fourteen
or four and thirteen and and you know, stunk up
the joint.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Oh, then he's definitely gone, because then then we're getting
Caleb william Yes, that's.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
What I was just going to say. Games of the season.
I think we tank and go for Caleb Williams.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Really, I don't know, Jack visit Relegation podcast, put your
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Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I think after after the Philadelphia game, if we really
get smoked, I think it's going to give us a
good perspective on what the other games are going to entail.
I don't think at any point we're going to tank.
I still think we're probably finishing third art Division, which
means that you know, we're not We're not getting Caleb Williams,
And that's considering we are losing more than I expect
us to.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
But yeah, yeah, well you're looking at the you think
he stays.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Get back to me on that one. Yeah, no, no, no,
I'll come with the take. I think he stays one
more season. I don't think we want to throw a
rookie quarterback in there. I think the Vikings are gonna
go the old route where you have Kirk Cousins start
in front of a rookie quarterback one year, and then
the rookie quarterback is push into the starting lineup the
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following year. The good thing about the quarterback that's coming
in for the Vikings is all the weapons that are
around him. So maybe Kevin O'Connor would just thrust him
into the starting lineup right away because he got Jefferson,
you got Hawkinson, you got Addison, you got weapons around
a rookie quarterback to come into the Minnesota Vikings and succeed.
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But it also requires you to select a quarterback with
a first round pick instead of waiting till the third
or fourth or fifth round unless there's someone you really
really like. But if it's somebody really liking the third
or fourth or fifth round, is they are they really
starter quality? Their first year coming into the NFL. I
mean Brock pretty, I mean Brock pretty, but I feel
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like he's more of an outlier than Wilson. Well, okay, well,
now you guys are just making a case against which
makes me look not good when fine, why and fine fine,
I've been holding onto material for a while. Jack. The
Bengals don't play the Bikings still week fifteen. It's not
Week seven, it's not week ten. Okay, and Luke, you're
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laughing at Jack. The Packers don't play the forty nine
ers this year. I think they played the Bengals. They
don't play two of those three hard teams the Vikings
are playing this year. So let me get that off
my chest.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
You got me as well.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, well, you guys came back after me. So I
just can't. I just can't get out of this anymore.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Hey, if we're going to dish it, we got to
be able to take it.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Oh, I love it, Bring it, bring it.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Gonna say back to the Kirk Cousins things. One of
the hosts on our podcast, Andy Andy Peterson, he thinks
Cousins is gone and he thinks Kyler Murray is the
Vikings starting quarterback. Cardinals lose, they get Caleb Williams, let
Kyler walk, or trade him and the Vikes.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
The Vikes get him.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
The Cardinals played tough against the Commanders today. I don't
see that happening. I don't see the Vikings trading for
Kyler Murray. I think that's more of a why wouldn't
you just keep Kirk Cousins if you're gonna trade for
Kyler Murray. Yeah, I don't know ky Kyler his reputation
isn't very good around the league where he wants to
play more cod than actually watch game tape. He had
some injury history. He scrambles around quite a bit, could
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get hurt on one play, and it could flip your
entire season. That couldn't happen to every quarterback, but specifically
a scrambling quarterback like Kyler Murray. It seems like that
would happen more too.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
No, I don't hope that happens. I think that would
be a bad trade for the Vikes. We'd have to
give up draft capital and much rather have Cousins.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
I'm not a fan of Kyler, not at all.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, but he is he is younger, he's athletic. I
don't know what what Connell is looking for in his
perfect QB or do.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
But so are you guys gonna go with Jordan Addison's
offensive Rookie of the Year After his first performance.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I mean, he looked pretty pretty fun.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I had him on my bench in one league and
unfortunately I started t Higgins over him, which came up
with a big old who said that was staring back
at me from the bench. But I love it, you know,
having that depth on you know, on guys that I
could potentially bring into the game.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
It's fun.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Now does Jordan Addison score every single game moving forward?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Probably not, but his value is there.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
He has the opportunity to the Only thing that worries
me about Addison is he is weak. If anybody touches him,
he's not getting a single yard more so, he's gonna
have to be wide open when he catches it or
put on some muscle.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I would say, uh, Addison is not going to be
offensive Rookie of the Year would be my guess.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I mean, yeah, four.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
For sixty one in a touchdown, great, but that's not
that's not like JJFF Rookie years stats or something like that.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
I mean, it's it's so early, it's week one. Who
knows so much stuff can happen?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Yeah, and Jon looked good today, he did look he
looked pretty solid. Oh my gosh, Vjon is that Atlanta
Falcons offense?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah? Yeah, but he's rookie, right, he's a rookie. Actually,
you know, it's funny about Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
I know this is a Minnesota podcast, But Tyler al
Geer putting up two touchdowns today?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
What's up with that?
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Like serious? Soj' over Madison right now.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
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I was like, and some guests are on the podcast.
If you guys had to describe this Viking's loss in
one word or two words, I'll be nice. How do
you describe this loss two words?
Speaker 5 (25:17):
One or two words?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Very discouraging?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
It would have been just discouraging. But I like how
you were allowed. You were allowed the second word like
that flex option.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Yeah, that's very Yeah, I like it. Luke still early.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Wow, I love these that's right that wow wow. Man,
Tell you what if the Vikings ship went by right now,
I think your nips would be getting a little hard.
Tell you what, dude, man, big big Vikings guy. I
didn't realize you're the speak of a homer.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
No, I'm actually not. Usually I think I think the worst.
Let's say the Vikings had just played the Chiefs won
that and the Lions lost this. My thought would be,
you know what, it's Minnesota, They're still gonna lose it.
Sometimes giving up that homer on the first pitch isn't
the worst thing. You start to play a little looser,
things change. Maybe this is one of those seasons where
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it looks ugly to start and the guys can rally
around it.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
You have a good point. I mean, the Eagles are
only up sixteen to zero on the Patriots in the
first quarter, so there's a good chance the Vikings can
go into Philadelphia and when.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Yeah, hey, I like it.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
It's gonna make that victory look even sweeter. Wait to
come on next week and just be yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I want you to come on next week. Let's do it.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
You can do it.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Let' be sweet. I guess my one word for the
Vikings loss against the Buccaneers would be heartbreaking. I one word,
But I don't know if you guys heard it or not.
You kind of were in the lobby waiting for me
to let you in. But my takeaway from this game
was that the Vikings faithful, the Vikings in general. You
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won't have to worry about being heartbroken in an nc
championship game, in the divisional round or the wild card
round because they gave you a heartbreak in the first
week of the regular season.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yep. I don't think we're making it to the Yeah,
if we make it to the NFC Conference Championship.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
I'm going to be shocked. Yeah, very very shocked.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
So like very shocked, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Coming from you. Look I'm surprised.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
No.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Hey, hey, I said we make the playoffs at nine
and eight. I don't think anybody expects those teams to
advance out of the first round.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Agree, Okay, okay, that's fair, that's fair. Well, guys, thank
you for joining the Minnesota tim podcast. Last second, I
just messaged you out of the blue, anay you guys
want to join, and you guys join, so I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
No, I love the invite. Thanks, thanks for hitting us up.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
This was fun.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
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The Minnesota Vikings lose Opening Day against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
and I just have a few things to say after
their big opening day loss, and we are going to
dive into that shortly. And my first takeaway after the
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Vikings lose is, oh man, that's my first takeaway after
the Vikings loss. How can you all laugh after a
performance like that versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It's hilarious.
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I'm one of those guys that doesn't take Vikings games
too seriously. I'm invested, but they're not going to ruin
my day. I want them to win a Super Bowl,
but if they don't, life goes on. That's just how
I am with the Minnesota Vikings. But my first takeaway
after the Vikings loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is
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that we don't have to worry about the Vikings losing
a heartbreaker in the NFC Championship Game and the divisional
round or the wild card round because they ain't getting
that far. Folks. The Minnesota Vikings have no shot at
making the playoffs this year. My prediction before the season
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started was eight and nine, and unless some miracle happens
against Philadelphia on Thursday night football on the road and
just a couple of days the Vikings are going to
start the season zero and two. But I brought on
some friends that watch this game that are invested in
the Minnesota Vikings, and they even have their own podcast.
It's Luke Jeger, Jack Yeger. They're brosifs. I'm a distant
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brosif but boy, how you feeling are you doing? How
give me emotions? After the Vikings loss versus the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Pretty much the worst start to a season for either
of us. We're big fantasy football guys as well, so
right now it's looking like not only did the Vikings lose,
but I was playing against Kirk Cousin and Alexander Madison
so that pass to Alexander Madison was a double whammy
for me. And then they still lose, so pretty much
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a horrible, horrible day.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, Jack, what are your thoughts on the game?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Two takeaways? TJ.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Hockinson's gonna be losing touches to Oliver if he keeps
butting up thirty thirty yards three targets a game.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I like looking at him. He's kind of fun.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
And also I'm just glad we lost to a premier
quarterback like Baker.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I think in the first half the Vikings had like
three hundred yards versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers like sixty
five yards and it was a top ten ten game
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Well, let's dive back into the Minnesota Vikings loss against
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Luke and Jackieger, host of
the Relegations Fantasy Football podcast presented by north Face Construction.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
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Speaker 1 (05:24):
Face, called north Face, let's do it. So how much
blame do you guys put on Kirk Cousins after this
loss against the Buccaneers?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
So interesting stat came up. I don't know if anybody
saw this.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
At halftime, he was looking at two hundred and fifty
yards with three turnovers, which is the last time that
happened was in two thousand. Vinnie Testaverdi in, Yeah, two
hundred and fift yards, three turnovers, So not encouraging.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I think.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I think the biggest obstacle that Minnesota is going to
be facing this year outside of our defense, is our
O line. It looked like Kirk was getting trapped every
other play in that pocket.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Honestly, if we were to fraction out the blame, I mean,
Kirk to me, maybe gets five percent.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Like, I don't think much of it was on him.
When you look at.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Those turnovers, one of them was slapped out of his
hand by his own offensive lineman Ingram.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Right, exactly. When you look at the turnovers. How can
you blame him?
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Right, you really can't.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I mean the interception was torn out of kJ Osbourne's hands.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, when I was watching the game, Kirk has some
to blame, but he threw for like three hundred yards
in the first half. Justin Jefferson had one hundred and
thirty eight yards in the first half. What I thought
about this game, It's like the exact opposite happened last season,
where every little small thing that had to go right
last season and then some went absolutely the way it
needed to go for the Minnesota Vikings to win that game.
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They flashed it in the screen during the game. Ten
comfort behind victories last season and we finished with a
thirteen to four record. You look at this game and
it was it was a prime spot to have another
come from behind victory. We're down twenty to seventeen. The
Vikings offense has the ball with like four minutes five
minutes left in the game, and they go three and out. Yeah,
Kirk Cousins missus kJ Osborne by a foot or so
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when he was wide open for a first down, misses
them pump the ball away. The Vikings offense never gets
the ball back. It's as simple as that it was rough.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I honestly don't even know where I put most of
the blame. If offensive line is a struggle, but injuries,
I mean, losing Bradbury is losing Darisaw for a stretch.
That's tough when you already have a week offensive line.
I thought the defense played in the first half, especially,
played really well, honestly, better better than I would have expected.
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I think they just got a bit worn down by
the second half. I like this defense a lot better
than last year's. Give them fifteen yards every play and
hope to not break. I think they'll be more fun
to watch this year. But hopefully next game we get
a few more of the breaks to fall our way.
And the Eagles, Hey, hey, why not? I mean, we
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weren't expecting to lose to the Bucks. Nobody's expecting us
to win against the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Maybe, are you going to give us? Are you going
to give the Vikings a chance against the Eagles? Come on,
stand on it, stand by.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Don't spread what.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
If there I give them, I bet they beat us.
They're within a touchdown, I bet so. I bet they
beat like a five point spread.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I think we lose.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
We do love playing to our competition somebody who I
would blame pretty hard today Alexander Madison did not look good.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
He did not look good at all.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Anybody saying that Alexander Madison is going to be playing
to the caliber of what Dalvin Cook is going to
be playing to this year is sadly mistaken in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Like his touchdown, I hated his touch yeah, ending my
ending my day.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Any run, it felt like he was carrying it for
like less than two yards every time he trusted the football.
Other than that touchdown, it just didn't seem like you could.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Never find a hole.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
And I don't know if that's the old lines fault,
but it wasn't. Wasn't super impressed with matter today.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, yeah, he does seem to lack an explosiveness, and
maybe ty Chandler the back of it seems like he
has a little more explosiveness than Madison. But Delvin Cook,
he had some explosive plays last year, but he wasn't
necessarily an explosive running back for a majority of the games.
And I think that's why the Vikings got rid of him.
Plus he's getting older, Plus his contract was massive. When
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I saw this game, I saw a lot of rust
from the Vikings offense offensive line. There was some false
star penalties by Christian Darisa. We saw some other false
star penalties. We saw ed Ingram knock the ball out
of Kirk Cousin's hands. Luke, you mentioned that one, and
we saw other plays even like lining up for a
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field goal by the Buccaneers, or that Jay Ward guys
off side and then they get on mac first down. Well,
a play that was going to be a field goal
for the Buccaneers, make it thirteen to ten. Then at
seventeen to ten, Vikings side the game seventeen seventeen. Well,
if in a perfect world for the Minnesota Vikings, that
game would have been seventeen thirteen after the Vikings touched
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out because the Buccaneers kicked the field goal before. It
just seemed like there was a lot of missed opportunities,
a lot of misplays, and when you look at it,
it's like the game of football is not that complicated.
Kevin O'Connell I can guarantee what he's going to say
when it comes to the podium. He's going to say,
we had too many turnovers. We had three turnovers, We
had too many misfortunate plays and that's why we lost.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, yep, I agree. It did look it was sloppy.
And on that field goal when they showed the replay,
it wasn't just Ward. It looked like three guys on
that line were offsides. He was just in line with
all of them, and it looked like if it wasn't him,
it was three other guys.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Those are special teams. Errors are killer. Those Yeah, need
to always come back to bite you.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
What percentage chance do you give the Vikings to now
make the playoffs? They still have the Eagles, they have
the Bengals who got cream today twenty four to three
by the Browns, and then they got the forty nine
ers who just went into Pittsburgh and crushed them. Those
three teams left on the schedule, you would anticipate those
would be all three be losses. Maybe I will see
all the season goes. But I mean, I guess Luke,
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I mean I guess Luke likes our chances against the
Eagles on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
No, no, I like our chances against the spread. I'm
guessing the spread. Yes, No, I don't think we win.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
You only changed your dialogue really quickly. There you went.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
I asked you, what's the spread? I said, I think
we lose by a field goal?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
No, no, no, no. I wish I wish I could.
I wish I could. I wish I could rewind this
because then you said, who would have thought that the
Buccaneers would have came to Minnesota and beat beat us
with Baker Mayfield?
Speaker 5 (11:39):
That is true. I did say that. Yeah, I did
say that.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I so you insinuated that the Bakers were going to win,
But then you kind of try to cover up by
talking about the spread. Balls where your mouth is and
stand for an opinion.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
All right, fine, I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Bikes win, Bikes win on Thursday, taking me a score,
Vikes win. Let's go twenty seven twenty four?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Wow, yep?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Wow? Do you pear pressured a lot in high school?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
If you're pressure high school, I don't know. You tell
me yeah I did?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, Okay, wow, it didn't take a whole lot. So okay,
back to the Bain question. What percentage chance to give
the Vikings to get to the playoffs?
Speaker 5 (12:25):
You go for a check?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Oh man, that's so tough.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
The problem is, like you talked about, you know, you
got the Eagles, Cincinnati and then, and then you got
who's the third that we're probably gonna lose San Francisco.
I think I think it's a guarantee that we lose
to San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
They look tough.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I think brock Purty came out stronger than anybody expected today.
I do think that we lose to the Eagles, probably
on a bigger spread than what Luke's given. And I
unfortunately think that Cincinnati is going to turn around by
next week.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
And what do we play Cincinnati Week seven?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It's later I thought it was later in the season.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Ten something like that, because yeah, three seven to ten
for those three teams something like that. I think Bengals
have it figured out by then, and I think they throttle.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Us if we don't figure something out.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
So unfortunately, I think we lose all three of those
And if that's the case, you already owed four out
of those four games, then we have to win, you know,
a pretty good margin of the other games. If we
can't beat the Bucks, you know, are we beating teams
like Washington or are we going to beat Detroit?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
You know, right right, all those games becomes question marks
because this and theory was the easiest game to win
on the schedule right at home against Baker Mayfield, who
was in a quarterback battle all of training camp with
a guy named Kyle Trask.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
That is true, That is true.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
He's good.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I would say, I would say this is about the Bucks.
It's second year under under Todd Bowles. They might be
more underrated than previously. Like I don't think Brady was
good last year. So is is Baker currently worse than
what Brady was last year?
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah, don't.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
I don't think he is really really I would.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I mean, mister one seven, three hundred and seventy three yards,
that's like he had a pretty decent game. I think
he kind of floats around that number for the rest
of the season. Brady would have showings where he's putting up,
you know, crazy yardage.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I think Baker is worse than Tom Brady, but I
do think that the Bucks as a whole are probably
around the same level, but maybe a little bit worse,
which is discouraging for the Vikes.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Maybe it was definitely a bad loss, don't get me wrong,
but I it's early in the season.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
It's a long season. All those teams that we have
to play.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Detroit has to play to everybody in our division has
to play. If we can get one win that we're
not expected to get now and Detroit has a loss
they're not expected to have, we're back in We're back
in the same position. I think we have a weak division,
so I would say our chances, I mean, this hurts it.
I would have said we were probably fifty to fifty
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with Detroit before. We're probably now more like forty six.
But I still give us a forty percent chance to
win this division. It's one game in a long season.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, this guy, this guy's just bleaning purple over here.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Before the season, when do you think of this takeaway?
I got Green Bay Packers with a better record over
the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Interesting, It's definitely interesting.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I think it's I think it's a hot take. I do,
but I.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Sir or not. Are you sipping the yeager or not
sipping the yeager?
Speaker 5 (15:30):
I'm not sipping that, Jaeger. I'm I'm no.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Bikes are gonna I think bikes are better than Green
Bay and Chicago.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
I think it. I think it's gonna come down to
us in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
And.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I mean, it's the division is a weird division. I
think we're all we're a fairly weak division. Everybody's gonna
be somewhere between six wins and ten wins, and it's
gonna who knows who's gonna land where. But right now
I would I'm projecting we win the division, probably with
only nine wins.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah, wow, I think I do think Detroit.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Uh, that's all hold? Sorry, sorry, Luke. I think that's
a hotter take than the Green Bay Packers take of
having a better record than the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
The winning with nine or the Vikings winning the division
winning with nine.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
What was the worst division record to get in last year.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
I'm sure it wasn't there. I would have met.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I think Bucks got in with eight wins or seven
wins or something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Were they under five hundred, Yeah they were, so they
would have been eight and nine.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
I'm guessing they weren't seven to ten.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I can't remember, But I do think there will be
divisions that get in with nine wins. I don't I
think if we don't win the division, I don't think.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
We make the wild cards.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
So Bucks got in last year with an eight and
nine record.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Eight and nine records, so I think I think nine
and eight there will be a division that does that,
and I think we might be that.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I'm not buying into the Detroit Lions as much as
some people might be after beating Kansas City. The reason
being is that, yeah, it was an amazing win for them.
It's definitely gonna help the record overall, but putting up
twenty two points and everybody's saying that Detroit is about
to be a super explosive offense before the season starts.
You did beat Kansas City, but also not a great defense,
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especially without Chris Jones. Jones there right, and then Kelsey's
not Patrick Mahomes is probably missing out on what two touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
They had a wide receiver that gave the Lions like
fourteen points.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Yeah, true, Yeah, I do like a Monra but outside
and Jami or Gibbs will start getting more touches, I think.
But I don't think Detroit is as good as people
are projecting them to be. So I do think that
we have a chance against Detroit. I do think we're
going to be better than the Bears. And I don't
buy Jordan Love or any of the Packer hype, even
if they do have a good defense either. So I
don't think it's that hot. I'm still I'm still here
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for a nine and eight record to make play.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Oh oh wow, I got the Vikings at a and
nine before the season. I love your guys as hot takes.
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I love it. Kirk Cousins is this is last year
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for the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I think the safest bet ist bet he'll be playing
somewhere else next year. But my gut tells me, My
gut tells me he'll be back. I think, depending on
what's out there. I don't think we're gonna have a
good enough pick to have a rookie that we want
starting with Justin Jefferson in his prime, and if Cousins
has a bad year, we get him on a discount.
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And maybe if he has a good year, he says,
you know what, I have a few years left.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I see my chance here. I like living in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
He seems like a guy who likes to be settled
and he might take a hometown discount.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I feel like a lot of it depends on your
prediction for the Minnesota Vikings record this season. Like if
you have the Vikings at nine and eight and winning
the division, well, the likelihood that Cousins is back is
probably higher than if the Vikings went four and fourteen
or four and thirteen and and you know, stunk up
the joint.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Oh, then he's definitely gone, because then then we're getting
Caleb william Yes, that's.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
What I was just going to say. Games of the season.
I think we tank and go for Caleb Williams.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Really, I don't know, Jack visit Relegation podcast, put your
balls where your mouth is, stay by a tape.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I think after after the Philadelphia game, if we really
get smoked, I think it's going to give us a
good perspective on what the other games are going to entail.
I don't think at any point we're going to tank.
I still think we're probably finishing third art Division, which
means that you know, we're not We're not getting Caleb Williams,
And that's considering we are losing more than I expect
us to.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
But yeah, yeah, well you're looking at the you think
he stays.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Get back to me on that one. Yeah, no, no, no,
I'll come with the take. I think he stays one
more season. I don't think we want to throw a
rookie quarterback in there. I think the Vikings are gonna
go the old route where you have Kirk Cousins start
in front of a rookie quarterback one year, and then
the rookie quarterback is push into the starting lineup the
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following year. The good thing about the quarterback that's coming
in for the Vikings is all the weapons that are
around him. So maybe Kevin O'Connor would just thrust him
into the starting lineup right away because he got Jefferson,
you got Hawkinson, you got Addison, you got weapons around
a rookie quarterback to come into the Minnesota Vikings and succeed.
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But it also requires you to select a quarterback with
a first round pick instead of waiting till the third
or fourth or fifth round unless there's someone you really
really like. But if it's somebody really liking the third
or fourth or fifth round, is they are they really
starter quality? Their first year coming into the NFL. I
mean Brock pretty, I mean Brock pretty, but I feel
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like he's more of an outlier than Wilson. Well, okay, well,
now you guys are just making a case against which
makes me look not good when fine, why and fine fine,
I've been holding onto material for a while. Jack. The
Bengals don't play the Bikings still week fifteen. It's not
Week seven, it's not week ten. Okay, and Luke, you're
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laughing at Jack. The Packers don't play the forty nine
ers this year. I think they played the Bengals. They
don't play two of those three hard teams the Vikings
are playing this year. So let me get that off
my chest.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
You got me as well.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, well, you guys came back after me. So I
just can't. I just can't get out of this anymore.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Hey, if we're going to dish it, we got to
be able to take it.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Oh, I love it, Bring it, bring it.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Gonna say back to the Kirk Cousins things. One of
the hosts on our podcast, Andy Andy Peterson, he thinks
Cousins is gone and he thinks Kyler Murray is the
Vikings starting quarterback. Cardinals lose, they get Caleb Williams, let
Kyler walk, or trade him and the Vikes.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
The Vikes get him.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
The Cardinals played tough against the Commanders today. I don't
see that happening. I don't see the Vikings trading for
Kyler Murray. I think that's more of a why wouldn't
you just keep Kirk Cousins if you're gonna trade for
Kyler Murray. Yeah, I don't know ky Kyler his reputation
isn't very good around the league where he wants to
play more cod than actually watch game tape. He had
some injury history. He scrambles around quite a bit, could
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get hurt on one play, and it could flip your
entire season. That couldn't happen to every quarterback, but specifically
a scrambling quarterback like Kyler Murray. It seems like that
would happen more too.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
No, I don't hope that happens. I think that would
be a bad trade for the Vikes. We'd have to
give up draft capital and much rather have Cousins.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
I'm not a fan of Kyler, not at all.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, but he is he is younger, he's athletic. I
don't know what what Connell is looking for in his
perfect QB or do.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
But so are you guys gonna go with Jordan Addison's
offensive Rookie of the Year After his first performance.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I mean, he looked pretty pretty fun.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I had him on my bench in one league and
unfortunately I started t Higgins over him, which came up
with a big old who said that was staring back
at me from the bench. But I love it, you know,
having that depth on you know, on guys that I
could potentially bring into the game.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
It's fun.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Now does Jordan Addison score every single game moving forward?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Probably not, but his value is there.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
He has the opportunity to the Only thing that worries
me about Addison is he is weak. If anybody touches him,
he's not getting a single yard more so, he's gonna
have to be wide open when he catches it or
put on some muscle.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I would say, uh, Addison is not going to be
offensive Rookie of the Year would be my guess.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I mean, yeah, four.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
For sixty one in a touchdown, great, but that's not
that's not like JJFF Rookie years stats or something like that.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
I mean, it's it's so early, it's week one. Who
knows so much stuff can happen?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Yeah, and Jon looked good today, he did look he
looked pretty solid. Oh my gosh, Vjon is that Atlanta
Falcons offense?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah? Yeah, but he's rookie, right, he's a rookie. Actually,
you know, it's funny about Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
I know this is a Minnesota podcast, But Tyler al
Geer putting up two touchdowns today?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
What's up with that?
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Like serious? Soj' over Madison right now.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
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(25:03):
I was like, and some guests are on the podcast.
If you guys had to describe this Viking's loss in
one word or two words, I'll be nice. How do
you describe this loss two words?
Speaker 5 (25:17):
One or two words?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Very discouraging?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
It would have been just discouraging. But I like how
you were allowed. You were allowed the second word like
that flex option.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Yeah, that's very Yeah, I like it. Luke still early.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Wow, I love these that's right that wow wow. Man,
Tell you what if the Vikings ship went by right now,
I think your nips would be getting a little hard.
Tell you what, dude, man, big big Vikings guy. I
didn't realize you're the speak of a homer.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
No, I'm actually not. Usually I think I think the worst.
Let's say the Vikings had just played the Chiefs won
that and the Lions lost this. My thought would be,
you know what, it's Minnesota, They're still gonna lose it.
Sometimes giving up that homer on the first pitch isn't
the worst thing. You start to play a little looser,
things change. Maybe this is one of those seasons where
(26:19):
it looks ugly to start and the guys can rally
around it.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
You have a good point. I mean, the Eagles are
only up sixteen to zero on the Patriots in the
first quarter, so there's a good chance the Vikings can
go into Philadelphia and when.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Yeah, hey, I like it.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
It's gonna make that victory look even sweeter. Wait to
come on next week and just be yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I want you to come on next week. Let's do it.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
You can do it.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Let' be sweet. I guess my one word for the
Vikings loss against the Buccaneers would be heartbreaking. I one word,
But I don't know if you guys heard it or not.
You kind of were in the lobby waiting for me
to let you in. But my takeaway from this game
was that the Vikings faithful, the Vikings in general. You
(27:05):
won't have to worry about being heartbroken in an nc
championship game, in the divisional round or the wild card
round because they gave you a heartbreak in the first
week of the regular season.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yep. I don't think we're making it to the Yeah,
if we make it to the NFC Conference Championship.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
I'm going to be shocked. Yeah, very very shocked.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
So like very shocked, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Coming from you. Look I'm surprised.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
No.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Hey, hey, I said we make the playoffs at nine
and eight. I don't think anybody expects those teams to
advance out of the first round.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Agree, Okay, okay, that's fair, that's fair. Well, guys, thank
you for joining the Minnesota tim podcast. Last second, I
just messaged you out of the blue, anay you guys
want to join, and you guys join, so I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
No, I love the invite. Thanks, thanks for hitting us up.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
This was fun.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Well, well, everyone listened to the Relegation Fantasy Football podcast
by Luke and Jack Jaeger. They are the Jaegermeisters and
they have a great podcast out, so go watch that
on YouTube or listen on Apple, Spotify or wherever you
listen to podcasts. It's a great pod, great chemistry, great
great vibe, and fantasy football super popular, so go check
out this unique one. Thank you for listening to the
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Minnesota Tim podcast. I appreciate you making this podcast part
of your day. Rate review, subscribe, tell you friends, and
enjoy the heartbreaking Minnesota Viking scene.
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