July 29, 2026 • 39 mins
As camps have broken, the news is awoken as Jake and John are back with another jam packed episode! While all the teams start to get out on the dance floor, could there already be trouble in Packer land with not one but two premium fantasy assets? Is there a new leader in the clubhouse down in Jacksonville at tailback? Answers to those questions plus we take a spin on the Niner wide receiver carousel, have QB discussions in Las Vegas and Minnesota and more! Cause maybe...
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly
source for the nation's best fantasy speculation and advice. What's
off everyone, and welcome back another wolf season edition of
Fantasy Football Weekly with your host and Faithbold and Narraider
Gone mcgaza. And then howur good friends and my favorite
andes in the game? Mister Jerke Trubridge, how are your friendly?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm your favorites.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
This is the first time that you've said that, and
I'm gonna choose to believe it's not just because you
have to stare me in the face right now and
so you'd feel bad saying another name, John, But I
am feeling fantastic right now. It's training camp season, also
known as best Shape of My Life season, also known
as one handed catch with no defenders in sight for
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a social media highlights season, whatever you want to call it,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I got a good segue there, right because it's it's
tua is overperforming against New Defense season, but it's also
two got banged Up season, which brings us to today's episode.
You were nice enough to throw up some topics which
I was really into until what's that famous saying things
happened very slowly and then all at once, and that's
kind of what happened with the injury news. No, I'm
(01:15):
not kidding. You are my favorite analysts. Why because you're
my prospect guy. We mentioned it probably had a month
ago in passing that you know, strippling for the forty
nine ers could be an interesting pick because of how
late he's going and could be a really good best
ball pick, especially down the stretch. And right now, if
you haven't followed the news, we'll get into the forty
nineers in a minute. Looks like he's about to be
on the rise. Looks like the big CLV pick is
(01:36):
going to be coming out of San Francisco. But let's
cover a player we didn't get to last week. And
I actually worked in our advantage because more news came out.
It's Malik Neighbors, the wide receiver thirteen EIGHTYP thirty eight
with that knee. He was not listed on the pop
list to start training camp. And I actually saw a
(01:57):
video of him today. We have proof of life with Neighbors.
I mean, he looked pretty good. I guess it's I
still didn't feel like I saw, you know, best wide
receiver in the world, conditioning going on. But it's so early.
What do you make of the early news on neighbors?
How are you treating it? I wasn't drafting him up
to this point. Now maybe I will. He was going
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around in the fourth, I would imagine he's gonna be
going in the third.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
This is still not really moving the needle for me
on the leak neighbors. I need to see a little
bit more. It's good I think that he did not
start on PUPP. Obviously you would prefer to have a
guy out there on the field in training camp rather
than have him shelved. There's a number of guys who
are on PUP right now, so that is good news,
I guess because I was low, but perhaps.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Not as low as consensus on neighbors.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I know there's that softball game footage that we saw
maybe a month or two ago where it looked like
he was hobbling the bases, and I know that was
a big cause for concern. If he's out there and
he's cutting and all of that, great, I still think
it's a little weird the way that they've been handling
how much they've talked about or not talked about his injury.
So I just need to see more right now before
(03:07):
I overreact either way. I think last time that we talked,
you know, it's like, well, if he's in the third round,
it still kind of makes me clench up a little bit,
you know. Ho if you somehow get him in the fourth, Okay,
I think that's still where I'm at.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, you nailed it for me, And that's why I
feel okay being patient because he never fell far enough
for me in the first place. Had he, you know,
been in the eighth. And now we're talking about a
three or a four round jump. Maybe that's something I
want to get on early. Right now, it's a fourth
that could go to a third, But I still have
question marks about I'm not really sold, you know, I forgot.
(03:41):
I want to circle back really quick. You were nice
enough to provide some of the rules around the pup stuff.
I had to admit to you I didn't really know
all the nuances. So there's active pup right. Players placed
in the pup list before training camp counted as part
of the roster not allowed to practice until physically cleared
and removed. A player on active pup can be removed
from the list any point in training camp. So I
(04:04):
was I didn't know that right, So it's not deam
over if a player is on the pup and its conversely,
I heard someone say, a guy, I'm not trying to
imply that Neighbors will, but he still could miss games
to start the season. They might determine he's only gonna
miss two, so he wouldn't be on the pup going forward,
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but maybe he still might be and miss those four games.
So still part of me being a little reticent. Is
that kind of your take on these pupp lists that
people are probably gonna be overreacting and maybe we shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, I think the offseason pupp list causes.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
So much confusion because it is so different than the
regular season pupp list, where you know that they're gonna
miss a few games. It's so fluid, and the fact
that they can decide if he just doesn't look good
to your point, if Neighbors just does not look good enough,
something looks off, there's nothing stopping them from saying, hey,
let's go ahead and keep you over here for now
(05:00):
and keep you off the field. So yeah, don't don't
get too excited about it. But I would still say
that it's generally a positive at this point, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I mean that that feels really fair. I think the
crux of it is the situation the Giants are in.
It's still kind of a rebuild things as not a
win now team. Even though anytime you think you have
your answer quarterback and a superstar at least one on
the offensive side of the ball, you're hoping to make
some noise. But I don't think they're gonna be looking
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to get him reinjured because a re injury could very
well spell the end of the season. Whereas if the
trainers and doctors telling you, well, if we wait until
week five, you're gonna get close enough to one hundred
percent that we feel very confident about the lowering the
risk of that reinjury. So to me, this is not
out of the woods quite yet, right, Because then there is,
(05:50):
like you mentioned, the reserve pup and if a player
on active pupp during trade h camp is not removed
from the list, he could be placed on this list.
When teams cut their roster down to fifty three, a
player on this list must miss at least four games,
and they change some of the practice rules. But I
think that was really helpful and important to layout for
people because again, I didn't really know. We use the
word pup and it's like, are we that bad a
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taxonomy that we couldn't think of another name? So people
right now were already victory lapping the leak neighbors. Ahaha,
you didn't take him in the front of the fourth.
You're gonna have to get him at the back of
the third now, So like, I'm not really getting that
to me, that feels a little bit overblown. Next one
is running back from Green Bay Josh Jacobs. He has
no timeline for resolution, and the Athletic just reported that
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the investigation is quote unquote still open. You and I
have been very careful. I mean, we're not the type
to be kind of plovious, right, and we want to
be careful tour words and not be wrong or misframe things.
But I think the uncertainty in itself is a cause
for concern. Right we want him on the field, We're
gonna want him practicing, and sooner or later, I think
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right now, if you're dressing Jacobs, that's okay to me.
He was not explosive for me enough in the but
I get the volume. Bass play where are you on? Jacobs?
So you're kind of buying the dip that I think
is gonna come. I think the longer he takes to settle,
the farther he's gonna fall. I've been drafting entirely too
much Marshall on Lloyd in case you know someone here
is not worried about sleeping under the overpants.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I've been off of Josh Jacobs really since that news,
even before that news because of what you said. I
wasn't that impressed towards the end of the season with
Josh Shacobs. I thought he started off very well. I
thought you could see his career touch total, which is
very very high, especially for his age, really catch up
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with him halfway through the season, and I was just
worried about whether he could hold up to this massive
workload that we're used to the Packers lead rusher getting
and Marshaw Lloyd coming back, even though we haven't really
seen him, Packers have been very high on him. I
think I'm just not gonna have Josh Jacobs on my rosters.
That's that's just how it's gonna be for me. But
(08:00):
for anybody who is interested in Josh Jacobs, I do
think you should.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Maybe see a little bit of.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
A silver lining in the fact that they haven't gone
out and traded for anybody else. Backers have not picked
up one of these off season or excuse me, one
of these veterans like a Nase Harris or somebody who's
still available. So the fact that they haven't made moves
in the backfield says that either they're just waiting or
they're comfortable with who they have behind Josh Jacobs. So
(08:30):
for you, John, that might mean Will's up for Marshaon.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Lloyd Man, I couldn't be more excited. I'm frankly am
just very surprised how people are reacting to this swath
of running back health that we've had. Is if suddenly
playing NFL running back is not a dangerous job. And
what I mean is Lloyd feels like the clear RB two.
(08:54):
He's got some pop. And I don't want to make
too much of this, but all of it have had
to rethink injury timelines and injury arcs because of advancements
in medical technology. Right, there was a time and ACL
court through a full year. Now these guys are back
on a field in nine months or so, so you
(09:14):
know that's an objective thing. And I mentioned about Marshall
and Lloyd a player who was never able to get healthy. Really,
I advise everyone to go look into this story. I'm
maybe going to try and do a piece on it.
It was really interesting. They went to like a sports
scientist and did like body scans and now we do
all this like compensatory injury weighing. So they found that
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his because of the injuries he had, his balance was
completely off and those create further problems. They like, you know,
rebalanced the tires, for lack of a better explanation, and
that's why they're so very excited about Lloyd. This isn't like, oh,
he just is not hurt right now, right there's a
difference between he's not hurt and he's healthy. This is
also very similar to Christian mccaff he went overseas and
(10:02):
took on a new treatment. They were really excited to
get about all this balance treatment that's been going on,
and he put up a tremendous season as far as
work logo. So, I don't know. I don't think ADP
thirty three is enough for Jacobs. Would you agree that
price on Lloyd, like I picked, two hundred, is a
little too cheap at least Are you interested in him?
Are you worried?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I tried to keep my bias out of it because
I am a Packers fan, But yes, I'm very interested
in Marshaw Lloyd. And I don't think it's just my
you know, green and gold colored glasses doing that. I
think it's anytime you can get somebody that late that
has so much upside, because when he even came into
the league, there was just all this talks about how
versatile he is and how much he could possibly handle.
(10:43):
I don't think that has gone anywhere. So if he
doesn't look good because he's injured, whatever, you know, it's
a super late pick and best ball.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's tough because you don't get to make, you know, roster.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Changes, but in redraft especially, like don't get this guy
and if he doesn't look good the first couple of
weeks whatever, move on.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah. And on top of that, if you're doing early
red drafts like some people are doing it right now,
and you know they have a week zero waiver where
tons of moves get made, they kind of clean it off,
which I get to me, Lloyd would be a super
priority just for the non zero chance that the Jacob
thing go south. I'm not. I don't hope it happens.
I don't want it to happen. I don't even think
(11:22):
it's gonna happen. But it is a non zero. And
in the case where let's say Jacob something happened it
was unavailable, Lloyd might jump like over one hundred picks overnight.
Those are the spots that we really want to be in.
Let's stay in Green Bay, your guys and our guy
Tuck a Craft. Now, I was a little bit surprised,
and this is what I came crying to you at
(11:43):
the pup definition. He is on that active pup list,
but from what I understand, there's still a decent chance
that he plays Week one. I'm trying to hold on
to that or back him up in bastball because I
think when we get Craft he's gonna be great. Where
are you on He's gonna dip because once sits start
putting that pup next to guys with the O for
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out drafts can't help themselves but to knock them down.
Where are youre on Craft? How are you treating it?
What do you think about? I think I'm going with
buying the.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Dip right now as a Packer fan.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I'm bummed because I'm going to be going to training
camp this Friday, in fact, to watch the Packers open practice.
And I was, sir sure that I was gonna see
Tucker Craft out there. It doesn't look like that's the
case anymore. Unfortunately. Maybe I'll just watch him walk.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Around, you know, strut.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Maybe maybe he'll do like some stuff with the crowd
around the track there.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Maybe he won't be catching balls, but he'll be chatting
with us. Maybe it'll be better. But I do think
you're right. As soon as you see the you go
next to somebody's name, it's just like, ah damn, here
we go. But this is expected. This, This wasn't a
big shock to me. He's always been saying, along with
George Kittle, I should mention that they're both gonna be
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out there one. It's just the kind of guys that
they are. It's the kind of players that they are.
And I don't think that they're lying, but I think
that it's the team just being like, you're arguably the
focal point of this offense. Let's not risk anything right now.
So I still could very well see him playing Week one,
even if he doesn't. If they do keep him out
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a couple of weeks, his ceiling is so high that
I would much rather draft him, especially if he is
falling back, then go with one of these kind of
standard tight ends that just kind of plops eight points
in your lineup.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah. Again, nothing really changes for me here. So I'm
trying to just stay steadfast, and I'm going to be
inviting the discount. I'm not expecting a crazy discount. I
thought he was too cheap at pick eighty for me.
I thought this was already baked in. I think that's
where I'm going. I thought we knew that. Again, if
those mile per hour numbers on the treadmill and on
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the field are correct, and he is over twenty two
to twenty three, that's like the literal definition of full health.
It can't reach it. Very few people can reach at all.
If you've reached that, you're probably good to go. So
I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna stay fast. And you actually
said a couple of weeks, And I think that was
almost like always the worst case scenario that he could
sit two weeks. I don't think he's gonna be on
the reserve pop where he missed four weeks and again
(14:14):
I'm gonna be buying this down. Just of course, you
know what you're getting into. Back them up, you know,
get a last round Dull sitch or even if it's
you know, Terrence Ferguson has become a really popular pick.
There's guys back there that I think you can support
that Craft pick because he is even worth Let's say
we knew he was missing two weeks. To me, he'd
be worth holding on to. All right, this takes us.
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Next one takes us into Jacksonville. Now this is another one.
It was it was kind of vague, and it depends
how you viewed the vagueness of the news. Was your reaction.
So Chris Rodriguez has been cleared. He's doing individual work.
They're gonna ram him up. They said he looks good
and he's like on the field and like playing. So
they had said to us, Jake, we think Rodriguez will
be back for week one. Now it looks like he'll
(14:55):
definitely be back for week one. How are you treating
the Jaguars backfield to right now? Is abound pick fifty
four Rodriguez around pick John.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I'm just glad that this did not turn into another
Joe Mixon mystery foot, a.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Thing that never gets cleared up.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Like the fact that we got such a quick turnaround
and it seems like things are at least trending the
right way. That's a big sign. Chris Rodriguez as an
individual fantasy asset, I've not been that keen on personally.
I get the appeal. I get that there should be
a lot of short yardage work potentially for him. Maybe
he's the one who's closer to the goal line getting
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some of those touchdowns. I just still see Basel Touton
as being the leader of the backfield seeing the vast
majority of the touches. I think he is a more
exciting player. Liam Cohen still seems to be, you know,
singing his praises as well. I think they want this
one to punch, but it's more of a discount Jamier
(15:55):
Gibbs David Montgomery situation in my view, where it's not
that David Montgomery cannot be useful or wasn't useful in Detroit.
But I think, you know, you certainly still want Basil
Tuton as the main guy.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I think that's a really good analogy because the price
reflects that and to me, let's go. You know, I
liked it with Detroit gives all the way up front,
Montgomery further back. Now Touton as you're one to me,
you know, in the fifties, he's been one of my
favorite picks if I don't have a running back or
if he's my if he's my RB two. Because I've
(16:30):
now filled my entire wide receiver in pass catching room,
I'm okay with that also. And to go to Rodriguez one,
I think he's a better runner than people maybe give
him credit for. Last year he was fantastic. I have
to contact almost three and a half yards per attempt.
He had a positive EPA parash, Touton was negative. He
had an eight percent explosive rush rate. Tooton had three
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point six, and Rodriguez faced the eight man box nearly
sixty percent of the time. Now that speaks to your
real point, and I think the more of fancy pertinent
point is Tuton's versatility and explosivity in the passing game
challenges the defense more. You don't know where they're going.
When Rodriguez is on the field, he's probably not catching
the ball. To that point, though he's very good at
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short yardage stuff, and I think he's a fantastic flex play. Again,
if you've waited maybe a little bit too long on
running backs, especially in half PPR, if you think you're
getting all the Jacksonville short yardage touchdowns, that's a pretty
good place to be. He feels like a guy that
could score two tds week one, even if it only
gives you another, you know whatever, twenty eight yards on
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the ground, you know that dog will hunt for us.
So I'm I'm in on Rodriguez at the price. I
wonder if he's even gonna move up before we take
our quick break, Jake, I'm wondering, do you think they're
gonna move like? Do you think Tutan will move down?
Do you think Rodriguez will will move up? Like? Do
you think they'll consolidate in pricing.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I don't know that we'll ever get them matched up
in sort of a back to back situation because I
think it's a long hill for Chris Rodriguez to have
to climb to get there. Yeah, it would require Basel
Tutant to really fall off the face of the earth.
Like if we get a lot of negative training camp
reports about him, he just looks bad if the coaching
(18:13):
staff starts kind of downplaying him and he really bumps
his way back.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Than sure.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
But otherwise I think there's still going to be at
least a you know, three round gap probably between these guys.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Right, so not a Viking situation where they quite literally
go next to each other, which is the biggest fantasy
ranking cop out in history. Right, that's what we do,
everyone just so pull the cart, and that's what we
do when we don't know. We just put it next
to each other and we hope nobody notices, and then
we say, well, I have him right next to each other,
you know what I mean. It's a fifty to fifty proposition.
You know, that's the best we could do. So listen,
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that's part of the game. Now, would you equite it
maybe more to the rams Kyraen Williams is going in
the thirties, he's in front of Touton, but behind Kirene
we have Korum going like in the nineties, right, so
that spread is pretty much seem so you think it'll
hang around there where we have a I prefer Corm.
(19:04):
Of course he's going thirty picks earlier, but I think
I'm willing to go another ten picks on Rodriguez, I
think one twenty i'd still be fine. Do you think
we're getting those Shacksonville touchdowns? I just kind of glazed
past it, But it really is the most important point
of pressing the Bibton on Rodriguez.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, for Rodriguez, if you don't get the touchdowns, they
just have a very hard time seeing him as being
fantasy relevant week to week. Doesn't mean that he can't
pop off randomly, but I think it's gonna be really
hard to tell when you're gonna want to slot him.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
In your lineups for re draft.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
The one thing about the touchdowns that gives me pause
is we've seen Trevor Lawrence be more useful in that
area in recent past than he was at the start
of his career in terms of getting those rushing touchdowns
himself in terms of being accurate in the red zone
with passing. So I don't know that it's a lock
for Chris Rodriguez to get, you know, double digit touchdowns,
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even if there's a lot of scoring opportunities for the Jet.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah, that's a really good point and baked into the
price outside of one twenty five, inside of price pick
one twenty. I'd be out on I'd be out on Rica's.
But I do think there'll be some love there, and
I think he has some contingency. Dog. All right, I
have to go find my role of aluminum foil. Jake,
A little tease right there. I'll be back in just
a second. Hold on, man, all right, we're back. I've
(20:22):
got my Reynolds wrap firmly, you know, formed around my
head in the shape of a cone. The tin foils
are out. Jake, it's start to talk about the substation
in San Francisco. I mean, right now, if you were
the conspiratorial type, and I am not. I am not.
I don't think it's true. I don't want it to
be true, but I can't help it. Lean into the bit.
(20:42):
It's not just George Kittle. In the last couple of days,
we'll go back and circle through everybody. It's Kittle, Christian
Kirk with the calf, Jordan James pops up with a rib,
and now Ricky Piersoll with the knee. Jake talked this
about substations and if I maybe want to move my
family away from.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
This one the whole.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
If you don't, if you're listening to this and you
don't know what the substation controversy is. It's just that
the forty nine ers have had so many injuries for
so long now. It's every year. It's not just occasionally,
it's every single year a giant crop with these guys
end up getting hurt and the the I think it
was George Kittle. I don't want to say for sure,
but I'm I think it was Kittle who initially had
(21:20):
put this out there. It's like, we're so we play
so close to this substation. There has to be something
involved in the substation that's causing us to get injured.
And it's look, I don't know, but can we get
them an exorcist or something for their training staff? At least,
I don't know what the cause of this is.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
John, Can we get a force field? Is that really
a force Field's real?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Hey, fans in the Bay Area, go burn some sage
around the stadium or something. Just get whatever bad juju
is out there that's causing all this. Uh, make it stop,
because I know forty nine Ers fans are tired of it.
I know that fantasy managers of the these players, they
are tired of it.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
But I don't know what to make John.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I don't know why I just did this to myself,
but I was looking for the crux of this, like
the beginning of this, and the very first the very
first headline, of course, is the electromagnetic substation next to
the forty nine ers practice facility has already claimed its
first victims of the new season. So it's already it's
already out there. It's happened. It's definitive, you're in here.
(22:24):
It's just to me, it's a little bit ridiculous. I
think it becomes like a self fulfilling prophecy. There's also
been what I really think it is is. I think
it's a combination of training staffs. But also because we
see this with fantasy managers, how does that team weigh injuries?
There are fantasy analysts that will look you right in
(22:45):
the eye and say, we cannot predict injuries whatsoever. I
don't count them. I project everybody for seventeen games because
we don't know. And there's something to that. And then
there's the other side me and when it comes to
baseball in particular, a lot of times I am terrified
football it's led into lower body injuries. I've been speaking
to you about that. I'm trying to really temper my
(23:06):
expectations on injury optimism. I think that's another dangerous way.
I'm trying to play the pricing here. So where are
you on predicting injuries? Because I think it's possible that
their outlook is injuries are hard to predict, so we
don't really weigh that in our player evaluation. That would
lead you to have a bunch of players that might
be prone to being injured. And there you go, so
(23:26):
putting the funky stuff aside. Jake, you know, where are
you on that? Do you think, like, are we trying
to be too cute predicting injuries? I think that's always
the one of the main questions for fantasy.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I mean, I'm not a doctor. I don't play one
on TV.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I don't even dress up like one, as you know,
for Halloween, because first of all, those long.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Coats look boxy on me. I don't look good in them.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
So I just want to preface it by saying I
don't have any relevant medical expertise in this. However, there
seem to be very obvious case of assessing an injury
and actually having it play into your evaluation. If a
player is coming off of a pretty severe injury and
we have not seen them actually perform in real meaningful action.
(24:13):
I think it's okay. I mean, this is a Melik
Neighbors thing. I like it's okay to go ahead and
caution and say, maybe they're not slotted for seventeen games
because either they don't play the first couple of games
or they reaggravate that injury at some point during the season.
So I'm not going to just automatically slate everybody for
seventeen games if there's something really obvious injury wise poking through.
(24:37):
But otherwise, yeah, I do think sometimes we get a
little too cute and we go, oh boy, this guy's
had a couple of injuries over the last couple of years,
so let's just go ahead and assume he's going to
have it again.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
That's not really how that works.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, I think that's really well put. I've been trying
to again, when we try to quantify these processes, it's
almost a fool's errand because if well, you can't quantify it.
But if you try and quantify a process, then at
least you might be able to eliminate variables and get
closer to the truth. That's at least what I kind
of tell myself. So for me, that comes down to
I try it to drag the guys that are injured right now.
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That's the best I could do. I can't predict it.
They'll get hurt tomorrow. But if you're hurt now, then
you're hurt now. So I feel like there's a good
chance of being hurt tomorrow if you're hurt today. All right,
let's go through the players really quickly. I think we
can go past Kittle because we already kind of mentioned it.
It feels like a Taco craft thing. It's not a surprise.
Let's go with the running back first. This is interesting
because the fantasy community had it pretty much had Jordan
(25:37):
James as the RB three for San Francisco because he
was already with them last year. Didn't really use him.
He was going really next to Kaylen Black, who I
thought would be the two because I kind of believe
the rumors. I didn't know enough. Jordan James pops up
with a rib fracture gonna cost him at least a
little bit of time. You don't like that, you know,
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core or like vulnerability for a running back where they
take all those hits. So, yeah, I guess talked to
us about Black. Did you know anything about him as
a prospect? And do you think he has continuency value
if something were to happen to McCaffrey with all those touches.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, Kayln Black wasn't somebody that I was going gaga
over in pre draft process. But anytime that a team
makes a substantial investment in a player, even if it's
not somebody that you had on your own individual radar,
I think it's worth paying attention to. You could say
the same thing for John Stribbling, and I'm sure we'll
get to him later. But you know, Kayln Black, they
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want somebody else in the backfield. That's very clear. They're
not satisfied with who they have now. You know, they
moved on from Brian Robinson, who I thought would be
a very capable backup for Cez. So I don't know
why they made that move, but they clearly wanted somebody
else toy have Kaylan Black slotted in.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
The Jordan James of it all does provide.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
A path of a wider path for Black to get
in there and actually see some time running back. Especially
it's more about opportunity than outright talent. So if you're
getting more opportunity early on to kind of show your stuff,
your odds of having playing time later in the season,
I think just go up quite a bit. So I
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don't know what's gonna happen with Christian McCaffrey. Again, not
a doctor, but he did have four hundred plus touches
last year. That is a massive workload, biggest he's ever seen.
So it's worth keeping an eye on whoever it is
behind him.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, we've already mentioned multiple handcuffs that go closer to
the one hundred pickmark, let alone outside the two hundred
pick mark. I think this injury probably knocks James off
my eighteen round season one board. He's still very much
in playing for twenty rounds. In fact, he probably be
the best twenty eighth round pick if you were available.
If anyone is doing those rifts, you know, the cupboards
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get pretty bare by the end. So if I knew
our right about opportunity, I didn't want to argue that point,
but I would just counter with when you're playing season long,
if it looked like he was already kind of edging
out that RB two role, maybe there was something he
likes and maybe he can get back on a you know,
a path where that would be his job in a
worst case twentieth rounders. Both of them are going to
(28:15):
get scratched as zeros anyway, So you just want to
put yourself in a good risk reward situation. Let's do
the pass captures quick when you're do them together, Kirk,
I mentioned a caff and now Piersoll with the knee.
I think piersol is a lot more concerning. It was
the same knee that's had the issues before. They mentioned
like it was lingering and it's swollen, and now they're upset.
This doesn't sound good. I mentioned stribbling at the top
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of the show, very polarizing player, and I don't pretend
to know about prospects, but I do listen very carefully
to people I trust and not say I get worried.
But man, the intennans go up when nobody professional from
the analyst to the tapewatchers to the college analysts, no
one could seem to get a consensus on stribbling. So
I'm not going to put you in the spot for it.
But it seems pretty easy now he's is it as
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easy as he's a value by right now outside pick
one point seventy while the getting is good? Right should
we get while the getting is good? Jake?
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I mean John, I was already warming up distribbling more
because this seems like a coaching staff and a team
that is frankly annoyed with how much everybody is criticizing
their draft picks and their inability to land quality or
wide receiver through the draft. It wasn't gonna surprise me
if they just decided to shove this guy down our
throats anyways, no matter what. And now we're looking at
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his only real competition for wide receiver that's healthy at
the moment, as being thirty something year old Mike Evans,
who's dealt with his own injuries in the past. Like
it could look a lot like last year in terms of,
oh boy, here's guys that we didn't expect to be
featured very much now having to be featured by necessity.
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So I don't know what the talent level really is
for him. He's not somebody that I was super high
on in that regard. But again, if the forty nine
ers are who am I to argue with point? I
will certainly consider him towards the later rounds. I'm not
gonna get crazy with it. If he starts popping up
into the seventh round or something, I'm not gonna deal
with that.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, I think that's a good point. I think right
now he is a super smash pick for Redraft. We
mentioned Kittle, there's a chance he misses a couple games
if the Kirk thing, who might have already been on
the down side, If the CAF slows him down or
he misses sometime, Strubbling could just get a shot out
of the box to produce. We've seen how wide receivers
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have produced in that system. It seems like anybody can produce.
So yeah, I'm a little bit excited about Shrubbling obviously.
How about Pierce so really quick again, I mentioned I
don't like to invite injuries. Right now, he's off my board.
We could be going for imaging, right that's next imaging
and second opinions, and before you know it, during that
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two week process, there are people buying that dip all
the way down. I don't want to try and catch
the falling knife. I'd prefer to have the price settle,
even if it cost me a little bit of closing
line value would you be I don't know, man, would
you take Piersoll in an eighteenth round of draft anywhere?
Right now? I guess that's the question because it feels
like it's pretty binary. I like either yes or no.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I think in best ball I would just have to
be out because again, I don't get the benefit of
being able to scoop somebody else off of waivers. If
the worst happens with him in redraft, it still seems
worth it to me because you can possibly slot him
into your IR spot if your league has one. And
in the games that he's played, that's what's such a
(31:33):
bummer about pierceell Is. In the games that we've actually
seen him played, he's performed really well, very admirably.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I was excited to see what he could do this year.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
So I'm still holding on to just a thin level
of hope with him that says in redraft, I'll still
mess around.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Yeah, Yeah, I think that's the right way to approach it.
And you mentioned the best ball approach, and I think
it's good to kind of interweave your different formats helped
you think about players under a different len You just
don't want to be taking zeros, and there's right now
there's a possibility, even if it's small, that it's it's
a true zero where you'd rather have, you know, again,
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the shribbling or even the kirk where it doesn't seem,
you know, like a caff strain opposed to an already
repaired me being reaggravated. Kind of scary. All right, there
were a couple of little bits of quarterback news. We
could just do them really quick before we get out
of here. We're pushing up ag'inst the time. So Clint
Kubiak announced Tuesday that I love what they leave with
these four time Pro Bowl selection. Kirk Cousins will be
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the starting quarterback. It's like you also could have wrote
aging dusty veteran that some of us are wondering has
like a forty yard completion left in the tank Kirk Cousins, because,
believe it or not, from the adjectives of the descriptors,
those are both the same player over Finanda me doze
and I think that's fine. And again it's just to
begin training camp. I don't think anyone says that he's
starting first day, especially because it's kind of like a
(32:55):
cool guy. It's not like a Aaron Rodgers staying where
you could se him being mean and aggravated and everybody
taking it out in the media. You can see Cousins.
They're already like best friends, are doing like the step brothers,
meaning together. There's a good chance that I really like
the symbiotic relationship. It looks like they're forming it. And
I'm drafting Mendoza no matter what. Let him fall into
the last rounds and almost every draftedman Jake after pick one,
(33:18):
P seventy, Mendoza is my QB three. I'm not gonna
be drafting Cousins. Do you think Cousins is viable or
do you think it even hurts any of the weaponry.
I've kind of just been treating it. It is what
it is, because if he's really bad, you'll get Mendoza earlier,
and if he's good, then the attached raiders are fine.
So I don't know. I'm really not overreacting to this.
What do you think about the shot call, the situation
(33:39):
in Vegas?
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, the QB battle does not concern me for the
pass catchers or anybody else that I'm drafting around these guys.
You and I have always disagreed about drafting Mendoza simply
because I don't like to have a guy sit on
my bench potentially, you know, for a few weeks, without
knowing that the upside is going to be really massive.
It'd be one thing if this was like Jackson Dart situation,
(34:01):
and I expect him to go out and immediately just
put up a lot of Fantasy points. I'm pretty hesitant.
I'm pretty lax on any of my exposure to Fernando Mendoza.
I love that these two are our best pals and
they're going out and buying khakis together or whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I do.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
All that I do, I do, but.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I do think, yeah, yeah, but I will say I'm
not drafting Kirk Cousins for the few games that he's
presumably gonna start.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, I'm with that. I also wouldn't draft Mendoza in redraft.
I think you kind of let that sit on the line.
If you waited too long on quarterback, that's not the
QB two that you'd want anyway, Right, That's where the
different formats come into play. I was just writing up
quarterbacks of the day at Fantasy Life, and if you again,
if you wait, there's plenty of guys available out to
(34:45):
the QB twelve. But then I think, you know you
you're getting like a shroud. Get a Bryce Young, get
him a leak Willis gets I like Willis, especially of
the running floor. But get somebody that you know is
gonna play, right, Get somebody that you know is playing
and could produce. Because if you're in a league where
your league mats do kind of snatch up the QB twos,
you don't want to be left with zeros. That's that's
kind of a nightmare, all right, This when you're getting
(35:07):
put on the spot for it's funny. I've just been
avoiding the entire thing, and it's making me a little nervous.
We're talking about Minnesota Kevin O'Connell, who, until he met
JJ McCarthy was quarterback proof on managing against qbs during camp.
Both this is the quote, both Kyler and JJ McCarthy
will take reps with the first team, which I don't like.
They'll also take rex with the second group, which I
(35:28):
don't like. We want an elevator at the QB's position. Yeah, Like,
do you not know who it is? And many in
many ways doing that in the system is is your
you knows your job mentality. Yeah, is he saying? Was
that a subtle shot at McCarthy, who is known to
be a little I don't know. I don't even want
to knock him. Just out there. He's eccentric, he's you know,
he's out there man for Murray. Do you have a
(35:51):
take there are this is a wide piece of the
fantasy industry that is drafting Kyler Murray as the definitive
quarterback for the Vikings best fall formats. When you're married
to this guy and it's not even like they're pairing
with with McCarthy. So, I mean, mccafee. Stuff is really
badly this year? Do you have anything for us? Like
I said, I'm almost out. I like Jefferson late in
(36:11):
the first because I think he's a superstar. Other than that,
I don't care if I have a single Purple Peep leader.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, I think I think.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Maybe I had mentioned this during our qb stas episode,
The fact that Kyler's ADP was so solidified as the
starter this early in the offseason was quizzical. I didn't
quite get that because as much as I like Kyler
Murray from a fantasy perspective, I wasn't so sure that
he would immediately step into that role. He has a
(36:38):
lot of question marks. I know JJ McCarthy has a
lot of question marks. This camp battle does not surprise me.
I don't think that we should have expected much different.
If it goes on too long, that's when I just
back away from it. As you are, John, and I
just say, all right, I don't think I want to
mess with any of these guys. If you can't get
your QB slot figured out early, that to me just
(37:01):
says you don't have confidence in them, So why should
I have confidence in the team around it. With that said,
whend it surprised me if they were just trying to
bump up JJ McCarthy's trade value when all of a
sudden done, now.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
That wouldn't surprise me either.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
So I hope it's Kyler because I think Kyler will
raise the floor and ceiling of pretty much everybody on
that roster for fantasy.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
If it's JJ McCarthy, yeah, it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Those stats for McCarthy were other worldly bad. Just hard
to imagine how bad. Fifty seven percent completion, almost fifteen
percent off target rate, seventy two and a half passer
rating just six point seven ypa almost five percent interception
rate just oh, just terrible. And this is something that
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my guy at the Athletic Michael Staffino, developed, He called it.
He calls it splint, right, So it's sacks plus interceptions
splint and the idea being you know, he was very
keen on how bad sacks are, right. I think we're
coming around in that as an industry. I think people
are starting to understand taking sacks is a killer. And
one of the keys to the greatness of the Josh
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Allens and the Mahomes is they do not take sacks.
Taking sacks destroys the drive. The numbers are undeniable. So
McCarthy isn't just inaccurate or turn the bull over. He
also takes sacks at an incredible rate. I mean that
number was almost fourteen percent of dropbacks for ending in
a sack an interception. That is just outrageous. I can't
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see how he wins a job. So I think it'll
be murray. I guess I'm with you that maybe they're
trying to pump up the value again. People just keep
in mind, it's a non zero chance I've murders it
gets the job. Who mind you, right, now is being
drafted almost universally in front of Jordan Love and Tyler
Schuck who and I think that's patently insane. I really do.
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I think that's insane because we've seen the O'Connell system
fail just last year. Maybe Sam Donald is better at
football than a lot of people realized, right where even
O'Connor's like, oh, we could just get a vibe with anybody.
Maybe not, we'll see, but I think that'll do it.
As you creep up to the forty minute mark, Jake,
that was so awesome, and the news really hated heavy,
but it's important to kind of parsival this stuff. So
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from Jake and from John and our wonderful producer Robbie,
appreciate you all. Thanks for listening, and have a wonderful weekend.
Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly
source for the nation's best fantasy speculation and advice. What's
off everyone, and welcome back another wolf season edition of
Fantasy Football Weekly with your host and Faithbold and Narraider
Gone mcgaza. And then howur good friends and my favorite
andes in the game? Mister Jerke Trubridge, how are your friendly?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm your favorites.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
This is the first time that you've said that, and
I'm gonna choose to believe it's not just because you
have to stare me in the face right now and
so you'd feel bad saying another name, John, But I
am feeling fantastic right now. It's training camp season, also
known as best Shape of My Life season, also known
as one handed catch with no defenders in sight for
(00:48):
a social media highlights season, whatever you want to call it,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I got a good segue there, right because it's it's
tua is overperforming against New Defense season, but it's also
two got banged Up season, which brings us to today's episode.
You were nice enough to throw up some topics which
I was really into until what's that famous saying things
happened very slowly and then all at once, and that's
kind of what happened with the injury news. No, I'm
(01:15):
not kidding. You are my favorite analysts. Why because you're
my prospect guy. We mentioned it probably had a month
ago in passing that you know, strippling for the forty
nine ers could be an interesting pick because of how
late he's going and could be a really good best
ball pick, especially down the stretch. And right now, if
you haven't followed the news, we'll get into the forty
nineers in a minute. Looks like he's about to be
on the rise. Looks like the big CLV pick is
(01:36):
going to be coming out of San Francisco. But let's
cover a player we didn't get to last week. And
I actually worked in our advantage because more news came out.
It's Malik Neighbors, the wide receiver thirteen EIGHTYP thirty eight
with that knee. He was not listed on the pop
list to start training camp. And I actually saw a
(01:57):
video of him today. We have proof of life with Neighbors.
I mean, he looked pretty good. I guess it's I
still didn't feel like I saw, you know, best wide
receiver in the world, conditioning going on. But it's so early.
What do you make of the early news on neighbors?
How are you treating it? I wasn't drafting him up
to this point. Now maybe I will. He was going
(02:17):
around in the fourth, I would imagine he's gonna be
going in the third.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
This is still not really moving the needle for me
on the leak neighbors. I need to see a little
bit more. It's good I think that he did not
start on PUPP. Obviously you would prefer to have a
guy out there on the field in training camp rather
than have him shelved. There's a number of guys who
are on PUP right now, so that is good news,
I guess because I was low, but perhaps.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Not as low as consensus on neighbors.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I know there's that softball game footage that we saw
maybe a month or two ago where it looked like
he was hobbling the bases, and I know that was
a big cause for concern. If he's out there and
he's cutting and all of that, great, I still think
it's a little weird the way that they've been handling
how much they've talked about or not talked about his injury.
So I just need to see more right now before
(03:07):
I overreact either way. I think last time that we talked,
you know, it's like, well, if he's in the third round,
it still kind of makes me clench up a little bit,
you know. Ho if you somehow get him in the fourth, Okay,
I think that's still where I'm at.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, you nailed it for me, And that's why I
feel okay being patient because he never fell far enough
for me in the first place. Had he, you know,
been in the eighth. And now we're talking about a
three or a four round jump. Maybe that's something I
want to get on early. Right now, it's a fourth
that could go to a third, But I still have
question marks about I'm not really sold, you know, I forgot.
(03:41):
I want to circle back really quick. You were nice
enough to provide some of the rules around the pup stuff.
I had to admit to you I didn't really know
all the nuances. So there's active pup right. Players placed
in the pup list before training camp counted as part
of the roster not allowed to practice until physically cleared
and removed. A player on active pup can be removed
from the list any point in training camp. So I
(04:04):
was I didn't know that right, So it's not deam
over if a player is on the pup and its conversely,
I heard someone say, a guy, I'm not trying to
imply that Neighbors will, but he still could miss games
to start the season. They might determine he's only gonna
miss two, so he wouldn't be on the pup going forward,
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but maybe he still might be and miss those four games.
So still part of me being a little reticent. Is
that kind of your take on these pupp lists that
people are probably gonna be overreacting and maybe we shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, I think the offseason pupp list causes.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
So much confusion because it is so different than the
regular season pupp list, where you know that they're gonna
miss a few games. It's so fluid, and the fact
that they can decide if he just doesn't look good
to your point, if Neighbors just does not look good enough,
something looks off, there's nothing stopping them from saying, hey,
let's go ahead and keep you over here for now
(05:00):
and keep you off the field. So yeah, don't don't
get too excited about it. But I would still say
that it's generally a positive at this point, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I mean that that feels really fair. I think the
crux of it is the situation the Giants are in.
It's still kind of a rebuild things as not a
win now team. Even though anytime you think you have
your answer quarterback and a superstar at least one on
the offensive side of the ball, you're hoping to make
some noise. But I don't think they're gonna be looking
(05:29):
to get him reinjured because a re injury could very
well spell the end of the season. Whereas if the
trainers and doctors telling you, well, if we wait until
week five, you're gonna get close enough to one hundred
percent that we feel very confident about the lowering the
risk of that reinjury. So to me, this is not
out of the woods quite yet, right, Because then there is,
(05:50):
like you mentioned, the reserve pup and if a player
on active pupp during trade h camp is not removed
from the list, he could be placed on this list.
When teams cut their roster down to fifty three, a
player on this list must miss at least four games,
and they change some of the practice rules. But I
think that was really helpful and important to layout for
people because again, I didn't really know. We use the
word pup and it's like, are we that bad a
(06:11):
taxonomy that we couldn't think of another name? So people
right now were already victory lapping the leak neighbors. Ahaha,
you didn't take him in the front of the fourth.
You're gonna have to get him at the back of
the third now, So like, I'm not really getting that
to me, that feels a little bit overblown. Next one
is running back from Green Bay Josh Jacobs. He has
no timeline for resolution, and the Athletic just reported that
(06:35):
the investigation is quote unquote still open. You and I
have been very careful. I mean, we're not the type
to be kind of plovious, right, and we want to
be careful tour words and not be wrong or misframe things.
But I think the uncertainty in itself is a cause
for concern. Right we want him on the field, We're
gonna want him practicing, and sooner or later, I think
(06:55):
right now, if you're dressing Jacobs, that's okay to me.
He was not explosive for me enough in the but
I get the volume. Bass play where are you on? Jacobs?
So you're kind of buying the dip that I think
is gonna come. I think the longer he takes to settle,
the farther he's gonna fall. I've been drafting entirely too
much Marshall on Lloyd in case you know someone here
is not worried about sleeping under the overpants.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I've been off of Josh Jacobs really since that news,
even before that news because of what you said. I
wasn't that impressed towards the end of the season with
Josh Shacobs. I thought he started off very well. I
thought you could see his career touch total, which is
very very high, especially for his age, really catch up
(07:38):
with him halfway through the season, and I was just
worried about whether he could hold up to this massive
workload that we're used to the Packers lead rusher getting
and Marshaw Lloyd coming back, even though we haven't really
seen him, Packers have been very high on him. I
think I'm just not gonna have Josh Jacobs on my rosters.
That's that's just how it's gonna be for me. But
(08:00):
for anybody who is interested in Josh Jacobs, I do
think you should.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Maybe see a little bit of.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
A silver lining in the fact that they haven't gone
out and traded for anybody else. Backers have not picked
up one of these off season or excuse me, one
of these veterans like a Nase Harris or somebody who's
still available. So the fact that they haven't made moves
in the backfield says that either they're just waiting or
they're comfortable with who they have behind Josh Jacobs. So
(08:30):
for you, John, that might mean Will's up for Marshaon.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Lloyd Man, I couldn't be more excited. I'm frankly am
just very surprised how people are reacting to this swath
of running back health that we've had. Is if suddenly
playing NFL running back is not a dangerous job. And
what I mean is Lloyd feels like the clear RB two.
(08:54):
He's got some pop. And I don't want to make
too much of this, but all of it have had
to rethink injury timelines and injury arcs because of advancements
in medical technology. Right, there was a time and ACL
court through a full year. Now these guys are back
on a field in nine months or so, so you
(09:14):
know that's an objective thing. And I mentioned about Marshall
and Lloyd a player who was never able to get healthy. Really,
I advise everyone to go look into this story. I'm
maybe going to try and do a piece on it.
It was really interesting. They went to like a sports
scientist and did like body scans and now we do
all this like compensatory injury weighing. So they found that
(09:38):
his because of the injuries he had, his balance was
completely off and those create further problems. They like, you know,
rebalanced the tires, for lack of a better explanation, and
that's why they're so very excited about Lloyd. This isn't like, oh,
he just is not hurt right now, right there's a
difference between he's not hurt and he's healthy. This is
also very similar to Christian mccaff he went overseas and
(10:02):
took on a new treatment. They were really excited to
get about all this balance treatment that's been going on,
and he put up a tremendous season as far as
work logo. So, I don't know. I don't think ADP
thirty three is enough for Jacobs. Would you agree that
price on Lloyd, like I picked, two hundred, is a
little too cheap at least Are you interested in him?
Are you worried?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I tried to keep my bias out of it because
I am a Packers fan, But yes, I'm very interested
in Marshaw Lloyd. And I don't think it's just my
you know, green and gold colored glasses doing that. I
think it's anytime you can get somebody that late that
has so much upside, because when he even came into
the league, there was just all this talks about how
versatile he is and how much he could possibly handle.
(10:43):
I don't think that has gone anywhere. So if he
doesn't look good because he's injured, whatever, you know, it's
a super late pick and best ball.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's tough because you don't get to make, you know, roster.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Changes, but in redraft especially, like don't get this guy
and if he doesn't look good the first couple of
weeks whatever, move on.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah. And on top of that, if you're doing early
red drafts like some people are doing it right now,
and you know they have a week zero waiver where
tons of moves get made, they kind of clean it off,
which I get to me, Lloyd would be a super
priority just for the non zero chance that the Jacob
thing go south. I'm not. I don't hope it happens.
I don't want it to happen. I don't even think
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it's gonna happen. But it is a non zero. And
in the case where let's say Jacob something happened it
was unavailable, Lloyd might jump like over one hundred picks overnight.
Those are the spots that we really want to be in.
Let's stay in Green Bay, your guys and our guy
Tuck a Craft. Now, I was a little bit surprised,
and this is what I came crying to you at
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the pup definition. He is on that active pup list,
but from what I understand, there's still a decent chance
that he plays Week one. I'm trying to hold on
to that or back him up in bastball because I
think when we get Craft he's gonna be great. Where
are you on He's gonna dip because once sits start
putting that pup next to guys with the O for
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out drafts can't help themselves but to knock them down.
Where are youre on Craft? How are you treating it?
What do you think about? I think I'm going with
buying the.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Dip right now as a Packer fan.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I'm bummed because I'm going to be going to training
camp this Friday, in fact, to watch the Packers open practice.
And I was, sir sure that I was gonna see
Tucker Craft out there. It doesn't look like that's the
case anymore. Unfortunately. Maybe I'll just watch him walk.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Around, you know, strut.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Maybe maybe he'll do like some stuff with the crowd
around the track there.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Maybe he won't be catching balls, but he'll be chatting
with us. Maybe it'll be better. But I do think
you're right. As soon as you see the you go
next to somebody's name, it's just like, ah damn, here
we go. But this is expected. This, This wasn't a
big shock to me. He's always been saying, along with
George Kittle, I should mention that they're both gonna be
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out there one. It's just the kind of guys that
they are. It's the kind of players that they are.
And I don't think that they're lying, but I think
that it's the team just being like, you're arguably the
focal point of this offense. Let's not risk anything right now.
So I still could very well see him playing Week one,
even if he doesn't. If they do keep him out
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a couple of weeks, his ceiling is so high that
I would much rather draft him, especially if he is
falling back, then go with one of these kind of
standard tight ends that just kind of plops eight points
in your lineup.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah. Again, nothing really changes for me here. So I'm
trying to just stay steadfast, and I'm going to be
inviting the discount. I'm not expecting a crazy discount. I
thought he was too cheap at pick eighty for me.
I thought this was already baked in. I think that's
where I'm going. I thought we knew that. Again, if
those mile per hour numbers on the treadmill and on
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the field are correct, and he is over twenty two
to twenty three, that's like the literal definition of full health.
It can't reach it. Very few people can reach at all.
If you've reached that, you're probably good to go. So
I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna stay fast. And you actually
said a couple of weeks, And I think that was
almost like always the worst case scenario that he could
sit two weeks. I don't think he's gonna be on
the reserve pop where he missed four weeks and again
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I'm gonna be buying this down. Just of course, you
know what you're getting into. Back them up, you know,
get a last round Dull sitch or even if it's
you know, Terrence Ferguson has become a really popular pick.
There's guys back there that I think you can support
that Craft pick because he is even worth Let's say
we knew he was missing two weeks. To me, he'd
be worth holding on to. All right, this takes us.
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Next one takes us into Jacksonville. Now this is another one.
It was it was kind of vague, and it depends
how you viewed the vagueness of the news. Was your reaction.
So Chris Rodriguez has been cleared. He's doing individual work.
They're gonna ram him up. They said he looks good
and he's like on the field and like playing. So
they had said to us, Jake, we think Rodriguez will
be back for week one. Now it looks like he'll
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definitely be back for week one. How are you treating
the Jaguars backfield to right now? Is abound pick fifty
four Rodriguez around pick John.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I'm just glad that this did not turn into another
Joe Mixon mystery foot, a.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Thing that never gets cleared up.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Like the fact that we got such a quick turnaround
and it seems like things are at least trending the
right way. That's a big sign. Chris Rodriguez as an
individual fantasy asset, I've not been that keen on personally.
I get the appeal. I get that there should be
a lot of short yardage work potentially for him. Maybe
he's the one who's closer to the goal line getting
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some of those touchdowns. I just still see Basel Touton
as being the leader of the backfield seeing the vast
majority of the touches. I think he is a more
exciting player. Liam Cohen still seems to be, you know,
singing his praises as well. I think they want this
one to punch, but it's more of a discount Jamier
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Gibbs David Montgomery situation in my view, where it's not
that David Montgomery cannot be useful or wasn't useful in Detroit.
But I think, you know, you certainly still want Basil
Tuton as the main guy.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I think that's a really good analogy because the price
reflects that and to me, let's go. You know, I
liked it with Detroit gives all the way up front,
Montgomery further back. Now Touton as you're one to me,
you know, in the fifties, he's been one of my
favorite picks if I don't have a running back or
if he's my if he's my RB two. Because I've
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now filled my entire wide receiver in pass catching room,
I'm okay with that also. And to go to Rodriguez one,
I think he's a better runner than people maybe give
him credit for. Last year he was fantastic. I have
to contact almost three and a half yards per attempt.
He had a positive EPA parash, Touton was negative. He
had an eight percent explosive rush rate. Tooton had three
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point six, and Rodriguez faced the eight man box nearly
sixty percent of the time. Now that speaks to your
real point, and I think the more of fancy pertinent
point is Tuton's versatility and explosivity in the passing game
challenges the defense more. You don't know where they're going.
When Rodriguez is on the field, he's probably not catching
the ball. To that point, though he's very good at
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short yardage stuff, and I think he's a fantastic flex play. Again,
if you've waited maybe a little bit too long on
running backs, especially in half PPR, if you think you're
getting all the Jacksonville short yardage touchdowns, that's a pretty
good place to be. He feels like a guy that
could score two tds week one, even if it only
gives you another, you know whatever, twenty eight yards on
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the ground, you know that dog will hunt for us.
So I'm I'm in on Rodriguez at the price. I
wonder if he's even gonna move up before we take
our quick break, Jake, I'm wondering, do you think they're
gonna move like? Do you think Tutan will move down?
Do you think Rodriguez will will move up? Like? Do
you think they'll consolidate in pricing.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I don't know that we'll ever get them matched up
in sort of a back to back situation because I
think it's a long hill for Chris Rodriguez to have
to climb to get there. Yeah, it would require Basel
Tutant to really fall off the face of the earth.
Like if we get a lot of negative training camp
reports about him, he just looks bad if the coaching
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staff starts kind of downplaying him and he really bumps
his way back.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Than sure.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
But otherwise I think there's still going to be at
least a you know, three round gap probably between these guys.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Right, so not a Viking situation where they quite literally
go next to each other, which is the biggest fantasy
ranking cop out in history. Right, that's what we do,
everyone just so pull the cart, and that's what we
do when we don't know. We just put it next
to each other and we hope nobody notices, and then
we say, well, I have him right next to each other,
you know what I mean. It's a fifty to fifty proposition.
You know, that's the best we could do. So listen,
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that's part of the game. Now, would you equite it
maybe more to the rams Kyraen Williams is going in
the thirties, he's in front of Touton, but behind Kirene
we have Korum going like in the nineties, right, so
that spread is pretty much seem so you think it'll
hang around there where we have a I prefer Corm.
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Of course he's going thirty picks earlier, but I think
I'm willing to go another ten picks on Rodriguez, I
think one twenty i'd still be fine. Do you think
we're getting those Shacksonville touchdowns? I just kind of glazed
past it, But it really is the most important point
of pressing the Bibton on Rodriguez.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, for Rodriguez, if you don't get the touchdowns, they
just have a very hard time seeing him as being
fantasy relevant week to week. Doesn't mean that he can't
pop off randomly, but I think it's gonna be really
hard to tell when you're gonna want to slot him.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
In your lineups for re draft.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
The one thing about the touchdowns that gives me pause
is we've seen Trevor Lawrence be more useful in that
area in recent past than he was at the start
of his career in terms of getting those rushing touchdowns
himself in terms of being accurate in the red zone
with passing. So I don't know that it's a lock
for Chris Rodriguez to get, you know, double digit touchdowns,
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even if there's a lot of scoring opportunities for the Jet.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah, that's a really good point and baked into the
price outside of one twenty five, inside of price pick
one twenty. I'd be out on I'd be out on Rica's.
But I do think there'll be some love there, and
I think he has some contingency. Dog. All right, I
have to go find my role of aluminum foil. Jake,
A little tease right there. I'll be back in just
a second. Hold on, man, all right, we're back. I've
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got my Reynolds wrap firmly, you know, formed around my
head in the shape of a cone. The tin foils
are out. Jake, it's start to talk about the substation
in San Francisco. I mean, right now, if you were
the conspiratorial type, and I am not. I am not.
I don't think it's true. I don't want it to
be true, but I can't help it. Lean into the bit.
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It's not just George Kittle. In the last couple of days,
we'll go back and circle through everybody. It's Kittle, Christian
Kirk with the calf, Jordan James pops up with a rib,
and now Ricky Piersoll with the knee. Jake talked this
about substations and if I maybe want to move my
family away from.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
This one the whole.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
If you don't, if you're listening to this and you
don't know what the substation controversy is. It's just that
the forty nine ers have had so many injuries for
so long now. It's every year. It's not just occasionally,
it's every single year a giant crop with these guys
end up getting hurt and the the I think it
was George Kittle. I don't want to say for sure,
but I'm I think it was Kittle who initially had
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put this out there. It's like, we're so we play
so close to this substation. There has to be something
involved in the substation that's causing us to get injured.
And it's look, I don't know, but can we get
them an exorcist or something for their training staff? At least,
I don't know what the cause of this is.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
John, Can we get a force field? Is that really
a force Field's real?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Hey, fans in the Bay Area, go burn some sage
around the stadium or something. Just get whatever bad juju
is out there that's causing all this. Uh, make it stop,
because I know forty nine Ers fans are tired of it.
I know that fantasy managers of the these players, they
are tired of it.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
But I don't know what to make John.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I don't know why I just did this to myself,
but I was looking for the crux of this, like
the beginning of this, and the very first the very
first headline, of course, is the electromagnetic substation next to
the forty nine ers practice facility has already claimed its
first victims of the new season. So it's already it's
already out there. It's happened. It's definitive, you're in here.
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It's just to me, it's a little bit ridiculous. I
think it becomes like a self fulfilling prophecy. There's also
been what I really think it is is. I think
it's a combination of training staffs. But also because we
see this with fantasy managers, how does that team weigh injuries?
There are fantasy analysts that will look you right in
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the eye and say, we cannot predict injuries whatsoever. I
don't count them. I project everybody for seventeen games because
we don't know. And there's something to that. And then
there's the other side me and when it comes to
baseball in particular, a lot of times I am terrified
football it's led into lower body injuries. I've been speaking
to you about that. I'm trying to really temper my
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expectations on injury optimism. I think that's another dangerous way.
I'm trying to play the pricing here. So where are
you on predicting injuries? Because I think it's possible that
their outlook is injuries are hard to predict, so we
don't really weigh that in our player evaluation. That would
lead you to have a bunch of players that might
be prone to being injured. And there you go, so
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putting the funky stuff aside. Jake, you know, where are
you on that? Do you think, like, are we trying
to be too cute predicting injuries? I think that's always
the one of the main questions for fantasy.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I mean, I'm not a doctor. I don't play one
on TV.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I don't even dress up like one, as you know,
for Halloween, because first of all, those long.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Coats look boxy on me. I don't look good in them.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
So I just want to preface it by saying I
don't have any relevant medical expertise in this. However, there
seem to be very obvious case of assessing an injury
and actually having it play into your evaluation. If a
player is coming off of a pretty severe injury and
we have not seen them actually perform in real meaningful action.
(24:13):
I think it's okay. I mean, this is a Melik
Neighbors thing. I like it's okay to go ahead and
caution and say, maybe they're not slotted for seventeen games
because either they don't play the first couple of games
or they reaggravate that injury at some point during the season.
So I'm not going to just automatically slate everybody for
seventeen games if there's something really obvious injury wise poking through.
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But otherwise, yeah, I do think sometimes we get a
little too cute and we go, oh boy, this guy's
had a couple of injuries over the last couple of years,
so let's just go ahead and assume he's going to
have it again.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
That's not really how that works.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, I think that's really well put. I've been trying
to again, when we try to quantify these processes, it's
almost a fool's errand because if well, you can't quantify it.
But if you try and quantify a process, then at
least you might be able to eliminate variables and get
closer to the truth. That's at least what I kind
of tell myself. So for me, that comes down to
I try it to drag the guys that are injured right now.
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That's the best I could do. I can't predict it.
They'll get hurt tomorrow. But if you're hurt now, then
you're hurt now. So I feel like there's a good
chance of being hurt tomorrow if you're hurt today. All right,
let's go through the players really quickly. I think we
can go past Kittle because we already kind of mentioned it.
It feels like a Taco craft thing. It's not a surprise.
Let's go with the running back first. This is interesting
because the fantasy community had it pretty much had Jordan
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James as the RB three for San Francisco because he
was already with them last year. Didn't really use him.
He was going really next to Kaylen Black, who I
thought would be the two because I kind of believe
the rumors. I didn't know enough. Jordan James pops up
with a rib fracture gonna cost him at least a
little bit of time. You don't like that, you know,
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core or like vulnerability for a running back where they
take all those hits. So, yeah, I guess talked to
us about Black. Did you know anything about him as
a prospect? And do you think he has continuency value
if something were to happen to McCaffrey with all those touches.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, Kayln Black wasn't somebody that I was going gaga
over in pre draft process. But anytime that a team
makes a substantial investment in a player, even if it's
not somebody that you had on your own individual radar,
I think it's worth paying attention to. You could say
the same thing for John Stribbling, and I'm sure we'll
get to him later. But you know, Kayln Black, they
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want somebody else in the backfield. That's very clear. They're
not satisfied with who they have now. You know, they
moved on from Brian Robinson, who I thought would be
a very capable backup for Cez. So I don't know
why they made that move, but they clearly wanted somebody
else toy have Kaylan Black slotted in.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
The Jordan James of it all does provide.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
A path of a wider path for Black to get
in there and actually see some time running back. Especially
it's more about opportunity than outright talent. So if you're
getting more opportunity early on to kind of show your stuff,
your odds of having playing time later in the season,
I think just go up quite a bit. So I
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don't know what's gonna happen with Christian McCaffrey. Again, not
a doctor, but he did have four hundred plus touches
last year. That is a massive workload, biggest he's ever seen.
So it's worth keeping an eye on whoever it is
behind him.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, we've already mentioned multiple handcuffs that go closer to
the one hundred pickmark, let alone outside the two hundred
pick mark. I think this injury probably knocks James off
my eighteen round season one board. He's still very much
in playing for twenty rounds. In fact, he probably be
the best twenty eighth round pick if you were available.
If anyone is doing those rifts, you know, the cupboards
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get pretty bare by the end. So if I knew
our right about opportunity, I didn't want to argue that point,
but I would just counter with when you're playing season long,
if it looked like he was already kind of edging
out that RB two role, maybe there was something he
likes and maybe he can get back on a you know,
a path where that would be his job in a
worst case twentieth rounders. Both of them are going to
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get scratched as zeros anyway, So you just want to
put yourself in a good risk reward situation. Let's do
the pass captures quick when you're do them together, Kirk,
I mentioned a caff and now Piersoll with the knee.
I think piersol is a lot more concerning. It was
the same knee that's had the issues before. They mentioned
like it was lingering and it's swollen, and now they're upset.
This doesn't sound good. I mentioned stribbling at the top
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of the show, very polarizing player, and I don't pretend
to know about prospects, but I do listen very carefully
to people I trust and not say I get worried.
But man, the intennans go up when nobody professional from
the analyst to the tapewatchers to the college analysts, no
one could seem to get a consensus on stribbling. So
I'm not going to put you in the spot for it.
But it seems pretty easy now he's is it as
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easy as he's a value by right now outside pick
one point seventy while the getting is good? Right should
we get while the getting is good? Jake?
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I mean John, I was already warming up distribbling more
because this seems like a coaching staff and a team
that is frankly annoyed with how much everybody is criticizing
their draft picks and their inability to land quality or
wide receiver through the draft. It wasn't gonna surprise me
if they just decided to shove this guy down our
throats anyways, no matter what. And now we're looking at
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his only real competition for wide receiver that's healthy at
the moment, as being thirty something year old Mike Evans,
who's dealt with his own injuries in the past. Like
it could look a lot like last year in terms of,
oh boy, here's guys that we didn't expect to be
featured very much now having to be featured by necessity.
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So I don't know what the talent level really is
for him. He's not somebody that I was super high
on in that regard. But again, if the forty nine
ers are who am I to argue with point? I
will certainly consider him towards the later rounds. I'm not
gonna get crazy with it. If he starts popping up
into the seventh round or something, I'm not gonna deal
with that.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, I think that's a good point. I think right
now he is a super smash pick for Redraft. We
mentioned Kittle, there's a chance he misses a couple games
if the Kirk thing, who might have already been on
the down side, If the CAF slows him down or
he misses sometime, Strubbling could just get a shot out
of the box to produce. We've seen how wide receivers
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have produced in that system. It seems like anybody can produce.
So yeah, I'm a little bit excited about Shrubbling obviously.
How about Pierce so really quick again, I mentioned I
don't like to invite injuries. Right now, he's off my board.
We could be going for imaging, right that's next imaging
and second opinions, and before you know it, during that
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two week process, there are people buying that dip all
the way down. I don't want to try and catch
the falling knife. I'd prefer to have the price settle,
even if it cost me a little bit of closing
line value would you be I don't know, man, would
you take Piersoll in an eighteenth round of draft anywhere?
Right now? I guess that's the question because it feels
like it's pretty binary. I like either yes or no.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I think in best ball I would just have to
be out because again, I don't get the benefit of
being able to scoop somebody else off of waivers. If
the worst happens with him in redraft, it still seems
worth it to me because you can possibly slot him
into your IR spot if your league has one. And
in the games that he's played, that's what's such a
(31:33):
bummer about pierceell Is. In the games that we've actually
seen him played, he's performed really well, very admirably.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I was excited to see what he could do this year.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
So I'm still holding on to just a thin level
of hope with him that says in redraft, I'll still
mess around.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Yeah, Yeah, I think that's the right way to approach it.
And you mentioned the best ball approach, and I think
it's good to kind of interweave your different formats helped
you think about players under a different len You just
don't want to be taking zeros, and there's right now
there's a possibility, even if it's small, that it's it's
a true zero where you'd rather have, you know, again,
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the shribbling or even the kirk where it doesn't seem,
you know, like a caff strain opposed to an already
repaired me being reaggravated. Kind of scary. All right, there
were a couple of little bits of quarterback news. We
could just do them really quick before we get out
of here. We're pushing up ag'inst the time. So Clint
Kubiak announced Tuesday that I love what they leave with
these four time Pro Bowl selection. Kirk Cousins will be
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the starting quarterback. It's like you also could have wrote
aging dusty veteran that some of us are wondering has
like a forty yard completion left in the tank Kirk Cousins, because,
believe it or not, from the adjectives of the descriptors,
those are both the same player over Finanda me doze
and I think that's fine. And again it's just to
begin training camp. I don't think anyone says that he's
starting first day, especially because it's kind of like a
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cool guy. It's not like a Aaron Rodgers staying where
you could se him being mean and aggravated and everybody
taking it out in the media. You can see Cousins.
They're already like best friends, are doing like the step brothers,
meaning together. There's a good chance that I really like
the symbiotic relationship. It looks like they're forming it. And
I'm drafting Mendoza no matter what. Let him fall into
the last rounds and almost every draftedman Jake after pick one,
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P seventy, Mendoza is my QB three. I'm not gonna
be drafting Cousins. Do you think Cousins is viable or
do you think it even hurts any of the weaponry.
I've kind of just been treating it. It is what
it is, because if he's really bad, you'll get Mendoza earlier,
and if he's good, then the attached raiders are fine.
So I don't know. I'm really not overreacting to this.
What do you think about the shot call, the situation
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in Vegas?
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, the QB battle does not concern me for the
pass catchers or anybody else that I'm drafting around these guys.
You and I have always disagreed about drafting Mendoza simply
because I don't like to have a guy sit on
my bench potentially, you know, for a few weeks, without
knowing that the upside is going to be really massive.
It'd be one thing if this was like Jackson Dart situation,
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and I expect him to go out and immediately just
put up a lot of Fantasy points. I'm pretty hesitant.
I'm pretty lax on any of my exposure to Fernando Mendoza.
I love that these two are our best pals and
they're going out and buying khakis together or whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I do.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
All that I do, I do, but.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I do think, yeah, yeah, but I will say I'm
not drafting Kirk Cousins for the few games that he's
presumably gonna start.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, I'm with that. I also wouldn't draft Mendoza in redraft.
I think you kind of let that sit on the line.
If you waited too long on quarterback, that's not the
QB two that you'd want anyway, Right, That's where the
different formats come into play. I was just writing up
quarterbacks of the day at Fantasy Life, and if you again,
if you wait, there's plenty of guys available out to
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the QB twelve. But then I think, you know you
you're getting like a shroud. Get a Bryce Young, get
him a leak Willis gets I like Willis, especially of
the running floor. But get somebody that you know is
gonna play, right, Get somebody that you know is playing
and could produce. Because if you're in a league where
your league mats do kind of snatch up the QB twos,
you don't want to be left with zeros. That's that's
kind of a nightmare, all right, This when you're getting
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put on the spot for it's funny. I've just been
avoiding the entire thing, and it's making me a little nervous.
We're talking about Minnesota Kevin O'Connell, who, until he met
JJ McCarthy was quarterback proof on managing against qbs during camp.
Both this is the quote, both Kyler and JJ McCarthy
will take reps with the first team, which I don't like.
They'll also take rex with the second group, which I
(35:28):
don't like. We want an elevator at the QB's position. Yeah, Like,
do you not know who it is? And many in
many ways doing that in the system is is your
you knows your job mentality. Yeah, is he saying? Was
that a subtle shot at McCarthy, who is known to
be a little I don't know. I don't even want
to knock him. Just out there. He's eccentric, he's you know,
he's out there man for Murray. Do you have a
(35:51):
take there are this is a wide piece of the
fantasy industry that is drafting Kyler Murray as the definitive
quarterback for the Vikings best fall formats. When you're married
to this guy and it's not even like they're pairing
with with McCarthy. So, I mean, mccafee. Stuff is really
badly this year? Do you have anything for us? Like
I said, I'm almost out. I like Jefferson late in
(36:11):
the first because I think he's a superstar. Other than that,
I don't care if I have a single Purple Peep leader.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, I think I think.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Maybe I had mentioned this during our qb stas episode,
The fact that Kyler's ADP was so solidified as the
starter this early in the offseason was quizzical. I didn't
quite get that because as much as I like Kyler
Murray from a fantasy perspective, I wasn't so sure that
he would immediately step into that role. He has a
(36:38):
lot of question marks. I know JJ McCarthy has a
lot of question marks. This camp battle does not surprise me.
I don't think that we should have expected much different.
If it goes on too long, that's when I just
back away from it. As you are, John, and I
just say, all right, I don't think I want to
mess with any of these guys. If you can't get
your QB slot figured out early, that to me just
(37:01):
says you don't have confidence in them, So why should
I have confidence in the team around it. With that said,
whend it surprised me if they were just trying to
bump up JJ McCarthy's trade value when all of a
sudden done, now.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
That wouldn't surprise me either.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
So I hope it's Kyler because I think Kyler will
raise the floor and ceiling of pretty much everybody on
that roster for fantasy.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
If it's JJ McCarthy, yeah, it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Those stats for McCarthy were other worldly bad. Just hard
to imagine how bad. Fifty seven percent completion, almost fifteen
percent off target rate, seventy two and a half passer
rating just six point seven ypa almost five percent interception
rate just oh, just terrible. And this is something that
(37:50):
my guy at the Athletic Michael Staffino, developed, He called it.
He calls it splint, right, So it's sacks plus interceptions
splint and the idea being you know, he was very
keen on how bad sacks are, right. I think we're
coming around in that as an industry. I think people
are starting to understand taking sacks is a killer. And
one of the keys to the greatness of the Josh
(38:11):
Allens and the Mahomes is they do not take sacks.
Taking sacks destroys the drive. The numbers are undeniable. So
McCarthy isn't just inaccurate or turn the bull over. He
also takes sacks at an incredible rate. I mean that
number was almost fourteen percent of dropbacks for ending in
a sack an interception. That is just outrageous. I can't
(38:33):
see how he wins a job. So I think it'll
be murray. I guess I'm with you that maybe they're
trying to pump up the value again. People just keep
in mind, it's a non zero chance I've murders it
gets the job. Who mind you, right, now is being
drafted almost universally in front of Jordan Love and Tyler
Schuck who and I think that's patently insane. I really do.
(38:54):
I think that's insane because we've seen the O'Connell system
fail just last year. Maybe Sam Donald is better at
football than a lot of people realized, right where even
O'Connor's like, oh, we could just get a vibe with anybody.
Maybe not, we'll see, but I think that'll do it.
As you creep up to the forty minute mark, Jake,
that was so awesome, and the news really hated heavy,
but it's important to kind of parsival this stuff. So
(39:15):
from Jake and from John and our wonderful producer Robbie,
appreciate you all. Thanks for listening, and have a wonderful weekend.
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