March 5, 2026 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hey, check this out. I love that I did this
a year ago.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It's the Northwest Sports Show and it kicks off today
through the weekend at the Minneapolis Convention Center and tomorrow.
Because it's I mean, it's fishing and outdoor bits, it's boats,
it's RV's travel and power sports.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
You're going to see all of that at the Sports Show.
It's sweet.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
But I'm going to be there tomorrow from four to
six pm for a little Friday night fish fry. So
if you plan on coming down to the Northwest Sports Show,
let's have some fish and chips, chat about our favorite
football team and all the weird stuff that's happening between
now and the legal tampering period. So again, Minneapolis Convention Center,
Northwest Sports Show Tomorrow, four to six pm. Come say hi. Details,
KFA dot com, keyword calendar.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Bird.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Are you Are you wearing that shirt on Twin Cities
Live Today three to four thirty child shirt?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh why it look you look fantastic? Yeah? Thank you?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Perfect for your skin tone, the definition of your shoulders. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So why why wouldn't you wear that on TV today?
I don't know. I feel like it's just like not
quite TV.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Enough.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Yeah, not TV enough to find TV material, I don't know.
Just like a little nicer than just a post in
that shirt. Man, this will thank you if this was Uh, I'll.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Give you one hundred dollars to wear that shirt today
on TV. I'll give it to you right now, double
dog damnit. And if you don't wear it, then just
give it back to me next week. Was with that
weird chuckle?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Ay these things is a funny bit that we're going Down's.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Not a bit good in the shirt. People still compliment
people thank you. If this was State Fair time, i'd
wear this. Oh yeah, think I think it actually may
warn this outdoors?
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Out outdoors, you know, it's like salmon's form out.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It's more salmon season for sure.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I will say this though, before we get going, Nordo,
I'll see you tomorrow at the Northwest Sports Show, but
for real, I will be there for Twin Cities Live
as well.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Are you cooking the fish fry? No?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
They're not leting me cook the fish and chips. You're
you're an elite culinary mind.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Why not? I just don't.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I don't have the fryer for it. So uh no,
we're gonna I'm gonna be eating the fish and chips.
That's the fun part on a Friday night fish fry. No,
that's cool though, you're gonna be so the live show,
that's where you're going to be.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
So we're doing what we called a split show. So
I'll have two live hits out there and then once
I'm done, I'll come find you.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Oh hell yeah, man, No, that's sweet.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Yeah, So I think i'll be done around you know, shortly.
I don't think I go all the way to four thirty.
I think I have like a three thirty hit and
then like maybe a four or something of the four.
So by about four fifteen, I can maybe come find you, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
And whether or not you're wearing a salmon ship, I'll
be happy to see you.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Hey, guys, can I come Yeah, yeah, And I'll bring
the vinegar for the fish and chips.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I'll bring the tartar sauce and the ketchup and that'll
be good with your salmon shirt.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
On big on condiments.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Everybody knows that one hundred and fifty dollars right now,
that salmon shirt. Twin Cities Live three to four thirty
today on Channel five. You gotta wear that shirt. You
look fantastic. I'm thinking about the crowd. I'm thinking about
the eyes, the people meter, the Nielsen, whatever, the you know.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
It's really interesting because our show, you know, we've had
people come on and they do your colors.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
You never heard of that. So oh you mean like
match your clothes to your skin tone. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
So look, they'll basically put all these like different tones
of color against your skin and your palette basically and
say like, Okay, you're kind of like this vibe, this
is like looks good on you. These are the ones
to avoid because they don't look good on you. I've
never had that that makes them, right, I don't know.
I guess they're expert opinion in anything, right.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
It's like what happens when they get done and they say, Eric,
nothing looks.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Good and Ben, everything looks good on all. That's not true.
That's not true. I mean, there's just very very clear
that there are colors that that contradict our skin tone,
that do not make us look aren't.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
There colors like olive green? Olive green is a tough
one to wear, or or just certains that everybody's like, oh,
I don't know for.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Me, horizontal stripes create a problem. But I'm working on.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I bet you I can make you laugh. Well, of
course you can stop laughing, blaze a right, stop smiling.
So I was in Charleston, South Carolina, you know whatever,
within the last month, and they had a clothing store
on a street called King King Street. There's kind of
cool called Jordan Lash. My favorite brand of pants are
(04:54):
called Bracts b R A x H.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
All right, so this Jordan Lash, I mean, you know, it.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Like cliched arm and leg to get if you wanted
to get a bunch of pairs. So like, I'm like, okay,
I like these powder blue. I'll take those. And they
had this, and I bring this up because he mentioned
olive green. It's more of a hunter green, kind of
a darker green, kind of a command, you know, like
army green. And I loved them. So I brought them
(05:21):
to Denver with me last weekend. Wore them to the
Wolves Nuggets game with my kids. Here's the laugh part.
First time I wore them in a parking ramp, walked
ten feet from the car, didn't see a curb, tripped toppled,
went down.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Look at the strawberry.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
No you can now, don't let the strawberries healing, Okay,
I mean hurt like an actual wound. First time I
wore these bracts green that they no longer make, and
I love them and they fit beautifully. I stumble old
people to hole and.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I and now bloodstained on a hole.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
There's a hole in the new and so then I
call them yesterday, we get with him yesterday. It's like, well,
they don't make those anymore. You you might have had
the last pair that they ever made. That's why they
were X amount percent off.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
What about patching? No patchings? And now we don't pass.
You don't patch, don't patch it because of everybody will
always be able to know that you patched. No, the whole.
The hole is the hole, donut hole, a little a
quarter of a doughnut hole, but it's still a hole
in my new pants that I worked for fifteen minutes.
We ripped on a curb, toppled, got a strawberry, and
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lost my pants.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You can't wear those, I told you, laughed, that's an
unbelievable dagger like wound on your leg.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yauta wants to look about from Derek and Kohli. Now
was it a point?
Speaker 5 (06:52):
And laugh or was it like, oh my gosh, old
man dad down this.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
This was Derek's Christmas gift to go to Denver to
visit his sister. I'll arrange for tickets to Wolves Nuggets
and you can bring your best friend Nathan.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So oh, so co wasn't there. No, Coley was. So
they're all there.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
None of them laughed because they all thought I hit
my head on the bumper of a car. Your boy
went down hard. Okay, I mean we're not. I'm not
being hyperbolic with this. Your boy went down hard. Yes,
it was a disaster. So nobody laughed. They were, especially Coley,
was a little scared. First thing, I said, because I'm
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I'm startle raised, I'm you know, I'm I don't know.
I would laugh if I know somebody's not super badly hurt.
I said, it's okay to laugh, kids, because I do
the same. None of them laughed. They all thought I
hit my head. So but all I could say during
the course of the day is I love these pants,
and now they.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Really so. I can't take them to a tailor and
find a color to match. No, don't do that.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
What about wearing them with the what about wearing them
with the hole. I mean, think about it. Ninety nine
point three percent of the pants are fine. Yeah, well
and they cost a bucking high chain.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Listen, short seasons coming up, I mean Brac shortz.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, no, buddy better, but I toppled all right. NFL
free agency starts Monday at eleven o'clock in the cornfields.
A lot of quarterback conversation around here. However, there is
a percolating and big, big, big NFL news that has
taken place recently. Let's go over to the big, big,
(08:34):
big NFL news desk and here's the con Well.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
We'll start here.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
How about this Chiefs and Rams trade, Mister Leeber, the
Rams get Trent McDuffie, high cornerback from the Chiefs. The
Chiefs are getting the Rams twenty ninth overall pick plus
a twenty twenty six fifth and sixth and a twenty
twenty seven third round pick.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
That's according to Schefty, and it's a it's a weird thing. Now.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
It's not weird on the Rams side. They still get
the thirteen overall picks, so that's all good. It's weird
on the chief side because they have that seventh rounder
from years back. Jalen Watson, who's going to be a
free agent already, So they trade away one of their
high enders and maybe the plan they'll get they'll get
Watson back. But a little depth issue for the Chiefs
and the secondary specifically.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
What's you think about it? Well?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
I think they realize that, hey, not making the playoffs
really sucks, Like not being a serious contender with Patrick
Mahomes is not what we're built for. I just wonder
if they're just they they're looking to do something major
in the draft, and I don't know what that would
be outside of just going after Jeremiah Love.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
The performance that.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Love had, the glaring need to have a true running
back in that system is something that they really haven't had.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I mean, is this going to be a copycat bit?
Kenneth Walker wins Super Bowl MVP? Good mostly between the
T guy, but they stretched him outside the numbers more
than usual and the Super Bowls and everybody has to do.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
That, it's possible. I think.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I think that we've seen a trend the last couple
of years, the importance of running backs and the importance
of athletic pass catching running backs that can give you
three downs. And I think that's what Jeremiah Love has
proven to be and he's a true home run guy.
So if that is the case, then this does help
them potentially move up into that maybe top five pick
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where they could make sure that they really get a
guy like that.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I mean, they made it work with Pacheco, but now
injury issues they had to bring it, didn't they bring
Kareem Hunt back?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I believe.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And like you said, though, whether it's it's Houston getting
David Montgomery and the issues they've had health wives are
running backs.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Ravid Montgomery's out of the division.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Across the league, you are seeing such an emphasis a
on health related issues with the running backs. But the
ability to do what the Seahawks did with Kenneth Wallucker
and then Charbonnet pre n that's a big deal, no
doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
How about this Diggsy. Diggsy's going to be a free agent,
mister Leiver, Yep, he's.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Probably, I don't know if he's already on that list
that you were running through, PA, but Diggsie's going to
be a free agent. They save, well, he was going
to go from ten and a half million to twenty
six and a half million in terms of the cap charge.
So they said three years, nearly seventy million dollars, we'll
just take one and we'll send you on your way.
What kind of difference they use, Kyle Williams, you got
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the booty cat, the tight ends with Drake may not
that Diggs wasn't, you know, important and vital in certain spots.
But thousand yards for TDS maybe not the season that
either side of that table expected into twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, I think so. I mean.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I was when I was getting ready for that Houston
game that I that I worked in New England. You know,
I was watching just more more film than I'd ever
watched on New England really on both teams throughout the
whole season, and I just think that, you know, Diggs
just kind of lacks the separation that he used to have,
and he never was like a big run after catch guy.
You know, he'd give it, he'd give it a few
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yards and all that stuff, and then all of a sudden,
how many times we see him just like dive forward
and kind of lay it down because he didn't he
wanted to avoid contact and didn't want to fight for
extra yards.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
And I think all that's.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Just kind of catching up to him along with just
some of the distraction factor with his off the field stuff.
It sounds like, you know, the thing is it sounds
like from at least talking to a few people there,
that they really enjoyed have him around the locker room,
like he maybe is matured in a way that was
not being a distraction, was kind of being a leader
at least during the wide receiver room. So I don't
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know if that was a huge, huge factor, but I
just think contract wise, lack of production, lack of separation,
especially with that short, quick passing game, he wasn't sort
of the downfield threat that we kind of knew him
to be beforehand. So I think it's a perfect storm
of contract and performance were just kind of meet in
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the middle.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
NFL wise, there's you know, you got Johnny Smith getting
released by the Steelers. That's going to save about seven
million for steel Town. Darnell Mooney, Lieber, You've always been
a huge Darnell Mooney fan. Falcons wide receiver. They're gonna
they're gonna save some cash with him. I do want
to kind of pivot this if I can to. I mean, really,
the the Vikings are kind of dominating like NFL rumor
(13:20):
mills and speculation right now. And you and I were
talking off air, just this Jonathan Allen thing maybe hitting
us the same way in a weird way in terms
of what we've heard, and it's from all the right people,
whether it's Aaron Jones, it's Javon Hargrave. But Jonathan Allen
kind of surprised me yesterday.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Yeah, it actually did, because when we were looking at
this at the start of the offseason, I'm thinking all
the things that have happened so far and have not
surprised me. The Jonathan Allen want to surprise me a
little bit because I thought that now maybe he wasn't
quite the impact player that we thought.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
He was going to be.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I thought he was consistent, and I thought he was
a good enough, a good enough player with the veteran
presence in this type of scheme, he was doing his job.
I thought that maybe flew in the face of just
stat hunting. So you'd watch back some of these games
and you're like, he actually played pretty well, Like you
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wouldn't see it from the stats.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Nobody's gonna be like writing big articles about him.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
But I think that he was doing things within the
scheme that really helped out other players become successful, helping
out some of the linebackers stay free, all of those
little the dirty work stuff. I thought he did a
good job of doing that. And then you look at
the fact that we're only saving what six or seven
million dollars against the cap, So like, basically, why wouldn't
we keep this veteran presence that was consistent throughout the
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whole year, that played, you know, healthy, basically throughout the
whole year. Six million dollars not the biggest cap savings,
And then we're going to replace him with what right?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
You know?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
So we get rid of hard Grave, we get rid
of we get rid of him, and then all of
a sudden, now we really want to go with this
youth movement. At the defensive tackle and defensive line standpoint,
Brazinsky's making plays. He's making plays. But I guess I
just don't understand what the plan is going to be.
And it's not for me to necessarily understand today. But
we don't know what the quarterback plan is going to be.
(15:12):
How are we going to know what the third defensive
tackle plan is?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
No, but it's it's it is just interesting how.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
We look at the glaring needs on defense at cornerback
and now it's safety, and now we kind of have
to put defensive line in the mix as well to.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Cross safety off when they get Tinam and theenem and
I mean possibly, but then also, what are we doing
with with Grenard situation?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Is he really going to be traded? If he is,
where did that come from all of a sudden. That's
kind of a surprise. Although if you're looking again, if
you're looking to build assets and all this other stuff,
why not sell high if you can? And it sounds
like maybe a second rounder for this year and maybe
you know a fourth or fifth rounder this year as
well or something like that is kind of his uh,
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his compensation when it comes to trade. So that could
really help out in this draft. But now you're really
going young and if we are trying to get all
of this cap savings, then that tells me that we're
not gonna be a big buyers in free agency, so
we're not getting top tier free agents to come here
to fill any one of those holes. So now we
really really really have to like kill it in this draft.
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You know, in this one year we have a pseudo GM.
So there's this a lot of just there's a lot
of kind of cloudiness around the play that's going forward.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Flora is an a roundabout way, I'm being told caught
a Javon Hargrave related social media stray.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Just listen to what I said.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
In twenty twenty six, a defensive coordinator for a football
team in a roundabout way caught a stray on social
media from in a roundabout way via a repost from
somebody who played for him last year.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, how about this?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
So Seaford had posted yesterday on X add Jonathan Allen
to the list of veteran players depart in the vikings.
We just talked about that six and a half million
in cap space. He nailed it. Well, then, I don't
know who this person is. We'll call him Marcelo. That's
what he calls himself. If your D line, he quote
posted Seaffert, if your D line and want to get
to the QB Brian Flores's system is not for you.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
So that's Marcelo. It was reposted by Javon Hargrave.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
On Asks. Javon Hargrave found something called Marcello's tweet and
reposted it.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Basically saying, dog, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
If you want to get to the QB from the
interior d Line Flores's system.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
According to Javon Hargrave, right, not for you. How about that?
I wonder what Jalen Redman has to say about That's
what I was going to say.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
It's like seemed to be for Jalen, it seemed to
be it worked out for him, worked out all right,
for ld R a little bit exactly. And I thought
tyro tyron in Dawkins actually when he was when he
was flashing, he was actually getting vertical and kind of
and I don't know. I mean, look, I know players
are asked to do certain things in certain situations that
we don't always know from the public. But you know,
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over a seventeen game stretch, I find it hard to
believe that you have to blame the the scheme as
to why you weren't as more effective as you should
have been.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, with with with Jonathan Allen and Hargrave, now we
I guess we'll get to see, right, We'll get to
see with with both Redmond, Levi, Drake Rodriguez, Taki Taiminy
Slash Taki Taiamani in that mix. Now, first it at
ten forty five. It's ten forty five. Now you have
me confused on how to say it. No, it's it's
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it's time. On it's time.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
HOI yeah, I mean we we've all had problems with names.
And Taki Taimani doesn't play much, but like when he
would get in the game, the analyst occasionally would like,
you know, he he would say Taki tot Todd Timminy
drop a Timmony on him.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I nearly had to pull off live one time. I
was arm.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
We've all spent We've all had those moments where we're
just searching back of our brains, just desperate, trying to
find the right pronunciation.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
This Bernard thing kind of concerns me. You do get
assets potentially if you trade him, you do you do save?
I think you saved like twelve million dollars. Is Dallas
Turner ready to rock?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Though?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
You know I kind of floated this a bit yesterday
when I was filling in for Pa and I thought
he was splash year. I thought he had more explosive moments.
I still don't think that consistently that he's winning even
the one on one matchups at times A couple of
the sacks. You like the sack numbers, but you're talking
coverage sacks. You're talking rundowns in a few different spots,
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and the idea of potentially moving on from Grenard, and
now you're you're bookending Andrew van Ginkel. I need to
know that he's completely healthy and all of that. And
then Dallas Turner, that's another concerning spot for me.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I'm I'm right there with you. I as much as
I think it's that blow me away. If they traded
Jonathan Grenard, it's crazy. I hope they find I mean,
it's it's basically, isn't it. This is the.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Premises he wants he wants to raise, right. I think
that's like a market correction or something.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
To know that, you know, I had not heard that either.
I'm not saying that that's not true. I mean that
I am that very much. Could be something that is going.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
To verify that, then maybe I don't want to pull
that out of the dark. That's okay, Timmany.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
There we go got a laugh after I said I
am second guessing that. I got a scowl on his face,
so I thought I was serious. And I call him
Timmany and show him my strawberry and everything's fine.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Yeah, yeah, that would be surprising that he would ask
for a market correction. But listen, I don't know if
I feel super comfortable with Dallas Turner and Van Gyinkle
being our only two outside rushers.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
And I'm sorry I chuckled there.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
This is the third social media post that I've seen
the last couple of days from Minneapolis St. Paul International Airport,
people saying Kyler Murray is by baggage, claiming to some
kid that's like four to ten. Oh, the rental car
bed a new one. Here's kids. Just I mean, he's
just frontlicking with joy. Tried to jump on that baggage.
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The garrasel Caler Murray's arrived.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
So I had riged.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I'd originally seen it elsewhere, but Albert Breer did did
post a couple of days ago that he's seeking a
market correction to his contract.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Per sources. So I think you're lying. I think he
wants a little more cash. Well, we're just rolling in it,
so let's just give it. I want to give him
a raise. I want to find money for Jonathan Garnard.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Just cut Vangankle Turner and give Grenard all of their money.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
The thing is, the.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Thing is like I if I'm a player and I'm
an agent, yeah would Why wouldn't you ask?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I mean, yeah, you'd be catching the team at a
good time.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Okay, yeah, maybe you're not reading the room correctly, but
at least I would. I would at least ask like, hey, man,
like can we get this up? Like based on his
per and like they do all their research with the
agents and like hey this guy, here's here's this comp
in the league, Like can we get it up to here?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I could see them asking, but demanding would be a
different thing. And if they demand and then he doesn't
get it, then I could. I guess I'd understand, like, well, listen,
if you're if you're not going to pay him, then
trade him.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Just because we have an acting general manager. If you
around the league have heard of because he's been hiding
behind a desk as the capologist with a with miss
batis his assistant who's really good at what she does.
Doesn't mean he's some bow levil sitting on a stump
bragging to a dog in heat.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
You can just rip him off left and right.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
People see like acting general manager, let's call the Vikings.
See you we can give for Gernard, I know about
a fifth and two sevens next year. What do you think, oh, Ronnie.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Well, that's that's the thing about Brazinski is like he's
been around, correct, He's literally in all of.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
These meetings, any smarter than all of you? All of
is that what they did with the previous No, not us.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Them, Huy smarter than us too. And I'm saying everybody
in the league, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
He created the poison pill. He changed the complexion of
the NFL. Yeah, each snead, did you create the poison pill? No,
now you're about their busy winning rings. But nevertheless, Brazinski smart.
I just wonder people are trying to take advantage of
the situation because we have an acting GM.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Can you imagine the stories that he's gotten from agents,
just from like even lesser players asking.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
For more money.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
I'm like, I'm sure if that if that's true what
Aberbreers is reporting that that he's asking for a market correction,
that is like so far down on the total pool
of like bizarre asks by players and agents.
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Speaker 1 (24:11):
Nine to noon, Oh please, oh.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
By thank you, Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Tyler Murray.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
If it's him, what will we like and what should
be concerned?
Speaker 5 (24:45):
What we'd like, obviously, is the athleticism, the ability to
create plays using his legs to get out of trouble,
although I have some stats to back that up that
maybe he does. He takes more sex than you would think.
I think he's accurate. I think that's a huge thing.
So when he does throw the ball, he can be accurate.
I think some of that is some of those accuracy
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numbers zero can be I think slightly jaded and in
a way where you're when you're on your secondary route
and you've broken the pocket and you've created more time,
then receivers tend to be more open because the scramble
coverage is very difficult. So I think some of those
on target numbers maybe a little bit skewed. I think
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here's the things that here's the things that concern me
up until the last two years. Really twenty twenty four,
when he hit his first his whole his full season.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
With Drew Patsen the offensive coordinator, it.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Really revitalized his development into not just being a shotgun quarterback.
I think over ninety percent of the time using shotgun
with Cliff Kingsbury and others, a really good point. He
went more under center, did a little bit more play action. Now,
is it at the same level as koc Not even close,
Like not even close. So like, yes, there's development there,
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there's growth there to be more of an all around quarterback.
But he's still probably more comfortable out of shotgun. I
think that he doesn't get the ball down the field
as much as you think on a consistent basis. For sure,
there are shots again, secondary shots, Yeah, scramble coverage. You
give the little fingerwave to the guy going down the
field and like, nope, just hit it long. I'll throw
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the ball down to you. I think within system he's
not a deep ball thrower, and I think that's a
little bit of a concern based on what Kaos wants
as well.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Same question, what you think will like and what some
concerns can be for quarterback Gino Smith.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Geno Smith, I think that he takes a lot of
risky throws. I think that his wealth of veteran leadership
and all that stuff locker room, I think that he
will he would win over the team very easily.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I think he'd be a likable guy to have. I
think that he makes.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
The interesting thing about him is some of the things
that we said about Sam Darnold, I think Geno Smith
has some of those traits as well, some of that
reputation of bad decision making. Why would you make that
throw in that situation and sort of look what happened
in a full off season in a season with KOC
and you know, sort of his twoeligit education. So I
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think that could maybe be fixed and moved around.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Again.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I don't think that he gets the ball down the
field very very much. He actually takes a lot of
sacks now again, could be offensive line, could just be
like not seeing it.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Clearly.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Of the three guys that I've kind of looked at,
between Murray and Derek Carr and Gino Smith, he's got
the lowest lowest QB rating in the last five years
of those three quarterbacks, he's got the lowest air yards
of getting the ball down the field. So he's even
more of a dink and dunk than Kyler Murray. And
he takes I think, risky calculate, you know, calculator risk
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decisions that don't always go his way.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
So Anthony Richardson and that stuff that popped up, that's
a non player, right.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Well, I don't know if it's a non player.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
I just think that if you bring a guy like
Anthony Richardson and you're basically bringing in another version of
JJ McCarthy, So it's not solving the problem. It's just
basically bringing in another guy to elevate what you hope
is JJ McCarthy or Anthony Richardson in a true battle
mono a mono head to head competition and may the
best man win. These other guys I think you bring
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in and it's almost like, well, it's kind of a competition,
but basically, we're bringing this guy into be the stopgap
quarterback for this one season and we'll see what happens
and see how we feel about JJ going forward. But
you'd be kind of a one year rental with the
hope that maybe a Kyler Murray becomes your franchise guy,
I think, and Anthony Richardson comes in as just like, well,
you're here to compete and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
A Rodge.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
A Rodger is another guy that I think maybe doesn't
fit the system him as well. We clearly know that
he does not press the ball down the field. At
least that's that's what Arthur Smith was doing last year,
and it looks like they didn't want to get him hit.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
If that's the case, whether that's coming from Arthur Smith
and Mike Tomlin or if that's coming from Aaron Rodgers
saying like listen, I just at over forty years old,
I just can't be taking these hits anymore. And that
was intentional from the quarterback spot, or maybe that was
just the offensive system. I don't quite know, but it
certainly it kind of worked. I mean, I don't know
if it would work for our offense. Certainly he would
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be brought in to be the starter one percent, you're
our guy for twenty twenty six, and then hopefully, hopefully
a guy like JJ would just kind of see how
the quarterback, the handling of being the franchise guy. How
it really looks like this is a guy that's put
every franchise he's been on on his shoulders. You know,
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you may not like how he conducts himself in some
of the things that he says, but he knows how
to handle the pressure and he knows how to handle
all the internal mechanisms that take place of being a
franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Hopefully JJ would see that. I think that's a big benefit.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Jimmy Garoppolo another situation where I don't think he's anointed
as a starter.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Jimmy Garoppolo.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
He's had several opportunities to take over teams and he
just really hasn't. And I think there's something to that.
So would he excite me? Not necessarily. I think he'd
be a great backup if JJ ends up beating him out.
But again, another guy that I think that you could
see kind of how it's done and how it's done
the right way.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Internally.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Won't see you until potentially next week. Free agency begins Monday. Lastly,
any many free agents you hope they get like, oh boy,
I mean, because we're on a budget here. Despite some
cuts that could take place, But I'm like, like, I mean,
Juan Jennings was the first one that I identified. I
still like him a little more costly than I thought
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it would be. I got some others that we're going
to share today, d or tomorrow. Cost effective. But what
about you any cost effective freebies your day? Well, I mean,
let's just kind of how about we do this. I
have a small list of players that are interesting to me.
I'm not necessarily going to single out just one beloved. Uh,
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Jimmel Dean cornerback, Mike Hilton cornerback, Jalen Watson, who's.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Dean played for the Bucks and most recently the Bucks.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Yeah, obviously the Chiefs are probably gonna get rid of
Jalen Watson because of their whole situation. Uh, Kevin Byern
is not going to be on the table anymore at safety,
you know, Jimmy Ward from the Texans might be an
interesting guy. Uh, here's where it gets really interesting. Now
that we have all the defensive line issues. Da Kwan
Jones from the Hills, Tier Tart the Chargers, big Man
(31:44):
big Man, John Franklin Myers from the from the Obroncos,
I have a small list of running backs I'm not
going to get into those because I don't think they're
going to be free agent guys. Jacoby Myers, I think
we've talked about him because you've like Juwan Jennings. Jacoby
Myers from the Jags would be interesting.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
And then do you hate Juwan Jennings. No, not at all?
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Good nou And then Tyler Linda Linda Baum Center for
the Ravens, no chance.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I know, I A too expensive. I know, I get it.
He's the bomb. I know he's but.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
See then you get into like why are they letting
him go at age twenty six? It's like, why does
new coach guy the other of the floor, why doesn't
he want Kyler?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
You know?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
And see I wondered that yesterday. So then I went
and looked at Jacoby Brissette's game logs. Jacoby Brissette low
key was effective last year, was good.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Last year, he was good.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
So if I remember, if I remember, some of the
rumors coming out of Arizona last year was that they
didn't think Kyler was better.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Right, It's like he was. He was injured, he came back,
he was a healthy scratch, and that lost Cannon's number.
I'm glad you still have it.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Part of that was the system too, wasn't it. I
mean we talked about it during the season last year.
I mean it's the freaking Cardinals were They were not good,
but in some ways you mentioned it. With Petscene's offense,
it was almost as if Brissette could run it more
efficiently and effectively than Kyler could.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Yeah, and if that's if that's the case, if that's
how the Arizona Cardinals feel, then don't you think that
we have probably the same sort of red flags based
off of our offense.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I would think so.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Now, again, we'd have a lot of faith in what
our offensive coaches can do and what they can pull
out of people. But I do feel like with Kyler
you are sort of reinventing the wheel with him in
his skill set a little bit by put him in
a system that we run.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
You and my friend are the best, and we will
watch you on Channel five today between three and four
thirty Twin Cities Live.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Thank you for the time. Yeah, thank you, notre I'll
see tomorrow, see you tomorrow.
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Bee Versage in booth, analyst for the Minnesota Vikings KF
an Audio network, joins us, now, uh and he played
for legendary coach Lou Holtz. Had not coach Holtz died
yesterday at the age eighty nine. The analyst joins us, Now,
how how many years did you play for for Lou?
And and how good were your teams at Notre Dame?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
I played what for four seasons ninety to ninety three,
and we I mean during that time we had a
lot of success. For we had four January one Bowls.
I went to the Sugar I went to the Orange Bowls,
A freshman Sugar Bowls, A sophomore and then Cotton Bowl
twice as a senior.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
We finished second in ninety three.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Uh, and then I can't remember the next highest, but
we were we were in the top ten I think
all four years that we were there. And I mean,
I look at my recruiting class alone, having two guys
go into the National Football League Hall of Fame Bryant
Young and Jerome bettis just out of my recruiting class.
So it was a great time. It was a great
time to be there, and we won a lot of
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football and and uh, you know, coach Holtz was was
the reason for a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
What Pete, what what are some facets or some traits
that made lou a coach who would last to coach
all over the place almost six hundred games.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
He's a guy, He's a guy. I think he's a
guy that did not care what you thought of him.
He just wanted to win and he was going to
do whatever. He's going to do whatever it took in
his mind to do that, whether it was unpopular, you know,
and there are there are certain there are certain people
(36:41):
out there who can do that, who can walk into
a building and not care what the people around him
think because they're so fixated and so focused on what
they want to do, they're not worried about what other
people think. They're not worried about you know, he wasn't
worried about what players thought of him. He didn't, he
wasn't worried about any of that. He had a standard
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and something that he wanted to adhere to, and he did.
And it was a you know, it was very demanding.
He demanded perfection, he demanded excellence, He demanded all these things.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
And if you didn't if you didn't comply, if.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
You if you thought you could do things better your
own way, there was no room for you in the program.
So yeah, it was it was a very There was
never a moment to relax. And that pressure was that
pressure was there. It was there every single day, all day,
all the time. And I mean he was I mean,
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I mean talk about stories. I remember, if you if
college fans remember back in ninety one, we had a
rough year, but then we ended up going to Sugar
Bowl and playing Florida, and there was a joke out
there about how you know what, you know, what's the
difference between Notre Dame and Cheerios and Cheerio Cheerio's bowling
and a bowl and all this and that and the
other thing, and so of course Lou didn't like any
(38:06):
of that. And we were down in New Orleans practicing
at Michael Stonebreakers Old High School, so it was a
Catholic high school in Talent.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
It's where we practiced.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
The last day in pads was a big day for
all of us because we'd all go out and party
that night because it was the last day hitting for
the entire season. So we were just looking through, looking
to get through this last day in pads and then
enjoy our evening. And it was We get to the
practice field and it's absolutely pouring rain. So we're waiting,
and we're waiting. We're all sitting in the gymnasium. Lou said,
all right, we're not going to practice here. Get on
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the buses. So we get on the buses and we
go back on the Canal Street downtown in New Orleans
and we pull into this expos Center right like just
like we were in Indye, big concrete building whatever. So
we get off the buses and guys are starting to
take their pads off, and los like, who told you
guys to take your pads off, we're practicing. We practiced
(38:57):
in full pads. Wow, Thud just didn't tackle of the
ground inside on concrete for two hours three days before
the game against each other. Guys were having to line
up funny because the pillars, the concrete pillars were in
the way. But that was the mentality that we had,
and it was, you know, who's going to be afraid
of Florida when you're out there, you know, playing against
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some of the best and beating the hell out of
each other on concrete in tennis shoes with full pads
to you know, three four days before the game.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
I mean, we it was. It was live every week.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
It was live on Thursday, We had a game on Saturday,
live goal line thursdays.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
I mean, it was. It was.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
It was intense, man, that's and it helped us win
quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
I think.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
So. Would the late low Halts be described discip disciplinarian maybe,
but sounds like he was a task master?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Is that accurate? Yeah, I mean disciplinarian it was.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Yeah, I mean the disciplinarian side of things is is
interesting here. You know, there were a lot of rules.
You know, we couldn't have earrings, and no hair below
the lip. And there were some rules like that, you know,
lo long hair of that kind of stuff, but he
was he enforced those rules. I mean, there were many
guys that were left behind on road trips because they
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were late for a meeting during the week.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
You know, things like that.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
If you if you didn't if you didn't comply, you
never got on the field. So you had to take
care of a lot of different things, being on time,
being you know all those things, or else you'll you'll
never even get you would never even get a shot
to get on the field.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
And that was the demanding side.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Now before well before Pete played for the late Lou Haltz,
a Notre Dame. Holtz coached the Jets for a season
and he resigned with a game to go in the
nineteen seventy six season. Later, he said, quote God did
not put Lou Holtz on this earth to coach in
the in the pros end quote, so like and maybe
maybe you have more examples here other than Jimmy Johnson
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from the Canes from Miami to Dallas. What why is
it so difficult for even the biggest name college coaches
to lead NFL teams to a bunch of wins.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I think it's you.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
I mean, I don't know if it's any different now,
but back then you won in college differently. I remember
a story of Lou Holtz when he was with the Jets, right,
and when Lou got there, it's a different you know,
these are professionals, these are grown men, and kind of
the college stuff doesn't work, the raw ras stuff doesn't work.
You know, the the you know all those things that
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when you're eighteen to twenty two years old, those things resonate,
whereas when you're dealing with professionals, they don't. Of him
sitting in a film room in a meeting with with
the offense with Joe Namath, I mean, Joe Namath was
a quarterback with the Jets at the time, and he
was watching film with the group and he's got basking Joe.
He's like, Joe, what coverages this? You know what coverages this?
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And finally name is like lean back and said, coach,
you know what flank coverage this is? Like it just
you know, his that way, that form, that intimidating, that
that bit just didn't resonate at that you know, at
that time. And I remember I think it was before
Red bought the team. Uh, Sid Hartman was walking around
all happy one day because he said, so and so
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is gonna buy this team. I can't remember the guy's name,
but his you know, he wants to have lou Holtz
come in. And the prospect of playing for lou Holtz
again in the NFL. I was like, no, not gonna it.
Just it just wouldn't work because I had anything against him.
The way he goes about his business wouldn't work at
the NFL level. And I think that's the big I
think that's and there's a lot of stories about Jimmy
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Johnson flying back from a game in Tokyo and taking
guys right out to the field and making them put
the pads on and cover kickoffs in full pads for
like an hour and a half right off the airplane
coming back. I mean he didn't mess around either, So
that that mentality, I it doesn't always resonate with the
professional guys.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Well, may God rest the soul of Lou Holtz to
the here and now for a couple before we say goodbye.
NFL free agency opens on Monday. We all know that
Kyler and Kirk both reportedly are going to be cut.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Now if Kyler Murray.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Is the starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings next year,
what will that be?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Like? Like, what do you know? Right now? This is cool?
Speaker 3 (43:26):
And then you're like kind of like, yeah, I've seen
him play a bunch of times, Like what do you think.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
What I remember about Kyler Murray Paul in the times
that we've seen him? Number One, he loves his tight ends, right,
he loves his tight ends. The other thing, too, is
is I can I read? And this has been a
while now, so but I remember him being a pretty
accurate passer, especially across the metal, being able to to
create or make some throws in tight coverages. So there
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are some there are some good things about him. It's
the it's kind of the off field or the study.
Is he going to dedicate himself? You know, those are
the kinds of those those questions that you have to
have people in the right spots, in the right places
that would know for sure whether or not he's he's
going to be serious and and and devote himself to
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what's going to be necessary to learn a new offense, uh,
and to play in a different type of a scheme. So, uh,
whether or not he's a good fit. I mean, that's
that's kind of the that's kind of the interesting part
between he and cousins. I mean, one guy, you know,
has the acumen and and and the study and the
whole thing. It's just is he can he still physically
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do it. The other guy very physically gifted. It's just
a question whether or not, you know, he can handle it.
So it's like which one are you going to choose?
And uh, with the situation as it is, Uh, I
think financials have a lot to do with it because
you can only do so much.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Right now, Thanks, my brother, have a wonderful weekend and
I'll text you later today.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Okay, all right, sounds good to see Paul. See you.
But that's Ben Lever. I'll make that.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Pete Ursich, the analyst in Booth Analysts.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
For the KFA in Minnesota Vikings Audio Network, chatting about
his four year coach at Notre Dame and they had
good teams, went to ball games every year. God rest
the soul of Lou Holtz, who died yesterday at age
eighty nine. Back to the world of hockey around the
corner and Olivia King from youth hockey up joins nine
to noon,
Hey, check this out. I love that I did this
a year ago.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It's the Northwest Sports Show and it kicks off today
through the weekend at the Minneapolis Convention Center and tomorrow.
Because it's I mean, it's fishing and outdoor bits, it's boats,
it's RV's travel and power sports.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
You're going to see all of that at the Sports Show.
It's sweet.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
But I'm going to be there tomorrow from four to
six pm for a little Friday night fish fry. So
if you plan on coming down to the Northwest Sports Show,
let's have some fish and chips, chat about our favorite
football team and all the weird stuff that's happening between
now and the legal tampering period. So again, Minneapolis Convention Center,
Northwest Sports Show Tomorrow, four to six pm. Come say hi. Details,
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Speaker 1 (01:08):
Bird.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Are you Are you wearing that shirt on Twin Cities
Live Today three to four thirty child shirt?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh why it look you look fantastic? Yeah? Thank you?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Perfect for your skin tone, the definition of your shoulders. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So why why wouldn't you wear that on TV today?
I don't know. I feel like it's just like not
quite TV.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Enough.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Yeah, not TV enough to find TV material, I don't know.
Just like a little nicer than just a post in
that shirt. Man, this will thank you if this was Uh, I'll.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Give you one hundred dollars to wear that shirt today
on TV. I'll give it to you right now, double
dog damnit. And if you don't wear it, then just
give it back to me next week. Was with that
weird chuckle?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Ay these things is a funny bit that we're going Down's.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Not a bit good in the shirt. People still compliment
people thank you. If this was State Fair time, i'd
wear this. Oh yeah, think I think it actually may
warn this outdoors?
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Out outdoors, you know, it's like salmon's form out.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It's more salmon season for sure.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I will say this though, before we get going, Nordo,
I'll see you tomorrow at the Northwest Sports Show, but
for real, I will be there for Twin Cities Live
as well.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Are you cooking the fish fry? No?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
They're not leting me cook the fish and chips. You're
you're an elite culinary mind.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Why not? I just don't.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I don't have the fryer for it. So uh no,
we're gonna I'm gonna be eating the fish and chips.
That's the fun part on a Friday night fish fry. No,
that's cool though, you're gonna be so the live show,
that's where you're going to be.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
So we're doing what we called a split show. So
I'll have two live hits out there and then once
I'm done, I'll come find you.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Oh hell yeah, man, No, that's sweet.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Yeah, So I think i'll be done around you know, shortly.
I don't think I go all the way to four thirty.
I think I have like a three thirty hit and
then like maybe a four or something of the four.
So by about four fifteen, I can maybe come find you, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
And whether or not you're wearing a salmon ship, I'll
be happy to see you.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Hey, guys, can I come Yeah, yeah, And I'll bring
the vinegar for the fish and chips.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I'll bring the tartar sauce and the ketchup and that'll
be good with your salmon shirt.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
On big on condiments.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Everybody knows that one hundred and fifty dollars right now,
that salmon shirt. Twin Cities Live three to four thirty
today on Channel five. You gotta wear that shirt. You
look fantastic. I'm thinking about the crowd. I'm thinking about
the eyes, the people meter, the Nielsen, whatever, the you know.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
It's really interesting because our show, you know, we've had
people come on and they do your colors.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
You never heard of that. So oh you mean like
match your clothes to your skin tone. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
So look, they'll basically put all these like different tones
of color against your skin and your palette basically and
say like, Okay, you're kind of like this vibe, this
is like looks good on you. These are the ones
to avoid because they don't look good on you. I've
never had that that makes them, right, I don't know.
I guess they're expert opinion in anything, right.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
It's like what happens when they get done and they say, Eric,
nothing looks.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Good and Ben, everything looks good on all. That's not true.
That's not true. I mean, there's just very very clear
that there are colors that that contradict our skin tone,
that do not make us look aren't.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
There colors like olive green? Olive green is a tough
one to wear, or or just certains that everybody's like, oh,
I don't know for.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Me, horizontal stripes create a problem. But I'm working on.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I bet you I can make you laugh. Well, of
course you can stop laughing, blaze a right, stop smiling.
So I was in Charleston, South Carolina, you know whatever,
within the last month, and they had a clothing store
on a street called King King Street. There's kind of
cool called Jordan Lash. My favorite brand of pants are
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called Bracts b R A x H.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
All right, so this Jordan Lash, I mean, you know, it.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Like cliched arm and leg to get if you wanted
to get a bunch of pairs. So like, I'm like, okay,
I like these powder blue. I'll take those. And they
had this, and I bring this up because he mentioned
olive green. It's more of a hunter green, kind of
a darker green, kind of a command, you know, like
army green. And I loved them. So I brought them
(05:21):
to Denver with me last weekend. Wore them to the
Wolves Nuggets game with my kids. Here's the laugh part.
First time I wore them in a parking ramp, walked
ten feet from the car, didn't see a curb, tripped toppled,
went down.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Look at the strawberry.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
No you can now, don't let the strawberries healing, Okay,
I mean hurt like an actual wound. First time I
wore these bracts green that they no longer make, and
I love them and they fit beautifully. I stumble old
people to hole and.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I and now bloodstained on a hole.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
There's a hole in the new and so then I
call them yesterday, we get with him yesterday. It's like, well,
they don't make those anymore. You you might have had
the last pair that they ever made. That's why they
were X amount percent off.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
What about patching? No patchings? And now we don't pass.
You don't patch, don't patch it because of everybody will
always be able to know that you patched. No, the whole.
The hole is the hole, donut hole, a little a
quarter of a doughnut hole, but it's still a hole
in my new pants that I worked for fifteen minutes.
We ripped on a curb, toppled, got a strawberry, and
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lost my pants.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You can't wear those, I told you, laughed, that's an
unbelievable dagger like wound on your leg.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yauta wants to look about from Derek and Kohli. Now
was it a point?
Speaker 5 (06:52):
And laugh or was it like, oh my gosh, old
man dad down this.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
This was Derek's Christmas gift to go to Denver to
visit his sister. I'll arrange for tickets to Wolves Nuggets
and you can bring your best friend Nathan.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So oh, so co wasn't there. No, Coley was. So
they're all there.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
None of them laughed because they all thought I hit
my head on the bumper of a car. Your boy
went down hard. Okay, I mean we're not. I'm not
being hyperbolic with this. Your boy went down hard. Yes,
it was a disaster. So nobody laughed. They were, especially Coley,
was a little scared. First thing, I said, because I'm
(07:31):
I'm startle raised, I'm you know, I'm I don't know.
I would laugh if I know somebody's not super badly hurt.
I said, it's okay to laugh, kids, because I do
the same. None of them laughed. They all thought I
hit my head. So but all I could say during
the course of the day is I love these pants,
and now they.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Really so. I can't take them to a tailor and
find a color to match. No, don't do that.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
What about wearing them with the what about wearing them
with the hole. I mean, think about it. Ninety nine
point three percent of the pants are fine. Yeah, well
and they cost a bucking high chain.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Listen, short seasons coming up, I mean Brac shortz.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, no, buddy better, but I toppled all right. NFL
free agency starts Monday at eleven o'clock in the cornfields.
A lot of quarterback conversation around here. However, there is
a percolating and big, big, big NFL news that has
taken place recently. Let's go over to the big, big,
(08:34):
big NFL news desk and here's the con Well.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
We'll start here.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
How about this Chiefs and Rams trade, Mister Leeber, the
Rams get Trent McDuffie, high cornerback from the Chiefs. The
Chiefs are getting the Rams twenty ninth overall pick plus
a twenty twenty six fifth and sixth and a twenty
twenty seven third round pick.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
That's according to Schefty, and it's a it's a weird thing. Now.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
It's not weird on the Rams side. They still get
the thirteen overall picks, so that's all good. It's weird
on the chief side because they have that seventh rounder
from years back. Jalen Watson, who's going to be a
free agent already, So they trade away one of their
high enders and maybe the plan they'll get they'll get
Watson back. But a little depth issue for the Chiefs
and the secondary specifically.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
What's you think about it? Well?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
I think they realize that, hey, not making the playoffs
really sucks, Like not being a serious contender with Patrick
Mahomes is not what we're built for. I just wonder
if they're just they they're looking to do something major
in the draft, and I don't know what that would
be outside of just going after Jeremiah Love.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
The performance that.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Love had, the glaring need to have a true running
back in that system is something that they really haven't had.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I mean, is this going to be a copycat bit?
Kenneth Walker wins Super Bowl MVP? Good mostly between the
T guy, but they stretched him outside the numbers more
than usual and the Super Bowls and everybody has to do.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
That, it's possible. I think.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I think that we've seen a trend the last couple
of years, the importance of running backs and the importance
of athletic pass catching running backs that can give you
three downs. And I think that's what Jeremiah Love has
proven to be and he's a true home run guy.
So if that is the case, then this does help
them potentially move up into that maybe top five pick
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where they could make sure that they really get a
guy like that.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I mean, they made it work with Pacheco, but now
injury issues they had to bring it, didn't they bring
Kareem Hunt back?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I believe.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And like you said, though, whether it's it's Houston getting
David Montgomery and the issues they've had health wives are
running backs.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Ravid Montgomery's out of the division.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Across the league, you are seeing such an emphasis a
on health related issues with the running backs. But the
ability to do what the Seahawks did with Kenneth Wallucker
and then Charbonnet pre n that's a big deal, no
doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
How about this Diggsy. Diggsy's going to be a free agent,
mister Leiver, Yep, he's.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Probably, I don't know if he's already on that list
that you were running through, PA, but Diggsie's going to
be a free agent. They save, well, he was going
to go from ten and a half million to twenty
six and a half million in terms of the cap charge.
So they said three years, nearly seventy million dollars, we'll
just take one and we'll send you on your way.
What kind of difference they use, Kyle Williams, you got
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the booty cat, the tight ends with Drake may not
that Diggs wasn't, you know, important and vital in certain spots.
But thousand yards for TDS maybe not the season that
either side of that table expected into twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, I think so. I mean.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I was when I was getting ready for that Houston
game that I that I worked in New England. You know,
I was watching just more more film than I'd ever
watched on New England really on both teams throughout the
whole season, and I just think that, you know, Diggs
just kind of lacks the separation that he used to have,
and he never was like a big run after catch guy.
You know, he'd give it, he'd give it a few
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yards and all that stuff, and then all of a sudden,
how many times we see him just like dive forward
and kind of lay it down because he didn't he
wanted to avoid contact and didn't want to fight for
extra yards.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
And I think all that's.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Just kind of catching up to him along with just
some of the distraction factor with his off the field stuff.
It sounds like, you know, the thing is it sounds
like from at least talking to a few people there,
that they really enjoyed have him around the locker room,
like he maybe is matured in a way that was
not being a distraction, was kind of being a leader
at least during the wide receiver room. So I don't
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know if that was a huge, huge factor, but I
just think contract wise, lack of production, lack of separation,
especially with that short, quick passing game, he wasn't sort
of the downfield threat that we kind of knew him
to be beforehand. So I think it's a perfect storm
of contract and performance were just kind of meet in
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the middle.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
NFL wise, there's you know, you got Johnny Smith getting
released by the Steelers. That's going to save about seven
million for steel Town. Darnell Mooney, Lieber, You've always been
a huge Darnell Mooney fan. Falcons wide receiver. They're gonna
they're gonna save some cash with him. I do want
to kind of pivot this if I can to. I mean, really,
the the Vikings are kind of dominating like NFL rumor
(13:20):
mills and speculation right now. And you and I were
talking off air, just this Jonathan Allen thing maybe hitting
us the same way in a weird way in terms
of what we've heard, and it's from all the right people,
whether it's Aaron Jones, it's Javon Hargrave. But Jonathan Allen
kind of surprised me yesterday.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Yeah, it actually did, because when we were looking at
this at the start of the offseason, I'm thinking all
the things that have happened so far and have not
surprised me. The Jonathan Allen want to surprise me a
little bit because I thought that now maybe he wasn't
quite the impact player that we thought.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
He was going to be.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I thought he was consistent, and I thought he was
a good enough, a good enough player with the veteran
presence in this type of scheme, he was doing his job.
I thought that maybe flew in the face of just
stat hunting. So you'd watch back some of these games
and you're like, he actually played pretty well, Like you
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wouldn't see it from the stats.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Nobody's gonna be like writing big articles about him.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
But I think that he was doing things within the
scheme that really helped out other players become successful, helping
out some of the linebackers stay free, all of those
little the dirty work stuff. I thought he did a
good job of doing that. And then you look at
the fact that we're only saving what six or seven
million dollars against the cap, So like, basically, why wouldn't
we keep this veteran presence that was consistent throughout the
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whole year, that played, you know, healthy, basically throughout the
whole year. Six million dollars not the biggest cap savings,
And then we're going to replace him with what right?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
You know?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
So we get rid of hard Grave, we get rid
of we get rid of him, and then all of
a sudden, now we really want to go with this
youth movement. At the defensive tackle and defensive line standpoint,
Brazinsky's making plays. He's making plays. But I guess I
just don't understand what the plan is going to be.
And it's not for me to necessarily understand today. But
we don't know what the quarterback plan is going to be.
(15:12):
How are we going to know what the third defensive
tackle plan is?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
No, but it's it's it is just interesting how.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
We look at the glaring needs on defense at cornerback
and now it's safety, and now we kind of have
to put defensive line in the mix as well to.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Cross safety off when they get Tinam and theenem and
I mean possibly, but then also, what are we doing
with with Grenard situation?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Is he really going to be traded? If he is,
where did that come from all of a sudden. That's
kind of a surprise. Although if you're looking again, if
you're looking to build assets and all this other stuff,
why not sell high if you can? And it sounds
like maybe a second rounder for this year and maybe
you know a fourth or fifth rounder this year as
well or something like that is kind of his uh,
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his compensation when it comes to trade. So that could
really help out in this draft. But now you're really
going young and if we are trying to get all
of this cap savings, then that tells me that we're
not gonna be a big buyers in free agency, so
we're not getting top tier free agents to come here
to fill any one of those holes. So now we
really really really have to like kill it in this draft.
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You know, in this one year we have a pseudo GM.
So there's this a lot of just there's a lot
of kind of cloudiness around the play that's going forward.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Flora is an a roundabout way, I'm being told caught
a Javon Hargrave related social media stray.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Just listen to what I said.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
In twenty twenty six, a defensive coordinator for a football
team in a roundabout way caught a stray on social
media from in a roundabout way via a repost from
somebody who played for him last year.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, how about this?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
So Seaford had posted yesterday on X add Jonathan Allen
to the list of veteran players depart in the vikings.
We just talked about that six and a half million
in cap space. He nailed it. Well, then, I don't
know who this person is. We'll call him Marcelo. That's
what he calls himself. If your D line, he quote
posted Seaffert, if your D line and want to get
to the QB Brian Flores's system is not for you.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
So that's Marcelo. It was reposted by Javon Hargrave.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
On Asks. Javon Hargrave found something called Marcello's tweet and
reposted it.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Basically saying, dog, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
If you want to get to the QB from the
interior d Line Flores's system.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
According to Javon Hargrave, right, not for you. How about that?
I wonder what Jalen Redman has to say about That's
what I was going to say.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
It's like seemed to be for Jalen, it seemed to
be it worked out for him, worked out all right,
for ld R a little bit exactly. And I thought
tyro tyron in Dawkins actually when he was when he
was flashing, he was actually getting vertical and kind of
and I don't know. I mean, look, I know players
are asked to do certain things in certain situations that
we don't always know from the public. But you know,
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over a seventeen game stretch, I find it hard to
believe that you have to blame the the scheme as
to why you weren't as more effective as you should
have been.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, with with with Jonathan Allen and Hargrave, now we
I guess we'll get to see, right, We'll get to
see with with both Redmond, Levi, Drake Rodriguez, Taki Taiminy
Slash Taki Taiamani in that mix. Now, first it at
ten forty five. It's ten forty five. Now you have
me confused on how to say it. No, it's it's
(18:43):
it's time. On it's time.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
HOI yeah, I mean we we've all had problems with names.
And Taki Taimani doesn't play much, but like when he
would get in the game, the analyst occasionally would like,
you know, he he would say Taki tot Todd Timminy
drop a Timmony on him.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I nearly had to pull off live one time. I
was arm.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
We've all spent We've all had those moments where we're
just searching back of our brains, just desperate, trying to
find the right pronunciation.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
This Bernard thing kind of concerns me. You do get
assets potentially if you trade him, you do you do save?
I think you saved like twelve million dollars. Is Dallas
Turner ready to rock?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Though?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
You know I kind of floated this a bit yesterday
when I was filling in for Pa and I thought
he was splash year. I thought he had more explosive moments.
I still don't think that consistently that he's winning even
the one on one matchups at times A couple of
the sacks. You like the sack numbers, but you're talking
coverage sacks. You're talking rundowns in a few different spots,
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and the idea of potentially moving on from Grenard, and
now you're you're bookending Andrew van Ginkel. I need to
know that he's completely healthy and all of that. And
then Dallas Turner, that's another concerning spot for me.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I'm I'm right there with you. I as much as
I think it's that blow me away. If they traded
Jonathan Grenard, it's crazy. I hope they find I mean,
it's it's basically, isn't it. This is the.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Premises he wants he wants to raise, right. I think
that's like a market correction or something.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
To know that, you know, I had not heard that either.
I'm not saying that that's not true. I mean that
I am that very much. Could be something that is going.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
To verify that, then maybe I don't want to pull
that out of the dark. That's okay, Timmany.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
There we go got a laugh after I said I
am second guessing that. I got a scowl on his face,
so I thought I was serious. And I call him
Timmany and show him my strawberry and everything's fine.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Yeah, yeah, that would be surprising that he would ask
for a market correction. But listen, I don't know if
I feel super comfortable with Dallas Turner and Van Gyinkle
being our only two outside rushers.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
And I'm sorry I chuckled there.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
This is the third social media post that I've seen
the last couple of days from Minneapolis St. Paul International Airport,
people saying Kyler Murray is by baggage, claiming to some
kid that's like four to ten. Oh, the rental car
bed a new one. Here's kids. Just I mean, he's
just frontlicking with joy. Tried to jump on that baggage.
(21:16):
The garrasel Caler Murray's arrived.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
So I had riged.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I'd originally seen it elsewhere, but Albert Breer did did
post a couple of days ago that he's seeking a
market correction to his contract.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Per sources. So I think you're lying. I think he
wants a little more cash. Well, we're just rolling in it,
so let's just give it. I want to give him
a raise. I want to find money for Jonathan Garnard.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Just cut Vangankle Turner and give Grenard all of their money.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
The thing is, the.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Thing is like I if I'm a player and I'm
an agent, yeah would Why wouldn't you ask?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I mean, yeah, you'd be catching the team at a
good time.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Okay, yeah, maybe you're not reading the room correctly, but
at least I would. I would at least ask like, hey, man,
like can we get this up? Like based on his
per and like they do all their research with the
agents and like hey this guy, here's here's this comp
in the league, Like can we get it up to here?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I could see them asking, but demanding would be a
different thing. And if they demand and then he doesn't
get it, then I could. I guess I'd understand, like, well, listen,
if you're if you're not going to pay him, then
trade him.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Just because we have an acting general manager. If you
around the league have heard of because he's been hiding
behind a desk as the capologist with a with miss
batis his assistant who's really good at what she does.
Doesn't mean he's some bow levil sitting on a stump
bragging to a dog in heat.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
You can just rip him off left and right.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
People see like acting general manager, let's call the Vikings.
See you we can give for Gernard, I know about
a fifth and two sevens next year. What do you think, oh, Ronnie.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Well, that's that's the thing about Brazinski is like he's
been around, correct, He's literally in all of.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
These meetings, any smarter than all of you? All of
is that what they did with the previous No, not us.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Them, Huy smarter than us too. And I'm saying everybody
in the league, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
He created the poison pill. He changed the complexion of
the NFL. Yeah, each snead, did you create the poison pill? No,
now you're about their busy winning rings. But nevertheless, Brazinski smart.
I just wonder people are trying to take advantage of
the situation because we have an acting GM.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Can you imagine the stories that he's gotten from agents,
just from like even lesser players asking.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
For more money.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
I'm like, I'm sure if that if that's true what
Aberbreers is reporting that that he's asking for a market correction,
that is like so far down on the total pool
of like bizarre asks by players and agents.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
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Speaker 1 (23:44):
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Speaker 1 (24:11):
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Speaker 3 (24:15):
By thank you, Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Tyler Murray.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
If it's him, what will we like and what should
be concerned?
Speaker 5 (24:45):
What we'd like, obviously, is the athleticism, the ability to
create plays using his legs to get out of trouble,
although I have some stats to back that up that
maybe he does. He takes more sex than you would think.
I think he's accurate. I think that's a huge thing.
So when he does throw the ball, he can be accurate.
I think some of that is some of those accuracy
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numbers zero can be I think slightly jaded and in
a way where you're when you're on your secondary route
and you've broken the pocket and you've created more time,
then receivers tend to be more open because the scramble
coverage is very difficult. So I think some of those
on target numbers maybe a little bit skewed. I think
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here's the things that here's the things that concern me
up until the last two years. Really twenty twenty four,
when he hit his first his whole his full season.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
With Drew Patsen the offensive coordinator, it.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Really revitalized his development into not just being a shotgun quarterback.
I think over ninety percent of the time using shotgun
with Cliff Kingsbury and others, a really good point. He
went more under center, did a little bit more play action. Now,
is it at the same level as koc Not even close,
Like not even close. So like, yes, there's development there,
(26:02):
there's growth there to be more of an all around quarterback.
But he's still probably more comfortable out of shotgun. I
think that he doesn't get the ball down the field
as much as you think on a consistent basis. For sure,
there are shots again, secondary shots, Yeah, scramble coverage. You
give the little fingerwave to the guy going down the
field and like, nope, just hit it long. I'll throw
(26:24):
the ball down to you. I think within system he's
not a deep ball thrower, and I think that's a
little bit of a concern based on what Kaos wants
as well.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Same question, what you think will like and what some
concerns can be for quarterback Gino Smith.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Geno Smith, I think that he takes a lot of
risky throws. I think that his wealth of veteran leadership
and all that stuff locker room, I think that he
will he would win over the team very easily.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I think he'd be a likable guy to have. I
think that he makes.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
The interesting thing about him is some of the things
that we said about Sam Darnold, I think Geno Smith
has some of those traits as well, some of that
reputation of bad decision making. Why would you make that
throw in that situation and sort of look what happened
in a full off season in a season with KOC
and you know, sort of his twoeligit education. So I
(27:23):
think that could maybe be fixed and moved around.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Again.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I don't think that he gets the ball down the
field very very much. He actually takes a lot of
sacks now again, could be offensive line, could just be
like not seeing it.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Clearly.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Of the three guys that I've kind of looked at,
between Murray and Derek Carr and Gino Smith, he's got
the lowest lowest QB rating in the last five years
of those three quarterbacks, he's got the lowest air yards
of getting the ball down the field. So he's even
more of a dink and dunk than Kyler Murray. And
he takes I think, risky calculate, you know, calculator risk
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decisions that don't always go his way.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
So Anthony Richardson and that stuff that popped up, that's
a non player, right.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Well, I don't know if it's a non player.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
I just think that if you bring a guy like
Anthony Richardson and you're basically bringing in another version of
JJ McCarthy, So it's not solving the problem. It's just
basically bringing in another guy to elevate what you hope
is JJ McCarthy or Anthony Richardson in a true battle
mono a mono head to head competition and may the
best man win. These other guys I think you bring
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in and it's almost like, well, it's kind of a competition,
but basically, we're bringing this guy into be the stopgap
quarterback for this one season and we'll see what happens
and see how we feel about JJ going forward. But
you'd be kind of a one year rental with the
hope that maybe a Kyler Murray becomes your franchise guy,
I think, and Anthony Richardson comes in as just like, well,
you're here to compete and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
A Rodge.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
A Rodger is another guy that I think maybe doesn't
fit the system him as well. We clearly know that
he does not press the ball down the field. At
least that's that's what Arthur Smith was doing last year,
and it looks like they didn't want to get him hit.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
If that's the case, whether that's coming from Arthur Smith
and Mike Tomlin or if that's coming from Aaron Rodgers
saying like listen, I just at over forty years old,
I just can't be taking these hits anymore. And that
was intentional from the quarterback spot, or maybe that was
just the offensive system. I don't quite know, but it
certainly it kind of worked. I mean, I don't know
if it would work for our offense. Certainly he would
(29:35):
be brought in to be the starter one percent, you're
our guy for twenty twenty six, and then hopefully, hopefully
a guy like JJ would just kind of see how
the quarterback, the handling of being the franchise guy. How
it really looks like this is a guy that's put
every franchise he's been on on his shoulders. You know,
(29:55):
you may not like how he conducts himself in some
of the things that he says, but he knows how
to handle the pressure and he knows how to handle
all the internal mechanisms that take place of being a
franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Hopefully JJ would see that. I think that's a big benefit.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Jimmy Garoppolo another situation where I don't think he's anointed
as a starter.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Jimmy Garoppolo.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
He's had several opportunities to take over teams and he
just really hasn't. And I think there's something to that.
So would he excite me? Not necessarily. I think he'd
be a great backup if JJ ends up beating him out.
But again, another guy that I think that you could
see kind of how it's done and how it's done
the right way.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Internally.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Won't see you until potentially next week. Free agency begins Monday. Lastly,
any many free agents you hope they get like, oh boy,
I mean, because we're on a budget here. Despite some
cuts that could take place, But I'm like, like, I mean,
Juan Jennings was the first one that I identified. I
still like him a little more costly than I thought
(30:56):
it would be. I got some others that we're going
to share today, d or tomorrow. Cost effective. But what
about you any cost effective freebies your day? Well, I mean,
let's just kind of how about we do this. I
have a small list of players that are interesting to me.
I'm not necessarily going to single out just one beloved. Uh,
(31:16):
Jimmel Dean cornerback, Mike Hilton cornerback, Jalen Watson, who's.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Dean played for the Bucks and most recently the Bucks.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Yeah, obviously the Chiefs are probably gonna get rid of
Jalen Watson because of their whole situation. Uh, Kevin Byern
is not going to be on the table anymore at safety,
you know, Jimmy Ward from the Texans might be an
interesting guy. Uh, here's where it gets really interesting. Now
that we have all the defensive line issues. Da Kwan
Jones from the Hills, Tier Tart the Chargers, big Man
(31:44):
big Man, John Franklin Myers from the from the Obroncos,
I have a small list of running backs I'm not
going to get into those because I don't think they're
going to be free agent guys. Jacoby Myers, I think
we've talked about him because you've like Juwan Jennings. Jacoby
Myers from the Jags would be interesting.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
And then do you hate Juwan Jennings. No, not at all?
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Good nou And then Tyler Linda Linda Baum Center for
the Ravens, no chance.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I know, I A too expensive. I know, I get it.
He's the bomb. I know he's but.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
See then you get into like why are they letting
him go at age twenty six? It's like, why does
new coach guy the other of the floor, why doesn't
he want Kyler?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
You know?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
And see I wondered that yesterday. So then I went
and looked at Jacoby Brissette's game logs. Jacoby Brissette low
key was effective last year, was good.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Last year, he was good.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
So if I remember, if I remember, some of the
rumors coming out of Arizona last year was that they
didn't think Kyler was better.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Right, It's like he was. He was injured, he came back,
he was a healthy scratch, and that lost Cannon's number.
I'm glad you still have it.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Part of that was the system too, wasn't it. I
mean we talked about it during the season last year.
I mean it's the freaking Cardinals were They were not good,
but in some ways you mentioned it. With Petscene's offense,
it was almost as if Brissette could run it more
efficiently and effectively than Kyler could.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Yeah, and if that's if that's the case, if that's
how the Arizona Cardinals feel, then don't you think that
we have probably the same sort of red flags based
off of our offense.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I would think so.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Now, again, we'd have a lot of faith in what
our offensive coaches can do and what they can pull
out of people. But I do feel like with Kyler
you are sort of reinventing the wheel with him in
his skill set a little bit by put him in
a system that we run.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
You and my friend are the best, and we will
watch you on Channel five today between three and four
thirty Twin Cities Live.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Thank you for the time. Yeah, thank you, notre I'll
see tomorrow, see you tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
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Bee Versage in booth, analyst for the Minnesota Vikings KF
an Audio network, joins us, now, uh and he played
for legendary coach Lou Holtz. Had not coach Holtz died
yesterday at the age eighty nine. The analyst joins us, Now,
how how many years did you play for for Lou?
And and how good were your teams at Notre Dame?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
I played what for four seasons ninety to ninety three,
and we I mean during that time we had a
lot of success. For we had four January one Bowls.
I went to the Sugar I went to the Orange Bowls,
A freshman Sugar Bowls, A sophomore and then Cotton Bowl
twice as a senior.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
We finished second in ninety three.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Uh, and then I can't remember the next highest, but
we were we were in the top ten I think
all four years that we were there. And I mean,
I look at my recruiting class alone, having two guys
go into the National Football League Hall of Fame Bryant
Young and Jerome bettis just out of my recruiting class.
So it was a great time. It was a great
time to be there, and we won a lot of
(35:59):
football and and uh, you know, coach Holtz was was
the reason for a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
What Pete, what what are some facets or some traits
that made lou a coach who would last to coach
all over the place almost six hundred games.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
He's a guy, He's a guy. I think he's a
guy that did not care what you thought of him.
He just wanted to win and he was going to
do whatever. He's going to do whatever it took in
his mind to do that, whether it was unpopular, you know,
and there are there are certain there are certain people
(36:41):
out there who can do that, who can walk into
a building and not care what the people around him
think because they're so fixated and so focused on what
they want to do, they're not worried about what other
people think. They're not worried about you know, he wasn't
worried about what players thought of him. He didn't, he
wasn't worried about any of that. He had a standard
(37:05):
and something that he wanted to adhere to, and he did.
And it was a you know, it was very demanding.
He demanded perfection, he demanded excellence, He demanded all these things.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
And if you didn't if you didn't comply, if.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
You if you thought you could do things better your
own way, there was no room for you in the program.
So yeah, it was it was a very There was
never a moment to relax. And that pressure was that
pressure was there. It was there every single day, all day,
all the time. And I mean he was I mean,
(37:42):
I mean talk about stories. I remember, if you if
college fans remember back in ninety one, we had a
rough year, but then we ended up going to Sugar
Bowl and playing Florida, and there was a joke out
there about how you know what, you know, what's the
difference between Notre Dame and Cheerios and Cheerio Cheerio's bowling
and a bowl and all this and that and the
other thing, and so of course Lou didn't like any
(38:06):
of that. And we were down in New Orleans practicing
at Michael Stonebreakers Old High School, so it was a
Catholic high school in Talent.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
It's where we practiced.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
The last day in pads was a big day for
all of us because we'd all go out and party
that night because it was the last day hitting for
the entire season. So we were just looking through, looking
to get through this last day in pads and then
enjoy our evening. And it was We get to the
practice field and it's absolutely pouring rain. So we're waiting,
and we're waiting. We're all sitting in the gymnasium. Lou said,
all right, we're not going to practice here. Get on
(38:35):
the buses. So we get on the buses and we
go back on the Canal Street downtown in New Orleans
and we pull into this expos Center right like just
like we were in Indye, big concrete building whatever. So
we get off the buses and guys are starting to
take their pads off, and los like, who told you
guys to take your pads off, we're practicing. We practiced
(38:57):
in full pads. Wow, Thud just didn't tackle of the
ground inside on concrete for two hours three days before
the game against each other. Guys were having to line
up funny because the pillars, the concrete pillars were in
the way. But that was the mentality that we had,
and it was, you know, who's going to be afraid
of Florida when you're out there, you know, playing against
(39:18):
some of the best and beating the hell out of
each other on concrete in tennis shoes with full pads
to you know, three four days before the game.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
I mean, we it was. It was live every week.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
It was live on Thursday, We had a game on Saturday,
live goal line thursdays.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
I mean, it was. It was.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
It was intense, man, that's and it helped us win
quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
I think.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
So. Would the late low Halts be described discip disciplinarian maybe,
but sounds like he was a task master?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Is that accurate? Yeah, I mean disciplinarian it was.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Yeah, I mean the disciplinarian side of things is is
interesting here. You know, there were a lot of rules.
You know, we couldn't have earrings, and no hair below
the lip. And there were some rules like that, you know,
lo long hair of that kind of stuff, but he
was he enforced those rules. I mean, there were many
guys that were left behind on road trips because they
(40:19):
were late for a meeting during the week.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
You know, things like that.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
If you if you didn't if you didn't comply, you
never got on the field. So you had to take
care of a lot of different things, being on time,
being you know all those things, or else you'll you'll
never even get you would never even get a shot
to get on the field.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
And that was the demanding side.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Now before well before Pete played for the late Lou Haltz,
a Notre Dame. Holtz coached the Jets for a season
and he resigned with a game to go in the
nineteen seventy six season. Later, he said, quote God did
not put Lou Holtz on this earth to coach in
the in the pros end quote, so like and maybe
maybe you have more examples here other than Jimmy Johnson
(41:02):
from the Canes from Miami to Dallas. What why is
it so difficult for even the biggest name college coaches
to lead NFL teams to a bunch of wins.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I think it's you.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
I mean, I don't know if it's any different now,
but back then you won in college differently. I remember
a story of Lou Holtz when he was with the Jets, right,
and when Lou got there, it's a different you know,
these are professionals, these are grown men, and kind of
the college stuff doesn't work, the raw ras stuff doesn't work.
You know, the the you know all those things that
(41:40):
when you're eighteen to twenty two years old, those things resonate,
whereas when you're dealing with professionals, they don't. Of him
sitting in a film room in a meeting with with
the offense with Joe Namath, I mean, Joe Namath was
a quarterback with the Jets at the time, and he
was watching film with the group and he's got basking Joe.
He's like, Joe, what coverages this? You know what coverages this?
(42:02):
And finally name is like lean back and said, coach,
you know what flank coverage this is? Like it just
you know, his that way, that form, that intimidating, that
that bit just didn't resonate at that you know, at
that time. And I remember I think it was before
Red bought the team. Uh, Sid Hartman was walking around
all happy one day because he said, so and so
(42:23):
is gonna buy this team. I can't remember the guy's name,
but his you know, he wants to have lou Holtz
come in. And the prospect of playing for lou Holtz
again in the NFL. I was like, no, not gonna it.
Just it just wouldn't work because I had anything against him.
The way he goes about his business wouldn't work at
the NFL level. And I think that's the big I
think that's and there's a lot of stories about Jimmy
(42:44):
Johnson flying back from a game in Tokyo and taking
guys right out to the field and making them put
the pads on and cover kickoffs in full pads for
like an hour and a half right off the airplane
coming back. I mean he didn't mess around either, So
that that mentality, I it doesn't always resonate with the
professional guys.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Well, may God rest the soul of Lou Holtz to
the here and now for a couple before we say goodbye.
NFL free agency opens on Monday. We all know that
Kyler and Kirk both reportedly are going to be cut.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Now if Kyler Murray.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Is the starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings next year,
what will that be?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Like? Like, what do you know? Right now? This is cool?
Speaker 3 (43:26):
And then you're like kind of like, yeah, I've seen
him play a bunch of times, Like what do you think.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
What I remember about Kyler Murray Paul in the times
that we've seen him? Number One, he loves his tight ends, right,
he loves his tight ends. The other thing, too, is
is I can I read? And this has been a
while now, so but I remember him being a pretty
accurate passer, especially across the metal, being able to to
create or make some throws in tight coverages. So there
(43:55):
are some there are some good things about him. It's
the it's kind of the off field or the study.
Is he going to dedicate himself? You know, those are
the kinds of those those questions that you have to
have people in the right spots, in the right places
that would know for sure whether or not he's he's
going to be serious and and and devote himself to
(44:17):
what's going to be necessary to learn a new offense, uh,
and to play in a different type of a scheme. So, uh,
whether or not he's a good fit. I mean, that's
that's kind of the that's kind of the interesting part
between he and cousins. I mean, one guy, you know,
has the acumen and and and the study and the
whole thing. It's just is he can he still physically
(44:38):
do it. The other guy very physically gifted. It's just
a question whether or not, you know, he can handle it.
So it's like which one are you going to choose?
And uh, with the situation as it is, Uh, I
think financials have a lot to do with it because
you can only do so much.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Right now, Thanks, my brother, have a wonderful weekend and
I'll text you later today.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Okay, all right, sounds good to see Paul. See you.
But that's Ben Lever. I'll make that.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Pete Ursich, the analyst in Booth Analysts.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
For the KFA in Minnesota Vikings Audio Network, chatting about
his four year coach at Notre Dame and they had
good teams, went to ball games every year. God rest
the soul of Lou Holtz, who died yesterday at age
eighty nine. Back to the world of hockey around the
corner and Olivia King from youth hockey up joins nine
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