March 6, 2026 • 49 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
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Speaker 2 (00:49):
So how have you been, old friend? I've been great.
How have you been? Great to see you? Yeah, you too,
It's so great to see you. The hairs the hair
is looking good, is trim.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Thank you. You've got a little while less time I
saw you.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's so great to see you for the first time
since January twenty third year of our Lord, twenty twenty six. Oh,
how are the wife and kids? Everybody's doing great. Yeah,
kids are great. Wife's doing well. I mean she tells
me she's happy. I'm not sure if that's true or not,
but you know, we don't go past that first question. No,
thanks are great in the house. The kids are doing
really well. Everybody's happy and healthy. We're in basketball season
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and towards the end of Madden's high school career here
we're counting down Section final tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
So got a win or go home right on.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Are you vetting out how Gray Duck will play in Nashville?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Hmm, it'll do well. I don't know why why would
I need to bet that out? Well, it will do well.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
But I mean, I can't imagine that you would relocate
everything to Nashville and have this, have this venture you
created what is it close to a decade ago?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Now it's nine years, nine years.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
But what would do is we just we take the
same concept and we rename it something Tennessee and ooh yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, we get I don't know, we hear duck.
We can do something. It don't matter. You know movies
take the same concept down there and just expand, expand
and grow. Yeah, you know you know Howkinson and George
Kittle lived there. Yeah, and uh, maybe you can join
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their super special Monday Night Curling League, I mean team
if you happen to really cool, I finally get an
athlete in there. Yeah, I should join them. I should
do that. Yeah, it's it's I don't know when this happened.
Somewhere in the last two during the Olympics, Jared Allen
joined nine to Noon. We're talking about curling, because like
curling was on TV around the clock yep. And so
we're talking about this new venture as starting in April,
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and and he mentioned, you know, TJ. Howkinson and George
Kittle live here. They're really close friends. And before I
started thinking about, damn, we're gonna trade Hawkinson to San
Francisco for mac Jones, all right, before I stopped thinking
about that, uh started thinking about that, I thought, Wow,
holy cow, they're both in Nashville. So and they got
this curling league they play in on Monday nights. I
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mean that this it's like they're they're slowly rolled lean
out a red carpet's state by state ye thirteen Greenway,
And I asked, Jared Allen, you still talk to Greenway?
He mentioned some group chat or whatever, and it's like, yeah,
I get a feeling he might move to Nashville. And
he's like, yeah, I don't know about that, but I
understand what you're saying. Yeah, you know, you know, love
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love Minnesota for eving has given me. And the nice
part is as a as a snow goes away, I
just fall more in love with the state again. It's
just it's just the doldrums of January and February.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
You come to this thing.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Also, I can see grass. That's amazing. Just these last
couple of days. No dispensaries in Tennessee, so you won't
see grass there. There you go, another good point. Lake's
going to be open probably the next few weeks. Ooh,
where you go, water's moving.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
We're back at it. All right.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
We'll write this down just in case you're interested. Okay,
thirteen fifty eight page road. Thirteen fifty eight page road.
It's on the outskirts of Nashville. Amazing place on six acres,
has nine bathrooms. It's twenty two million dollars. Wait a second,
I mean I might have looked at this one before.
(04:02):
You made a lot of money, you saved a lot
of money. It's very important to you. I'm not gonna
say you're on the cheap side. I'll say you're on
the frugal side. That's the Greenway and me that's my
Grandpa Greenway. I put it in there, thirteen to fifty
eight page row. I'm going to I'm gonna go buy
this thing to Nashville. Twenty two million. I don't know
if bedrooms. I don't think I can afford that, but
we'll just figure it out. Madden's going to be so
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good in Lexington. She's gonna require two bedrooms, one to
store the trophy. I think I might just might just
have to take her money. Just buy this house you're
getting yet, I'm oh yeah, how about that? Is that
not you I'm in? I mean, everybody's oh nice. You
take an old world field. We had to redo some
we had do some recent We had to redo some
tapestries in this thing green in there, see for yeah,
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mansions like that with the Victorian feel for all those
looking at this thing blinds. You need these cool curtains
with like the window open in spring like the Yankees pinstripe.
But green, it's just terrible and the curtains are blowing me.
We can just oh gosh, g get rid of that
one too. Yeah, what do they do here? That's a mistake.
Now you need a great duck room, man alive, Man,
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those two rooms. I got a couple of different properties
I'll show you that are in this area that.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Are much better. So yeah, yeah, you gotta get a
lot less.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I stream Jack gray Way and spending twenty two million dollars.
You gotta have twenty million dollars. You have twenty million
dollars to spend. But yeah, pulled it up. You got
pay quarterback. Looking for one of those side houses and
they're called the secondary houses on the property.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, oh yeah, you're in.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, everybody needs lace for us to stay garden boy
pool boy whatever, what do you think we do?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
A shirt off? No, take your shirt off real quick
and me see twenty two thousand square feet? Is that
what it is? Who's going to clean that six bedroom?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, the cleaner he has now, he'll fly in in
weekly and then she'll bring a couple of cohortskud, This
sounds good. That's what you got pai quarter about these days?
I mean, what the salad cats over three hundred million dollars?
I mean, I need to go back one, just go
back and play for another couple of years. Well, speaking
of that unbelievable with Yeah, Greenway, who was a first
round draft pick by the Vikings and No. Six played
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through twenty sixteen, left on his own terms, which is cool.
We have an acting general manager who I think will
be the full time general manager wants the proverbial dust clears.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Of whom I love.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
But it might not even be the general manager name.
It may just maybe different, and they brought this guy,
this cat in named Matt Thomas, who I've never met,
but talking to George Peyton, general manager of the Broncos
at the Combine, and some other people around Thomas is
like a bunch of teams tried to get him out
of retirement the last year, year and a half, two years,
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and he decided that, Okay, I'll come out of retirement
relocate for a spell to Minnesota to like help with
the capologist part. So therefore, if this guy's rolling into
Brazinski's role now and Brazinski rolls into another role now,
I mean, if you hire somebody else, like, what do
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you do with briz Yeah, these guys in your chair
got to give him the job. I think, I think
the way it goes, I mean, I think I'm so
excited for this, this next, these next, you know, two
to three months, four months, whatever this is, we get
just to the draft less than that to see how
this takes shape with a guy like Brazinski looking at
from his perspective and using the personnel department, the scouting
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department that is out in the world that every day
on college campuses, looking at film, looking at kids, understanding
who they are and then relying on them, which every
GM does. But how much do you rely on your
own opinion over somebody else's who's pitching you a kid
that they love. And maybe Brazinski's perspective of that will
be different since he's coming and do this anew and
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fresh and different and seeing the game for thirty years.
He's been around it from a different perspective and coming
into a year where we have all sorts of cap
issues and financial stress. So how can we work that
thing out? It's gonna be really fun to see. I'm
so excited for our fan base because of the fact
that he's running this operation, and I think it's gonna
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be really good. What if he crushes the draft, I mean,
because it's what you mean. What if he's gonna be
the GM and we're gonna pay him but whatever, he
wants to get us to the super Bowl every year,
but x amount of the last x amount of years.
I don't know about you, man, but like it's been
hard to pigeonhole or figure out like who's picking whom
and why? So even like in free agency, so Grenard
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and Bang Ginkle splash splashy. But then you'll get people saying, well,
that wasn't quazy, that was Flores right, Well, I mean, okay,
then how come when things are terrible it's quazy. Yeah,
the GM, the GM needs to take credit for those
situations because you're using all the it's your decision. You
you pull the string, you make the decision, you write
the contract.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
But all those factors are fair. You're talking to Flores.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Is he fit the scheme? Howigen use him? Does the
money work? Like you're talking to these groups, you know,
it's not like there's a schism. It's on You're simply
saying who gets the who gets the credit, and who's
taking the blame. At the end of the day, the
GM's gonna faull should fall to the GM every time
ever tes he's the one making the final decision, taking
all the cards that are on the table and saying, yep,
that's the direction we're going. Final call. And in some
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cases it works and you get extensions. In some cases
it doesn't, then you get fired. But see that's why
they roll new money man in. So Brazinski's chair is
fall So what are you gonna do with briz if
he doesn't stay in the current role? Moving forward? That's
why I think it's fade to complete. But how how
how brilliant could this be by the organization when it
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comes to getting credit for things personnel wise that work
or getting slammed when things don't work. He doesn't have
to have the GM tag.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah. I always love that one. Yeah. I mean, we'll
have a GM to rip or to praise, but we
really do. Maybe it's the new model. They were creating
a new model, right and they tried that last time
with quasi.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Anyway, so go ahead.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Just like positionless basketball, we have positionless executives.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, and and that sort of worked.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
We had the triangle of power back in the day,
and then there's a schism and we all learned a
new word back in the back in the old days
and childrens. But I think what you bring, you bring
him in because you want to take with that load
off of Brazinski to support him and what he's doing,
because now you're trying to wear these two really big
hats and decisions and you have all this stuff coming
at you. Now all of a sudden, you're you're the
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lead on the player personnel department, in the scouting department.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
You're trying to put all this.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Stuff together for the draft from a new role, new perspective,
and then all of a sudden, like you know, what's
going to come down to is on draft day. I
think is most interesting is like he's been in that
room so many times and seeing things from different perspective.
Now you're the one making the call, along with maybe
you're head coach, along with your ownership. I mean, there's
a lot of factors that go into that thing. So
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it's going to be very interesting. Again, we have to
trust that within that building, those roles have been shaken
out and they know what's going to happen on game day.
On draft day, here's who's making the decision, and here's why,
and who's in those conversations.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well, I just I just wonder, you know, looking back, equasi,
because very few organizations I would assume the GM is
making a selection without the coach. I mean, yea, you know,
there's got to be in house responsibilities taken by the
head coach, by the defensive coordinator, by the people involved
that identified these individuals. I can work with that, I
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can make that work, and then it doesn't. There's culpability there.
But you know, I just wonder partly, you know, going
back to they spent what three hundred and forty some
million dollars on their roster a year ago most in
the NFL. Even if we had gone to the super Bowl,
or even if we had been a playoff team, if
McCarthy looked good, we were still going to be forty
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five million dollars over the cap. So just even take
like the drafts out of it, and again that collaboration
or however the heck it looked or worked in there,
we were always going to have to go, oh my god,
Brian o'neils last year of his deal, he's twenty three
on the cap, Dara Saw twenty two, Jonathan Grenard twenty two,
Hargrave twenty one. This was always going to be a
complete financial rats nest and a mass exodus. So even
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taking the draft out of it, part of me is thinking, yeah,
the general manager was let go because he made a
complete disastrous mess of this team financially that regardless of
last season's outcome there we're gonna be the mass exodus
that we're seeing now.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I think the one caveat to that is then where
does the owers fall on the financial decisions? Because at
the end of the day, when you talk about Brazinski,
that's the role that you know, at least as an
outsider who doesn't understand the day to day what he does.
He's in that position to help manage this thing to
get to the right spot. So clearly it's gm down
making the decision. We're going this direction, rob make it work,
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and you try to make it work, and now you
get your cap in a tough situation. You're gonna buy
Now it's about fix it time. And a lot of
this stuff is done just because you look at you
know where the Bears are saying, well, when you got
a young quarterback who's really good, you're not spending fifty
sixty million dollars a year in a quarterback. It allows
you to make these decisions. In free agency that's just different.
And we're in that position. But we went and spent
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the money. These other directions didn't necessarily work out. Now
we're going to find that new direction. This is a
turning point in the organization with a really good roster,
and this is in an overhaul. But there's gotta be
some hard decisions.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
To be made.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Let me set this up with some qualifiers. Okay, these
are feelings hurt a Voiden's qualifiers. This is in no
way to say Quasia Dolpho Mensa was not this person.
This is in no way to say Ryan Grigson at
tall others with the program are not this person.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
All right, here we go three two.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So the face of the franchise, I guess you could
say is Justin Jefferson. But Kevin O'Connell is also a
major major piece in this equation, and you know, Rob
every bit as well, if not better than me Rezien scheme.
If there's anybody who at any time, because O'Connell is
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extremely well respected former Coach of the Year, has one
dramatically more than he's lost.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
We all know all the stories.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Got to win a playoff game, whole thing to who
much is given, much as expected, whole thing. But nobody,
including Andy Read, Bill Belichick, Vince Lombardi or Tom Landry
have made every decision the right way. Okay, So if
there's anybody in that building who has the ability, in friendly,
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friendly fire or friendship like fashion to say, kayo, let's chat.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
About this real quick.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
You know why, why what do you think and go
back and forth in non confrontational fashion like dogs a
man's best friend. It's this guy Brazinski, and I think
that matters. Yeah, it does matter. And his personality and
because he's been here for so many different coaches and
so many different now owners as well, is you have
you have this perspective of the long the long play
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of I've done this and seen this and have all
these relationships and connections, and that matters because KOs is
looking at Rob Zenski to say, I can trust this
guy and we can work together. And I think every matters.
That trust is going to be And I don't think
he's overmatched. I don't yet, Yeah right, No, I mean,
and I think the perspective he brings from the CAP
side is going to be be unique in to say of, hey,
this really hurts us or this really helps us. Here's
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why you know, although you like player X, Y or Z,
here's a position that puts us in now in three years,
et cetera. That to me, it's about his professionalism, he's
been to work with guys, his personality.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
That is the number one reason why this will work.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I've been I've been excited to ask you this question
for about a month because I've asked Pete and I've
asked Ben, you're the You're the only one of the
trifecta not to uh not to have faced the fire
of this question. Oh boy, did Brazienski ever squeeze you
on deals while you were here?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I always love the Lord unbelievable? Did he ever squeezing you?
Did he ever?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
You remember the day I came in here when he
asked me to squeeze out some cash and that I
was making too much money?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Want me to take a pay cut? Thank you all?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
When our boys Zimmer came in. Now, you're gonna get
me all fired up. I just want to earn brace
squeezed you. Uh. And he does it in a way
where he loves you. He loves you, but he's gonna
squeeze you because he's just got to do it. And
you know that came a decision where the coach comes
in and says, hey, do I need do we need
to pay this to this guy? Because what are we
getting from him? I'm not I'm not saying Zimmer's twenty fifteen.
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I'm not saying Zimmer said that. I just don't know
any other way it could have went down. Yeah, And
and I love I love playing for code Zimmer. But
he came in, he said, hey, this is my team.
Here's where the money's gonna go. I'm not sure the personnel,
not sure if Chad's gonna fit into the system. Can
he make changes? And I had to, you know, you say, hey,
you know what, I'll better myself. I'll take the pay cut.
And I got all the I got all I got,
scooped all the chips.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Eventually he took me extra year.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
You got squeezed, and but I ended up getting, you know,
the biggest win there was to be able to retire
of Viking Play eleven years and and and still get
the chips they owed me in my eleventh year.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
So I got those dollars back.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
So what you're saying is you got over on Brazinski
when he thought he was squeezing. Now he definitely got
the win. And I mean, you can't he can't take that.
He's the best, he's the best. And the versation and
I sat down with him at the combine for a
twenty five minute interview and like when I started, I
just started laughing. Yeah, I'm like, why am I laughing?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Because I've known you twenty seven years. You're the bomb.
You're great to private, you can be trusted. You're not
a back talker, you're not a bleep talker, which is
rare in this day and age. And you're the type
that can be talked to about professional and personal stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
And the heart. You can just feel the heart.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And I'm like, all of that's between Pete and I
and I'm like, damn, yeah, So you got to like
the GM role here, man, this is cool.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah. I think he's not.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
You know, he's coming from from a professional standpoint of
I'm not trying to climb to something else. I want
to be here. I'm you know, we'll call it content.
I'm happy to be here. I want this organization to win.
I'm all in. I'm not looking for like this is
if I do well, I can go get this job
or if I do well, I can go get that
job or get this these dollars. Like, it's not about
that great, it's about doing really good in this role
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because I love this organization, team in city and stay
in the fan base, and I think that that matters
a lot. But he's he's also which we haven't said,
he's extremely smart, and but he can articulate that and
he can use that, and I think that's the most
important part. And then he's calm, calm, He's been there,
done that, he knows everybody's trusted.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, I love it, love it, love it. What if?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
What if Razinski and staff nailed the draft and like
thren Whin, they nailed the draft when they nailed the draft,
and the players help immediately and they win markedly more
than last year. And he rolls into Matt Thomas's office
looking for a rais and he gets squeezed. I always
say I would love you money. Guys squeezes, I can't.
I hope I get invited to that meeting just to
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squeeze him. Liebert didn't get squeezed. Leebert, accordingly, look at him,
got everything you wanted. Guys that look like that get
whatever they want all the time. Lee cout check Greenway,
check Greenway. Courtesy of Gray Duck. Vodkun spirits from the
rumor mill. If and then you know these are reliable
people tweeting this and reporting on him. If Alan and
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Hargrave indeed are released, then I'm guessing they feel certain
that the Vikings would feel certain they can get what
they want in the d or And this is weird
to say, because everybody's like searching for the best new
three technique, Like the three techniques and defensive tackles have
kind of become the new quarterback in free agency in
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the draft.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
However, with the.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Way the Minnesota Vikings run defense is de emphasizing the
defensive line due to the way Flores calls a game
and and and the reason I say that is because
some Nordo and I talked about it yesterday. Somebody tweeted,
I have no idea who this Marcelo was or whatever
his name was. Like, if you're a defensive tackle in
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a like defensive tackles defensive linemen, they don't flourish or
it's not super important in a Brian Flores defense. Javon
Hargrave retweeted the tweet. I'm like, damn, is that really him?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So you know, on his way out, you know, he
kind of offered up a shot there saying, Hey, you're
right with what you're saying. So, like, de emphasize defensive
line even though you got Jalen Redmond and stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, I think when you look at that, you look
at our season, and you might be able to say
that from a pass perspective, a pass rush perspective. Because
you're bringing pressure, guys aren't able to go four across
and pin their ears back and go get a rush.
You're trying to get creative. You're trying to send a safe,
You're trying to send them back. You're dropping defensive linemen
in the coverage. Then we check those run stop at
stats and the fact that that gutted our season this year.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Good point.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
It gutted our season from a standpoint. If we couldn't
stop the run, we can't beat Atlantic. Because we can't
stop the run, we can't win certain games that we
had to have. Looking back a game away from the playoffs,
you go get two of those back because we can
stop the run game and tell me it doesn't matter
to have defensive line right and because you're not putting
up the splashy, I'm going to get fourteen to fifteen sacks.
There's there's multiple ways to play defensive line and be
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really good at it. Check you know, check the Williams
wall right, check these really good into your defensive lineman,
check the Lynn ball. Hungary like our ability to stop
the run and make quarterbacks beat us in a certain
direction in a league now that is now emphasizing the
run game more so than it's been emphasizing twenty plus years.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Good point.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
We better get that thing short up because if we don't,
we have a problem. And to me, that's where defensive
line is at priority. Now, what was that defensive line
I want to do? He wants to get sacks because
guess what, that's where the dollars come and so and
that's where that big free agent contract go. Get doble
digit sacks a couple years in a row. Boom, you'll
get a thirty million piece. I mean, it's the way
it goes these days. So I understand where hard gets
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coming from from the retweet of hey, yes, I want
to get I want to get more. But reality is
are personnel we have to worry about. Can we stop people? Yeah,
and last year we didn't do it enough. Later in
the year, of course we got a going, but we
can't have that gap in the middle. Let me close
with this with JJ McCarthy is what's what's low key
frustrating me. Through all of the loud free agent quarterback
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noise I and others are hearing and enduring because free
agency officially begins Monday. Is I and others have stopped
focusing on McCarthy and an expected plan to help that
investment grow, mature, improve. Brazinski told Pete and I at
the combine he feels some of the criticism of McCarthy
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is too harsh and unfair. So, I mean, like JJ
McCarthy's name is just completely lost in this whole equation. Yeah,
and I think you have to remember that this kid
is a rookie in games played still to this point,
he's a rookie like middle of his rookie season towards
you know, three quarters the way through. So you have
to give him that, and you have to be able
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to be patient enough to understand that. Now it's about
how do you bring him to that next phase of
his career. Who do you bring in to help along
with that? That's not going to either threaten right or
say hey, you're going to sit because we can get
this guy for a year, you're gonna watch. I don't
know what that conversation is, like, I'm not sure what
the competition is gonna be, Like, I'm not sure what
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the direction we're going to go, but we need a
plan and go after the guy who gets us that
plan to work. Yeah, don't give up on this when
the guy's in the middle of his rookie year. And
I think that's one thing is span You got to
be patient, You got to focus on the actual. You know,
we want something so bad, but the reality is is
these other quarterbacks are sitting and waiting and going out
and playing, or they have a really good rookie year
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and they have a sophomore slump. Or Phone Nix comes
and has an okay rookie year and come back to
second year really strong, like it hasn't been just show up.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Just ball. Yeah, and gotta get more time. Great seeing you,
see you.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
We're just seeing you Friday after Friday after Friday after Friday.
Best of luck with the with the basketball game. Thank you,
God bless you.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
And we did talk. We did talk high school hockey
one time. Who do you like and why?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I mean, I mean, I'm just I don't I'm not
a hockey guy, basketball guy. But this thing we have
here is so special and the meek and uh, I'm
looking at the double A. You got Tnka rose Mount,
But then you got more heady, Dina in the final Force,
you got more heady Dina Tanka, three of the blue Bloods.
Of the blue Bloods left very excited to see what's
(23:55):
gonna happen in the double A. And uh yeah, and
you know, I'm kind of a you know our farms
in Dell know, some kind of a Delano fan. They're
in the semifinals in the other class A. So I'm
all fired up.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I love it. We can't wait to watch.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, so of course you'll go to Grand Casino Arena
and watch all of that. That is the same ball.
I think you don't cut you across the river. I've
got basketball. I I got basketball. Tonight, go Wildcats as
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Some hardcore football.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Sat down and chatted this morning with football and more mortality.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Peter King.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I had nine questions in front of me to hit
Peter with, and his answers were so thoughtful in vain
opening that we broke this bad boy up into two segments.
And with this one, I asked him about the NFL
getting together with gambling sites, and I asked him, is
(25:23):
it a non starter for you, PK? Or does it
bother you?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Bothers me tremendously. You know, it was eight years ago
that Roger Goodell spoke about gambling like it was like
it was COVID, you know, like it was the scourge
of professional sports. And now they invite it into the
(25:48):
living room and have it sit at the dining room
table with him, and they're willing partner with all these
gambling companies. Look, the NFL is a best of greed, period.
There's no way anybody can convince me of anything otherwise.
And so the NFL will say that, well, you know, look,
(26:12):
you know, gambling now is legal in whatever thirty nine states,
I don't know how many it is, So you know,
we are going to go into business with a lot
of these gambling companies. I get it, but to me,
there's so many examples when you watch games on Sunday
of the NFL selling its soul to these companies, and
(26:34):
I just I don't like it. And I just think
in a few years we're going to see it hundreds, hundreds, thousands,
maybe even hundreds of thousands of lives ruined by sports gambling.
And I think it's I think it's wrong, and I
think the NFL could and should have a conscience about it.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Peter King a very pointed commentary on gambling in the
NA Thank you for that. Are there other facets of
the current NFL, Peter, that trouble you?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I mean, I think the biggest one is the NFL
trying to go to an eighteenth game. You know, the
NFL will pat itself on the back over and over,
time after time, day after day, we are doing so
much for health and safety. Well, if you're doing so
much for health and safety. In twenty twenty one, you
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asked all of your best players to play six percent
more snaps, so, in other words, a six percent more
of a chance for a guy to get a serious injury.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
And now you.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Want to add an eighteenth game, Okay, that's going to
add six percent more so, in other words, over the
last five years, if they add whenever they add the
eighteenth game, it's a freight train rolling down the tracks.
It's almost certainly going to happen. If they do that,
That'll mean that in the span of a couple of years,
a game that is already incredibly injurious is going to
(28:08):
get twelve percent is going to subject its players to
twelve percent more risk of getting injured. That bothers me
a lot. It's like nothing is enough. After they get eighteen.
I will guarantee you that someone in the NFL is
going to start playting the seeds. We ought to play
twenty games. I mean, Paul, it's you know, you see
(28:31):
this game. You see guys get carted off week after
week after week. You see guys getting CTE in this game,
you know, and dying young and all this, And I look,
I think football is a great game, but I think
at some point someone has to stand up and say
(28:52):
enough is enough. We need to appreciate the game as
it is right now and stop trying to continually, you know,
instead of saying, hey, we make twenty five billion, now,
let's set a goal to make thirty five in the
next ten years. Yeah, can the NFL do it? Probably right?
But but what's at what cost? I just I mean, look,
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somebody in the players union has to stand up and
say we are not going to do it, and they
have to campaign for it. A big star has to
stand up and say we are not going to accept
the playing of an eighteenth game. And if it means
that you're going to lock us out or do whatever,
go ahead and do it. See how long that does anyway? Whatever?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
All right, So, so just a couple more here, PK
Peter King nine to now, so off what you just
said about about you know, take it to squeezing everything
out of the metaphorical turnip that you can get the
NFL going international. I remember, I love that, Okay, we
love that it continues to expand. I mean we now
(29:59):
have games in Madri in Australia coming up this year.
But see, I remember my first experience calling a Vikings
game in England was at Wembley when Everson Griffin toppled
Big Ben and sacked Ben Roethlisberger to win the game.
And I talked to you after that game right when
we got back, and you were loving the NFL going international.
(30:22):
In fact, the first regular season game was in two
thousand and five in Mexico City. So this international flavor
does it make forty years of the game?
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Your book? It does.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I would have liked to have written more on it,
but I wrote I went to the first two Germany games.
I went to see Brady against the Seahawks in twenty two,
and I went to see Mahomes against Miami in twenty three.
And I love it because, Paul, I'm telling you, when
you go over there and you see how many people
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in these countries absolutely love the NFL. I can't speak
for Madrid. I hear it's pretty tepid there. But there
are countries England, Ireland, Germany. Germany is nuts for the NFL.
Why wouldn't you want to develop that? I mean, you know,
quite honestly. Pete Carroll after that game against the Patriot
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the Bucks in twenty two, he said that, and they
had a nine hour flight to the game. He said,
I hope they schedule us here next year. I mean
the teams. I think the teams will complain about the
logistics and the length of the flight and all that stuff,
but most teams, I think most teams really enjoy the experience,
(31:43):
and I know that, you know, you can do things
about the bye being after this game. You can do things.
You can arrange it so that it isn't going to
be really terrible for the bodies. Now, let's see what
happens in Australia. The only thing I would say about Australia,
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and yes, it's a fifteen hour flight, that's that's awful,
I get it. But the one thing for the Rams
and the Niners, but I would just say one thing
about that, they're going to probably play that game on Wednesday. Okay,
nobody plays in training camp. So in other words, those
two teams are probably going to go to Australia five
(32:29):
or six days before the game. Yep, they're going to
practice over there. They're going to play this game. They're
going to come back. They'll get back to the West
Coast and let's say Friday morning, Okay, they'll have Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
and maybe Tuesday off and then they'll prepare for the
next game. I just don't think that that is the
(32:50):
incredible hardship that some people will make it out to be.
It's like when the Friday Night game happened in Brazil
and Green Bay and Kansas City had eight hour flights
after the game. Yeah, it's a long flight, it's borderline whatever, tortures,
whatever the right word is.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
But it's bad.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
But you also get in Saturday, Saturday morning, Saturday noon,
and you have Sunday, Monday, Tuesday plus half a Saturday off.
So I don't think the travel should be the reason
why anybody gets down on it. Plus it allows for
people who love football that nine to thirty Sunday morning
(33:31):
window on the East Coast, eight thirty in the Twin
Cities to have an extra game. If you don't want
to watch it, if you're going to church or doing whatever,
you don't watch it, you wouldn't Most of those games
wouldn't be national games anyway.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
They just be.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Part of the noon one pm package, you know, on
either Fox or CBS.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
All right, last one here, and thank you very much
for the extended time. Peter Peter King at Peter Underscore
King via X. Lastly, the book is called The Game.
It's going to come out in October. We'll have Peter
back on the nine to noon show close to the
book release. But if you like these stories, and or
shall I say if you love these stories, and nine
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of the best in the history of the NFL is unprecedented.
(34:39):
And that's not a hyperbolic statement. I mean there are
age old journalists who would say the same thing. What
are some keys to earning that trust, Peter and sustaining
it for multiple decades?
Speaker 4 (34:55):
I mean the biggest key for me was working for
Sports Illustrated. Look in nineteen eighty nine when I went
to SI. I remember in ninety or ninety one, I
walked into the Cowboys locker room on a Friday afternoon
and Michael Irvin yelled, Hey, we're in a Sports Illustrated
game this week, and you know, so that was a
(35:18):
big deal, okay in those days, and that was the
good fortune. Covering a game for Sports Illustrated was bigger
than if anybody from ESPN other than probably Chris Berman
showed up, and he didn't cover games really, but so
that is that was a huge factor because if you could,
(35:41):
you know, Dion Sanders, why did I get close to
Deon Sanders Because he knew I could put him on
the cover of Sports Illustrate, not me, but you know
I could do stories that would land him on the
cover of Sports Illustrated. And so you know that's why.
I think that's that's the number one one reason, the
fact that Sports Illustrated allowed it. But I think the
(36:05):
next reason was even when Sports Illustrated's importance and significance
started to diminish, let's say, you know, two thousand and eight, ten, twelve, whatever,
I think I had the kind of relationships with people,
veteran people in the game. You might look at, well, geez,
what about how do you get in a room with
(36:28):
Andy Reid for fifteen minutes alone after a Super Bowl
in twenty two and twenty three? And I will say, well,
I spent a week with the Green Bay Packers documenting
a week in the Life of a football team in
nineteen ninety five, and Andy Reid was a tight ends coach,
(36:50):
and we talked. I didn't know who he was. I mean,
I knew who he was, but I didn't had never
met him and he started talking about Wow, I always
kind of wanted to do that job, wanted to be
doctor Z. When I went to Brigham Young, I wrote
a column for the School of Paper, and that's what
he really wanted to do. So in other words, over
the years, Andy Reid would make time for me because
(37:12):
he loved talking to SI. And even after that ended,
he would he'd make time. And so that's really Paul.
I am the beneficiary of an awful lot of good fortune.
Plus I was just one of those guys who not
that I wouldn't take no for an answer. I've taken
no for an answer a lot of times, but I've always.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Asked the question, k N d N How good was that?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
An e xt loved it. He's football immortality. Nick Folino
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We mentioned it earlier in the show.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
It's a NHL trade deadline today I think until two
pm Central Time. And the Wild last night they added
a right shot depth defenceman by the name of Jeff Peatrees,
thirty eight years old, long career, most recently with the
Florida Panthers. So that was last night, and then this
morning Bobby Brink Minnetonka's and somebody on the text line
(38:39):
said he may have grown up in Bimidgie as well.
I know it's Minnesota though. For Bobby Brink won a
title with the Minnetonka Skippers. He's twenty four years old,
and he was most recently with the Philadelphia Flyers, as
he is now a member of the Minnesota Wild.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
So you have Bobby Brink in the mix, and.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Now this one's fresh hot off the press looking for
more intel on. I don't know what the Wild gave
up to get him, but we have a family reunion
here in Minnesota, specifically Saint Paul as Nick Follino. Yeah,
whether it was long time with the Blue Jackets, I
think he was an Ottawa He's played nearly thirteen hundred
games in his career. The elder Fellino, of course, Marcus's
(39:20):
older brother, Nick Fillino, coming from the Blackhawks to Saint Paul.
That courtesy of Russo Radio. That's just within the last
two or three minutes. So Minnesota Wild fans again, leading
up to the trade deadline at two pm, you're just
doom scrolling and just mashing on that refreshed button on
your timeline. Gimme SDAMNCS, gimme Trocheck, gimme x y Z player. Well,
(39:43):
how about Nick Fillino, Nick Fillino, thirty eight years old,
now a member of the Minnesota Wild.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
It seems fair to say those in the Trocheck covenant
hoping valsant Trocheck, who was a healthy scratch roster management
scratch by the as last night, will come here.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I just really don't see any way that'll happen.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Now with all these deals now at Russo Hockey via
x Elite follow all the time, but specifically today, as
n Ordo just said, he tweeted an hour ago, Wild
acquire winger Bobby Brink send prospect David Yuricek to the Flyers. Yeah,
but right above that, Eric Johnson, Saint Louis Park native.
(40:30):
I believe I spent nearly twenty years in the NHL.
He's an analyst for I think ESPN now.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
But missus former Colorado Avalanche Arick Johnson.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Okay, yeah for sure. Eric Johnson tweeted, great move by
the wild. I played with Bobby Brink and he's underrated.
Defensive game has improved a ton can trust him on
both ends of the rink. Great kid. Then Russo comes back.
I know a lot was made when John Tortorella scratched
(41:02):
Bobby Brink in Minnesota a few years ago where he's from.
But from what I gathered, Torts loved Brink and felt
he became a true pro and that Garren Slash Kelleher
talked to Tortorella a lot about Brink at the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Not like I know, Tortorella, doesn't that sound like a
Torts move?
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Bobby Brink excited to play at what was the Excel
Energy Center at hometown him State, and Torts is like,
you're in the press box tonight.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Well, it reminds me of when Kurt Rambus coached the
Minnesota Timberwolves and their first round pick was Kevin Love
and everybody was at the season opener to see Kevin
Love against the Sacramento Kings, and for whatever the reason,
Rambus didn't start him like why, I mean, holy cow,
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Russo at Russo Hockey also tweets Brink is hustling to
Las Vegas and the anticipation is he'll make his Minnesota
Wild debut tonight against the Golden Knights. That one's on
KFA N with O'Donnell, Budsy and di Alec Staylock. Then
there's this Perusso to repost a tweet from somebody named
(42:21):
Dom with about one hundred thousand followers. I think he
covers hockey on a national level for the athletic. For
him to repost this indicates that he's a deep believer.
And the repost from this Dom with the Athletic love
this trade for Minnesota. Bobby Brink is a sneaky good
(42:41):
ad that fits their ever present defensive identity. Not a
eur a check believer, writes Dom. Yeah, and then he
has some ear at check. Bobby Brink comps. But this
elite hockey mind writing sneaky good ad that fits their
ever present defensive identity plays into what you discussed two
(43:02):
days ago. And I brought up in the opening segment
yesterday with the Lapanta Chat, where I really really enjoyed
Anthony dissecting the victory over the Tampa Bay Lightning, which
by the way, lost again last night and the team's
completely reeling, and he talked about the defensive identity of
this team and winning in the postseason. Now you get
(43:25):
a lead hockey mind, saying Brink, Bobby Brink, I got
all his albums, good ad fitting the defensive identity. I mean,
Billy G's playing fast right now, man, holy cow.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Well, so we would call ourselves the Love Covenant, and
for years the program that follows us, the Grum, they
would call themselves the tough Love Covenant.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
The reason I bring that up, we're the.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Friday Football Feast three to six thirty, the Football Beast exactly.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
But Brandon Muleski, producer, Common Man program, you mentioned sneaky,
good ad and all of these things.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Let's get pumped up for Bobby Brink here. Tennebee is
an elite hockey mind.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
But he did right, bought your a check for a first, second, third,
and fourth and sold him for a third line winger.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Okay, yuck, all right? That was from ten about an
hour ago. Okay, Well, I mean he and.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Others can choose to dwell, and if they want to,
that's great because clearly it did not work out for
the haul that was given. As we discussed a little
while ago, there are one of two ways to look
at it. You can either move for something that you
are absolutely dead set to make work. Okay, and this
(44:43):
doesn't look great and it seems to be getting worse,
but damn it, I can't be wrong and I can't
face this public shrudiny or scrutiny from mister Leopold, the owner.
So we're gonna make this work or you can recognize
I struck out. Yeah, and it's time to get out
and move on. So yeah, I mean that's with respect
this low hanging fruit right there. So the trade deadline
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is it?
Speaker 4 (45:05):
Two?
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Also, Russo, you mentioned some of his posts on x
He noted that it was Future Considerations that the Wild
sent to Chicago, and he put in parentheses aka nothing.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
So this is actually I mean, you effectively got Nick
Felino for free. So we still have just over three hours,
three hours and thirty seconds for Bill Garran to continue
making moves if he is so apt to do so,
and then the trade deadline will be complete and the
wild roster, for the most.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Part, we went complete.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
When I say, or I've said before, Michael Russo is
the pre eminent beat writer for any sport. And really
he is the most detailed, bulldog ish, hard working beat
writer that I've ever come across in my life. And
that goes all the way back to when I wrote
for the Pasadena Star News eighty nine to ninety three.
(45:59):
And this is another example why it's Russo tweeted forty
minutes ago. I mean, look at the depths of this now,
John Rablushki, It's Robleski was the coach of the Olympic team.
Yeah the ladies, right, yes, okay, yeah, that's right. Okay,
So Russo tweets. Not that they'll necessarily play together, but
(46:23):
John Rabluski told me Bobby Brink and Matt Boldy had
quote unreal chemistry and to quote at the twenty nineteen
under eighteen's and he'll quote thrive under Heinze end to quote,
I mean it's twenty nineteen to twenty twenty six, so okay,
(46:48):
but I mean still to have that in your back
pocket to drop on a day like this, I'm giving
you Covenant class Man because that's his next level right there.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
He just never stops, and so I mean, you might
as well just do it then, shouldn't you. Pa, You
got capris Off, Hartman and Zookie are your top line,
second line, Eric Sinek, Matt Boldie and Minnetaka's finest break.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
On the two line.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Then you get the krem line back together with year Off,
Trennon and Tarasenko.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Do you think Bartley thought we meant eleven Am Pacific.
I think he's an actor, so he might still be
on Los Angeles time.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
So I did text.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
I did text the Hollywood superstar that is Adam Bartley.
He's here actually, so yeah, just within the last two minutes,
let's pause and let's bring in mister Bartley and get
his thoughts on a Bobby Brink to the Minnesota whild.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Now news do nord thirteen minutes long. For those who
just tuned in NHL Trade deadline day, your wild has
been active. Just give us a quick little recap from
Petrie dishing it to whomever.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Yeah, to Felina Feleno, that one's free. Oh Donnie, you
could have that one for free. Budsy O.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Remember Kyler the Creator. Yes, that's what I call him.
That's what I call him when we play the cards.
He's Kyler the Creator. And you're gonna have to dust
that off starting on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
I have seen so many videos by the way of
people like on social media. Hey, Kyler's welcome to Minnesota.
And it's just some kid walking.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Unbelievable s Kyler Murray outside of Valley Fair today. They
show this three foot kid looking through a chain link fence.
The bumper cars had a bumper car. Bit that's not open. Oh,
let Kyler ride.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Come on, guys, Depth Defenseman Elder Statesman Jeff Peatree. That
was last evening, I believe coming from the Panthers. He's
going to join the team in Vegas. And then Bobby Brink,
the twenty four year old Minnesotan from the Flyers. He's
here in exchange for your a check. And then Nick Folino,
Marcus's older brother, is now joining the Wild from Chicago
for quote unquote future considerations, i e. A little freebie
(49:02):
in a chance for Felino to taste the postseason again.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
That's news Den Art. Excellent work.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Adam Bartley Minnesota, Vikings fan and Minnesota and I'm also
big time actor. Adam Bartley joins nine to Noon in
Studio to chat about a bunch of things around the corner.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
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Speaker 2 (00:49):
So how have you been, old friend? I've been great.
How have you been? Great to see you? Yeah, you too,
It's so great to see you. The hairs the hair
is looking good, is trim.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Thank you. You've got a little while less time I
saw you.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's so great to see you for the first time
since January twenty third year of our Lord, twenty twenty six. Oh,
how are the wife and kids? Everybody's doing great. Yeah,
kids are great. Wife's doing well. I mean she tells
me she's happy. I'm not sure if that's true or not,
but you know, we don't go past that first question. No,
thanks are great in the house. The kids are doing
really well. Everybody's happy and healthy. We're in basketball season
(01:22):
and towards the end of Madden's high school career here
we're counting down Section final tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
So got a win or go home right on.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Are you vetting out how Gray Duck will play in Nashville?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Hmm, it'll do well. I don't know why why would
I need to bet that out? Well, it will do well.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
But I mean, I can't imagine that you would relocate
everything to Nashville and have this, have this venture you
created what is it close to a decade ago?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Now it's nine years, nine years.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
But what would do is we just we take the
same concept and we rename it something Tennessee and ooh yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, we get I don't know, we hear duck.
We can do something. It don't matter. You know movies
take the same concept down there and just expand, expand
and grow. Yeah, you know you know Howkinson and George
Kittle lived there. Yeah, and uh, maybe you can join
(02:11):
their super special Monday Night Curling League, I mean team
if you happen to really cool, I finally get an
athlete in there. Yeah, I should join them. I should
do that. Yeah, it's it's I don't know when this happened.
Somewhere in the last two during the Olympics, Jared Allen
joined nine to Noon. We're talking about curling, because like
curling was on TV around the clock yep. And so
we're talking about this new venture as starting in April,
(02:33):
and and he mentioned, you know, TJ. Howkinson and George
Kittle live here. They're really close friends. And before I
started thinking about, damn, we're gonna trade Hawkinson to San
Francisco for mac Jones, all right, before I stopped thinking
about that, uh started thinking about that, I thought, Wow,
holy cow, they're both in Nashville. So and they got
this curling league they play in on Monday nights. I
(02:56):
mean that this it's like they're they're slowly rolled lean
out a red carpet's state by state ye thirteen Greenway,
And I asked, Jared Allen, you still talk to Greenway?
He mentioned some group chat or whatever, and it's like, yeah,
I get a feeling he might move to Nashville. And
he's like, yeah, I don't know about that, but I
understand what you're saying. Yeah, you know, you know, love
(03:18):
love Minnesota for eving has given me. And the nice
part is as a as a snow goes away, I
just fall more in love with the state again. It's
just it's just the doldrums of January and February.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
You come to this thing.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Also, I can see grass. That's amazing. Just these last
couple of days. No dispensaries in Tennessee, so you won't
see grass there. There you go, another good point. Lake's
going to be open probably the next few weeks. Ooh,
where you go, water's moving.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
We're back at it. All right.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
We'll write this down just in case you're interested. Okay,
thirteen fifty eight page road. Thirteen fifty eight page road.
It's on the outskirts of Nashville. Amazing place on six acres,
has nine bathrooms. It's twenty two million dollars. Wait a second,
I mean I might have looked at this one before.
(04:02):
You made a lot of money, you saved a lot
of money. It's very important to you. I'm not gonna
say you're on the cheap side. I'll say you're on
the frugal side. That's the Greenway and me that's my
Grandpa Greenway. I put it in there, thirteen to fifty
eight page row. I'm going to I'm gonna go buy
this thing to Nashville. Twenty two million. I don't know
if bedrooms. I don't think I can afford that, but
we'll just figure it out. Madden's going to be so
(04:23):
good in Lexington. She's gonna require two bedrooms, one to
store the trophy. I think I might just might just
have to take her money. Just buy this house you're
getting yet, I'm oh yeah, how about that? Is that
not you I'm in? I mean, everybody's oh nice. You
take an old world field. We had to redo some
we had do some recent We had to redo some
tapestries in this thing green in there, see for yeah,
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mansions like that with the Victorian feel for all those
looking at this thing blinds. You need these cool curtains
with like the window open in spring like the Yankees pinstripe.
But green, it's just terrible and the curtains are blowing me.
We can just oh gosh, g get rid of that
one too. Yeah, what do they do here? That's a mistake.
Now you need a great duck room, man alive, Man,
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those two rooms. I got a couple of different properties
I'll show you that are in this area that.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Are much better. So yeah, yeah, you gotta get a
lot less.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I stream Jack gray Way and spending twenty two million dollars.
You gotta have twenty million dollars. You have twenty million
dollars to spend. But yeah, pulled it up. You got
pay quarterback. Looking for one of those side houses and
they're called the secondary houses on the property.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, oh yeah, you're in.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, everybody needs lace for us to stay garden boy
pool boy whatever, what do you think we do?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
A shirt off? No, take your shirt off real quick
and me see twenty two thousand square feet? Is that
what it is? Who's going to clean that six bedroom?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, the cleaner he has now, he'll fly in in
weekly and then she'll bring a couple of cohortskud, This
sounds good. That's what you got pai quarter about these days?
I mean, what the salad cats over three hundred million dollars?
I mean, I need to go back one, just go
back and play for another couple of years. Well, speaking
of that unbelievable with Yeah, Greenway, who was a first
round draft pick by the Vikings and No. Six played
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through twenty sixteen, left on his own terms, which is cool.
We have an acting general manager who I think will
be the full time general manager wants the proverbial dust clears.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Of whom I love.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
But it might not even be the general manager name.
It may just maybe different, and they brought this guy,
this cat in named Matt Thomas, who I've never met,
but talking to George Peyton, general manager of the Broncos
at the Combine, and some other people around Thomas is
like a bunch of teams tried to get him out
of retirement the last year, year and a half, two years,
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and he decided that, Okay, I'll come out of retirement
relocate for a spell to Minnesota to like help with
the capologist part. So therefore, if this guy's rolling into
Brazinski's role now and Brazinski rolls into another role now,
I mean, if you hire somebody else, like, what do
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you do with briz Yeah, these guys in your chair
got to give him the job. I think, I think
the way it goes, I mean, I think I'm so
excited for this, this next, these next, you know, two
to three months, four months, whatever this is, we get
just to the draft less than that to see how
this takes shape with a guy like Brazinski looking at
from his perspective and using the personnel department, the scouting
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department that is out in the world that every day
on college campuses, looking at film, looking at kids, understanding
who they are and then relying on them, which every
GM does. But how much do you rely on your
own opinion over somebody else's who's pitching you a kid
that they love. And maybe Brazinski's perspective of that will
be different since he's coming and do this anew and
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fresh and different and seeing the game for thirty years.
He's been around it from a different perspective and coming
into a year where we have all sorts of cap
issues and financial stress. So how can we work that
thing out? It's gonna be really fun to see. I'm
so excited for our fan base because of the fact
that he's running this operation, and I think it's gonna
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be really good. What if he crushes the draft, I mean,
because it's what you mean. What if he's gonna be
the GM and we're gonna pay him but whatever, he
wants to get us to the super Bowl every year,
but x amount of the last x amount of years.
I don't know about you, man, but like it's been
hard to pigeonhole or figure out like who's picking whom
and why? So even like in free agency, so Grenard
(08:17):
and Bang Ginkle splash splashy. But then you'll get people saying, well,
that wasn't quazy, that was Flores right, Well, I mean, okay,
then how come when things are terrible it's quazy. Yeah,
the GM, the GM needs to take credit for those
situations because you're using all the it's your decision. You
you pull the string, you make the decision, you write
the contract.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
But all those factors are fair. You're talking to Flores.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Is he fit the scheme? Howigen use him? Does the
money work? Like you're talking to these groups, you know,
it's not like there's a schism. It's on You're simply
saying who gets the who gets the credit, and who's
taking the blame. At the end of the day, the
GM's gonna faull should fall to the GM every time
ever tes he's the one making the final decision, taking
all the cards that are on the table and saying, yep,
that's the direction we're going. Final call. And in some
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cases it works and you get extensions. In some cases
it doesn't, then you get fired. But see that's why
they roll new money man in. So Brazinski's chair is
fall So what are you gonna do with briz if
he doesn't stay in the current role? Moving forward? That's
why I think it's fade to complete. But how how
how brilliant could this be by the organization when it
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comes to getting credit for things personnel wise that work
or getting slammed when things don't work. He doesn't have
to have the GM tag.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah. I always love that one. Yeah. I mean, we'll
have a GM to rip or to praise, but we
really do. Maybe it's the new model. They were creating
a new model, right and they tried that last time
with quasi.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Anyway, so go ahead.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Just like positionless basketball, we have positionless executives.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, and and that sort of worked.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
We had the triangle of power back in the day,
and then there's a schism and we all learned a
new word back in the back in the old days
and childrens. But I think what you bring, you bring
him in because you want to take with that load
off of Brazinski to support him and what he's doing,
because now you're trying to wear these two really big
hats and decisions and you have all this stuff coming
at you. Now all of a sudden, you're you're the
(10:09):
lead on the player personnel department, in the scouting department.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
You're trying to put all this.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Stuff together for the draft from a new role, new perspective,
and then all of a sudden, like you know, what's
going to come down to is on draft day. I
think is most interesting is like he's been in that
room so many times and seeing things from different perspective.
Now you're the one making the call, along with maybe
you're head coach, along with your ownership. I mean, there's
a lot of factors that go into that thing. So
(10:35):
it's going to be very interesting. Again, we have to
trust that within that building, those roles have been shaken
out and they know what's going to happen on game day.
On draft day, here's who's making the decision, and here's why,
and who's in those conversations.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well, I just I just wonder, you know, looking back, equasi,
because very few organizations I would assume the GM is
making a selection without the coach. I mean, yea, you know,
there's got to be in house responsibilities taken by the
head coach, by the defensive coordinator, by the people involved
that identified these individuals. I can work with that, I
(11:10):
can make that work, and then it doesn't. There's culpability there.
But you know, I just wonder partly, you know, going
back to they spent what three hundred and forty some
million dollars on their roster a year ago most in
the NFL. Even if we had gone to the super Bowl,
or even if we had been a playoff team, if
McCarthy looked good, we were still going to be forty
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five million dollars over the cap. So just even take
like the drafts out of it, and again that collaboration
or however the heck it looked or worked in there,
we were always going to have to go, oh my god,
Brian o'neils last year of his deal, he's twenty three
on the cap, Dara Saw twenty two, Jonathan Grenard twenty two,
Hargrave twenty one. This was always going to be a
complete financial rats nest and a mass exodus. So even
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taking the draft out of it, part of me is thinking, yeah,
the general manager was let go because he made a
complete disastrous mess of this team financially that regardless of
last season's outcome there we're gonna be the mass exodus
that we're seeing now.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I think the one caveat to that is then where
does the owers fall on the financial decisions? Because at
the end of the day, when you talk about Brazinski,
that's the role that you know, at least as an
outsider who doesn't understand the day to day what he does.
He's in that position to help manage this thing to
get to the right spot. So clearly it's gm down
making the decision. We're going this direction, rob make it work,
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and you try to make it work, and now you
get your cap in a tough situation. You're gonna buy
Now it's about fix it time. And a lot of
this stuff is done just because you look at you
know where the Bears are saying, well, when you got
a young quarterback who's really good, you're not spending fifty
sixty million dollars a year in a quarterback. It allows
you to make these decisions. In free agency that's just different.
And we're in that position. But we went and spent
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the money. These other directions didn't necessarily work out. Now
we're going to find that new direction. This is a
turning point in the organization with a really good roster,
and this is in an overhaul. But there's gotta be
some hard decisions.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
To be made.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Let me set this up with some qualifiers. Okay, these
are feelings hurt a Voiden's qualifiers. This is in no
way to say Quasia Dolpho Mensa was not this person.
This is in no way to say Ryan Grigson at
tall others with the program are not this person.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
All right, here we go three two.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So the face of the franchise, I guess you could
say is Justin Jefferson. But Kevin O'Connell is also a
major major piece in this equation, and you know, Rob
every bit as well, if not better than me Rezien scheme.
If there's anybody who at any time, because O'Connell is
(13:46):
extremely well respected former Coach of the Year, has one
dramatically more than he's lost.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
We all know all the stories.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Got to win a playoff game, whole thing to who
much is given, much as expected, whole thing. But nobody,
including Andy Read, Bill Belichick, Vince Lombardi or Tom Landry
have made every decision the right way. Okay, So if
there's anybody in that building who has the ability, in friendly,
(14:13):
friendly fire or friendship like fashion to say, kayo, let's chat.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
About this real quick.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
You know why, why what do you think and go
back and forth in non confrontational fashion like dogs a
man's best friend. It's this guy Brazinski, and I think
that matters. Yeah, it does matter. And his personality and
because he's been here for so many different coaches and
so many different now owners as well, is you have
you have this perspective of the long the long play
(14:42):
of I've done this and seen this and have all
these relationships and connections, and that matters because KOs is
looking at Rob Zenski to say, I can trust this
guy and we can work together. And I think every matters.
That trust is going to be And I don't think
he's overmatched. I don't yet, Yeah right, No, I mean,
and I think the perspective he brings from the CAP
side is going to be be unique in to say of, hey,
this really hurts us or this really helps us. Here's
(15:04):
why you know, although you like player X, Y or Z,
here's a position that puts us in now in three years,
et cetera. That to me, it's about his professionalism, he's
been to work with guys, his personality.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
That is the number one reason why this will work.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I've been I've been excited to ask you this question
for about a month because I've asked Pete and I've
asked Ben, you're the You're the only one of the
trifecta not to uh not to have faced the fire
of this question. Oh boy, did Brazienski ever squeeze you
on deals while you were here?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I always love the Lord unbelievable? Did he ever squeezing you?
Did he ever?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
You remember the day I came in here when he
asked me to squeeze out some cash and that I
was making too much money?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Want me to take a pay cut? Thank you all?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
When our boys Zimmer came in. Now, you're gonna get
me all fired up. I just want to earn brace
squeezed you. Uh. And he does it in a way
where he loves you. He loves you, but he's gonna
squeeze you because he's just got to do it. And
you know that came a decision where the coach comes
in and says, hey, do I need do we need
to pay this to this guy? Because what are we
getting from him? I'm not I'm not saying Zimmer's twenty fifteen.
(16:06):
I'm not saying Zimmer said that. I just don't know
any other way it could have went down. Yeah, And
and I love I love playing for code Zimmer. But
he came in, he said, hey, this is my team.
Here's where the money's gonna go. I'm not sure the personnel,
not sure if Chad's gonna fit into the system. Can
he make changes? And I had to, you know, you say, hey,
you know what, I'll better myself. I'll take the pay cut.
And I got all the I got all I got,
scooped all the chips.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Eventually he took me extra year.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
You got squeezed, and but I ended up getting, you know,
the biggest win there was to be able to retire
of Viking Play eleven years and and and still get
the chips they owed me in my eleventh year.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
So I got those dollars back.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
So what you're saying is you got over on Brazinski
when he thought he was squeezing. Now he definitely got
the win. And I mean, you can't he can't take that.
He's the best, he's the best. And the versation and
I sat down with him at the combine for a
twenty five minute interview and like when I started, I
just started laughing. Yeah, I'm like, why am I laughing?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Because I've known you twenty seven years. You're the bomb.
You're great to private, you can be trusted. You're not
a back talker, you're not a bleep talker, which is
rare in this day and age. And you're the type
that can be talked to about professional and personal stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
And the heart. You can just feel the heart.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And I'm like, all of that's between Pete and I
and I'm like, damn, yeah, So you got to like
the GM role here, man, this is cool.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah. I think he's not.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
You know, he's coming from from a professional standpoint of
I'm not trying to climb to something else. I want
to be here. I'm you know, we'll call it content.
I'm happy to be here. I want this organization to win.
I'm all in. I'm not looking for like this is
if I do well, I can go get this job
or if I do well, I can go get that
job or get this these dollars. Like, it's not about
that great, it's about doing really good in this role
(17:43):
because I love this organization, team in city and stay
in the fan base, and I think that that matters
a lot. But he's he's also which we haven't said,
he's extremely smart, and but he can articulate that and
he can use that, and I think that's the most
important part. And then he's calm, calm, He's been there,
done that, he knows everybody's trusted.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, I love it, love it, love it. What if?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
What if Razinski and staff nailed the draft and like
thren Whin, they nailed the draft when they nailed the draft,
and the players help immediately and they win markedly more
than last year. And he rolls into Matt Thomas's office
looking for a rais and he gets squeezed. I always
say I would love you money. Guys squeezes, I can't.
I hope I get invited to that meeting just to
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squeeze him. Liebert didn't get squeezed. Leebert, accordingly, look at him,
got everything you wanted. Guys that look like that get
whatever they want all the time. Lee cout check Greenway,
check Greenway. Courtesy of Gray Duck. Vodkun spirits from the
rumor mill. If and then you know these are reliable
people tweeting this and reporting on him. If Alan and
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Hargrave indeed are released, then I'm guessing they feel certain
that the Vikings would feel certain they can get what
they want in the d or And this is weird
to say, because everybody's like searching for the best new
three technique, Like the three techniques and defensive tackles have
kind of become the new quarterback in free agency in
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the draft.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
However, with the.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Way the Minnesota Vikings run defense is de emphasizing the
defensive line due to the way Flores calls a game
and and and the reason I say that is because
some Nordo and I talked about it yesterday. Somebody tweeted,
I have no idea who this Marcelo was or whatever
his name was. Like, if you're a defensive tackle in
(19:35):
a like defensive tackles defensive linemen, they don't flourish or
it's not super important in a Brian Flores defense. Javon
Hargrave retweeted the tweet. I'm like, damn, is that really him?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So you know, on his way out, you know, he
kind of offered up a shot there saying, Hey, you're
right with what you're saying. So, like, de emphasize defensive
line even though you got Jalen Redmond and stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, I think when you look at that, you look
at our season, and you might be able to say
that from a pass perspective, a pass rush perspective. Because
you're bringing pressure, guys aren't able to go four across
and pin their ears back and go get a rush.
You're trying to get creative. You're trying to send a safe,
You're trying to send them back. You're dropping defensive linemen
in the coverage. Then we check those run stop at
stats and the fact that that gutted our season this year.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Good point.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
It gutted our season from a standpoint. If we couldn't
stop the run, we can't beat Atlantic. Because we can't
stop the run, we can't win certain games that we
had to have. Looking back a game away from the playoffs,
you go get two of those back because we can
stop the run game and tell me it doesn't matter
to have defensive line right and because you're not putting
up the splashy, I'm going to get fourteen to fifteen sacks.
There's there's multiple ways to play defensive line and be
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really good at it. Check you know, check the Williams
wall right, check these really good into your defensive lineman,
check the Lynn ball. Hungary like our ability to stop
the run and make quarterbacks beat us in a certain
direction in a league now that is now emphasizing the
run game more so than it's been emphasizing twenty plus years.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Good point.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
We better get that thing short up because if we don't,
we have a problem. And to me, that's where defensive
line is at priority. Now, what was that defensive line
I want to do? He wants to get sacks because
guess what, that's where the dollars come and so and
that's where that big free agent contract go. Get doble
digit sacks a couple years in a row. Boom, you'll
get a thirty million piece. I mean, it's the way
it goes these days. So I understand where hard gets
(21:24):
coming from from the retweet of hey, yes, I want
to get I want to get more. But reality is
are personnel we have to worry about. Can we stop people? Yeah,
and last year we didn't do it enough. Later in
the year, of course we got a going, but we
can't have that gap in the middle. Let me close
with this with JJ McCarthy is what's what's low key
frustrating me. Through all of the loud free agent quarterback
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noise I and others are hearing and enduring because free
agency officially begins Monday. Is I and others have stopped
focusing on McCarthy and an expected plan to help that
investment grow, mature, improve. Brazinski told Pete and I at
the combine he feels some of the criticism of McCarthy
(22:08):
is too harsh and unfair. So, I mean, like JJ
McCarthy's name is just completely lost in this whole equation. Yeah,
and I think you have to remember that this kid
is a rookie in games played still to this point,
he's a rookie like middle of his rookie season towards
you know, three quarters the way through. So you have
to give him that, and you have to be able
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to be patient enough to understand that. Now it's about
how do you bring him to that next phase of
his career. Who do you bring in to help along
with that? That's not going to either threaten right or
say hey, you're going to sit because we can get
this guy for a year, you're gonna watch. I don't
know what that conversation is, like, I'm not sure what
the competition is gonna be, Like, I'm not sure what
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the direction we're going to go, but we need a
plan and go after the guy who gets us that
plan to work. Yeah, don't give up on this when
the guy's in the middle of his rookie year. And
I think that's one thing is span You got to
be patient, You got to focus on the actual. You know,
we want something so bad, but the reality is is
these other quarterbacks are sitting and waiting and going out
and playing, or they have a really good rookie year
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and they have a sophomore slump. Or Phone Nix comes
and has an okay rookie year and come back to
second year really strong, like it hasn't been just show up.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Just ball. Yeah, and gotta get more time. Great seeing you,
see you.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
We're just seeing you Friday after Friday after Friday after Friday.
Best of luck with the with the basketball game. Thank you,
God bless you.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
And we did talk. We did talk high school hockey
one time. Who do you like and why?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I mean, I mean, I'm just I don't I'm not
a hockey guy, basketball guy. But this thing we have
here is so special and the meek and uh, I'm
looking at the double A. You got Tnka rose Mount,
But then you got more heady, Dina in the final Force,
you got more heady Dina Tanka, three of the blue Bloods.
Of the blue Bloods left very excited to see what's
(23:55):
gonna happen in the double A. And uh yeah, and
you know, I'm kind of a you know our farms
in Dell know, some kind of a Delano fan. They're
in the semifinals in the other class A. So I'm
all fired up.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I love it. We can't wait to watch.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, so of course you'll go to Grand Casino Arena
and watch all of that. That is the same ball.
I think you don't cut you across the river. I've
got basketball. I I got basketball. Tonight, go Wildcats as
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Speaker 2 (24:57):
Sat down and chatted this morning with football and more mortality.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Peter King.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I had nine questions in front of me to hit
Peter with, and his answers were so thoughtful in vain
opening that we broke this bad boy up into two segments.
And with this one, I asked him about the NFL
getting together with gambling sites, and I asked him, is
(25:23):
it a non starter for you, PK? Or does it
bother you?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Bothers me tremendously. You know, it was eight years ago
that Roger Goodell spoke about gambling like it was like
it was COVID, you know, like it was the scourge
of professional sports. And now they invite it into the
(25:48):
living room and have it sit at the dining room
table with him, and they're willing partner with all these
gambling companies. Look, the NFL is a best of greed, period.
There's no way anybody can convince me of anything otherwise.
And so the NFL will say that, well, you know, look,
(26:12):
you know, gambling now is legal in whatever thirty nine states,
I don't know how many it is, So you know,
we are going to go into business with a lot
of these gambling companies. I get it, but to me,
there's so many examples when you watch games on Sunday
of the NFL selling its soul to these companies, and
(26:34):
I just I don't like it. And I just think
in a few years we're going to see it hundreds, hundreds, thousands,
maybe even hundreds of thousands of lives ruined by sports gambling.
And I think it's I think it's wrong, and I
think the NFL could and should have a conscience about it.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Peter King a very pointed commentary on gambling in the
NA Thank you for that. Are there other facets of
the current NFL, Peter, that trouble you?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I mean, I think the biggest one is the NFL
trying to go to an eighteenth game. You know, the
NFL will pat itself on the back over and over,
time after time, day after day, we are doing so
much for health and safety. Well, if you're doing so
much for health and safety. In twenty twenty one, you
(27:29):
asked all of your best players to play six percent
more snaps, so, in other words, a six percent more
of a chance for a guy to get a serious injury.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
And now you.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Want to add an eighteenth game, Okay, that's going to
add six percent more so, in other words, over the
last five years, if they add whenever they add the
eighteenth game, it's a freight train rolling down the tracks.
It's almost certainly going to happen. If they do that,
That'll mean that in the span of a couple of years,
a game that is already incredibly injurious is going to
(28:08):
get twelve percent is going to subject its players to
twelve percent more risk of getting injured. That bothers me
a lot. It's like nothing is enough. After they get eighteen.
I will guarantee you that someone in the NFL is
going to start playting the seeds. We ought to play
twenty games. I mean, Paul, it's you know, you see
(28:31):
this game. You see guys get carted off week after
week after week. You see guys getting CTE in this game,
you know, and dying young and all this, And I look,
I think football is a great game, but I think
at some point someone has to stand up and say
(28:52):
enough is enough. We need to appreciate the game as
it is right now and stop trying to continually, you know,
instead of saying, hey, we make twenty five billion, now,
let's set a goal to make thirty five in the
next ten years. Yeah, can the NFL do it? Probably right?
But but what's at what cost? I just I mean, look,
(29:18):
somebody in the players union has to stand up and
say we are not going to do it, and they
have to campaign for it. A big star has to
stand up and say we are not going to accept
the playing of an eighteenth game. And if it means
that you're going to lock us out or do whatever,
go ahead and do it. See how long that does anyway? Whatever?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
All right, So, so just a couple more here, PK
Peter King nine to now, so off what you just
said about about you know, take it to squeezing everything
out of the metaphorical turnip that you can get the
NFL going international. I remember, I love that, Okay, we
love that it continues to expand. I mean we now
(29:59):
have games in Madri in Australia coming up this year.
But see, I remember my first experience calling a Vikings
game in England was at Wembley when Everson Griffin toppled
Big Ben and sacked Ben Roethlisberger to win the game.
And I talked to you after that game right when
we got back, and you were loving the NFL going international.
(30:22):
In fact, the first regular season game was in two
thousand and five in Mexico City. So this international flavor
does it make forty years of the game?
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Your book? It does.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I would have liked to have written more on it,
but I wrote I went to the first two Germany games.
I went to see Brady against the Seahawks in twenty two,
and I went to see Mahomes against Miami in twenty three.
And I love it because, Paul, I'm telling you, when
you go over there and you see how many people
(30:55):
in these countries absolutely love the NFL. I can't speak
for Madrid. I hear it's pretty tepid there. But there
are countries England, Ireland, Germany. Germany is nuts for the NFL.
Why wouldn't you want to develop that? I mean, you know,
quite honestly. Pete Carroll after that game against the Patriot
(31:18):
the Bucks in twenty two, he said that, and they
had a nine hour flight to the game. He said,
I hope they schedule us here next year. I mean
the teams. I think the teams will complain about the
logistics and the length of the flight and all that stuff,
but most teams, I think most teams really enjoy the experience,
(31:43):
and I know that, you know, you can do things
about the bye being after this game. You can do things.
You can arrange it so that it isn't going to
be really terrible for the bodies. Now, let's see what
happens in Australia. The only thing I would say about Australia,
(32:06):
and yes, it's a fifteen hour flight, that's that's awful,
I get it. But the one thing for the Rams
and the Niners, but I would just say one thing
about that, they're going to probably play that game on Wednesday. Okay,
nobody plays in training camp. So in other words, those
two teams are probably going to go to Australia five
(32:29):
or six days before the game. Yep, they're going to
practice over there. They're going to play this game. They're
going to come back. They'll get back to the West
Coast and let's say Friday morning, Okay, they'll have Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
and maybe Tuesday off and then they'll prepare for the
next game. I just don't think that that is the
(32:50):
incredible hardship that some people will make it out to be.
It's like when the Friday Night game happened in Brazil
and Green Bay and Kansas City had eight hour flights
after the game. Yeah, it's a long flight, it's borderline whatever, tortures,
whatever the right word is.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
But it's bad.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
But you also get in Saturday, Saturday morning, Saturday noon,
and you have Sunday, Monday, Tuesday plus half a Saturday off.
So I don't think the travel should be the reason
why anybody gets down on it. Plus it allows for
people who love football that nine to thirty Sunday morning
(33:31):
window on the East Coast, eight thirty in the Twin
Cities to have an extra game. If you don't want
to watch it, if you're going to church or doing whatever,
you don't watch it, you wouldn't Most of those games
wouldn't be national games anyway.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
They just be.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Part of the noon one pm package, you know, on
either Fox or CBS.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
All right, last one here, and thank you very much
for the extended time. Peter Peter King at Peter Underscore
King via X. Lastly, the book is called The Game.
It's going to come out in October. We'll have Peter
back on the nine to noon show close to the
book release. But if you like these stories, and or
shall I say if you love these stories, and nine
(34:16):
to noon yours truly, and Nordo and to a lot
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of the best in the history of the NFL is unprecedented.
(34:39):
And that's not a hyperbolic statement. I mean there are
age old journalists who would say the same thing. What
are some keys to earning that trust, Peter and sustaining
it for multiple decades?
Speaker 4 (34:55):
I mean the biggest key for me was working for
Sports Illustrated. Look in nineteen eighty nine when I went
to SI. I remember in ninety or ninety one, I
walked into the Cowboys locker room on a Friday afternoon
and Michael Irvin yelled, Hey, we're in a Sports Illustrated
game this week, and you know, so that was a
(35:18):
big deal, okay in those days, and that was the
good fortune. Covering a game for Sports Illustrated was bigger
than if anybody from ESPN other than probably Chris Berman
showed up, and he didn't cover games really, but so
that is that was a huge factor because if you could,
(35:41):
you know, Dion Sanders, why did I get close to
Deon Sanders Because he knew I could put him on
the cover of Sports Illustrate, not me, but you know
I could do stories that would land him on the
cover of Sports Illustrated. And so you know that's why.
I think that's that's the number one one reason, the
fact that Sports Illustrated allowed it. But I think the
(36:05):
next reason was even when Sports Illustrated's importance and significance
started to diminish, let's say, you know, two thousand and eight, ten, twelve, whatever,
I think I had the kind of relationships with people,
veteran people in the game. You might look at, well, geez,
what about how do you get in a room with
(36:28):
Andy Reid for fifteen minutes alone after a Super Bowl
in twenty two and twenty three? And I will say, well,
I spent a week with the Green Bay Packers documenting
a week in the Life of a football team in
nineteen ninety five, and Andy Reid was a tight ends coach,
(36:50):
and we talked. I didn't know who he was. I mean,
I knew who he was, but I didn't had never
met him and he started talking about Wow, I always
kind of wanted to do that job, wanted to be
doctor Z. When I went to Brigham Young, I wrote
a column for the School of Paper, and that's what
he really wanted to do. So in other words, over
the years, Andy Reid would make time for me because
(37:12):
he loved talking to SI. And even after that ended,
he would he'd make time. And so that's really Paul.
I am the beneficiary of an awful lot of good fortune.
Plus I was just one of those guys who not
that I wouldn't take no for an answer. I've taken
no for an answer a lot of times, but I've always.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Asked the question, k N d N How good was that?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
An e xt loved it. He's football immortality. Nick Folino
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We mentioned it earlier in the show.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
It's a NHL trade deadline today I think until two
pm Central Time. And the Wild last night they added
a right shot depth defenceman by the name of Jeff Peatrees,
thirty eight years old, long career, most recently with the
Florida Panthers. So that was last night, and then this
morning Bobby Brink Minnetonka's and somebody on the text line
(38:39):
said he may have grown up in Bimidgie as well.
I know it's Minnesota though. For Bobby Brink won a
title with the Minnetonka Skippers. He's twenty four years old,
and he was most recently with the Philadelphia Flyers, as
he is now a member of the Minnesota Wild.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
So you have Bobby Brink in the mix, and.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Now this one's fresh hot off the press looking for
more intel on. I don't know what the Wild gave
up to get him, but we have a family reunion
here in Minnesota, specifically Saint Paul as Nick Follino. Yeah,
whether it was long time with the Blue Jackets, I
think he was an Ottawa He's played nearly thirteen hundred
games in his career. The elder Fellino, of course, Marcus's
(39:20):
older brother, Nick Fillino, coming from the Blackhawks to Saint Paul.
That courtesy of Russo Radio. That's just within the last
two or three minutes. So Minnesota Wild fans again, leading
up to the trade deadline at two pm, you're just
doom scrolling and just mashing on that refreshed button on
your timeline. Gimme SDAMNCS, gimme Trocheck, gimme x y Z player. Well,
(39:43):
how about Nick Fillino, Nick Fillino, thirty eight years old,
now a member of the Minnesota Wild.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
It seems fair to say those in the Trocheck covenant
hoping valsant Trocheck, who was a healthy scratch roster management
scratch by the as last night, will come here.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I just really don't see any way that'll happen.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Now with all these deals now at Russo Hockey via
x Elite follow all the time, but specifically today, as
n Ordo just said, he tweeted an hour ago, Wild
acquire winger Bobby Brink send prospect David Yuricek to the Flyers. Yeah,
but right above that, Eric Johnson, Saint Louis Park native.
(40:30):
I believe I spent nearly twenty years in the NHL.
He's an analyst for I think ESPN now.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
But missus former Colorado Avalanche Arick Johnson.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Okay, yeah for sure. Eric Johnson tweeted, great move by
the wild. I played with Bobby Brink and he's underrated.
Defensive game has improved a ton can trust him on
both ends of the rink. Great kid. Then Russo comes back.
I know a lot was made when John Tortorella scratched
(41:02):
Bobby Brink in Minnesota a few years ago where he's from.
But from what I gathered, Torts loved Brink and felt
he became a true pro and that Garren Slash Kelleher
talked to Tortorella a lot about Brink at the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Not like I know, Tortorella, doesn't that sound like a
Torts move?
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Bobby Brink excited to play at what was the Excel
Energy Center at hometown him State, and Torts is like,
you're in the press box tonight.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Well, it reminds me of when Kurt Rambus coached the
Minnesota Timberwolves and their first round pick was Kevin Love
and everybody was at the season opener to see Kevin
Love against the Sacramento Kings, and for whatever the reason,
Rambus didn't start him like why, I mean, holy cow,
(41:55):
Russo at Russo Hockey also tweets Brink is hustling to
Las Vegas and the anticipation is he'll make his Minnesota
Wild debut tonight against the Golden Knights. That one's on
KFA N with O'Donnell, Budsy and di Alec Staylock. Then
there's this Perusso to repost a tweet from somebody named
(42:21):
Dom with about one hundred thousand followers. I think he
covers hockey on a national level for the athletic. For
him to repost this indicates that he's a deep believer.
And the repost from this Dom with the Athletic love
this trade for Minnesota. Bobby Brink is a sneaky good
(42:41):
ad that fits their ever present defensive identity. Not a
eur a check believer, writes Dom. Yeah, and then he
has some ear at check. Bobby Brink comps. But this
elite hockey mind writing sneaky good ad that fits their
ever present defensive identity plays into what you discussed two
(43:02):
days ago. And I brought up in the opening segment
yesterday with the Lapanta Chat, where I really really enjoyed
Anthony dissecting the victory over the Tampa Bay Lightning, which
by the way, lost again last night and the team's
completely reeling, and he talked about the defensive identity of
this team and winning in the postseason. Now you get
(43:25):
a lead hockey mind, saying Brink, Bobby Brink, I got
all his albums, good ad fitting the defensive identity. I mean,
Billy G's playing fast right now, man, holy cow.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Well, so we would call ourselves the Love Covenant, and
for years the program that follows us, the Grum, they
would call themselves the tough Love Covenant.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
The reason I bring that up, we're the.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Friday Football Feast three to six thirty, the Football Beast exactly.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
But Brandon Muleski, producer, Common Man program, you mentioned sneaky,
good ad and all of these things.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Let's get pumped up for Bobby Brink here. Tennebee is
an elite hockey mind.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
But he did right, bought your a check for a first, second, third,
and fourth and sold him for a third line winger.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Okay, yuck, all right? That was from ten about an
hour ago. Okay, Well, I mean he and.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Others can choose to dwell, and if they want to,
that's great because clearly it did not work out for
the haul that was given. As we discussed a little
while ago, there are one of two ways to look
at it. You can either move for something that you
are absolutely dead set to make work. Okay, and this
(44:43):
doesn't look great and it seems to be getting worse,
but damn it, I can't be wrong and I can't
face this public shrudiny or scrutiny from mister Leopold, the owner.
So we're gonna make this work or you can recognize
I struck out. Yeah, and it's time to get out
and move on. So yeah, I mean that's with respect
this low hanging fruit right there. So the trade deadline
(45:05):
is it?
Speaker 4 (45:05):
Two?
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Also, Russo, you mentioned some of his posts on x
He noted that it was Future Considerations that the Wild
sent to Chicago, and he put in parentheses aka nothing.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
So this is actually I mean, you effectively got Nick
Felino for free. So we still have just over three hours,
three hours and thirty seconds for Bill Garran to continue
making moves if he is so apt to do so,
and then the trade deadline will be complete and the
wild roster, for the most.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Part, we went complete.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
When I say, or I've said before, Michael Russo is
the pre eminent beat writer for any sport. And really
he is the most detailed, bulldog ish, hard working beat
writer that I've ever come across in my life. And
that goes all the way back to when I wrote
for the Pasadena Star News eighty nine to ninety three.
(45:59):
And this is another example why it's Russo tweeted forty
minutes ago. I mean, look at the depths of this now,
John Rablushki, It's Robleski was the coach of the Olympic team.
Yeah the ladies, right, yes, okay, yeah, that's right. Okay,
So Russo tweets. Not that they'll necessarily play together, but
(46:23):
John Rabluski told me Bobby Brink and Matt Boldy had
quote unreal chemistry and to quote at the twenty nineteen
under eighteen's and he'll quote thrive under Heinze end to quote,
I mean it's twenty nineteen to twenty twenty six, so okay,
(46:48):
but I mean still to have that in your back
pocket to drop on a day like this, I'm giving
you Covenant class Man because that's his next level right there.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
He just never stops, and so I mean, you might
as well just do it then, shouldn't you. Pa, You
got capris Off, Hartman and Zookie are your top line,
second line, Eric Sinek, Matt Boldie and Minnetaka's finest break.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
On the two line.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Then you get the krem line back together with year Off,
Trennon and Tarasenko.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Do you think Bartley thought we meant eleven Am Pacific.
I think he's an actor, so he might still be
on Los Angeles time.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
So I did text.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
I did text the Hollywood superstar that is Adam Bartley.
He's here actually, so yeah, just within the last two minutes,
let's pause and let's bring in mister Bartley and get
his thoughts on a Bobby Brink to the Minnesota whild.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Now news do nord thirteen minutes long. For those who
just tuned in NHL Trade deadline day, your wild has
been active. Just give us a quick little recap from
Petrie dishing it to whomever.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Yeah, to Felina Feleno, that one's free. Oh Donnie, you
could have that one for free. Budsy O.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Remember Kyler the Creator. Yes, that's what I call him.
That's what I call him when we play the cards.
He's Kyler the Creator. And you're gonna have to dust
that off starting on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
I have seen so many videos by the way of
people like on social media. Hey, Kyler's welcome to Minnesota.
And it's just some kid walking.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Unbelievable s Kyler Murray outside of Valley Fair today. They
show this three foot kid looking through a chain link fence.
The bumper cars had a bumper car. Bit that's not open. Oh,
let Kyler ride.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Come on, guys, Depth Defenseman Elder Statesman Jeff Peatree. That
was last evening, I believe coming from the Panthers. He's
going to join the team in Vegas. And then Bobby Brink,
the twenty four year old Minnesotan from the Flyers. He's
here in exchange for your a check. And then Nick Folino,
Marcus's older brother, is now joining the Wild from Chicago
for quote unquote future considerations, i e. A little freebie
(49:02):
in a chance for Felino to taste the postseason again.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
That's news Den Art. Excellent work.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Adam Bartley Minnesota, Vikings fan and Minnesota and I'm also
big time actor. Adam Bartley joins nine to Noon in
Studio to chat about a bunch of things around the corner.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
You're listening' KFA and good morning,
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