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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Taylor Heisi and her fiance Parker Fox will be in
studio about an hour from now. Taylor heise of the
gold medal winning variety with the USA Women's Olympic Hockey team,
also a member of the Frost who won an overtime
against Toronto yesterday and beloved Taylor had a goal and
a couple of assists and an assist on the ot

(00:31):
game winner. So a Golden Time of Day unfurls about
an hour from now in studio nine to noon with
a Taylor Heisee and Parker Fox. But now from the
fighting state of Utah, the original co host of the
Friday Football Feast Paul Charchie and joins us.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Good morning, PAULI, how are you. Good morning.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I am ninety three percent less Flemmy than I was
at this time on Friday, So doing well.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Thank you very much. We a little more detail than
you probably needed. Well, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
We started a talkback theme today, might use it a
little more this week. It's it's it's simple, it's got
some low hanging fruit to it. But but I want
to hear what your take on it is. Given you
follow the NFL and the Vikings as closely as you do.
So you know Rashaun Gary has been traded. You know
Eric Wilson's back in the mix. You know Ivan paced

(01:24):
Junior probably is back in the mix. With all that said,
all right, and you know the names of the players
who reportedly will be released make the Vikings better into
twenty twenty six? How do you make the team better
with free agency? This quarterback situation and morble of a
charging good morning, Hi, good morning. I'm going to give

(01:48):
you a couple of angles on that one.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Is not that sneaky, I think, at least to this
listening audience, but might be nationally my favorite running back
value they you can go get to pair up with
Jordan Mason is the same kid who torched the Vikings
in week number four. And I think if we're not
for that, people would not be would be less aware

(02:11):
of our listening audience about just how good Kenneth Gainwell is.
Any n you remember that Pittsburgh game, Yeah, that's right
against the Vikings. He went six for six in that
game as a receiver, rolled up a one hundred and
thirty four total yards in that game and is part

(02:33):
of their one two punch. Was very, very good He
is much more of a slasher than what we get
out of Jordan Mason, who's more of a north south
power runner, and I think would be I think he
would be an outstanding addition. But I'd love to have
Kenneth Walker well. Sure, I'd love to have Kenneth Walker.
I just don't think that we're going to be able
to land Kenneth Walker financially, so, you know, instead, Kenneth

(02:57):
Gainwell to me, is an affordable solve at a position
of need that means you don't have to go spend
you know, like a day at round four draft pick
on a running back to helps solidify the one two
punch that you want to have in your backfield.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
So what do you think, Paul Kenneth gain Well? Uh?
I like it.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Gain Well is one of the two uh that that
I've kind of had on my radar for about a
week and a half two weeks would gain Well, but
about a month with wide receiver Juwan Jennings, who I
think is cost effective and is the He's the kind
of guy with his physicality, is locker room leadership and
just who Juwan Jennings is overall as a player. I

(03:39):
think I think Juwan Jennings would be a cool ad here.
But nine to noon in the listening audience is incredibly
shocked that we lay out make the Vikings better and
you immediately go to offense.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Is is there.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Is there like with uh with with all the quarterbacks
that we hear about and recognizing the veteran quarterback to
be signed here, assuming it happens, will need to play
close to the veteran minimum.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
With all that known, who do you like and why?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
And I do have a corner back that I want
to recommend as well, but let's go to Let's stay
with quarterback.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Give it to us first, the defensive god, all right.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
The cornerback I want to target is Kansas City cornerback
Jalen Watson. Well, he's somebody that we we talked about
on Fantasy Football Weekly lot because he was somebody you
had to be worried about when your team went up
against the against the Chiefs. He in five hundred and
eleven coverage snaps last year. Jalen Watson allowed zero touchdown

(04:49):
passes come on none and Trent mcduffy was the one
a back there, but quietly, Jalen Watson was the one
beat and tube was really good and I'm just I'm
a I'm a big fan of his. I think he
I think he can be somebody that significantly helps the team.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Very physical, excellent tackler as well.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
And we know that we know our corners have to
be able to tackle in this in this scheme because
they get left on islands a lot.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
You have to be able to wrap up if you're
gonna give up that pass. By the way, Also, just
a fifty eight percent completion rate on balls thrown at
Jalen Watson this year, so he is my preferred cornerback.
Ad that would also take off a position that you
would otherwise need to spend a day a day one
or day two pick on to get younger there. Watson,

(05:36):
I believe just twenty five years old. So yeah, that's
that's my sneaky cornerback play.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
What do you think about Jalen Watson, Well, it it
adds up with the trade of Trent McDuffie.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
I like him a lot.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Subsequently, the contract that he just got from the Los
Angeles Rams, I know the name, not super familiar with
the game.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, I'm just I'm worried about the amount of cash
involved in that one charge. I mean kind of the idea,
especially you just saw the four and what was it
four and one twenty four and one twenty five something
like that for McDuffie, and Watson already kind of got yeah. Yeah,
he's the highest McDuffie's highest paid corner in NFL history
out there in LA WHOA, yeah, I don't know you

(06:19):
mentioned Watson. I loved gain well most of the most
of how I've handled this, I don't want to call
it dumpster diving per se, but certainly not top tier.
I mean Linderbaum, you saw the money that Connor mcgovernn
just got to stick with the bills.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I think it was four and fifty two.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
So Linderbaum is going to be the most coveted dude
among free agent centers. So you know, I'm looking at
like Caid May's from the Panthers, or you mentioned you
mentioned Jalen Watson is a corner. I'm wondering if Tradavius White,
a decade into his career, has something left or Jabelle
Dean or Eric I'm trying to figure out how to
pronounce uh noah igbanaghae uh and good.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Luck with that. During a Friday. Don't don't don't how
don't learn how to do that?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
No, you nailed it.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
But before I throw a couple of ideas at you, charge,
I did want to backtrack to what PA asked you
in terms of this this quarterback kerfuffle, this conundrum, this
dilemma with several veterans that the Vikings potentially could add
thanks to the dime of other teams with all that
dead money and guaranteed stuff hanging out there.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Who suits your fancy?

Speaker 4 (07:25):
I know we had mentioned kind of shooting the bleep
a couple of weeks ago, talking about like Derek Carr
and that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
But who's hot on your mind?

Speaker 4 (07:33):
As teams will start releasing guys in a couple of days,
and this affords you the opportunity to stamp it and say,
Zach Wilson is a zero of ten?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
What are these idiots doing? And he's never ever going
to succeed in the National Football League because maybe, and
you know this is in jest, maybe it's Zach Wilson
for the veteran minimum and he goes for thirty touchdowns
and nine picks.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Oh man, what a story that would be.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
And as if Jets fans aren't having unraveled enough over
the Sam Darnold dissension, right if we pulled that off, Well,
the two big names are Kyler Murray in Tua. I'd
love to tuck those three with you. Here's your case
for Kyler Murray coming to the Vikings. So let me
start here. Nordo BA. During Kyler Murray seven years in Arizona,

(08:24):
he missed thirty games for the Cardinals. Would you care
to guess how many of those thirty games the Cardinals
won without Kyler Murray in those seven years eighteen?

Speaker 2 (08:34):
I would guess you said thirty games he missed.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
I'm gonna say they won like six or seven games.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Five now, So you know, point being, you know this
isn't all on Kyler Murray, right, you know, putting other
guys in, although Jacoby Brissett looked very comfortable in that
offense in a way, honestly, Kyler Murray didn't last year.
But you know, the Cardinals were broken organization. It's possible
nobody was going to succeed at quarterback given the you know,
the coaching and the tools and the players that are

(09:05):
around him. Now did have some pretty good receivers to
throw to over Kyler Murray's career through to Larry Fitzgerald,
DeAndre Hopkins, Christian Kirk, zach Ertz, Marquis Brown, if Marvin
Harrison Junior counts is good him too.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
So it's not like he had no help.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
But you know, I just think the middling results we
got from Kyler Murray might have just been organizationally. I
don't know that anybody would have been great there. And
he really wants to play for the Vikings. You know,
you can see where he would like to have a
Sam Darnold like reclamation season, So that part would make sense,
and I'm I'm convincing myself that we could do it.

(09:43):
But one of the things that worries me, and you
guys tell me, is this, how much of this worries you?
With With Kyler Murray, he has been almost entirely like
a ninety percent shotgun quarterback. You know, koc Is is
not isn't. He's an under center guy. He's like, I think,
roughly in the fifty sixty percent under center for his quarterbacks.
That's a stylistic change that I would like to believe

(10:04):
Murray could do, but I don't know that does worry
me a little bit, and his improvisational stylings doesn't feel
like KOC either. So I'm starting to warm up to
the idea of Kyler Murray. Where do you guys stand
on Kyler?

Speaker 4 (10:20):
My stance on him is, if that's the decision they make,
then then I'm open to it. And for all the
reasons that you've just stated, it's what is this thing going.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
To look like? The improvisation?

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Do we have to sign a five to ten center
so Kyler can see over them all of those things
that play into it. If that's the decision they make,
that tells me that there is such a lack of
confidence at this stage that JJ McCarthy's ready to rock
to the point where they would effectively put Kyler in
a spot to take hold long term of the starting

(10:53):
position in Minnesota. And I have to at this stage,
in lieu of other information, I have to also try
us Kevin O'Connell that if he brings in Kyler Murray,
he knows about all the scrambling, he knows about the
decision making and all the potential inadequacies of Kyler Murray,
and he believes that either one way or another that
Kyler can find a way to be a little more
efficient in this offense, or Kevin O'Connell would be open

(11:16):
to some of that improvisation, to some of that raw
athleticism and talent that Kyler undoubtedly has. So if Kevin
O'Connell makes that decision, I actually am intrigued and kind
of excited to see what the hell that thing would
look like.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
I personally, I'm intrigued now in a move based offense,
because I mean, we all know this Kyler going on
bob and seven step drops and being made to stay
in the pocket's not gonna happen. I mean, you can
preach it to him all you want, it's not going
to happen. But when he breaks the pocket because he's
so gifted running and now he's starting to slide more

(11:53):
and get out of bounce from what I understand, and
potentially not take as many running related injuries as he has. Well,
Addison and Jefferson down the field trying to figure out
where Murray's gonna go with the run, Well, yeah, that
that that intrigues me greatly.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Tua does not intrigue me if his team is going
to walk away from one hundred and twenty five million
dollars just to be rid of him.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
That's a concern.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
The you know, Murray's Murray's also they're also walking away
from a lot with Murray too.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
But Tua, you've.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Also you add in any play could be the last
of his career. Literally, you've got all the you know,
the predilection for dumpoffs.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
That's a that's a real concern. Uh.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
He doesn't have just sort of like that that fire
in his belly, that will to win that you really
want out of that quarterback position.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
I just don't.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
I just Tua to me does not does not look
like the a reclamation project that's likely to hit.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
I'm not saying you couldn't win with him and that
Koc couldn't get wins with him, you know, I I
want to believe they could. But I just don't see
a scenario where you're signing to a to his next
big contract because things went so well in his first
year in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, I tend to agree with you there. Charge what
what do you think of Gino Smith? Okay, well, okay,
I don't want him as my starter.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Okay, I'll start there, and presumably we've already got our
backup in JJ McCarthy. So I don't, I don't, I
don't have I don't have any interest in Gino. It
feels like somewhere between Seattle and Las Vegas is the
real Geno. Seattle was such a good, well coached team
with surrounded by good players and a good organization that

(13:37):
I think made him look better than he really was.
Then he goes to Las Vegas and it's the exact opposite.
Nothing around him is any good. They trade away his
best wide receivers, and you know, Rock Bowers has hurt
all year, the organization's putrid and disease, and he looks way,
way worse than Seattle.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
The truth is probably between those two, but I don't
want to.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
I don't want to find out on our dime here
at which version. And I think he's going to enter
his fourteenth season right now. So I just again, that's
another guy. I just I don't see. Even if things
go well, it doesn't feel like there's a future where
you're signing Geno Smith to his next Vikings contract.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
If you sign him to one here.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
But similar to the way we were talking about Kyler charge,
if they go that Geno route, if they go aging
veteran route. Doesn't that tell you that, hey, we need
we still need some cooking and some simmering and some
growth from the kid, but that JJ McCarthy is still
certainly the long term plan. Wouldn't that tell you that
if if Gino Smith rolls in here, who, by the way,

(14:38):
Seattle has a terrific organization, no doubt about it. Don't
we have some good things that a quarterback could work
with a Geno Smith at this stage of his career.
Maybe he's got we have some assets that could allow
Gino to flourish.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Well, okay maybe, but you know, again, it feels like
all you're doing is put a twenty twenty six band
on it. I would rather go with honestly, even to it,
and especially Kyler, just for the age differential, because if
those guys are good at their age, it would make
sense to make them the next quarterback for the Vikings
as well. And you know, at this point, I think

(15:15):
we can I think reasonable people can agree nobody's writing
off JJ McCarthy, but we also can't put ourselves in
a position we have to depend on him turning it around.
You know, I think he's just found money at this
point if it works out and it turns out he's great,
well fantastic, and I don't want to give him away,
but at this you can't count on it. You have
to treat JJ McCarthy as found one.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
All right, all right? Charge moving on from GINO. Hey,
as you're looking at things, and at eleven o'clock we
start hearing. At some point in that eleven am hour,
we'll begin to hear people signing deals, et cetera. Are
you focused more on, hey, Ryan Kelly retired? We need
an answer. There can't be Brandle and a draft pick.
We got to find a free agent. Are you more

(15:56):
focused maybe on hey, hard Grave and Allen didn't work
out here last year. We're moving on, well, what does
the depth look like on the defensive front? Where are
you peeking around at the Vikings depth chart and kind
of starting to rank or provide, uh, maybe a little
more a little extra focus as free agency starts to
lift off to make the Vikings.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Better interior, defensive line and center, huge huge topics here.
You know, the center gets real thin, real fast. You
we remember it might be that like the third best
free agent center is Austin Schlottman. And you know it's
there's not there's not a lot of help coming at

(16:37):
that position, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
But there's there is.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
There's a lot of familiar names at defensive tackle that
are potentially available here, and this will be part of
the challenge. DJ reader Tim Settle de Kwon Jones. Do
you want the ninety third year of Kalaias Campbell? There's
there's gonna be at least how about Tyris? How about
Tyris Tomgut coming back right after a Super Bowl trip.

(17:03):
You know, we didn't think much of him here, but
he played a lot of downs for the Patriots last season.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
I think those are going to be that.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
If you asked me to pick a position that will
be early addressed early by the Vikings in free agency,
I think it's going to be interior defensive line.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
You guys, do you guys agree? Are you with me
on this thinking?

Speaker 5 (17:21):
No?

Speaker 2 (17:22):
I tend to agree with you.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
I like that John Franklin Myers cat from the Broncos
fifteen it's like fourteen or fifteen sacks the last two seasons.
We got Javon Hargrave putting out on X that interior
d lineman can't get sacks in the Flores system. But
I like Franklin Myers, Dalvin Tomlinson could come back.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
I mean, look at these names.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
This is an awful time in some respects for a
team that's trying to get cheaper and younger. You mentioned
DJ Reader, Shelby Harris is out there. PA's favorite player,
Larry Ogan Jobi is available. Sheldon rankins. We can get
giadd Ward back, Hatty hatty Ward back in the mix
for the Minnesota Vikings. A lot of late late career

(18:04):
dinner circuit names becoming available these days.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Charge. Yeah, now, what are we doing at safety?

Speaker 3 (18:11):
I mean, you know, I don't know if Harrison Smith
has tipped his hand to the organization so that they
know how to the degree to which they need to
prioritize safety. Obviously it's not public yet and Harrison is
not obligated to make a decision, but boy, it would
be nice if Harrison Smith decided to let the organization
know where he's leaning right now so they can make

(18:33):
they can make a decision one way or another and
know if they need to go land a Cameron Curl
or a Kobe Bryant or somebody, you know, somebody else
at the safety position. Because that's another spot that is
that is rather thin all of a sudden, draft feels
like safety and draft.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
I think Cam Curll recently resigned with the Rams, so
take him off the board might be right, I'd put
I'd put it in ninety to ninety five percent that
that Harrison's going to retire. But let me let me
ask you this question. Uh, the Chicago traded Dj Moore
to Buffalo and their good center retired at a very

(19:11):
young age. Then they traded for Garrett Bradbury the Bears.
Is this the team to beat in the NFC North
next season? Yeah, it feels that way, doesn't it mean?

Speaker 3 (19:23):
You know so that they have the luxury of being
able to trade Dj Moore, And it's because look what
they did in their draft. They hit on Roma Dunda,
Luther Burden, and Colson Lovelin hit on all of them.
And when you when you have the luxury of three
twenty three year old guys that all look like their
NFL caliber and some and maybe maybe awesome at their position,

(19:46):
then you have the luxury of moving on from your
twenty nine year old wide receiver DJ Moore. And the Bills,
of course, are just trying to keep their window open
for Josh Allen and trying to stay relevant here and
they haven't been able to solve wide receiver at all,
so they kind of overpay. Bears get second rounder, They
get out of forty dollars in guaranteed money and DJ

(20:06):
Moore was not needed on this team anymore.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
So that gives that, you know, that.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Spreads around one hundred more targets for a Dunesay and
Bourbon and Colson Lovelin.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
The Bears.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
They've got clearly a very good coach, they have an
a sending offense, and now they you know, they get
yet another great They get another high pick in a
draft by giving up players that they didn't need much
like much like they did with with Young to Carolina.
So it just feels like a little bit of the
rich getting richer in Chicago. And you know, now they

(20:39):
got an opportunity to get even better and they're nailing
their draft picks and that it just makes such a
big difference when when you've got young talent on your
team like they do in a position.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
And yes, I'm jealous right now. Time for two more
Pa and Church. Do you have a Viking?

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Do you have a Vikes at eighteen player to stamp
yet or do you still need to do work?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
No, I I do have a Vike sit at eighteen.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
AVM Terrelf the cornerback for Clemson is kind of is
where I'm sitting right now. You get somebody with not
necessarily elite ball skills, but really good covered skills. Nine
passes defended last year, actually use it. He can be
physical despite only being uh five eleven one ninety, can
be physical, good tackler.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
That's you know.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
That's where I'm on right now. Is the team needs
cornerback help as they as this team has for like
I don't know, fifteen straight years. Cornerback help is where
is where I'm going right now.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
How about you guys? Do you have you have early
early picks at eighteen for the Vikings, Theemon Oregon. What
about you?

Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm I'm on Theeneman right now. Given
the safety, I mean, what I want to see the
Vikings do, because there's about sixty five free agent safeties
is I would like to see them bring in a
safety and as many as are available that should probably
put the push the dollar amount down and then I
want him to go hard after after a guy in April,

(22:06):
and that might be theenem And there's some defensive tackles.
PA's mentioned Peter Woods a couple different times. I don't
know if eighteen's the spot to get them, but but
similarly on the defensive front, if we can get one
of these old timers and then address that with one
of our first couple of picks in April as well,
I'd feel really really good about those moves by Brazinski.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Chargie, last one you left the Gee, all right? Last
year you left Gee? Will Will you have some form
of fantasy football business venture anew or do you call
it an hof career?

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I hope I do.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
I've got it's I can't talk about anything that I'm
doing right now, but i'd like to. I'd like to
believe that we're we're still having a lot of fun
and doing doing fun stuff next next football season as well.
It's just there's it's they're just a lot of things
in motion right now as we are six months away
from the season.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
But thank you for asking that you care. I appreciate
that understandably. And you know what else is in motion?

Speaker 1 (23:06):
All those Utah Jazz games you're probably watching out Saint
George Away.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Right, that would be your your mammoth right here, this
is it's Mammoth country.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
You know that, and mammoth wild. I think playing the
playing today or tomorrow? Correct? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:22):
In St Paul Tomore, Yes, yeah, the mammoth has former
and you probably know this has former Gopher Logan Cooley.
And Cooley is going to play with the US and
the twenty thirty Olympics. He wears ninety two and is
easy to spot Logan Cooley. Make him your favorite player?
All right, deal, we'll do that.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Thank you, my Matt. It's great talking to both of you. Again.
Let's be friends more often if.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
You would likewise, my brother, have a good week. Paul
Charchiam nine to noon into the second half of the presentation.
Some more, make the Vikings better, talkbacks around the corner
if we have them, and gold Medal Radio at eleven o'clock.
Taylor Heisei in studio with fiance Parker Fox.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
It's nine to it, Hey, Detrey Lakes go wild.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
I don't think any of the four veteran quarterbacks do
anything for me, especially if our offensive line is not
greatly improved. Our free agency and draft needs to focus
on the lines, both of them. Again, we swung and
missed last year. That's what needs to improve. The quarterbacks

(24:38):
play will improve accordingly.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Well, thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
I don't I mean continually upgrading or four to fine
a moving company is never a bad idea. I trust
the moving company. When Darisow plays all the games and
Donovan Jackson at left guard, I'm cool with that. Likewise,
with the right guard, center situation needs to be figured out.
So maybe that was the Maybe that was the crux

(25:05):
of the matter. And the right tackle is still quite
good too. When it comes to the next veteran quarterback
to join the Covenant. Got a text during the Paul
Charchian conversation from a Texter.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Whose name will not be released.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Tua as in tongue Iiloa Tua is Waterford crystal, beautiful,
but extremely delicate and breakable.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I always love that one. Thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
And I'm also I'm also reminded that just because we're
not seeing or hearing a lot about Mac Jones with
the San Francisco forty nine ers, I mean, that doesn't
mean that that's a zero yeah for the Minnesota Vikings.
Just because we're not hearing about it or what will
go into it and things like that.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
And since he's under contract with the team, it would
be a trade, which means it's not a it has
to be figured out Wednesday afternoon type of thing either.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, correct, now the I mean I understand what my
man was saying via the talkback, and like all the
names and Kyler and the miss games and Geno Smith
near the end, who knows what Couz Buzz is going
to need to make. Who knows what Aaron Rodgers has
up his tattered sleeve this offseason. But this isn't a

(26:24):
forever thing. So like with Kyler Murray, if Kyler Murray
is the Minnesota Vikings starting quarterback in twenty twenty six,
you want him to go lights out. You want him
to put the team in a precarious position where they
now are either forced to pay what it would take

(26:47):
to keep that quarterback who jumped out of his skin,
or they got to deal with letting him go and
moving forward.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
With McCarthy, I think I maybe I'm wrong on this
with what happened Darnald so Donald for the most part,
goes lights out. He sacked a bunch, but it's a
good season for the for the Purple Yeah, sadly lose
to the Rams, you let him go. I don't think
you let Kyler go. If he blows up in twenty
twenty six. If he goes lights out and this is

(27:15):
a double digit win team, he looks terrific.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yep, oh my goodness.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
He blew this game for us in early October, but
he was hammering on things and he's going three touchdowns,
no picks, three hundred yards in December. Then I think
that that ends the whole conversation, which is Jay.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
I'm not dumb, and you know I'm not. If Kirk
Cousins somehow ends up here as that guy, I'm not
negative on that. Now, if he goes lights out, I mean,
if Kirk goes eight of ten, you win double digit games,
maybe win a playoff game.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Well, that's not.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
A three year, eight zillion dollar deal, correct, I mean
that that's kind of the best situation if it works,
is Cousins and the cousin's kindness working with the kid. Yeah,
I'm still not I can't like, Kirk ain't gonna come
here unless he starts, all right, but at like age

(28:11):
thirty seven into the season, and this is somebody of
whom I'm very fond. So ain't the easiest thing to say,
but has he earned the right at this stage of
his career to make that demand? And if Kirk Cousins
demands to start in twenty twenty six, what other teams
will give him that opportunity? Okay, so maybe the New

(28:36):
York Jets. Does he want to be a Jet? Do
you want to be a Jet? Do you want to
put Lavernius Calls on a series of double moves? I
just I don't see it that way. So it's still
very complex, very confusing. I'm not eliminating the mac Jones
portion of the equation, but like I said atop the show,
it just feels like somebody has to be near the

(28:57):
veteran minimum mac Jones the vetermentimum. But to get him,
you would trade somebody that is making a fair amount,
I would imagine, so then that would come off. It's
just confusing and it just needs to end.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
One thing I would do.

Speaker 7 (29:14):
I would trade Jordan Addison for a player or a pick,
and I would sign Jalen Naylor as the two Wow.
Jordan Addison has proven he is a problem off the field,
and he's gonna want a giant bag, bigger than what

(29:35):
Naylor is gonna get today.

Speaker 6 (29:37):
Trade Addison sign Naylor.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
That that's a great talkback. All right, it's a great
talkback at least for me, you know, to to for
from the opinion stating business doesn't mean as right as
my opinion. Jordan Addison's better than Jalen Naylor. All right,
he's a better player. Yeah, so you don't I have
to worry about Jaalen away from things the way you

(30:03):
do Jordan. And that comes with all due respect, but
it just has proven itself out over the years. So now,
if you trade Jordan Addison, and I think if he
gets that fifth year option because he was a first
round pick, they decide that in May, maybe, yeah, I

(30:23):
think that's like eighteen million dollars.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
That's a lot.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
So like my man said, there, all right, trade Jordan
re up Nailer. Okay, I'm cool if they do that.
But the team that would be trading for Jalen for
Jordan Addison, well they would have the same questions, how
much can I trust him?

Speaker 2 (30:44):
How much are we going to have to pay? Do
I get to do that fifth year option?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
And do I have just wide him off the field, right,
So that's it's not exactly the greatest bargaining position in
which to be, but they're I mean, Kyle Shanahan, if
he could fit it in, that's the kind of guy that.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Would move on Jordan Addison. And you know it's it's.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Would they move on Addison or be hesitant because they're
just going through the Ayuk Ayu Kayuk.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Is wow leaving the building. Good question.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Well see you see Brandon, Brandon got hurt. Well, Brandon
got weird, and then Brandon got hurt, and then Feebo
Samuel who from what I understand was kind of a
big brother to Brandon. Ayuk, well then he left and
then everything went pear shaped. Then they kicked Brandon off
the team. But Ayuk, unless I'm I'm forgetting something. I

(31:37):
the off the field stuff, sleeping in a car, just
just all of that.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
I'm just it's sleeping in a car. I Yuk is mercurial.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, I U can be enigmatic, But I just don't
know if like worrying about that kind of stuff with
Ayuk is a situation for the forty nine ers.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
It's probably I just any team that the leverage or
the bargaining position is just purely the capital. I mean
you could move, you know, the same way the Cowboys
are trying to figure out what the what the Packers
could and getting the best out of Rashan Gary. The
team that makes the trade thinks that they can solve
that problem that leads you down a road where you're

(32:18):
trying to get rid of a problem. Yeah, but that
that mercurial or oddness to just unpredictable nature of Jordan Addison,
that that's going to whatever you think that the what
do you think you're going to get a second.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Rounder for Jordan Addison? Right? I don't.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
I don't think you would the According to the tweet
machine from the Minnesota Vikings x account, oh Jalen Redmond,
the Vikings have tender Jalen Redman's contact contract for twenty
twenty six nice Greg Peters Vikings dot com rights. The
Vikings Monday announced they have placed the exclusive rights free

(32:57):
agent tender on Jalen Redmond. Move is one of the
easier decisions for Minnesota, brings Redmond back for twenty twenty six,
with an eventual opportunity for a longer term deal. Redman
was deservedly dubbed the defensive lines unsung hero. In vikings
dot COM's position recap in January, the designation follows him

(33:20):
playing nearly eight hundred defensive snaps at a sixty two tackle,
six sacks, eight quarterback hits, twelve TFLs, and a forced fumble,
a couple of fumble recoveries five passes defensed in twenty
twenty five. I like that a lot about Jalen Redman
because Jalen, he's not super tall. But to get that
amount of passes defensed from a defensive lineman, that's a

(33:43):
fat number, especially given his stature or or it's not like,
you know, it's not like we're talking about Kyle. I mean,
it's not like we're talking about a shorter defensive lineman
running around. But he's not as tall as some others.
Just think big ticket Vin Williams. He ain't all like that.
Kevin was elite at passes defense. So Jalen Redman back

(34:07):
in the mix, Eric Wilson back in the mix, Ivan
Paced Junior most likely back in the mix. What's the
next shoe to drop? Free agency begins today nine to
noon is here to talk about it?

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(34:51):
How about some high school hockey title winners.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Morehead with the puck is tat Artiker from minnetaka. It's
pulped off is tig Morehead takes over max Con with
the quick pass. Here up the right wing side of
here's water with a shot scares for the spots. Like said,
double overtime.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
That was the double a affair Morehead as you heard
it back to back. How about war Road For the
first time in quite a while.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Whoa.

Speaker 8 (35:21):
Whoa Ryan Saga Bay Mooney was the overtime winner one
minute in overtime and for the first time since two
thousand and five, the war Old Warriors are state.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Tamp Congratulations to war Road, Morehead, everybody involved a terrific
tournament at Grand Casino Arena. Kevin falneys to heard their
Zach Halverson on the calls and coverage on the fan,
Danny Ryan providing all the analysis. Terrific work by those
guys to the pro team. I was good times, bad
times over the weekend, starting with the good for the
Minnesota Wild in Vegas.

Speaker 9 (35:56):
You get ahead, mccarott, bounce it along. It's a two
on one, make it a three on. Tarasenko dropped it
back this perche and took a return.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Pass to pay Scott.

Speaker 8 (36:05):
Vladimir Tarasenko beat Smith five hole and the Wild with
some insurance.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Late it's four one Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
I believe it was four to two the final, but
on Sunday, battling back, even taking the lead at one
point I think it was Nico Stern with a shorty.
It goes to a shootout, and well McKinnon did his thing.

Speaker 9 (36:25):
Nathan McKinnon now another chance to.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Win it for the whole town Avalanche.

Speaker 9 (36:29):
He's won for three on the Season'll pick up the puck,
darting in McKinnon right through the shoot slows the pace down.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
It's got.

Speaker 9 (36:38):
Nathan McKinnon wins it for Colorado speeding in Chamming on
the bricks stamped the glove side and the app survived
the Wild's third period push.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Yeah, they lose in the shootout and they still get
the point. So five to six points to their last
three games. You dig all that, and now they come
home for four straight. Cool chat you had with Bruce
Boudreau that'll podcastable shortly after the show.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
During the nine am hour.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Love hearing from the former Wild coach in terms of
how he sees this team, but sadly with eighteen to go,
it's not about being resigned to it, but you can basically,
let's watch cool stuff, Let's go beat the Mammoth and
Flyers this week, et cetera. But it's the Stars, it's
the Stars. There's a couple against the Stars, a little
tune ups, a little heat check.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Maybe before that series. The only thing really we don't know.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
At this stage is whether we're headed to Dallas or
they're headed to Saint Paul for game one.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
It feels like.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
March twenty first, in April eight those are the key dates.
Saturday the twenty first, Dallas is here and the Wild
is are at Dallas April eighth for those tone setting games.
Heinzy's PK just offgoing eighteen of eighteen, leading it for
the men's Olympians. It was fantastic yesterday. I think Colorado

(37:56):
was on five power plays one zero for five. Not
prefer to put McKinnon on on power plays, we all
know that. But nevertheless, they got out of it alive
and with Boudreau. And when you podcast this one of
the one of many interesting answers from NHL Network and

(38:17):
former Wild coach Bruce Boudreau during the nine to twenty
today was the tricky nature of getting new players, specifically
when you have a handful like the Wild do, getting
integrating them with what already is good. Now, Nordo just said,
you know, we the Wild. They come home to play

(38:38):
Churches Mammoth tomorrow night, boxing the box Friday from Tria
where they do morning skates in Saint Paul. That's Thursday
with the Philly Flyers in town. But the five points
out of six available they came against the Tampa Bay
Lightning with Koucher, off, Vegas with Keel and Colorado with McKinnon.

(38:59):
I mean, that ain't nothing but good news right there.
And the Wild absolutely can beat the Colorado Avalanche in
a seven game series.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Gotta get Bye Dallas first.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Super tricky to the Minnesota Timberwolves a sleepy Saturday at
Target Center.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
The Wolves kind of rolled that early leads, still at
a seven point lead midway through the second and then
Orlando twenteen to two to close the first half, and
they just really have not stopped since pain.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
That's to his total, he's got twenty six. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Desmond Baine led the visiting Orlando Magic with thirty points
on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
A Polo Bencero went for twenty five.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
And you know, outside of I mean the thirty four
you get from Aunt, he came out dealing very early.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
In the affair.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
But other than that, you got Julius Randa with some struggles,
Dante Oh for six.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, from deep in that game. It was out to lunch, you.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Get to you get midway through the second quarter and
it was like, I don't think they have it today.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
So still third five the West.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
A lot of good things to look forward to, but
this time of year, especially given you talked with Chris
Finch last week and the quote early on from him
that I really liked and talking about consistency and things
that he found that they were finding their focus, that
there was some urgency that he was seeing and in
some really good recent games. Did not did not see

(40:21):
that on Saturday by any stretch of the imagination. They
get whooped one nineteen ninety two, and then they head
out next up the Lake Show tomorrow. They're at the
Lakers tomorrow evening. That's a late one on NBC. I
believe at Lakers at Clippers. The next game. They got
Golden State later in the week. They come home next week.

(40:42):
I think there's a fourth one in that equation, maybe
on the road, But like the wild we're in super
deep stretch here. Desmond Bane, for my taste, officially has
become the Christian Kirk of the NBA because when the
jack when who's.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
On on Kirk? Jaguars.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah, the Jaguars signed Kirk to this massive free agent deal,
yeah eighteen or twenty a year.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah, And I.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Mean everybody from Minneapolis to MAUI just chided the Jaguars
for the move they made, and he ended up living
up to the hype and earning the money at least
a year.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Same with Desmond Baine.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
I mean, I think four first round picks might have
been given up for him, three or four and like
everybody was teasing the magic just how dumb they were
for doing what they did. Go ahead and watch him
play this year. I mean Bain with a resurgent Sugs,
a resurgent Anthony Black when he's healthy, ben Cao has
some star doing and they're without Franz Wagner right now,

(41:42):
who will come back before the end of the year.
So Orlando has gotten itself good and Bain has a
lot to do with that. Where the focus was, I
can't believe how much you gave up for him. All right,
let's play the games and see how it impacts the team.
It's helped them immensely.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Well, Bain's terrific. I loved him when he was with
the Grizzlies, but it was kind of you're giving up that,
And then maybe at the time they thought there was
a little more, a little more potential with Cole Anthony.
They give up four unprotected first Cole Anthony, your guy,
Kentavious Caldwell, Pope, you love.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
That, and it's working out for the magic you mentioned it.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
They are indeed a playoff squad and well Memphis is
in the rebuild mode.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
To the NFL.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
You hit on this earlier, still waiting for eleven am
when the tampering period officially begins and we start seeing
some deals and some numbers and some contracts being consummated.
But locally, Rashan Gary goes to the Dallas Cowboys for
a fourth round twenty twenty seven pick two years left
on that deal, salaries of eighteen and twenty one.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Locally, Ivan Pace and Jalen Redman.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
You mentioned that at the end of last segment both
were signed to well Jalen was an exclusive tender, non
exclusive or a low tender for Ivan Pace, So the
Vikings have the ants to match or refuse any offer
sheet that Pace gets from another team.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Eric Wilson gets three and.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Twenty two and a half twelve and a half if
that's guaranteed. Look at US amateur capologists, we are it's
basically a two and twelve million dollar deal or two
and twelve.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
And a half for Eric Wilson. So we absolutely nailed that.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
Garrett Bradberry was traded to the Bears over the weekend
and now he'll be the answer to Drew Dolman in
the center of their particular moving company. Connor McGovern four
and fifty two to stay in Buffalo to a tongue
of Ioloa released by the Dolphins post June first.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Not sure what that means, but the Dolphins are.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
Eating ninety nine millions over the next two How about this?
Ian Rappaport posted on X earlier this morning, quote the
Texans and standout guard at Ingram. Yeah, I've creed to
terms on a three year, thirty seven and a half bill.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Hey, young Ali keep taking that low hanging fruit on
Ingram while he keeps getting paid what standout? I mean?
It's yeah, Standout's ridiculous. I didn't watch all of his games, no, no,
but here's the deal. His teams that started ed Ingram
went about seventy five percent of the time, and he
has something to do with that. So I'm not sitting
here saying that Randall McDaniel left the covenant here. I'm

(44:17):
just saying he's doing things better than what visually we can. Occasionally. Yeah,
well at paramount see him getting pushed back into the backfield.
Had some really rough moments in the playoff game, the
one in New England with Milton Williams opposite him. But nevertheless,
it's either P. T. Barnum was right and a sucker

(44:37):
is born every day or ed Ingram's better than people think.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Yeah, he had similar numbers to what he had his
final year in Minnesota. Three hundred and some more snaps
this season, so really at the least maybe stabilized and
more more consistent.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Maybe in his first year with Houston.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
The ESPN NFL machine was all over Atlanta investigating to
Toungo Bailoa. Seeing that now too and dan Orrolofsky, I
mean it's eleven, Dan, it's noon your time, eleven Art.
I mean he's just sitting back waiting to go with
Kyler Murray to the Minnesota Vikings. So I don't know
if that's I don't know if that's like the eleven

(45:17):
am legal tampering oxymoron bit now, But man Orlofsky's opinion,
he's not breaking news guy, but he just somehow he's
just like convinced is gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
And finally, also on a Vikings no, Ryan Kelly announced
his retirement after ten seasons over the weekend. Feels like
concussion issues and not being able to get on the
field that that kind of added up, so he's hanging
it up. Stinks to see someone's career end in regard
to health related issues. One year in Minnesota, so we
can't necessarily harken back to all the great memories of

(45:50):
Ryan Kelly with best of luck in retirement, and from
a financial perspective, I believe it's eight or nine million
dollars that will be available for the Vikings.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Ryan didn't get to know him super well last year,
but I have two quick skull stories involving Ryan Kelly.
I'll never forget who first and foremost outside of the
team hotel in Dublin.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
I think that's when he got kneed in the head.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
You know, I don't like I'm not sitting there eaves
dropping on every word of people's conversations. I'm just telling
you I left that hotel to go get something neat.
He was having the most heartfelt conversation I believe with
his wife and some family members, you know, about what
had happened that day, and it was just sad and

(46:36):
I just like I knew something sad was transpiring right there. Secondly,
didn't do any of the drive bys after wins with
Ryan Kelly until the end of the season, and then
we did him like two consecutive games, and he was
so happy to talk about Brian O'Neill and Will Fryes
and the career he's had, and so thankful for the opportunity.

(46:57):
It was just cool man, so unfortunate, and it unfortunate
to have your career end on a note like that, where,
you know, unlike some others like Chad Greenway, Harrison Smith,
probably so on and so on, you want to leave
on your own terms. Can't imagine these Arion's terms, but

(47:18):
I think ten years, a decade and change or whatever
it is out of Alabama. Fantastic career, fantastic guy. Go ahead, No,
that's News to Art, brought to you by Canterbury's Card Casino.
Speaking of fantastic, a golden time of day emerges in
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