September 6, 2024 • 41 mins
Gabe Henderson kicks off the hour with PA & Charch, followed by Giants legend Tiki Barber and a bit of fantasy discussion to finish!
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Let's fan the flames here at Buffalo Wild Wings, Oakdale. Hey,
Ladies and gentlemen from Vikings dot Com and the Vikings
Entertainment Network. Love this man, Gabe Henderson. Ladies and gentlemen,
part of the Feast Mix on a weekly basis. Alex
Lewis will be here with the Athletic at eleven o'clock
and good morning, how are you g.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm good, I'm good. You talk about my liberty flames.
This week we got New Mexico State and then next
week we got Aaron Jones's UTEP. Oh. Yeah, hoping to
get in to that. I know a lot of people
were saying last year was a fluke going to the
Fiesta Bowl. But you know, with teams, with the playoff
system expanding the twelve teams, Yeah, I like our chances
this year, all right.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And in between you and Alex Lewis is the greatest
running back in the history of New York Giants football,
Tiki Barber joining the radio show.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
With an assist to our friend KF A N and
kt OK's Robbie Rosenhows to put that thing together. Oh
what do you remember about Tiki anything?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
He was a tough runner. So I think a lot
of people know I grew up. I grew up a
Cowboys fan, so I hated the Giants. I hated I
can't think of last name. Jacob's Brandon Jacob.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
But what was the They were not thunder and Lightning?
There was something else. What were they?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I can't think of the name off the top of
my head.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
What were they? Somebody helped me with this, Brandon Jacob.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Was it thunder and Lightning?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I don't think it was. I think it was there
was something different but maybe right.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
But just thinking about how hard and tough that they ran,
it was like, how are they getting this many yards?
And Tiki Barber, I think you were like number forty one,
like it was one one, yeah, something something along those lines.
And I was like, how how is this guy who
is so shifty making all these guys miss? Like how
is he doing? And then you got to respect this game.
And I love the fact that he's going to be
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joining the show. I think that's a that's a really
good get. His brother t run Da Barber, really good running,
really good safety for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Both two
really good career. So my memories revolve around not liking
those guys as I grew up a Cowboys fan, but
I respected how how he played.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
And you know, Tik, we'll talk about a Tiki when
he comes on. But ten years, same team.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
You know, that's it. You have to be really good
for a team to want you for a decade, to
be able to play effectively for a decade and be
with one team. I just think, you know, there's something special.
Look at Chad Greenway. There's something special that happens between
you and your fan base when you start an end
your career in the same place. And it doesn't mean
that you can't still be beloved by your you know,
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by the fan base if you go somewhere else at
the very end of your career. We still love Chris Carter,
but when you don't think of him as a dolphin.
But man, I don't know. I just think there's something
that that's really special when you have the opportunity to
go other places, maybe even take more money, but you
choose to stay with one organization, just become iconic with
that organization.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, I've had a few conversations with players that have
been on one team for a long time and then
ultimately they went to another team towards the end of
their career because they didn't want to take a pay cut.
And the rhetoric that I got back in the feedback
that I got back from those players, it's like, man,
I wish I would have just stayed with that team.
Like money. You know, money does talk, but sometimes the
grass isn't always greener on the other side. And Harrison
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Smith for example, c J. Hanford for an example, Like,
when you think about both of those guys' career, you're
always going to think about them as Minnesota Vikings and
just thinking about the long term effect they've had on
this fan base. This is something that they will never forget.
So I'm excited to see both of those guys stay
here in Purple for you know, the foreseeable future.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
All Right, So I have that big cartoon character smile
on my face because something just just clicked with me
that we have we have a new new individual here
who hasn't heard a couple of stories that I've shared
fifteen times on KFAM and one of them involves Dexter Lawrence. Okay,
all right, Gabe's mom not only babysat Chris Paul Okay,
(03:56):
the Chris Paul all, yep, but she.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Taught Dexter Lawrence how to drive.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Unreal, It was most of that Zachary, my mentor in
North Carolina, right, yeah, And like they put Dexter Lawrence
in this tiny little car man and.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
He was shooes.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Likenes were up in the dashboard the passenger seat. There
was literally a dent in the glove compartment from Dexter
Lawrence sitting out the front seat.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
And the shots are ruined and it's going down the
road listing heavily to one side.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But see, Gabe has such unbelievable stories that he doesn't
think about.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So like, I'm getting a no, Gabe.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
A couple of years ago, we're out at TCO Radio
studios and he just in passing is like, oh yeah,
my mom babysack wrist Paul.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I'm like, well, how did I never know that?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Oh yeah, my mentor uh in this area taught Dexter
Lawrence to drive.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Like I went to Ronald Curry's basketball I'm like, are
you kidding me? With his unbelievable story for you?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So you remember Josh Howard, I played basketball a week
cour Oh yeah, And Lifford Dallas. He was good for
Dallas Mavericks. My mom grew up across the street from
his mom, so we've we've known that family for a
while too. And just he's really involved in the community.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I know a lot of people haven't heard from him
since those Dallak Maverick days. But North Carolina is such
a small community that when you have someone who makes
it out like everyone kind of leans on that person
as like, hope, So Dexter Lawrence was that guy. Nahim
Hines and Cleveland It's crazy. Uh, those two guys they
were close growing up. And Dexter Lawrence Keith Marshall they
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played together for the same high school team. Wow, and
they both played in the NFL. So it's a it's
a small, close knit community and l it'll be fun
watching Dexter Lawrence on TV on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I hope it's fun watching Dexter Lawrence on TV on Sunday.
Is this is this is the A topic of the
game is Dexter Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Me, And if I'm not having fun watching Dexter Lawrence,
it means he's sacking my quarterback.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
See charge is so well, Lawrence is formidable out love him,
always have. But Charge is so wharry and and and
respectful of Dexter Lawrence on a Friday into a Sunday
that when we started the show, he's like, well, the
a topic is the four guys who are going to
be rushing Darnold, and then he mentioned Burns, tippo'deau and Lawrence.
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I'm like, where's the fourth Ordy account? Dexter isn't two
because he's that big him that good he.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Goes, I do he takes up two gaps. I mean,
think about how big he is and that the interior
push that he gets on a consistent basis. I think
that's something that this Minnesota Vikings offensive line has to
take into account. Look, our book ends Christian Darisol and
Brian O'Neill, if Kevon Tippodeau and Brian Burns Alando one
on one. We expect you guys to manhandle those guys
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one on one and ultimately let our interior guys worry
about Dexter Lawrence and that second guy and or my
blitzerer coming from that interior. So it'll be an interesting matchup.
I love the fact that Garrett Bradbury kind of gets
some get back on Dexter Lawrence. He's already seeing him twice. Ye,
that play from two years ago still stands out in
people's minds. And you look at how Garrett Bradberry bounced
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back last year, having that, in my opinion, a really
good year, probably his best year of his career last
year to get that opportunity again against Dexter Lawrence full health, Yeah,
to start the season off.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, you know, I'm
just I'm real. I'm just I'm hopeful. That isn't how
the game gets.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So you can't single Dexter you know, I mean Dexter
Lawrence in that playoff game had one quarterback hit one
and it was the final play of the season, you know,
So they did a pretty good job against him, but
he's the a topic they should which means doubles right
for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And when you look at Blick back at that twenty
two film Dexter Lawrence, his main priority was just stopping
to run. They weren't getting much pass for USh. She
saw a lot of landing collins blitzing and a lot
of you know, stunts and blazers. Because dex Lawrence is
going to take up two offensive linemen and then that
last driver of the game. It's like, okay, well we'll
let you loose, go do your thing. And it really
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shows the amount of trust they have in Dexa Lawrence,
both in the past rush and the run defense. So
are very excited to see.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Okay, So Dave Handlin superstats, Dave Alan Horten's right hand
man and home games, he tweeted all of us thunder
and Lightning was Ron Dane and Dankie Barber. So you
were right, yep, But I can't say I remember this name.
Brandon Jacobs, Derek Ward and a mad Brad Job. I
remember all that, but they were earth winding fire.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I did not remember that. But okay, yeah, the earth
bring fire. So Brandon Jacobs was a freaking beast.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
He was.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
He was like really mini Derrick Henry before Derrick Henry.
He had that kind of build and that kind of
power and when he got when he got that big
running lane and just had that full mass going forward,
Oh what a beast.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I mean he was the I mean because that's when
Eddie George was storting, starting to get closer to the
end of his career, and then Brandon Jacobs kind of
picked up the big running back steam where it's like, oh, well,
big running backs are still alive. And to see how
that's kind of transpired into today's running backs with Derrick Here,
Derek Henry, Najee Harris and so on and so forth.
I really love that that lineage when it comes to
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keeping those big running backs alive. Was he with Brandon Jacobs?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I believe he was at Southern Illinois, but he might
have started looting at Alabama and and I think he
might have been at Alabama with Cadillac Williams. They had
three of them. I can't remember the other one. You're right,
you're right.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
There was some other cat will somebody else.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That Auburn, Right, Auburn, Thank you Auburn william Because both
of those running backs played for that I can't think
of the other one played for the Miami Dolphins with
Ricky Williams. M I can't Brown Ronnie Brown, ron Brown there.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, like back you know, back in the day Southern
Methodist University there, their backfield was called the Pony Express
and it was Craig James blocking for Eric Dickerson. Craig
James ended up having a wonderful career. How about you know,
running back dapting college. I mean, it's like it always
starts and stops for me. With the Miami Hurricanes when
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they had well, you know, Clinton Portis, Yep, I think
I think they had like Clinton Portis Edger and j
Willis McGahee, Willis mcgabe, Yeah, Frank Gore. Eventually after that, Ye, Frank.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I think Frank Gore was coming off the bench that year, wow,
and it were so deep. That same year Sean Taylor
was coming off the bench backing up Ed Reid and people,
I mean, and Devin Hester was a corner and Roscoe
Parrish was playing. Wow, what a punt returner he was
in college?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Who was the It was Barry Sanders And.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Who Klahoma's state? Yeah, isn't it Ed McCaffrey. Wasn't Christian
McCaffrey's dad.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
At running back?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
There was? It was?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
It was Barry Sanders. And there was another running back
that was also I swear that was also very very good.
But then there was Barry Sanders. Yeah, obliterates everybody. Yes,
I swear that's the case.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And I love the fact off you know, how we're
talking about these these running backs are back in the day,
and you look at the modern day running back and
they always said they modeled their game out for those guys.
And you see, I mean looking at last night's game, right,
what's his name, man Isaiah Pacheco. Yeah, just that entire
Chiefs offense. Like they still have the balance and the
jews and the dukes that those holdes running backs have.
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But the speed Thurman Thomas.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Orman Thomas, that that was it.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Barry Sanders played with Thomas. Are you pudding me that? Thomas?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
And you're the second beat running back on your team.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That's a that's a that's a heck of a roster.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You know, Gabe, who nobody ever says, I model my
game after it's Barry Sanders, because you can't you modeled
your game after Barry Sanders.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
He's one of one, fun of one, one of one.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
There.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
There's I think it's going to be hard for us
to get another running back in the league similar to
Barry Sanders. Like Christian McCaffrey has some s to it,
you know, the balance and the dukes, but he's still
not in that same conversation as Barry Sanders.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
But yeah, to the modern day running back, well, coaches
this day and age would never let anybody play like
Barry Sanders, you know what I'm saying, running backwards and yeah,
it's like, bro, I mean, come on, I mean this
is great and everything, and you know what, Yeah, you
did get thirty five out of it, But here was
the hole right here and then CJ paved the way
with all you have to take, you know, which is
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the right way to go about it. But there are
just certain things in this day and age of the
NFL that I'm telling.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
You coaches just would not allow. Yeah, I mean the
game now is northeast and west. You don't go south.
And Barry Sanders went south before anyway he went.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
He did a lot, a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And it worked. It worked for that for that you
know Detroit Lions team and that Silver Dome. I just
ended up fit. I actually just finished watching that Barry
Sanders documentary the other day, which is which is really good.
Talked about why he retired, which we still don't know why.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Well so they didn't say, and that he didn't say
in the documentary. Really, Barry's tricky, he is, but it
has to be the fact that he was the best
running back maybe ever and they put nothing around him
for his whole career. Terrible offensive line, no quarterbacking. I mean,
I just at some point, the assumption is that he
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just got frustrated with all the losing and the lack
of support around him.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Put Barry Sanders on that same Emmitt Smith Cowboys team.
Oh god, the Cowboys win way more Super Bowls than
I don't know about that. EMMITTT.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Smith is one of the great pass protecting, blitz pick
up running backs.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Ever.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I mean, he put the hit on the on the
linebacker the same I mean com I mean, it's I
understand what you're saying, but I think you're short change
in Emmitt a little bit here.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Emmett is a Hall of Famer for sure. But the
dynamic running ability that Barry Sanders had, I think that
basically would have electric electrified that offense more with everything
else that they had on that offense.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I mean, now, you got to get Michael Irvin to
block down the field a lot. I mean, it's it's
a difference between asking Brett Perryman to block down the
field and making sure Michael Irvin the cane blocks down
the field.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
But anyway, but Barry would have had put him behind
them running lanes provided by that Dallas offensive line. He
had gotten to the second level and I was just
game over and he's just juke and linebackers. I wish,
if only, if.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Only, I mean wish, wishful thinking, And I'm excited to
see you know that the running back position kind of
evolved again. You know, it's kind of taking the back
seat the past couple of years because of you know,
injuries and so on and so forth. But I do
think you know, the new wave of running backs. To
me watching the game last night, I believe the running
back position is slowly starting to make a comeback.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
All right, we got nine minutes with G before Tiki
calls let's fire into the Vikings and the Giants. Weather
in the Twin Cities is phenomenal on Sunday. Yeah, great,
taking child to park weather after church and get a
nice meal and everything Sunday looks like it's going to beautiful.
What are you thinking about the game from a man.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
G, Well, let's start here. Most of the conversation throughout
this preseason has been about Sam Darnold. Can get our
first chance to see him right now? Tell me what
you what you feel are reasonable expectations for Sam coming
into his first ever Viking game.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I think reasonable expectations are letting Sam get the ball
to his playmakers and not taking too many shots down
the field early. I think for Sam to get used
to this offense, you gotta trust the people around you.
Start with some you know, not screens, but quick plays
to Aaron Jones, quick hitches to Justin Jefferson, and then ultimately,
once he starts to get in the rhythm, that's where
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you start letting the ball go down the field. Maybe
Kevin O'Connell does the opposite and say, hey, let's take
some shots early, yeah, and get the nerves out. But
you know, from talking to Kurt Warner last week and
him being in a similar situation where he was the
backup quarterback for the Rams in nineteen ninety eight and
then thrust him to the start role in nineteen ninety nine,
you know, unexpectedly leading the greatest show on turf, I
think this could be something similar for Sam Darnold. Hey,
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don't be a hero out there. You got the weapons
around you. Let those guys go and make plays, and
then the offense will open up once you start to
get more comfortable. So I'm excited to see what that
can look like.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I want to talk about one of those guys to
make plays, very specifically about Jordan Addison. First, his season
last year, I think is being underappreciated by this fan base.
Nine hundred yards and ten touchdowns in the Super Bowl era, Gabe,
you want to know how you wonder how many receivers
had nine hundred yards and ten touchdowns as a rookie?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
How many?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Seven?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Seven? In fifty six years? And think about all the
rookies wide receivers. I mean there's thousands of them. Seven
of them have managed what Jordan Addison did last year.
Now you're Jordan, You've had two highly publicized bad judgment
decisions that have put a cloud over you know, the
person over who you are, but the fan base thinks
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you are. I want to believe that Jordan Addison, with TJ.
Howkinson out his that he really wants to put a
new put together, a new narrative about him being a
great football player for sure, and really being a dependable receiver.
Who is somebody that you know we can start to
reverse the narrative on And I just got I believe
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he's a human being.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
That he wants.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
He wants to get that stuff behind him and really
just show that what we saw as a rookie on
the field is who he is and that he can
get even better in year two.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
And it starts.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
It starts Sunday for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I think you know the instances that Jordan Addison has
ran into. If you're Ja, you're looking at it and saying, like, look,
this is just a small part of my story. My
future is so far. I have so much more to
accomplish in my future that I'm approved everything that I've
done in the past two years of my career. I'm
improved everyone wrong and move forward. When you look at
Jordan Adison that what he did on film last year
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speaks for itself. Well what he did this training camp,
like some of the plays he was making out there,
I'm like, dude, he's a wide receiver one on many
teams this year and to see him pair with Justin Jefferson,
full health, full strength, I'm excited to see what year
two can be like for him. Because if you're Jordan Addison,
You're like, hey, I did that, you know, nine hundred
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yards and X amount of snaps, Like I'm looking for
a thousand and Justin Jefferson is looking for two thousand
receiving yards. Why can't we do that? So I should
be very fun to see. I'm gonna bring.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
This up with Tiki, but this is the the Devin
Singletary has been in a carry split situation all of
his life. I mean Zach Moss and saw On us
on us on. But nevertheless, this he you know, bell
cow back. I guess the best way to put it,
he's he's not in a carry split situation here with
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Eric Ward and this other younger kid behind him. So
with Devon a couple of years ago, remember at Buffalo,
that that famous Buffalo game. I mean, Devin killed us.
If you look at his his carries, slash his yards.
The yards per attempt wasn't massive, but I mean those
touchdowns took place right in front of us. I mean
he looked like the fastest human on earth when he
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caught the ball and got the corner.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
He looked Cheetah fast, tyreek gilfast. Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
The charge will begin with you. Devin Singletary in a
singular role as a lead back.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Well, not a special back, you know, but an effective grinder.
They call him motor you get. You know he will,
he'll take he'll take advantage of what your offensive line
gives you, and the Giants improve their offensive line quite
a bit this offseason. And he won't make mistakes. He's
not going to give the ball away, he's not going
to fumble, he's not gonna hurt you. He also has
not ever been a contributor through the air, and that
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really should help you defensively schematically. You know that he's
not somebody that's going to be peeling out into routes
very often. He will be only really dump off you know,
dump off sake problem.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Well was a problem.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
That's a way way better receiver, and you had to
account for that. You really don't with him. You might
see little Tyrone Tracy at the third down and Tyrone Tracy,
you know, they might, they might put him into some
positions to catch passes. But what I like for the
Viking side, it's just you know what Singletary is going
to do. You know what his skill set is, and
I think that helps you prepare a little bit for
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him because he's not as dynamic as some of the
other runners.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Will see for sure. Yeah, that's one less problem that
you have to, you know, lose sleepover and now you
could kind of focus your attention on. Okay, stopping Daniel
Jones is the way to make the most and get
over this offense. And yeah, they have Milik Neighbors, and
I believe he's going to be a phenomenal receiver down
the league. But when it comes to getting the ball
to Mylik Neighbors, they got to run the ball first.
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And if this Minnesota Vikings team can handle that, I
believe everything else will open up for our defense, which
ultimately gives our offense the ball and winning that time
of possession. If you're this New York Giants team that
I believe that the last week that they beat us,
the time of possession in twenty twenty two, that wildcard
game was astronomical.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Then the thing that wended, Yeah, wow, it's crazy, right
they never punted. Daniel Jones ran seventeen times in that game. Yeah,
I mean I think it's seventeen, but he ran twenty
eight like in the two against US that year.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, he ran for over one hundred yards and both
of those games combined, and that that Wildcard game, the
time of possession was just out of this world. So
if we can stop the run, Devin Singletary and don't
let Daniel Jones get comfortable. That's a recipe, recipe for
success for our defense.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
But see Buller. Buller's really good against the run, kay,
that's his bit. Strong, hold the point, good against the run,
help others feed. As they say in the business, Harrison
Phillips is high end against the run now.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
And this is with no.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Disrespect to a guy I adore Jordan Hicks, but it's
a run stopping upgrade with Blake Cashman. I mean, now
you've got Cashman and Ivan Pace Junior, and then these
good safeties behind him. So Quasi's done a good job
squaring up at least the interior of the run defense.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I'm excited about it. And then Blake Cashman just what
he provides as far as a linebacker that can blitz,
a linebacker that can stop the run, someone that could
you know when he has the opportunity to run free
alongside Ivan Pace. That makes this entire defense better. So
I'm excited that we got Jonathan Buller back. Harrison Phillips.
It's a contract year for him, so you know, every
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guy that's in a contract year, they're going to make
better plays that year because they know they gotta figure
out what the next contract is going to be. So
I'm excited to see both of those guys stop the
run and our linebackers behind those two play fast. And
we haven't even talked about our outside linebackers.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
If they're playing fast, the back end is playing fun.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
The question is from where will they be playing fast
because there could be certain situations. You've got Grenard here,
you got Van Ginkel there. Oh, in the middle, you
got Patrick Jones and Dallas Turner mugging the eight gap
threatening to come through between the gard and the center.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
There's a lot of versatility that our defense has. And
Brian Flores, if you're him, you're licking your tops, especially
week one, having everyone as healthy as they're ever going
to be for the entire rest of the season. So
you're fantastic. Thank you very much for the time.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Generally this will be two segments, but you've got Tiaki
and I know you. I mean, you've got Tea getting
one way or another. Yeah, of course you get it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
So I'm glad. I'm glad you stop by it. Thank
you very much.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Jaming Hey, Cape Henderson, Ladies and gentlemen, round of applause.
My main man right here, really good at what he does.
When when we return, uh, we're going to get a
phone call from the greatest running back in the history
of New York Giants football.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And they've had a hundre. They're there.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
They've had ninety nine years of football. Tiki Barber joins
nine to noon. Next nine to noon, Goo, good stuff,
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Welcome back to the Friday Football Feast at Buffalo Wild Wings, Oakdale,
Paul Charchi and Paul Allen. And now, as we've mentioned
several times during the course of the radio show, today,
the greatest running back in the history of New York
Giants football is Tiki Barber with forty nine rushing yards.
My man had sixty eight touchdowns during his career in
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the regular season. One of them was a pump return
and had a wonderful ten year run with the Big Blue.
Assists to Robbie Rosenhouse for this and here he is. Hello, Tiki,
Welcome to the Friday Football Feast. Good to chat with you.
How are you.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Appreciate you having me, Paul, I'm doing well, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Right o.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Man got a co host Paul Charchian and It's one
hundred season for New York Giants football this year, and
Tiki took part in ten percent of it. What I'm
just going to open it like this, Well, simply because
it's football immortality here man, one hundred seasons and you're
part of it, like with the market and the media
market and everything, and just being a giant. Like, what
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was it like spending your entire career with the New
York Giants.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
That's cold.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yeah, it was a blessing.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
And you realize after you get a little bit into
the league four or five years in and then you
start to find some success, how blessed it is that
you're amongst some of the greats. And I was lucky
because a lot of the legends that were hanging around.
Rosie Brown would come around and Frank Gifford, So I
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got a chance.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
To chat with a lot of these guys.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Ron Johnson who was another running back back in the day,
and just get to absorb a little bit of the
history and then to go on and be a part
of it. After having a pretty good career for a decade,
you shouldalize how important this game is to the city
that we lived in. And I guess that's the case
for all major sports in all big cities. It becomes
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a part of the fabric of people's lives and to be,
you know, one of those that made brought some smiles
on Sunday afternoons and you know, lasting memories for a
lot of people. It's special and it's special to think about.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Tiki pal ch Archie. Great to meet you. You played
ten years for the same team. Undoubtedly you had opportunities
to play elsewhere, but it feels like, you know, because
you did the ten years with one team, which is
like you know, one percent of NFL players, you just
become intrinsically linked with that team. And I got to
believe at the end of the day that you could
have squeaked out a little more money going to I
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don't know, Carolina or something, you know, but you'll get
to forever be a New York Giant. Tell me a
little bit about ten years with the same team.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Yeah, it's interesting because I was a free agent right
after we went to the Super Bowl at two thousand
and Obviously that game was was brutal for us. The Ravens,
with one of the greatest defense in the history of
the league, absolutely muled US. But my free agent year
happened right then, and that was right when I was
coming into my own Irons had just drafted the Heisman
Trophy winner in Ron Daine, So in a sense, it
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was a replacement, you know, thought.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
In my mind.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
But after, you know, having the success that we had
that year, I didn't want to go anywhere else, and
I knew that there were other options out there, but
being in New York and thriving in New York was
it just felt special. I actually lived in the city,
and unlike most players, I lived in New York City
on the Upper East Side, so I got to experience this,
I don't know, the majesty of being a star in
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New York City.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It was.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
It was really really cool. It never really crossed my
mind and want to play anywhere else, and I think,
you know, as I look back on it, that was special.
It's interesting because my brother, I difficult twin brother.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
The same thing.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Sixteen years he played down in Tampa Bay and I
don't think he ever thought about leaving. And now, you know,
both of us are six months away from fifty years old.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
He's still the mayor down there.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
He's done everything right. Championship he's been there for sixteen years.
You run golf tournaments. He has recently got into the
Hall of Fame. It's when you can connect with a
new home and it becomes your home. New York, New
Jersey area I live in New Jersey now has become
my home. It's like Tampa has become Rende's home, not Rono, Virginia,
where we grew up. And it's our families are in
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these in these areas, and we're part of the fabric
of it, and it really is special.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
You're right.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
I had chances to leave, but I never really wanted to.
I think I saw how special it was to be
in New York.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Well a tiki.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
You mentioned ron Day and you mentioned how things change,
and you know you're in your tenth year, you're a
running back and you've.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Taken a fair amount of hits.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I just it's it's fascinating, man, because it doesn't happen
for people like this.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Your final two games, I.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Mean, I think the final regular season game was against Washington.
You might have gone for two twenty four franchise, Rightford.
Then in the playoffs, Okay, you lose and you're not
Oh we lost, but I got mine you're not like that.
You want the team to win. But still in your
final two games, man, you went for three hundred and
seventy one rushing yards and walked away from the game.
I mean you had the second Guess it just a little.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Bit right.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Now, I never really did. I mean my penultimate year
in five, which was my best year of my of
my career, I had almost twenty four hundred od purpose yards.
I had four hundred and four or four hundred and
five touches or something like that. The following year was
it was right up there as well, three hundred and
eighty touches or something. I was just getting beat up nowadays,
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just for you know, comparisons sake. Nowadays, running backs except
for Derrick Henry maybe they get three hundred touches total.
And so it was. It was a grind on my body,
and I could feel myself slowing down. Seventy eighty yard
runs from three or four years ago were becoming twenty
yard runs and getting caught, and like my body just
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wasn't wasn't, wasn't as durable as it had won to bend.
And then on top of that, the preparation that it
took to get ready for a season. I just wasn't
committed to and I wasn't going to be that guy
who just hung around, as Paul was.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Saying earlier, just hung around.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
To collect a paycheck and see what happened. If I
wasn't fully committed to it, I was going to go
do something else. Fortunately for me, and this probably ties
into being a New Yorker and living in the city,
there was so many opportunities for me to do other things,
whether it was on the entrepreneurial side or getting into media.
I mean, I left the NFL and went and worked
for the Today Show, and so it was. I felt
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that the opportunities outside of the game were more important
to me at that moment of my life where I
was about to be thirty two years old.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Well, that's self awareness at the end of something fun
many lacked. And this is Teaky Barber at Tiki Barber
via Twitter. If you're interested greatest running back in the
history of Giants, Football, Vikings and Giants This weekend, we'll
get into that momentarily over the final five or six
minutes with Tiki.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
TI a topic that honestly we don't like to talk
about here, but you'll enjoy more. Let's talk about what
we call forty one doughnuts out here in this town.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Vikings you know out there.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Yeah, it's not a good memory for you guys, but
it really is very good for you guys.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
You know, we rolled the Vikings rolled into that game
as prohibitive favorites. It looked like one of the you know,
the great offenses of all time, and you guys completely
shut down the Vikings offensively and defensively. How at what
point of that game did you realize the Vikings had
no shot that you guys were going to run away
with this game.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I got to tell you, honestly, we knew before the game.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
And it was all because of philosophy.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
So so philosophically, how the Minnesota Vikings did you guys
remember that year? They would you beat up on people,
you get up on teams, and then it was they
had to pass Randy Moss, would you know, go score
touchdown and Donte Copet or big get like all this
big stuff would happen for the Vikings offensively and then
defensively they would just tee off and take advantage of offenses.
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And that we're desperate to catch up, and so because
we had a defensive first team. We knew our philosophy
was just hit Randy Moss.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Hit him as hard.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
As you can, as often as you can, and get
him frustrated, and then ultimately that's going to derail the offense.
And all we got to do is score a couple
of touchdowns and then we'll be in the driver's seat.
And Sean Payton is you guys remember may may or
may not remember with our offensive coordinator and the first
meeting on Mondays. We came in before the championship game
and he said to us.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
We are going to throw for three hundred yards in
the first half. And we're all looking at each other like,
what what the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (32:45):
He said, go watch them on tape. When they have
to play defense, they get exposed. And so we knew
that all we had to do was create some some
big plays and we could expose the Viking secondary. And
that's exactly what happened. We score right away with the
with the wheel route to Greg Kamela down the sidelines
of the bus to coverage by the second level of
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the Vikings, and then the kickoff they got You got
fumbled the kickoff and it put us right back in
scoring position, and so those those like we got ahead.
It was it fit our game plan exactly, and then
we were able to tee off on Randy Moss and
frustrated the Vikings offense. And honestly, the.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Game was over before halftime.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
We we just knew that we that we had the
edge and the home crowd and the Old Giant Stadium,
the Intimate Giant Stadium. The new MetLife Stadium is too fast,
like the fans are too far away from the field,
so you don't feel it the same way. But that
Old Giant Stadium was was rocking like I've never seen
it before.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I mean, it's it's immortality with the stories, man, I
mean like they opened two doors and then the wind
changes the game you got ten feet below. I mean,
it's it's it's immortality. You don't have to tell us. Hey,
a couple more here for tiky Barbara okay uh to
Sunday's game and and low key Tikey. I'm kind of
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a Devin Singletary fan, and just simply because he's gassing
and I've just always liked, like, like appreciated what he's
done with what he has, and now he's he's not
going to be cutting carries with what James Cook, Zach Moss, whomever.
So so Devin, you know, he's the lead back here.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
What do you think he is?
Speaker 5 (34:26):
He is? And the thing I like most about Devin
and we called a couple of his games our CBS
crew when he was in Houston last year, and he
kind of supplanted Damian Pierce, who was the starter there
when Damien got hurt and Damon got healthy. But Devin
Singletary was just more effective.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Even though he's not a big runner.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
He always finishes forward. He's that kind of player that
can that's going to get positive yard. He's never losing
ground to try to hit the big play. He's very
efficient and how he and how he moves. And maybe
he'll get challenged a little bit by Tyrone Tracy, who
is a former wide receiver. We drafted him in the
fifth round this year. He's got great hands and he's
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dynamic until but you're right, Devin is going to be
the ball carrier.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
And it takes me back to kind of when my era.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
You know, a smaller back who's who's strong enough and
willing enough to run between the tackles, but can do
so many diverse things, and we're gonna need him to
do that because the offensive line has been historically and
I mean by historical for the last decade the issue
for the Giants. Now it's gotten a little bit better
with you know, some free agent signings Jermaine iluminor who's
going to start a right tackle when John Runyon came
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from Green Bay is going to be at left guard,
so it feels more veteran. But if it has to
be more balanced offensively for the Giants, and with Malik
Neighbors hopefully being that deep threat that he long desired
since the Odell Beckham junior days, hopefully we can find
some balance offensively.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Last one for takey, wrap it up, charge Tik.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
The Giants made a controversial decision to draft Neighbors, which
really helped men that they double down on Daniel Jones
and Neighbors looks like he's going to be great, but
it's he's still not a quarterback, and it's still not
clear if Daniel Jones is requisite of an NFL quarterback.
So how do you feel about that decision by the
front office?
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Yeah, I mean, I think it was just going to
be prohibitively expensive because of all the other needs that
the Giants had in the draft to give away, whether
it was a third or fourth rounder, to move up
and go get one of those quarterbacks. And we all
know now because we're seeing how many of these guys
are starting, and I think JJ would have started for
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you guys if he had gotten hurt. You have to
find your quarterback. You have to find that guy who
you can build build around. And you know, when I
think about Daniel, the circumstances are similar to Sam. Now,
Sam's early history was just it was terrible with Todd
Bowles getting fired and then Adam Gates coming in, and
even Adam Gates at the end of his ten years
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basically say I failed Sam, and he was right. When
you have to switch coordinator so many times and systems
changed over and over again, it's almost impossible for quarterbacks
to be successful. And Daniel Jones hasn't had it to
the extent that Sam has, but it has been that
way the Giants went through. This is his third coach
and his fourth coordinator, Daniel Jones, and he's had health
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issues and so the challenge and the frustration for frustrating
part for Giants fans is that they really like Daniels right.
They saw early in his career that he could be
a guy who pushes the ball downfield. I mean, he
didn't get that nicknamed Danny Dimes to college. That came
from his first year in the NFL with the Giants.
But it's been so hard for him to establish himself
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and six years.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
In Giants fans still don't know And.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Think about that, six years in with the same quarterback,
and you still don't know who gets that amount of time,
No one, And so it's it's it's to hold your breast.
Let's hope that we get the Danny Dimes, Daniel Jones
and not guy who can't be consistently on the field.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
But because I think.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
If you do get the Daniel zones from twenty twenty
two where he led the league in turnover ratio meeting
lowest turnover ratio with Jalen Hurt, then the Giants offensively
can be good and defensively they can be impactful. But
it's there's so many like little question marks, not huge ones,
but just like little question marks surrounding him that make
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it hard to just really believe that this success is
right around the corner.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
So it's almost like you got to just wait and see,
and nobody likes being and waiting and seeing as a fan.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Take you, that was spectacular. Bless you, my man. Likewise
for your twin and have a great weekend and hopefully
we catch up soon.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Okay, well, certainly be well, guys.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Take care, Bud.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Thanks Dicky Jack Jarber. That was awesome.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, you can tell he owes his own show on Wfan.
You know he can carry a conversation, right, Yeah, fairly
sharp guy, Thank you, robbing all right. Nine to Noon
continues with a covenant quickie around the corner. Than Ya,
Young Alex.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Alex lewis with the athletic He joins us at Buffalo
Wild Wings, Oakdale for the first Feast year fifteen for
the Friday Football Feast Fantasy Football Beast nine to noon
at Buffalo Wild Wings, Oakdale. Paul Charchian and yours truly,
Paul Allen. Can you start any or all of these
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three highly highly drafted and talented rookie receivers, Let's say
Marvin Harrison Junior at Lake Neighbors, Rome Madons.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
A Neighbors to me is the most fascinating because there's
so many questions about the Vikings cornerbacks right, A lot
of tumult here, a lot of change. You know, we
don't know where Shack Griffin is in his career cycle.
Stephan Gilmour. We hope he's still got good play left
in him. And we think Neighbors is going to be
a magnet for targets like week one. Yeah, they've got
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they have other quasi interesting receivers. Wendale Robinson is stuff,
but Neighbors is the future and I wouldn't be spied.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
They pepper him a lot, so I like him.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Here, Roma Dunsay's fascinating goes up against Tennessee. Tennessee got
Lugerious Snead a very good cornerback for the Chiefs in
free agency. He's really their only good cornerback and he's
gonna be on DJ Moore. Roma Dunsay is going to
run free against inferior coverage for Tennessee. I'm kind of
optimistic about him.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
What what do you think of Tony Pollard? Tony Pollard
in that game against the Bears.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Not a I'm not feeling very optimistic when they needed
Pollard in Dallas last year. In a variety of different roles,
but primarily as their lead back.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
The dude was a big l first year off a
bad injury. Well that was last year.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, you know it wasn't like acl you know, I
really we all expected more and better things never came together.
Tajay Spears to me, is the better, more dynamic back,
and Pollard might be the starter just from veteran's equity,
but Spears is the is the more interesting of the
of the two for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Do you like do you like White with Tampa Bay?
And what do you think of Bucky Irving the backup?
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Well, to the surprise of most of us, Rashad White
catches too right, He does catch. He is an accomplished
pass catcher, and he is a he turned last year.
He was there to do everything back and really a workhorse.
They never had to go much into their depth chart.
They drafted Bucky Irving, former Gopher, who is a straight ahead,
shifty runner, more more, much more of a power runner
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than White is m and it looks like Bucky Irvin's
going to have a bigger role than most of us
thought he was going to have. The coaching staff came
out this week and said, we're gonna use both guys,
and we might use a hotthand and you know we're like, wow, okay,
this could be a situation that could be developing in
Bucky Irving's
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Favor Vikings Giants analysis in the Final Hour with Alec
Lewis with The Athletic when we returned to Buffalo Wild Wings,
Oakdale on Ka
Let's fan the flames here at Buffalo Wild Wings, Oakdale. Hey,
Ladies and gentlemen from Vikings dot Com and the Vikings
Entertainment Network. Love this man, Gabe Henderson. Ladies and gentlemen,
part of the Feast Mix on a weekly basis. Alex
Lewis will be here with the Athletic at eleven o'clock
and good morning, how are you g.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm good, I'm good. You talk about my liberty flames.
This week we got New Mexico State and then next
week we got Aaron Jones's UTEP. Oh. Yeah, hoping to
get in to that. I know a lot of people
were saying last year was a fluke going to the
Fiesta Bowl. But you know, with teams, with the playoff
system expanding the twelve teams, Yeah, I like our chances
this year, all right.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And in between you and Alex Lewis is the greatest
running back in the history of New York Giants football,
Tiki Barber joining the radio show.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
With an assist to our friend KF A N and
kt OK's Robbie Rosenhows to put that thing together. Oh
what do you remember about Tiki anything?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
He was a tough runner. So I think a lot
of people know I grew up. I grew up a
Cowboys fan, so I hated the Giants. I hated I
can't think of last name. Jacob's Brandon Jacob.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
But what was the They were not thunder and Lightning?
There was something else. What were they?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I can't think of the name off the top of
my head.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
What were they? Somebody helped me with this, Brandon Jacob.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Was it thunder and Lightning?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I don't think it was. I think it was there
was something different but maybe right.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
But just thinking about how hard and tough that they ran,
it was like, how are they getting this many yards?
And Tiki Barber, I think you were like number forty one,
like it was one one, yeah, something something along those lines.
And I was like, how how is this guy who
is so shifty making all these guys miss? Like how
is he doing? And then you got to respect this game.
And I love the fact that he's going to be
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joining the show. I think that's a that's a really
good get. His brother t run Da Barber, really good running,
really good safety for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Both two
really good career. So my memories revolve around not liking
those guys as I grew up a Cowboys fan, but
I respected how how he played.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
And you know, Tik, we'll talk about a Tiki when
he comes on. But ten years, same team.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
You know, that's it. You have to be really good
for a team to want you for a decade, to
be able to play effectively for a decade and be
with one team. I just think, you know, there's something special.
Look at Chad Greenway. There's something special that happens between
you and your fan base when you start an end
your career in the same place. And it doesn't mean
that you can't still be beloved by your you know,
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by the fan base if you go somewhere else at
the very end of your career. We still love Chris Carter,
but when you don't think of him as a dolphin.
But man, I don't know. I just think there's something
that that's really special when you have the opportunity to
go other places, maybe even take more money, but you
choose to stay with one organization, just become iconic with
that organization.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, I've had a few conversations with players that have
been on one team for a long time and then
ultimately they went to another team towards the end of
their career because they didn't want to take a pay cut.
And the rhetoric that I got back in the feedback
that I got back from those players, it's like, man,
I wish I would have just stayed with that team.
Like money. You know, money does talk, but sometimes the
grass isn't always greener on the other side. And Harrison
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Smith for example, c J. Hanford for an example, Like,
when you think about both of those guys' career, you're
always going to think about them as Minnesota Vikings and
just thinking about the long term effect they've had on
this fan base. This is something that they will never forget.
So I'm excited to see both of those guys stay
here in Purple for you know, the foreseeable future.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
All Right, So I have that big cartoon character smile
on my face because something just just clicked with me
that we have we have a new new individual here
who hasn't heard a couple of stories that I've shared
fifteen times on KFAM and one of them involves Dexter Lawrence. Okay,
all right, Gabe's mom not only babysat Chris Paul Okay,
(03:56):
the Chris Paul all, yep, but she.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Taught Dexter Lawrence how to drive.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Unreal, It was most of that Zachary, my mentor in
North Carolina, right, yeah, And like they put Dexter Lawrence
in this tiny little car man and.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
He was shooes.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Likenes were up in the dashboard the passenger seat. There
was literally a dent in the glove compartment from Dexter
Lawrence sitting out the front seat.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
And the shots are ruined and it's going down the
road listing heavily to one side.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But see, Gabe has such unbelievable stories that he doesn't
think about.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So like, I'm getting a no, Gabe.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
A couple of years ago, we're out at TCO Radio
studios and he just in passing is like, oh yeah,
my mom babysack wrist Paul.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I'm like, well, how did I never know that?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Oh yeah, my mentor uh in this area taught Dexter
Lawrence to drive.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Like I went to Ronald Curry's basketball I'm like, are
you kidding me? With his unbelievable story for you?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So you remember Josh Howard, I played basketball a week
cour Oh yeah, And Lifford Dallas. He was good for
Dallas Mavericks. My mom grew up across the street from
his mom, so we've we've known that family for a
while too. And just he's really involved in the community.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I know a lot of people haven't heard from him
since those Dallak Maverick days. But North Carolina is such
a small community that when you have someone who makes
it out like everyone kind of leans on that person
as like, hope, So Dexter Lawrence was that guy. Nahim
Hines and Cleveland It's crazy. Uh, those two guys they
were close growing up. And Dexter Lawrence Keith Marshall they
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played together for the same high school team. Wow, and
they both played in the NFL. So it's a it's
a small, close knit community and l it'll be fun
watching Dexter Lawrence on TV on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I hope it's fun watching Dexter Lawrence on TV on Sunday.
Is this is this is the A topic of the
game is Dexter Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Me, And if I'm not having fun watching Dexter Lawrence,
it means he's sacking my quarterback.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
See charge is so well, Lawrence is formidable out love him,
always have. But Charge is so wharry and and and
respectful of Dexter Lawrence on a Friday into a Sunday
that when we started the show, he's like, well, the
a topic is the four guys who are going to
be rushing Darnold, and then he mentioned Burns, tippo'deau and Lawrence.
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I'm like, where's the fourth Ordy account? Dexter isn't two
because he's that big him that good he.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Goes, I do he takes up two gaps. I mean,
think about how big he is and that the interior
push that he gets on a consistent basis. I think
that's something that this Minnesota Vikings offensive line has to
take into account. Look, our book ends Christian Darisol and
Brian O'Neill, if Kevon Tippodeau and Brian Burns Alando one
on one. We expect you guys to manhandle those guys
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one on one and ultimately let our interior guys worry
about Dexter Lawrence and that second guy and or my
blitzerer coming from that interior. So it'll be an interesting matchup.
I love the fact that Garrett Bradbury kind of gets
some get back on Dexter Lawrence. He's already seeing him twice. Ye,
that play from two years ago still stands out in
people's minds. And you look at how Garrett Bradberry bounced
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back last year, having that, in my opinion, a really
good year, probably his best year of his career last
year to get that opportunity again against Dexter Lawrence full health, Yeah,
to start the season off.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, you know, I'm
just I'm real. I'm just I'm hopeful. That isn't how
the game gets.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So you can't single Dexter you know, I mean Dexter
Lawrence in that playoff game had one quarterback hit one
and it was the final play of the season, you know,
So they did a pretty good job against him, but
he's the a topic they should which means doubles right
for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And when you look at Blick back at that twenty
two film Dexter Lawrence, his main priority was just stopping
to run. They weren't getting much pass for USh. She
saw a lot of landing collins blitzing and a lot
of you know, stunts and blazers. Because dex Lawrence is
going to take up two offensive linemen and then that
last driver of the game. It's like, okay, well we'll
let you loose, go do your thing. And it really
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shows the amount of trust they have in Dexa Lawrence,
both in the past rush and the run defense. So
are very excited to see.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Okay, So Dave Handlin superstats, Dave Alan Horten's right hand
man and home games, he tweeted all of us thunder
and Lightning was Ron Dane and Dankie Barber. So you
were right, yep, But I can't say I remember this name.
Brandon Jacobs, Derek Ward and a mad Brad Job. I
remember all that, but they were earth winding fire.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I did not remember that. But okay, yeah, the earth
bring fire. So Brandon Jacobs was a freaking beast.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
He was.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
He was like really mini Derrick Henry before Derrick Henry.
He had that kind of build and that kind of
power and when he got when he got that big
running lane and just had that full mass going forward,
Oh what a beast.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I mean he was the I mean because that's when
Eddie George was storting, starting to get closer to the
end of his career, and then Brandon Jacobs kind of
picked up the big running back steam where it's like, oh, well,
big running backs are still alive. And to see how
that's kind of transpired into today's running backs with Derrick Here,
Derek Henry, Najee Harris and so on and so forth.
I really love that that lineage when it comes to
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keeping those big running backs alive. Was he with Brandon Jacobs?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I believe he was at Southern Illinois, but he might
have started looting at Alabama and and I think he
might have been at Alabama with Cadillac Williams. They had
three of them. I can't remember the other one. You're right,
you're right.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
There was some other cat will somebody else.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That Auburn, Right, Auburn, Thank you Auburn william Because both
of those running backs played for that I can't think
of the other one played for the Miami Dolphins with
Ricky Williams. M I can't Brown Ronnie Brown, ron Brown there.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, like back you know, back in the day Southern
Methodist University there, their backfield was called the Pony Express
and it was Craig James blocking for Eric Dickerson. Craig
James ended up having a wonderful career. How about you know,
running back dapting college. I mean, it's like it always
starts and stops for me. With the Miami Hurricanes when
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they had well, you know, Clinton Portis, Yep, I think
I think they had like Clinton Portis Edger and j
Willis McGahee, Willis mcgabe, Yeah, Frank Gore. Eventually after that, Ye, Frank.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I think Frank Gore was coming off the bench that year, wow,
and it were so deep. That same year Sean Taylor
was coming off the bench backing up Ed Reid and people,
I mean, and Devin Hester was a corner and Roscoe
Parrish was playing. Wow, what a punt returner he was
in college?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Who was the It was Barry Sanders And.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Who Klahoma's state? Yeah, isn't it Ed McCaffrey. Wasn't Christian
McCaffrey's dad.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
At running back?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
There was? It was?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
It was Barry Sanders. And there was another running back
that was also I swear that was also very very good.
But then there was Barry Sanders. Yeah, obliterates everybody. Yes,
I swear that's the case.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And I love the fact off you know, how we're
talking about these these running backs are back in the day,
and you look at the modern day running back and
they always said they modeled their game out for those guys.
And you see, I mean looking at last night's game, right,
what's his name, man Isaiah Pacheco. Yeah, just that entire
Chiefs offense. Like they still have the balance and the
jews and the dukes that those holdes running backs have.
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But the speed Thurman Thomas.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Orman Thomas, that that was it.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Barry Sanders played with Thomas. Are you pudding me that? Thomas?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
And you're the second beat running back on your team.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That's a that's a that's a heck of a roster.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You know, Gabe, who nobody ever says, I model my
game after it's Barry Sanders, because you can't you modeled
your game after Barry Sanders.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
He's one of one, fun of one, one of one.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
There.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
There's I think it's going to be hard for us
to get another running back in the league similar to
Barry Sanders. Like Christian McCaffrey has some s to it,
you know, the balance and the dukes, but he's still
not in that same conversation as Barry Sanders.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
But yeah, to the modern day running back, well, coaches
this day and age would never let anybody play like
Barry Sanders, you know what I'm saying, running backwards and yeah,
it's like, bro, I mean, come on, I mean this
is great and everything, and you know what, Yeah, you
did get thirty five out of it, But here was
the hole right here and then CJ paved the way
with all you have to take, you know, which is
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the right way to go about it. But there are
just certain things in this day and age of the
NFL that I'm telling.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
You coaches just would not allow. Yeah, I mean the
game now is northeast and west. You don't go south.
And Barry Sanders went south before anyway he went.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
He did a lot, a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And it worked. It worked for that for that you
know Detroit Lions team and that Silver Dome. I just
ended up fit. I actually just finished watching that Barry
Sanders documentary the other day, which is which is really good.
Talked about why he retired, which we still don't know why.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Well so they didn't say, and that he didn't say
in the documentary. Really, Barry's tricky, he is, but it
has to be the fact that he was the best
running back maybe ever and they put nothing around him
for his whole career. Terrible offensive line, no quarterbacking. I mean,
I just at some point, the assumption is that he
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just got frustrated with all the losing and the lack
of support around him.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Put Barry Sanders on that same Emmitt Smith Cowboys team.
Oh god, the Cowboys win way more Super Bowls than
I don't know about that. EMMITTT.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Smith is one of the great pass protecting, blitz pick
up running backs.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Ever.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I mean, he put the hit on the on the
linebacker the same I mean com I mean, it's I
understand what you're saying, but I think you're short change
in Emmitt a little bit here.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Emmett is a Hall of Famer for sure. But the
dynamic running ability that Barry Sanders had, I think that
basically would have electric electrified that offense more with everything
else that they had on that offense.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I mean, now, you got to get Michael Irvin to
block down the field a lot. I mean, it's it's
a difference between asking Brett Perryman to block down the
field and making sure Michael Irvin the cane blocks down
the field.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
But anyway, but Barry would have had put him behind
them running lanes provided by that Dallas offensive line. He
had gotten to the second level and I was just
game over and he's just juke and linebackers. I wish,
if only, if.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Only, I mean wish, wishful thinking, And I'm excited to
see you know that the running back position kind of
evolved again. You know, it's kind of taking the back
seat the past couple of years because of you know,
injuries and so on and so forth. But I do
think you know, the new wave of running backs. To
me watching the game last night, I believe the running
back position is slowly starting to make a comeback.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
All right, we got nine minutes with G before Tiki
calls let's fire into the Vikings and the Giants. Weather
in the Twin Cities is phenomenal on Sunday. Yeah, great,
taking child to park weather after church and get a
nice meal and everything Sunday looks like it's going to beautiful.
What are you thinking about the game from a man.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
G, Well, let's start here. Most of the conversation throughout
this preseason has been about Sam Darnold. Can get our
first chance to see him right now? Tell me what
you what you feel are reasonable expectations for Sam coming
into his first ever Viking game.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I think reasonable expectations are letting Sam get the ball
to his playmakers and not taking too many shots down
the field early. I think for Sam to get used
to this offense, you gotta trust the people around you.
Start with some you know, not screens, but quick plays
to Aaron Jones, quick hitches to Justin Jefferson, and then ultimately,
once he starts to get in the rhythm, that's where
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you start letting the ball go down the field. Maybe
Kevin O'Connell does the opposite and say, hey, let's take
some shots early, yeah, and get the nerves out. But
you know, from talking to Kurt Warner last week and
him being in a similar situation where he was the
backup quarterback for the Rams in nineteen ninety eight and
then thrust him to the start role in nineteen ninety nine,
you know, unexpectedly leading the greatest show on turf, I
think this could be something similar for Sam Darnold. Hey,
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don't be a hero out there. You got the weapons
around you. Let those guys go and make plays, and
then the offense will open up once you start to
get more comfortable. So I'm excited to see what that
can look like.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I want to talk about one of those guys to
make plays, very specifically about Jordan Addison. First, his season
last year, I think is being underappreciated by this fan base.
Nine hundred yards and ten touchdowns in the Super Bowl era, Gabe,
you want to know how you wonder how many receivers
had nine hundred yards and ten touchdowns as a rookie?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
How many?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Seven?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Seven? In fifty six years? And think about all the
rookies wide receivers. I mean there's thousands of them. Seven
of them have managed what Jordan Addison did last year.
Now you're Jordan, You've had two highly publicized bad judgment
decisions that have put a cloud over you know, the
person over who you are, but the fan base thinks
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you are. I want to believe that Jordan Addison, with TJ.
Howkinson out his that he really wants to put a
new put together, a new narrative about him being a
great football player for sure, and really being a dependable receiver.
Who is somebody that you know we can start to
reverse the narrative on And I just got I believe
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he's a human being.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
That he wants.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
He wants to get that stuff behind him and really
just show that what we saw as a rookie on
the field is who he is and that he can
get even better in year two.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
And it starts.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
It starts Sunday for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I think you know the instances that Jordan Addison has
ran into. If you're Ja, you're looking at it and saying, like, look,
this is just a small part of my story. My
future is so far. I have so much more to
accomplish in my future that I'm approved everything that I've
done in the past two years of my career. I'm
improved everyone wrong and move forward. When you look at
Jordan Adison that what he did on film last year
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speaks for itself. Well what he did this training camp,
like some of the plays he was making out there,
I'm like, dude, he's a wide receiver one on many
teams this year and to see him pair with Justin Jefferson,
full health, full strength, I'm excited to see what year
two can be like for him. Because if you're Jordan Addison,
You're like, hey, I did that, you know, nine hundred
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yards and X amount of snaps, Like I'm looking for
a thousand and Justin Jefferson is looking for two thousand
receiving yards. Why can't we do that? So I should
be very fun to see. I'm gonna bring.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
This up with Tiki, but this is the the Devin
Singletary has been in a carry split situation all of
his life. I mean Zach Moss and saw On us
on us on. But nevertheless, this he you know, bell
cow back. I guess the best way to put it,
he's he's not in a carry split situation here with
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Eric Ward and this other younger kid behind him. So
with Devon a couple of years ago, remember at Buffalo,
that that famous Buffalo game. I mean, Devin killed us.
If you look at his his carries, slash his yards.
The yards per attempt wasn't massive, but I mean those
touchdowns took place right in front of us. I mean
he looked like the fastest human on earth when he
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caught the ball and got the corner.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
He looked Cheetah fast, tyreek gilfast. Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
The charge will begin with you. Devin Singletary in a
singular role as a lead back.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Well, not a special back, you know, but an effective grinder.
They call him motor you get. You know he will,
he'll take he'll take advantage of what your offensive line
gives you, and the Giants improve their offensive line quite
a bit this offseason. And he won't make mistakes. He's
not going to give the ball away, he's not going
to fumble, he's not gonna hurt you. He also has
not ever been a contributor through the air, and that
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really should help you defensively schematically. You know that he's
not somebody that's going to be peeling out into routes
very often. He will be only really dump off you know,
dump off sake problem.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Well was a problem.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
That's a way way better receiver, and you had to
account for that. You really don't with him. You might
see little Tyrone Tracy at the third down and Tyrone Tracy,
you know, they might, they might put him into some
positions to catch passes. But what I like for the
Viking side, it's just you know what Singletary is going
to do. You know what his skill set is, and
I think that helps you prepare a little bit for
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him because he's not as dynamic as some of the
other runners.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Will see for sure. Yeah, that's one less problem that
you have to, you know, lose sleepover and now you
could kind of focus your attention on. Okay, stopping Daniel
Jones is the way to make the most and get
over this offense. And yeah, they have Milik Neighbors, and
I believe he's going to be a phenomenal receiver down
the league. But when it comes to getting the ball
to Mylik Neighbors, they got to run the ball first.
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And if this Minnesota Vikings team can handle that, I
believe everything else will open up for our defense, which
ultimately gives our offense the ball and winning that time
of possession. If you're this New York Giants team that
I believe that the last week that they beat us,
the time of possession in twenty twenty two, that wildcard
game was astronomical.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Then the thing that wended, Yeah, wow, it's crazy, right
they never punted. Daniel Jones ran seventeen times in that game. Yeah,
I mean I think it's seventeen, but he ran twenty
eight like in the two against US that year.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, he ran for over one hundred yards and both
of those games combined, and that that Wildcard game, the
time of possession was just out of this world. So
if we can stop the run, Devin Singletary and don't
let Daniel Jones get comfortable. That's a recipe, recipe for
success for our defense.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
But see Buller. Buller's really good against the run, kay,
that's his bit. Strong, hold the point, good against the run,
help others feed. As they say in the business, Harrison
Phillips is high end against the run now.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
And this is with no.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Disrespect to a guy I adore Jordan Hicks, but it's
a run stopping upgrade with Blake Cashman. I mean, now
you've got Cashman and Ivan Pace Junior, and then these
good safeties behind him. So Quasi's done a good job
squaring up at least the interior of the run defense.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I'm excited about it. And then Blake Cashman just what
he provides as far as a linebacker that can blitz,
a linebacker that can stop the run, someone that could
you know when he has the opportunity to run free
alongside Ivan Pace. That makes this entire defense better. So
I'm excited that we got Jonathan Buller back. Harrison Phillips.
It's a contract year for him, so you know, every
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guy that's in a contract year, they're going to make
better plays that year because they know they gotta figure
out what the next contract is going to be. So
I'm excited to see both of those guys stop the
run and our linebackers behind those two play fast. And
we haven't even talked about our outside linebackers.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
If they're playing fast, the back end is playing fun.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
The question is from where will they be playing fast
because there could be certain situations. You've got Grenard here,
you got Van Ginkel there. Oh, in the middle, you
got Patrick Jones and Dallas Turner mugging the eight gap
threatening to come through between the gard and the center.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
There's a lot of versatility that our defense has. And
Brian Flores, if you're him, you're licking your tops, especially
week one, having everyone as healthy as they're ever going
to be for the entire rest of the season. So
you're fantastic. Thank you very much for the time.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Generally this will be two segments, but you've got Tiaki
and I know you. I mean, you've got Tea getting
one way or another. Yeah, of course you get it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
So I'm glad. I'm glad you stop by it. Thank
you very much.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Jaming Hey, Cape Henderson, Ladies and gentlemen, round of applause.
My main man right here, really good at what he does.
When when we return, uh, we're going to get a
phone call from the greatest running back in the history
of New York Giants football.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And they've had a hundre. They're there.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
They've had ninety nine years of football. Tiki Barber joins
nine to noon. Next nine to noon, Goo, good stuff,
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Welcome back to the Friday Football Feast at Buffalo Wild Wings, Oakdale,
Paul Charchi and Paul Allen. And now, as we've mentioned
several times during the course of the radio show, today,
the greatest running back in the history of New York
Giants football is Tiki Barber with forty nine rushing yards.
My man had sixty eight touchdowns during his career in
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the regular season. One of them was a pump return
and had a wonderful ten year run with the Big Blue.
Assists to Robbie Rosenhouse for this and here he is. Hello, Tiki,
Welcome to the Friday Football Feast. Good to chat with you.
How are you.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Appreciate you having me, Paul, I'm doing well, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Right o.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Man got a co host Paul Charchian and It's one
hundred season for New York Giants football this year, and
Tiki took part in ten percent of it. What I'm
just going to open it like this, Well, simply because
it's football immortality here man, one hundred seasons and you're
part of it, like with the market and the media
market and everything, and just being a giant. Like, what
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was it like spending your entire career with the New
York Giants.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
That's cold.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yeah, it was a blessing.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
And you realize after you get a little bit into
the league four or five years in and then you
start to find some success, how blessed it is that
you're amongst some of the greats. And I was lucky
because a lot of the legends that were hanging around.
Rosie Brown would come around and Frank Gifford, So I
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got a chance.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
To chat with a lot of these guys.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Ron Johnson who was another running back back in the day,
and just get to absorb a little bit of the
history and then to go on and be a part
of it. After having a pretty good career for a decade,
you shouldalize how important this game is to the city
that we lived in. And I guess that's the case
for all major sports in all big cities. It becomes
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a part of the fabric of people's lives and to be,
you know, one of those that made brought some smiles
on Sunday afternoons and you know, lasting memories for a
lot of people. It's special and it's special to think about.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Tiki pal ch Archie. Great to meet you. You played
ten years for the same team. Undoubtedly you had opportunities
to play elsewhere, but it feels like, you know, because
you did the ten years with one team, which is
like you know, one percent of NFL players, you just
become intrinsically linked with that team. And I got to
believe at the end of the day that you could
have squeaked out a little more money going to I
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don't know, Carolina or something, you know, but you'll get
to forever be a New York Giant. Tell me a
little bit about ten years with the same team.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Yeah, it's interesting because I was a free agent right
after we went to the Super Bowl at two thousand
and Obviously that game was was brutal for us. The Ravens,
with one of the greatest defense in the history of
the league, absolutely muled US. But my free agent year
happened right then, and that was right when I was
coming into my own Irons had just drafted the Heisman
Trophy winner in Ron Daine, So in a sense, it
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was a replacement, you know, thought.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
In my mind.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
But after, you know, having the success that we had
that year, I didn't want to go anywhere else, and
I knew that there were other options out there, but
being in New York and thriving in New York was
it just felt special. I actually lived in the city,
and unlike most players, I lived in New York City
on the Upper East Side, so I got to experience this,
I don't know, the majesty of being a star in
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New York City.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It was.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
It was really really cool. It never really crossed my
mind and want to play anywhere else, and I think,
you know, as I look back on it, that was special.
It's interesting because my brother, I difficult twin brother.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
The same thing.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Sixteen years he played down in Tampa Bay and I
don't think he ever thought about leaving. And now, you know,
both of us are six months away from fifty years old.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
He's still the mayor down there.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
He's done everything right. Championship he's been there for sixteen years.
You run golf tournaments. He has recently got into the
Hall of Fame. It's when you can connect with a
new home and it becomes your home. New York, New
Jersey area I live in New Jersey now has become
my home. It's like Tampa has become Rende's home, not Rono, Virginia,
where we grew up. And it's our families are in
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these in these areas, and we're part of the fabric
of it, and it really is special.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
You're right.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
I had chances to leave, but I never really wanted to.
I think I saw how special it was to be
in New York.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Well a tiki.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
You mentioned ron Day and you mentioned how things change,
and you know you're in your tenth year, you're a
running back and you've.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Taken a fair amount of hits.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I just it's it's fascinating, man, because it doesn't happen
for people like this.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Your final two games, I.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Mean, I think the final regular season game was against Washington.
You might have gone for two twenty four franchise, Rightford.
Then in the playoffs, Okay, you lose and you're not
Oh we lost, but I got mine you're not like that.
You want the team to win. But still in your
final two games, man, you went for three hundred and
seventy one rushing yards and walked away from the game.
I mean you had the second Guess it just a little.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Bit right.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Now, I never really did. I mean my penultimate year
in five, which was my best year of my of
my career, I had almost twenty four hundred od purpose yards.
I had four hundred and four or four hundred and
five touches or something like that. The following year was
it was right up there as well, three hundred and
eighty touches or something. I was just getting beat up nowadays,
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just for you know, comparisons sake. Nowadays, running backs except
for Derrick Henry maybe they get three hundred touches total.
And so it was. It was a grind on my body,
and I could feel myself slowing down. Seventy eighty yard
runs from three or four years ago were becoming twenty
yard runs and getting caught, and like my body just
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wasn't wasn't, wasn't as durable as it had won to bend.
And then on top of that, the preparation that it
took to get ready for a season. I just wasn't
committed to and I wasn't going to be that guy
who just hung around, as Paul was.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Saying earlier, just hung around.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
To collect a paycheck and see what happened. If I
wasn't fully committed to it, I was going to go
do something else. Fortunately for me, and this probably ties
into being a New Yorker and living in the city,
there was so many opportunities for me to do other things,
whether it was on the entrepreneurial side or getting into media.
I mean, I left the NFL and went and worked
for the Today Show, and so it was. I felt
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that the opportunities outside of the game were more important
to me at that moment of my life where I
was about to be thirty two years old.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Well, that's self awareness at the end of something fun
many lacked. And this is Teaky Barber at Tiki Barber
via Twitter. If you're interested greatest running back in the
history of Giants, Football, Vikings and Giants This weekend, we'll
get into that momentarily over the final five or six
minutes with Tiki.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
TI a topic that honestly we don't like to talk
about here, but you'll enjoy more. Let's talk about what
we call forty one doughnuts out here in this town.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Vikings you know out there.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Yeah, it's not a good memory for you guys, but
it really is very good for you guys.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
You know, we rolled the Vikings rolled into that game
as prohibitive favorites. It looked like one of the you know,
the great offenses of all time, and you guys completely
shut down the Vikings offensively and defensively. How at what
point of that game did you realize the Vikings had
no shot that you guys were going to run away
with this game.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I got to tell you, honestly, we knew before the game.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
And it was all because of philosophy.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
So so philosophically, how the Minnesota Vikings did you guys
remember that year? They would you beat up on people,
you get up on teams, and then it was they
had to pass Randy Moss, would you know, go score
touchdown and Donte Copet or big get like all this
big stuff would happen for the Vikings offensively and then
defensively they would just tee off and take advantage of offenses.
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And that we're desperate to catch up, and so because
we had a defensive first team. We knew our philosophy
was just hit Randy Moss.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Hit him as hard.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
As you can, as often as you can, and get
him frustrated, and then ultimately that's going to derail the offense.
And all we got to do is score a couple
of touchdowns and then we'll be in the driver's seat.
And Sean Payton is you guys remember may may or
may not remember with our offensive coordinator and the first
meeting on Mondays. We came in before the championship game
and he said to us.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
We are going to throw for three hundred yards in
the first half. And we're all looking at each other like,
what what the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (32:45):
He said, go watch them on tape. When they have
to play defense, they get exposed. And so we knew
that all we had to do was create some some
big plays and we could expose the Viking secondary. And
that's exactly what happened. We score right away with the
with the wheel route to Greg Kamela down the sidelines
of the bus to coverage by the second level of
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the Vikings, and then the kickoff they got You got
fumbled the kickoff and it put us right back in
scoring position, and so those those like we got ahead.
It was it fit our game plan exactly, and then
we were able to tee off on Randy Moss and
frustrated the Vikings offense. And honestly, the.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Game was over before halftime.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
We we just knew that we that we had the
edge and the home crowd and the Old Giant Stadium,
the Intimate Giant Stadium. The new MetLife Stadium is too fast,
like the fans are too far away from the field,
so you don't feel it the same way. But that
Old Giant Stadium was was rocking like I've never seen
it before.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I mean, it's it's immortality with the stories, man, I
mean like they opened two doors and then the wind
changes the game you got ten feet below. I mean,
it's it's it's immortality. You don't have to tell us. Hey,
a couple more here for tiky Barbara okay uh to
Sunday's game and and low key Tikey. I'm kind of
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a Devin Singletary fan, and just simply because he's gassing
and I've just always liked, like, like appreciated what he's
done with what he has, and now he's he's not
going to be cutting carries with what James Cook, Zach Moss, whomever.
So so Devin, you know, he's the lead back here.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
What do you think he is?
Speaker 5 (34:26):
He is? And the thing I like most about Devin
and we called a couple of his games our CBS
crew when he was in Houston last year, and he
kind of supplanted Damian Pierce, who was the starter there
when Damien got hurt and Damon got healthy. But Devin
Singletary was just more effective.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Even though he's not a big runner.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
He always finishes forward. He's that kind of player that
can that's going to get positive yard. He's never losing
ground to try to hit the big play. He's very
efficient and how he and how he moves. And maybe
he'll get challenged a little bit by Tyrone Tracy, who
is a former wide receiver. We drafted him in the
fifth round this year. He's got great hands and he's
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dynamic until but you're right, Devin is going to be
the ball carrier.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
And it takes me back to kind of when my era.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
You know, a smaller back who's who's strong enough and
willing enough to run between the tackles, but can do
so many diverse things, and we're gonna need him to
do that because the offensive line has been historically and
I mean by historical for the last decade the issue
for the Giants. Now it's gotten a little bit better
with you know, some free agent signings Jermaine iluminor who's
going to start a right tackle when John Runyon came
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from Green Bay is going to be at left guard,
so it feels more veteran. But if it has to
be more balanced offensively for the Giants, and with Malik
Neighbors hopefully being that deep threat that he long desired
since the Odell Beckham junior days, hopefully we can find
some balance offensively.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Last one for takey, wrap it up, charge Tik.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
The Giants made a controversial decision to draft Neighbors, which
really helped men that they double down on Daniel Jones
and Neighbors looks like he's going to be great, but
it's he's still not a quarterback, and it's still not
clear if Daniel Jones is requisite of an NFL quarterback.
So how do you feel about that decision by the
front office?
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Yeah, I mean, I think it was just going to
be prohibitively expensive because of all the other needs that
the Giants had in the draft to give away, whether
it was a third or fourth rounder, to move up
and go get one of those quarterbacks. And we all
know now because we're seeing how many of these guys
are starting, and I think JJ would have started for
(36:38):
you guys if he had gotten hurt. You have to
find your quarterback. You have to find that guy who
you can build build around. And you know, when I
think about Daniel, the circumstances are similar to Sam. Now,
Sam's early history was just it was terrible with Todd
Bowles getting fired and then Adam Gates coming in, and
even Adam Gates at the end of his ten years
(37:00):
basically say I failed Sam, and he was right. When
you have to switch coordinator so many times and systems
changed over and over again, it's almost impossible for quarterbacks
to be successful. And Daniel Jones hasn't had it to
the extent that Sam has, but it has been that
way the Giants went through. This is his third coach
and his fourth coordinator, Daniel Jones, and he's had health
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issues and so the challenge and the frustration for frustrating
part for Giants fans is that they really like Daniels right.
They saw early in his career that he could be
a guy who pushes the ball downfield. I mean, he
didn't get that nicknamed Danny Dimes to college. That came
from his first year in the NFL with the Giants.
But it's been so hard for him to establish himself
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and six years.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
In Giants fans still don't know And.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Think about that, six years in with the same quarterback,
and you still don't know who gets that amount of time,
No one, And so it's it's it's to hold your breast.
Let's hope that we get the Danny Dimes, Daniel Jones
and not guy who can't be consistently on the field.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
But because I think.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
If you do get the Daniel zones from twenty twenty
two where he led the league in turnover ratio meeting
lowest turnover ratio with Jalen Hurt, then the Giants offensively
can be good and defensively they can be impactful. But
it's there's so many like little question marks, not huge ones,
but just like little question marks surrounding him that make
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it hard to just really believe that this success is
right around the corner.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
So it's almost like you got to just wait and see,
and nobody likes being and waiting and seeing as a fan.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Take you, that was spectacular. Bless you, my man. Likewise
for your twin and have a great weekend and hopefully
we catch up soon.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Okay, well, certainly be well, guys.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Take care, Bud.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Thanks Dicky Jack Jarber. That was awesome.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, you can tell he owes his own show on Wfan.
You know he can carry a conversation, right, Yeah, fairly
sharp guy, Thank you, robbing all right. Nine to Noon
continues with a covenant quickie around the corner. Than Ya,
Young Alex.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Alex lewis with the athletic He joins us at Buffalo
Wild Wings, Oakdale for the first Feast year fifteen for
the Friday Football Feast Fantasy Football Beast nine to noon
at Buffalo Wild Wings, Oakdale. Paul Charchian and yours truly,
Paul Allen. Can you start any or all of these
(39:25):
three highly highly drafted and talented rookie receivers, Let's say
Marvin Harrison Junior at Lake Neighbors, Rome Madons.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
A Neighbors to me is the most fascinating because there's
so many questions about the Vikings cornerbacks right, A lot
of tumult here, a lot of change. You know, we
don't know where Shack Griffin is in his career cycle.
Stephan Gilmour. We hope he's still got good play left
in him. And we think Neighbors is going to be
a magnet for targets like week one. Yeah, they've got
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they have other quasi interesting receivers. Wendale Robinson is stuff,
but Neighbors is the future and I wouldn't be spied.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
They pepper him a lot, so I like him.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Here, Roma Dunsay's fascinating goes up against Tennessee. Tennessee got
Lugerious Snead a very good cornerback for the Chiefs in
free agency. He's really their only good cornerback and he's
gonna be on DJ Moore. Roma Dunsay is going to
run free against inferior coverage for Tennessee. I'm kind of
optimistic about him.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
What what do you think of Tony Pollard? Tony Pollard
in that game against the Bears.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Not a I'm not feeling very optimistic when they needed
Pollard in Dallas last year. In a variety of different roles,
but primarily as their lead back.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
The dude was a big l first year off a
bad injury. Well that was last year.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, you know it wasn't like acl you know, I
really we all expected more and better things never came together.
Tajay Spears to me, is the better, more dynamic back,
and Pollard might be the starter just from veteran's equity,
but Spears is the is the more interesting of the
of the two for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Do you like do you like White with Tampa Bay?
And what do you think of Bucky Irving the backup?
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Well, to the surprise of most of us, Rashad White
catches too right, He does catch. He is an accomplished
pass catcher, and he is a he turned last year.
He was there to do everything back and really a workhorse.
They never had to go much into their depth chart.
They drafted Bucky Irving, former Gopher, who is a straight ahead,
shifty runner, more more, much more of a power runner
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than White is m and it looks like Bucky Irvin's
going to have a bigger role than most of us
thought he was going to have. The coaching staff came
out this week and said, we're gonna use both guys,
and we might use a hotthand and you know we're like, wow, okay,
this could be a situation that could be developing in
Bucky Irving's
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Favor Vikings Giants analysis in the Final Hour with Alec
Lewis with The Athletic when we returned to Buffalo Wild Wings,
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