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March 3, 2026 43 mins
YHH's Tony Scott in studio with an extended breakdown of the Boys state hockey tourney, then a replay of Chris Finch's earlier chat with PA!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
Tony Scott, what's going on, my brother Mawar?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Things really good. Thanks for having me today, p A.
It's good to be here in person for sure.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Tony Scott.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
Youth Hockey Hub State High School Hockey Tournament. It's an
annual occasion nine to noon. We have Tony in studio
with us here to discuss single A tomorrow, then double
A on Thursday. And also somebody who's been a frequent
contributor to our radio show the last X amount of months,
Olivia King. Yeah, well you're working with Olivia Youth Hockey

(01:02):
Hub The Talk Goalie to meet, very good podcast, wonderful,
wonderful young lady.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
If I could just give her a quick plug. I mean,
she came in just kind of a random meeting. I
knew who she was. She was Goal of the Year
in twenty nineteen on our website, so I knew who
she was and followed her career obviously. But she came
in says I'm gonna do this podcast. And sometimes these
people they come in and they do things and they
come around for a week or two. She is steadfast,

(01:28):
absolute hard worker, comes to bemid you with us for
Friday night ice projects and she's worked her butt off
all year. Some of her guests have been amazing. She's
had Devin Dubnik, camp Gorg, you know, Ali Altman's coming
in this week, the USA goalie coach. She's just a
great kid and a great hard work or something you
want here.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
For a youth hockey hub? Where can people find it?
And what do you do with youth hockey hubs?

Speaker 3 (01:52):
So Youth Hockeyub is a platform I would call us
because we're not just a news source, which you can
get plenty of news from us, whether it's our website
ww youth hockeyhub dot com or you can find us
on x and Instagram is at Youth Hockey Hub. But
you're gonna find youth tournaments year round, youth tournaments, six

(02:13):
podcasts a week during the season, one Pat podcast a
week off season.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
He just goes on and on.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
It's a continuous three sixty five twenty four to seven
hockey here in Minnesota for kids nine through college.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Tony'scott Youth Hockey Hub with I don't even know these guys' names,
and assumably I saw it on social media recently with
a couple of players who I think are suspended for
the Okay, A are they good players?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
B are they he to their teams? Like like what's
happening here? So the first.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Kids Drew Sherman, so, Drew's dad is Matt Sherman and
former quarterbacks for the Iowahaway. Great family, great kid, and
I think that his emotions got the best of them
and made some obscenes gestures after their victory over Saint
Thomas Academy, which all the pundits ourselves included at YEH
did not have them pick to win, and they won it.
And I think a little bit of that's spilled over

(03:08):
and he apologized within an hour, but still got a
suspension from the high school league.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
That will hurt rosemo At big time.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
They do have two great goaltenders, Abe and Finn and
Sam Clements to fill in for him. They've all had
plenty of minutes this year, so I don't think there's
gonna be a huge drop off. But Drew is a
heck of a talent. And the other one was this kid,
Cole Swanson, the Star Trebune Metro Player of the Years
little brother, and I think he's not little, He's much bigger.

(03:35):
He's a heck of a talent. I mean, I gush
about him every time I can. He sees the ice well,
he plays with his brother. It's fun combination. I think
that Hiving's gonna survive a game against Dodge County, but
I'm not sure if Rosema can survive a game against
Grand Rapids on Thursday afternoon.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Tony Scott Youth Hockey Hub. By the way, as KFA
and goes, is an annual thing. Zacho, Zach Calverson. We'll
be calling the state high school hockey games Thursday through
Saturday on either f N one hundred point three KFA
IN or KFA N plus. So goes Zacho, and that'll
begin a couple of days from now, despite the high

(04:13):
school hockey tournament beginning tomorrow with with single A. And
from the single A standpoint, what what jumps out of you?
Like like these names Motamedi, Saint Cloud Cathedral and so on.
You know, you talk a little bit about Hivving Dodge County,
But what sticks out with single A?

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Well, first of all, a lot of streaks, right, there's
a lot of the usual suspects. Saint cloudk Cathedral four
years in a row, Montamedi five years in a row,
nine out of the last ten. You know, a lot
of these teams have been back and forth all you know,
several several times.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
For me, hitting is the team to be.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
That's one of the storylines, pa is this is is
can they come down here and win their first title
since nineteen seventy three. They've been one of the best teams,
I say double a ra all year long. Is can
somebody match their offense because they'll want to score five
or six goals in a game. One of our podcasters,
no I think it was Pat mcletty, calls them the

(05:14):
eighty four Oilers because they're just so up and they.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Want to get up and down the ice. They want
to play fast.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
They'll be the most entertaining team to watch this week
by far.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Delano Mankato West in particular, as a proud fan Cato native.
Tell me about Mainkato West and their route here. I
know they got a tough one with Delano, but how
about those Scarlets.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
They beat East on Saturday and overtime as well. So
this team has been really good all year, they've beaten
a lot of Double A teams. Nate Olsen is a
Scarlet alum just like you. So for me, it's really
fun to watch a team. This is their first trip
in ten years to the tournament Class three eight. The
Section three A hasn't had a repeat winner since like

(05:56):
twenty eleven Nordo. So it's every other year you're getting
a new team, whether it's Laverne or Mankato East. It's
just seems like it's really hard to come back and
repeat in that section. Their goaltender, sophomore Brooke Blake Brecky,
he's got a little brother too, is a fantastic kid.
He won the job from a four year starter Mason Schreier.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
They go as he goes.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
They got talent up and down lineup in all different
grades at Mankato.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
West, well doubt.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
My sources tell me with Delano that Delano has an
impressive resume with a win over war Road and a
tie versus Hibbing, and they have two seventy plus point scores.
Holy cow. So all right, I'm not saying. I'm not
saying Delano is going to beat Mankato West ten zero. However,
looking at looking at this, does hibbing and I know

(06:48):
war Roads of three Delano's two. Does it feel to
a learned high school hockey mind hibbing war Road for
all the money?

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I think for me the monomedia, I don't don't look
those guys. Those guys have been overlooked a couple times
and that didn't work out so well for Hermantown and World.
So I think that's this real sneaky team. I've been
their biggest proponent all year. Is the best team in
the state. They played double A schedule, a heavy double
A schedule.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
They're tied with hitting. Let me tell you a pa.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
This game had eighty five penalty minutes up in world
earlier this season. Think about that. That's a lot of
penalty minutes distributed. And it wasn't just the players getting
after it. The parents were getting after it in the
stands with the fans.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
That's impressive. It was one of those games.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Like I can't wait if that it will be one
of the best semi finals of the day on Friday
if those two hook up on Friday at eleven o'clock.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Okay, So with double A, the Skippers are the top
seed morehead, the two seed Dinah three, Rose Mound four.
Correct me if I'm wrong here. It came up earlier
in the conversation. Morehead beat in the Emmy's last year,
right on Friday night, right, and it was beautiful goal,

(08:04):
but it was a It was a very tightly contested,
emotional game. Fans were getting into it, not not physically
but verbally with the were from up here allegedly nobody cares.
You guys are glitzy cake eater town.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
We never won it before. That was a big thing
for Morehead last year. Yeah, but that's I recall that
being wowed last year. So a good game.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
So Morehead the defending champs, uh, bring back lots of
key players from from that team. Joey Cullen, a source
of high school hockey source, told me earlier in the week,
actually late last week.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
He's not wrong.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Joey Cullen tenth grader who missed time due to injury,
but will be in the conversation for being the first
overall pick in the NHL draft in a couple of years.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Wow, really really geez everything that kid touches his gold.
So that's why there might pick to win it. Yeah,
I'm minnetaka came up there and beat them, came up
to Morehead and beat him earlier in the year. That's
whether the one and Moreheads of two. But Joey Collen
doesn't lose many games. I think I can count on
one hand how many times I've seen that kid lose

(09:09):
in a game.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
There's not any.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Other first round draft pick, projected top five picks on
any of their teams in the Double A.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I think he will be the difference.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
And that's why I think Moreheads my pick to win
the state championship this week.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
All right, Tony, So hockey, you know, hockey with the
puck luck and things being tightly congested even if you're
an eight going against a one at certain levels. So
I'm thinking the LA Kings winning the Stanley Cup a
decade and change ago, and bottom bottom feeders or seeds
making life difficult on higher seeds. And here's the point.

(09:44):
You know, from Minnetaka one, Gentry Academy eight, then Lakeville
South seven, Morehead two. Is it like that in high
school hockey where you know, like one of these bottom
seeds like Gentry Academy. I mean, I remember when you
and I I first started talking about them, right around COVID.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yes, I had no idea what it was, didn't know
what a charter school was.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
All I know is they were getting up and down
the ice with racehorse hockey, killing people.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
That group of kids in twenty twenty one pa was
had been together for five six years playing youth hockey together.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
And for me to watch that team play a Class A.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Was not a big deal. Watching them win wasn't a
big surprise. This group here. There's only four seniors on
this gentry team, and a lion's share they're scoring comes
from sophomores and juniors. This team will be around for
a couple more years. This is not a one undone
from the stars.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
With Morehead and the Dina, they they can't match up
in the state title game?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Can they? Friday night? Though? So it has to be
another okay.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I was kind of hoping for a repeat of the
football season, that ability to.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
See them battling for that title.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Now with a Dina as the three, what are we
looking at from them in terms of their ability to
in this case, if you're hot on Morehead, they may
have to get through a Dina and a Dinah will
have a say in that.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Again, well, a couple of things about Adynah.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
First of all, one of their top three scores, Dylan Donna,
appear to be out for the tournament. He got injured
in the second period in the way, Is that a
Section final?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I wasn't at that game and graduated.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
No, he's still a senior in high school, but he's
playing juniors at Fargo.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Very good, right, elite hockey. Mind, he's in the Blackhawks organization.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Right there you go, there, you go. Well, Dylan Donna,
a junior for the Hornets, is hurt. I don't know
if that's going to definitely hurt them. If he can't
be one hundred percent for the Hornets, that's number one.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Number two.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
I watched them against the against Wisetta. They're really starting
to gel right now. And that's that's the scary thought
for any one of the turn when Jill, when Kurt
Giles gets his team cooking, I think they can win
a state title. There have been a lot Kurt's had
a lot less talent and one state titles with a
lot less talent in the past fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
And people tell me andovers are very sneaky. Six under
five hundred people bought with lots of talent. And ever
since we set this up, I've been pining to ask
you about Camden Langfield and kJ Sower Langfield and Sour.
They could fuel Landover right.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Cam's dad played for the University of Michigan, Michigan, but
grew up here in the Twin Cities, went to Blaine
High School and a sour family is well documented. Well,
I mean, just you can't swing a dead cat in
this town running with a sour at the rink. I
see his dad can't went to UMD. kJ is dead
And I've known Caje since he was ten years old.

(12:33):
He's a little tiny kid, but head taller than everybody
his whole life. He's still a head taller than everybody.
And now he's tough as nails. He was a little
bit soft when he was younger. He is tough as nails.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Now. That's a really good team.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Coach Leopold has joined the team. Uh so that's fun
to see. And his son is on the team as well.
So I think Andover's got a shot, but he Dinad's
a real tall task In the first round.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Tony scott Youth Hockey Hub KFAM.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
So whether it was it was single a the East
Grand Forks wins a year ago or no, I believe
was in that third place game. That the reason I'm
bringing this Shakapee and Stillwater part of the conversation on
a year to year basis, Tony, you'll see the adnas
and some of these teams Morehead certainly, and some of
these programs that consistently year after year after year of
finding their way to the X slash Grand Casino Arena.

(13:20):
What is it like covering some of these teams like
the Chakapiez or maybe and maybe that's a bad example,
you can tell me, but I remember Saint Michael Albertville
had this massive influx of new residents and there was
this period where Saint Michael Auberville was just this sports
juggernaut you talk about and over maybe more consistent or
at least up and down, but they're back in the mix.
Some of these cities where it's like you haven't seen them.

(13:43):
You mentioned Mankato in ten years, Northfield a number of
years ago finding their way to the tournament. What's it
like covering some of these cities where everything comes together
for the first time either ever or in a long
time and finding their way into the tourney.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Well, that's a great tee up for Rosemon if I've
ever heard one. Because here's coach Ricky Santia, Rosemont Grad, a.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Guy who's built it.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
His his hashtag is built from within and for years
and years and years, the east Side Metro teams. You
notice we haven't seen these side privates in the tournament. No,
no Cretan, no Hill Marie, no Saint Thomas this year, right,
and now we get a chance to see rose Mount
hockey in the championship. They were over at Saint Thomas
last Tuesday, all white youth jerseys, three four five hundred

(14:27):
kids cheering on their heroes, the rose Mount High School team.
And to see them beat Saint Thomas was it kind
of gave me the chills to watch it all unfold
and to have a team that returned the state tournament
for the first time since like nineteen ninety two. They
played in the Wow, the old Tier two division.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
They were four to twenty and one.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
This is when Tier one and Tier two the worst
experiments I could ever hear they had left. Basically, the
nit made it. They made an NT for ninety one
to ninety two.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Terrible idea.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Yeah, my high school hockey source tells me Rose mount
as you mentioned, had a big upset of Saint Thomas
Academy to make it to State. Another team that didn't
play a tough schedule or that tough of the schedule,
but showed it's legit beating the Cadets. Balance across the
board in terms of having depth, scoring, lots of kids

(15:15):
from tenth, eleventh, and twelfth grades all chipping in. First
trip to State in a long time, and not easy
your first time there. So wrote Rose Mountain.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
That'll be their biggest obstacle. What the lack of experience.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Shining lights, the banquet, the playing on that sheet of ice,
that'll be the their biggest opponent. I think I think
they're a better hockey team than Grand Rapids. They beat
them six rip early in the year up at the
Iria in Grand Rapids. But once you get under those lights,
and these kids from Grand Rapids were in the tournament
two years ago, they played on Friday night two years ago,
they will not be intimidated by the bright lights on

(15:52):
Thursday afternoon.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Is Minnetonka re emerging to a one seed? Like like
I'm not saying, you know, Minnetaka hasn't been good the
last x amount of years, but he died of this
and more had that from last year still watered like Minnetaka,
how good is it?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Okay, So this team this year has ten score ten
to twenty five plus points scorer, so they don't have
one exact superstar. But they got seven of the best
defensemen in the state. And if you ask me, they're
the toughest team to beat. They're just grind you out.
They want to allow only one or two goals. They
only allow one or two goals a game. They have
one of the best goaltenders in the state. In my opinion,

(16:30):
they're not emerging. Minnetaka is like the sun coming up.
As far as I'm concerned. We've had a couple anomalies
here when you have Shakpe who had a great team
with Cooper Simpson in the Gang last year. But I
think they are the one of the slow and steadies
of high school hockey here in Minnesota. If you look
at their youth program, they just sent like six teams

(16:51):
to the youth state tournaments this past weekend.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Minnetaka hopefully I'm adding this upright, seven players with ten
or more goals.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, and holy cow ye and then ten with twenty
five or more points.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Oh geez. Impressive. Yeah, that's an impressive team.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
You can't count you can't you can't key on any
one player in that team. And they have this big
defenseman named Tate Hardaker who will blow you up. And
he's got a long stick and a really tough guy
to play against.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
So Gentry Academy the eight in double A. Gentry Academy
beat traditional four double A powers, Hill Murray and White
Bear La Correct.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Their toughest game, I oddly enough, was against east Ridge
Wow in the quarterfinals.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
If you asked me, well, then they So. Now I'm
being told about Jackson Cook, a tenth grader. He's a
special talent, thirty three goals, future D one player, not
super deep, lack of experience could be problematic, but kind
of playing with house money.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Jackson does not lack confidence. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Well, this, this Gentry is an eight. Yeah, this should
be fun. That's Thursday, eleven in the morning. And by
the way, Zach Calverson with KFA and calling all these
games for either Kfan or Kfan, plus Tony Scott with
the Youth Hockey Hubs in studio nine to noon, chatting
about the state high school hockey tournament, which begins tomorrow

(18:11):
at eleven in the morning with hibbing Chisholm against Dodge County.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
So you mentioned rose Mount went up to Grand Rapids,
played earlier this year, dominated them six. Nothing you said,
So these outstate teams, there's no hiding. I mean, whether
it sounds it sounds like from a scheduling standpoint that
even a Grand Rapids team maybe not as good as
previous incarnations. But there's no hiding just because you're not
playing in the metro, right, correct.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Everybody goes to rap As, everybody goes to the World,
everybody goes to du Lutheast, everyone goes to Morehead. These
teams all play each other. There's like a secret agreement
among about thirty two teams in the state. They'll play
each other if they don't want to play Moulends view.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
They don't want to play those teams. They want to
play their teams and their little click. But there's conferences
who kind of get in the way of that.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
A little bit.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Mileds views are like, well what about I no, look
at their record, their record this year.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
I mean they had some good team in the last
couple of years, but this was a down year for
the Mustangs.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Lastly, Nordo mentioned d Dinah earlier and my intel indicates
advanced through probably the toughest section in the state. Senior
netminder Chase Bejorguard is the backbone.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Some odd of feeling that was going to come out today.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
This isn't till we save the best for last. This
isn't any Dina team stacked with blue chip D one talent.
You mentioned that like some others. But he Dinah is
he dynam and very talented. Hedyna comes into it as
a three starting with andover Thursday night about eight thirty
with Chase. So Chase scored and I've known Chase since

(19:42):
he was in middle school. Chase scoring the six touchdowns
against Morehead. There's that Chase can. If you throw him
the wrong fastball, it's going four to fifty the wrong way.
I mean, big boy can hit the heck out of
the ball. And personally speaking, I think that's what's next
for Chase playing baseball at the collegiate level.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
A hockey fan, I'm hoping he's a goalie. How good
is he As a goalie. He's fantastic, is he?

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Let me tell you, he's supernaturally gifted, because I'm not,
you know, liked Chase school and life and personal life
and not burning out. Okay, His father, Eric, the general
manager of Metropolitan for told me this years ago. Is
he's very cognizant because his son's good at all these sports.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
But when the sport's done, it's done. He's done with it.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
So it's not like, Okay, let's pump three thousand into
this strength training for football, three thousand into this speed
training for hockey, three thousand into this with Tom House
or John or Jordan Beck, whatever the guy's name is,
learn how to throw a pitch. It's no, he's just
naturally gifted. But as a goalie, he's really.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Good, isn't he.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
So we did a feature on him last year. We
followed him around the entire hockey, football, and baseball season.
We have clips of him doing all those sports, and
it was fun to get to know him after we'd
them around for the year, and I sat down with
him for an hour or so in our studio and
did some interviews with him to talk about all of
those things.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
What blew me Away was he never has a break.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
It's like his break was like late July early August,
that break between summer baseball and football season starting, because
and then they can't have any football, They can't have
any offseason stuff after July thirtieth, So like from August
first to August tenth, whereas only ten days off in
an entire calendar year.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
That's unbelievable. Right.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
So here's one thing about Chase's goaltending, and this is
true story. He never played hockey in the offseason, right right,
Think about all the other goalies all over the state
who are just killing it three hundred and fifty days
out of the year to get better at goaltending. He
would show up because yeah, my buddies, and not before
like pee Wee tryouts. We would go over to Blake
on the Friday before tryouts and we'd shoot some pucks

(21:54):
on me for a little bit. That was his extent
of training before Pee Wee Double. He wasn't play on
the b teams in Indiana. He was on the top
team every year which blew me Away won a state
championship is a Peewee one state championship as a bantam
he is a winner and if he chooses hockey, some
hockey team college junior will be very very lucky.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Now at youth hockeyhub dot com, wonderful wonderful work done
up to the boys a High school hockey tournament including
BHS twenty twenty six State Tournament interviews and there are
a lot of interviews with these players taking taking part
in the tournament.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Every team in the state.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Youth hockeyhub dot com. Tony and his group do wonderful work.
Thanks for the time, no sweet thanks for having me.
We'll call you soon. Tony scop Youth Hockey Hub, Youth
hockey hub dot com. This is ninety so coach when
when it comes to stamping out teams and just getting

(22:55):
rid of them when they're ready to be beat. Charles
Barkley says, that's kind of been a problem with your squad.
It wasn't Sunday in Denver. What'd you take from the game,
Benji Benchi.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
Well, you know you can feel our focus sharpening right now.

Speaker 7 (23:09):
You know, obviously we've got a game tonight, so we're
going to continue. Guys are locked in. Our defenses is
getting better and better, you know, in a lot of
areas where we've been inconsistent. I think we've been really
good in the last number of games, particularly on this
road trip, namely our physicality, our our attention to detail,
our rebounding, and our lack of fouling. Is we were

(23:33):
good without fouling the other day, and I thought, offensively,
you know, we're doing a good job right now, just
kind of playing the game that's in front of us
every night. It might be a little bit different, obviously,
teams are trying to zero in on Ant. Denver did
a good job of not letting him kind of play
down the stretch by putting two on him, and I

(23:54):
thought he was outstanding getting the ball out and into
you know, the next player's hands, and we just made
the right.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Play, Chris.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
When the Nuggets don't have Aaron Gordon, and they've been
without him for two long stretches this year, it just
you guys are so much longer than the Nuggets, specifically
when they don't have Gordon. How how much of a
difference does that make not having him against those guys?

Speaker 7 (24:21):
Well, I mean, he's a outstanding player. He's a perfect
fit next to the yolkicch He gives them a lot
of things. You know, gives them lanth, he gives them
strength and toughness, and around the rim, he's an outstanding
multi position defender, good rebounder, runs the floor, and he's
really added the three point shot to his game. So
he's becoming a complete player and an all around great.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
Threat for those guys.

Speaker 7 (24:43):
And you know, he changes with his newfound success from
the three point line. He really changes the spacing out there,
makes it really hard. But what I think where they.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Miss the most is its defense.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
Certainly like he's he's he can guard you know, one
through five at times, and you know they need that
guy and that type of guy next to Jokics to
really maximize their defense.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
And with you guys, Kyle Anderson reportedly back in the
mix beloved slow Mo. What what do you like about that?

Speaker 7 (25:21):
Yeah, well, man, we love it because he gives us
you know, uh, you know, we play him at the
point guard here, which is what he grew up playing,
and we love his decision making is high IQ basketball.
He's got great lengths. He's also a multi position defender,
which you need right now with with so many skilled
guys in the league, you got to have multitudes of

(25:44):
guys who are comfortable guarding smalls or bigs.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
And but yeah, just a winner.

Speaker 7 (25:48):
He was a winner, winning player. He is a winning person.
He just makes winning plays. And it's good to have
him back.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
The Denver Nuggets took Bones Highland in the first round
five years ago. Aly out sundown me. He lit them
up for eighteen six of seven, shooting just fifteen minutes.
Is is it always special for those guys to have
games like that against their former teams.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Oh, no doubt about it.

Speaker 6 (26:13):
It just feels like you see it all.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
The time, you know.

Speaker 7 (26:18):
And you know, Tim Conley was the one who drafted
Bone Island, and Tim's always been a big believer in Bones,
and he was, you know, he is the reason that
Bones ended up here and we're very glad that he.

Speaker 6 (26:32):
Has and he's he's going to pass similar to the
one that we saw on the keel.

Speaker 7 (26:37):
You know, when ni Kill first got here, he didn't
play a whole lot, solely found his way into the
the rotation then then made his mark through defense.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
And you know, different players for sure, But.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
What Bones offers us we really need, you know, a
speedy guard, somebody who can consistently get to the paint
to make threes. He created his own three and that's
stuff that we desperately needed.

Speaker 6 (27:02):
So it was fun to watch him.

Speaker 7 (27:03):
I thought he was absolutely key to our victory because
once he stabilized the game, almost all by himself in
the second quarter, then we kind of took off.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Yeah, people in the crowd at ball Arena, I mean
they were astounded. You know, I would hear all around
my section, that's bones Highland. We used to have him,
who knew that's bones. Most impressive to me with Bones
this year is he's shooting I think it's forty six
and a half percent. I mean, what what's he doing
to get the field goal way above his career average.

Speaker 7 (27:34):
Well, he's getting a lot of transition baskets, easy ones too.
With outstanding finisher. You know, he can get an angle
on somebody's quick downhill is long. He's deceptively long, and
he's got when he unfolds, he you know, he has
a nice touch, laying it right enough the glass. He's
shooting the ball well from three point line too, so
that's you know, certainly helping his average.

Speaker 6 (27:57):
But he doesn't take bad shots.

Speaker 7 (27:59):
You know, I've always sad, it's like you want to
be a good shooter in the in the in the league.
The first thing to get rid of all the bad shots,
and he just takes really good shots.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Chris Finch, head coach of the Minnesota Timberwolves. They have
they have a game tonight against Memphis. More on that momentarily.
Is it with the last two the Clippers and the Nuggets?
Is it? Is it fair to say the last two
you've played that those guys don't want to play racehorse
basketball and like zing up and down the court, kind
of kind of a slower pace, especially the Clippers.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
And do you like it that way?

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (28:32):
I mean the Clippers are definitely a more deliberate team.
They're they're generally slower. They actually the defense invites the
slow game and encourages the slow game, and you know
they'll they'll they'll run out of their defense with steels
and turnovers, but they're not looking to push the pace
at every moment.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
I would say both.

Speaker 6 (28:51):
Teams are opportunistic and transition.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
You know, to your point, they don't.

Speaker 7 (28:55):
Really want to run up and down all the time,
but Denver is very good when they get out transition.

Speaker 5 (29:01):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (29:02):
Christian Brawn is one of the best wing runners in
the league. And then you have you know, Jok one
of the best passers, but he's also a great full
court passer and a great transition passer and hit ahead passer.
And we were able to mitigate.

Speaker 6 (29:16):
That on Sunday, and that's big.

Speaker 7 (29:18):
They only had six transition points that they're normally more
potent than that in transition, but again, it was It's
a lot of it's fueled by a lot of it's
fueled by Gordon, he's a great runner, and a lot
of it's fueled by Joki is such a great passer.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
So Memphis tonight at Target Center for the first time
without Jaron Jackson after the trade deadline. What what do
you think about tonight? What are some keys tonight? You
guys obviously are big favorites.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Yeah, I mean this is one of those games.

Speaker 7 (29:48):
It's it's it's a mindset game as much as anything else.
You know, these guys are look look pretty different after
the trade. Uh, and with with their current roster, they
don't have like a legitimate big on the floor. You know,
they don't have Jackson of course, who's been a problem

(30:09):
for us all season.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
Uh, you know they're gonna spread you out, you know,
They're gonna play fast.

Speaker 7 (30:13):
And try to get to the paint, kick it out,
shoot a lot of threes. They play like high variants basketball,
like their their their their style. You know if they
all if they start hitting shots, then you're gonna have
you're gonna be in it for a headache because you know,
they can really make shots, and they play quick and
they do a good job of playing for each other.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
In that guard. So we gotta slow them down, gotta
keep them in front.

Speaker 7 (30:36):
It's gonna be a lot of one on one defense
is gonna be important for sure tonight.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
But you know, it's about our mindset.

Speaker 7 (30:43):
We gotta we got to back up what we did
on Sunday with a good performance tonight at home.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Could be a could be a big one for Root
each night, right, I mean, with that size advantage, feed
the kiddy and put Rudy on a big game.

Speaker 7 (30:55):
Yeah, absolutely, And you know it's but they're gonna they're
they're they're very, very accustomed to putting Rudy in some
tricky situations which we'll leave him, you know, exposed in rotation.
So it's not just being big at the rim. He's
gonna have to cover some ground on the perimeter, and
which is great because you know, we're going to see
this this style in the playoff a lot, and teams
are gonna dare us to try to take Rudy off

(31:17):
the floor, and you know we we don't generally do that.
So it's it's but Rudy has to adjust and make
the right rotations, you know, rather than just be rooted
at the rim where where we know he's really good.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
And and Toronto's here after that. Tough customers at times,
these raptors. When when when you came here from the
Toronto bench and and you were a key assessed assistant
for the for Toronto and and Chris for those who
don't remember, became head coach basically middle of the season
here a half decade ago. When when that went down

(31:49):
the way it did, did it surprise you?

Speaker 6 (31:53):
Yeah, I mean it definitely surprised me.

Speaker 7 (31:55):
I mean it's kind of unusual to leave one team
as a coach in the middle of the season. I mean,
players do it all time and trade, but they don't
have the choice. So the opportunity came and certainly blast
and was quite unique. But I always will be forever
and indebted to the Messiah and Nick Nurse and all

(32:17):
the people who in Toronto and ownership Larry Tannenbaum at
the time. Now those three are all have moved on.
But you know, they they recognized what a great opportunity
was for me, and they gracefully let me, let me
leave and and come here.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
Which is, you know, been the highlight of my life
professionally for sure.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I don't, I don't. I mean, has anybody else ever
done that?

Speaker 4 (32:41):
I like, I don't recall any examples of a coach
leaving a team during the season and becoming a head
coach of another team.

Speaker 6 (32:49):
Yeah, the only one I can remember it was yon
o'hollins did it.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
I can't.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
I think he left.

Speaker 7 (32:53):
Milwaukee and went to Memphis, you know, right at the
start of the grit and grind era.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, Lionel Hollins.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
I mean, you know, you make a reference like that,
then we're gonna have to reference the big, thick upper body.
And he was tough in the key and like he
and Adrian Dantley kind of played the same way a little.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Bit, remember that.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
Oh yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 7 (33:17):
Multiple time WM sorry, multiple time NBA champion, once with
my Sixers and once with Portland I believe right.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Yeah, they're your sixers, but a couple of Sundays ago
they were everybody else's sixers, if you know what I mean. Yeah,
no doubt like a couple of a couple of quicks.
To close here for Finchy Chris finch Head, coach of
the t Wolves, Io and Bones together is I mean
they pushed the pace that that that adds a little

(33:46):
speed to the equation here, doesn't it.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
Yeah, we love it.

Speaker 7 (33:50):
It's a good change of pace, you know from Anthony
and Julius, who are a little again, we're a little
bit more deliberate there, although that unit with the first unit,
you know, Dante and Jayden do a really good job
of getting out and stretching the floor. But what we
love about Iowa and Bones is they they can convert quickly,
so it's not just playing fast.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
They get to the bucket and they.

Speaker 7 (34:12):
Can finish, so they take opportunities and turn them into points.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
In a hurry.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
Well, last one here. It's a two parter and I've
been a little out of pocket the last few days.
Great seeing you guys in Denver Sunday, by the way,
But yeah, have you like have you been asked a
lot of questions of late about your relationship with Anthony
Edwards off the past, the ball walk off Clippers Night.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, I mean, of course, you know, I've had a few.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
It's not been too too many.

Speaker 7 (34:42):
I think most people who are in the game understand
that these exchanges happen and we move on.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
I mean, Anthony and I've barely disgusted.

Speaker 7 (34:50):
We just talked about it a little bit, kind of laughed,
and you know, we're both fine, and you know there's
been no residual issue here, you know, but I mean
there was a something captured between Luca and j J
Riddick the other day. I mean, you know, it's a
competitive environment that we work in, and you know, we're

(35:14):
not afraid to share our feelings at the time.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
And and and I think it's.

Speaker 7 (35:18):
It's good when you can have these exchanges and then
everything's fine afterwards.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
I mean, let everybody know that, you know, we got.

Speaker 7 (35:26):
A healthy relationship, because we'll be able to to to
move on and you know, had we've had those types
of exchanges with multiple people on on the on the
on the on the teams, not just exclusive.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
To Anthony, except so to land the plane on this
and the conversation being a coach, and I'm thinking of
you and ann being a coach, a teacher, a dissenting
a dissenting opinion, sometimes a surrogate family member, and all
of that to a superstar. I'm guessing we're working with

(36:00):
and befriending Anthony Edwards has absolutely been a highlight of your.

Speaker 7 (36:05):
Career, oh absolutely, And watching him grow and become the
player he has and put the work in and benefit
from it. And obviously everybody in organizationally is we're.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Benefiting from it.

Speaker 7 (36:19):
But does any anyone will tell you like everybody wants
to be coached, you know, myself included, Like I want
feedback on things that I can do differently or better
and and and that's just that's that comes with an
environment and a level of accountability. He can't be afraid
of your best players, like you know you can't. You

(36:40):
can't be afraid of your best players. I don't think
any coach you know that's trying to to to win
at the highest levels or create a culture of you know,
coaching and accountability is going to shy away from being
you know, from coaching.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
His best players.

Speaker 7 (36:58):
I've always thought you're you're only going to be as
good in your ability and your willingness to coach your
best players.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
And the great thing for us.

Speaker 7 (37:05):
Is our best players are highly coachable.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Benchi FINCHI rolsh Memphis this Evening, Wild Tampa Bay Lightning
this evening. That one's on kfam as those teams approach
the playoffs and hopefully are formidable in said postseason KFA
in Sports talk Time eleven forty five.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Back after this, it was a talker Tuesday nine to
noon via the free iHeartRadio app Northern Fire Grillin and
Barbecue Supply. I asked, Hey, if I told you that
the Vikings would add Kyler Murray to the quarterback room,
what do you think, Well, a bunch of talkbacks we've
already played. Here's a few more before one of you
walks away with a gift card.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Hey, guys, Max for Megan, Here for me.

Speaker 8 (37:46):
Kyler Murray is the best option for this team because
he's the youngest option.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
If we get Aaron Rodgers, if we.

Speaker 8 (37:52):
Get Gino Smith and JJ doesn't turn out to be
the guy, we're in the same boat for next season.
Kyler at least gives us a chance for next season,
and he can develop because he's only twenty eight. And
also right now, I think Cala Marie's a better quarterback
fact than Jaj McCarthy is, because JJ just hasn't proved
it yet.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
So that's my take. Appreciate you, Bud.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Meanwhile, big hitter Shfty Adam Schefter ESPN. Yeah, he tweeted
six minutes ago the Minnesota Vikings are now open to
trading Pro Bowl edge rusher Jonathan Grenard per sources. Okay,
they would like to keep Grenard, but they also have
salary cap issues they're working through that have led to

(38:38):
these trade conversations. That's from Schefty. H Darnold out of
the shotgun four man rush hit again.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
He'sdacked again when the.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Ball came out, dive on at Vikings come on. The
ball is bouncing about it the forty five Seattle recovered
it back at the forty five yard line, so that's
going to be a lot of eight yards. That is
Darnald's six fumble this year. He's lost four. He had
no idea where Dallas Turner was coming from.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Dallas Turner though talkbacks that he left.

Speaker 9 (39:14):
Indeed, all right, this is Andy from Minneapolis and Kyler
Murray would be an unmitigated disaster. Think of a Josh
Freeman situation. I know Koc is the quarterback whisperer, but
you need to yell at a Kyler Murray not whisper
It would just not work.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
So we've played a handful of those today. Yeah, from
what you've seen with the voluminous amount that came into
the free iHeart Audio app, would you say a majority
of them are Kyler Yes, Kyler you know? Or in
between the majority of them I would say are no, No,
thank you. Including to put a rap on a talker Tuesday,

(39:58):
somebody's walking away with a a Northern Fire Grilling and
Barbecue supply gift card twenty five bucks for being the
tastiest talkback on a talker Tuesday. This was an interesting take.

Speaker 10 (40:09):
Here's Damon a nord O Pa Damon from Princeton.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
Here.

Speaker 10 (40:14):
I believe that Kyler Murray will be coming to Minnesota
for a couple of reasons. One, last few years, the
Vikings have brought in a punter to compete with Ryan Right,
so Kyler Murray would be perfect throwing up all those passes.
And the second would be is we can get him
on a bat minimum. So the Twins might decide to

(40:35):
sign him because he's a heck of a baseball player
as well.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
I always love that one. How does that lose?

Speaker 1 (40:42):
That is next dimensional think game, well done, and that's
why Damon's a winner today gets twenty five bucks to
Northern Fire Northern firebbq dot com with the jokes and
all of that. The call of duty right now, just
taking the temperature of the Vikings fan base kind of
negative on the idea of Kyler Murray. Whether it's the fit,

(41:02):
it's what we know from a far attitude wise, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
The complexity of the scheme.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
But I wanted to dig into that a bit via
the talkback machine this morning.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Pa, it's hot.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
I mean I didn't realize until I was flying back
from Denvery yesterday how how real people felt The Anthony
Richardson situation at the combine became Yeah, maybe it is reel,
but I mean you got decent names tied to it, like, hey,
you know, think about this, it's just so much Gino
Smith's in there.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
We just heard Aaron Rodgers mentioned.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Well see the way you went down the road with
with Gino during guessline.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I know we're running out of time, but that kind
of tells.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
You it's a Max from Egan, and he mentioned and
he was pressionate about it, kind of the idea of
I want the youngest guy. And I mentioned that too,
kind of the idea of if this works, that's a
long term option. But if you were to go with
a Gino, maybe that lends credence to the idea that
Nine's going to be fine, that we have not lost
touch with nine, and so therefore Gino or another Derek

(42:02):
Carr wrangling him out of retirement, that that would potentially
be the short term option while we watched the kid
continue to grow.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Thank you for the good times on this talkback talker Tuesday.
Thank you very much for listening if then or when
you do in order produces, and I'm Paul Allen. May
God bless you than all of your families, and thank
you for listening to k F A M.

Speaker 11 (42:21):
Have a great day, Temple off. Time to nod.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
The case over. That's a fact. What did I do wrong?
Personal file whipping? I know right?

Speaker 5 (42:51):
Goodness of money, Leave them up?

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Podcast Today's Paul Allen Show, or listen back to previous
show and interview.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
So I go into the iHeartRadio app or kis the
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