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Speaker 2 (00:41):
Time now four.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Five questions? Well, actually three, but five sounds like more
than four.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Question number one Contender.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Pretender. He kind of hard to get to all these,
but I just love doing the Contender of pretender bits.
I want to just keep playing that into the ground.
So question number one Common. Caleb Williams completed twenty twenty
nine passes for three hundred and four yards to Tuddies.
He also had no interceptions as the Bears beat the
Panthers thirty six to ten. Common Chicago improved to three
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and two. Are the Bears a contender or pretender.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Turning my mic. That'll help the there pretend they're contender.
I do believe they are.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
You convinced me that they have some some real good
receiving talent, at least you know, it's thought to be
going into the season. I can't remember what you said
about the running game. I do know that their defense
isn't bad. And Williams was considered. Everybody said he's a
generational talent, he's going to be a superstar, and he
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kind of got off to a slow start. I remember
we even looked at a story here on the Grum
that said, did Chicago draft the wrong qb?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You know everybody you know? And I get it. It's clickbait.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
You want to get people to go to your site,
click on it, see an ad. AD pays the person.
The company goes. Look at how many people clicked onto
our story. They all saw your ad. You got to
even give us more money. I know how it works.
It was way too early to decide whether Caleb Williams
was do they draft the wrong No, they drafted the
right quarterback. And I don't think he's coming. I don't
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think he's taking a step back. He's really really good.
I think the Bears now, are they contender to win
the Big Game? I don't know about that, but there's
certainly a contender to make postseason play.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I believe that. I do.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I think you could see four teams out of the
NFC North make postseason play.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Really four.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Has it ever happened before? Can it even happen?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Well?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Can it even happen?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
When Nick Ken? Yes, because you can. There's going to
be three wild cards, so it could only be done
anything in the modern because back in the day you
only have two wild cards with the six team. Now
you have the seven teams, so it can be done now.
But that would be very challenging.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
It would be very challenging, but maybe it could happen.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Let's move on to the next one. Then, the Washington
Commanders routed the Cleveland Brown thirty four to thirteen to
improve to four and one. They have the second best
record in the NFC. Common as Washington a contender or pretender,
and I agree.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
They are also a contender, you know. And again it's
a released small sample size all that, but the high
and again I'm just seeing the highlight packages. I'm sure
Jade Williams, Jade and Daniels, overthrew a guy here, overthrew
a guy there, under threw overthrow everywhere, a bad pass,
but he looked awful good again yesterday had some nice numbers.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
They win and these young kids.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I people always also big strip to God in the
NFL that you know, it was always saying that those
old retired quarterbacks who struggled earlier in their career, so
they just name everybody automatically struggles. No, some of these
kids don't know the difference between college and the pro.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
So many of these college.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Teams run pro set offenses anyway, and you're playing r
now again, are the college teams you're facing a stack
defensively as the NFL teams are. Probably not, But there's
still a lot of talent out there.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I just think, I.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Just think if a kid's the goods, if he's a
good player, he's going to learn.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
He's gonna learn quick. It's it's not gonna take forever.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
And at least those two guys have shown so far
that there hasn't there hasn't been a very big learning
curve so far.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
They're both good examples of why those top picks in
the draft now are such premium picks and you can
get a haul trade wise for them because correct those
two teams have their franchise quarterbacks on rookie contracts for
the next four and a half years, and you can
build contenders around that during that time. You can indeed
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one more another team in the rookie quarterback comedy, the
Broncos with bow Nicks, they improved a three and two.
They took down lots of Vegas thirty four eighteen. Is
Denver a.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Contender or pretender?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
You know? I in watching the extensive an extended waiting
all day for Sunday night pregame show because they had
an hour lightning delay.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So they went back.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
To Uh, who's the guy that used to coach the
redhead that coached Dallas?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Jason Garrett.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Jason Garrett's one of the guys in the panel.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
There's a guy that used to play defensive back for
New England, Rodney Harrison. No, he's no, he's now on
the sideline. They bumped him to the sideline. His guy
named mccordy Courtrey. Oh, is that Devin McCarty. Devin McCarty.
Then I don't know the gal's name. You know, they
have the host that was a gal HOSTNT and.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Then the other guy is a former quarterback. The hell's
his name? He was just a okay, I think anyway,
they're going on and on and on and on.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
And replaying games, and they were just basically saying, is
it hassleback?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
That's no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
They they went they were saying that not Phil Simms,
the other Simms. When they're another Simms name quarterback Chris
sims Chris Simsyeah, that's right, Chris Sims so, and they
were going on.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Someone of them was just saying, you know, Sean Payton
is the greatest coach of all time. Look what he's
done in Denver team.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Remember they gave up seventy points Denver did without when
when it was Peyton the coach then whatever was he?
He blew everything up because the defense was so bad.
And now they're now they're playing really good defense. Yeah,
I don't know how much knicks you know, I know
he's he's had his moments too. Maybe you you're a
fantasy guy, you probably played closer attention. Does he look
like the goods too? Has he been getting I'm I'm
(06:50):
not ready to claim. Okay, the offensive set of the
ball for Denver a contender. I know bo Nicks is.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I think he's showing up better in second halves than
first halves of some of these games. But he's also
had some he's had some duds, and he's not you know,
he's one of those that he's just throwing within ten
yards of the line of scrimmage all day long. But
the defensive set of the ball is so good that
they are going to be able to be competitive. Yeah,
you know, the best cornerback in football, and he had
one hundred yard interception return yesterday and pass a.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Certain Yeah is a certain or certain I don't even know,
but he's good.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I do know that.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I also they also said one of the guys, I
think it was mcquartrey is how you say his name?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
I think it's Devin mccordy.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Mccordy. What he said was, I'm getting sour cream everywhere.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I'm really sorry about this Tiey probably should have eiten
my lunch before he got on the air. He thinks
Denver might have the best secondary in pro football sure,
top to bottom. And it's nice having a great secondary,
you know why, because if you've got a great secondary,
you can teams can try to throw on you all
day long, and then you can.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Then you can blitz.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I think Denver's blitz more than any other team in
pro football. And you can because you know, even if
your guys get caught one on one back there, like
they pick up the.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Blitz, well, your guy can cover all those people.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
It's still you're gonna get They're gonna complete some passes,
but more times than not, you're probably gonna have the
guy covered.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
It's gonna work out.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So yeah, that's why I love defense, and so that's
why the Vikings are where they are.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
That's why Denver now is starting to play some pretty
good football. That sound question is number two. We're it's
time now for Oh look at the NK.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
See Links led by ten late in the second quarter,
but we're outscoring sixty one to forty one over the
last twenty three plus minutes. They loss of the Sun
ninety two eighty two and game four of their semi
final series. The Link shots sixty four and made nine
of fourteen three pointers in the first half, but then
just shot thirty four and a half percent and made
one of twelve threes in the second. The decisive Game
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five is tomorrow. Night at Target Center, with the winner
taking on the New York Liberty for the championship. Common
what went wrong last night and as tomorrow night must
watch TV.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
There's an old cliche that says the best two words
in sports game seven.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Well, in w n b A, the best two words
sport are game five five. Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I trust our club at home. You know it's Connecticut's
obviously it. I mean they're they're to two for a reason.
They're two all for a reason. They're probably evenly matched
a couple of good clubs. I like our chances at home.
We've got the Coach of the year. Uh, did we
have the m v P of the Year Defensive Player
Defensive Players MBF. She's our MBF MVF.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So I I like it.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I'm gonna I'm gonna duck and bunny it up. I'm
gonna pull, I'm gonna say the Links win. It's only
must see TV for me if it's if I've already
seen both episodes of The Rockford Files.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Otherwise I'm watching Rockford File.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Well, you can watch Rocker rock Fer Files, and then
you can listen to the Links tomorrow night right here
on the fan. That's a big one. So they're gonna
be on the fan tomorrow night. And of course you
can always hear them on the links Sam on the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's what I'll do. We got done for one more.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
They you can make it a quick evenough you've already
talked about it.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Question number three, it's time now for it's a low
down in Dinky down.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
The Gophers football team upset number eleven UFC twenty four
seventeen Saturday at Huntington Bank Stadium and turned Carora made
the mistake of not going. It was the Gophers first
win over the top fifteen team since they beat number
nine Auburn in the outback ball following the twenty nineteen season.
It also snapped a six game Big Ten losing streak.
Common What sticks out to you from the Gophers win
over the Trojans just.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It was nice for the program. You know, I'm I don't.
I'm not one of those guys.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
It's tough love Covenant only.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I feel so sorry for the kids and for the
team and the program and the coach and in Goldie
Gopher all that. It's just it's like, I got do
they worry about me?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
If I take a beating in the ratings, which doesn't happen,
but let's say I did.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Would they feel bad for me?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Well, I kind of struggling over there.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Right, No, so why should I feel bad for them?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
But here there is a little under this grupph exterior
in this gravelly voice that's getting bad. The cold is
almost gone, by the way.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I'm a softie.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
And so it was nice to see the team win,
you got I mean, had they when they went for
we talked about this, had they when they went for
it on fourth and goal from like, you know, the
six inch line, had they not made it and USC
went on to win, it would have just been that
would have been about as bad as it could get
(11:44):
for the program where it's been, where it's going under fleck,
you know what. Maybe not not bottomy now, but it
would be pretty close.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
And so, uh, it's a nice win.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
It was good to see and the kids got to
storm the field and go gopers and then KLA. They're
not any good, right, UCLA's I gotta won at four
are a terrible team and a terrible sit.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
We can maybe get on a little two game winning
streak here like it. It's good. I don't even know
if that's what you ask.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
That's it for today's edition of five questions.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well, actually three questions, but five sounds like more than four.
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Speaker 2 (13:12):
I think there are a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I think he has well over one point five million followers,
the legendary Mark Rosen. And it's amazing what I miss
by not following. I don't follow anybody on Twitter. I
don't even care what I have to say, much less
than anybody else has to say.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
But I mean, here's what I'm missing with Mark Rosen.
Tend to be.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I was also gonna there's also a lot you don't miss.
There's a lot of Mark. Here's what Mark Rosen said.
This is one of his tweet during the game. This
defense exclamation mark, exclamation mark, exclamation mark.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Oh boy, that's insightful.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Really gave me a real, real insight on how Mark
felt the game was going and thinks he noticed me
and that's what we tend him to that game to
cover it for good or ill, and he came up
with this defense or how about this, Thank goodness for Reiker.
The rest of the Viking special teams have been a
hot mess all game.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Hot mess.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
That's great insight, isn't it. Here's another definitely momentum swing here.
Let's see a B flow defense can change that. You're right,
I'm not missing anything, but that's what you get from
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the legendary one.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
We call that Captain obvious.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, well that's why I look at those and I'm
like this defense. Now, I'm not saying I have a
lot of means. I at least it's a cheap shot
or too a little. Maybe Caesar Omrrow is the joker.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
You and I have the same thought yesterday because you
posted the picture right after I'd posted the Jeff, oh,
did you the jiff? Because as Rogers is throwing pick
after pick after pick, I tweeted question, basically, for the
roofs out there, can we use the Caesar Ramiro jiff
even though it's not the Packers but Aaron Rodgers, right,
does that carry over? Because I still want to use
(15:14):
it for him.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
That's why for one of mine, I said for old
times sake. That's what That's how I labeled one of
mine for old timesake, and then I had it there.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
At the same time.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, it was for it for all time.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Well, we think a lot of like we've been working
together for twenty four years now or twenty five. We've
been together so long. I remember that time we went
to a Wolves game at the Metrodome and we saw.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
The Kobe jerseys in the artist.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
That's how long you and I know.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
That's when they were building the pyramids too.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
That's exactly right in the in the eighteen hundreds. I
wish we had that. We have to sell that one.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
We have the gore.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
The ones that got deleted were the old ones. I
still should have everything after twenty thirteen. Yeah, but the Pyramids.
One was not that long ago.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I the esoteric approach sometimes borders on.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's the word I'm looking.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
No.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I had a bunch of other ones deleted to I
don't get what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Borders on insanity? It it it? What's the word?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
What? As Paul Harvey said, anybody the pass its some
of the things that that the esoteric right. I can't help,
but these just pop into my head at the esoterical approach.
I don't even know how they happen. And and some
of them seem like that's well, that's a little over
the top common, that's crazy. But if you remember Tien
Toby during wasn't that long ago, I suggested, you know
(16:50):
what I think the Viking should do, so spending money
on a quarterback, why don't you go out and sign
like four or five really big name running backs, the
really good ones. The Derek Henry's as the world how
many how many guys were on the how many of
those those running we had? Derrick Henry was one, Austin Eckler,
who weren't the four or five big name running backs
(17:10):
that were available that's signed Joe Mixon, Jones, Josh Jacobs,
Josh Jacobs, I thought there were even a couple of others.
I thought there were a couple of other big yeah, right,
But I thought they were even more than that. I
thought there was one, yeah, Saquon Barkley, Okay, And I
suggested sign four or five of those because each one
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of them was getting anywhere between six million and ten million.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
That was also you know, you sign a quarterback for
fifty million dollars a.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Year, okayn't signed five running backs for let's say, on
average of eight million dollars a year, because some were
seven some more ten let's eight eight million dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
That's forty million dollars a year. That's less.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
And then you can go into a running game. Then
you keep guys fresh, less risk of injury. Get in,
get out. And I think you laughed and mocked and
ridiculed me and rose into everybody did.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
There were a handful of I should say more than
handful listeners.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I think a lot of the listeners understand that there
are a lot of different ways to crack an egg.
And Aaron Jones goes down yesterday, and what happened. Our
running game became non existent. We almost lost that game.
Now he should be back and he might get the
You know, there's even part of me if you'll remember,
(18:25):
Aaron Jones was really good last five six weeks of
the season. Last year, he was one of He was
instrumental in leading the Packers not only to a postseason birth,
but a first round upset of the Dallas Cowboys. He
was fresh, was his legs were we were turning and churning.
(18:45):
And I think a large part of that had to
do with he missed a good chunk of the season.
I think he missed five six games, maybe more during
the middle of the year because of injury. So then
he comes back and he hasn't had the wear and
tear of a seventeen game season, right. So the esoteric
approach said, well, if you have five running backs or
(19:06):
four for seventeen games and they're sharing the love, say
it's four, that's only a quarter of the runs. Now
I know you're come back, and there could be something
to it was, well, these guys got egos. They want
to be the bell Web, they want to be the
Bell Kyle, they want to be the guy that carries
the ball at the time.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And then I don't want those guys.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I still believe there are running backs out there, especially
the older ones that have been through the grind, that
their bodies have been beaten up. They're clinging just because
a they want to win a championship and they want
to make as much money as they can because they've
been underpaid as it is right, they just haven't made
the kind of money they should make because their positions
are considered a bit antiquated in a passing league, and
(19:45):
their shelf life is very short. So if I'm maybe
every running back wouldn't think this way, But I think
if your agent explained it to you and said, look,
you go play for Minnesota. Yeah, you're only going to
carry the ball six seven times a game, but just
think about how much long your career will last. How
much and you're still gonna make the same amount of money.
And they're going to try to blend like three or
four really good running backs along with a good passing game.
(20:10):
This offense could be multi dimensional. No one's ever seen
anything like it before.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
A lot of people that are saying they've never seen anything.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Like it before. No one's ever tried it before. What
do we always praise coaches.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
For innovative offense, innovative defense. Look what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
All I know is had had Aaron Jones left the
game yesterday with the pointer and incomes Dereck Henry.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I don't think we lose much.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Well, we might not have Stefan Gilmore making the game
sealing interception.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I know.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I would have said, well, no.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You hurt your stealing abits take and that's fine.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
As you were saying it, That's what I would have
been responded.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Of course, you would have been, well, you didn't say
it last time when I brought this for You never
said we couldn't have defensive backs.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
You never said that back then.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
It was just it was ridiculous, because well it's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
But on top of that, yes, you wouldn't be able
to forward all the pieces on defense, which is the
main reason they're five and ow.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Well you can, you just don't.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
You can.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
You can.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
You can spend less money in other spots too. You
don't have to pay your wide receiver thirty eight million dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You could have told him this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Take a little less, we'll bonus he up. There's ways
to get around it. Timmy there's a sellar camp. I
know you want to think that it's just because you didn't.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Think of string running backs where we want to invest
our money.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
It's it's because but they're not fifth string. They're all
running all the time, they're being rotated. It's a brilliant idea,
and somebody's gonna do it someday. And when they do
and win the big game, then you can apologize to me.
But all I know is if we had it never
happens like that, I will apologize. You should, well, I
don't know if anybody's smart. I don't know if anybody
is smart enough to do it. It's the esset and
I understand it. You don't understand the esoteric approach either.
(21:48):
I get most people don't. That's what I'd be doing
and it would be great, but it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Let's just hope that uh, our guy stays healthy all year.
So we saw without them, we ain't got anybody that
can place.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
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Speaker 2 (22:43):
Why did you not go to the golfer game? No,
you're you're a student at the University of Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Correct, Yes, I am.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Do you believe do you bleed maroon and gold or no?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
I mean just enough to go to the tailgates, but.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
You did not go into the stadium. It wasn't even
kidding me. You doubted this goper club after.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Absolutely I sold my ticket. No, yeah, I was like,
we're going to lose.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
I'm just telling my ticket. I'm just going to go
and watch the game at the bar with my friends.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Do you want to apologize to j Fleck and the
Minnesota Golden Goal for football team? And these kids work
really hard. They're they're laying on the line. Sometimes it
doesn't work. Guys in their training room.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Spanling is what it is really is.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I know, guys, we doubted them. I know most of
my friends I went to the game, they left early.
All were like, eh, we're going to lose?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Do you have season tickets? I?
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Do you have season tickets?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I think you should give them up.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I probably should. I don't deserve them.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
You don't deserve them. Believe you. Let me guess?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Are you really our fans? We're at UCLA now? And
then when don't we home again?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Do we know? Tennee? Can you look at the schedule?
Do we know?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Do we have any indication? When the Minnesota Golden Golfers
return home to the comfy confines of Huntington Bank Stadium.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
It looks like they are a little break after Akala okay,
and then the host Maryland on October twenty six.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Will you be at the Maryland game on October twenty sixth?
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Maybe it's maybe probably, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Actually maybe probably, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
You're not going to it kind of depends.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
What'd you get? You sold your ticket? What did you
get for? Can I ask?
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Forty five bucks?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
What was it? What's the face value?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Well?
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Season tickets are one hundred bucks per game? No total?
Speaker 4 (24:21):
What?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Yeah? So I made back half the price of your
season ticket?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You're majoring in finance or economics, I.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Should I guess absolutely, I should be because.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I'd do the same thing, I guess because you can
always just watch it on TV.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Exactly how many tickets can you get? How many season tickets?
Speaker 5 (24:41):
What do you You can only get one one for you?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah? And by the way, enough on the I mean
I still watch you to to to Texas at the
brad shod Bride Caven text line at six four six
eight six. But you don't have to keep complimenting me.
In ripping Tennebee for his taking my take on the
running back stae, this one says stick to hockey. Tennabe
comments take on having a stable of running backs is brilliant.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Along with CJ.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Hamis Vike, squad could have one of the greatest rushing
attacks in NFL history. We never say we have too
many wide receivers. Well, you know, why does Addison want
to share the ball with JJ? Does this guy want
to share the ball with that guy?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
You have? You have? You have?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
You have Cooper Cup. Now they're both hurt, but they
have Cup and Akiyua no what's his nameka Nakua? Well,
was sometimes one of those guys only gets three or
he doesn't want to play there. You can't spend that
much money on wide receivers. That's too much money to
spend on wide receivers.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
So there's two wide receivers on the field every time,
and you think it's too much to have two good
wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Well as you're spending too much.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yeah, because the guy does to get five running backs
for one or two positions on the field, Yep, you.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Can run it.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
You ever heard of a wishbone? What's wrong with running
three running backs at the same time? See, you just
can't get did you know tennaby? Do you know there
was a time? What do you think of the forward pass?
Let me guess back in nineteen oh six, you would
have laughed at that throwing the ball down the field
to a guy that's running. Well, it's preposterous. That'll never work,
That's what you would have said. You're one of those
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guys I can tell because it had never been done before.
Just because it's never been done before doesn't mean it
can't be done.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
I agree with that, But in this case, I think
there's a reason that's never been done before.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
No, No, that's it's because no one could. It's nobody
ever did.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
It's a good use of your research.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Nobody ever did a four six defense before Buddy Ryan's
forty six defense.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Nobody ever did it before. Why would you do something
like that?
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Then when they did, everybody copied it.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
It's it's.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
It's not that you're you're paying everybody on the field.
So you're paying everybody on the field pretty good money.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
So you're paying you're paying.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Three wide receivers. What what is right now? San Francisco
paying their wide receivers. But in the grand total.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
A lot, Yeah, Devo and Brandon a yuk, Yep, it's
a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Robby both combined making more than five running backs would
at eight million dollars a year. They're they're probably both
making close to forty million dollars a year. It can
be done, you just because it just like they just
like they've always said, well, you can't.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Do this with a salary.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Really, rather spend the monk money on the two ot
receivers are gonna be on the field the whole time,
as opposed to the three running backs that won't be
on the field for the vast majority of time.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
You don't need them, but that's the the whole idea
is keeping them fresh so you have a new guy
coming in all the time. And if you get an injury,
you got a guy to take his place. If we
lose Aaron Jones, we're in big trouble. Or do you
think Tyler Chandler can what is his name, ty Taylor?
Do you think he can pick up the slot? Do
you think this running game.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
They get to drop off from Mary Jones and Taylor?
But I would say that with any position.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, and then what happens.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
And if you're spending fifty million on five running backs,
then you're gonna have big drop offs at other positions.
This one where where's the dropoff? You're not gonna have
money for other positions?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
So okay, well, sometimes you got to give a little
to get a little, right where if you have three
high paid wide receivers and a high paid quarterback, well
you're gonna have some money and for some of the
other positions you're gonna be able to pay.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
For when you're paying a guy. How many teams have
three high paid wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
When you're when you're paying a quarter by fifty million dollars,
you don't have a lot of room for some other players. Yeah,
there's nothing you can say that change my mind about it.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
And because and vice versa.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Right, but there's but you're doing it because because it's
never been done.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
It's the same thing you don't have to do with
never being done. It's just one of the most insane
takes you've ever had.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Well, no, it's it's it's a great takes. It's a
wonderful take. It's like, let me guess you would if
back in nineteen oh seven, when the Right brothers were
going to get on a plane, you said, well, that's
the stupidest thing I've ever seen. This man can never fly,
But they did. I think a salary cap guy could
figure out how to fit four or five wide running
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backs onto a roster.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Make it four if you wanted to say three. At
least I still wouldn't do it. But at least I
could listen to the argument when you started.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
At five, wouldn't you do it if it was three? You?
Speaker 3 (28:44):
If you, if I told you right now, you could
have Saquon Barkley, Aaron Jones, and Derek Henry on your
team in the running back room.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
What would be the negative to that?
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Tell me? There is, well, still all three aren't going
to come here for that amount of money. So that's
just that's all they're making. Now, they're each making ten
million dollars, want a place so they can make more
money on their next contract. You are limiting their stats.
Most players that don't play a lot, it's typically because
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they're not great players and they're not producing. So then
teams are gonna spend lots of money on players that
are How much.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Do you think they'll produce when they're each carrying the
ball a third of the time and not getting hurt
and playing all season. Aaron Jones stats, Let's just say
he's out out for a couple of weeks. Yeah, his
stats are going to go down. Is he not a
good player?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
The NFL?
Speaker 3 (29:34):
You're not giving personnel. They're gonna say, well, Derek Henry
only rushed for nine hundred and eighty three yards and
you have as many carriers, he's.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Not a very good player anymore.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
It's preposterous.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Of course, he's a great player.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
He stayed healthy and fresh the entire season.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
You have one guy going one you pound the rock.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
You get an offensive line and you just pound the
rock with what money and mix it up with your
passing too, and then you have you have a good
passing attaches now you can do them both at the
same time. Somebody's going to eventually do Why do they
all say gotta have a good running game, but then
when the running back gets hurt, they're out of contention.
Running back goes down, they're done. They don't have it anymore.
They don't have a running back that's good nothing.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Our team's really out of content on their running backs.
Are there examples of that?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, pretty much. They all say we got to be
able to run the most.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Have you seen the list of teams that have won
the Big Game in the last ten fifteen years. Not
a lot of great running backs on those teams.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Okay, then then your solution instead of having Sam darnofull
ten to spend fifty million on Kirk Cousins, because that's
what you gotta docu if you don't have.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
A good running game. I didn't say that.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Well, but if your passing game is going to carry.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
You a million of Pat Mahomes but not Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
There's only one Pat Mahomes. They've got it. He's locked in.
You're the one that doesn't.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
You're telling me you'd rather have the rookie quarterback under
his rookie contract.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Yeah, if he's elite, Yes, I want I want an
elite quarterback, regardless of whether I have to spend or not.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Okay, it's the.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Most important position in sports, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, ask as Phil Simms? How important was to be
a really good quarterback? Phil Sims was average at best.
What did they do in Dallas or in New York?
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Pounded the rock?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
They ran the foot.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
It's a different game back then, it wasn't that much different.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
You can still run the ball. You can still run
the ball a lot.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
The rules have changed a favorite passing.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Markets, but you can still run the ball. You don't
you don't have to not run it. Why does every
team say we have to be able to run the ball,
Because you have to be able to run the ball.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
You'll come around. You're being You're you're being stubborn, because yeah,
that's fine.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
There is a zero point zero zero zero one percent
chance I'll ever come around on this one.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, why know? And it's because you think from a fantasy.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Football perspective, as a fantasy football and you you like
guys that get you know, if you're running back is
sharing the backfield and only gets forty five quality yards,
you want.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
I feel like I you're running a hockey team and
you say, let's spend ten million dollars each on five centers.
Two of them are going to play because we want
to arrest them and make sure, and then the next
game we rotate those centers in because they're fresh. Like No, no,
NHL GM would do that, because it's insane.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I must be one of the most flawed analogies I've
ever heard in my entire life, as opposed to your
right brothers analogy. No, that's a good one, because you
said it's never been done before. There's a reason why
it's never been done before. Well, a lot of things
have never been done before and have happened.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Yeah, and a lot of things have ever done before
because they're really bad ideas.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
This is a good idea, trust me.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
It's It is like me shampooing my if I had hair,
me shampooing my hair with hot lava. It's never been
done before. I should try it.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I think it has been tried before. I think Cadan
did try and it didn't work for them at all.
That's why they stopped doing that. You know, again, I
don't like picking on I really don't like to pick
on specific media people, but I have to do it
in this case. You know, the Twins had an epic fail.
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They went twelve and thirty seven over their last hover
many games. That is, it's at forty thirty nine, forty
games whatever. They at one point had like a ninety
five percent chance of making the playoffs, and they totally
collapsed in all phases of the game. The starting pitching
wasn't as especially in the last couple of weeks. Some
of those starting pitchers did not give us the kind
of performances Pablo and ober Bull fell a little bit short.
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Bullpen was a mess in the everyday line. It wasn't
very good. And Jim Sue and a Steam Khmasy's terrific
at what he does. He basically wrote a piece over
the way. Did you see it, Tennaby, I read it. Yeah,
he wrote a piece of said, really, the only thing
we're missing is a is a professional middle of the
lineup hitter like Nelson Cruse, like Nelson Cruise. If we
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have that, we're we're all good. And I guess you
you can have that theory. He's the only one that
would be like suggesting you should have five running backs.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
On a football team. It to me.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
It means if you watch this team, so you have
one professional hitter in the middle of the lineup, but
what about the four guys in front of them and
the four guys behind him. If they're swinging the bats
like they were lastly, it doesn't matter if you have
run really good hitter in there. As a matter of fact,
there were moments during that last few weeks where Correa
went on a bit of a tear and Buckston went
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on a bit of a tear.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Where they had two or three several good games in
a row. The team needs so much more than that.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I think they overrate a lot of their young talent,
like a lot of teams do. I mean, it's not
easy putting a big, a big time baseball team together.
It isn't because you draft guys, you bring them up
through the system, you nurture them, and you know they're
all highly regarded, especially if you draft them high at
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high school or college or whatever it is. But it
is a tough sport. Not every guy pans out. As
we've seen again this year. The the heart of that
lineup was supposed to be Lewis, Buckston and Korea.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
They're all injury Redal. Those three guys have injury issues.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
We know Buston has had it his entire career, and
even when he's been healthy, he's streaky. Lewis he's I
think he's missed more games than he's played, I think,
and he had his moments. That's why we got excited
about him, because I think it was the number one
or number two pick overall or prospect and all of baseball,
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not just the Twins prospects, but all of baseball. That's
why LaBelle wouldn't trade him if you could guarantee him
World Series victory. And I could see why once I
watched him play in the success that he had. I
it was, what was that like five Grand Slams in
a period about thirty games. I mean, the guy was
and he hit for power, and he hit for average,
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and you know, early on his fielding was good. Thought this,
you have a cornerstone to the team. He's not healthy,
and then even when he was, he slumped horribly the
last two months of the season, or at least last
month month and a half. He even said something to
the effect of I'm tired, I'm tuckered.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
It's like you missed most of the season.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
How are you you know, I think trying to do
the old it's one hundred and sixty two game season,
trying to pace ourselves when you were out for most
of that in Korea.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
You know, he's I think he's damaged goods. Tennaby.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
He played most of last year, almost the entire year,
with planta fasci itis.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
And most people are.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Most people.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Have have attributed that to his planta fasci itis.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
It was enough to affect him where.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
He because he had a awful regular season.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Postseason, he was brilliant.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
He carried us in that first round victory against it's
either Houston or Texas, I don't remember, No, mean it
was Toronto, Toronto.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
We won that series. He was brilliant.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Right then this year he decided he couldn't play through
it planta fasci itis. His other foot, the one I
think that's where's bad ankle is where he has you know,
the he's got the metal, the bolts, the spikes and
his ankle and stuff. And maybe the Giants and Mets
knew at that price they weren't ready to pay that.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Kind of a money for the guy's damage of goods.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
So your three best players in that lineup are all
injury riddled, and your guys like Miranda Larnick, Walner and
Edward Julian those your other for us seven of your
every day Then you have your catcher, those are supposed
to be your everyday players. That's kind of your lineup.
And then the Margo thing was an awful experiment. Did
he set a record for the most pinshit pinchhit appearances
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all that train? I think it was like he had
thirty all together, where he was zero for thirty in
pinshit situations.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Never been done before.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
So we we spend some money ill advised, including we
traded for the the pitcher at the beginning of the
season that never ended up being he didn't pitch at
all for us. Paddock was rarely available to play. The
trade we made at the trade deadline was we had
the guy had more wild pitches than he threw strikes.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I mean, it was just awful.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
And so you've heard me say this so many times, Tennaby,
and I think you tend to agree with this. I
know you don't agree with the running back thing, but
I know you tend to agree with when you add
like if you have you know, four or five six
players in your lineup that have pretty good seasons.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
You start going, WHOA, what if they keep.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Doing you know, not only are they going to do that,
they're probably gonna get better in some cases they might,
but other cases they won't.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
And others stay the same. And none of those guys
consistently hit.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
The ball well enough where you would say these guys
are mainstays in the lineup. I you know, I think
maybe somebody else wrote.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Was it Roycey?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
I think Roycy And you know I love Patrick. He
wrote basically, tear down the whole team again it and
start over from scratch, which.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
You might have to do. I don't know. They're not
going to raise the payroll they've made that.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Gleaman did a real nice piece, you know, we read
from his transcript where you know, Joe Pohl had met
with the media after the season, and Gleaman, you know,
he kept at it. He didn't just ask one question
and not go with a follow up. He asked about,
you know, the payroll and investing and the morale of
the fans, and and Joe just kept saying, we're not
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going to talk about that. And he said something E fact,
we're going to have a better product than we had
last year. But they are not going to They are
not going to increase the payroll, and you know, I
get it. Look, there are no guarantees the big payroll
is going to get you anything.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
I know.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
The examples are always made of the Dodgers and the
Yankees and their payroll. But just because it didn't work
for that team doesn't mean it can't work for yours.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
And you know, every.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Once in a while, if you look at your club
and go, this is pretty close right here, let's at
least give it the opportunity to let's please try Kansas City. Now,
they lost their opener against the Mighty Yankees six to five,
but that was a club that went out there and
they took some chances, and that relief picture they got
was instrumental in winning that first playoff series. He was
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simply magnificent. And they acquired another player or two who
have also contributed. They've made the team better. They're spending
more money, So sometimes when you make moves and spend money,
it's not always going to guarantee it. But to suggest
that they just need a professional middle of the lineup
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hitter and all as well, right with the world. I
hope that's all it is, because that's all they'll do.
If they even do that, they won't do anything more
than that. They're not going to go out and get
a high end starting pitcher. They're not going to get
an all star everyday player. I don't think they'll go
out and get a tip notch bullpen guy.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
They'll get.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
They'll go the way they've always gone, the way they
use They've done it for years when every single every
single general manager or president of baseball operations that has
worked there has always had his hands tied financially. So
it's like, let's go out and get the guy who
three or four years ago he was.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
One of the best pitchers in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Now he's had some injury issues and he struggled as
of late. But maybe we can catch lightning in a
bottle and in return to those thrilling days of yesteryear
and suddenly we we've got a top notch pitcher and
we got him on the cheap because we're getting him
on the rebound, and that that doesn't work very often either.
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I'd rather take my chances again. Would this have guaranteed anything?
Who was the guy that I kept begging for that.
The Giants ended up signing won the cy Young twice
Blake snow.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
When I was suggesting Snaill earlier, people were ripping me.
You see what Blake Snaill's done this year? Common? Maybe? Yeah,
I saw what he'd been doing earlier in the year
wasn't very good.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
But you see what he did the second half of
the season. He was basically the best picture in baseball.
I think that would have helped that. We could have
used that, but we don't do those kinds of things.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
So that's all right.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
We got another hour to go. We'll get back to
some Viking football talk. I got some other ideas for
the Purple what they should do personnel wise. Do you
think the five running back stable is wacky?
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Way?
Speaker 3 (42:20):
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