December 2, 2025 • 42 mins
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Very good?
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Are you from there?
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Did he hear that?
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There's a lot of legendary from too many to mention
to them all, Tom Friedman, Coen Brothers.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Coen Brothers, who else?
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Well, I mean you, I mean there's Jeff Diamond, Yes,
Jeff Diamond, Jeff Passel, oh Ding, goodness, A list of
legendary people. Well, there was something in the water though.
Right now, I'm from Detroit. I got I got a
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How about you sent me? Oh, you said to me,
how about has you ever heard the story?
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Rosen sends me.
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Texas, says lem Barney, dad of eighty Now right, Lembarney,
legendary defensive back for the Detroit Lions, one of my
I have three sporting heroes, Lembarney, al Kline of Scotti,
LaDue right, and so lem Barney dos. I'm like, oh,
and I'm look up the stories and I search it
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four hours later, the story breaks. Lem Barney's not dead
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rumors of his advice.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Sadly there were.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Carl Eller had to respond and I hadn't even seen
it that one Carl. Carl said, I'm alive, and well,
you know the sickness that people have to post things
like that about individuals. And this was not some kind
of like crackpot thing, I don't. You know, usually you
try to get verified so they don't fall for that.
But it was Barney and Carl Eller, and there was
one other, Steve Tasker I think was the other one.
(03:34):
So I mean, oh, that's hilarious stuff. And so yeah,
when I saw that, you know, Lem Barney's of that
age for sure, it was believable. Yeah, and I was
I thought, oh that's sad. And then you know, then
Pro Football Talking had reposted it, yep, that's Florio's site,
and thinking, oh man, this is right on. And then
literally like half hour or later, like you said, thankfully,
(03:55):
Len Barney's alive, and well, so you got to be careful,
to know the lesson for everybody to be care for
what you read on the nonsense that we see on
social media.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
It's been reported that my career has died, and that's true.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Oh we could verify that we could verify twenty years
ago for a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Twenty where'd you get the last ten? Cryed out loud.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I haven't seen this since the long Thanksgiving weekend.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Well, and here's what I wanted to ask you.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I just happened to get a gander at Vikings game day.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Oh that you're part of. Yeah, and on sink or sale?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Right when they said twenty points and you said sale,
did you think that was for one game or two games?
Speaker 5 (04:36):
I wasn't or three I wasn't sure because they ended
up getting it was a multiple choice question. Yes, I
think I think it was that that was the first one.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
That was the first one, and you thought they'd get
twenty points there, would you know? I mean that was
that was a reach.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yeah, Seattle barely got you know, twenty points. I mean
it was you know that day. We we can talk
about it all. Well, but I go ahead.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Well, I was gonna say it's a tail of two units.
The offense did nothing well, Brosemer struggled mightily. Defense played
really well, they really did. I mean they gave ended
up giving up nineteen Well if you take you know,
in nineteen points, because you take away.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
The extra foy EVENO that doesn't even count. I think
the field goals, the frontal position.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, yeah, so they they played as well as you
could against an offense coming into that game, which was
probably as good as any of the National Football League.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
I think Brian Flores gave the blueprint again to future opponents,
potentially at playoff opponents, how to get the Sam Darnold.
It was almost reminiscent of the Rams playoff game. He was,
he was rattled. I mean, your guest, Blake Cashman and
a number of others, Grenard, they were all. They were
all after they were Afterrom the entire the entire afternoon.
(05:44):
He was, he was, And that's why I wanted them
to kick the field goal when it was fourth and one.
They just let your defense on the field because they're
going to produce more points, I think. But yeah, it
reminded me of the Rams game, and it's kind of
a warning shot for for you know all. You know, listen,
I love Sam Darnold. He did a lot of great
things here last year. But I think what we saw
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in that game was exactly what he saw in the
Rams playoff game. And the offensive line just got bowled
over and Seattle probably has a better offensive line than
what the Vikings presented last year in the playoff time.
But it was another reminder that's also the quality of
your opposition that you play, and the Vikings defense was
dialed in and that's why I wanted him to keep
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playing much the way that they went after Jared Goff
in that game. So that was the good news. The
rest of it, you know, the story stayed up. Yeah,
well that what happened.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But going into the game, I think the the the
the story of most people were interested in the A
topic would have been how will how will a Brosemur
do right?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And you know I had I had said that, I.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Just got feeling. I don't know, I don't want him in practice.
I just said, I get the feeling.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I think he's just gonna play well.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I didn't expect him to be, you know, brilliant and
like you know, throw complete seventy five percent of his
passes and three touchdowns three hundred yards.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I thought he.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Played well in the action early on when they gave
him the screen passed the short passes wasn't so bad.
A couple of drops hurt him, but then the underhanded
throwers that are taking the sack. He just panicked and
he you know, you understand you don't want to take
a sack there because it's fourth down, but you have
to take a sack there because that completely changed the
complexion of the game. It goes from three to nothing.
(07:19):
Like you say, you could have tied the game. But
even if you don't get it, I know what koc
is thinking.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
We're ninety five yards were to them at the five
yard line.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
He throws the pick six and that pretty much just
basically all the You could just feel the momentum go over.
Seattle side of the football wasn't over at that point,
but it was not. It We knew point to be
at a premium for the Purple and it seemed like
even that was going to be enough.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
It wasn't.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
That wasn't just with Max Brolsburg. We've seen it pretty
much all all season long, with the exception of maybe
the Lions game. A couple others as well, where the
Bengals game the Bengals, well, that was they had a
whole bunch of turnovers in that one. But you know,
going back to the Atlanta game, here when the Vikings
get behind and trying to rally.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
They're so challenged offensively.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
You watch some of these other teams and they make
every fifteen to twenty yard completion look like well, like
it's commonplace. And the Vikings are just capable of doing.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
That right now.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
And that's what we have to see a semblance of
these last number of games that they have left, because
that's the only way that they're going to have some
momentum built going into next year with McCarthy back in there.
And that's the problem. Don't even after giving up the touchdown,
they're down ten nothing. Yep, a lot of teams are
going big deal, we'll come back from that. It's not
an insurmountable lead. We're down by ten points, but for
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the Vikings it may as well been fifteen to nothing
because they just could not move the ball. We know
the paltry statistics that they had. And then Brosber looked
Rattle Seattle was able to kind of dial in defensively,
Darrin Saw.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Is not playing the center end leaving the game.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
But it's been like that for more than that game,
and that's the problem, you know, moving forward, and the
frustrations that you know, the Jefferson added and they had
a couple drops too. Let's let's not forget that they
did drop the ball a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It wasn't just all Addison and Jefferson both dropped catchable balls.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
They did.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Would they did.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
I'm not saying I would have turned the game around,
but you know, let's they dropped the ball a couple
of times.
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wanted to ask you Minnesota Golden Gophers close out the
regular season against hated in our rival Wisconsin at the Bank,
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and they get the Acts back in a Snowbowl game
seventeen to seven. You know, a wins win. I know that,
you know, the defense played better and they had some
timely plays, but that kind of a field kind of
led you to it going to be a low scoring game,
I think. Anyways, I do know one thing, however it happened.
It was a vast improvement for a defense who had
given up fifteen hundred yards over the past five games.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah, I kind of a methodical win. And look, anytime
you beat the Badgers and you keep the Acts, it's
a good day of the crowd. The fans had a
great time in the snow. I mean, it was one
of those days that you know, we don't get here
all that often because well, US Bank is this just
in is indoors, and so those those those days many
many years ago, if you're old enough to remember Mett
(12:07):
Stadium and Memorial Stadium, uh.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
It was it was. You know, they'd have a few
of those games.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Of course, the college season ends pretty much before the
real snow begins.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
So yeah, I mean the.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Gopher Darius Taylor had a nice run and they're able
to finish off an unbeaten season at home. Uh So
that's a feather in their cap. Now they have to
wait for their ball opponent and the date they're going
to play in. At least they won't be going to
Detroit the way it sounds, So I'm saying that's a plus.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
But the bigger issue what he got against Detroit?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Nothing really, Detroit's are actually a great city right now.
They've made some they've made some amazing improvements. But the
bigger issue, the bigger story is tomorrow's signing day. And
with all you know, and I heard PJ the other
day talking about, imagine sitting down with your players now
going Okay, what's it going to take to keep you?
We got you here, you played here. What's the price Now?
(13:01):
We have to increase the ante and the nail money
to keep their quarterback, to keep their top receivers or alignment,
whatever the case may be. And every college coach in
the country has.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
To deal with this right now.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Uh And so I think the signing day is more
of a you know, official you don't have to worry
about guys. You know, we nieking on their verbal commitments.
So you know, the Golphers on paper supposedly had their
best recruiting class.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
We've heard this before in quite a few years.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
It doesn't suggest to say that that's going to mean
next year they're going to move up to the upper echelon.
When you look at Indiana playing Ohio State this week
for the Big Den Championship, and obviously both those teams
are going on in the College Football playoffs. That's a
whole nother level of college football that the Gophers aren't
in right now or even come close to. With Oregon
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and and you know, even you know, Michigan's better ten
States had a down year, but those two teams in particular,
But you got to keep moving the needle trying to
you know, Pj's nine years now, and you'd like to
see them. You know, they had such an abysmal year
on the road, not even really sixing out home five
and oh on the road or only five, yeah, not
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really even being competitive in many of those games on
the road either. Obviously they played the level of competition
was a lot tougher on the road than at home,
So you know, it's it's just kind of I want
to say, it's a kind of a typical Minnesota Gopher
football year. I'm not taking anything away from the good
times that the fans had, the players enjoyed, getting the
acts back, so I'm not.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Going to throw cold water on that. Anytime.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
To beat Wisconsin, it's a good day for the Gophers
in any sport, particular football. So that's it, you know,
except for what it is, and you move on and
hope for better days.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
It is kind of it is interesting that for the
longest time, our conversations around the Gophers were you just
want to be the point where we're at, like the
Wisconsin and Iowa level, right, and we'd be happy with that.
And four the last five years they've taken down Wisconsin.
They made them two years in a row. Now Iowa
is another story that they haven't been able topple them.
But we've gotten there at Wiscon and I think Wisconsin
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maybe come back to us more than we've gone to them.
I agree, but still like, well, some don't feel as
fulfilling as maybe we once thought.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
No, And and the Iowa loss this year when they
just got blasted on national television. To me, it was
one that really has to stick in their crow because
I thought the Golphers would be competitive in that game
and it was, you know, a national TV nightmare for them.
They just were never in it. I don't I can't remember.
I'm talking about kind of like what a Viking like
offensive performance against Seattle and that we've seen the last
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couple of weeks against Green Bay. It was that way
for the Golphers against Iowa. I don't remember a positive
play that you could take away from that game. And
that that's a whole lot different than you know, losing
a close one at the end or being competitive like
I'm sure CBS thought they would be. Uh And that
that that hurt because you know, I was got a
good team.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I went call it.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
You know, Kirk Ferris has been there forever longest ten
years coach I think at college football. But Minnesota wasn't
even competitive and that that's that's not good at all
as we know.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yesterday we talked about some of the quotes from PJ
after the game. He said, give me one second because
this is this is the one he says. He said,
this is a really good football team. That's earned the
right to play in a really good bowl game, whatever
that looks like. And you know I made the comment
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yesterday I don't know if really good with the way
the team when you look at the wins and the
losses and everything, if you could call them a really
good team. I got an email from Craig at one
fifty nine yesterday afternoon says, common, good afternoon. I agree
with you. The Gophers are not a good football team.
I believe this is what you said. Then let the
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numbers bear it out, and listen to these numbers. In
seven wins this season, the opposing teams the Gophers played
at a combined record of twenty eight and fifty six
twenty eight in six In those seven wins, only one
team had a winning record, and that was a bad
Nebraska team. The other six teams weren't even close to
five hundred. In five losses, the opposing teams the Gophers
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played at a combined forty four and sixteen record. In
those five losses, they were outscored one ninety to sixty
eight average score thirty eight fourteen. In games versus Ohio State, Iowa,
Oregon thirty one and five combined record, they were outscored
one twenty five to nineteen, which is a forty two
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to six average score. Now, he goes on to say
the team has not improved at all Underflec. They beat teams,
they should, they lose to teams they should, they get
invited to a second or third tier bowl game and
people get excited. Are the standards that low? I think
the nil money the program is what it is. They
will not be able to compete with the traditional powerhouses.
It just doesn't compute. Why do people think the program
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has turned around? And you can say it's better now
Erflec than it was in the past, or however you
want to, how do you want to I want to
call it. But those numbers are numbers. They are glaring.
They are getting crushed by really good teams and beating
really bad teams. And that doesn't I'm sorry, it doesn't do.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
A lot for me.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Well, and it's probably not going to change a whole
heck of a lot. I mean until they can become
the next tier when other teams are striving to become
the next Indiana Hoosier football team, which has been lousy
in the sport for the most part for decades and
managed to turn it around in a couple of years
with a combination of a lot of things, probably a
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lot of money as well. Until that happens, I mean,
you just cannot compete against those teams. And I don't
I don't know if people are getting all excited. I mean,
I would say, a really good ball game, it's better
than playing the I don't know if it's the Motor
City ball or the car Minor Key ball.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Whatever.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
They're going to play in a decent game against a
decent team, and they'll be in there. They're going to
play in their weight class.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Probably.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
I think Gophers have had success PJ has in those
ball games.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I wouldn't say.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
I don't know what the email said that people are
going crazy over this or think that they've made big
strides this year. You know, they those stats don't lie.
They aren't ready to compete on the road, in particular
against the better teams. They had some success a year ago,
did they not? And they went out in the West
Coast and with this Southern Cali u clay, but you
know they haven't. They haven't been able to compete and
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they're not going to compete against Nike and Oregon and
they're not going to compete against Ohio State. They're not
going to compete against right now. And I assume maybe
Indiana will be on their schedule next year. Should we
expect them to, Yeah, it would be nice, but right
now in particular, it was like for years and years
and years, the golfers just couldn't couldn't recruit against those teams.
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Now it's a matter of how deep are your pockets
to try to get those now recruiting annual money and
transfer portal and getting players in that you know, one
or two guys that potentially could turn your defense around,
and it's just so hard to kind of wrap your
mind around what goes on behind the scenes. You know,
just because we have a bunch of fortune five hundred
companies in town. The people who potentially could be contributing
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to the golfer program, they may have gone to college
at Ohio State or Michigan, and they're gonna if they
have money, the excessive money could point, they're gonna put
it towards the team. They're not gonna put it towards
the golfers. They don't have any allegiance to the Gold
U of it, to the good old U of M
so I hate them. I'm not just saying it's all money, uh,
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but it's becoming more and more every day. It's just
about the money.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
It's hard.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I mean, look what happened with Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
What what a what a joke this was this weekend.
I've never I mean, we've seen situations like that before.
He's telling his coaching staff he wanted to coach the
ball game. Are you out of your mind? Hit the road,
jack and don't come back. And you're telling your coaching
staff you better get out of the bus to the LSU.
(20:54):
I'm going as if that was going to be a
surprise that.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
He was gonna go to LS.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I think I'm in the vast minority because Tendabee agrees
with you, you want to coach the last game? Sorry,
you're out. If I'm the the athletic director, I'm saying, yeah,
for what you've built her, let's let's try.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
To finish this off.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Tenneby his point, is well taken that maybe the new
coach goes, oh, he didn't believe in you, and use
that as a as a rallying cry to let him coach.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Shut out.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I know I'm in the vast minority, but I would
have let him coach out because he is, by all
accounts a hell of a coach, and if he's got
that team to eleven and one, I think I probably
would have let him coach.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
But he's a hell of a coach and he's a jackass.
Well you can say that too. I'm a hell of
a talk So no, I'm I'm not. I'm not a jackass,
and I'm not.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
A very good talk I love Lane's father more than anything.
Mamani was one of the greatest dunges and and human
beings I've ever been around.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I don't know what happened to his kid. Well, let's
take a break, come back. One more segment to go.
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what's the name of the place again? B fifty two
Burgers in brew Lakeville? And uh, what day? What time
will that be? I like to be prepared.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Ow is that December fourth, seven nine pm?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Very good? That's Brett Lakemore back at our.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Studios at the sixteen hundred Udicabine of South This is
our last segment of the day of the year from
Shields and Eton Prairie. It's for toys for tots, brought
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They still got between now and the end of Bumper
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unwrapped toy for a girl and boy. And we would
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certainly appreciate that. I'm common, he's tend to be legendary.
Mark Rosen here, And how about your Wolves club winning
some games?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
They're not taking time off.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
They don't fall behind and get a big lead and
blow it. Is that two games they once as were
last Awker three two or three two.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
They beat Boston and then they came back and beat
San Antonio minus Wemby on They rallied in that game,
and I think played their best quarter of basketball all.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Season with a small ball. The small ball in the
fourth quarter.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
They were moving the ball crisply, and they played well
on defense. They were the transition game was looking good,
and you know, it was all kind of falling into place.
So they had nice back to back wins. Now they're
playing watch tonight. They're playing one of the worst teams
in basketball, I think the three win Pelicans team. I
went there in front of probably the beer salesman and
(24:15):
a couple of concessionaires. Uh in New Orleans where that
that team is. I remember they were gonna move Minnesota
was gonna move to New Orleans. I remember when all
that stuff went down, Bob aram and top rank yep correct.
I still have a T shirt. Some of me made
commemorative T shirts. I think they're collector's items now.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I still have mine where they had a picture that
they super imposed, you know, they made they made it
for the front of the T shirt with the front
page of the Times picky you, and that said we
got them because they thought they had everybody did. It
looked like they had bought that top rank had the wolves.
And then I don't remember what happened if the NBA
they stepped in. They stepped in, right, Yeah, what happened then?
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Of course Glenn Taylor also stepped in. But I w
cl sent me down in New Orleans to cover that
story down there. The only the two one I remember
that the T shirt story, you remember, and then the
Tom Clancy when he held up the paper I got.
I got up to the new owner of the Minnesota Vikings,
and I always remember saying to myself, how much fun
would that have been a Tom Clancy would have owned
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the Vikings. I mean, he's he He came into our
studios and of course even at that at that point,
there was no smoking anywhere in the in the in
the building or anywhere, and he just lit up a cigarette.
Yeah it's Tom Clancy, and I thinking, oh my god.
And then they found out apparently there was a divorce
settlement along the way that was costing a few more
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dollars than he could afford to buy the Minnesota Vikings.
But for a brief moment, I thought, man, this is
gonna be a riot time. There were several suitors for
the Vikings. We had a couple of others. I can't
remember their names now, but weren't there, Yeah, there were?
Where was uh.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Who was the other guy? Famous guy?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Oh? Well, yeah, I don't remember now, there were there was.
I'll look while you talk. What do you think of
the Wolves? I mean, well, they played the they went
small ball, I guess because women Yabo wasn't in, so Gobert,
four time.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Defensive Player of the Year wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Well, I mean they also made adjustment. That's so much
because Webby wasn't there. But they also had to make
an adjustment because san Antori was beating him at their
own game, right, and they had to make adjustments. And
credit Chris Finch with identifying that. And uh, you know
you're getting some more contributions on Terrence Shannon.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
You know he was hurt for quite a while.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
You know they also then that's gonna put up its
thirty plus every game now, I mean he's almost like
running the point. But he was off the floor for
a little bit in that fourth quarter, which is unusual,
not at the beginning of it and not at the
end of it, but he came back in. But yeah,
I mean it's I think we're so used to the
Wolves as kind of putting the pedal down late in
the year. You know, they always have a couple of losses,
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like potentially they could have to night against New Orleans
against against maddening kind of losses. They've already had a
couple of those when they've blown leads late on the
road before this. But I'd like to see him string
together some you know, some real quality wins or even
against the also Rams. You just got to keep going
to try to get in that upper echelon because you know,
right now, of course it's okay seeing the rest. You know,
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the Lakers lost last night. Lebron I guess had a
terrible game. But you know, Denver looking good, Houston looking good,
you know, Phoenix are.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Some very very good teams.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
None of that's going to change this year barring any
catastrophic injuries. And San Antonio when Wenby gets back, will
also be a big threat. So the Wolves have to
kind of keep up whether or not they'll end up
making a move before the trading deadline remains to be seen.
I don't see them making a major move, but you
know they I wouldn't put anything past Tim Connolly.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
But yeah, that was.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
That was again the most impressive eight nine minutes of
basketball that I've seen him play this year at home
the other night AI Overview.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Several people in groups are attempted to buy the Minnesota
Bikings include author Tom Clancy. We have failed mid ninety eight,
businessman Reggie Fowler oh god, yes, who was attempting in
two thousand and five, was ultimately unsuccessful as he blocked
sufficient capital.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Other individuals involved in bids included Roger Headrick, Carl poll At,
Ed Snyder, and Red Macombs, who ultimately sold the team
to the current owners, the Will family.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
So Reggie Follower was the name. Reggie Follower was the guy.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Yeah, there there were a bunch of you know, the
gang of whatever that tried to get in on that.
But yeah, that was Red was. Red was a character,
but he didn't want to spend any money.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I think you're going to be going down to Saint
Paul a little more than you thought you were going to.
This this wild club is they're the best team in
hockey right now, and you can't argue.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Eleven one and one of the I don't know if
I call him the best team in hockey.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
It's been on.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I mean, Colorado's lost to once in regulation seasons.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Right, Let's say we we played the Lions how many
times this year?
Speaker 4 (28:41):
One time?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
One time? And what was the result of that game?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
We beat him in a shootout.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Oh so that's tie game basically, and winning in a
shootout the negativity from the left and the right.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
I was just identifying the fact, yeah, little Negatron by
saying a team that is historically good that there hasn't
been a team in forty years to get off the
star collar at Avalanche, and by saying that they're better
currently in the Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
While I'm negative, Yeah, that's done.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I think, what do you guys think?
Speaker 5 (29:10):
They got wild sweatress and they should be happy. Uh,
and then they get hopefully gonna get even a little healthier.
But now tonight they're playing conn or McDavid is over raided,
so that's on tonight. Uh yeah, that'll be fun to
watch me they are. I mean, I was driving home
from our little Thanksgiving trip on Friday afternoon, had the
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game off for a little bit, but you.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Were so far in the world. Did I hear that
you actually chopped the head off the turkey and then
I did and plucked from it.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Yeah, we were so far down southwestern Minnesota and Westbrook.
Had a great time U Carnes dad's ninetieth birthday party,
but we ninety We headed back right afterwards because we
were going to spend the night at the weather being
what it was, made the right decision to get out
of Dodge before the snow really hit.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
But yeah, well you weren't in Dodge.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
You were in Beard, Westbrook, Westbrook, which Sky liked west
west of Dodge. Yeah, just assault of the earth. People
just had a great time. Oh man, it was so
much fun. You can have all those fancy they'll get
together as you go to I'd take that ten out
of ten times. Just a lot of a lot of fun,
a lot of great people down there.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
So you know, we always do this all the time.
Ten of people do it five three, four.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Every once in a while, say which Minnesota major men's
four sports team has the best chance as we speak,
to win a league championship. You'd have to say the
Minnesota wail because they ain't gonna be the Vikings and
the Twins.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I guess the Wolves, you know, because they've been the Wolves,
you would, I'd go wild. It's just wrong with the
Jolly Giants. That's not native the Wild. That's positively towards
the Wolves.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
The Wolves have been in the Western Conference finals the
last two years. They've got arguably a top five player
in the league.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Episoda the Wild. Yeah, yeah, what do you think of that?
They got? They got two, not one. They got they
got maybe.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
The best goal in the history of the league. Well
that's the one thing you would to say right now.
They have the best goalie in the end.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
That's all it.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Takes, you know, get get hot next spring.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
It's fun though, I mean, good for them. And you
got the junior tournament coming here at the end of
the month. Uh, and that that's gonna be a lot
of fun. Uh, you know, to see some of the
best young players in the world here except for the
ones in Russia.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
But yeah, it's a good time. It's a it's a
great time. And in the Wild deserve all the credit.
They're packing the place and they got a little road
trip right now. But they're fun to watch and they
you get that kind of goaltending. You got to give
yourself a chance. You look at the standing if we
talk about it all the time because of the points system,
you know, three points separate six seven teams, and that's
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probably not going to change most of the year. You
just got to be in the mix player, you know,
hopefully your best hockey next spring, because that's really what
people are going to judge ultimately. Of course, judge this
team by and the and the Timberwolves by now what
they're doing in December, but what they're doing in April
and may hopefully. Gopher men's basketball, yeah, I lost another
player I heard.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah, and you know again, you know, they've had some
good moments, but they've had more mediocre moments in good moments.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
It's going to be a while.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
You always hope right away that, you know, because it
is basketball, you know, five six players.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Bringing a couple of guys in maybe it changes it
up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
But I think his first year, so I'm not you know,
I'm not calling for med betch head. Yeah, not yet
next week, but it might be a little longer. I
think we all hoped you know, he kind of want to.
You know, we're all impatient, but and it still could
be better.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
But it's like it seems like they're again, whether you're
talking to Minnesota football or Minnesota basketball, you're you're going
in the blue bloods in Big Ten basketball, you pretty
much is always you know, it's kind of the same.
It's Michigan State, it's Purdue Michigan at times, and they're
throwing a few other teams that they get get in
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the mix. But Minnesota doesn't get in that conversation. And again,
I don't know what the nil money, but you're right,
sometimes it could take one player that eternal whole program
around in basketball, and you know, the Nico's trying to
do his best to make sure that. And we have
some damn good players in the high school league high
school of Minnesota. We have had, as we know, most
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of the unfortunately you haven't stayed here. Uh and they
go elsewhere. And that's what that's the key to future
success that keep puts many of those guys as possible,
least a couple of them staying in Minnesota. They convince
them that you know, the money's right. I hate to
say it, but that's the truth. The money's right, and
the program is headed in the right direction Undernico Medvet.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Gophers women's team destroyed Samford, not Stanford.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Samford, No, Samford, right, that's what I said. Yeah, Samford
and Son right.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Destroyed them and they're six and two now they're They're
an interesting club. I I yeah, I'll watch it. I'm sorry,
I know this is wrong with me. I can't pronounce
the name of the the coach, the coach plus squitz
that's close enough.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Can anybody help me?
Speaker 4 (33:49):
I think where's guards are the ending? I think it's correct.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Let's go with Don, Yeah, Don Mara Brown. I kind
of like what coach Don is doing with this club,
I really do.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I think, you know, and obviously you can get a
much more forthright and educated opinion from uh from JG
because he's he's the play by play guys, right by playboys.
But yeah, they they this seems like one of those
you always wanted to we hire the right person? Do
we hire the right person? It seems so far, so good.
I mean, I you know, they not want to Natty
or anything, but I.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Like, no, but you got to go back to the
you know, it's just been a long haul between uh,
you know, Jenelle Macarvell, Lindsay Whaler and the rest of
you know that that team, that Final four team and
where we are today. But yeah, that's what you hope
that you know, they're heading in that right direction. And
again it's all about the recruiting and and uh, you
know like them, like the boys, you know players, there's
some some really good uh high school girls players in
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this state. And that's the key thing for for Dawn
as well, to try to They say he's going to
Kentucky though I know unfortunately who Greenway, Chack Greenway's kid. Yeah,
Greenway's gone Entucky? What a trader? How comes you to
go to Iowa? That's I mean, that's uh, I wonder how.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Much following Kaitlin Clark's footsteps.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
Yeah, I mean, man, that's that's plus her dad's footsteps.
But she's she's she's the best far and away, she's
the best player in the state.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
By the way. When you see yellow, yeah, Kaitlyn Clark,
I see that. I will loose over there and I
think a Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, I always love that exactly. Twins made the trade.
Yet you know, I don't think that. My goodness, Vikings
made him move. What they do?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Uh, they just waved a quarterback Desmond Ritter, which oh
JAJ McCarthy is healthy and good to go. Yeah, that's
that's what that means.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Yeah, they got to make sure JJ McCarthy is good
to go for the rest of the season. That's their
chance of moving the needle a little bit and getting
the kid as many reps as possible going in the
off season when they'll sign another quarterback to back them up.
What's his name, Davis smiles, whatever, you know, we'll go
after somebody to have to back him up next year.
How much patience are you supposed to have, though? What
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do you think another game rest of this year, all
of next year, part of next year. Well, I know
a lot of it depends upon the progress. But what
if it's I mean, if it's if he plays like
this the rest of the season, I don't even know
how you can go in the next year playing well.
I think that would be a concern if he plays
like this the rest of the season. Given the fact
that well starting this week, I mean, Washington was in
the NFC Championship game a year ago. Look where they
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are now again? That they well, they almost beat Denver.
They're playing hard.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I think all these teams except maybe the you know
the right, the very you know what, who's one and
thirteen into the even the Giants are in football games.
Most of them they weren't yesterday.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
But so well, I mean to answer your question now,
I mean, it's it's the rest of this year. He's
got to stay healthy number one, and he's trying to
get more productive the rest of this year and next
year he's going to be. They staked their claim to
this guy being, you know, the future, But you have
to have someone, I'm saying, an upgrade from Carson Wentz,
like to convince that to come in and be that
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be in that role, not so much that as adeptician
or a backup, as a backup, as a backup.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
I mean, I think you're ready to go with J. J.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
McCarthy game one next year.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Absolutely yeah, I think absolutely well. I think.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
I mean I was saying this hundred percent. I mean,
I think you have to Aaron.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
What if Aaron Rodgers is available? Aaron Rodgers, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Did he just sign a one year deal with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (37:15):
How about not exactly leading the Steelers to the problem.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
How about if Carson Wentz learns to throw with his
left arm, if you sign him because his right seems
to be shure.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Yeah, yeah, I I I don't listen. Uh JJ has
got a lot of it was left. But I look
at it this way. We remember the end of last year,
the Viking's been fourteen and three. Darnold was awful against
Detroit and that wasn't that wasn't defensive line that game.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
He was terrible.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Then he got beat up by the Rams in the
playoff game, and you let we're all left going, what
was that season about? I mean that was that was
discouraging as could be the end the season.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Then we were one game away from the number one
seed home field of playoffs.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
And he picked that game to have the worst game
of the year and it wasn't close. So that's that
is that the real? Will the real Sam Donald stand
up and we start with the Vikings to do him
on Sunday? You know, I'm not throwing cold water in
Donald's fat k. He's had a lot of success.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
A lot of quarterbacks have had bad games. Of course
they have enough. This becomes a habit.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
This season, they're gonna make the playoffs if he and
his first playoff game is terrible and and reverts to
you know, the Lions game last year, well then all
of a sudden, you can you then talked to me
about man, maybe Donald just doesn't have that actor to win.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
When you know in the big moments in postseason, Well,
I I'm not ready.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Koc has staked his claim to this kid right now,
and I think they got to write it out and
I don't know how many games he put a number
on it next year to see what he can do,
because we sayd time and time again. What really killed
JJ McCarthy was last year not being able to practice
at all. He missed all last year, not from a
game standpoint, he wasn't even allowed to practice. So he
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came in and that's where I think the management and
the head coach misjudged what they had and JJ McCarthy
just started him in Game one. He just clearly wasn't ready,
and you know he had that fourth quarter rally against
the Bears, but missing all of last year, I think
they missed they miscalculated his readiness for the National Football
League because he missed all of last year, not from
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a playing standpoint, but from a practicing standpoint, and you
just can't duplicate those reps going out there for the
first game.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
So yesterday the montage was sad Eyes, Yes, and that's
what we play at the end of every Minnesota season
when the season's over, last game has gone by, right,
So I asked if you know Tennebe had ever played
sad Eyes before season was completely over, and then I
listed all the teams. You know, we've played him for
the Golfers, for the Twins, the Wolves, the Wild, the Frost.
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Then an email that corrected me. He says, we've never
played sad Eyes for the Frost, really, because the Frost
have never They've won the both world championship. So I
have to apologize to the Frost, to Tennabee and all
listeners there. Of course, we haven't played sad Eyes for
the Frost because there's been.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
No reason to it. All they do is win World
champions right right.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
I thought I saw a note from their commissioner recently
because they just expanded to two teams right Seattle Vancouver,
that they want to get to twelve teams. It sounds
like they want to do like quickly, So get to
know your Frost and you might be losing half those
players they already have years. Well yeah, yeah, they lost
like yeah, a bunch of them.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
That's too bad.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
We want to keep them together, all those defenders. Yeah,
that's money talks. You want to keep expanding, but it's
it's good for the success of the league.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
How many points do you think you didn't the Vikings
will score twenty points against the Commanders on Sunday?
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Yes, Sale, Sale, I'm going to sail that that was
the best. Did you get the joke.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
About the singer sad because they said the question was, well,
the Vikings.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Scored twenty or more? Points?
Speaker 5 (40:47):
He said, sale, Yes, I was going forward Ron and
uh and they said they said no, yeah, and of
course certain points.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Chief were you think?
Speaker 5 (40:58):
They also asked Justin Effison was Gonnacore a touchdown? I've
been saying that it's kind of yes every single week
until he does.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Oh that was we met.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
I have enough time to dive too deep into this.
I've perceived a couple of emails from people that thing. Well,
just the Justin Jefferson reaction, sitting away from the team
with a towel.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
I'm not upset about that quite frankly.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I mean, the guy's really been good about it, and
it just kind of after a while, it kind of
just got how many times it wasn't like he was
screaming at players and throwing helmets. He just wanted to
sit by himself and kind of contemplate you. I used
to go to the Viking locker room and Randy Moss.
We'd be waiting for Randy Moss to get to his
locker and he'd get there and he'd go get out
of my locker. Yeah, afro, and nobody would say a
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thing about it.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
You want them to be mad, absolutely, You don't want
them to be happy about the idea.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
That he wants out or something. Mollie, he's going to
be here next year, don't worry, he's wait. Under contrast,
thanks for.
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Why not, let's hear it for the legendary one Mark Rosen.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Everybody. That's some nice folks from Saint Louis Park just
a few minutes ago, my hometown.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Very good?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Are you from there?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Did he hear that?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
There's a lot of legendary from too many to mention
to them all, Tom Friedman, Coen Brothers.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Coen Brothers, who else?
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Well, I mean you, I mean there's Jeff Diamond, Yes,
Jeff Diamond, Jeff Passel, oh Ding, goodness, A list of
legendary people. Well, there was something in the water though.
Right now, I'm from Detroit. I got I got a
long list.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Oh, I know you do.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
How about you sent me? Oh, you said to me,
how about has you ever heard the story?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Rosen sends me.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Texas, says lem Barney, dad of eighty Now right, Lembarney,
legendary defensive back for the Detroit Lions, one of my
I have three sporting heroes, Lembarney, al Kline of Scotti,
LaDue right, and so lem Barney dos. I'm like, oh,
and I'm look up the stories and I search it
and I see him. They're reporting on it. About three
four hours later, the story breaks. Lem Barney's not dead
(03:08):
rumors of his advice.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Sadly there were.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Carl Eller had to respond and I hadn't even seen
it that one Carl. Carl said, I'm alive, and well,
you know the sickness that people have to post things
like that about individuals. And this was not some kind
of like crackpot thing, I don't. You know, usually you
try to get verified so they don't fall for that.
But it was Barney and Carl Eller, and there was
one other, Steve Tasker I think was the other one.
(03:34):
So I mean, oh, that's hilarious stuff. And so yeah,
when I saw that, you know, Lem Barney's of that
age for sure, it was believable. Yeah, and I was
I thought, oh that's sad. And then you know, then
Pro Football Talking had reposted it, yep, that's Florio's site,
and thinking, oh man, this is right on. And then
literally like half hour or later, like you said, thankfully,
(03:55):
Len Barney's alive, and well, so you got to be careful,
to know the lesson for everybody to be care for
what you read on the nonsense that we see on
social media.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
It's been reported that my career has died, and that's true.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Oh we could verify that we could verify twenty years
ago for a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Twenty where'd you get the last ten? Cryed out loud.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I haven't seen this since the long Thanksgiving weekend.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Well, and here's what I wanted to ask you.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I just happened to get a gander at Vikings game day.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Oh that you're part of. Yeah, and on sink or sale?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Right when they said twenty points and you said sale,
did you think that was for one game or two games?
Speaker 5 (04:36):
I wasn't or three I wasn't sure because they ended
up getting it was a multiple choice question. Yes, I
think I think it was that that was the first one.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
That was the first one, and you thought they'd get
twenty points there, would you know? I mean that was
that was a reach.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yeah, Seattle barely got you know, twenty points. I mean
it was you know that day. We we can talk
about it all. Well, but I go ahead.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Well, I was gonna say it's a tail of two units.
The offense did nothing well, Brosemer struggled mightily. Defense played
really well, they really did. I mean they gave ended
up giving up nineteen Well if you take you know,
in nineteen points, because you take away.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
The extra foy EVENO that doesn't even count. I think
the field goals, the frontal position.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, yeah, so they they played as well as you
could against an offense coming into that game, which was
probably as good as any of the National Football League.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
I think Brian Flores gave the blueprint again to future opponents,
potentially at playoff opponents, how to get the Sam Darnold.
It was almost reminiscent of the Rams playoff game. He was,
he was rattled. I mean, your guest, Blake Cashman and
a number of others, Grenard, they were all. They were
all after they were Afterrom the entire the entire afternoon.
(05:44):
He was, he was, And that's why I wanted them
to kick the field goal when it was fourth and one.
They just let your defense on the field because they're
going to produce more points, I think. But yeah, it
reminded me of the Rams game, and it's kind of
a warning shot for for you know all. You know, listen,
I love Sam Darnold. He did a lot of great
things here last year. But I think what we saw
(06:06):
in that game was exactly what he saw in the
Rams playoff game. And the offensive line just got bowled
over and Seattle probably has a better offensive line than
what the Vikings presented last year in the playoff time.
But it was another reminder that's also the quality of
your opposition that you play, and the Vikings defense was
dialed in and that's why I wanted him to keep
(06:27):
playing much the way that they went after Jared Goff
in that game. So that was the good news. The
rest of it, you know, the story stayed up. Yeah,
well that what happened.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But going into the game, I think the the the
the story of most people were interested in the A
topic would have been how will how will a Brosemur
do right?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And you know I had I had said that, I.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Just got feeling. I don't know, I don't want him in practice.
I just said, I get the feeling.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I think he's just gonna play well.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I didn't expect him to be, you know, brilliant and
like you know, throw complete seventy five percent of his
passes and three touchdowns three hundred yards.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I thought he.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Played well in the action early on when they gave
him the screen passed the short passes wasn't so bad.
A couple of drops hurt him, but then the underhanded
throwers that are taking the sack. He just panicked and
he you know, you understand you don't want to take
a sack there because it's fourth down, but you have
to take a sack there because that completely changed the
complexion of the game. It goes from three to nothing.
(07:19):
Like you say, you could have tied the game. But
even if you don't get it, I know what koc
is thinking.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
We're ninety five yards were to them at the five
yard line.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
He throws the pick six and that pretty much just
basically all the You could just feel the momentum go over.
Seattle side of the football wasn't over at that point,
but it was not. It We knew point to be
at a premium for the Purple and it seemed like
even that was going to be enough.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
It wasn't.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
That wasn't just with Max Brolsburg. We've seen it pretty
much all all season long, with the exception of maybe
the Lions game. A couple others as well, where the
Bengals game the Bengals, well, that was they had a
whole bunch of turnovers in that one. But you know,
going back to the Atlanta game, here when the Vikings
get behind and trying to rally.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
They're so challenged offensively.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
You watch some of these other teams and they make
every fifteen to twenty yard completion look like well, like
it's commonplace. And the Vikings are just capable of doing.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
That right now.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
And that's what we have to see a semblance of
these last number of games that they have left, because
that's the only way that they're going to have some
momentum built going into next year with McCarthy back in there.
And that's the problem. Don't even after giving up the touchdown,
they're down ten nothing. Yep, a lot of teams are
going big deal, we'll come back from that. It's not
an insurmountable lead. We're down by ten points, but for
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the Vikings it may as well been fifteen to nothing
because they just could not move the ball. We know
the paltry statistics that they had. And then Brosber looked
Rattle Seattle was able to kind of dial in defensively,
Darrin Saw.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Is not playing the center end leaving the game.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
But it's been like that for more than that game,
and that's the problem, you know, moving forward, and the
frustrations that you know, the Jefferson added and they had
a couple drops too. Let's let's not forget that they
did drop the ball a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It wasn't just all Addison and Jefferson both dropped catchable balls.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
They did.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Would they did.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
I'm not saying I would have turned the game around,
but you know, let's they dropped the ball a couple
of times.
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wanted to ask you Minnesota Golden Gophers close out the
regular season against hated in our rival Wisconsin at the Bank,
(11:23):
and they get the Acts back in a Snowbowl game
seventeen to seven. You know, a wins win. I know that,
you know, the defense played better and they had some
timely plays, but that kind of a field kind of
led you to it going to be a low scoring game,
I think. Anyways, I do know one thing, however it happened.
It was a vast improvement for a defense who had
given up fifteen hundred yards over the past five games.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah, I kind of a methodical win. And look, anytime
you beat the Badgers and you keep the Acts, it's
a good day of the crowd. The fans had a
great time in the snow. I mean, it was one
of those days that you know, we don't get here
all that often because well, US Bank is this just
in is indoors, and so those those those days many
many years ago, if you're old enough to remember Mett
(12:07):
Stadium and Memorial Stadium, uh.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
It was it was. You know, they'd have a few
of those games.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Of course, the college season ends pretty much before the
real snow begins.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
So yeah, I mean the.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Gopher Darius Taylor had a nice run and they're able
to finish off an unbeaten season at home. Uh So
that's a feather in their cap. Now they have to
wait for their ball opponent and the date they're going
to play in. At least they won't be going to
Detroit the way it sounds, So I'm saying that's a plus.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
But the bigger issue what he got against Detroit?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Nothing really, Detroit's are actually a great city right now.
They've made some they've made some amazing improvements. But the
bigger issue, the bigger story is tomorrow's signing day. And
with all you know, and I heard PJ the other
day talking about, imagine sitting down with your players now
going Okay, what's it going to take to keep you?
We got you here, you played here. What's the price Now?
(13:01):
We have to increase the ante and the nail money
to keep their quarterback, to keep their top receivers or alignment,
whatever the case may be. And every college coach in
the country has.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
To deal with this right now.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Uh And so I think the signing day is more
of a you know, official you don't have to worry
about guys. You know, we nieking on their verbal commitments.
So you know, the Golphers on paper supposedly had their
best recruiting class.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
We've heard this before in quite a few years.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
It doesn't suggest to say that that's going to mean
next year they're going to move up to the upper echelon.
When you look at Indiana playing Ohio State this week
for the Big Den Championship, and obviously both those teams
are going on in the College Football playoffs. That's a
whole nother level of college football that the Gophers aren't
in right now or even come close to. With Oregon
(13:52):
and and you know, even you know, Michigan's better ten
States had a down year, but those two teams in particular,
But you got to keep moving the needle trying to
you know, Pj's nine years now, and you'd like to
see them. You know, they had such an abysmal year
on the road, not even really sixing out home five
and oh on the road or only five, yeah, not
(14:13):
really even being competitive in many of those games on
the road either. Obviously they played the level of competition
was a lot tougher on the road than at home,
So you know, it's it's just kind of I want
to say, it's a kind of a typical Minnesota Gopher
football year. I'm not taking anything away from the good
times that the fans had, the players enjoyed, getting the
acts back, so I'm not.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Going to throw cold water on that. Anytime.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
To beat Wisconsin, it's a good day for the Gophers
in any sport, particular football. So that's it, you know,
except for what it is, and you move on and
hope for better days.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
It is kind of it is interesting that for the
longest time, our conversations around the Gophers were you just
want to be the point where we're at, like the
Wisconsin and Iowa level, right, and we'd be happy with that.
And four the last five years they've taken down Wisconsin.
They made them two years in a row. Now Iowa
is another story that they haven't been able topple them.
But we've gotten there at Wiscon and I think Wisconsin
(15:08):
maybe come back to us more than we've gone to them.
I agree, but still like, well, some don't feel as
fulfilling as maybe we once thought.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
No, And and the Iowa loss this year when they
just got blasted on national television. To me, it was
one that really has to stick in their crow because
I thought the Golphers would be competitive in that game
and it was, you know, a national TV nightmare for them.
They just were never in it. I don't I can't remember.
I'm talking about kind of like what a Viking like
offensive performance against Seattle and that we've seen the last
(15:38):
couple of weeks against Green Bay. It was that way
for the Golphers against Iowa. I don't remember a positive
play that you could take away from that game. And
that that's a whole lot different than you know, losing
a close one at the end or being competitive like
I'm sure CBS thought they would be. Uh And that
that that hurt because you know, I was got a
good team.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I went call it.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
You know, Kirk Ferris has been there forever longest ten
years coach I think at college football. But Minnesota wasn't
even competitive and that that's that's not good at all
as we know.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yesterday we talked about some of the quotes from PJ
after the game. He said, give me one second because
this is this is the one he says. He said,
this is a really good football team. That's earned the
right to play in a really good bowl game, whatever
that looks like. And you know I made the comment
(16:28):
yesterday I don't know if really good with the way
the team when you look at the wins and the
losses and everything, if you could call them a really
good team. I got an email from Craig at one
fifty nine yesterday afternoon says, common, good afternoon. I agree
with you. The Gophers are not a good football team.
I believe this is what you said. Then let the
(16:49):
numbers bear it out, and listen to these numbers. In
seven wins this season, the opposing teams the Gophers played
at a combined record of twenty eight and fifty six
twenty eight in six In those seven wins, only one
team had a winning record, and that was a bad
Nebraska team. The other six teams weren't even close to
five hundred. In five losses, the opposing teams the Gophers
(17:12):
played at a combined forty four and sixteen record. In
those five losses, they were outscored one ninety to sixty
eight average score thirty eight fourteen. In games versus Ohio State, Iowa,
Oregon thirty one and five combined record, they were outscored
one twenty five to nineteen, which is a forty two
(17:33):
to six average score. Now, he goes on to say
the team has not improved at all Underflec. They beat teams,
they should, they lose to teams they should, they get
invited to a second or third tier bowl game and
people get excited. Are the standards that low? I think
the nil money the program is what it is. They
will not be able to compete with the traditional powerhouses.
It just doesn't compute. Why do people think the program
(17:54):
has turned around? And you can say it's better now
Erflec than it was in the past, or however you
want to, how do you want to I want to
call it. But those numbers are numbers. They are glaring.
They are getting crushed by really good teams and beating
really bad teams. And that doesn't I'm sorry, it doesn't do.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
A lot for me.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Well, and it's probably not going to change a whole
heck of a lot. I mean until they can become
the next tier when other teams are striving to become
the next Indiana Hoosier football team, which has been lousy
in the sport for the most part for decades and
managed to turn it around in a couple of years
with a combination of a lot of things, probably a
(18:32):
lot of money as well. Until that happens, I mean,
you just cannot compete against those teams. And I don't
I don't know if people are getting all excited. I mean,
I would say, a really good ball game, it's better
than playing the I don't know if it's the Motor
City ball or the car Minor Key ball.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Whatever.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
They're going to play in a decent game against a
decent team, and they'll be in there. They're going to
play in their weight class.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Probably.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
I think Gophers have had success PJ has in those
ball games.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I wouldn't say.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
I don't know what the email said that people are
going crazy over this or think that they've made big
strides this year. You know, they those stats don't lie.
They aren't ready to compete on the road, in particular
against the better teams. They had some success a year ago,
did they not? And they went out in the West
Coast and with this Southern Cali u clay, but you
know they haven't. They haven't been able to compete and
(19:22):
they're not going to compete against Nike and Oregon and
they're not going to compete against Ohio State. They're not
going to compete against right now. And I assume maybe
Indiana will be on their schedule next year. Should we
expect them to, Yeah, it would be nice, but right
now in particular, it was like for years and years
and years, the golfers just couldn't couldn't recruit against those teams.
(19:43):
Now it's a matter of how deep are your pockets
to try to get those now recruiting annual money and
transfer portal and getting players in that you know, one
or two guys that potentially could turn your defense around,
and it's just so hard to kind of wrap your
mind around what goes on behind the scenes. You know,
just because we have a bunch of fortune five hundred
companies in town. The people who potentially could be contributing
(20:07):
to the golfer program, they may have gone to college
at Ohio State or Michigan, and they're gonna if they
have money, the excessive money could point, they're gonna put
it towards the team. They're not gonna put it towards
the golfers. They don't have any allegiance to the Gold
U of it, to the good old U of M
so I hate them. I'm not just saying it's all money, uh,
(20:28):
but it's becoming more and more every day. It's just
about the money.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
It's hard.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I mean, look what happened with Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
What what a what a joke this was this weekend.
I've never I mean, we've seen situations like that before.
He's telling his coaching staff he wanted to coach the
ball game. Are you out of your mind? Hit the road,
jack and don't come back. And you're telling your coaching
staff you better get out of the bus to the LSU.
(20:54):
I'm going as if that was going to be a
surprise that.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
He was gonna go to LS.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I think I'm in the vast minority because Tendabee agrees
with you, you want to coach the last game? Sorry,
you're out. If I'm the the athletic director, I'm saying, yeah,
for what you've built her, let's let's try.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
To finish this off.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Tenneby his point, is well taken that maybe the new
coach goes, oh, he didn't believe in you, and use
that as a as a rallying cry to let him coach.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Shut out.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I know I'm in the vast minority, but I would
have let him coach out because he is, by all
accounts a hell of a coach, and if he's got
that team to eleven and one, I think I probably
would have let him coach.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
But he's a hell of a coach and he's a jackass.
Well you can say that too. I'm a hell of
a talk So no, I'm I'm not. I'm not a jackass,
and I'm not.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
A very good talk I love Lane's father more than anything.
Mamani was one of the greatest dunges and and human
beings I've ever been around.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I don't know what happened to his kid. Well, let's
take a break, come back. One more segment to go.
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They beat Boston and then they came back and beat
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and I think played their best quarter of basketball all.
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Season with a small ball. The small ball in the
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Speaker 5 (23:54):
They were moving the ball crisply, and they played well
on defense. They were the transition game was looking good,
and you know, it was all kind of falling into place.
So they had nice back to back wins. Now they're
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(24:15):
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And then I don't remember what happened if the NBA
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(24:54):
Of course Glenn Taylor also stepped in. But I w
cl sent me down in New Orleans to cover that
story down there. The only the two one I remember
that the T shirt story, you remember, and then the
Tom Clancy when he held up the paper I got.
I got up to the new owner of the Minnesota Vikings,
and I always remember saying to myself, how much fun
would that have been a Tom Clancy would have owned
(25:16):
the Vikings. I mean, he's he He came into our
studios and of course even at that at that point,
there was no smoking anywhere in the in the in
the building or anywhere, and he just lit up a cigarette.
Yeah it's Tom Clancy, and I thinking, oh my god.
And then they found out apparently there was a divorce
settlement along the way that was costing a few more
(25:36):
dollars than he could afford to buy the Minnesota Vikings.
But for a brief moment, I thought, man, this is
gonna be a riot time. There were several suitors for
the Vikings. We had a couple of others. I can't
remember their names now, but weren't there, Yeah, there were?
Where was uh.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Who was the other guy? Famous guy?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Oh? Well, yeah, I don't remember now, there were there was.
I'll look while you talk. What do you think of
the Wolves? I mean, well, they played the they went
small ball, I guess because women Yabo wasn't in, so Gobert,
four time.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Defensive Player of the Year wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Well, I mean they also made adjustment. That's so much
because Webby wasn't there. But they also had to make
an adjustment because san Antori was beating him at their
own game, right, and they had to make adjustments. And
credit Chris Finch with identifying that. And uh, you know
you're getting some more contributions on Terrence Shannon.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
You know he was hurt for quite a while.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
You know they also then that's gonna put up its
thirty plus every game now, I mean he's almost like
running the point. But he was off the floor for
a little bit in that fourth quarter, which is unusual,
not at the beginning of it and not at the
end of it, but he came back in. But yeah,
I mean it's I think we're so used to the
Wolves as kind of putting the pedal down late in
the year. You know, they always have a couple of losses,
(26:49):
like potentially they could have to night against New Orleans
against against maddening kind of losses. They've already had a
couple of those when they've blown leads late on the
road before this. But I'd like to see him string
together some you know, some real quality wins or even
against the also Rams. You just got to keep going
to try to get in that upper echelon because you know,
right now, of course it's okay seeing the rest. You know,
(27:12):
the Lakers lost last night. Lebron I guess had a
terrible game. But you know, Denver looking good, Houston looking good,
you know, Phoenix are.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Some very very good teams.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
None of that's going to change this year barring any
catastrophic injuries. And San Antonio when Wenby gets back, will
also be a big threat. So the Wolves have to
kind of keep up whether or not they'll end up
making a move before the trading deadline remains to be seen.
I don't see them making a major move, but you
know they I wouldn't put anything past Tim Connolly.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
But yeah, that was.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
That was again the most impressive eight nine minutes of
basketball that I've seen him play this year at home
the other night AI Overview.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Several people in groups are attempted to buy the Minnesota
Bikings include author Tom Clancy. We have failed mid ninety eight,
businessman Reggie Fowler oh god, yes, who was attempting in
two thousand and five, was ultimately unsuccessful as he blocked
sufficient capital.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Other individuals involved in bids included Roger Headrick, Carl poll At,
Ed Snyder, and Red Macombs, who ultimately sold the team
to the current owners, the Will family.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
So Reggie Follower was the name. Reggie Follower was the guy.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Yeah, there there were a bunch of you know, the
gang of whatever that tried to get in on that.
But yeah, that was Red was. Red was a character,
but he didn't want to spend any money.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I think you're going to be going down to Saint
Paul a little more than you thought you were going to.
This this wild club is they're the best team in
hockey right now, and you can't argue.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Eleven one and one of the I don't know if
I call him the best team in hockey.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
It's been on.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I mean, Colorado's lost to once in regulation seasons.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Right, Let's say we we played the Lions how many
times this year?
Speaker 4 (28:41):
One time?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
One time? And what was the result of that game?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
We beat him in a shootout.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Oh so that's tie game basically, and winning in a
shootout the negativity from the left and the right.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
I was just identifying the fact, yeah, little Negatron by
saying a team that is historically good that there hasn't
been a team in forty years to get off the
star collar at Avalanche, and by saying that they're better
currently in the Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
While I'm negative, Yeah, that's done.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I think, what do you guys think?
Speaker 5 (29:10):
They got wild sweatress and they should be happy. Uh,
and then they get hopefully gonna get even a little healthier.
But now tonight they're playing conn or McDavid is over raided,
so that's on tonight. Uh yeah, that'll be fun to
watch me they are. I mean, I was driving home
from our little Thanksgiving trip on Friday afternoon, had the
(29:33):
game off for a little bit, but you.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Were so far in the world. Did I hear that
you actually chopped the head off the turkey and then
I did and plucked from it.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Yeah, we were so far down southwestern Minnesota and Westbrook.
Had a great time U Carnes dad's ninetieth birthday party,
but we ninety We headed back right afterwards because we
were going to spend the night at the weather being
what it was, made the right decision to get out
of Dodge before the snow really hit.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
But yeah, well you weren't in Dodge.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
You were in Beard, Westbrook, Westbrook, which Sky liked west
west of Dodge. Yeah, just assault of the earth. People
just had a great time. Oh man, it was so
much fun. You can have all those fancy they'll get
together as you go to I'd take that ten out
of ten times. Just a lot of a lot of fun,
a lot of great people down there.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
So you know, we always do this all the time.
Ten of people do it five three, four.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Every once in a while, say which Minnesota major men's
four sports team has the best chance as we speak,
to win a league championship. You'd have to say the
Minnesota wail because they ain't gonna be the Vikings and
the Twins.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I guess the Wolves, you know, because they've been the Wolves,
you would, I'd go wild. It's just wrong with the
Jolly Giants. That's not native the Wild. That's positively towards
the Wolves.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
The Wolves have been in the Western Conference finals the
last two years. They've got arguably a top five player
in the league.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Episoda the Wild. Yeah, yeah, what do you think of that?
They got? They got two, not one. They got they
got maybe.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
The best goal in the history of the league. Well
that's the one thing you would to say right now.
They have the best goalie in the end.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
That's all it.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Takes, you know, get get hot next spring.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
It's fun though, I mean, good for them. And you
got the junior tournament coming here at the end of
the month. Uh, and that that's gonna be a lot
of fun. Uh, you know, to see some of the
best young players in the world here except for the
ones in Russia.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
But yeah, it's a good time. It's a it's a
great time. And in the Wild deserve all the credit.
They're packing the place and they got a little road
trip right now. But they're fun to watch and they
you get that kind of goaltending. You got to give
yourself a chance. You look at the standing if we
talk about it all the time because of the points system,
you know, three points separate six seven teams, and that's
(31:36):
probably not going to change most of the year. You
just got to be in the mix player, you know,
hopefully your best hockey next spring, because that's really what
people are going to judge ultimately. Of course, judge this
team by and the and the Timberwolves by now what
they're doing in December, but what they're doing in April
and may hopefully. Gopher men's basketball, yeah, I lost another
player I heard.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah, and you know again, you know, they've had some
good moments, but they've had more mediocre moments in good moments.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
It's going to be a while.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
You always hope right away that, you know, because it
is basketball, you know, five six players.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Bringing a couple of guys in maybe it changes it
up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
But I think his first year, so I'm not you know,
I'm not calling for med betch head. Yeah, not yet
next week, but it might be a little longer. I
think we all hoped you know, he kind of want to.
You know, we're all impatient, but and it still could
be better.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
But it's like it seems like they're again, whether you're
talking to Minnesota football or Minnesota basketball, you're you're going
in the blue bloods in Big Ten basketball, you pretty
much is always you know, it's kind of the same.
It's Michigan State, it's Purdue Michigan at times, and they're
throwing a few other teams that they get get in
(32:43):
the mix. But Minnesota doesn't get in that conversation. And again,
I don't know what the nil money, but you're right,
sometimes it could take one player that eternal whole program
around in basketball, and you know, the Nico's trying to
do his best to make sure that. And we have
some damn good players in the high school league high
school of Minnesota. We have had, as we know, most
(33:04):
of the unfortunately you haven't stayed here. Uh and they
go elsewhere. And that's what that's the key to future
success that keep puts many of those guys as possible,
least a couple of them staying in Minnesota. They convince
them that you know, the money's right. I hate to
say it, but that's the truth. The money's right, and
the program is headed in the right direction Undernico Medvet.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Gophers women's team destroyed Samford, not Stanford.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Samford, No, Samford, right, that's what I said. Yeah, Samford
and Son right.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Destroyed them and they're six and two now they're They're
an interesting club. I I yeah, I'll watch it. I'm sorry,
I know this is wrong with me. I can't pronounce
the name of the the coach, the coach plus squitz
that's close enough.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Can anybody help me?
Speaker 4 (33:49):
I think where's guards are the ending? I think it's correct.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Let's go with Don, Yeah, Don Mara Brown. I kind
of like what coach Don is doing with this club,
I really do.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I think, you know, and obviously you can get a
much more forthright and educated opinion from uh from JG
because he's he's the play by play guys, right by playboys.
But yeah, they they this seems like one of those
you always wanted to we hire the right person? Do
we hire the right person? It seems so far, so good.
I mean, I you know, they not want to Natty
or anything, but I.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Like, no, but you got to go back to the
you know, it's just been a long haul between uh,
you know, Jenelle Macarvell, Lindsay Whaler and the rest of
you know that that team, that Final four team and
where we are today. But yeah, that's what you hope
that you know, they're heading in that right direction. And
again it's all about the recruiting and and uh, you
know like them, like the boys, you know players, there's
some some really good uh high school girls players in
(34:38):
this state. And that's the key thing for for Dawn
as well, to try to They say he's going to
Kentucky though I know unfortunately who Greenway, Chack Greenway's kid. Yeah,
Greenway's gone Entucky? What a trader? How comes you to
go to Iowa? That's I mean, that's uh, I wonder how.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Much following Kaitlin Clark's footsteps.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
Yeah, I mean, man, that's that's plus her dad's footsteps.
But she's she's she's the best far and away, she's
the best player in the state.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
By the way. When you see yellow, yeah, Kaitlyn Clark,
I see that. I will loose over there and I
think a Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, I always love that exactly. Twins made the trade.
Yet you know, I don't think that. My goodness, Vikings
made him move. What they do?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Uh, they just waved a quarterback Desmond Ritter, which oh
JAJ McCarthy is healthy and good to go. Yeah, that's
that's what that means.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Yeah, they got to make sure JJ McCarthy is good
to go for the rest of the season. That's their
chance of moving the needle a little bit and getting
the kid as many reps as possible going in the
off season when they'll sign another quarterback to back them up.
What's his name, Davis smiles, whatever, you know, we'll go
after somebody to have to back him up next year.
How much patience are you supposed to have, though? What
(35:50):
do you think another game rest of this year, all
of next year, part of next year. Well, I know
a lot of it depends upon the progress. But what
if it's I mean, if it's if he plays like
this the rest of the season, I don't even know
how you can go in the next year playing well.
I think that would be a concern if he plays
like this the rest of the season. Given the fact
that well starting this week, I mean, Washington was in
the NFC Championship game a year ago. Look where they
(36:11):
are now again? That they well, they almost beat Denver.
They're playing hard.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I think all these teams except maybe the you know
the right, the very you know what, who's one and
thirteen into the even the Giants are in football games.
Most of them they weren't yesterday.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
But so well, I mean to answer your question now,
I mean, it's it's the rest of this year. He's
got to stay healthy number one, and he's trying to
get more productive the rest of this year and next
year he's going to be. They staked their claim to
this guy being, you know, the future, But you have
to have someone, I'm saying, an upgrade from Carson Wentz,
like to convince that to come in and be that
(36:49):
be in that role, not so much that as adeptician
or a backup, as a backup, as a backup.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
I mean, I think you're ready to go with J. J.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
McCarthy game one next year.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Absolutely yeah, I think absolutely well. I think.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
I mean I was saying this hundred percent. I mean,
I think you have to Aaron.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
What if Aaron Rodgers is available? Aaron Rodgers, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Did he just sign a one year deal with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (37:15):
How about not exactly leading the Steelers to the problem.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
How about if Carson Wentz learns to throw with his
left arm, if you sign him because his right seems
to be shure.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Yeah, yeah, I I I don't listen. Uh JJ has
got a lot of it was left. But I look
at it this way. We remember the end of last year,
the Viking's been fourteen and three. Darnold was awful against
Detroit and that wasn't that wasn't defensive line that game.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
He was terrible.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Then he got beat up by the Rams in the
playoff game, and you let we're all left going, what
was that season about? I mean that was that was
discouraging as could be the end the season.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Then we were one game away from the number one
seed home field of playoffs.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
And he picked that game to have the worst game
of the year and it wasn't close. So that's that
is that the real? Will the real Sam Donald stand
up and we start with the Vikings to do him
on Sunday? You know, I'm not throwing cold water in
Donald's fat k. He's had a lot of success.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
A lot of quarterbacks have had bad games. Of course
they have enough. This becomes a habit.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
This season, they're gonna make the playoffs if he and
his first playoff game is terrible and and reverts to
you know, the Lions game last year, well then all
of a sudden, you can you then talked to me
about man, maybe Donald just doesn't have that actor to win.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
When you know in the big moments in postseason, Well,
I I'm not ready.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Koc has staked his claim to this kid right now,
and I think they got to write it out and
I don't know how many games he put a number
on it next year to see what he can do,
because we sayd time and time again. What really killed
JJ McCarthy was last year not being able to practice
at all. He missed all last year, not from a
game standpoint, he wasn't even allowed to practice. So he
(38:53):
came in and that's where I think the management and
the head coach misjudged what they had and JJ McCarthy
just started him in Game one. He just clearly wasn't ready,
and you know he had that fourth quarter rally against
the Bears, but missing all of last year, I think
they missed they miscalculated his readiness for the National Football
League because he missed all of last year, not from
(39:15):
a playing standpoint, but from a practicing standpoint, and you
just can't duplicate those reps going out there for the
first game.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
So yesterday the montage was sad Eyes, Yes, and that's
what we play at the end of every Minnesota season
when the season's over, last game has gone by, right,
So I asked if you know Tennebe had ever played
sad Eyes before season was completely over, and then I
listed all the teams. You know, we've played him for
the Golfers, for the Twins, the Wolves, the Wild, the Frost.
(39:42):
Then an email that corrected me. He says, we've never
played sad Eyes for the Frost, really, because the Frost
have never They've won the both world championship. So I
have to apologize to the Frost, to Tennabee and all
listeners there. Of course, we haven't played sad Eyes for
the Frost because there's been.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
No reason to it. All they do is win World
champions right right.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
I thought I saw a note from their commissioner recently
because they just expanded to two teams right Seattle Vancouver,
that they want to get to twelve teams. It sounds
like they want to do like quickly, So get to
know your Frost and you might be losing half those
players they already have years. Well yeah, yeah, they lost
like yeah, a bunch of them.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
That's too bad.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
We want to keep them together, all those defenders. Yeah,
that's money talks. You want to keep expanding, but it's
it's good for the success of the league.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
How many points do you think you didn't the Vikings
will score twenty points against the Commanders on Sunday?
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Yes, Sale, Sale, I'm going to sail that that was
the best. Did you get the joke.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
About the singer sad because they said the question was, well,
the Vikings.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Scored twenty or more? Points?
Speaker 5 (40:47):
He said, sale, Yes, I was going forward Ron and
uh and they said they said no, yeah, and of
course certain points.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Chief were you think?
Speaker 5 (40:58):
They also asked Justin Effison was Gonnacore a touchdown? I've
been saying that it's kind of yes every single week
until he does.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Oh that was we met.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
I have enough time to dive too deep into this.
I've perceived a couple of emails from people that thing. Well,
just the Justin Jefferson reaction, sitting away from the team
with a towel.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
I'm not upset about that quite frankly.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I mean, the guy's really been good about it, and
it just kind of after a while, it kind of
just got how many times it wasn't like he was
screaming at players and throwing helmets. He just wanted to
sit by himself and kind of contemplate you. I used
to go to the Viking locker room and Randy Moss.
We'd be waiting for Randy Moss to get to his
locker and he'd get there and he'd go get out
of my locker. Yeah, afro, and nobody would say a
(41:37):
thing about it.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
You want them to be mad, absolutely, You don't want
them to be happy about the idea.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
That he wants out or something. Mollie, he's going to
be here next year, don't worry, he's wait. Under contrast,
thanks for.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
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