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July 9, 2026 44 mins
The conversation with Marcus Sherels continues as he shares a story about an angry Ben Leber, Hawk finally gets to a story about a man who lights his own genitals on fire

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Thank us.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
That welcome back Patrick Morning Show. Marcus Cheryls is our
guest in studio. Ben Leaver's over there as well with
Max and Meat Sauce.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Hi Hi hi Hi Hi.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Here we are yeah and we are back there you go.
Another question real quick for Marcus Cheryl's from the chat. Marcus,
somebody's wondering how you feel about the NIL and college football. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
I think it's a little confusing now to most people,
but I definitely agree with the players getting paid. I
don't really follow it a whole lot, so I don't
know the ins and outs, but I think they'll figure
out a perfect system eventually. I think it's a little
flawed right now and not fair for everybody, but I
do I do like that the players are get taken
care of now.

Speaker 5 (01:01):
Yeah, well, I'm sure you're I'm sure your brother has
a little bit more of an opinion at him. He
was at least a little bit closer maybe with the
people that he knows. I didn't want to ask you this,
and I'm a little concerned because you came in, you know,
twenty minutes ago, and you're like, hey, I have a
story to share about you, specifically about our time together.
And I'm like, oh, boy, so if you wouldn't mind,

(01:25):
I'm telling you publicly the story that you want to tell.
And I'm a little concerned.

Speaker 6 (01:28):
No, no, don't be concerned.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
So Ben and I were exposed. So Ben and I
crossed over. One year was my first year?

Speaker 7 (01:38):
Was your last year with my life year?

Speaker 6 (01:39):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:40):
I was a practice squad guy until the last game
of the year. But we all know everybody loves Ben.
He's the nicest guy ever. I was terrified of Ben
for like two or three years after we were done
because yeah, because yeah, I was.

Speaker 6 (01:54):
I thought you hated me for the longest time.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
And then and then like we met up two or
three years later and you're like hey, and I was like,
wait a minute, he doesn't remember this.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
So yeah, so we're it was like a red zone.

Speaker 7 (02:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
So it was a Friday practice and we're it was
like the pre practice, walked through, jogged through in the
red zone, and I was I was playing scout team
receiver and we're running routes and EJ and Chad were
the linebackers in and EJ was really banged up, so
it's like going through the motions halfway and I was
the slot receiver and I my.

Speaker 6 (02:34):
Route was a little spot rout where I faked like.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
I'm going across the ball and stop at the center
and Ejing Chad kind of confused a little bit, and
then coach said running again. But then the coach whispered
in my ear. He's like, instead of stopping, keep running.
And then so I did it, and then EJ and
Chad got tangled up, and EJ was kind of hurt,
and Chad pushed me, and I kind of giggled, and
then I went back to the huddle. You came up

(02:57):
and you grabbed my face mask and You're like, bleed, bleed,
I'm not.

Speaker 7 (03:03):
Doing this this way.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
I was like, oh my gosh, my career, my career
is officially over.

Speaker 6 (03:11):
Hates me.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I don't know what to do.

Speaker 7 (03:13):
I was like, it's not.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
My fault that I must have went out about it.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
What do you have to say for yourself.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
I have nothing to say. I have nothing to say.
I guess I guess I was protecting my boys. I
don't know, I guess I was. I don't know what
I was thinking in that moment, because that's UH.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Doing that all the time.

Speaker 7 (03:39):
I promise you I rarely did that.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
But no, I will say for the record, there was
never a time that I did not. Like I think
I think early on, we all like recognized, like you're
talented player and like and you were. I mean, obviously,
I think people can kind of tell like you were
soft spoken and like you were kind of what we

(04:06):
wanted every rookie and young guy to act like. And
you just do that. You just did that naturally. Like
this guy just comes to work, he just doesn't he
doesn't say much does he keeps his mouth shut, Like
we want a lot of rookies. And I know that's
like old school thinking. It's not certainly not the situation now,
but you just don't want the overly cocky rookie to
come in and they're just talking all the time and

(04:27):
like wanting to be buddy buddy with everybody, Like just
you got to earn it first. And I think that's
the thing that you did early on was like you
just kept your head down and you just like wanted
to earn the respect from everybody, and you did and
you and so I certainly felt that and I respected you.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Pretty early, except I.

Speaker 7 (04:44):
Guess if you if you're going to cross up my.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Boys words, so good.

Speaker 8 (04:50):
I'm just that one time he saw he's like, oh
my god, are we about to find.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Well, now I need to know who that coach was,
because he's really a culprit.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
And I'm sure he didn't come up and say, hey man,
that was me.

Speaker 7 (05:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
Well, you know, I gotta be honest, Like you get
to certain points in the season and you get to
those Friday sort of half workouts, and and you really
are it's it does become such a mental day for
a lot of the vets, and you're not trying to
get yelled at by your coach at that point in time,
like and you're not like you're just like, just give

(05:30):
me the look that we're supposed to see, give me
the look at what they're trying to do, and like, well,
you know it'll imprint in our heads.

Speaker 7 (05:36):
We don't need any.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
Sort of special teams all stars out here and or
Scout Team All Stars, so that that could have been
Maybe the hind behind the scenes is like, chill out, bro,
chill out.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
You went Vince fawn on Rudy. He's playing like it's
the g D super much great, you would have fought Rudy, bet.

Speaker 7 (06:01):
But it's funny. Did you ever like did that ever
come full circle?

Speaker 5 (06:05):
Like when you were in year eight, nine, ten and
you're in practice and you're like, let me just get
my rep here, bro, and then you have a gunner
coming down want to be an All Star? Like, did
you ever have one of those moments and you were
look at a guy sideways and like come on, bro,
like you got we got to take care of your Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yeah, you definitely have those moments.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
But looking back, being a constant bubble guy, I had
to go hard.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:27):
So when I see those guys, it's like.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Okay, yeah, you can't really saying yeah yeah again.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Mark Shurls is our guest you also, by the way,
speaking of the patch of Morning Show cross paths with
not Tommy but ed Olsen on the Golden Gophers, Am
I right, yep, yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:42):
We He was a freshman my senior year.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
And he was already probably six seven.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
Oh, he was a giant.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
I remember walking in the locker room and seeing some
a pair of shoes.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
I'm like, whose shoes are those? They're like size of thousand.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, what the bet?

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Was your coach? And what was your time at Golden
Go for at the Golden Gofers Like.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yes, so coach Mason was my coach my first year
and then he got let go and then coach Brewster
came for my next three years?

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Are you responsible for him being let go after your
freshman year?

Speaker 6 (07:13):
Luckily not, It wasn't my fault.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
There's that Bowl game, right, yeah, they come back game? Yeah,
oh man, that was that was bad.

Speaker 7 (07:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Yeah, you know, brew and I knew each other. So
brew was our tight ends coach with the Chargers.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
Oh yeah that's right, yep, yeah, yep Gates, yeah, Antonio Gates. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Oh, I'm sure he told that Julia story as well.

Speaker 7 (07:36):
Yeah, I think he was.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
He claims that he was responsible forging Julius Peers in
North Carolina.

Speaker 6 (07:41):
Vince Young Texas, Yeah, Vince Young in Texas.

Speaker 7 (07:44):
Like, you know, everybody's gonna talk about thereat.

Speaker 9 (07:47):
He Now, I don't know they blocked everybody locally on
social media.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Timberster, Yes, everybody, I just saw this. Where is uh?
I think he's not not in the NFL. I think
he's in one of those other leagues.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
Now, Yeah, it was It was interesting because you know,
you see all these guys sort of and I'm sure
you saw two marks, like people get elevated to higher
positions and all of a sudden they feel like they
have to act a certain way. And it's so interesting
because when I started, when he came here with the
with Minnesota, you know, I started hearing these stories about
how he was like running his program, and I was like,

(08:22):
we know, some of that checks out, because he's kind
of a fiery guy. But I'm like Bru was like
he would have us over to his house and like
we'd be sitting by his pool and hanging out. Like
it was just kind of bizarre to hear some of
these negative stories because I'm like, that's not the brew
I knew.

Speaker 7 (08:38):
You know in San Diego Power.

Speaker 8 (08:40):
Listeners, are you feeling here in your story?

Speaker 3 (08:47):
That's funny, Marcus. You also had an interesting career at
the Gophers because you played at the at the Metronome
and then played the first season ever at TCF Bank Stadium.
What was that like?

Speaker 6 (09:01):
Oh it was fun.

Speaker 7 (09:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
I came in as a walk on with Mason. I
was a wide receiver. They didn't even give me gloves.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
The first day. I remember, I was like, I can't
catch the ball.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
And then well then Brewster came in and he kind
of my third year, he moved me to corner and
he kind of explained why I'd have a better chance
at making the NFL or his little spiel. But the
Metronome was so much different than tcfter. Just playing outside
and being being back on campus was electric. I think
we played Air Force at night our very first games, right,

(09:32):
and it was it was so fun.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
And you won twenty to thirteen one. Yeah, yeah, that
was Adam Weber, Eric Decker, I mean that was that
was I know you guys, I think you went six
and seven and says here, but that was I remember
that squad very well and I remember that season. What
a fun thing to be in that outdoor stadium.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
Yeah, it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
We had a lot of really good players, good teammates,
and and just good guys in general.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
What was your because earlier today, even when I was
getting ready to come out. You guys were talking about
high school football and just kind of reminiscent. What was
your what was your recruiting story? Like, how did you
get from Rochester to the Gophers?

Speaker 7 (10:05):
What was that Like?

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yes, I was a running back in high school. We
didn't have receivers in our conference or or dbs. Really
it was all like nine ten. Yeah, so I was
pounded football. I got recruited Division two. NDSU was recruiting
me for a little bit and then they switched coaches
and kind of fell off. But I remember my brother
walked on to the Gophers and I and I asked
him straight up and I said, do you think I

(10:27):
could play at that level? And He's like absolutely, And
from there on I made my decision that I was
going to walk on and give it a shot.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
So yeah, and by the way, a very good running
back in high school. I know you. I believe your
senior season says here. You guys went five and four,
but you were a thousand yard rusher, rushed for one
hundred yards and more and seven of nine games for
the Rockets in your senior year. That's that's pretty damn
good man.

Speaker 6 (10:50):
Yeah, Well, I got the ball in ninety nine percent.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Of the time.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
I don't look at his yard Carr.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Thousand carries.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
A Marcus Cherls. I guess we'll hit this real quick.

Speaker 10 (11:10):
It's time for Fan five on the Power Trip, brought
to you by the Saint Paul Saints.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Thank you Saints Baseball Dot Con. They'll be back on
the seventeenth playing baseball down in Saint Paul.

Speaker 9 (11:21):
Your Twins are one win away from being back at
five hundred. They are forty six and forty seven. They
won in a walk off last night against the Guardians.
They won six five, same two teams. Today at twelve forty,
Bailey Ober makes his return. Your Twins have won four straight.
The Guardians have lost four straight. So something's got to

(11:42):
give today. But they're looking to get to that five
hundred mark with a victory today.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
And I want to play this because Sheldon was asked
about his squad being in the playoff chase, and he
said this.

Speaker 11 (11:53):
The carrot is they play every day. I mean, you
guys are around him every day and that's not to be,
you know, a cliche, but they separate so well. Whether
it's coming off the Dodgers where we got swept and
we played well. And then when they moved on to
the next series against Colorado and played the one thing
I really appreciate about this group is they can they
go day to day and right now there's a lot

(12:14):
of time left, but the fact that we're playing good baseball,
I think is really important.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
I love Shelton same, don't you.

Speaker 7 (12:20):
Don't you just love them?

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, you're baseball fans, Marcus, I do.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
I do enjoy baseball.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
I don't kind of get into it until playoff the
beginning of the year, and playoff time is when I
kind of lock in.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah. Right, It's fun to watch this team because everybody
expected the worst and and it's hard not to be
a fan of that coach in this squad though, especially
with what they're up against. So it's fun to see man.
I love to see him doing well. It's good.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
Yeah, it's a weird thing because obviously we want we
want the we want the confidence to know that the
ownership would make big moves if we needed to, and
that's certainly not the case. No, but I think that
everybody around here, at least I do. I just appreciate
their grittiness, you know, like they know that they have

(13:03):
to be scrappy.

Speaker 7 (13:04):
They've kind of leaned into it.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
They accept it, and they're beating teams just because they
just kind of know how to show up to this
stadium every single day, you know, and bring it every
single And I think that's the one thing I really
appreciate about this this club. It's hard because I almost
separate the organization from the team, Like I appreciate that
about the team, and I just wish that there was

(13:26):
a little bit more piss and vinegar from the organization themselves.

Speaker 8 (13:29):
Yeah, and it's a different person stepping up every month.
It feels like like Josh Bell is amazing in June,
and then it's Clemmings so far this month, and obviously
Byron Buckston's having one of his best seasons ever.

Speaker 7 (13:41):
So it's yeah, it's a different guy.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Ryan's been consistent, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, It's going to be interesting because the.

Speaker 9 (13:49):
Trade deadline is like three and a half weeks from today,
and when we had bonus on Bonus is like they
got a couple guys on one year contracts that they
will probably trade, but they might their trade deadline edition
might be adding Walker Jenkins to the team and right
or left field, but they desperately need bullpen help because

(14:10):
you know, they got Todz Bradley to go seven and
strike out ten Joe Ryan, but when they get to that,
that bullpen is awful.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Idious.

Speaker 9 (14:19):
So when you get down the stretch here and you're
gonna need to start winning games, but you have to
rely on that bullpen. That is, you know, the Gopher
basketball team, and I l is more money into it
than than the Twins bullpen. But if they add to
that sky, you know, the sky's a limit. The division's
not great, but hey, they're taking advantage of it.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Let's see here.

Speaker 9 (14:39):
I assume and I think today is the day that
the LaMelo Ball trade will be official. I don't know
when there's a press conference, but that will happen. But
I expect the LaMelo Ball trade to be official today
because I think it's going to involve like five or
six teams.

Speaker 8 (14:54):
Yeah, I'm sure there's still a bunch of details in
contracts and money to be swapped and whatnot, but yeah,
we welcome to the fold officially LaMelo Ball. Hopefully today
that'll be sweet.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
I'm gonna make a video and so they haven't asked
for it, but I'm going to welcome video.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
What team from where did he come from? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (15:10):
Who?

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Talking about?

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Who did they? What team did LaMelo Ball play for
last night?

Speaker 3 (15:13):
I believe he played for Rochester meo.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Right, you're just sucking up.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
You know, I'm going to suck up to Marcus because
not only did he play football in high school, but
you also All conference honors in basketball? How about that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Sweet?

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, basketball was probably my favorite sport. I was just
better at football. It's a little a little short for basketball,
but I enjoy I still play now and I still
love playing it.

Speaker 6 (15:41):
Watch it.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah. Yeah? Do you want to play with Ben or
are you afraid he's gonna like throw you?

Speaker 10 (15:46):
No?

Speaker 7 (15:46):
You should.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
You need to hook up with Feeling because I think
he plays every Tuesday morning. You see, he plays every
Tuesday morning, like at six am or something like.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
We've talked about playing together. We've played together in the past.
We'll probably play this summer sometime.

Speaker 7 (15:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
A question for you, Marcus about your short stint with
the New Orleans Saints in twenty nineteen. You were placed
on reserve, but was that at the end of camp. Do
you were placed on injured reserved by them or did
you make it into the regular season, don't know.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
Yeah, the end of camp.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah, I missed all the preseason games with a hamstring injury. Unfortunately,
Gotchen kind of got an injury settlement, right.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
So can you give us just a quick glimpse of
somebody that I believe everybody in Vikingland really did just
detests and that would be head coach Sean Payton. Did
you spend much time, did you get to know him
at all? Do you have a different feeling for him? Yeah?

Speaker 12 (16:33):
He was.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
It was a completely different atmosphere than Zimmer. It was
a very veteran led team, so they kind of led workouts,
they led the locker room. Guys were playing video games
in the locker room their couches, something that I was
not used to.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
It at all.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
But Peyton he obviously a brilliant genius offensively, you could
tell from day one.

Speaker 6 (16:57):
Loved to talk, gave a lot of speech. But he
was a really good coach.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Here's another interesting facet of that. The assistant head coach
was a young man by the name of Dan Campbell.
Tell me your thoughts on what did you get to
know him at all?

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Not really, I didn't have much interaction with him. I
just remember him being on the field and yelling a lot.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
That was a hell of a staff because secondary coach,
I'm sure you got to know him a little bit
in a short time. There was Aaron Glenn.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Oh, he was awesome. I used to actually have his
poster on my wall, which crazy. Yeah, that's a full
circle moment. But he was a really good coach and
you could tell he was gonna he was going to
be a coordinator.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
And then eventually a head.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Coach Mike Nolan was also on that staff. Dedas Allin
was on that staff. I mean, that was a hell
of a.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
It was a good staff.

Speaker 7 (17:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:45):
I learned a lot in New Orleans and my brief
stint there, and.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Then you came back to the Vikes first Midge, and
then you went to the Dolphins for just a smidge
as well. What were what was Miami like?

Speaker 6 (17:54):
Yeh?

Speaker 4 (17:54):
So Coach Flores was the head coach when I was
with the Dolphins and it was very Patriots totim a
lot of meetings and they were kind of figuring out
a really young team. Uh So I was one of
the veterans there immediately. But it was fun.

Speaker 6 (18:08):
It was good.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Experience to to go to different teams and kind of
learn different cultures and coaching styles and and terminology and defenses.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
So I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
They're still figuring it out. And yeah, so were you
Did you go when you were in Miami? Did you
go through training camp and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Nope, it was halfway through the season they picked me up. Okay,
so I played five or six games, I'm not really sure,
and then I came back to the Vikings for the playoffs.

Speaker 7 (18:37):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
I was going to ask you about just the the
heat down there, because I had one of my one
of my good buddies played down there for a couple
of years, and he's like, dude, I mean, training camp.

Speaker 7 (18:46):
Is just like it's just the worst.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
And then they did they tried to get around it
because they would do like late night practices and super
early morning practices, so it was kind of a weird
sleep schedule and all that stuff.

Speaker 7 (18:57):
But anyway, it's like he's like, man, it was oppressive hot.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
I was in Miami in the fall, so it was hot,
but New Orleans during training camp was a thousand times hotter.

Speaker 6 (19:08):
It was so humid.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
We'd have to practice at like seven am. It was
like one hundred degrees at seven am.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
It was yeah, idious, I was not used to that.

Speaker 12 (19:17):
Man.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
That doesn't sound fun.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
See, I thought, and I thought that at one time
the Saints, I thought they traveled for training camp and
maybe that that was obviously before your time. I thought
they're in West Virginia for some time, and then and
then they went down to to I forget they now
know anyway.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Metory sounds fun. It does sound hot. All right, here's
the thing we'll break. We'll come right back. One more
segment of the Patrick Morrishaw. Marcus Cheryl's here with Ben Leeber.
We're going to tell more stories about Ben, even if
you have to make them up. Please give us more.
I love it.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
That's so good.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
It's so good. It's Patrick Morrishaw.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
I'm fam.

Speaker 10 (19:55):
Open your free iHeartRadio app search the away final segment.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Welcome back, Patrick Morning Show.

Speaker 7 (20:10):
Then Labor.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Marcus Cheryl's in the main studio. Thanks again for coming in.
Mark has been a lot of fun. Let's get to
him this final segment here. But I've been getting a
couple of emails and questions, and we'll go back to
Zach real quick. Zacha for everybody who wasn't listening earlier,
what is the update on Corey Cove because he will
not be with usend Detroy Lakesmar because he's still playing
poker against all odds.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, great song.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
He's doing pretty well.

Speaker 13 (20:36):
He has outlasted like basically seven almost eight thousand people,
so it's not easy to do what he's doing, but
right now he is I think only what is it,
a one hundred and five thousand chips.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
That is a pretty short stack.

Speaker 13 (20:52):
But the good news for him is that there's only
like seven players away, so once seven more players are
going eliminated, everybody else in the tournament will at least
walk away with money. I think it's like fifteen or
something thousand to start, and then obviously the longer you last,
the more money you get. But the key right now
for Corey is just lasting long enough to make it

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to the money makes some change and Cash's second straight
main event, which is really really cool.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Actually, there you go, So see Ben he does know
how to play poker him.

Speaker 7 (21:24):
Yeah, then yeah, you guys all doubted him.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah I did.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, we had.

Speaker 7 (21:32):
It's still lucky.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
We had.

Speaker 7 (21:33):
I'll just luck. So when did when did they start
playing again?

Speaker 2 (21:37):
You know, eleven am.

Speaker 13 (21:39):
I believe Vegas time s might be one o'clock our time, gotcha.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
So he will not be with us in Detroit Lakes
tomorrow because there's no way he could get back in time,
even if he gets out on the first hand. So
Maxo's going toy for tomorrow's morning's broadcasting. That's the water Carnival.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
It will be a major.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Zach is going to be conducting the initials game. It'll
be Perry meets as myself, Maxo and a lovely listener.
So please join us at the hockey Place.

Speaker 9 (22:05):
It just dawned on me. Are you able to go
at four pm today? Because NBA Summer League starts today.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, I'm going to be You'll be driving and watching
that and texting at.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
The same time, so you will be paying attention.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
That's of course.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Obviously you love NBA Summer League, you know I did.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Marcus Cheryls. Where were you and what were your memories
of the Minneapolis miracle?

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Oh Man talk about from the lows of the low
to the highest of the high.

Speaker 6 (22:32):
What a what a game? Uh?

Speaker 4 (22:34):
I was on the sideline watching and we're kind of
on the bench kind of moping a little bit, and
then all of a sudden it happened and everyone was speechless,
and then crowd went wild.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
And what a memory though that was. That was insane.
It was fun.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, you know, I was.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
I know, this is probably a hard question to answer
and kind of off the cuff, but when you look
back on it, how would you describe just the what
you thought the NFL was when you were in college
to what the reality was when you got there.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
When I first got there, I felt like I didn't
belong at all. I had no idea the culture. And
I remember my my locker was next to Brett Farbes
and when he when he came back, my locker was
cleared out and I thought I got cut, but they
told me he just needed two lockers, one for his mail.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
They moved me to the other side of the room. Yeah,
it was, it was and.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
That hold on that must have meant that.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
So then we were locker mates, locker neighbors, because I was,
it was me, and then to the left of me
was uh, the left me was somebody else. Then it
was Percy, and then to the right of me was
an empty locker.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
I think we were for a little bit.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
Yeah, it was an empty locker than Brett was for
a little bit.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
He had his little garage and it was kind of
nice because.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
I got a little more elbow room as well because
his his his actual locker was like two down from me,
and then he had the one in the in between.

Speaker 9 (24:03):
Okay, so that was you We've talked we've talked about this,
but what was it like the first time he showed up.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
It had to have been surreal.

Speaker 9 (24:12):
He's like a cowboy, right, like that had to have
been the most surreal moment of all time.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Yeah, it was, you know, because we were all I
remember being we were all the well, I was in
the cafeteria at the time when the helicopters were following
him around, and we were watching the news coverage as
it was happening, and so we were out facing the
driveway the entryway in the in the cafeteria, So we
literally watched the suburban pull into the area and then

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you know, time delay or whatever, there's like a ten
second whatever time to lay. Then we see it on
the screen like what that's it's happening right, This is
happening right now, and like in about ten more seconds,
he's gonna be down by the loading dock walking into
the locker room, like this is nuts, and we're just.

Speaker 7 (24:58):
Upstairs in the cafeteria.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
Then you know, later on short time later, we see
him sauntering through the locker room, you know, with this
little you know, cowboy western walk, you know, like he's
ready to go duel somebody at high noon with his
jorts on.

Speaker 7 (25:14):
So it was it was crazy, but anyway you were
you were saying, yeah.

Speaker 6 (25:17):
But yeah, it felt a little surreal.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
And then it's like anything college experience, NFL. You know
that if you put the time in and you work
and you study, that you belong there and you're there
for a reason. Yeah, and that's and eventually I got comfortable,
especially at the part and turn position, and took a
lot of repetitions to get there, but I was pretty
confident at the end of my career.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
What about the lifestyle though, did you what did you
think going in versus like the fact that it became
truly your your job and your profession and you didn't
have to worry about school.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
Yeah, growing up, you know, you never because I didn't
really meet any professional athletes growing up. So it's like
I want to be an NFL player, But that's like
saying you want to be Superman because it's not really that.

Speaker 6 (26:02):
And then it kind of happened, and it was it
was fun.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
Uh, the opportunities you get to give back, especially with
children and kids and and stuff like that, and then
living the life playing a sport you've played your whole
your whole whole time growing up and through high school
and college and and it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
So yeah, yeah again, Mark Schulz is I guess you
talked about being uh, you know, kicked out of your
locker bar brets far But how about your first career sack?
Do you remember who your first career sack was against?

Speaker 6 (26:32):
I do I get this question a lot. It was
Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
It was like it was like a millimeter behind the
line of scrimmage, so I didn't even know until after
the game.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
But you know, that's that's a.

Speaker 7 (26:45):
Pretty cool thing. They all count, Yeah, all count.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah, tell me about that play if you remember it.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
I was playing Nickel. I remember we were in probably
covered two because that's where we're always in. Yeah, went out,
everything was covered. It was in the red zone, and
he went and he kind of salayed and I was
the first one to touch them and it happened to
be behind the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
That's great.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
That counts, man, right, it counts.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
You know.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
That reminds me of just I think the sometimes the
ridiculousness of the sport. So Leslie was, we were always
in Tampa two like that was.

Speaker 7 (27:20):
If there was ever a.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
Time in a game where it was a little bit
of crunch time and let's say they're breaking the huddle,
we saw haven't got our call yet. I mean, it
went in doubt. If you're the green doc guy, just
called Tampa two, right, It's just called too. The thing
that I thought was so interesting about it is, you know,
every every offensive defense has they have actual verbal audibles,

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and you have code words for sitting for certain things
and certain coverages.

Speaker 7 (27:49):
Everybody in the league knew what Tampa two was like.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
It was it was, you know, it is a fundamental
uh philosophy, the defensive philosophy that is, you know, been
around for years and it's literally called Tampa too. So
what do you think our code word was on the field, Tampa.
I always thought it was such a ridiculous thing that

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that we would look around and we would be because
we wouldn't be we wouldn't be huddled or even a
muddle huddle. It would just be yelling out to everybody
on the field because the offense has come up to
lane scream and we're like, like, we're not changing them,
like they know what we're doing, Like I don't. I

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always like, can we change up our code words here
called cobra, I don't know, call it something that's not
Tampa to the quarterbacks gonna walk, He's like, well, I
don't have to break down with the safeties to do
it at all. You got to be the dumbest dude.

Speaker 7 (28:55):
We're playing. They're playing Tampa.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Two right now.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Marcus. This is something you may have never heard before.
Maybe you didn't get a chance to ever or go
back and listen to this, But here's Paul Allen calling
a seventy yard punt return from Marcus Cheryls.

Speaker 12 (29:09):
Snap to hawk, nondescript rush and a high booming punt
by the second year punter drives Marcus back to the age.
He heads to the right side, gets the ten to
the fifteen to the twenty twenty five thirty. Marcus Errol's
in front of his betchangles for the fifty.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Arcas to the thirty touts to the left.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
For the thirty.

Speaker 14 (29:25):
Fenny tripped up for the twenty three longest punt return
for the Minnesota Vikings since twenty sixteen, hits a seventy
yard return. My main man, Marcus.

Speaker 7 (29:39):
H d you.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
I know this is weird and probably not, but do
you have any memory of that individual play?

Speaker 6 (29:44):
Was that the Dolphins?

Speaker 2 (29:45):
A game?

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Was the Dolphins, That's exactly right.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
I remember that, and so their special teams coordinator Coach
Crossman was down there when I went down there, and
we kind of joked about me returning that play on them.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
But yeah, it was fun. And Pa is the best.
He's alway.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
He's another guy that's always been in my corner, always
treated me nicely in with respect.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
So, yeah, who tripped you up? Do you have you
a memory of that?

Speaker 9 (30:06):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (30:06):
Was it Walt? I don't remember?

Speaker 3 (30:09):
No, Yeah, yeah, I've got to believe you thought you
had that touchdown I did.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
I was frustrated.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
I was frustrated after that.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
So I was I was never fortunate enough to be
in this position, but you sometimes see it on NFL
highlights when you're breaking through let's say you get through
the main part of the return.

Speaker 7 (30:28):
Do you ever did you ever look at the jumbo trump.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
I did not.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
No, I did not know because I didn't have like
the the speed, the long speed, like one hundred yard
dash guys.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
So I was my legs were cramping up, and I.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Was speaking of that in a preseason game admittedly, but
you still you returned a one hundred and nine yard
kickoff return against the Titans in preseason twenty thirteen. Talk
about legs cramping out.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
Oh yeah, I needed probably a week to recovery.

Speaker 7 (31:01):
That was tough.

Speaker 6 (31:02):
But no, I remember that. That was so fun?

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Was it the I think it was the one right
after halftime. It doesn't say on the story, but yeah,
it was our last preseason game, and then it kind
of solidified me making the team.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
That Yes, yeah, wow, one hundred and nine yard kick
off return.

Speaker 9 (31:17):
My goodness, that means your I mean the back of
your feet are standing up right on the edge.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah. Literally.

Speaker 7 (31:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
Coach Brief was like take anything out, and normally he'd
get really angry and like cordero and take that out.

Speaker 6 (31:30):
But yeah, we took a chance in it. We're a
good blocking scheme.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Cordero did it in a game.

Speaker 9 (31:35):
Isn't the longest him and uh Crimarti of the two
longest plays and NFL history.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Yeah, Cordero was allowed to most of the time until
Zammer said not to.

Speaker 6 (31:45):
But Frief always allowed Cordeio to take anything.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
He was so good. He's so good, he was so good.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, you know what that that worked out? Well, let's
do another one. This is a putt returned against the
Saints on January fourteenth of twenty eighteen.

Speaker 12 (31:58):
More Skin in his ninth year from SMU takes a
low snap. It's a high punt. Cheryl's walks up to
it and main man Marcus gives it a try. At
the twenty five, shakes a Saint that's to the near
side of the thirty five breaks the time of the
forty cut, He's thrown down by the punter at the
forty four.

Speaker 14 (32:15):
Marcus Cheryl's with a twenty yard return after a forty
four yard punt.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
The punter, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
Yeah, yeah, that's usually a fine.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
So I got fine forgetting tackled by no kidding, you know,
I'm taking uh taking a bit, not really, I'm I.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Noticed, I guess I should say the sound of the
crowd when you started to break. Do you feel that?
Do you when you when you hear the crowd go
like that?

Speaker 4 (32:41):
For sure, you definitely feel that mid play and then
you know you have a chance at returning one.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
But the punter got me. But he did break his ribs.
Oh jo about.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
That, Thomas more staid, yeah, really really yeah that on
that play and he had to finish the game. Yeah,
he said he struggled to finish.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
No, he's still in the league.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
Think, yeah, he's I.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Think's impressive punts for like the Giants. He's I'm pretty
sure he's still in the league.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I'm so glad you said that.

Speaker 9 (33:07):
He was the one guy that came up to you
guys after the miracle, like he got everybody back on
the field when that.

Speaker 7 (33:12):
You still had to kick the extra pod.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, speaking of still on the team,
and you mentioned something earlier, I'm glad you said that's
because it brought it back to me. Harrison Smith was
a teammate and he's still on the team. Talk to
me about being a teammate of his and watching his career.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Oh, talk about one of a kind. He's from the
day he walked in, you knew he was going to
be special. Ben and I were talking earlier. He wasn't
the fastest guy, wasn't the strongest, but his instincts and
body position and movement and brain was just you could
just tell he was going to be one of the greats.
And and he's made a great career and it's fun
still watching him.

Speaker 7 (33:47):
Yeah, you know, I think that that's such a.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
I think it's such a point that we don't emphasize
enough when it comes to sports. And it doesn't just
pertain to football, because you see it in every sport.
But I think a lot of young kids out there
think that you have to be the biggest, the fastest,
and the strongest. And I get that there's a there
is sort of a baseline, right you have to be
moderately athletic in what you're doing. But I just want

(34:11):
kids to realize that it's it's so much more than that.
You know, it is the You have to have not
only a love for what you're doing, but you can
make it so far by just being intelligent about what
you're doing. You don't have to be you don't have
to be like book smart academically I mean that helps.

(34:32):
But like, if you just understand the game that you're playing,
you understand where people are supposed to go, you can
be trustworthy, dude. You can make it so far in
what you're doing.

Speaker 7 (34:45):
And there's so.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
Many kids I think they're like, oh, well, I'm not
fast enough. Like, no, you're fast enough, maybe not the fastest,
You're strong enough. You don't have to be the strongest,
but you can put yourself in a great position. A
high level college player make it to the pros by
just being smart in your sport, you know, grinding at

(35:07):
the at the film study, which you know it sucks
because it's boring. There's been there's been many times where
you know, I'm sure you've done it to Marcus where
you're maybe staying after, you're staying after on a Wednesday
or Thursday, and you're watching extra film and you are
dozing off hard. I mean you're trying to stay mentally
in it, and you're just like just falling out, taking

(35:30):
little little naps here and there.

Speaker 7 (35:31):
But yeah, man, I.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
Mean I think he was one of those guys like
you played with Terrence Newman as well, right, yeap, T
Knew came in and he was brought in because listen,
he was a fast guy, but like he made it
in the league a long time just because of his
cerebral nature.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
And yeah, Zammer trusted him. Right.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
He's been with Zimmer a lot of his career, and
you could just tell when he walked in he he
knew the defense from safeties to nick goes at the corners,
and he just he was one step ahead of everybody mentally.

Speaker 7 (36:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
I mean, shoot, I'm even talking about that with my
young kid. I mean, he's just gonna be a sophomore
in high school, but he's moving from receiver to corner.
And they just had a camp, and you guys are
talking earlier that these high school teams are like all
getting together in the summertime and whatever, and and I
think it's great, just good from the academic standpoint, the
x'es and o's. And he's out there and he's like,
he goes, yeah, we play a lot of a lot
of cover three. And I go, well, that's great. I

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go do you even know what that means? He's like, well,
not really. I go, well, let's break it down, you know.
So I just kind of taught him what it cover
three looks like and I said, you know, when you're
when you're on this this part of the field or
you're this corner, I'm like, do you know who's your
who's going to be your underneath help? And he's like, well,
what do you mean. I go, well, in a cover three,

(36:41):
you know you get four underneath, so you're gonna have
a buzz player that's going to be on the flat.
I go, do you know who that's going to be?
And he's like no, I go, I think that's like
that is something that you're going to have to You're
gonna have to learn, Like I want you to learn
what you're doing, for sure, Like you got to know
what you're doing, but you also have to expand upon that,
and like, is it going to be the outside linebacker
that's helping me? Is going to be the insert safety
that's going to help me? Like you got to know

(37:02):
who your help is because that's going to change your
leverage and how much space you want to give the
receiver as well, and it just allows you to cheat
the defense. And he's like, okay, kind of rolling his eyes, but.

Speaker 7 (37:10):
I'm like, I know that your eyes are rolling in
the back of your head.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
A little because it seems like too much information for
the young kid. But I'm like, that's like the next
you know, that's just kind of the next step of
like understanding what you know, what you're supposed to be
doing on the field.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Yeah, I mean, do everything you possibly can make yourself valuable, right,
I mean that's just the bottom line. Absolutely Again, Mark
Cheryl's been Lieber and a cast one thousands around the
Power Trip Morning Show. I have a couple of things
I wanted to get through outside of football before the
end of the show, and one of them is kind
of a touchy subject.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
So is that the thing we got sent about eighty
times about.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Nine hundred people keep sending it to us. And if
I don't address it today, I don't know. I think
people might not trust me anymore. Yep, And believe it
or not, Guys, this is Dayline Indiana, but not just
Indiana for way, in Indiana, which I've been to a
million times, not far from where I grew up.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Is that where Jim Jones is from?

Speaker 3 (38:02):
No, that's closer to where wrap No different. Yeah, no,
one of these days I muld be right. What started
as an investigation into a stabbing in Arson took a
disturbing turn in Fort Wayne after a man admitted, I
apologize Marcus. He set his own genitals on fire. It's

(38:24):
a true news story out of Fox fifty nine television CBS.

Speaker 7 (38:29):
Did he rip the filters off a cigarette too?

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Or Yeah, yeah that with Selsen Blue. On May sixth,
the Fort Wayne Fire Department investigated a fire detached garage.
Around the same time police were responding to a reported stabbing.
The property owners of the garage that a neighbor woke
them to alert them that the fire was happening. The

(38:51):
owner's noticed a family member, uh thirty six year old
Christopher Peden was missing. Meantime, Fort Wayne police and to
a stabbing victim, who turned out to be Pede himself.
As he was being taken to hospital, he claimed he'd
been stabbed somewhere in downtown Fort Wayne. He also said
he'd been threatened the day before, according to court documents.
Though Peden later told investigators he was being dishonest, he

(39:14):
wanted to be truthful he needed to reveal the true
cause of the fire. Peton said he wren't to the
garage cut his penis off. God, yeah, he cut his
own penis off. With a kitchen knife by the way,
in case, thank you. I don't know why that made
it worse? Made it worse. I'm okay, that sounds very invigorating.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Actually not at all.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
I mean, he told investigators he then poured gasoline on
the penis and set it on a fire on the
floor just inside the door.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Why uh.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Court documents indicate that investigators collected evidence from the garage,
including a red plastic and gas container, four lighter, four lighters,
a kitchen knife, and would look like an injured willieworm.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Oh no, he had to have been on drugs.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Strangely enough, we don't have the why in the story.
We only have the story. So there you go. For
everybody who's sending me that. We got to it on
the Power Chip Morning Show. Thank you for tuning a.

Speaker 7 (40:19):
Somebody had a bad day.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
I'm gonna guess that that thing had given him trouble
for the last time. I mean, Max and I talk
about this all the time. I looked down all the
time and just like that's enough out of you.

Speaker 8 (40:29):
Yeah, It's like, yeah, I've thought about it. Yeah, might
make my life a little better if I did the same.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Had some weird spots buddy.

Speaker 9 (40:40):
So he just randomly cut his penis off and lit
it on fire.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
I think that's the link.

Speaker 7 (40:46):
That's the story, is it.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
I just love that he let it.

Speaker 8 (40:50):
He's like, you know what, just in case someone wants
to put it back on.

Speaker 9 (40:53):
Ye, I'm done with this thing. And guys, sorry, I lied.
It's worse. I cut my genitals off.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Yeah. He made a decision, he was. They can do it.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, right, so there you go. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
And then lastly, Michigan authorities are saying that they've had
nearly a thousand cases of explosive diarrhea. Oh, caused by
a parasite.

Speaker 7 (41:14):
Yeah, I've heard about more people.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Are being infected across several states. H. If you got
a nasty stomach bug that won't go away, it could
be psyclosporiasis, a parasitic infection that causes weeks of debilitating
fiery diarrhea. I didn't I added fiery.

Speaker 7 (41:32):
A little bit.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
I'm sure it's fire. Yeah, it sounds fiery.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
The infection tends to occur during the warm summer months.
I can't wait for winter. But several states are reporting
increases in cases beyond what they would normally expect this
point in the year, Federal Health of Fishers say they
are seeing a higher than expected number of those cases
around several Yeah, yeah, they may not all stem from
the same source. In fact, they're not exactly sure what's
going on. But if you're too in fire, you might

(42:02):
want to contact you.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
And sadly they don't because they don't, like you said,
they don't really know where it's from, but they do
think it is from fruits and vegetables. So yeah, there's
basically kind of a warning lately that you know, if
you are going to eat certain fruits and vegetables, you
really got to wash them very well. They say raspberries
are maybe one of the worst because they have so
many like little crevices and it's hard to wash everything.

(42:29):
So yeah, dude, this is this is not something that
I think it may wants to get And there's no treatment.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
There's no treatment. It just goes away when it's done.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
You just have to deal with it.

Speaker 9 (42:39):
Yeah, there's not And they say, they say it sporadic.

Speaker 7 (42:44):
So you could be doing just fine and all of
a sudden, like you have.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
You've got a dumb and dummer moment where like it's
it's got to come out now.

Speaker 9 (42:53):
Oh my god, this is dwhite stream I may have had.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Don't do that in front of Marcus, please just please, yeah,
be careful, everybody. Raspberries, basil salad mixes, cilantro, berry and
fruit mixes, lettuce, and snap peas are the most dangerous.
So you know what, McDonald's is.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Fine, that's all I see, McDonald That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yeah, crosses, Marcus, I'm sorry to end your appearance of
the Mark.

Speaker 7 (43:25):
Quiet.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
Marks is like I had raspberries guy lastly before we
let you go. And again, thank you Marcus. This is
so much fun. We'll have you on again anytime you wanted.
We'd love to have you on during football season as well.
Let's make this happen more. But just final thoughts on
being able to spend so much of your career living

(43:47):
your dream in the state of Minnesota.

Speaker 7 (43:48):
What was that like for you?

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (43:50):
It was it was, like you said, a dream come true,
being the state I was born in, and all the
support and the community has been really good to me.
And I've made a lot of friends along the way,
and and I've been able to give back to the
state that I grew up loving.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
So except for Ben, you didn't make friends.

Speaker 6 (44:07):
Yeah, we're friends.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
We're friends now.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
I was always I was always friends with you, I thought,
but

Speaker 3 (44:19):
That was That was one of my favorite
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