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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Francis Martel gave me her hot take on this whole
Epstein thing, and I'm like, oh man, I'm in total agreement.
And then I got your second message, which I feel
is like when what you said about lost pop culture wise,
we do not get on you and I we do
not get along.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I don't know that we would be able to share
a couch. Well, Francis, to be honest on that.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Way, though, you want me to get on here and say, oh,
I agree with everything you save any and then the
segment's over thirty seconds later, so she.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Said, and I'm actually I'm all about bad Bunny.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
For what reason are you? Nobody's going to know us?
The catalog is not familiar to the masses.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
How how can you put? Okay, the catalog is familiar.
You just have to speak Spanish and the goat. You know,
our country has gotten way more Spanish speaking. And by
that I don't even mean Hispanic people. I mean like us.
Hispanic people can't be out in public and think that
we're going to be fly and you know, talk trash
about somebody Spanish because the Americans know, the white Americans
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and the black Americans both like the Hispanic like speaking
race are through the roof, so there aren't a lot
of people that speak Spanish, and he does have I
would say, like, you know, eight solid hits that are
like truly great songs. So I'm excited for his show.
Obviously I don't share his politics, but you know, I
(01:25):
think Puerto Ricans in general, from Puerto Rico, they have
their own history with the United States that you know,
their average politics is kind of anti American because they
see themselves as a colony. I'm Cuban, so I would
love to have the deal that they have instead of
communism forever. But you know, but it's an artist, Like
(01:46):
what am I going to do? Listen to the only
artists whose politics.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I agree with it?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So really and Celia Cruz and like a couple of
country guys, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, No, that's a big argument of mine all along,
Even even last week, I really wanted to make for
of Bruce Springsteen, and I was able to in the sense,
I mean, I liked the song, but he's recorded that
song like nine times.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, it just wasn't new anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, but that one uncle you just really hope will
not come to Thanksgiving because you know it's just going
to be a flog.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, well he's a reference point one for that song,
and two because I received a lot of phone calls
here years ago when the show first started.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
From people like I grew up, I'm his biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
After what he said last night, I threw all of
his records away, and it's.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Like wow, yeah, Like I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Like if I love the song, I really don't care
about the political stance. I don't want to sit through
a you know, a dissertation at a concert.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Put it in.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
The music is fined by you know, if it's in
the song, so be it. But let me ask you this.
I love my music. Francis like, I'm I'm I stay
on time. I don't intentionally stay on time of it.
I mean, I love my music. I see movies like Create,
and if a good song is played in the movie,
I'll seek it. I'll be like, who is this? I
got to get this CD? Do you think that the
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possibility exists that I just don't know any song titles there?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And when Bad Bunny.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Does like his biggest hit, I'll be like, oh shoot,
I love this song because that happened with Kendrick Lamar
I didn't realize he was the guy behind all the
music in the Black Panther movie, and I loved, like
one of the songs from Black Panther.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Are you saying, no, Vin, You'll know a few.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You know. The interesting thing for me about that is
that I find Kendrick Lamar extremely mediocre. I'm just gonna
get hey, I'm sorry, I just he doesn't prove my soul.
And you know that's partly a cultural thing too, right,
especially the last album that Bad Bunny put out Photos,
It's so heavily based on seventies Puerto Rican salsa and
(03:50):
that whole Fania All Star scene, which you know, if
you're if you're familiar with where music in Spanish has
gone in the past ten years, it's all He's not
kind of boring, it's it's very, uh, sort of corporate reggae.
Doon the has everybody has the same beat, The lyrics
are extremely vulgar. You can't tell one song from another.
And then Bad Bunny, who you know, I will fully admit,
(04:13):
is one of the worst culprits of corporate reggaedon. You know,
brain Rot comes out with this album that is honoring
the legacy of seventies salsa and honoring people like Willi Golong,
who is, by the way, Willi Golong is a salsa
legend who's hugely into Donald Trump. Amazing guy. He wrote
a song in the seventies about trans rite and now
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he's like hugely maga. But Bad Bunny honors him on
that album, and I think for young people, especially who
weren't around for the first round of classic salsa, being
sort of eased into that culture by Bad Bunny, I
think is really wonderful. And there are three or four
songs on that album that are you know, They've got
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really traditional Caribbean beats and music on there that I
think is really really interesting, and it's something that was
not being done in mainstream music for at least a
good decades. You know, maybe Mark Anthony was doing it,
but but like young you know, young record label stars,
we're not doing that. And I think I appreciate that
as a listener, And of course, you know, I think
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that's been completely taken in English language media. It's all
about this guy woar as rest once and no one,
no one knows what Like Fania All Stars is enough
to say like, well, actually, you know, this album's doing
something different.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, I mean Kirk Coleban performed an entire concert, you know,
in a pixie dress and rock and rock to joint.
That's not breaking new ground to me. That's not me
being a wise guy. It's just the people who are
alienated by that. It's like, then, obviously you weren't a
sid vicious fan, uh in the seventies, you know, when exploding.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
The other side of that coin is that I think
it's really boring when a guy wears a dress to
try to scandalize people, and I think that's a bad
it's a bad move by bad Bunny because you're in
the year you know, he was maybe twenty twenty four
or something when he more addressed for the first time.
Nobody cares, you know, do that in nineteen fifty and
maybe we'll care.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
So let me ask you, then, Francis, are you saying
that you do believe though that the NFL their decision
here was to cater to a specific demographic they want
to appeal to, like you said, the Latino the Puerto
Rican demographic.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, I think it's partly that, but I think they
just they literally just looked at who has the most
plays on Spotify and it's like far and away bad funny,
And I think that's just because I think corporate record
labels have killed American music in the most part. Not
that American music isn't great or that there aren't great
American artists, They're just not on mainstream record labels. They're
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not going to be on your radio, they're not gonna
be on TV. The stuff that's on TV is garbage.
So the mainstream Hispanic Spanish language music, I think it's
just better quality, and so more people are just listening
to that, even if they don't understand the lyrics, because
the alternative is I mean, I can't even name a
rock band that's like popular right now that's new right,
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so well, I don't I.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Think young Blood would have been a great especially with
all of the Ozzy Osbourne tributes he's been doing. Any
won a Grammy for that last night? I thought that
would have been a great way to go. I think
a lot of people did. But Bad Bunny, you know,
made history last night at the Grammys, for whatever that's worth.
And I only say that in the sense that you know,
the Grammys, I've never put much stock and some of
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their wins some years are like, oh my god, that
person's still alive.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Like it.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
They became so known for that. But he made history
last night. I think Kendrick Lamar did too. I think
they were both they both made history somehow last night.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I don't know how.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, And I think it's just the competition in English
language sort of what we called, you know, regular American
pop rock. Like it's just not there, you know who
There's the top voices in American English language music are
all women, and it's stuff like Taylor Swift, which is
I mean, her fans turned on her finally because her
music is just so repetitive and inane and.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Like there, I don't agree, but that's great.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Repetitive and inane? Is that funny?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Is not boring? That's one the one thing you can
say about that guy, even if you hate him. Not boring.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
He got cast and he was supposed to join the
mc U, and I'm kind of bummed the character he
was going to play. Yeah, I know, I'm nerding out
the character. I was glad to see that character coming,
but I guess I cancel plans.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
To do that.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Well. I liked him in Bullet Train. I think was
the movie Bad Guy. He was pretty good. He didn't talk, But.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I love that movie. Bullet Train was was a banger.
I thought that was a great movie.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
So it says here that's Safaira. Am I saying it right, Francis, are.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
We gonna talk about the morning?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Well, it says here it's the Bohemian Rhapsody of Reggaeton.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And it's like, if that's true, that I'm down.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
That is a first of all, one of the most
vulgar songs I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Well, that doesn't I don't shy from vulgarity. Is it run?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
But it's intentionally extremely abrasive and messy, and the lyrics
are just a string of profanities.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
So you mean, Francis, that later today, if I go
on TikTok and I seek out Sephaianda, if I'm saying
it correctly from from Bad Bunny, I'll be able to
go down a rabbit hole of nine year old girls
dancing making videos to the song having no clue what
they're singing dancing to.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Should not be that, that shouldn't be like babies first
Bad Bunny song, that's I would stung with, you know,
like the songs that are more like a cute song.
It's a little o too, but it's like supposed to
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be Shut, which is his song about how he's never
going to get married and his relatives keep annoying him
about it.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I relate to that. I really relate to that one.
I'm with him on that one. Uh. Did you watch
the Grammys last night?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I did not. I fell asleep. I am old. If
I was coming on here, I would have watched. I
wish in the morning.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It's first Monday. How do you not know? By now?
I love it?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Francis earlier this morning, I said, hey, we're waiting for you,
and she goes, oh, I didn't get what stories we
were going to tackle?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Do you know the number there? And I'm like, to
my studio, I.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Didn't get the confirmation email and I have no topics.
And I was like, well, you know what, I'm really
I'm really happy. That's the kind of relationship that we have.
They can just email me and be like where are you.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I could talk to you all day, I could talk.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
To you talk about and then what I found interesting though,
And I'm like, well what about Epstein? And you're listen,
I Uh, it's so interesting you're like, just just so
you know, I really have a little interest in that.
I don't I feel forced. It's I feel really between
a rock and our base, because I feel like all
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that's ever been is a witch hunt for Trump. And
I kept saying all along, I'm like, you're gonna get
the list of names, and you're not gonna like, like
hundreds of the names on this list, all in your
mad dash to get Trump on there, and then you
go hot take. You know, I think it's a distraction too.
And I'm like, oh, then you got to come on,
because I agree with that as well. But I said,
(11:35):
I grimaced through this weekend all the people I went
to high school with posting yeah, their takes on social media, Now,
what are you gonna do? And you know, saying, you know,
Tom Hanks, whatever celebrity was there.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Uh, and I'm giving this these three million pages I
think it was.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
And they say, listen, any name, it could have been
picked up from the TV being on too loud in
the background. You know what they're not even they're really
they're predicating the release of this with Look, these are
just names that were said and heard. They're not giving
me any meat and potatoes.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, And I mean, you know my take on it.
And I wanted to clarify to you that I wasn't
super excited about it because I wasn't sure where you
were at on it, if you were. But you know,
I did the same thing as you. I opened up
social media and it was all people seezing and yelling
about ball or something, and I was like, I'm turning
this off and playing with my kids. I don't care. Yeah,
And the issue I have with the Stein situation is
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that I think it's a distraction. And the reason I
think it's a distraction is because everybody, you know, all
these influencers and some like right wing celebrities, they're constantly
telling me that everything else is a distraction from Like
every time you want to talk about Christians persecuted in Nigeria,
you want to talk about the mess that's going on
(12:58):
in Syria right now, You want to talk about the
fact that we just deposed Nicolas Marutro, who's one of
the world's most horrible tortures and butchers, and that Venezuela
finally has a chance. You want to talk about how
expensive he is right now? You know it's been in
the single digits where I am for a while, as
these power companies are are not being generous with people,
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Do you want to talk about any of that? Anytime
you bring in up anything, some idiot pipes up that
you're not talking about FC And to me, that's very,
very suspicious. And that's not to say that the crimes
didn't happen. That's not to say that the crimes aren't atrocious.
That's just to say that I think it's being weaponized
to silence real conversation about topics that actually affect the
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American people.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Well, never mind the fact that my take, just so
you know too, Francis all along has just been like
you want trafficking. There's trafficking happening in Jersey where you are,
horrific trafficking habit. I'm doing stories weekly here in Connecticut,
but nobody cares because it's not a celebri aready name attached,
because it's not an elected official attached, and believe me,
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there are a lot of elected officials attached.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
But it's very roadkill. I did want to point out
to you though.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
You know what I find most interesting is they finally
like we've got some photos and so oh wow, we
haven't had photos yet. Here's my observation as far as
the Epstein photos are concerned, And if anyone's going to
appreciate it, it's Francis Martel. Like a lot of them
were blurry and I kind of couldn't make out what's
going on. And these candidate there's only one person ever
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in more than one instance, like smiling into the camera.
But it's good, old slick willy Bill Clinton. Stop.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
That guy is bulletproof. He's going to die and be mourned.
And he was a purv his entire life.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, he survived me too. Also, there were like two
las during the me Too era, like hey, should we
revisit Bill Clinton? Like Monica Lewinsky came out, I was like,
hey remember me, and people just ignored her.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I saw where she was going on podcasts and people
were calling her a harrow and it's like, wow, you
dragged her through the mud in the nineties and that
who would have thought in my life thirty years later,
she's now supposed you're peddling her as a role model
to my daughter because she was the first ever victim
of cyber bullying. May you just sometimes yeah, that's how
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they were selling her. And she was doing a little
press junket and I thought, man, sometimes you just have
to wait a long time for the merry go round
to come round, and you'll find your horse, you know,
which is frustrating.
Francis Martel gave me her hot take on this whole
Epstein thing, and I'm like, oh man, I'm in total agreement.
And then I got your second message, which I feel
is like when what you said about lost pop culture wise,
we do not get on you and I we do
not get along.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I don't know that we would be able to share
a couch. Well, Francis, to be honest on that.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Way, though, you want me to get on here and say, oh,
I agree with everything you save any and then the
segment's over thirty seconds later, so she.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Said, and I'm actually I'm all about bad Bunny.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
For what reason are you? Nobody's going to know us?
The catalog is not familiar to the masses.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
How how can you put? Okay, the catalog is familiar.
You just have to speak Spanish and the goat. You know,
our country has gotten way more Spanish speaking. And by
that I don't even mean Hispanic people. I mean like us.
Hispanic people can't be out in public and think that
we're going to be fly and you know, talk trash
about somebody Spanish because the Americans know, the white Americans
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and the black Americans both like the Hispanic like speaking
race are through the roof, so there aren't a lot
of people that speak Spanish, and he does have I
would say, like, you know, eight solid hits that are
like truly great songs. So I'm excited for his show.
Obviously I don't share his politics, but you know, I
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think Puerto Ricans in general, from Puerto Rico, they have
their own history with the United States that you know,
their average politics is kind of anti American because they
see themselves as a colony. I'm Cuban, so I would
love to have the deal that they have instead of
communism forever. But you know, but it's an artist, Like
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what am I going to do? Listen to the only
artists whose politics.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I agree with it?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So really and Celia Cruz and like a couple of
country guys, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, No, that's a big argument of mine all along,
Even even last week, I really wanted to make for
of Bruce Springsteen, and I was able to in the sense,
I mean, I liked the song, but he's recorded that
song like nine times.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, it just wasn't new anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, but that one uncle you just really hope will
not come to Thanksgiving because you know it's just going
to be a flog.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, well he's a reference point one for that song,
and two because I received a lot of phone calls
here years ago when the show first started.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
From people like I grew up, I'm his biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
After what he said last night, I threw all of
his records away, and it's.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Like wow, yeah, Like I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Like if I love the song, I really don't care
about the political stance. I don't want to sit through
a you know, a dissertation at a concert.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Put it in.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
The music is fined by you know, if it's in
the song, so be it. But let me ask you this.
I love my music. Francis like, I'm I'm I stay
on time. I don't intentionally stay on time of it.
I mean, I love my music. I see movies like Create,
and if a good song is played in the movie,
I'll seek it. I'll be like, who is this? I
got to get this CD? Do you think that the
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possibility exists that I just don't know any song titles there?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And when Bad Bunny.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Does like his biggest hit, I'll be like, oh shoot,
I love this song because that happened with Kendrick Lamar
I didn't realize he was the guy behind all the
music in the Black Panther movie, and I loved, like
one of the songs from Black Panther.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Are you saying, no, Vin, You'll know a few.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You know. The interesting thing for me about that is
that I find Kendrick Lamar extremely mediocre. I'm just gonna
get hey, I'm sorry, I just he doesn't prove my soul.
And you know that's partly a cultural thing too, right,
especially the last album that Bad Bunny put out Photos,
It's so heavily based on seventies Puerto Rican salsa and
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that whole Fania All Star scene, which you know, if
you're if you're familiar with where music in Spanish has
gone in the past ten years, it's all He's not
kind of boring, it's it's very, uh, sort of corporate reggae.
Doon the has everybody has the same beat, The lyrics
are extremely vulgar. You can't tell one song from another.
And then Bad Bunny, who you know, I will fully admit,
(04:13):
is one of the worst culprits of corporate reggaedon. You know,
brain Rot comes out with this album that is honoring
the legacy of seventies salsa and honoring people like Willi Golong,
who is, by the way, Willi Golong is a salsa
legend who's hugely into Donald Trump. Amazing guy. He wrote
a song in the seventies about trans rite and now
(04:33):
he's like hugely maga. But Bad Bunny honors him on
that album, and I think for young people, especially who
weren't around for the first round of classic salsa, being
sort of eased into that culture by Bad Bunny, I
think is really wonderful. And there are three or four
songs on that album that are you know, They've got
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really traditional Caribbean beats and music on there that I
think is really really interesting, and it's something that was
not being done in mainstream music for at least a
good decades. You know, maybe Mark Anthony was doing it,
but but like young you know, young record label stars,
we're not doing that. And I think I appreciate that
as a listener, And of course, you know, I think
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that's been completely taken in English language media. It's all
about this guy woar as rest once and no one,
no one knows what Like Fania All Stars is enough
to say like, well, actually, you know, this album's doing
something different.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, I mean Kirk Coleban performed an entire concert, you know,
in a pixie dress and rock and rock to joint.
That's not breaking new ground to me. That's not me
being a wise guy. It's just the people who are
alienated by that. It's like, then, obviously you weren't a
sid vicious fan, uh in the seventies, you know, when exploding.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
The other side of that coin is that I think
it's really boring when a guy wears a dress to
try to scandalize people, and I think that's a bad
it's a bad move by bad Bunny because you're in
the year you know, he was maybe twenty twenty four
or something when he more addressed for the first time.
Nobody cares, you know, do that in nineteen fifty and
maybe we'll care.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
So let me ask you, then, Francis, are you saying
that you do believe though that the NFL their decision
here was to cater to a specific demographic they want
to appeal to, like you said, the Latino the Puerto
Rican demographic.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, I think it's partly that, but I think they
just they literally just looked at who has the most
plays on Spotify and it's like far and away bad funny,
And I think that's just because I think corporate record
labels have killed American music in the most part. Not
that American music isn't great or that there aren't great
American artists, They're just not on mainstream record labels. They're
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not going to be on your radio, they're not gonna
be on TV. The stuff that's on TV is garbage.
So the mainstream Hispanic Spanish language music, I think it's
just better quality, and so more people are just listening
to that, even if they don't understand the lyrics, because
the alternative is I mean, I can't even name a
rock band that's like popular right now that's new right,
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so well, I don't I.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Think young Blood would have been a great especially with
all of the Ozzy Osbourne tributes he's been doing. Any
won a Grammy for that last night? I thought that
would have been a great way to go. I think
a lot of people did. But Bad Bunny, you know,
made history last night at the Grammys, for whatever that's worth.
And I only say that in the sense that you know,
the Grammys, I've never put much stock and some of
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their wins some years are like, oh my god, that
person's still alive.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Like it.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
They became so known for that. But he made history
last night. I think Kendrick Lamar did too. I think
they were both they both made history somehow last night.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I don't know how.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, And I think it's just the competition in English
language sort of what we called, you know, regular American
pop rock. Like it's just not there, you know who
There's the top voices in American English language music are
all women, and it's stuff like Taylor Swift, which is
I mean, her fans turned on her finally because her
music is just so repetitive and inane and.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Like there, I don't agree, but that's great.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Repetitive and inane? Is that funny?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Is not boring? That's one the one thing you can
say about that guy, even if you hate him. Not boring.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
He got cast and he was supposed to join the
mc U, and I'm kind of bummed the character he
was going to play. Yeah, I know, I'm nerding out
the character. I was glad to see that character coming,
but I guess I cancel plans.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
To do that.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Well. I liked him in Bullet Train. I think was
the movie Bad Guy. He was pretty good. He didn't talk, But.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I love that movie. Bullet Train was was a banger.
I thought that was a great movie.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
So it says here that's Safaira. Am I saying it right, Francis, are.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
We gonna talk about the morning?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Well, it says here it's the Bohemian Rhapsody of Reggaeton.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And it's like, if that's true, that I'm down.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
That is a first of all, one of the most
vulgar songs I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Well, that doesn't I don't shy from vulgarity. Is it run?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
But it's intentionally extremely abrasive and messy, and the lyrics
are just a string of profanities.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
So you mean, Francis, that later today, if I go
on TikTok and I seek out Sephaianda, if I'm saying
it correctly from from Bad Bunny, I'll be able to
go down a rabbit hole of nine year old girls
dancing making videos to the song having no clue what
they're singing dancing to.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Should not be that, that shouldn't be like babies first
Bad Bunny song, that's I would stung with, you know,
like the songs that are more like a cute song.
It's a little o too, but it's like supposed to
(10:02):
be Shut, which is his song about how he's never
going to get married and his relatives keep annoying him
about it.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I relate to that. I really relate to that one.
I'm with him on that one. Uh. Did you watch
the Grammys last night?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I did not. I fell asleep. I am old. If
I was coming on here, I would have watched. I
wish in the morning.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It's first Monday. How do you not know? By now?
I love it?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Francis earlier this morning, I said, hey, we're waiting for you,
and she goes, oh, I didn't get what stories we
were going to tackle?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Do you know the number there? And I'm like, to
my studio, I.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Didn't get the confirmation email and I have no topics.
And I was like, well, you know what, I'm really
I'm really happy. That's the kind of relationship that we have.
They can just email me and be like where are you.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I could talk to you all day, I could talk.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
To you talk about and then what I found interesting though,
And I'm like, well what about Epstein? And you're listen,
I Uh, it's so interesting you're like, just just so
you know, I really have a little interest in that.
I don't I feel forced. It's I feel really between
a rock and our base, because I feel like all
(11:14):
that's ever been is a witch hunt for Trump. And
I kept saying all along, I'm like, you're gonna get
the list of names, and you're not gonna like, like
hundreds of the names on this list, all in your
mad dash to get Trump on there, and then you
go hot take. You know, I think it's a distraction too.
And I'm like, oh, then you got to come on,
because I agree with that as well. But I said,
(11:35):
I grimaced through this weekend all the people I went
to high school with posting yeah, their takes on social media, Now,
what are you gonna do? And you know, saying, you know,
Tom Hanks, whatever celebrity was there.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Uh, and I'm giving this these three million pages I
think it was.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
And they say, listen, any name, it could have been
picked up from the TV being on too loud in
the background. You know what they're not even they're really
they're predicating the release of this with Look, these are
just names that were said and heard. They're not giving
me any meat and potatoes.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, And I mean, you know my take on it.
And I wanted to clarify to you that I wasn't
super excited about it because I wasn't sure where you
were at on it, if you were. But you know,
I did the same thing as you. I opened up
social media and it was all people seezing and yelling
about ball or something, and I was like, I'm turning
this off and playing with my kids. I don't care. Yeah,
And the issue I have with the Stein situation is
(12:38):
that I think it's a distraction. And the reason I
think it's a distraction is because everybody, you know, all
these influencers and some like right wing celebrities, they're constantly
telling me that everything else is a distraction from Like
every time you want to talk about Christians persecuted in Nigeria,
you want to talk about the mess that's going on
(12:58):
in Syria right now, You want to talk about the
fact that we just deposed Nicolas Marutro, who's one of
the world's most horrible tortures and butchers, and that Venezuela
finally has a chance. You want to talk about how
expensive he is right now? You know it's been in
the single digits where I am for a while, as
these power companies are are not being generous with people,
(13:20):
Do you want to talk about any of that? Anytime
you bring in up anything, some idiot pipes up that
you're not talking about FC And to me, that's very,
very suspicious. And that's not to say that the crimes
didn't happen. That's not to say that the crimes aren't atrocious.
That's just to say that I think it's being weaponized
to silence real conversation about topics that actually affect the
(13:40):
American people.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Well, never mind the fact that my take, just so
you know too, Francis all along has just been like
you want trafficking. There's trafficking happening in Jersey where you are,
horrific trafficking habit. I'm doing stories weekly here in Connecticut,
but nobody cares because it's not a celebri aready name attached,
because it's not an elected official attached, and believe me,
(14:04):
there are a lot of elected officials attached.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
But it's very roadkill. I did want to point out
to you though.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
You know what I find most interesting is they finally
like we've got some photos and so oh wow, we
haven't had photos yet. Here's my observation as far as
the Epstein photos are concerned, And if anyone's going to
appreciate it, it's Francis Martel. Like a lot of them
were blurry and I kind of couldn't make out what's
going on. And these candidate there's only one person ever
(14:35):
in more than one instance, like smiling into the camera.
But it's good, old slick willy Bill Clinton. Stop.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
That guy is bulletproof. He's going to die and be mourned.
And he was a purv his entire life.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, he survived me too. Also, there were like two
las during the me Too era, like hey, should we
revisit Bill Clinton? Like Monica Lewinsky came out, I was like,
hey remember me, and people just ignored her.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I saw where she was going on podcasts and people
were calling her a harrow and it's like, wow, you
dragged her through the mud in the nineties and that
who would have thought in my life thirty years later,
she's now supposed you're peddling her as a role model
to my daughter because she was the first ever victim
of cyber bullying. May you just sometimes yeah, that's how
(15:25):
they were selling her. And she was doing a little
press junket and I thought, man, sometimes you just have
to wait a long time for the merry go round
to come round, and you'll find your horse, you know,
which is frustrating.
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