Full Show Podcast: 18 July 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hell are you Great? New Zealand's Welcome met A Tyler
Full Show Podcast number one six four for Friday, the
eighteenth of July. If you like this podcast, Hella friends.
We had a great chat today about various things. I
really enjoyed the stuff on fashion crimes that we finally
got to good chat about the eighties and goths, goths
and San Diego, and yeah, like lowering, the lowering the

(00:41):
voting age, got pretty heated, got very heated, very controversial,
pretty hated, and actually got pretty lude. The chat around
the Tory far Now situation and the letter and the bloody.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Talk of pendulous bits of the human body.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, pretty lude. Probably too lude for ZB so lucky
it's in the past now and on this podcast is.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Good chat though, So download, subscribe and give us a
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Speaker 2 (01:09):
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Speaker 1 (01:11):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
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Speaker 3 (01:20):
Talk said, be very good afternoon to you. Welcome into
Friday Show into the week for most of us. Hope
you're doing well. Jesus, good to see some sunshine up
here in Auckland.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I say that you got yourself a coffee, tyler, but
not me. I got your coffee this morning, and then
you just got your cell phone and not me.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
One.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
What do you say about a man that doesn't repay favors.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'll tell you what. They ran out of cream down
at the coffee shop, so I know that you if
it doesn't have cream in it.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
If it doesn't in it, then I'm not drinking it.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Ok Yeah, yeah, you can have some of that, though
it's luke warm at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I need something to warm myself up. It's freezing in
the studio.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, see, because I'm pretty sure it's Ryan or maybe
it's hither In the morning, she cranks it up to
about twenty five degrees right and fair enough at six
o'clock in the morning. She's a bit chilly. Then I
come in and I wake it down to eighteen. So
there's a bit of fighting going on with the old
ac right.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well, I've waked it up to about twenty seven again,
so it'll be heating up pretty soon.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Okay, it's going to be fun afternoon right to today's
show after three o'clock, as we always do on a Friday,
New Zealander of the Week nominations are open.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, who will it be. There's a few people that
have stood up this week, but nine two niney two,
nothing's locked in. If you've got a suggestion for New
Zealand of the Week, someone that you think needs to
be honored on Matt and Tyler afternoons, then fire it
through nineteen nineteen yep.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Also, we want to have a chat about fashion faux
pas or bits of fashion that make absolutely no sense.
So this was after singer an actress Suki Waterhouse. She
suffered a hernia and the poor thing because her pants
were too tight.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
The poor thing, the idiot. If you we have pants
so tight that you get a hernia, there are you
a poor thing? That's an own goal.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
She was a numskull and I think she said that
her self.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
That's a self inflicted injury. But there's a lot of
those going around fashion fashion crimes and being a fashion victim. Yeah,
it's being a fashion victim. I think that's in the
literal sense. She's a victim of fashion. I think fashion
victim normally means something else. But we want to talk
about that. Yeah, because I've got questions around high heels
and why anyone would wear them.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, see they do.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
It's so risky. As I said yesterday when we were
going to talk about this, but we ran out of time.
What happens if there's a volcano? How do you get
away from the lava?

Speaker 3 (03:17):
You got to think about these things absolutely. That is
after three o'clock, after two o'clock, it's happening. In the UK,
they will soon give sixteen and seventeen year olds the
right to vote in all elections. That's a major overhaul
of its voting system, so they One of the reasons
that they've done this is to align with Scotland and Wales,
who made the move to allow sixteen year olds to
vote a couple of years back. This is the quote

(03:39):
from Keir Starmer, the UK Prime Ministry. He said, they're
old enough to go out to work, they're old enough
to pay taxes and I think if you pay in
you should have the opportunity to say what you want
your money spent on, which way the government should go.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, a load of rubbish, sixteen, there's no way you
should vote when you're sixteen. We don't let people drink
when they're sixteen. I reckon make it twenty five. I
think go the other way. I think I was an
idiot until I was twenty five.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Arguably, as I said before, I'm still an idiot.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Strong argument for that, but I was definitely a.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Completely idiot up to twenty five. You haven't lived, you
haven't done anything. You'll either be voting for what your
teachers have told you at school or what your parents
have told you. You haven't been out in the world.
You know, you haven't worked a job. I don't. Yeah,
don't let the idiot's vote. Don't let the idiot's vote
to the.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Tive twenty five. That's going to be controversial, and I'm
going to go the other way. I'm going to say,
let the sixteen sixteen year olds have their say. At
the moment, less than one in two of us can
be bothered to vote in the local body elections. It's
a mess, we all know.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
And what you think is sixteen year old's going to
bother if forty five year olds aren't bothering, You really
think sixteen year olds are going to go look, I'm
absolutely going to mail in that vote.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Well, thank you, because that's my logic. The sixteen year
olds that are dumbasses, they won't bother to vote, and
then nobody's got a problem. But the sixteen year olds
that are clever, that take it seriously will be the
ones to vote. I would argue that it's just the
smart ones that would actually take.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
An interest, that the ones that will vote are the
ones most radicalized by TikTok.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. That's after to a clop it right now,
let's have a chat about what's happening down in Wellington.
This is about Ray Chung, of course. So two more
candidates have quit has meural campaign as a fallout continues
from what was described as a gossip field email he
sent about Torrefano detailing a sex and drugs rumor. It
now brings the candidates. So we've quit this group this

(05:28):
week rather to three, so it's quickly falling apart for
Ray Hung.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Am I missing something? This is the question that I
want to ask, why is this such a scandal? A
guy heard some gossip and emailed it to a few
people at his work might be a bit weird and
maybe it's classless. But I don't quite understand why it's
such a big scandal. Why are people running like rats
from the campaign? Why are people heckling someone at a gig?

(05:54):
Is it really so bad that people need to get
out and heckle someone over it?

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Well?

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Why are we even talking about doesn't everyone gossip?

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Surely?

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Surely it's this is the weakest political scandal yet and
it's been going on for a week. Seriously, am I
missing something here? I mean, look, if I heard a
rumor about Wayne Brown, then I would tell everyone. Oh,
we would, and I would expect people in the council
to do the same, whether it's you know, sounds real

(06:28):
or not. And we'll listen to the We'll listen to
the full email, the full email, and it's got all
the tenets of something that's not true. But let he
who has not gossiped cast the first zone, I'd say.
I mean, am I an evil personal or do most
people gossip about people at their work? I just want
to know what I'm missing here. Have all these people

(06:50):
that are running around hat clang and being absolutely outraged?
Are they all people that would never gossip, and they've
never seen anything behind anyone in the back, and they've
never heard something salacious that tenuously slacious and haven't shared
and they've never shared that.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Oh, there's been political rumors since day dot. There's always
political gossip doing the rounds and whatever part of the
country you're in. Absolutely, and again we will read out
the full email. But I would want to know what
was said in that email. I suppose that's where I'm
coming from, as if I was voting in Wellington, I'd
like to see what Ray Chung has written in this
particular email, so then I can make up my mind

(07:29):
and think, is this a guy that I want to
vote for? Do I really care about this? Of course
we all gossip. Is it as much of a scandal
as clearly those on the left are trying to make
it to be. But I'd still want that information front
and center, so I can make up my mind and thinking,
is Ray Chung a weird dude? And do I care
about that?

Speaker 2 (07:45):
So what's particularly the allegation against him that's so bad
that he's spread a center lude email to undermine Two
years ago? It was yeah, twenty twenty three, so two
years ago he sent to lude email about a rumor
that he heard correct about the current mayor. Yep, correct,
So that's the accusation.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, that is the accusation.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Okay, well maybe that's not good. But isn't it the
mildest scandal in the history of scandals? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:11):
And the timing is interesting, Well, it's not even interesting.
Clearly it was timed to coalign with his meural campaign,
So why wait two years to then reveal that email?
But it was about Torri Farno and her word was
she felt it was gross. So can you hear from
you on this O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
nineteen nine two is the text? Should we read out
the email now or after the break?

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Let's read it out after the break.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Okay, let's play some messages and we'll come back with
that full email. It is fourteen past one.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, but oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty What
do you think about this whole thing?

Speaker 1 (08:41):
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Speaker 3 (08:51):
Be afternoon, sixteen past one. So we're talking about the
situation with Ray Chung down in Wellington. His Meyal campaign
is very quickly going off the rails. Two more associated
with that campaign have now quit over what was called
a vile, gossip filled email. So the question we're asking
is is the scandal worth? What the content was in

(09:13):
this email? And Matt, you've asked what have you missed here?

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I've asked the question why have I missed? Why is
this such a scandal? Dude heard some gossip and emailed
a few people about it. Who hasn't done that?

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (09:26):
So we're really keen to hear your thoughts on eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. So here is the email
and then you can give us your thoughts about whether
this goes too far or the scandal was a bit much.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
And look, maybe it was worth one day of news,
but is it was going on to the second week
of this Yeah? Anyway, Okay, you're going to read it.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yep, I'll read it in its entirety. It says, hey, folks,
despite the drizzle this morning, I still took my dogs
for a walk and on the way back bumped into
one of my neighbors who stopped for a chat. He
mentioned that his son and his friend went into a
pub crawl last week and while there did what all
young boys do, drink and chat up women. But often
it's the woman who make the advances, and in this case,

(10:05):
a couple of women came up and groped their butts,
with one saying to him, if you come home with
me to nights, I could give you a night of
sex to beat any nights you've ever experienced. They chatted
for a bit longer and drank some more, and the
woman talked about having some drugs at home that would
really cap off their night and welcome in the new year.
So it came to pass that this is what they did,

(10:26):
and they really did have a night of debauchery to
be remembered. They described some of the more physical attributes
of this woman, including her pendulous soft breasts.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Beg your pardon or.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Read that line again. They described some of the more
physical attributes of this woman, including her pendulous soft breasts like.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
A like a pendulum.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, quite descriptive.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
So stretch doesn't sound like the words of a how
old is the kids supposed to be?

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Doesn't say?

Speaker 2 (10:55):
I mean I can't I mentionine like someone in there.
I don't know how old these howl? Did he say
when they were going out, sorry to interrupt you, like
all young boys? How did he say?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yes, I'm just going to go to the top here.
So like all young boys, they went out to drink
and chat up women.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, but I don't think there's many young that may
be true. I don't know about that. Of all of
them do it, but I think one hundred percent of
them don't say pendulous.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Not to their old man anyway. I mean, this was
a conversation the son had to his dad and the
neighbors said this to Raja Chung. Okay, So then it
goes on to say, so why do I think you
might be interested in reading about these young bucks adventures? Well,
after they finished about of tempestuous sex, they lay back
and he asked what she did, and she replied, don't

(11:41):
you know who I am? I'm the mayor of Wellington.
So he said not really, what do you do? So
she showed him on her phone that she really was,
and that is where the email ended. And we've got
to say, obviously, Torri Farno came out and strongly denied
that particular rumor and called that email gross.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Tempestuous, characterized by strong and turbulent or conflicting emotion.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I mean, these aren't words that I can as a
young person saying. But then again, it's through the through
the through the lens of the father, I mean. And
all rumors are like that, aren't they. They're just there,
always one step back. Yeah, there always there, always someone
said someone did this. I ran it to someone and
they said someone did this. Ye, so you know I

(12:27):
listened to that there and and we're not really talking
about you know, she's she's denied it, and there's no
evidence to support this is true apart from this, this
this particular piece of piece of gossip. But it doesn't
sound like a true story to me.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
No, No, it just doesn't.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I hear a story like that, I'm going to go,
what it's the what are you talking about? Yeah, it's
a weird story man.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
And and whatever I think about Ray Chung, I generally
when he when he apologized for it, I think he
was genuine that he thought he was providing information to
people he thought should know about this. So call that naivety,
but I don't think it was malice. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well, this Texas is a public figure throwing around unsubstantiated. Six,
Your gossip about another public figure is really techy in vulgar,
especially when it's coming via two young boys and a
pub crawl. So yeah, but he didn't really throw it around.
He just sent quite odd email to how many people
It's a few counselors, right.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, it was a handful of people.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
So the email going public was that? Was it Tory
herself who released the email publicly?

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, so at some stage she was left that email
and then two years later she released it to the public.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, So he wasn't He wasn't just taking that to
the media. No, he was sending it within in a
closed email to people at work exactly.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
I eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. We've got a whole bunch of people
on the phone, so we'll get into it very shortly.
And if you want to send a text message nine
to nine two. But I eight one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. It's twenty one
past one.

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Speaker 3 (14:36):
Twenty four past one, and we're talking about the political
scandal involving Ray Chang. The latest out today's two more
candidates have quit his meural campaign. But can you get
your views on.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty this Texas A guy
seems like Ray Chung's election campaign has gone a bit
soft and pendulous. That's from Mat Yep Yeap. That's interesting
this Texas says the basic worth summer so much coming
through here. The guys, the scandal isn't this. The scandal
is that Tory was the most dreadful mayor ever ship

(15:08):
of Wellington. That's the problem. None of this matters, cheers John.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
A lot of people in Wellington would feel that way.
I mean the timing. There's a lot of questions to
be asked about the timing of the release of that email.
But oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Tim, Welcome to the show. What do you think about this,
this whole scandal?

Speaker 5 (15:26):
You good?

Speaker 8 (15:27):
After Christ?

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Well, it's interesting, uh tittle tattle. You know, the neighbor
feeds a story to Ray Chung, and Ray Chung probably
you know, to his credit, alerted his colleagues because he
thought it came down to a matter of standards. He
didn't want this coming back on the council. Okay, so

(15:52):
then one of his trusted acquaintances there has either said
this email to Tory far now or someone's email has
been hacked. So the more you go down the line
and it gets quite grubby, really it really does. Uh

(16:13):
you know, I love these people. They live under an
veneer of respectability and whatever Tory did or did not do,
it needs to be confirmed or tonight I'd be speaking
to the neighbor, the young men and Tori and see

(16:34):
who blinks.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Do you think do you think that you think Ray
should have before he because you're saying he's heard he's
heard a rumor basically, and then he shared it with
the council because because in your opinion, he thought that
that need they needed to know. The other council members
needed to know this in case it was true. But
maybe he needed to Did he do due diligence on

(16:56):
his investigation before he shared it, because because all he's
heard is walking. He's walking as he's walking his dog,
and he hears the story and then that same day
he's emailing people. You know, I went for a walk
this morning and I heard this sounds pretty you know.
I mean, my question is with us worthwhile being a scandal,
But I don't know, it doesn't. Maybe maybe he should

(17:18):
have investigated fully if he thought it was he thought
it was something that was bad for the council or
bad for the governance of Wellington, that this if this
had happened, then maybe he should have done but more
investigation himself.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
Well you have to do. You've got to qualify something
before you print them. Be damned type of thing, isn't
it really?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (17:38):
And there was there was suggestion of illicit substance use.
Now if that was the case, there was the route
to go down, wasn't there.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Well, yeah, absolutely, I mean that seems to be the
correct authorities. Yeah, I mean that's the only accusations of
a legal behavior in the whole letter, So maybe that's
all that he should really have been talking about.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
Yeah, he could have done a lot better, and possible
that the mayor, the mayor of the time, could have
done better. You could do what she wants up to
a point, the point that you know, it gets a
bit difficult if illegal substances are getting involved. Yeah, it's

(18:27):
hard to imagine as LuSE as she's been, you know,
with the drinking and doing runners in that, that she
would put herself in that position.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, and it's fair to say tim she she's denied
those rumors. And I hear what you're saying. When the
email has been made public and reach Ung did apologize
for it, but it worked at best, it's naivety. At worst,
it's malice, but it doesn't seem like malice. But the
timing to me as well, there should be some questions
around that that. I agree the email to me was

(18:58):
quite full on, and whether someone who writes an email
like that should be trusted with the mayoralty of obviously
like Wellington, I probably would lean to know, but be
released that email in an election year two years after
the fact is not exactly above board either.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
Well, that is what it is. You've got, you know,
maybe there needs to be a new broom go through there.
And you know all of these, you know, people involved
in this, can you really trust any of them?

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Well, I mean it doesn't make anyone look that that great.
But my question is who doesn't gossip? Like maybe we
wish we were people that didn't gossip, And maybe we
wish we were the type of person that we were
walking a dog and someone come and came and told
a story like that about someone we work with in
a high stakes environment, you're the government of a city.
Maybe we wish we were that kind of person, But

(19:53):
who is that person? Who is the person that's out there?
And you know, if everything that we texted or messaged
our friends was released, then I don't know how good
anyone would be looking, right.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
We all gossip, and I mean, if you're one of
the few people out there that doesn't gossip, then you
must be mother Teresa. But you're right, I mean Facebook messages,
probably emails, work emails. There'd be a bit of gossip
going on work emails, undoubtedly.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, Matt, you sleezy scumbag. Would it be fine for
you to send sleezy gossip stamp shade of emails about
your mates if they are talented women? I would lose
my job if I did that. And as far as
from the and I'm as far from the lift as
I think as you can get, it's his lance. Yeah, yeah,

(20:42):
the email part of it is a bit weird. I
don't know, but you know, I'm not. I don't operate
in a high stakes area in my life over my
various companies. It's not very high stakes, right, So maybe
I don't think maybe he thought it needed to be
written down and sent officially to the council members in
a way that I would probably just grab Tyler and
go to hear what bloody or grab someone else and

(21:04):
say to you what Tyler was up to. I was
just walking my dog and I heard Tyler got up
to the weekend. Yeah, I'll probably just say it to them.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
It's water cooler jat Yeah exactly. Oh, one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Really, can
you get your views on this? It is twenty nine
to two.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
Wow.

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(22:03):
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(22:26):
full column at ends at Herald Premium. Now back to
matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Thank you very much, Raylean and we are discussing what's
going on with Ray Chung down and Wellington. Two more
candidates today have announced they've quit his meyoral campaign. But
the question we're asking, and we read out the full
email earlier this hour. We're not going to read it
out again. But many people have seen it.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
A lot of people were angry that we read it
out at all.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, they're very angry on that. But the is it
the storm more than it should be for something like this?
This is gossip?

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Are we missing something? Why is this such a scandal?
Dude heard some gossip and emailed it to a few people.
I mean it might be weird, slightly classless, as I
said before, But is it the biggest scam in the world?
Is it worth going along to events and heckling over
and the big picture of things that have happened in Wellington?
Is this really the thing that would get you off

(23:19):
the couch to go along and heckle someone?

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Why is it such a big deal? It's weird. The
whole thing is weird. And the way he writes it
makes me think he might be a bit of a
strange individual. And it doesn't read like the truth. Yeah,
you know, there's something about the story that's that like
a lot of rumors you hear, but who doesn't spread
rumors This Texas says, if the Left was as efficient

(23:43):
at running a city as they are at last minute
hit pieces, Wellington would be in good hands.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah. Yeah, and again you've got to ask questions about
the timing. But just to that point, Matt, it's got
it all, doesn't it. It's got sex, drugs, maybe not
the rock and roll part, and that's why people love
about it. They love it.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
That's why it stayed in the news because it's got
enough elements. So it's got a COVID email, so we
get to read an email that was secret, so that's
been released, so that's interesting. It's got a scandalous part
about it, yep, so that keeps it going.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
It hits all of those elements that we love.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
It's got a defunctional counsel that has been at each
other's throats yep. And Wellington's in a terrible state, so
that's the focus of it. So it's just got enough.
Maybe that the email in itself isn't really a big deal,
but it's just it's just got all the elements of
a story that people keep talking about. People love drama. Yeah,

(24:37):
ask this question, what do woman think as a woman?
Not left your righty? So maybe that's what I'm missing.
I'm not a woman, so maybe that's part of it.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
of call love to get your thoughts on this.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Please do not read the email again.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Okay, okay, all right, we can prompt you that. No,
we won't read that email again. Jimmy, how are you mating?

Speaker 8 (24:59):
Bhi guys? How are you mate?

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (25:01):
Good, listen, this was two years ago. Come on, you know,
obviously good at Maybe maybe this guy change pissed off
that he wasn't involved. You know, two young guys are
having a good time. She's out having a good time.
I say, good luck. It's old bloody rubbish mate. You know,
we need to grow up for goodness sake.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
She's strenuously denied, she's strenously denied that it ever happened.
And I don't think anyone's directly talked to any of
the young guys. So it's it's really what That email's
kind of third hand from from Ray Chung, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (25:38):
Yeah, but how many young guys would jump at it?

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Mate?

Speaker 11 (25:40):
Just be honest, you guys, take care of have a good.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Day, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Well, yeah, I mean but in this alleged situation, I
mean definitely young guys that would jump at this alleged situation.
There's prays about that.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, exactly. It's the number to call. Plenty of thiks
coming through on nine to nine two. We're a little
bit late, so we had a place of messages.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
The text to said, let's face it, he got excited
over the tea. You know it. He really shouldn't have
said that, sent that email. But it's defamation, defamation of character, right, Okay, okay, Yeah,
I mean he got excited about the tea. That's what
I'm saying. Who doesn't get excited about the tea?

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Though?

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Well your gossip, we all spill the tea. Exactly. It
is twenty two to two.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
A fresh take on took Back.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons have your say
on eight hundred eighty eight news talks.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Be very good afternoonsue. So we are talking about the
situation with Ray Chung Down and Wellington. The latest is
two more people have left his meural campaign. It appears
to be going off the rails. But the question we're
asking is is this a bit of a storm and
a teacup?

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah? Why is everyone running for the hills over what
seems to be a reasonably mild scandal. He sent an email,
he heard some gossip. He send an email to some counselors.
Two years later, someone leaked it, so it doesn't seem
doesn't reflect well on him, but it's not. There's much
worse things. As I said before, I don't think I'd
get off my couch to go and heckle people their

(27:08):
live appearances over it. Yeah, this Texas says, here's scum.
I don't gossip. If you gossip, you shouldn't be on
the radio. Can't believe you proudly said you gossip. I
don't gossip, my son doesn't, and my husband doesn't gossip.
Maya talking to people and believing a silly story and
spreading it is disgusting. You two spreading it further is
even more disgusting.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Wow, is that written by the Dalai Lama that there
wouldn't be so many people out there that don't gossip?

Speaker 2 (27:35):
I wonder how many people out there. I mean, I
didn't say as proud of gossiping, but I said gossip,
and I think I mean everyone I knows gossip to
me at some point about something.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
The idea that no one gossips and no one hears
interesting stories, and then.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
That's human nature.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
That the idea that someone would be that pure that
they never gossip.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Really one hundred percent, that is human nature, right, I mean,
that is what we are biologically kind of designed to
do with storytellers. But we've got bits of information that
we think are interesting and we tell that to the
people so that we go up, you know, we get
a bit more status in our community or tribe. That
is just what we do. One hundred percent. We're wired
to do those things.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
So this woman says that she doesn't gossip, her husband
doesn't gossip, and his son doesn't gossip. They must be
the most pure family in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call love to hear your thoughts on this one.
We're getting so many texts coming through.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
It's not about the gossiping, it's the putting it in
an email without any proof. Bonkers. Just shows the character
of the man, and he shouldn't be mayor thanks.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
This one's in a similar vein. Actually, what what Ray
Chung's email shows is that he lacks judgment. What he
did was beyond stupid. No way would I trust his
judgment on civil matters, especially at a time when Willington
needs all the help it can get. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Mark?

Speaker 3 (29:01):
What's your viewer about this so called scandal?

Speaker 11 (29:05):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (29:05):
I thought I'd just bring up and have a bit
of a gossip about gossipling.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Man.

Speaker 12 (29:11):
I don't know, Man, I haven't read the email. I
hadn't actually heard anything about or if I what's what
I have seen on the net, And looks like he
probably shouldn't have seen what he said.

Speaker 13 (29:22):
And I try not to gossip. I don't, but should
it's hard work in reality where we're in a community,
we're in a society. Someone painting that they never ever
ever gossip. I think it's probably lying. But I'm saying
that this guy in a professional role going and putting
something an email, it's a pretty dumb ass move.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
So, especially since I seen some of those people were
as enemies, you know, like, it's not. It's not the
smartest political move. So that kind of falls maybe into
the way of thinking that perhaps he thought it was
something that he needed to as he claims that he
thought needed to be shared with people because people would

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know and there is mention of illicit drugs there.

Speaker 12 (30:07):
So even if, like everyone in the public public service
knows that if you put something in writing, someone can
get their hands on it at some point and it cooked,
so you just don't do it. Like it's a really
dumb thing to do. So a politically smarter thing to
do would have been to use his mouth rather than
in order to get it out in the right way.

(30:29):
But I know, I think it reflects really bound me
on him, not just in terms of his actions gossiping
and sharing that information. But it's not smart from the
political perspective either.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
So if you just called everyone at the water cooler
and said it's working with dog this morning, you wouldn't
believe what this guy told me, then then.

Speaker 12 (30:48):
He would.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, exactly, it wouldn't be a thing, right is. It
just never would have got to this level if it
just been water cooler talk. And perhaps the way he
articulated it to his fellow counselors in a verbatim sort
of way. I'm sure it never would have got to
this level. But the very fact you're right that he
wrote it down in an email and use some of
the descriptive words that he used is at best naive.

Speaker 13 (31:12):
Yeah, absolutely love it.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Thank you for your call, Matt Darling, Sweetie says this Texter.
Would you send an email to say Tyler or Marcus
had been up to something to Mike Costing? Just think
about that and then apply to your side of what
has gossip? Was a gang up? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Would?

Speaker 2 (31:32):
The emailing part of it is pretty weird. If I
heard something about you, Tyler, and then I emailed Mike Costing,
he'd reply who's Tyler for a start, and then you'd
go who are you?

Speaker 3 (31:41):
And then why are you telling me this information?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
What do I get? So I can categorically say I
would not send an email to Mike Costin about what
Marcus Lush has been up to you.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Great texts though, right, one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. Will take a few more
calls on this, It is forteen to two.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
I'm getting the feeling though, people kind of agree to
a certain extent that whilst it's not the greatest thing
that anyone's ever done, it's not all it's equally not
the biggest scandal and probably doesn't probably doesn't deserve the
juice it's getting.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yep, Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heathen Taylor Adams.
Afternoons news talks have be.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Very good afternoon give it is eleven to two and
we're talking about the Ray Chung situation that is unfolding
down and Wellington after an email he sent two years
ago was released in which he accused mere Tory Fano
of what he called an appropriate behavior or a behavior
that may be unfitting for the Meyer. She has denied
all allegations. But this conversation has sort of veered towards

(32:47):
gossiping in general. Do we gossip? Are you a gossiper?
Is it just a normal part of human nature?

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, that's that's what i'm That's what i'm That's my
angle that gossiping is something everyone does. So people are
getting outraged the point of going along and heckling the man.
Have they never gossiped in their life? Have they never
spilt the tea when they've heard it. Guarantee at one
point when in your life you've gossiped. I had an
exit used to complain to me because as much as
I've admitted to gossiping, she would she would find some

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information out and I would have known it for ages,
and she goes, why don't you tell me? And I
was like, I forgot She go, you are the worst
gossip So I was actually used to get in trouble
for not gossiping.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, that that hurts when you're not given enough to
Now here's a little bit of an interview that Ryan
Bridge did with Ray when the scandal first broke out.
You ever had any drugs or done on the orgy's? Ray? Never?

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Sadly?

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Would you like to have? Well, the opportunity has never
been there, so I've never been interested in taking drugs,
So you haven't taken of those. Okay, all right, Ray, Well,
good luck with your campaign. Yep, thank you, that's Raid showing,
that's Wellington Merril.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Hopefully you've got to say that's a good line of
questioning from Ryan Bridge. There have you ever taken any drugs?
Have you ever been in order to have done any
drugs or whatever. It was straight up question.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
So he said no and then sadly, but then he said,
never want to do drugs, but he was open to
the idea of an orgy if he got an invitation.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
I don't see where his eyes were looking, but there
was the vibe that he was, you know, wistfully looking off,
with regretting in his eyes that the opportunity had never
a reson itself for him.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
I haven't lived my life properly. Here is the number
to call.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Welcome to the show, Lisa.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Hey, Lisa, you want to talk about gossiping? Yes, yep,
And what do you reackon? Is it human nature? Do
we all love a gossip from time to time and
anyone who sees they don't as the liar.

Speaker 14 (34:43):
Yeah, it's a nature like us call like we learn
more like like I'm called judge, but I'm not perfect.
I'm still trying. Like gossiping is some people they're doing it,
but we changed when we goes and more like gossiping
is like like we talk about like jug like that,

(35:06):
you know, like that it's a seem you know, it's
a since I've gotten the Bible say like this, it's
a thing when you're thought that gossiping, and like, we
try not to just like me, I try to stop that.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Because it's yeah, thinking you bully. So we've got a
lot of noise in the background there. But yeah, the Bible,
I think sort of evil speak, doesn't it. It does,
so the Bible comes out strongly against gossiping. What's your
sort of thoughts on this?

Speaker 6 (35:31):
You know, everyone gossips. I mean, I think people are
lying if they're saying they have a gossip before. But
when you look at this whole Ray Hung f I
just like the amount of articles I've seen on it.
I mean, it just seems to me that, you know,
it's a left right leaning battle and the left are
just trying to smear Ray Hung, so that Andrew Little
becomes me. It that's how I see it.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Let's see you think it's orchestrated by his enemies.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
I honestly think that there's a lot of politics and
left and right leaning in the day. So I just
see it as a case said, oh, well, we go
rach Hung and smears can I mean, I'm not condoning
the email, Yeah, I just think it could have been
I don't think he should have done.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
The way should.

Speaker 6 (36:16):
But I just think when you look at it now,
I mean article, I think, but think.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, well that's that's That was my premise of this
whole thing. I was like, why do we even care?
It's not even that big a deal, but especially rich
when you have people going along to events and heckling
over it, it just seems like that is an extreme
reaction considering all the things that are happening in the
world right now. That that's the thing that gets you off.
This email, this gossipy email that was from two years ago,

(36:44):
is the thing that gets you out and about to
yell at people. It's that's that seems bizarre to me.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
It does.

Speaker 6 (36:52):
And when you look at Wellington and how the how
things have been then for the last three war years.
They need to help, they can get and it's just
like you don't need to and people want to turn
up to this this Lives and interview saying I mean,
you haven't got nothing.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
To do here, nice Joe, you reckon. No one's got
the fix on the situation exactly.

Speaker 15 (37:21):
Good aston as you say, you know, it's it's gone
overblown for no reason. The only reason I think is
politically motivated people don't want to see Ray and independent,
and people usually don't like independent because they've got their
own views and and kind of going against the established ways.

(37:47):
Somebody's has come up with that story. It might not
even be true. It's all I reckon, it's all made up,
and it got reported to the neighbor, and who knows
what the intrications between the you know what. In my opinion,
it could have never happened. It's just all made up

(38:08):
so to to get Ray out of the picture.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Do you think it was Do you think it was
a chance, Joe? Do you think he was a chance
to beat Andrew Little?

Speaker 11 (38:18):
Well?

Speaker 15 (38:18):
I think he could because people are fed up with
high rates, are set up with the way that the
city is run at present, and so h yeah, I
think he has a chance. But it's always very hard
for independent to uh do a campaign. I know, I've
worked on a campaign overseas.

Speaker 12 (38:37):
I know what it's like.

Speaker 15 (38:39):
So I think it's it's a big.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Would when you're working on campaigns, Joe, would you've run
this kind of thing? Would you would? Would you see
it as an effective if this is what's happened? So
you release the email to discredit someone because it's quite
a complicated situation, this one. It seems like there could
be a bit of sort of blowback or whatever. But
do do you think this is a this is uh?
If it is, do you think it's a it's a

(39:03):
clever campaign against against Ray?

Speaker 15 (39:07):
No, it's not. But it has to be proven and
that's where it should have. Some people should get onto
the facts and see it really is it? They're even
happen It looks like fiction to me.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, it reads like a classic gossip story.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
It certainly does.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
But I think I think after an hour of talking
about this, I think people just generally agree that it's
a bit weird. But it's not the biggest scandal in
the world. And let's do our bit for burying it
by stopping talking about it right now, shall we, tiler?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah, yeah, let's do that, And good luck in the
election rate in October right coming up after two o'clock,
the UK is about to give sixteen and seventeen year
old to the right to vote. Should we do the
same or in fact go the other way?

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:50):
I say twenty five twenty five years old should be
the voting age.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighties The number to call.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
It'd be.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Afternoon. Welcome back into the program. Just before we get
into this comment, I hear what you said about not
getting you a coffee last time, so I've made you
one freshly than you had a we sip. It's not bad,
not bad, not bad. Didn't cost me a dime.

Speaker 11 (40:22):
You go.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Could you were to kill you to get some cream
for that?

Speaker 3 (40:24):
That's a bit of Greggs in that. Yeah, do you
feel about that.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
I'm a big fan of Greggs. I just want to
know where the bloody cream is for.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
No cream, just green top milk heavy with that look,
I'd try and do something nice and there was no
cream in the office. We've run out of blue top milk.
There's not even know why we buy green top milk.
Nobody likes it.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
There's no doubt that it's the red ribbon roast. But
just a little bit of cream, be nice and then
thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
Tyler.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Hey, no problem, That's what I'm here for.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Let's put the filth of the last hour behind us
and move on to a very contentious issue out of
the United Kingdom.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Tyler, let's cleanse the plalet our palette. Yes, the UK
government will give sixteen and seventeen year olds the right
to vote and all in a major overhaul of its
voting system. So the move will align voting rights across
the UK, where younger voters have already participated in devolved
elections in Scotland and Wales. So here was the quote
from Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister in the UK. They're

(41:21):
old enough to go out to work, they're old enough
to pay taxes, and I think if you pay and
you should have the opportunity to say what you want
your money spent on which way the government should go.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
So there's been pushes in the past and there's definitely
political parties in this country that support moving the voting
age to sixteen. I reckon it should be twenty five.
I think far from moving it to sixteen, we should
move it up seven years to twenty five. I was
an absolute more on till I was twenty five, even

(41:53):
more so than I am now. You haven't lived at all.
When you're sixteen, you're either you're going to vote either
with what your parents think or what the school's told
you to think yeah, or more likely what's on TikTok?
You know, you haven't worked, you haven't been out there
to see the realities of life. Most sixteen year olds
against STI getting their dinner made for them. They're still

(42:14):
getting their laundry done by their parents. Most sixteen year olds.
We don't let kids drink at sixteen for a reason.
So if you are going to lower the voting age
to sixteen, you have to vote lower the drinking age
to sixteen, or it will lower itself to sixteen because
people will be chasing the sixteen and seventeen year old vote.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
They'll make it happen anyway. I mean, that is a bold,
bold move to raise it up to twenty five. You've
got some evidence there around the frontal cortex, which I
can understand. That's pretty late in life though a lot
of twenty five year olds, you know, they got families.
I got pretty well into their career by that stage.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah, that's a good time. So my other thing, the
prefrontal cortex, that is the brain region, as we all know,
responsible for complex cognitive functions like the planning and decision
making and impulse control that you need to make decisions
about the future of your country, things like planning decision making,

(43:07):
and it's not developed fully until you're twenty five. The
other will brain size might stop growing earlier, but the
prefrontal cortex continues to mature and refines its connections after
twenty five, So you get smarter after twenty five, but
up to twenty five you are not good at planning.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
No, do we raise a drinking age to twenty five
as well? Nah, give them a drink, No voting rights
until twenty five, Let.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Them join the army, let them get married, but they
can't vote to their twenty four.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten acy. Is it advisable
to raise a voting age to twenty five? Met does
have the science behind them. Here's why I actually agree
with Lauren it to sixteen for the local body elections.
We don't care about local body elections. Less than forty
percent of us could give us stuff. We don't even vote,
so councils are a dog's breakfast. We know that up
and down the country. What would be the harm in

(44:02):
giving sixteen year olds and seventeen year olds a shot
at having to say at the local body, I don't
care If they're numpties, I reckon these won't vote anyway.
So then you get the clever sixteen and seventeen year
olds and if people are so outraged by it, maybe
they'll vote finally.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Okay, Tyler, you look back when you were sixteen, I
was an idiot. Yeah, I'm still at it here. So
why does it matter? What do you want idiots voting
in local body over the national election? What difference does
it make?

Speaker 3 (44:26):
I think it's just a good test case first to
start with the local body. If that goes well and
everybody realizes that the country isn't going to implode. And
it actually worked quite successfully in Scotland and Wales. They
saw the eligible voters come back to the polling stations.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Okay, but if you lower the age of drinking, you'll
see more people in pubs. But is that what you
want to do? See just because numbers go up. If
it's numbers of people that shouldn't be voting, then that's
not a win.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yeah. Well, hey, HOSPO was in tough times at the moment,
why not why not let them vote and let them
have a cheeky drink down at the pub. But generally
I think If you start a lot younger, then they're
going to take more of an interest and get better
at determining information as they get into a state. As
you say, by twenty five, they'll absolutely be fantastic voters.
They'll know their civil rights and what being a good

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citizen is and get all the information about their fellow
counselors and who's standing, so they'll do it well.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
It's depending on timing of when they turned sixteen. They
could have made force three stupid votes by the time
this practice makes perfect, Fellas, I've got a sixteen and
a seventeen year old, I wouldn't even let them choose
the channel on the remote, never mind vote.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
It's a good text.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
I mean, you don't have kids, Tyler, No.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
But I was sixteen at one point, so I mean you.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Just need to look at a teenager boys bedroom and
you wouldn't want that person voting.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Right. The phones have led up oh eight, one hundred
and eighty ten eighty, So two things. Do you support
raising the voting age to twenty five? And how would
you feel about looking at the idea of giving sixteen
and seventeen year olds the right to vote? Get on
the phones that it's twelve past too.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
The Sticks says, this take it back to the good
old days when you had to own your own horse
before you're allowed to vote.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Before that, you're home of the noon Talk mad Heathen
Tyler Adams afternoons call, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
news Talk said be.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
It's a quarter past two. So at this early stage
of the discussion, I think you're getting quite a bit
of support for raising the voting age to twenty five.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Matt Graham says, no way he should sixteen to seventeen
year olds vote in local body elections. Easy answer. You
can't hold a mortgage until you're eighteen. So just as
there is no taxation without representation, there should be no
representation without taxation. They may pay rent, so pay rates indirectly,
but until they can actually own a house and have
to fund idiots like Ray Chung and Tory Funo in

(46:45):
no way.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Okay, very much for that text.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Yeah, there you go, Melanie, you're for it.

Speaker 16 (46:51):
I'm for it.

Speaker 17 (46:51):
I totally agree with Tyler. Sixteen and seventeen year olds
should be allowed to vote. I can't remember what the
percentages with our last election, but I know that the
under thirties were very weren't represented much at all. So,
like Tyler said, get the clever ones, the ones that
are really did do their research, don't definitely don't do
what their GenEx parents do. I'm a gen exit, but

(47:15):
I think I think people shouldn't be allowed to get
married until twenty five.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
That's my that's my little that's clever.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Well, but actually material all right, So you think that
they're not ready to get married, but they are ready
to vote on the issues of the day in an election.

Speaker 18 (47:34):
Yeah, when you look at.

Speaker 17 (47:36):
The psychology of it, there's not. Well, there may be
a few emotions, like about politics, but there's because of
the Internet too, you can do a heck of a
lot of research. You can go to talk. When I
was at Uni, I when and you know, all sorts
of people from different political parties were talking. And so
maybe because a lot of kids like I was young

(47:56):
for my class, so I didn't go straight to university,
but they would have been seventeen year olds at university.
And if you're at university, I reckon you are clever
enough to vote.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah, I don't know, I'm into university. What do you
think about?

Speaker 19 (48:12):
What do you think about years ago.

Speaker 8 (48:14):
What do you think.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
About sixteen year olds though, Melanie? And drinking? So if
they can vote, surely that you have to let them
them drink alcohol. They're definitely going to vote for that.
It'll probably the primary issue. I'm allowed to vote in elections,
but yet I cannot drink in pubs.

Speaker 17 (48:30):
Yeah, well, well kids like drinking at home anyway at
that age, so they can pash and there all sorts
of stuff like you know, yeah we did were Yeah, yeah,
kids are going to drink. Kids and fake IDs are
probably pretty still easy to get with all AI and
all of that sort of thing. Yeah, interesting topic, really good,

(48:51):
good topic, guys.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Yeah, got on you, Melanie, Thank you very much. Oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to
call if we.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Let news talk zb STA vote. We can't really say
that we're protected against idiots.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
That's fair enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fair enough. Can I
agree with that?

Speaker 2 (49:06):
And that's true. I mean there's definitely idiots of all age.
I mean there are sixteen and seventeen year old idiots
that that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Yeah, and I think.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
There are also sixty year old, fifty year old, forty
year old, and thirty year old idiots as well.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
One.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Yeah, and that's the frustrating thing about democracy, as so
often you see idiots being led by idiotic campaigns and
and and you know, you could argue that the discourse
has to be dumbed down, like politicians have to win
over morons to get in.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Explain to it like I'm five. That's the tenet of
a lot of politicians. Now, yeah, oh, one hundred and
eighty ten eightyc number. Of course you want to said
it takes nine two ninety two, Richard.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
You also want to lower the voting age to sixteen.

Speaker 8 (49:51):
Oh hello, Tyler, I haven't heard from you for a
long time.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Yeah, mates, you're well yeah good, yeah.

Speaker 8 (49:58):
Good thanks Tyler.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Yes, Tyler focus medie here as well, mate, one of
my chumb liver.

Speaker 8 (50:06):
Yeah yeah, we go back a long time. Yeah, I'm
very much for the sixteen seventeen year old. Yeah too, right,
I'm seventy two. And look, at the end of the day,
you allow people are suffering in their nineties from l ziers.

Speaker 20 (50:20):
They would even know what theme of the day it is,
and you let them both.

Speaker 8 (50:24):
Yeah, that's the fact, that's the fact that.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
You wouldn't controversially put for an upper you wouldn't controversially, Richard.
Nice to meet your Richard. I'm Matt by the way, but.

Speaker 8 (50:35):
Yes, I know Matt. Yeah, yeah, Richard, Sorry, you apologize.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
I've got a very friend. I've got a very fragile
eg ego. If I don't get acknowledged, then I get
upset and I take it out on Tyler.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Richard.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Would you controversially be suggesting an upper limit on voting?

Speaker 9 (50:51):
No?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Okay, oh, because you said it put it to another way. Why, well,
well you said that that you know, as people get
older than then sometimes they're losing their faculties. So you know,
we well could.

Speaker 8 (51:04):
You could say eighty year old have to take a
cognentve driving test for their mingle abilities. If they're going
to take that, they're voting.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
What about a cognitive test? What about a cognitive test?
What about a cognitive just a blanket cognitive test or
intelligence test across your entire life, not into that too.

Speaker 8 (51:23):
Far at the at the yeah, of course, look at
the end of the day, you've got people with all
sorts of addictions who don't know the day of the week.
Look of voting is a voting, It's not the end
of the world. You know, just because one tiny's in power,
there's not going to be there forever. Yes, these days,
the young teenagers, honestly, Matt Tyler, they've got access to

(51:45):
so much intelligence these days, mainly through the Internet. Of
course you'd be surprised. Well you're not surprised, cause you're not.
But the intelligence of sixteen and seventeen year old is
far behind our league.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
But I guess we should. I'd say that they are
online a lot, we know that, and that's causing all
kinds of problems. But they're easily lead. I mean, most
kids are getting their politics from techtok and anyone that
gets their politics from tech took, i'd question. I'd question
how what you can get from watching one minute videos
and so often people are sending around. I look at

(52:20):
my partner's phone and what she gets sent compared to
what I get sent. She's a bit younger than me,
not sixteen, she's voting age, but as a woman she
gets sent her algorithm is very, very politicized compared to mine.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Yeah, absolutely easily led, no doubt about that. But I
suppose the tenor of my argument here is, and no
doubt there are some dumb mass sixteen and seventeen year olds.
There's some dumbass people in the general population, but my
point is that local body elections people aboard, they don't care.
There's so much empathy it needs a jolt. Maybe I'm
advocating for a Burnett all down philosophy here, but there's
something needs to happen radically at that point to make

(53:02):
us give a damn because we don't give a damn.
You know, less than forty forty percent of us actually
vote on local body.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Do you think that sixteen and seventeen year olds will
give more of a damn than the people that don't
give a damn?

Speaker 6 (53:12):
Now?

Speaker 3 (53:12):
No, but people are so outraged by the idea of
a sixteen year old ben able to vote that they
will march down to the local voting office and actually
give a damn finally and make a vote for their
local body elections and care about the council.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
They'll see some tik tok adult idiot sixteen year old
heading towards the voting booth, and they'll go, we better
actually make an effort to offset these muppets exactly exactly.
I quite like that theory, Tyler. Thank you that's actually
pretty good for you. Thank you so much for you called.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Richard's Oh eight one hundred and eighteen eighty Z the number.
Call it's twenty three past two.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
The stexta says, look, I'm fifty five. I've never voted
in my life. Who bloody cares a lot of people
feel that way, all right, thanks for your text.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Paul, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call OH eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty on us talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Twenty five past two. Should we be looking at raising
the voting age or lawering it as they're doing in
the UK. It's going to be legal for sixteen and
seventeen year olds to vote next election. What do you say?

Speaker 2 (54:10):
The sixth says I was twenty with three children, couldn't
vote or go into a pub, but was responsible for
a milk run business, running a house, paying taxes and
a mortgage. Yes, give sixteen year olds to vote. When
was the voting age twenty?

Speaker 3 (54:22):
I thought it was twenty back in nineteen seventy four.
I believe they dropped it down to eighteen. Well, look
that are.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Not voting as a vote in itself. Imagine if everyone
didn't vote if they were just refused to vote. Hi, guys,
just tuned in. If you're advocating for sixteen year olds
to vote, you have rocks in your head. Assuming you don't,
thanks Stuart, never assuming we don't have rocks in our heads.
But yeah, Tyler is advocating for sixteen year olds to vote.

(54:51):
It's happening in the UK.

Speaker 21 (54:53):
Bruce your thoughts Yeah, Hi guys, Yeah, but he you
must realize also sixteen seventeen year olds given a vote,
you're talking about local body elections, they'd also have to
have the vote in the election that I would strongly
disagree with it. To be honest, most people sixteen seventeen

(55:18):
are still basically at school and they're being getting, you know,
getting a whole pile of left ring rubbish drown at them,
which verty every day. And the only reason that the
left are always looking seriously to drop the vote is
because they know that these kids would vote left because

(55:39):
it isn't until you get in your early twenties and
that sort of thing that you suddenly start to realize
what the real world is like. So that's my thoughts
on it, don't you.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Thank you, Bruce, And a lot of people would agree
with that, although it.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Is interesting that there's an information coming out of the
states in different Western countries that particularly young males are
tending right. And you know, and I absolutely I think
you're right, Bruce, that there are people on the left
that primarily are pushing towards this because they think they're
going to get those left leaning votes from the young people,
but might not play out that way, might not play

(56:15):
out the way. There's this whole new wave of conservative
young men especially, And you know, there's also the factor
that whilst some people might listen to their teachers, which
are in this country, I mean, I think, if I
would agree very left leaning in our schools are hugely
left leaning, a lot of people would primarily listen to

(56:40):
their parents.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Yeah, yeah, And I think you're right. I think a
lot of people would be surprised which way a lot
of sixteen and seventeen year olds might go. Wouldn't be
straight to the left is maybe it used to be
some time ago, but you're right, a lot of the One.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Of the most interesting things with the young people teenagers
and into the early twenties is the huge difference in
males and females. Males are going increasingly conservative, and females
are going increasingly to the left, and it's causing heats
of problems in the United States because they can't find
any common ground. And there's all these young ladies that
will not date the conservative boys. Yeah, because you know,

(57:16):
they're so indoctrinated by TikTok to think that they're being
conservative basically means that you're the devil.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Yeah. Yeah, very interesting.

Speaker 22 (57:22):
Right.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Oh and hundred and eighty teen eighty is the number to.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Call, Joey, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 23 (57:28):
Hi, how are you guys?

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Very good?

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Thank you better since you have called. What's your opinion
on that?

Speaker 18 (57:33):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (57:34):
Well, I just like this part was saying we're not American,
so I don't know if that's to happen in the States. Yeah,
but I want to be a little bit controversial. I
would like to see what I think it might be
a good idea for us to actually legalize sixteen year
old girls females. Why heny been number to.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Vote over males?

Speaker 23 (57:57):
Yep, and leave the males till they're eighteen, Well like
it is currently. Look, it will make a statement globally
about what we think about women. It will it will
encourage discussion with that age group.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
You don't think it would encourage resentment.

Speaker 23 (58:19):
No, because they're not voting anyway.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
But if you told a bunch of if you told
a bunch of sixteen year old boys that the girls
in your class can vote but you can't, you don't
think that they might think the world is stacked against
them even more than it currently is.

Speaker 23 (58:35):
No, I think it would motivate them to actually get
an understand politics.

Speaker 12 (58:40):
I've been controversial.

Speaker 23 (58:45):
I'm thinking outside the square. You know, obviously, we were
the first ones to give the woman the vote in
the world, and globally it's a problem that people don't vote,
and it's because younger generations aren't engaged. Sometimes you have
to do something, maybe a little bit controversial, to actually
get people to talk about it and realize the value
in voting.

Speaker 20 (59:05):
I'm just.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Do you think that what what? What do you think
that young women have that young men don't. That would
mean that young women should get the vote over young men.

Speaker 23 (59:17):
Okay, Well, you know, coming from my family, you've got
raised four boys and two girls, and that they're my
nephews and nieces. But I have had them in my
home and I've raised them and been very active in
their lives. And I can see that the girls would

(59:40):
give a lot more consideration and thought and it would
just cause family discussion about voting, right, And I think
that it would just bring the discussion of voting to
the forefront within the hubs of New Zealand, which were
our family unit.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Yeah. I mean, have you seen the stats though on
how twisted young ladies are getting by social media and
the terrible effect it's having on them, more so even
than in boys. If you read the likes of the
writing of Jonathan Height, So it seems that young girls
are getting young women are getting dragged down some pretty
terrifying rabbit holes online.

Speaker 9 (01:00:22):
Yep.

Speaker 23 (01:00:22):
But I would also say that there is an opportunity
for them to have a different discussion, for us to say, hey,
you know what, we think that you're smart enough to vote.
We think that you should have an opinion on this.
We think that you should think about your country. We
think we should think about the communities that you live in,
about where the direction of our country, where we're going.
We think that you're worth investing in. And this is

(01:00:45):
a statement that we're making to you as a woman
and did years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
We're doing it again, but wouldn't you be making the
exact opposite statement to the boys. You're saying, I don't
think that you should be involved in the country. I
don't think you should think about the issues, and you're
not really a part of this whole system.

Speaker 23 (01:01:04):
I I yeh, yeh no. And I totally hear that
that side of the argument as well. And that's why
what I'm saying is controversial because we're.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Good on joe Joey, good good on you being controversial.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
We love it because it sounds almost like, I mean,
you've got to step further than I have. But it
sounds like a similar tenant to your argument that by
doing that isn't be controversial. And we're upset a lot
of people and boys of that age, But that might
make them give a damn and actually take voting seriously.

Speaker 8 (01:01:35):
It might make them.

Speaker 23 (01:01:37):
It also might make them actually go, you know, well,
this isn't okay. We know what we're doing. We'll lobby
government ourselves and lobby our people so that we can
we can have the vote, and then of course voting
has the If you're upset about it, then rally for change.
We're a small country. You can get shit done.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Yeah, Yeah, that's right an anarchist, Joey, I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
There you go. I think it would motivate young men
to burn the whole system to the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
And also currently young men are having terrible outcomes in
school and are really struggling to get into employment. And
if you actually look at the stats, young men are
really struggling and young women are currently under the farm
of some pretty horrific targeting on social media.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
So, I don't know. I think making more reasons for
boys to be angry at girls and girls to be
angry at boys. I'm not sure, but I love joy
throwing it out there.

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Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Thank you very much, Raylene. So it's a great discussion,
wide ranging discussion about potentially lowering the age two sixteen
as they are going to do in the UK to vote.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
But Joy rang up and threw a dead cat on
the table. Did she said that young girls should have
their should be able to vote at sixteen, but boys
should remain till eighteen. My dead cat I was throwing
on the table is I think that no one should
be able to vote to their twenty five. But there
seems to be a lot of messandry in the world
at the moment. There's so many people that are texting

(01:04:26):
in that just saying that men are idiots and that
we should take rights off men. I think that's a
very risky way to look at the world because we're
in this together. We are two sides of a coin.
And you don't want a society worth a whole cohort
of young men that don't feel like they're part of society,
because those are those are the type of cohorts that
will burn society to the ground exactly. If you don't

(01:04:48):
involve them and respect them and give them opportunities to thrive,
then good luck for the future of your society. Hey, guys,
how you doing. I'm sixty year old male. I agree
with Joyce seeing sixteen year old females have more sense
than their counterparts. She's shamee. Yeah, I don't know. I've
seen some pretty crazy stuff from sixteen year old seventeen

(01:05:08):
year old females. Ah get a mark, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Mark.

Speaker 20 (01:05:15):
Yeah, get a.

Speaker 24 (01:05:16):
Boys getting on here. I just had to die for
the phone. I was just thinking, So these sixteen and
seventeen year olds, they want to be treated like adults,
right when?

Speaker 11 (01:05:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (01:05:29):
Yeah, So what happens Are they going to get treated
like adults when they go up against the justice system
and get adult adult sentences and see that the slap
on the wrist they get now is sixteen and seventeen
year olds.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
It would have to all come out. It would have
to come in with that.

Speaker 20 (01:05:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:05:48):
So if they couldn't have the old enough and smart
enough to an intelligent enough to vote, then obviously they
should be able to I don't know what's the kind
of thing of a bloody word here. They should be.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Adult lawys should apply to them as well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Yeah, in which case would you say that? Would you?
In which case would you say that they have to
be able to drink and join the armed services all
those kinds of things. You're allowed to go to the
pub at sixteen.

Speaker 6 (01:06:19):
Well, if that's what they want.

Speaker 24 (01:06:20):
If that's what they want, they get the whole hog
way through to getting sentenced like like adults and on.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
That would mean something that you'd agree with it if
we go the full vote.

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
Now I'm with.

Speaker 24 (01:06:34):
Matt Frecking, keep them away as long as probable.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
There it is good on your Mark, thanks for your call.
Thanks for your call, Mark, Richie, your thoughts, Ah.

Speaker 11 (01:06:46):
The last one I kind of said. What I want
to bring up is well, what age does the courts
classic could as an adult?

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Yeah, and in the UK do you know, Tyler in
the UK, whether they change that or people as a situation,
they can vote, but they're still being treated as children
and children in the eyes of the law.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
It's a fair question. They can join the army at
sixteen in the UK, they have to be eighteen here,
but in terms of how they treat a sixteen and
seventeen year old when they are when they commit an offense,
I believe, and again we'll look this up, but I
believe it's a similar system to us that there are
more minor sentences and punishments if you commit crimes at

(01:07:26):
that age.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Yeah, I would say, I would say if you I
totally agree, Richie. I would think if you lie the
voting age to sixteen, then you're saying okay, as a society,
we think that you're a full member of society. Let's go,
you know, and that means if you commit a crime,
then there's no there's no getting out of it because
you're too juvenile and you're not fully your brain's not
fully formed enough to make the right decisions. Well, then

(01:07:49):
your brain's not fully formed enough to vote.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
But I wouldn't have a problem with that, Richie, in
all honesty, If we consider that it's a fair justice
system for an adult that commits a crime, I think
it makes sense that it'll be a fair justice system
for a sixteen or a seventeen year old that commits
a similar offense.

Speaker 11 (01:08:07):
Also, I can't agree with the other lady. But if
we've got these young kids s having babies, you know,
that's quite a thing to bring up a baby in
this world, shouldn't they have a right to vote?

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Well, yeah, that's what you know, because they've got skin
in the game now, because they've got they've got children
in this world. It's yeah, yeah, Well that's an interesting one,
isn't it. The amount of responsibility you get lumped on
you because a lot of people are texting through. If
you're not paying tax, you shouldn't vote. So if you're
sixteen and you're still living at home. And it is interesting,
isn't it, because the government recently is looking into when

(01:08:45):
you can get the benefit. Yeah, and they've raised that
age if you're living at home. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
So that's a difficult one though, isn't it, because then
effectively saying that if you don't have a job, then
you're not going to vote. Not just sixteen and seventeen
year olds. It's across the board, really, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
The whole thing with children though, is we've got this
horrific population collapse problem at the moment. Yeah, so you
don't want to you don't want to stop people from
having kids when they're young.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Yeah. Yeah, arguably sixteen and seventeen year olds have babies.
We need them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Well maybe that's a little early twenties, and twenty one
is a good age to.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Have a baby. That is a good age. Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Will play some messages and come back. We got plenty
of calls. But if you can't get through, keep trying.
And if you want to tax nine to nine to two, the.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and everything
in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
It'd be very good. Afternoons you're having a great discussion
about the voting age. So in the UK they are
going to make it legal for sixteen and seventeen year
olds to vote in the next election.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
This this weird cat. I don't know. I guess it's
complexity here. So people are saying if there's sixteen and
they have children, they should be able to vote because
they've got skin in the game because of the world.
You know, a lot of people say that the way
people view the world is quite strange now because it
changes massively when you have kids. In fact, they tracking

(01:10:08):
conservative views in life, and people tending towards being conservative
doesn't track with age at tracks with having kids, right,
because people want to protect the world to make it
safe for their kids or whatever. But it's an odd
idea that you say, if you're sixteen, it proves that
you're responsible, so you could have you could vote, and
when you're sixteen it's like I think generally you think
if you have it, if you're pregnant at sixteen, you

(01:10:29):
might have made some interesting choices.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Yeah, there was at some point that might have not
been quite as clever as you thought.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
It was sort of goes both ways. Gary, Welcome to
the show.

Speaker 25 (01:10:40):
How are you very good things? Gary's good, guys. I
think I'm just blowing your talk out of the windows.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Okay.

Speaker 25 (01:10:51):
I was when I was a young fella. I was
minding my own business at work, YadA YadA ya. Right, yep,
nineteen right, and I hadn't had any children or anything,
and the wall was still down. Now do you know
the war that I'm trn about, Vietnam? Hello, my boss
called me up. I said, I'll go and meet a mire.

(01:11:14):
So this was the Hamilton post Office. You go off
into the doors when that was still going and you
went over to the right, and I signed in for
that war. Now, this is how it went for me.
I was nineteen in that state, no children in the light,
YadA YadA yah. Yeah, and the rest is history. I

(01:11:34):
won't go under the rest of us.

Speaker 24 (01:11:36):
See.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
So, Gary, are you saying, if you're young enough to
sign up to the military, you should get sign up, right?

Speaker 25 (01:11:43):
Yeah? What actually happened is all my family at war
veterans and my birthday come out my birthday and YadA yah,
the other pulled me in and that war was still
going when I signed to go to a war, to
that war, right, and I was only nineteen, No children, nothing.

(01:12:03):
So what I'm trying to point out here is you
go back to these young bills. Did have had babies
at sixteen, seventeen or eighting? Whatever? Yeah, yep, that was
a shot to me. It was a real shot, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
I bet it was gearing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Yeah, thank you for your call. So I'm a little
bit confused though. So we didn't have conscription for Vietnam
War in New Zealand, though, Garrett did we We didn't
have conscription for Vietnam War in New Zealand, though, did we?

Speaker 8 (01:12:34):
Oh?

Speaker 25 (01:12:35):
They hauled me into it?

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Oh right, your parents forced you to do it?

Speaker 25 (01:12:39):
No, no, won did the army called me up?

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
Okay, thank you for your call. Oh, one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number call. We're getting plenty
of tacks on nine two ninety two as well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
In no way should I pimply ask teenager have the
same voting rights as me, that's dean.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Yeah, yeah, that is what a lot of people are saying,
not in those words. That's very nicely put Dean.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Hi, guys, there are that many sixteen year old girls
and boys that don't even know what they want to
do for a job, let alone get their heads out
of social media and ridiculous influencers out there, including encouraging
people to identify as cats, et cetera. It's a very
dangerous pass to start allowing juveniles to have any form
of control or influence on the government how the government
runs a country. Yeah, well, I mean I think that

(01:13:26):
I think you shouldn't be able to vote till your
twenty five because your prefrontal cortexs hasn't fully developed yet,
so you can't you know, your ability to plan. You know,
that's why insurance is interesting for people under twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
So you're for insurance. You've got the scientific backing for
your argument. I mean, my argument is pretty tenuous, to
be honest, but it is about trying to get more
people down to the voting bowl for the local body elections.
And if people are so outraged by sixteen and seventeen
year old's being able to vote, that will get them
off the couchs, off their bum and down and actually vote.
Because only forty of us percent forty percent of us

(01:14:02):
give a damn about local body.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Well, how many sixteen and seventeen year olds are they're
in New Zealand. There's probably one hundred thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Roughly between or they say one percent and five percent
of the population would be in that age bracket.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Right, Okay, so what between one percent and five percent?
That's a huge difference.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
Yeah, so sixteen and seventeen year olds make up between
one point five and less than five percent of the
population in constituencies in New Zealand, the UK, Australia and
the US.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Well, hang on a minute, this is what we've got
rid of the consensus, I mean, not the consensus, the
census be between one point five and five.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Percent is huge difference there is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
I'm pretty sure it's not five percent of the population
that are between sixteen and seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
We'll get an exact number on that. But whether it's
enough to actually change the outcome that much, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
I just don't think people would vote as you know.
I know that the left push is hard for this
because they think they're all going to vote for them.
But you know, I talk to a lot of young people,
you know, and I think they might be more conservative
than you think they are.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Yeah, it is nine to three back with more of
your call shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
The issues that affect you. It's a bit of fun
along the way. Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons News talks.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
EDB News talk Ed B. We have been talking about
lowering the voting age to sixteen, as they're going to
do in the UK.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Yeah, and we're just trying to work out the numbers.
It's interesting how they do the statistics on the ages
of people and they only divide it up in the
census between fifteen and nineteen years, so it says there's
three hundred and forty four thousand between fifteen and nineteen.
So I'm just going to do the math on that
and say that we're talking about adding three hundred and
maybe one hundred and thirty odd thousand, Roughly one hundred

(01:15:41):
and thirty might be less, maybe more. Have to do
a math on it, but let's say it's between one
hundred and twenty and one hundred and forty thousand, just
to be really vague, that you'd be adding to the
voting pool if you brought in what they've brought in
the UK into New Zealand and allow sixteen and seventeen
year olds to vote.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
So the percentage of that in terms of eligible voters,
what difference that would make. So there's about four million
eligible voters, so a quick calculation in here in the
percentage calculator machine would be three point twenty five percent.
I mean that could make a difference.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Oh, it definitely would. But as the text of Steve says,
I don't think the kids would give a hoot and
the majority of them would not vote. Hence their involvement
will be less impacting than people. So you could say,
right now, I would be well, much less than fifty
percent of those sixteen and seven year olds that would
bother getting off techtok long enough to vote. Yeah, I
mean that they're much more likely to post an angry

(01:16:34):
social media post and think that their job's done then
actually go to a polling booth.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Yeah, very true, right, Graham, you reckon. There's another conversation
to be had before giving sixteen year olds to vote.

Speaker 22 (01:16:48):
Yeah, hey, guys, that's going good. Yeah, a couple of thoughts.
I think before you start discussing whether sixteen or seventeen
year olds should be given the vote, we should be
discussing whether or not civics should be a compulsory course
in high school. I mean, you ask your average teenager
what MMP stands for. I doubt they could tell you.

(01:17:10):
I mean, my kids are reasonably intelligent, and they asked me,
did I vote for Christopher Luxean in the last election
or did I vote for Chris Hipkins kind had explains
to them that you actually vote for the prime minister
unless they he or she is standing. There's an electric
MP and your electorate. You vote for a party and
then you vote for the local MP. And similarly with

(01:17:31):
local body elections, you have a board for your local area,
then you have silos, and then you have a mayor.
And I just seriously doubt they understand how any of
that works. So I think there's a bit of education
to go a long way. You always start throwing them
the boat. Yeah, another point I would.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Like to make talk about whether or not Graham, are
you cycling up ahead or something?

Speaker 6 (01:17:59):
No, No, just just walking.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Just quickly because we've got to let you go in
about fifteen seconds.

Speaker 22 (01:18:06):
Yeah, a very quick point.

Speaker 26 (01:18:08):
You talk about whether they're not giving sixty or seventeen
year olds to vote. The biggest cohort that I can
figure out between eighteen and twenty five year olds that
turned out for an election was twenty twenty and it
was seventy eight percent. And that year the referendum for
marijuana was held.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Yeah, to get things for the end to care about. Yeah,
good on your Graham, Thank you very much. Great discussion
news coming up next.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
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Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
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Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Welcome back. It is seven pass three, the hour of
power on a Friday afternoon. Great heavy companies always.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Yeah, thanks for tuning in. We're going to put that voting.
Lowering the voting age to sixteen and seventeen like they
have in the UK, will put that topic to bed.
Whilst the majority of texts and calls were against it,
you've got to say that there was a surprising amount
of support for it. Certainly wasn't and also quite a
lot of anti mail rhetoric coming through. There was and
a lot of a woman saying that they didn't think
young med should be out to vote.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Yeah, it's controversial.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Sexism is alive and well in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
It certainly is. Yes, Now, before we get to the
next topic, there was something that you saw last night, Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Yeah, And once you hear it, you can't unhear it.
If you've looked at those old three D posters and
you'd look at them and you couldn't see the image,
and then suddenly it would come into full stark reality,
and that's the only way you could see it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Going for magic Eye, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
So this is the song that I've heard for a
very long time. It was released in nineteen ninety one
ram Losing My Religion and anyway, So Michael Stipe, who's

(01:19:56):
the singer yep, okay, Now listen to this and picture
that it's Donald Trump singing.

Speaker 13 (01:20:02):
Stigger you you on me?

Speaker 8 (01:20:08):
Sad will go you oh my.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Once you start hearing it as Donald Trump, it's very
hard to stop hearing it that way.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Can we turn it up a little bit more?

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Andrew I said it up. Some people will be hearing it.
They won't be able to hear hear Donald Trump sing it.
But once you hear it, it's hard to hear it
any other way.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
I'll never be able to listen to their song the
same again that it's so act.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
I'm sure Michael Stipe's not very happy about that because
that's this spread through the internet. Now, Yeah, there's more
and more people that will only hear RAM songs being
sung by Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
That is so good man, That's why I love the Internet.
That sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Sad that anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
Anyway, anyway, Donald Trump singing ra em love it right,
coming up very shortly. This is something that we've promoted
for the last couple of days, but we've been impacked
with the other topics. But we're going to get to
it very shortly. So fish and.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Idiocy, Yeah, absolutely, And so it's on the back of
these type pants tiler.

Speaker 5 (01:21:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
So this was a singer and actress, Suki Waterhouse. She's
been off X for a long time and her followers
are a bit concerned about where she was and why
she wasn't on X. And then she came back and
here was the tweet she said, Suki, you never tweet anymore.
Have you considered I wore pants so tight six months
ago it caused to hernia and I've been too scared

(01:21:39):
to tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Yeah, so what an own goal? Wearing pants so tight
that you get a hernia? Yeah, you don't need to
wear pants that tight? What is wrong with humans? That
we do things like this and injure ourselves or even
wear clothes. Surely clothes we started wearing them to fight

(01:22:02):
against the elements, right, Yeah, so clothes should be practical.
You want them to look good, but first of all,
they need to be practic. But all of us do
stupid fashion victim things like high heels, for example, massive,
I want to know this hour, what's the rationale for
high heels? Why would you wear something that's so painful

(01:22:22):
on your feet? Whenever you come home and you've been
out with your partner and she's worn high heels, she
just can't wait to take them off. Sometimes if the
enough drinks have been drunk, then they'll then they'll they'll
leave their bar carrying their shoes. But that's just one
of many things that we do as human beings that
cause us damage. So that's what we want to talk about.

(01:22:42):
I mean, you could argue tattoos are insane.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
Definitely, piercings pso that's done for fashion, and that causes
a lot of pain. Tight skinny jeans I mentioned before
and you didn't quite agree with me. But whife ron underwear,
why any men man would wear wife front underwear? I've
got no idea seven boxes where a god awful setn boxes.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Oh yeah, that would write your deafie duck satin bosses
that would ride up the back of your shorts. Yeah,
I mean I can talk to you about why people
wear wife fronts. It's a throwback to there were long
John's and there was only one way to get things out.
They used to have a flap at the back.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
As well, so convenience yeah yeah, yeah, super uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
So anyway, I one hundred and eighty ten eighty nine
two niney two. We want to talk about the fashion victim,
things that you see out there in the community, or
that you have worn in the past or still war
we're now in twenty twenty five, yep, and high heels
in particular, ladies, why do you do it?

Speaker 12 (01:23:32):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
Eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call right now. It is eleven past.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Three Every Friday on Matt and Tyler afternoons on z
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(01:23:58):
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Department conservation ranger Ian Graham confirmed to find this week.
But it wasn't Graham that spotted the little spotted Kiwi.
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What a good boy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
Brew for sniffing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Out but not munching on, the succulent, delicious little Kiwi bird.
You are nominated for New Zealand of the Week, Alessa.
Dog like my dog Colin, for example, would have gobbled
that little punisher up toots weed.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Yeah, but not you Brew. Good boy, good boy, good boy, brute.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
And You've been nominated for New Zealand of the Week.

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What a Good Boy.

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saying stepping back from social media has created a space
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(01:24:57):
Brave for quitting on the sosh med and encouraging others
to jump off the digital brain right too.

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(01:25:27):
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(01:25:50):
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are the Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealanders of the Week.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
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Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
It's the only consecutive father and son holand one on
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Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
Ever, so gentleman taste a kiweed legend.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Smashed a lot of together by load of sound good work.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Afternoon seventeen past three. So let's talk about fashion idiocy.
Singer and actress Suki Waterhouse. She suffered hernia because her
pants were too tight. So that's what we want to
have a chat about the things that we wear that
actually cause us pain or make absolutely no sense. I
eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty as the number
to call.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Someone's pushing back on the whole idea that there are
that these are fashion victim things. I was saying before
that it's crazy to risk injuring yourself just for the
way you look. But someone says, we're animals. We have
to stand out from the rest, just like a male
bird showing off its pretty colors to the females. So
we're all peacocks, aren't.

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of truth to that. This
one says, guys are men must decide on Yeah, maybe
I won't. I'll leave that one out for there.

Speaker 27 (01:27:17):
I was waiting to hear what there was.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
I censor it so and then I'll come back. I've
just got to I'm just going to change some of
the words they used.

Speaker 27 (01:27:27):
But look, I'm willing to Miss seventies now and I'm
still wearing seven and six inch heels have done for
many years. And what has done for me, I call
it fash and sensibility. All my leg muscles are very
well tied. There's no slip on the legs and when

(01:27:48):
you walk on them, you've got to use your hips
to walk, you see, And that's the key to it.
And I love Miss seven and heels.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
So is that why you wear them as as a
fitness device?

Speaker 27 (01:28:01):
Absolutely?

Speaker 21 (01:28:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 27 (01:28:04):
I still have the same figure I head years and
years ago. But it's the way you probably walk on
them because you have to. Well, I do can only
talk for me. I use my hips to walk, and
my leg muscles are firm ass and it's been really
good for me. And if I wear flip shoes or

(01:28:26):
whatever or gum boots at home doing the garden, I
feel like I'm walking down hell. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
So when you're at your seven inch heels, do they
have like a block a block around the toe or.

Speaker 27 (01:28:39):
They're quite eloquant looking, But they're not. My foot's not
really pointed down to the ground and up. It's not
a stiletto. It's kind of those semi platforms. But I'm
still wearing shoes I had in the seventies as well.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Wow, And what about do you worry that you won't
be able to if there's I don't know, an earthquake, volcano,
or some kind of emergency that you're that you're quick
enough to get away and save yourself on these seven
inch heels.

Speaker 27 (01:29:12):
So I can run well in the Maine. Really, you,
My legs are really strong because I've got good muscles.
All my friends that are much younger than me, their
legs are all flairby.

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
Do you you just say, do you get comments about
your calf muscles?

Speaker 5 (01:29:29):
Suit?

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
Do people say, well, so you've got some good caffees.

Speaker 27 (01:29:33):
Argue a lot of compliments. And also we're always gone,
not cutting the circulation, but I always scun skun tight
pants like tights, set and tights and all that sort
of thing. I still think I'm thirty one mate.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Wow, But at the end of the night, Sue, when
you come home, does it feel good? Because you know,
there's that that cliche and we've all seen it. Just
get home, Thank god. I can take these heels off
right now.

Speaker 27 (01:30:05):
None of it no feel good and it makes me
feel good. And okay, some people look at me sideways,
but that's all right. I'll discovered them a lovely smile.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
Well, good on you, Good on you, Good on you.
It seems like it's working for you. Yeah, you can,
you can, you can operate them at pace there, they're
working good for you, for your legs. So for bless you.
I'm going to say, you're not a fashion victim.

Speaker 27 (01:30:32):
Oh no fashion, I'm a benefactor from other.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Yeah, good on, a fashion benefactor.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
Oh on one hundred and eighty ten eighty. I look
so sold that well, but I still don't get them.
High heels to me make absolutely no sense. And as
you mentioned it before, my partner's the same. She just
complained so much every time she gets home from work
and whips off the high heels, and it just seems
like a bygone era. I mean, what does it really do?
Like I'm saying, this is a fella. When I look
at women with high heels, I can't understand what is

(01:31:01):
the reason. I imagine part of it is to be
a bit taller for that social status element. Clearly there's
something there in history that they are show associated with
wealth and status in society. But I just don't see it.
It just to me, it just causes woman pain.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
Yeah. Well, and it's not just women that are doing
crazy fashion fashion victim things. Wearing heels. I mean, what
about wearing your pants halfway down your ass?

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
Yeah? I mean that still happens.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
You know, that doesn't make you very capable of running
away from lava either.

Speaker 3 (01:31:33):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
No, And you've got to question piercings, tattoos, all these
things that we do. We're odd creatures, aren't we.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
This one doesn't cause any pain. But I don't understand
the male tie. Why do we think that that looks good?

Speaker 22 (01:31:48):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
You know, Look, I get people think that you wear
the suit and the tie and you got your nice
belt on, and all of a sudden you look tidy
and presentable. To me, it just looks strange. The old tie.
I don't understand why we think that that is somehow
more presentable when you've just got this piece of fabric
going down your waistline.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
It just works. Man, People look better in a tie.
I look as like a completely different person when I've
got a tie on. So I'm just here. I'm dressed
casually because I'm on the radio. There's no cameras go
from my life. But if I'm doing, you know, going
to anything formal, if I'm seeing something, then I'll then
I'll put a tie on, and it just you look
in the mirror and you just go, I am I

(01:32:25):
am presenting as someone that gives a crap about this event,
and wearing a tie doesn't prevent me from running away
from an earthquake or larva.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
No, it's not constricting to me. It's just weird burn
the ties.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
But what do you I'm going to get a hernia
like this woman did from your tight pants from a tie.
God smacked at the height of Cape Middleton stilettos at Wimbledon,
says Juliet. Very fat, dim and Levi's in the nineteen eighties.
We had to lie on the floor to do them up,
so uncomfortable, Juliet. Yeah, And because is there anyone out
there that's still having to put their pants on in

(01:32:59):
a hot bath because they're so tight, wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
There's a lot of spandex around?

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
Am I just thinking about a movie? Was that in Greece?

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighties called twenty four
past three.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on news Talk ZEDB.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
Very good afternoons. You we're talking about fashion. It is
eddioc Suki Waterhouse, well known singer and extra. She wore
pants so tied it gabra hernia and she was off
social media for a long time until she fronted up
to that fact because it was so embarrassing. But keen
to hear from you about the fashion crimes that you've
committed in the past. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
This piston Tammy says a few years ago, my friend
studying nursing said there was research going into high hills
pivoting the pelvis resulting in low pregnancies rates. Not sure
what the results of that study was.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
And girl says, a tie points to the male genitalia.
Apparently it's like an arrow. Yeah, La, thanks to that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
Yeah, because when I'm walking around, I'm always saying to woman,
eyes up here. My eyes are up here because they're
following my tire, they're following my tie down. Hey, what's
up with older men fifty ish plus who wear their
caps back to front? You look stupid? That's from gin.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
Yeah, I agree with that. I mean the old cat backwards.
If you're over the age of twenty five, then you
look like an idiot.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
I still have my emsy hammer pants and I still
wear them, much to my daughter's horror, says Mars. Yeah,
I mean the hammer pants. How long did they last?
But they were also called poo catches? Wouldn't they pooh catches?
I think, Yeah, the women still wear poo catches pants.

(01:34:46):
I know they don't like to call them that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
It's a great name for them, poo catchers. Guys, wife fronts,
when worn over your jeans, gives you superpowers. And women
wear stilettos to show off their firm, smooth, delicious carves
to pervs like you two and me? Chairs Warsele?

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
Is that why women that wear high heels?

Speaker 6 (01:35:07):
Can you?

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Can you tell us so much? Hundred eighty and eighty?

Speaker 5 (01:35:09):
You do?

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
What? What would he say?

Speaker 15 (01:35:11):
So?

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
He says, women wear stilettos to show off their firm, smooth,
delicious calves.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
Right do they?

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
Apparently right?

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
They don't just wear them because they think they make
themselves feel special and good and comfortable.

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
I just thought it was a hype thing, this text
that says.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
I don't even know why you men would talk about this.
If it feels comfortable, comfortable, then we're what you want. Yeah,
But that's the point. We're saying the exact opposite. If
it would make sense that people would just wear stuff
that was comfortable and practical. But I'm saying that wearing
pants so tight you get a hernia as an own goal,
and also wearing high heels is unnecessary because as I

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mean Sue ring up before when she said she finds
wearing seven and entire hills very comfortable. Yeah, I think
that would be a rare person, wouldn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
I think they. I mean tottering around on those things.
I mean, how do you run away an emergency? What
if there's a fire?

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
Yeah? Or lava? As you say, dare how are you mate?

Speaker 11 (01:36:09):
Good man?

Speaker 28 (01:36:10):
Yourself?

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
Good? Good? So you want to talk about fashion crimes
that west Auckland has commit.

Speaker 20 (01:36:15):
Oh, there's the old where the pajamas to the supermarke.

Speaker 3 (01:36:20):
Oh yes, yeah, that's a biggner.

Speaker 20 (01:36:22):
That is a bigg It's always always a good one,
you know, when they're fully activated to go to the supermarket.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
Yeah, yeah, I've seen that a lot actually where I
am old name and shame actually Mount Wellington Countdown. It's
notorious for people coming in there and there in their pjs,
and even we shop around.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
That's interesting because you've bothered to have pjs, because if
you're super lazy, you wouldn't even have pjs. You just
sleep in your undies.

Speaker 20 (01:36:44):
Yeah, you've got going your boxes.

Speaker 2 (01:36:45):
Yeah, you're going your boxes, but you've got pj's, so
you already get it's quite nerdy to wear pjs. Yeah,
and then you and then you're making the decision to
wear them down to the supermarket. It's a weird.

Speaker 20 (01:36:55):
Statement sometimes even just down to the deery, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's better than just walking down
in your boxes, I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
Yeah that might be a step too far. But the
slippers and then the dressing gown as well, I don't
understand it. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
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Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
Thank you very much, Raylan. We're talking about fashion idiosc.
This is after Suki Waterhouse, well known singer and actress.
She was off twitter x for a long time. She
came back and she said, and I quote, here was
the tweet. Suki, you never tweet anymore. Have you considered
I warp pants so tight six months ago it caused
to hernia and I've been too scared to tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
Mapay own own goal. Have you ever been involved in
a fashion victim hood that's actually injured yourself? We'd love
to hear from you. Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
There's a lot of talk about high heels and ties.
The stick says, well off a tie points to a genitalia.
That's what you were saying that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:10):
One of the teachers said that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
The idea is that the reason why you were a
tie is that it's a little pointed down to your.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
Downstairs accentuates the.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
Then why does say Donald Trump? What does it say
about Donald Trump? He wears his tie so long, way
past his supposed location of his genitalia. Maybe he his
downstairs is like those breasts in the letter, justredulous, just wondering.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
Well, that's a fair point. I'm going to have to
go see how long Donald Trump's tie is now.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
He does wear a very long tieh I mean that's
one of the hardest things when you're going out and
you have to wear a tires getting the length exactly right.

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
Yeah, the amounts of times I've got to retie that
bloody tie.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
So I make mine so so the tip is just
about touching my belt.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
Right, I think that's key, that's what you say.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
Yeah, so, man, just above, But I don't feel like
I'm using it as an arrow.

Speaker 3 (01:40:03):
Subconscious a subconscious Well.

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
Yeah, well people are saying that a lot of people
are tixting in the subc just nature of wearing heels.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
Yeah, well this ticks of sears. Guys. The way heels
make you stand is supposed to emphasize the chest and
butt area. It also falls forces better posture, though let's
be honest, it's not actually better in terms of keeping
your body healthy. Most men don't realize that's what's different.
They just know that she looks better on heels.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
Right, But I don't know, like say my partner when
she puts heels on, I don't think you look better.

Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
Doesn't emphasize the chest and the butt area.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
Not that I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
Subconsciously maybe, but I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
She's standing there and then she puts on heels and go, boy,
you look so much better with you you've got heels on.
I just think, well, what a volcano erupts and we
have to run away from the lava. Hello Mike, your thoughts?

Speaker 19 (01:40:55):
Oh hello, how are you?

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
Very good? Thank you?

Speaker 19 (01:40:59):
All right now, fashion crimes, think about pack and save
road to ruer.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
Okay, okay, tell us more.

Speaker 19 (01:41:09):
A bit as a serial town. People going in there
and near onesies in their red beans.

Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
Yeah, that's a bold choice. Onesie and gummies as well.

Speaker 20 (01:41:26):
It's like I.

Speaker 22 (01:41:28):
Saw that w t S.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
I mean, the onesie around the house is a is
a great thing in winter, but.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
Keep it at home.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
I don't know about a onesie the supermarket.

Speaker 19 (01:41:43):
Yeah, I don't know if if you're not wearing red
beans and in the supermarket you feel a little bitty
out of place.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
Yeah, we're in your gummies out. I mean, what what
what's worse the red bands or or the white gummies?

Speaker 19 (01:42:00):
Ah, the white gummies.

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the white gummies is te You know,
there's there's a telltale sign that you know, we know,
we know they.

Speaker 19 (01:42:08):
Come clearingly obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
Yeah. It reminds me of it was that old site
people of Walmart. I think it's still going, but they
would post pictures of people shopping and Walmart in America
wherein all sorts of outrageous things. And I think the
supermarket is kind of that place in society where for
some people anything goes because it's not you don't have
to be fancy to be in a supermarket, but you've

(01:42:31):
got to be a level of presentability.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
Well who are you dressing up for at the supermarket?
I mean, you know, I might go, well that that's
pretty slack. You've turned up in your pj's to the supermarket,
But I don't really care. Yeah, I mean, it's not
a it's not like you're trying to get a loan
off me or something. Yeah, you know, it's not like
I'm paying you money. It's not like it's a job application.
You're just heading down to get I don't know, some

(01:42:54):
milk and some eggs or something.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
I'll be okay with the dairy and I'll tell you
why because you can nip in and out in the
dairy and nobody sees you. But in the supermarket you've
got to walk a lot further. You've got to go
up and down the aisles. There's more risk of someone
you might know seeing you. And you're dressing gown and
your pj's and your wee slippers, and you think, oh Jesus,
I knew Tyler was was an idiot, but look at that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
But what about is it more? Is it worse and
more crazy? If you're just going down to the supermarket
and you go for a full look So you're just
been down the supermarket back and you go, I need
to be fully dressed up to the nines, so you
full makeup and heels to go to the supermarket.

Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
Yeah, that is crazy. That's far crazier than the old pj's.
But what do you say I want one hundred and
eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
This Texas Craig says Trump wears a tie longer to
make him self look slimmer, I read it in an
article recently. Does does that work? Does wearing a longer
time make you slimmer? I guess a lot of what
people wear fashion wise is to make themself look slimmer.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
Yeah, you know the old spandex.

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
But does wearing incredibly tight pants that give you a
hernia make you look thinner? I think that's a misnomer
that wearing tight clothes makes you look thinner.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
I think sometimes baggy clothes because because you might be
thinner under the clothes.

Speaker 3 (01:44:03):
Yeah, comfort always. I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. It is twenty one to four.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heathen Tyler Adams. Afternoons
News Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
Envy, very good afternoon to you were talking about fashion
idiocy and fashion disasters, good techs. Here about high heels,
says O Kiday. Guys, I am shorten kurvy. High heels
make me look taller and more proportional. I also wear
skirts and dresses every day, and they usually look better
with heels. I have great legs and they look their
best in heels. I feel confident walking in them and
definitely have more of a presence. Also, high heels are

(01:44:38):
just gorgeous on their own. I have dozens of beers
and love picking the ones to go with my outfit
each day. Mary Jane's tea straps. Do you all say
pumps Oxford heels? Oh my gosh, they're also good.

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
Oh wow. I like a Spanish heel on a pair
of boots.

Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
Spanish heel.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
Yeah, guys, I went to the corner stores in the
UK with no shoes on. People thought I was homeless.

Speaker 3 (01:44:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
The wearing of beer feet is a lot more wearing
of beer feet in New Zealand than there is definitely
in the UK, but generally in the world. But also
when you're over seas and you see a New Zealander,
there's something about the casual way in New Zealand's a
dress and that you can spot them a mile off,
Like if you're on the tube and you see someone
at the other end, you go that in New Zealander. I

(01:45:19):
was in Japan once and I was walking down a
street and I saw these guys that are about one
hundred and fifty two hundred meters away, and I thought
they're Kiwis, And then they were walking towards when they
came up and said, Lo, there was something about the
incredibly casual way, sloppy way we dress, the flip flops,
the feet, the shorts, the stubbish shorts, the sort of

(01:45:43):
rubbish t shirts were.

Speaker 3 (01:45:45):
Isn't that nice though around the world. You're quite right,
Kiwi's a knowing fin not really making too much of
an effort in the fashion department, Fiona.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
Your thoughts on fashion.

Speaker 16 (01:45:55):
Well, I was in my twenties in the eighties.

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
Oh, yeah, right, you would have been right in the
thick of it.

Speaker 16 (01:46:03):
Multiple cans of hair spray, shoulder pads, yes, I stell grimace,
And every once in a while I'll see something in
a restaurant and go, I can't believe I went out
with something off my body. And there was a whole
thing about looking like you're in the military. The shoulder

(01:46:25):
pads had cackles on them. You could get really big ones.
So the bigger the heir than bigger the shoulder pads.
I just don't get it any more of it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
Yeah, Well, what was the thinking at the time, Fiona.
Was it to present sort of a powerful presence with
the shoulder pads that you'd make yourself, you know, I
don't know, look a bit taller, a little bit more powerful.
Was that the thinking at the.

Speaker 16 (01:46:47):
Time, Actually, I think you might be onto something there.
A little bit about the early eighties, women started to
rise up into executive positions, right, so your appearance at work,
because I was in a non executive but I was
in a very man controlled work environment at the time,
and the woman put these shoulder pads on so that

(01:47:10):
your shoulders were broader, and you kind of felt a
bit more powerful, like you Phittizen, and you went, wow, Gurley,
you know.

Speaker 11 (01:47:19):
There's the opposite to Gurley.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
That's so interesting.

Speaker 16 (01:47:22):
Sixty I'll say.

Speaker 2 (01:47:23):
That, but I guess I guess it had the ad
advantage of would make your your waist quite look quite
slum potentially.

Speaker 8 (01:47:32):
Yeah, there's that.

Speaker 16 (01:47:32):
The rest of you, the rest of you did look slimmer.
And if I could put my two cents in on
the high heels, a little bit of that from me,
was it major? It makes your legs look longer and slender.

Speaker 11 (01:47:43):
Rises you So I don't really anymore.

Speaker 16 (01:47:48):
Obviously, if I was twenty twenty something in the eighties,
you can kind of do some maps there figure out
I am and at high heels aren't about.

Speaker 11 (01:47:53):
A decade.

Speaker 16 (01:47:55):
Or more to pump fear. But at the time it
was about the long legs and looking.

Speaker 22 (01:48:01):
Like the models.

Speaker 16 (01:48:02):
The supermodels all had this ridiculously legs for miles and
putting heels on the ends of your own leagues made
you feel like you had statue that statue. Yeah, and
apparently my husband didn't mind.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
Yeah, is it worth it those so slightly longer legs,
but you're having to tottle tottle around on on heels.

Speaker 18 (01:48:26):
No.

Speaker 16 (01:48:27):
I chucked them out pretty pretty quick after I took
up nursing. As you can imagine, that wasn't the right
spot where are we were working in hospital or fields on.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
So, yeah, it's a bit club cloppy. Did you at
what point did you move on from from how deep
into the eighties you reckon? You kept the shoulder pads going, Fiona.

Speaker 16 (01:48:47):
Oh, I want to say until about nineteen eighties, about
eighty eight and I had as grunge period.

Speaker 3 (01:48:57):
You're up with the play though, that was about the
time that it went out of ote.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
So and then grunge was that the opposite. It was
about dressing down and basically dressing like Grandma and Grandpa,
wasn't it the grunge?

Speaker 16 (01:49:09):
Yeah, plane flannel shirts. The boys will had flannel shirts
on and and the thing was the ripped jeans and
so ripped jeans were very de rigueur, bigger the holes
than I, you know, but the more indin as.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
You got, and short longs what are they long shorts
or short longs but really long shorts, yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:49:26):
Really long shorts.

Speaker 11 (01:49:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:49:28):
And the ripped jeans, of course crossover if you and
I didn't have anything to do with that particular crowd.
I tried a few crowds I had. I had a
country Western moment as.

Speaker 11 (01:49:37):
Well, but.

Speaker 16 (01:49:39):
I'm not wonder not try things.

Speaker 20 (01:49:41):
But also the big.

Speaker 16 (01:49:43):
Hair bands, the guys in the eighties that had more
we're wearing more makeup and hair spray than I was.

Speaker 2 (01:49:49):
Did you ever go Did you ever go GoF Fiona?

Speaker 16 (01:49:53):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (01:49:53):
I did.

Speaker 16 (01:49:55):
I got into the got into the Cure. I had
a bad break up and I got into the cure
for and the Smiths and Morrissey. But the cure is
specifically I was big stand and I used to go
to a nightclub and sand Diego while I was living
at the time called the Panic Room, and everybody you
could only wear black. Everything was black. Everything was studded,

(01:50:18):
ripped fish nets with holes, and they had the air
conditioning turned all the way up to the place was
freezing like a mortuary. It was really weird.

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
You need that in San Diego because it get pretty hot,
pretty hard to be a goth in that kind of climate,
so you need to you need to lower the temperature
so people could party.

Speaker 16 (01:50:36):
Yeah, I've tried on, I've tried on a few passion things.
I've settled with basically comfortable. I have an army of jeans,
and I have lots and lots of tops and jackets,
and I wear boots and shoes, but they're all they're
all pretty much flat or just a little bit of
a of a bigger heel. But no, no pointy heels anymore, No,

(01:50:58):
thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
Yeah, all right, And you're ever considering a return to
the goth days or you think you're done with your
current lot, You're you're happy with your current look for
the rest of time.

Speaker 16 (01:51:08):
Yeah, Yeah, I still have my country in wester moments
because I do like cowboy boots and I'm quite attached
to those, and I love country music. I'm a musician,
but I still wouldn't you go out in front of
people wearing heels at my age, even if people like Gibbie,
Harry and Cher are still doing an idea like a.

Speaker 3 (01:51:28):
You're great, thank you very much for giving us a
buzz cheers. I think we've got time for Susie before
we got to play some messages.

Speaker 18 (01:51:35):
Get I Susie, Hei, sus I'm Susie.

Speaker 9 (01:51:38):
Yes.

Speaker 18 (01:51:40):
I just wanted to tell you what you don't wear,
you know, very embarrassing. My son was in a competition
back in the nineteen seventy five. He was a magician
and he was going edit for a competition and we
were late, running late, so I didn't have time to
get into my clothing, so I went in my ninety
and racing gown and it was fine. I managed to

(01:52:04):
drop him off at the wear the Titian was but
coming home, I got a flat tie in my car
coming off on the coming off the motor remp onto
the motorway, and I just couldn't go anywhere. And I
just sat there and thought what am I going to
do at help us? Even in the morning, and got

(01:52:27):
out of the car and this lovely gentleman saw me.
I waved him down and I said, are you able
to change a flat tire?

Speaker 17 (01:52:35):
And he just looked at.

Speaker 18 (01:52:36):
Me and anyway, so he helped me. So I was
very lucky. I got bick on the road again to
get home. But I will never ever go without my
proper dress.

Speaker 27 (01:52:49):
Poor.

Speaker 3 (01:52:50):
That's the dangerou, isn't it, Susie. When you think it's
going to be right, I'll just wip out in my
pj's and then something goes on and or something goes wrong,
and then you've got to step back out.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
Well, that's why I'll never sleep in the newd because
you never know what's going to happen. You never know
when you have to fight invaders into your house or
a fire or something. I think at all times to
be prepared for the worst circumstances, to.

Speaker 3 (01:53:10):
Be fair, that would scare away anybody that tried to
break into your house.

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
That's truectually who wants to fight and nude me probably
know them.

Speaker 3 (01:53:15):
Yeah, Oh, eight hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is the
number to caour will goe to play some messages, but
full boards. If you can't get through, keep trying it
as nine to four, the.

Speaker 1 (01:53:24):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything
in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons used Doorgs
EDB on Newstalgs EDB.

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
It is six to four.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Hi, guys, I'm still wearing eighties clothes. As you know,
everything has a ten year cycle. So for four and
a half years I'm out of date, four and a
half years, I'm a trendsetter and for one year I'm
in fashion.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
That's great, this good text, guys. Instant ech I a female,
it's very common in Australia. But men and skinny jeans
and what's even worse, a man in skinny jeans wearing
invisible socks. Deadly combo. Yeah, that is ad.

Speaker 2 (01:53:57):
There's a volcano and you're wearing high heels. You remove them,
you knob, Yeah, but then you're running in bare feet
and away from the lava.

Speaker 3 (01:54:05):
Yeah, that's not good for lava. Skin and lava is
not a good combo.

Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
Prack to cool shoes at all times.

Speaker 3 (01:54:09):
Exactly great discussion on that one. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
Yeah, and thank you to all your great New Zealanders
for listening to the show this week. Thanks so much
for all your calls and texts. We've had a great
time chatting. In fact, we love our callers so much.
Which week we play a caller of the week. This
week it's Frank who rang up about my rants around
how good people have it today compared to our ancestors.
He didn't agree, Frank, have you got enough to eat?

Speaker 28 (01:54:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
Have you got a roof over your head? Have you
got the bubonic plague? So you're doing better than sum
in history?

Speaker 28 (01:54:41):
Well, it's just pathetic, mate. Look we were in the
slaves anyway. Look, the system is just pathetic.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
So you're saying you agree with me on all the history,
and you're saying that there was amazingly struggle of our
ancestors to get here, and that the system has taken
away really what it is to be human, which which
was the struggle.

Speaker 28 (01:55:00):
Mussolini, Stalin and Hitler. We're all Noble Peace Prize nominees,
and that's what they ended up doing. We've got idiots.
Our whole system is created to be stuffed up.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
Whether you go, that's all it takes to be the
call of the week. You just have to call me
an idiot. He was a fighter that It was a
great call from Frank there the Men until afternoons podcast
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Ryan Bridges up next. But right now, Tyler, tell me
why I'm playing the song?

Speaker 3 (01:55:33):
Is this Wang Chun? Everybody have fun tonight? Of course,
Ray Chung?

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:55:42):
He was certainly very quiet. Yeah, thinking everybody was having
fun down and Wellington good Joy's great song.

Speaker 2 (01:55:53):
Tune?

Speaker 3 (01:55:53):
What what happened to Wang Chun? Hell of a name
for bands anyway, Thanks for.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
Listening everyone, see ya on Monday. Until then, give a
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Speaker 29 (01:56:01):
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