Full Show Podcast: 14 November 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello are you great New Zealands? Welcome to Matton Tyler
Full Show Podcast number two four three four the fourteenth
of November. It's a Friday and it was third time
lucky to get this chat away. We're giving a giving
a former criminal a job and we had a great
chat with a guy called Hugo. It was uplifting to
the extreme. What a great New Zealander he is. You'll

(00:37):
love that call. We also had a bit of a
chat about the monster lot of weekend. What's your strategy
if you win the fifty five million dollars? And we
get a lawyer on the line who's advised big winners
in lotter And look, I'm running a marathon tomorrow you are,
so maybe I'll be listening to this podcast while they
run it. They'd be self sourcede wouldn't it? Just listen
to yourself? Will you run? But yeah, So we got

(01:00):
a bunch of a bunch of tips from people on
the phones, and we also address some allegations that were
throwing our way by Mike Hosking on has brief the
show that was.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
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Speaker 2 (01:14):
Go well tomorrow, mate, Thank you and thank you for
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Speaker 4 (01:21):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News
Talk said.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Me, very good afternoons you wow, Matt, that's that was
a hell of a sneeze.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I'd have said, three massive sneezes, double almost full. Yeah. Yes,
I was eating a sandwich when I went the year,
and today I'm sneezing up a storm when I go
to your Pola Sciences. Apologies primarily to you, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
That's right, Yeah, that that was quite a spray. Actually,
they've got some distance that one.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
No, that is that is not true. I employ that
that method that they teach and day here now, yeah,
they taught my kids where you put your elbow over
your phone. Oh yes, yeah, nice, I didn't see that. Actually,
you don't sneeze into your hands, yep, you sneeze right
into sort of your elbow hole.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
You're pretty the elbow hole yeah, official word for it.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, yeah, well you're pretty fast on that. I've got
to say.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Welcome into the show. By the way, is Friday, So
great to have your company. How you doing, Matt, I
am doing pretty well.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Actually, thank you for asking.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Now before we just get into what's on the show today.
Look mate, we're gonna have a chat about this after three.
But it's it's a big day for you tomorrow. You've
got you've got the marathon underway. So I've been you know,
I've actually been an area you mate, over the last year.
You've been doing a lot of work leading up to
this marathon. So I thought i'd put together a little
race pack, little bit for you here. So I've got
I've got a few goodies in there that I may

(02:47):
help or hinder you.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Okay, I'm going to go through this this running pack
for the Queenstown Marathon tomorrow, my first marathon, your first marathon. Yeah,
I'm hopefully underprepared. So we'll be talking about that after three.
I haven't run in three weeks. Well, look at that's
the sparkling. You've got a bottle of bottle of champagne.
Yea bottle of champagne. So that's that's that's pre right yep.
If you carry woterem that's during yep.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
This one, this one is vital. I think each anti
chafing yep, and just have a read there. So it
works on your nipples, that's fantastic. Yeah, so's on my thighs,
my buttalks. So no need for vesselin or olive oil
or you could do that as well.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
You know what that is? That is great? That's what's this.

Speaker 6 (03:31):
On?

Speaker 2 (03:31):
A nice pack and it's nice packs for at the
end of the race. You're going to need those, mate,
You're definitely going to need those. What a great man
you are. And what's this year? Is that a head band?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
It's just a spear head band. A head band vital.
You don't think about the old head bands, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
All these things. I've been thinking about these things. But
the head band is important.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
And that's fresh there ha'n't been used before because I
will sweeting up a suit. You don't even need to
wash there.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Some chapstick yep, and some energy energy gel packs for
the for the run. The you go, mate, bless you Tyler. Hey,
what a good man. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
I'm pretty proud about the anti chafing stuff I had,
so it's so high and low for that it's hard
to come by.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
So body glide, chafing and raw skin irritation, that's only
the best, you know, that's what all the pro runners use, mate.
Well interesting, I went and bought a pair of Rundies today. Rundy's.
Rundy's are Undy's for running. They're especially designed with no
seams so you don't get you know, they don't rub
you over the length of the forty two k of

(04:29):
the marathon. So ill body glide all over with us
as well, and I should also, yeah, yeah, I'll be
putting that all of my nipples to stop the chafing
of the shirt because that's a serious thing. Yeap, you're
all set to go. You're all set to go. But
I'm touched by that, Tyler. What a nice gesture. Thank you.
You deserve it, mate.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
But speaking of that, this is what we're going to
have a chat about after three o'clock, is that it
is tomorrow and you've had a lot going on in
your life, so you know that the training has been
I think you would admit, pretty minimal over the past
couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
So at the end of my training. I was training
for this marathon for the whole year. In the last
three weeks to a month have just got so insane
that I literally have not been able to finish my training.
So I'm going with this run very very green and
very raw yep so tips strategies.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
What is what is met Hea need to do to
try and make the best run of it tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Literally? Yeah, absolutely, you know, even right down to nutrition.
We'd like to hear your marathon stories. After three, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
And because it is Friday, New Zealander of the Week
as well, nomination is still open.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, who will it be? Nine two nine two If
you've got a suggestion for New Zealand of the week,
who's put their hand up to be a particularly great
New Zealander this week? That is all after three o'clock.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
After two o'clock, we all dream of winning lotto, especially
when it hits the fifty five million dollar must win
jackpot like it has on Saturday night. That is a
huge amount of money, but we often hear about the
bad stories that you know, this is going to miss
up your life for most people if you win that
sort of money.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
You're going to waste it all on drugs and women
and all sorts of other stuff, and it's going to
ruin your life. Yeah, I mean, but we all believe
that we would be able to handle it tonally.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Well, we've already the stories, we've seen the documentaries of
winning Loto ruining lives. But we all have a plan.
We've all thought about our plan that what we would
do with the money to make sure that we survive,
not only financially, because the interesting thing is sometimes it
blows up in people's face and they wint a huge
amount of money and then they end up a huge
amount of debt. Yes, but it's also spiritually. I think

(06:22):
the spiritual part of it is very important. When you
win that money and suddenly all your problems are solved financially,
but not all your problems are solved emotionally, and you've
got no one else to blame because you got all
this money. So and look, there's a huge listenership and
getting bigger and bigger. To Matt Heath and Tyler Adams
afternoons on news Talk, seid, so there is a higher

(06:44):
than zero and actually reasonably high chance that the person
that is going to win this weekend. That fifty five
million dollars is listening to the show. So your advice
that you ring throng on eight hundred and eighty ten
to eighty might help them could save a life. Yeah, absolutely,
that is up because we all feel sorry for that
person that's.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Going to win Buggers that is after do a club.
But right now, let's have a chat about this. We'll
be meaning to get to it for a few days,
but we absolutely getting into it right now. It's giving
someone with a criminal history a chance. It was an
article that started off with a key guy called Richard,
no last name used, but he started a new job,
very very good job, but he was sacked on day two.

(07:21):
That was because of choices in prison time. He served
thirty three years ago. So his criminal record check came
through as it often does, and it revealed a string
of offenses from his youth when he was just aged
twenty years old. That was burglary, some drug position, and
unlawful position of a firearm. He's been cleaned since two
thousand and two, but that didn't matter. His employeer said no, thanks, yes.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
So the Clean Slate Act of two thousand and four,
it intended to give ex offenders a fresh start, but
it still permanently punishes anyone who has ever served prison time.
So even thirty years later, even if you've been completely
clean slate and you're a different perdents than thirty years later,
so people can still lose their jobs. And people are

(08:04):
asking now and advocates looking for reform because other country
is wipe some prison records clean after years of good behavior,
but in New Zealand we cling on to it. It's
just kind of in a way, you could say it's
a as this university lecturer has said, this law lecturer said,
a never ending punishment. So you know you're just getting ahead,

(08:25):
You get your job and because of going to prison
for some burglaries thirty years ago, and yeah, deserve to
go to prison, yep, to bed time absolutely, But at
what point do you give these people a second chance? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:38):
I what one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number
to call? Would you hire someone who had served at
prison time more than thirty years ago? Love to get
your thoughts on this. Nine two ninety two is the
text number? Would you give a part? Would you take
a punt rather on someone with that criminal past?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
And should Kiwis with old prison records get a true
clean slate?

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yep, love to hear your thoughts. I want one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is that number to call again?
It is fourteen past one.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
everything in between. Madd Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons US talk.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Sa'd be for a good afternoons you seventeen past one?
Would you hire someone who had served prison time more
than thirty years ago? And our clean slate laws do
they need to be reformed? Because as it stands right now,
if you do serve prison time that does not fall
under the Clean Slate Act. Oh, one hundred and eighteen
eighty is that number to call?

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Hello, Chris, welcome to the show. So you've you've very good.
Thank you so much for talking to us today. You've
employed close to sixty work release prisoners over a period
of fifteen years, I believe you.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
Yep, probably over a period of ten years.

Speaker 8 (09:45):
I'm well employed.

Speaker 7 (09:48):
We're to release prisons which came out of a self
pre universe.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
And what what business are you in Chris?

Speaker 7 (09:57):
Well, I'm retired now, but I was in the supermarket business. Okay,
major supermarket.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Not we're just having a few issues at the phone line, Chris,
But well hopefully it comes right. It's just sounding a
bit muffled. But just tell us a little bit about
that program. How did you you get wind of that
program in the first place?

Speaker 7 (10:19):
Well, we had act You're not quite sure how it
all came about, but it's sort of generated because we
had the prisoners coming through the store and work are
in self care units, so once a week they used
to come and do the shop. So, uh, corrections, made arrangements,

(10:41):
you know where we come. They payment shop from the store,
and we said we were and they're always accompanied by
a prison officer even though they weren't.

Speaker 9 (10:57):
Chris.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Sorry, what what you're saying is really really interesting. But
the loan line is really bad.

Speaker 9 (11:02):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Is it possible for you to move? Are you at home?
Are you or are you in a car? Or whereabouts?
Are you?

Speaker 7 (11:07):
I want a card? You want to turn radio off
itself and just talk to you through that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Would you be able to do that? They would be
Give it a will, Yeah, give it a will and
it might just be a bit better. Perfect.

Speaker 7 (11:16):
How's that?

Speaker 10 (11:16):
How's that?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Jesus. Nice, Chris, Jesus. Sound good. That is good stuff.
It's like you're sitting right beside me. Yeah, I love
that love. So if we just go back a step
about how how that came about again, because I just
sort of missed some of it.

Speaker 10 (11:32):
Well, it came about like them attacking. I don't think
about doing it at the moment, but I had a
self care unit in rem attack of prisons. So once
the prison's got to a certain stage where they were
due to be released or.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
They were.

Speaker 10 (11:51):
Well behaved, they could go and start looking after themselves.
So they started teaching them life skills around, you know,
looking after themselves and getting up, doing the cleaning and
doing their cooking, buying, buying food and such. And they
come to the store. We made a range the corrections,
made arrangements would as to allow them to come in

(12:12):
and shop. It was once a week, and they used
to go around to do their shopping. They used to
do to a budget. And then it sort of started
from there. We started employing them.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
You know, did you employ them because you thought it
was the right thing to do or were they Were
they the same price as a as a normal.

Speaker 10 (12:30):
Employee, same price they never got they went any cheaper
than a regular employee. So if we had position and
they felt, you know, they were suitable for that position,
we'd employ them. So I used to interview them, and
it wasn't just they just didn't roll up, you know,
the corrections would make arrangement. I'd get a hold of questions,

(12:53):
say we've got a position going here and there and there,
if you've got anyone suitable that could fill that position
on your books at the moment, and they'd come back
to me, yes, well know it. And if they did,
I'd interview maybe two or three or four of them
at a time and then make my decision based around
what I thought.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Did you care what they had been doing time for the.

Speaker 10 (13:14):
First part part of the deal with me was part
of the deal. Like so if if I used to
be able to sit alone with them and the officer
was outside office, I used to sit with them, you know,
and if they didn't tell me, if they couldn't disclose
what they were in for, I wouldn't. I wouldn't hire
them because they just weren't right, you know, you don't

(13:39):
they're not owning it, you know.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, why why was it important for you to utilize
that program, Chris, because clearly as you say that, it's
the same operations employing just a regular person in society.
Was it something that you felt strongly about, that idea
of second controls?

Speaker 2 (13:54):
They served their.

Speaker 10 (13:55):
Time, you do, like, you know, like for the grace
of God. You know, I was a little bit of
a rat back when I was growing up, and you know,
a couple of more left tuns and I could have
been on the other side of the desk looking back
and asking for a job.

Speaker 7 (14:07):
You know.

Speaker 10 (14:08):
I always remembered that, you know, And when I got
in a position where I, you know, did it right
for myself, I decided, you know, when that opportunity came around,
I'd give it a go. And it wasn't just me.
The owner of the business he was on board with it,
but he left it pretty much over to me.

Speaker 11 (14:22):
You know.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Well, good on you, Chris. That's you know a lot
of people success. Yeah, some particular successes and couple crowds.

Speaker 10 (14:31):
Oh, some major fails. You wouldn't believe the files were paired.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
So on balance, was it more success than fail.

Speaker 10 (14:37):
More success than fails?

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah? So describe describe what a successful you could you
describe Chris, what a successful you know, like tenure was,
was that working for you for a while, moving up
the ranks and then going to some of the failures
if you could, Chris.

Speaker 10 (14:52):
Well, well, there was a guy that worked for us
for years and he was into car converting and he's
still until now he's still working and he's stound up
and you've leaved and he's probably been here twenty years
or fifteen to twenty years or something like that. We've had,
you know, I'd go down to it, like one has
become a motorcycle mechanic.

Speaker 7 (15:13):
I went down.

Speaker 10 (15:14):
I've seen them all around the place working in different businesses,
you know, and they're quite successful. And some of them
have been you know really you know, quite prayer criminals
and they've changed, you know. But then you've got the others,
like I've had them real bad ones of where I
found out more about them that I didn't personally I

(15:36):
couldn't live with and we had to make a decision
just to get them, you know, yeah, or.

Speaker 7 (15:42):
We had.

Speaker 10 (15:45):
You know, they threatened to start and stuff like that.
But one thing I'll say, I'll say that if you
if all the time we were doing it while I
was involved in it. If you disclosed to the people
that they're working with, and if the prisoner was opening

(16:05):
a board with the people who was working with, they
really accepted them, you know, they bought them into the
fault and it gave them a sense of purpose like
you'd never believe. You could just see that they people
weren't judging them. You know, it's it's a quite incredible
thing and I don't believe it's going now and it's
a shame stopped at COVID.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (16:25):
Right, that was the last one, you know to push
bike up on their bikes from m taking them. They
had a time like to get back home, you know,
the plan there was ten minutes later.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Did you have a situation though, And look, you wouldn't
want to be this way, and you'd want to treat
everyone equally, But if something dishonest has happened, did you
find yourself going, well, it's more likely to be this
person that's done some time for the dishonesty than these
other other workers. Was that a thought process or to
treat everyone?

Speaker 10 (16:56):
Would I tried to read everyone equally, but it depending
on what they were incarcerated forward sort of influence your
thought on that but I mean, it tried to be
down the middle and make sure that you didn't just
rebstracted the blame game. So the mostest person to have

(17:16):
done it, so you know, but you know, I didn't
have too much of that at all. Most of the
things that went wrong were outside influences on them, right.
I had one guy that worked for us for years
and years, and he did his best to be the
best he could. He'd done about twenty years in jail,

(17:37):
something pretty horrendous. But once they found out where you know,
the people that found out that he worked at work
where we were working, they kept coming in and harassing
outside stuff. So then then he just snapped and reacted
and the next thing he's back in. So yeah, things
like that.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
I mean, And do you think, generally speaking, under the
right circumstances and given the right chances, that most people
can can change.

Speaker 10 (18:10):
It's a long but I think, yeah, yeah, there's good
in everybody, don't Some people are predisposed to do what
they're going to do, if you get what I mean.
And I met some that you know, you just knew
you're not going to employ them and they're not going

(18:32):
to change. You know, they might change for a little
while and they paid the system system to be able
to get out and do you know, work to release.
But they're not really genuine about their motives about what
they want to do. They just want to have more
freedom rather than change their lives around, you know. So
you got used to picking those out, those ones out,
you know, but generally I think it was eighty percent success. Yeah, easy.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Well, good on you, Chris, because you know those guys
that you're talking about that went on to you know,
have other careers that you see working about the town
and staff in twenty years on. They maybe wouldn't have
got there if someone had give them a chance. Definitely, Yeah,
because you know there are those outside influences and if
you just come out and there's nothing good for you there,
there's a there's a good chance you'll end up going
back to your old way. So good on you, Chris,

(19:19):
and thank you so much for your call. Really appreciate it. Yeah,
brilliant call.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number
to call? Would you consider employing someone with a criminal
history if they serve prison thirty years ago? Love to
hear your thoughts on this one. It's twenty seven past one.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 12 (19:36):
Thanks about regulatory standards. Bill got through, Dandy drive it
through in the Ministry of Regulation. They would see more
of the Labor Party will flip it.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Well, I mean that's of course if the Labour Party. Yeah,
I get all that, but you haven't got broad Bay
support on yes and no.

Speaker 13 (19:48):
David Parker one of the more thoughtful guys I think,
would have been open to it. Duncan wear ballows that
he's not actually standing for christ Duke Central, so frankly
he's shooting blanks. Elena Williams stood up in the debates,
sung for the first two minutes, then cry, then talk
about her ancestors, and then made some incoherent points about
the legislation. So I am sad that we don't have
crosspower support in those circumstances. It is challenging.

Speaker 12 (20:11):
Back Monday from six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with
a Vida News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Very good afternoons you. So we're asking the question, would
you hire someone who served prison time more than thirty
years ago? There's clearly a bit of a short fall.
Sum would say in our clean slate legislation as and
if you serve prison time, you're not eligible for that.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, so shoo kiwis with old prison records, I get
a true clean slate. And would you hire someone who
had been in prison twenty thirty years ago or you know,
just someone that's that's been in prison recently. Yeah, nine
two is the text number. Oh, one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the phone number this text Alie says,

(20:50):
I was caught with some cannabis on me back in
twenty twelve, pleaded guilty, got one hundred hours community service.
To this day, even though I disclose when applying for jobs,
I get a nah for it. I haven't touched cannabis
since then, by the way. See, I mean i'd definitely
hire someone that had been carked some cannabiates in twenty twelve.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
And when you look at the context of that and
you think, okay, that's you know that, in all honesty
these days, is a pretty small sort of crime.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
When you look at the retrobates that work around news
talks 'db Yeah, I mean that person would probably the
least guilty person working here. Hey, guys, my work skirts
the Clean Slate Act by wording the application differently, we
ask have you been charged and found guilty of a
crime and any under the Clean Slate Act? Smart from

(21:46):
our end, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
I don't know if you can skirt it with that
sort of question. I mean, look, if they answer it honestly,
then got on them. But if they decide not to
answer it, there's nothing you can do about that.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
And Grant says, hey, boys, I've hired many staff over
the years who have had difficult backgrounds, including one Chap
who was an ex South Island mongrel mob leader who
had spent most of us out of life in prison.
He had managed to leave the gang and he was
an excellent worker for me. He was at his best
when his work was structured. Thanks for that text, Grant.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, nice, keep those coming in nine two ninety two
were a bit late, so headlines coming up. Then excuse
me taking more of your calls on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty would you take a punt on someone
with a criminal past or who had served prison time?
Love to get your thoughts twenty eight to two, and.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
A bunch of people are texting this and I think
this is implusit in the discussion. That's the way to
say it. I wouldn't hire a sex offender. Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 14 (22:42):
Yeah, absolutely, you talk said the headlines with blue bubble
taxis it's no trouble with a blue bubble.

Speaker 15 (22:51):
New cops have graduated in Auckland today, with patron and
former Prime Minister Sir John Key admitting it's a tough
time for the force and trust is falling. He says
trust needs to be rebuilt and says with the work
of the Commissioner and colleagues it will be calls for
legislative chain to allow for more open banking and more
competition in the sector. Banking Reform Coalition convena Kent Dustin

(23:15):
says the sector won't change while the big four banks control.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Almost the entire market.

Speaker 15 (23:21):
Five point nine million dollars has been dished out to
tourism providers through the government's Regional Tourism Boost RUT and
Z is getting the line share roughly four and a
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to the North Island. Police have chosen a detection device
to be used in new roadside drug testing. It'll pick

(23:41):
up cannabis, meth amphetamine, MDMA and cocaine and confirm the
testing will begin rolling out in Wellington next month. A
Strawn picks the key tactics for the All Blacks test
against England. You can read the full column at enz
Herald Premium. Back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams, thank.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
You, Raylane. It's twenty four to two. This Texas says
it's repprobate, Matt, not retrobait, you absolute wounder. Yeah, what
would retrobate mean? Retrobate bait would be using a worm
when you're fishing instead of you know, some kind of
more modern bait. Yeah. Yeah, that keep us, keep us
on us till nine two nine two. When we say
often Tyler and I you may have noticed, well we'll

(24:19):
get a weird a little wrong, yeap. So my whole
life up to this point, I've been around the sun
a few times. I've been saying retrobate, yeah, instead of reprobate.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Sometimes it feels like English is a second language to me.
But we try here.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
And there's what matters, because of course it comes from
the Latin, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
So what is it actually? So the actual definition is
an unprincipal person.

Speaker 10 (24:39):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Or a sinner. Yeah, so it comes from the Latin
for just off the top of my head, it comes
from the Latin pro bar, which means approval. There's some
good latter knowledge, yeah, or would it come from we
come from prabiri and so be riprebiere, which would mean

(24:59):
to fail the test, right, Yeah, yeah, you said that
very well. It's beautiful. Yeah, so that one again, repro Bardi.
Yeah yeah, I like that your Latin is better than
your English. Oh yeah, absolutely. My mum was a Latin teacher.

Speaker 10 (25:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number
to call?

Speaker 5 (25:14):
Jay?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
How are you mate?

Speaker 6 (25:17):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 16 (25:18):
There's definitely some problems with the clean slate that kind
of like just incentivize you to turn your life around.
But full disclosure, I've got a criminal record three pages long.
I don't have any victims. But you know, in order
to get through that seven years, you've got to have
a lot of patience, resilience commitments, and sometimes you're not
even eligible for it at the end of it, so

(25:38):
you've still got the same problem. But I do think
that if somebody's got on their record that they've been
cleaned for you know, seven years, or more regardless of
whether they've got clean slate that and of itself. So
you know, a lot of fortitude to get through it,
and if you've got the skills then you can do
the job. Then you know, can people to be allowed

(26:00):
to do it?

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Have people given you a chance?

Speaker 16 (26:02):
Jane, I was lucky, well not lucky, like I worked hard.
I just started to do a master's degree. I did
the master's degree. I actually got interns to a government
department which didn't allow criminals to work in the department,
but they created a special project for me that made
it okay. And and then because I had it on

(26:26):
my CV, it kind of like looked good, and yeah,
I was able to maintain my career after that. But
you know, if I decided to change jobs, I know
that I'm in some ways right back where I started.
I just got to keep going. I got to keep going.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, good on your mate.

Speaker 9 (26:43):
In my case, is actually a bug on the criminal record,
like I'm actually supposed to be eligible for it, But
I have absolutely no idea how to get one of
the charges corrected.

Speaker 16 (26:54):
I've kind of just learned a little bit.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
So are you what you mean? I mean, there was
a bug in that when that is listed, it's.

Speaker 6 (27:02):
Entered it incorrectly. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, wow, and you can and there's no no recourse
on that. You can't go to someone to get it,
get a chat.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
I tried hiring a lawyer.

Speaker 16 (27:11):
It's she was really committed to the idea of it,
but like she was, you know, district court hacked, so
she didn't really have times.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Wow. Yeah, you think you could just get someone to
go back and look at the case and then compare them.

Speaker 16 (27:26):
And then I don't think any Yeah, I don't think
that there's any any process for that.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
I thought, like generally, Jay, I think if you you know,
you've got to sign up to what is it that
government system that my my A, whatever it's called. But
I think that you can generally you asked for your
and I'm sure you've done this. You asked for what's
in your your conviction history, and then you go back
to them and say, hey, this is wrong, you need
to change this.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (27:52):
One of those is that one of one of my
charges was entered as two years prison, but.

Speaker 6 (27:57):
I did not go to prison.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
I see a big problem for that. But that's a
big problem for the twenty Slately legislation. Isn't it. Hey,
just when you say, just when you say, because just
going back to you said you said your your crimes
had no victim. What do you mean by that? What
crimes have no victim?

Speaker 16 (28:17):
They were all drugs, but they were significant, like serious crimes,
But in my opinion, no victims.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
So you were taking the drugs or you're selling the
drugs both, right, So I guess people would argue that
potentially the victims would be the people you seld the
drugs to.

Speaker 16 (28:33):
Well, it depends if you educate them properly, then do
they can make their indecisions.

Speaker 17 (28:37):
What I did was it cannabis, a whole lot of
different things, right, right, Yeah, and I made sure that
every single person that got their hands on it knew
exactly what they were taking and allowed them to make
their innocisions.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Right. And how do you feel now? Do you feel
like a different person than the person that was committing
these crimes back in the day?

Speaker 16 (28:59):
Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, it's not even the same life. And
most most people wouldn't even know. But like I mean,
in the community, people can see this that I have
and that's to be honest, it's all it's all come
from that there are skills that you do pick up
from having to be that disciplined, because you know, if
you've got if you've got to get through seven years

(29:19):
and no one's going to hire you unless you're really lucky,
most people will turn back to crime. And that's what
I say. When there's a bit of a flaw in
the clean sate, a like, it kind of just intendivises
you a little bit.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (29:34):
Again, if someone as a bad person, then they need
it to be you know.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Oh definitely.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
I mean I think if someone sue's prison time and
you didn't do that, Jay, but that you know, they
need to face the consequences of their actions. But that
hence that's why they serve time for prison and pay
for that time. But for you, mate, when someone took
a took a punt on you, clearly you sound like
one of the one of the guys that say, I'm
not going to let you down here. You've given me
a chance, and I'm going to prove to you that

(29:58):
I'm going to be the best work you've ever had.
Was that the mentality when someone gave you gave you
a chance?

Speaker 10 (30:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (30:04):
Absolutely. I may or may not have cried during my interview,
but it wasn't intense.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Well, good on you, Jay for turning your life around, mate,
and thank you so much for bringing and ensuring your story.
I really really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
That is Jay, And can you get your thoughts on
what he had to say? Clearly he was pretty emotional
when someone gave him a shot, and he clearly turned
his life around. But if you've been in a similar position, Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number, it's seventeen
to two.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
It's a fresh take on Talkback. It's Matt Heath and
Taylor Adams Afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eighty
ten eighty us talk sab.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
It is fourteen to two, and we are talking about
our Clean Slate Act? Does it need some changes at
the moment? If you serve a prison time that's not
eligible under the Clean Slate Act? And would you employ
someone with a criminal history?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Just to read Jay, a lot of text saying what
a good man Jay is and I'm glad he's turned
his life around. But a few people pushing back on
his assertion that his crimes for victimists victim lists the
success to say that a drug addict makes their own decisions.
Would be debatable when you're selling drugs to them at
what and what happens to their onboard? Maybe if they're pregnant,

(31:12):
you know, but we don't know that Jay was selling
drugs to people with that were pregnant. No, and we
don't know what to drugs he was selling exactly. But
but you know, some drugs, like say party drugs like
MDMA for example, ecstasy, if you're selling that, is there
anyone that's buying those that don't know what they're getting?

Speaker 10 (31:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Well, I mean they sometimes don't know they're getting when
you've got an unscrupulous drug dealer that sells something with
a bunch of other rubbish in it and and potential
to kill people. Terrible people drug dealers.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
But but yeah, on the scale of that, you've got
to be honest here. Jay said that he made you know,
he made it a big thing that what he was
delivering to his clients so to speak, was clean and
it wasn't gonna, you know, do something that they weren't expecting.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
If you've seen the Wolf of Wall Street with the
stock traders that were buying cocaine on that were the
innocent parties.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Hugo, how are you nice to chat with you. So
you yeah, okay mate. So you you also someone who
had a conviction in your past and someone gave you
a chance.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Yeah, mate, and and it changed my life and I'm
now yeah, yeah, thanks to that person. But this was
this was year nineteen ninety four that ended. And back
then they gave me a chance, they gave me an opportunity,

(32:37):
and that's just yeah, it's something that I will always
go back to society. And it's important to never give
up hope, you know, just keep a positive Yeah look, yeah,
you've seen it go wrong many times, but you know,
what can you do but be positive, keep it positive

(33:00):
and just always have hope.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
You know.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
So you've done time? Had you you go?

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Was it was a crazy life growing up with the
you know, state ward kid living on the streets. I
was in foster homes and and yeah, the the the system,
you know, and I ended up living on the streets.
I was a street for about four years.

Speaker 7 (33:30):
Ah.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
I remember bumming enough money for for a newspaper so
that I could get a get a ring, enough money
for a phone call in the old phone to bring
a job interview for for situations vacant you know, Wow,
and and yeah it was just yeah, it was just

(33:53):
another a.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Job you got, was it?

Speaker 5 (33:56):
That was it?

Speaker 4 (33:57):
And yeah, yea, yeah, I'll do jownry on a jowinery.
I've been doing joinery now for CV two years. Eventually
I ended up with the print should But yeah, it was.
It was a hard case because here I was for
the first two weeks living in the bus shelters and
in the park around from work, just close to work

(34:19):
so I could get there the next morning, you know,
uh to to getting enough money for a bond on
a flat.

Speaker 10 (34:30):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
And and then you're getting to make the bead just
just and and make the coffee table, you get rid
of the beer crates. Yeah it was. It was a
hard case, but it was thanks to that.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah. Well but but also thanks you to you, Hugo.
There must be something special in you that you you know,
you got the money to get the paper to make
the call if if you know what I mean that
that you had it in your mind to to sort
your proper problem out and and you know try that.
I mean that that's that is something for for a

(35:08):
street had to do. You know, you should be you
should be proud of that move. You should you should
be proud of that, that that you did, that that
you took that effort and you know that that's that's
I find that quite quite touching and quite impressive for you.
Go so good on you.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
I appreciate you met. No, it was it was a
hard case that you never never once had the boss
given me that you know, they judgment the.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Cool or don't know, yeah, you're a good man. Here
was it?

Speaker 3 (35:40):
It was it pretty hard for you to ask for help.
And I mean it wasn't asking for help necessarily. It
was saying, give me a shot and give me an
opportunity here. But I imagine for you, Matte, you had
a whole life of of having to survive on your own.
And when you get into that situation, whether our people
can help you, is that difficult to ask for it
at that stage.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
At that stage, we had the old street dans that
came and drop around food the middle of the night
and squeeze. You know, this is all down and cross huge.
We had the fountains down before the earthquakes. We had
the fountains down Triangle Center. We can wash your face,
have a you know, you go down to Valentine's, get
on the testers, put some.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
Clothes on, you know.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Yeah, you learn, you learn how to survive, you know.
But yeah, yeah, I have eaten something out of a
rubbish and it's not something I'm proud of, but it's
something I'm proud of now.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
So I wonder if I wonder if that you got.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
A positive you know, keeping it positive. Like so, we're
sorry to interrupt you. The it's so important to keep
it positive and always have hope because I know there's
some people where they can't help, but there are people,
and give them a job. Then give give someone a chance,
just give someone, give someone a league.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
Up.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Hey, we've just got to go an we've just got
to go to an air break. Can you hold on
the line because we've just got another couple of questions.
We'd like to hear a bit more from you after
the air break, but thank you, you're a good man.
Will come back very shortly. It's eight to two.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Matd heath Tylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred eighty.
It's Mad Heathen Tyler Adams Afternoons News.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
It is five to two. Hey, thanks so much for
hanging on, HUGO and look so many people are texting
through you know, support for your for your story. I
just want to ask you a final question. Do you
find that having been on the streets and taking the
chance and making the call and getting the job and
building the life that you have, that you appreciate what
you have more than others?

Speaker 4 (37:48):
Do you asked the right questions met? And I can
see where you do what you do, because yeah, that's
exactly how it feels in Yeah, let's see. I guess
anybody who's experienced you kind of compare moments where it

(38:11):
does get tough and you think, well, it's not that
bad really compared to But we used to you know, yeah,
we used to put the blankets over top of the
lights around the cathedral that used to be you know,
they ude to light the cathedral up at night because
they were perfect. They were a perfect angle to sleep on.
But they were so bright and so hard out that

(38:32):
you had to put a blanket over the top of
the glass to take the tinge off. Otherwise you you know,
you've burnt. So yeah, I guess just those things run
through your head and when you're.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Going, well, thank you so much for your cool HUGO.
I really appreciate it, man, And you're you're a great
New Zealander and all the best to you.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Absolutely fantastic calls that hour. Really enjoyed that discussion. Thank
you so much to Hugo and the others who called
through it right coming up after two o'clock, let's have
a chat about the lot of wind.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Do you beg yourself to spend it wisely?

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Talking with you all afternoon? It's Matt Heathen Adams Afternoons
news talks.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
It'd be very good afternoon cheer, welcome back into the show.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
It is sex Pass too.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
It's so good dev your company on this Friday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
So right, this is going to be a great chat.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
We all, of course stream of winning lotto, particularly when
it hits fifty five million bucks. That is the highest
check pot we've ever had in this country. It's a
must win on Saturday night. But we often hear about
these bad stories where it can become a bit of
a curse. But I think most of us back ourselves
to do the right thing if we win that sort
of money.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Well yeah, I mean every time a big draw comes up,
and as you say, this is the biggest one ever,
someone pops up with an article saying that it's all
going to turn to crap and it'll make your life worse.
But it's hard to believe that, isn't it. Yeah, it's
hard to believe that if fifty five million dollars suddenly
went in at my bank account, my life would be worse.
But it does seem, it does seem to happen. And look,

(40:01):
I was thinking before that there's so many listeners of
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons on news talks. It'd
be that there's a good chance at the person that's
to win fifty five million dollars this weekend is listening
right now. So if you do have advice for that person,
because you will have thought about it. You would have
thought when you've heard that the money that people get
causes financial and spiritual pains in their life. Often, relationships

(40:25):
break up, your family and friends begin to resent you
when you don't pay for everything. There's all these kind
of problems. And also the biggest spiritual problem that comes
through is that you everything you know, you don't have
anything else to blame anymore. You don't have your job
to blame anymore, you don't have your life to blame anymore.
For why you're unhappy and you can do anything you

(40:48):
want in the world. You can have twenty you can
ski in the Swiss Alps for the entire year if
you want. It's a good point that is going to
showcase your failings. But when that happens, you find that
it's not quite as fun when you can do whatever
you want. It's like if you get you know, if
you're in hospital and you can suddenly have you suddenly
have all the time in the world to watch all
those flick shows that you hadn't got around to watching,

(41:10):
and suddenly they're not as exciting because you have unlimited time.
It's so true. And it's the same with video games.
You know, they're not quite as exciting when you have
all the time in the world to do it. And
I think that happens to people that win huge amounts
of money. And also there's a thing with it because
you haven't earned it, so you don't have any pride.
I built this thing, and these are the rewards for

(41:32):
building it. So it does cause a spiritual problem for people.
But equally, I think most of us here will we
have in trouble and have any sympathy for people that
win a lot of money and don't know what to
do about it, but maybe we can help them. So,
as I say, the person might be listening. So you've
probably got a plan. So how would you deal with
winning the money? What would you do? You know, what's

(41:53):
your plan to make it sure it doesn't make you
go insane? Should you win? How would you deal with
it financially and spiritually? If you won the fifty five
million dollars this weekend, because I guarantee nearly everyone listening's
board a ticket.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah, we've all thought about winning that sort of money. Absolutely,
I've got my ticket.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
You've got your.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Ticket, mat yep, yep, yeap. Have you thought about your strategy?
You don't have say it now, but surely you've got
a strategy in your mind because you beat yourself there.
If you had that sort of money, then you know
that's going to sit you up for life, and it's
not going to have any impact on your happiness. In fact,
it would increase your happiness.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
I'd blow it all on hats. Yep.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
That would make you happy, though, wouldn't it. I had
some watches and you'll be a happy boy.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Oh eight hundred. I'd buy a lot of watches. Yeah, No,
I do actually be a p I have actually a
plan for it spiritually, what I would do if I
won that money to keep me sane and keep me
proud of myself and keep me feeling like I was
making a difference than wold I'd ever planned. But I'm
not going to share that just yet. Oh one hundred
and eighteen eighty. We want to hear other people's plans.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yep, come on through nine two ninety two is that
text number as well? If you win the fifty five
million dollars, watch your plan to being seavy with that
kind of windfall. It is ten past two, beg for you.
Surely you're listening to Matt and Tyler.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Your home of afternoon talk mad Heath and Taylor Adams
afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
That'd be.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Very good afternoons.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
You at thirteen past two, So we are talking about
the lotto jackpot, the Saturday fifty five million dollars must
be one. Have you got a plan for what you
do if you're the lucky recipient of fifty five million dollars?

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah? And have you got a plan for the person
that will win it?

Speaker 10 (43:32):
Well?

Speaker 2 (43:33):
It might be you, Edward, Have you got a ticket?

Speaker 10 (43:36):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (43:36):
And d And do you have a plan?

Speaker 8 (43:39):
Well, you know, I do. I think if you're win
that sort of money, of course you're gonna blow up.
But at first songs on some luxuries. But you'll work
out how much can you afford to blow and how
much should you invest to be able to live a
comfortable life for the rest of your life. And I mean,
I'm no investment guys, so i'd give professional advice about

(44:03):
that first, so you could live off some interest and
on your payback from your investments. But definitely, yes, i'd
blow someone on luxuries. I'd probably pay off for the
mortgages for my brothers and sisters.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Would you tell them where that money was coming from?
Because a lot of the problems seem to come from
telling people that you've won the money, who then tell
other people that tell other people, and everyone set their handout,
and suddenly everyone's either treating you differently or resenting you
for not helping them with their problems. So have you
got a plan where you could help them such that
they think that you've hurt the money? I don't know.

Speaker 8 (44:39):
Well, I wouldn't publicize how much one start off with,
i'd probably pause for a couple of months, to be honest,
but whilst still blowing someone luxuries for myself of course, yep,
i'd probably get some sort of legal agreement with them
that they didn't actually discuss. Yeah, and I know that
sounds a bit rough as your family, but you're right,

(45:00):
blue slips and ships and all that sort of.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Stuffy starts to get complicated though, doesn't it your work?
Because I've thought about this and obviously idearly love to
give my immediate family members enough that they're sorted out
for life. But then I think about my partner and
her family. She's got a lot of family members, so
then we've got to all sort them out. And then
you know, I want about the cousins, and the cousins
need a little bit as well.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
But I think it's great that Edward. That's that's you
say a few luxuries, you say finance, and then that
then your mind immediately goes to helping other people. So
that's just me. You're a good person, Edward.

Speaker 8 (45:29):
Well hopefully i'll tell you what Oh my thank god, hugo,
what an amazing human. Yeah, yeah, sorry, there's a change
of subject. But oh my god.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I'll tell you what Edward, when we were talking to
Hugo and he was talking about how much he if
you went listening before, Hugo had been a street kid
and he'd got enough money together. He'd begged enough money
to get buy a newspaper and make a phone call
to apply for a job. Yeah, and so it seems
it seems so vacuous for our next topic, what have
you win? Fifty five million dollars? It was It was

(46:03):
a bit of a bit of a gear change there.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
But I think I.

Speaker 8 (46:11):
Read those articles yesterday in the paper about people that
had failed that had won lots of money. I mean
one wasn't Ozzie that got a Loto in New Zealand.
The other was in the UK and one the state.
Where's the New Zealand examples?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
I mean the different there was trev wasn't there? He
remember Trev I think it was Trevor who won the
twenty eight million dollars a while back, and I think
he worked at a supermarket and he said he was
going to go to work the next day, then he didn't.
He was very public with winning winning it, and I
think he bought a few cars and maybe he got married,
and I think things went a bit south for Trevor Or.
I don't know the exact details.

Speaker 8 (46:41):
He blew heaps on cars, went off to the States
and was going to race tracks and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
He was yeah, and I think you know the relationship
that he formed after that when you know, broke up
and she took quite a bit but a lot of his.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Money, so to speak.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
So, yeah, poor old trev But that's, you know, being
in that public with your winning. I think trev was
the first and maybe last where you get in front
of the newspaper and say, I'm so a million marks.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
That they had press waiting outside the supermarket that he
work there the next morning for.

Speaker 8 (47:10):
Yeah, that was shocking, but he did bring it on
himself kind yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yeah, I mean so I think that that's rule number one.
If you win the money is you don't do a
you know, a celebration tour around the media.

Speaker 8 (47:24):
The problem is you wouldn't fifty five million dollars. You're
just like, oh ho ho, and it's gonna be hard,
but you've got to take a breath, suck it up,
and just sit on for a while before you do anything.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Would you keep working do you think you would?

Speaker 8 (47:37):
No, No, well actually no, Actually that's well, I wouldn't
keep working in the same job of it now, to
be honest, I'd probably look at moving into a business
that will pay me and have other people work for me. Yeah,
but that would be part of the whole getting professional advice,
and I wouldn't just go to one person because I'd
go to multiple what do you call them consultants? I guess, yeah,

(48:00):
and just to get such a rough idea of what
the best options are. But definitely I'd probably work on
some business type stuff.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Yeah. What about emotionally? What about emotionally? Edward? You know,
what would you do around that? Because because people say
that when they win the money, when you read about them,
they think it's going to solve all their problems. And
you hear this as well with you know, rock stars
when they suddenly become rich and their album's number one,
and you hear it from movie stars when it happens

(48:29):
anyone that comes into a lot of money and all
their dreams come true, they suddenly don't have something to
strive for and they and they realize, you know, wherever
you go, there you are, and that their problems don't disappear.
They just are almost exacerbated by the fact that they
have unlimited resources to throw into whatever negative emotions or

(48:52):
negative habits that they have.

Speaker 8 (48:54):
Well, that's the problem. Money's not going to solve your problems.
At least I've got a financial problem.

Speaker 10 (48:59):
It's going to fix.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (49:01):
Yeah, it's not going to solve any issues you dealt
with your whole life. We're haven't dealt with.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (49:06):
I might give you a bit more money to go,
pay a bit more for specialists.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Yeah, that's true. Get yourself good shrink.

Speaker 10 (49:13):
Yeah, it's not going to fix anything really apart from
your financial statue.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (49:23):
But if you think if you give up thing yourself
and gay it doesn't read anymore. I've got fifty five mel,
then you're just on a big downhill spiral.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, hopefully you do win the fifty five
million Edward, and then we can test your theories out.
You're left to contact us secretly and tell us how
it's working out.

Speaker 8 (49:42):
You'll see me on the news flying down the highway with.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
The Yeah show. He's living the highlight for way a
can that's that's in his his spined up phase. But
he's but we know that he's getting a financial advisor
and he's getting a shrink. He's going to be it's.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Only the first five mel Yeah, you're a good man.
Thank you very much. Jo one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Have you thought about winning fifty five million bucks this Saturday?
And what's your plan to make sure you don't blow
it all?

Speaker 7 (50:12):
Really?

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Can you hear from you? It is twenty past two.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Matd Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZV afternoons.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Here was twenty two past two. So how would you
deal with winning fifty five million dollars if you thought
about how you'd handle it emotionally?

Speaker 2 (50:32):
The six is they say money can't buy happiness, but
I say it can get pretty damn close. Well, you
know money can't buy your happiness potentially, but also I'll
tell you what poverty can buy you, misery. Yeah, yeah,
very true. When you don't have money that kind of sucks.
Debt can buy you misery absolutely yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Yeah, keep those tis coming through A nine to two,
nine to two, Jonathan, welcome to the show.

Speaker 18 (50:56):
I'll good upon guys. So the topic is that one
person wins or one ticket wins fifty five million. Well, so, yeah,
I sincerely hope that is not the case. I would
love for it to go to at least I'd love
for there to be at least ten winning tickets. That's
five and a half million dollars each. And that's loads.

(51:16):
That's that's I reckon. That's the optimum amount, four to
five million, and it's not enough to go stupid on
and it's and it spreads that fifty five million over
so many more people. That's nice winning ticket.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
That's mad. That's a nice way to look at. But
five point five million, Jonathan, So pay off your mortgage,
put your kids through school, what whatever you could do.
You could do a lot of the things that you've
dreamed of. But yeah, you're right, you can't. You wouldn't
have to worry.

Speaker 18 (51:47):
But the noise on the car park building, I thought
it would be quiet here. But so I if I
were to win the if I were to be that
one winning ticket holder, I'd give myself a number cup
and then I just I would just go nuts with it,
giving it, giving it out. I'd give a lot to

(52:07):
adults on a daughter who have got grown up families,
no sorr who have got families with humongous mortgages. I'll
give some to my blood And it's just no, you know,
but this is what I would do. I would give
I'd buy, say, run in to the hospital, or even
we don't have to be running to the hospital. I
could buy Autian Hospital run in to the hospital. Christian

(52:29):
Hospital each an EMERI machine. They're only to do any
for there only two and a half million dollars each,
So I mean you could afford a stack of those
if you want that?

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Would you do that anonymously, Jonathan? Would you publicly?

Speaker 18 (52:45):
Yeah, I'd do it anonymously. Yeah, No, I wouldn't. I
wouldn't know. I'd contact the health boards and say, look,
I'm available to buy your machine. Where do I send
the money or something like that.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
I would.

Speaker 18 (52:56):
I would just I just want to do good with it.
I really want that would be my grade.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Well, hopefully you win them because because someone that wants
to do good with it, rather than just envisioning all
the luxuries they would have. When you talk about kids
giving money to kids, though, you've got to be careful,
don't you, Because if a child's eighteen and you give
them three million dollars, say, for example, it's terrible for them.

Speaker 18 (53:17):
Oh yeah, sure, Now you've got to be responsible. And
I've always been good with money in my entire life.
I remember when I was a kid and I got
fifty cents pocket money a week. I used to have
a budget. Hell, I was going to give it up.
So I've always been I've always been good with money.
I've never I've never gone nuts with it. Yeah, but
that would be my greatest pleasure, would be to do

(53:40):
an enormous and an immenseal amount of good with it,
and you can that could.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Be meaningful work as well, because you know, if you've
got a lot of money and you're throwing around willy nilly,
you can do damage because you don't do true, true diligence.
So so you know, some people say when you get
fifty five million dollars that you know that what do
they do with their lives? Well, if you carefully investigate
how you're going to spend it, so it's spent in
the in the right places and goes to the right
people and does the maximum amount of good, then that

(54:04):
would also fulfill your emotional needs and your spiritual needs
and all those kind of things and fill up your days.
So you know, yeah, all right, well Jonathan, all the
best for this weekend.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Yeah, I hope you win or at least five and
a half million dollars, which would be nice. I wait,
one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?
Plenty of texts coming through on nine to nine two.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Hey guys, it's a no brain to tell no one,
sit on it for a few months and then tell
people you've won a far lesser amount and a later
lot of draw Then the laise will leave you alone,
happy days. Yeah, it's actually quite smart.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Yeah, there's a lot. That's a good strategy to do
nothing for three months so I can give you fifty k,
but you know I haven't won that much.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
I one one hundred and ten thousand, and you can
have one hundred thousand dollars. I'm amazing.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Headlines with railing coming up. Then we're taking more of
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what would you do with it to make sure that
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Speaker 2 (56:17):
Thank you very much, Raylean.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
So we're talking about the big fifty five million dollar
loto jackpot this Saturday must be one. If you won
that money, have you got a plan in place that
you wouldn't lose your mind and ensure that you remain
somewhat happy.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
This Texas got a plan of mind, I'd build one
of those big Scrooge McDuck swimming pools so I could
swim in my money. It's a yeah, it's not a
bad idea, that's just that's a solid plan. Yeah, I'm
sure that would work out for it. You fellas, winning
fifty five million wouldn't change me one bit. I'd still
be a preck, just a prick and a helicopter. That's
from matt Oh. If it's not till you go to

(56:52):
Europe that you realize you need a lot more than
fifty five million. Five hundred million wouldn't touch the sides.
Both cost two hundred million, a plane fifty million. Then
you're nearly out of money. Well see, that's the problem,
isn't it is that you won fifty five million dollars
and then you go Europeans think I'd like a big
yacht and fifty five million dollars isn't enough, then nothing's

(57:13):
ever going to be enough. I would set up an
account with maybe ten million, and all family can take
a loan with only a one percent interest. Judge bad.
See when you start this is what the problem is.
People try and involve their families, and when they involve,
the family's resentment comes. And if you go, you know,
you've won the money, you've won fifty five million dollars,
and then you're giving them money and charging them interest. Yeah, yeah,

(57:33):
that could turn bad. That's when it sort of turns
into a Rosebud kind of Citizen Kane type all on
your own, inter mansion type situation. Diane, welcome to the show.

Speaker 7 (57:44):
Hi there, how you going good?

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Thank you your thoughts.

Speaker 19 (57:49):
Well, my auntie and uncle they've actually won twice. They've
won Lotto twice. Well they've thing really smart was that
the first time they won was one point three million,
and they were the outright winners of Lotto that time.
And they were really generous. They bought their two children
a house each did mortgage free, and they bought a

(58:11):
house themselves on whitehige and nothing, nothing flash or anything
like that. Just you know, a normal three bedroom house
on white Kick. But they were able to retire probably
I think six or seven years earlier than they planned that,
and they were able to they lived very comfortably on
Whitehiki for a long time. And then about seven years

(58:32):
later they bought another ticket, and I was luck because
they were buying twelve dollar tickets like not, you know,
not spending a lot on it. But they bought another
twelve dollar ticket and they won first division, but divided,
and they ended up with seven hundred and fifty five
thousand dollars that time, and that.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
You'd start to think you lived in a simulation. You'd
start to think that life was a bit of a
game when that was happening twice.

Speaker 19 (58:59):
Yeah, And it was just they were they were really
that when they got the seven hundred and fifty five
they were really good because Auntie your own, had four sisters,
so all the sisters got ten thousand dollars each, and
they flew us in from around wherever you were in
the world. We all came together and we stayed at

(59:20):
the Regent Hotel in downtown Auckford, and we had like
a family reunion, and it was all the cousins and
the aunties and uncles, and it wasn't a wedding and
it wasn't a funeral. It was just so relaxed and
so much fun just to catch up and talk. And
they take for all of us to stay there and
fly from wherever we were in the country. So, Yeah,

(59:43):
they were amazingly generous.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
I think it's an interesting day that they chose to
be quite public about it. Were that Were they public
with their family and also in the media, or were
they winning twice? You could be a big story and
then you've got a lot of attention, which you might
which might be a cause problems.

Speaker 19 (01:00:03):
No, they definitely weren't public with it, but within the
family we all knew and that and the thing I
think we all loved about it was they were really
poor when they won the first time, like they had
they had done years of hardship, like really hard I
think they'd lost their house three times prior so. They

(01:00:24):
but they you know, they were very, very very grateful,
but very start with the money as well. They never
wanted to go backwards either, so they weren't extravagant with it.

Speaker 20 (01:00:35):
They did.

Speaker 19 (01:00:36):
I don't think they ever had a holiday. They considered
moving to why Heckey was the holiday, but they were
just yeah, they were lovely weather and they just looked
at us to their own.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
I suppose people to win that money, Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:00:53):
I remember my mum ringing to tell me that they'd
won the first time because they had to catch a
ferry over to why from whiteh Hecky to downtown autend
to find a lot of shops to confirm it, and
they bought three bottles of pinctuas on and three bottles
of white shot on and they were all quite cipsy
when they cloned that night.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Good stuff were the best.

Speaker 19 (01:01:15):
You've won one point three million and you're drinking pink shirt.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Yeah, guys, don't forget your roots, as they say, yeah,
just quickly, quickly, Diane, how did the sisters go with
the ten thousand dollars? Clearly that's you know, it's a
lot of money for anybody. Were they happy with that
amount or was there any grizzles that maybe they wanted
a bit more?

Speaker 20 (01:01:36):
No, absolutely not.

Speaker 19 (01:01:38):
Everyone was born away. It really helped everyone get everyone
through UNI and it was just at the right time
when we were all all our cousins were having that
UNI age and there was twenty one of us. So yeah,
it went a long way. It really helped. And it's
funny because no one ever, I've asked afterwards and stuff,

(01:02:00):
no one ever really approached them for loans or anything,
you know, like we just left them to enjoy it too.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Yeah, because because that could be the problem, isn't it.
So you help someone out and then they get in
more trouble and then they ask you for more money,
and then you have to say no, and they say,
but you just got won the money, so why can
you give me the money I'm going to You're already
gave me ten thousand dollars, now I need one hundred.

Speaker 19 (01:02:21):
There a horrible position to be, oh terrible.

Speaker 18 (01:02:25):
Yeah, no, it was great.

Speaker 19 (01:02:27):
They lived well and they and they were very careful
with it. They went slowly and had a great life
right through to the end.

Speaker 20 (01:02:34):
So great, very special.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
That's a great story. Thank you so much for sharing story, Diane.
That was that was very interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Yeah, I one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call love to get your thoughts on winning
that fifty five million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Jace, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 11 (01:02:49):
That just underscores. Thanks Fella's lift breeds luck. Right, winning
it first time, we all dream about winning the second.
That's sort of it's almost like supernatural.

Speaker 7 (01:02:58):
Stuff, pretty free to share, you know.

Speaker 11 (01:02:59):
That's that's saying, you know that money won't buy your happiness.
I think that was always devised by people that ether
that just don't have enough compelling compete against that. I
think the best way you can make happiness out of
winning money like this is make others that are unhappy happy.
And look, they might be down on their luck, they
might they might have lost a job. I wouldn't think

(01:03:20):
of a better way if you would have win that
nomination of money to reach out to people you know
in that situation and that that that's gold. Or you
might be in a situation where you medically you just
can't afford to get treatment, and we know what it's like,
you know, these parts of the world to certain things
you just can't afford, you know, to buy some more time.
And I think that's another area where it could it

(01:03:42):
could you know, prove that happiness. But but I got
a fundamental issue with Lotto and I don't know him
to be a doom doomster. On the eve of a
fifty five million jackpop. But that's my problem, fellas. No
one in this country should be allowed to win fifty
five million dollars outright, Like I personally think a way
better system and I hope lot O are listening and
powers to be, but they're probably not as once it

(01:04:04):
gets to past ten, make sure people make sure five
people win two or two people win five or whatever.
You do not need to win fifty five million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
There was a good chance, though Jay said it all
that happens, that happens, that it split up a good chance.

Speaker 6 (01:04:21):
No, no, no.

Speaker 11 (01:04:22):
Most of the big jackparts and I've looked into this
that are around over thirty forty and there was one
other that went to the max had to terminate. Mostly
you'll find it'll grind your gears Sunday morning when you
read one person from Bellcluther board it online or something
you're near.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
From the beginning, I've got the story Chase on that
that it's always you're not gonna not go want a
lot of buying your lotto ticket in Central Aukland. It's
always Bellcluther or Raglin.

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
Or some non descript place.

Speaker 11 (01:04:49):
But look, I don't look that's a that's a discussion
for another day. The moral compass on this, but no, look, honestly, mate,
for me, in all seriousness, if it were to be
me and the chances are two trillion to one, it'll
be family, good friends and doing something that I don't
want to be renown for that I don't know, just
makes a difference in a lot of people's lives, because

(01:05:10):
that's what it would take to make me happy winning
that type of money.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
On you said, Jae, A good message. Yeah, absolutely right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
I got to play some messages, but taking more of
your calls. We've got full boards at the moment. If
you can't get through, keep trying. If you won the
fifty five million dollars, how would it play out?

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Do you think? For your life? Love to hear from you.
It is twenty two to three.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tayler Adams afternoons us talks.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
They'd be for a good afternoon seventeen to three. If
you won the fifty five million dollars loto jack pot,
what is your plan?

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
The stick said. I always thought that I would help
my friends, but now I wonder if they would help
me Wow. You do things because it's the right thing
to do, don't you, Wow? Most of us. It makes
you a better person if you would help them but
they wouldn't help you. That that just makes you thanks
you better?

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, You've got to be the bigger person
in your life if you can.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
The best revenge is to not be like them, as
the saying, as the Marcus Aralia saying, John, how are
you you? You're a lawyer who's helped a major lot
of winners. You're an excellent person to talk to.

Speaker 20 (01:06:14):
Yeah, it's an interesting process for those people to go through.
But the first the first point was that the Lottery's
commission does give these people advice, effectively to go and
get advice. So that's to study position. And in our case,
heapned twice and they were both existing clients of the firm,

(01:06:37):
and they came and got some advice about how to
protect themselves and their families.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Does does does lotto and does? And from a legal perspective,
do you give them the advice to stay anonymous?

Speaker 20 (01:06:51):
I think usually by the time they've come to the lawyer,
they have already it'll even be out or it won't
be so Lottery certainly gives it. I think lotteries gives
a lot of advice around them, but also lottery's likes
to celebrate good stories, so I guess you've got to
publicize it. Yeah, Usually those decisions have been made for

(01:07:14):
people have come and asked me. But if they did
ask I would be telling them not to broadcast it
to the entire world.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
What other advice do you give them the difficulty?

Speaker 20 (01:07:26):
I think the really interesting thing of the discussions that
you've been having is that people the pressure to give money,
or the expectation to give money, is one of the
most difficult things for people to deal with. So there
are ways to deal with that, like, for example, setting
up a family trust where you have an independent person involved,

(01:07:47):
and then you can actually say to people, well, I
can't just give you money because my lawyer and my
accountant or some other person actually has to make that
decision with me. It also means that if your children
give money to your children and they get into a relationship,
you could protect your child because that money is owned

(01:08:09):
by a family trust. Now, now, in the long term
it will end up with their child, but but you
can offer protection in the meantime. So there's lots of
mechanisms that you can use to set this up. But
generally people have a bit of fun as well, So
it's not like saying, don't spend any money, don't have

(01:08:29):
any fun. It's just making sure that when the dust
settles that you've got enough bit less to be able
to actually make a change. And whether that's for you,
family or community, that's up to you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
I always thought if I won a big amount of money,
I would set up kind of some kind of I
don't know fund will you help people? You know? Like,
you know, what do you call it? Not not a
not a patron of the arts, but a benefactor, like
a silent benefactor type person. So so what what what
I mean? How do people go about that? Because you

(01:09:06):
might not want to be well known for doing it.
You just want to operate in the background. But you
can't really going around searching people and giving them money
and giving people money anonymously and all that kind of stuff.
Is it possible to set up a structure like that
where you can be a silent benefactor towards you know,
people that you deem to be worthy one hundred percent.

Speaker 20 (01:09:26):
As you looked at most properties in a district you'll
see lots of lawyers' names on titles or lawyers trustee
and nominee companies on titles because people don't want that
sort of information to be publicized. And so yeah, absolutely
you can set up a charity, trust or any other
entity that you wanted and keep yourself relatively anonymous. I mean,

(01:09:51):
like most things in Jill in a small place. So
most of the times, regardless of your structure, once people know,
they know, and often take long for that information to
pass around. But going back to that earlier point, if
you've got a structure we for example, I win this money.
If I can't just give you money because there are

(01:10:12):
other people involved in that division process, that's a really
good protection for people to have.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Yeah, wow, it fascinating to chat to you and do you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Know, I mean, can you talk about it because because
you know, this chat sort of well it started off
because that whenever there's a big lot of draw coming up,
there's always the article that enlisting all the people that
became miserable from it and ruined their lives. Did the
people that you give advice in one bag have they
have they thrived, have they succeeded, or have they crashed
and burned trev style.

Speaker 20 (01:10:44):
They have thrived and and and nicely. People in the
in the community knew that they had won because that's
the nature of New Zealand society, right, But they also
like they set up their families, they made their lives better,

(01:11:04):
and they also gave a lot back to the community.
And I think it takes away some of their pressure
from from people that contact you with their life story.

Speaker 8 (01:11:16):
And look at it.

Speaker 20 (01:11:17):
It's tragic, right. You are going to be contacted by
people whose child might have cancer and wants to go
to Mexico for treatment, and you're going to get these
kind of approaches and what do you do. So you
can have a cold hearted lawyer like me say no
because it doesn't put the parameters of of of the

(01:11:39):
rules that we set up for this. Now we love
of a softy deep down, but the reality is is
that if you set up a mechanism that has a
decision making process rather than just you, you know, if
you've got nothing in place and it's just you and
your bank account, yeah, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
I mean it's going to be because there's there's unlimited
misery out there and terrible circumstances and you know, you'd
pay out one, then be another and then or another
and there are another and it would be very hard
as a person if you were in that position where
you could just get the money out of a bank
and give it to them to not not do it,
but then but then you end up losing everything. And yeah,

(01:12:18):
so I can see this, can see that that being
a massive problem.

Speaker 20 (01:12:21):
So they take it John, Sorry, Yeah, but also you
just just for their mental well being, you're just helping
them through by setting up a structure. You can just
help them through that process, right, and so that so
that it's not just them feeling that angst, you know,
and they've got that ultimate bailout, which is I can't

(01:12:44):
make this decision. I'm going to go and have to
talk to my whether it's a trust or whatever structure
you've set up. So so there are oh, as you said,
you could set up to trust, one for you and
your can be and one for these charitable sort of outcomes,
and then people could make applications and then yeah, and
that's the other thing that people do do quite often,

(01:13:04):
and that's not necessarily caught the one loss. So that's
just because the wretch quite frankly and I've got money
to stare.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Yeah, well, thank you so much for insights, John. Yes,
that's very very interesting, very helpful.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
High chance that the person who's going to win that
fifty five million dollars is listening. So there you go.
Get in touch with John right, got to play some messages.
It is ten to three.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way. Mad Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News TALKSB.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
News Talks HEB. We're talking about winning the fifty five
million dollars. Do you have a plan in your mind
if you are that lucky winner? Here's an interesting text, Hi, guys,
Lotto win thought experiment. Could I pay someone to go
jogging on my behalf then give me a blood transfusion
so I get the benefit. Something I saw on the
mad Max documentary is how it works.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
So what is the benefits of exercising the blood? Wouldn't
you need the muscle growth as well? Yeah it's a
good point. I mean, math device, you must pay someone
for their muscles as well. Yeah, if you win, dear,
text to let us know how that goes. Jake says,
if I won fifty five million dollars. The first thing
I do is buy a house in Paradise, and by
Paradise I mean Duneda. Get a lot of house for

(01:14:13):
fifty five million dollars in Dnedin. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah,
you get for about one point five to two million.
You get a house with stables. Nice, yeah, horses included
extra for the horse and yeah, yeah fair enough to Mark,
how are you mate?

Speaker 7 (01:14:31):
Good a baddy?

Speaker 5 (01:14:32):
I've got a couple of thoughts about this loto thing.
I've always thought that I don't believe that one person
should win that much amount of money because of several reasons.
I don't know how the lottery Commission work it, but

(01:14:54):
I would suggest that maybe they gave when it gets
this high. Why don't they have a system where it
gets split where maybe ten or twenty people win a
lot of money. Imagine what that would do to the
economies that they live in. For a start, I don't

(01:15:16):
know if it work well.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
I think I think the problem with that, though, Mark,
is that that you know, from a business perspective or not,
that that lotto was a business, because you know it's
it gives the money back to the community what comes in.
But like a fifty five million dollar. For some reason,
five million dollars isn't good enough for people. Fifty five
million dollars when they see that and that that that
that there's one person is going to win that, and

(01:15:38):
you know it and it generally is was the big
ones according to a caller before, it means more people
buy tickets. Just the bigger the number on the on,
the on the win, and the more tickets they sell.
So so they're not incentivized to split it up like that, Mark.

Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
Why why why aren't they.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Well, I mean in terms of in terms of their
KPI as a guest, in terms of selling more tickets,
they're not. I mean that there could be, there could be,
you know, they could be legislated to do that potentially better.

Speaker 5 (01:16:11):
I'd suggest maybe they need to look at that. I
just can't understand one person and don't take me wrong,
but that one person that whin's fifty five million dollars
might not be may I say, the right person to
win it?

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
If you won the fifty five would you share it
with ten other people?

Speaker 5 (01:16:32):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Mate, you're the best of us. Mate, get back to
us if you win. You have some good PSA. They're
a great discussion. Yeah me too, Mark, don't forget about us.
Right coming up after three o'clock New Zealander of the week,
Who will it be.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Your new home? For Instateful and Entertaining Talk, It's Maddie
and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk seven.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
Yeah a to you, welcome back into the show seven
pass three. Hope you're doing pretty well on a Friday afternoon,
so let's get into this one. This one's going to
be a great shit so marathon tips and tracks the
big day.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Yeah, that's right, it's almost a right for you. That's right.
Tomorrow morning at eight twenty I will be heading off
to run my first marathon in Queenstown. I'm pumped up
for you, mate, my first marathon anywhere, but it happens
to be in Queenstown, the Queenstown Mouth on it. I'm
excited about it.

Speaker 7 (01:17:25):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
And thank you so much Tyler. You bought in a
survival pack for me. It's got some fluid energy geels.
Thank you for that. A chocolate brownie. It's not a
weed brownie, is it could be?

Speaker 10 (01:17:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Is that going to help you? As I said, it
could help will hinder. So that's that's a mystery brownie.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Well, I'll find out what brownie give me. You've got
a bottle of bubbles for the end, You've got some.
You've got some ice ice packs.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
Those will absolutely come in handy around.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
I'll have I'll ask Tracy to be holding those at
the finish line. Well, me, it's a three peck as well,
so you can do that every team. K I've got some.
You've got me some anti chafing body body something, body
body glide. That's huge. You got to protect the nips, yep.
And I'll also be I've got some. You've got some
band aids there for my nipples, which can be a
problem when you're running. So thank you so much. But

(01:18:11):
as I've said on the show before, I have well,
I sort of trained for a while this year, but
my training has really slipped in the last month, which
seems seems like a bad thing. Yep, because you know
the last month it's surely important. Although I talked to
Kerry Wardam this morning who's run a few marathons, and

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she said, the best thing I possibly do is for
my training to have slipped for the last month, because
it means I'll be running on fresh legs. And carry.
Wadam is a marathon expert. I think she's run five marathons,
and on her show this morning, she had this to
say about marathons.

Speaker 21 (01:18:47):
The Paris one, if you're going to do one, is amazing.
That was my slowest one, but that was quite deliberate
because they offer food. You start under the act trioph
run down the shauls a les and do a big
loop and come back under the act Triomph. They offer
food all the way around. Had a foot massage under

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the Eiffel Tower by the Paris School of Physiotherapy got
hosed by firefighters Pompier, which wasn't unhappy about. And then
at the thirty six k mark the guys from Boujelat
run and pull a keg cask of boujelais behind them

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and they don't cross the finish line until the cask
of wine is gone, helping because of course the lovely
Ethiopians and the African runners weren't going to stop and
they were there to win it. I wasn't. I was
there to help people. So I drank boujelai and a
pattai and tererene and beautiful food, waddled back under the

(01:19:59):
Arcta triomph about five hours later, five kilos heavier and
completely sozzled.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
It sounds like a good time. Yeah, it sounds like
a great marathon.

Speaker 18 (01:20:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
I haven't heard that kind of marathon experience before, which
is all bubbles and pat day.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
They're not going to be dragging Central Otago pinon War
at mile thirty thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
No, I'll be running mine sober. But I'm jealous of
Garry's experience there. But yeah, so your tip's way hundred
eighty ten eighty. When we've talked about this on the
show before, a lot of runners have come through, and
I think running is a fantastic thing. It's great for
your health. I mean, it can do your knees it
but yeah, I think I can do terrible things for

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your ankles, but it is great for your health. And
there's a lot of runners out there in New Zealand
and has been for a long time. So if you've
run a marathon, love to hear your marathon stories and
your tips. Way hundred eighty ten eighty. But now, Tyler,
now it is ten past three.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
The Mattie than Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of the week.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Here we go again, new great New Zealanders Every Friday
on Matt and Tyler Afternoons on News Talks, there'd be
we name the New Zealand of the Week, a powerful,
completely made up honor that we bestow on your behalf
to a newsmaker who we've discussed on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty over the last week and has done
good for the greatest little country on planet Earth over
the past seven days. As always that we two runners up,

(01:21:24):
but only one winner. Who will it be? Without further
pissing around, This is the Mate and Tyler Adams Afternoons
and Zealander of the Week. Our second runner up spends
more time in the water tagging sea monsters than most
of us spend on our phones tagging friends on Insta.
We had a great chat with doctor Riley Elliott the

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Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Name one too.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Moving on to our first runner up. Now, after a
solid hour of chat on the phones on the subject
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Stuff left on booms for other key Weis to pick

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Zealander of the Week. And if for whatever reason the
winner of New Zealander of the Week cannot fulfill their
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you will be asked to step up and cut the
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(01:23:31):
home to Cromwell for some hot laps for charity.

Speaker 22 (01:23:35):
Liam Lawson, you will get your seat soon, but for
now here is they coveted honor of Matt and Tyler
afternoons New Zealander of the week for.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
The second Let me good time. You've won up this year.
Take it away, Howie Morrison.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
After seventy one, last seventh.

Speaker 22 (01:24:08):
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Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
So that's a ministry of defense of an.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
His talk said, afternoon to you. It is seventeen past three.
We're talking about marathons, tips and tricks ahead of the
big day for Matt Heath tomorrow, but also your experiences
on marathons.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
You've run this, Texas says, I'm quite a big heavy fellow.
But it's not that hard. You just keep running. It's
no big deal. But that's the kind of advice I like,
because it is true. It's forty two k. But you
do just keep running yep. And so you know every
great journey starts with the first step out the door,
isn't it. It does. So you just got to keep running.
So remember it's just running, mate, You've done it before.

(01:24:50):
Just keep running, Just keep running. Forrest Gumpant.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
Yeah, Bruce math Hi, good mate, I'm the marathon man tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (01:25:02):
A couple of questions, Matt. How many ks have you
got in your legs up till before you stopped? What
were you doing a week? What were're running a week?

Speaker 16 (01:25:11):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
I was running a minimum of ten k every second
day and sometimes fifteen and the longest run round was
about twenty eight k.

Speaker 6 (01:25:22):
Were you doing one hundred a week? Were you doing
over about one hundred a week?

Speaker 5 (01:25:26):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
I would have been doing about forty a week.

Speaker 6 (01:25:32):
Okay, how long had you been doing that?

Speaker 15 (01:25:34):
For?

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Whole year? About from sort of you know January?

Speaker 6 (01:25:41):
Okay, right? Yeah. A couple of things. What it's a
bit late now. What we used to do. What we
used to do is a thing called glycogen overshoot. And
when we had a like a big game coming up
with the diet, the we'd have a be given a
diet and we'd train really hard during the week, but

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we wouldn't be allowed our diet would exclude no carbohydrates.
It would all be it would all be protein. So
we'd train really hard and deprive our body of carbohydrates,
which synthesized the glycogen, which is energized as the muscle.
Now we would stop, we'd stop our protein diet. I

(01:26:29):
think it was about the night before and we would
have a huge meal of potato pasta, white bread, and
we would fully load up with carbohydrates, and our body.
Once our body had been deprived of the carbohydrates because
we'd had a protein diet for about five days and
we'd been emphasizing vigorously, our body was streaming out for carbohydrates.

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So we load up on carbohydrates, and it knows that
when that happens, the body is going to go into
exercise mode, so it synthesizes a lot more than it needs,
and it stores it in your legs and it counters
the lactic acid which can build up towards the end
of the race. So that's that's the thing with that.

(01:27:19):
It's it's a pretty it has to be monitored pretty closely,
but you don't feel it initially, but you don't feel
what I say. You don't feel it in the short term,
imember John Hart was one of our coaches. But you
feel it in the long term when it comes to
the last you know, when you really need the stamina.

(01:27:39):
That's when you can feel the glycogen synthesis taking place.
And as far as your marathon goes, yeah, I don't
think you've got enough case in your legs, mate, And I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Doing it either way, Bruce, I'm doing it. I've got
to find them.

Speaker 7 (01:27:58):
I'll give you a little tour bival.

Speaker 6 (01:28:03):
Doing a lot of case builds up a core strength,
which means you've got to stand upright for about four
four or five hours running, which is quite hard.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
On its own.

Speaker 6 (01:28:11):
And I was listening to head of this morning. She's
done seven marathons. That's awesome, I reckon, even though she
hasn't done one for seven years. I reckon she could
still do sit ups with both legs in the air.
Because if you do enough miles in the year of
the year, you get a coarse strength that means you
can do sit ups and that sort of thing with

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your abdomen and you don't feel if a core strength
is built up over years of just slow exercise. The
other thing, if this is your first marathon, the thing
that don't stop, because as soon as you stop lactic
acid will even even do a power walk. But you'll
hit a thing called It may not happen, but you

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hit a thing that the marathons are famous for. It
it's called the wall. And you can hit the wall
between thirty and thirty six ks. It's an unreal thing
and your body just shuts down and you just don't
know what's going on. You actually have to drive yourself
through it.

Speaker 5 (01:29:14):
It'll be something you'll never have.

Speaker 7 (01:29:17):
You work through it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
You does it last like ks? Or like does it
last like twenty minutes or something like that, or is
it to the end you work.

Speaker 6 (01:29:28):
Through it, it just goes yeah, you don't, You don't.
It's there and you just sort of try and put
it out of your mind and it's one of those things.
You just got to puff it out.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Just through the wall.

Speaker 6 (01:29:40):
This is the marathon, this is your moment, and you've
got to not stop and just keep pushing. At the end,
you'll feel marvelous and you'll never forget it. But just
be prepared for the wall. Yeah, drink pretty fluids and
don't stop power walk if you need to have a break.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Thank you so much, Bruce, I've done it. But are
your cardbloading? Tyler Will this morning? This morning over our
pre show coffee, Yeah, I had a bacon and egg
pie and a huge ham toasting.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
He went all in, yeah, because I thought it was
just the buy and I thought you're fair enough, that's
you know, it's good on you. And then the toastings come.
I thought, Jesus mate, you are going carloading. Yeah, that's cardboating.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Bruce. You said you were training for John Hart obviously,
so you're a rugby player.

Speaker 6 (01:30:26):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, we yeah, we started. He John
was one of my coaches. He started out at white
Manor and then went on to coach the Auckland All Blacks.
He was He was a He was a very very
vocal halfback. He never stopped chatting. He was like Craig Ennis.
He would back behind the Fords all day. He was
a nuisance. But he was actually one of the first

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coaches in the mold of Graham, of Bennett and the
guy Maguire that's doing the Broncos really actually get more
in demand management. They have they have guys that get
to get the players in the peak physical conditions, but
the coach actually develops a relationship and individual relationship with
every one of his players on a level which is

(01:31:12):
commensurate with where they're at their family, so that you know,
that's why you're seeing these unbelievable performances from these specifica
players because you know, these guys they pick up not
only the player, they pick up the whole box and dice,
They pick up the whole family. They look after the
whole family and all the support, the far no support

(01:31:34):
around that player is there with them, so they're not
you know, they're really good players are not isolated. They
have a lot of far no support because these are
million dollar players. You know, these these guys are worth
a lot of money, so you know they've got to
look after them.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you what, Bruce, thank you so
much for your call, so if I can get that
kind of full reparound support in the next twenty four
hours before I start. There was good. Yeah, great call,
Thank you, Bruce.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
We're going to go to the ad yeah eighty keen
to hear your tips and strategies for running a marathon.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
It is twenty four past three.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty
eight on News Talk.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
ZB afternoon to you twenty seven past three. We'll beginning
a lot of texts through about this marathon is ship.
We're just going to detour away from it for a
little bit till we get back to it, because a
lot of people are texting through and said that our
breakfast host is it, Mike Hosking, I believe has been
throwing some grenades this way again.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
Yeah, there was some chetter apparently on the show this
morning making aspersions towards yourself. Yes, I think I think
I was kind of saved from any aspersions, right, But
we will get the headlines out of the way, yeap.
Play what he says, yes, and then you can defend yourself, okay,
because yeah, it was it was pretty full on.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
I've got to say, mate, the sixth is Matt. I
remember the hell behind Queenstown Airport sucks, but look forward
to that. Good luck with the chafing as well. This
person says, Matt on a marathon, don't be a hero
in the first half, and don't be a worse than
the second half. You'll get there even if it isn't pretty. Yeah,
that's I think that's good advice. Go slow at the

(01:33:16):
start because you get excited because a lot of people
around you. And I've run a number of half marathons,
and I get very excited at the start because there's
so many people around you. Bit of nervous energy, and
you come out of the blocks the fastest first k
you've ever run in your life. Yeah, and then you're
in the back foot all the way. I'll be coming
out of the blocks very slowly.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
Yeah, as someone else, but I said, be a lamb
at the start, in a line right at the ynd,
which sounds about right right. Coming up headlines with Ray
Lean and we are going to get back to your calls.
We've got full boards at the moment, but keen on
your advice if you've run a marathon. But we are
also going to address these wild allegations that my costume made.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
Against Matt Heath. I'm interested to hear them. Twenty nine past.

Speaker 14 (01:33:54):
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it's no trouble with a blue bubble.

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displayed flows. Current Commissioner Richard Chambers spoke to media today
about after a new police wing graduated, promising police will
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(01:34:25):
prevention measures at christ Church Hospital. There are currently two
small outbreaks of fewer than ten patients on one ward
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(01:34:46):
Mosgeal using two historic railway tunnels. A fifty five thousand
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(01:35:07):
ceremony has marked the start of a multi billion dollar
development in the Auckland suburb of Beachlands. You can read
more at Inzaid Herald Premium. MacNaught and Matt Heath and
Tyler Adams.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
Raylan just before we get back to the tips and
strategies for running a marathon as Matt is going to
be doing from tomorrow morning down in the beautiful Queenstown.
We had a few texts that alluded us to some
allegations made on the Mike Hosking Bretforst Show. So Mike
was on here as he always is on a Friday
with Caton Tim very popular segment, great segment, yeah, great,
great people. But he was talking about sneezing and being

(01:35:41):
afflicted by hay fever while he was in the studio.
So he went on to make this wild allegation.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
That'll be the film, will be the filth in the dust.
It's that Matt Heath.

Speaker 12 (01:35:53):
Yeah, that w The proof is your honor if I
take this to court, and don't think it's not going
that way. Eventually, when Heath was away Heath was away
recently for the trial duty off. I thought he's been
finally charged, that he was actually just on jury duty. Anyway,
I come in here in the morning and I'm thinking
what's different and what's different is it? It's still filthy,
but it's not as filthy, and I'm thinking, what's what's

(01:36:16):
the common denominator here on the common nomina.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
So what was the percentage of felth though?

Speaker 12 (01:36:22):
Would you say thirty forty measure at forty two and
a half.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
I'd love to see. I'd love to see your methodology
now if we.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
Could prove it, we could see if we could find
any of Heath's DNA inside you.

Speaker 12 (01:36:37):
What if that Carl and Jackie Oh show, we'd now
be off air.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
If you're saying that's making you sneeze, that's smart. I'll
tell you what, my goodness. We we may be filthy,
we may leave the studio in a state, but you
won't hear that kind of filthy comment on Matton Tyler's
Afternoons on you still Glen seed there. Yeah, you have
to be the number one breakfast show in New Zealand
for a couple of decades before you can just drop

(01:37:11):
that kind of absolute felth.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
That is absolute smart, you know, like we keep Yeah,
we might be filthy in the studio, but we keep
it clean on here what clean.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
Said about DNA? Yeah, and Mike and I we would
never never on this show.

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
There'd be a lot of BSA complaints coming their way,
I think, and rightly deserved.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
How dare they?

Speaker 23 (01:37:30):
How dare they?

Speaker 24 (01:37:31):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
But very good, that's here they do onen that's messing up.

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
All right, we'll put that one to bed because we're
going to get back to marathon tips and tricks.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
We've had so many ticks come through. On nine two
ninety two, I man, I was seventeen years old when
I entered christ Church half marathon and missed the turnaround
ended up running a full marathon. Wow. See, I've worried
because I've run a few half marathons in my time,
and I have been worried that I'll I'll keep the
I'll get the course wrong and end up on the
full marathon. You know. But you know, if you don't
notice that you've run, once you've run thirty k, you'd

(01:38:02):
start to suggest, start to think maybe that was more
than twenty one. I've run one marathon, the twenty ten
a marathon. I hit the wall around the first city
kN two hours and five minutes, last twelve k and
one hour twenty six, three hours thirty one total. That's fast,
three hour thirty one. I'd be very happy with that. Disappointed.
I've never tried again, but if I did, would target
three hours and fifteen. Yeah, you're a go get it, Brian.

(01:38:24):
I'm running to survive that the time is not an
issue for me. Yeah, you just want to finish. Mike.
You've got some ideas for marathons.

Speaker 7 (01:38:31):
Yeah, you just listen to Boots about these, Matt.

Speaker 25 (01:38:37):
But I think probably more importantly, you've got to have
your distant.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
Shorts Rod Dixon shorts, the sort of sitting up high
at the back.

Speaker 23 (01:38:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:38:47):
Can we look on Google you see.

Speaker 5 (01:38:49):
What I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
Yeah, you're you glide on to make sure that there's
no funny business when it comes to chafing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
But yeah, are they aerodynamic? Yeah yeah, yeah, creat marathon
great runners, a fantastic runner shorts.

Speaker 6 (01:39:02):
We're in the seventies and eighties.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
Yeah, they like they like a short short they Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:39:07):
And you have bristly mustards as well.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
It's too late to grow the mustache, but I can
probably get hold of I mean, to get shorts like that,
i'd have to go into the kid section of Farmers.

Speaker 25 (01:39:17):
Up to the edge you're looking for, mate, Yes, thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
For that, Mike, appreciate it. It's a great tap the
Rod Dixon stubbies. Dion, You've got a bit of a
marathon story.

Speaker 18 (01:39:29):
Do you I got it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:31):
Yeah, do.

Speaker 25 (01:39:32):
I'll tell a quick story and then get a little
bit of advice for you.

Speaker 5 (01:39:34):
Matt.

Speaker 25 (01:39:35):
First of all, congratulations on taking the steps so to speak.
It's awesome stuff. Oh thanks mate. The thirtieth birthdays in
London and my now it's wife said to me, what
do you want to do? I said, I want to
run New York Marathon. She said, okay, well let's do it.
So we trained up for it. We went in the ballot,
and we got three months training, hardcore hunting, hardcore reagion,
all that stuff, got really really fit and really lean.

(01:39:56):
And then I got into the into the ballot and
she didn't, so I said, no, we're not going to go.
We'll go and do something else. We went around Monaco instead,
which was just beautiful, and we were down we're training time.
We were looking running about three th which was I
was really happy with. My dad was a marathon runner
and ran a sub three at altitude, which was about
a two twenty anyway, so we've been there. On race day,

(01:40:17):
were training it along. We get to teen miles and
she said I've got to stop. I said, okay, stop,
and we stopped for all of thirty seconds and I said, okay,
I've got to keep going. And as soon as I
took off again, I felt my knee go and we
went from being on for about three fifteen we finished
four twenty. Because it was just I said, I was

(01:40:40):
hobbling by the end of it. So as Bruce said,
don't stop. Even if you need to slow down, just
slow down and just walk STPs for the day. Get
there early and do a little bit of a warm up,
light warm up and a bit of a stretch, but
don't overstretch.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
Right warm up by a warm up do you mean
just sort of at a little bit of a jog
round tins, Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:41:00):
Light job, yeap, just and not for too long. Made
one minute, two minutes to stop, do a bit of
breathing when you're in the run. It's like you said,
don't go fast. Try to find some people to talk
to along the way. That always makes it nice. People
I was traveling about the same pace. You're not always
going to stay at the same pace as somebody as well.
Some people are going to want to go off ahead
of you. But find people that you can have a

(01:41:22):
conversation with and enjoy it because it really is a
bloody good daysonately.

Speaker 10 (01:41:26):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
I like the idea of I like the idea of
it being a bloody good day as opposed to a
torture that I used to get through. I'm going to
look at it like you say, down and it's an
experience and it's beautiful down there in Queenstown. So if
I can somehow enjoy the company of other people and
the and the the surroundings at some point in it,
then I think that'd be a win.

Speaker 6 (01:41:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:41:46):
I did my second third one. Sorry. I did Auckland
for my fortieth birthday and I did zero training, absoutely none.
My training for it was probably the four bottles of
red wine I had the night before, and I completed it.
I came last in my class, but that was okay.
And it got to the halfway point and there was
a father and son that I've been kind of running
with and talking to a little bit along the way,

(01:42:07):
and the sun said, I think I want to stop
d and I just went over to them. I said,
all you got to do is round the base twice
and you've done your marathon, and so they took off.
They finished well before me. I got to the finished line,
and I said, you know what, mate, if you hadn't
said that to us, we probably would have stopped. So
it's all a mental game as well. When you hit
that wall, which you may well do, just say yourself,
all I've got to do is run to that next lampost,

(01:42:28):
or run to that next driveway, or get this much
further and you'll get there. Mental game.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
Thank you so much for that, Din. That's that's very
that is very uplis. I'm almost looking forward to the
wall now. I've heard so much about it, so you know,
people say you hit the wall. When when I hit
the wall, it'll be like I'm hitting the wall, meaning
a celebrity. It's here, I've hurt the war. I've heard
so much about you.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number
to call love to hear your marathon tips and strategies
and coming up after the break. I've just actually looked
it up. The percentage of people that have actually run
a full marathon. Do you want to take a guess now,
Matt at how many people out.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
Of people on the planet?

Speaker 5 (01:43:04):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
The percentage of people yep? I for guess, yeah, have
I guess? Tempting not even close, mate. I'll tell you next.
That is twenty to four.

Speaker 1 (01:43:14):
Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tylor Adams
afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
They'd be very good afternoon. Ju It is seventeen to four.
Plenty texts coming through.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Yes, so many people are saying this. There's a couple
of things here, but from this text here go well, mate,
don't have gels too early, only after thirty. In my thoughts,
the gels that you give me someone your and your
very generous run a survival track pack that you give
meet Tyler for my marathon coll a flavored with a
little bit of lime juice thrown in. If you want

(01:43:47):
to see that, I just posted it to my Instagram
Matt Heath endz on Instagram and the story just this
beautiful pack of goodness that that Tyler gave me. Thank
you so much. Mate. Don't have the jails to early,
only after thirty. In my thoughts, keep your head up,
keep your bum tacked in, not leaning over ford, find
a mate who runs at your pace, hold you to
the work grate, but not pushing too hard, finish strong.

(01:44:08):
There you go. So and then this one says bum tucked.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
So clearly that is a strategy that a lot of
people employ. How do you so you're bumming, just sucking
your gut and I'm sort of leaning over you sort
of got your forward straight as an air.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
Okay, Okay. There's a bunch of people are saying that
I've been running my whole life since Tis, but never
mad or dumb enough to attempt a forty two k marathon.
My advice is get a cab your muppet. Yeah, good advice.
Someone here else says that it is bum tuck, bum tuck.
So many people saying that that must be a big thing. Okay,
I'm going to look into that. Someone is saying that

(01:44:43):
it's this thunderstorms and bring your gummies to Queens Down. Yep,
that's extra motivation.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
Just quickly, before we go back to the phones, I
asked the question, what do you reckon is the percentage
of people that have completed a full marathon? You reckon
ten percent. There's a couple of guesses coming through zero
point eight seven percent wrong. The calculation is a round
about zero point zero one percent of the population and
have completed a marathon.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
So if I complete the marathon, I'm in zero point
zero one four. Did you say, wow, that is pretty impressive. Well,
that's scary. That does that put pressure on you? It
does a little bit. I'm sorry, mate, I'm not that special.
Well you will be if you finished. Aaron Wels at
the show.

Speaker 24 (01:45:27):
Yeah, hey, guys, great, great conversation. Quite different for a change,
which always makes it fun.

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
Thanks.

Speaker 24 (01:45:33):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, it is. It's good that you
guys mix it up. Otherwise could get boring. Heah, it does,
but could do. Hey, So a couple of things. Are
you a quitter, mate?

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
I'm do you know what? I'm good at? Quitting things
like smoking and coffee and in fact, a lot of
friends to me to say that I'm always looking to
remove joys from my life. But I think I have
good discipline.

Speaker 24 (01:45:57):
Aaron, okay, so you're not a task quitter, which is
a good start. And then the next one is have
you visualized finishing yet? Have you closed your eyes and
seeing yourself across the finish line?

Speaker 9 (01:46:11):
I have?

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
Yes? Nice, you have good good.

Speaker 24 (01:46:14):
That's the important one. So now my story for you,
pretty short and sharp YEP is about twelve fifteen years ago,
a friend of mine's mum come to stay at our house.
It's an older mouldy lady that looks like she couldn't
run to the gate, and she was going to do
the New York Marathon with a group of older moldy
ladies who none of them looked like they could run
to the gate. And they went to New York and

(01:46:35):
they did the New York Marathon and they all finished.
All it is, if your time doesn't matter, you will finish.
And just remember when you're running along that that group
of older mouldy ladies all finished the New York Marathon
just because they just stuck out it the whole way.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
Yeah, matez, time isn't a thing for me. It is
just finished.

Speaker 6 (01:46:57):
Yep.

Speaker 25 (01:46:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:46:57):
So yeah, yea one hundred percent got it in the bag.
As as the other thing is is about one hundred
thousand people know that you're doing it, so you're just
going to get slammed next week all week. You'll deserve
it if you don't finished, so we'll all call it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
That's that's a great motivation eron because and that's part
of the why I've been the reason why I've been
so public about it. It's so when when when at
about thirty five k, when I've got nothing left, I'll go.
I will have to explain that I didn't deal with
that accountability that is going to hold you on.

Speaker 24 (01:47:25):
There's at least one person watching you for every step
you take after that thirty thousand everything, single step. You
just think, okay, that's one least person that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
Well, if you promise to absolutely rip me a new one.
If I fail to do it, I'll think about you
and it'll get me home. Thanks so much, eron appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:42):
Yeah, that is great thinking. Oh one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number?

Speaker 1 (01:47:45):
Call Ray?

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
How are you mate?

Speaker 26 (01:47:49):
Good?

Speaker 18 (01:47:49):
A mate?

Speaker 23 (01:47:49):
Good Taylor?

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
How you doing good?

Speaker 23 (01:47:52):
Hey, I'm Matte. Three pieces of advice for the marathons.

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
Three you're one.

Speaker 23 (01:47:57):
If you're drinking any alcohol, stop no alcohol between now
and finishing the race at all.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
I'll put this tequila shot down, not even one beera.

Speaker 23 (01:48:08):
The night before checking rosotto is always a good one.
You want to cargo load check right, yeah, right will
be good for you.

Speaker 6 (01:48:16):
Like big meal of.

Speaker 23 (01:48:19):
Rice, smell the night before this morning of I reckon
go with porridge or rolled oats again carbo load. And
the third thing, which is really important is make sure
you stay hydrators that will stop you cramping. So the
gels are good, MAT, but you also want to stay hydrated,
so you need to drink a lot of water the

(01:48:40):
days leading up to it, Drink a lot of water
on the morning of it, make sure you stop at
the water stops, and the.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
Days leading up to it. It's it's a less than
twenty four hours away, so I better start that consuming
of water now, yep.

Speaker 23 (01:48:53):
And make sure you're drinking water on the run, mat
because once you once you get it over probably half
marathon distance, if you're not hydrated, your muscles be much
more likely to cramp. Those are pray the best three
of things I can tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
Yeah, that I mate, thank you so much for that device. Ray.
I've written those down and I'm going to I'm gonna
start hydrating as soon as the show's over and I
won't have these takida shots. So oh, thank you for
you mate. That is great, And I've already started the
carbloading as we saw at lunch today.

Speaker 3 (01:49:21):
Tyler, yep, Hey, there's actually a text that's comes through
from Kerrey Wooden for you.

Speaker 2 (01:49:25):
Oh he's it. Yep, A great New Zealander. Yeah, great
New Zealander.

Speaker 3 (01:49:27):
I'll read it out and says good a Matt I
ran Queenstown at fifty worth double if boobs and a
big tummy. Neva Ridaman who ran Queenstown and a howling blizzard.
If you feel like stopping, just remember that she's a
good woman.

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
I love that I'm at season running here. Bum tuck
means when you're running, push forward with your butt. It's helpful,
and that it helps keep good form and not fatiguing
so much. Also importantly, above all, ourse enjoy yourself. Such
a great camaraderie amongst the other runners and spectators. Best
of luck, Thanks Linda, appreciate that.

Speaker 10 (01:49:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:49:57):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
So we got time for Maverick. I think we do, Maverick.
Are you doing pretty good?

Speaker 26 (01:50:03):
Mate? I've rand the Princhit chelenge around Lake nineteen eight
two one and only under prepped like to you. And
there's a ten dollar bit with my Australian boss three
hunts for you.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
Yep.

Speaker 26 (01:50:23):
Make sure that paraground of thirty kilometer mark you've got
someone waiting for you with.

Speaker 7 (01:50:30):
Still Coca cola flat Coca cola.

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
Okay, I've heard about this because because of the sugar.

Speaker 7 (01:50:35):
Yeah, yeah, you'll be craving for it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:37):
Yeah. Ok, I'll see if Tracy will do that for me, tack.

Speaker 26 (01:50:41):
And behind a tight backside. It'll take your mind off
the pain. And the third one is face yourself. Don't
get offended when sat old ladies pass you.

Speaker 10 (01:50:57):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
Okay, thank thank you so much. I'll write those ones down. Yeah.
I mean that's the thing. Not getting out the gates
too fast. That's because you want to want to start
off slow in.

Speaker 3 (01:51:06):
Fast yep, yep, start like a lamb, in like a lion. Yeah,
that's someone takes through.

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
Yeah, yeah absolutely. Oh man, Hey, thank you so much
for all your lovely texts of support and also your
abuse and the promises of abuse if I don't do it. Yeah,
And I'm going to be thinking about those texts on
nine two and two saying that you're going to rip
me and humiliate me and abuse me next week if
I don't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:28):
Out of all the tips that came through, I think
that's the one that is going to get your home.

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
Maruph and Carrie saying that you know, yeah that was
good too. I'll be thinking about her and Neva while
I'm running as well. I'll print that off for you.

Speaker 3 (01:51:38):
Yeah yeah, but go well mate, right, we're going to
wrap this all up very shortly.

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
Stand by, we'll be back very very soon. It is
eight minutes to four.

Speaker 1 (01:51:47):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
It'd be well that brings us the end of the week.
Thank you so much for listening. Everyone loved our chats today.
It's been a great old time.

Speaker 3 (01:52:03):
Absolutely, and we get so many great keywis ringing into
the show that we pick a caller of the week
each week, and this week we were discussing where the
billionaires should exist and had a great call from a
young guy called Matt, who thought we just needed to
put some things into perspective when we demonize those who
have been incredibly successful.

Speaker 27 (01:52:17):
I'm not a wealthy person, but I'm not gonna say, oh,
look at that rich guy, I should have some of
his money, like I just don't see it like that.
I was raised in West Africa, so you are living
someone else's dream, I promise you, man. And if you
want to wake up in the morning and forget that
and just be a bitter, twisted, upset person.

Speaker 23 (01:52:38):
I can't.

Speaker 27 (01:52:39):
I can't anymore. I personally wake up in this country
every day and I'm really, really, really rich.

Speaker 7 (01:52:46):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
What hiosophy. Yeah, what a great call from a good man. Hey,
the great and powerful Heather, Do see Allen is up next.
But Tyler, my good buddy, tell me why am I
playing this song?

Speaker 3 (01:52:56):
Oh by the great Cindye Law for is this money
changes everything?

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
It is?

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
Ah, yes, because we had that fantastic chat about fifty
five million buckaroos must when Jack Bart sat today.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
One's going to win fifty five million this weekend and
that money is going to change everything. Well, I'm running
a marathon, as we've been talking, this weekend in Queenstown.
So if anyone's got any fare thoughts and prayers for
me yep, then yeah, father my way blood, you need
them one day tomorrow morning.

Speaker 3 (01:53:25):
Meet him at the finish line. Give a heaps, mate,
go well, I know you'll smash it. I'll be watching
them from the company of my couch.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
Yep. Yeah, but it's going to be awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:53:32):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
That's maybe the last twenty four hours that I can
still walk. Have a great weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
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