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January 12, 2025 • 56 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
For cancer treatment. Most prefer effective, non invasive, well tolerated,
outpatient therapy. That's doctor Liederman, the radio surgery pioneer's goal too.
Doctor Liederman is first in America, first in New York,
First for you with body radiosurgery. Doctor Liderman hits your
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(00:32):
from head to toe cancer treatment with possibly a second
chance for you even if chemo radiation or surgery didn't
work or isn't tolerated. Goals are your best results and
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(00:54):
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Speaker 3 (01:09):
It's Doctor Leaderman with Carrie Stubbs, who sings and writes
about his cancer treatment.

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(01:35):
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Speaker 5 (02:19):
Welcome everybody. It's the Radio Surgery Show with Doctor Gil Leiderman, MD,
New York's only Harvard trained triple Board certified radiation oncologist
who brings you the latest cancer treatment news, interviewing world
renowned cancer experts, delving to special cases, and of course
answering your questions. I'm Rob Redstone, broadcasting from the WR

(02:42):
Studios in the heart of New York City, and now
please welcome doctor Leaderman.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Hello, and nice to be with you. That was Rob introducing,
and this is Noah who's running the program. My name
is doctor Liederman, and I'm happy to be with you.
Who's tuned in today and you can tune in every
day to learn about how to live better, how to
avoid the pitfalls of medicine, what's really behind those ivory towers,

(03:11):
how people fare in hospitals and clinics and cancer centers,
and in our own office, people from around the world
who seek hopefully better care. Here, we're going to talk
about it. And that's what we do every day on
the radio. We are on the radio every day, sometimes
many times on the radio. Why to educate. We're not

(03:31):
selling anything. So you can put your wallet aside, you
can put your credit cards aside, and just listen and
learn and you'll probably learn a lot, just like a
medical student learns going to medical school. For the first day,
or maybe if you're a regular listener, maybe you've graduated
to the sophomore or junior class already. So this is
doctor Liederman Radio starting York. What do I do? I'm

(03:53):
a cancer doctor and I see people with cancer, of course,
but I also see people who come to me want
to know if they have can So many people come
and want to have a checkup. For example, in the
black community, one in six black men have prostate cancer
in their lifetime, and it looks at huge numbers are
in the same similar numbers of women with breast cancer.

(04:15):
So you're talking about huge numbers of people who have cancer.
And we know if we detect cancer early, the prognosis
is better. Why is that. Whether there's something called a
staging system. The staging system tells one tells you and
me and doctors, and we can communicate with that staging system.
It's a uniform system to say how much cancer do

(04:35):
you have in your body? Is at stage one or two,
or three or four? And then there's subtypes of those one, two, three, four,
and so doctors can communicate. You can call me up
and say, hey, doctor, I have stage three pancreas cancer.
I have stage four prostate cancer, and we know a lot.
Of course, I don't accept that only I want to

(04:58):
for patients who want my opinion. I expect to see
the patient with medical records in their hand. And doctors
and patients have known for hundreds of years it's always
best to meet in person. So today is a special day.
We have been dealing with a patient who's kind of
a VIP. All of our patients in factor VIP. That's
how we treat our patients. This man came to us

(05:21):
at age ninety five, and he knew me through the grapevine.
He knew me through the family connections. But he's not
a family member. He's a businessman, an entrepreneur. He owned
a farm, he owned an egg business. He is now
today's ninety sixth birthday. So it's a special VIP day
for him and for all of us who want to

(05:43):
share in what has happened to him. So let me
give you a brief synopsis. He's ninety six years old.
He came to us months ago. Months ago, he came
to us with a mass in the kidney. Now he's
been seeing a urologist. A urologist is a doctor who
operates on the urinary system, like removes the prostate and
bladder and kidneys. So he's a doctor who deals with

(06:07):
and specializes in surgery of the urinary system. And that's
anywhere from the kidneys which make urine down the uriners
which pass the urine to the bladder, the bladder urethra,
and of course, and then it gets a little different
in men and women. Men have certain organs like a prostate.
Women don't. But there's a lot of similarities. Whatever, there

(06:27):
isn't a man, there isn't a woman analogously, so this
man came to me, and he's been followed by a
urologist who's a surgeon who operates on the urinary system,
and a nephrologist. A nephrologist, they're similar. Nef means kidneys
and Latin an ologists is one who studies, so urologist
is the urinary system one who studies but cutting, and

(06:51):
nephrologist is one who gives medicines generally. So this man's
been seeing nephrologists and urologists in a neighboring state years
ten to twenty years. He reports to me, and he's
got a loving family. He's got a son who owns
a restaurant, and they're keen people and they know what's
going on. Accept accept So about six months ago they

(07:16):
called me up and said, hey, this our dad has
something really bad going on in the kidney, and no
one's taking care of it. And it's been look like
it's been there for ten years and getting bigger and
bigger and bigger and worse and worse and worse. And
so he came to us with this mass and the
kidney which was never biopsy. Even though he was seeing

(07:36):
two specialists of the urinary system, the prologist gurologists, he
had never been told that he had a mass in
the kidney. He never had a biopsy, he never had
treatment options. And he came to us, and I took
kind of the bow by the horn and we examined him.
And this is a situation where if you've just been
told on a phone call his dad's got something wrong
with the kidney, you wouldn't know anything, You wouldn't know

(07:58):
what to say. But I insisted that he come, and
he came with all his records. We examined him, and indeed,
there was a mass in the kidney that's been growing, growing, growing,
getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and no one's ever
done anything about it, no one's even told him. So
I examined him. We checked him from top to bottom.
We found his PSA was one hundred. PSA has sprestotic

(08:20):
specific antigen. It's a blood test to give us an
idea if a person has a risk of having prostate cancer.
Normal PSA is four. His was one hundred, which means
almost certainly he has prostate cancer. And then, of course
he had this mass in the kidney, and he came
to us and Pellmel. We worked him up. We worked

(08:41):
them up within the early hours, and we found that
he had a growing mass in the kidney. He had
a large mass in the prostate. In fact, the prostate
mass a separate cancer, a separate disease. We had two
separate cancers when this kidney cancer, which we buy ups
with a little needle, non invasively easy just or minimally invasive,

(09:03):
with a little needle, painlessly in minutes and found yes,
he had the kidney cancer which had been growing, growing,
growing for years, and no one told him about it.
And many people die of kidney cancer, of course, especially untreated.
And then we biopsied the prostate the prostagt also was
a very aggressive cancer, a high gleas and score with
a PSA of a hundred. And we staged him up

(09:25):
like I talked about a few minutes ago, what is
his stage or extent of the cancer. And he had
staged four cancer. So his doctors too specialists, and he
thought die. He was in great shape. We was seeing
a nephrologist, a eurologist. Everything must be a okay. In fact,
everything was a disaster. He had a kidney cancer now
biopsy proven for the first time, even thought a mass

(09:45):
there for years, a prostate cancer psa one hundred, even
though he's been seeing a urologist, nephrologist, and the cancer traveled.
And one more thing, one more thing, that is when
we did blood tests on him, not only found his
was one hundred, but he was in kidney failure. The
doctors were giving him medicine, water pills or diuretics to

(10:06):
dry him out, and they dried him out so much
that they caused a kidney failure. And he was in
severe kidney failure when he came and saw me. Wow,
so wow, what more could be? What more could be
going on? This man? Well, I'll tell you what could
be going on this man. I arranged a car to
pick him up and take him to radiology to get
the biopsy of the kidney, to get the scans, and

(10:28):
I asked him, do you want to walk up the
stairs or take the elevator? And he said, Doc, I
played tennis an hour every day. I'm going to walk
up the stairs with you. And he walked up the
stairs and we went on the street corner to wait
for the car to pick him up, and he collapsed.
He had a cardiac arrest. Next to him, he had
a cardiac arrest, and on the corner of thirty eighth
in Broadway, And you might have been walking by and
seeing me on my knees resuscitating this man ninety five

(10:50):
years old with kidney cancer, prostate cancer, and now we
found out that he had severe heart disease, severe aortic
stenosis requiring a valve replacement. All in the same man.
And he'd been seen by all these doctors for years
and everyone told him he was ay, okay, So where
is he now? On his birthday a few months later, Well,

(11:10):
he's had a cardiac valve replace so he can start
breathing and exercising again. We buy upseed and treated the
kidney cancer with radio surgery, non invasive treatment with thousands
of beams, and we have very high success rate treating
kidney cancers without removing the kidney. And I can tell you,
I see so many people are so upset because they

(11:32):
come to me and they've had their kidney removed, and
they're telling me about it, and they say, oh, their
doctors said you had to remove the kidney or part
of the kidney. Often doctors say I'm going to remove
part of the kidney, and most commonly they remove the
whole kidney. And this man, these patients who tell me
that almost never actually never tell me whether doctors said, hey,

(11:55):
I can remove your kidney for kidney cancer, or you
can see doctor Liederman who's been performing radio surgery for
kidney and other cancers, first in America, first in the
Western Hemisphere, and he's performed forty thousand treatments with high
success without damaging the kidney, without destroying the kidney, without
removing the kidney. And I can tell you patients with

(12:16):
kidney cancers, in my experience has only been forty years,
are never been told hey, I can remove your kidney,
or you can go see doctor Liederman and have non
invasive treatment. I can tell you it's so common when
patients see me, they are so upset if they've already
had part of their kidney removed. I can tell you
something else. When we deal with masses in the kidney,

(12:37):
we like to get biopsies because about ten percent of
the time the mass that looks like cancer isn't even cancer,
even though the eurologist wants to cut out the kidney.
So about ten percent of the time we save the
patient the headache of having kidney cancer just by putting
a little needle in the kidney like I've described in
this man. And then for the prostate, well, we've treated
his prostate cancer now also, and he's now in remission

(13:01):
from both the prostate and the kidney cancer, just by
coming on a fluke. His family, who knew I existed,
asked if I would see him. And today he celebrates
his ninety sixth birthday, and he told me he fills
like a million bucks and he's carrying on. He's having
a big party with his family and loved ones, and

(13:22):
we here at Radio Serge New York called him on
his birthday to wish him well, to wish him he
should live to be one hundred and twenty. And he
is so happy that he came here and was diagnosed
with actually three diseases, kidney cancer, prostate cancer, not to
mention the kidney failure, which we remedied as well, and

(13:43):
his kidneys are now back to normal, and diagnosed him
with a heart disease with a valve replacement almost minimally invasive,
and now his heart is working, his kidney is working,
and his kidney and his prostate are treated under control,
without surgery, without chemo, without cutting, without bleeding. And this

(14:03):
is the work that we do every day at thirteen
eighty four Broadway. And on the phone today he said, Doc,
he said, Doc, he's telling me and my son, we
both were involved in his care. Ariel Liederman, who's fantastic
doctor board certified here at thirteen eighty four Broadway. He said,
the two of you are such gems, your diamonds. And
this is how he likes it. He said, I've had

(14:25):
decades of experience elsewhere, and I've never had such care
loving care as here at Radiosurgery, New York. So he
wished him well, he should live to one hundred and
twenty in good health and then celebrate many, many, many
more birthdays. Like every patient we deal with, every patient,
we work hard to try to provide options, and sometimes

(14:48):
it seems like so many doctors just are trying to
push the treatment that they do rather than inform the
patient of all the options. And probably those other doctors
who saw this man at ninety five, then ninety five,
then ninety six today probably said, oh, he's too old
for this, he's too old for that, he's too old,
Or move his kidney, he's too old. Let's let him

(15:09):
die in peace. No, he wants to live, and we
want our patients to live too. Working with the patient,
and so it's so different. His experience over a lifetime
was changed just by a visit at thirteen eighty four
Broadway Radio Surgery, New York, the home of radio surgery
in the Western Hemisphere, first in the Western Hemisphere, of course,

(15:31):
first in America, first in New York, with forty thousand
patients treated over decades. My name is doctor Liederman. Call
us if you have questions, two and two choices, we'll
be right back.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when surgery
didn't help and toxic chemo stopped working. Many come in pain.
Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when their
caregiver has no more care to offer. Doctor Liederman bringing
innovative cancer care for decades. When the next cancer drug
is not as promised, when surgery was to fail to pass,

(16:04):
we may be able to offer you new cancer treatment options.
We treat new and recurrent cancers, small or large, most
anywhere in the body, even if prior chemo, radiation or
surgery didn't work. Call doctor Liederman two and two choices
two and two choices for a free booklet DVD thirty
eighth and Broadway. Most insurances Medicare, Medicaid accepted. Harvard trained,

(16:28):
Triple Board certified Doctor Liederman two and two choices, two
and two choices for innovative cancer treatment. Best is to
meet doctor Liederman in person. Call two and two choices
two and two choices.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
It's doctor Liederman with guy talking about skin cancer treatment options.

Speaker 7 (16:46):
You treated me. I had basil cell onto my cheek.
A buddy of mine went through the same thing that
looked like they went out of him with a melon baller.
This was on my face. I don't want any caring.
I think I'm kind of handsome. I wanted to keep
it that way.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
So you are hats and we're going to Olympics. Usual
in America, there's three million skin cancers a year. Ninety
nine percent of people were let down the Primrose path
to have radical mos surgery for their skin cancer. Why
are you different.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
From hearing what you report? You know, hey, you don't
need to get radical deforming. Come and see what we
could do. I have a lot of trust in what
I've seen and what I heard, and the treatments were
very simple.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
If Miss America comes up to here right now, what would
you think about the results of your skin.

Speaker 7 (17:22):
She would be able to keep your hands off. There
is zero indication it was ever there. You know, I
don't know that I got the chance to say, hey, thanks,
doctor Leadman. I tell anybody who's going down the same path,
doctor Leiderman did the absolute perfect thing. That's where you
should go.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Any regrets, not at all. Call doctor Leederman at two
and two Choices thirteen to eighty four Broadway. Most insurances Medicare,
Medicaid accepted.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Liederman at the wr studios
in the hearts of New York City were just a
few steps from the radio surgery in New York Cancer
Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman,
the leading cancer expert treat prostate cancer not in Basically,
he's the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,

(18:03):
and he's the first in America and in the Western
Hemisphere with body radiosurgery. You can also call doctor Liderman
at two and two choices for a free informative booklet
and DVD. Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
We are back, and we have a kind of a
bookend case. I want to talk about this man. He's
sixty two years old, he's married. He came with the
history of kidney cancer, was diagnosed several years before. He
had weight loss and he was told he had an
aggressive cancer. He had weakness, dizziness, and he went to
a super duper pooper doctor and a super duper hospital

(18:37):
with kidney cancer. And guess what they did. Take one.
Guess what they did at super duper General with super
duper surgeon. Guess what they did, Yes, that is correct.
They cut out his kidney. They cut out his kidney,
even though he had already had cancer that traveled to
his left and right long and his liver. They cut

(18:58):
out his kidney. Wow, what good does it do to
cut out your kidney when you have metastatic cancer. When
the surgeon tells you, oh, you have to remove the kidney,
even though he never told the patient about other options. Well,
the patient then had his kidney cut out at super
pooper duper General by super duper doctor. And then they

(19:19):
started him on years of chemotherapy, chemo chemo, chemo and immunotherapy.
And we know that chemo nemotherapy isn't so hot for
kidney cancer. Actually it's not so hot for most cancers,
especially stage four. Well, they gave him the he didn't
give him actually paid through the nose the highest rates anywhere.

(19:40):
Kidney was removed, had years of chemo, years of aemunotherapy.
Nothing worked, and he came to me. He came to
me actually three years ago with kidney cancer, traveled to
the liver and lungs, it, had chemo amunotherapy, had his
kidney removed, and he he just fed up with it.

(20:01):
He was totally fed up with it. And three years
ago he came to me and we had a large
mass of kidney cancer in the liver, and he asked
if there's any options for him, and I said, yes,
there's options. Of course, there's options. We could offer all
the options you want, and we do for every patient,
which is so different than it seems like most doctors,

(20:21):
not all doctors, but most doctors who often have an agenda.
We don't have an agenda except to educate our patients.
And you'll see signs on our wall and our booklets
talk about all the options local, regional, systemic, chemo surgery, immunotherapy, hospice,
no treatment, various forms of radiation. And he chose radio
surgery for his cancer that traveled to the liver three

(20:45):
years ago. So he had the kidney removed, had years
of systemic therapy didn't work. Was paying two hundred thousand
dollars a year for chemo ammunotherapy, didn't work. Came to
us for non invasive treatment for his kidney cancer. We
treated him three years ago, and then he got lost.

(21:05):
I asked to see him back. I ask every patient
I see you know, it's always best to meet in
person to review what happened to you, and remember you
have other cancers too. Well, he got lost and now
he reappears and he's so angry. He is so so angry.
Why is he angry? Well, he went back to the
doctors at super Pooper General and he told him how

(21:29):
he had radiosurgery for his cancer spread to the from
the kidney to the liver. And they got so angry.
How can you have radiosurgery for cancer and the liver.
Don't you know you need to have chemotherapy for stage
four cancer nothing else works. And he told me he
had two more years of chemotherapy mino therapy. He'd already

(21:52):
had two years before he came to me for the
cancer the liver. Then after we treated him, he went
back and he had two more years of chemo ontomal
therapy and nothing worked. Remember the average chemo on emal
therapy is about one hundred to two hundred thousand dollars
a year. And people say, oh, don't worry, I don't pay.
My insurance pays. Well, in fact, everyone pays. Why do

(22:13):
you think our premiums have doubled in the last ten years,
And they've doubled since the beginning of Obamacare, they've doubled.
And yes, we all pay. Maybe you don't see yourself
paying two hundred thousand dollars, but we're all paying. You
were paying, your friends are paying, your relatives are paying,
your neighbors are paying. And by making healthcare so expensive,

(22:35):
it harms all of us. So now he's here. He's
had four years of chemo in ammune therapy, he had
kidney removed at super Duper generally, had four years of
chemomal therapy at super Duper. Only once did he come
for us for treatment of his liver, three years ago.
And now it comes back to me in a huff
and a puff that the cancer's growing all over the

(22:57):
body except for one place. So guess the only place
where his cancer is not growing. Take a guess. That's
right in the liver. The only place that the cancer
has gone away is in the liver. They've had four
years of chemotherapy and miuo therapy for kidney cancer stage four.

(23:18):
It's traveled everywhere. It's getting worse everywhere everywhere except where
we treated him. And he went back to super Duper General.
He said, doctor, why do you give me four years
of chemo immunotherapy? It cost a half a million dollars
and the only treatment that worked. Is doctor Liederman's treatment.
Why didn't you respect doctor Liederman's treatment? And why do

(23:40):
you tell me, oh, doctor Liderman's treatment doesn't work. Why
do you tell me I have to have chemo? My fact,
I've had four years of chemo immunotherapy at high costs
and high toxicity. And most people have chemo. I have
damage to the bone marrow, A lot of people have
damage to the nerves. It's called neuropathy in the hands
and the feet. Some people lose their hair and lose
their body and other side effects as well. Because chemo

(24:02):
anymore therapy go throughout the body. It's not limited, unlike radiosurgery,
which is pinpoint treatment. And this man is so upset,
so upset that he's now got multiple nodules in the chest,
all cancer, all growing. That chemotherapy not only did it
not stop, but it allowed to progress and it's been
progressing for years. Just the opposite of what he's told.

(24:25):
He was told, oh, you have to have chemo because
it goes all over. Well, part of it is true.
Chemo does go all over. The problem is it doesn't
work very well. And even if it works well for
most cancers, not all cancers. But for most cancers, even
if it works for a few weeks or months, there's
side effects for most and then the cancer grows back.
Nearly one hundred percent of the time the cancer for

(24:46):
stage four cancer like this man has, the cancer grows back.
And he's so upset that he didn't go with his
gut feeling years ago and continue on the radio surgery
the only treatment that worked, and now we're treating him
for the multiple cancers in the chest and the media steynum.
The islum, he said, are lymphodes in the chest area

(25:06):
and the center of the chest. The center the chest
is called the media stegn them and there's lymphodes in
the center of the chest and the highland which are
kind of the doors to the right and left lungs.
And this is the work that we do every day.
We make a stereotype to frame, we send in beams
from thousands of angles. And he's had the treatment for
multiple cancers. Unlike with chemo, which is endless and nearly useless,

(25:28):
with us, there's a short course of treatment, non invasive
invisible beams. You walk in and get a treatment and
turn around, walk out, go to have lunch, go to work,
go with your family, do the things you want to
do without the effects throughout the entire body. So now
he is so happy he's come back here. He's so
happy he found doctor Liederman again. Even though he found

(25:49):
us three years ago, he just didn't have the wherewithal
to stick with us until until he realized that four
years of chemo was useless, expend intoxic. And this is
the work that we do every day at thirteen eighty
four Broadway. This is the work. This is the reason
why people from around the world come to RADIOSIRTA New

(26:11):
York thirteen eighty four Broadway Broadway in thirty eighth Street
in the heart of New York City, which is so
easy to get to in these days. It's so easy
to travel to us because there's fifteen subway lines that
come to us one, two, three, four, five, six, ACE,
and QRBDFM, seven, S and Q all the buses. There's

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hundreds of buses that come into the Times Square area,
the bus that go from inner city interstate buses to
Port Authority. Port Authority is the biggest bus station in
the world with thousands of people coming. And then you
have Grand Central and Penn Station, two of the biggest
train stations in New York, one biggest by number of people,

(26:55):
one biggest by number of trains. So you've got huge
transportation a bill at a small cost that gets you
right to our neighborhood. And that's why we built our
office in the heart of New York City at thirteen
eighty four Broadway Broadway in thirty eighth Street, in the
heart of New York City. So we're here for you.
If you want information about our special work, you can

(27:15):
check our website, which is RSNY dot org RSNY dot org.
You can call me. You can call our office at
two and two choices. You can call day or night
to get information or make an appointment if we have
a question. It's always best to meet in person. We
don't believe in zoom and gloom and doom. It's easy

(27:38):
for the doctor, but it's lousy for the patient. Patients
and doctors have known for hundreds of years it's best
to meet in person where we can talk. I can
examine the patient, I can review the records, I can
discuss back and forth eye to eye, which is so
different than zoom and gloom. This is the work we
do at thirteen eighty four Broadway Broadway thirty eighth Street

(28:00):
in the heart of New York City. And there's one
more thing I want to tell you, and that is
that we're live on the radio and you can call
right now if you wish, if you have a questions.
So many people say, oh, doctor Liederman, want to talk
about X y Z. Well call now. One eight hundred
three two one zero seven ten. One eight hundred three
two one zero seven ten. We're live on the radio
from now till noon, and of course we'll be back

(28:23):
from one to two today and then every night we
are on the radio at midnight and many people like
to listen to doctor Liederman at midnight around the world.
By the way you can listen around the world, can
tune in the station live broadcast. And then we'll be
back every Saturday Saturday. We have a new program at
eleven am, one pm, three pm, and five pm every

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Saturday here on wr So give us a call one
eight hundred three two one zero seven ten. One eight
hundred three two one zero seven ten now till noon.
We'll be back from one on to two today. Every
Saturday a new show at eleven till noon and then
one to two, three to four, five to six, and

(29:07):
every night at midnight and then all night Saturday night
going into Sunday morning. My name is doctor Liederman. We'll
be right back.

Speaker 8 (29:15):
It's Johnny Bragg's talking prostate cancer. Twenty years ago. I
came to doctor Liederman with prostate cancer. It was serious.
My stepfather died days after prostate surgery. My uncle never
recovered from prostate surgery. I came to doctor Leederman with
prostate cancer and high PSA. Doctor Liederman explained all options,

(29:36):
shared his and comparison results. I trusted doctor Liederman twenty
years ago. Today I trust doctor Leederman even more. My
prostate cancer is gone, my PSA is zero, my quality
of life is great. You can trust doctor Leederman too.
Like me for over twenty years, called doctor Liederman for

(29:57):
prostate cancer. Two one two choice. That's two on two choices.
Thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eighth Street in Manhattan.
Most insurance, Medicare, Medicaid accepted. Call doctor Leederman two and
two choices.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
It's doctor Leederman with Calvin West singing and writing about
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Speaker 5 (31:11):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Leiderman at the w R
Studios in the hearts of New York City. We're just
a few steps from the Radio Surgery New York Cancer
Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman,
the leading cancer expert, treats prostate cancer not invasively. He
was the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,

(31:32):
and he's the first in America and in the Western
Hemisphere with body radio surgery. You can also call doctor
Liederman at two and two choices for a free informative
booklet and DVD. Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
We are back. I just want to introduce myself because
so many people talk on the radio and in life
and you don't really know who they are. And offen
your shamed or bashful to say, hey, who are you?
Who are you to talk about cancer? What's your experience?
And when someone says, well Aunt Tilly had this or
Uncle Bob had that, it's not really a scientific thing.

(32:05):
And maybe yet it's the expression of their hopes and
thoughts and experiences. But I've continue. I've treated forty thousand patients,
probably more than most anyone else. I've been a doctor
for nearly fifty years. I have a lot of experience.
I go to work every day and I see patients,
and I want to tell you a bit about myself
so you can at least know who's on the other

(32:26):
side of the radio. I was born and raised in Waterloo, Iowa,
where I was just a few days ago my hometown.
I went to public school, I went to university. I
went to medical school. I'm MD at twenty five, like
my brother Ted MD, real medical doctor at twenty five,
and like doctor Ariel Leaderman, my son, who's fantastic doctor

(32:49):
MD at twenty five. To three real medical doctors MD
at twenty five, which probably never heard of such a
thing before. Well, yes, there's three doctor leaders, all mds
at twenty five Ariel Leaderman works here at thirteen y
four Broadway. Is a very smart, very compulsive, very caring doctor,

(33:10):
loved by patients and families and staff and all around
him because he's so meticulous and caring and thoughtful and
complete and has trained at major universities and hospitals across
the nation and is here. And you're lucky to have
doctor Ariel Leaderman care for you if you wish, and
of course he accept most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid. You can

(33:31):
call and make an appointment if you want or not.
Whatever you want, that's up to you. Our number is
two and two choices if you want an appointment or
if you want information. I, at age twenty five, went
on after MD to University of Chicago Michael Reese trained
at internal Medicine for years. Took care of thousands of
patients with medical and other illnesses. Board certified in internal medicine.

(33:54):
Then went on to Harvard Medical School, trained at the
prestigious Dana Farberg Ancer Institute for years. I took care
of thousands of patients in Boston, board certified, then't stayed
on the staff at Harvard Medical School and then went
on at Harvard Medical School at the Joint Center for
Radiation Therapy, which is a radiation program of five major

(34:14):
Harvard hospitals, taken care of and training in radiation oncology,
treating thousands of patients. The only Harvard trained Triple Board
certified radiation doctor in New York and one of the
few in the world. Here for you if you want.
And this is what we do. And we're the first
of course with brain radio surgery, which is pinpoint treatment

(34:37):
for cancers of the brain and brain tumors. We treat
cancers of the brain, like cancers to travel to the brain,
like kidney cancer and breast cancer and kidney cancer and
lung cancers, and like we also take care of primary
cancers of the brain like leo blastomas, national cytomas. We
also take care of benign tumors of the brain. So

(34:57):
there are benign tumors like pituitary tumors and acoustic neuromasm
and ingeomas with high success rate with no cutting and
no bleeding. So there's lots of reasons people come to
us for brain cancers and brain tumors, and of course
there's many many more cancers of the body. And we're
the first in America with non invasive treatment radio surgery,

(35:20):
which is what we've been talking about for the last
half hour. Radio surgery is pinpoint treatment. There's no surgery involved.
It's a misnomer to use the radiation beam as if
it was surgery. That's what we do. We're the first
in America and treated forty thousand patients, so huge numbers.
Patients have come here over years with high success. And

(35:43):
we've been talking about some of those patients, and you
hear some of them on the radio, like Johnny Braggs
who was treated twenty years ago, and you'll hear about
other patients too. So this is the work we do.
If you have questions, you're welcome to call us at
two one to choices, to one to choices, and we
named our telephone line two and two choices because people

(36:06):
do have choices. Just because you have breast cancer doesn't
mean you have to have surgery remove the breast. Just
because you have kidney cancer or a lung cancer, a
bankage cancer doesn't mean you have to have surgeon to
cut it out. And often you see the cutting out
is devastating. For example, with prostate cancer, which affects two
hundred thousand men a year. Cutting out the prostate will

(36:27):
cause impotence in about ninety seven percent, leakage of the
urine in about eighty percent, because the surgery removing or
cutting out the prostate leads to damage to the nerves.
And also when they cut out the urethral, the urethra
is a passageway. So just like when a plumber cuts
out part of a pipe, they have to bring the
ends together, which then shortens the pipe. When the neurologist

(36:50):
cuts out the prostate, their surgery takes away sexual function
in the most men. Ninety seven percent damage is urine control.
There's leakage of urine, insurance, and penis so these are
things that most men don't like. And furthermore, if you
look at comparison data with the best surgeon in America
versus our results, you'll see superior results. Not the surgeon

(37:13):
down the street, but the best surgeon in America. You'll
find better results here with non invasive treatment. And this
is the work that we do every day. At thirteen
eighty for Broadway Broadway in thirty eighth Street, in the
heart of New York City, we have Tony on theline.

Speaker 10 (37:32):
Hello Tony, Yes, Hello, doctor Lieedman.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Can you hear me? I hear you. What's your question today?

Speaker 10 (37:37):
My question is, is this after the ionizing radiation kills
the cancer cells.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
In god willing, God willing, it kills the cancer cells?

Speaker 8 (37:46):
Right?

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Not really? Well, I hope. So nothing's one hundred percent, right,
there's nothing one hundred percent in medicine. Our success right
when we treat a cancer's lung cancer, pancras it's about
ninety percent. So hopefully, hopefully the patient we treat is
in the nine twenty percent range. Not everyone treated in
medicine is one hundred percent. Right.

Speaker 10 (38:05):
No, I know it's not one hundred percent, but I'm
saying whatever, whatever cancer cells are killed, right, Okay, My
question is are are those are those dead cells? Okay,
we know it's not one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Your question is it dead? Is a dead cancer cell? Debt?
Is that your question?

Speaker 10 (38:23):
No, my cancer cell is whether or not those cancer
cells are eliminated over time from the body.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah of course.

Speaker 10 (38:31):
Okay, So on an ensuing MRI, those cells couldn't be misinterpreted.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Okay, no, excuse me, excuse me. An MRI is just
a picture, right, It's a picture. So let's say we
treat the prostate or breast cancer or lung cancer. We
treat it. And that's to say we've done this. Actually,
so I've treated nine thousand men with prostate cancer, and
a substantial number of those in the early years, we
actually repeated the biopsy. So these are all men that

(39:00):
had prostate biopsies we then treated them. Okay, So guess
what percent of men had no cancer seen in the
biopsy after our treatment. Ninety eight percent. Okay, so ninety
eight percent of the time there's no cancer, for example,
and men that we treat for prostate cancer. Every cancer

(39:20):
is different. I'm talking about prostate cancer. Overall, it's ninety percent.
So what's your other question?

Speaker 10 (39:26):
Okay? My other question is this. If a person gets
a pet scan, let's say for his his her colon, okay,
and it shows up exactly you know where the where
the cancer is okay, in the colon, does that preclude
getting a colonoscopy.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
No, that's totally different tests, totally different tests. Colonoscopy is
a direct visualization and there's so many mistakes about colonoscopy.
So many people ask them to I ask everyone, actually,
have you had colonoscopy? Every patient it comes to me
I ask about that, and so many people think. For example,
colia guard, which is a test looking for blood, is
the same as colonoscopy, So looking for blood is totally different.

(40:13):
You can have a colon cancer, it's not bleeding and
so your your coli guard test is normal. But you
do colonoscopy you see a mass there, So they're not
the same. Every test has its own characteristics. A PET
scans characteristics, and a PET scan to see cancer. Number one,
you have to have a mass of cancer at least
a centimeter in general, so you can have a massive

(40:34):
cancer's a half a centimeter. The PET scan won't pick
it up. So pet scan looks for pickup of radioactive sugar,
coli guard looks for blood, and colonoscopy actually looks directly
on for the cancer. They're totally different tests.

Speaker 10 (40:50):
Okay, those are my questions for today.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Thank you very much, Thank you God, BLESSA and I
hope you live to be one hundred and twenty. Thank
you very much, Doc, I thank you for recall. I
want to talk about a woman who's eighty six years old.
This is a teacher. She's very spry, she's single, she
has a child. Her daughter has breast cancer, and she
comes to me like two months ago with a breast
cancer suspicion in her right breast. She has a mass

(41:13):
by the nippo. She had had mammograms elsewhere but no biopsy.
So this is kind of like the question that Tony
asked me. Here she has a mass that she feels
she never had a biopsy. She had a mammogram showing
a speculated lesion, but no biopsy, so it's suspicious, suspicious,
But then she came here with suspicion and a mass.

(41:35):
She's an X smoker. She's lost about fifteen pounds. She
was about one fifty she's now down to one thirty five.
She's five foot five, and she had an ultrasound of
the breast so at one point four sent meter. Her
mass in the right RETRORI older, so right behind the
nippo on the right side. She also had brain scans
and kidney scans for other reasons. Her breast cancer history

(41:59):
is strong. As a first degree relative. Her daughter had
breast cancer and I examined her, and she has this
mass right by the nippo one half centimeters in the
right breast, and her lymphodes are negative, her lungs are negative,
or supercloud nodes are negative, or abdomen's negative, her extremities
are negative. Very spry, active woman, eighty six years old,

(42:20):
and so we worked her up and did a biopsy,
did a tiny little biopsy, found the cancer in the breast.
Who got a PET scan, as I talked about with
Tony a minute ago, got a pet scan. Didn't show
any spread of the cancer, but it did pick up
the cancer in the armpit. This is a woman who's
eighty six years old. She's adamant against any surgery in

(42:40):
her breast. She has not want lumpectomy, mestectomy, she doesn't
want chemotherapy. She wants only radiosurgery. And we have a
long history of treating women who are adamant. There's many
many women who just don't want to do the routine thing,
don't want to do mestectomy, lumpeact to me, chemotherapy, they
don't want to get in the medical industrial mill of
so many places you can have that if you want.

(43:02):
Of course, that's one option. We talk about all the
options to everybody. This one worked as an actress. She's
writing a screenplay. She's very spry, very smart and is
now going through our treatment with no side effects. She
walks in every day. We send in pinpoint beams to
hit the cancer. She takes a few minutes, she gets
up and goes home to write her screenplay. And this

(43:24):
is what she likes. And so many women and men
love our treatment because it's so well tolerated and so
highly successful, like we're talking to Tony a minute ago,
and our success rate is exceedingly high for breast cancers,
with success and high quality of life. And we actually
have a booklet about breast cancer and you can see
examples of women that we've treated, some with early cancers,

(43:46):
some with very very advanced cancers. And you also can
get a DVD. You can call us a two and
two choices. If you have a breast issue, or if
you haven't had a mammogram and an ultrasound, you should
think about it. You should come in here and be
seen if you wish. Of course, everything is if you wish.
This is the work that we do. And this woman
is so happy to be here. She can't believe it

(44:08):
is so easy. And maybe she'll write a screenplay about
radiosurgery New York and radio surgery for her breast cancer.
My name is doctor Liederman. We'll be right back.

Speaker 8 (44:19):
Numbers mean much to me because of prostate cancer. I'm
Johnny Bragg's. The number two for my stepfather who died
of prostate cancer and my uncle who suffered so much
after prostate cancer surgery. The number fifteen fifteen years since
doctor Liederman's successful treatment of my prostate cancer. The number zero,
which is my PSA zero after doctor Liederman's successful prostate

(44:42):
cancer treatment. What every man wants. The number is one, two, three,
four important for every man with prostate cancer. One getting
the most successful treatment, two avoiding radical robotic surgery, three
keeping sexual function, four maintaining urinary control. Call my doctor
Liederman two and two choices. Two on two choices to

(45:03):
consider his prostate cancer treatment for you most insurances Medicare,
Medicaid accepted. Thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eighth Call
two on two choices for prostate cancer treatment. Called doctor
Liederman two one two choices. I'm glad I did. You'll
be number one with doctor Leiderman.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Speedy recovery for Defense chiefs secret prostate cancer surgery on
Christmas Eve, not informing even the President returned an ambulance
with pain, abscess, bow obstruction, secret turned disaster, sadly believed
is urologists. Like many with prostate cancer, radical prostate surgery
has many complications, leakage, impotence, shortening, inferior results, death. Thousands

(45:45):
come to doctor Liederman to learn all prostate cancer options
from New York's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified Radiation oncologist.
Defense Chief sadly believed Pie and Sky promises. Another reason
to meet doctor Liederman about highly effective prostate canace treatment
avoiding radical surgery. Best is to meet doctor Liederman. Call
doctor Liederman two and two choices, two and two choices,

(46:08):
thirteen eighty four Broadway in thirty eight. Most insurances Medicare,
Medicaid accepted. Call doctor Liederman two and two choices thirteen
eighty four Broadway at thirty eight. Call doctor Liederman, two
and two choices.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Leiderman at the WR Studios
in the hearts of New York City were just a
few steps from the Radio Surgery in New York Cancer
Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman
the leading cancer expert treat prostate cancer non invasively. He
was the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,

(46:40):
and he's the first in America and in the Western
Hemisphere with body radio surgery. You can also call doctor
Liederman at two and two Choices for a free informative
booklet and DVD. Hey doctor Liederman, We're back.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
We are back. I want to talk about a woman.
Amazing story. Amazing woman. I met her two years ago.
She was sent to me by one of the biggest
medical schools and universities in New York. She had applied
for a study about people with headaches, and they did
an MRI and they found a cancer in her brain.
And the doctors had the biggest, most famous medical school

(47:15):
medical center in New York City center to me for
treatment because they knew about our expertise in treating brain cancers.
And we worked her up and we found that she
had a cancer from the lung that traveled to the brain.
So this is a woman who she had gone for
a study, got an MRI, found cancer. Doctor super duper

(47:35):
General center to me because of our expertise treating brain
cancers non invasively. And two years ago I met with
her and her family and she actually had two tumors,
two cancers, biopsy proven. We checked out her lung. She
had a small cell cancer and she just was opposed
to any chemotherapy and she was treated with radio surgery

(47:57):
and has done great. It's now two years later, and
meanwhile she had this cancer and the lung, small cell cancer,
and small sell cancers usually cancer, it's very aggressive and
very fatal and very letho. And two years ago she
chose to have radio surgery only for the brain, and
then she chose to have radiosurgery for the cancer in

(48:18):
her lung, even though she had small cell cancer stage
four extensive. And of course I sent her to medical
oncology because I wanted her to have all the options.
We like all our patients to have all the options.
And this is a woman's spry and loving daughter was
with her all the time. Chose to have radio surgery
only for her small cell lung cancer. Lung cancer traveled

(48:40):
to the brain stage four. Treated more than two years ago,
cancer free, and we just checked her out again. And
people say, oh, doctor Liederman, you check your pace. Of course,
we check our patients on our regular basis and patients
call me two and two choices, and patients come in.
Patients get copies of their tests, and she's got copies
of all test showing the cancer in the brain, and

(49:02):
the cancer and the lung are all gone. You asked
about Tony, what happens to the cancers? You treat her
Cancer's all gone two years later for small cell cancer
stage four. What a result, incredible result. She's doing well.
She wasn't stuck with surgery on her brain and surgery
on her chest and years of chemotherapy. Only with our treatment.

(49:24):
And our treatment is just a few treatments, pinpoint treatments
taking minutes, focused with thousands of beams focused like star Wars,
remember Ronald Reagan Star Wars, sending beams from thousands of
angles to hit the cancer. And this is the work
we do, first in America, first in New York, with
brain radio surgery, body radio surgery, fraction of brain radio surgery.

(49:44):
This is the work we do. And I can tell
you that she and her daughter and her doctor are
so happy. She's in remission years after being diagnosed with
stage four small cell cancer of the lung spread to
the brain. Sent to us by one of the super
tuper biggest medical schools in Manhattan, with a doctor who

(50:07):
knew about our excellent results and innovative results and just
did not want his patient to be subjected to the
usual rigamaros of surgery and chemo. And she didn't want
it either. Quite frankly, she and her daughter are opposed
about that. This is the work we do every day
at thirteen eighty four Broadway Broadway in thirty eighth Street,

(50:28):
in the heart of New York City, where we accept
most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid. I have a man who's sixty
seven years old. He came to me Wow, ten years ago,
sixty seven years old. He had a mass in his chest,
in his left chest, he had a mass. He had
a biopsy. It was a schwanomer. It's a tumor of
the nerves, and he didn't know it. But we actually

(50:50):
have the largest experience treating vestibular schwanomers or acoustic neuromas,
which are tumors of the ear. One of the most
common sights for this rare disease is the ear, the
hearing nerve, and most people, sad to say, get surgery.
When they get surgery, they're most commonly left deaf and
very commonly because the seventh and eight nerve. These are

(51:10):
nerves that come off the brainstem. There's twelve nerves that
come off the brainstem on either side in the seventh
and eighth. The seventh is for the face, the eighth
is for the ear. When the surgeon cuts on those nerves,
they usually cause paralysis of the face and deafness of
the ear. Well, we have an extensive experience nearly forty
years treating acoustic neuroma's brain tumors, and now we took

(51:33):
that expertise to treat a schwanoma in the chest. He
had a mass in the chest. He saw surgeons in
a neighboring state at a super duper hospital neighboring state,
and they wanted to resect his chest. Well, they wanted
to cut out his breast and his ribs and his
rib muscles and his chest all the areas of his

(51:54):
right chest where his breast is. And I guess lucky
for him, ten years ago he came to doctor Liederman
and we talked about our experience with schwuan omas because
we have such a huge experience, I think more than
anywhere else. Forty thousand patients treated. We can dwell and
talk about our experience, a doctor's experience over a lifetime,

(52:17):
and this is the work we do. And we were
able to treat him non invasively without removing his breast,
his ribs, his rib muscles, part of his chest, deforming him.
We were able to do it with no cutting and
no bleeding, no anesthesia. He walked in. We make a
mold around the body, we computerized his body. We sent
thousands of beams in to treat him in minutes, and

(52:40):
now he has been in remission ever since. There's been
no recurrence, no surgery, no chemo, no cutting, no bleeding,
no nothing. Ten years later, and he is so happy
with this very rare tumor. And this is the work
we do with very high success. My name is doctor Liederman.

(53:02):
We have so much more to talk about. We'll be
back at one o'clock to talk, talk, talk more. We're
here on the radio many times every day. It's always
great to learn, it's always great to listen, and if
you have a medical question, it's the best to meet
in person. We accept most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid. We have
extensive experience, but it's about prostate cancer or bladder cancer.

(53:23):
I'm really hot to talk about a man with bladder cancer,
which we're going to talk about just in a few
minutes on our next program. There's so much to talk about,
so much to learn. So if you want second opinion,
or if you don't have cancer and just want to know, hey,
do I have cancer? There's three reasons why people come
and see doctor Liederman. One is to get checked out
do I have cancer? Number two, I've just been diagnosed

(53:46):
with cancer and I want a fresh second opinion because
I don't want unnecessary surgery or radiation or chemotherapy. I
want a fresh second opinion. And then number three people
who have been diagnosed and treated and the treatment just
didn't work like the amount I told you about with
the kidney cancer in four years of chemo useless.

Speaker 5 (54:07):
Thanks for tuning in to the Radio Surgery Hour with
doctor Gil Leiderman and myself. If you have questions before
next week's show or want a free informative booklet and DVD,
just contact doctor Liederman at two one two choices. That's
two one two two four six four two three seven.
That's two one two two four six four two three seven.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
For cancer treatment most prefer effective, non invasive, well tolerated
outpatient therapy. That's doctor Liederman, the radio surgery pioneer's goal too.
Doctor Liederman is first in America, first in New York,
First for you with body radiosurgery. Doctor Leader hits your
cancer with no cutting, no bleeding. Doctor Liederman has decades
of experience with primary and metastatic large or small cancers

(55:08):
from head to toe cancer treatment with possibly a second
chance for you. Meet doctor Leederman to hit the cancer.
He's New York's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation oncologist.
Call two one two choices, two one two choices to
meet doctor Liderman for a fresh second opinion. Most insurances, Medicare,
Medicaid accepted. Free booklet DVD two super convenient Broadway in

(55:31):
thirty eighth in Manhattan. Meet doctor Liderman to hit your cancer.
Call two one two choices, two one two choices.

Speaker 9 (55:37):
Did you know that you've got choices? That there can
be a bad way? Did you know that you've got choices?
Conductor Leader means a day two want too choice says
a much bad way too at choices Conductor thea doert

(56:03):
means today did you know that you've got choices. That
there can be a bad way.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Did you know that.

Speaker 9 (56:16):
You've got choices? Conductor, THEA dot means today to want
you choices a much bad way to want to choices, Conductor,
THEA don't.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Means today, Doctor Liederman, Cancer Treatment, thirteen eighty four, Broadway.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
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