1PM Dr. Lederman Discusses Various Treatments for Cancer

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Speaker 5 (02:19):
Welcome everybody. It's the Radio Surgery Show with Doctor Gil Leiderman, MD,
New York's only Harvard trained triple Board certified radiation oncologist
who brings you the latest cancer treatment news, interviewing world
renowned cancer experts, delving to special cases, and of course
answering your questions. I'm Rob Redstone, broadcasting from the WR

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Studios in the heart of New York City, and now
please welcome doctor Leaderman.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Thank you, Robin, thank you, Noah, thank you for tuning
in today and every day, every day we're on the radio,
and every day we learn together. Every day we try
to save lives and save the body that God gave you,
and try to keep you intact and try to educate.
We're not selling anything, so you can put your checkbook aside.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
We're only educating it.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Just like a student who goes to medical school, slowly, slowly,
they learn. Every day, they learn something about medicine and
life and the human body, and all of a sudden,
one day it all percolates and they're a doctor. And well,
we're not leading to be a doctor, but we're leading
to be educated. So if God forbid, something happens to
you or a loved one, or a neighbor or the
person down the street, you can say, hey, I heard

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about that, and I know that there are options that
you may not be hearing about from other doctors. And
we know when I was educated and still to this day,
when I see a patient, I talk about all the options.

Speaker 6 (03:45):
We talk about.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Local treatment, regional treatment, systemic therapy, combination therapy, multimodality therapy,
even no therapy. That's how I was trying. That's what
we're taught is a moral thing to do, and so
we talk about In cancer, we talk about about radiation
in various forms, and not all treatments are alike, and
it's really hard for people to understand that one treatment

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may be totally different. How a radiation beam is shaped,
the number of treatments, the dose, the effect, the biologic effectiveness,
whether it's given with another agent or not, whether it's
done before or after or never. Having surgery is a difference.
So there's huge differences, and we try to explain this
to every person who comes through. Or booklets and so

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on also emphasize big differences in treatment options. I know
it often seems like doctors push what they do themselves.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
The chemo doctor.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Seems like encourages or pushes chemo, and the surgeon seems
like pushes chemo and surgery or surgery, and we just
don't want to do that. We don't want to go
down that path. We want to talk about all the options,
treat people as they should be treated, to inform. That's
what I understand. The doctor should be a kind of
a teacher here on the radio. I'm a teacher on

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the radio, but in person, if you come in, we'll
talk about your situation, exactly what you have, and go
through your records and ask you questions about your health
and your body, and review a physical exam with you,
and then put together all the pieces of the puzzle.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
And this is.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
How we do it every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway.
At a patient last week, question, well, why do you
have to do different things? Why do you have to talk,
Why do you have to examine? Why do you do
blood tests? Why do if you do imaging? Why don't
you just do one thing and give me an answer?
I said, well, okay, if you remember back a while back,
there was a man named Luigi and apparently he shot,

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or is allegedly shot the CEO of a health insurance
plan in Manhattan, and apparently he was upset and he
was upset about insurance companies and Obviously there are people
who are upset, and there's people who love their insurance companies.
Luigi it seems like hated his insurance companies. But I

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can tell you so many people when I talk about
insurance companies, the first thing they say is, but my
insurance is fantastic. They do everything I want, and that
also is fantastic. But I just want to talk about
Luigi for a minute. And I'm not judging whether he's
guilty or not. But I told this patient, well, why
do we do physical exams and blood tests and imaging

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and history and all these pieces of a puzzle, just
like Sherlock Holmes would put together all the pieces. And
I said, well, just like when the New York City
police went after that crime scene, what do they do? Well,
they picked up a bottle of water and took it
up and checked it for fingerprints. There was a candy bar.
They picked up a candy bar wrapper and checked it

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for fingerprints. Then they ran through the alley where supposedly
the murderer ran, and they found a cell phone. They
paid up the cell phone, and then they went and
traced this person on There's something like one hundred thousand
video cameras in New York City to look at all
of us walking up and down the streets. And they

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were able to track this man let's call him Luigi.
If he is or isn't, I'm not a judge of that.
And they found that he was staying in a hostile
and then they went to the hostile and they got
video pictures of him when the girl at the desk said, hey,
remove your mask. I want to see your face. If
your face matches your ID and so at that hostile

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they had a picture of him without the mask on.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
So I had this.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Picture, They had this route, they had the finger prints
on the water bottle and the wrapper, and they had
the bullet right the bullet that went into the CEO
of the insurance company. And then they publicized all this.
It was all over the media. And then finally someone
at a McDonald's and I think I'll tune Pennsylvania, said Hey,

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I think that guy eating a whatever a cheeseburger is
the murderer or the person that's wanted. And sure enough
a few minutes later, the police came and they found
the plastic gun and this was a gun, and they
found a manifesto and almost a confession on his body,

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and so all the pieces fit together. It wasn't just
one thing. It wasn't just the bullet, It wasn't just
the water bottle, It wasn't just the candy wrapper. It
was everything together, the photographs, the images, the manifesto, the
water bottle, the fingerprints, the fact that he checked into
the hostile, the fact they could trace him back. And
that's the same in cancer. A cancer doctor should be

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a little bit of a detective in tracing all the facts.
And it's so important not to assume something. And I'll
talk about this just a few minutes about assuming so often.
I see, for example, women with breast cancer in the
doctor act so commonly as if the breast is independent
of the body, like the breast and the body are

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not related. But why do we fear cancer? Well, we
fear a cancer because cancer can travel. That's to say,
God forbid a person has breast cancer, and that breast
cancer can leave. The breast can go to the lymph
nodes first, or go to the bones, or the liver,
or the brain, or the lungs or any part of
the body at wants. Is like invasive cancer can do.

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And I see so common. I would say probably more
than ninety percent women that I see with breast cancer.
And this goes on true for almost every cancer I
deal with. I'll give you another example in a minute.
That the doctors don't get the full picture. They don't
follow all the leads, and it's really so important to

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follow all the leads. And we do that, well, a
lot of things can happen. Well, you can say, hey,
this woman, and I checked out this woman or this patient.
It could be a man. Also, this patient has nothing
wrong with the rest.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
Of the body. We checked all the bones.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
We had bone scans and cat scans and pet scans
and blood tests and cancer markers and physical exam and history,
and everything checks out fine. Or you could find possibly
the cancer is traveled, so it's no longer in whatever
the primary site was, whether it's a breast or the
lung or the liver or the kidney or bladder wherever.
But it's traveled, so it's metastatic, so it's traveled. That's

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another possibility. And then another possibility is that you find
a different cancer. And I remember vividly about a year
ago a woman came to with breast cancer and I
told her the same thing I'm telling you. And we
got a scan of her body, and what did we find. Well,
just for example, this one woman, we found that she
had a separate kidney cancer. And we put a little needle,

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tiny little painless little needle in the kidney and found
that she had not only a breast cancer, but she
had a kidney cancer. The two were unrelated, so she
didn't have stage four breast cancer traveled with a kidney. No,
she had a localized breast cancer and a localized kidney cancer.
We found them both and treated them both, and both

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were treated with radiosurgery, so she didn't lose her breast,
she didn't have a lumpectomy or mistectomy. She didn't want that.
She didn't want anyone cutting on her body. So we
were able to treat her breast with success. And then
of course I asked, what do you want to do
with the kidney? I said, the usual treatment in America,
it's sad to say, is surgery, but that's I think

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because most patients are never told that there's options like radiosurgery.
And we've treated thousands of people with kidney cancers. Here's
a woman. We staged her up, checking her out to
see if her breast cancer had traveled, and in fact,
we found out that she had two separate cancers, a
breast cancer and a kidney cancer, and we treated both
of them years ago, and now they are both both

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cancers are gone, she's in remission, she's cancer free, she's
doing all the things she wants. She has her breast,
she has her health, she has both kidneys. And this
is the work that we do every day to check
every patient who comes in the door. Assuming the patient
wants that, and we explain this, some people don't want that.

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Somebody say, oh, just treat my primary cancer. I don't
care about anything else. So I will say that, I
try to explain why we like to get the other
test to make sure that there's no spread of the cancer.
And most people say, hey, doctor, that's a good idea.
I really want that. I really want to know if
my cancer is traveled or not, can not traveled, or
if I have other cancer. I want to know how

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my body is. And often people who have may may
have not had medical care for five or ten or twenty,
are never years, all of a sudden, are very intrigued
in medicine and very intrigued about their body and want
to make up for lost time and want to get
the test done.

Speaker 6 (12:48):
And this is the.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Work that we do every day at thirteen eighty four
Broadway Broadway in thirty eighth Street in the heart of
New York City. This in general gives an idea of
why we talk to patients, why it's so much better
to meet in person. And a lot of people say, oh,
let's just have a zoom calls. I'll send you over
my records and you look at it and you tell
me what you think. Now, it doesn't work, and we

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don't do it. Yeah, it's a quick way to see
a patient, but it's not very fulfilling for the doctor.
For me, maybe you get paid for it. Well, I
don't get paid I don't do that. But for the patient,
it's not a very good way to get answers and
to get the best answers, and patients of doctors have
known for hundreds of years it's best to meet in person,

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to sit down, review the medical facts, to know each other,
look at each other in the eye, to examine the patient,
and then answer all the questions. And usually there's many
more questions, so many questions that I answer and also
provide information literature that's most appropriate for the patient and
DVD that's most appropriate for the patient, and you can well,

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you can get the literature yourself. If you want to
call us. You can call anytime, day or night or
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in New York City, and choices means, yes, you'll have choices,
even if you had that breast cancer, and even if
you had kidney cancer, and even if you had two
cancers in your body, and even if you never knew
about it, and even if your doctor's never told you
about it, and even if we found out, and even
if you don't want to have surgery, Yes, there are
choices for you. And this is the work we do.

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So give us a call if you want. We're super
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These are some of the biggest transportation hubs in America.

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Port Authority is the biggest bus station in America, and
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who come to our neighborhood. And you can certainly come
yourself or ask your friend who may be coming to
Manhattan to pick up a package of information. But it's

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We do everything to be accessible. We're here in the
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I'm doctor Liederman. I'll write back.

Speaker 7 (16:03):
Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when surgery
didn't help and toxic chemo stopped working. Many come in pain.
Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when their
caregiver has no more care to offer. Doctor Liederman bringing
innovative cancer care for decades. When the next cancer drug
is not as promised, when surgery was to fail to pass,

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we may be able to offer you new cancer treatment options.
We treat new and recurrent cancers small or large, most
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surgery didn't work. Call doctor Liederman two and two choices,
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Speaker 3 (17:03):
It's doctor Liederman with guy talking about skin cancer treatment options.

Speaker 8 (17:07):
You treated me, I had basil cell onto my cheek.
A buddy of mine went through the same thing that
looked like they went out of him with a melon baller.
This was on my face. I don't want any caring.
I think I'm kind of handsome. I wanted to keep
it that way.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
So are hats and we're going to Olympics. Usually in
America there's three million skin cancers a year. Ninety nine
percent of people were let down the primrose path to
have radical mos surgery for their skin cancer. Why are
you different.

Speaker 8 (17:30):
From hearing what you report? You know, hey, you don't
need to get radical deforming. Come and see what we
could do. I have a lot of trust in what
I've seen and what I heard, and the treatments were
very simple.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
If Miss America comes up to right now, what would
she think about the results of your skin she.

Speaker 8 (17:44):
Would be able to keep her hands off. There is
zero indication it was ever there. You know, I don't
know that I got the chance to say, hey, thanks,
doctor Leadman. I tell anybody who's going down the same path.
Doctor Leederman did the absolute perfect thing. That's where you
should do.

Speaker 6 (17:55):
Any regrets, not at all.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Call Doctor Liederman had two and two choices thirteen eighty four,
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Speaker 5 (18:04):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Liederman at the WR Studios
in the hearts of New York City, were just a
few steps from the Radio Surgery New York Cancer Treatment
Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman, the
leading cancer expert treat prostate cancer not invasively. He was
the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,

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and he's the first in America and in the Western
hemisphere with body radio surgery. You can also call doctor
Liderman at two and two choices for a free informative
booklet and DVD. Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
We're back.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
I want to take just a minute to remember Jimmy Carter.
Jimmy Carter was the thirty ninth president. He lived to
be one hundred. Jimmy Carter was the first president ever
treated with radio surgery. Radio surgery, of course, is the
work that we're talking about.

Speaker 6 (18:50):
We've been talking about it for years.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
I'm the first doctor to perform radio surgery of the
body in the Western hemisphere. For years, we've treated about
forty thousand patients. So we have Jimmy Carter was the
first president to receive radio surgery. And if you remember,
he had metastatic cancer traveled to the brain. So usually
when cancer travels to the brain, the prognosis is very,

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very very grim. And he was diagnosed almost a decade
ago with cancer that traveled to his brain, and he
chose to have radiosurgery, non invasive treatment, almost a decade ago.
And wow, you'd say, what a great decade he had.
He lived longer than any other president in our history.

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He lived almost a decade after being diagnosed with metastatic
cancer to the brain. He had a good quality of life.
This is the work we do every day at Radiostrid
in New York. We're, in fact, the first to do
brain radio surgery in New York, which is pinpoint treatment
for brain tumors or cancers in the brain. That's what
Jimmy Carter had. Do you get a cancer travel to

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the brain. We also do radio surgery for benign tumors.
There's benign tumors in the brain like meningiomas and acoustic
neuromas and pituitary tumors, So there's lots of tumors in
the brain that most people. I believe most people would
rather not have their head opened up. Just opening up
the head and doing a biops your surgery. There's a

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stroke rate, there's a death rate. So lots of people
who know better tend not to want to have surgery
in their head. Jimmy Carter did not want to have
surgery on the head. So why would a president. Why
does a president choose radio surgery for cancer treatment? Well,
I believe that the patient that we have and Jimmy

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Carter all chose treatments for the same reason. I believe
our patients choose radio surgery because it's well tolerated, it's
highly effective where we attack cancer. It's outpatient, it's proven
over decades, We've treated tens of thousands of the patients.
There's no cutting, there's no bleeding, there's no anesthesia. And

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why do people come here? Well, people probably want to
learn from doctor Liederman, the first doctor to perform body
radio surgery in America, the first doctor to perform brain
radio surgery in New York. Were the first in the
world for any of this work. We've heard thousands really
forty thousand patients over decades. We have high success and
high quality of life. So commonly and people say, well,

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how can I learn more? And the answer is really
pretty simple. You can meet doctor Liederman. Just call us
at two and two choices. Two and two choices. We
accept most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid. We're super conveniently located in Manhattan,
thirteen eighty four Broadway. You can learn. We can talk
about what Jimmy Carter must have known when he decided

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to go through brain radio surgery a decade before and
lived years with the history of metastatic cancer stage four.
So often people say, oh, I have stage four cancer,
I'm going to die at the end. Well, Jimmy Carter
had stage four cancer a decade before, and he had
a great quality of life. He was building houses most

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of the years. He was with his wife and family
and loved ones. And so you can learn what doctor
Liederman would tell a patient. You can learn what Jimmy
Carter must have known. Just call us at two and
two choices. We believe that you're the president of your body,
and that means that you can choose yourself, what options
you want, what treatment you want. Just call us up

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at two and two choices, two and two two four
six forty two thirty seven. You can learn what Jimmy
Carter must have known, and he chose radio surgery. You
can choose radio surgery two if that's something that we
think is appropriate. It's something that you may want. So
the first president ever to have radio surgery was Jimmy Carter.
The first doctor ever to perform radio surgery, doctor Liederman.

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So this is our work. Accept most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid.
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Speaker 6 (23:09):
We are alive on the radio, and.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
That means you can call us at one eight hundred
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why don't you ever talk about X y Z doctor Liederman. Well,
now's your chance. You call us at one eight hundred
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two one zero seven ten call us. Noah will pick
up the call, and you can ask all your questions

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and I'll be happy to answer all your questions from
now until two o'clock. This is doctor Liederman. I want
to talk about a woman who came to me about
eight years ago. She's a woman, she's a Hispanic woman
from Dominican Republic. She had a breast cancer. She had
six children. She came with her family. She had a
mammogram because she fought to have alleged on her breast.

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She had to repeat mammogram. She had a needle biopsy,
and she was sent to me. She just did not
want to remove the breast. She did not want to
have chemotherapy. She was two hundred and fourteen pounds, she
was five foot four. Her bowels were fine, she had
no lumps or bumps. Her needle biopsy showed breast cancer.

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It was at the four o'clock position of the left breast.
She had multiple medical problems. She had high blood pressure
and pain and diabetes. But she had no family history
of breast cancer. A lot of people say, oh, I
don't have to be worried to have no family history. Well,
here's another example. This woman had no family history, but
she had breast cancer, and she chose to have radiation

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radio surgery for her breast cancer and examined her. There
was a lesion in the breast, there was firmness in
the left breast the four o'clock position. There were no
lymphodes involved, or liver was fine, her avenue was fine,
or extremities were fine. She had proven breast cancer and
she was treated years ago, nearly a decade ago. And

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talking about her today, well, she came in this week
and she gets some mammograms. People often say, well, doctor Liederman,
do you arrange testing for patients. Well, of course, we
do physical exams and blood testing and imaging. And this
woman had an imaging, she had a mammogram and there
was a question of a lesion in the breast, and
she asked me, do you think I should get a biops?
She said, sure, why not? A needle biopsy is so easy,

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and I can tell you it made her day one
of the most happiest days ever. She had a needle
biopsy about eight years after having breast cancer and after
having hour treatment for breast cancer, and the biopsy showed
no cancer. The cancer was gone. She had had a
left breast cancer. It was biopsy proven. She had radiosurgery.

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She did not want to have mestectomyoretical surgery. She did
not have systemic therapy, and now she has proof that
the cancer is gone. She had a biopsy in the
same site. Some people say, oh, do you always get biopsies. No,
she had a biopsy because radiologists was concerned about a
spot in the breast. I was the breast that had
cancer before we got the biops and the biops who's negative.

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So she is so happy eight years later, cancer free
after our treatment. And we treat so many women with
breast cancer. You if you have a question about breast cancer,
can call us. You can get information. Just call us
at two and two choices two and two two four
six forty two thirty seven. You can ask for a
package of information it sent you at no charge, no obligation.

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Or if you want to have a serious conversation about
your situation, it's always best to meet in person. Now,
I just want to take a minute to introduce myself.
I like to do that because so many people would
talk about things that don't really have a background or training.
So my name is doctor Gil Liederman. I was born
in Waterloo, Iowa. Went to university public schools first and

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then of course university Medical School was MD real medical
doctor MD at h twenty five, like my illustrious brother
Ted MD at twenty five, and like Ariel doctor Ariel Leederman,
cancer doctor working here. Wonderful doctor, smart doctor, compulsive doctor,
loved by his patients. All three Leadermans doctor Liederman's mds.

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At twenty five, I went on to the University of
Chicago Michael Reese trained in internal medicine for three years,
treated thousands of patients Board certified internal medicine. Then went
on to Boston Harvard Medical School Dana Farber, the prestigious
Dana Farber trained for three years and was remained on
the staff, treated thousands of patients treating cancer, diagnosing and

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treating cancer. Then also at Harvard Medical School at the
well known Joint Center for Radiation Therapy three Warriors board certified,
treated thousands of cancer patients there as well. The only
Harvard trained triple board certified radiation doctor in New York,
one of the few in the world. Here for you
at thirty four Broadway, accepting most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid. Doctor

(27:59):
A Leaderman is also here seeing patients Board certified, trained
at some of the most prestigious hospitals across the nation.
Is meticulous, thorough, thoughtful, caring, loved by his patients and
their families, loved by his staff. This is the work
he do does and you're lucky to have doctor Ariel

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Liederman caring for you if you wish. This is the
work we do. And why do we introduce ourselves so
you know who we are, who is on the other
side of this radio, and we're here every day, and
we'll talk about that in a few minutes. We'll be
right back.

Speaker 9 (28:33):
It's Johnny Bragg's talking prostate cancer. Twenty years ago, I
came to doctor Leederman with prostate cancer. It was serious.
My stepfather died days after prostate surgery. My uncle never
recovered from prostate surgery. I came to doctor Leederman with
prostate cancer and high PSA. Doctor Liederman explained all options,

(28:53):
shared his and comparison results. I trusted doctor Liederman twenty
years ago. Today, I trust doctor Leederman even more. My
prostate cancer is gone, my PSA is zero, my quality
of life is great. You can trust doctor Leederman too,
like me for over twenty years, Call doctor Leederman for

(29:15):
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Speaker 5 (30:29):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Leiderman at the w R
studios in the hearts of New York City. Were just
a few steps from the Radio Surgery New York Cancer
Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman,
the leading cancer expert, treats prostate cancer non invasively. He
was the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,

(30:50):
and he's the first in America and in the Western
Hemisphere with body radio surgery. You can also call doctor
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Speaker 6 (31:02):
We are back.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
And I often talk about people that come in to
get a checkup that don't have known cancer. They were
no biopsies, no cancer, no treatment. They just make an
appointment and want to get checked up. So I want
to talk about a man just like that. He's sixty
three years old. It's from Jamaica. He's married, has three children.
He came by himself. He has two brothers, both have

(31:24):
prostate cancer, and he came for a checkup. He had
had pain in the testicos. He said the pain got better.
He was waking up four times a night to urinate.
He said he had urgency of urination, but he didn't
leak urine. But he has his testicular pain. He said
his vision is okay. He is two hundred and twenty

(31:46):
pounds normally after he retired, and before I retired, it
was two eight. He's hired a six foot two, so
he's a big man. He's not at Colonoscoby. He resides
mainly in Florida, but he's here because well, his brothers
were treated here successfully and he wants to go with
a winner. So he came to me. He was offered

(32:07):
up to kolonoscopy. He never had it, and that's something
we talk about all the time. He had cardiac stents,
he has known heart disease, he had two brothers, had
prostate cancer. He was electrician, and he moved to Florida.
It's a home there, and I checked on him and well,
his prostate was enlarged, he had frequent urination, had a

(32:28):
family history, and we checked him out. So he had
no known cancer, no proven cancer, but he wanted to
get checked out, and so we checked him out and
we checked his urine first of all, and when he
urinates normal urine, the bladder holds about two to three
hundred CC's, which is a measurement to cubic centimeters, and

(32:49):
when a person urinates, most all that urine comes out.
So this man, his bladder held one hundred and eighty ccs,
but when he urinated, only sixty c seeds of urine
came out, which means one hundred and twenty ccs of
urine state in the bladder, which means the majority of
azure never came out of the bladder.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
It's stuck. It's stuck.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
And then he had an MRI. We ranged for an
MRI for him and MRI was py red five. MRI
is done to look at the prostate and well, there's
a scale. There's a scale in medicine for almost everything.
So an MRI scale. Pyrad is a name, and it
goes from one to five. One means it's almost certainly
not cancer. But I have plenty of patients who have

(33:31):
pyrad one who have cancer. This man had py red
five and we pirate five. It means he's most likely
has cancer. He has extra capsule or extent means it's
going beyond the capsule. It's going into the seminole vesicles,
it's going into the nerves, and it's going in a

(33:51):
nodule more than three and a half centimeters of a
mass inside the prostate. And his PSA is hide. So
there's a man that walked in the door with no
known cancer. He did have a family history and leaving
he has lots of issues. He's got this yearine that
won't come out of the bladder. He has an MRI
which shows most likely cancer. It's traveling through the capsule

(34:12):
seminovesical nerves with a three and a half centimeter mass
in the prostate and a high PSA and have arranged
immediately for him to have a tiny little biopsy of
the prostate to prove what's going on. Most likely he
has prostate cancer and hopefully we've found it early before
it traveled. And of course we'll get other tests on

(34:33):
him as well, including bone scans, and it's called a PSMA,
which is a fancy pet scan. It's one of the
fanciest tests and most expensive tests around usual prices like
seven thousand dollars, and we fight with the insurance companies
to get that approved, so a patient knows if the
cancer has traveled or not, but his cancer's already going

(34:54):
through the capsule and semino vesicles and wrapped around the
nerves in the pelvis. In this This is the work
we do, and this is why it's so important. If
you haven't been checked up, if you're just walking through
thinking nothing can happen to you, Well things can happen,
and bad things can happen. So it's better to come
in and get checked out like this man, rather to think, oh,

(35:15):
I'm feeling okay today, I will worry. I'll let the
cares of tomorrow wait until this day is done, which
is a famous Irish proverb. Let the cares of tomorrow
wait until this day is done. No, it's better to
come in, make an appointment, get checked out, whether you're
a man, woman, child. There's tests that could be done,
blood test, physical exam, imaging tests like this man. And

(35:37):
he had imaging to show his bladder wasn't working, his
bladder was blocked up. He had a big mess in
the prostect that's already left the prostate as a high
PSA and a high suspicion of an advanced cancer. And
this is the work that we do every day at
thirteen eighty four Broadway Broadway in thirty eighth Street in
the heart of New York City and just on the

(35:58):
other side of the Let's say he is a sixty
year old man born in Puerto Rico. He's married with
a child. He came to me with a PSA of
six point eighty six. He was on a medicine called
pro scar, which can diminish the actual PSA, can make
PSA artificially low, so we took that into consideration. He
also had urinary frequency was urinating three times a night,

(36:22):
which is not normal. We offered to check him out
for his prostate and his bladder. He did have a
bladder checkout and he had a biopsy was prostate. The
prostate biops he showed cancer. He was urinating three times
a night, He had no bleeding. His weight was one
fifty nine two years earlier was one seventy. He says
he lost the weight because of a diet and going

(36:44):
to the gym. He also had heart bypass surgery, so
he's got other things going on in his life. I
examined him. He had a nodular prostate, so his nodules
in the prostate. He had the high PSA. Remember the
PSA was on pro scar, so actually the real PSA
was much higher than the six point eighty six. It
was a stage T two prostate cancer. And I should

(37:06):
tell you one more thing, and that is we treated
them eight years ago for prostate cancer eight years ago,
and of course he came in now to get checked
out and now PSA is zero. So this man is
very happy that his advanced cancer is in remission. He's
doing great. How do you know if the cancer is
successfully treated with prostate well, the PSA should go down

(37:29):
to zero and stay at zero for the rest of
one's life without other manipulation, without hormones and other things.
And he received no hormones. A lot of men don't
really like the hormones because all the things that can
do to the body. It's something we talk about to
every man that walks in the door. This is the
work that we do every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway,

(37:50):
where we've treated nine thousand men. One doctor here, guess
who has treated nine thousand men over decades, with lots
of experience, probably more than anyone announce. And we have
data and booklets and DVDs, all kinds of information to
share with you. I've never seen any such literature from
any other doctor or facility. So we have lots to

(38:11):
offer you if you wish. So if you have a
question about prostate, give us a call. If you don't
know anything about your prostate, whether you're a man or
a loved one, bring in your loved one or a man,
Come in yourself or child, Bring in your dad or
uncle or brother and get checked out. It might save
your life. Like this man who walked in the door
with a pyrad five nodular prostect growing through the capsule.

(38:36):
Hopefully his visit will save his life. And that's why
we're here every day. And for this other man, well
he's cancer free years later, and most likely he will
remain cancer free with the PSA never rising, and most
likely will never ever see his cancer after radio surgery.
Here at thirteen eighty four Broadway, super convenient, accepting most insurances.

(39:00):
Call us her two and two choices if you wish.
I want to talk about a woman who came to
me fifty five years ago. Years ago. She's born in
New York City. She's fifty five years old. She has
three children. She came by herself. She's fifty five, but
has a history of stroke. I had blood pressure asthma.
She's a smoker, and she had a mammogram which showed

(39:22):
a nine centimeter mass in the right breast nine centimeters
the size of a fist, and she had a large lymphanode.
She had a biopsy showing cancer. She had biopsy and
work up at one of the biggest hospitals in New
York City. She had deformity of the breast. She couldn't
feel the lymphodes, but they were there. Her weight was

(39:44):
one sixty two. She was four foot eleven. She was
a smoker. Of course, I encouraged her to stop smoking.
She was shorter breath even on exertion. She had colonoscopy,
which is great, and she had pap spears, which was great.
And we called that big hospital at our records her.
Her mother had a breast cancer. So her mother had
a mastectomy, and this woman just did not want to

(40:06):
have a mastectomy. And an exam she had a large
mass in the upper outer quadit of the right breast.
She had palpable lymphodes up to two centimis almost an
inch in her armpit. The rest of her exam was aoka,
and she chose to have our treatment only, even though
she had this large mass in the breast and lymphodes.

(40:26):
She wanted our treatment only. And that was years ago,
and so she came to me recently and.

Speaker 6 (40:35):
The radiologist wanted to do a biopsy.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
They couldn't believe that everything went away, this huge mass
and lymphodes went away with our treatment only, and so
the radio just asked for a biopsy. I encourage a patient,
you can get a biopsy and just check it out.
She had a biopsy, which is a tiny little need
on the breast. It was painless and easy and simple.
And even the biopsy shows no cancer. She's cancer free.

(40:58):
The imaging is gray, the physical exam is great, the
biopsy of the breast is great. This is the work
that we do every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway
Broadway in thirty eighth Street, in the heart of New
York City. And I did want to tell you that again.
You can call us if you have a question one
in one hundred and three two one zero seven ten.
From now till two o'clock, we're here live on the

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radio till two and then we're here every day on
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to six pm. Sundays at eleven am to noon and
from one to two pm, and then every night we're
on at midnight. And patients, of course love to sleep
with doctor Liederman and wake up with doctor Liederman and

(41:44):
work with doctor Liederman. And you don't need a radio
to listen to the radio. You can tune in on
your phone or your computer anywhere in the world. And
we have people I know this because they come here
at people in Shanghai and Bangladesh listening to us on
the radio, and they come here here because they like
what they hear and they can't get such care elsewhere.

(42:04):
And of course we have people throughout the New York
and Tri State area and across America. So many people
get our information. In New York has about what eighteen
million people, and so many people get our information send
it to their loved ones. So you can call us
with your loved one's address if they need cancer information,
or have your loved ones call us to get a

(42:24):
package of information. There's no charge, and lots of learning
you'll get from the DVDs and from our booklets, and
lots of learning from listening to the program. But the
best learning if you have an individual cancer problem is
to come in person. So my name is doctor Liederman.
We'll be right back.

Speaker 9 (42:43):
Numbers mean much to me because of prostate cancer. I'm
Johnny Bragg's the number two for my stepfather who died
of prostate cancer and my uncle who suffered so much
after prostate cancer surgery. The number fifteen fifteen years since
doctor Leedhaman's successful treatment of my mind prostate cancer the
number zero, which is my PSA zero after doctor Liederman's

(43:05):
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Call two on two choices for prostate cancer treatment. Call
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I'm glad I did.

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You'll be number one with doctor Leiderman.

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Speaker 5 (44:44):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Leiderman at the WR Studios
in the hearts of New York City for just a
few steps from the radio surgery in New York Cancer
Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman,
the leading cancer expert treat prostate cancer not invasively. He
was the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,

(45:05):
and he's the first in America and in the Western
Hemisphere with body radiosurgery. You can also call doctor Liederman
at two and two choices for a free informative booklet
and DVD. Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back, we are back.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
I want to talk about another man. There was another
man who walked in the door. I wanted to get
checked out, just a couple of days ago. He's sixty
five years old. He's saying, oh, he's by himself, no kids.
He said he had BPH. Okay, he had BPH. Well,
how does he know he has BPH? He doesn't know
he has BPH. He says that, but he doesn't know,
and BPH means a benign prostatic hypertrophy, that it's only

(45:39):
benign things that are causing problems for his prost He says, Oh,
I've had BPH all my life. He said, he has
the increased frequency of your nation. He said he wakes
up three or four times a night to urinate. He says,
in the daytime, he urinates every fifteen minutes, and he
has some blood in the urine occasionally, and it's pain
when he urinates. And well, it doesn't sound very benign

(46:01):
to me to say that you're waking up all night,
you're urniting every fifteen minutes, you have blood, you have pain.
And he walked in the door saying, oh, I have
benign prostatic hypertrophy. Well, I talked about other things. He
smokes marijuana, which is something I encourage him not to do.
It can cause cancer and a lot of other harm

(46:21):
which people don't talk about very much. He never had colonoscopy.
I encouraged to do that. I made recommendations to get colonoscopy.
People have colonoscopy live longer. I have some dear friends,
doctor friends who are too embarrassed to have colonoscopy. Col
of guard is just looking for blood. Colon guard is
not the same thing as colonoscopy. We'll talk about that

(46:42):
when you come in. He was on no medications, He
was never in the hospital. His father had lung cancer,
his mother died of breast cancer. And well, I examined him.
He was a tall, slender man and his exam was
almost perfect. Accept accept His prostate was well, I was
like Mount McKinley. His prostate was rock hard socus desaucus, huge,

(47:07):
rock hard prostate. And he had multiple medical problems. So
he came in he want to get checked out, and
he agreed to get checked out. And well, that was
just a few days ago, And he came back a
couple of days later, and we found well, number one,
when he urinates, like he's explained a few minutes ago,
normal bladder holds two or three hundred ccs. His bladder

(47:27):
was holding four hundred and fifty ccs, so it was
much distended. And after he urinated, there were still three
hundred c seds of urinus bladder, so he was not
getting the urine out. So either his bladder is sick
or it's being blocked up by the prostate, which could
well be as a rock hard prostate. But in any event,
why is he urinating every fifteen minutes Because he can

(47:48):
never empty his bladder and he knew about that. He's
sixty five years old. He said he had BPH all
his life. Well, I think he's gonna have another diagnosis
after we do the proper test if he wishes. And
we also got a PSA as PSA was twelve, he says,
a rock hard prostate. He's not able to urinate. Well,

(48:09):
he's got urine stuck in the bladder. He's got a
rock hard prostate in this high PSA, and he most
likely has prostate cancer. And he's lucky that he came in.
And now he says he desperately wants to get good care.
He's a man that didn't do anything all his life.
Now sixty five, he walks in the door and he
sees what harm it can be to have a cancer

(48:30):
that's undetected and you don't have to have symptoms. I
can tell you something else. You can have prostate cancer
with no symptoms, no pain, no urination. You can have
breast cancer, lung cancer, pancreas cancer, or bladder cancer with
no pain, no lumps, no bleeding. The reason people get
checked out is number one, they're smart, and number two,

(48:50):
they understand that if you detect the cancer early, you
can cure that cancer early a lot easier than late.
And so lucky for this man he showed up. Lucky
for both of these men, they showed up to get
checked out. This man had no family history of prostate cancer,
so he could have said, Hey, I have no family
history of prostate cancer, why should I care? But he

(49:11):
did care enough to come in, and he was suffering
some with his frequent urination, waking up to urinate, urinating
in the day more than necessary. And so we're getting
now an amri the prostate to detect how big this
nodular prostate is. We're getting a biopsy of the prospect
is all in the last couple of days. By the way,
we don't waste time here. I see so many people
they go from one test to another. It takes one month,

(49:34):
two months, three months, They try to get another doctor. No,
we don't do it that way here. We want to
get the tests. I call up and arrange it. I
want to see a doctor about prost biopsy, I call
up and arrange it almost immediately. So he tried not
to waste your time unless you want to waste time,
unless you want to delay. And there are people who
don't really want to get things done quickly, But I

(49:55):
tell you most people are grateful to be able to
do things in a timely fashioned by highly competent, skilled
physicians who are well known and well respected. And this
is the work we do. So this man who walked
in sixty five saying he had benign prosthetic hypotrophy, well
he's going to be probably wrong about that. Hopefully we'll

(50:16):
find what he has early and able to fix his
urine and his prostate and his rock hard prostate and
his high PSA. And this is the work that we
do every day. At thirteen eighty four Broadway Broadway in
thirty eighth Street in the heart ofver City. And why
do we do it well? To make people's lives better?
This is what we do every day. Now I'm talking

(50:36):
as another bookmark or book and really about a patient.
This is a man who came from Jamaica, is sixty
one years old. He's married, he had two daughters. He
came with a friend for a valuation to prostate biops.
He had a gleas in seven cancer elsewhere and his
PSA was seven point nine. So gleason is how the
cancer looks under the microscope. PSA is prestige specific energen.

(51:01):
It's a blood test and if you don't know your
PSA is or your loved ones PSA, he should get
it checked out. Come in here, we'll do it for you.
And well, he had a bone scan and cat scan.
Cat scans are not very good tests for the prostate.
There's lots of doctors who do them. I don't know why,
because the bony palvis interferes with the image of the prostate.
It's much better to have an MRI. So he had

(51:23):
the high PSA by his primary doctor went to urologist.
He had the glease in seven he had multiple cores.
Eight cores were positive. He had noctoria, which means he
was waking up three times a night to urinate. He
was offered medicines to urinate better, he just didn't want
that for some reason. And so his prostache had a
large prostate no spread. We worked him up and made

(51:47):
sure there was no spread of the cancers precedat and
exam was enlarged. So this is a man who was
treated ten years ago. All these things i'm telling you
are from ten years ago. He came to me ten
years ago, and now his PSA is zero. And like
I've talked about earlier in the program, how do you
know a man who's successfully treat for prostate cancer. Well,

(52:09):
the PSA should be zero and stay at zero for
the rest of a man's life without any artifactual changes
or medicines that artificially makes the prostate measurements go down.
This is the work that we do every day at
thirteen eighty four Broadway. And I want to speak about

(52:30):
a woman who's ninety eight years old. So she's a
very spry, elegant woman. Her daughter lives in France, her
daughter flies in from France. Why does she fly in
from France to be with her mother for an appointment?
So some people say, oh, I live on whatever sixty
second street. I can't make it, You're too far away.
There's a family they fly in from France to be

(52:51):
with their loved ones when the loved ones comes for
an appointment. So why is this lovely ninety eight year
old woman coming for care? Well, she was actually ninety
eight years ago and she had had multiple skin cancers
on her face or leg or left foot. She had

(53:13):
a cancer of the tempo right on the right temple,
a large cancer. She was seen by a dermatologist, a
dermatologists biopsy did. The dermatologists wanted to send her for
Mo's radical surgery. And this woman had had MOS before.
MOSES like an excavation of the skin. The daughter didn't

(53:36):
want her mother at ninety eight to have MOS. I
think most patients don't want to have MOS if they
know better. But the problem is most dermatologists never tell
patients about all the options. So she came to me.
She heard a radio program. The radio listener told her, hey,
go see doctor Liederman. And I saw her years ago
and we treated her years ago. With no cutting, no bleeding,

(53:59):
invisible beams to hit that cancer on her right tempo
and well, now that has gone. Her daughter flew in
from France to be with her. We checked out the
other skin. When one pierson has a skin cancer, one area,
that one person can have other skin cancers because it's
the same skin type and same sun exposure, so we're

(54:20):
checking out other areas. She's more than one hundred now
doing great. She comes because she likes non invasive, highly
successful treatment with doctor Liederman with decades of experience and
thousands treated.

Speaker 6 (54:32):
This is the great work that we do. I believe.
God bless you for your trust. God bless you for listening.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
And thanks for tuning in to the Radio Surgery Hour
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