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November 10, 2025 11 mins
During the interview, Miranda shares her perspective that former Speaker Nancy Pelosi may be stepping down at this time because of the negative attention brought by Mayor-Elect Mamdani, which she believes could damage the Democratic Party's reputation in the coming months. The Pod Force One podcast is a major hit in the audio world! The latest episode highlights details about Eric Trump, the president’s son, as featured in Devine’s latest coverage.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now back to the Mark Simo Show on wo R. Well,
Miranda Divine, the biggest and best columnist around. You can
read a column in The New York Post. Make sure
you listen to her excellent podcast. It's called pod Force one,
great guests every week. Podforce one is available wherever you
get podcasts, and get her latest book, The Big Guys.

(00:22):
Whether she's written some great bestsellers. Miranda Divine, how you doing?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hey? Thanks so much, Mike, I'm great.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hey. I love this column about Michelle Obama. What is
she doing? She's been on this whining tour complaining about
how bad America was to her.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
What got into her?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well, my personal theory is that her complaints are just
so absurd. You know, she says it was such a
burden to have hair and makeup and fashion stylists when
she was at the White House, and you know how
tough life was. I just think that she's trying to
portray herself as a victim because now that the Commings

(01:04):
are in charge of her husband's party, she has to
kind of stop them asking why she has so many
mansions and try and make them feel sorry for her.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Ah, that's a good point. But her complaining with somebody
who has a multiple twenty five million dollar mansions and
flying around in private jets all over the place. But
it's tough for people like her and Bill Clinton and
to go back to obscurity, isn't it. They just can't

(01:37):
get off the stage.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
So hard for them, you know, my heart leads. We've
got Nancy Pelosi's the other one. She's decided, at the
grand old age of eighty five that she might decide
to retire in a couple of years. And I think
that she's doing it just in the nick of time
before Zoram, you know, the rich Mamdani and his crew

(02:02):
take over the party and start asking questions about her
little one hundred and forty million dollar hall that she's
dragging away from her stock tips, very very prescient, her
little little, you know, stock market portfolio.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
That's a very interesting theory that all of these dirty
politicians are going into hiding before the Communists take over.
But Mam Dannie, so far, the people he's chosen, Transition
team others, they're all extra Blasio people. So we got
through Deblasio for eight years, We'll get through this, won't we.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Look, the problem is I think Deblasio was always high
and late to work and diving off going to his
gym in Brooklyn, and you know, he just didn't do
a lot, and so he still created mayhem and the
city just went downhill, so palpably on his watch. But

(03:05):
Mamdani is more of an ideologue. You know, he's more determined,
he has more energy. He really wants to shake up
the place. And that's what I worry about. And the
other thing is that with Deblasio, we're coming off a
pretty good level. You know, it was a Rudy Giuliani

(03:26):
Bloomberg city, and so there was a long way to fall.
But we don't have a long way to fall anymore
before we're just off the planet. The city is already
difficult to live in. Eric Adams has sort of arrested
the decline a little bit, but once he's gone, you know,

(03:46):
we're going to have violence interrupters, social workers in law
of police and already we have governors from red states
like Ronda Santis in Florida putting out feelers for our
NYPD officers. They're going to give them bonuses if they move,
and I think it's very difficult for them not to

(04:09):
sort of accept the good ones anyway, not to accept
those bribes to leave New York.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Hey. Miranda Devine does an excellent podcast, one of the
best podcasts out there. It's called Podforce one. The latest
one is Eric Trump Boy. That was interesting. Tell us
about your impressions of Eric Trump.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
He is just a really delightful person. And I guess
the big takeout I get from all of the Trump
five children is just how well adjusted and kind of
decent they are. Eric Trump is really, as his father
calls him, a good boy, and he described his childhood.

(04:51):
His mother, Ivana Trump, was really tough. She was, you know,
check from from basically behind the iron curtain. She was
a champion skier, and so she really ruled their family
with iron discipline. And what Eric said was if it

(05:14):
got past my mum to my father, you knew were
really in trouble, But it really didn't because she just
made sure that all those energetic kids with type A
personalities that Eric describes them were held in line. And
their father also during the holidays, got them to go

(05:36):
and work on his various construction sites for minimum wage.
And Eric saidy absolutely loved it, like he loved working
with his hands. They were absolutely exhausted by the end
of the day. And his father also said no drinking,
no smoking, no drugs, and that was the one ironclad

(05:57):
rule for the family. And Eric said, look, by the
end of the workday, we were so exhausted, and we
also knew how hard it had been to earn that
twenty bucks that we you know, his I just didn't
want to spend it on a slab of beer. And
he also said that, you know, he went to all
the best schools, colleges, et cetera. And he said most

(06:20):
of his peers ended up in rehab or some sort
of problem because they had too much time and too
much money.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, it's a fascinating podcast, go listen to it. Its
pod Force one, Miranda Divine's podcast. Latest episode is Eric Trump.
So you wrote the definitive book on Hunter Biden. So
are you saying Eric Trump was a little better raised
than Hunter was?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yes, yes, far better. And look, I don't blame Hunter honestly,
his father is just the most treacherous and dishonest politician
I think I have ever counted, and deeply selfish. And
so when you know that great tragedy happened in Hunter's

(07:06):
life where his mother who was killed in a car crash,
and his little sister died as well, and he and
his brother were in the back seat quite badly injured.
His father had just been elected to the Senate in
a fluke, and he could have forgone that great opportunity

(07:28):
to stay at home and look after his kids, but
he didn't. And I think all of Hunter's problems stem
from that. He was brought up. You know, his aunt
was very decent, his uncle, extended family brought him up,
and Joe would come home, he claimed every night on
the Amtrak of I hear other stories that when he

(07:49):
did come home, it was too late to do anything
other than, you know, looking on them when they slept.
But anyway, I just don't think he was a very
good father. And and you know, poor poor Hunter, this
motherless kid. And then his stepmother, Jill Biden, when she

(08:10):
came on the scene a few years later, when she
was already on the scene, but when she married Joe
moved in, Hunter just felt she didn't like him, and
so that was another burden to put up with. So
and then his father, you know, instead of letting him
be an author or an artist, which is what he
wanted his father met him be the bag man for

(08:32):
the family and go into business, and he didn't really
want to do that, so you can hardly you can
sort of understand why he fell into drugs.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yes, that's pretty interesting, and you have a good heart
and a good amount of sympathy for him. You should
get her book, Laptop from Hell and The Big Guy,
the two best books on the on the Biden family.
We only got a minute left. Tell me you brought
this up last time. This was so fascinating, had so

(09:04):
much reaction to this. The reason for the Trump arrangement syndrome,
the reason they hate him so much? It's what was it?
You said? It was the masculinity. He's like a daddy.
Why do they hate him so much?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, I mean it really is deranged. It really seems
to be a psychological problem, and women are particularly afflicted,
and it just seems like they have daddy problems. You know,
he is unabashedly a throwback masculine, you know, something that
the Left has been trying to stab out for the

(09:39):
last twenty years, calling it toxic masculinity, making little boys
be ashamed of their intrinsic natures, which you know, those
intrinsic natures are what have allowed civilization to survive, human flourishing.
And you know, you stamp out strong men, what do
you get? You get a lot of toxic And I

(10:01):
think that's what Trump de arrangements and drummy. I mean,
I write about Jennifer Welsh, who's this atheist podcaster I
had never heard of until just recently. She's been elevated
as the kind of Democrats answer to Joe Rogan. And
she is the most toxic person I have ever seen
in my life. Really, just so such a self hating

(10:24):
white woman. She was there at Mamdani's victory party and
she's just going on about She's talking to two non
white people who lefties, and she's just talking about how, oh,
if there were white people here at this party, the
music would be terrible, and Americans have no culture and

(10:45):
we need to teach the crusty old white people about culture.
We have to teach them. She's just scary, scary woman.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Wow. Well, Miranda Devine brilliant as always. Get her a podcast.
You got to listen to this guest every week. It's
pod Force one wherever you get your podcast reader columns,
The New York Post. Make sure you get our latest book,
The Big Guy, fascinating stuff about the Bidens. Miranda Devine. Thanks,
we'll talk again soon.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Thanks Mack, You're very kind.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
All right, take care. Hey, don't forget Buck and Clay.
I do a wonderful show every day noon to three.
Then at three o'clock you got the most listened to
radio show in America, Sean Hannity. I'll be a guest
somewhere today, I think in the final hour on the
Sean Hannity Show. And then you got Jesse Kelly at
six and Jimmy Fayla. Boy, what a great show every

(11:35):
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