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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from wor Now the WR Saturday
Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Here's Larry Minty. Welcome to Saturday Morning. On this week's show,
Scott Jennings, the conservative lion on CNN, has a new
book out about Donald Trump called The Revolution of Common Sense.
He's here to talk about it. Clay Travis also has
a new book out about Trump called Balls, How Trump
Won Men and Democrats Lost Them. Scott Wiener from Scott's
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Pizza Tours tells us about a Brooklyn pizzeria that uncovered
a brick oven from over one hundred years ago and
now uses it to make pizzas. And Movie Minute host
Joe Neumeyer has tips on what to watch this weekend.
But let's start with CNN senior political contributor Scott Jennings. Scott,
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it's great to talk to you again. Thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Hey, I really appreciate this conversation.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Listen, something just happened in New York today that is
a big deal. You know, Zorin Mamdanni is the mayor elect.
I've heard you talk about him before. Everybody was hoping
that Jessica Tish was going to stay on as police
commissioner even though they disagree with each other on just
about every law enforcement policy. We got the great news
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today she is staying on. Does that give you some comfort?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, it doesn't a short term, but I still think
what you said is true. They disagree fundamentally on law enforcement.
I mean, you heard Mamdani repeatedly over the years make
disparaging remarks about law enforcement and his views on criminal
justice in general. He wants fewer police on the street,
but he wants to empty the prisons, and I just
think that's fundamentally at odds with what most people would
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think is a right way to run a criminal justice system.
He's also saying this week he'll have the NYPD or
as Prime Minister NETANYAHUO of Israel if he comes to
New York City. So I wonder what will happen when
some of these operational things, you know, after he takes over, happen.
And I hope Tich stays, but I get a feeling
she's going to be given orders that she simply can't follow.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I don't know if she's going to be giving orders
they gave said they had several meetings, and the fact
that she look she doesn't need him, he needs her,
and so I got a feeling at least, let me
let me enjoy this for a minute, Scott. Let me
just feel like, at least the police department's going to
be in good hands.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I hope you're right, and I pray that you're right.
But I also think this guy's got a ton of
supporters who aren't interested in the kind of police force
that you're interested in, and he's going to be under
a huge amount of political pressure from his base to
do what they thought he said he was going to do.
I hope you're right, and maybe he'll surprise this And
certainly politicians have surprised me in the past. I don't
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think he's going to be one of them, but maybe
he'll be right. And hope springs eternal.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, I'll tell you what, if she's forced to do
anything she doesn't want to do, she's going to leave.
I mean, she's from a billionaire family, doesn't she doesn't
need this job, And I believe she's going to run
for mayor somewhere down the line.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Look, I'm fearful for New York City. I'm fearful the Jewish,
fearful for the Jewish population in New York City. But again, uh,
I'm gonna I'm gonna choose to hope for the best,
but plan for the worst. I spent a lot of
time here now. I'm from Kentucky, but I'm in New
York all the time, so these things matter to me
more now than they ever have.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Well, congratulations to you on the new book, A Revolution
of common sense. I think I can figure out what
you're getting at, But why don't you just explain in.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Case, Well, here's what the deal is. I heard the
President use that phrase in his inaugural address, and I
thought to myself, boy, that'd be a great title for
a book, and it is the perfect way to explain
how he has branded the Republican Party and the conservative
movement since he's come on the scene. And I went
with the President in fact, to Michigan on his hundredth
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day in office, and he said something like to the
in his speech. You know, whether you're on the right,
whether you're on the left, or whatever you are, it's
just common sense. That's how he thinks of himself. You know,
he is a conservative, and he operates mostly as a conservative,
but more more than that, he just thinks of himself
as someone who's trying to act on common sense and
trying to get to outcomes. And so that's why I
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wrote the book, because I think understanding how he thinks
of himself and how he leads is ke to understating
how our government currently operates. So it's really more of
an informational or an educational book. If you want to
learn about how Donald Trump leads the government, this book
has the access and the information for you.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, I agree with you too. I think that he,
like many Americans and especially some young men who were
left out of every conversation when it came to politics
or the last administration, they looked at him and what
he was talking about and just said that made sense.
That's why he won. He won all the swing states
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and he won the popular vote because of that, and
he's carrying through with it.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Absolutely. Look, let's take a few of the issues that
you know, I called him eighty twenty issues. Maybe they're
ninety ten or ninety five to five, like boys and
girls sports, boys and girls' locker rooms. You know, the
Democrats were dedicated to the idea that we just had
to accept that. That's one of a bunch of issues
where people thought, well, that's not common sense, that's nonsense.
And Trump instinctively knew it, and he comes along and
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he latches onto it and says, I'm just gonna do
the common sense thing here. That brought in to his
coalition a bunch of people who did not think of
themselves as Republicans, but they were tired of being told
they had to accept things that they instinctively knew were nonsense.
And so Trump got it. That's part of his political
talent to sort of seize upon those issues, and it
really really helped deliver him the presidency a second time.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, that's one of them. The borders the other one.
What did he do? He closed that on a weekend
after we're told that couldn't be closed, or at least
what else. We were told it was safe, and then
we were told it was too hard to close.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
We had had effectively zero border crossings in this country
for the last five months. I mean think about that.
We had hundreds of thousands of people coming in.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Now we have zero.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Do you have any laws we've passed since Donald Trump
took office on immigration zero, We have not passed a
single new law. You do have a president who's willing
to enforce existing law and tell law enforcement to execute
the laws that are.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
On the books.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
That's the only difference. It was an attitude change, and
it was a change in are we going to follow
the law or are we not. He's following the law.
I don't think it's controversial, frankly to follow the law.
But the impact has been felt immediately. Zero border crossings.
We're also getting rid of some of these people here
on visas that came here to hate America and foment
anger against America and the West. I think it's been
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his best accomplishment is getting the immigration system under control.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Now.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
We have a lot of internal enforcement left to do,
but closing the border alone has been one of his
biggest achievements.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Absolutely. And I love the name of your book about
common sense, because when he stakes a ground in issues
that we just talked about, on issues like we just
talked about that makes so much sense. It forces the
Democrats on the other side of those issues, and they
take debit every single time. Scott.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
One of the dumbest things they do is reflexively oppose
Donald Trump no matter what he does. They never stop
to say, well, wait a minute, would this put us
in a bad position. If we oppose this, they do
it every single time. Immigration's a great example. He says, well,
let's close the border, let's not have people coming in,
and let's get criminal, illegal, violent people out of our country.
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And what do they do. They send their senators to
El Salvador to try to retrieve a guy who's at
MS thirteen and bring him back to Maryland. The Democrats
cannot help themselves. They oppose him reflexively. It is their ideology.
We believe in nothing except opposing Donald Trump at all costs.
I think it hurts their party and hurts their brand.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Well, Scott, thanks for spending time with us. We get
a taste of what the book is all about. A
revolution of common sense by Scott Jennings. That is worth
the read. And we'll look for you on CNN. Thanks
a lot, Scott, thanks a lot.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
It's in bookstores today. Get your copy now, you won't regret.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
It up next. Have you ever had a pizza made
in one hundred and thirty five year old oven? No,
Well now you can, and we'll tell you about it next.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Now, more of the Woor Saturday Morning Show and Larry Mente.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It was Bury behind the Walls for decades until a
Brooklyn pizzaia uncovered a coal oven from the eighteen nineties.
Is it worth going there to have a pizza made
in that oven? We asked Scott Weener from Scott's Pizza
Tours if it's worth the trip. First of all, before
we get to it, Scott, and thanks for joining us.
(08:29):
I understand you're in Montreal right now. Why. Yeah, I'm
in Montreal.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
I'm judging a pizza competition called pizza Fest two day
competition that ended yesterday, and I've probably eaten one thousand
slices of pizza over the past two days.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I don't think Canada is not known for great pizza,
is it.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Well?
Speaker 5 (08:48):
You know what, a lot of places haven't been known
for great pizza, but suddenly are over the past five
to ten years because everybody's watching YouTube videos about how
to make pizza and everybody's finally getting it. So I
gotta tell you, MONTREALI is a serious pizza destination now
that I've spent some time here.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Oh really, so you have a discerning taste? Is there
some there that's maybe even better than what you could
get in New York? It's hard to say better just
because oh come on, no, no, don't quality You know
what I mean, Well.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
You got a qualit, But listen, I'll put it this way.
There's a place that I went to the other day
called Kujenies. Their Grandma Pizza would fit in exactly with
places in New York. There's a place called Forno Pizza
Frankie that is like a temple paying homage to the
famous pizzerias of New York where the guy is basically
like mimicking all these pizzerias in New York City and
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doing a great job.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
So that was great.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
And then I had two New York style pizzas in
the competition from a place called Non Solo Pane and
they were I mean, they would be in the top
tier in New York City. So even though there's not
a ton of it here, there are places that really
stick out, which means there is hope and there is
sunlight for Canada.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It's a very nice way to put it. Before we
get to Lucky Charlie's, let me ask you a question
about pizza and how you rank pizza. What makes a
great pizza in your estimation?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Well, for me, you know, I don't love putting number
rankings on pizzerias, but I do section them off into tiers,
and if it's a top tier pizzeria, then it's got
to be number one, they're paying attention to dough. If
they're not paying attention to dough, it can't be in
that top tier. And I mean it has to be
a well fermented dough that has flavor on its own,
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doesn't just rely on toppings. So that's number one. Number two,
it has to be balanced, So whatever you're doing on
top of that dough, it just has to be done mindfully.
And with those two things combined, I think it's not
that difficult to make a great pizza. Although if you
want to make a great pizza seven days a week,
three hundred sixty five days a year, you got to
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be focused.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
And that's the third piece.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
It's about focus, balance and dough fermentation.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And with that, we want to talk about Lucky Charlie's
because there's a piece he it's that significantly different because
of the oven, and especially an oven that back dates
back to eighteen ninety.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Well, there's a couple of things. Number One, the age
of the oven does not dictate its greatness of the
product coming out of it, because if you've got a
bad pizza maker on a great oven, you're gonna get
bad pizza. Pizza's only as good as the pizza maker.
But that oven is truly classic historic. I think the
first time I ever saw it was maybe twelve or
thirteen years ago, when the guy Charlie Verdie, who's the
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guy who owns the building, called me up and told
me he had this oven underneath the sidewalk. And now
to see it in the hands of a friend of mine,
Nino Conelio, who's the owner of Lucky Charlie.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
He is.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
If you don't know his name, you need to know it.
He's one of the true pizza geniuses. He's won tons
of awards over the past twenty years, and he's nuts,
and those two things combined, you know, that's like the
perfect New York story. He's the guy work in the oven.
So if you go in there and eat a pizza,
it's only three pizzas on the menu. There's nobody more focused,
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and there's nobody who cares more about balance than that guy.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I know that you don't like to put a number
of value on pizzas, but often you rank pizzas. Where
does the pizza at Lucky Charlie's rank.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Lucky Charlie's a top tier easily, and it's because it's
a well made crest. The oven, you know, as I said,
the oven does not make the pizza. But the fact
that it's baking in a large it's a bread oven.
It's not meant for pizza. That place used to be
the Jamus scene of bread bakery in the early nineteen hundreds.
It's a dry oven because it's burning anthracite coal, and
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anthracite gives you that dry exterior crisp with that even
char you know, it's like the flavor when you're eating
good barbecue. And so that place, to me, it's top tier.
But it's also it's a relic. It's a unicorn. I mean,
besides the pizza, it just has to be a special place.
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And you know, unfortunately the oven is below the sidewalk.
You can't see it, but being in the space, you
do get the feeling of it. And if you stand
on the sidewalk out front, you could literally feel it
under your feet.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Are all the pizzas cooked in that oven there?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Every single pizza and a lot of their dishes?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Are you know?
Speaker 5 (13:18):
I stood there one day maybe, I don't know. Four
weeks after he opened, I stood there in the corner
and watched them bake. They did seafood dishes out of
that oven, and they were doing these pizzas, only three
pizzas out of that oven. And it's wild to watch
because a restaurant and a bakery are not set up
in the same way. So the space downstairs is bakery
set up huge room. The oven has to be twelve
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feet deep, which means that the peel, you know, the
shovel that you use to manipulate the pizzas, has to
be fourteen feet deep. So you've got this large, super
long peel that you've got to navigate around this room.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It's it's wild. I wish people could see it down there.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
They got to stick a camera down there.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah. So if you're a pizza a thingdo you're saying
you should take a visit to the Lucky Charlie's.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Yeah, take a visit and go there early, like you know,
I don't know what time they open, four five o'clock.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Get there on the early side.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
See if you can catch Nino. Ask him a question,
challenge him, tell him, I don't think you really have
an of him and then he'll say you got to
trick him, but then he'll show it to you.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
That that's tremendous advice. And I'm just assuming that's a
great impersonation because I've never heard him talk.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Listen, for anybody out there listening who has ever met
this man, you know, my impersonation is one hundred spot on.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Oh thanks so much for your time. Scott Wieders, Scott's
Pizza Tours. Right now, he's enjoying the fine pizza in
Canada apparently. Is the fine pizza in Canada really just
New York pizza?
Speaker 5 (14:54):
It's not, you know, it's they got different tastes up here.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I'll be honest.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
There's a lot of classic like local Mantree pizza that's
just heavy and a lot of topping. But then they've
got some thinner crust stuff that it does seem like
it's New York based. But it's hard to tell, men,
because really most of this evolution has been in the
past few years.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Scott Wiener from Scott's Pizza Tours. Donald Trump won his
second term as president with the help of young male voters.
So how did he win them over? We're gonna ask
WR host Clay Travis, who has a new book out
about it. Still to come on Saturday morning, will Wicked
rule at the box office again? Or can a murder
(15:34):
mystery topple it? WR Movie Minute host Joe Neumeyer tells
us coming up.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Back now to the WR Saturday Morning Show with Larry
MINTI welcome back.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Donald Trump pulled off a stunning victory in twenty twenty four,
and it was fueled by mail voters. So why did
they turn out for Trump in droves? Fox News host
Clay Travis knows, and he wrote a book about Clay.
It's a real pleasure to have you. Thanks for being here.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Great to be on with you, guys. We appreciate being
able to be on your station. But I do think
it's also coming up on the one year anniversary and
the celebration of sanity that was the election of President Trump,
and I've been thinking about not only what the historical
resonance of that win was, but also what it means
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going forward. And that was the impetus behind writing a
book called Balls and for people out there, Yes, it's
really I think also a analysis of how Democrats have
lost men, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic men overwhelmingly broke Trump
and I think it was young men that helped to
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drive that victory. And so this is an examination of that,
but also an attempt to try and figure out where
we're going from here.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, it's a fascinating topic. And definitely the shift of
men was the thing that drove this election. There was
a few other factors, but that was a major factor
that everybody noticed. And you're digging into it, but you
take an interesting tact with this and talk about how
sports plays into that's please explain.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Yeah, So for many people, I would argue the scoreboard
is the last objective reality that people trust, by which
I mean if you're at a game and uh, there
is a somebody shoots a three pointer and they've got
a foot on the line, everybody in the stands recognizes it,
points to it. We have instant replay review to try
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to make sure whether or not a touchdown is scored
and to make sure that the officiating gets the right call.
And no one starts with more points on the scoreboard
because of their race, or their gender, or their socioeconomic status,
and we're all equal within the rules of the sport,
and sports is the ultimate meritocracy, and what I started
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to happen was they tried to bring identity politics to sports,
and for many people, that crystallized in twenty twenty two
when Leah Thomas, a man who swam on the University
of Pennsylvania men's team, decided to switch to become a
woman and then won a women's NCAA title in the
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spring of twenty twenty two while wearing a women's swimsuit
and pretending to be a woman, and then ESPN ran
a laudatory proclamation of Lea Thomas as a hero of
women's sports. Leah Thomas reportedly himself started to say that
he was the Jackie Robinson of women's sports. And so
all of this, I think men in particular just no,
(18:47):
It's one thing if you want to dress up like
a woman and argue that you are a woman. It's
another thing entirely when you have men starting to win
women's championships. And so I think you certainly saw this
with bud lightis well, but there is now a pushback culturally,
I think against the trans insanity.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, doesn't it go beyond that too. I completely agree
with you, but it goes beyond that. The entire culture
wars seem to exclude men. Everything was about some other
demographic and men were excluded, and they wanted to be
part of things again, and they saw the Republican Party
and they saw Donald Trump as a way of being recognized.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
No, I think that's one hundred percent true. I mean, look,
the concept of toxic masculinity is identity politics being defined
as you are wrong and there is something the matter
with you because of your male And I happen to
think a lot about this through the prism of my boys,
because I have three sons, and one of my sons
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early in the process of the writing of this book,
or the germination of the idea that became this book,
we were going into a target and we walked in,
and this is in the book, but he pointed to
the front of the target and he said, Dad, they
would never make those for us. And I wasn't really
paying attention. You know, we're going into target. They were
interested in sports cards at the time, and the shirts
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at the front of the store all said girl power.
And he said they would never make shirts that said
boy power. And I do think for young men, for
those of us who grew up in an era where hey,
women should be able to do everything that men could do.
Be doctors, be lawyers, engineers, everything. People say, yeah, you know,
the sexiest should have equal opportunities to be excellent in
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whatever their chosen profession is. But you don't have to
tear down men to elevate women. That was the step beyond.
And another one of the aspects of this One of
my kids had a friend over and he said, hey,
you know, mister Clay, we're being taught right now that
white men are the cause of so many things that
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are wrong in the country, and that we have all
this power. He said, mister Clay, my mom doesn't even
let me pick what I get to have for dinner.
What power are my teachers talking about? And you know,
it's a funny story, but it's also kind of emblematic
of the world that these young men grew up in
and are growing up in now, where they're being told
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there's something wrong with being male and being.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Manly, and they wanted men to act more feminine many
in many cases, so.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
We tried to create a world where men act more
feminized and women act more masculine, and then we act
surprised that the two sexes are not getting along. Most
women don't want effeminate men, and most men certainly don't
want masculine women. And yet this androgynous sameness seems to
be driving much of this on the left, and I
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think many people out there are pushing back and saying, no,
this is not going to be acceptable.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Well, Clay, it's a fascinating conversation. I'm sure it's a
fascinating book. The book is named Balls, How Trump one
Men and Democrats lost them. It's available now and you
can listen to Clay again along with Buck Sexton from
noon to three right here on WOR. Thanks for your time.
Thanks a lot, Clay, good talking to you.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Appreciate you all having me.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Are you ready for a good movie? Murder Mystery wr
host Joe Newmeyer has got one for you.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Next here again is Larry Minty with the WOR Saturday
Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
It's the holiday long weekend and you have plenty of
time to get out and catch a movie. So what's
on the menu. Let's ask Joe Newmyer Movie Minute host
at War.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
There's a really good film out then, obviously we all
know the previous two films, so I want to still
give it a good shout out. It's called Wake Up
dead Man. It's the Knives Out movie. It's the third
and the Knives Out movie series that have been done
with Daniel Craig as the Louisiana detective Beno A Brong.
He's got this great, crazy, kind of southern drawl. And
this one is just as good as the other two.
(22:58):
I think these movies keep getting better. The first one
is Knives Out, came out in twenty nineteen, kind of
set people going on like, oh right. These are original
mystery movies that the writer director Ryan Johnson has done.
They're sort of in the style of The Great Egg.
It's the Christie mysteries, right like on the Oran Express
or Death Found the Nile, which are both favorites of
minds in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I love those.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Well, these movies are really just as good. They sort
of are. They're like little mouse trap that you have
to figure out. And in this one, Daniel Craig's detective
blog goes to an upstate New York little upstate New
York town. There's been a murder in a church and
there's been a monsignor who's played by Josh Brolin. This
is not a This is all obviously all in the trailer.
I'm not getting anything away. Josh Brolin and he's been
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killed inside of like a secret room inside of the church.
And of course like there's a whole group of suspects
that he's got to figure out who did it? Was
it Jeremy Renner, was it Glenn Close? Was it Josh
O'Connor and Mila Kunis. So it's all these great characters
around and in the middle of it is this sort
of great cozy sort of space that sort of feel
like you're inside of an Agasa Christie mystery. And the
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last one Glass On You, and I thought was really good.
That was twenty twenty two. This one is just as good.
I'm giving you a solid three stars. It's hard to
get to a four star. I'm almost at four stars
on this one. I mean I probably probably should have
given it. Yeah, I should have given it that one
extra star just for maybe what's maybe missing is originality.
I think I gave the First Knives of four stars.
But it's a great mystery for the family if you
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want to kind of figure things out, if you kind
of like those kind of cozy mystery things. This one
is just right up there. So Wake Up dead Man.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Now, if you haven't seen the first two. If you
haven't seen the first two, does this still make sense?
You can go watch this Thrush.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yep, totally makes sense. None of the care. This is
something that people have often asked. They're like, do characters
show up from the previous movie like this Jamie Lee
Curtis show up because she was in the first one. No, like,
there's there's no recurring characters in any of these, which
I think is sort of a smart touch. It's really
just a Daniel Craig character, and he's just this detective
who shows up and figures it out. And I think
that that adds to it. It kind of keeps each
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one sort of individual and distinct. And and I just
really I just think these movies are really smart. They're
fun mysteries, and how often do we see something original
at the movies?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Right?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
It's not. These are not based on any previous existing
books or anything or TV shows. They're just wholly original
things that he wanted to write. So three, you know,
enthusiastic stars for for Wake Up dead Man. The Knives
Out movie really good?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Really, Now, why do I believe that Wicked for Good
is still going to dominate at the box office.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
It's probably because if it's almost Landmark backs office weekend
last weekend, right, I mean it was. I think it's
the second biggest of the year after the Minecraft movie,
the biggest musical I think since Chicago. I'm not sure
if Chicago's opening weekend beat it, but it's I mean,
Wicked for Good is the is a juggernaut for at
least another two weeks and good for families, great to
(25:51):
see before the holiday, crazy on the holiday, and I
think that it's people have made an event out of this.
If you've been at a movie theater since it opened,
like it's filled with kids all dressed up and everything
like that. So you know, that's great to see people
going back to the box It's been a tough year
at the box office. Great to see people going to
the multiplex and having a good time like that.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Is there a smaller movie out there, because a lot
of times some great movies get released this time of
year that nobody gets to say because the bigger movies
take over. Is there a smaller movie out there that
you would recommend?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yeah, there's one called Train Dreams that's really good. That's
also actually just started on Netflix, so I would really
recommend it. There's actually two of them, so that I
would recommend, but I would recommend it on the big screen.
Train Dreams it's a really interesting and lyrical movie about
a guy who started in the as a logger and
working on trains in like the nineteen twenties, and it
kind of his life kind of goes on through the sixties.
(26:43):
It's really interesting. Then there's one called Rental Family that's
really kind of nice with Brendan Fraser, where he plays
an American actor in Japan who's hired to sort of
be an extra at things like weddings or funerals or
things like that. This is actually a real thing in
Japan too, so to kind of make people kind of
feel that they've got a big crowd at these things,
(27:03):
and he kind of gets involved in people's lives. So
Rental Family is really sweet, and Train Dreams is really
kind of a beautiful piece of art. That all of
those are are really good. And then of course it's
the Thanksgiving movies that we all have to watch on Thanksgiving,
right like Planes, Trains.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
In Aubule, Oh yeah, stole my only one I was
gonna say that was that that's by far the best
Thanksgiving movie I believe.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
I totally agree. And you know, there's this great documentary
out now about John Candy, and you know that sort
of adds to it. When you see that documentary and
you watch planes, trains and automobiles, he just like that.
That the energy between him and Steve Martin's funny, it's sweet.
It's John Hughes best film, if you ask me. It's
one of the great films in the late eighties that
came out in eighty seven. Such a great, a great
(27:45):
Thanksgiving movie. Another one I throw I want to throw
out there though it's just people forget about it. It's
Senti a Woman, SENSI a Woman, the movie that got
al Pacino the Oscar after you know, like six nominations
he finally won for that. That's also it's about, you know,
the student taking around a crane blind lieutenant colonel around
New York on Thanksgiving. So that's also a great.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Another one of my favorite movies. I will if that
monologue that Pacino does at the end of that movie
is on, I stay and watch it every single time.
I thought that was genius. Did he win Best Actor
for that.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
He did. He won Best Actor for that. He's been
nominated about nine times and like three or four times
since then. But up until that time he had been
nominated like six times, including for both Godfather films and
Dog Day Afternoon and a few other things, and oddly
enough Dick Tracy. He's fun in Dick Tracy. But he
got an Oscar nomination for that, so that was like
his sixth nomination and he finally won you and he's terrific,
And even the scene where he teaches the girl to dance,
(28:40):
where dances a tango with her, you know, it's a
great actors moment, right, So that's also a great Thanksgiving
movie and a New York movie too, which is also true.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
The whole movie was just from beginning to end, is
a perfect movie. I love Set of a Woman. As
a matter of fact, I'll put that ahead of planes, trains.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
On automobiles, well only plays trains. I feel like it's
sort of the easy one to go to, right or
it's on all the time. It's on like twenty first,
kind of like a Christmas story. You kind of cantern
on the TV on Thanksgiving without finding it on and
I also just want to throw one in there for
Miracle on thirty four Street. People forget it's obviously a
Christmas movie, but it begins at the Thanksgiving Day for
the original, of course, in nineteen forty seven Black and
(29:16):
White Miracle on thirty fourth Street.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Oh that's right, it does start in the Thanksgiving You're
absolutely right. I forgot all about that.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Right right. Santon's brunk at the parade, so she has
to find a new Santa, and she actually finds the
Santa to be. That's a great bill.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Enjoy the movies and as always, we just appreciate you
so much.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Thanks so much, Joe.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Neumeyer, film journalist and wo R movie Minute host. That
wraps up Saturday Morning for this week. Thanks for listening,
and thanks to Peter Arolano for putting the show together
every week. Have a great rest of your weekend. This
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Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Here's Larry Minty. Welcome to Saturday Morning. On this week's show,
Scott Jennings, the conservative lion on CNN, has a new
book out about Donald Trump called The Revolution of Common Sense.
He's here to talk about it. Clay Travis also has
a new book out about Trump called Balls, How Trump
Won Men and Democrats Lost Them. Scott Wiener from Scott's
(00:31):
Pizza Tours tells us about a Brooklyn pizzeria that uncovered
a brick oven from over one hundred years ago and
now uses it to make pizzas. And Movie Minute host
Joe Neumeyer has tips on what to watch this weekend.
But let's start with CNN senior political contributor Scott Jennings. Scott,
(00:52):
it's great to talk to you again. Thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Hey, I really appreciate this conversation.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Listen, something just happened in New York today that is
a big deal. You know, Zorin Mamdanni is the mayor elect.
I've heard you talk about him before. Everybody was hoping
that Jessica Tish was going to stay on as police
commissioner even though they disagree with each other on just
about every law enforcement policy. We got the great news
(01:18):
today she is staying on. Does that give you some comfort?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, it doesn't a short term, but I still think
what you said is true. They disagree fundamentally on law enforcement.
I mean, you heard Mamdani repeatedly over the years make
disparaging remarks about law enforcement and his views on criminal
justice in general. He wants fewer police on the street,
but he wants to empty the prisons, and I just
think that's fundamentally at odds with what most people would
(01:46):
think is a right way to run a criminal justice system.
He's also saying this week he'll have the NYPD or
as Prime Minister NETANYAHUO of Israel if he comes to
New York City. So I wonder what will happen when
some of these operational things, you know, after he takes over, happen.
And I hope Tich stays, but I get a feeling
she's going to be given orders that she simply can't follow.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I don't know if she's going to be giving orders
they gave said they had several meetings, and the fact
that she look she doesn't need him, he needs her,
and so I got a feeling at least, let me
let me enjoy this for a minute, Scott. Let me
just feel like, at least the police department's going to
be in good hands.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I hope you're right, and I pray that you're right.
But I also think this guy's got a ton of
supporters who aren't interested in the kind of police force
that you're interested in, and he's going to be under
a huge amount of political pressure from his base to
do what they thought he said he was going to do.
I hope you're right, and maybe he'll surprise this And
certainly politicians have surprised me in the past. I don't
(02:44):
think he's going to be one of them, but maybe
he'll be right. And hope springs eternal.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, I'll tell you what, if she's forced to do
anything she doesn't want to do, she's going to leave.
I mean, she's from a billionaire family, doesn't she doesn't
need this job, And I believe she's going to run
for mayor somewhere down the line.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Look, I'm fearful for New York City. I'm fearful the Jewish,
fearful for the Jewish population in New York City. But again, uh,
I'm gonna I'm gonna choose to hope for the best,
but plan for the worst. I spent a lot of
time here now. I'm from Kentucky, but I'm in New
York all the time, so these things matter to me
more now than they ever have.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Well, congratulations to you on the new book, A Revolution
of common sense. I think I can figure out what
you're getting at, But why don't you just explain in.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Case, Well, here's what the deal is. I heard the
President use that phrase in his inaugural address, and I
thought to myself, boy, that'd be a great title for
a book, and it is the perfect way to explain
how he has branded the Republican Party and the conservative
movement since he's come on the scene. And I went
with the President in fact, to Michigan on his hundredth
(03:44):
day in office, and he said something like to the
in his speech. You know, whether you're on the right,
whether you're on the left, or whatever you are, it's
just common sense. That's how he thinks of himself. You know,
he is a conservative, and he operates mostly as a conservative,
but more more than that, he just thinks of himself
as someone who's trying to act on common sense and
trying to get to outcomes. And so that's why I
(04:06):
wrote the book, because I think understanding how he thinks
of himself and how he leads is ke to understating
how our government currently operates. So it's really more of
an informational or an educational book. If you want to
learn about how Donald Trump leads the government, this book
has the access and the information for you.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, I agree with you too. I think that he,
like many Americans and especially some young men who were
left out of every conversation when it came to politics
or the last administration, they looked at him and what
he was talking about and just said that made sense.
That's why he won. He won all the swing states
(04:42):
and he won the popular vote because of that, and
he's carrying through with it.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Absolutely. Look, let's take a few of the issues that
you know, I called him eighty twenty issues. Maybe they're
ninety ten or ninety five to five, like boys and
girls sports, boys and girls' locker rooms. You know, the
Democrats were dedicated to the idea that we just had
to accept that. That's one of a bunch of issues
where people thought, well, that's not common sense, that's nonsense.
And Trump instinctively knew it, and he comes along and
(05:09):
he latches onto it and says, I'm just gonna do
the common sense thing here. That brought in to his
coalition a bunch of people who did not think of
themselves as Republicans, but they were tired of being told
they had to accept things that they instinctively knew were nonsense.
And so Trump got it. That's part of his political
talent to sort of seize upon those issues, and it
really really helped deliver him the presidency a second time.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, that's one of them. The borders the other one.
What did he do? He closed that on a weekend
after we're told that couldn't be closed, or at least
what else. We were told it was safe, and then
we were told it was too hard to close.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
We had had effectively zero border crossings in this country
for the last five months. I mean think about that.
We had hundreds of thousands of people coming in.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Now we have zero.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Do you have any laws we've passed since Donald Trump
took office on immigration zero, We have not passed a
single new law. You do have a president who's willing
to enforce existing law and tell law enforcement to execute
the laws that are.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
On the books.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
That's the only difference. It was an attitude change, and
it was a change in are we going to follow
the law or are we not. He's following the law.
I don't think it's controversial, frankly to follow the law.
But the impact has been felt immediately. Zero border crossings.
We're also getting rid of some of these people here
on visas that came here to hate America and foment
anger against America and the West. I think it's been
(06:28):
his best accomplishment is getting the immigration system under control.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Now.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
We have a lot of internal enforcement left to do,
but closing the border alone has been one of his
biggest achievements.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Absolutely. And I love the name of your book about
common sense, because when he stakes a ground in issues
that we just talked about, on issues like we just
talked about that makes so much sense. It forces the
Democrats on the other side of those issues, and they
take debit every single time. Scott.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
One of the dumbest things they do is reflexively oppose
Donald Trump no matter what he does. They never stop
to say, well, wait a minute, would this put us
in a bad position. If we oppose this, they do
it every single time. Immigration's a great example. He says, well,
let's close the border, let's not have people coming in,
and let's get criminal, illegal, violent people out of our country.
(07:18):
And what do they do. They send their senators to
El Salvador to try to retrieve a guy who's at
MS thirteen and bring him back to Maryland. The Democrats
cannot help themselves. They oppose him reflexively. It is their ideology.
We believe in nothing except opposing Donald Trump at all costs.
I think it hurts their party and hurts their brand.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Well, Scott, thanks for spending time with us. We get
a taste of what the book is all about. A
revolution of common sense by Scott Jennings. That is worth
the read. And we'll look for you on CNN. Thanks
a lot, Scott, thanks a lot.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
It's in bookstores today. Get your copy now, you won't regret.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
It up next. Have you ever had a pizza made
in one hundred and thirty five year old oven? No,
Well now you can, and we'll tell you about it next.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Now, more of the Woor Saturday Morning Show and Larry Mente.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It was Bury behind the Walls for decades until a
Brooklyn pizzaia uncovered a coal oven from the eighteen nineties.
Is it worth going there to have a pizza made
in that oven? We asked Scott Weener from Scott's Pizza
Tours if it's worth the trip. First of all, before
we get to it, Scott, and thanks for joining us.
(08:29):
I understand you're in Montreal right now. Why. Yeah, I'm
in Montreal.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
I'm judging a pizza competition called pizza Fest two day
competition that ended yesterday, and I've probably eaten one thousand
slices of pizza over the past two days.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I don't think Canada is not known for great pizza,
is it.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Well?
Speaker 5 (08:48):
You know what, a lot of places haven't been known
for great pizza, but suddenly are over the past five
to ten years because everybody's watching YouTube videos about how
to make pizza and everybody's finally getting it. So I
gotta tell you, MONTREALI is a serious pizza destination now
that I've spent some time here.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Oh really, so you have a discerning taste? Is there
some there that's maybe even better than what you could
get in New York? It's hard to say better just
because oh come on, no, no, don't quality You know
what I mean, Well.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
You got a qualit, But listen, I'll put it this way.
There's a place that I went to the other day
called Kujenies. Their Grandma Pizza would fit in exactly with
places in New York. There's a place called Forno Pizza
Frankie that is like a temple paying homage to the
famous pizzerias of New York where the guy is basically
like mimicking all these pizzerias in New York City and
(09:38):
doing a great job.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
So that was great.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
And then I had two New York style pizzas in
the competition from a place called Non Solo Pane and
they were I mean, they would be in the top
tier in New York City. So even though there's not
a ton of it here, there are places that really
stick out, which means there is hope and there is
sunlight for Canada.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It's a very nice way to put it. Before we
get to Lucky Charlie's, let me ask you a question
about pizza and how you rank pizza. What makes a
great pizza in your estimation?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Well, for me, you know, I don't love putting number
rankings on pizzerias, but I do section them off into tiers,
and if it's a top tier pizzeria, then it's got
to be number one, they're paying attention to dough. If
they're not paying attention to dough, it can't be in
that top tier. And I mean it has to be
a well fermented dough that has flavor on its own,
(10:31):
doesn't just rely on toppings. So that's number one. Number two,
it has to be balanced, So whatever you're doing on
top of that dough, it just has to be done mindfully.
And with those two things combined, I think it's not
that difficult to make a great pizza. Although if you
want to make a great pizza seven days a week,
three hundred sixty five days a year, you got to
(10:51):
be focused.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
And that's the third piece.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
It's about focus, balance and dough fermentation.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And with that, we want to talk about Lucky Charlie's
because there's a piece he it's that significantly different because
of the oven, and especially an oven that back dates
back to eighteen ninety.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Well, there's a couple of things. Number One, the age
of the oven does not dictate its greatness of the
product coming out of it, because if you've got a
bad pizza maker on a great oven, you're gonna get
bad pizza. Pizza's only as good as the pizza maker.
But that oven is truly classic historic. I think the
first time I ever saw it was maybe twelve or
thirteen years ago, when the guy Charlie Verdie, who's the
(11:31):
guy who owns the building, called me up and told
me he had this oven underneath the sidewalk. And now
to see it in the hands of a friend of mine,
Nino Conelio, who's the owner of Lucky Charlie.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
He is.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
If you don't know his name, you need to know it.
He's one of the true pizza geniuses. He's won tons
of awards over the past twenty years, and he's nuts,
and those two things combined, you know, that's like the
perfect New York story. He's the guy work in the oven.
So if you go in there and eat a pizza,
it's only three pizzas on the menu. There's nobody more focused,
(12:05):
and there's nobody who cares more about balance than that guy.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I know that you don't like to put a number
of value on pizzas, but often you rank pizzas. Where
does the pizza at Lucky Charlie's rank.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Lucky Charlie's a top tier easily, and it's because it's
a well made crest. The oven, you know, as I said,
the oven does not make the pizza. But the fact
that it's baking in a large it's a bread oven.
It's not meant for pizza. That place used to be
the Jamus scene of bread bakery in the early nineteen hundreds.
It's a dry oven because it's burning anthracite coal, and
(12:41):
anthracite gives you that dry exterior crisp with that even
char you know, it's like the flavor when you're eating
good barbecue. And so that place, to me, it's top tier.
But it's also it's a relic. It's a unicorn. I mean,
besides the pizza, it just has to be a special place.
(13:02):
And you know, unfortunately the oven is below the sidewalk.
You can't see it, but being in the space, you
do get the feeling of it. And if you stand
on the sidewalk out front, you could literally feel it
under your feet.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Are all the pizzas cooked in that oven there?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Every single pizza and a lot of their dishes?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Are you know?
Speaker 5 (13:18):
I stood there one day maybe, I don't know. Four
weeks after he opened, I stood there in the corner
and watched them bake. They did seafood dishes out of
that oven, and they were doing these pizzas, only three
pizzas out of that oven. And it's wild to watch
because a restaurant and a bakery are not set up
in the same way. So the space downstairs is bakery
set up huge room. The oven has to be twelve
(13:40):
feet deep, which means that the peel, you know, the
shovel that you use to manipulate the pizzas, has to
be fourteen feet deep. So you've got this large, super
long peel that you've got to navigate around this room.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It's it's wild. I wish people could see it down there.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
They got to stick a camera down there.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah. So if you're a pizza a thingdo you're saying
you should take a visit to the Lucky Charlie's.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Yeah, take a visit and go there early, like you know,
I don't know what time they open, four five o'clock.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Get there on the early side.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
See if you can catch Nino. Ask him a question,
challenge him, tell him, I don't think you really have
an of him and then he'll say you got to
trick him, but then he'll show it to you.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
That that's tremendous advice. And I'm just assuming that's a
great impersonation because I've never heard him talk.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Listen, for anybody out there listening who has ever met
this man, you know, my impersonation is one hundred spot on.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Oh thanks so much for your time. Scott Wieders, Scott's
Pizza Tours. Right now, he's enjoying the fine pizza in
Canada apparently. Is the fine pizza in Canada really just
New York pizza?
Speaker 5 (14:54):
It's not, you know, it's they got different tastes up here.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I'll be honest.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
There's a lot of classic like local Mantree pizza that's
just heavy and a lot of topping. But then they've
got some thinner crust stuff that it does seem like
it's New York based. But it's hard to tell, men,
because really most of this evolution has been in the
past few years.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Scott Wiener from Scott's Pizza Tours. Donald Trump won his
second term as president with the help of young male voters.
So how did he win them over? We're gonna ask
WR host Clay Travis, who has a new book out
about it. Still to come on Saturday morning, will Wicked
rule at the box office again? Or can a murder
(15:34):
mystery topple it? WR Movie Minute host Joe Neumeyer tells
us coming up.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Back now to the WR Saturday Morning Show with Larry
MINTI welcome back.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Donald Trump pulled off a stunning victory in twenty twenty four,
and it was fueled by mail voters. So why did
they turn out for Trump in droves? Fox News host
Clay Travis knows, and he wrote a book about Clay.
It's a real pleasure to have you. Thanks for being here.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Great to be on with you, guys. We appreciate being
able to be on your station. But I do think
it's also coming up on the one year anniversary and
the celebration of sanity that was the election of President Trump,
and I've been thinking about not only what the historical
resonance of that win was, but also what it means
(16:25):
going forward. And that was the impetus behind writing a
book called Balls and for people out there, Yes, it's
really I think also a analysis of how Democrats have
lost men, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic men overwhelmingly broke Trump
and I think it was young men that helped to
(16:48):
drive that victory. And so this is an examination of that,
but also an attempt to try and figure out where
we're going from here.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, it's a fascinating topic. And definitely the shift of
men was the thing that drove this election. There was
a few other factors, but that was a major factor
that everybody noticed. And you're digging into it, but you
take an interesting tact with this and talk about how
sports plays into that's please explain.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Yeah, So for many people, I would argue the scoreboard
is the last objective reality that people trust, by which
I mean if you're at a game and uh, there
is a somebody shoots a three pointer and they've got
a foot on the line, everybody in the stands recognizes it,
points to it. We have instant replay review to try
(17:38):
to make sure whether or not a touchdown is scored
and to make sure that the officiating gets the right call.
And no one starts with more points on the scoreboard
because of their race, or their gender, or their socioeconomic status,
and we're all equal within the rules of the sport,
and sports is the ultimate meritocracy, and what I started
(17:59):
to happen was they tried to bring identity politics to sports,
and for many people, that crystallized in twenty twenty two
when Leah Thomas, a man who swam on the University
of Pennsylvania men's team, decided to switch to become a
woman and then won a women's NCAA title in the
(18:23):
spring of twenty twenty two while wearing a women's swimsuit
and pretending to be a woman, and then ESPN ran
a laudatory proclamation of Lea Thomas as a hero of
women's sports. Leah Thomas reportedly himself started to say that
he was the Jackie Robinson of women's sports. And so
all of this, I think men in particular just no,
(18:47):
It's one thing if you want to dress up like
a woman and argue that you are a woman. It's
another thing entirely when you have men starting to win
women's championships. And so I think you certainly saw this
with bud lightis well, but there is now a pushback culturally,
I think against the trans insanity.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, doesn't it go beyond that too. I completely agree
with you, but it goes beyond that. The entire culture
wars seem to exclude men. Everything was about some other
demographic and men were excluded, and they wanted to be
part of things again, and they saw the Republican Party
and they saw Donald Trump as a way of being recognized.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
No, I think that's one hundred percent true. I mean, look,
the concept of toxic masculinity is identity politics being defined
as you are wrong and there is something the matter
with you because of your male And I happen to
think a lot about this through the prism of my boys,
because I have three sons, and one of my sons
(19:48):
early in the process of the writing of this book,
or the germination of the idea that became this book,
we were going into a target and we walked in,
and this is in the book, but he pointed to
the front of the target and he said, Dad, they
would never make those for us. And I wasn't really
paying attention. You know, we're going into target. They were
interested in sports cards at the time, and the shirts
(20:12):
at the front of the store all said girl power.
And he said they would never make shirts that said
boy power. And I do think for young men, for
those of us who grew up in an era where hey,
women should be able to do everything that men could do.
Be doctors, be lawyers, engineers, everything. People say, yeah, you know,
the sexiest should have equal opportunities to be excellent in
(20:35):
whatever their chosen profession is. But you don't have to
tear down men to elevate women. That was the step beyond.
And another one of the aspects of this One of
my kids had a friend over and he said, hey,
you know, mister Clay, we're being taught right now that
white men are the cause of so many things that
(20:56):
are wrong in the country, and that we have all
this power. He said, mister Clay, my mom doesn't even
let me pick what I get to have for dinner.
What power are my teachers talking about? And you know,
it's a funny story, but it's also kind of emblematic
of the world that these young men grew up in
and are growing up in now, where they're being told
(21:19):
there's something wrong with being male and being.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Manly, and they wanted men to act more feminine many
in many cases, so.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
We tried to create a world where men act more
feminized and women act more masculine, and then we act
surprised that the two sexes are not getting along. Most
women don't want effeminate men, and most men certainly don't
want masculine women. And yet this androgynous sameness seems to
be driving much of this on the left, and I
(21:48):
think many people out there are pushing back and saying, no,
this is not going to be acceptable.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Well, Clay, it's a fascinating conversation. I'm sure it's a
fascinating book. The book is named Balls, How Trump one
Men and Democrats lost them. It's available now and you
can listen to Clay again along with Buck Sexton from
noon to three right here on WOR. Thanks for your time.
Thanks a lot, Clay, good talking to you.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Appreciate you all having me.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Are you ready for a good movie? Murder Mystery wr
host Joe Newmeyer has got one for you.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Next here again is Larry Minty with the WOR Saturday
Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
It's the holiday long weekend and you have plenty of
time to get out and catch a movie. So what's
on the menu. Let's ask Joe Newmyer Movie Minute host
at War.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
There's a really good film out then, obviously we all
know the previous two films, so I want to still
give it a good shout out. It's called Wake Up
dead Man. It's the Knives Out movie. It's the third
and the Knives Out movie series that have been done
with Daniel Craig as the Louisiana detective Beno A Brong.
He's got this great, crazy, kind of southern drawl. And
this one is just as good as the other two.
(22:58):
I think these movies keep getting better. The first one
is Knives Out, came out in twenty nineteen, kind of
set people going on like, oh right. These are original
mystery movies that the writer director Ryan Johnson has done.
They're sort of in the style of The Great Egg.
It's the Christie mysteries, right like on the Oran Express
or Death Found the Nile, which are both favorites of
minds in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I love those.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Well, these movies are really just as good. They sort
of are. They're like little mouse trap that you have
to figure out. And in this one, Daniel Craig's detective
blog goes to an upstate New York little upstate New
York town. There's been a murder in a church and
there's been a monsignor who's played by Josh Brolin. This
is not a This is all obviously all in the trailer.
I'm not getting anything away. Josh Brolin and he's been
(23:40):
killed inside of like a secret room inside of the church.
And of course like there's a whole group of suspects
that he's got to figure out who did it? Was
it Jeremy Renner, was it Glenn Close? Was it Josh
O'Connor and Mila Kunis. So it's all these great characters
around and in the middle of it is this sort
of great cozy sort of space that sort of feel
like you're inside of an Agasa Christie mystery. And the
(24:03):
last one Glass On You, and I thought was really good.
That was twenty twenty two. This one is just as good.
I'm giving you a solid three stars. It's hard to
get to a four star. I'm almost at four stars
on this one. I mean I probably probably should have
given it. Yeah, I should have given it that one
extra star just for maybe what's maybe missing is originality.
I think I gave the First Knives of four stars.
But it's a great mystery for the family if you
(24:24):
want to kind of figure things out, if you kind
of like those kind of cozy mystery things. This one
is just right up there. So Wake Up dead Man.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Now, if you haven't seen the first two. If you
haven't seen the first two, does this still make sense?
You can go watch this Thrush.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yep, totally makes sense. None of the care. This is
something that people have often asked. They're like, do characters
show up from the previous movie like this Jamie Lee
Curtis show up because she was in the first one. No, like,
there's there's no recurring characters in any of these, which
I think is sort of a smart touch. It's really
just a Daniel Craig character, and he's just this detective
who shows up and figures it out. And I think
that that adds to it. It kind of keeps each
(24:59):
one sort of individual and distinct. And and I just
really I just think these movies are really smart. They're
fun mysteries, and how often do we see something original
at the movies?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Right?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
It's not. These are not based on any previous existing
books or anything or TV shows. They're just wholly original
things that he wanted to write. So three, you know,
enthusiastic stars for for Wake Up dead Man. The Knives
Out movie really good?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Really, Now, why do I believe that Wicked for Good
is still going to dominate at the box office.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
It's probably because if it's almost Landmark backs office weekend
last weekend, right, I mean it was. I think it's
the second biggest of the year after the Minecraft movie,
the biggest musical I think since Chicago. I'm not sure
if Chicago's opening weekend beat it, but it's I mean,
Wicked for Good is the is a juggernaut for at
least another two weeks and good for families, great to
(25:51):
see before the holiday, crazy on the holiday, and I
think that it's people have made an event out of this.
If you've been at a movie theater since it opened,
like it's filled with kids all dressed up and everything
like that. So you know, that's great to see people
going back to the box It's been a tough year
at the box office. Great to see people going to
the multiplex and having a good time like that.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Is there a smaller movie out there, because a lot
of times some great movies get released this time of
year that nobody gets to say because the bigger movies
take over. Is there a smaller movie out there that
you would recommend?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yeah, there's one called Train Dreams that's really good. That's
also actually just started on Netflix, so I would really
recommend it. There's actually two of them, so that I
would recommend, but I would recommend it on the big screen.
Train Dreams it's a really interesting and lyrical movie about
a guy who started in the as a logger and
working on trains in like the nineteen twenties, and it
kind of his life kind of goes on through the sixties.
(26:43):
It's really interesting. Then there's one called Rental Family that's
really kind of nice with Brendan Fraser, where he plays
an American actor in Japan who's hired to sort of
be an extra at things like weddings or funerals or
things like that. This is actually a real thing in
Japan too, so to kind of make people kind of
feel that they've got a big crowd at these things,
(27:03):
and he kind of gets involved in people's lives. So
Rental Family is really sweet, and Train Dreams is really
kind of a beautiful piece of art. That all of
those are are really good. And then of course it's
the Thanksgiving movies that we all have to watch on Thanksgiving,
right like Planes, Trains.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
In Aubule, Oh yeah, stole my only one I was
gonna say that was that that's by far the best
Thanksgiving movie I believe.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
I totally agree. And you know, there's this great documentary
out now about John Candy, and you know that sort
of adds to it. When you see that documentary and
you watch planes, trains and automobiles, he just like that.
That the energy between him and Steve Martin's funny, it's sweet.
It's John Hughes best film, if you ask me. It's
one of the great films in the late eighties that
came out in eighty seven. Such a great, a great
(27:45):
Thanksgiving movie. Another one I throw I want to throw
out there though it's just people forget about it. It's
Senti a Woman, SENSI a Woman, the movie that got
al Pacino the Oscar after you know, like six nominations
he finally won for that. That's also it's about, you know,
the student taking around a crane blind lieutenant colonel around
New York on Thanksgiving. So that's also a great.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Another one of my favorite movies. I will if that
monologue that Pacino does at the end of that movie
is on, I stay and watch it every single time.
I thought that was genius. Did he win Best Actor
for that.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
He did. He won Best Actor for that. He's been
nominated about nine times and like three or four times
since then. But up until that time he had been
nominated like six times, including for both Godfather films and
Dog Day Afternoon and a few other things, and oddly
enough Dick Tracy. He's fun in Dick Tracy. But he
got an Oscar nomination for that, so that was like
his sixth nomination and he finally won you and he's terrific,
And even the scene where he teaches the girl to dance,
(28:40):
where dances a tango with her, you know, it's a
great actors moment, right, So that's also a great Thanksgiving
movie and a New York movie too, which is also true.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
The whole movie was just from beginning to end, is
a perfect movie. I love Set of a Woman. As
a matter of fact, I'll put that ahead of planes, trains.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
On automobiles, well only plays trains. I feel like it's
sort of the easy one to go to, right or
it's on all the time. It's on like twenty first,
kind of like a Christmas story. You kind of cantern
on the TV on Thanksgiving without finding it on and
I also just want to throw one in there for
Miracle on thirty four Street. People forget it's obviously a
Christmas movie, but it begins at the Thanksgiving Day for
the original, of course, in nineteen forty seven Black and
(29:16):
White Miracle on thirty fourth Street.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Oh that's right, it does start in the Thanksgiving You're
absolutely right. I forgot all about that.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Right right. Santon's brunk at the parade, so she has
to find a new Santa, and she actually finds the
Santa to be. That's a great bill.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Enjoy the movies and as always, we just appreciate you
so much.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Thanks so much, Joe.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Neumeyer, film journalist and wo R movie Minute host. That
wraps up Saturday Morning for this week. Thanks for listening,
and thanks to Peter Arolano for putting the show together
every week. Have a great rest of your weekend. This
has been a podcast from WOOR
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