July 12, 2026 • 27 mins
Alex Isley Reveals How Heartbreak, Synesthesia, and Motherhood Shape Her Music
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
It's about one five one alex Eisley's I guess.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Thank you for having me, and.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
She wore her nick colored uh my nick blue clip,
her blue clip.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
It's also her color though, you know what I mean.
But she's in theme, so we love that. Hi, honey, Hi,
nice to meet you.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Nice to meet you.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Welcome to us, our city. I know you've been here
a lot. Actually, I know you're actually originally from here. Yes,
New Jersey, not New York. But that's our sister brother.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yes exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But you left early, right, they got you out of here.
I did what happened.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm an honorary LA native, but I was born in
Bergen County.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
In Bergen County, New Jersey, you could we could have
claimed we almost could have claimed you. Then you went
to LA and you mostly grew up there, right, Yeah, yeah,
you grew up in Isley, which is pretty cool. Yes,
when you're in school and they call your name, is
everybody like do people know that you have like a
normal childhood or did you have like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
There's definitely a bit of fascination, I think, especially once.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
It's a good name.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, it's a great name. I'm always proud of it.
But yeah, I think once, once they kind of made
the researchences Isley Brothers and mister Biggs and that whole
part of the catalog. Then the kids my age are like, oh, like,
you're a part of this family. And then that's when
I understood, like, yeah, it was a big deal.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It's a big deal. It's a big deal. No, I'm
sure you've talked about this a ton, but this is
our first time meeting. So yeah, so no reservations like
growing up, I mean, no fear about stepping into that
name and using that name and how that would I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Not any weight on that, I think internally for sure.
But I think I've always been proud of the lineage
and and what they do, what they're still doing.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I've always been proud to have the last name and
developed the love for music and writing and performing on
my own at an early age.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
What what was that?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Like you?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Was it in the house?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Was it everywhere? Was it everywhere? Yeah? And on my
mom's side too. My my maternal grandmother was an opera singer,
So she was training me classically.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
She was training you classically at what age?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Started when I was twelve.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Oh wow, so you were born and bred.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, it was choiceful, getting the technical part of things
on my mom's side and then the soul and r
and be on my dad's side. And yeah, it was
everywhere and here you are.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And then when do you start to take all those
ingredients and find your own kind of I don't know, soup.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I think I think that just happened over over time
since I was little. But I think I really came
into my own as a as an artist. I think
starting in college and you know, go to heartbreak. I
went to u c L a good old fashioned heartbreak
and I was down bad, and I feel like the
only way I could get over this was to write
(03:09):
about it. And that was the beginning.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Of course music.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, yeah, that was really the beginning of me finding
my voice.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, that is when the best music happens, right, That's
what they say. Yeah, sadly, so when you say you
were down bad, yeah, people, you know, down bad is
levels to it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. College,
it could go it could go down bad because you're
(03:37):
not prepared. Despite was your first like it.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Was my first like my first real love and so
my first real heartbreak was it was a shock and
it was heavy, you know, it was heavy for college
Alex and just trying to find my way I'm growing
as a young woman.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Did you think like this was going to be it?
This is I'm gonna we're going to be forever together?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You know, on some level probably I thought that that
would be it. But I was just telling somebody, I
do you know fall in love with potential? Oh no, girl,
Sometimes you know, it's the naive part of me and
it gets the best of me.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
But yeah, and then that unfolded. Yeah, yes it did.
And then what did you do with that? So did
you immediately get to like writing and creating?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Like what did you do writing? Just so when I
was at UCLA in the music building and anytime there
was an empty classroom with a piano and it, I
would just sit down and just play. I would start
just playing songs that I knew, and then I would
just start piecing chords together and creating stuff on my own.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But you had never felt no pain like that, So
that's not like that, So this is different now.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, I was understanding heartbreak songs and like really emotional
love songs. I was relating to them. Wow, So yeah
it was it was real.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Was there like one moment like you go like he pissed,
you find out then you go and hit the piano
and something comes out? Or was it like a progression
of I think as aggression of letting it? I didn't
help it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Did it did? Because it felt like it felt like
in a way I got the last word. It felt
like I was just you know, releasing and the beginning
of moving on past that. So it served you. It
kind of served you in therapy. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Did he ever hear the music? Did you ever hear?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I'm sure he did. I never really asked him about it,
but I'm sure he sure he heard it.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Sure he did. Sure it burned too, good friend. But
here you are here I am, yeah, where you where you?
And it's probably evolved since then even more right.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, especially now as a mom and
just continuing to grow into myself as a woman and
prioritize self care and all the things. Girls.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
How old ten?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
She'll be a ten year I know you love.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Her at your face you adore her.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
That's cute. That is the honestly, like the biggest, greatest
example of pure love. That I've ever known, and now
as a mom, I understand my mom even more so
I'm starting to get it now.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Does it affect the music too?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, but I think I think it
affects the process of how I create. I think I'm
just I'm more intentional with my time and just doing
my best to be as present as I can because
I don't want to look up and then she's sixteen
or seventeen, and I'm like, I don't remember anything, Like, well, yes,
I want to be as as grounded as I can
(06:44):
in each moment with her.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
How you doing that with being out and being on
the road and you have a show here tonight.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
It's just performing tonight night at Irving Plaza.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's a full circle moment because the last time I
performed there, I was doing backgrounds with Megan Trainer. Oh wow, ago,
So yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Were you in the back like looking like one day?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
So yeah, what you know? That was that was always
the plan. But I loved working with Megan And it
doesn't feel that long ago, but it was. That was
eleven years ago now, so wow yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, Oh so you've been at it so eleven years ago,
then a year later you have your daughter. Yeah, and
then here you are ten years after that. Yep, yep,
Urban Plaza. So last time you were there was that
was that time?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Oh that's amazing. Yeah, Oh you're gonna rip it down.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I'm excited. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
How is she so, how you're navigating moving around and
and mom's away and how she does she know You're
like she like loved the album?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Is she excited? Yeah, she likes the music, so it's
it's daughter approved. So I feel good about that. But
I think she's going back to being present about where
I am, and so being on the road and traveling
and feeling and seeing all this beautiful energy that comes
to the shows, just taking that in as much as
I can, because there's nothing like that. I mean, you
(08:06):
know obviously, but well I haven't thought that, and I
can't do what you do now. Even when I was
on the stage, it was never like that.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Those pipes. That's different. That's a different feeling.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's a great feeling, though. I'm just I'm grateful for real.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Good for you, mama. What should people know people who haven't,
because I'm sure people are discovering you still all the
time now, right, You're still like there's like new people
coming to the shows. Somebody's PBAB going to bring somebody
to the show that has never seen you before or
just got put on. Like, I don't know what should
people know about your music or the project or.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I think people should know that it's all love. Everything
that I do is rooted in love. And I think
whether that's you know, whether I'm singing about heartbreak or
being in love or whatever my future love may look like.
I'm always hopeful about it. I'm always optimistic and trying
to find this overlining and even in like a not
(09:02):
so great situation. But yeah, it's it's all from my heart.
I resonate with all of it. It's all rooted in love.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
You are what did you say before? You uh? Not
well optimistic? Yes, but I could see that you see
the potential?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, careful with that, Yeah, careful, I've learned. I've I've
learned with that girl, all right?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And then what's the show? Like, So the show's tonight,
who's going to show? What's the vibes in that?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
The show is blue?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Everyone and everybody's to wear it blue too?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yea Yeah, everyone's decked out in their blue or their denim,
or they're you know, black with a hint of blue.
You know. It's uh, it's grown, it's moody, it's viby.
It just it feels good in the room. It's it's
a fun time.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That's amazing. Yeah, So when what was the what is
the blue rooting in?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Like?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
What was the good questions? So, so the album is
when the city sleeps, and so it's a very nocturnal album.
For me, it's nighttime, you know. So the blue is
is nighttime. It represents I think it represents calm. It
represents stillness, but I think it could also represent water
(10:20):
and air, which are both you know, essentials.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
It represents the New York Knicks.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It represents the New York Knicks as well. So the
meaning is very bias around here, very biased. No, I
respect it, I know. No, So the meaning is tenfold.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, that is why she shares the blue clip. Yes,
it had nothing to do with the next. So do
you always have something blue? Is there always like a
hint of their.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Nails are blue, My nails are blue. There's also yeah,
there's always the hints of blue. If I have on
black on the stage. My I makeup is blue, So
there's always something blue.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Do you think that that's going to be something that
you that you take with you always? Or is that
like this project?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
You know?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I think I think I'm just gonna carry it with me.
It's just for your infinitely. I like it, Yeah, and
I thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, I think I think I'm gonna stay with it
for a while.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I love that. Okay, So everybody has to wear blue tonight? Yes,
what happens if somebody doesn't wear blue? They're not gonna
get kicked out with me.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
No, you're not gonna get kicked out. You're not gonna
get turned away.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
It's not that the light. They're not gonna put the
light on you.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
No, it's just, you know, blue is just it's a
friendly suggestion, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Okay, it's not mandatory.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
It's not mandatory.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And could you explain this? I read this about you
about the perfect pitch thing? Yeah, how do you say it? First?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Synesthesia?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Could you tell me what that is?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah? So Pharrell has it too, does he?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Oh it's when you see the colors right, yes, so
he does that part.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So associating keys and chords with specific colors, and they're
always instant. So like for me, C major is all
I feel nuts talking about.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I find it fascinating.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
C major is always yellow. Did you have this your
whole life? My whole life born with this? Because I
remember there was a song I was trying to remember.
I was little. I was talking to my dad and
I was like, Daddy, was that song from that movie?
And it's it's the yellow song? What's that yellow song?
And it was a song in C major? But I
didn't know anything about the terminology the chorus. I just
(12:27):
knew it was yellow.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Did he know me?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
He was like, no, what are you talking about? But yes,
Ever since I.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Was when did you find out that that's what it was?
When were you diagnosed?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Right? Because it's a it's a condition. Yeah, I didn't
know until high school. Wow, And then yeah, I didn't
know it was a thing.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
So what is blue?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I think E minor?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I think what is minor?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
So E minor is so okay?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So the I mean, I know in theory, yes is
but like.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
So the key if you listen to Fallen by Alicia Keys,
so that's E minor.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
The whole song is minor.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, Okay, so that is like that's a shade. I
want to say, maybe like his sweatshirt like that kind
of like a pale blue almost you are falling today?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
What song am I given? What song is this? This
is a weird color. It's not even really.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
So there are no browns for me. So there's no browns,
there's no black, there's no white, there's there is a gray.
E Minor is kind of also kind of like gray.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Some but yeah, and what was the other one? Yellow?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Is?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
What?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
C Major?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
And what is the C Major song? Shoot? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I'm trying to think of one.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Uh, I'm gonna googlip.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I really want to know. This is fascinating to me.
But so C Major saw I'm asked in chat. Let's
see what chat says. Yeah, I should be using Claude. Okay, ready,
C Major? Imagine John Legend anything? Oh, Bill Withers, I
love Bill Withers. Lean on me is yes? Is C
(14:17):
Major anything current? This is all like Bob Marley, no woman,
no cry. Let me ask if anything yellow anything on
your album?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Uh? No, there are no yellow songs.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Is everything blue on your album?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Uh? There are blues for sure, but not everything's blue,
so I think there's like there's like a dark like
sea green almost there's Yeah, it's strange.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Anything to do with your actual singing though, or does
it help you? Kind of?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
It does help me, like it does evoke like each
color evokes so are and mood for me. So if
I'm in a session and we're creating something in a
certain key and it's not like striking the right mood
or color for me, I'll ask to transpose it or
like you know, up a step or down a step,
and then that changes the whole the whole color for me.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Fascinating doing like science in the studio. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, some mathematicians have it too. I read like some
people associate numbers with colors. So yeah, it's it's it
makes perfect sense when I'm talking about it in my head.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I find it super interesting. And mathematicians too, that's super interesting. Yeah,
I'm just trying to think, do I ever do I see? No,
I don't. No. I love math. I'm like a math girl.
So then that was like, do I have it? I
don't have it unfortunately for me. All right, let's go
to your in real life questionnaire. Last thing you eight
is avocado toast. That's nice and healthy. You're a healthy eater, you.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Know, I'm trying to be okay, I have dibbled it.
We've dibbled and dabbled on tour and had a little
bit of you know, I had crab legs the other
day and like yeah pasta last night. So everything in moderation.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
What is your go to karaoke song?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Anything by Adele? So like hello or uh? But I
never sing in my real voice karaoke?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
What do you mean like singing like a bad voice?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I'm like, I'm never like trying to intentionally perform or
just like yeah, because that would be weirving my no
fun someone like you? You know, it's like there's no
there's no fun in like just going to karaoke to perform, yeah,
because that's like work. That takes the fun out of it.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
So do you like intentionally sing bad at karaoke?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, it's fun like goofy you sing like, yeah, you
probably could sing the hell out of that Adele song though.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
No, you know, I think I've tried. It's that's one
of those those power ballads. For sure. What color is it?
Someone like you? Uh?
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Is h.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
It's like a shade. It's that's another shade of blue,
but like a lighter like maybe like closer to sky blue.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Wow, it's like you're another language for me. Superpower being me.
That's good. Yeah, your celebrity crush.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I mean this is everybody's like Michael B.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Jordan, Have you met him?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I have not? No, put it in the air.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Let mean, just put it in the air. Why not?
I believe he's single? Now are you single? Now you're single?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I am single? Yeah, you know, Hey.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
It's meant.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
It's meant to happen if we're meant to cross paths
at some point. But yeah, I mean it's everybody's crush.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I feel like not everybody, not everybody's your crush. Own it,
own it one thing on your bucket list list. Oh
I love that to record with Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Have you ever met him?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I finally met him. I was on like a ten
year mission to meet him, Like I would leave somewhere
and then he would pop up, and it was happening
like that for ten years. I finally met him on
his birthday last year and got to sing Happy birthday
to him, and that was how.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Did that happen?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
That was so I was invited by a good friend
shout out to DJ Molski. He called me up and
was like, hey, can you come to Stevie's parties? And
now I'm like, I moved heaven and Earth to me
and there I was like, okay, I got the little
one situated. Cool, I got this in place.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I went and it was it was a small, intimate
gathering of his friends and family. And then they handed
me the mic to sing Happy Birthday, and that was
I was terrified.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I did it, but iuld imagine Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah. Yeah, but he had the kindest words and was
telling me. He was like, I love your voice and
I have a record for you. And I'm just like
I was out of my body at that point. So listen,
I mean, I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I always say about Stevie, I don't I mean, everybody
knows he's a legend everybody, but I don't know that
we worship him the way we should worship him. While
he's here, you know what I mean, He's like walking
around arguably the greatest artist to ever live.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
He's the eighth wonder of the world.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And I don't know that we celebrate I shouldn't say
we don't celebrate that enough, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I feel like I don't know, one day he won't
be here. There's profuly many many years from now. But
you know what I'm saying, the fact that he's walking
around this earth, I just feel like he should be
celebrating more.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
There's always more room to celebrate him.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Right, Sure, well you got to sing him happy birthday?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
What kind of happy birthday did you sing him?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I was just trying to like get through it without
like sounding like I.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Was like, well you like you know in your bag
happy birthday? Or did you just keep it clean?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I kept it simple. I was like, don't do nothing,
don't do nothing crazy, Just get through this and hand
the mic back and yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
But get out of here. While it's saying it was
it was.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It was a really it was a really special moment.
Just happy to be there.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Your pet peeves cigarette smokers. Yeah, because you're a singer
and musician and it's it's gross and smelly. Yeah, is
that why?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
That's part of it?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I just don't like the smell. Yeah, get out of here.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
What's the last thing that sent you down a rabbit?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Hole Michael's isolated vocals, I think ever since this film
came out, and Jaffar Jackson did the most incredible job.
You know him, I don't know him. I actually know
his older sister.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I don't know why. I think all the families, all
the Jackson's know the Isley's and.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
They so we do know each other. The brothers know
the brothers for sure, but brothers know the Jackson brothers. Yeah.
But so I actually know Jafar's older sister.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And you know the girls.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah. But so he did the most incredible job. So
after that, I was just diving into the recordings and
like any isolated vocals or whatever I could find on YouTube.
And there's there's a lot of stuff, is there, Yeah,
like him layering and stacking his harmonies and yeah, it's
really it's.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Crazy, fascinating, Yeah, fascinating. All right, miss Alex. It was
lovely to meet you today. I do want to play
a little game with you. Can we do that?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yes? Of course?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Is there anything people should know about this album if
they haven't, if they haven't lived it yet or experienced
it yet.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
This album is a direct look into my detailed thoughts
about life and love and it's very again, it's very nighttime,
it's very la. There's a lot of la kind of
Easter eggs in there that are very specific to my city.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
So yeah, we get on board because you are already
kind of late, but you're not too late.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It's it's never too late.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
It's never too late. And then of course you could
go see her tonight, yes, at Irving Plaza.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Irving Plaza plub.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
All right, our game is called check it or let
it slide?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Okay, okay, okay, We're.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Gonna give you a scenario. This is great when you're
getting to know somebody now because we're just getting to
know you. Yeah, uh tells a slot about your personality.
Do you check things? Do you let it slide?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Got it? Okay, here's an easy one. Your friend keeps
sending you voice notes, really long ones instead of texting,
do you check that? Or do you let that slide?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I let that slide because I do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
You're the one.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
But like a lot of my friends, like we you know,
we send some you know, lengthy voice memos.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I got a four min in one today. I was
on the plane. I wanted to jump out of the plane.
I wanted to jump out to exit.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I may look if you're on a play like if
you're on a plane, if like for me, if I'm
in traffic, I don't have anywhere to go. I'm just
I just press play and just it's like a podcast.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It's it's very patient and sweet. I look for the button,
you know how like you get pressed the button and
watch the reels faster or the YouTube you put it
on a two point Oh, they need that for voice notes.
I need to I need you to they have it?
Why don't know how to do it? It doesn't work?
Could you please show me today because I'm dying inside?
(23:07):
All right, el books is doing check it or let
it slide with us? What do you got for her? Right?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
If you find out that your friend is still friends
with that guy you cut off, you're gonna check that.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
You're gonna let it.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
My god, if one of your girls has become friendly,
I mean become friendly.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
What is what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Each others things?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I mean friendly, that's you know friendly. That's a broad definition,
so that could mean a few different things. So it
just depends.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I think any of it, any of it and any
of it though, Like.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Why are you why you.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I mean, I might ask about it, but thankfully that
that's not a hypothetical from our situation. Thank thankfully, I
have the best friends in the world.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
So you would you would what did you say, you
would ask? You would have some questions. I would probably
you wouldn't jump to checking. Yeah you have a question. Yeah, okay,
So that's kind of in between the but let it slide.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
In because my my friends have pretty judgment check.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
It's a pre check. That's funny. We play this game
a lot. Nobody has ever given us a pre check.
Pre check. Yeah, all right, pre check. I got it,
I got questions, all right, go is it me my turn? Okay?
Oh god, you're on a first date, new guy. It's
(24:33):
not Michael B. Jordan and somebody else, or it could
be Michael B. Jordan never no, okay, okay, you're on
the first date and they cannot stop asking you questions
about your family? Okay, let slide.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
If if we get to advertisers and he's still asking
me questions, then I'll probably like shift the conversation somehow
or ask him about him, because yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
That's that feels like check, Yeah, just check. Let's change
the subject.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, yeah, I would say, I would say check check that. Man,
I'd find a general way to do that, though, because
I'm I'm I'm nice, your.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Nice exit out of it.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
That's never happened to you in real life?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Not really?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, I mean you're doing all right.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
So someone says they're not ready for a relationship but
keeps popping back up every few months, So checking out,
we're gonna let that slide.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I'm checking it.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
I stop wasting your time. The potential.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Or the only way I would let it slide is
if I read the message and I don't address it,
which typically you know that might be the move.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
But yeah, okay, this is cute. Someone starts sing singing
your songs to you and they're really passionate about it. Okay,
but they're getting all the wrong words, all the words wrong.
Do you check that out and you let that slide?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Let it slide because the intentions are good. But I'm
not gonna be like, oh it's the love of Yeah,
now I'll let it slide, all right.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
You get one more? I get one more.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Someone has the nerve to dig into your food without
permission at all.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Are we checking this or we're gonna let this slide?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
It depends who it is.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Okay, don't mess how much you give it a person.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, if it's my daughter or my mom or you
know whoever, if it's.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Like, well, your daughter's ten, so we give her a past, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Right kind of no, but yeah, it's just it depends.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, somebody in your recording session is offering unsolicited advice.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Oh gosh, oh that's my that's the word. That's what
I should have put his pet peeve. Unsolicited advice. Yeah,
I don't. I don't do well with that. I just
for just in the studio. I think I think more
so in the studio. But because I'm nice, I'm just
gonna be like, okay, and just I'm gonna go on
(27:14):
about my business.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Really are sweet, because.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
But yeah, that's that's that's another.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Here. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, this is a closed session, respectfully, Thank you, respectfully,
unless Stevie shows up, of course. Yeah, it's Stevie's world.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Who Yeah, I hope that happens for you. Thank you,
me too, And I hope you have a great show tonight.
And I hope Michael B. Jordan who shows up a yeah,
It's about one five one alex Eisley's I guess.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Thank you for having me, and.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
She wore her nick colored uh my nick blue clip,
her blue clip.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
It's also her color though, you know what I mean.
But she's in theme, so we love that. Hi, honey, Hi,
nice to meet you.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Nice to meet you.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Welcome to us, our city. I know you've been here
a lot. Actually, I know you're actually originally from here. Yes,
New Jersey, not New York. But that's our sister brother.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yes exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But you left early, right, they got you out of here.
I did what happened.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm an honorary LA native, but I was born in
Bergen County.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
In Bergen County, New Jersey, you could we could have
claimed we almost could have claimed you. Then you went
to LA and you mostly grew up there, right, Yeah, yeah,
you grew up in Isley, which is pretty cool. Yes,
when you're in school and they call your name, is
everybody like do people know that you have like a
normal childhood or did you have like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
There's definitely a bit of fascination, I think, especially once.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
It's a good name.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, it's a great name. I'm always proud of it.
But yeah, I think once, once they kind of made
the researchences Isley Brothers and mister Biggs and that whole
part of the catalog. Then the kids my age are like, oh, like,
you're a part of this family. And then that's when
I understood, like, yeah, it was a big deal.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It's a big deal. It's a big deal. No, I'm
sure you've talked about this a ton, but this is
our first time meeting. So yeah, so no reservations like
growing up, I mean, no fear about stepping into that
name and using that name and how that would I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Not any weight on that, I think internally for sure.
But I think I've always been proud of the lineage
and and what they do, what they're still doing.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I've always been proud to have the last name and
developed the love for music and writing and performing on
my own at an early age.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
What what was that?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Like you?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Was it in the house?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Was it everywhere? Was it everywhere? Yeah? And on my
mom's side too. My my maternal grandmother was an opera singer,
So she was training me classically.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
She was training you classically at what age?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Started when I was twelve.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Oh wow, so you were born and bred.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, it was choiceful, getting the technical part of things
on my mom's side and then the soul and r
and be on my dad's side. And yeah, it was
everywhere and here you are.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And then when do you start to take all those
ingredients and find your own kind of I don't know, soup.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I think I think that just happened over over time
since I was little. But I think I really came
into my own as a as an artist. I think
starting in college and you know, go to heartbreak. I
went to u c L a good old fashioned heartbreak
and I was down bad, and I feel like the
only way I could get over this was to write
(03:09):
about it. And that was the beginning.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Of course music.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, yeah, that was really the beginning of me finding
my voice.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, that is when the best music happens, right, That's
what they say. Yeah, sadly, so when you say you
were down bad, yeah, people, you know, down bad is
levels to it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. College,
it could go it could go down bad because you're
(03:37):
not prepared. Despite was your first like it.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Was my first like my first real love and so
my first real heartbreak was it was a shock and
it was heavy, you know, it was heavy for college
Alex and just trying to find my way I'm growing
as a young woman.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Did you think like this was going to be it?
This is I'm gonna we're going to be forever together?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You know, on some level probably I thought that that
would be it. But I was just telling somebody, I
do you know fall in love with potential? Oh no, girl,
Sometimes you know, it's the naive part of me and
it gets the best of me.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
But yeah, and then that unfolded. Yeah, yes it did.
And then what did you do with that? So did
you immediately get to like writing and creating?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Like what did you do writing? Just so when I
was at UCLA in the music building and anytime there
was an empty classroom with a piano and it, I
would just sit down and just play. I would start
just playing songs that I knew, and then I would
just start piecing chords together and creating stuff on my own.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But you had never felt no pain like that, So
that's not like that, So this is different now.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, I was understanding heartbreak songs and like really emotional
love songs. I was relating to them. Wow, So yeah
it was it was real.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Was there like one moment like you go like he pissed,
you find out then you go and hit the piano
and something comes out? Or was it like a progression
of I think as aggression of letting it? I didn't
help it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Did it did? Because it felt like it felt like
in a way I got the last word. It felt
like I was just you know, releasing and the beginning
of moving on past that. So it served you. It
kind of served you in therapy. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Did he ever hear the music? Did you ever hear?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I'm sure he did. I never really asked him about it,
but I'm sure he sure he heard it.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Sure he did. Sure it burned too, good friend. But
here you are here I am, yeah, where you where you?
And it's probably evolved since then even more right.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, especially now as a mom and
just continuing to grow into myself as a woman and
prioritize self care and all the things. Girls.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
How old ten?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
She'll be a ten year I know you love.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Her at your face you adore her.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
That's cute. That is the honestly, like the biggest, greatest
example of pure love. That I've ever known, and now
as a mom, I understand my mom even more so
I'm starting to get it now.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Does it affect the music too?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, but I think I think it
affects the process of how I create. I think I'm
just I'm more intentional with my time and just doing
my best to be as present as I can because
I don't want to look up and then she's sixteen
or seventeen, and I'm like, I don't remember anything, Like, well, yes,
I want to be as as grounded as I can
(06:44):
in each moment with her.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
How you doing that with being out and being on
the road and you have a show here tonight.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
It's just performing tonight night at Irving Plaza.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's a full circle moment because the last time I
performed there, I was doing backgrounds with Megan Trainer. Oh wow, ago,
So yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Were you in the back like looking like one day?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
So yeah, what you know? That was that was always
the plan. But I loved working with Megan And it
doesn't feel that long ago, but it was. That was
eleven years ago now, so wow yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, Oh so you've been at it so eleven years ago,
then a year later you have your daughter. Yeah, and
then here you are ten years after that. Yep, yep,
Urban Plaza. So last time you were there was that
was that time?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Oh that's amazing. Yeah, Oh you're gonna rip it down.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I'm excited. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
How is she so, how you're navigating moving around and
and mom's away and how she does she know You're
like she like loved the album?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Is she excited? Yeah, she likes the music, so it's
it's daughter approved. So I feel good about that. But
I think she's going back to being present about where
I am, and so being on the road and traveling
and feeling and seeing all this beautiful energy that comes
to the shows, just taking that in as much as
I can, because there's nothing like that. I mean, you
(08:06):
know obviously, but well I haven't thought that, and I
can't do what you do now. Even when I was
on the stage, it was never like that.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Those pipes. That's different. That's a different feeling.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's a great feeling, though. I'm just I'm grateful for real.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Good for you, mama. What should people know people who haven't,
because I'm sure people are discovering you still all the
time now, right, You're still like there's like new people
coming to the shows. Somebody's PBAB going to bring somebody
to the show that has never seen you before or
just got put on. Like, I don't know what should
people know about your music or the project or.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I think people should know that it's all love. Everything
that I do is rooted in love. And I think
whether that's you know, whether I'm singing about heartbreak or
being in love or whatever my future love may look like.
I'm always hopeful about it. I'm always optimistic and trying
to find this overlining and even in like a not
(09:02):
so great situation. But yeah, it's it's all from my heart.
I resonate with all of it. It's all rooted in love.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
You are what did you say before? You uh? Not
well optimistic? Yes, but I could see that you see
the potential?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, careful with that, Yeah, careful, I've learned. I've I've
learned with that girl, all right?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And then what's the show? Like, So the show's tonight,
who's going to show? What's the vibes in that?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
The show is blue?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Everyone and everybody's to wear it blue too?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yea Yeah, everyone's decked out in their blue or their denim,
or they're you know, black with a hint of blue.
You know. It's uh, it's grown, it's moody, it's viby.
It just it feels good in the room. It's it's
a fun time.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That's amazing. Yeah, So when what was the what is
the blue rooting in?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Like?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
What was the good questions? So, so the album is
when the city sleeps, and so it's a very nocturnal album.
For me, it's nighttime, you know. So the blue is
is nighttime. It represents I think it represents calm. It
represents stillness, but I think it could also represent water
(10:20):
and air, which are both you know, essentials.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
It represents the New York Knicks.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It represents the New York Knicks as well. So the
meaning is very bias around here, very biased. No, I
respect it, I know. No, So the meaning is tenfold.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, that is why she shares the blue clip. Yes,
it had nothing to do with the next. So do
you always have something blue? Is there always like a
hint of their.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Nails are blue, My nails are blue. There's also yeah,
there's always the hints of blue. If I have on
black on the stage. My I makeup is blue, So
there's always something blue.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Do you think that that's going to be something that
you that you take with you always? Or is that
like this project?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
You know?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I think I think I'm just gonna carry it with me.
It's just for your infinitely. I like it, Yeah, and
I thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, I think I think I'm gonna stay with it
for a while.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I love that. Okay, So everybody has to wear blue tonight? Yes,
what happens if somebody doesn't wear blue? They're not gonna
get kicked out with me.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
No, you're not gonna get kicked out. You're not gonna
get turned away.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
It's not that the light. They're not gonna put the
light on you.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
No, it's just, you know, blue is just it's a
friendly suggestion, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Okay, it's not mandatory.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
It's not mandatory.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And could you explain this? I read this about you
about the perfect pitch thing? Yeah, how do you say it? First?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Synesthesia?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Could you tell me what that is?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah? So Pharrell has it too, does he?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Oh it's when you see the colors right, yes, so
he does that part.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So associating keys and chords with specific colors, and they're
always instant. So like for me, C major is all
I feel nuts talking about.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I find it fascinating.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
C major is always yellow. Did you have this your
whole life? My whole life born with this? Because I
remember there was a song I was trying to remember.
I was little. I was talking to my dad and
I was like, Daddy, was that song from that movie?
And it's it's the yellow song? What's that yellow song?
And it was a song in C major? But I
didn't know anything about the terminology the chorus. I just
(12:27):
knew it was yellow.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Did he know me?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
He was like, no, what are you talking about? But yes,
Ever since I.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Was when did you find out that that's what it was?
When were you diagnosed?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Right? Because it's a it's a condition. Yeah, I didn't
know until high school. Wow, And then yeah, I didn't
know it was a thing.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
So what is blue?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I think E minor?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I think what is minor?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
So E minor is so okay?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So the I mean, I know in theory, yes is
but like.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
So the key if you listen to Fallen by Alicia Keys,
so that's E minor.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
The whole song is minor.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, Okay, so that is like that's a shade. I
want to say, maybe like his sweatshirt like that kind
of like a pale blue almost you are falling today?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
What song am I given? What song is this? This
is a weird color. It's not even really.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
So there are no browns for me. So there's no browns,
there's no black, there's no white, there's there is a gray.
E Minor is kind of also kind of like gray.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Some but yeah, and what was the other one? Yellow?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Is?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
What?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
C Major?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
And what is the C Major song? Shoot? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I'm trying to think of one.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Uh, I'm gonna googlip.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I really want to know. This is fascinating to me.
But so C Major saw I'm asked in chat. Let's
see what chat says. Yeah, I should be using Claude. Okay, ready,
C Major? Imagine John Legend anything? Oh, Bill Withers, I
love Bill Withers. Lean on me is yes? Is C
(14:17):
Major anything current? This is all like Bob Marley, no woman,
no cry. Let me ask if anything yellow anything on
your album?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Uh? No, there are no yellow songs.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Is everything blue on your album?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Uh? There are blues for sure, but not everything's blue,
so I think there's like there's like a dark like
sea green almost there's Yeah, it's strange.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Anything to do with your actual singing though, or does
it help you? Kind of?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
It does help me, like it does evoke like each
color evokes so are and mood for me. So if
I'm in a session and we're creating something in a
certain key and it's not like striking the right mood
or color for me, I'll ask to transpose it or
like you know, up a step or down a step,
and then that changes the whole the whole color for me.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Fascinating doing like science in the studio. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, some mathematicians have it too. I read like some
people associate numbers with colors. So yeah, it's it's it
makes perfect sense when I'm talking about it in my head.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I find it super interesting. And mathematicians too, that's super interesting. Yeah,
I'm just trying to think, do I ever do I see? No,
I don't. No. I love math. I'm like a math girl.
So then that was like, do I have it? I
don't have it unfortunately for me. All right, let's go
to your in real life questionnaire. Last thing you eight
is avocado toast. That's nice and healthy. You're a healthy eater, you.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Know, I'm trying to be okay, I have dibbled it.
We've dibbled and dabbled on tour and had a little
bit of you know, I had crab legs the other
day and like yeah pasta last night. So everything in moderation.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
What is your go to karaoke song?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Anything by Adele? So like hello or uh? But I
never sing in my real voice karaoke?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
What do you mean like singing like a bad voice?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I'm like, I'm never like trying to intentionally perform or
just like yeah, because that would be weirving my no
fun someone like you? You know, it's like there's no
there's no fun in like just going to karaoke to perform, yeah,
because that's like work. That takes the fun out of it.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
So do you like intentionally sing bad at karaoke?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, it's fun like goofy you sing like, yeah, you
probably could sing the hell out of that Adele song though.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
No, you know, I think I've tried. It's that's one
of those those power ballads. For sure. What color is it?
Someone like you? Uh?
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Is h.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
It's like a shade. It's that's another shade of blue,
but like a lighter like maybe like closer to sky blue.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Wow, it's like you're another language for me. Superpower being me.
That's good. Yeah, your celebrity crush.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I mean this is everybody's like Michael B.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Jordan, Have you met him?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I have not? No, put it in the air.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Let mean, just put it in the air. Why not?
I believe he's single? Now are you single? Now you're single?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I am single? Yeah, you know, Hey.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
It's meant.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
It's meant to happen if we're meant to cross paths
at some point. But yeah, I mean it's everybody's crush.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I feel like not everybody, not everybody's your crush. Own it,
own it one thing on your bucket list list. Oh
I love that to record with Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Have you ever met him?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I finally met him. I was on like a ten
year mission to meet him, Like I would leave somewhere
and then he would pop up, and it was happening
like that for ten years. I finally met him on
his birthday last year and got to sing Happy birthday
to him, and that was how.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Did that happen?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
That was so I was invited by a good friend
shout out to DJ Molski. He called me up and
was like, hey, can you come to Stevie's parties? And
now I'm like, I moved heaven and Earth to me
and there I was like, okay, I got the little
one situated. Cool, I got this in place.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I went and it was it was a small, intimate
gathering of his friends and family. And then they handed
me the mic to sing Happy Birthday, and that was
I was terrified.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I did it, but iuld imagine Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah. Yeah, but he had the kindest words and was
telling me. He was like, I love your voice and
I have a record for you. And I'm just like
I was out of my body at that point. So listen,
I mean, I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I always say about Stevie, I don't I mean, everybody
knows he's a legend everybody, but I don't know that
we worship him the way we should worship him. While
he's here, you know what I mean, He's like walking
around arguably the greatest artist to ever live.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
He's the eighth wonder of the world.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And I don't know that we celebrate I shouldn't say
we don't celebrate that enough, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I feel like I don't know, one day he won't
be here. There's profuly many many years from now. But
you know what I'm saying, the fact that he's walking
around this earth, I just feel like he should be
celebrating more.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
There's always more room to celebrate him.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Right, Sure, well you got to sing him happy birthday?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
What kind of happy birthday did you sing him?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I was just trying to like get through it without
like sounding like I.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Was like, well you like you know in your bag
happy birthday? Or did you just keep it clean?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I kept it simple. I was like, don't do nothing,
don't do nothing crazy, Just get through this and hand
the mic back and yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
But get out of here. While it's saying it was
it was.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It was a really it was a really special moment.
Just happy to be there.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Your pet peeves cigarette smokers. Yeah, because you're a singer
and musician and it's it's gross and smelly. Yeah, is
that why?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
That's part of it?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I just don't like the smell. Yeah, get out of here.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
What's the last thing that sent you down a rabbit?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Hole Michael's isolated vocals, I think ever since this film
came out, and Jaffar Jackson did the most incredible job.
You know him, I don't know him. I actually know
his older sister.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I don't know why. I think all the families, all
the Jackson's know the Isley's and.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
They so we do know each other. The brothers know
the brothers for sure, but brothers know the Jackson brothers. Yeah.
But so I actually know Jafar's older sister.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And you know the girls.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah. But so he did the most incredible job. So
after that, I was just diving into the recordings and
like any isolated vocals or whatever I could find on YouTube.
And there's there's a lot of stuff, is there, Yeah,
like him layering and stacking his harmonies and yeah, it's
really it's.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Crazy, fascinating, Yeah, fascinating. All right, miss Alex. It was
lovely to meet you today. I do want to play
a little game with you. Can we do that?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yes? Of course?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Is there anything people should know about this album if
they haven't, if they haven't lived it yet or experienced
it yet.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
This album is a direct look into my detailed thoughts
about life and love and it's very again, it's very nighttime,
it's very la. There's a lot of la kind of
Easter eggs in there that are very specific to my city.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
So yeah, we get on board because you are already
kind of late, but you're not too late.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It's it's never too late.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
It's never too late. And then of course you could
go see her tonight, yes, at Irving Plaza.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Irving Plaza plub.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
All right, our game is called check it or let
it slide?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Okay, okay, okay, We're.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Gonna give you a scenario. This is great when you're
getting to know somebody now because we're just getting to
know you. Yeah, uh tells a slot about your personality.
Do you check things? Do you let it slide?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Got it? Okay, here's an easy one. Your friend keeps
sending you voice notes, really long ones instead of texting,
do you check that? Or do you let that slide?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I let that slide because I do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
You're the one.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
But like a lot of my friends, like we you know,
we send some you know, lengthy voice memos.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I got a four min in one today. I was
on the plane. I wanted to jump out of the plane.
I wanted to jump out to exit.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I may look if you're on a play like if
you're on a plane, if like for me, if I'm
in traffic, I don't have anywhere to go. I'm just
I just press play and just it's like a podcast.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It's it's very patient and sweet. I look for the button,
you know how like you get pressed the button and
watch the reels faster or the YouTube you put it
on a two point Oh, they need that for voice notes.
I need to I need you to they have it?
Why don't know how to do it? It doesn't work?
Could you please show me today because I'm dying inside?
(23:07):
All right, el books is doing check it or let
it slide with us? What do you got for her? Right?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
If you find out that your friend is still friends
with that guy you cut off, you're gonna check that.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
You're gonna let it.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
My god, if one of your girls has become friendly,
I mean become friendly.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
What is what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Each others things?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I mean friendly, that's you know friendly. That's a broad definition,
so that could mean a few different things. So it
just depends.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I think any of it, any of it and any
of it though, Like.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Why are you why you.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I mean, I might ask about it, but thankfully that
that's not a hypothetical from our situation. Thank thankfully, I
have the best friends in the world.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
So you would you would what did you say, you
would ask? You would have some questions. I would probably
you wouldn't jump to checking. Yeah you have a question. Yeah, okay,
So that's kind of in between the but let it slide.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
In because my my friends have pretty judgment check.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
It's a pre check. That's funny. We play this game
a lot. Nobody has ever given us a pre check.
Pre check. Yeah, all right, pre check. I got it,
I got questions, all right, go is it me my turn? Okay?
Oh god, you're on a first date, new guy. It's
(24:33):
not Michael B. Jordan and somebody else, or it could
be Michael B. Jordan never no, okay, okay, you're on
the first date and they cannot stop asking you questions
about your family? Okay, let slide.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
If if we get to advertisers and he's still asking
me questions, then I'll probably like shift the conversation somehow
or ask him about him, because yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
That's that feels like check, Yeah, just check. Let's change
the subject.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, yeah, I would say, I would say check check that. Man,
I'd find a general way to do that, though, because
I'm I'm I'm nice, your.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Nice exit out of it.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
That's never happened to you in real life?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Not really?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, I mean you're doing all right.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
So someone says they're not ready for a relationship but
keeps popping back up every few months, So checking out,
we're gonna let that slide.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I'm checking it.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
I stop wasting your time. The potential.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Or the only way I would let it slide is
if I read the message and I don't address it,
which typically you know that might be the move.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
But yeah, okay, this is cute. Someone starts sing singing
your songs to you and they're really passionate about it. Okay,
but they're getting all the wrong words, all the words wrong.
Do you check that out and you let that slide?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Let it slide because the intentions are good. But I'm
not gonna be like, oh it's the love of Yeah,
now I'll let it slide, all right.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
You get one more? I get one more.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Someone has the nerve to dig into your food without
permission at all.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Are we checking this or we're gonna let this slide?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
It depends who it is.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Okay, don't mess how much you give it a person.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, if it's my daughter or my mom or you
know whoever, if it's.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Like, well, your daughter's ten, so we give her a past, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Right kind of no, but yeah, it's just it depends.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, somebody in your recording session is offering unsolicited advice.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Oh gosh, oh that's my that's the word. That's what
I should have put his pet peeve. Unsolicited advice. Yeah,
I don't. I don't do well with that. I just
for just in the studio. I think I think more
so in the studio. But because I'm nice, I'm just
gonna be like, okay, and just I'm gonna go on
(27:14):
about my business.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Really are sweet, because.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
But yeah, that's that's that's another.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Here. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, this is a closed session, respectfully, Thank you, respectfully,
unless Stevie shows up, of course. Yeah, it's Stevie's world.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Who Yeah, I hope that happens for you. Thank you,
me too, And I hope you have a great show tonight.
And I hope Michael B. Jordan who shows up a yeah,
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