DaBaby Reflects on His Healing Journey, Clearing the Kanye West Sample & New Music

DaBaby Reflects on His Healing Journey, Clearing the Kanye West Sample & New Music

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
The baby is here today, the baby putting in work work.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's time for all that.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Talk to me about your day today. How's your day?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
It's been eventful, you know what I'm saying. It's a
blessing for it to be like that. Is we running around,
we pushing a new album? Be more grateful?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Do you like this part of the of the process?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
You do it? Uh? Huh uh. It's necessary, it is necessary.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's all necessary.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Are you in good spirits?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm in great spirits. Great.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
What are you most grateful for right now?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Man? Just the journey within it self period, you know
what I mean? The character built along the way, the strength,
the reassurance of the you know, the strength that I
do got and just knowing that I got the ability
to come out on the other side of anything. You
know what I'm saying, gratefully to that part, make it,
you know even better.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
I was just thinking today because I was looking at
I was like, what year did that that first mixtape
came out? Was twenty fifteen. That's eleven years already, it's
eleven years. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Right to put my ten thousand hours in you got.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Some hours in this right now, sure, that's pretty impressive.
But when you think about your life from then to today, yeah,
being more grateful in twenty twenty six, the journey from
twenty fifteen has been I.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Mean, I mean from twenty nineteen when I popped mainstream
to twenty twenty six, it has been you know, seven years. Reallyful,
you get what I'm saying. Yes, it's short of a
blessing to still be here, still have a peace of mind,
still have my sanity.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, what do you attribute that to?

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Oh man, my sanity, my peace of mind. Yeah, my
beautiful kids. Yeah for sure. Yeah, because even like you know,
even when I would look even if I'm ever at
a point where I'm looking myself in the mirror and
know I can be doing much more than I'm doing,
or you know what I'm saying, No, I I'd rather

(01:57):
be so much further long than I am. They still
look at me like a superhero perfectly for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
So and also like if you're down or you're in
the middle of something, it's like, yeah, you could only
be so down when you have kids that.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
It's looking up to you one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
That you got to pick up right. So I'm sure
that that I'm sure that that's a big deal one
hundred percent. And then grateful too. Being grateful for stuff
helps people out there.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
It helps. That's you know. Sometimes you got to you
gotta stand across the street to see how nice your
house is.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, I'm sure you've got a beautiful house too, don't you.
You probably have a beautiful house. What's the living quarters
looking like?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
What's look like that castle?

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Like a good castle? What's your style? Like?

Speaker 2 (02:40):
I like modern, you know what I'm saying. I like modern.
I like I like all this ship that I see,
Like when I go to travel and stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
You want your joint looking like a hotel?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, Like I brought palm trees in from like a
different state. Palm trees don't grow in North Carolina, so
I brought something. Can they stay alive in North Like
five of my ses dead? Five of them did? It
just depends on like where the sun hit them and
they got to get a lot of water, luckily, But for.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
A couple of weeks it was probably looking beautiful.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Sure there was a couple of a lot of them
in the last two years, but it's more because it
rained a lot. Luckily, it's a by the lake so
it rained a lot of there.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
There's a reason there's no palm trees.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Exactly exactly because some of them just struggling. One of
them just like a noodle. It's just all the way.
I'm like, how the funck that happened? But nah, it's
you know, it's a blessing to be able to go
places and see things and be able to come back.
I feel like one thing I always say, like with
my crib, like I played sims. You know what I'm saying,
Like everything I wanted I got boomed, Like if you

(03:37):
see it when I first got it compared to like
what's up with it now? It's yes, a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
There's lots to be grateful for for sure. Yeah, I
get I get that you're so kind of domestic then, right,
like you like really care about flying things to day.
How's you're cooking?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, you're like, do my thing in the kitchen?

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Your kitchen in the house has gotta be nice, Yes.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
For sure. I gotta have room. I gotta I gotta
be able to you know, I like to cook a
lot of food.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
When did that first tike start happening and cooking?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
And a kid? I just started rapping. You know what
I'm saying, compared.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
To cooking is the original talents cooking for real, a
kid like what age seven, making.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
What at that ship whatever I could at that time,
like I was, I'm the type of the being there
playing with stuff, fucking food up, wasting food, like trying
to make something like like I was the I was
the six year old that tried to make peanut butter
cookies by putting a spoonful of peanut butter on a
bacon sheet and putting it.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
But you knew to put it on a bacon sheet, yeah,
not a bacon.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Sheet of yes, yeah, whatever whatever I had to put
in there, but not definitely like I've been. You know,
it all started with oodles and noodles and grilled cheese
sandwiches and shit like that. But now it's like it's
it really been developed. I've been cooking my whole life.
What is your wanting to be a chephen? I was
the kids. I realized they ain't make as much money
that I wanted to make.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Something's something, But but it's very rare.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
You're right, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, rapper makes more money than the show. Rapper making
more money than that. I ain't, but you probably, But
what's your best dish?

Speaker 2 (05:11):
I got a lot ain't.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Got, But like, you know, you got somebody important coming over,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Thought press somebody?

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, you want to, like who would you want to impress?
Like who would be somebody that you would want?

Speaker 2 (05:23):
When it comes to the cooking, like I take pride
in it, like I don't don't play, you know, so
it defends like I can like really tell me what
type of food you like, tell me your style of eating,
and I tell you like what I.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
And really you could make something in any style anything
that's fascinating, I swear to.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
God, Like I'm really like say they can cook? Nah? No,
no people that like.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
What is the trick to that? Though? To being a
good cook?

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Major thing with cooking for real? For real? And this
may sound crazy, but it's like it's common sense too.
I'm gonna say it's common sense, you know what I mean?
But not common Yeah, it's not common at all, especially
when it comes to cooking because a lot of motherfuckers
can't cook. But other than that, it's just you know,
I don't know knowing what you like? I don't It's
something about like knowing how to taste, like when you

(06:07):
taste something, like knowing how to it's like reverse engineering
almost type shit. Like so anything I taste it, I like,
or if I watch somebody make something one time, like
it's nothing to it. You know what I'm saying. But
I don't know, like I can literally like I can
cook a lot of different ship like I don't know
something I can't cook. If I don't cook something's because
I don't eat it.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
So do you actually do it though? Because it takes time?
How do you do that?

Speaker 2 (06:28):
When I get it in, I cook, like when I go,
when I get off the road or whatever. When I
got my little off days and you can go ast
niggas and whole foods. They know me. I'm in there
like you.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Look, you know what data fresh?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I'm getting all fresh ingredients, never frozen, none of the meat.
I get it out there. Yeah, they gotta wave my
ship up. They gotta they know, like they already know.
I come in at with you cooking today, cooking today,
no NiFe, they know what's going on. They don't bother
me nothing. Clean after you cook, I clean up while
I'm cooking. I clean up while i'm cooking telling you
I do this, you know when that clean up while cook? Yeah,

(07:02):
I can't even it's an experience. We should all have
to even cook in a Mexic.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Because I cooking powder on my face.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, I mean that mean that means you throw down.
That's called throwing down. You know you ain't playing.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
It's a mess. I don't do it enough. So then
when I do do it, I'm out of I'm almost
out of like practice. So then just be shipped everywhere.
That's the part I hate, is.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
That part cleaning up? Partly? Definitely, That's why I try
to just you know, I already have my little dish
water ran I clean up along the way.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
That's amazing. We have this in real life questionnaire which
you didn't fill out. You have to do this with
the artists.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
We don't want to talk about feels.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Everybody fills it out because we keep it as like
a me. It's like a mentoring. We don't even got
to do it. But the first question was what is
the last thing you ate we are talking about?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I just ate some bullshit bullsh that. I just ate
some bullshit for sure, some bullshit, some bullshit.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
It was a Philly cheese steak.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah in New York. No, how would you think there's
a good Phill I wasn't looking for I wasn't looking
for a Philly cheese steak. Just saw it on the corner.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
You know what I'm saying, on the corner.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
No, No, not outside, I don't you got ah fuck No,
I went inside.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
So you're snobby too about your food.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
One hundred percent. One hundred percent, Like I don't eat
everybody food like you know, like people try to cook
for me, I don't even do it to yourself. I
tell them, specially people you know, like a lot of
people that cook for you. And they when they play,
they want to sit there and.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
See what you're complicated for the ladies.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
They better know what they're doing. They try to show you.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
If the lady tries to cook for you, she gotta know.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
She gotta know how to cook, or I won't even
let her. And I'm a know, like that's the thing,
you know what it is? The sign off top, Like
I'm a note of how you prepared, how you get
Like I'm a know quick. You know what I'm saying.
And I'm gonna say something like I can't bite my
tongue about I'm just gonna let them know, like I'm
not gonna I don't even want them to get into that.
You get what I'm saying, let me stop you right now.

(09:03):
I'm for real. It's like that. It's like you know,
it's like that. It's like somebody somebody telling you how
to do something that you do. You get what I'm saying,
like attempting to do it and tell you to get
in the passage you see like okay, like like Angie,
let's do let's do a radio show. But we're gonna
do it like this, like but it's not the right
way they do you you're not going to be able
to participate in it. I don't see that happened.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Shining for you, like if somebody chop chopping stuff wrong.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, that type. But the heat is too high,
all that, all that, you know. I don't seen people
cooking trying to cook chicken and steak in the same
damn pot. I say, oh my god, not the same plot.
I started to say, look, you don't let people playing
my kids. That's gonna die. You eat this ship. You're
gonna get you can't do that. Now, you can't do

(09:50):
that it's still good. No, it's not. It's not. Yeah,
like it's you know that's.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
What right was gonna cook for you, and they just
changed it.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
They know when they hear us see this, they gonna
knowing like that nigga is not lying. But you know,
I'm gentle with it, like I ain't. You know, I'm
not gonna let you put it in front of me
and I spit it out. I'm gonna tell you, like
before you even.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
How far are you gonna take this cooking thing? Like
what is your what is your like? Is it just
a hobby or do you think something? Are you gonna
open restaurants down the line?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Playing on opening the restaurants soon like this year, this
year Charlotte for sure, starting Charlotte. Yeah, I'm gonna start
starting the hometown and then you know we go from there.
I ain't tripping. I'm just keeping the main thing, the
main thing.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Are you gonna like set the menu and do all.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Absolutely absolutely and people know like they're gonna I see
it doing like I would go.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
I don't even know what you have convinced me that
I put you down.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I got to show you how rocking all this niggas
not playing like he really can't cook. I'm for real,
like I haven't met like I'm telling you, like it's
not me to my horn like majority of like women
that I've dealt with in my life, like I showed
them how to cook real shit. I promise you I'm dead.

(11:11):
They know it. They'll tell you. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
behind closed door, they probably ain't gonna scream it out
like but.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah they're gonna let you know.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah that's facting, man, they ain't playing. That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Well look forward to the restaurant.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Chains and it's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Cook and show, well you have already kind of you're
cooking for people.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Know no knife, they call him no night. Like even
my staff, anybody, everybody around my team whatever, like they
know I'm gonna I'm I'm a cook because I like
to eat good food, Like I don't really care for
fast food or eating out and none of that. Like
so just like bodyguards everybody, you go out there and
asking we lee, what's up with him in the kitchen,

(11:49):
They're gonna they're gonna look at you crazy, I'm telling you, Like,
so it's like just being around me period, Like it's
gonna be like you would think, like you know, I'm
trying to cook for somebody when I'm just I'm somebody.
It'll be a Wednesday like I'm making the most upscale
meet some shit that's gonna cost one hundred and fifty dollars.
You know what I'm saying. A plate somewhere already, Right.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
We all go to this restaurant we believe you.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Trying to sound, and we'll figure it out the day.
All I need is a kitchen. We'll figure it out,
all right.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
So you've also been cooking in the last most definitely
a most grateful new album. And I don't know what
the people what's been happening, what's the feedback been like.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
How it's been phenomenal? You know what I'm saying, I really,
I really took my time with this project and made
sure that they checked all the boxes, like that was
very important to me. Were not putting out a project
for four years like you get the next body of
work I put out. It really represents me, you know
what I'm saying. In my entirety, I didn't put out records, Okay,
I put out like a term song or party song
or whatever. Here and there and the time in between.

(12:52):
But I ain't put out nobody of working four years
and that's why it was important to mediate. Like Okay,
like I took a step back. I'm in the right space.
You know what I'm saying personally, you know what I mean.
I'm feeling good about the business to where I want
to put the project out and want to you know,
put my all into it. But you're not. At one point, yeah, absolutely,
you weren't.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Feeling good about the business not hell no, hell no,
what were you feeling about it?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Just I mean just just shit that just the ship
did come with it. I won't call it beat up
like you know, it's just if I'm the type person
I am, like, okay, if I don't you know, agree
with like how something go. I you know, I removed myself.
I won't participate. Put it like that. I won't participate
or I participate you know the way I want to.
You see what I'm saying. Until I okay, I'm like,

(13:38):
well who would this go? Like this? Okay, let me
take a step back, reevaluate what's going on. Okay, Now
I know how I want to reconnect with my audience,
re establish who my audience is well.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Also, how old were you when the first project drop?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I mean, I mean I wasn't young. I was. I
wasn't a child when I started wrapping. I was a
grown ass man when I.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Started as man. What age is that?

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Twenty two twenty one? Yeah, I wasn't no kid at us.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I mean that's you know, there's things to learn, a twenty.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
To learn one hundred percent, but you know, yeah, it ain't.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
I mean, there's always ship to learn. But in your
twenties in a game you never been in, in an
environment you never really had been.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
And it's my life with the with the like, with
the principles that I got, and me just being set
up the way I'm set up in the type of
business that I'm in. You know what I'm saying, In
the environment that I mean, that's what makes it more.
You know, Yeah, I'm more, you know I headed when
it comes to ship.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
What shifted that makes you?

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Like you patient about it now? To acquire way more patience,
you know what I'm saying, and understanding knowledge wisdom like
I'm I'm you know, I'm completely different. You know what
I'm saying in terms of like, okay, like how I
process ship, and you know, I just understand it for
what it is, you know what I'm saying, And not
only that, like I didn't have time like okay, personal ship,
you know, like with my with my debut project drop.

(15:00):
I'm saying, when I saw school, my debut probably dropped.
My father passed like maybe a week after, you know
what I'm saying. So I had that going on the
whole year twenty nineteen while I'm the biggest, hottest new thing.
The following year, my brother committed suicide. You get what
I'm saying. So it's the year after that all the boards, shit,
the cancel culture, shit. It hasn't been you know, one
one year of joining me, thank you, you get what

(15:22):
I'm saying. And then them years after that, them four
years is the four years that I haven't done that,
you know what I'm saying. So that was necessary, you
know what I mean, the.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Four years that you weren't doing it? Did you healed?
Cooking time.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I've been cooking the whole time. I had more time to,
but I've been cooking the whole time. I ain't never
stopped cooking. But it's like, you know, more than anything,
just you know, spending time with the kids and just
you know, figuring out how I want to approach whatever
I do. Is when I do something, I do it,
you know what I'm saying. So I ain't never stopped.
I still come in demonstrate, you know, make sure that

(15:56):
I'm still. You know. It's a good lesson, great one.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
It's life when life is be lifing and shit ain't
moving how you wanted to move. If you just take
a step back, got to be still and be still.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
You gotta be still and let this shit come to you.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
It seems good, Like your energy feels good. I mean
even the name of the album is dope.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
You feel amazing.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
You're stepping out with some like a positive announcement on it.
It's just you know, I get that. I wish more
of that for you.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
I appreciate it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Because life is fucking hard enough.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, get like that, you know what I'm saying. But
that's what come with it. Somebody out here got it
way worse.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Are you a happy guy in general?

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Do you think? Yeah? I am for sure for sure.
And that's the thing with me too, Like that's the energy,
like I give off like that's a part of like
my brand, Like that's what people get from me. I'm
not My music was never to make you you know
what I'm saying, go feel like you know, that was
never my vibe. You know, my music make people feel
good from the ladies, you get what I'm saying, and
or either you know, making people have a good time

(16:53):
and shit like that. So it's dope to just be
able to check them boxes, right that my core audience
already familiar with and from me the ship that they
come to me for, you know, and not only that,
like establish a completely different audience or tap into different
you know what I'm saying, emotions and ship from people
in my core audience with the more conscious records conscious
excuse me, records and ship like you know, way more transparent,

(17:16):
you know what I'm saying, Like yeah, for sure, and
really you know, not dumb down like my my lyrical
ability on there to so lyrics. Sure, this project is
my best body of work, you know what I'm saying
in my opinion for sure.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
That always feels good when you're proud of what you did. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, And it takes a lot for me to impress
myself that's the thing. Like, so, but I'm thoroughly impressed
with the fact.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Did you know you were going to clear this Kanye
song when you made that song?

Speaker 2 (17:40):
But you say I named it clear this ship.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Into existence, you know what I'm saying, talk about manifestation.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, man, I went ahead and put that look hollered
at them in the song, like hey, look ahead and
clear this.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
It's actually really brilliant. I don't know anybody when no,
you didn't say go ahead and clear when he clears.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
No choice on Kanye clear his ship when he ship
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, it's really kind of brilliant.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Not for sure, when that song you're in.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
The studio, that's everybody like, yo, that's kind.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Of ship fire.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
And then they kind of got that vibe like even
on the hook, it got the the throwback Vibeuck's like
they got like that vibe you know, from like that
era of music and shit. So it was fire. It
was It was a dope, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
You believe though, in the moment that it would get cleared?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, hell yeah, you hear that. It ain't no, you know, motherfucker,
don't clear that they hate, which which you know that's
common as hell, that's not uncommon at all, motherfucker like
not but Kanye not one of them, you know what
I'm saying, Like his musical genius, like and just the
way he is like artistically, Like he would never not
let a song like that get cleared if somebody else

(18:45):
that a thousand percent, if somebody else was like no, no, no,
I don't clear it, Like he would fucking get into
an argument with them right there on the spot about
it and say, fuck that, I'm clearing it. You get
what I'm saying, Like he would not not let that go.
You know what I'm saying, Like he understand you know,
like that part of an artist. He understands that part.
You know what I'm saying. Terms of sampling and you know,

(19:06):
drawing inspiration from different things.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Do you have to make that callers as a label
do that.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
I ain't even have to do it. And that's the thing,
like I ain't And really with simples, like I don't
even when I put them, like if I put them
on the track list when I get to choose my
track list the songs I'm gonna go with whatever, I
always have other songs on that like, I'm prepared for
for that to become. I don't like being at the
mercy of somebody clearing the sample, you get what I'm
saying to put out the body work I want to
put out side. I always have another song that I

(19:29):
feel like, okay, cool. I try not to get married
to the idea of that song getting cleared or coming
out because I know, at the end of the day,
since somebody else's hands, a lot of times it ain't
even them. It could be it could belong to in
the state or whatever. It could be some somebody else
that got it cleared it and I don't be wanting
to be at the mercy of that shit to put out,
you know what I'm saying. A good song for the listeners,
you know what I'm saying. So I don't even get

(19:50):
married to the idea. So I kind of had really
left for the loan. I was just I've been focusing completely,
like on things I can control, you know what I'm saying.
That's what I've been on. So when they did hit
me like oh yeah the Kanye went clear too, I hed, yeah,
you know what I'm saying, Like that was real big
shout out. Shout out to the team though, Like they
got all the records clear that that I've tried. It's

(20:10):
not one record that I wanted to clear. It's some
legendary samples on that Diana Howard sample, the T shirt
and panties one. I got a Jo Toicy sample on it.
They got clear. You know what I'm saying. Uh, it's
another one. Uh boomerang the song feature in Color rad
that's a legendary sample. Shake shake shake, shake, shake, shake,

(20:33):
shake your boot. They're just like real, like he's real,
like legendary records. I'm saying that I got clear. So
for them, whoever that's did that, come across to see
these songs and listen to them and you know, think
that I did justice by the records. It's big.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, because how much you care about awards? Do you care?

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Nah? I mean I came in and snatched my flowers
off the ground early. So yeah, have been in this ship. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
For Grammy nominations.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, eight Grammy nominations. I got them with them being
in the business for twelve months, you know what I'm saying.
But as far as B two Awards, Billboard Awards plaques,
I got fifty four of Billboard Hot one hundred entries.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Pop that thing talking Ship.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Number Billboard number one records multiple You know what I'm saying,
Like whatever, you know what I mean? Cool? Right, whatever,
I just want I don't chase that.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
T Like That's what I wanted to ask you, because like,
what do you do? You have expectations of this album?

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Like what do you Yeah, I definitely got expectations. Fit
that my expectations for Like, my goal is to re
establish my audience and reconnect with the audience. Re establish
my audience, you know what I'm saying, and connect have
it connect with them. That's my goal for everything other
than that, I understand like that ship can be control,
manipulated or whatever. You know, I understand the business. I'm

(21:53):
far enough along in the business to understand all that
other shit. That shit is. You know, it's factors and
variables to that that controls it. So but the one
thing that motherfuckers can't do nothing about is your music
connecting with the audience. Your music connected with the audience.
It don't. It's okay, Like the nigga with the most
number one album, the most number one albums in the world.
You know what I'm saying. Ever, nigga with the most

(22:16):
Billboard records ever is NBA young boy. Niggain't never got
an award from nobody, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
So what I'm saying what he's been able to do
absolutely because.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
He connects with his audience. Ain't nothing bigger than that.
Ain't nothing more effective than that, you know what I'm saying.
So that's my goal with this project, and coming from
somebody who Okay, then then got damn there all the awards,
you see what I'm saying, and then been the top
streaming artists in the world my second year in the
mainstream music business. All that right, But can see how

(22:46):
boom politics or some shit about something, a button can
be pressed and all that ship can be mist Yes, yeah,
you know what I'm saying, and all that shit can
be uh Like I understand, Like you know, chasing that
type shit. It's not the power this don't give the
power to that type of shit. You know what I'm saying.
I get a power back to the people with this
project and the listeners because it's smart. That's who it is,
you know what I'm saying. That's who go out their

(23:07):
way to support me. That's wh who my music touches.
And you know what I'm saying, So that's who I'm
gonna give my energy to. You know what I'm saying,
and it'll get reciprocated. Have it get reciprocated. I ain't.
I ain't really got to chase nothing at this point,
you know what I'm saying, Like, but.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Just you got a house with palm trees, and.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, I shouldn't even got to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
You imported palm trees to your house in North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
It's a lot different, like I got to. I'm blessed
enough to be able to, you know, approach it the
way I want to approach it. You know what I'm saying.
And it's super important to me that I do it,
you know, knowing and what I know and moving accordingly.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
You know, I'm saying, what about this? What about your charity,
their initiative, the Baby Cares, And yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
So I do with the Baby Care. I ain't did
nothing under the name the Baby Cares in a minute,
like and I should be attaching it to everything I'm doing,
because the charity with me, don't stop it the year around.
A lot of stuff I do, I don't even say
nothing about it. You know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Saying just doesn't connect.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, but I ain't never stop giving back, never, like
never the type of shit I do belong on TV. Man.
It's you know, like I walk around in my city
and like people stop me at they be reminding me
of stuff I didn't did, you know what I'm saying
on the regular, Like like the head share in my city,
Like he I ended up like in a meeting and

(24:27):
he was there in a meeting with him, and when
he got to telling me like the things that like
he like respect me for and things like that, like
he reminded me of so much stuff that I did
and didn't even think twice about it. You know. So
I'm real big on that. I get that that type
of stuff from my mama, you know what I'm saying,
Like just always just doing what I could do for people.
So definitely, like I definitely plan on you.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Know, doing some more stuff.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. But it's it's really you
got people to say that, and you got people that
like did really like you know, live like that stuff
that I really don't.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
What do you think is in pactful? Like how do
you when do you feel like some work you did
or something that you gave back was like really impactful
matter to people. I just want to get ununderstand what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
The stuff I do for the youth over above all,
and I mean really, I mean I do it you're
in year out, like like I didn't probably provide it
Christmas for like I don't know thousands of people A
couple of thousand that ain't. That's like like that's like

(25:32):
I like, so my crib right when I just when
I just kind of like cleared my crib out, I
gave away like I got furnished, Like I don't know
how many people's cribs like I do. I do unbelievable
shit like I ain't gonna lie like the type of
shit I be doing like it don't like though, yeah,
like like giving away, like I don't do the whole

(25:53):
like you know, get take a five thousand dollars check,
ten thousand dollars checking. Go get a big fake ass
poster of the check made and go take a picture.
Like no, like I go get like I walk in
these stores myself. They'll tell you like I walk in
these stores myself. I go get two three big ass
the biggest uhuls you can get. I walk in these

(26:15):
stores myself and and these two three star I spend
one hundred thousand dollars like I've done that maybe five times.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
And where does the stuff go to?

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Whoever needed? Like I don't trip like you know what
I'm saying, Like I either give people address and like
I like to do things like this, like I do
it the day before. You know what I'm saying. I
give people address and I put on like the biggest giveaways.
You know what I'm saying that there is and I'm
really not like big on like I just don't market
them the way people do. You know what I'm saying,
I get it and for the people to do, I

(26:45):
ain't knocking them like it's cool. Even when I be
seeing like people giveaways, like I be seeing them and
I'd be like, yeah, that's cool. But like if I
show the shit I do. You know what I'm saying, what.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Are you giving away? Just like stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Like like I would give away our last one right
like I give away like when you see a Nigga
give away one hundred flat screen TVs like this size,
one hundred bikes, one hundred bikes, hundreds of pairs of shoes.
I don't know how many thousands of toys, like like
I really like, you know, do the shit did matter?

(27:19):
You know what I'm saying. And people that's they're okay cool,
like why they pulling up? Why the people coming with
their kids? Like people when once we can actually see them,
you know what I'm saying. And the people that break
down crying when they get some and you know, and
while we're giving them a hug, they I was getting
ready to get put out this or that? Okay, boom?
How much is your rent? Pay the rent for ten people?
Like I don't you know, but none of that shit

(27:41):
is for me. It is for me to be you know,
acknowledged for Like I ain't tripping on that. I think
one thing about me, like you know, before I was
as blessed as I am. One thing I always, you know,
pray for was to be blessed so I could bless others.
And I feel like that's why I'm blessed. You know.
Still you said you get.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
It from your mother. What is your your mother? Like
your mother wants to be probably.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Be just woman in the world. She just woman them. Yeah, yeah,
sweetest woman in the world.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
What does she do What did she do when you.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Like, always always taking care of somebody else even when
she can't, you know, for the the to take care
of herself. You know what I'm saying, Like she'll she'll
go in debt like helping somebody else. You know, they
won't even they won't even make an honest living for
their damn self. You get what I'm saying. Somebody that
don't even try, you know, And that's a that's a

(28:27):
gift and the curse at the same time, you know
what advantage. Yeah, I'm the one to tell her my
a fuck them, you know what I'm saying, like, yeah,
they're using you get what I'm saying, Your hell, you
got to you know what I'm saying. So and she
got you. And I find myself, you see what I'm saying, Right,
but I find myself you know, like slipping in the

(28:48):
in the you know what I'm saying, like embody and
that that same characteristic yeah here and there, So I'll
be having to tighten up, you know what I'm saying.
That's another thing out And did you know over these
last for fi years, like really creative bound reason you know,
still firm on them.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Your mother must be very proud of you.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, yeah she is.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
How did she? How did she deal when you were
going through some of the ups and downs, the loss?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
You know, I'm strong that. Yeah. We don't speak on
none of it. But I pity. That's one thing about
my mama too, Like I get that from her. I
get that from a woman like never letting nobody feel
sorry for you, like all that type shit, Like she
instilled that in us. Yeah, she had three boys. I'm
the youngest of three boys.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Oh so she likes so yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
For sure, Yeah, we accepting, don't accept pity for nobody.
Don't ever let nobody feel sorry for you, Like that's
how I was raised. So even in times where she
because she didne got just so sweet now and so nice,
she'd be acting like she's so taken away by like
how I am. I'm like you the reason why I'm
like this, You the reason why y'all ass just so

(29:49):
damn mean. I'm like, okay, well you act like you
forget you could be nice as hell to our kids,
but you know, we know what's up, and I appreciate
you know what I'm saying, Like, like, yeah, what she
what she got instilled in me because that's what, you know,
allowed me to maneuver. You know, I maneuver for sure.
For sure.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
That's beautiful in real life. Listen to your questionnaire. What
is your go to karaoke song? You have one? You do?
Do you do karaoke? Are you a fun guy like that?

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Like are you like sing around the crib?

Speaker 1 (30:19):
And like she's very like your energy is good, but
you've seemed kind of serious.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
A lot like nah, hell no, not when you're cookie
not even they don't even got nothing to do with cooking,
Like I have a great time like my person. Yeah,
of course, people know that. You gotta know that I
can get serious, you know what I'm saying for sure,
for sure, But I don't you know when I'm when
I'm comfortable, I'm you know, I have a good time.
What's the song? I got a lot of them?

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Whatever, you're good at it?

Speaker 2 (30:48):
You know I can sing, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
I mean, I'm just saying like I'm playing.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
It's a different thing you know you're talking about, like
like like karaoke night somewhere carry on. I think you
would be good, but not everybody done it. I need
to go somewhere just on the random night you still
do karaoke. No, I really be on the stage performing
for hours like keep your Cold Love that one for sure.

(31:20):
That's definitely one. I'm glad, thank you. Definitely one that
was playing something at the Mornings game last week.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
What's the other one? What was Let Me Love You, Mario,
Let Me You and.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
All the usher?

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, Teavin Campbell. Can we Talk is a good one?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yes, Can we talk? Said? See what you did? Girl
one know your name? Don't be laughing, nigga laughing, nigga
laugh I'm telling you all I listened to like when
I'm around the crib when I'm riding is old school
R and B.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
What are we gonna write as your go to karaoke song?

Speaker 2 (32:06):
We can go with? I like that, We're gonna go
with We're don'na go with? Can we talk?

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Can we talk?

Speaker 2 (32:12):
I like that one?

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Okay, And you're gonna have to go to karaoke to.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Do I'm doing that. You just gave me a okay idea.
Let us know when you're there, get drunk, go to karaoke.
You don't know what I'm there. It's gonna be all
over the internet.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
It's gonna be all what is your superpower.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Oh man, My ability to make people feel good, to
make people believe in theyself, my ability to help people
tap into their potential.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I say that, who have you done that for recently?

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Recently? I do it on a daily basis. I didn't
do it with somebody today. You know what I'm saying,
what happened today? I mean putting people.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Okay, you don't have to give us a name to
make people believe. I believe you. I just wanted some examples.
Bro Okay, all right, what is the one thing on
your bucket list?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Jumping out an airplane?

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Shut up?

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Are yeah? For sure?

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Why would you do that?

Speaker 2 (33:08):
It's so dangerous. It's so funny. My daughter, she's so brave,
my oldest daughter. She's like, I'm gonna do it with you, daddy.
She's dead serious. Oh my god, how she would do
it today? If I say I'm doing it today, baby,
I'm going I'm about to go Scott Dive and she's
gonna say I want to come. If I call her
right now, I say, baby, I'm going Scott Divond Saturday.
She's gonna be like, without me, I promise you, say,

(33:28):
I promise you. She will say that ship right now like, no,
don't do it without me. If you do it, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Please document it said. I got to what is your pet?

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Peeve? Oh? Oh my goodness?

Speaker 1 (33:45):
So many?

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Which one? I want to make this count? I want
to make this one count.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Oh, make a count.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I'm gonna give you three people not cleaning up after
they self dirty. Yes, yes, talking out of turn.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
No one asked you, yes, shut the fuck up?

Speaker 2 (34:08):
And and uh, that's another one. What's another one? Mm hmm,
real good one. Tapping me on my shoulder.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Everybody who knows me, God, I will immediately dislike you. God,
some good mood.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Hey, the whole day sucked up, like because what's what's
going on? Like? What the fuck is going right by
your fist? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:40):
I find it fucking infuriated.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
I took your finger and you were like at me,
like what the fuck am I the fact it's the.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Most offensive thing to God, I'd rather you come and
push me. I should have got but like, Lord, that's
so crazy. Nobody has ever said that. I feel you
so strong? Wait, what is the two things I got?
Poking me? I don't like a liar, but there's another
one like poking too that that's weird. I don't like bullies,

(35:09):
we all know that.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
But I don't like stupid people either.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, right, stupid people.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Stupid people like pok got common sense, Stupid people like
poh boy.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Okay, what's the last thing that sent you down a
rabbit hole?

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Oh? Ship? TikTok?

Speaker 1 (35:28):
What'd you what was you looking at that ship?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Did you show you all type of ship? I got all.
I'd be on there trying to trying to just you know,
do my market and repost my my song and next thing,
you know, in the morning, I'm like, damn, I gotta
wake up at six, like.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Do you do a TikTok? Will you do a dance chat?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Like we do this going off? My algorithm is crazy
right now, my algorithms on five? What are you getting?
That thing? Is what I'm getting? Real, It ain't no,
it ain't like this. It's you know, I'm pretty sure
it's all over everybody.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
That's what I'm saying. That's everybody's hythm.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
It's there. But I mean aside from that food cooking
and ship. Okay, yeah, yeah like that, but right now, pop,
that thing got my shit in the choke hold, Like
I ain't even see any type of stuff I would
normally see. I'm really like, yeah, this ain't even healthy.
I don't even need to be on here seeing my algorithm.
I literally watched it get taken over. I've been saying
it to people around me, like, bro, look at this ship,

(36:24):
like I can't run from this. Like that's when you
know you got to hit those That's good. Yeah, for sure,
that's what I work out for.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
That probably gives you joy, Like do you like them?

Speaker 2 (36:32):
You laugh? It's good, like I say, like, that's that's
the beauty. And to see the music connect, you know
what I'm saying with the audience, and when you see
it connect to so many different audiences, like that's when
you know you got one. You know what I'm saying,
Like it's a whole layer of it where it's just
the fitness world and just the TikTok dancing world and
just the you know, the baddies, the party girls, the niggas, everybody.

(36:58):
It got everybody. You know what I'm saying, Your cold
and that's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
And your what's your favorite moji?

Speaker 2 (37:03):
What you use on the phone, my favorite emoji, my
most commonly used emoji. Yeah, probably gotta be laughing faces
with the tears.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Do you do one tis the sideways?

Speaker 2 (37:14):
I do both of them. I do I do both
mad different ones, either that or probably this one.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Oh I like that one too, that's my goal to
that one.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
That's probably my favorite one.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
I don't know how to draw it. You're supposed to join.
You have to draw your own. I did your whole
ship for you just drawing. You got to do it
and sign it. Look all right? So what do people
need to know? Album?

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Of course you're out right now.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
You know what I'm saying, Go hop on a TikTok challenge,
be more grateful.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Tour just went on Saturday. You going on tour starting
the end of March. So as soon as you get
that tax money, because I know it's coming. As soon
as you get that tax money, go ahead and spend
them a couple of dollars to get them tickets and
you know, and come pop that thing. You know what
I'm saying, Live with me. Come.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
I'm glad you're I'm glad you're doing well.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Glass Right now, I'm having a blast. I can't complain
about the thing.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
The baby is here, the album is out, the singles,
Cooking the tiktoks are going We're gonna now play a game.
What are we playing?

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Lyrically lyrically correct lyrically.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Correct R and B Edition, because he says he'd be
driving around in the cart R and B listening to
nineties R and B music.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Okay, this is your vibe. Let's do a little temperature check.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
All right, We're gonna see if you need to.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
I'm not no, no, okay, what kind of rain drops?
The sulfur real dream?

Speaker 1 (38:41):
I'm gonna let you have that, because you're the guest.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
What kind of rain drops the sulfur real dream of
du you dream?

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Work to work?

Speaker 3 (38:59):
I'm read.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
My gosh, Okay, you would have smoked me on that one.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
She didn't give a half the half the question wasn't out,
but I was gonna let you have that, all right,
Go okay, I see I'm going to have to give
him a handicap on this.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Wow and don't let go? What three things didn't vote
to say?

Speaker 1 (39:23):
There would be? Okay to listen, I'm trying to go ahead.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
I'm sorry, okay, focus, I'm trying to make sure I
got some type of don't let go InVogue? What is it? What?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
What's the question, what are the three things that invokes?

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Said?

Speaker 1 (39:42):
There would be?

Speaker 3 (39:42):
And don't let go?

Speaker 1 (39:44):
That's too hard, think about it. Maybe I don't there
be some no, no, no, you see, I'm trying to
hold me out.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
But I think I think we would agree.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
I think we got. That's a hard one. That's a
hard one.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
That's hard.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
We said we skipping that.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Love making, heartbreaking? Something else, something else breaking? Okay, what
don't I'm trying to make it easy for you.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
I don't. Don't. Don't spell sympathy for him, don't spell me.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
According to Janet Jackson, how was the weather when he
stared into her eyes? What a sunny day? Dark and cloudy,
thunder and rain, hot and human? Okay, finally.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Thunder and rain. You guessed that? He totally guessed that,
you got. I'm gonna let you go. But I know
that you guessed it.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
How you figured that?

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Ready?

Speaker 1 (41:09):
You know the song though, right, my girl going on
a rabbit hole Let's song.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
When it comes to the meeting in Silk's bedroom, they
said you should be there, or well these are hard,
so be there.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Or what.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
No, no, no, no, no, it's not I'm tired.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
You should be there?

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Or what complete it is this multiple choices.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I just know that it's the melody of it. This
is too hard?

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Is there a multiple choice?

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Is not multiple choice? All right?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Go the next the next be square.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Babes, I know it.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
You should have you should have listened to you next? Okay,
well move move on?

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Hey, yo, are you mad because you're losing? This is
and it's not right, but it's okay. M hm. Which
night the Whitney's man supposedly go out with his friends
Friday night?

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Friday?

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Wait the room was? You cannot answer before ringing your bell?

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Three? Be on point. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Turn the heat back on and you come on slide.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
WHOA carry on?

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Okay, we're gonna carry on.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Don't on the technicality, He's okay, winning on the technicality.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Okay. What does Monica want to do before he walks
out of her life?

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Monica probably want to fight, you know, Monica, I know
you want to hurt somebody. Monica want to hurt somebody?

Speaker 1 (42:52):
No, what what does she want to do? What does
want to make? I only want to make mm I
only want to make things right.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Ring the damn bout.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
I only want to make things rast.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
See that's the old Monica. I know Monica now that.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Boy rowdy chick.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah, you ain't doing for that ship Monica. She know,
so forgive me for not because I know you now
I ain't know you.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
I just wanted to record. You know, I'm in slow
motion a little bit to that. Didn't sleep munch last night.
So give me a break because they be liking it,
you know what I mean? Just give me a second.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
No, I don't know, all right, go on? What is it?

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Tight?

Speaker 2 (43:31):
No?

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Stop?

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Got that one?

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Stop?

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Okay? How does Casey from Joe to Ce wake up feeling.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
The hell is that we only had one bellance?

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Does he wake up feeling so time? My clothes, my eyes?

Speaker 1 (43:54):
I wake up feeling so long? She does?

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Carry on?

Speaker 1 (44:03):
I did know what I said? She said, I didn't
want to sing it like that. Three three?

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Okay, this is my last.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
This is the tiebreaker, and like, honestly, if y'all.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Don't have this, can we get the question? Can we
get the question? Please?

Speaker 3 (44:20):
How long did Tevin Campbell want to talk for a minute?

Speaker 2 (44:26):
I mean, you ain't you ain't say who is? No?

Speaker 1 (44:30):
I said the question.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
I'm saying, you never pressed the bell?

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Did he pressed the bell?

Speaker 2 (44:36):
That's the one we were singing with that can we
I'm back breaker.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
I want to go back out for the next one.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Gets poor one. Don't don't look she come on the
next one. What they say? What they say? Yeah, she's
looking for answers. She knowd have went against her.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Come on, Okay, do you know what today is?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
It's an aversion universal. That's one of my carryer you
go to to. You know what I'm telling you. I
do this, but y'a, I'm gonna let youall have it.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
It's okay, what top of the baby?

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Everybody point one