July 12, 2026 • 36 mins
Fenix Flexin Shares Snippets From Upcoming Album, Addresses AI Rumors & More
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You exflex it in the building today.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
First of all, I was I was very excited you
were covering today because your song is lived rent free
in my head for the past. I don't know how
long I let it hear that. I can't get it out.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We're trying to keep it that way. You know, what
does it?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Does? It? Is it invade? I can't imagine you who's
performing it. I haven't seen you on.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
All the we've been down and around.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Is it in your head all the time?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Not so much. It's a whole album, so it's a
lot of them. I got a couple of different favorites,
you know what I mean? Yeah, personally, that wasn't one
of my favorites. When we put it out. We put
out just like one of the like kind of ones
that we had. I just get tested waters and that
boom that ended up snowball effecting it. So it was
all right with this one, roller with this one. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm so curious about how you got here because your
music before was so.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Different, different, Uh. I say, part of it is because
when you're in a group, you've got a lot of
it's a whole collective. Yeah, And I wasn't necessarily with
the lead like creative when it came to like the
creative like direction of where the group was going. You
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, but you have you're clearly a creative.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, most definitely. You can do all types of music.
I love music, all types of music. I've been around
music since I was I was a little one. You know.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
The interesting thing about it having such a moment like this,
a big, like kind of almost viral moment, is that
it introduces you. You're not a new artist.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
New artist at all.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
You're right, you've been at this, but it does open
you up to.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
People, to new people, most definitely, and it allows them
to go back like to the last little catalog this
maybe say maybe two and a half three year rune
kind of like you know, that bumpy roll. You get
to go back and hear all that music that I
was putting out that didn't get to really get put
on a pedestal, you know what I mean. Yeah, So
they're going back and they here and oh he's dope,
you know what I mean. So it feel good.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
What do you say to those people, like to somebody
who's new on board? They on board, they just found you.
This was their introduction. Yeah, what do you like in
introducing your catalog, in your in your history to them?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I would say, go look at uh because if they
look up Phoenix Flex and they obviously gonna see musty
bands I would have I would like go listen to
some of the other solo records like Apologies pain, Uh,
just some of the more uh you know what I mean,
songs that we got a lot of. We got a
lot of different records, you know what I mean. We
got like uh, we got Nirvana samples that we didn't
(02:31):
put like you know what I mean, It completely remixed
the flip on Nirvana songs. We I got a wizard
of a wizard of a producer and a friend perps.
My dog Done he got is inspired by inspired by
r Man.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah for sure. So how long? So so tell me
your history because I don't know that much about your past.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Sou from l A born and raised born in born
in San Diego, Okay, h raised in Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Though it became an artist at what age.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Was just rapping wise like in Gerald, just being a
recording artist.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
This is an artist. Just knew you was like creative,
like somebody.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Was like like eighth grade, not making music, but like
doing like graffiti and stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Oh he was writing first, Yeah for sure? Was that
that was the introduction to like the arts or being
a creative.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Side to something extent, like you know what I mean.
My dad was from a like he was a drummer
in a band called the O Rings, So I would
watch them practice when I was hell young. So I've
been seeing music, listen to music. My first four cassette
tapes off the Ficial Price, a little cassette player. I
remember Snoop Dogg Doggie style. It was a Nirvana nevermind.
It was a food Fighters one, and it was the
(03:46):
Pink Floyd I went back to look like a little.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Triangle like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's on everybody's T shirt.
Yeah T shirt.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I was five six years old, liner rotation.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, so your base of like your influences are wide.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, most definitely. Yeah, I'm saying Pops and Moms was
trippy hippies.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
What was mom? What was moms? What does moms do?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Mom's out the picture, you know, my mom said in
a good while, So I think I was like nine eight,
was that's what I've seen there? Oh? Wow?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
She know you don't know she knows about all the
success and yeah, she knows about it. Oh sorry, is
this sensitive? This is a non I'm sorry, I don't
want to Okay, whatever you want to share on not
share is totally up to you. Just trying, just trying
to get to know you. You don't love that God
bless Yeah. So you grew up with both of them,
(04:40):
and then you grew up so you moved Oh god
she was and then single father, and then you moved
to l A.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, with your Fisher price Fisher prizes before that, before that?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
How old are you when you went to l A?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I think it was the first first grade, second grade.
So mom's having Unison Park. That was That's where I
started at.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Where is that in LA? I don't know?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
HP.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
It's like, what's the vibes there? Is it? Like creative?
Is it? Like?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And you're in a like a you know, it's so funny.
When I was a kid, I used to see because
I grew up in New York, right, and so the
projects was like people who were struggling. They live in
the projects. It's like concrete and dirt everywhere. And I
remember when I first started seeing LA, when they called,
they called like the hood. Yeah, I'd be like, I'd
be like, yo, they got grass, they have homes, this trees,
(05:34):
Like I don't know when I would seeing the hood
in the West.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Coast, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Like that don't look so hard to me.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That's why I s tricky to maneuver. You got, you
know what I'm saying. So you developed like a sixth.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Sense, yeah, because you don't even probably know where stuff
is coming from. And it's spread out.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Spread out, but you know where to go, no where
not to go.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, here's like you on top of each other. So
if the guy in the third floor is the problem,
you know.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
He's right in you don't see him.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You see him every day. Try to stay away from
the element.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
And it is pretty divided up, you know what I'm saying.
If you're into you know that type of stuff, you
know where we're not to go.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah. And then so you when did you like, I
don't know when did the music think start happened.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
To kicked off for real? Like boom? I remember the
first time I ever recorded the song. It was like
the spot in mid City, like you could go there.
I don't know it was. It was weird, like you
sign a paper like, oh, whatever record you make here,
it's ours or whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Oh you could record here, but we own it.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah that's crazy. In case somebody.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Has wild and you signed it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I signed it. Yeah, we didn't make nothing. I think
it was a trying to think. We remixed some beat,
but I copied the like four bars from uh ship
from Paul Wall post like a mailbox. That'sh the weed
in my fendy socks.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Do you like just jacked the lyrics, just.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Just the just the mailbox part.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
It's like a sample or not as an actual verse,
your verse? You like this is mine now.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I post like a mailbox. That was the part shout
out Paul. So he was in big influence that out
turn around full circle moment. When I went to Texas,
I got my permanent grills. Then brother came and picked
me up from the airport.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Wow, that's trippy.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I was thinking about it, like that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
So you do that first song due the Poor World drink.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You don't own it, but I loved it. Once I
heard how I sounded on the microphone, I was like, oh,
this up. I like this. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So you went in and you didn't know what to expect.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You just did it for Like, I never recorded before,
I didn't know ad libs, world, didn't know what doubles was.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I made you go in there, then, how did you
know to even try it?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
My boy Max p Uh, he's an artist. He had
a song a while ago that kind of went up
during the SoundCloud scene, you know what I mean. I'm
not sure sure if he's doing this thing or not,
but he was rapping the high school. I wasn't you
know what I mean, But I was hearing him rap,
and I was seeing like the like the actions he
was getting online. I was like, oh, this is kind
of cool. And I had already been freestyling like like
(08:04):
the house parties and everybody would be like, oh, like, bro,
you hard like you know what I mean? Like you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
So you already knew you could rap, like you Yeah,
I could rap for sure. We were freestyling, is that
what you meant?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Like?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
So you already knew you had some talent?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Definitely? Yeah, started freestylingmies, drinking forties park.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
And then you were like, let'm go into the studio.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
After that day, Yeah, I was trying to figure out
a way to get into the studio.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
But when do you know, like, okay, this is this
is about to be something fast forward.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I think, shout it out, jeezy. He had got a
microphone and he had an iMac or you know what
I mean with the whatever it is the laptop. My
apple had a garage band, garage band and like it
was like a two hundred dollars mic that he had
he had gotten and then we had just started from there.
It was a space ghost PERP type beat. It was
(09:01):
a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. It was that.
So that was the first song we did. I think
I got like a thousand views.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And you know that's from the eighties too. Yeah, so
you was already in your eighties bag out the gates.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
First record that was like really put out and pushed,
like you know what I mean? Was that one I
think we got like a this.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Is not that crazy if you really look at it.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, you know, I always had like a even if
you look back, we've always had like you know what
I mean, like a little bit of that feel to it,
you know what I mean. But I think it got
like a thousand a thousand views like a week or
a day or something like that. But did you think
he was popping? I thought, yeah, I thought we was.
I thought we was out of here, like, oh god,
(09:45):
we made it.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I've arrived.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I'm done exactly. I think it was from that point on,
I'm like, oh, yeah, this is what I want to do.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
That's amazing is that was how many years ago?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Like I was? I think I was like a junior
or high school. Oh wow, probably twenty thirteen twelve.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
People start acting different in school after that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I mean I stopped going to school in the eleventh grade.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Eleventh grade, so you already out when you did that.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, I had a baby very early.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Oh got it? And your child is how old now?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So they might be eleven?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Ryan? Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Three? Alison? Ryan and a Mary?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
How do they feel about what's happening right now?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
They love it? Shit, my son and be singing my
song all day.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It's in his head like everybody else's.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It's funny to see my daughter love it. Hey sometimes,
but you know what I mean, she loved for the
most part.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
How has it been for you though? Because it's it's
one thing to come out of nowhere and whatever. But
it's like another thing to have built this career and
had success and then have a moment like this.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I feel like this in this industry, right, so, like
you know what I mean, you blow up, boom might
kind of plateau a little bit, you know what I mean,
and when you at that level, if you could break
through that level again, that's kind of when you get
to that real deal like boom, Like you know, it's
quote unquote like stardom, superstardom level, you know what I mean. Yeah,
(11:14):
I feel I'm growing into it. I can feel like
I was gonna.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Say, is it weird? Like because it comes with a
lot of.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Energy definitely, does you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
It's like a lot of new energy to new energy.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
A lot of people that didn't care about a lot
of things beforehand that care about them now. A lot
of people that wasn't tapping in about certain things happening,
you know what I mean. So I just take it
for what it is though. It's a blessing, you know
what I mean. Just keep walking in the Lord's path,
you know what I'm saying, and everything else to do
the math?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Does it put pressure on you to think about what's next.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yet, have you not at all? I about to say,
I got I got a great when it comes to
making music, that's the easy part, is it. Yeah? Wow,
Like I haven't wrote a song in probably seven years.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Oh it just comes. Yeah, like you just kind of freestyle.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
It and think about it, coming up with a topic, uh,
general topic, and then you know, now have.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
You been back in the studio since this big?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Of course, we got a hold. The album's done. It's done,
the age, trap rap whatever. I don't know what we're
gonna call it yet, but it's called the project name
is called a Fada State, Uh, executive produced by Purpose Dog.
We got some slaps on there.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I can't wait for the world to hear it.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Is it? Is it the same type of feeling is
in the same pocket.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Or it's a it's a bunch of songs in that
same pocket and in different pockets. Uh, it's just a
it's a well rounded it's a well rounded project, you
know what I mean. Got a little something for everybody.
But it's definitely all kind of from that sound I.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Was gonna I was gonna say, did you feel like
you have to abandon like the old version of you.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
To kind of most definitely for this project, I would say,
I want to say abandoned because we still keep in
the same topics and of course it's me. I ain't
gonna ever, you know what I mean. I play dress
up and like put myself in like like make it
look like I'm like in living in the eighties and nothing.
But I'm just kind of like doing this but with
my lifestyle. Grooving home, yeah, Grove Home movie.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, it doesn't feel like I don't know, because it's
funny cause we were doing like a funny eighties video
for something else and that felt like Halloween. It is
like cartoonish. You don't feel like that. You're not You're
not like o D with the eighties everything, but you
do have eighties influence going on. I mean, your jewelry
is all very modern, you know what I mean? Very
(13:35):
modern jewelry is fire by the way, thank.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
You so much. It's also they're not gemstones. They all are.
You know, we're saying real diamonds. Shoutout Ivy and co.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
There you go, Oh Ivy did all these fire? I
love like I don't know, just the multi colored stones movie.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You know what I'm saying. Groovy, taking it a different way.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Oh he must love you, Yeah he do.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
It's our first time, first time doing bit. We clicked
for sure recently.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
These these all new pieces or no, like three weeks now.
This cross is crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Two of them is coming tomorrow. You want to see
the other one? Yes, please, I'm excited. They touched down tomorrow.
You got so excited.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
He's very excited.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Let me see.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Are all these on me? The pinky the pinky ring too.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It's a different jeweler. This one right here, Yeah cost
a pretty penny. This probably cost about what U these
other rappers putting on their lab watches.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So no lab diamonds for you, la.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
So I got this one right here. Oh and then
I got this one right there.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
That's the one you have about now?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
No, no, no, So these two are coming in tomorrow,
come on, now, fire, you know what I mean. So
I got the color the colored tennis colored tennis change.
It's gonna go on. Three crosses, Triple Cross Family t
CF all very modern, very modern, but groovy, groovy like
a movie.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Groovy like a movie. That should have been the name
of the album.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
The albums that could be the next one we want
next week, you know what I mean for sure?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
So what does the album sound like? When does the drop?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Hey working with Empire, were figuring it all out. You
know what I'm saying. We're working out the kinks, but
it's ready to go. Right now. You play little Yeah,
I would love that.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Is it gonna be stuck in my head now?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Like the other joint? It probably is. This is my
personal favorite, but you know what I mean, Just because
my personal favorite don't mean it's probably gonna be everybody
else's this phoebus giving me youngda.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
This phoebis hundred back. Guy chased the goost this change
to go. Hey, I chased that hundred to watch them away,
watch them burn away?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Tell my saying the other verse, Yeah, sir, Hey, these.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Are good vibes. These are groovy.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Vibes, bringing that like I feel like that's what the
music is lacking right now, is just like vibes, vibes happiness,
I'm saying to the party and dancings to everybody. I'm
saying trying to be like looking much of a tough guy,
you know what I'm saying, because it gets boring right exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
So wait, wait, what's the title of album?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
That one is called a go Room.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
What's the name of the album? Again? You said the
time fadeed stated state Grooviye vibes, I like it, is
this the one? So the one that you did with
Tiger is on there too? Or that's what Tiger about too?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Sure we exchange records.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
So oh, I see.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
She laughed hard and San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
So wait, do you think that this is going to
be like like other artists are gonna Do you think
you're starting a wave.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Of body seeing it?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Like, because I'm kind of feeling it and seeing it too.
I'm seeing the influence at least, I.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Mean, I guess. I just like this. Imitation is the
biggest form of flattery. And if I can inspire anybody
to do something that's positive and uh, something that could
probably potentially help them themselves in their career and better
themselves as a person and put their family in a
better position, I'm all for that.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
So no, weird that you don't feel like you own
it and you made it and that type of guy. Yeah,
just vibes. That would be bad vibes.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I'd like to do what I do. Focus on what
I do.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
You're a vibes guy.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Viby dude, you're a vibe dude.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I loved I love that. I love that all right?
So what else is on that? What about features anything
like that?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
We that features uh Fresh, my boy Max. That's gonna
be I mean Fresh and Max Beiby showing a movie tomorrow,
So what.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Do you shooting? Can we snippet that one?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
We got that coming tomorrow, just performing at my barbecue.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
If you're in town, you should absolutely come. And I
saw that on on your celebrity crush is Coiler Ray. Yeah,
Coiler Ray is also performing barbecue.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Her friend's.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Shout planning to blush. Hey, you need to drop this tomorrow.
You gotta don't. Don't let you know what I mean.
You got to ride the wave Now. I want the
whole album.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Now, it's all the Empire, Empire. We gotta we work
in the morning, Empire.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Is this the French one?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
When did you do this a month ago? To That's
not the pressure.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
That's a different one. We're getting like a full album
release party. It's like an album release party here today.
This is great. Did you know French before?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Uh No, I mean of course I know him him
as an artist, but like I have never met him personally,
so now yeah, that's not run it. Uh checking out
(19:33):
these bankroths for the payday, Yeah, brother, it's like five
minutes ten minutes to that.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I'm just he did it in five minutes. And Max
is on this too.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah. Right here after that he went through like a
little a little bridge on it. It was too smooth.
If you're gonna stop it right there for y'all at
the Bridge.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Exclusive Explosive.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
That band right there, I have a release right now.
I love that. But yeah, we got a lot of
hot all types of vibes from here to Phil Collins
to Phenis flexing. What I'm saying, we ain't starting.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
So wait when you made that song, is the first
time you met French and Max?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
So you just that was my first time?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah, just happened in the studio.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, I mean Max he part of the reason why,
you know, short up my feel We had like the
like the wavy like stuff that we would put into it.
You know what I'm saying, So shout the wave, God absolute,
you know what I'm saying. Full circle moment.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I love that and you get into it right, You're
not gonna miss this, Uh, like you like you get
into it like you're shooting the video.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Tomorrow, getting to it and always get into it. Yeah,
this that moment right here, gotta see it.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
So when does the album drop?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Do you know, jensh what you're thinking?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
This Empire.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
The same. It's coming so a lot sooner than later.
I'd say, no longer than maybe two months, two months.
But with that being said, within that period of time,
there's going to be like probably three videos shot and dropped. Amazing,
y'all have enough to hold y'all over, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I'm excited. I love it. It's a vibe, right and
it has to be like summer. You can't like that
the summer pass.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
But I feel like it's great because it's like the
outro the summer August is like that, like that, you know,
it's like fall getting back into it. Yeah, and it's
like the perfect way to kind of get into the
new year, you know what I'm saying, New year, new vibe, positivity.
You know what I'm saying, this kind of this is
a good feeling.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I love that we just did a whole mini album
released party by the way, her Now I'll take it,
you know what?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'm saying I love that power one on five to
one gotta down.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I mean, what is say? There has been like some
people have seen speculation online about I guess people have
accused you of like AI issue because there are AI
eighties songs. I also see the influence of that, and
I wonder if it's like influenced from you like we
saw we just we just saw to spend that eighties version.
Have you seen that?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I haven't like young amazed they.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Did the eighties.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I heard a great uh that was somebody had made
that full AI song on uh was on TikTok. I
heard it and I was like, damn, it look sounded hard.
It was the one that was like how to go?
It was that, Yes, that's it was.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Some of the MAI songs sound like.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You know what I mean. Yeah, it's all recorded my later.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
On all that, but you can appreciate some of the
AI joints.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I'm not like it I about to say anything that
make the I'm saying, keep the name of rotation, hey
keep going.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Oh for people to say whatever, Yeah, yeah, I heard you.
You filled out in real life questionnaire. By the way,
last thing you ate Buffalo Chicken heard you. What is
your go to karaoke song? Rubbers?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
That's what you do them?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Has nobody? Has nobody come at you for like an endorsement,
like a like a to start your own rubbers or ah, man,
you're making them, I mean merch. You're like you need
you need you need a rubbers No.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Exclusive or like a brand or deal with like twenty
the twenty four carried gold packaging. Yeah, something exclusive?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Get your money? What is your superpower manifestation? Master manifestation?
How does that work?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
You just got to learn how to use your uh
your use your brain the right way.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Who's the last thing you manifested?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, yeah, you know this, all of this. This is
the next thing.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
He got a manifest Now you got to manifest your
celebrity crush. Oh yeah, for sure, Coiler Ray is a
celebrity crush. Come on down to Angie's Barbecue. I'm gonna
do your little introduction. What is one thing on your
bucket list?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Freedom?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
What will give you freedom?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Its true freedom, true freedom, true freedom.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, find true freedom, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
True freedom. Just I just feel like all the time.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
And your pet peeve chew loud chewing, disgusting, disgusting.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I can't stand it.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
That's what if you're like on a first date. What
if on a date, what if she's real pretty like
you've been trying to go out with your girl. What
if it's coiler ray.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I probably wouldn't say nothing.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
You would let that slide. Probably he would let us
note the last thing that sent you down a rabbit hole?
What is this devil fruit?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah? Loki uh and uh for one piece? You know
what I'm saying, elbath Uh? Yeah, I mean he was
a squabbling emil right now and then uh, like he
put out his devil fruit, like we get to see
a little bit of his devil forul power as a dragon.
We ain't good to see him in his like his
half human have his own form. So I'm waiting for it.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
And so you just went down the rabbit hole watching videos.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Or specifically Unlokey because he got like he got more
to him than me. STI I know my guard coming
with some like you know it's not ending what it's
inding right now?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
God, are you gonna send me down a rabbit hole
to investigate all of this? Now?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah? One piece out? I got older?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Okay, all right, we're gonna do our game. You ready?
You start? All right? By the way, your favorite emoji
is a peach?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Do I ask why?
Speaker 4 (26:15):
No?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
He's lea it's a good truit. Do you use it
every day the peach emoji? I don't think so, not
every day, but often it's your favorite.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I'm lucky.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Classic is great? All right, check it or let it slid.
We're gonna tell your scenario. You tell us if you
would check that ship or you would let it slide,
if this is a problem or not a problem.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Ready?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Go? They're silly.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
You send your friend an unreleased song to get his opinion.
Two weeks later, he's playing it at his kickback like
it's his exclusive.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I mean, like, is he just playing it like out
loud or is he playing it like from like he
didn't released it.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
He's playing it like to his friends.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Okay, all good, look aside. Yeah, my brother out there
like man, bro gast up.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Y'all got to hear this like he's feeling your ship
like he's feeling it. Am All right, check this and
let us lie. Your boy shows up wearing the same
exact fit as you. So chill. I love that.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
An artist who you respect ignores your d MS for
a feature. You blow up six months later, and suddenly
that's your family. He's cleaning U as fan.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
All of pends, you know what I mean? You never know?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Uh, I feel like this probably is happening to you
now kind.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Of sort of, but I kind of keep my I
keep my circle. Very I experienced with happened if you
let too many, too many, too many crabs in the
bucket and you can't get out the bucket on one.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Okay, uh, You're at the club, the club and the
DJ is playing an exclusive, your brand new song. They're
about to play it. He cuts your song off before
he even gets to your verse.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Do you check that, I'll check that. We'll walk it
right up there. Let me high at you. What's going on?
I'm like, you know, you fucking me? You're what what
you mean? While you cut it out my verse? And
(28:57):
then whatever his response is after that will determine the
next one thing at a time. Yeah, I'm a very
I'm a lot calmer now than I used to be.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Old you would be more aggressive.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, you can say that. I believe you.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Okay, Okay, you go. Somebody asked to hit your blunt.
I don't smoke weed hypothetically. Hypothetically, that's weird.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
If it's one of them, means I used to smoke
weed every day. But if I know you like weirdo,
this is amazing.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I'm so calling somebody a weirdo before the end of
the day. I don't use weirdo enough doing it in LA.
It's bad in l A, is it? Oh, here's no
big deal, just a weird though.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It's like cookie tripping.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Really, I'm glad you told me that because I'm going
to LA next week and I really could have called
somebody in weirdo. You just set me up. Really is
really bad in LA, it's disrespectful. In New York, it's
really not that weird. Why are you being a weirdo?
We said up all the time, You've been a fucking weirdo.
(30:17):
You don't like it, He's like, why y'all say that?
Learn some new ship every day? All right? Last one?
Your girl knows all the lyrics to your ops songs.
You're out of here, buco Does that mean you're checking it?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Checking it.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Out the door?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Out the door?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
I got one more, Let's do two more. Here's another one.
You're at the restaurant and you tell your friends that
you offer to pay the bill for dinner. Yeah, homie
orders the most expensive thing on the menu.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Sounds like a typical day after week, sounds like a Wednesday.
I always ask questions about it. Oh, I wonder what
this one? This is something?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Bob?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Sure your ex? I have two more? Your ex starts
dating somebody who copied your whole style, the clothes, the tattoos.
Do you check that or you let that start?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I acknowledge it?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Is that a Thursday that happenedday Sunday? What's new? Yeah,
that's what it is. Okay, somebody I hate to end
on this h enjoy of not enjoy love by the way,
(32:06):
you got bars, because that's a whole other album title.
Enjoy Love a fucking great album title, by the way, Yeah,
or a song if you didn't finish the album, you
got a space for a joint. Enjoy love. You know
it's pretty good like that. There's some writer ship you
just had it and you just throw them out there
(32:27):
like that. Okay, last one you pull up, You pull
up to a function and someone immediately asks, when are
you gonna put me on? M M.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
We live in LA. A lot of things.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
What do you what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
In LA?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I feel like I need an LA tutorial right now.
Put me on with music, yeah, put me in a game.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
So I'd be like, let me hear your music.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
You do that?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, right on the spot. Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
If I know his name, I would say his name.
But we were in second street. Broh came up to me.
He was like, I got something for you to hear.
I just walk up to me, said like that and
then pulled out a speaker. I'm like okay, and he
played it like hed you not. It was some of
the best music I heard in a long time. He
was a singer. I gotta get in touch with bro brother.
(33:22):
If you if you hear this interview, reach out to
me or the hummies in my bio and uh, I
gotta type people. Brother.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
You didn't get his number at the moment.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
My boy did. My boy did actually Scott his number
when I'll get back to LA. So you so you
found somebody in the middle of that surprisingly good.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Wow, amazing story. We love a good story. Good for him.
I hope that works out. You said something before before
we wrap up. You said that you don't you stop
smoke used to smoke weed every day and you stop
every day? How come you stop?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Have really bad anxiety from the weed? Uh no, just
from life.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Some people say weed helps the anxiety.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I'll be through a live m.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
So you need to let it go. Was it easy
the stop smoking?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah for sure?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah, good for you. Do you feel better? Do you
feel different? Does it help?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Do you feel uh a little bit more introverted?
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I used to be more, definitely because the weed probably
helps with that, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I don't. I don't ever go out to no clubs
or nothing in that seconds out here.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah. How you managing the anxiety with all this new
attention on you?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
That's a little hard shut out thought. I got my
my good like my good peoples around you know, you
got a good squad, right, my emotional support team.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, that's probably why you make this good baby music.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, most definitely right, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, because like the songs you were just playing me
and Robert like how you have to has to put
you in a good space.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Like you know what I'm saying. All the projects were
probably like its feel anger fuel, you know what I mean?
Mm hmm, good place right now?
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Oh I love that for you. Well, I'm glad your
good place got you to this, to this wind that
you got to win this good place. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Damn. We gotta keep them going, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
artists watching them, don't get comfortable. Soon as y'all get comfortable,
you know what I'm saying, God will take them blessings
that's quat because you give them to you. So see
your toes and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Where we see you, Where we see you in five years.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Five years from now, Fenny Kravitz, now be the next
leather jeans on stage somewhere in the UK for like
ten thousand people in front of me.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Mm hmm. Manifest that ship right.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
There, gentry, gent you right there on the PJ. There
it is. I love it.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Same congratulations man, good to meet you today, Phoenix Flex
and every bodies spoun on fast Way Weather
You exflex it in the building today.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
First of all, I was I was very excited you
were covering today because your song is lived rent free
in my head for the past. I don't know how
long I let it hear that. I can't get it out.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We're trying to keep it that way. You know, what
does it?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Does? It? Is it invade? I can't imagine you who's
performing it. I haven't seen you on.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
All the we've been down and around.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Is it in your head all the time?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Not so much. It's a whole album, so it's a
lot of them. I got a couple of different favorites,
you know what I mean? Yeah, personally, that wasn't one
of my favorites. When we put it out. We put
out just like one of the like kind of ones
that we had. I just get tested waters and that
boom that ended up snowball effecting it. So it was
all right with this one, roller with this one. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm so curious about how you got here because your
music before was so.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Different, different, Uh. I say, part of it is because
when you're in a group, you've got a lot of
it's a whole collective. Yeah, And I wasn't necessarily with
the lead like creative when it came to like the
creative like direction of where the group was going. You
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, but you have you're clearly a creative.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, most definitely. You can do all types of music.
I love music, all types of music. I've been around
music since I was I was a little one. You know.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
The interesting thing about it having such a moment like this,
a big, like kind of almost viral moment, is that
it introduces you. You're not a new artist.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
New artist at all.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
You're right, you've been at this, but it does open
you up to.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
People, to new people, most definitely, and it allows them
to go back like to the last little catalog this
maybe say maybe two and a half three year rune
kind of like you know, that bumpy roll. You get
to go back and hear all that music that I
was putting out that didn't get to really get put
on a pedestal, you know what I mean. Yeah, So
they're going back and they here and oh he's dope,
you know what I mean. So it feel good.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
What do you say to those people, like to somebody
who's new on board? They on board, they just found you.
This was their introduction. Yeah, what do you like in
introducing your catalog, in your in your history to them?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I would say, go look at uh because if they
look up Phoenix Flex and they obviously gonna see musty
bands I would have I would like go listen to
some of the other solo records like Apologies pain, Uh,
just some of the more uh you know what I mean,
songs that we got a lot of. We got a
lot of different records, you know what I mean. We
got like uh, we got Nirvana samples that we didn't
(02:31):
put like you know what I mean, It completely remixed
the flip on Nirvana songs. We I got a wizard
of a wizard of a producer and a friend perps.
My dog Done he got is inspired by inspired by
r Man.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah for sure. So how long? So so tell me
your history because I don't know that much about your past.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Sou from l A born and raised born in born
in San Diego, Okay, h raised in Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Though it became an artist at what age.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Was just rapping wise like in Gerald, just being a
recording artist.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
This is an artist. Just knew you was like creative,
like somebody.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Was like like eighth grade, not making music, but like
doing like graffiti and stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Oh he was writing first, Yeah for sure? Was that
that was the introduction to like the arts or being
a creative.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Side to something extent, like you know what I mean.
My dad was from a like he was a drummer
in a band called the O Rings, So I would
watch them practice when I was hell young. So I've
been seeing music, listen to music. My first four cassette
tapes off the Ficial Price, a little cassette player. I
remember Snoop Dogg Doggie style. It was a Nirvana nevermind.
It was a food Fighters one, and it was the
(03:46):
Pink Floyd I went back to look like a little.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Triangle like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's on everybody's T shirt.
Yeah T shirt.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I was five six years old, liner rotation.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, so your base of like your influences are wide.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, most definitely. Yeah, I'm saying Pops and Moms was
trippy hippies.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
What was mom? What was moms? What does moms do?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Mom's out the picture, you know, my mom said in
a good while, So I think I was like nine eight,
was that's what I've seen there? Oh? Wow?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
She know you don't know she knows about all the
success and yeah, she knows about it. Oh sorry, is
this sensitive? This is a non I'm sorry, I don't
want to Okay, whatever you want to share on not
share is totally up to you. Just trying, just trying
to get to know you. You don't love that God
bless Yeah. So you grew up with both of them,
(04:40):
and then you grew up so you moved Oh god
she was and then single father, and then you moved
to l A.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, with your Fisher price Fisher prizes before that, before that?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
How old are you when you went to l A?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I think it was the first first grade, second grade.
So mom's having Unison Park. That was That's where I
started at.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Where is that in LA? I don't know?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
HP.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
It's like, what's the vibes there? Is it? Like creative?
Is it? Like?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And you're in a like a you know, it's so funny.
When I was a kid, I used to see because
I grew up in New York, right, and so the
projects was like people who were struggling. They live in
the projects. It's like concrete and dirt everywhere. And I
remember when I first started seeing LA, when they called,
they called like the hood. Yeah, I'd be like, I'd
be like, yo, they got grass, they have homes, this trees,
(05:34):
Like I don't know when I would seeing the hood
in the West.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Coast, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Like that don't look so hard to me.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That's why I s tricky to maneuver. You got, you
know what I'm saying. So you developed like a sixth.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Sense, yeah, because you don't even probably know where stuff
is coming from. And it's spread out.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Spread out, but you know where to go, no where
not to go.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, here's like you on top of each other. So
if the guy in the third floor is the problem,
you know.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
He's right in you don't see him.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You see him every day. Try to stay away from
the element.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
And it is pretty divided up, you know what I'm saying.
If you're into you know that type of stuff, you
know where we're not to go.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah. And then so you when did you like, I
don't know when did the music think start happened.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
To kicked off for real? Like boom? I remember the
first time I ever recorded the song. It was like
the spot in mid City, like you could go there.
I don't know it was. It was weird, like you
sign a paper like, oh, whatever record you make here,
it's ours or whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Oh you could record here, but we own it.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah that's crazy. In case somebody.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Has wild and you signed it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I signed it. Yeah, we didn't make nothing. I think
it was a trying to think. We remixed some beat,
but I copied the like four bars from uh ship
from Paul Wall post like a mailbox. That'sh the weed
in my fendy socks.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Do you like just jacked the lyrics, just.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Just the just the mailbox part.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
It's like a sample or not as an actual verse,
your verse? You like this is mine now.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I post like a mailbox. That was the part shout
out Paul. So he was in big influence that out
turn around full circle moment. When I went to Texas,
I got my permanent grills. Then brother came and picked
me up from the airport.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Wow, that's trippy.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I was thinking about it, like that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
So you do that first song due the Poor World drink.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You don't own it, but I loved it. Once I
heard how I sounded on the microphone, I was like, oh,
this up. I like this. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So you went in and you didn't know what to expect.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You just did it for Like, I never recorded before,
I didn't know ad libs, world, didn't know what doubles was.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I made you go in there, then, how did you
know to even try it?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
My boy Max p Uh, he's an artist. He had
a song a while ago that kind of went up
during the SoundCloud scene, you know what I mean. I'm
not sure sure if he's doing this thing or not,
but he was rapping the high school. I wasn't you
know what I mean, But I was hearing him rap,
and I was seeing like the like the actions he
was getting online. I was like, oh, this is kind
of cool. And I had already been freestyling like like
(08:04):
the house parties and everybody would be like, oh, like, bro,
you hard like you know what I mean? Like you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
So you already knew you could rap, like you Yeah,
I could rap for sure. We were freestyling, is that
what you meant?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Like?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
So you already knew you had some talent?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Definitely? Yeah, started freestylingmies, drinking forties park.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
And then you were like, let'm go into the studio.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
After that day, Yeah, I was trying to figure out
a way to get into the studio.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
But when do you know, like, okay, this is this
is about to be something fast forward.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I think, shout it out, jeezy. He had got a
microphone and he had an iMac or you know what
I mean with the whatever it is the laptop. My
apple had a garage band, garage band and like it
was like a two hundred dollars mic that he had
he had gotten and then we had just started from there.
It was a space ghost PERP type beat. It was
(09:01):
a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. It was that.
So that was the first song we did. I think
I got like a thousand views.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And you know that's from the eighties too. Yeah, so
you was already in your eighties bag out the gates.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
First record that was like really put out and pushed,
like you know what I mean? Was that one I
think we got like a this.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Is not that crazy if you really look at it.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, you know, I always had like a even if
you look back, we've always had like you know what
I mean, like a little bit of that feel to it,
you know what I mean. But I think it got
like a thousand a thousand views like a week or
a day or something like that. But did you think
he was popping? I thought, yeah, I thought we was.
I thought we was out of here, like, oh god,
(09:45):
we made it.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I've arrived.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I'm done exactly. I think it was from that point on,
I'm like, oh, yeah, this is what I want to do.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
That's amazing is that was how many years ago?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Like I was? I think I was like a junior
or high school. Oh wow, probably twenty thirteen twelve.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
People start acting different in school after that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I mean I stopped going to school in the eleventh grade.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Eleventh grade, so you already out when you did that.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, I had a baby very early.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Oh got it? And your child is how old now?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So they might be eleven?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Ryan? Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Three? Alison? Ryan and a Mary?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
How do they feel about what's happening right now?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
They love it? Shit, my son and be singing my
song all day.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It's in his head like everybody else's.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It's funny to see my daughter love it. Hey sometimes,
but you know what I mean, she loved for the
most part.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
How has it been for you though? Because it's it's
one thing to come out of nowhere and whatever. But
it's like another thing to have built this career and
had success and then have a moment like this.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I feel like this in this industry, right, so, like
you know what I mean, you blow up, boom might
kind of plateau a little bit, you know what I mean,
and when you at that level, if you could break
through that level again, that's kind of when you get
to that real deal like boom, Like you know, it's
quote unquote like stardom, superstardom level, you know what I mean. Yeah,
(11:14):
I feel I'm growing into it. I can feel like
I was gonna.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Say, is it weird? Like because it comes with a
lot of.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Energy definitely, does you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
It's like a lot of new energy to new energy.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
A lot of people that didn't care about a lot
of things beforehand that care about them now. A lot
of people that wasn't tapping in about certain things happening,
you know what I mean. So I just take it
for what it is though. It's a blessing, you know
what I mean. Just keep walking in the Lord's path,
you know what I'm saying, and everything else to do
the math?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Does it put pressure on you to think about what's next.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yet, have you not at all? I about to say,
I got I got a great when it comes to
making music, that's the easy part, is it. Yeah? Wow,
Like I haven't wrote a song in probably seven years.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Oh it just comes. Yeah, like you just kind of freestyle.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
It and think about it, coming up with a topic, uh,
general topic, and then you know, now have.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
You been back in the studio since this big?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Of course, we got a hold. The album's done. It's done,
the age, trap rap whatever. I don't know what we're
gonna call it yet, but it's called the project name
is called a Fada State, Uh, executive produced by Purpose Dog.
We got some slaps on there.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I can't wait for the world to hear it.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Is it? Is it the same type of feeling is
in the same pocket.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Or it's a it's a bunch of songs in that
same pocket and in different pockets. Uh, it's just a
it's a well rounded it's a well rounded project, you
know what I mean. Got a little something for everybody.
But it's definitely all kind of from that sound I.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Was gonna I was gonna say, did you feel like
you have to abandon like the old version of you.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
To kind of most definitely for this project, I would say,
I want to say abandoned because we still keep in
the same topics and of course it's me. I ain't
gonna ever, you know what I mean. I play dress
up and like put myself in like like make it
look like I'm like in living in the eighties and nothing.
But I'm just kind of like doing this but with
my lifestyle. Grooving home, yeah, Grove Home movie.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, it doesn't feel like I don't know, because it's
funny cause we were doing like a funny eighties video
for something else and that felt like Halloween. It is
like cartoonish. You don't feel like that. You're not You're
not like o D with the eighties everything, but you
do have eighties influence going on. I mean, your jewelry
is all very modern, you know what I mean? Very
(13:35):
modern jewelry is fire by the way, thank.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
You so much. It's also they're not gemstones. They all are.
You know, we're saying real diamonds. Shoutout Ivy and co.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
There you go, Oh Ivy did all these fire? I
love like I don't know, just the multi colored stones movie.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You know what I'm saying. Groovy, taking it a different way.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Oh he must love you, Yeah he do.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
It's our first time, first time doing bit. We clicked
for sure recently.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
These these all new pieces or no, like three weeks now.
This cross is crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Two of them is coming tomorrow. You want to see
the other one? Yes, please, I'm excited. They touched down tomorrow.
You got so excited.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
He's very excited.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Let me see.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Are all these on me? The pinky the pinky ring too.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It's a different jeweler. This one right here, Yeah cost
a pretty penny. This probably cost about what U these
other rappers putting on their lab watches.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So no lab diamonds for you, la.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
So I got this one right here. Oh and then
I got this one right there.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
That's the one you have about now?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
No, no, no, So these two are coming in tomorrow,
come on, now, fire, you know what I mean. So
I got the color the colored tennis colored tennis change.
It's gonna go on. Three crosses, Triple Cross Family t
CF all very modern, very modern, but groovy, groovy like
a movie.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Groovy like a movie. That should have been the name
of the album.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
The albums that could be the next one we want
next week, you know what I mean for sure?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
So what does the album sound like? When does the drop?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Hey working with Empire, were figuring it all out. You
know what I'm saying. We're working out the kinks, but
it's ready to go. Right now. You play little Yeah,
I would love that.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Is it gonna be stuck in my head now?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Like the other joint? It probably is. This is my
personal favorite, but you know what I mean, Just because
my personal favorite don't mean it's probably gonna be everybody
else's this phoebus giving me youngda.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
This phoebis hundred back. Guy chased the goost this change
to go. Hey, I chased that hundred to watch them away,
watch them burn away?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Tell my saying the other verse, Yeah, sir, Hey, these.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Are good vibes. These are groovy.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Vibes, bringing that like I feel like that's what the
music is lacking right now, is just like vibes, vibes happiness,
I'm saying to the party and dancings to everybody. I'm
saying trying to be like looking much of a tough guy,
you know what I'm saying, because it gets boring right exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
So wait, wait, what's the title of album?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
That one is called a go Room.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
What's the name of the album? Again? You said the
time fadeed stated state Grooviye vibes, I like it, is
this the one? So the one that you did with
Tiger is on there too? Or that's what Tiger about too?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Sure we exchange records.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
So oh, I see.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
She laughed hard and San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
So wait, do you think that this is going to
be like like other artists are gonna Do you think
you're starting a wave.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Of body seeing it?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Like, because I'm kind of feeling it and seeing it too.
I'm seeing the influence at least, I.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Mean, I guess. I just like this. Imitation is the
biggest form of flattery. And if I can inspire anybody
to do something that's positive and uh, something that could
probably potentially help them themselves in their career and better
themselves as a person and put their family in a
better position, I'm all for that.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
So no, weird that you don't feel like you own
it and you made it and that type of guy. Yeah,
just vibes. That would be bad vibes.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I'd like to do what I do. Focus on what
I do.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
You're a vibes guy.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Viby dude, you're a vibe dude.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I loved I love that. I love that all right?
So what else is on that? What about features anything
like that?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
We that features uh Fresh, my boy Max. That's gonna
be I mean Fresh and Max Beiby showing a movie tomorrow,
So what.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Do you shooting? Can we snippet that one?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
We got that coming tomorrow, just performing at my barbecue.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
If you're in town, you should absolutely come. And I
saw that on on your celebrity crush is Coiler Ray. Yeah,
Coiler Ray is also performing barbecue.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Her friend's.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Shout planning to blush. Hey, you need to drop this tomorrow.
You gotta don't. Don't let you know what I mean.
You got to ride the wave Now. I want the
whole album.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Now, it's all the Empire, Empire. We gotta we work
in the morning, Empire.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Is this the French one?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
When did you do this a month ago? To That's
not the pressure.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
That's a different one. We're getting like a full album
release party. It's like an album release party here today.
This is great. Did you know French before?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Uh No, I mean of course I know him him
as an artist, but like I have never met him personally,
so now yeah, that's not run it. Uh checking out
(19:33):
these bankroths for the payday, Yeah, brother, it's like five
minutes ten minutes to that.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I'm just he did it in five minutes. And Max
is on this too.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah. Right here after that he went through like a
little a little bridge on it. It was too smooth.
If you're gonna stop it right there for y'all at
the Bridge.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Exclusive Explosive.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
That band right there, I have a release right now.
I love that. But yeah, we got a lot of
hot all types of vibes from here to Phil Collins
to Phenis flexing. What I'm saying, we ain't starting.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
So wait when you made that song, is the first
time you met French and Max?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
So you just that was my first time?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah, just happened in the studio.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, I mean Max he part of the reason why,
you know, short up my feel We had like the
like the wavy like stuff that we would put into it.
You know what I'm saying, So shout the wave, God absolute,
you know what I'm saying. Full circle moment.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I love that and you get into it right, You're
not gonna miss this, Uh, like you like you get
into it like you're shooting the video.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Tomorrow, getting to it and always get into it. Yeah,
this that moment right here, gotta see it.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
So when does the album drop?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Do you know, jensh what you're thinking?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
This Empire.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
The same. It's coming so a lot sooner than later.
I'd say, no longer than maybe two months, two months.
But with that being said, within that period of time,
there's going to be like probably three videos shot and dropped. Amazing,
y'all have enough to hold y'all over, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I'm excited. I love it. It's a vibe, right and
it has to be like summer. You can't like that
the summer pass.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
But I feel like it's great because it's like the
outro the summer August is like that, like that, you know,
it's like fall getting back into it. Yeah, and it's
like the perfect way to kind of get into the
new year, you know what I'm saying, New year, new vibe, positivity.
You know what I'm saying, this kind of this is
a good feeling.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I love that we just did a whole mini album
released party by the way, her Now I'll take it,
you know what?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'm saying I love that power one on five to
one gotta down.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I mean, what is say? There has been like some
people have seen speculation online about I guess people have
accused you of like AI issue because there are AI
eighties songs. I also see the influence of that, and
I wonder if it's like influenced from you like we
saw we just we just saw to spend that eighties version.
Have you seen that?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I haven't like young amazed they.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Did the eighties.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I heard a great uh that was somebody had made
that full AI song on uh was on TikTok. I
heard it and I was like, damn, it look sounded hard.
It was the one that was like how to go?
It was that, Yes, that's it was.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Some of the MAI songs sound like.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You know what I mean. Yeah, it's all recorded my later.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
On all that, but you can appreciate some of the
AI joints.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I'm not like it I about to say anything that
make the I'm saying, keep the name of rotation, hey
keep going.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Oh for people to say whatever, Yeah, yeah, I heard you.
You filled out in real life questionnaire. By the way,
last thing you ate Buffalo Chicken heard you. What is
your go to karaoke song? Rubbers?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
That's what you do them?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Has nobody? Has nobody come at you for like an endorsement,
like a like a to start your own rubbers or ah, man,
you're making them, I mean merch. You're like you need
you need you need a rubbers No.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Exclusive or like a brand or deal with like twenty
the twenty four carried gold packaging. Yeah, something exclusive?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Get your money? What is your superpower manifestation? Master manifestation?
How does that work?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
You just got to learn how to use your uh
your use your brain the right way.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Who's the last thing you manifested?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, yeah, you know this, all of this. This is
the next thing.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
He got a manifest Now you got to manifest your
celebrity crush. Oh yeah, for sure, Coiler Ray is a
celebrity crush. Come on down to Angie's Barbecue. I'm gonna
do your little introduction. What is one thing on your
bucket list?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Freedom?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
What will give you freedom?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Its true freedom, true freedom, true freedom.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, find true freedom, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
True freedom. Just I just feel like all the time.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
And your pet peeve chew loud chewing, disgusting, disgusting.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I can't stand it.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
That's what if you're like on a first date. What
if on a date, what if she's real pretty like
you've been trying to go out with your girl. What
if it's coiler ray.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I probably wouldn't say nothing.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
You would let that slide. Probably he would let us
note the last thing that sent you down a rabbit hole?
What is this devil fruit?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah? Loki uh and uh for one piece? You know
what I'm saying, elbath Uh? Yeah, I mean he was
a squabbling emil right now and then uh, like he
put out his devil fruit, like we get to see
a little bit of his devil forul power as a dragon.
We ain't good to see him in his like his
half human have his own form. So I'm waiting for it.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
And so you just went down the rabbit hole watching videos.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Or specifically Unlokey because he got like he got more
to him than me. STI I know my guard coming
with some like you know it's not ending what it's
inding right now?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
God, are you gonna send me down a rabbit hole
to investigate all of this? Now?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah? One piece out? I got older?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Okay, all right, we're gonna do our game. You ready?
You start? All right? By the way, your favorite emoji
is a peach?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Do I ask why?
Speaker 4 (26:15):
No?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
He's lea it's a good truit. Do you use it
every day the peach emoji? I don't think so, not
every day, but often it's your favorite.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I'm lucky.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Classic is great? All right, check it or let it slid.
We're gonna tell your scenario. You tell us if you
would check that ship or you would let it slide,
if this is a problem or not a problem.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Ready?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Go? They're silly.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
You send your friend an unreleased song to get his opinion.
Two weeks later, he's playing it at his kickback like
it's his exclusive.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I mean, like, is he just playing it like out
loud or is he playing it like from like he
didn't released it.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
He's playing it like to his friends.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Okay, all good, look aside. Yeah, my brother out there
like man, bro gast up.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Y'all got to hear this like he's feeling your ship
like he's feeling it. Am All right, check this and
let us lie. Your boy shows up wearing the same
exact fit as you. So chill. I love that.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
An artist who you respect ignores your d MS for
a feature. You blow up six months later, and suddenly
that's your family. He's cleaning U as fan.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
All of pends, you know what I mean? You never know?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Uh, I feel like this probably is happening to you
now kind.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Of sort of, but I kind of keep my I
keep my circle. Very I experienced with happened if you
let too many, too many, too many crabs in the
bucket and you can't get out the bucket on one.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Okay, uh, You're at the club, the club and the
DJ is playing an exclusive, your brand new song. They're
about to play it. He cuts your song off before
he even gets to your verse.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Do you check that, I'll check that. We'll walk it
right up there. Let me high at you. What's going on?
I'm like, you know, you fucking me? You're what what
you mean? While you cut it out my verse? And
(28:57):
then whatever his response is after that will determine the
next one thing at a time. Yeah, I'm a very
I'm a lot calmer now than I used to be.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Old you would be more aggressive.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, you can say that. I believe you.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Okay, Okay, you go. Somebody asked to hit your blunt.
I don't smoke weed hypothetically. Hypothetically, that's weird.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
If it's one of them, means I used to smoke
weed every day. But if I know you like weirdo,
this is amazing.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I'm so calling somebody a weirdo before the end of
the day. I don't use weirdo enough doing it in LA.
It's bad in l A, is it? Oh, here's no
big deal, just a weird though.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It's like cookie tripping.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Really, I'm glad you told me that because I'm going
to LA next week and I really could have called
somebody in weirdo. You just set me up. Really is
really bad in LA, it's disrespectful. In New York, it's
really not that weird. Why are you being a weirdo?
We said up all the time, You've been a fucking weirdo.
(30:17):
You don't like it, He's like, why y'all say that?
Learn some new ship every day? All right? Last one?
Your girl knows all the lyrics to your ops songs.
You're out of here, buco Does that mean you're checking it?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Checking it.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Out the door?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Out the door?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
I got one more, Let's do two more. Here's another one.
You're at the restaurant and you tell your friends that
you offer to pay the bill for dinner. Yeah, homie
orders the most expensive thing on the menu.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Sounds like a typical day after week, sounds like a Wednesday.
I always ask questions about it. Oh, I wonder what
this one? This is something?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Bob?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Sure your ex? I have two more? Your ex starts
dating somebody who copied your whole style, the clothes, the tattoos.
Do you check that or you let that start?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I acknowledge it?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Is that a Thursday that happenedday Sunday? What's new? Yeah,
that's what it is. Okay, somebody I hate to end
on this h enjoy of not enjoy love by the way,
(32:06):
you got bars, because that's a whole other album title.
Enjoy Love a fucking great album title, by the way, Yeah,
or a song if you didn't finish the album, you
got a space for a joint. Enjoy love. You know
it's pretty good like that. There's some writer ship you
just had it and you just throw them out there
(32:27):
like that. Okay, last one you pull up, You pull
up to a function and someone immediately asks, when are
you gonna put me on? M M.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
We live in LA. A lot of things.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
What do you what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
In LA?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I feel like I need an LA tutorial right now.
Put me on with music, yeah, put me in a game.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
So I'd be like, let me hear your music.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
You do that?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, right on the spot. Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
If I know his name, I would say his name.
But we were in second street. Broh came up to me.
He was like, I got something for you to hear.
I just walk up to me, said like that and
then pulled out a speaker. I'm like okay, and he
played it like hed you not. It was some of
the best music I heard in a long time. He
was a singer. I gotta get in touch with bro brother.
(33:22):
If you if you hear this interview, reach out to
me or the hummies in my bio and uh, I
gotta type people. Brother.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
You didn't get his number at the moment.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
My boy did. My boy did actually Scott his number
when I'll get back to LA. So you so you
found somebody in the middle of that surprisingly good.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Wow, amazing story. We love a good story. Good for him.
I hope that works out. You said something before before
we wrap up. You said that you don't you stop
smoke used to smoke weed every day and you stop
every day? How come you stop?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Have really bad anxiety from the weed? Uh no, just
from life.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Some people say weed helps the anxiety.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I'll be through a live m.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
So you need to let it go. Was it easy
the stop smoking?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah for sure?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah, good for you. Do you feel better? Do you
feel different? Does it help?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Do you feel uh a little bit more introverted?
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I used to be more, definitely because the weed probably
helps with that, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I don't. I don't ever go out to no clubs
or nothing in that seconds out here.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah. How you managing the anxiety with all this new
attention on you?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
That's a little hard shut out thought. I got my
my good like my good peoples around you know, you
got a good squad, right, my emotional support team.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, that's probably why you make this good baby music.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, most definitely right, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, because like the songs you were just playing me
and Robert like how you have to has to put
you in a good space.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Like you know what I'm saying. All the projects were
probably like its feel anger fuel, you know what I mean?
Mm hmm, good place right now?
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Oh I love that for you. Well, I'm glad your
good place got you to this, to this wind that
you got to win this good place. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Damn. We gotta keep them going, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
artists watching them, don't get comfortable. Soon as y'all get comfortable,
you know what I'm saying, God will take them blessings
that's quat because you give them to you. So see
your toes and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Where we see you, Where we see you in five years.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Five years from now, Fenny Kravitz, now be the next
leather jeans on stage somewhere in the UK for like
ten thousand people in front of me.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Mm hmm. Manifest that ship right.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
There, gentry, gent you right there on the PJ. There
it is. I love it.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Same congratulations man, good to meet you today, Phoenix Flex
and every bodies spoun on fast Way Weather
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