June 22, 2026 • 39 mins
Tom MacCubbin and producer Lizzie Steele explore the joys and challenges of summer gardening, including growing vegetables and flowers and the inevitable pests that come. Tom also shares his Top Five shrubs that avoided winter damage last year and answers listener gardening questions.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
And good morning to you from the summit Responsible Solutions
Studios and welcome the Better Lawns and Gardens. I'm Tom
a coven Extension Agent Emericus with University of Florida and
host Emeritus.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
A Better Lawns and Gardens.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm certainly happy to have you today. We'll be getting
your calls later in the program, and of course you
can text us at anytime at two three six eight.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Oh, good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Lizzie, Good morning. How are you well? We're up and running, yeah,
I know, right here we are.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, So how's everything at your house? Are you able
to grow anything? At this time of year? Is just
so hot, there is melting away.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
It's crazy the amount of hot peppers that I have growing.
Really Yes, I've got Habanaro's, I've got cayamne, and I've
got hallopenos, just going.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I love the heat. I'm going.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Okay, what do you do with them?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I give them to everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Okay, do turkeys eat them?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I don't know, I didn't think about that.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, maybe some hot turkey, but spices is already there.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I know.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
People like give their chickens like the flakes, pepper flakes
and stuff, and it's supposed to help either with their digestive.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm not chicken person, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Do you know this little weed called ox alice cuban
purple ox alice. It grows as a weed, little bulb okay,
And my neighbor collects that and gives it to her
son's chickens, and she said, they love it. It's amazing.
And we were at a restaurant and my son if
somebody who was finished up a salad, my son said,
(01:44):
I'll take that, so he took it and he gave
it to the chickens, and the chickens loved it. I
guess they like greens. Maybe they're better than we are.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Well, it's funny because what I found is that our
turkeys absolutely love black eyed Susans. So I actually, I'll
let them do their there's semi free range.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
So yeah, I had to.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
When my black eyed Susans started coming back this year,
I had to keep them away from them because they
I turned my back, got distracted, did something else in
the yard, came back and they had cleared all my
black eyed Susans.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
So yeah, that's kind.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Of like the monarch butterflies. The Larva stage clears out
all the host plants for the Larva stage. It's got
interesting anyway. Teresa's off today, and I hope you just.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Have a good time. So you have me and Lizzie.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
You were so lucky.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, it's gonna be a good program today. We'll have
all different kinds of things and people. Listeners can do
their part two call in later or you can Texas
at any time.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Two three six eight. Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I thought i'd start off with the weather because we
got a note from Beverly earlier. I guess about midweek
about Tallahassee gonna be washed away or yes.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Watching, yes, you know you guys better buckle downs. All
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
As I went up and looked at it, it looks
like maybe they're getting seven inches some flooding twelve inches
maximum in some areas. But as I looked at the radar,
it looks like it's moving out or been moving out.
So you know, they got the rain. It got more
rain than they need, and we have less rain than
I need. I don't know how it's been at your house.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Half a dozen one the other. We haven't had a
few days where we I thought we were going to
get rain. The radar said we were going to get Oh,
I got the warning and absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I had two inches over about the last four days.
And so here's a situation at my place. My neighbor
is out of town, and so I take care of
their property as far as watering and carried their plants,
and so it seems like every time they leave to
go out of town it doesn't rain. So here I
am out there with my woes watering their plants. A
(03:53):
fair amount of container plants, and container plants even dry
out on a rainy day. So you got to go
through and take care.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
So job security for you, I know.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I tell him, I.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Say, you know, every time you go out of town,
So I don't know what's going to happen. Anyway, Hey,
we've got a lot of things coming up. A first
day of summer on Sunday, and I think you have
an idea that the legislative body should legislate that summer
starts in May and not in June.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yes, I'm actually I'm part of Good Morning Orlando. So
I'm going to talk with our host Simon Conway of
seeing who he can reach out to, maybe even to
Stantus himself and see what we can do because.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I am sorry.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I be in the stay of Florida. May first and
sometimes in mid April. It's summertime, summertime some some some summertime.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And anyway, also on Sunday, Big Day, Father's Day.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, it's kind of.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Happy Father's Day to you, and happy Father's Day to
all those listening.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
To your husband Shrek. Yeah, very good.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I got my Father's Day gift early. My kids got
together and said, Dad, your phone is antiquated, so we're
going to get you an early Father's Day gift. They
gave me a new phone.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
So they hate you.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
They did because I don't know about you, but have
given me. I am literally fixing to go back to
a flip phone. It's not that they can't handle it,
but I really can't stand these new phones.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Have so many things on them. You know, my phone
was probably seven years old. I would get somewhere around
there and I gotten used to it. And now I've
got to get used to all these new button buttons.
But there's some neat things about it, I have to admit.
So anyway, I'm getting used to it. And that's my
Father's Day gift. And I appreciated very much. Thank you kids.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I was very sweet of them.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Actually that was.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yes, okay, I've got a list here I want to do,
and it's the best cities for urban gardening. Just a
little or old. It came out a couple of months ago.
I guess it's from a group called lawn Starter and
their lawn care services was what they have. And so
they said that the number one spot has changed. I
(05:59):
can't believe this. They said last year New York City
was number one. What I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Yeah, oh well you know what though, I mean you
got to think about it. They have no place to
grow anything, so that would actually make sense that they've
perfected it.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Well, they've rank them as far as interest in gardening,
they rank them as far as available garden centers and
things like that. Atlanta took over number one, Florida has one, two, three, four,
five out of the top ten, and Miami's number two.
And then we have Jacksonville five, Orlandos six, Fort Myers eight,
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and Tampa number nine.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
So kind of interesting. Tell you what, we're gonna be back,
don't go away, and we'll be here.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So you can just go ahead and give us a
call if you want from the Summer Responsible Solution Studios.
It's a Saturday morning. You're listening to Better Lines of Gardens.
I'm Tom of Coven and this iss Farda's Talk.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And Entertainment Network. Good morning to you again. Welcome back
to Better Lawns and Gardens. Tom I Coven.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Here, we were finishing up with the best cities for
urban gardening.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Here's what they used to rank them.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Access to community gardens, average yard size, growing season, which
means such as number growing days, precipitations, number of garden
centers and other suppli stores. How the local area ranks
in garden clubs, laws and internet searches. He took into
account the right to garden and Florida, I guess Illinois
(07:41):
Maine had that law right to garden, like you can
put a garden, I guess in your front yard in Orlando.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, so it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
But anyway, again, Atlanta's number one, then number two is Miami,
which surprised me a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I guess Houston was number three.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Saint Louis, missouri'snumber for Jacksonville, Florida made number five, Orlando
made number six, Cincinnati made number seven. Fort Myers number
eight and number nine Tampa and ten was Austin, Texas.
So there you go as far as the best cities
the garden see if you're there, they actually ranked one
(08:19):
hundred of them. And I'll have to go through and
find maybe a couple more in Florida, like Lake lind
was thirty five, Melbourne number twenty six, and we'll look
at some of the others just a little bit there. Anyway,
I you know, I want next hour. Let's put it
this way. Next hour, Lance Walheim, author of Citrus, a
Gardener's and fruit Lover's Guide, will be with us and
(08:40):
talking about his new book. Actually it's a revised it's
a great book. It's probably one of the best books
on citrus for homeowners that I know of, and maybe
commercial also. But I wanted a preview to get Florida
updale on greening diseases of citrus. So I contacted Matt Smith,
fruit specialist with the Universe of Florida Lake County. I
(09:01):
also talked with Dana Venrick, a quality green specialist about
the availability of resistant trees. And I just made a
few notes here from Matt Smith, and I wanted to
know what the effects of cold was on the citrus
that we already have, and the cold as of February,
we got a lot less damage than we thought, he said,
(09:23):
or what we expected. Burned leaves, fruit damage, probably some
just general twig die back, and that was the general
problem that they had, and he felt, I think at
that time that the trees are going to recover, at
least most of them. My next question to him was
did the freeze have an effect on the Asian scyllid?
You know, that's the little insect that goes around and
(09:45):
carries the bacteria that effects the trees and causes greening.
And he said he expected it to reduce the population
of the insect for a short period of time. Now,
I have to tell you my neighborhood, we have a
few citrus trees, not many left anymore, but I am
not seeing the sill it in a good while, so
it's a possibility the populations are pretty well reduced. And
(10:07):
I have a list of green resistant trees, and if
I asked him for there's any particular that he would recommend.
So I've got his list here and number one on
the top of it there was a sugar bell and
he said it ripens in late November and December and
is very tasty. Now here's the thing. When we say resistant,
(10:29):
it doesn't mean that they're totally resistant. It means they're
tolerant more than anything else. So we have to be
careful when we talk about it. But it means that
they're just more tolerant to the disease. But if we
take good care of them, it's gonna be okay, he said.
All the ones that ARELLL four they're developed by a
University of Florida, like the Sweet Orange, which is a
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red color, super sweet, he said. And all the OL
eight and twenties are also good lines called the Donaldson.
It was found at the USDA farm as a thirty
year old tree and they're propagating that one.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
There.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
There's a bunch of others. You can find out all
of them, like a tango mandarin Marathon is one that
is fairly popular that holds its quality fruit on the
tree for a long time. And there's a good lemon
also so and there's one called Gator Bytes, a small
but a good mandarin. So there are a number of them.
(11:31):
If you want to find out more of the tree list.
What I did, I just went up on the line
and checked out the citrus greening tolerant citrus varieties, and
there's a whole list them, plus some of the new
releases from the university. Now here's the other thing. Where
are you going to find them? You know you want
the trees? Can you just go down to your normal
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garden center. So I talked with Dana Vendrick about that,
and I talked to him yesterday and Dana said they
are so out right now and he expects more trees
in about a month. So many of the nurseries may
have the same problem. The university has one nursery. It's
not the university, it's the master Gardeners in Hernando County
(12:13):
and I went up on their website, but I didn't
get any information on what's available at this time. So
if you just go ahead and look for citrus varieties resistance,
nurseries greening resistance, then you're gonna get a lot of
the information that you need. So that should be a
good one for you anyway. So greening looks like it's
(12:34):
going to be there. Looks like we have the resistant
varieties that you can plant, you can get them. That
means also that you're going to have to give them
good care. This is me managing the scyllids with insecticide.
Spraise at each time when you get a you know,
flush of new growth, keep them minder nutrients on the trees,
keep them fertilized well.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And we can raise citrus. Now.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Matt also told me that, you know, we can still
raise the citrus, so we don't. You doesn't want to
see us stop raising the citrus, and well it might
be something that you'll want to try anyway. Okay, how's
the garden doing. That's my next little thought here, how's
my garden doing? It's done except for peppers, and as
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Lizzie mentioned, she has tons of peppers also hot peppers.
I don't raise the hot peppers. I raised the bell
peppers and so they're still producing. Just harvested my last tomatoes.
They're done. I'm getting all the old crops out at
this particular time because they'll just harbor diseases and I
need to get them out so that we'll be having
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future plantings. And you know, the next planting time is
the middle of August. But on my list here of
things to do the next time, the sew seeds for
tomatoes peppers and egg plant is the middle of July,
so it's not very far away. No, it isn't July fourth,
It is not that far away. Also, I'll be tilling
the ground getting ready to plant the seas as I
(14:04):
said of the tomatoes, peppers, and egg plants in mid July,
to have transplants for August. The best tomatoes this year
in my garden were Juliette Sweetheart and Parks whopper. Okay,
and I had one called Chef de Light and it
was good too. But the I know, we're big eaters
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of the little grape tomatoes and little cherry tomatoes.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
I grew some of what they call the little pear
to like they're cherry tomatoes, but they're they're yellow and
they're called p Yeah, pear pear tomatoes.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Those are really good. Yeah, very interesting looking to.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Have good flavor. Okay, well let's go enter yellow.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yes, they look like pears.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I have one called sunny Gold one time and it
was good too. Yes, I haven't grown those in a while.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Some of the problems I have, and I really have
to keep evaluating them, is what kind of diseases they
get where they get nematodes on the roots and how
they crack some of them. Since we get the rains
coming in, they just really crack open. So yeah, it's
gonna be a problem.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
They know these pair ones.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
This vine has exploded the point where I had to
put a steel rod through the center of it of
my tomato cage because it went nuts and was just
fell over and was like just I mean, it was
pulling the vine, the tomato cage out of the ground.
So I'd actually take steel rod and run it through
the center of it. It's it's I've never I've never
(15:31):
had this experience. And I'm not a tomato professional by
all means or a grower professional. However, I have never
seen this in my life.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
So some of the tomatoes really take off, I mean
the indeterminate types, and I have some that will grow
eight feet tall, and so I have to stake those.
I have no if my tomato cages are averaging about
five feet and I still have to steak them otherwise
the window blow them. You get so many vines and everything, right,
So it's this type of problem. Okay, here's the list
(15:59):
of what I'm doing. That's the garden, getting the garden revamped,
getting it ready to go be planting in mid August,
so you get all the weedy type things out because
they harbor insects and disease. Also, I just want clear
planting area and I want it that way for a
little bit of time. So here's what I'm doing in
the garden repotting. Lots of plants are root bound in containers,
(16:21):
so I need to go ahead and give them new containers.
Is what I'm doing, and I'm behind. I'm just right
behind that, getting ready to start seeds. Also, some of
the flowers, barrygolds and zenyas, had beautiful zenyas this year,
really attractive. And the one that I had that was
(16:42):
the best was from Parks Parks Picks. You can just
go out and get the old California giants and they
do okay. It's a cheap seed. When you start getting
varietal names and see gets more expensive. But the merrigolds
are doing well. They'll be finishing up here pretty soon,
and I just need to I had some new ones,
and the zinnas are finishing up at harvested. I think
(17:04):
what's going to be just about my last zinja's. Now
here's something kind of neat that I did. I obtained
a ball of the Midnight Oil kalladium. If you're into
horticulture and you follow things along, you'll know that there
was a new kalladium this year called Midnight Oil, and
it was developed by doctor Hartman of Classic Kalladiums in
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Lake Placi Placid, Florida. And when I was down there
during what August last year.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
We talked about it.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
He talked about it, but the balls weren't available and
it was going to come out through proven winters. Although
I never saw it on the market, it may have
been out there possibly.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I got my ball.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I went up on Lime and got my ball out
of Georgia, and so I started. It took a long
time to come up, but it's up now and it's
a beautiful little plant. Hadn't grown very much a couple
of leaves. I'm looking for much more out of it,
but it is very dark and it does have an old,
old oil look to it, kind of purplish in color.
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And so it's called Midnight Oil, and I'll keep you
updated on it as I can, but it's a new
one for me. I obtained some new achimenes. If you
know what achimenies are, Africa Volet relatives little pink blue
multicolor flowers, and I was down to the pinks. That's
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all I had left. It did have some reds left also,
but they are not a good red. So I bought
some new ones of those. Bought a blue one and
I bought one that are mixed colors, so they're not
in bloom yet, but they're coming up and they're kind
of neat.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
The underneath thing that I.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Did in the landscape, with the help of my sun
in law, I created an armor arbor to reduce sunlight
and grow plants like things that I hang down full
each plants, some orchids that are in the shade of
a tree to start off with. And it's just a
neat thing that I can hang plants under. And as
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the plants developed and look good, then I can move
them out into the landscape.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Oh that is actually a genius idea.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Have my orchids there. It's just an arbor. It's you know,
it's not anything. It's not bad looking, but anyway, it's
not what you call beautiful eater. And I can have
the plants there and it's very neat. Tell you what
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I love that one.
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You know, it's funny because then I didn't realize the
amount of what you'd call the malpractice for plant and
the landscape until I started getting Teresa's newsletter.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
And then now I drive around go now I'm judging.
I'm like, you're in a critic now exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, and you got a portion there too, because you
always have a portion with your turkeys or something. Shenanigans
what you call it. Yeah, that's my grandmother used to
call some of those things too. Anyway, I've got one
another thing. We'll get to your calls here in just
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one triple eight forty five launch or four five five,
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two nine six seven.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
The Asian citrus sillid. Remember I was talking about greening
insect moves it around the University reported that there's some
good news, and the good news is there's some insects
out there eating the Asian sillid eggs. Okay, yeah, so
we got the minute pirate bug. If you want to
see some of these, just go them, do a Google
(21:38):
search on them. Minute pirate bug, green lace wing larva
that looks like ladybug larva, and the ladybug a lady
beetle named mealy bug destroyer, and that those are three,
So you can go up and look at a mealy
bug destroyer, green lace wing larvae, and minute pirate bug.
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Those are all that are out there feeding on the egg.
So there may be some help. You may not have
to do as much spray if you find those in
your landscape, which would be kind of nice.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Let's go to Bill A. Norman Beach. What do you say, Bill?
Good morning to you?
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Good morning Tom. Hey, I've got a problem winged that
I tried to send a picture to Lizy, but I
guess it didn't go through. It's almost succulent like it's
very low to the ground. It becomes vining. It's just
green leaves that you might get a flower if you
let it grow long enough.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
And I what color? What color is the flower?
Speaker 5 (22:39):
It's since I seen it?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Is it blueish?
Speaker 5 (22:45):
It could be it could be.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, it sounds like it might. It might be dayflower.
And that is a fairly common weed. It fits your
description pretty much. Uh, the vines across the surface of
the soil and it just pops up amongst the augustine
and other grasses. But you know, it doesn't make a
difference really because all those weeds.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
We only have a.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Limited number of weed control products, and you're gonna need
it's a broad leaf weed, so you're gonna need a
broad leaf weed control product. The best one I find
out there right now is one call round Up for
Southern lawns. Now you know round Up as a general
weed killer, but they also have one that you can
(23:31):
use to control weeds and lawns, and it's called round
Up for Southern lawns, and I find that that does
very good. Now when you get into a fertilizer season,
Bioadvanced has a weed and feed that works out very well.
So you have a couple of products. And now some
other liquids may work fine also, but just make sure
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it says your lawn type on it. Make sure it
says for broad leaf weeds. But that one round Up
product is one that has some of the ingredients and
commercial people use also.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Yeah, I've been my main problem because it's in a
bed and it's intermingled. It comes up you know, in
different plants.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yea, and he'll do that.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I have used the trou I mean, I dug it up.
I've been very tedious at getting these single leaves, getting
the roots and all that, and they just keep coming up.
And this is for a couple of years now.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yep, yep, it's it's a very uh persistent, you might say. So, yeah,
that's what I have to do too. Now, if it's
in a spot where you can spot kill it. Then
you do have some of these uh uh spot control
we control products out there, but if it's intermingled, you
don't have any choice but to pull it out, right right, Okay,
(24:50):
that probably wasn't the advice. Probably wasn't the advice you wanted.
But that's about all it's out there right now, especially
when it's intermingled. Now, if it was a grassy weed
intermingled with shrubs and flowers and stuff, I might be
able to give you something to take that out. There's
products for that over the top. But when it comes
to broad leaf, we're in there pulling them out or
spot treating the one or the other.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Okay, Bill, all right, thank you Tom.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, thanks Chicol, appreciate it. Let's go to Melbourne, Florida.
What do you say and talk with Alice. Alice, good
morning to.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
You, Hi there.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
It's so great to hear your voice again, and we
miss you.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Well. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I'll be here periodically. I'll be back and I think July. Also,
you know, Teresa's given me some time.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
To take over.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
You know, we appreciate who's taking your place too.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Oh, Teresa's a great person. Well, Teresa and I have
worked together for years and years and years, and she
couldn't be a better person to take this position.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Really really cares well. How often the cut grass in Melbourne,
because you know, I've been cutting it myself for years
because I didn't want the weed cheese to come up
that the weeds seem to come in here and there
in the within the grass. And I had bermuda all originally,
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but that's kind of worked itself out and now I've
got a combination of things.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
But I just wondered.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
If the lawn cutters that work on my neighbors whiles
they come a couple of times a week, it seems,
and they're just running around with those lawnmowers and scattering
the weeds seeds all over the place.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
But I just wondered what you do about.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
The weeds, I mean, and also how often is a
good time to cut grass?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Well?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I cut mine once a week, and out of having
to do it, I believe during the summer time, as possible,
you may need to cut it twice a week, but
normally once a week. As far as weeds in a lawn,
just mowing it once a week should be fine. You're
not gonna move that many seeds around. I wouldn't worry
about that because you're cutting them before they're mature. But
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if you need a weed control product, summer is not
the best time to put it down, I'll be honest.
Too hot you end up damaging your lawn also. Or
you can do spot weed control. But if you need
we control, we do it in the spring or to fall,
so that may help you out a little bit. Alice,
hope it does. Alix, thanks for the call, appreciate it.
We're up against the break as you can tell by
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Speaker 2 (28:37):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Alice had a little follow up question we ran out
of time there about trimming her hibiscus. Yes, and I
guess it was getting kind of dense. She lives in Melbourne,
so I probably didn't have as much damage. And what
she can do is she can thin it out or
she can cut it back. And the general rule on
that is you cut back one third of stems and
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you let the other third come up in flower and
you do that as as needed.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
But you can thin it out if she wants to
and trim it back.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Now, where would you so?
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Because I have a lot of high biscus by I
went there and replanted all mine after the freeze took
ninety percent of them out. But where would you trim inside? Outside?
Every other I.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Just opened it up and trim out, Yeah, every other
stem and every learn long old stems, ones that may
have stopped flowering, maybe ones that are gotting some damage
to them or something like that, and just kind of.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Open it up a little bit. Don't have to do
a whole lot.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
High biscus is kind of a twiggy plant anyway, right.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
And also what I run into I ran into in
the past, I'm staying ahead of the game is the
little white bugs that end up on them.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
There's like they're not flies, but they look like almost bugs.
Probably go yes, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Mealy bugs.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
You need to get those out of control, and you
can use one of the general insecticides Ema soap, Insecticotle
soap will.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Work on them, okay, but you to hit them, yes now.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
And then the other option would be to use one
of the systemic insecticides that you applied to the ground.
And BioAdvance has one that you can just have it
in several forms granular liquid and you can apply to
the ground as they tell you it's taken up and
then it controls the mealy bugs.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Okay, well, thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Okay, I have my top five here, top five shrubs
that survived the cold. You know, I have a whole
bunch of things here about freeze recovery, and I may
get to them, I may not. But the top five
shrubs that survived the cold, and number one at the
top here is Indian hawthorn. I really like Indian hawthorne.
I'm in a I'm consulting in a community where we're
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having to replace some shrubs. But the Indian hawthorns survived well.
The next one definite survivor, no problem at all, dwarf,
theo pond holly. And that one there is a good
one for the landscapes. It's the workhorse, durable. You can
round it up, you can, you know, pun it in
the meat balls if you want to. But it's a
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good one. We can keep, make a little hedge out
of it. The other one that's in my yard that
I went down to twenty four degrees and this one
here had no damage. The bush daisy, and it's out
and it's flowering, it's yellow, it's it's beautiful. So it
made it through that cold. A little bit of burn back,
but just really tough. The other another one, suspense them viburnum.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
No problem.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
It's a lower growing viburnum only gets about four or
five feet tall, and that one there has done well.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Number five, even.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Though I'm not always happy with them, but azalea's azaleas
seem to flower better this year than they having previous years.
And that's what happens after cold. They really it seems
to mature to buds and get them developing.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Mine work gorgeous, and I don't have that many. I'll
have a couple. And I was like, oh, okay, so
there we are. We're looking pretty now.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I know they need good care, and many of us
don't give them the care they need the water and
the fertilizer, but you know it's a durable shrub. An
extra one here, I threw it an extra one. It
should be six, I guess by like five. It's the
dwarf Walter Viburnum, and they flowered good this year. You
have the very tall Walter viburnams, which the Navy plants,
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and they had the dwarf one. And the dwarfs have
looked good too, and they flowered. They were out flowering
very early. Now let me give you another shrub tree
form that I think the cold really helped, and that
is the crape myrtles. They they are beautiful and it's
one community where I do consultant works. That's the best
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that I've seen with the crape myrtles, the pinks, the
reddish colored ones, the whites. They're just producing great displays.
And I think it's all because they got the cold.
You know, they're more northern plants. They're not tropicals. We
do have a tropical crape myrtle also Queen crape myrtle,
but the typical ones I've done very well and they're
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just looking beautiful at this time. Okay, let me talk
a little bit about the freeze. Mentioned that I wanted
to mention that one for you. There's a number of
plants that are having a tough time with the freeze,
and one of them right now is the Norfolk colin pine.
As you drive along, do you notice the Norfolk colin
pines turning brown? They look like Christmas trees. They aren't
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really pine trees. They're distant relatives at the best. But
there's all different degrees of damage to the Norfolk colin pines.
Some of them are totally brown, some of them are
green on one side, brown on the other side. Some
of them are brown at the top, green at the bottom.
So what's going to happen to them? I think only
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time is going to tell. But I think many of
them are going to recover and do fine. But going
up the trunk, you'll notice that probably is green at
the bottom. Some of them are still green at the top.
So what do you do? I you know, people want
to know, do I cut them out? Do I take
them out? Or they get done? I would wait. I'd
wait to at least the end of the summer and
see what happens. Now here's the problem. When the Norfolk
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colin pines come back, they're probably not going to look
like the plants that you remember the little Christmas tree forms.
Most of the norfolklin pines in central Florida and probably
a little bit further south were planted at Christmas time.
We bought them as these neat little Christmas trees. They
probably came with decorations on them, and we put them out.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
In the landscape.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Some of them now are forty feet tall or more.
And those are the ones that are damaged. I mean,
you just drive through the neighborhoods, you'll see the brown
trees sticking up look like Christmas trees. They're not for
Colin pines. So the big question is are they going
to survive. I think most of them are going to survive,
but not be the tree that you really remember. Okay,
give them time. Avocados, mangoes, and karen Bola's frozen back.
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All of them are probably going to come back from
the base. The problem is with the avocados and mangoes,
you've probably lost the grafted variety, the variety they had,
so you just have wait and see what you get.
If it's coming from above the graph, that's good, it's
going to be the one you remember. If it's below
the graph, it's going to be a.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Tree that.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Probably not a very good type. Like the mangoes would
probably be something like a turpentine mango. Avocados would be
just a regular avocado. But you know, you may enjoy
them still. I don't think the mangoes you're going to
enjoy if they taste like turpentine.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I don't know Karen Bola's.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I had a person come up in church and said,
you know what, my Karen Bola is coming back, and
I had mentioned that it probably would. It's going to
come back as multiple stems and it will be the
same Karen.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Bola that you remember. So it's okay.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Mother nature is kind of amazing. As I've been going
through this cold period. It's been four months now since
we had the cold. And the things that are coming
back are Croatons in many areas are coming back. The
Dwarf Scheffalaias like Trinette are coming back and not doing
real bad. They're coming back, ok, Xoras, Exoras. I had
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given up on exors pretty much, but you know, the
exorers are coming up from below the ground. It's amazing
this one community that I have. They're coming up all
over the place. Yeah, there are a few dead ones,
that's for sure. But here's the question you have to
ask yourself. Do you have time to wait? Do you
want to wait for those plans to recover? Yeah, and
so if you don't, then you replant them and on
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the market. Right now, there seems to need plenty of
shrubs out there, plenty of replacements. I was looking at
some of the other day. Croton's look good. Dwarf Scheffaliras
look good. I haven't checked for the exoras, but they're back.
The nurseries have done a great job of getting He's
back on the market, and I.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Usually around AI around August, I should say I start
kind of like, you know, pushing out the idea of
getting your frost blankets. If we didn't just learn from
what we just went through just right now this week,
if you got the money, go on Amazon or wherever
and go ahead and purchase your frost blankets for upcoming
because if you did like I did, I just had
to replace a bunch of items and plants and stuff
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that I really really don't want to lose. So and
also we have a text Tom from like no No
wants to know Lizzie, why do you dislike backyard chickens. Yes,
they can be no noisy, but provide amusement, eggs, fertilizer,
and worstream meat. Tom, one hundred percent. I am not
anti backyard chickens. I highly encourage everybody to have them.
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I just personally I had. When I was younger, I
had chickens, and I weighed out the options of having turkeys,
and I like raising turkeys a lot better.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
So yeah, it's yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I'll tell you you know, when I was a kid,
we had chickens, and the only place I want to
see chickens.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Now is on my plate that you didn't have to
do some form.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Eggs, chicken legs. I love chicken legs, things of that nature.
But I cleaned out so many chicken coops. Evidently this
gentleman here has not cleaned out the chicken coofs like
I had. And yeah, you do get the fertilizer from
them and everything like that, but right now, chickens on my.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Plate, that's where I'd like to see them.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Was a couple of people trying to send pictures here.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
You cannot get pictures to text. You have to email them.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Probably it'd be easier to email them to Teresa. And
that's Teresa without an h Teresa dot Watt Kim's at
live dot com. Teresa dot walk Ins at live dot com.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, I think this person did send that there, so
we're good there. Here's one here from Jay Melbourne. Do
en car zs do well all day sun on the
southern and warm side of the house. They would rather
have a filter son, but yes, they can survive in
the in full sun if you take good care of them.
But filter son for zies I think is best. So
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If it's Saturday morning, guess what we're coming to you
with better lawns and gardens. And this is Florida's Talk
and Entertainment Network
And good morning to you from the summit Responsible Solutions
Studios and welcome the Better Lawns and Gardens. I'm Tom
a coven Extension Agent Emericus with University of Florida and
host Emeritus.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
A Better Lawns and Gardens.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm certainly happy to have you today. We'll be getting
your calls later in the program, and of course you
can text us at anytime at two three six eight.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Oh, good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Lizzie, Good morning. How are you well? We're up and running, yeah,
I know, right here we are.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, So how's everything at your house? Are you able
to grow anything? At this time of year? Is just
so hot, there is melting away.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
It's crazy the amount of hot peppers that I have growing.
Really Yes, I've got Habanaro's, I've got cayamne, and I've
got hallopenos, just going.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I love the heat. I'm going.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Okay, what do you do with them?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I give them to everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Okay, do turkeys eat them?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I don't know, I didn't think about that.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, maybe some hot turkey, but spices is already there.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I know.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
People like give their chickens like the flakes, pepper flakes
and stuff, and it's supposed to help either with their digestive.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm not chicken person, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Do you know this little weed called ox alice cuban
purple ox alice. It grows as a weed, little bulb okay,
And my neighbor collects that and gives it to her
son's chickens, and she said, they love it. It's amazing.
And we were at a restaurant and my son if
somebody who was finished up a salad, my son said,
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I'll take that, so he took it and he gave
it to the chickens, and the chickens loved it. I
guess they like greens. Maybe they're better than we are.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Well, it's funny because what I found is that our
turkeys absolutely love black eyed Susans. So I actually, I'll
let them do their there's semi free range.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
So yeah, I had to.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
When my black eyed Susans started coming back this year,
I had to keep them away from them because they
I turned my back, got distracted, did something else in
the yard, came back and they had cleared all my
black eyed Susans.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
So yeah, that's kind.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Of like the monarch butterflies. The Larva stage clears out
all the host plants for the Larva stage. It's got
interesting anyway. Teresa's off today, and I hope you just.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Have a good time. So you have me and Lizzie.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
You were so lucky.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, it's gonna be a good program today. We'll have
all different kinds of things and people. Listeners can do
their part two call in later or you can Texas
at any time.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Two three six eight. Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I thought i'd start off with the weather because we
got a note from Beverly earlier. I guess about midweek
about Tallahassee gonna be washed away or yes.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Watching, yes, you know you guys better buckle downs. All
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
As I went up and looked at it, it looks
like maybe they're getting seven inches some flooding twelve inches
maximum in some areas. But as I looked at the radar,
it looks like it's moving out or been moving out.
So you know, they got the rain. It got more
rain than they need, and we have less rain than
I need. I don't know how it's been at your house.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Half a dozen one the other. We haven't had a
few days where we I thought we were going to
get rain. The radar said we were going to get Oh,
I got the warning and absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I had two inches over about the last four days.
And so here's a situation at my place. My neighbor
is out of town, and so I take care of
their property as far as watering and carried their plants,
and so it seems like every time they leave to
go out of town it doesn't rain. So here I
am out there with my woes watering their plants. A
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fair amount of container plants, and container plants even dry
out on a rainy day. So you got to go
through and take care.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
So job security for you, I know.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I tell him, I.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Say, you know, every time you go out of town,
So I don't know what's going to happen. Anyway, Hey,
we've got a lot of things coming up. A first
day of summer on Sunday, and I think you have
an idea that the legislative body should legislate that summer
starts in May and not in June.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yes, I'm actually I'm part of Good Morning Orlando. So
I'm going to talk with our host Simon Conway of
seeing who he can reach out to, maybe even to
Stantus himself and see what we can do because.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I am sorry.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I be in the stay of Florida. May first and
sometimes in mid April. It's summertime, summertime some some some summertime.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And anyway, also on Sunday, Big Day, Father's Day.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, it's kind of.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Happy Father's Day to you, and happy Father's Day to
all those listening.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
To your husband Shrek. Yeah, very good.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I got my Father's Day gift early. My kids got
together and said, Dad, your phone is antiquated, so we're
going to get you an early Father's Day gift. They
gave me a new phone.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
So they hate you.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
They did because I don't know about you, but have
given me. I am literally fixing to go back to
a flip phone. It's not that they can't handle it,
but I really can't stand these new phones.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Have so many things on them. You know, my phone
was probably seven years old. I would get somewhere around
there and I gotten used to it. And now I've
got to get used to all these new button buttons.
But there's some neat things about it, I have to admit.
So anyway, I'm getting used to it. And that's my
Father's Day gift. And I appreciated very much. Thank you kids.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I was very sweet of them.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Actually that was.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yes, okay, I've got a list here I want to do,
and it's the best cities for urban gardening. Just a
little or old. It came out a couple of months ago.
I guess it's from a group called lawn Starter and
their lawn care services was what they have. And so
they said that the number one spot has changed. I
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can't believe this. They said last year New York City
was number one. What I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Yeah, oh well you know what though, I mean you
got to think about it. They have no place to
grow anything, so that would actually make sense that they've
perfected it.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Well, they've rank them as far as interest in gardening,
they rank them as far as available garden centers and
things like that. Atlanta took over number one, Florida has one, two, three, four,
five out of the top ten, and Miami's number two.
And then we have Jacksonville five, Orlandos six, Fort Myers eight,
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and Tampa number nine.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
So kind of interesting. Tell you what, we're gonna be back,
don't go away, and we'll be here.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So you can just go ahead and give us a
call if you want from the Summer Responsible Solution Studios.
It's a Saturday morning. You're listening to Better Lines of Gardens.
I'm Tom of Coven and this iss Farda's Talk.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And Entertainment Network. Good morning to you again. Welcome back
to Better Lawns and Gardens. Tom I Coven.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Here, we were finishing up with the best cities for
urban gardening.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Here's what they used to rank them.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Access to community gardens, average yard size, growing season, which
means such as number growing days, precipitations, number of garden
centers and other suppli stores. How the local area ranks
in garden clubs, laws and internet searches. He took into
account the right to garden and Florida, I guess Illinois
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Maine had that law right to garden, like you can
put a garden, I guess in your front yard in Orlando.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, so it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
But anyway, again, Atlanta's number one, then number two is Miami,
which surprised me a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I guess Houston was number three.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Saint Louis, missouri'snumber for Jacksonville, Florida made number five, Orlando
made number six, Cincinnati made number seven. Fort Myers number
eight and number nine Tampa and ten was Austin, Texas.
So there you go as far as the best cities
the garden see if you're there, they actually ranked one
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hundred of them. And I'll have to go through and
find maybe a couple more in Florida, like Lake lind
was thirty five, Melbourne number twenty six, and we'll look
at some of the others just a little bit there. Anyway,
I you know, I want next hour. Let's put it
this way. Next hour, Lance Walheim, author of Citrus, a
Gardener's and fruit Lover's Guide, will be with us and
(08:40):
talking about his new book. Actually it's a revised it's
a great book. It's probably one of the best books
on citrus for homeowners that I know of, and maybe
commercial also. But I wanted a preview to get Florida
updale on greening diseases of citrus. So I contacted Matt Smith,
fruit specialist with the Universe of Florida Lake County. I
(09:01):
also talked with Dana Venrick, a quality green specialist about
the availability of resistant trees. And I just made a
few notes here from Matt Smith, and I wanted to
know what the effects of cold was on the citrus
that we already have, and the cold as of February,
we got a lot less damage than we thought, he said,
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or what we expected. Burned leaves, fruit damage, probably some
just general twig die back, and that was the general
problem that they had, and he felt, I think at
that time that the trees are going to recover, at
least most of them. My next question to him was
did the freeze have an effect on the Asian scyllid?
You know, that's the little insect that goes around and
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carries the bacteria that effects the trees and causes greening.
And he said he expected it to reduce the population
of the insect for a short period of time. Now,
I have to tell you my neighborhood, we have a
few citrus trees, not many left anymore, but I am
not seeing the sill it in a good while, so
it's a possibility the populations are pretty well reduced. And
(10:07):
I have a list of green resistant trees, and if
I asked him for there's any particular that he would recommend.
So I've got his list here and number one on
the top of it there was a sugar bell and
he said it ripens in late November and December and
is very tasty. Now here's the thing. When we say resistant,
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it doesn't mean that they're totally resistant. It means they're
tolerant more than anything else. So we have to be
careful when we talk about it. But it means that
they're just more tolerant to the disease. But if we
take good care of them, it's gonna be okay, he said.
All the ones that ARELLL four they're developed by a
University of Florida, like the Sweet Orange, which is a
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red color, super sweet, he said. And all the OL
eight and twenties are also good lines called the Donaldson.
It was found at the USDA farm as a thirty
year old tree and they're propagating that one.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
There.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
There's a bunch of others. You can find out all
of them, like a tango mandarin Marathon is one that
is fairly popular that holds its quality fruit on the
tree for a long time. And there's a good lemon
also so and there's one called Gator Bytes, a small
but a good mandarin. So there are a number of them.
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If you want to find out more of the tree list.
What I did, I just went up on the line
and checked out the citrus greening tolerant citrus varieties, and
there's a whole list them, plus some of the new
releases from the university. Now here's the other thing. Where
are you going to find them? You know you want
the trees? Can you just go down to your normal
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garden center. So I talked with Dana Vendrick about that,
and I talked to him yesterday and Dana said they
are so out right now and he expects more trees
in about a month. So many of the nurseries may
have the same problem. The university has one nursery. It's
not the university, it's the master Gardeners in Hernando County
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and I went up on their website, but I didn't
get any information on what's available at this time. So
if you just go ahead and look for citrus varieties resistance,
nurseries greening resistance, then you're gonna get a lot of
the information that you need. So that should be a
good one for you anyway. So greening looks like it's
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going to be there. Looks like we have the resistant
varieties that you can plant, you can get them. That
means also that you're going to have to give them
good care. This is me managing the scyllids with insecticide.
Spraise at each time when you get a you know,
flush of new growth, keep them minder nutrients on the trees,
keep them fertilized well.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And we can raise citrus. Now.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Matt also told me that, you know, we can still
raise the citrus, so we don't. You doesn't want to
see us stop raising the citrus, and well it might
be something that you'll want to try anyway. Okay, how's
the garden doing. That's my next little thought here, how's
my garden doing? It's done except for peppers, and as
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Lizzie mentioned, she has tons of peppers also hot peppers.
I don't raise the hot peppers. I raised the bell
peppers and so they're still producing. Just harvested my last tomatoes.
They're done. I'm getting all the old crops out at
this particular time because they'll just harbor diseases and I
need to get them out so that we'll be having
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future plantings. And you know, the next planting time is
the middle of August. But on my list here of
things to do the next time, the sew seeds for
tomatoes peppers and egg plant is the middle of July,
so it's not very far away. No, it isn't July fourth,
It is not that far away. Also, I'll be tilling
the ground getting ready to plant the seas as I
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said of the tomatoes, peppers, and egg plants in mid July,
to have transplants for August. The best tomatoes this year
in my garden were Juliette Sweetheart and Parks whopper. Okay,
and I had one called Chef de Light and it
was good too. But the I know, we're big eaters
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of the little grape tomatoes and little cherry tomatoes.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
I grew some of what they call the little pear
to like they're cherry tomatoes, but they're they're yellow and
they're called p Yeah, pear pear tomatoes.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Those are really good. Yeah, very interesting looking to.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Have good flavor. Okay, well let's go enter yellow.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yes, they look like pears.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I have one called sunny Gold one time and it
was good too. Yes, I haven't grown those in a while.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Some of the problems I have, and I really have
to keep evaluating them, is what kind of diseases they
get where they get nematodes on the roots and how
they crack some of them. Since we get the rains
coming in, they just really crack open. So yeah, it's
gonna be a problem.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
They know these pair ones.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
This vine has exploded the point where I had to
put a steel rod through the center of it of
my tomato cage because it went nuts and was just
fell over and was like just I mean, it was
pulling the vine, the tomato cage out of the ground.
So I'd actually take steel rod and run it through
the center of it. It's it's I've never I've never
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had this experience. And I'm not a tomato professional by
all means or a grower professional. However, I have never
seen this in my life.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
So some of the tomatoes really take off, I mean
the indeterminate types, and I have some that will grow
eight feet tall, and so I have to stake those.
I have no if my tomato cages are averaging about
five feet and I still have to steak them otherwise
the window blow them. You get so many vines and everything, right,
So it's this type of problem. Okay, here's the list
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of what I'm doing. That's the garden, getting the garden revamped,
getting it ready to go be planting in mid August,
so you get all the weedy type things out because
they harbor insects and disease. Also, I just want clear
planting area and I want it that way for a
little bit of time. So here's what I'm doing in
the garden repotting. Lots of plants are root bound in containers,
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so I need to go ahead and give them new containers.
Is what I'm doing, and I'm behind. I'm just right
behind that, getting ready to start seeds. Also, some of
the flowers, barrygolds and zenyas, had beautiful zenyas this year,
really attractive. And the one that I had that was
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the best was from Parks Parks Picks. You can just
go out and get the old California giants and they
do okay. It's a cheap seed. When you start getting
varietal names and see gets more expensive. But the merrigolds
are doing well. They'll be finishing up here pretty soon,
and I just need to I had some new ones,
and the zinnas are finishing up at harvested. I think
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what's going to be just about my last zinja's. Now
here's something kind of neat that I did. I obtained
a ball of the Midnight Oil kalladium. If you're into
horticulture and you follow things along, you'll know that there
was a new kalladium this year called Midnight Oil, and
it was developed by doctor Hartman of Classic Kalladiums in
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Lake Placi Placid, Florida. And when I was down there
during what August last year.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
We talked about it.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
He talked about it, but the balls weren't available and
it was going to come out through proven winters. Although
I never saw it on the market, it may have
been out there possibly.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I got my ball.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I went up on Lime and got my ball out
of Georgia, and so I started. It took a long
time to come up, but it's up now and it's
a beautiful little plant. Hadn't grown very much a couple
of leaves. I'm looking for much more out of it,
but it is very dark and it does have an old,
old oil look to it, kind of purplish in color.
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And so it's called Midnight Oil, and I'll keep you
updated on it as I can, but it's a new
one for me. I obtained some new achimenes. If you
know what achimenies are, Africa Volet relatives little pink blue
multicolor flowers, and I was down to the pinks. That's
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all I had left. It did have some reds left also,
but they are not a good red. So I bought
some new ones of those. Bought a blue one and
I bought one that are mixed colors, so they're not
in bloom yet, but they're coming up and they're kind
of neat.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
The underneath thing that I.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Did in the landscape, with the help of my sun
in law, I created an armor arbor to reduce sunlight
and grow plants like things that I hang down full
each plants, some orchids that are in the shade of
a tree to start off with. And it's just a
neat thing that I can hang plants under. And as
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the plants developed and look good, then I can move
them out into the landscape.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Oh that is actually a genius idea.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Have my orchids there. It's just an arbor. It's you know,
it's not anything. It's not bad looking, but anyway, it's
not what you call beautiful eater. And I can have
the plants there and it's very neat. Tell you what
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Speaker 2 (21:18):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
The Asian citrus sillid. Remember I was talking about greening
insect moves it around the University reported that there's some
good news, and the good news is there's some insects
out there eating the Asian sillid eggs. Okay, yeah, so
we got the minute pirate bug. If you want to
see some of these, just go them, do a Google
(21:38):
search on them. Minute pirate bug, green lace wing larva
that looks like ladybug larva, and the ladybug a lady
beetle named mealy bug destroyer, and that those are three,
So you can go up and look at a mealy
bug destroyer, green lace wing larvae, and minute pirate bug.
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Those are all that are out there feeding on the egg.
So there may be some help. You may not have
to do as much spray if you find those in
your landscape, which would be kind of nice.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Let's go to Bill A. Norman Beach. What do you say, Bill?
Good morning to you?
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Good morning Tom. Hey, I've got a problem winged that
I tried to send a picture to Lizy, but I
guess it didn't go through. It's almost succulent like it's
very low to the ground. It becomes vining. It's just
green leaves that you might get a flower if you
let it grow long enough.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
And I what color? What color is the flower?
Speaker 5 (22:39):
It's since I seen it?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Is it blueish?
Speaker 5 (22:45):
It could be it could be.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, it sounds like it might. It might be dayflower.
And that is a fairly common weed. It fits your
description pretty much. Uh, the vines across the surface of
the soil and it just pops up amongst the augustine
and other grasses. But you know, it doesn't make a
difference really because all those weeds.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
We only have a.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Limited number of weed control products, and you're gonna need
it's a broad leaf weed, so you're gonna need a
broad leaf weed control product. The best one I find
out there right now is one call round Up for
Southern lawns. Now you know round Up as a general
weed killer, but they also have one that you can
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use to control weeds and lawns, and it's called round
Up for Southern lawns, and I find that that does
very good. Now when you get into a fertilizer season,
Bioadvanced has a weed and feed that works out very well.
So you have a couple of products. And now some
other liquids may work fine also, but just make sure
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it says your lawn type on it. Make sure it
says for broad leaf weeds. But that one round Up
product is one that has some of the ingredients and
commercial people use also.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Yeah, I've been my main problem because it's in a
bed and it's intermingled. It comes up you know, in
different plants.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yea, and he'll do that.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I have used the trou I mean, I dug it up.
I've been very tedious at getting these single leaves, getting
the roots and all that, and they just keep coming up.
And this is for a couple of years now.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yep, yep, it's it's a very uh persistent, you might say. So, yeah,
that's what I have to do too. Now, if it's
in a spot where you can spot kill it. Then
you do have some of these uh uh spot control
we control products out there, but if it's intermingled, you
don't have any choice but to pull it out, right right, Okay,
(24:50):
that probably wasn't the advice. Probably wasn't the advice you wanted.
But that's about all it's out there right now, especially
when it's intermingled. Now, if it was a grassy weed
intermingled with shrubs and flowers and stuff, I might be
able to give you something to take that out. There's
products for that over the top. But when it comes
to broad leaf, we're in there pulling them out or
spot treating the one or the other.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Okay, Bill, all right, thank you Tom.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, thanks Chicol, appreciate it. Let's go to Melbourne, Florida.
What do you say and talk with Alice. Alice, good
morning to.
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You, Hi there.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
It's so great to hear your voice again, and we
miss you.
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Well. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I'll be here periodically. I'll be back and I think July. Also,
you know, Teresa's given me some time.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
To take over.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
You know, we appreciate who's taking your place too.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Oh, Teresa's a great person. Well, Teresa and I have
worked together for years and years and years, and she
couldn't be a better person to take this position.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Really really cares well. How often the cut grass in Melbourne,
because you know, I've been cutting it myself for years
because I didn't want the weed cheese to come up
that the weeds seem to come in here and there
in the within the grass. And I had bermuda all originally,
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but that's kind of worked itself out and now I've
got a combination of things.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
But I just wondered.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
If the lawn cutters that work on my neighbors whiles
they come a couple of times a week, it seems,
and they're just running around with those lawnmowers and scattering
the weeds seeds all over the place.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
But I just wondered what you do about.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
The weeds, I mean, and also how often is a
good time to cut grass?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Well?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I cut mine once a week, and out of having
to do it, I believe during the summer time, as possible,
you may need to cut it twice a week, but
normally once a week. As far as weeds in a lawn,
just mowing it once a week should be fine. You're
not gonna move that many seeds around. I wouldn't worry
about that because you're cutting them before they're mature. But
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if you need a weed control product, summer is not
the best time to put it down, I'll be honest.
Too hot you end up damaging your lawn also. Or
you can do spot weed control. But if you need
we control, we do it in the spring or to fall,
so that may help you out a little bit. Alice,
hope it does. Alix, thanks for the call, appreciate it.
We're up against the break as you can tell by
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We're here coming to you from the Summit Responsible Solution
Studios and we're happy to have you. Lizzy's at the controls.
Without her, I can't do anything, but I.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Have faith in you, Tom. I believe that she could
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Speaker 2 (28:37):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Alice had a little follow up question we ran out
of time there about trimming her hibiscus. Yes, and I
guess it was getting kind of dense. She lives in Melbourne,
so I probably didn't have as much damage. And what
she can do is she can thin it out or
she can cut it back. And the general rule on
that is you cut back one third of stems and
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you let the other third come up in flower and
you do that as as needed.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
But you can thin it out if she wants to
and trim it back.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Now, where would you so?
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Because I have a lot of high biscus by I
went there and replanted all mine after the freeze took
ninety percent of them out. But where would you trim inside? Outside?
Every other I.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Just opened it up and trim out, Yeah, every other
stem and every learn long old stems, ones that may
have stopped flowering, maybe ones that are gotting some damage
to them or something like that, and just kind of.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Open it up a little bit. Don't have to do
a whole lot.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
High biscus is kind of a twiggy plant anyway, right.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
And also what I run into I ran into in
the past, I'm staying ahead of the game is the
little white bugs that end up on them.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
There's like they're not flies, but they look like almost bugs.
Probably go yes, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Mealy bugs.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
You need to get those out of control, and you
can use one of the general insecticides Ema soap, Insecticotle
soap will.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Work on them, okay, but you to hit them, yes now.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
And then the other option would be to use one
of the systemic insecticides that you applied to the ground.
And BioAdvance has one that you can just have it
in several forms granular liquid and you can apply to
the ground as they tell you it's taken up and
then it controls the mealy bugs.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Okay, well, thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Okay, I have my top five here, top five shrubs
that survived the cold. You know, I have a whole
bunch of things here about freeze recovery, and I may
get to them, I may not. But the top five
shrubs that survived the cold, and number one at the
top here is Indian hawthorn. I really like Indian hawthorne.
I'm in a I'm consulting in a community where we're
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having to replace some shrubs. But the Indian hawthorns survived well.
The next one definite survivor, no problem at all, dwarf,
theo pond holly. And that one there is a good
one for the landscapes. It's the workhorse, durable. You can
round it up, you can, you know, pun it in
the meat balls if you want to. But it's a
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good one. We can keep, make a little hedge out
of it. The other one that's in my yard that
I went down to twenty four degrees and this one
here had no damage. The bush daisy, and it's out
and it's flowering, it's yellow, it's it's beautiful. So it
made it through that cold. A little bit of burn back,
but just really tough. The other another one, suspense them viburnum.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
No problem.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
It's a lower growing viburnum only gets about four or
five feet tall, and that one there has done well.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Number five, even.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Though I'm not always happy with them, but azalea's azaleas
seem to flower better this year than they having previous years.
And that's what happens after cold. They really it seems
to mature to buds and get them developing.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Mine work gorgeous, and I don't have that many. I'll
have a couple. And I was like, oh, okay, so
there we are. We're looking pretty now.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I know they need good care, and many of us
don't give them the care they need the water and
the fertilizer, but you know it's a durable shrub. An
extra one here, I threw it an extra one. It
should be six, I guess by like five. It's the
dwarf Walter Viburnum, and they flowered good this year. You
have the very tall Walter viburnams, which the Navy plants,
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and they had the dwarf one. And the dwarfs have
looked good too, and they flowered. They were out flowering
very early. Now let me give you another shrub tree
form that I think the cold really helped, and that
is the crape myrtles. They they are beautiful and it's
one community where I do consultant works. That's the best
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that I've seen with the crape myrtles, the pinks, the
reddish colored ones, the whites. They're just producing great displays.
And I think it's all because they got the cold.
You know, they're more northern plants. They're not tropicals. We
do have a tropical crape myrtle also Queen crape myrtle,
but the typical ones I've done very well and they're
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just looking beautiful at this time. Okay, let me talk
a little bit about the freeze. Mentioned that I wanted
to mention that one for you. There's a number of
plants that are having a tough time with the freeze,
and one of them right now is the Norfolk colin pine.
As you drive along, do you notice the Norfolk colin
pines turning brown? They look like Christmas trees. They aren't
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really pine trees. They're distant relatives at the best. But
there's all different degrees of damage to the Norfolk colin pines.
Some of them are totally brown, some of them are
green on one side, brown on the other side. Some
of them are brown at the top, green at the bottom.
So what's going to happen to them? I think only
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time is going to tell. But I think many of
them are going to recover and do fine. But going
up the trunk, you'll notice that probably is green at
the bottom. Some of them are still green at the top.
So what do you do? I you know, people want
to know, do I cut them out? Do I take
them out? Or they get done? I would wait. I'd
wait to at least the end of the summer and
see what happens. Now here's the problem. When the Norfolk
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colin pines come back, they're probably not going to look
like the plants that you remember the little Christmas tree forms.
Most of the norfolklin pines in central Florida and probably
a little bit further south were planted at Christmas time.
We bought them as these neat little Christmas trees. They
probably came with decorations on them, and we put them out.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
In the landscape.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Some of them now are forty feet tall or more.
And those are the ones that are damaged. I mean,
you just drive through the neighborhoods, you'll see the brown
trees sticking up look like Christmas trees. They're not for
Colin pines. So the big question is are they going
to survive. I think most of them are going to survive,
but not be the tree that you really remember. Okay,
give them time. Avocados, mangoes, and karen Bola's frozen back.
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All of them are probably going to come back from
the base. The problem is with the avocados and mangoes,
you've probably lost the grafted variety, the variety they had,
so you just have wait and see what you get.
If it's coming from above the graph, that's good, it's
going to be the one you remember. If it's below
the graph, it's going to be a.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Tree that.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Probably not a very good type. Like the mangoes would
probably be something like a turpentine mango. Avocados would be
just a regular avocado. But you know, you may enjoy
them still. I don't think the mangoes you're going to
enjoy if they taste like turpentine.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I don't know Karen Bola's.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I had a person come up in church and said,
you know what, my Karen Bola is coming back, and
I had mentioned that it probably would. It's going to
come back as multiple stems and it will be the
same Karen.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Bola that you remember. So it's okay.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Mother nature is kind of amazing. As I've been going
through this cold period. It's been four months now since
we had the cold. And the things that are coming
back are Croatons in many areas are coming back. The
Dwarf Scheffalaias like Trinette are coming back and not doing
real bad. They're coming back, ok, Xoras, Exoras. I had
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given up on exors pretty much, but you know, the
exorers are coming up from below the ground. It's amazing
this one community that I have. They're coming up all
over the place. Yeah, there are a few dead ones,
that's for sure. But here's the question you have to
ask yourself. Do you have time to wait? Do you
want to wait for those plans to recover? Yeah, and
so if you don't, then you replant them and on
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the market. Right now, there seems to need plenty of
shrubs out there, plenty of replacements. I was looking at
some of the other day. Croton's look good. Dwarf Scheffaliras
look good. I haven't checked for the exoras, but they're back.
The nurseries have done a great job of getting He's
back on the market, and I.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Usually around AI around August, I should say I start
kind of like, you know, pushing out the idea of
getting your frost blankets. If we didn't just learn from
what we just went through just right now this week,
if you got the money, go on Amazon or wherever
and go ahead and purchase your frost blankets for upcoming
because if you did like I did, I just had
to replace a bunch of items and plants and stuff
(37:05):
that I really really don't want to lose. So and
also we have a text Tom from like no No
wants to know Lizzie, why do you dislike backyard chickens. Yes,
they can be no noisy, but provide amusement, eggs, fertilizer,
and worstream meat. Tom, one hundred percent. I am not
anti backyard chickens. I highly encourage everybody to have them.
(37:29):
I just personally I had. When I was younger, I
had chickens, and I weighed out the options of having turkeys,
and I like raising turkeys a lot better.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
So yeah, it's yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I'll tell you you know, when I was a kid,
we had chickens, and the only place I want to
see chickens.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Now is on my plate that you didn't have to
do some form.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Eggs, chicken legs. I love chicken legs, things of that nature.
But I cleaned out so many chicken coops. Evidently this
gentleman here has not cleaned out the chicken coofs like
I had. And yeah, you do get the fertilizer from
them and everything like that, but right now, chickens on my.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Plate, that's where I'd like to see them.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Was a couple of people trying to send pictures here.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
You cannot get pictures to text. You have to email them.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Probably it'd be easier to email them to Teresa. And
that's Teresa without an h Teresa dot Watt Kim's at
live dot com. Teresa dot walk Ins at live dot com.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, I think this person did send that there, so
we're good there. Here's one here from Jay Melbourne. Do
en car zs do well all day sun on the
southern and warm side of the house. They would rather
have a filter son, but yes, they can survive in
the in full sun if you take good care of them.
But filter son for zies I think is best. So
(38:52):
we're coming to you from the summit. Responsible Solution want
to thank our sponsors by Cow Summit Responsible Solutions, Quality
Greens Specialists with Dana Henrik Peterson's nursery, Hallie and Karen,
and please let them know that you appreciate them sponsoring
us and their business and their nurseries. That's for sure, Lizzie,
thank you very much. And from the Summit Responsible Solutions.
(39:14):
If it's Saturday morning, guess what we're coming to you
with better lawns and gardens. And this is Florida's Talk
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