July 18, 2026 • 39 mins
Tom MacCubbin Starting your garden for the fall. What seeds to plant so they are ready for transplants in 4 weeks.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Good morning to you, and we do we show a
great good morning on this summer day in Florida. That's
gonna be hot out there, and I guarantee you We're
coming to you from the Summit Responsible Solution Studios where
it's a nice and cool random moment. Hi there, I'm
Tomic Coven, Extension Agent emeritus with the University of Florida
and former host of Better Lines of Gardens. We're just
(00:30):
happy to have you. Lizzie's here with me. Without Lizzie,
by the way, we can't get the program up on
the air. She's in control, so she can turn me off,
turn me on whatever, welcome board, welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I appreciate that, but yeah, you know, I don't think
I'm that good.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
But I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, that's true. Without you, I couldn't do anything. I mean,
I'm just sitting here anyway, Lizzie and I've been waiting
for you. Where you been.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
We've been ready to go, I know, almost an hour now.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We kept looking at it, thumbs, talk about what we're growing,
what we're not growing, how hot it is.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's right. Well, anyway, you're here, and we appreciate that.
Teresa's off today in Buffalo in Canada, Niagara Falls. I
feel a little sorry for for a couple of reasons.
One is probably a little cooler, but the second of all,
they got the smoke going across there. So I think
she wrote in one of her text messages that one
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person had a little bit of difficulty, had to stay
inside with the smoke. And it looks like it can
be fairly serious, and with the World Cup games up
there in New York, with the smoke coming across and
stuff like that. So we've had smoke in Florida, do
you remember, I think it was ninety eight, nineteen ninety
eight when we had so much smoking across and everything.
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We can smell it from time to time. So anyway,
we hope Teresa and her group there has a good time,
and I'm sure they will no matter what. So we
will take your calls a little bit later. But if
you want to Texas, that's okay with Lizzie and me.
Two three six eight oh field three to do that.
Texas your message. And last time I did this, I
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had a little trouble with the text messaging. But if
it happens this time, Lizzie'll take them and yell them
over to me or something.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yes, I'm on it, and I'm on it this time.
I didn't realize your screen had and refreshed.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
My bad. The weather's been very hot last week. I
was out doing an all day consultation and the weather
was ninety seven degrees seven degrees. I saw my truck
thermometer one hundred and three. Of course that reflects the
macadam and stuff like that from the road, but so
that's pretty hot out there if you're walking on him.
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We got some rain, now, you've had rain.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yes, we had we've had. We had a little bit.
I mean it's I mean, it's not a desert at
our house yet.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, well my house, it was for about a week
or so. It always happens when my neighbor goes away
because I'll help them with their yard, order their plans,
things like that, and if it rains, I don't have
to do that. Well when they're away.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
It didn't rain, well, hopefully tip you.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, well, the lady of the house supplies great meals.
Let me tell you. Now, we've got a half an
inch yesterday and over the last seven days, i'd say
we've had one inch of rain. So we're looking for
some more, that's for sure. I brought in some leaves.
The kalladium Festival is this week done in lake Place.
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Next weekend. I'm sorry, next weekend at lake Place. Don't
go down this weekend. You might see some great kalladiums,
but next weekend is when it's all happening. And I
brought in two leaves. One is one called Sweetheart and
it's red with a green edge around it, and the
other wind is called Midnight Oil. Okay, And I mentioned
last time on the program that I had bought the ball,
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which is roya tuber of Midnight Oil, and it was
just I think starting to come up at that time,
and you get when you buy something like this. I
got something as big as my thumbnail, that's what it was,
and I said, I don't no, it's going to make it.
I potted it up and over a period of time,
about a month or so, it started to grow, which
was kind of nice. And Midnight Oil is a dark
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I would say, kind of purplish with some reddish tinges
to it, and it's kind of nice. It's a neat one.
And it was new last year. Doctor Hartman Classic Kalladiums
developed this one, and so it went on the market,
and I went up on the internet and I got
the bulb and it wasn't very expensive either, and shipped
it in not from Florida, kind of interesting. Nobody in
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Florida was offering it, but out of Georgia, and so
they shipped it out of Georgia to me. And I'm
growing it. And last year my son and I we
had a father and son type voyage and we went
down to the Kalladium Festival which is next weekend twenty fourth,
twenty fifth, twenty six, and we bought the Sweetheart one
and we've grown those, so it's kind of neat. I
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have a nice little collection of kalladiums, not a whole lot.
My favorite one is Carolyn Wharton Old Time, probably a
one hundred year old variety, probably are about and it's
got the red, the green, and the kind of yellowish
color in it. And it's reliable. I mean, that thing
comes back up every year and produces lots of leaves,
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and I really like that. When there's there's some other
neat ones to a postman joiner Fanny Months and I
have to tell you a story about Fanny Munson. I
couldn't find Fanny months in one time on the market.
So I called down to at that time, it was
Sunball and I call on the phone. I asked him,
I says, where's your Fanny? And I got allfferent kind
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of replies out of that. But what had happened. It
was in two thousand and four that we had all
the hurricanes and the fields flooded and the Fanny months
in variety was flooded out some, so it was very
limited on the market, and so that's where Fanny went to.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yes, and I just looked it up. Is it that
the Carolyn Wharton?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Beautiful too.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It's like a it's like a splatter in a way,
like not splatter, but I don't know how. It looks
like somebody took acid through it on it, but it's
a pretty acid.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I don't know how to explain that.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
No, it's a pretty win and it's reliable and very durable,
very durable. So I kind of like that one there.
But anyway, I am enjoying my kalladiums, getting excited here
because pretty soon we're gonna be planting a new garden.
And Lizzie says she has some peppers still growing there,
and I'm harvesting peppers. I eat the bell peppers, but
I'm getting rid of the weeds, and I wore out
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my string trimmer, so I had to buy myself a
new string trimmer.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Anyway, but we'll be back with hip before we talk
more about the garden and things that we're going to
be doing. How is my landscape doing? You can can
send us a text message two three six eight.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
We're right here for you from A seven Responsible Solutions.
If it's Saturday morning, you're listening to Better Lines and Gardens,
I'm Tom of Cobin and it's as far as Talk
and Entertainment Network. Thank you for joining us this morning
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and on Better Lawns and Gardens. We're coming to you
from the summit Responsible Solution Studios, and Lizzie and I
are happy to have you here. And I'm getting excited
I said about gardening. But first I want to let
you know that next hour, my good friend Roy Levin
joins us to discuss lawn care at this time of
the year and one of the main pest problems. I'll
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also ask him what he thinks is the best lawn
put him on the spot and I'll give you mine
and I'll tell you what I think is the best
type of lawn to have, not necessarily the most variety planet,
but the best type of lawn. This week I had
a neat experience. I visited with some friends this week.
They had no lawn, no lawn in law, lots of
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minimal care shrubs, perennials. His landscape architectures. The landscape is
they use stone, gravel and pavers for walking and ground
covers throughout the landscape. Really neat. They say it's about
a third of an acre, but I believe it's even
more than that. Really is a neat landscape. One area
of what I think was crushed Florida rock was used
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for walking and botchy ball, and I think that would
be fun. So I got like batch ball. You ever
play boutch ball?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Is he maybe?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, Well, you toss out a ball and then you
everybody else tries to get their ball closest to that ball.
It's kind of it's kind of better than golf because
you don't have to go as far and you just
kind of you're still chasing the ball around no matter what.
I don't know anyway, Like I said, I'm getting excited
about my garden. Because in one month, just about one month,
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it's the middle of July. In one month, I'll be
replanting the garden. And as I said, I wore out
one string trimmer getting my garden ready, getting the weeds down.
The weeds got ahead of me. I will tell you
if you came over to this horticulturist garden, you would
find it was all weeded. The weeds are down. Now
I'm roaded telling it, getting it all back in shape.
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But in that process, the head on my weed trimmer,
string trimmer, what do you want to call it, went
out on me. So I had to buy a new one.
Not a new one. The new was much more powerful.
The only one was fifteen years old. Didn't know me
a whole lot. Yeah, so it needed upgrading. And I'm
telling the soul if you want, it's probably not a
bad idea to have the soul pH tested. You can
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get that done through the university, or you can get
a cat and do it yourself. I have a little
cat and I'll test the pH myself and you adjusted
if needed. Most vegetables like it somewhere around six point five.
So if it's not acid enough, you can use sulfur
if it's two acids, you can use lime, and lime
provides magnesium and calcium. You can add organic matter compost
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of manure. You know, I feel bad for the animals
because when I was a kid, we didn't compost a manure.
But today so many people are sensitive to the organisms
that animals have. I guess when I was a kid,
we grew up with them. I mean, I had manure
in my pockets and they told me if you put
manure in your shoes, it made you grow. Well, I
didn't do that, but I do remember going out into
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the fields picking up the animal chips and bringing them
back from my grandmother's garden. Yeah, and so I'd put
them in my pocket.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
No, no, no, ondred percent, No, it was it was I
would do the same, to be honest with you. We
would go in into the cowfields around us and pick
up the cow chefs and bring them back and put
them in the garden.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah. But today, you know, so many people haven't grown
up on a farm or around the animals like you
and me, And so we use compost of manure. And
that's what black cow is, for instance, composted calmanre. Yes.
So so that is just fine. And you have turkey maneuver,
so you've got all of it going there. I will
warn you turkey manure is hotter. It means it's stronger,
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easy to burn plants with it. I was a graduate
student University of Maryland. I had a race with a
friend of mine, and I was telling him that I
could beat him with manure. He was going to use
regular commercial fertilizer. And I got turkey manure, made up
a solution, put it on my plants, and killed all
the plants. He wouldn't He said, that's it. He wouldn't
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give me another try. I'll start planning and around the
middle of August unless I give Candiloops a try. If
I give Candiloops a try, they will go in August
the first I have not planet candilopes of musk melons
wherever you want to call him. For a long time.
I have fond memories of me and candlopes growing great candilopes.
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This was in Maryland, and I grew some good ones
in Florida also. But the thing I remember the most,
I think is looking down in my garden with a
bunch of doves down there, pulling up my cantilope seedlings.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I wish that that was the minor problem that I have,
But I swear I think that my property is nothing
but the home of stink bugs like they come here.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Oh it's horrible. I mean, I'm not exaggerating.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Like it's the point where I don't want to plant
like tomatoes, I don't want to plant melons. I don't
want to do any of that because it is no
matter what I spray.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Have you tried spinosa spino sad. It's a natural control
and low toxicity, and if you get it on when
the stink bugs are first starting, it affects the immatures,
and so you might you might give it a try. Said,
it's under Captain Jack's Dead Bug brew. Don't you love
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that that name? Yeah, the supposedly the organisms have found
in a rum brewing groups down the Caribbean, and so
they cultured it out and that's where we have it.
But Fertiloam has it in There's Southern Egg also has
spinosa or spino sad. However you want to pronounce it
so well? When you have that problem, you remind me
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and I'll tell you again.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Now, would you recommend, because we're telling right now, would
you recommend for me to go ahead of put that
down now while I'm telling to count counteract this.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
So I have to have the actually the immature stages
there and then you can spray them when when they're
young like that. Give it a try, see if it
works anything, I'll tell you maybe it'll help you. But anyway,
so I'll give kandiloops a try again. I think I
think I'm probably not going to plant corn, although I
might's on my favorite list. I'll have Tom's top five
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in just a little while. But this year the squirrels
beat me to the corn.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Roy minor earworms.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, I can handle the same product. That's spinners. Take
care of them, does a great job either or that
or invite the wasp in the wasp love them. I
am sowing seeds now as we speak today, for tomatoes
and peppers, because in four weeks I can have a
transplant ready for the garden. Peppers may take six five
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to six weeks, but I can have a transplant ready
for the garden. So I'll be doing tomatoes and peppers.
And the way I do that, as I plant, those
seeds germinate very readily, especially tomato seeds, and I'll put
one tomato seed to a small pot or a cell
pack and with the peppers. Now, I'll still do the
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same thing, but you often get more skips out of that,
meaning the seed didn't germinate. But it'll workout fine for me.
I guarantee you. Let's see. So that's basically my gardening
at this time. I've got the weeds out, I'm towing it.
I'm sowing my seeds. I may plant cantalopes on August
the first. I'll work in any manures, any combos, any
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organic matter, and I hope you'll do that too. How's
the landscape doing recovering from winter? I have areas that
I have to decide what to do. I have it
at this point. There's still void where I lost a
few plants or pulled them out, couldn't wait for them.
There's some plants like Croaton's, for instance, or this little
trinette dwarf sheffalera. How long do you wait for that
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plant to come back? I have waited. I remember one
year and a fourth of July is over. I remember
one year waiting for a croat and to come back
or start to grow by July fourth, and it did.
It came back and I have a lot of communities,
and I find that in those areas a lot of
these plants are coming back from the base. Somebody sent
me a picture yesterday of a plume Aria fran japany
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Hawaiian lay plant and it was just coming up from
right at the ground, a new shoot coming up, and
they want to know whether they should leave it or not.
And I don't know. You know, sometimes if you can't wait,
you go out and buy a new one that may
be the best. I noticed that the nurseries are recovering,
that a lot of the plants were vacant are there now,
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so we have a possibility of getting the plants back.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And with you saying that, like last couple of years,
I've reminded and highly encouraged our listeners to right now,
this week or within the next two weeks, go ahead
and order your frost blankets.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Oh yeah, if you want to get them, sure.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yes, because see if y'all just remember, look at your yard,
see what happened. Because I mean I'm one of those people.
I had them, but I didn't have enough for that.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Three day of like a freeze we had. Yeah it's
like nine degrees.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, did did they work with the nine degrees or
I mean we had twenty.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Four some of them.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Like, I lost quite a few high biscuits because it
was just way too much for them.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
So I house twenty four degrees and that was for
about twelve hours or so. And no, a lot of
the plants, I laid them down, put blankets on top
of them, things of that nature, and they still froze
back to the ground. And I lost my high biscus totally. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Any you know, you could potentially go ahead and also
research right now, like the Christmas lights that are not led.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, and then this way.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
You're ahead of the game four.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Because I'm not a meter alogist, so don't take this
as this is what's going to happen. But we just
have two winters of extreme Like we had four weeks
of really cold two years ago and this one we
had nine degree weather in some spots and snow. So
I'm just saying you may want to go ahead and
do your fun stuff that you need to help.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Go to a garage sale or go to a state sale.
You might be able to find a Christmas lights there.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Facts.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, I bought a whole case of Christmas lights one time.
At an estate sale.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Those are the best, are the best fines?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah, yeah, we'll replace some plants. I'm going to get
a greening resistance citrus. I haven't done that yet, and
and so I want to do that one that you
know is resistant, somewhat resisted, tolerant, I guess is the
better word. I think they'd like me to use Dana
Henrik Quality Green Specialists that he was getting some in,
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so I will make a contact with him again and
see when he gets some in there. Fertilizing container plants.
You know, there is a fertilizer ban on throughout much
of Florida, not all of Florida, but check with your
county agent and there's a fertilizer band saying you can't
fertilize landscape plants. But normally under that band you can
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still fertilize container plants, so check it out. You can
fertilize edibles also. So I'll be fertilizing my plants. I mean,
I just want to keep them going. I want them
looking good, and so that's what I'll be doing, repotting
lots of plants. I've got some that are root bound
and containers, so I'll be doing that, and I'm enjoying
my colius. And I planted coliers from seed, and you know,
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I plant the seeds in March, and I had a
transplant ready to go in my garden by the end
of April. Eastman containers normally, and Colius is a coat
of many colors, as they say. And I got allfferent
kind of leaf patterns neat plants, and I can go
ahead and make cuttings now and enjoy them that way.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
So nice.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I love the colis. I'm growing most of my things
from seed. I'll be honest with he is getting so
I can't to buy things on the open market, so
I'll buy a packet of seeds and grow them that way.
That's why I'm doing my tomatoes and my peppers. I
have other reasons for doing tomatoes that way. Uh, And
I'll tell you later. But anyway, Uh, I just decided
to grow from seed. And now when I find the
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colias are flowering, they are. They bring in the pollinators also,
which is kind of nice and uh. And so they're
starting to grow seedlings from the bite base now out
of neat. Tell you what we're be coming back in
just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Here.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
We'd be happy to have your questions. You can give
us a call call Triple eight four five five two
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I'm Tom of Coup and then we're coming to you
from a stomach Responsible Solutions. This is Fara Talk and
Entertainment Network. It's a great Saturday morning. We're happy to
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have you with us. Here are better launch and gardens
coming to you from the second Responsible Solutions Studios. What
are you going to do today? Well, when I get home,
I know I'm gonna be plenty of my tomato seeds.
I'll be doing that. I'm hoping to get back out
in the garden and got my rotatiller all fired up.
I ran out of gas. I was down there road
to tilling. I guess everybody does that. I don't want
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to know it's true, but I ran out of gas.
So what do you do? You go over to your
neighbor's house, and the neighbor didn't have any gas either.
So here I am might take off and I go
down to the to the station and get some gas
and bring it back. So now I've got gas for
the mower and also for a roadaotiller.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Now now, you're set.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I'm set. I want to remind her by the Kaladian
Festival next weekend twenty fourth, twenty fifth, twenty six, Lake Placid.
It's worth the trip, I will tell you. You can go
down there and you can take the ride. It does
cost you a little bit on the bus. And they
have a person who's an expert on commune kalladiums. And
we had doctor Hartman who developed that midnight oil which
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was kind of nice. And we went around the fields
and it was a father and Sunday, Jeff and I
went down and we had a good time doing that
and look at the fields, ate lunch there, bought a
few bulbs, and came on back home and enjoyed.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
It was really nice. And also that the midnight oil
that you were talking about.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Tom showed me and it almost looks silky and it's
black and if you look at at a right angle,
it has like hints of like red.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
In between eyes like yeah, wow, it's.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So if you don't rub it, you'll get your hands greasy.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
So you know, Teresa does like a haunted like a
theme for gardening sometimes that that would be something I
would think that you would want to plant. Yeah, and
to be black, and it kind of fits that whole thing,
you know.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I don't think it's gonna sell very well. Maybe I'm wrong,
but a curious gardener for the one who wants something different.
But I think that Sweetheart, which also gave you, is
gonna and Carolyn Wharton, it's gonna be gonna be selling.
I mean there's tons of cladings. University has three new ones.
I think they're going to be on display. Also, I
think if.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
They marketed it right, then they would actually sell. Because
I know that there's a famous tattoo artist and she
is into the whole black stuff, like everything being black
and gothic, and she actually does the black toolip. She
grows them at her little small city that she lives in,
and people come from all over the United States and
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other countries to.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Come see this. And so I'm thinking that if they
market this right, that they may be something different different.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, well, they're gonna have to work at it. I think.
Jean Reid wrote me here. She said she was looking
forward to the show. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Jean.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Jean and Don are old friends. I'll tell you on
them for a long time, their master gardners, and she
said they have three and a half acres. Oh, I
wish I had three and a half acres. I think,
I think I wish. But she says it's getting old,
but still getting out there, and they're growing Calabasa, calabasa,
cuban pumpkin. It's this big squash type thing, winner type squash.
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And so she loves them, and she says Gardner's great therapy.
I tend to agree with her, that's for sure. Do
we have somebody up on the line.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Here, Yes, we have Bev from Tally.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Oh, Bev, Hi, Beverly.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
How you doing, hey, Tom? How is you right?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Well? I don't know, Lizzie. How I look okay?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
He looks very nice.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
He looks very dapper. He looks like he's ready to
go out weedy.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
It looks like I just got up. As what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
No, my dog women business is dapper dogs. So that's
a good word.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Very good, very good. So what are you up to today?
How can we help you?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Well? I have a couple of questions. One of his
last year, I bought a giant petunia and it had
and the blooms were real big and so deep purple
that they look black. And it's kind of been dwindling
away a bit. And I wonder if a petunia has
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a lifespan.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yes it does, And you bought this last year. Yeah, boy,
you're lucky. Of course you're You're in Tallahasseee a little
bit cooler my petunias right now. I growing from seed
every year, and uh boy, they're gone. I have one
that's struggling. It's going to go on the compost pile
very soon.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But so you're lucky to have that, Yeah, Norman, they
give out within within six months. Anyway.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Oh okay, Well, I'm I'm gonna keep trying to pune
it back and nurse it along and maybe can I
can I if I take cuttings, will they be new
plants or will they.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Just be they'll be the same. If you can get
at the root from cuttings, you're lucky.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Can they do that? All right? And then I had
another question about you know, you've seen the pictures of
my ammarillist bead, but oh yeah, I have paper whites
and daffodils out there. I know you're lay not exactly
sure where they bloom because they go away and hide,
but some of them are heaving out of the ground. Okay,
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I've just put them in a paper bag. You know,
in some place it doesn't get a lot of sun.
But should I try and go out there and dig
up around the bed to see if I can find
the breast of them?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
No, I just leave them there. They should be fine. Yeah. Right,
And the ones if they're coming up out of the ground,
go ahead and put them back in the ground. They'll
be fine. You're lucky because you can grow the paper
whites and some of the daffodils, which is really good
in central Florida. You know, they're a one time show
at the best. But in the Tallahouse area you get
cold enough so that you're okay.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Oh that's interesting. And one more thing. I wanted to
commiserate with your neighbors that have three acres. We have
eight acres.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I know you got a big piece of property. I
wish I had something like that.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Well, I still love it, but I have to have
some help these days. Yeah, well with the mowing and stuff.
And for nine months we didn't get a drop of rain.
Oh so you can't burn anything.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
No, No, well, you're getting rain now.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Right, We're finally getting some rain. I'm glad, but when
it rains. I don't need to water, but when it
doesn't rain, it makes me get out there and turn
my beds on and move my sprinklers around. And I
ain't good about three or four thousand steps in just
doing that.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, well that's good. Yeah, keep you busy. I got
to run Beverly. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Okay, nice talking to you.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Nice talking to you too. My wife Joni used to
tell me I had all the property I can handle,
and I got about a half an acre and that's
about it.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Oh goodness, we got two and a half.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I know five, I'd like did you use step five
years old? Yeah? I would like to have five.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
It was great because back then that's when where we
actually had like we made it, had a self made
little pond and we would do like muddying events and
wonderful stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
But yeah, no tap to mow and take care of you.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
If a portion of it was woodlands, you know, kind
of trees and stuff like that, Naedi plants, that wouldn't
be too bad.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
No, no, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
But open land half in the mo a all the time,
that would be kind of a chore.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I think I'd had to invest in some goats.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, I'd like to have some goats. I don't think.
I don't think in my neighborhood that would be very popular.
And even a couple of sheep that would be good too. Okay,
I grew up in the farming community. You know, how
about a cow that would be nice. Anyway, we're coming
to you from Something Responsible Solutions Studio. This is not
the regular farm program, but it is Better Lines and
(27:42):
Gardens and this is as far as Talk and Entertainment Network,
and good morning to you. I'm Tom of Coven. If
you haven't figured it out by now, you're listening to
Better Lawns and Gardens. We're happy to have you with us,
(28:04):
and we'd be happy to take your phone calls one
triple eight forty five lawns or one eight eight eight
four five five, two nine sixty seven where it can
texts me at two three six eight. Oh right now,
I want to do Tom's top five vegetables to plant
next month, okay, And number one is the tomato. Well,
you like cherry and grape tomatoes. One like a sweet
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million sweet treat. Those are all some of the good.
Sweetheart is another one, but I'll be planting my tomato
seeds today, so I'll be having transplants in about four weeks.
It's amazing during the summertime, they grow rapidly. Next of all,
we're doing peppers, and that's number two on Tom's Top five.
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I like the bell peppers. I know Lizzie likes the
hot peppers, but I like the bell and my favorite
bell pepper is better Bell. That's the name of it.
Developed by University of Florida.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
That's what I get all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
It is a good one, I will tell you, okay.
Number three on Tom's Top five summer squash, yellow or zacchini.
Maybe from time to time I will go with butternut
or acorn squash. The only problem I have with them
is that they are a little more bug prone. And
squash plants. You need to get ones that are downy
mail doing powdery mail do resistant. But we like our squash,
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squash and onions fried up together, mighty tasty. Number four
Tom's Top five bush snap beans not string beans. I
had a professor told me, he said, don't call them
string beans. I've spent my life breeding the strings out
of the beans so that they're snap beans.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Snap beans.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Okay, yeah, yeah, well string beans still have strings in them,
but most of them are snap beans now, so they
don't have the strings. And number five on my list
is corn. Now. I love to grow corn, and I
think I'm growing it for the squirrels these days.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
So I don't know at least somebody's getting I.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
May not play in corn, but I'm thinking here's the
extra out of Tom's top five. The extra one is candeloop.
I think I'd like to get back and get some
candle loop in the ground and see if I can
grow them and keep the pest down. The biggest problem
with candeloop is the pest they get into them, and
so they cause us all from kind of problems. Anyway.
Tom's top five tomatoes, peppers, summer squash, bush beans, snap beans,
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and corn. Let's go to the phone call. Just talk
to Polly in Ovido, Paully, Good morning to you. Hello, Polly,
are you there? We're giving Pollie what five? Four? Pollie?
Are you there? Let's go to Jerry. What do you say?
Jerry in Citrus? Jerry, good morning to you. Hello, Jerry,
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good morning. How are you doing?
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Oh good, you're doing fine out here? Wow?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, right now, I am yes.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
I got a couple of questions.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I have the.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Freedom BlackBerry Okay, I'm okay okay, and uh, I get
a nice crop of the on the floor cane in
the spring, and now I get a smaller crop and
the berries are smaller, and they're they're connects sort of
connected together or real close together. Okay, on there, what
what is the cause of that situation? What am I doing?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Okay? I doubt if you're doing anything wrong, it's probably
just some environmental conditions that are causing that. And just
just keep the plants growing, you're and they'll eventually grow
out of.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
It, okay. And the blackberries, uh will continue to do
that type of thing in the when they're in the
primal on the primalcine, yes they could okay, thank you.
And the other one you mentioned spinosa, Yes, the.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Lovers, Well, you know I have some reports that when
the lover grasshoppers are young, uh, spin those that does
have an effect on them, you know, so that would
be the lot of us days. So it may help.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
So is there anything better out there?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
You know, we're using just a regular products. The synthetic
pie reeth runs things like some of the Ortho products
and the bio advanced products, and they're probably the other
option you have, but you want to get them when
they're small. When they get big, they're really pesticide resistance.
We used to use the old seven, not the new seven,
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but the old seven, but used to work out real well.
But seven is still there and it's a synthetic pie reethroid,
so you might give it a try.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Okay, what's the old seven compared to the new seven?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
The old seven had a different insecticide in it and
it was good for chewing type insects.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Okay, they did a switch down.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, became less favorable. Okay, Jerry, you have a great day,
thank you. Okay, which one you want me to go to?
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Let's go ahead and take pinky real quick.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Pinky pinky, good morning to you.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Hey.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Okay, I have twelve raised garden beds and I go
I do veggies every year, but every time I try
to get a jump on seeds from a tomatoes, peppers,
anything anything that I try to plant, I developed legginess.
I don't have a greenhouse. I don't have a way
to put them outside because of the you know, the
heavy downpours that we get and the grow lights you
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know in that.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Anyhow is they're on my porch right now, they're German eating.
Is there a setup that I can put out on
my porch to try to get them not get leggy?
Or is there something I can put them outside that
that alters the rain from downpouring on them.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Okay. What I have done thinking is, uh, they've got
to be outside. They've got to be in full sun.
So what I've done is taken clear plastic, put it
up on some tall something table or whatever, stretch it
over it, and then put the ceilings underneath that so
they get the full sun. They've got to have the
full sun. Okay.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
So I could take my arch cannel paddle or cattle
panels and lower them and do that too with the plastic.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Perfect Okay, anything like that where you can get the
full sun on the plants and keep them out of
the rain. I set mine outside and I'm just very careful.
If I know it's going to rain, I'll give them
a little more shelter. But they've got to have full
sun otherwise they're gonna get leggy.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
I got every year, every every spring and fall, that's
what they do.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Okay, that's what you need to do.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
I'll try. I will try the plastic.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Now okay, sounds good. We go in the poly now poly,
good morning to you. How can we help you today?
Understand you have wass?
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Yes, thank you so much. I've got they come back.
Every year I've lived in my house thirty years. I've
looked for a source. I don't find nests. They always
hover around the stucco overhang porch, but they come out
around ten in the morning, and now that it's so hot,
they will even stay till like nine until they leave.
And they terrorize me. I mean, they come after me.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
They know you're scared of me.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
So many things. I'll just tell you real quick. I've
heard to get seven dusts, but I can't find where
they're coming from. Yeah, and I also a pest control
guy said to clean the entire overhang, which I did
and then flatter it with original golden colored listering. So
I did that and it's doing nothing, and they just
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they're just coming back. And I'm wondering if if there's
any any suggestions.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Well, you know, there are wasp traps. You can buy them.
You can go up online there and the wasp will
come in there. They're they're brought in I guess by
the yellow portion of the traps, and they work well.
They work well, Lizzie says, they work well, so you
might want to get them, get a wasp trap. Otherwise
they're coming in for other insects. That's what was after.
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They come in after spiders and all different kinds of
things like that. So if you have any of those around,
that's going to be part of the problem. But I
think in your case, the wasp traps may be your
best bet. And you if you have a picnic or something,
they suggest you set them out at the picnic table
and that will help keep them down. So does that
sound like something you can use? I'm sorry, I sound
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like something you could use.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
Yeah, well, is there a name of one kind or
or where do you get it for me?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
It's just it's like any of the box stores that
carry and they kind of look like a cone like
they have like a plastic shell over the top of it,
so they'll fly up into it and then they can't
get out.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, you can find them at the pig box stores
and places like I'm sure Ace hardware stuff like that
will have them.
Speaker 7 (36:41):
Is it something that hangs or you put it on
the ground.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
You can hang it, you can set it on the
table any place like that where the wasp are bothering you.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
Oh geez, they're not coming after spiders are coming after me.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
You're their Tay Street right now. Yeah, well, sounds like
this might be something to work for you.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
Several years ago I got bit by three in a
row right at the same time, and it Wow, now
I'm petrified. But yeah, I got near a nest and
they got me twice on my.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
If you do that, it's terrible. Yeah, normally or no,
not that aggressive? Yeah, okay, okay, I hope it helps you,
Paul in that I care you know? Was it is
normally the palasis wasp, which is not not in aggressive
wass unless it has a big nest. My uncle used
to play with him. He used to put his hand
up near the nest and they wouldn't come after him.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Simply just maybe had that special that whisper or maybe
he's a wasp whisperer.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, maybe I don't know, or some fragrance. I don't know.
A real quick question here, I get Well, the Norfolk
Islin Pines recover and right now we're starting to make
the decision. I'm seeing a bunch of them that will
and a bunch of them it won't if they got
any green on them. There's hope that the Norfolk Island
pines will recover if they're totally browned out. Now, my
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guess is you're not going to see the Norfolk on
pine in that spot. And you know, most of these
come from little Christmas trees that people bought, so when
Christmas comes around again, you can get a new nor
Norfolk Island pine. But Norfolk Onlin pines are really kind
of browned out, and there's lots of variations. Some of
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them are alive and some of them have a little green,
and some of them are totally dead. So I think
we're going to be taking a lot of them out
in the future.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Here also Pearson's grocery textas and said that they have
seven dust and they have wast traps.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Okay, the seven dust. I don't know that there's the
old seven or the new seven. So it'll be there,
so you can ask Karen or Howie when you get there.
We're certainly happy to have you with us today. We
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the next hour. When Roy Levin joins me, we're coming
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Tom of coven is as Florida's Talk and Entertainment Network
Good morning to you, and we do we show a
great good morning on this summer day in Florida. That's
gonna be hot out there, and I guarantee you We're
coming to you from the Summit Responsible Solution Studios where
it's a nice and cool random moment. Hi there, I'm
Tomic Coven, Extension Agent emeritus with the University of Florida
and former host of Better Lines of Gardens. We're just
(00:30):
happy to have you. Lizzie's here with me. Without Lizzie,
by the way, we can't get the program up on
the air. She's in control, so she can turn me off,
turn me on whatever, welcome board, welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I appreciate that, but yeah, you know, I don't think
I'm that good.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
But I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, that's true. Without you, I couldn't do anything. I mean,
I'm just sitting here anyway, Lizzie and I've been waiting
for you. Where you been.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
We've been ready to go, I know, almost an hour now.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We kept looking at it, thumbs, talk about what we're growing,
what we're not growing, how hot it is.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's right. Well, anyway, you're here, and we appreciate that.
Teresa's off today in Buffalo in Canada, Niagara Falls. I
feel a little sorry for for a couple of reasons.
One is probably a little cooler, but the second of all,
they got the smoke going across there. So I think
she wrote in one of her text messages that one
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person had a little bit of difficulty, had to stay
inside with the smoke. And it looks like it can
be fairly serious, and with the World Cup games up
there in New York, with the smoke coming across and
stuff like that. So we've had smoke in Florida, do
you remember, I think it was ninety eight, nineteen ninety
eight when we had so much smoking across and everything.
(01:46):
We can smell it from time to time. So anyway,
we hope Teresa and her group there has a good time,
and I'm sure they will no matter what. So we
will take your calls a little bit later. But if
you want to Texas, that's okay with Lizzie and me.
Two three six eight oh field three to do that.
Texas your message. And last time I did this, I
(02:06):
had a little trouble with the text messaging. But if
it happens this time, Lizzie'll take them and yell them
over to me or something.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yes, I'm on it, and I'm on it this time.
I didn't realize your screen had and refreshed.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
My bad. The weather's been very hot last week. I
was out doing an all day consultation and the weather
was ninety seven degrees seven degrees. I saw my truck
thermometer one hundred and three. Of course that reflects the
macadam and stuff like that from the road, but so
that's pretty hot out there if you're walking on him.
(02:39):
We got some rain, now, you've had rain.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yes, we had we've had. We had a little bit.
I mean it's I mean, it's not a desert at
our house yet.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, well my house, it was for about a week
or so. It always happens when my neighbor goes away
because I'll help them with their yard, order their plans,
things like that, and if it rains, I don't have
to do that. Well when they're away.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
It didn't rain, well, hopefully tip you.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, well, the lady of the house supplies great meals.
Let me tell you. Now, we've got a half an
inch yesterday and over the last seven days, i'd say
we've had one inch of rain. So we're looking for
some more, that's for sure. I brought in some leaves.
The kalladium Festival is this week done in lake Place.
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Next weekend. I'm sorry, next weekend at lake Place. Don't
go down this weekend. You might see some great kalladiums,
but next weekend is when it's all happening. And I
brought in two leaves. One is one called Sweetheart and
it's red with a green edge around it, and the
other wind is called Midnight Oil. Okay, And I mentioned
last time on the program that I had bought the ball,
(03:47):
which is roya tuber of Midnight Oil, and it was
just I think starting to come up at that time,
and you get when you buy something like this. I
got something as big as my thumbnail, that's what it was,
and I said, I don't no, it's going to make it.
I potted it up and over a period of time,
about a month or so, it started to grow, which
was kind of nice. And Midnight Oil is a dark
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I would say, kind of purplish with some reddish tinges
to it, and it's kind of nice. It's a neat one.
And it was new last year. Doctor Hartman Classic Kalladiums
developed this one, and so it went on the market,
and I went up on the internet and I got
the bulb and it wasn't very expensive either, and shipped
it in not from Florida, kind of interesting. Nobody in
(04:31):
Florida was offering it, but out of Georgia, and so
they shipped it out of Georgia to me. And I'm
growing it. And last year my son and I we
had a father and son type voyage and we went
down to the Kalladium Festival which is next weekend twenty fourth,
twenty fifth, twenty six, and we bought the Sweetheart one
and we've grown those, so it's kind of neat. I
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have a nice little collection of kalladiums, not a whole lot.
My favorite one is Carolyn Wharton Old Time, probably a
one hundred year old variety, probably are about and it's
got the red, the green, and the kind of yellowish
color in it. And it's reliable. I mean, that thing
comes back up every year and produces lots of leaves,
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and I really like that. When there's there's some other
neat ones to a postman joiner Fanny Months and I
have to tell you a story about Fanny Munson. I
couldn't find Fanny months in one time on the market.
So I called down to at that time, it was
Sunball and I call on the phone. I asked him,
I says, where's your Fanny? And I got allfferent kind
(05:38):
of replies out of that. But what had happened. It
was in two thousand and four that we had all
the hurricanes and the fields flooded and the Fanny months
in variety was flooded out some, so it was very
limited on the market, and so that's where Fanny went to.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yes, and I just looked it up. Is it that
the Carolyn Wharton?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Beautiful too.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It's like a it's like a splatter in a way,
like not splatter, but I don't know how. It looks
like somebody took acid through it on it, but it's
a pretty acid.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I don't know how to explain that.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
No, it's a pretty win and it's reliable and very durable,
very durable. So I kind of like that one there.
But anyway, I am enjoying my kalladiums, getting excited here
because pretty soon we're gonna be planting a new garden.
And Lizzie says she has some peppers still growing there,
and I'm harvesting peppers. I eat the bell peppers, but
I'm getting rid of the weeds, and I wore out
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my string trimmer, so I had to buy myself a
new string trimmer.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Anyway, but we'll be back with hip before we talk
more about the garden and things that we're going to
be doing. How is my landscape doing? You can can
send us a text message two three six eight.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
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If it's Saturday morning, you're listening to Better Lines and Gardens,
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and on Better Lawns and Gardens. We're coming to you
from the summit Responsible Solution Studios, and Lizzie and I
are happy to have you here. And I'm getting excited
I said about gardening. But first I want to let
you know that next hour, my good friend Roy Levin
joins us to discuss lawn care at this time of
the year and one of the main pest problems. I'll
(07:33):
also ask him what he thinks is the best lawn
put him on the spot and I'll give you mine
and I'll tell you what I think is the best
type of lawn to have, not necessarily the most variety planet,
but the best type of lawn. This week I had
a neat experience. I visited with some friends this week.
They had no lawn, no lawn in law, lots of
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minimal care shrubs, perennials. His landscape architectures. The landscape is
they use stone, gravel and pavers for walking and ground
covers throughout the landscape. Really neat. They say it's about
a third of an acre, but I believe it's even
more than that. Really is a neat landscape. One area
of what I think was crushed Florida rock was used
(08:18):
for walking and botchy ball, and I think that would
be fun. So I got like batch ball. You ever
play boutch ball?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Is he maybe?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, Well, you toss out a ball and then you
everybody else tries to get their ball closest to that ball.
It's kind of it's kind of better than golf because
you don't have to go as far and you just
kind of you're still chasing the ball around no matter what.
I don't know anyway, Like I said, I'm getting excited
about my garden. Because in one month, just about one month,
(08:47):
it's the middle of July. In one month, I'll be
replanting the garden. And as I said, I wore out
one string trimmer getting my garden ready, getting the weeds down.
The weeds got ahead of me. I will tell you
if you came over to this horticulturist garden, you would
find it was all weeded. The weeds are down. Now
I'm roaded telling it, getting it all back in shape.
(09:09):
But in that process, the head on my weed trimmer,
string trimmer, what do you want to call it, went
out on me. So I had to buy a new one.
Not a new one. The new was much more powerful.
The only one was fifteen years old. Didn't know me
a whole lot. Yeah, so it needed upgrading. And I'm
telling the soul if you want, it's probably not a
bad idea to have the soul pH tested. You can
(09:32):
get that done through the university, or you can get
a cat and do it yourself. I have a little
cat and I'll test the pH myself and you adjusted
if needed. Most vegetables like it somewhere around six point five.
So if it's not acid enough, you can use sulfur
if it's two acids, you can use lime, and lime
provides magnesium and calcium. You can add organic matter compost
(09:55):
of manure. You know, I feel bad for the animals
because when I was a kid, we didn't compost a manure.
But today so many people are sensitive to the organisms
that animals have. I guess when I was a kid,
we grew up with them. I mean, I had manure
in my pockets and they told me if you put
manure in your shoes, it made you grow. Well, I
didn't do that, but I do remember going out into
(10:19):
the fields picking up the animal chips and bringing them
back from my grandmother's garden. Yeah, and so I'd put
them in my pocket.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
No, no, no, ondred percent, No, it was it was I
would do the same, to be honest with you. We
would go in into the cowfields around us and pick
up the cow chefs and bring them back and put
them in the garden.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah. But today, you know, so many people haven't grown
up on a farm or around the animals like you
and me, And so we use compost of manure. And
that's what black cow is, for instance, composted calmanre. Yes.
So so that is just fine. And you have turkey maneuver,
so you've got all of it going there. I will
warn you turkey manure is hotter. It means it's stronger,
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easy to burn plants with it. I was a graduate
student University of Maryland. I had a race with a
friend of mine, and I was telling him that I
could beat him with manure. He was going to use
regular commercial fertilizer. And I got turkey manure, made up
a solution, put it on my plants, and killed all
the plants. He wouldn't He said, that's it. He wouldn't
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give me another try. I'll start planning and around the
middle of August unless I give Candiloops a try. If
I give Candiloops a try, they will go in August
the first I have not planet candilopes of musk melons
wherever you want to call him. For a long time.
I have fond memories of me and candlopes growing great candilopes.
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This was in Maryland, and I grew some good ones
in Florida also. But the thing I remember the most,
I think is looking down in my garden with a
bunch of doves down there, pulling up my cantilope seedlings.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I wish that that was the minor problem that I have,
But I swear I think that my property is nothing
but the home of stink bugs like they come here.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Oh it's horrible. I mean, I'm not exaggerating.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Like it's the point where I don't want to plant
like tomatoes, I don't want to plant melons. I don't
want to do any of that because it is no
matter what I spray.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Have you tried spinosa spino sad. It's a natural control
and low toxicity, and if you get it on when
the stink bugs are first starting, it affects the immatures,
and so you might you might give it a try. Said,
it's under Captain Jack's Dead Bug brew. Don't you love
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that that name? Yeah, the supposedly the organisms have found
in a rum brewing groups down the Caribbean, and so
they cultured it out and that's where we have it.
But Fertiloam has it in There's Southern Egg also has
spinosa or spino sad. However you want to pronounce it
so well? When you have that problem, you remind me
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and I'll tell you again.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Now, would you recommend, because we're telling right now, would
you recommend for me to go ahead of put that
down now while I'm telling to count counteract this.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
So I have to have the actually the immature stages
there and then you can spray them when when they're
young like that. Give it a try, see if it
works anything, I'll tell you maybe it'll help you. But anyway,
so I'll give kandiloops a try again. I think I
think I'm probably not going to plant corn, although I
might's on my favorite list. I'll have Tom's top five
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in just a little while. But this year the squirrels
beat me to the corn.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Roy minor earworms.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, I can handle the same product. That's spinners. Take
care of them, does a great job either or that
or invite the wasp in the wasp love them. I
am sowing seeds now as we speak today, for tomatoes
and peppers, because in four weeks I can have a
transplant ready for the garden. Peppers may take six five
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to six weeks, but I can have a transplant ready
for the garden. So I'll be doing tomatoes and peppers.
And the way I do that, as I plant, those
seeds germinate very readily, especially tomato seeds, and I'll put
one tomato seed to a small pot or a cell
pack and with the peppers. Now, I'll still do the
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same thing, but you often get more skips out of that,
meaning the seed didn't germinate. But it'll workout fine for me.
I guarantee you. Let's see. So that's basically my gardening
at this time. I've got the weeds out, I'm towing it.
I'm sowing my seeds. I may plant cantalopes on August
the first. I'll work in any manures, any combos, any
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organic matter, and I hope you'll do that too. How's
the landscape doing recovering from winter? I have areas that
I have to decide what to do. I have it
at this point. There's still void where I lost a
few plants or pulled them out, couldn't wait for them.
There's some plants like Croaton's, for instance, or this little
trinette dwarf sheffalera. How long do you wait for that
(15:00):
plant to come back? I have waited. I remember one
year and a fourth of July is over. I remember
one year waiting for a croat and to come back
or start to grow by July fourth, and it did.
It came back and I have a lot of communities,
and I find that in those areas a lot of
these plants are coming back from the base. Somebody sent
me a picture yesterday of a plume Aria fran japany
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Hawaiian lay plant and it was just coming up from
right at the ground, a new shoot coming up, and
they want to know whether they should leave it or not.
And I don't know. You know, sometimes if you can't wait,
you go out and buy a new one that may
be the best. I noticed that the nurseries are recovering,
that a lot of the plants were vacant are there now,
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so we have a possibility of getting the plants back.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And with you saying that, like last couple of years,
I've reminded and highly encouraged our listeners to right now,
this week or within the next two weeks, go ahead
and order your frost blankets.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Oh yeah, if you want to get them, sure.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yes, because see if y'all just remember, look at your yard,
see what happened. Because I mean I'm one of those people.
I had them, but I didn't have enough for that.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Three day of like a freeze we had. Yeah it's
like nine degrees.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, did did they work with the nine degrees or
I mean we had twenty.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Four some of them.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Like, I lost quite a few high biscuits because it
was just way too much for them.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
So I house twenty four degrees and that was for
about twelve hours or so. And no, a lot of
the plants, I laid them down, put blankets on top
of them, things of that nature, and they still froze
back to the ground. And I lost my high biscus totally. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Any you know, you could potentially go ahead and also
research right now, like the Christmas lights that are not led.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, and then this way.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
You're ahead of the game four.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Because I'm not a meter alogist, so don't take this
as this is what's going to happen. But we just
have two winters of extreme Like we had four weeks
of really cold two years ago and this one we
had nine degree weather in some spots and snow. So
I'm just saying you may want to go ahead and
do your fun stuff that you need to help.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Go to a garage sale or go to a state sale.
You might be able to find a Christmas lights there.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Facts.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, I bought a whole case of Christmas lights one time.
At an estate sale.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Those are the best, are the best fines?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah, yeah, we'll replace some plants. I'm going to get
a greening resistance citrus. I haven't done that yet, and
and so I want to do that one that you
know is resistant, somewhat resisted, tolerant, I guess is the
better word. I think they'd like me to use Dana
Henrik Quality Green Specialists that he was getting some in,
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so I will make a contact with him again and
see when he gets some in there. Fertilizing container plants.
You know, there is a fertilizer ban on throughout much
of Florida, not all of Florida, but check with your
county agent and there's a fertilizer band saying you can't
fertilize landscape plants. But normally under that band you can
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still fertilize container plants, so check it out. You can
fertilize edibles also. So I'll be fertilizing my plants. I mean,
I just want to keep them going. I want them
looking good, and so that's what I'll be doing, repotting
lots of plants. I've got some that are root bound
and containers, so I'll be doing that, and I'm enjoying
my colius. And I planted coliers from seed, and you know,
(18:35):
I plant the seeds in March, and I had a
transplant ready to go in my garden by the end
of April. Eastman containers normally, and Colius is a coat
of many colors, as they say. And I got allfferent
kind of leaf patterns neat plants, and I can go
ahead and make cuttings now and enjoy them that way.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
So nice.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I love the colis. I'm growing most of my things
from seed. I'll be honest with he is getting so
I can't to buy things on the open market, so
I'll buy a packet of seeds and grow them that way.
That's why I'm doing my tomatoes and my peppers. I
have other reasons for doing tomatoes that way. Uh, And
I'll tell you later. But anyway, Uh, I just decided
to grow from seed. And now when I find the
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colias are flowering, they are. They bring in the pollinators also,
which is kind of nice and uh. And so they're
starting to grow seedlings from the bite base now out
of neat. Tell you what we're be coming back in
just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Here.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
We'd be happy to have your questions. You can give
us a call call Triple eight four five five two
ninety six seven protects Us two three six eight Oho.
I'm Tom of Coup and then we're coming to you
from a stomach Responsible Solutions. This is Fara Talk and
Entertainment Network. It's a great Saturday morning. We're happy to
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have you with us. Here are better launch and gardens
coming to you from the second Responsible Solutions Studios. What
are you going to do today? Well, when I get home,
I know I'm gonna be plenty of my tomato seeds.
I'll be doing that. I'm hoping to get back out
in the garden and got my rotatiller all fired up.
I ran out of gas. I was down there road
to tilling. I guess everybody does that. I don't want
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to know it's true, but I ran out of gas.
So what do you do? You go over to your
neighbor's house, and the neighbor didn't have any gas either.
So here I am might take off and I go
down to the to the station and get some gas
and bring it back. So now I've got gas for
the mower and also for a roadaotiller.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Now now, you're set.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I'm set. I want to remind her by the Kaladian
Festival next weekend twenty fourth, twenty fifth, twenty six, Lake Placid.
It's worth the trip, I will tell you. You can go
down there and you can take the ride. It does
cost you a little bit on the bus. And they
have a person who's an expert on commune kalladiums. And
we had doctor Hartman who developed that midnight oil which
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was kind of nice. And we went around the fields
and it was a father and Sunday, Jeff and I
went down and we had a good time doing that
and look at the fields, ate lunch there, bought a
few bulbs, and came on back home and enjoyed.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
It was really nice. And also that the midnight oil
that you were talking about.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Tom showed me and it almost looks silky and it's
black and if you look at at a right angle,
it has like hints of like red.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
In between eyes like yeah, wow, it's.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So if you don't rub it, you'll get your hands greasy.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
So you know, Teresa does like a haunted like a
theme for gardening sometimes that that would be something I
would think that you would want to plant. Yeah, and
to be black, and it kind of fits that whole thing,
you know.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I don't think it's gonna sell very well. Maybe I'm wrong,
but a curious gardener for the one who wants something different.
But I think that Sweetheart, which also gave you, is
gonna and Carolyn Wharton, it's gonna be gonna be selling.
I mean there's tons of cladings. University has three new ones.
I think they're going to be on display. Also, I
think if.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
They marketed it right, then they would actually sell. Because
I know that there's a famous tattoo artist and she
is into the whole black stuff, like everything being black
and gothic, and she actually does the black toolip. She
grows them at her little small city that she lives in,
and people come from all over the United States and
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other countries to.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Come see this. And so I'm thinking that if they
market this right, that they may be something different different.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, well, they're gonna have to work at it. I think.
Jean Reid wrote me here. She said she was looking
forward to the show. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Jean.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Jean and Don are old friends. I'll tell you on
them for a long time, their master gardners, and she
said they have three and a half acres. Oh, I
wish I had three and a half acres. I think,
I think I wish. But she says it's getting old,
but still getting out there, and they're growing Calabasa, calabasa,
cuban pumpkin. It's this big squash type thing, winner type squash.
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And so she loves them, and she says Gardner's great therapy.
I tend to agree with her, that's for sure. Do
we have somebody up on the line.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Here, Yes, we have Bev from Tally.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Oh, Bev, Hi, Beverly.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
How you doing, hey, Tom? How is you right?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Well? I don't know, Lizzie. How I look okay?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
He looks very nice.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
He looks very dapper. He looks like he's ready to
go out weedy.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
It looks like I just got up. As what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
No, my dog women business is dapper dogs. So that's
a good word.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Very good, very good. So what are you up to today?
How can we help you?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Well? I have a couple of questions. One of his
last year, I bought a giant petunia and it had
and the blooms were real big and so deep purple
that they look black. And it's kind of been dwindling
away a bit. And I wonder if a petunia has
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a lifespan.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yes it does, And you bought this last year. Yeah, boy,
you're lucky. Of course you're You're in Tallahasseee a little
bit cooler my petunias right now. I growing from seed
every year, and uh boy, they're gone. I have one
that's struggling. It's going to go on the compost pile
very soon.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But so you're lucky to have that, Yeah, Norman, they
give out within within six months. Anyway.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Oh okay, Well, I'm I'm gonna keep trying to pune
it back and nurse it along and maybe can I
can I if I take cuttings, will they be new
plants or will they.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Just be they'll be the same. If you can get
at the root from cuttings, you're lucky.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Can they do that? All right? And then I had
another question about you know, you've seen the pictures of
my ammarillist bead, but oh yeah, I have paper whites
and daffodils out there. I know you're lay not exactly
sure where they bloom because they go away and hide,
but some of them are heaving out of the ground. Okay,
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I've just put them in a paper bag. You know,
in some place it doesn't get a lot of sun.
But should I try and go out there and dig
up around the bed to see if I can find
the breast of them?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
No, I just leave them there. They should be fine. Yeah. Right,
And the ones if they're coming up out of the ground,
go ahead and put them back in the ground. They'll
be fine. You're lucky because you can grow the paper
whites and some of the daffodils, which is really good
in central Florida. You know, they're a one time show
at the best. But in the Tallahouse area you get
cold enough so that you're okay.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Oh that's interesting. And one more thing. I wanted to
commiserate with your neighbors that have three acres. We have
eight acres.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I know you got a big piece of property. I
wish I had something like that.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Well, I still love it, but I have to have
some help these days. Yeah, well with the mowing and stuff.
And for nine months we didn't get a drop of rain.
Oh so you can't burn anything.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
No, No, well, you're getting rain now.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Right, We're finally getting some rain. I'm glad, but when
it rains. I don't need to water, but when it
doesn't rain, it makes me get out there and turn
my beds on and move my sprinklers around. And I
ain't good about three or four thousand steps in just
doing that.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, well that's good. Yeah, keep you busy. I got
to run Beverly. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Okay, nice talking to you.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Nice talking to you too. My wife Joni used to
tell me I had all the property I can handle,
and I got about a half an acre and that's
about it.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Oh goodness, we got two and a half.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I know five, I'd like did you use step five
years old? Yeah? I would like to have five.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
It was great because back then that's when where we
actually had like we made it, had a self made
little pond and we would do like muddying events and
wonderful stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
But yeah, no tap to mow and take care of you.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
If a portion of it was woodlands, you know, kind
of trees and stuff like that, Naedi plants, that wouldn't
be too bad.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
No, no, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
But open land half in the mo a all the time,
that would be kind of a chore.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I think I'd had to invest in some goats.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, I'd like to have some goats. I don't think.
I don't think in my neighborhood that would be very popular.
And even a couple of sheep that would be good too. Okay,
I grew up in the farming community. You know, how
about a cow that would be nice. Anyway, we're coming
to you from Something Responsible Solutions Studio. This is not
the regular farm program, but it is Better Lines and
(27:42):
Gardens and this is as far as Talk and Entertainment Network,
and good morning to you. I'm Tom of Coven. If
you haven't figured it out by now, you're listening to
Better Lawns and Gardens. We're happy to have you with us,
(28:04):
and we'd be happy to take your phone calls one
triple eight forty five lawns or one eight eight eight
four five five, two nine sixty seven where it can
texts me at two three six eight. Oh right now,
I want to do Tom's top five vegetables to plant
next month, okay, And number one is the tomato. Well,
you like cherry and grape tomatoes. One like a sweet
(28:27):
million sweet treat. Those are all some of the good.
Sweetheart is another one, but I'll be planting my tomato
seeds today, so I'll be having transplants in about four weeks.
It's amazing during the summertime, they grow rapidly. Next of all,
we're doing peppers, and that's number two on Tom's Top five.
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I like the bell peppers. I know Lizzie likes the
hot peppers, but I like the bell and my favorite
bell pepper is better Bell. That's the name of it.
Developed by University of Florida.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
That's what I get all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
It is a good one, I will tell you, okay.
Number three on Tom's Top five summer squash, yellow or zacchini.
Maybe from time to time I will go with butternut
or acorn squash. The only problem I have with them
is that they are a little more bug prone. And
squash plants. You need to get ones that are downy
mail doing powdery mail do resistant. But we like our squash,
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squash and onions fried up together, mighty tasty. Number four
Tom's Top five bush snap beans not string beans. I
had a professor told me, he said, don't call them
string beans. I've spent my life breeding the strings out
of the beans so that they're snap beans.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Snap beans.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Okay, yeah, yeah, well string beans still have strings in them,
but most of them are snap beans now, so they
don't have the strings. And number five on my list
is corn. Now. I love to grow corn, and I
think I'm growing it for the squirrels these days.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
So I don't know at least somebody's getting I.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
May not play in corn, but I'm thinking here's the
extra out of Tom's top five. The extra one is candeloop.
I think I'd like to get back and get some
candle loop in the ground and see if I can
grow them and keep the pest down. The biggest problem
with candeloop is the pest they get into them, and
so they cause us all from kind of problems. Anyway.
Tom's top five tomatoes, peppers, summer squash, bush beans, snap beans,
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and corn. Let's go to the phone call. Just talk
to Polly in Ovido, Paully, Good morning to you. Hello, Polly,
are you there? We're giving Pollie what five? Four? Pollie?
Are you there? Let's go to Jerry. What do you say?
Jerry in Citrus? Jerry, good morning to you. Hello, Jerry,
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good morning. How are you doing?
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Oh good, you're doing fine out here? Wow?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, right now, I am yes.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
I got a couple of questions.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I have the.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Freedom BlackBerry Okay, I'm okay okay, and uh, I get
a nice crop of the on the floor cane in
the spring, and now I get a smaller crop and
the berries are smaller, and they're they're connects sort of
connected together or real close together. Okay, on there, what
what is the cause of that situation? What am I doing?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Okay? I doubt if you're doing anything wrong, it's probably
just some environmental conditions that are causing that. And just
just keep the plants growing, you're and they'll eventually grow
out of.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
It, okay. And the blackberries, uh will continue to do
that type of thing in the when they're in the
primal on the primalcine, yes they could okay, thank you.
And the other one you mentioned spinosa, Yes, the.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Lovers, Well, you know I have some reports that when
the lover grasshoppers are young, uh, spin those that does
have an effect on them, you know, so that would
be the lot of us days. So it may help.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
So is there anything better out there?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
You know, we're using just a regular products. The synthetic
pie reeth runs things like some of the Ortho products
and the bio advanced products, and they're probably the other
option you have, but you want to get them when
they're small. When they get big, they're really pesticide resistance.
We used to use the old seven, not the new seven,
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but the old seven, but used to work out real well.
But seven is still there and it's a synthetic pie reethroid,
so you might give it a try.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Okay, what's the old seven compared to the new seven?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
The old seven had a different insecticide in it and
it was good for chewing type insects.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Okay, they did a switch down.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, became less favorable. Okay, Jerry, you have a great day,
thank you. Okay, which one you want me to go to?
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Let's go ahead and take pinky real quick.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Pinky pinky, good morning to you.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Hey.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Okay, I have twelve raised garden beds and I go
I do veggies every year, but every time I try
to get a jump on seeds from a tomatoes, peppers,
anything anything that I try to plant, I developed legginess.
I don't have a greenhouse. I don't have a way
to put them outside because of the you know, the
heavy downpours that we get and the grow lights you
(33:26):
know in that.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Anyhow is they're on my porch right now, they're German eating.
Is there a setup that I can put out on
my porch to try to get them not get leggy?
Or is there something I can put them outside that
that alters the rain from downpouring on them.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Okay. What I have done thinking is, uh, they've got
to be outside. They've got to be in full sun.
So what I've done is taken clear plastic, put it
up on some tall something table or whatever, stretch it
over it, and then put the ceilings underneath that so
they get the full sun. They've got to have the
full sun. Okay.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
So I could take my arch cannel paddle or cattle
panels and lower them and do that too with the plastic.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Perfect Okay, anything like that where you can get the
full sun on the plants and keep them out of
the rain. I set mine outside and I'm just very careful.
If I know it's going to rain, I'll give them
a little more shelter. But they've got to have full
sun otherwise they're gonna get leggy.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
I got every year, every every spring and fall, that's
what they do.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Okay, that's what you need to do.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
I'll try. I will try the plastic.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Now okay, sounds good. We go in the poly now poly,
good morning to you. How can we help you today?
Understand you have wass?
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Yes, thank you so much. I've got they come back.
Every year I've lived in my house thirty years. I've
looked for a source. I don't find nests. They always
hover around the stucco overhang porch, but they come out
around ten in the morning, and now that it's so hot,
they will even stay till like nine until they leave.
And they terrorize me. I mean, they come after me.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
They know you're scared of me.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
So many things. I'll just tell you real quick. I've
heard to get seven dusts, but I can't find where
they're coming from. Yeah, and I also a pest control
guy said to clean the entire overhang, which I did
and then flatter it with original golden colored listering. So
I did that and it's doing nothing, and they just
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they're just coming back. And I'm wondering if if there's
any any suggestions.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Well, you know, there are wasp traps. You can buy them.
You can go up online there and the wasp will
come in there. They're they're brought in I guess by
the yellow portion of the traps, and they work well.
They work well, Lizzie says, they work well, so you
might want to get them, get a wasp trap. Otherwise
they're coming in for other insects. That's what was after.
(35:51):
They come in after spiders and all different kinds of
things like that. So if you have any of those around,
that's going to be part of the problem. But I
think in your case, the wasp traps may be your
best bet. And you if you have a picnic or something,
they suggest you set them out at the picnic table
and that will help keep them down. So does that
sound like something you can use? I'm sorry, I sound
(36:14):
like something you could use.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
Yeah, well, is there a name of one kind or
or where do you get it for me?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
It's just it's like any of the box stores that
carry and they kind of look like a cone like
they have like a plastic shell over the top of it,
so they'll fly up into it and then they can't
get out.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, you can find them at the pig box stores
and places like I'm sure Ace hardware stuff like that
will have them.
Speaker 7 (36:41):
Is it something that hangs or you put it on
the ground.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
You can hang it, you can set it on the
table any place like that where the wasp are bothering you.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
Oh geez, they're not coming after spiders are coming after me.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
You're their Tay Street right now. Yeah, well, sounds like
this might be something to work for you.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
Several years ago I got bit by three in a
row right at the same time, and it Wow, now
I'm petrified. But yeah, I got near a nest and
they got me twice on my.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
If you do that, it's terrible. Yeah, normally or no,
not that aggressive? Yeah, okay, okay, I hope it helps you,
Paul in that I care you know? Was it is
normally the palasis wasp, which is not not in aggressive
wass unless it has a big nest. My uncle used
to play with him. He used to put his hand
up near the nest and they wouldn't come after him.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Simply just maybe had that special that whisper or maybe
he's a wasp whisperer.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, maybe I don't know, or some fragrance. I don't know.
A real quick question here, I get Well, the Norfolk
Islin Pines recover and right now we're starting to make
the decision. I'm seeing a bunch of them that will
and a bunch of them it won't if they got
any green on them. There's hope that the Norfolk Island
pines will recover if they're totally browned out. Now, my
(37:57):
guess is you're not going to see the Norfolk on
pine in that spot. And you know, most of these
come from little Christmas trees that people bought, so when
Christmas comes around again, you can get a new nor
Norfolk Island pine. But Norfolk Onlin pines are really kind
of browned out, and there's lots of variations. Some of
(38:17):
them are alive and some of them have a little green,
and some of them are totally dead. So I think
we're going to be taking a lot of them out
in the future.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Here also Pearson's grocery textas and said that they have
seven dust and they have wast traps.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Okay, the seven dust. I don't know that there's the
old seven or the new seven. So it'll be there,
so you can ask Karen or Howie when you get there.
We're certainly happy to have you with us today. We
appreciate all of our sponsors. Black Cow Summit, Responsible Solutions,
Quality Green Specialists, Peterson's Nursery, and we'll look forward for
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the next hour. When Roy Levin joins me, we're coming
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