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January 29, 2025 15 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hanging out with Nick Ferguson Grant Smith behind the glass.
I'm going to get involved Texas on the Common Spirit
Hill text line five to sixty six nine zero break
song suggestion here from someone on the text line. As
we're kicking things off here and jumping right into it here, folks,
NBA Commissioner Adam Silver says that he would like it.
You'd be open to change in the quarterlink in the

(00:21):
games from twelve minutes as it currently is in today's
game to ten minutes. We'll start to the Rich eisenshow
where he had this.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Something else that I'm a fan of, and I'm probably
in a minority as we get more involved.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
In global basketball.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
The NBA is the only league that plays forty eight minutes,
and I would be. I am a fan of four
ten minute quarters. I'm not sure that many others are.
I mean, putting inside what it means for records and
things like that. I think that a two hour format
for a game is more consistent sort of modern television habits.

(00:57):
I don't think people in arenas aren't asking us to
shorten the game, but I think as a television program
being two hours, that's Olympic basketball as being two is
two hours you know.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
College basketball courses.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
But if you like it, I'd say it has kind
of a little bit of a push there.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, but it's such a dramatic change to the game.
I mean, I think something like that would have to
be talked more about over time.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
I mean, incidentally, but was dramatic, commissioner.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, No, I get it, And I don't know if
I'm a fan of what baseball did. I'm a baseball fan,
and I think some of those changes have really increased
sort of the engagement, the entertainment value of the game,
and so I'm paying a lot of attention to that.
And in fact, I've used you know, the pitch clock,
the sort of the increasing the size of the base,
et cetera.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
In meetings at the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
To say, you know, if baseball, which is more locked
into tradition and don't I don't mean that negatively than
any other sport. And part of what baseball provides is
the tradition, the legacy that if they're able to make
those changes, certainly we shouldn't be afraid to look at
change just as well.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Twelve minutes to ten minutes, Nick, I don't like this idea.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Tell me why you don't like it.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
I mean, okay, think about it. You're you're essentially taking
two minutes per quarter route, right, you're taking eight minutes
out of the game. They want to slow it to the
you known put it forty minute games, you know, puts
it over to the two hour mark on television. I
understand that, But isn't like the final two minutes of
a basketball game that's close. Isn't it more exciting? And
I understand that situation will still apply if you go

(02:29):
to ten minutes. I just think having twelve minute quarters,
you get that build up of the game right in
the first four minutes of the game, the first four
minutes of the second quarter, the first four minutes coming
out of halftime, the first four minutes of the of
that quarter is crucial. When you limit that to where like, okay,
you're doing it all that down. Now you got six
minutes for you know, your more crucial stretch of every

(02:50):
quart I don't like. I like twelve minutes. What are
you going to keep changing everything?

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Well, you change with the evolution of the game. And
like we talked about Jane Damins in the VR, I mean,
you see something being successful, you're trying to duplicate it.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
And there's always global expansion.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
You look at the NFL trying to get that global eye,
get to capture that global dollar. And the NBA has
done a fantastic job in that realm.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Well, they have been.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
The professional league that has dominated that. Think about the
number of international players who are now superstars in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
And I do like the ten minute periods.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
And the reason I like it because if you go
back to the Olympics and I think this is where
all of it's coming from, FIFA basketball and all of that,
it's sped up things, right, Teams didn't really have time
to kind of like just take a lacks of daisical lase,
a fair type of attitude. You got to get in,
you gotta get out, and you got to score your points. Now,

(03:53):
now I am for changing that just.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
To kind of speed the game up, make it a
little more entertaining. Because I've watched James Harden play. He
driveled out to damn klock right, I don't want to
see that.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Now.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
If you start telling me they're gonna start changing the
number of fowls, or if you're gonna tell me, well,
you're gonna take the NBA three point line and move
it closer like FEVA.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
I don't. I don't want that because we have too
many guys.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
In the NBA not playing fundamental basketball because everyone wants
to shoot three pointers.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
You see. I mean, you watch kids today play high Okays.
They're shooting it from half court still just because guess
who does that, Steph Curry, Damian Lillard. Here's my thing.
I'm gonna put on my collective bargaining agreement helmet right
I'm gonna be a negotiat. I'm on the player side here.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Oh you're on the player side.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
If you're going to make it to where we're playing
ten minute quarters, eliminate the season by fifteen games, produce
it from eighty.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
One, ye, hold on now, hold on now, hold on.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Producer from eighty two.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
I'm gonna do my Adam Sibber right now now, Cody,
I feel that I like what you're saying, but what
you're asking us to do right now, we're cutting off
our nose to spite our face. Because that's a huge
amount of money that we are going to be forking
over that we're used to having. So how we supplement

(05:16):
that that that revenue. How do we get over that. Well,
we're never going to beat the NFL.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
That's the one.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Okay, No, we're not gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
But not even the finals. We're not even gonna beat
the NBA Finals this year. Ain't even gonna beat Thursday
night football matchup between the Titans and the Jaguar.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
I thought I thought we own the Christmas right, I thought.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
We owned Christmas Day.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Not anymore. NFL has come in and say we want
on all. We got streaming, we got Netflix, we got Amazon.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
It's not but but with that Big said, you're trying
to take THEBA.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
No, the NBA is going to Amazon. So I means
there's more money for us, more money, better technology. We're
hoping to increase the peak interest of the game. But
in order to do that, most people don't want to
watch eighty two games to get to the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Okay, how about how about how about I do this
for you, Cody, since you are in this scenario in
favor of the players, all right, because what you were
telling me is that we're worried, you're worried about the
strain on the players.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yes, plus y plus when you have the Olympics and
you have feef from the summer. You're going straight from
a season into basketball, and then we're going into the
training camp and guys are already worn down. Look at
jo own beat. He's played four hundred fifty games, four
one hundred and fifty five games.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Okay, what if we go and grant you in on
this too.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
I don't know what side you're all on, the owner
side or the player side, But what if you say,
instead of going eighty two games, we go to ninety
games where we give you some more players.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
No, pointless, we don't need that. Well why not? We
don't need more players.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
You don't have to worry worry about that. You don't
have to worry about the sixth man. You have the eight, nine,
ten man.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
It's all about trust in our rotation. So now you're
telling me that I have ten minutes to work with
an expanded roster per quarter and trying to figure out
which rotations got the hot hended night when I'm trying
to figure out rules for guys that are.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Coming on with Wait a minute, See, that's your job
as a coach. That's what you got trade to catch.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
You got to put us in a position commissioner.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
I am getting I'm giving you an expanded season so
you can work all that out.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
See, that's just that's like what the NFL did, though.
You know what they did. You know what they did.
They say, you know what, we'll do that Like, if
you guys agree to this, we'll get you. You know,
it's gonna be like you guys could take part in
fast Times at Richemont High.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
By the way, Joel Embiid has missed forty seven percent
of the game since he's entered the NBA, So you
were not far off with your joking number there.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
I don't mind the ten minute quarters.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
I'm not against it, but I don't like the expansion
of more games because that means you're just gonna have
more games where the stars set out.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
But I don't mind the ten minutes.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
It's just like Adam Silver said the pitch clock in baseball.
I think as a viewer at home, it's going to
make you more engaged to tune into a game because
the product they're putting on the floor right.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Now is garbage.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
Like you said, jacking up all these threes, it's either
a long three point shot or a dunk.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Maybe with ten minute quarters.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
I feel like they have to be a little more
aggressive to start out, and they don't have as much
time to lolligag and not play any defense.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Here's what the NBA can do.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
So with sort of a game by by, you know,
with ten minute quarters, here's what you do.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
You have what the NFL has now, or you can play.
You can do multiple games in the night.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
So that increases exactly the NBA's revenue.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Because you're doing more games.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
There's less wear and tear on the guys, Cody, because
I know that that's your concern, right, that's part of it,
want less wearing tear.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
But I also think for consumer interest, I like, when
you know me, I'm on the NFL beat, right, So
for me, like when the NBA season starts up at
the end of October, I'm in the middle of the
NFL season. I'm not watching a single NBA game until
after till January, essentially same way really for the most part.
So for me, my thing be Okay, if you don't

(09:01):
want fifteen games, at least reduce the schedule to seventy
two games. Seventy two games, you reduce it by ten games.
We reduced the quarters to ten minutes. There we go
see ten and ten, we're playing with the magic number here.
I don't want that.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
And get rid of the NBA Cup please.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah that is courts. Yeah, the courts are horrible.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
And then it's a city edition uniforms are terrible.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah, and then it's kind of like a mid season
type of award. Does does a banner really mean anything?
Because the Lakers hung the banners, Like for.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
What I will say for the guys lower down on
the totem pole of the roster, it is a big
pay bump, pay bump if they can win. I think
it's five hundred thousand dollars or something per player, Like
that's a lot of money for someone.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Of those players are making a lot of money, more.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Than the NFL players show more guarantee. Yeah, all that
guarantee money.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Remember Brandon Marshall, don't be all right. Remember Brandon Marshalls
ran on iMac like, come on, Brandon killing me.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
But it's true though, I mean, they got a smaller roster,
they got luxury taxes, right if you go over right,
and then well you look at their benefits after they
retire them and baseball so much superior.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
Than NFL players and that magic word and all those
contracts guaranteed.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, that's a big, big difference.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah, so I'm not gonna share any tears for those
NBA players not an NBA cup, I'm not sharing any
tears for them.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
We'll go to our Comma Spirit Health text line here, Texas.
Is the worst part of the NBA these days is
that only like maybe ten minutes of the game is
actually interesting to watch. Okay, I agree with that.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Okay, so before you and Grant agree that, hey.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Listen, you don't start watching till you know, January, things
like that. But if you move from twelve to ten minutes,
you speed up the games so you have more games
that you can run on a nightly basis, but you.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Make the games more exciting.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Like did you guys watch in the I guess uh Olympics. Yeah,
Team USA both women, women and men against the French.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Teams are Team USA versus Serbia and Joker. That was
musty TV exactly.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
And you saw how spared up it was was because now.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
The really lower different games tho us feel like you
get in the nineties.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Okay, first of all, not the date myself, but you
guys know, I mean nineties basketball was where was that
like seeing teams score one hundred and forty four points
one hundred and thirty two points. Oh, that wasn't happening
back in the day because they're playing defense.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Those Michael Jordan Detroit Piston matchups where it'd be like
eighty five eighty four and Jordan.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Would have thirty five of the points. That was great basketball.
That's what I want, Commissioner. I'm gonna throw something else
in there. Make the game. Morris really come down hard
on flopping because it's still happening. We're still seeing it
at National correc So, so if we do.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
That, you know it's gonna happen. That means that Lebron
James has to retire.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Okay, okay, come on, many years.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I'm just saying he's like the flop master, Like.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
He's like Patan Mahomes went to Lebron James school of flopping.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, that flopping. Like, man, we get a great text
in here. On the text line allow full contact, no
more touch. Fowls raised the net by two feet, put
razor wire around the hoop to minimize dunking. But Ward
dunks with an extra point for black.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Put razor wire.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, have you seen there's a there's a guy on
YouTube that will put barbed wire all around the rim
and he has to shoot and he switches it every
time because it doesn't, you know, pops your ball. It's
pretty cool. It's a good way to.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
I'm not trying to watch extreme basketball.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
They already got slam ball. Listen to this one. This
is a great suggestion. How about making the current three
point line two points and everything inside three points basically
just switching around more points and better odds of making it.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
I like that idea because it forced more guys to
be more fundamentally sound.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Bring back that mid range jumper hitch was score sixty
points every night, him and him and Damar DEROZI.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Yeah, and Jimmy Buckets if you could ever get back
on the car.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Well, no, he's done. We're finished with Jimmy Buckets in Mia.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
You see the the meme going around roun now he's uh,
Jake Shuttlesworth, Jake, Oh, Jimmy Buckets.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
But this is what Adam Silver the conversations he should
be having with with with the PA, because finding ways
to make the game, more exciting, more pilling, because we know,
of all the professional sports, none of them have really
figured out how to hold a candle to the NFL
because the NFL produces drama.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
All the time. Oh man, how many games have we
tuned into? Even like terrible games between two teams are
like I don't really care for them, but in the
final four and a half minutes, it's it's a close game,
is high scoring. It's like, well, we didn't expect that.
Like Thursday night football widely has been awful, and there
were some really good games this year. There were some
really good down to the wire Monday night football games. Heck,

(14:04):
we saw one of Denver between Cleveland and Denver and
obviously the Broncos. That was unbelievable. We wouldn't have expected
that to happen.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
But see, based on the group that came up with
the schedules, they put a lot of those division games
at the back half of the season where you knew, hey,
teams were fighting and clawing to get into the playoffs.
But also the seeding was was big because now when
the NFL changed it, where there's only one number one seed,

(14:33):
there's no case where you get two teams with that
first round bive that changed everything.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
You know what I think would actually make a huge
difference here, right, if you're gonna reduce the game, you
know the NBA by ten games, right, I think that's
awesome you reduce it to ten minute quarters. I think
one of the things you can also see in terms
of where this game can evolve is the approach here. Okay,
what can we eliminate that's fluff? Right? That makes it
to where people don't want to watch the game? How

(14:59):
do you that? How do you police that? And how
do you make it to where you do keep guys first? Like,
that's where I think the game has to transition because
guess what's happening to the All Star Game? Nobody likes
watching it. I know that's the one thing I skip.
It used to be the most entertaining thing to watch.
Now it's just a glorified halftime shot. But send us
in your thoughts on the text line here at five
sixty six nine zero, we're gonna get into our NFL

(15:22):
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Speaker 4 (15:27):
Embrace Morber Vanessa Carlson's side of yourself.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
It's okay.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
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