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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome into it, Broncos Country. Tonight, I'm your guest host
Grant Smith, filling in for Benjamin Albright. You heard him
earlier on ka Wa sports being a wet blanket per
usual in here with Nick Ferguson. Nick, how are you tonight?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Man?

Speaker 3 (00:15):
I am doing swell. We got the television tool dan
Is for Nation Hockey. Let's get it all.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
We're ready to roll.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Man.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
I'm so excited for this game. I never thought i'd
be this excited for a hockey game in February, but
I'm pumped. Man. I'm like, I'm feeling patriotic a little
bit about it.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Oh yeah, your picks did sound loop.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I didn't pick Canada, picked Canada. Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards's
expected comrade Edwards, Yes, and Benjamin Albright the wet blanket.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
God darned, you're the only.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
True American that picked the USA to win.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I can't believe that.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
I mean, we live in a nation of i'll say
somewhat freedom, but I cannot believe those three guys actually
chose Canada.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah. I couldn't believe it either. But they are favored
by a goal in a half, which I think is
a lot but you know, if you're up one at
the end of this game, Canada is going to pull
their goalie and you're going to win by two.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Goals, well hopefully so I can tell you that when
they won the other night, a lot of my Canadian
friends known as that I played in the CFL still
stay connected.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
To certain people. They were not happy.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
They were not happy because I can tell you even
when I played in the CFL, there would always be
this conversation between American players and Canadian born players, well,
who was the best track and field athlete?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
And you know, obviously when you look at.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Carl Lewis and Ben Johnson, so many individuals Canadians would
always say, you know, their their their guys were the best.
Like wait a minute, it's not the same guy who
got busted from from juicing, so that doesn't country.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
We had a couple for the USA that got busted
for juc to too, exactly.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
But then it would always go back to hockey. Oh,
you guys in the US, you don't play hockey. So
with the US beating the Canadian team in Montreal, that
was a big.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Thing because that's the sport.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
That's like NBA team losing in Olympics, which we've seen
it over the years.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, but then we bring the best players out and
we don't lose anymore because basketball is American sport. It's
just like Canada hockey is Canada sport. But the USA,
I mean, we're good, We're athletes. I think we win tonight.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well, I hope so. I get that vibe, I get
that feeling.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
I'm just wondering if we're going to get a repeat
of what we saw in the first nine seconds the
first I.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Was just gonna ask you that. Well, first off, do
you think the people of Boston nobody more patriotic in
the United States than the people of Boston. Do you
think they bow the Canadian national anthem tonight?

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Darn right?

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I think listen.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
As a Yankees fan, I'm not a fan of anything Boston.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I greumb a Red Sox fan. Oh yeah. I got
to tour Fenway Park when I was like ten years
old with a guy that I knew from Rhode Island,
family friend. And then the year after I toured Fenway
Park and went to a game, they won their first
World Series. And since Babe Ruth left the team, you know,
the Curse of the.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Band the you come back against the Yankee Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
They were down three to zero in the series, came
back and won it and then won the World Series.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well, as a Yankee fan, I gotta say I love
that whole thing. Who's your Daddy? Who's your daddy?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
It was?

Speaker 3 (03:43):
It was, It was classic And for me, that's what
sports it's.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
About, exactly. Yeah, it gives me goosebumps just thinking about it.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
It is and the Ribberries Yeah, I mean when we
look at sports today, we don't have robberies as they
were before, like the and the.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Raiders at once. Once upon a time, it used to
be a rivalry.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Well, you were talking the other day with Ryan Edwards.
We were talking about the NBA All Star Game and
how embarrassing that was for the NBA. But you were
talking about, you know, Michael Jordan going up against the
bad boy Detroit Pistons. Man, what a great Have you
seen that thirty for thirty documentary on that on the
Bad Boy Pistons? Yes, oh it's great. It was a great,

(04:26):
great video, great documentary. But yeah, we don't have rivalry
except for I would say college football still holds on
to a lot of those rivalries.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
See that's why I love college football, right, because you're
dealing with kids fresh out of their parents' basement. Yeah,
it's just free, right, and they're just excited just to
be let.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Outside, maybe underage drinking for the first.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Time, probably, you know, but it's so exciting.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
It adds to kind of the lure of college football
and the rivalries. They really kind of bite in to it.
But when you look at the pros, you.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Really don't have it.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Now.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Maybe now, since the Eagles kind of towards the Chiefs,
maybe now that becomes a rivalry.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I don't know, man, I don't know. I think we
might have saw the end of the Chiefs this year.
The end not I mean for a minute. You know,
Tom Brady went what ten years between his Super bowls
with the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yeah, but I was like, maybe that was like almost
twenty years of dominance though.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, but I think I think there may be. I
don't know, if they make it to the Super Bowl
next year, I don't say.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I don't think they make it back to the super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
But the Chiefs, as long as as Brett Beach is
their GM.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
And Patrick Mahomes as their quarterback, all's.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Going to find a way to be competitive because they
know how to manipulate and take advantage of the salary cap,
which oh, by the way.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Just went up.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, two hundred and eighty million dollars.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Now they will be fine.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
But as a fan, and maybe I'm dating myself, but
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
But watching basketball in the nineties, it was so competitive.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
And there were like battles all the time, especially in
the Eastern.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Conference, well even the finals with you know, like my
some of my first NBA memories are of the Chicago
Bulls taking on the Utah Jazz in the finals and
that crossover shot for mj Over Russell like that that
was that was awesome, And those scores were like ninety
two to eighty six and stuff, you know, because people

(06:26):
were actually playing defense. Yes, and you can actually play
defense back then. You could get away with little four
arm check when someone was driving the lane. Can you
imagine how many points Michael Jordan would average in today's NBA.
He'd be like a fifty point a game score. Maybe
not that that's a little high stream, but.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Maybe they obviously maybe about forty five. Yeah, I mean
Zach seekers back there going like defense, they played defense
in NBA.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Well, you know, we started this conversation on rivalries because
we got the the final game between the US and
Canada going on tonight. Did you hear the audio of
the Kachuck brothers miked up after those fights the other night.
I have a little bit of it. It's a little
bit of the sound of the fights and then them
talking to each other while they're both in the penalty

(07:16):
box because Canada booed America's national anthem and then they
decided we're going to go fight some of these Canadians.
Here's a little bit of that sound asking each other

(07:40):
how their fighting skills were. They both looked pretty dark good.
I've heard those guys are just intense all the time.
They're like the Bash brother You remember the Bash Brothers
from the Mighty Ducks. Yes, yeah, that's who they remind
me of.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
But you definitely need that in a sport that is
filled with physicality.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
That's the nature of it.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
I mean when I was growing up, they just they
used to have a guy I think he was coined
the Enforcer. All those dudes did would just skate around
looking for something to get into.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
They got on the ice just to get in a fight,
just get in a fight.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
And I had to explain to my wife because when watched.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
The first game between Canada and the US, she was like,
wait a minute, they're letting them fight and I was like,
I was like yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
She was like, that's wrong. There's something wrong with it.
I was like, no, no, that's what they do.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
That's the culture of hockey.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yes, And I'm like she was like, at some point
the rest are going to stop it. I was like, yeah,
once you fall into the ice up, that's about it.
But those dudes were just.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
And when they stay on their feet for a minute,
because a lot of times you see the regular season
hockey fights and if someone takes a good punch, they
just go down and then the refs once someone hits
the ground, they kind of break it up. But these
dudes were holding onto each other, trying to stay on
their feet to get a couple more punches in. Like
this rivalry is real. And the craziest part to me,
and we're about to have the punch dr up here,
but uh, the craziest part to me is that this

(09:03):
game doesn't even really mean anything. This is where it
all start.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Wait, hold on, grand let me let me correct you.
I'm not a hockey savant.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
But I know this from my days playing in the CFL, right,
this got This game may not count, but this game
actually counts because it's bragging runs, it's pride, it's.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
US versus Canada.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
There are Northern brothers, right, but there's essentially a rivalry
there because.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Like like we look at our football game.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
As though we look at NBA, these were games forced
here in the States.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
So Canada they feel as though this is our game.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
How dare those nasty Americans try to come and defeat
us on our home turf?

Speaker 3 (09:47):
You know what it's like.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
It's like for Canadians. Talk to a couple buddies. It's
like they had all white furniture in their house and
you just came in with snow on your on your
boots and you just gotta put it.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
You didn't take the house. That's how they do. This
is our sport.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Speaking of snow and your boots. Got up to the
mountain today and got sting inn Yeah. I went to
winter Park for the first time this year. They've gotten
over two feet of snow in the past week. It
was insane.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Well, see you you can ski for you and I
both because I'm gonna get you up on the mountain. No,
I mean, if you get me up on a mountain,
I'll stand there and I'll look.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
But I'm not skiing now. No why I had two
knee injuries?

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Man, Well, we could put you on one of those
ski bikes. Have you seen those ski bikes? Yeah, whether
they have the ski blade on instead of wheels and
you get on a little ski bike and ride.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Down like something you put toddlers on.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Man, Well that's what you sound like right now, being
scared to get up on the mountain.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Listen, I'm not scared to get up on the mountain.
I just don't want to encur more injuries.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
That's fair.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
It's bad enough my body after ten plus years of
playing professional football, it's already beat the crap.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
I'm not trying to add to it grit.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah. Well, to be fair, my wife really got into
skiing last year, was starting to go on her own
first day out last season to our ACL see see
you're not here. It's made me a much more cautious skier.
I'll say I'll say that because I'm like looking around,
like who's going to hit me and tear my ACL?

Speaker 3 (11:19):
So?

Speaker 1 (11:19):
So, did someone run into her, someone hit her from behind.
It's just like the Cardinal sin on the mountain, Like
whoever's in front has the right of way. If you're
coming down faster behind them, you it's your responsibility to
get out of their way to dodge them.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Well, what happens if you are out of control obviously
going down.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
You and you are inexperienced.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Skier, do what Then You're gonna get yourself in some trouble.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
So how does that work?

Speaker 4 (11:45):
If someone runs into you and your wife's skates, it's
an aco injury and that's hospital bills.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
That's an expensive hospital bill.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
So how does that work?

Speaker 1 (11:54):
You don't realize how how crappy your insurance is. I'm
gonna strapped another word there. You see those hospital bills
rolling in, You're like, what does my insurance actually cover?

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yes, and get that deductive.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, we hit it. We hit it a couple times,
like we could have hit it a couple times over
but technically they're liable. But it was like a I
think it was eighteen or nineteen year old kid, had
no money owned, like a three hundred dollars car, had
no insurance paris right, Yeah, and they weren't much better.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
So see we ended up paying for another reason.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
See, you just you just kind of resolved this conversation,
the fact that you're never getting on the mountain, never
getting on there, because if someone could hurt me in
the ski lines, man, guess.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
What we got a bigger problems. Well more room for
me up there, okay, yes, more room for you.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
You know I said earlier how this game doesn't really matter,
and you made some good points as to why it does. PK.
Suban was talking on Get Up about how important this
game and how big it is for the NHL. Here's
what he had to say.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Well, the thickest part of the culture in the fabric
of our sport in high is the team aspect of it.
It's about the team, and no one's bigger than the game.
All these players understand that and understand that on this stage.
It's evident with the effort that they've come out and
put out in this tournament.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
So when I say that no one's bigger than.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
The game, the game has also never been bigger than
where it is today. And that's exactly the opportunity that
these guys have is to play for something that's bigger
than themselves. This is some of these guys have never
even played in the Stanley Cup playoffs. But the people
are saying that this game is bigger than the Stanley
Cup game last year and any Stanley Cup game that

(13:36):
we're gonna see this year. So it puts it into
perspective of the opportunity that these guys have and they're
ready for the moment the whole world will be watching tonight.
They're gonna leave it all on the ice. It's gonna
be a tremendous show. And I'm gonna tell you this,
buckle up, strap in puck, pack a lunch, dinner, breakfast
for tomorrow morning, whatever you need to do to get
ready for eight o'clock tonight, because it's all gonna boil over.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
It's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Man, I can't wait. And courtesy of Zach Segers, our producer, tonight,
he was listening into the national anthem and they let
off by saying the PA announcer said, please respect the
Canadian national anthem. Rocket booze.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Well, I mean the Canadian PA announcers said the same
thing in Montreal before a thunderous amount of booze. Well,
this just tells you that this is bigger than the game.
And like you know, PK said that, it's not even
about the idea of saying, okay, you want a Stanley Cup.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
It doesn't compare. Just listen to this.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Well, I think we just caught the tail end of
it and the ten Canadians there were cheering.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
But this is this is this is huge.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Man.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
No Stanley Cup compares to this. And I'll say, you
could be a player that's won two Stanley Cups.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
It's not the same.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
You think this is more important than the Stanley Cup. Well,
the reason an exhibition game, yes, because.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
It's it's an exit.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
If it was an exhibition game against Sweden, doesn't know,
it doesn't matter. But because it's against Canada. And I'm
not saying that because of the political stuff going back
and forth between the two countries, but it's just because it's.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Canada and it's to the United States.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Even if everything was fair between the United States and
Canada at this moment from a political standpoint.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
It wouldn't matter because it's think about it.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Do you have older brother yep, okay, and you're competitive
to get your older brother.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Oh man, I remember the first time I beat him
at basketball, and how did you feel. I felt great
until he punched me.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Wow, he punched you.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
He punched me and shoved me into the hoop. He
was so mad that his little brother beat him a basketball.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
How they shove him even to the hoop.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
So we had like a metal pole. Ours was in
the ground and metal pole. And he took both of
his hands and shoved me in the back while I
was getting the last rebound and hit me like I
went straight in face first into the metal pole.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
So your brother's a sore loser, oh big time. But
but you still had one up on him.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yes, once again, bragging rights forever. Yes, And I don't
think he ever beat me again.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
See see, And that's what it is it's like to
the United States.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
I mean, Canada is a big brother in regards of hockey,
right right, So if you beat your big brother, and
you do it twice and once again you beat your
brother in front of his family.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, tell your dad about that, right, chance to say.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Say talk about it in that particular way. So it's
a it's a big deal. And a lot of these guys,
like PK said, they will go through the NHL career never.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Experience what it's like to be on the Stanley.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Cup maybe never even play in the playoffs, never, but
this lives forever.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
What was the movie with the miracle win American teams
and ice that lives on and a lot of the
guys who were I mean obviously were younger, not born
during that time.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
They talked about it.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Before the first game about how much they watch that
particular movie.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, there's one other comment from PK Sube and that
he was comparing the NBA and NHL All Star Game.
I'm gonna play this and then we'll react to it
on the other side with Rick Lewis coming up after
the break. But I thought this was a great point
from him on the differences between the NHL and the
NBA and the All Star events.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
The hockey is a different sport from the NBA. You
can't compare the cultures because of the way the game
is played. You can step on an NBA floor and
go through the emotions. You can't do that in hockey.
You can't like the culture of our sport. You have
to play it with passion. You have to be willing
to fight, you have to be willing to leave it

(17:56):
on the ice. That's what fans are investing in so
for us, when we charge fifteen hundred dollars for a
ticket to come to Furnite, fans know what they're getting.
Cal mccarr, the best defense in the world, wasn't in
the lineup for this game. This was the most viewed
game that we've had in years, and you see it.
It's because it's not just based on the skill and talent,

(18:18):
it's based on the pride, honor playing for the guy
next to you. I got a question for the NBA players,
what the hell are you playing for?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
What are you playing for? It's not about the money
you make all the money.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
What you're injured, Well, there's a difference between being hurt
and injured. Are you hurt or are you injured? There's
a difference in hockey. We play hurt, we play injured.
That is the culture of the sport. It's always been
that way. So you want to talk about the business.
The CBA fans get all of that, But what do
fans resonate with. They resonate with what's real. You got

(18:54):
to fight sometimes for your country.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
You got to compete. You got to go out there
and leave it on the ice.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
Because those people are paying the price of admission so
fans know whether our stars are on the ice or not,
they're getting their money's worth.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
The NBA has that issue that they got to work on.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
You got to create a better culture for your players.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
It starts with the leaders. This issue is.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
There was no issue in Jordan was around, there was
no issue in Kobe was around. There's no issue in
Sydney Crosby is around. There's no issue in Wayne Gretzky
was around.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Because those are true leaders.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
They lead by example, Sidney Crosby, Hockey Canada, those players
both Canada and US. It was the players that did
that for the Four Nations.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
It's not the league.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
The league set it up, but the players went out
there and decided and said, you.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Know what, boys, we're all in. When is the NBA
going to do that?

Speaker 6 (19:41):
Because you know, I haven't sat down and watched the
NBA consistently since Kobe.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
We'll react to that sound from PK. Sou Band coming
up here in just a little bit with the one
and only Rick Lewis your Broncos color analyst, Puck just
about to drop in the Four Nations Final. We'll keep
you up to date on that as well. I'm Grant
Smith filling in for Benjamin all Bright alongside Nick Ferguson
will be very back on KOA four one FM News
Talk Sports Canada scores the first goal of the Four

(20:14):
Nations Final, but just over lining it was Colorado avalanchees
Nathan McKinnon. We'll had that right to the hot line,
the Common Spirit Health hotline and bring on the Broncos.
Color analyst Rick Lewis, Rick, are you watching this Four
Nations Final tonight?

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:30):
What the funk? Canada just went up one to nothing.
We're just about five minutes into the game. Yeah, so
they get off to the fast start here tonight. And
this is fun though. Man, this feels like Stanley Cup
Final type hockey. And both of these teams are really
into it. The fan bases are really into it, and

(20:53):
I think part of that is because these guys are
playing for their country. They're not necessarily playing for a team,
They're playing for their country. So I think there's a
lot of pride that goes into that and it showed
through this tournament. This has been great.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, it's been an unreal and we had Tony Maynus
from our news department come in during the break and
we couldn't hear the national anthem and here, but he
said there were a couple a tiny little bit of
booze for the Canadian national anthem. But he said, right
after the Canadian anthem, there was just a huge USA
chant throughout and then they brought out some opera singer

(21:30):
who just nailed our national anthem. Did you get to
hear it?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah? I did, And yeah, the USA fans way more
respectful than the Canadian fans were on Saturday. I was
glad to see that because this is a very respectful game.
You know, these guys, these people that play this game,
you know, they're good sports. They have a lot of
respect for the sports. They have a lot of respect

(21:56):
for the teammates, the fans, and their opponents. So I
was glad to see that the USA took the high road.
You know, we were way classier than Canada was on
Saturday night in Montreal. It was good to see that
there was a smattering of booze at the beginning, but
not a whole lot too really, I think really had

(22:18):
any effect on it at all.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
To put this.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Foreign nations kind of match up in perspective.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Brett and I were talking about it before you joined us.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Like you, when you think about it, if you were
one of the guys on either the USC or Canadian team,
would you say that winning this particular game would be
more meaningful than winning a Stanley Cup championship.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
You know, I don't the Stanley Cup. You know, hockey's
about the Stanley Cup, and that's been around for a
long time. This means a lot to these guys, as
I said earlier, because they're playing for their country in
this tournament. There's been only four countries in the world
that played in this but these guys are playing for

(23:05):
the country here tonight, and that's a big deal. But
the Stanley Cup is the biggest deal in hockey. I
think we could all agree on that. And there's nothing
more intense in sports than a game like this, a
hockey game. I think it's the most intense sport out there.
And Nick, you may disagree. I put football second behind

(23:28):
hockey because occasionally you'll see guys take a play or
two off in a in a football game, and in
the NBA, you know, they don't play defense baseball, they
jog out you know, ground balls. They don't even run
them out but in hockey, these guys are doing fifteen
second thirty second shifts. Every second of that shift is

(23:49):
one intensity you cannot afford to just go out there
for your ship. They kind of cruise through it. So
in my opinion, hockey is the most intense.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Fur Well, I would agree with you from this perspective
because there's ford checking involved, and there's things legally that
you can do and hockey that you can't do in
other sports.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
And the only other sport that I.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Would say that you would be able to bring certain
I guess from similar physicality is maybe MMA, where if
you knock a guy out, you can run a punch
him in the face before the official actually stopped it.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Why And because yeah, hockey is the only sport that they.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Allow you to fight, right. It's part of the woven
fabric of hockey. So I'll say from that standpoint, yes
it does.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
But what do you think about this aspect?

Speaker 4 (24:40):
What you mentioned the NBA, and we just watched the
All Star and we didn't see or we're not traditionally
used to seeing a lot of drive and physicality. Guys
are really you know, into the game itself. Do you
think that the NBA as far as All Stars, should
do something similar to the fore Nation when it comes
to the All Star weekend in the game that they play.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, I saw you posted something about that on X Today,
and I think you made a great point. They need
to do something with the NBA All Star Game, and
I think they need to do something with the NBA
in general. It's almost become unwatchable for a lot of people.
The ratings have really tanked, and they've been down for

(25:24):
a long time. And so that's why Number one, that's
why there's a lack of interest in the NBA All
Star Game. They're just a lack of interest in general
for NBA basketball. But yeah, they could certainly punch it
up by doing something like this. Is kind of like
the Olympics basically, you know, because there's a lot of
European players playing in the NBA that I think would

(25:46):
make it a whole lot more interesting if they if
they did something like this. And I know you played
football in Canada, Nick, did you did you ever play
any hockey? Have you been on skates at all?

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Man, I grew up in Miami, Miami, So answer that question.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Cab and Capitol.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Oh Ricky played some hockey in your day though, right, Well.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
You know, I grew up in Detroit, and Detroit it's
a big hockey town. You you get, you're on skates
as soon as you can walk. I remember skating at
like three years old. Yeah, and I'm talking. I'm talking
hockey skates, not figure skates, Nick, I'm talking to the
real thing. I'm out there three years old, skating on

(26:29):
frozen ponds, and everybody did that. And I figured when
you were in Canada, maybe somebody who would go, hey, Nick,
you want to go to the ice drink and put
some skates on and and you know, try to learn
how to skate. But it's kind of something if you
don't grow up with it, it's, uh, it's not easy
to adapt to being on hockey skate. In fact, hockey

(26:51):
skates is you know, is a great neutralizer, uh, in athletics.
Like you and I could go out on hockey skates
tomorrow and I could I could slam you right into
the board and there'd be nothing you could do about it.
And you're a great athlete and play the Attational Football league,
So it's a great neutralizer for athletic ability.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Well, here's what I would do ray.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Like, I'm used to being on like like four skates,
like roller skates, not not that single blade. So what
I would do using my football acumen, I would try
to come.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
In low and take your legs out. That's what I
was trying to do.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
On roller skates. Or are you talking hockey skates?

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Roller skates? Hockey skates. I'm gonna go back to what
I know best.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yeah, because you're you're you're world class competitor. Yeah, then
we'd have to duke it out on the ice.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I would I wouldn't pay to see that eight.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, you wouldn't have a chance on skates.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
See, That's why I would say, Okay, well I would
play your game on the single blade skates, and then
I'm like they we're going to go to the forest
skates and road blades.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yes, Rick, we were talking before you got on about
how this USA Canada match up tonight reminded us of
the miracle on ice and I, of course was too
young to see it happen live. But you growing up
playing hockey, what are your memories of that that Olympic moment?

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, it was incredible. I'll never forget. I still remember
watching that final game and where I was when I
watched it. What really sticks with me is the call
by al Michaels. Al Michaels just killed that call, and
I think al Michael's you know, certainly one of the
greatest sports announcments of all time. But that's what really

(28:40):
put al Michaels on the map was that game, and
al Michaels came out of that as a superstar in
a broadcasting. He's still in the game, which is hard
to believe, you know, still calling NFL games. But yeah, this,
this does kind of remind me a bit of that
type of energy. Although Russia was the best team in

(29:03):
the Olympics by far, so it was a massive upset
that the USA team was able to beat them. Now
these two teams here tonight are equal in Canada, maybe
even might have a little better team, I think than
the USA team, But it's comparable, I think to a point.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Well, Rick, we didn't talk any Broncos, but I think
this has certainly taken center stage tonight, and we'll hit
some Broncos next time with you. But before we let
you go, remind people about your next show with your band,
The Rick Lewis Project.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, man, it's coming up a week from Saturday, March first.
We're going to be at the Wild Goose Saloon in
Parker and it's a reunion with my band in the
Freddie Jones Band, we played the first concert ever at
the Pepsi Center back in nineteen ninety nine, and it'll
be so cool to share a stage with them again

(29:58):
at the Wild Goose. I heard that's a great music club.
It's a ticketed show, twenty five bucks for general admission.
You can get a table if you'd like as well.
Showtime eight o'clock. Go to Wildgoose Saloon dot com and
get your tickets. I'm really looking forward to this one.
Thanks for letting me plug it of course. Man.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
I've heard that's a great music venue as well, and
I'm sure you'll get a great turnout, as you do
for all your Rick Lewis Project shows, especially with the
Freddie Jones Band on the bill as well. It's always
fun chopping it up with you, Rick. Enjoy the rest
of the hockey game tonight, and we'll chat with you
next week.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, Nick, we're going skating, Come on.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Man, no, we not.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Thanks a good Rick, all right, guys, take care. That's
your Broncos color analyst Rick Lewis oh Man gives me goosebumps.
Do you have any memories of watching that game or
since you were down in Miami you didn't even care
about hockey at that point?

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yeah, you seen.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
The movie though, right, I've seen the movie.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
I was pretty much more to G I Joes than
into hockey at that time.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
So no, but I've said, seen the movie.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Is one of those movies that you show when you're
trying to get you your players whatever kind of really
up for a particular game. And to me that that's
a great thing about sports and why why fandom is
a huge part of it. And I know why you
attach fanatics to fandom, and everyone loves to see their
team win, no one, No one loves the loser. But

(31:30):
when it comes down to the country, I don't even
care if, like, like on an Olympic team, you may
be a Lakers fan, but you don't like the Boston Celtics.
You're going to root for Jason Tatum. Yeah, it's like
we're playing on one given team. So it's just this
whole theme. But four Nation is just for me breaks
down even more the idea of fandom and how crazy.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
It could be man, It's been an intense battle so far,
Canada still winning one nothing And we had to play
that clip because Rick lewis our guest in the last segment.
Reference the al Michaels call on how it kind of
made him a legend in the business. And thanks again
to Rick, our Broncos Color analyst for joining us in
that last segment. Get your tickets to his show with
the Freddie Band Freddy Jones Band on March first at

(32:14):
the Wild Goose Tavern down in Parker. I'm Grant Smith
filling in for Benjamin Albright here on Broncos Country Tonight
in studio of course, with Nick Ferguson. Nick, what are
you thinking about this game so far? I see you're
pretty locked in on it, you.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Know what I am, And I didn't think that I would.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
I didn't think you were going to beat us into
it yet because this is.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Not like, you know, the sport that I grew up with.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
But just to see players, you know, Canadian players who
played for American teams playing for the country and vice versa,
playing in this game and wondering when those teams go
those players go back to their respected teams.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
What is it going to be like, yeah, are you
gonna be able to just like bury the hatchet or
is there going to be some bad blood or we're
gonna have to like see some trades because two guys
got in a fight in the Four Nations final and
now their teammates again. You know what you just kind
of how would you handle it as a former player, Well, I'm.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
Gonna handle it the same way that I will handled
with my brothers growing up. You're like, you're gonna have
some fights, like my mom would always hate, you know,
tooth and tongue kind of fall out.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
But they need one another, right.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
It's one of those types of things you fight, But
at the end of the day, you remember when you
put on your respective teams uniforms and hockey whatever that
was in the Four Nations that's gone. Now we're playing
for whoever we're playing for, and now we're trying to compete.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
We're brothers again. We're brothers even though we hated each
other last week.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yes, I mean no one said we got to hang out.
We just we're just playing hockey together. That's it.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Hey, trust me, I know, and you know, having brothers
growing up, you're gonna have your fair share of fights,
so we are going to talk some football. Coming up next,
We've got our guy, Ryan Michael's joining us. He's got
an interesting article up on our website KOA Colorado dot
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great stuff recently about the forty greatest quarterbacks of all time.
I think some Broncos fans are going to have some

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