9/4/26 - The Dan O'Donnell Show

9/4/26 - The Dan O'Donnell Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Openly calling out and putting a target on the back
of the lone holdout juror who would not go along
with the other 11 who wanted a not guilty by
reason of mental disease or defect, an insanity defense today,
and instead was apparently holding out for a guilty verdict.

(00:21):
What he said outside the courthouse today was frankly reprehensible
and has been going on for years in politically charged cases.
We are going to get into that, plus a blowout
jobs report heading into the Labor Day weekend as the
Trump administration smiling. Wisconsin, though, headed the wrong way when

(00:44):
even a left-wing group puts out a study that says
Wisconsin is lagging badly in job growth. You know it's
a serious problem under eight years of a Democrat governor. Also, Wisconsin,
according to another study, number two in the country for
brain drain. those two things are of course related we

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get to both of them in the four o'clock hour
coming up in the five o'clock hour as a result
of that the economy not doing nearly as poorly as
democrats would hope it is and republicans just being seen
as the same alternative to the increasingly unhinged increasingly socialist
leaning democrats Republicans are in a much better position than

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you might think they would be heading into the midterm elections.
Jam-packed Friday afternoon show. Hopefully most of you are already
out enjoying your Labor Day weekend, and we will get
you out to the lake, out to the cookout, out
to the fantasy football draft, whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
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Speaker 1 (01:50):
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Speaker 2 (02:08):
And if you miss a single second.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
If today is foray into broadcast excellence or let's face it,
broadcast competence, please do check out the Dan O'Donnell Show
podcast on iHeartRadio or wherever you listen to podcasts. No
real surprise today, after a third day of the Lindsay
Clancy jury sending a note back saying we are impossibly deadlocked,

(02:32):
this time saying, unfortunately, we are never going to get
the one holdout juror to be convinced that Lindsay Clancy
was not criminally liable for killing her three young children.
Judge William Sullivan was forced to declare a mistrial. I
said Judge William Sullivan was forced to declare a mistrial.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Members of the jury, at this point, I'm going to
declare that.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
The jury is deadlocked, and I'm going to declare a mistrial.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
These things are not all that common. In fact, there
was a brief one-hour pause so that the defense, Kevin Reddington,
the appeal to the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court, he was
looking for an emergency stay of that mistrial declaration because

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he wanted that one holdout juror actually booted off the
pool and then an alternate juror picked to, since the
alternates also hear the evidence, you actually do not know
whether you're an alternate or whether you are actually going
to be on the jury. Typically, there are three, four
alternate jurors. You never know throughout the duration of a trial,

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especially one as long as the Clancy trial has been
pretty much all summer. Oftentimes jurors will have a sick
kid or a parent will be hospitalized or they themselves
will be injured or something like that. So you always
need some alternates. Reddington was adamant that the one juror
who he believed was preventing Lindsay Clancy not from walking free,

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but from being remanded to a mental health facility instead
of prison for the rest of her life, that that
juror be struck. Now, this has led to some heated
moments in court, but it was after court today that
Reddington truly gave me chills regarding what he was saying

(04:33):
about somebody who was just doing their civic duty, knowing
full well just how much attention this trial has gotten,
just how hard opinions are about it, just how, frankly,
unhinged some of the people are in their defense of
Lindsay Clancy. First of all, he opened his remarks to

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reporters by saying Lindsay Clancy, who both parties stipulated, brutally
murdered her three young children in was a wonderful woman.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
I'm representing a woman who is a fantastic, wonderful individual.
This woman is so brave, so awesome. Every day she
came in this courthouse, stood tall, no pun intended, the

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poor thing is in a wheelchair, as we all know,
for the rest of her life, and sat there through
Seven weeks of a trial where nobody had anything bad
to say about her except for the two prosecutors and
apparently Tim Cruz.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Tim Cruz would be the district attorney who was not
actively trying the case.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Really?

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Nope.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Nobody said a bad word about the wonderful person who
murdered her three children. So there's clearly a little bit
of delusion there. And every defense attorney is, of course,
going to speak glowingly about their client when they do

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have a job to do of sort of continuing to
try the case through the media. And that's exactly what
was going on here, because this case is, of course,
not done. Prosecutors will determine within the next couple of
days and weeks whether they're going to retry this case.
My guess is that they're probably going to do so. However,

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they are going to open up plea agreement talks almost immediately.
Lindsay Clancy is not a free woman. She is going
right back to the mental health facility where she has
been since she killed her three young children back in
January of 2023. So it's not like she is going
to walk free Excuse me. She's going to roll free.

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You can see how Reddington, he did. You know, it stinks.
I'm not trying to make light of it, you know.
But seriously, Lindsay Clancy cannot stand tall. Okay, I did
it again. That time was intentional. I was trying to
make a joke. I'm not trying to.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Oh, will you? Will you?

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Will you stop? My producer, Dave Michaels. is saying, are
you going to come crawling back now with an apology?
All right, we're going to stop with the jokes. This
is actually a very, very serious, serious issue, all right?
So Tim Cruz is the only person who's saying a
bad thing about Lindsey Clancy. Well, Tim Cruz, the district attorney,

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the prosecuting attorney here who was not, again, actively trying
this case, there were two prosecutors, but he held a
press conference today And instead of talking about what a
great person the murderer of the three children is, said, look,
let's not lose our focus here. This is all about

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justice for three beautiful little children whose lives were cut
tragically short by a monster.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Our priority has always been to fight for Cora, for
Dawson and for Callan.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
The noise in this case may be louder than.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
It is for other prosecutions in our county, but we
have treated it the same as any other case. Children
were murdered, and it's our job to seek justice.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
It is also the job of the judge to oversee
the trial, to rule on matters of law, to instruct
the jury. And it is the role of the jurors
themselves picked among the peers of Lindsay Clancy at random
to serve in a truly incredible capacity. We have in

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the system of an American jurisprudence a very unique in
terms of human history system in which Everyday ordinary people,
not a king, not a sovereign, not a judge, at
least not in jury trials. There can be a bench trial,
but ordinary citizens from all walks of life, the peers
of the accused, hear the evidence and they go behind

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closed doors and they determine guilt or innocence. Their identities
are shielded so that no one can intimidate them.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
No one can influence them.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
No one can use outsized media coverage to whip up
the frenzy of.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
A mob against them.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
But that is exactly what Kevin Reddington did this afternoon.
In fact, while he was talking about his wonderful client,
Lindsay Clancy. she made it that he made explicit reference
to the one holdout juror who is apparently a man
we're not entirely sure how he knows this i think

(10:00):
it's pretty apparent. And remember, he was in trial. People
are saying, oh, you know, this this crazy woman who
is taking pictures and video of the jurors. She is
trying to, you know, put a target on this. No,
I think Reddington could clearly tell which juror thought she
was guilty. And it's one of the three men involved.
I told you, I would have eaten my shoe if

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the holdout juror who thought Lindsay Clancy was guilty was
not a man. If it was one of the women,
it just, when I saw nine women on that jury,
I thought, okay, very, very likely that you're going to
get an acquittal by reason of insanity. Reddington actually said,
after setting up Lindsay as the real victim here, actually said,

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She was robbed by this man.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
She was robbed of justice because a juror.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Picked from among Lindsay Clancy's peers believed that she was
guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I am stunned at this comment.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
Is Lindsay ready for a second trial?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Lindsay is very, very, very strong. She is a very,
very intelligent young woman, very emotionally invested, and just a
tragic woman. She's a classic example of a tragic person.
Her life is a tragedy. And she was robbed by
this man.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
She was robbed by this man. She was robbed by
this man. He didn't stop there, though. He said the
other jurors who he has to know, this guy is
older than Whitey Bulger, for goodness sakes. And yes, he
did make his bones defending members of the Boston Mafia,

(11:48):
the Irish mob out in Massachusetts. He clearly knows what
he's doing. He said the jurors, the other jurors who
are going to be seen as sort of folk heroes
in the shockingly large.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
pro-Lindsey Clancy community.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
This, folks, I have had a real issue with the
entire true crime genre, making a murderer, which I was
unfortunately intimately involved in, Serial, the podcast that sort of
started this whole thing. I got my favorite murder, all
of this. People think that they can solve the case, forgetting,
of course, that these are not characters on a TV show.
These are real people. Well, people who sort of hide

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behind the anonymity of the Internet or sometimes will, just
like this self-described true crime junkie Dawn Light, who was
arrested and faces serious criminal charges of juror intimidation for
going into restricted areas and trying to film the jurors,
I think with express intent of trying to figure out
who this holdout juror was that cost Lindsay, that that

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robbed her. Redington is also saying the other jurors were
robbed because for six, seven weeks, they were hearing this evidence.
They took time out of their lives. Their lives were
consumed by this trial. And now it's all for nothing
that this one man robbed them as well.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
They know that they were robbed by one man for
whatever his agenda was, who stole seven.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Weeks of.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Of the life of these other jurors that were so attentive,
so beautiful, so wonderful. And listen to this evidence. And
you can see how defeated they were sitting there. And
I got a funny feeling that they would have gone
on for another week if they had to. So I
hope that guy can sleep well at night.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Oh, really?

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Why wouldn't he be able to sleep well at night?
Mob attorney Kevin Reddington. Is this just sort of what
we do now? When there are politically charged cases in
America like Derek Chauvin, we just sort of bow to
the mob that we just sort of if the trial

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doesn't go the way we want. And frankly, I think
the trial did actually go the way that Reddington wanted. No,
he didn't get the verdict he wanted, not guilty by
reason of insanity. But I think it's a very long,
long odds. that you're going to see another protracted trial
and that you're going to see another case against Lindsay

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Clancy go to a verdict, that there will be a
trial just to put pressure on her defense in order
to try to take a plea deal in which she
probably is going to serve some prison time but then
go right back to the mental health facility. I am
shocked and frankly disgusted by this because we saw– Justice

(14:52):
be perverted in the Chauvin case. Fortunately, here in Wisconsin,
in a very, very prominent self-defense case, you might remember
out of Kenosha, there was a literal, literal mob going
after Kyle Rittenhouse. The jury, fortunately, wasn't swayed. by the

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social justice braying crowds demanding Rittenhouse's head on a spit.
Thank goodness justice wasn't perverted in that case. In the
Chauvin case, it clearly was. Do you know one thing
that you were never allowed to learn about the George
Floyd case? Do you know they called an ambulance immediately?

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Do you know why the ambulance could not get to
why paramedics could not get to George Floyd? because there
was such a big, increasingly violent crowd that was getting
very hostile filming and screaming at the officers who were
trying to subdue the struggling Floyd, that the EMS technicians,

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the paramedics decide, hey, this is too dangerous.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
We can't park the ambulance.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
We need to, they circled around like three times around
the scene before they were finally able to get that.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
The mob, ironically, may have cost George Floyd, his life.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
In any event, when we have mobs that are called
upon to, and I don't think there is any other
interpretation of what Reddington was saying or what the discourse
has been online surrounding this case, then it has gotten
to a point where if The side that is aligned

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with the politically more liberal.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Conclusion doesn't get its way.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
There are open threats of what exactly– well, he didn't
specify what. I hope he can sleep at night. That
is language that is so inappropriate for an attorney to
ever say. I mean, I would be– if I'm the
Massachusetts State Bar, I'm looking at disciplinary proceedings, knowing full

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well that the eyes of the nation, the eyes of
the world were on this case, how heated the rhetoric
has been online, on cable news.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
In the courtroom?

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Outside of the courtroom? You just had a woman attempting
to video the jurors.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
Why?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
To get the guy's face out. What happens when he's identified?
Because he's going to be identified. And he cost Lindsay Clancy,
a good, wonderful person, so much.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
So much.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
And occasionally inside the gallery in that courtroom where Lindsay
Clancy was being tried, you actually heard her defense attorney,
Kevin Reddington, after a mistrial was declared today, put a
target on the back of the one apparently male juror
who held out saying, no, I don't care what you
other 11 jurors think.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
She was guilty.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
She clearly, and by the way, after reading as much
of the available evidence as I possibly could, that's the
same conclusion I come to. The dispositive evidence for me,
meaning the evidence that is basically the end all and
be all of the case. This dispositive evidence is that
which proves beyond any.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Doubt the matter discussed.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
The dispositive evidence for me was the fact that the
first time she heard the voice commanding her to kill
her children, the first time she ever was hearing voices,
which is sort of a classic example of a psychotic episode,
was while she was killing the children. She only heard

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the voice, and yes, it was a male voice, just
so we're aware. Why was it important that it be
identified as a male voice? Because the attempt has always
been to sort of absolve Clancy of blame through this
real backhanded way of saying our patriarchy here in America
does not understand the suffering of women who give birth

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and have to raise children, and we don't understand postpartum depression.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
This is true. We don't.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Postpartum depression does not cause you to slaughter your own children.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
It does not.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
That is what's known as postpartum psychosis. It is very rare,
and Lindsay Clancy was never diagnosed with it. In fact,
she was doctor shopping. She was hiding the fact that
she was on very serious mind-altering drugs from various doctors
who were then prescribing her different drugs that were interacting
with the drugs she was already taking. There was something

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very serious going on that to me has always signaled intent.
It has always signaled that she wanted to kill the children,
that she had a logical thought process. That she knew
what she was doing was wrong. She sent the husband
out for errands, knowing full well it was going to

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take longer. She was checking up on where he was
so he didn't come back early and stop her from
killing the children.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
And it was only that.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
When the husband was out and she was actively engaged
in the murder that she heard this not female voice.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
It was not her voice.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
It was not some disembodied, you know, alien like or
demonic voice. No, there's a male voice commanding her to
get like she wasn't responsible for her actions because it
was the male dominated society that drove her to such
insane criminality.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
That is the narrative.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
That the defense was portraying, and that is the narrative
that has cropped up on social media. And now, now,
why is it so important that Reddington, why is it
so telling, and why is it so damning and dangerous
that Reddington was saying, well, this man, this one man
out of the 12 who robbed Lindsay of the diagnosis
of the verdict that she deserved, robbed the other.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Jurors of seven weeks of their lives. It was a man.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
He expressly said over and over this man, this man,
he is stoking the gender animosity. Just as 30 years ago,
the OJ defense team sickeningly got a man acquitted of
double murder because they played into the racial biases of

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the all black jury. You have an overwhelmingly female jury.
You're playing to the sympathies of an overwhelmingly female and
overwhelmingly liberal in Plymouth, Massachusetts, jury base who can be
convinced that, yes, it is the patriarchy. And this ultimately
is what we have been talking about on this show
with respect to the socialist mindset, that there is no

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individual accountability. There is no individual autonomy. You are perpetually
a victim of an oppressive system. white, heterosexual, Christian, capitalistic society.
You are therefore, if you are not white, not Christian,
not heterosexual, and you are a victim of capitalism, you
are not therefore responsible for your actions, no matter how heinous.

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This is sort of the dichotomy on which the come
out and say, this man robbed her. This man robbed
all of.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Us of justice.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Because he looked at the evidence. The presumption was that
he looked at the evidence and said, well, he was abusing.
He didn't understand.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
He willfully rejected the standard, the reasonable doubt standard.

Speaker 7 (22:37):
What?

Speaker 1 (22:39):
It couldn't possibly be that he looked at the exact
same evidence as the other 11 people on that jury
and came to a different conclusion and said, was so
convinced that He could not be moved from that.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
He had absolute certainty.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
In fact, today, before the mistrial was declared, Reddington and
the judge, Sullivan, got into it over Sullivan's instructions to
the jury to go back and to say, look, here
is the reasonable doubt standard. This is the standard by
which you have to try this case. Jurors, Reddington was
yelling at him because he didn't say it forcefully enough.

(23:19):
This is actually sort of a lighter moment, although it
was a tense one in court this morning.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
I would ask that you not just give them, as
I described it yesterday, a soft inquiry. Will you listen
to my instructions? I would ask that you specifically direct
their attention to proof beyond a reasonable doubt and re-instruct
them on that forcefully.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
I think I did that yesterday, didn't I?

Speaker 8 (23:42):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (23:43):
You did it yesterday.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
You did it soft.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
You didn't do it forcefully. What do you want me
to do? Get a brass band?

Speaker 8 (23:51):
I read the instruction as written by the SJC.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
The fact that I perhaps.

Speaker 9 (23:57):
Didn't give it my full inflection, I'm sorry about that.

Speaker 8 (24:01):
I'm not an actor.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
I've just given the instructions. I love the Boston accent.
What do you want me to do? Brass band? What
do you want?

Speaker 1 (24:10):
You could just see both of those guys in Southie.
Going at it. I gave the instruction. How you like
them apples? Jean Cesares is a longtime trial reporter.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
She's very, very good.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
In fact, I used to be on court TV all
the time way back in another life.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I was covering some trial. Wasn't the Stephen Avery trial
as well before? Oh, it's the Mark Jensen trial. Mark Jensen, remember,
he poisoned the wife and the wife. wrote a letter
that was discovered after she died saying, if anything happens
to me, Mark did it. If I'm dead, I'm not suicidal.
Mark killed me. Well, there was a very serious constitutional
issue here. Since you couldn't cross-examine the victim of the murder,

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can that be admissible as evidence? So I was on
Court TV. I was actually on Jean Cesare's show many times.
I find her to be very, very good. What she
reported today on CNN, where she's working as a correspondent there,
via one of the CNN producers who is in the
courtroom as the mistrial judgment was read, is also pretty

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disturbing because one of the producers noticed how visibly angry
and just, well, listen to this, the reaction of the
female jurors who were incensed that the one male holdout
would not change his vote to not guilty by reason

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of insanity.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
It's not like they were going insane themselves.

Speaker 10 (25:42):
I can tell you from our producer in the courtroom
that when the judge said, I want to tell you
all how proud I am of you, there was one
female juror that was nodding her head no as he
was saying all that. Another female juror clenching her hands
into fists saying, as she was sitting on that chair.

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All of the jurors were extremely tense. One female juror
would not even open her eyes. Her eyes were gazed
down in her lap. Her eyes were closed as the
judge continued to talk to them about what this final
decision was. Another juror just nodded her head the entire

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time he was talking, and another female juror was pursing
her lips.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
I really feel bad for that one holdout juror because
every man has been there before.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Maybe it's the wife and her sister. Maybe it's, you know,
the mother-in-law.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Maybe it's your own mom who always seems to take
your wife's side on everything.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Looking at you, mom, like my mom. No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
But she does always take my wife's side. It's actually
kind of remarkable. I've got the Trump card, though.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
You know why?

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Because her mom, my mother-in-law, Grammy, I know a lot
of you have gone on the Dan O'Donnell show trips.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
You know her very well. She always takes my side.
So it's good. It balances out. But they were all
pursing their lips. They were all shaking. Why are they
so emotionally invested in this? I get it. This was six,
seven weeks of your life.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
But it's because clearly they understood that this was to
the anti-patriarchy feminist left this was about way more than
just an insanity defense this was just about way more
than the legal definition of criminal intent and criminal culpability

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that this was actually about an indictment of american society
which it always ends up being and this is why
i Ultimately, it is so dangerous when you have got attorneys,
when you have got people in the media who are
openly stoking these flames, knowing full well that there are
crazy people, one of whom was actually arrested outside of
a restricted or inside of a restricted or outside of

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the the jury room. taking pictures and videos of the jurors.
What possible reason could there be? A loyal listener on
the Carpetland USA Flooring Center talk and text line reminds me,
remember MSNBC during the Rittenhouse trial was formally reprimanded because
they were following the jury bus home as they were

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dropping off jurors at their house, presumably with the intent
of trying to interview them after the trial to get
a big scoop. I guess I'm giving the benefit of
the doubt where it probably shouldn't be given here to MSNBC.
But when you have got these high profile, just incredibly
divisive cases, when you are openly appealing to the mob,

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when you are openly appealing to just wildly disproportional emotion
to these cases. It is a dangerous mix and it
is insanely dangerous for our system of justice. And dare
I say, to borrow a phrase from the left, it
is dangerous to our democracy. Another big court bit of

(29:08):
news here in Wisconsin involving probably the most well-known green
bay packer right now that's coming up next year on
the day then it already has been even though a
mistrial was declared today and there's probably not going to
be any movement towards a retrial before the end of
this year how do i know that because during an

(29:30):
oval office executive order signing today president trump weighed in
on the clancy case and called it a horrible tragedy It's.

Speaker 8 (29:39):
Hard not to follow it. I followed it pretty much.
But it's a shame. It's a horrible tragedy. It's a
horrible tragedy. I see what's happened. And it looks like
it's a hung jury. And I think the judge just
said it's going to be a mistrial. I assume there's
going to be another trial. It's a terrible situation.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
Look.

Speaker 8 (29:59):
She did a horrible, horrible thing. Can't be worse. But
you'll find out what the price to pay is. There'll
be a price.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
It's going to.

Speaker 8 (30:08):
Be mental institution or jail or something. But I guess
they're going to go through another trial.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
It's too bad.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, it really is too bad because now the people
who are pro-Lindsey Clancy will see.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
And this, again.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
is going to be folded into this sort of overarching
narrative that exists on the socialist left that it is
never your fault if you are seen as being in
the victim class if you are a woman you are
in the class of people held up by the left
is being victimized by capitalism as being victimized by America.

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And it's only natural that you would go so crazy
that you would murder your three children in cold blood.
This honest to goodness taken to its logical conclusion exposes
this entire mindset as being utterly insane. She is either
not responsible or criminally liable for her actions and because

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she was not in possession of her faculties such that
she had no idea what the difference was between right
and wrong and had no earthly clue that what she
was doing was wrong.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
But no, in this sort.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Of iteration of morality, morality exists based on your belonging
into a particular demographic group and other members of that
group will stand in solidarity with you no matter how
heinous your actions are, no matter how reprehensible of a
human being you are just because they want to stand

(31:46):
united against the patriarchy, united against systemic racism, united against
predatory capitalism.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
But it all comes from the same basic place.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I wonder how many dudes are standing in solidarity with
Packers running back Josh Jacobs and as he is charged
with two misdemeanors stemming from a domestic dispute back in May.
He has just moved to have his initial court appearance

(32:15):
rescheduled from November 17th to next Thursday, September 10th. He's
going to appear at 11 o'clock at the Brown County Courthouse.
Why do you suppose he wants to move that up
as quickly as possible? almost certainly because he's going to
take a plea deal and he wants to get his

(32:36):
NFL punishment out of the way as quickly as possible.
He was placed on the commissioner's exempt list, which means
he's not allowed to practice with the team. He's not
allowed to play in games. He's not allowed to be
at team facilities. He basically is sort of not a
member of the Green Bay Packers right now while the

(32:57):
case is pending. He knows he is going to face
a suspension. It's either going to be four games or
six games, almost certainly. The idea here is that you
get it out of the way as quickly as possible.
The Packers signed a running back. Is it Caleb Johnson?

Speaker 9 (33:13):
Is that it?

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Oh, they trade it. What did they trade?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Like a sixth round pick? Yeah, 20-28, sixth-round pick, that's right.
For the running back, and he and Marshawn Lloyd, who's
very talented but just can't stay on the field because
of injuries, are expected to split time until Jacobs is back.
Jacobs has been sort of banged up himself in training
camp when he was actually allowed to practice. So the

(33:36):
idea is that you move this hearing to three days
before the Packers' first regular season game against Minnesota, you
are potentially... able to actively engage in plea negotiations to
get this thing wrapped up with the brown county district
attorney's office you plead guilty to one of the charges

(33:57):
the other one is dropped notably neither charge has a
domestic abuse enhancer here in wisconsin we do not have
a separate charge for domestic violence If you are charged
with battery and it's battery to a spouse or a
child or something, a prosecutor can add a domestic violence
enhancer on it. It's sort of Wisconsin's way of saying, yes,

(34:19):
we believe that this is an extra serious crime. You
beat up your wife. He did not get any domestic
violence enhancers. And his attorneys in their initial statement after
he was charged just a couple of weeks ago, even
though the incident happened in May, it took a long
time for these charges to come out. They made particular
note of the fact that he is not charged with

(34:39):
domestic abuse. He is not charged with domestic abuse. And
the reason for that is to signal to the NFL
to create a record that you cannot suspend him for
the full six games, which is sort of the standard
punishment for a domestic abuse incident. Instead, we want four games.
What is clearly happening here is Jacobs is trying to

(35:00):
get those four games to be the first four games
of the season. It's a win-win for him because he's
able to get fully healthy. The Packers may not need
him for the first four games, right? He's available for
the stretch run. Now, the NFL is probably going to
be keen to get this over with, and I swear

(35:21):
I am not intending a pun here, but it's a
significant black eye because there have been very high-profile domestic
violence cases involving NFL stars. Weirdly enough, a number of
star NFL running backs Kareem Hunt with the Kansas City
Chiefs about eight, nine years ago. Of course, the very
famous one, Ray Rice of the Baltimore Ravens. He knocked

(35:42):
his girlfriend unconscious in an elevator as it captured on
a surveillance camera. This apparently was on video. There apparently
is a video of this that both prosecutors and the
NFL have seen.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
I just wonder, though.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Are there any men who are standing in solidarity with
Josh Jacobs? Why is Josh Jacobs not a sympathetic figure?
Is it not possible that the girlfriend drove him to it,
that he was just he was he was in a
temporary insane state because she just got him so mad?
Why is it that we are only able to believe

(36:21):
that a woman can be capable of murdering her three
children only because she's The man who didn't do enough
to help the woman had a nanny, for goodness sakes.
The point is that Josh Jacobs is not a sympathetic figure.
Josh Jacobs is not engendering any widespread men's rights movements

(36:44):
to say, this is so unfair. Men can be accused
and charged with domestic violence-related crimes with the flimsiest of evidence.
This is just not right. It's not just we stand with,
nobody is standing with Josh. Even people who drafted Josh
Jacobs as their number one running back in fantasy and
are super ticked off right now, they're not standing with

(37:07):
Josh Jacobs because everybody knows, at least everybody understands, people
who understand morality know that what he is charged with
is a very serious crime. that there's no excuse for it.
There's no societal excuse. There's no, well, the woman drove
me to it or society or feminism or the American system.

(37:30):
What if he said the increased feminization of America drove
me to shove my girlfriend and snatch her phone?

Speaker 2 (37:40):
He'd be laughed at.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
And for good reason, we'll get to the daily Trump
date coming up next year on the Dan O'Donnell show.
I know tomorrow and Sunday are going to be pretty good.
There might be some rain in the morning, but I'm
seeing a lot of sunshine. Today we had a heck
of a lot of rain. In fact, I had an

(38:01):
impromptu half-hour show. I was going old school, going back
to the 9 to 11 shift, because Jason Gotch, our
fantastic midday host, who if you're not listening to, you
really should. He does a fantastic, just a wonderful job.
I listen to him when I'm out running errands. No

(38:22):
diss to Ben Yount. I hear Vicki a lot because
I'll be in here. She's on right before I come
on at 3 o'clock. I don't hear Ben a lot
just because I'm not out and about before about 9 a.m.
That's when I usually do a lot of work early
in the morning, get the kids ready to go off
to school. So I was actually pressed into service. There

(38:43):
was a massive clap of thunder, and I'm assuming– lightning
took out what like what exactly happened we're not exactly
sure uh dave michaels is doing double duty he was
producing jason's show as he normally does and he's now
producing my show because what half of the staff i
think we are the only two human beings left in

(39:05):
this building since 9 a.m dave says we're the only
two people left in this building well i was in
early to record a couple of commercials and just drop
off some stuff i had stuff to do i was
planning to you know, run some errands. I just stopped
off here and Dave comes flying into my office. Can
you be on the air right now? We just lost

(39:27):
Jason's feed.

Speaker 8 (39:29):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Why not so i did an impromptu half hour as
that lindsey clancy news was breaking mistrial declared today uh
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(39:55):
the United States economy appears to be doing great, Wisconsin's,
that's an entirely different story. Two big studies just out,
one out today from an extremely liberal group. saying it's
rough out there for job creation in wisconsin after eight
years of governor evers now today labor department shows a

(40:19):
blowout absolute blowout jobs report we'll get to that in
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Email DOD at iHeartMedia.com, at Dan O'Donnell Show X, Facebook, Instagram,
Dan O'Donnell Show Podcast on iHeartRadio, or wherever you listen
to podcasts. President Trump signing a significant executive order today
that is supposed to make things much, much easier for

(41:06):
America's cattle ranchers and farmers. It's an executive order that
allows them to basically bypass what had been significant regulations
on cattle. basically treating their own cattle. You'll have to
forgive me if it sounds like I'm vamping a little bit.

(41:28):
I completely lost the ability to play sound bites, and
I was trying to get that back. Here's President Trump
on his executive order.

Speaker 8 (41:35):
Today, I'm thrilled to announce that my administration has taken
historic action to help our nation's great cattle ranchers and
deliver American meat process to the highest standard. There will
be no standard higher in the world and sold at
the lowest price. prices directly to the consumer. Ranchers and

(41:55):
farmers have always been a number one priority to me.
They like me, and I like them. Based on the
results in the election, they like me a lot, and
I like them a lot. They work hard, they're smart,
they're efficient, and they are very clean people. They're immaculately clean.
That's what we're talking about. But for years, I've heard
that they have a problem with the big processes. You

(42:18):
have basically four massive companies that process the food. And
they have to bring it to these processors, and it's
a monopoly, I would say. So I've heard all about it.
I've been listening to it, the big processors. And they
say they're a very nasty group, very difficult to deal with.
And they cost our farmers a lot of money, and

(42:39):
they cost our ranchers a lot of money, and they
cost the public a lot of money and grief. And
we're not going to let it happen any longer.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
In that announcement today, a group of farmers and ranchers,
including Wisconsin's own Joe Thomas, Badger's great NFL Hall of Famer,
offensive lineman with the Cleveland Browns, Brookfield central legend, and
now one of America's and Wisconsin's great farmers. Included in
today's Supporting America's Ranchers executive order is a provision on

(43:13):
the gray wolf. which directs the Secretary of the Interior
within 90 days to determine whether gray wolves actually meet
the standards set in the Federal Endangered Species Act, its
recovery criteria. If they do, well, then the Secretary is

(43:33):
instructed to begin the delisting or downlisting process, which means
you would be able to once again hunt wolves.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Gray wolf.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
So this does not immediately delist them. We have been
debating the gray. I have not really been too involved
in this debate, but this is a longstanding debate. There
was a 2022 court ruling that restored significant E S
a protections to the gray wolf. The other wolf, the

(44:05):
Mexican wolf was impacted by this order today. The one
that impacts us of course, is that the, species of
wolf that we have here in Wisconsin, especially northern Wisconsin,
the gray wolf. I really haven't waded into this debate,
but I know farmers, ranchers, people who deal with gray
wolves are saying, hey, wait a second, the wolf population

(44:29):
is doing just fine, thank you very much, and they're
making off with a whole lot of our calves. We
need to be able to protect our herds, we need
to be able to protect.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Our livelihoods, and this ruling... This protection, which isn't needed.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Is significantly hindering our ability to do that. The big
news today, however, is the Labor Department August jobs report,
which was an absolute blowout. There were 162,000 jobs created
last month, double what analysts were expecting. Now, this suggests

(45:10):
that the economy is a whole lot healthier than we
have been led to believe. Non-farm payrolls, according to the
Labor Department, rose by 162,000. Private sector employment, 120,000.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Government, 35,000.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Now here, I need to actually inject that it's remarkable
that we are getting the non-farm payroll numbers that we've
been getting over the last year, because what the Trump
administration has also done is a systematic effort to dramatically
reduce the size of the federal government. Not only has

(45:49):
there been a dramatic reduction in the number of illegal
immigrants in this country, we talked about that at length
yesterday after a new Center for Immigration Studies report came
out showing that Net migration to the United States declined
by about 3 million. We're expecting an even bigger number
when the formal census figures are out. And it's not

(46:13):
just at the end of the year, the end of
the decade, rather, that census figures on migration come out
pretty regularly. But the estimation is that there is a
significant reduction in the number of migrants, especially illegal migrants,
in this country. Trump has also engaged in a massive–
it started with Doge, but after that was believed to

(46:37):
have petered out– and this is where the Trump administration
is just so incredibly effective– when nobody is paying attention
to what it's doing and the libs aren't freaking out
and basically throwing their bodies in front of ICE agents
in Minneapolis, for example, or when they're not suing to
stop the elimination of every redundant, wasteful program that we have.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
So Doge went in.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
And identified billions, if not trillions of dollars in waste,
fraud and abuse. Identified hundreds of thousands of positions that
could be easily eliminated. And the Trump administration has. In fact,
the estimation. is that this is the single biggest reduction

(47:27):
in the federal workforce since the 1990s and possibly even
farther back. There are 250,000 to 278,000 fewer federal employees
than there were in January of 2025 when Trump took
office for a second time. In spite of that, in
spite of that massive reduction, and who is the biggest

(47:50):
employer in the entire country?

Speaker 2 (47:52):
It's the federal government.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
When you count our military, when you count the civilian workforce,
we have a massive, massive, massive government that has contributed
to a massive, massive, massive national debt. Trump is attempting
to do something about that. And the jobs numbers continue
to be very, very good in spite of the fact

(48:14):
that government jobs, which sort of buoyed the Biden and
Obama era job growth numbers, the dramatic expansion of government
under Obama and Biden led to, I would argue, artificially
inflated jobs numbers because the government can simply hire at
taxpayer expense people anyone that it wants for whatever salary

(48:38):
it wants, creating jobs that have no earthly business, actually
doing anything except or existing, doing nothing but push paper around.
So what happened today is even though governments, and this
is government at the state level, at the local level,
the county level, even though there were plus 35,000, the

(49:00):
private sector non-farm jobs number of 127,000. is a big
deal not only that the July numbers were revised to
a gain of 21,000 jobs originally we had a report
of a 23,000 job loss. The unemployment rate holding steady

(49:24):
at 4.1%. Labor force participation rate was up. We now
have 61% of working age people employed. That is a
massive number. That is a phenomenal success. We are seeing
Trumponomics working. The only thing that continues to hold it

(49:46):
back is the perception and the reality that prices are
way too high. They are out of whack. who has
been actually following this issue, knows why. Because we had
insane inflation for the period of two straight years immediately
after Joe Biden took office and injected an unnecessary $ 1. 9

(50:07):
trillion in the nation's economy that created inflation and just
put prices completely out of whack, even though inflation gets
under control. The year-over-year inflation rate can be back down
to 3%. Prices are still rising. And when you see
a dramatic price shock, but they're still because so many
people are working, because wages are okay, even though people

(50:29):
are dipping into their savings, causing significant personal financial strain,
because they're going deeper into credit card debt, because there
is still demand for products.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Prices aren't going down anymore.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
People are proving themselves willing to pay the artificially inflated rate.
Not only that, because of the artificial import of 5, 10,
15 million illegal immigrants into this country in a very
short amount of time, we saw massively increased demand. This
was the classic recipe for inflation. And yet somehow Trump

(51:04):
is being blamed because gas prices are high today. because
of the war in Iran. And we are made to
believe that, and I'm not going to dispute that. Yes,
gas prices are higher. It is an undeniable fact than
they were a year ago. That, that is, that is,
you cannot refute that, but to blame the massive price

(51:28):
increases that took place from 2021 to 2024 on Donald
Trump is ludicrous.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Now I can illustrate that.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
The difference between Republican economic stewardship and Democrat economic stewardship
pretty easily because while the nation continues to add jobs
at a pretty strong clip, Wisconsin is not. And even
a liberal UW-Madison think tank is noticing. That's coming up

(51:59):
next here on the Dan O'Donnell Show. The story from
the Heartland Post. A long-running Labor Day report from one
of Wisconsin's most liberal economic research groups says the state's
job market has stalled after eight years of Governor Tony Evers' leadership,
even as the rest of the country has flourished. The

(52:20):
High Road Strategy Center at the University of Wisconsin-Madison released
the State of Working Wisconsin 2026. The center is an
explicitly left-leaning think-and-do tank, it calls itself.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Think and do. See, they don't just think, they do
as well.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Of course, they want higher minimum wages, more unionization, more
public investment. Classic liberal think and do tank. That makes
its latest findings notable. After eight years of a Democrat governor,
the group's own data shows Wisconsin lagging the nation on jobs.

(53:03):
In July of 2026, the nation had gained jobs, right?
We just said the jobs total revised upward, 21,000. This month, August,
blowout jobs number. The state, though, has lost jobs. The state,

(53:29):
in fact, lost about 9,000 jobs from November of 2024.
Since January of 2025, the state has lost jobs, according
to the findings in this liberal group's report out today.
While national employment has continued to grow, Laura Dresser, the

(53:51):
report's lead author, associate director of the High Road Strategy Center,
told Wisconsin Public Radio today, job growth has ground to
a halt, and though wages hit a new high in 2025,
high inflation is undermining workers' wages in 2026. The report

(54:12):
still shows some very bright spots, but the clouds are
gathering on the economic horizon. Now, the report itself is
even more blunt in its assessment of the state of
the state's economy. Researchers found, quote, Wisconsin's economy has grown
slowly relative to the national economy for years, and now

(54:35):
job growth has ground to a halt. From February 2020
to July 2026, Wisconsin added just 2% more jobs compared
with about 4% nationally. Manufacturing remains weaker than before the pandemic.
Only construction and leisure and hospitality have outpaced national growth. Now,

(55:00):
because it is a left-wing organization, what do you think
the conclusion is that we need to do to get
things moving again with job growth?

Speaker 2 (55:09):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
You've got to raise the minimum wage. The number one
thing that you can do to depress job growth and
actually cause job losses is to artificially inflate what employers
have to pay their workers. If the workers are not

(55:30):
worth more than $ 7. 25 an hour, and this sounds incredibly harsh,
I know, If an employer cannot remain profitable, and remember,
it's not just the consumer price index that has gone haywire.
It's not just consumer prices that have become increasingly out
of reach.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
For the average person. It's also the producer price index.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
It also costs more for the people who make the
things and who provide the services that the consumers actually consume.
So if it is no longer profitable and the biggest cost,
almost invariably for every employer in Wisconsin and across the country,
across the globe, is in fact the cost of labor.

(56:14):
If all of a sudden government says, well, labor costs
need to be much higher for a market that can't
bear it, for a business that can't afford it, well,
then hiring slows down.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Hiring stops. Layoffs happen.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Businesses go out of business. They also think it should
be easier to unionize. We need more workers unions. I've
never understood. I always thought one of the biggest oxymorons
in the English language was liberal economist. How can you

(56:50):
study the economy and still believe what liberals believe about economics?

Speaker 2 (56:56):
It's sort of like socialism. Like, how can you continue? Oh, Krugman.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Producer Dave said, Paul Krugman is just a perfect example.
How can you possibly, how can you be so phenomenally wrong?
All that he was actually the one who said back
in 1995 that he predicted the internet would be no
more transformative than the fax machine. How can you be

(57:22):
that wrong? How can you just so fundamentally misunderstood? It's
not just that it's, Fundamentally misunderstanding market forces. And this
is where I say it comes back to that same
mentality with Lindsay Clancy.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
It is an emotional response. It is a.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Knee-jerk desire to blame capitalism, to believe fundamentally that capitalism
is inherently predatory because capital can neither be created nor destroyed.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
It's sort of like energy, right?

Speaker 8 (57:49):
Wrong, wrong.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
You can create capital. You can create entirely new industries.
It's not that when you make a dollar, you are
forcibly taking it from someone else. Someone is giving you their–
the only entity that can forcibly take your money outside
of like a stick-up.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Artist is government.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Apple gets my money because I want the new iPhone.
I am willingly giving Apple. It is not exploiting me. Well,
of course, the argument is, well, the labor, the human
capital is being exploited. Well, when you have stagnant job
growth under eight years of Tony Evers, you also get
this finding. August 2026 analysis by the nonpartisan Wisconsin Policy

(58:39):
Forum finds Wisconsin has the second worst unemployment net brain
drain in the country, trailing only North Dakota. Using census
data from 2024, researchers compared adults 31 to 40 after
most college-related moves, but before retirement moves, and found that 59.8%

(59:02):
of Wisconsin-born people in that age group who now live
in another state hold a bachelor's degree or higher, versus 4%.
people born elsewhere who moved into Wisconsin, a 14.6 point gap.
You know, the last time Wisconsin was this bad? It

(59:22):
was after nearly eight years of another Democrat governor, Jim Doyle,
in 2009. The state ranked worst nationally at minus 15.3 points.
It's almost like Republicans in charge of the nation's economy,
things are going great. Democrats in charge of the state's economy,
job growth badly lags the rest of the country, and

(59:45):
everybody moves out because there are no opportunities because Democrats
are hell-bent on on combating and not expanding the private sector.
You're listening to The Dan O'Donnell Show.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Are banning the use of flock cameras citing concerns about privacy,
concerns about constitutionality? And this is a significant blow to
a company and a law enforcement tool which, when used properly,
can be and has been Very, very effective, but has
become incredibly controversial in large part because of misuse in Milwaukee.

(01:00:24):
A Milwaukee police officer was charged with misusing the flock
camera system to essentially stalk a romantic partner as a
result of that. Earlier this week, Milwaukee's Mayor Cavalier Johnson
came out with significant new restrictions on the use of
flock cameras. Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley, of course, the
Democrat candidate for governor, said.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Me too, me too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
I've also got significant restrictions on flock because his opponent,
Republican Tom Tiffany, is cracking down even harder. It's remarkable
how successful Tiffany has been in getting the populist, getting
the 80 percent position staked out and forcing Crowley to

(01:01:08):
defend a much, much, more nuanced and, frankly, much more
controversial position. He did it on data centers, and he's
also doing it on flock cameras right now. I mean,
Crowley can say all he wants. Oh, yeah, I hate
flock cameras. He was for mass surveillance in Milwaukee County.
Sheriff Christopher Schmeling, though, today, putting out a statement. Schmeling

(01:01:34):
is a very conservative sheriff, very, very good sheriff in
Racine County, saying the Sheriff's Office entered into an agreement
with Flock with the understanding that information collected by its
cameras would be subject to a 30-day retention period and
used for legitimate public safety and crime-solving purposes. The Sheriff's
Office has since learned that Flock generates a separate data

(01:01:56):
set from information collected by its cameras and markets that
data set to other government and private customers through its
traffic analytics product. Flack has confirmed, Flock has confirmed, that
this aggregated data set, aggregated, easy for me to say,
aggregated data set is retained for up to five years

(01:02:17):
separate from and in addition to the 30-day retention period,
the Sheriff's Office understood to apply to all information generated
by its cameras for public safety and crime-solving purposes. Christopher Schmeling,
Racine County Sheriff, said, This is not what we agreed
to and is not what the public was led to believe.
The Sheriff's Office will not participate in a system that

(01:02:39):
appears to use public safety as a justification for mass
surveillance and the collection and monetization of information about innocent people.
If Flock used the public safety purpose of this technology
to build a broader commercial data business without the public's knowledge,
that is a serious breach of trust.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
We will not tolerate it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
The Sheriff's Office has obtained legal counsel and is taking
steps to terminate its agreement with Flock. The Sheriff's Office
will continue to explore the use of automatic license plate readers, ALPRs,
through alternative vendors. ALPR technology is a powerful investigative tool,
but it must be accomplished by appropriate supervision, accountability, transparency,

(01:03:21):
and and clearly defined safeguards. This, in case you were wondering,
is the proper approach. And in case you were wondering
whether Flock was selling license plate data and the movement
of people data, it absolutely was. And this is probably
a worst case scenario for Flock. In fact, if this

(01:03:45):
is a widespread sentiment among law enforcement agencies, which is, again,
the correct sentiment, if they're engaging in this sort of
mass surveillance and data selling, that is a big, big problem,
especially when you are creating that big of a dragnet.
not only are there serious, serious privacy issues, are there serious.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
4th, 5th, and 6th Amendment.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Issues that are raised through the use of flock cameras
to essentially go fishing? I believe a lot of the
problems could in fact be solved by the requirement of
a warrant for flock camera and license plate reading technology,
but If, in fact, the real money-making tool of Flock

(01:04:34):
is to sell all of your data. And who would
want that data? Well, very obviously, if they can determine
where you're going, what you're doing. If, let's say, you're
going into high-crime areas all the time, I can take
a wild guess, your insurance company would love to know that.
They would absolutely love to know if you are engaged
in risky behavior so they can have an excuse to

(01:04:54):
increase your premiums so that they get more money and
They are safer on an actuarial side of things. And
if they can get that information from a third-party vendor
that is contracting with the government, man, oh, man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
There are real, real.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Serious problems that I can see with that. So that
is a very, very big development, not just Racine County,
but also Fond du Lac County saying, nope, we are done.
We are not using flock cameras. This is a big issue.
And it is only going to get bigger, I think.
Coming up next, why is it that liberals can't seem

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to accept what is obviously true? We've got a very
humorous example of this. Coming up next, immutable things. about
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certain things that are just undoubtedly true about Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Like, for example... Earlier this hour, we were.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Talking about the success with the jobs report, just a
blowout jobs report that Trump, throughout his two terms, has
been very, very good for the nation's economy. That if
we didn't have Joe Biden and the horrific stimulus, $ 1. 9
trillion of government bloat injected into the economy at the

(01:06:50):
exact moment that the supply chain, because of COVID-19 and
Democrats refusing to open up their states being in that
state that it was it just injected way too much
capital into the system it was the old milton friedman
helicopter drop of money was the classic recipe for inflation
if that didn't happen If COVID didn't happen, it's impossible

(01:07:16):
to remember now. But in 2020, because Democrats do not
want you to remember, in 2020, February of 2020, they
were absolutely terrified that Trump was going to just steamroll
anybody and everybody on his way to re-election. And Democrats
were terrified that Bernie Sanders was going to be the
party's nominee if left to their own devices, if they

(01:07:37):
didn't rig the primary for Joe Biden. and rig it
against Bernie Sanders for a second straight election cycle, Sanders
would have.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Been the nominee.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
And then you would have had the ultimate question, I think,
between capitalism and socialism. Do the American people want the
ultimate capitalist in Donald Trump, or do they want the
nation's preeminent socialist in Bernie Sanders? So Trump has been

(01:08:05):
very good for the economy. Trump has been very, very
good on border security. And he has been because of that.
he has been very very good on crime the nation's
crime rate has dropped precipitously because of the crackdown on
illegal immigration because of the deportation agenda because of closing
the southern border do you think democrats will ever be

(01:08:25):
able to admit that probably not but the thing that
bothers me the most i think that democrats simply cannot
admit about donald trump because they are so convinced they
have this insane.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Delusion that he is the prince of darkness.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
They cannot admit to themselves the man is objectively hilarious.
He is a truly funny guy. Case in point, last
night he's hosting swing state Republicans at a Rose Garden dinner.
And he's telling the story that he's told before. This
is a story that he's told before. He's talking about

(01:09:01):
getting prescription drug prices down. By the way, there's another
immutable objective truth. Drug prices have gone down because of
Trump Rx. This is a very good thing that the
Trump administration has done that most people have not heard
about because the media can't bring itself to report on
phenomenal successes in this second Trump term. So he's telling
this story, and he's told it a lot, about the

(01:09:23):
price of weight loss drugs. Gobi, GLP-1, Ozempic is the
most famous one of these. Trump calls them the fat drugs.
And he tells the story of a good friend of
his who is obese. As he calls him, you're a
very fat person. And while he is explaining why the

(01:09:46):
fat drugs should not be coming from the exact same factory,
yet far less expensive in different parts of the country,
in different parts of the world, he is absolutely killing it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
From a comedy perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
Democrats will listen to this and they cannot admit that
it is objectively hilarious.

Speaker 8 (01:10:08):
You know, a friend of mine, very, very heavy. He's
a very obese person. I said, you're an extremely obese person,
but he's a brilliant guy. He's a Wall Street guy.
He's a brutal, brutal man, but smart as hell. But
he's got a serious weight problem. And he called me
up and he's from New York. He's one of the

(01:10:28):
top guys on Wall Street. He's begging me because I've
told the story a couple of times not to mention
his name because I'll destroy his reputation. But he's tough
as hell and he's smart, vicious, wild. These are the
people we have to deal with when you're president. He
used to call me Donnie. Now he calls me president.
He'd say, Donnie. Now he calls me president. I'm shocked

(01:10:49):
he does that, actually. That shows respect. But he said,
you know, Mr. President, I was in London, and I
paid $ 86 for Ozempic. And in New York, I pay
$ 1, 300 for the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
That's a lot. That's a big difference. And I had
it checked out. It comes from the same factory.

Speaker 8 (01:11:14):
It comes from the same place. And then I have
some other fat drugs. I said, are you taking this stuff? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
I said, it's not working.

Speaker 8 (01:11:21):
You look like shit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Come on. The setup is incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
You get a full picture of his obese friend, his
fat friend, and he's taking the fat drugs. So you
get a nice setup. He said, are you sure you're
taking them? Because you'll look like bleep. And the punchline
is absolutely devastating. The man is funny. Even Trump haters,
you have to admit, just put aside your hate for

(01:11:50):
just a second. Admit that the man is funny. I
was not a fan of Barack Obama's policies. I was
not a fan at all. I could give credit where
credit was due. The man was and is smooth. The
man just seems like a cool guy, right? Like, if
he wasn't constantly talking down to everybody and expressing how

(01:12:12):
much he's disappointed in the rest of us, I could
see hanging out with Barack Obama. Like, could you see
if you weren't allowed to talk about politics, he wasn't
allowed to talk about politics, all you could talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Was basketball, right?

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
And you're either shooting baskets or watching the NCAA tournament. Like,
every year my buddies and I go out and we
watch as many games as we possibly can on the
first Friday of the NCAA tournament. If Barack Obama was there,
hanging out, drinking some beer, talking ball, you know doggone well,
he'd fit right in because he's a consummate.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton, I can admit.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
was a very likable guy. He was insanely good at
retail politics. Insanely dishonest, insanely horny, yes. But objectively, I
can admit the man was very, very good at what
he did. And on policy, I think history will remember

(01:13:12):
him as much more conservative and much more level-headed. On balance,
outside of the scandal that consumed his presidency, Clinton was
not a bad presidency, at least on policy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
He signed the crime bill, right?

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
It brought a three-decade trend of rising crime rates to
a screeching halt. Democrats, they cannot admit that Trump is funny,
that he is a personable guy, that that was objectively hilarious.
Too bad for them because, frankly, I've been watching that
I've been listening to that audio soundbite all night last night,

(01:13:50):
all day today, and I am still cracking up over it.
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The jury deadlocked. I'm Lisa Lucera, Fox News.

Speaker 9 (01:14:44):
A mistrial declared in the Lindsay Clancy case. A Massachusetts
woman accused of killing her children in 2023.

Speaker 4 (01:14:51):
After about 40 hours of deliberations over six and a
half days, this jury of nine women and three men
sent a fifth and final. Jury note, declaring that with a, quote,
heavy heart, they were unable to come to a unanimous
decision on whether Lindsay Clancy is criminally responsible for killing
her three children. Judge William Sullivan declared a mistrial.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Afterward, D.A.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
Timothy Cruz said the focus should be on Clancy's children, Cora,
Dawson and Callen, and not on the mental health care system.
He would not commit yet on whether there will.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Be a retrial. Fox's Brian Ennis in Plymouth.

Speaker 9 (01:15:26):
Outside the courthouse, Clancy's attorney Kevin Reddington lashed out at
one juror who was the apparent holdout.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
They know that they were robbed by one man for
whatever his agenda was, who stole seven weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Of the life of these other jurors.

Speaker 9 (01:15:44):
Clancy admitted to killing the children but claimed to suffer
from postpartum psychosis. President Trump defending comments Vice President Vance
made yesterday on Iran when Vance said it's not a war.

Speaker 8 (01:15:54):
A lot of people don't call it a war. I
call it a military conflict because it's It's small potatoes
for us. It's not a big thing.

Speaker 9 (01:16:01):
This comes as Iran fired at Kuwait in retaliation for U.S.
strikes on Iran earlier this week. A federal judge has
extended her block against the U.S. Postal Service implementing President
Trump's executive order seeking to limit mail voting during the
midterms until September 10th. The job market rebounded last month
with employers adding 162,000 jobs, far better than the 65,000

(01:16:24):
forecasters expected, according to the Labor Department.

Speaker 6 (01:16:28):
This is one of the best numbers relative to expectation
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Speaker 9 (01:16:32):
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Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
Major development in the flock camera flap as two different
counties across Wisconsin announced that they are ending their contracts
with the License Plate Reader and Surveillance Camera Company. We
will get to that in this, the 4 o'clock hour,
second hour of the Friday edition of the Dan O'Donnell Show.

(01:19:36):
I think most of our listeners now done for the
Labor Day weekend, done with work.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Congratulations. You made it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
A three-day weekend is on the way. It looks like
it's going to be a pretty good one weather-wise. I
know tomorrow and Sunday are going to be pretty good.
There might be some rain in the morning, but I'm
seeing a lot of sunshine. Today we had a heck
of a lot of rain. In fact, I had an
impromptu half-hour show. I was going old school, going back

(01:20:05):
to the 9 to 11 shift. Because Jason Gotch, our
fantastic midday host, who if you're not listening to, you
really should. He does a fantastic, just a wonderful job.
I listen to him when I'm out running errands. No
diss to Ben Yount. I hear Vicki a lot because
I'll be in here. She's on right before I come

(01:20:28):
on at 3 o'clock. I don't hear Ben a lot
just because I'm not out and about before about 9 a.m.
That's when I usually do a lot of work early
in the morning, get the kids ready to go off
to school.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
So I was actually pressed into service.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
There was a massive clap of thunder, and I'm assuming
lightning took out. What exactly happened? We're not exactly sure.
Dave Michaels is doing double duty. He was producing Jason's show,
as he normally does, and he's now producing my show because, what,
half of the staff? I think we are the only

(01:21:03):
two human beings left in this building. Since 9 a.m.,
Dave says, we're the only two people left in this building. Well,
I was in early to record a couple of commercials
and just drop off some stuff. I had stuff to do.
I was planning to, you know, run some errands. I
just stopped off here. And Dave comes flying into my office.

(01:21:24):
Can you be on the air right now? We just
lost Jason's feed.

Speaker 8 (01:21:28):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
So I did an impromptu half hour as that Lindsay
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Coming up later this hour, while the United States economy
appears to be doing great, Wisconsin's, that's an entirely different story.
Two big studies just at one out today from an
extremely liberal group. saying it's rough out there for job
creation in wisconsin after eight years of governor evers now

(01:22:15):
today labor department shows a blowout absolute blowout jobs report
we'll get to that in just a second in the
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Email DOD at iHeartMedia.com, at Dan O'Donnell Show X, Facebook, Instagram,
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to podcasts. President Trump signing a significant executive order today
that is supposed to make things much, much easier for

(01:23:05):
America's cattle ranchers and farmers. It's an executive order that
allows them to basically bypass what had been significant regulations
on basically treating their own cattle. You'll have to forgive
me if it sounds like I'm vamping a little bit.

(01:23:27):
I completely lost the ability to play sound bites, and
I was trying to get that back. Here's President Trump
on his executive order.

Speaker 8 (01:23:34):
Today, I'm thrilled to announce that my administration has taken
historic action to help our nation's great cattle ranchers and
deliver American meat process to the highest standard. There will
be no standard higher in the world and sold at
the lowest prices directly to the consumer. Ranchers and farmers

(01:23:55):
have always been a number one priority to me. They
like me and I like them. Based on the results
in the election, they like me a lot, and I
like them a lot. They work hard, they're smart, they're efficient,
and they are very clean people. They're immaculately clean. That's
what we're talking about. But for years I've heard that
they have a problem with the big processors. You have

(01:24:18):
basically four massive companies that process the food. And they
have to bring it to these processes. And it's a monopoly,
I would say. So I've heard all about it. I've
been listening to it, the big processes. And they say
they're a very nasty group, very difficult to deal with.
And they cost our farmers a lot of money. And

(01:24:38):
they cost our ranchers a lot of money. And they
cost the public a lot of money and grief. And
we're not going to let it happen any longer.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
In that announcement today, a group of farmers and ranchers,
including Wisconsin's own Joe Thomas, Badger's great NFL Hall of Famer,
offensive lineman with the Cleveland Browns, Brookfield Central legend, and
now one of America's and Wisconsin's great farmers. Included in
today's Supporting America's Ranchers executive order is a provision on

(01:25:12):
the Gray Wolf campaign. which directs the Secretary of the
Interior within 90 days to determine whether gray wolves actually
meet the standards set in the Federal Endangered Species Act,
its recovery criteria. If they do, well, then the Secretary

(01:25:33):
is instructed to begin the delisting or downlisting process, which
means you would be able to once again hunt wolves.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Gray wolves.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
This does not immediately delist them. We have been debating
the gray. I have not really been too involved in
this debate, but this is a longstanding debate. There was
a 2022 court ruling that restored significant ESA protections to
the gray wolf. The other wolf, the Mexican wolf, was

(01:26:07):
impacted by this order today. The one that impacts us,
of course, is that the species of wolf that we
have here in Wisconsin, especially northern Wisconsin, the gray wolf.
I really haven't waded into this debate, but I know farmers, ranchers,
people who deal with gray wolves are saying, hey, wait
a second, the wolf population is doing just fine, thank

(01:26:30):
you very much, and they're making off with a whole
lot of our calves. We need to be able to
protect our herds, we need to be able to protect
our livelihoods, and this ruling is This protection, which isn't needed,
is significantly hindering our ability to do that. The big
news today, however, is the Labor Department August jobs report,

(01:26:54):
which was an absolute blowout. There were 162,000 jobs created
last month, double what analysts were expecting. Now, this suggests
that the economy is a whole lot healthier than we
have been led to believe. Non-farm payrolls, according to the

(01:27:17):
Labor Department. rose by 162,000. Private sector employment, 120,000. Government, 35,000.
Now here, I need to actually inject that it's remarkable
that we are getting the non-farm payroll numbers that we've
been getting over the last year, because what the Trump

(01:27:39):
administration has also done is a systematic effort to dramatically
reduce the size of the federal government. Not only has
there been a dramatic reduction in the number of illegal
immigrants in this country, we talked about that at length
yesterday after a new Center for Immigration Studies report came

(01:28:00):
out showing that net immigrants, Migration to the United States
declined by about 3 million. We're expecting an even bigger
number when the formal census figures are out. And it's
not just at the end of the year, the end
of the decade, rather, that census figures on migration come
out pretty regularly. But the estimation is that there is

(01:28:21):
a significant reduction in the number of migrants, especially illegal
migrants in this country. Trump has also engaged In a massive,
it started with Doge, but after that was believed to
have petered out, and this is where the Trump administration
is just so. so incredibly effective. When nobody is paying

(01:28:43):
attention to what it's doing and the libs aren't freaking
out and basically throwing their bodies in front of ICE
agents in Minneapolis, for example. Or when they're not suing
to stop the elimination of every redundant, wasteful program that
we have.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
So Doge went in and identified.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
Billions, if not trillions of dollars in waste, fraud and
abuse identified hundreds of thousands of positions that could be
easily eliminated. And the Trump administration has, in fact, the estimation.
is that this is the single biggest reduction in the

(01:29:26):
federal workforce since the 1990s and possibly even farther back.
There are 250,000 to 278,000 fewer federal employees than there
were in January of 2025 when Trump took office for
a second time. In spite of that, in spite of
that massive reduction, and who is the biggest.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
Employer in the entire country? It's the federal government.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
When you count our military, when you count the civilian workforce,
we have a massive, massive, massive government that has contributed
to a massive, massive, massive national debt. Trump is attempting
to do something about that. And the jobs numbers continue
to be very, very good in spite of the fact

(01:30:14):
that government jobs, which sort of buoyed the Biden and
Obama era job growth numbers, the dramatic expansion of government
under Obama and Biden led to, I would argue, artificially
inflated jobs numbers because the government can simply hire at
taxpayer expense people anyone that it wants for whatever salary

(01:30:37):
it wants, creating jobs that have no earthly business, actually
doing anything except or existing, doing nothing but push paper around.
So what happened today is even though governments, and this
is government at the state level, at the local level,
the county level, even though there were plus 35,000, the

(01:31:00):
private sector non-farm jobs number of 127,000.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
Is a big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
Not only that, the July numbers were revised to a
gain of 21,000 jobs. Originally, we had a report of
a 23,000 job loss. The unemployment rate holding steady at 4.1%.
Labor force participation rate was up. We now have 61%

(01:31:32):
of working age people employed That is a massive number.
That is a phenomenal success. We are seeing Trumponomics working.
The only thing that continues to hold it back is
the perception and the reality that prices are way too high.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
They are out of whack.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Now, everybody who has been actually following this issue knows why,
because we had insane inflation.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
For the period of two straight years, immediately after.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
Joe Biden took office and injected an unnecessary $ 1. 9 trillion
in the nation's economy that created inflation and just put
prices completely out of whack, even though inflation gets under control,
the year-over-year inflation rate can be back down to 3%,
prices are still rising. And when you see a dramatic

(01:32:22):
price shock, but they're still, because so many people are working,
because wages are Okay, even though people are dipping into
their savings, causing significant personal financial strain because they're going
deeper into credit card debt, because there is still demand
for products, prices aren't going down, people are proving themselves
willing to pay the artificially inflated rate. Not only that,

(01:32:45):
because of the artificial import of 5, 10, 15 million
illegal immigrants into this country in a very short amount
of time, we saw massively increased demand. This was the
classic recipe for inflation. And yet somehow Trump is being
blamed because gas prices are high because of the war

(01:33:09):
in Iran. And we are made to believe that, and
I'm not going to dispute that. Yes, gas prices are higher.
It is an undeniable fact than they were a year ago.
That is, you cannot refute that. But to blame the
massive price increases that took place from 2021 to 2024

(01:33:31):
on Donald Trump is ludicrous.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
Now, I can illustrate.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
The difference between Republican economic stewardship and Democrat economic stewardship
pretty easily. Because while the nation continues to add jobs
at a pretty strong clip, Wisconsin is not. And even
a liberal UW-Madison think tank is noticing. That's coming up

(01:33:58):
next here on the Dan O'Donnell Show. In this cycle,
as explained in the last segment, it's generally traditionally believed
to be that people start caring about elections right after
Labor Day weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
I don't subscribe to that theory.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
I think people are much more politically aware, politically conscious,
because politics is just in your face all the time.
There's almost no respite from it unless you actively take one.
But Democrats were projected just by virtue of the fact
that the Republicans hold the White House. Trump is very divisive.
We're told that people really, really hate Donald Trump. And yes,

(01:34:34):
his public perception, his public opinion ratings are not particularly great.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
But what is equally.

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
Notable is the fact that the Democratic Party's brand is
really significantly underwater. Minus 25 Democrat Party favorability ratings. The
Democrats are viewed just as unfavorably as Trump. One of
the problems for Republicans here is that a lot of
the people who are saying they hate the Democratic Party

(01:35:02):
are Democrats. They're just socialists. They want to take over
the party. They want the DSA to basically be running things. Ultimately,
will they fall in line and vote for Democrats? Probably,
almost certainly, because they're susceptible to the emotional manipulation of
constant messaging that Trump is Satan, he's Hitler. Tom Tiffany

(01:35:23):
is going to be a local Wisconsin Hitler and that
they need to vote against them, but they don't really
like the Democrats. So there really isn't that massive enthusiasm
gap that you typically see. And as a result of this,
there's a Harvard-Harris poll. on the generic ballot question, meaning
would you vote for a Republican or would you vote
for a Democrat if the election was held today, regardless

(01:35:45):
of who the actual candidates are? Republicans, shockingly, are leading
that one, 51% to 49%. And Harvard-Harris is traditionally very
accurate with its generic balloting. Eight years ago, when Democrats
won the House popular vote, they got many more votes

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in all House races than Republicans, they won by about 8%
in the House popular vote. Harvard-Harris had it at 8.6%
in favor of Democrats.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
So they are very, very good.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
Republicans being plus two doesn't mean that Republicans are necessarily
going to win, and this may well be an outlier.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
But now you have inside.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
Election which is an election analysis service, which is putting
out its Senate ratings, and they have likely tilt or
lean Republican or safe Republican seats now at 51. Democrats
are at 46 after everything is all said and done. Obviously,
the entire Senate isn't up, but they're saying Democrats can

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expect 46 seats minimum. Republicans can expect 51. There are
three toss-ups. One of them is in Ohio. The other
is in Michigan. Now, Ohio has been very, very red.
In the last eight years, it, along with Florida, has
gone from being sort of an ultimate swing state into
a very, very solid Republican state. But there's sort of

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a special circumstance here. There was a Republican appointee, John Husted,
who has served since, what, 2025, when the former senator,
a guy you might know, J.D. Vance, we were talking
about him extensively in the last segment, he won the
vice presidency and was sworn in. So he has been serving.

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And now Sherrod Brown, the former senator, is back. So
that's going to be a very competitive race. And also
in Michigan, which is a pretty swingy state, but the
candidate there, Abdul El-Sayed, is very unpopular. And Mike Rogers
may actually sneak out a victory. If you have got

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Republicans looking that good in the Senate... it is very
likely folks because they got such a narrow margin in
the house that they lose the house but probably not
by as big a margin as you might think.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
All right, all right, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
Let's head into Labor Day weekend talking about some fun
stuff and actually a unique football controversy involving your Green
Bay Pack. The NFL features the defending Super Bowl champion
Seattle Seahawks hosting, it's a Super Bowl rematch, the New
England Patriots. Welcome back to the Dan O'Donnell Show.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
Show.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
Biggest high school football matchup tonight has got to be
the No.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
2 team in the state, the Muskego.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
Warriors, traveling to Brookfield to take on Brookfield Central, another very,
very good team tonight. a whole lot of teams actually
played on Thursday night. Last night, not because of Labor
Day weekend and the need for families to get in
one last vacation or trip to the lake or whatever,
but because of an ongoing referee shortage. The WIAA was

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actually forced to move entire conference slates to Thursday because
there just aren't enough referees. I think there were something
like 181 teams high school football games across the state tonight.
That's a lot of games, and each game obviously requires
multiple referees. That's a lot of referees, and in recent years, especially,

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and we've been talking about this for quite some time,
for weeks if not months here on the Dan O'Donnell Show,
just the increased intensity and hyper-focus of adults around youth sports.

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
It has become just real.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Tough to retain referees who get abused, who get screamed at.
It's become something of a thankless job as parents have
become crazier and crazier over it. And high school football
is no different. Whereas you might be a little bit

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closer to the parents. Typically, there's a track that separates
the football field from.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
the sidelines and the bleachers. But you can still hear
the parents yell.

Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
But in, say, Little League baseball, the parents are usually
right behind the umpire. And every so often you'll see
a video on social media of a parent just losing
their ever-loving mind because an umpire called a ball a
little bit too outside as a strike. But high school
referees are essentially seeing the exact same thing of just parents, coaches, coaches,

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players just not respecting them. And because of that, there
is an ongoing shortage, especially of football referees. So a
lot of games had to be moved to Thursday nights.
So every single team in Wisconsin, I believe, is required
to play a Thursday night game.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
Because of that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
So from high school to the college game, week one
of the college football season, pretty much every team in
the AP Top 25 is in action. Starting with tonight,
the opening games are this evening. Wisconsin, of course, is
going to be hosting No. 4 Notre Dame this Sunday night.

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It's Sunday night football at Lambeau Field. Only the Packers
are not involved. Very, very cool thing. The Badgers are
going to be able to host one of the best
teams in the country in the Notre Dame fighting Irish.
They are a very popular pick to win the national title,
as they are every year this year. I think a
lot of the hype is absolutely justified. Their quarterback is

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very good, considered to be a Heisman Trophy favorite. And
this is going to be a big year for the Badgers.
Luke Fickle enters his fourth season in Madison after back-to-back
losing campaigns the first time since the pre-Barry Alvarez days
of the 1990s. Remember when the Badgers were just in

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the absolute doldrums And it wasn't until.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
The, was it the 93 Rose.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
Bowl, where they finally broke through and Barry Alvarez became
a folk hero, eventually becoming the AD, coming back to
coach a couple of times. He's just a legend in
Wisconsin because he turned that program around. Well, Luke Fickle
was brought in to great fanfare. Remember the Badgers very
infamously passed over hometown favorite and popular alum Jim Leonard

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to bring in Fickle. And so far, Fickle has been
a bit of a bust. After three seasons, he's 17-21.
But this year, the Badgers have just dumped money hand
over fist into NIL funding.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
You might remember the.

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
NIL bill that passed over my strenuous objections earlier this year,
the facilities fund that allows the Badgers and other D1
schools to spend more money on NIL, name, image, likeness,
basically paying college athletes. And they really hit the transfer
portal hard. They got the quarterback from Old Dominion last year,

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won the Sunbelt Offensive Player of the Year. He's a
dual threat guy by the name of Colton Joseph. So
they hope that the offense is going to be more dynamic.
They got a running back from Iowa State by the
name of Abu Sama III.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
And the run game.

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
Has always been the Badgers bread and butter, from Monte
Ball to Ron Dane, winning the Heisman, Jonathan Taylor, now
an NFL superstar. You got Braylon Allen, who's playing with
the New York Jets. I mean, the Badgers were running
back you forever. And one of the big glaring weaknesses

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for Fickle's offense was the inability to control the line
of scrimmage. The offensive line has just been abysmal. There
are big question marks. about the Badgers offensive line heading
into the 2026 season, but the offense figures to be
quite a bit better defense. According to ESPN advanced metrics,

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the Badgers defense is actually one of the top 25
in the country. They add a couple of additions in
the secondary through the transfer portal. They've got a couple
of really, really good linebackers. So they are projected to
have a pretty good pass rush, pretty good pass defense. Again,
It all comes down to controlling the line of scrimmage

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and how well you're able to stop those runs to
the outside, the pitch outs, the quarterback options that sort
of dominate the college game, unlike the NFL where it's
much more up the middle running and then a vertical
passing game. Although a whole lot of college programs have
developed a much more pro-style offense because if you get

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a top-tier quarterback prospect, they're thinking about the next level already.
They're not just going to want to run the option.
They're going to want to showcase what they can do
for NFL coaches as they hope to be drafted into
the league. Speaking of the league, Packers opened their NFL
regular season in Minnesota. They take on the Vikings a

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week from Sunday as week one opens always the week.

Speaker 2 (01:45:14):
After Labor Day weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
Again, it's just weird to me that there are two
Wednesday games on the NFL schedule.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
I guess I guess. Get it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
The NFL wants as many games free from competition from itself.
They want as many primetime standalone games as they can
possibly have. Well, they typically leave Saturday alone for college football,
and they won't do a whole lot of Friday games
early in their season because of high school football. And also,
you just don't get enough time in between games. Well,

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for the first time, I know because of COVID, there
were a couple of Wednesday reschedules. I believe there was
actually a Tuesday game. during one of the COVID years.
But now Wednesday games are just baked into the schedule.
Opening night, and the Packers actually play the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.
They're playing in a Wednesday night football game coming off
of the bye. I think you're going to increasingly see this.

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It may require some negotiation with the NFLPA because, frankly,
you don't have a whole heck of a lot of
an off week Or you just deal with the short
prep coming back on, say, a Saturday and working just
straight through to the Wednesday night game.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
So it's interesting. But the big news that I.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
Thought was just absolutely fascinating, absolutely fascinating. Yesterday, Jeff Halfley,
who is the head coach of the Miami Dolphins, he
was the Packers defensive coordinator. And he's in a training
camp press conference. and said that two years ago, when

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fans were filming Packers practice during training camp ahead of
that week one matchup against the Philadelphia Eagles in Brazil,
you might remember that one, Jordan Love got hurt. The
Packers played well, but ultimately went down to defeat to
the Eagles. Halfley said that Kevin Petullo, who was back

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then the Philadelphia passing game coordinator, and is now a
member of Halfley's staff in Miami, told him, hey, dude,
we had pretty much all of your Blitz packages because
fans were filming them and then uploading them to social
media during that offseason.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
Take a listen to this.

Speaker 12 (01:47:36):
I didn't really think about it as much until we
hired Kevin Petula, and he told me that before we
played them in Brazil, he had half my pressures on
tape from training camp. from people that videoed it and
put it in, uh, online and Twitter, et cetera. And
then he even, I remember we had a pressure that
I had never run. So there's no way he could

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have known about it and they knew it was coming.
And he said that they saw that pressure on, uh, video.
So I mean, yeah, it's kind of, kind of disappointing,
but at the same time, I'm really not sure what
you can do about it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
That's actually kind of amazing. Uh, The only thing that
you really can do to stop that is what the
Packers have done. And I have been hearing all summer
long from people who have been going to Packers training
camp practices, of course, huge tradition in Green Bay, the
bikes that the kids lend the players, the bikes, and

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they ride the bikes to practice. I mean, it's a
huge event. But the Packers have cracked down on on filming,
on taking pictures. And there are times where no fans
are allowed to watch practice whatsoever when the playbook is open,
meaning when they're actually walking through or working on things
that they're going to implement in a game, you are

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not allowed to film. And oftentimes there are other teams
that will just not allow fans whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:48:59):
So Halfley, who was very big on.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
Disguising his blitz packages and just covering up pressure. This
was devastating to him that people were filming it. And frankly,
I'm not entirely unconvinced that the Eagles or any other
team doesn't just send fans in there pretending to be fans.
And they actually have people who, you know, maybe you've

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got a low level, uh, video coordinator employee, got some
24-year-old kid, fly him out to Green Bay, have him
pose as a hardcore Packer fan, and film all of
their defensive schemes on his iPhone. How would you ever,
as the Packers, really be able to tell? I always

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had my suspicions about that. Remember, the New England Patriots
got in huge trouble because of Spygate. I've just never
been convinced that every other team in the NFL wasn't
trying to get a similar advantage. We're going to step
aside for a quick break, then we'll wrap things up

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and head out to Labor Day weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:50:07):
Stay tuned.

Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
On September 7th, it sort of feels weird to say, yeah,
this is the last week of summer. It also feels
weird because kids go back to school before Labor Day weekend,
when most of the time, at least here in Wisconsin,
at least at public schools, The traditional start date is
the Tuesday after Labor Day weekend. But because it's so late,
they didn't want the school year to go all the

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way to mid to late June. So the decision made
to start on September 1st, which actually statutorily is the
earliest day that you can start public school unless you
get a special dispensation from the state.

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
So it's a little odd.

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
So I'm thinking there's not going to be as much
travel this year. Is it sort of like people are
already back? In the swing of things for the school year,
they're sort of already in school mode, although I'm sure
a lot of people are going to be heading out
to the lake one last time. A lot of cookouts.
For me, invariably, it's fantasy football drafts. It's actually a

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running joke between my wife and I. It's our wedding anniversary.
Tomorrow it is, oh boy, 2009. 17 years. It is
our 17th wedding anniversary, if you can believe that. Uh,
we've been together since what?

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
November of 2000.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
So we're coming up on, we've been together for more
than a quarter century, uh, three beautiful children. I guess
I should say happy anniversary, my dear, but it's, it's
been a running joke that well over 50% of our anniversaries,
because we got married actually on, Labor Day weekend as well.

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Well over half of our anniversaries have been spent with
me doing a fantasy football draft. I truly do have
a great wife who completely understands. So it's like all
of my high school buddies are typically over. We've actually
been doing the same basic league eight or nine very

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very good friends from high school we have been blessed
to still remain friends and still do the same fantasy
football league so most of this poor when my poor
wife's anniversaries have been spent with a bunch of the
high school guys hanging around playing yard games drinking beer
and doing a fantasy football draft so i know there's
a lot of that this weekend i've actually got one

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In about an hour and a half, I've got people
coming over. So I've got Sunday people coming over. I
have got tonight people coming over. And the one day
that I can actually spend with my dearly beloved is
going to be our anniversary. So it should be a
wonderful Labor Day weekend. You know what we actually should
do is head on out to builtright.com. furniture, leather, mattresses.

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Our dear, dear friends at Built Right, they always, I mean,
we have got literally our entire home furnished by Built Right.
That's how great we think their furniture is. It is
the highest quality stuff you can find. And this weekend,
they are having their annual Labor Day sale and million
dollar clearance sell-off.

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
It is a big, big sale. And, you know, one
of the big reasons.

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
That I love Built Right so much It's not just
that they sponsor the show. In fact, my family has
been shopping at Built Right since a decade or so
before there even was a Dan O'Donnell show. My mom
has been a loyal Built Right customer forever. And when
we started, you know, getting into the home ownership game, we,

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of course, went.

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
To Built Right.

Speaker 1 (01:53:41):
And we love it because it's a family business. In fact,
it's a fourth generation family business. Marty, Gail, Randy, Brad,
and Sarah. They're the third and fourth generation family members.
They've even got the fifth generation that might greet you
at the door.

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
The kids are involved.

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
It's just a wonderful store with a wonderful commitment to
what business, what the family business should be all about.
And the Labor Day sale is so big that there
are special holiday hours all weekend long. Tonight they're open Friday.
For a little more than another hour until 7 p.m. tomorrow,

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10 a.m. to 5 p.m.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
Sunday. As always, they're closed to be with family and friends.

Speaker 1 (01:54:23):
And then Labor Day Monday at September 7th, they're open
10 a.m. to 6 p.m. The Labor Day sale. There
is a home decor bonus 20 percent off lamps, artwork, accessories.
poofs and rugs, plus six months special financing.

Speaker 2 (01:54:37):
You can get.

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
Up to $ 1, 150 off legitimate sale prices, 60 months special financing,
buy more, save more at Built Right. And you can
get a free gift, a Built Right patriotic tote bag
with your purchase of $ 1, 599 or more before tax and delivery.
Limit one per household. Get on down to Built Right.

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Tell them Dan sent you, as always. They love that.
And I actually got to get to Built Right today,
maybe in between one of my 55 fantasy drafts, because
there are some things that I kind of wanted to
look at. You know, we built a house and we've
been in for about a year now. Just sort of
looking for like little home decor things.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
We got all the first.

Speaker 1 (01:55:23):
I think the last thing we bought is just an
absolutely beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
Amish made kitchen table. It is just truly.

Speaker 1 (01:55:31):
I mean, look, there are tons of options for buying furniture.
I mean, everybody knows you can get cheap stuff online.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
It's cheap. OK, it's just we tried that.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
And it just, if you want the quality product, if
you want something that is going to last you for
as long as you own your house, I'm not even kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:55:52):
That's how well built, built right stuff is.

Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
We bought a bedroom set, has to be a decade ago,
still looks like it's brand new. Our bedroom set is
absolutely gorgeous. The bed frame, the bedside tables, we got
an armoire.

Speaker 2 (01:56:07):
It has lasted.

Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
I mean, we didn't even think about getting rid of
it for the new house, you know, if you get
a new house, the bedroom's a little bigger, maybe stuff
doesn't fit out.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
No, it fit perfectly.

Speaker 1 (01:56:17):
And it's just such high quality, uh, furniture, uh, I
mean it when I say you've got to get to
Built Right today. And I've got to get out of
here because I've got some dudes coming over. We've got
to draft a fantasy football league. Yeah, we've got the
work league coming up. I'm reminded that we've got the

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work league coming up. It's a great time of year,
honest to goodness. Yeah, summer is ending. Fall in Wisconsin
is the most underrated season. I love it so much.
Have a wonderful end of summer. Fantastic Labor Day weekend.
We will be back Tuesday afternoon, 3.06 p.m., as always,

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right here on the Dan O'Donnell.