Data Centers: Myth vs Reality

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:02):
Today in the five o'clock hour, So.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
A whole lot to get to the big story, though
that is sort of lurking in the background of the
Democratic gubernatorial debates, the gubernatorial election, all of it.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I do believe that it is the issue.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
That is going to define humanity basically for the next
couple of decades, is how we enter into the AI world,
how we enter into the next generation of not just computing,
with supercomputing, quantum computing, artificial intelligence, advanced robotics. What we're

(01:42):
seeing here now is light years ahead of even the
incredible advancements of the atomic age, the age of computers,
the age of connectedness, where the whole world can now
walk around with the entirety of human knowledge in our
pocket thanks to the development of the Internet, thanks to

(02:02):
the development of the smartphone, and technology has just advanced
at a rapid pace. But what we are at the
precipice of right now is advancement the likes of which
we've just never seen before, because we have been able
to create machines get that can think at a much quicker,

(02:26):
much more advanced level than even the brightest human minds can.
Now this doesn't mean that the machines are smarter than us,
but what we can now do is leverage the power
of human understanding and ingenuity and essentially multiply it with
an intelligence that is working as a tool for us. Now,

(02:48):
how we deal with this, how we master the future,
is is going to define America. I mean over the
next two hundred and fifty years, he who knows what
the world is going to look like. Although we in
Wisconsin know exactly what it's going to look like for
the next.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Four hundred years.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
We're going to be paying more in property taxes thanks
to Governor Evers and the Democrats. But in two hundred
and fifty years, we don't know what this country is going.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
To look like.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
But I think it's helpful to look back at where
we were technologically.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Two hundred and fifty years ago.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
We literally won a war for our independence with muskets
and cannons. The British sailed across the Atlantic to bring
their army to try to bring us to heal. Now,
we destroyed a nuclear facility in Iran, buried under a mountain,

(03:43):
with an armada of hypersonic planes that traversed the entire
globe at such speed and such height, and with such
incredible cloaking technology that the entire world had no idea
they were airborne. That was Operation Midnight Hammer. Last summer,

(04:04):
we took down the entire Iranian military with almost zero
loss of life. And we did it because of our
advanced technology. We were able to arrest and take into
custody the president of Venezuela. And I don't think still
to this day. I know I've been harping on this

(04:26):
since January, but it is such a significant deal.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
It is such a.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Revelation in not just American military but technological might that
we were essentially able to shut down the vaunted missile
defense and air defense system of the Venezuelans that they
just assumed was going to protect them. We just switched
it off. And we did so that that vaunted technology

(04:53):
that was Chinese missile defense systems. Trump, you gotta love Trump.
We did this while a massive delegation of Chinese diplomats
was in Caracas at the time, just so they could
see up close how weak their missile defense systems actually
are when compared with the technological superiority of the United States.

(05:14):
We then went in and, according to Trump, used an
advanced some sort of weapon using some sort of electromagnetic
wave called the discombobulator, which apparently just prevented any of
the guards Maduro's elite guards from even standing up. Now,

(05:38):
this was technology that had been rumored for years. You
might remember Havana syndrome. Well, it's apparently real. All of
this is made possible by the incredible advancements that we
have in artificial intelligence technology, in just advanced tech that
the rest of the world has no idea about. And

(06:00):
in fact, I am one hundred percent convinced folks that
the entire world is sort of in UFO mania because
the release of the UFO Files, the Spielberg movie, which
is something of a flop called Disclosure Day, I enjoyed
it that the world is waiting, that the UFO community
is waiting for the disclosure that aliens are here, and

(06:23):
that what's above us in the skies, what we're seeing,
it's aliens. No, it's almost certainly our technology that we
want to keep secret. What I can tell you as
being obsessed with UFOs and aliens and the supernatural since
I was like eleven, twelve years old and researching this stuff.
This was if you want to know what young nerdy

(06:45):
Dan O'Donnell was like before he got into politics. I
researched insanely heavily UFOs, ghosts, monstered legends, whatever, the Bigfoot everything.
I was upset as a kid, and do you know
what I learned that the government actively encouraged people like

(07:09):
me to theorize that it was aliens so people wouldn't
realize the truth that we have insane advanced technology that
might have come from the aliens. Now, I have no idea,
but the whole point of the nineteen fifties sci fi boom,
where it was like they came from outer space and
all that, all of that was encouraged by the government

(07:31):
so the Soviets wouldn't know what we were up to.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
And this continued throughout the Cold War.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Well, now we're in an age where the technology is
so incredibly advanced that there's really no limit to what
it is that we can do. And it doesn't just
have a military component to it, but it is a
massive national safety national security issue because of the military component,
because of the ability to essentially control control the world.

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If you're able to control the data and control the tech,
control what's known as the compute, the computing power that
sort of is the brains and the engine behind all
of this, and all of this, of course is powered
by electricity.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's powered by oil.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
It's powered by the natural resources that we are very
rich in and that we're able to produce, and that
we are constantly in a competition with the rest of
the world over. This is why I have been saying
that Venezuela and Iran, all of it is absolutely about
controlling the oil. But more than that, it's about controlling

(08:43):
China's supply of oil so that China cannot beat us
in the development of this technology. Now, of course, China
is going to do what China does. China is just
going to steal our intellectual property and they're going to
repurpose it, make it cheaper, and use it for their
very own We know this is coming, but if they

(09:05):
can't power it, that's sort of the point. So this
entire year has been about positioning the United States to
be the global winner and the global leader, and to
extend our lead in this race into the future. But
a key component of this is in fact that data,

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and a key component of controlling that data and winning
this war is storing it. This is where Wisconsin becomes
something of the epicenter of the fight to win this future.
Wisconsin is one of the perfect places, especially Southeast Wisconsin.

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One of the perfect places for the construction of data centers.
A we have very cold winters. Yesterday we were having
some fun with Stephen A. Smith, the ESPA host, saying
he felt bad for all of the players who got
traded to the Bucks. They had to go from Miami
to Milwaukee because of how cold it is in the winter. Well,

(10:08):
that's perfect for data center construction, because these things get
very hot. You can't build them in Miami. Maybe who knows,
maybe Yannis left he wanted to go to Miami to
get away from the data centers. Wisconsin also has a
ton of flat land. It is also very close to
a massive body of fresh water. In other words, Wisconsin

(10:33):
is the perfect spot for data centers. Why not Illinois,
You might ask, why do you think not Illinois? Because
the tax climate is nightmarriage. So companies like Microsoft, like Google,
all of them are eyeing southeast to Wisconsin, eyeing Wisconsin
generally to put their data centers. In fact, just yesterday,

(10:57):
Microsoft announced that it completed the construction of its very
first data center in Mount Pleasant. This from their press release.
They after bringing equipment online and conducting startup activities in April,
the facility is now fully operational marking a major milestone
in the company's ongoing investment in southeast Wisconsin. Announced in

(11:19):
May twenty twenty four, the facility was completed ahead of
schedule thanks to nearly ten thousand construction workers who contributed
to its development over the past two years. Currently, there
are nearly five hundred and fifty full time employees on
site supporting this first facility. Microsoft and its contractors are
actively hiring and expect this number will continue to grow

(11:41):
over time. This project was opposed every single step of
the way, and I don't even blame the people who
live in Mount Pleasant or near any of the proposed
sites for data construction for being opposed to them. The problem, though,

(12:03):
is that there is a tremendous amount of misinformation that
is being deliberately peddled by people who I think are
not totally honest actors, and in many respects are trying
to score political points by demonizing data centers and making
people just irrationally afraid of what it is they actually do.

(12:28):
In fact, that press release from Microsoft debunks up a
major myth. Right there, ten thousand construction workers worked on
this project. Five hundred and fifty are currently working at
the facility full time. Now, do you think that these
are ten dollars an hour near minimum wage jobs or

(12:51):
do you think these are highly skilled jobs. I would
wager on the latter, And in fact, we're constantly talking
as conservatives and as anybody who sort of understands the
job market of today in the job market of tomorrow,
that one of the big downsides of AI is that
it is going to take a whole lot of white

(13:13):
collar jobs. So we're saying, get into the trades. People
are always going to need plumbers, people are always going
to need carpenters, people are always going to need things
built and fixed. Well, one of the big things that
people are not talking about is if you go into
the electrical trades, if you become an electrician, the world

(13:35):
is your oyster. With these data centers, they're actually because
they're going up so fast, and they're going up just
in specific places in the country like southeast Wisconsin and
areas of the country like US, we don't have enough
electricians who are able to work on them. The companies
are actually importing people. It's sort of like the way

(13:56):
I've heard it described to me is that there's it's
sort of like workers who go to an offshore oil rig.
You basically go, you move to Wisconsin, move to Mount
Pleasant for six months, and you work at the data center,
and they put you up in an apartment complex or
housing or something nearby, and they pay you a ton

(14:20):
of money because workers are in such short supply and
in such high demand. What do you think that does
to the surrounding community. If you have got five hundred
new full time employees, many of whom are very likely
going to be coming from out of state or at
the very least from far away. That promotes the construction

(14:41):
of new housing, That promotes the construction of hotels and restaurants,
That supports jobs in the infrastructure that sort of supports
these data centers. It's a new economy that's built up
around them. These aren't going to be operating with ten

(15:02):
to fifteen people. They're going to be operating, very likely
with several hundred per And this is this is projected
to grow as the data centers rather paradoxically become smaller
in size, but much more complex, much more nuanced, and

(15:27):
require a whole lot more supervision. I mean, the entire
economy of an area is actually potentially supported by this
influx of workers. Typically you will see I mean ten thousand,
because this was a rather large facility by Microsoft. Ten thousand,
one thousand and five thousand, I think is roughly the average.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
There.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
In fact, is a study that was just done about
three four months ago that showed with these indirect jobs,
not just the construction, not just the full time work
at the data centers, but when I'm talking about the hotels,
the restaurants, movie theaters, entertainment and anything in everything that
people will need when communities expand, the things that just

(16:12):
sort of naturally banks go up. You know, any if
you're like my.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Community, there will be about fifteen new car washes that
go up.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
I don't know what it is with the suburbs and
car washes. I'm starting to think that there are like
five hundred Walter Whites operating and landering their money through
car washes just in my immediate vicinity, because there are
car washes everywhere. But one study found that it is
roughly four and a half additional jobs per job.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
At the data center.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Now that might be a little rosy, but it does
tend to track because we see, and we have seen,
with everything that's going up in the mount Pleasant everything
that's gone up right along I ninety four in recent
years to support all of that, the Amazon warehouse and

(17:10):
all of that U line, all of these companies. We
see all of these corollary jobs that are going up,
but people are still unconvinced. In fact, Democrats are are
so dead set on stopping data centers that they actually
proposed a moratorium on all data center construction. In fact,

(17:35):
local communities have been trying their hardest through new ordinances
superior I believe just became the latest about a week
ago to try to take matters into their own hands
by not allowing data center construction within their city limits.
But Democrats have really they've gone the extra step. And
Tom Tiffany, the Republican gubernatorial candidate, is saying, look, I look,

(18:00):
he sees the poles, he sees seventy percent of people
do not want data centers going up. But what he
is saying, and what Republicans are saying, is look, let's
have a more nuanced look at these. Let's not just
fear monger and give into the innate nimbiism of I
don't want a data center anywhere within twenty miles of me.

(18:21):
Because it's going to pollute the groundwater and it's going
to I don't know, subliminally control my mind or whatever nonsense.
I'm not just talking about the real, far out nonsense
that people believe the myths about these things. But the
myths are getting into the public consciousness, and I think

(18:45):
we need to bust them. Data centers do not consume
an inordinate amount of water. They are not going to
suck Lake Michigan dry. They're not responsible for electricity bills
going up. They're not going to provide a strain on

(19:05):
the grid that's unsustainable in the extreme. We are going
to provide the nuance. We are going to provide the truth.
Stay tuned. The Dan O'Donnell Show is coming right back
in just a second. We're going to bust some myths
about data centers so we can have a more informed
debate about one of the biggest issues, believe it or not,

(19:29):
in our lifetime. Stay tuned, We're coming right back once again.
Wisconsin is showing the rest of the country the way.
This time it is in having comedians opposed data centers.
Here in Wisconsin. Charlie Barns, who is something like our
official state comedian, you know we have the official state bird,

(19:51):
the Robin. Well, we have an official state comedian, and
it is Charlie Barons. You know, the manitawac minute, very
very funny, very creative guy. But he has made it
his personal mission to misinform as many human beings as
possible in this state about data centers. And I'm still
not entirely convinced that this is Charlie's own volition, that

(20:15):
this is just his personal crusade to stop every single
data center in the state. I am just saying that
how people like Charlie make their money is by partnering
with different brands to make content.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Right.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
I get paid to voice commercials and to do endorsements,
and I will say this is Dan O'Donnell for Lynch
Automotive or for Built Right Furniture or something like that.
And Charlie Barron's content. I believe he works at Quick Trip.
He does Quick Trip, I know that. And what he'll
do is he'll make branded content, branded videos where he

(20:54):
does a comedy bit in a Quick Trip. And it's
not like he's saying, you know, the punch line is
two for one Cafe lattes before nine am. He's doing material.
It just happens to take place at a quick trip.
Sometimes maybe a graphical flash on the screen about an
actual ad, but it's meant to look like more native content.

(21:19):
I just wonder if some of the anti data center
content is not entirely organic. And know this is not
in any way to question Charlie Baron's integrity or his
sincerity on this issue. I just I wonder, I really,
just so you know, I am not being paid by

(21:41):
any data centers. As much as I would like that
sweet sweet Microsoft cash, I am not necessarily defending data centers.
And if they tried to put a data center literally
in my backyard, I think I'd be a little ticked too.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
So I get it.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
I understand, folks, I completely understand the concerns about data
centers going, And for the most part, the concerns are
valid concerns about whether or not it's a good fit,
concerns about whether it's an eyesore on what was once
very scenic farmland, things like that. But the concerns about

(22:22):
some of the more unhinged stuff, and some of the
concerns about water usage and strain on the grid. While
those are legitimate concerns, those are absolutely legitimate concerns. We
are not being properly informed. We do not have the
facts in this debate. So Charlie barons Is is really
really doing a number on data center construction in Wisconsin

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and the belief that Wisconsin could be a national leader
and just get money handover fist from tech companies because
we've got a ton of land, we have got access
to fresh water, we have got a reasonable tech climate,
way more reasonable if the Democrats don't retake the governor's office,

(23:06):
and heaven forbid, they get the trifecta they've been lusting
after and take control totally of state government.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
They've already got the Supreme Court.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
But we have a relatively favorable tax climate, business tax climate,
and the belief was that we would be a great
place and everybody would be benefiting from this. Well, that
hasn't happened because of the popular pushback and it's sort
of been galvanized by of all people, Charlie Barns well nationally.
Now there is a thought that Theo Vaughan, who is

(23:37):
a very very popular comedian.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
I'm a fan. I think he's hilarious. He's kind of conservative.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I guess in that he's not a fire breathing liberal,
but he if I had to guess he's probably a conservative,
he's probably.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
He's probably a thing. But he goes for humor.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
He doesn't go for just political talking points, the sort
of clapter seeking performance that has essentially killed late night television.
But he has recently come out very strongly against data centers,
and now there is something of an effort underway to

(24:19):
recruit him to be the national figure opposing data center construction.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
In fact, just what two days ago.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
I believe on his podcast he was riffing on data centers.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
We don't want any data, bro, we don't want any
Nobody wants a data center, dude, nobody wants it. And
the people that want him to meet brother, they seem
kind of evil. It's like, what's gonna happen? You know,
you fall down and you get a bunch, you know,
a bunch of loose data flies out of the factory
or something. Now and your kids got you know, he's

(24:53):
got five episodes of dutton rants or whatever stuck in
his neck or something. It's gotten crazy. We don't want it.
Nobody wants the Okay.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
See, clearly a lot of that was a joke, right,
But the underlying point is that nobody wants data centers
near them. Not because there's going to be massive data
spills all over the place and we're gonna, you know,
dispatch all of the weepy libs with rags and toothbrushes

(25:25):
to clear all of the data that's spilled over the
local baby seals. No, that's that's not going to happen.
But what he's talking about, nobody wants them. The primary
reason that's always given is that they're going to just
strain scarce resources, That electricity rates are going to skyrocket,

(25:47):
That data centers are just going to suck the local
power grid dry, and that rates for individual users for
pre existing businesses are just going to guy rocket. And
this is just straight out of the socialist talking point.
The big corporations, the big data centers are not going
to pay their fair share for the electricity they consume. Well,

(26:15):
data center operators don't set utility rates. Here in Wisconsin,
we have something called the Public Service Commission, or PSC,
because our power grid is run by operators operated by
companies that effectively have government backed monopolies. In Southeast Wisconsin,

(26:37):
it's we energies. They have to go to the Public
Service Commission and actually request the ability to hike rates.
The PSC, whose members are appointed by the governor, they
serve for set terms, So for quite a while in
Governor Evers's term, we still had PSC commissioners who are

(26:58):
appointed by Governor Walker. The past several years, every commissioner
that serves now has been appointed by Governor Evers. As
a result, we have seen spiking utility rates because they
are approving massive hikes, much bigger hikes than Walker's PSC
commission members ever did, and they're approving a much higher

(27:20):
percentage of them. More than three quarters of the rate
hike requests are being approved now as opposed to under
twenty five percent under Scott Walker. So we are seeing
rates hiked well before any data centers are coming online.
Remember the Microsoft one in Mount Pleasant just went online yesterday.

(27:43):
But we've seen massive spikes because it's not the data centers,
it's Shocker government and specifically liberal government. So electricity rates
are not going to necessarily spike. There is going to
be an increase in demand. But what people don't quite

(28:06):
understand is that one of the big contingencies for building
data centers is to make these companies pay for updates
to the grid, new transmission lines, new power substations, that
sort of thing. You can't just come in and be
an energy hog. And the other thing is the total

(28:29):
share of power consumption that data centers use is actually
vanishingly small. In twenty twenty four, this is the most
recent year for which data is available across the globe,
data center is comprised about one point five percent of
total electricity consumption. This is of course going to rise,

(28:55):
but by twenty thirty it's going to rise to about
three percent of global consumption. By way of comparison, heavy industry, manufacturing,
mining that takes about forty to forty two percent of
global electricity usage. Data centers are a tiny fraction of this.

(29:20):
Residential and commercial buildings that's another twenty seven percent of
all the electricity we as humans use now. Yes, obviously
across the globe they're using far less data than we are,
So yes, there's going to be more heavy industry and
mining and manufacturing in say India and the rest of

(29:43):
the world. How about the US DAN. I am so
glad that you ask. The United States data centers used
about four point four percent of all electricity consumed again
most recent year, which data is available. By twenty twenty eight,
that is expected to rise to about nine to ten percent,

(30:09):
possibly as high as twelve percent, depending on how fast
data centers get online, how fast demand grows. So we're
looking at twelve percent of the nation's electricity. That is
still a tiny fraction of how much electricity we're using
for residential, commercial, industrial, manufacturing, and all of the sectors

(30:36):
that are already in place and already online. In other words,
the idea that a data center is going to instantly
jack electricity rates and is going to provide a strain
on the power grid that we just can't possibly overcome,
that's another myth.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
What about water.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Usage, Well, we'll dive into that coming up next when
The Dan o'donald Show returns.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Welcome back.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
It is the Dan o'donald Show, and the data center
debate is a significant one here in Wisconsin. In a
broader sense, it is a debate over the future of
this country, in the future of this world. We need data,
we need data storage, and we need a lot of it,
and we're going to need a whole lot more because

(31:29):
of the development of artificial intelligence quantum and supercomputing, and
the fact that, frankly, we as individual human beings, simply
consume a lot of data. Whether it's storing pictures, whether
it's doing a Google search, whether it's using or interacting
with an AI. All of this creates data. All of

(31:51):
this data needs to be stored. Now, if you ask
Kamala Harris where all that data goes, it's up in
the clouds somewhere that she literally thought, I love this sound,
but she literally thought that data goes up into the
sky in the cloud.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
So you're now no longer are you necessarily keeping those
private files in some file cabinet that's locked in the
basement of the house. It's on your laptop, and it's
then therefore up here in this cloud that exists above us. Right,
it's no longer in a physical place.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Man, we dodged a bullet collectively as a nation, didn't we.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Folks?

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Thank you President Trump for blocking both Kamala and Hillary
Clinton from the White House. Data is not stored in
a cloud. Data is stored in a data center. Now,
in order to I want you to think about you
laptop computer, think about any computer, but a laptop is

(33:03):
the best example because it gets very hot, the fan
goes on.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
It needs to cool.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
In fact, the computer next to me right now, it's
fan is running, probably because I think this desktop computer
that is in the studio was. I'm convinced we're still
running ms DOSS on this thing. But data centers to
get very hot and need to be cooled, and a

(33:30):
lot of them use liquid cooling systems.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
As a result of this, they need a lot of water.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
But they don't need nearly as much water as has
been feared, or as is fear mongered about. Most modern
facilities use what's known, especially AI facilities, use closed loop
liquid cooling systems, meaning water is essentially recycled. You get
a set amount of water, and then that water just

(34:01):
keeps being repurposed and reused throughout the system. It's like
its own treatment center. Or a lot of modern data
centers that are coming online right now use air cooling
use just like your laptop, just like this dying desktop
beside me, they use fan systems. Still, there is a

(34:23):
whole lot of consternation that just like and this is
the exact same fear mongering about a decade ago with
the fox Con facility. Remember when the fox Con facility
was going to be in Mount Pleasant, right where the
Microsoft Data Center project is. We were told that to
make the LCD screens that fox Con was going to develop,

(34:48):
they were going to suck Lake Michigan dry.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Well.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
They've just recycled the exact same argument for data centers.
The statistics, though, tell a different story. Nationwide, data centers
account for what percentage do you think of total fresh
water withdrawals total? What percent, ten percent, fifteen percent, roughly

(35:17):
zero point zero three percent of all fresh water withdrawals agriculture,
by contrast, that accounts for about forty three percent of
all fresh water withdrawals in this country. Typically, your average

(35:38):
data center consumes about the same amount of water as
an average eighteen whole golf course. Typical golf course is
about one hundred and fourteen million gallons of water per year,
because obviously you need to keep it very very well
watered throughout the summer, one hundred and fourteen million gallons

(36:00):
per year. A medium sized data center about one hundred
and ten million gallons per year. That is, on average,
roughly one again average sized eighteen hole golf course. Every
US data center in the United States in twenty twenty three,
most recent year for which data is available.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
I recognize the numbers are older.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
We are in twenty twenty six a lot more data centers,
but this is the best data we have right now.
All US data centers consumed direct consumption of fresh water
about seventeen billion gallons per year. Seventeen billion gallons. That
is the equivalent of roughly one hundred and fifty to

(36:50):
two hundred golf courses nationwide. How about all US golf courses.
That accounts to upwards of upwards of seven hundred and
fifty billion gallons of fresh water a year. The most
commonly cited figure is about five hundred and fifty billion

(37:13):
gallons of fresh water every single year. That means golf
courses in the United States use thirty to forty times
more water than data centers. When you think about a
data center and how much water it's going to use,

(37:33):
think about a golf course. You like golf, I like golf.
Is anybody talking about getting rid of golf courses because
they're just using too much water? Now, again, we are
going to see with the construction of more data centers,
we are going to see an increased demand. But right now,

(37:55):
when that demand is about zero point zero four percent
of the nation's fresh water withdrawals. Even if we get
up to five percent, which would be a massive increase,
this would probably mean we are two hundred xing the
number of data centers in the United States.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
That's still a tiny fraction.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Of the water that we are consuming for other things
that human beings consume water for. This is just another
thing that we're consuming water for, that we're consuming electricity
for that we're constructing to help human existence. This is

(38:38):
going to be a net positive. I understand the frustration
and the angst and the fear, but it's important to
understand the facts and not give in to fear mongering
so that we can have an intelligent debate about the
biggest argument that is going to shape our entire future.

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Speaker 2 (41:15):
Big deal.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
In the New York primaries, Democrat Socialists basically ran the table.
There were major and I mean major upsets in the primaries.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Last night.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
In the seventh Congressional district, Claire Valdez, a member of
the DSA, defeated Brooklyn Borough President Antonio Renoso. It was
a very strong victory. Now she is poised to succeed
the retiring representative nik Nidia Velazquez. It is a deep

(41:51):
blue district that's actually been nicknamed the Commie Corridor, so
you can imagine this was always sort of predestined to happen.
There was a big upset New York thirteen Daria Lisa
Avila Chevalier narrowly upset longtime incumbent Representative Adriona Adriano Espelat.

(42:17):
He was the chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. And
I think there is absolutely a lesson in there that
if you are not down with the socialist struggle, no
matter how much you represent one of the demographic groups
that have been so instrumental in recent Democrat party success,

(42:39):
you are in deep, deep trouble. And if you are
a straight white male, basically kiss your seat goodbye. Incumbent
Representative Dan Goldman, who has been a vocal Trump critic
for the past well as long as Trump has been
in office, it seems like, certainly in the second Trump

(43:00):
term and going back even farther than that, he is
one of these guys who is just constantly on CNN,
constantly on MS. Now you see him, he is saying
the most insane things about Trump. Did not matter. He
got absolutely smoked by Brad Lander, a Zoron Mamdani backed

(43:22):
Progressive DSA guy. He decisively defeated Goldman sixty six percent
to thirty four percent. Now in the New York State Legislature,
DSA candidates picked up a number of seats, huge victories there,
and the most notable one of these is a Muslim

(43:46):
American representative who was well, frankly pretty open in her
disgust for this country when talking about nine to eleven.
Her name is a be air Quass, and she actually
said America deserved nine to eleven because like, uh, like

(44:12):
totally the racism and stuff.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
And so like, and finding that like, you know, the
system of capitalism and racism and white supremacy, et cetera
have all and Islamophobia have all been used, you know,
to colonized lands, right, to take resources from other people.
And so this is like a long trajectory and we're
just seeing the manifestations of that continuation right with nine

(44:38):
to eleven. And so a lot of times when people
are asking us to respond about you know, attack, right,
when if you look back like historically, right, you know,
a lot of us come from lands that were colonized,
lands where wars are being waged, right, And a lot
of times because of US policy or the policies in Europe.
And so I find that we can connect over that,

(45:00):
but then also that the idea that we have to
apologize for like a terror attack that like a couple
of people did, and then there is no apologies or
reparations for genocide and for slavery, et cetera, is something
that I kind of find like reprehensible.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
A quarter century after nine to eleven, we are going
to have someone in the New York State Senate, and folks,
she's going to win in the New York State Senate
District twelve. She is in state Senate District twelve. You're
going to have New York represented in its state Senate
by someone who thinks that about America. And nine to

(45:37):
eleven in Congress, we are going to have somebody in
Daria Liza Avila Chevalier, who tweeted this right before Christmas
twenty nineteen. I forgot to get napkins, so I just
wiped my hand on the American flag behind me smiley
face emoji. These are people who fundamentally despise this country,

(46:04):
who fundamentally despise our capitalist system, our culture, our way
of life, all of it.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
And they are on the march.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Ladies and gentlemen, Yes, I know that New York is
about as liberal a place as it gets New York City. Hell,
you had Claire Valdez, the DSA candidate, win the Commie corridor. Okay, fine,
they're going to be represented by the sort of candidate
that they want. But there are a lot of things
at play here. Number one, when we say the Democratic

(46:38):
Party is becoming the Party of Communism, is becoming the
party of Zoron Mamdanni and AOC and Bernie Sanders and
Elizabeth Warren, that the old guard Democrats are gone, that
they are just out of this party. The Bill and
Hillary Clinton's as left wing as they were back in
the nineties.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
They they're gone, they don't exist.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Just look at Chuck Schumer, I mean the perfect example,
Senator Chuck Schumer, Senate Minority Leader, Chuck Schumer from New
York Jewish, which is something that now, I mean, just
look at the people who are radical anti Zionists who
just got elected, who are already elected. And yes, no, no, no,
we don't. We don't hate Jewish people. We hate Zionists,

(47:26):
i e. People who believe that the state of Israel
should exist. Whenever you ask somebody if they're an anti Zionist,
you should ask, Okay, So what should happen to all
of the people who currently live in Israel once we
dissolve it as a state? Should Should they be subjugated
by the Palestinians who should have a reconstituted Palestine?

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Like what? Honestly, what should happen?

Speaker 1 (47:53):
There is a very thin line that I don't believe
exists between anti Zionism and anti Semitist. But I digress,
and that is a big, big part of it. But
Chuck Schumer is he is forced. I mean, go back
and listen to Chuck Schumer in the nineteen nineties, in
the twenty tents, talking about illegal immigration, talking about voter

(48:13):
I D talking about any issue, talking about trans rights.
Oh wait, you won't be able to find him talking
about trans rights back in the nineties, or even as
recently as about oh, I don't know, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,
before this became a big deal in Democrat Party, progressive
race and gender and sexuality based Marxism.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
He's had to adapt or he's going to be out.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
And still still for years they have been talking about
AOC mounting a primary challenge to him, which is entirely
possible if AOC doesn't run for president. And eventually she's
obviously going to run for president, but she may decide
in the interim or potentially instead that she can have

(49:01):
a pretty cushy career and she can lead Democrats in
the Senate. That's going to be the day that Chuck
Schumer retires, because he really doesn't have much of a chance.
And it's not just New York, it's all across the country.
You see Democrat socialists on the march, look no further
than here in Wisconsin. The two leading candidates are Mandela

(49:23):
Barnes and Francesca hon Francesca Hoong is about as open
a socialist as it gets. She would be well in
line idiologically with any of these Democrats who just won
in New York last night. Mandela Barnes two. Now, he
has been trying his level best to hide it, but
he absolutely believes the exact same thing as all of

(49:48):
these people. He believes that America is a fundamental He
even said, he even said ahead of his run for
the Senate in twenty twenty two, the founding of America awful.
He is on tape saying that the founding of this
country was awful. This is somebody who wants to represent

(50:12):
one of the fifty American states, wants to lead one
of the fifty American states.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
In New York. It is inevitable that pretty much.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
All of these candidates are going to win, because obviously
you've got a very left wing state. I still believe
in states like Wisconsin and in states that aren't just
completely taken over by the left wing radicals, you're going
to see hushback and you're going to see a very
very difficult challenge.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Hell.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
This is why the Democratic Party of Wisconsin. They realize
that there are still too many conservatives left here in
the state, too many moderate Democrats who're older on average
than most states in our Union. And even among Democrat
you've got the Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Bill Clinton Democrats.

(51:05):
They're traditional progressives, they're liberals, yes, but they aren't fire
breathing socialists, and they're very resistant to this new generation,
the millennial, the generation Z left wing radical socialist candidates
who are springing up all around them. So the Democratic

(51:26):
Party of Wisconsin is trying its level best to halt
this march by stopping Francesco Hong and stopping Mandela Barnes
in their tracks. And now the strategy is very clearly
to get every candidate out of the race who's not
Sarah Rodriguez, who I believe they've determined is the one

(51:47):
thing standing in the way of a Hong or Mandela nomination,
which I think they believe since this isn't New York,
they don't have a chance of winning. The reality is
is that this is where the Democrat Party is. This
is the heart, this is the soul of your average

(52:08):
Democrat voter. You've got a generational split, to be sure,
and a lot of the boomer lives. As cringe as
they are, they're still a little put off by the socialists.
But eventually, what we know about Democrat voters is eventually
they do fall in line. Eventually they do just sort
of give in to whatever it is their party says.

(52:30):
So if the party says, yeah, we're all socialists now,
and man o, Matt, what's kind of amazing to me
is I'm old enough to remember when any Republican dared
to call Barack Obama a socialist, you were labeled as racist.
This was like a horrible slur, This was a racial
dog whistle. That's as recent as like twenty twelve, now

(52:55):
the socialist communist banner is proudly flying over the Democrat
Party's headquarters, and it will be flying above the United
States of America if voters don't actively try to stop it.
There's another component to what's going on in New York

(53:16):
as well, and this is something New York City that
was really talked about when Mamdanni won. It's the split
between people who were born in this country and people
who were not. Now, we don't have reliable exit polling,

(53:37):
at least I haven't seen from the elections last night,
so we're going to kind of need to go with
the New York City mayoral election.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Last year.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
You might remember that Mam Donnie won a pretty sizable
victory over Andrew Cuomo. Okay, it was relatively strong. There
was really never much of a doubt that Mam Donnie
was going to win this race. And I maintain frankly
that a big reason for that was Curtis Sliwa being

(54:11):
in the race. We love Curtis. I love Curtis. You
love Curtis. Guardian Angels all the guy with the beret.
You've seen him all over He's all over Fox News.
I believe he hosts a talk radio show on WR
out there. Uh, he was in this race pretty much
only serving as sort of a stalking horse for Mam Donnie,

(54:32):
and he was just taking votes away from Andrew Cuomo.
But those votes for Cuomo and those votes for Sliwa
almost universally came from native born American voters. American born
New Yorkers voted for Andrew Cuomo at a forty percent clip,

(54:57):
Mam Donnie thirty one percent. Sliwo is in there at
about twenty five percent. Foreign Born New Yorkers voted for
Mom Donnie at a sixty two percent clip, compared with
twenty four percent for Andrew Cuomo and twelve percent for
Curtis Sliwa. Now as Stephen Miller, the White House aid,

(55:22):
the very very powerful aid to President Trump tweeted this morning,
changed the voters, changed the country. He noted in twenty
twenty six, half of New York City residents speak a
language other than English as their primary language, and one
quarter of New York City residents lack English language proficiency.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
That is a big, big deal.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
You have got people coming into this country establishing residency,
if not citizenship. Eventually they or their children are voting
they're overwhelmingly voting for communists. This is part of the
more insidious thing about Democrats, mass migration, invasionary immigration policy,

(56:17):
this notion of rey conquista, where we're just going to
remedy the old wrongs of colonialism by reconquering it across
the US Mexico border. We are importing people from this
entire world who frankly aren't particularly fond of America. They

(56:39):
sort of see us as a massive economic opportunity zone
to be exploited, not to be cherished, not to be
assimilated into. And one thing about the Democrats where this
is so valuable to them is the people that they're
bringing in are much more open to the idea of

(57:00):
being governed by socialists. They're much more open to the
idea of what do they call it, group economics. Remember
when the NBA allowed all these social justice messages on
the jerseys and a number of players like choose love
and racism, all of that, and then they had group

(57:20):
economics economic that is socialist, that is literally socialism. When
they talk about group economics, it's like, let's pool our
resources as a black people, as a Hispanic people, as
a Muslim people in this country and let's have our
own little socialist fiefdoms. Well, that's exactly what's going on

(57:43):
in these enclaves of New York City and dearborn Michigan.
Where you have got in Minneapolis with Somali immigrants, apparently
eighty percent of whom are getting some form of government assistance.
And what we've learned over the last six seven months
is that a significant percentage are defrauding the American welfare state. Well,

(58:06):
now you're starting to see whether or not these people
are coming into the country and being allowed to vote
or granted citizenship. And this, by the way, is exactly
what democrats are talking about when they talk about needing
a pathway to citizenship for the people coming into this country.
They want more and more and more left wing democrats

(58:27):
elected by people who are not born in this country
aren't particularly fond of it, and electing people who also
might or might not have been born in this country,
might or might not have any fondness for anything about
America or its values, but simply want to take over
and simply want to get socialism into the American governing

(58:53):
bloodstream by force, by conquest, if you will. Much more
on this and how it relates to Wisconsin. It is
not just Francesca Hank and Mandela Barnes. We'll get into
that in just a second. Dan o'donald show, coming right back,
Welcome back. It is the Dan o'donald Show. Yes I

(59:15):
know it's New York. Yes, I know they are about
the most left wing radical place on Earth. But less
than a year after electing a socialist in Zorn Mamdani
to lead New York City, you had a bona fide
socialist takeover of the Democratic Party across New York.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Not just in the.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
City, but in pretty much every primary in Albany, in
New York City, all across the state. You are going
to see a massive influx of Democrat Socialists of America
representing New Yorkers in the state legislature and in Congress.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
This is the Dan o'donald Show. It is a tour
de force of truth.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
And the truth is that this, folks, doesn't just happen
because you have generational splits in American born people who
are suddenly much more receptive to communism, to open communism.
This happens because of mass migration. When you import, especially

(01:00:20):
in places like New York, when you import a whole
lot of people who in their home countries are used
to this style of governance that they're used to much
more if not overt socialist tyrants. In Central and South America,
you are getting people who are used to much more

(01:00:43):
left wing socialist style governance wherever it is that they're
coming from. Do you think that Democrats would just open
the doors to America if they thought that all of
the people that they're letting in would be voting Republican. Well,
the one thing that we are learning is that a
lot of the illegal immigrants, so a lot of the

(01:01:05):
people who are coming in either illegally or legally from
Mexico and other places in Central America, either they or
their children who again, of course, because of birthright citizenship
in the fourteenth Amendment, they are American citizens. They're increasingly Republican.

(01:01:25):
And one of the things that you're seeing, it's actually
kind of a remarkable split, is in places like that
because it is a very very deeply Catholic religious, family
oriented tradition, you're seeing the people who have been in
this country for quite some time. I'm saying for you know, ten, fifteen,

(01:01:48):
twenty years or so, they're saying, hey, you know what,
just like everybody else, the Democratic Party has gone completely nuts.
They are running contra to traditional American values. They don't
represent us. They want to tax us way too much,
they want to impose way too much governmental control. But

(01:02:10):
you're seeing that conflict with the people who were brought
into this country under Joe Biden. And we have no idea.
It might be ten million, it might be fifteen million.
Best guess is probably somewhere in the eight million to
twelve million range. All of them suddenly coming into this
country within a four year stretch. That can't help but

(01:02:33):
sort of change the electoral dynamics and the cultural dynamics
of this country, and especially the places in this country
where you're seeing the heaviest influx of migration. And even
if none of those migrants ever cast a ballot, even
if they're never voting, remember they are still counted for

(01:02:55):
purposes of the census. And that is what my theory
is as to the biggest reason that Democrats wanted so
many people into this country in such a short period
of time, and why the Biden administration spent so much
time ferrying them across the country, across state lines to
sort of drop them in random places. Is because they

(01:03:16):
understand that because of the failed policies that have been
enacted in states like New York and California and Illinois
by Democrats, by increasingly left wing socialist Democrat governors and legislatures,
people are moving out of those states. For the very
successful ones like Florida and Texas that have gotten increasingly republican,

(01:03:40):
they have gotten much much rheter in a very short
period of time, and the Democratic states are going to
lose a tremendous amount of voting power in the Congress
and Electoral College votes simply because Americans are fleeing the
states where communism is on the rise. Things going to

(01:04:00):
happen to New York with more communists in government, Obviously,
people are going to leave. The policies are inevitably going
to fail, as they're already kind of failing under Zora.
On Mamdani, it has not taken a whole lot of
time at all for us to see actual results. And

(01:04:21):
we'll get to the Mamdani Wisconsin tie coming.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Up shortly here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
But the broader issue here is that Democrats are absolutely
trying to ward off these demographic shifts that are really
of their own making. People are leaving blue cities at
massive numbers because what happened since twenty twenty. People no

(01:04:46):
longer need to work in big office buildings in say
downtown Milwaukee or Chicago or New York City. They no
longer need to go out to Silicon Valley. You no
longer need to anywhere you can work remotely, and people
are choosing to avoid the places that Democrats have destroyed.

(01:05:07):
So you're seeing the blue areas, the blue cities, and
the blue states get bluer, the red states get redder,
and Democrats see this coming because there are more people
moving to these big red states after the twenty thirty census.
It is very likely, you know, we've talked about the

(01:05:28):
blue Wall that the Democrats can hold on to Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,
and Michigan, and if they hold those Republican in order
to win the presidency, you need to win at least
one of the blue Wall states. Well, one of the
problems is the Blue Wall, the Upper Midwest, the Rust Belt.

(01:05:49):
Those states tend to swing together and decide the election. Well,
if the projections on the census are correct, in the
twenty thirty two presidential election, the first one. After the
twenty thirty census, the twenty thirty one redistricting, Republicans will
no longer need to win any of the Blue Wall states.
Democrats will be able to sweep Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.

(01:06:14):
And if Republicans just hold on to Georgia, North Carolina,
and Arizona, they win the presidency because of all of
the votes that are moving from New York and California
and Illinois and blue states into Florida, into Texas, into
red states. At least those are the projections right now.
That's why Democrats need to get as many people as

(01:06:36):
humanly possible to try to blunt the impact of this.
The problem is, as they're importing people, those people are
much more likely to vote for the policies that are
causing even more people to leave the states. So by
the twenty forty census you may see this shift even
more pronounced. Now, of course all bets are off. If

(01:07:00):
the communists take control at the national level, then you'll
see everything they've been promising to do. Pack the Supreme
Court add states left and right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Puerto Rico. They keep saying, Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
That's completely unconstitutional because you can't carve up pieces of
another state to make a new state. And that's exactly
what happened a couple of centuries ago to make Washington
d C. Washington DC constitutionally cannot be a state.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
But it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
If you pack the Supreme Court the Supreme Court, if
it's got a whole bunch of radical left communist liberals,
if you've got another five Katanji Brown Jackson's on the court,
you can do whatever you want. Democrats want to have
permanent control, and they see this as sort of the
first step. You get people into this country who are

(01:07:49):
going to vote for you or are going to change
the demographics and who are going to change the fundamental
culture of major areas of this country and thenally the
country itself. And of course if you point out this,
this obvious truth, if you point out any of this,
Democrats will say, well, that's great replacement theory, that's horribly racist. Well,

(01:08:14):
it's been pretty open that this concept of demographics is destiny.
This is what Democrats have been saying for a quarter
century now, because the next generation, every subsequent generation, they thought, folks,
they thought there was going to be a permanent Obama
majority in this country of black, Hispanic immigrant and children

(01:08:38):
of immigrant voters, white college educated liberals, that there was
never going to be a chance that Republicans would ever
win the presidency again. Why because they were eventually going
to turn Texas blue through immigration, not through changing minds,
but through literally changing the voter base. And that there
was never going to be Now, of course, Donald Trump

(01:08:59):
changed all that, but it doesn't change the overall march
that we're on to. I fear an increasingly polarized, divided
United States where you have got people who are much
more open to things that are fundamentally very, very bad

(01:09:21):
for this country. I've actually got the data to back
that up. And how this all ties into Wisconsin in
quite possibly the most contentious congressional race in the entire country.
We will get to that when The Dan o'donald Show
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It is the Dan o'donald's Show to make you feel
quite a bit better about America after you know, scaring
you all hour this hour about the rise of socialism
in New York and across the country. It is a
very big thing, and folks, this is a broad trend.
We talked in the three o'clock hour about the biggest
issue in the broader trends with respect to data centers

(01:10:05):
and AI and all of that. Politically, you want to
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new technology and dominance over it, in dominance of this
new American century and new American millennium. It is the

(01:10:29):
rise of socialism. It is the rise of people who
fundamentally don't believe in American exceptionalism, greatness or the belief
that the world is a better place when America is
leading the way. So we are going to restore your faith.
It is a It is a combined effort on our

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I can't say new and a Gallup poll from last
September finds that while US adults are more likely to

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have a positive view of capitalism than socialism, Democrats feel differently. Yeah,
no kidding. Just forty two percent now view capitalism favorably,
while sixty six percent two thirds have a positive view
of socialism. By contrast, just fourteen percent of Republicans view

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socialism favorably, which boggles my mind. Who exactly are these
fourteen percent of Republicans? They really should be Democrats. Thirty
eight percent of Independence view socialism favorably. According to Gallup's release,
this is last September, and of course this is tied
to the rise of Zoron Mamdani. Capitalism's image has slipped

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with US adults overall since twenty twenty one, and the
results show a gradual but persistent shift in Democrat support
for the two ideologies over the past fifteen years, with
socialism rising as capitalism falls. Well, why do you suppose
that capitalism has slipped with US adults specifically since twenty
twenty one. What's started in twenty twenty one, Yeah, the

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opening of America's borders, so that a whole lot of
people from outside this country can come right on in.
People who just happen to have a much more positive
view of socialism than people who were born in this country.
People who are American citizens, even naturalized American citizens, are
much more likely to have a dim view of socialism

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than people who are just kind of coming in. And
this isn't just in New York. This isn't just in
the big socialist enclaves. I will remind you that even
in western Wisconsin you see socialism on the rise. Rebecca Cook,
Democrat candidate in the all important third congressional district who

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is challenging for a second time. Derek Van Orden, very
very good incumbent Republican congressman, great friend of the Dan
o'donald show. We love Derek here on the Dan o'donald Show.
Rebecca Cook, who just pretends to be oh, she's a waitress,
she's just Becky from the block. She'd you know, just
a lacrosse girl. No, she is a communist. She is

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a socialist. She is a longtime dem operative who actually
worked for none other than Kirk Bangstad. And Bangstad actually
accused her of stealing his donor list for the super
pack that he has now dissolved, primarily because I think
people were starting to look into it as it was

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essentially operating as a scam pack. So he was actually
on social media a couple months ago, month or two
ago accusing Rebecca Cook of stealing his donor list. That
seems like a big deal. Well, Cook endorsed zorn Mom
Donnie for mayor over at Andrew Cuomo, ciding very clearly

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with the socialists. Now, what has happened since the socialist
takeover of New York City, Well, Mom Donnie had to
get a four billion dollar bailout paid for by New
York State taxpayers because of how bad the budget deficit was. Now,
of course he blamed Eric Adams, the former mayor, for all.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Of this, and he.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Is still doubling down on the failed policies and excesses
of the Democrat left leaning, socialist leaning Adams administration by
enacting city run grocery stores. How about this, those city
run grocery stores, they cost four times the normal price

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to build. Remember the city owned daycare that he was promising,
the free child Yeah, that's for city employees only, and
it's going to cost New York tax payers more than
twice as much as privately owned daycares. On crime, since

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Mom Donnie was elected, murders on the subway system are up,
Assaults on New York police officers are up. There are
random stabbing attacks, attempted terror attacks. How about immigration? This
is where New York is And and Mam Donnie keeps

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saying this over and over and over again, continually reaffirming
his position ice needs to be abolished. He is going
to double down on sanctuary city policies. Rebecca Cook believes
the exact same thing. She says, uh, the the no

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tax on tips, no tax on overtime, increasing the child
tax credit here in the state. She calls this sick,
the one big beautiful bill sick.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
On crime. Direct quote Rebecca Cook.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
When it comes to policing, I'm a proponent of allocating
greater funds to root causes of the issue rather than
brute police enforcement on immigration. She said, the way the
Trump administration has been using ice across our communities is
disgusting and wrong. She believes the exact same thing that

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Zoron Mandani and the Socialists believe. She's just hiding it
because she knows that the electorate will not if it
learns how radically left wing she actually.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Is, support her and elect her to Congress.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
This is the exact same thing that the six Democrats,
the four non socialist Democrats here in Wisconsin, have been
doing the entire campaign. They believe in almost the exact
same things as Francesca hon just as Rebecca Cook believes
almost the exact same things as Zoron Mamdani. They have

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to placate their socialist base. This is why that WISDAM
candidate forum this week was so incredibly instructive, because every
one of the six Democrats is raising the little sign saying,
yes they want to give drivers' licenses and in state
college tuition to illegal aliens. Yes, they absolutely want to

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get rid of two eighty seven g agreements cooperation with
federal immigration officials. They believe in the exact same stuff
as the socialists. This is why we as Wisconsinites cannot,
under any circumstances allow them to take power. You're listening

(01:18:52):
to the Dan O'Donnell Show. We'll be right back after this.
We are now about a week, week and a half
from America's two hundred fiftieth birthday, and we are celebrating
here on The Dan o'donald Show with special programming each
and every day that we are on the air. Wisconsin's place,

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it's unique place in the American story. A great piece available.
It's part of a series, first part of a series
by Alyssa Whitmore, one of our great writers over at
the Heartland Post. You can check out her work at
Heartlandpost dot com. We are going to get to that
in just a second here on the Dan o'donald Show.

(01:19:38):
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check it out, like for example today in the three
o'clock hour, I think we provided a valuable service if
I do say so myself. No, I'm not going to
separate my shoulder patting myself on the back here, but
this is something that needs to be said because we
have got we are sort of at the forefront here

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in Wisconsin on the debate over data centers. Because you
just had the one from Microsoft in Mount Pleasant, very
very big one, go online. You have got the battles
over these data centers in unities across the state. And
because of our unique position geographically, we are a perfect
place for data center construction and this has the potential

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to be a brand new economy for this state. But
there is a whole lot of misinformation out there that
is causing people not to have a rational opposition to it.
I think opposition to data centers if it is based
on a realistic understanding of what they are, what they do,
and the impact on communities, that's perfectly fine. I completely

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understand the problem though, is that there is a tremendous
amount of just deliberate half truths or outright lies, and
we need to all be on the same page in
order to intelligently debate in the four o'clock hour. The
rise of socialism last night was something of a watershed moment.
I think the mask is completely off the Democrat Party

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right now. Just ten fifteen years ago they bristled when
you called them socialists. Now they fully embrace this is
the party of socialists in New York City, yes, but
also here in Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
You missed any of that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Listen to the Dan O'Donnell show podcast on iHeart Radio
all right every day from now until the fourth of July,
and I will be up front, ladies and gentlemen. I'm
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I'm a massive soccer fan. I'm taking the kids to

(01:23:31):
the World Cup. We're going to see the USA Turkey
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very very fun. Yes, we will have you pictures and
stuff on social media, but I believe Matt Kittle is
going to be filling in. We are going to hopefully
have some America two fifty programming with him. But certainly

(01:23:52):
when I am back Monday, folks, I had an opportunity,
relatively last minute to do this once in a lifetime
thing to see Team USA play in the World Cup.
So we're heading out there tomorrow to watch. So I
will be gone, but don't worry. We have got great
programming on the way. So each and every day we

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are doing special programming reflecting on America, who we are,
who we've been, and today our heartland.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
Post writer Alyssa Whitmore reflects in a series America two
fifty Wisconsin's chapter in the American Story on just what
we as a state have done for the United States.
She writes.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
On July fourth, twenty twenty six, Americans will celebrate the
nation's semi quincentennial, the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of
the adoption of the Declaration of Independence. The nation's founding
story begins in Philadelphia, but the American experiment has always
been about more than a single day or a sing document.

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It is a story that has unfolded across generations, states
and communities across our country as Americans have worked to
preserve and expand the ideals of liberty, equality, and self government.
Wisconsin's chapter in that story began long before it became
the thirtieth state in eighteen forty eight. Prior to European settlement,

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Native nations, including the ho Chunk, Menominee, Oneida, Ojibwe, Potawatomy, Stockbridge, Munsey,
and Brothertown peoples called this region home. Their histories and
traditions and contributions remain an essential part of Wisconsin's identity
and provide an important reminder that the story of America

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stretches back thousands of years before independence was declared. Following
the Revolutionary War, the land that would become Wisconsin was
incorporated into the Northwest Territory. The Northwest Ordinance of seventeen
eighty sevenablished principles of self government, public education, and prohibited

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slavery in the territory, ideas that reflected the promise of
the newly formed republic and helped shape the future Midwest.
As Wisconsin grew, it became a destination for immigrants seeking
opportunity in freedom. German, Scandinavian, Polish, Irish, and other immigrant
communities helped build the state's farms, businesses, churches, and civic institutions,

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contributing to the diverse fabric of American life. One of
Wisconsin's most significant contributions to the nation came during the
struggle over slavery. In eighteen fifty four, escaped slave Joshua
Glover was arrested in Milwaukee under the Fugitive Slave Act.
Outraged citizens organized to dramatic rescue, helping Glover escape to freedom.

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The ensuing legal back led the Wisconsin Supreme Court to
challenge the constitutionality of the Fugitive Slave Act, placing Wisconsin
at the forefront of resistance to slavery in the years
leading up to the Civil War. Wisconsin's role in the
national debate over slavery extended beyond courtroom battles and acts

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of resistance. In March of eighteen fifty four, a group
of anti slavery activists gathered at the Little White Schoolhouse
in Rippon to discuss the expansion of slavery into the
Western territories following passage of the Kansas Nebraska Act. During
that meeting, participants proposed the formation of a new political party,

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the Republican Party, dedicated to opposing the spread of slavery.
The gathering in Rippon is widely recognized as the party's
founding moment and remains an important chapter in American political history.
The ideas discussed within the walls of the Little White
Schoolhouse would soon grow into a national movement. Just six

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years later, the Republican Party elected its first President, Abraham Lincoln,
whose life leadership would guide the nation through the Civil
War and the abolition of slavery. Today, the Rippon Schoolhouse
stands as a reminder of Wisconsin's influence on one of
the most consequential political realignments in American history. When war

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finally erupted, Wisconsinites answered the call. More than ninety thousand
Wisconsin soldiers served in the Union Army fighting to preserve
the nation and ultimately end slavery, and nearly twelve thousand
Wisconsinites died. Their sacrifice helped ensure the ideals expressed in

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the Declaration of Independence would endure. Wisconsin's influence on the
American experiment didn't end on the battlefield. In the early
twentieth century, the state became nationally recognized for pioneering government reforms.
Under Republican Governor Robert M. Lafollett Senior. The Wisconsin idea

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promoted the belief that government should be account to the
people and informed by knowledge and expertise. Many reforms first
championed in Wisconsin, including direct primary elections and greater government transparency,
would later influence policy all.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Across the country.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
In the early twentieth century, Wisconsin emerged as a national
laboratory for democratic reform. Under the leadership of Lefalette and
other reformers, the state challenged political machines and special interests
while championing policies designed to give citizens a greater voice
in government. Wisconsin pioneered direct primaries, strengthened the oversight of

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public utilities, advanced workplace protections, and promoted government accountability.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
To the people.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
These reforms became models for other states and helped shape
the progressive movement that swept across America. The story of
Wisconsin demonstrates that America's found ideals were not confined to
Independence Hall in seventeen seventy six. They were carried forward
by Native communities, immigrants, absolution abolitionists, soldiers, reformers, and ordinary

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citizens who work to build a more perfect union. From
resistance to slavery in the birth of a major political
movement in rippon to Civil War service and groundbreaking democratic
reforms Wisconsin helped shape the nation's ongoing pursuit of liberty, equality,
and self government. As America marks two hundred and fifty

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years of independence, Wisconsin's legacy stands as an enduring example
of that continuing journey. That is part one in a
series that you can read at the Heartland Post from
Alyssa Whitmore just very very well written Part two, which

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is up today right at the top of the site.
I believe it focuses on uniquely Wisconsin innovations that have
contributed to American culture, Like did you know Lincoln Logs
were born here? I will admit I actually had to
learn that from Alyssa's series The American Girl Doll the

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designs of Frank Lloyd Wright. Wisconsin does have a unique
place in the American story. And look no further those
progressive reforms. I mean, I know we today think of okay,
you know it's when we think progressive, we think liberalism.
But no, it was the Republican Party that was the

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Teddy Roosevelt reform Republican Party that really was advancing the
ideas that would eventually become just sort of commonplace. They
would become widely accepted in America, a lot of them
were born here in Wisconsin. And even further in the

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American story, look no further than the nineteen nineties when
Tommy Thompson was the pioneer of school choice. I mean,
this was again a Wisconsin idea that took hold nationwide.
We were the national leader in school choice, in providing
primarily inner city and poorer people in our state with

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the opportunity to get out of failing schools. And not
only that, not only that, the nineteen nineties saw a
huge well of reform of welfare again that was led
by the Thompson government here in Wisconsin. Welfare to work,
welfare reform, just an accountability again, if there is one

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word to describe Wisconsin's contribution, it would be accountability. It
would be sort of serving as the nation's conscience. I mean,
look no further than the founding of the Republican Party.
That was sort of a direct result of the Joshua
Glover insect. And in fact, my friend Michael jar made

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a tremendous film, a documentary film about that about how
the Joshua Glover story led to those reformers who were
seeing what was going on in Milwaukee watching this court
battle and realizing, hey, you know what, we really need
to take this fight beyond just you know, protests in
the streets and you know, helping fugitive slaves. We need

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to organize as a political movement and then to gather
in in that schoolhouse in Rippin and to say, okay, well,
all of the opposition parties standing up to the dominant
Democrats in the South who were who were advancing things
like the Kansas Nebraska Act, and they were trying to

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expand slavery into the territories. We need to directly take
them on. If we have, you know, the splintered factions
that sort of organize into this loose election of parties
that only serve to split the abolitionist vote, to split
the anti Democrat vote, we're never going to win elections. Well,

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the very first Republican candidate that ever ran for president
was Abraham Lincoln, and he is widely considered to be
the greatest president in the history of this country. He
isn't elected. The Civil War potentially never happens, and frankly,

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slaves are almost certainly never freed or not freed for
a long time. I think ultimately Civil War was inevitable
regardless of whether Lincoln was elected, But it was the
election of Abraham Lincoln that prompted the Southern states to secede,
starting with South Carolina. A little more than a month
after the election, they realized, Okay, this abolitionist, this Yankee,

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he is going to take away our slaves.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
We can't stomach this.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
It's inevitable that that sl is going to be abolished,
which again Emancipation Proclamation. They were not wrong in eighteen
sixty three when Lincoln decided that the war was no
longer just about states rights and state sovereignty and the
nature of federalism, but it was about liberty and equality

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and justice for all. All of that started, that whole idea,
that whole party, that coalesced into a political movement that
started in Wisconsin. And that's something to be insanely proud of.
I mean that, to me is our biggest contribution. That
re birthed the Party of Liberty and the Party of Freedom.

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We provided that accountability for what even Democrats admit was
the single greatest evil in this country's history, the West
African slave trade, the enslavement of other human beings. Well,
Wisconsin provided the political and moral check on that, and
then the accountability through the progressive reforms, not just in

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the early fighting bottle of folllet days, but also straight
through to Tommy Thompson. I think I would be remiss
if I didn't say, very recent history, one of the
single biggest reforms that any state has seen at ten,
collective bargaining reform bringing the state back from the brink
of financial ruin. Under Governor Scott Walker, we have a

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long proud tradition providing accountability for the government bureaucracy, saying no,
we are going to not allow public employees to simply
get benefits handed to them by taxpayers who frankly can
no longer afford to pay the freight of people who
are paying nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
You pay what you owe.

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
To borrow a phrase from the left, you pay your
fair shared Does that sound familiar, Libs. That's what Governor
Walker was saying. And you take a look at the
massive protest movement that followed in February of twenty eleven,
we just marked fifteen years for that. That sort of
portended the massive demonstrations and protests of the years that

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would follow. The racial justice movement that started just a
couple of years later with Trayvon Martin and the hands up,
don't shoot Ferguson Missouri, and then of course the big
one in twenty twenty that lefties kind of galvanized and
organized all get together, all of course being organized by

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the labor unions and by left wing five oh one
c three groups, none of it being totally organic. Of course,
the protest, the at ten protests in twenty eleven, it
was hilarious because they sort of petered out on the weekends.
All the teachers who showed up at the state capitol,

(01:38:05):
they didn't want to actually miss a weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
They just wanted to, you know, miss work.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
So again, Heartlandpost dot Com great first entry in the
series America two fifty. Wisconsin's place in the American story
is up Heartlandpost dot Com. Great job by our writer
Alyssa Whitmore. Why is it that so many Americans don't
seem to be jazzed or pumped up about the America

(01:38:35):
two fifty A new Marquette University Law School poll shows
that kind of a shocking number of people have no
idea that it's America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday. We
will dive into that when The Dan o'donald Show returns.
Welcome back to is the Dan o'donald Show. As we
celebrate America's two hundred fiftieth birthday. I'll tell you what,

(01:38:55):
how about we give away another four pack of tickets
to Festa Taliana. I'm feeling in a celebratory mood, right
We got the history of Wisconsin, we got the history
of Milwaukee, the city of festivals. Are ethnic festivals an
indelible part of our tradition here in Milwaukee and Wisconsin.
We've got a four pack of tickets to Festa Italiana

(01:39:18):
right now to give away once again, in honor of
America's two hundred and fiftieth, we will take caller number
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Caller number twenty five wins a four pack of tickets
to Festa Italyiana. New Marquette University Law School pull out

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shows some surprising numbers about the America two fiftieth celebration.
Just twenty six percent of Americans have read or heard
a lot about the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of
the Declaration of Independence coming on July fourth. Another fifty
seven percent and say they have heard some about the

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semi quin centennial, while seventeen percent have heard nothing at
all about it. I am continually amazed at some people's
almost willful refusal to consume any news whatsoever. This pattern

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Marquette found was actually relatively closely followed fifty years ago
on the two hundredth anniversary of the declaration. In a
Roper Organization pool conducted June twelfth through the nineteenth nineteen
seventy six, twenty eight percent said they were following news
about the bi centennial closely, with fifty percent following casually

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and twenty two percent paying no attention. Raw data from
the seventy six survey provided by the ROPERCENTA Data zo
Percenter Data Archive at Cornell analys conducted analysis conducted rather
by the Marquette University Law School poll staff. Now in

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twenty twenty six. Interest in the two hundred and fiftieth
is also mixed. Just seventeen percent say they are very
interested and another thirty nine percent are fairly interested, while
thirty one percent are not too interested and thirteen percent
are not at all interested. Here too, the similarity to

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the nineteen seventy six roper pool is striking eighteen percent
very interested, forty three percent fairly interested, twenty six percent
not too interested, and eleven percent not at all interested. Now,
what do you think the biggest substantial difference is from
fifty years ago to today? Of course, it's the partisan divide.

(01:41:55):
We have found poll after poll after poll this year,
the Patrioti survey from last year, all finding Democrats are
no longer proud to be American Democrats are no longer
waiving the flag on the fourth of July or flying
the flag at any point. And here too, the Marquette
University Law School poll finds the exact thing. Those who

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strongly approve of Trump are most likely to say they
are very or fairly interested in the two hundred and
fiftieth celebration, while interest declines as approval declines. So if
you are very strongly supportive of Trump, well, then guess what.

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You are also very strongly supportive of America's two hundred fiftieth. Now,
to my knowledge, I'm not seeing this broken down by
Republican and Democrat, but you are also seeing the Marquette

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poll showing the exact same splits in the idea that
America is a great country and that America is living
up to its ideals. How about this, America. This is
the question asked by the Marquette Pool. America is better
than most countries by party identification, age, race, and country.

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They are asked, is America better than most countries? Strongly
or somewhat agree? Ninety three percent of Republicans say yes, absolutely,
America is better than most countries. Democrats just sixty two
percent say America is better than most countries. Thirty eight
percent of Democrats say no, no, no, no, no. Most

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other countries on planet Earth are better than the United
States of America. Again, another question, how much of the
ideals of the revolution have been achieved? A great deal
or a fair amount? Republicans eighty three percent, Democrats sixty

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three percent, how about this? The country still represents the
ideals of the founding. Now, this is where it gets interesting,
because Republicans are saying, yes, we have moved far away
because of the ideals of the socialists, the ideals of
Democrats who have taken us farther away. So just twenty

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two percent say it still represents the ideals of the
founding seventeen percent of Democrats say the same thing. Here's
the big one, pride in who we are as a country.
People who say they are very or somewhat proud of America.

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Eighty eight percent of rept Republicans say yes, we are
very or somewhat proud of who we are as a country.
Less than half of Democrats. Forty nine percent say we're
very or somewhat proud. Fifty one percent say not very

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and not at all proud. As you could imagine, there
is a significant age gap. People who are sixty plus
very proud of this country, forty five to fifty nine
very proud of this country. It starts slipping in my
generation thirty to forty four, and then there is another

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pronounced drop eighteen to twenty nine. Those are Democrats. The
younger people are typically Democrats. You also see the favorability
of figures from the founding era and Marquette. This is
actually kind of interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:46:00):
They do.

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Aaron Burr. Benedict Arnold
is up there. As you can imagine, he is a
minus thirty eight. Aaron Burr also minus fifteen I think
everybody knows Aaron Burr from the play Hamilton. Not many
people know what Burr was up to after he killed Hamilton.

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In that duel, he actually conspired against the United States.
He was planning to it was called the Burr Conspiracy.
He was actually planning to seize a portion of the
territories for himself and basically kind of set up a
new nation with himself as the leader. That really really
the Hamilton duel sort of made him a villain, but

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it was the Burr conspiracy that really did it. The
favorability of historical figures, especially those who are considered to
be like slave owners Thomas jeff Hute. If you are
a conservative seventy seven percent approval of Thomas Jefferson, liberal
just thirty eight percent. You have got George Washington eighty

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percent support among conservative eighty eight percent. I was saying
net favorable minus unfair favorable eighty eight percent among Republicans.
That number drops to seventy four percent among Democrats. So
it's another again fascinating look at this country, the favorability

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of this country. It is also tied into whether you're
pumped up about America's two fiftieth again, this goes back
to what we were talking about in that four o'clock hour.
It is all tied into the rise of this this
race based socialist communist movement that is having terrible impact

(01:47:56):
on this country's the view of this country by people
who live in this country. In other words, we've got
a whole lot of people who don't like this country
very much, and increasingly they're getting into positions of power
and influence, and their anti American, pro socialist, pro communist

(01:48:18):
ideas are starting to take hold. Remember Harry Enton, CNN
poll guru last week, I thought this was just a
phenomenal observation that the first time the Gallop Patriotism survey
was done was January of two thousand and one. We
had just come off the most contentious election in American history,
Bush v.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
Gore.

Speaker 1 (01:48:38):
Yet you still add eighty five percent of Democrats saying
they were proud of this country. Pride in the country
was independent of politics, and I maintained that it still is. Democrats,
of course, are telling pollsters as at a slightly greater clip,
that they're proud to be American when Democrats control the
White House. But it is this movement, it is and

(01:49:01):
I think folks also, tying back into our discussion last hour,
I don't think you can separate the fact that what
is another big change from twenty five years ago, You
have got millions and millions and millions of people in
this country who were not born here, who came here
illegally or legally, and really have much more of a

(01:49:23):
sense of loyalty and pride in the nation.

Speaker 2 (01:49:26):
Ironically enough that they left.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
They say, let's say they're Colombian, right, they come from Colombia.
They're much more likely to fly the Colombian flag and
a root for Colombia in the World Cup than the
United States of America. Well, if Colombia was so great,
you'd still be there, right.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
I think the greatest.

Speaker 1 (01:49:49):
Testament to the power and majesty and might and greatness
and fundamental goodness of America is the fact that even
people who don't like us all that much refuse to leave.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
Think about that for a second. All of the people
in these polls who are saying.

Speaker 1 (01:50:07):
Yeah, we don't really like America, we're not really proud
to be American. Okay, Well why don't you go live
in Colombia. No, you can't make us go we're gonna
go to a federal judge.

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
How dare you make us leave America?

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
Yeah, that pretty much says everything you need to hear
about where we really are in terms of the love
of this country. Dan o'donald's show, coming right back in
just a second. Dan o'donald's show, intelligent discourse, irreverent, fun,

(01:50:41):
and we always do have some fun on the program.
Biggest story in Wisconsin continues to be the ramifications from
the Yannis Ntetecumpo trade. Blockbuster deal of course this week,
sending the best player in Bucks franchise history to the
Miami Heat NBA Draft last night. I was a little

(01:51:03):
surprised the Bucks held onto their two picks. They got
the number thirteen overall pick in the Jannis trade, they
already held number ten, and they actually drafted two players,
Brandon Barry's and Nate Aiment, both of whom Aiment is
something of a controversial prospect. Barry's is not. Aj Debonsa
goes first overall to the Washington Wizards Darren Peterson. Not

(01:51:27):
a whole ton of action at the NBA Draft, I
think because the first domino to fall in really that
was holding up all of the league's moves. Was the
honest trade happening so close to the draft, And remember
I don't think the league year begins until July sixth,
so no moves are really official until then. You are

(01:51:50):
going to see a lot of player movement. I actually
thought the Bucks would be much more active on Draft
night than they were. But it does look at least
like they might be building around the younger core of
players that they got back in that Yannis trade. I
guess that the Yannis mural is staying up, at least
for the time being. I liked the idea of just

(01:52:13):
repainting it. A listener suggested yesterday. Repaint it with David
Gruber's face, change it to a David Gruber mural, and
instead of number thirty four for Yannis on the back
of the jersey, change it to one call Gruber. I'm
telling you, I know, marketing, this is an incredible opportunity.
I'm hidding, of course. One thing I did notice though

(01:52:36):
at the NBA Draft, and this I was not the
only one. As I'm watching the draft last night, something
really stuck out to me. I believe everyone of the
first ten to about fifteen players in the NBA draft.
I did not notice any exceptions, but again I wasn't

(01:53:00):
watching super closely. I think every single one had their
dad there cheering them on as they got drafted. Debonsa,
the number one pick, thanked his dad. Darren Peterson. There
was a very funny moment where he and his dad
were doing a joint interview with ESPN, and he actually

(01:53:23):
told his dad was holding the microphone too far away
from his mouth and you couldn't hear it. And Peterson, obviously,
who has been interviewed quite a bit in his life,
go dad, put the microphone closer to your mouth. It's
just kind of acute moment between father and son. It
just it goes to show you, I think, if you
want to succeed beyond your wildest dreams in America, the

(01:53:49):
biggest thing, the biggest advantage you can have, it's not,
you know, being white or not being affected by America's
systemic racism. It's having a father in the home. It's
having a functional family. And I'm not saying, and never
have said, I myself came from a divorced home. My
parents divorced when I was about fifteen years old, or

(01:54:11):
at least separated when I was fifteen years old. I
think my brothers and I turned out just fine because
obviously my father very much involved then as now. Grandpa
was at every sporting event and still is for the grandkids.
It's about having a functional home life, functional family life,

(01:54:33):
and this is a market change I think from years past.
And I'm not going to suggest that absentee fatherism is
no longer a major problem, particularly in the black community,
because it is based on a very small sample size
of ten to fifteen top NBA draft prospect but I

(01:54:56):
am saying that that was it was noticeable. I mean,
it was noticeable that you had so many primarily black
athletes with their dad's present that, folks, I don't even
need to run down the stats about just what an
advantage that is. You are infinitely less likely to join

(01:55:19):
a gang, to engage in criminal activity if you are
a woman, if you're a girl, you're much less likely
to engage in criminal activity, much less likely to be
sexually promiscuous, to have premarital or sex when you're not
ready to have a baby out of wedlock. Teen pregnancy

(01:55:41):
drops dramatically with a father in the home. I don't
know if there's ever been a study on the rate
of only fans pages among young women who have fathers
versus no fathers in present in the lives. But I'm
willing to wager one of the biggest determined to starting

(01:56:01):
and only fans for young women and getting in a
sex industry is the fact that the dad would be mortified.
I could not imagine any woman with a father president
saying yes, I'm going to start an only fans and
everybody my dad's friends could theoretically see me nude online.

(01:56:25):
Every deviant behavior, every anti social behavior that is.

Speaker 2 (01:56:32):
Possible drops dramatically.

Speaker 1 (01:56:35):
School dropouts, teen runaways drop dramatically with a father in
the home. I mean, this is the thing that it
got cliched, and we have seen. We have seen tremendous strides.
Teen pregnancy is way down in America. Teen alcohol consumption

(01:56:57):
rates way down. I think that is function of way
more teenagers are experimenting with marijuana.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
They're vaping.

Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
It's just way easier to get other drugs pills than
it ever was before, and alcohol is just not the
easiest vice to get a hold of. But I think
we're starting to see the culture perhaps swing back in
a better, more positive direction because you're starting to see

(01:57:27):
people say, hey, wait a second, Wait a second, we
really need to make sure that we are doing what's
right for the next generation. Ultimately, that's what it's all about.

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
All Right.

Speaker 1 (01:57:41):
We gotta end a little early here. We've been doing
longer segments today. Thank you all so much, and I
am off, as I said, the next couple of days,
taking the kids to see the World Cup.

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
Go Team USA.

Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
I will be back Monday and we will do it
all again right here on The Dan Donald Show.

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