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September 9, 2026 • 122 mins
On Wednesday's "Dan O'Donnell Show," Dan breaks a bombshell story: Democratic gubernatorial nominee David Crowley has over the past two years spent hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to lobby for even more taxpayer money for legal aid for illegal immigrants as well as a series of radical pro-illegal and anti-ICE bills.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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President Trump wheels up on Air Force One as he
is headed down to Dallas to headline the first night

(00:20):
of the midterm convention. That's the first time either party
has ever done something like this. Think of it as
like the presidential nominating convention the Republicans had theirs in
Milwaukee two years ago, only for the midterms. This is
designed to generate interest in the midterm elections, designed to
try to get turnout of non-traditional voters, voters who in

(00:42):
the past have really only turned out in presidential elections,
buoying President Trump to wins in 2016 and 2024, but
essentially staying home and costing Republicans money in both 2018
and 2022. Will it be successful? Ultimately, we're not going
to know until November 3rd. So we will be providing

(01:03):
coverage of the midterm convention. For those asking, and a
lot of people have been asking if I was going
to be down there, I was in fact invited to
provide coverage down at the midterm convention. I sort of figured, frankly,
I would be better off here. And I don't know.
I really didn't want to travel. Now, Democrats, of course,

(01:25):
are going to use that as evidence that Trump's convention
is going to be a big flop. They have already
been asking pretty much every Republican, are you going to attend?
Are you going to be there, Republicans? Because if not,
that means that you are breaking with Trump or maybe
that you recognize that that President Trump is so historically
unpopular you can't possibly be seen at his convention. We

(01:49):
will deal with that at the Daily Trump Date. That's
coming up about an hour from now here on the
Dan O'Donnell Show. We've got a whole lot to get to,
but we begin with a pretty big exclusive story. Milwaukee
County Executive David Crowley, who is now the Democratic nominee

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for governor, directed Milwaukee County's lobbyists at taxpayer expense to
lobby the state legislature in support of a bill that
would have created essentially a standing pot of taxpayer money
for immigration legal services available to illegal immigrants. This, according

(02:32):
to state lobbying records obtained exclusively by me. 2025 Assembly
Bill 475 was introduced by Socialist Democratic Rep. Ryan Clancy
and co-sponsored by fellow socialist Francesca Hong, would have required

(02:53):
the Department of Administration to award grants to community-based organizations
for civil legal aid in immigration matters. The bill's language...
specified that grant recipients must provide services, quote, without regard
to the client's immigration status. It would have established a

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continuing $ 300, 000 in taxpayer-funded appropriations, and organizations such as radical
left-wing illegal immigration group Voces de la Frontera were among
the types of groups that could have received those funds.
Milwaukee County, registered in support of the bill. And remember,

(03:35):
this was just last year. So this is not ancient history.
This is not in the peak woke era of 2020
to about 2024. And Milwaukee County reported more than $ 210, 000
in lobbying expenses during the last legislative session, 2025 to 2026. Now,

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Assembly Bill 475, because it is so radical, as you
could expect, didn't advance in the Republican-controlled Wisconsin legislature. But
Crowley was directing hundreds of thousands of dollars of taxpayer
money while, I might add, Crowley's Milwaukee County was running
about $ 168 million to $ 169 million budget deficit over the

(04:20):
next five years. This is significant because what it reiterates
is that his stance on illegal immigration and making Milwaukee
County and making Wisconsin into a sanctuary jurisdiction, this is
not just campaign rhetoric designed to move to the left
and keep up with Hong. In a very topsy-turvy Democratic primary,

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this is his actual belief structure. Now, the Tom Tiffany
campaign has put out video of Crowley, and this is
actually from Crowley's own TikTok account. of him saying at
the home of a supporter that when it comes to
the lgbtq community when it comes to the illegal immigrant

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committees not just an ally an accomplice.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Will come down to the immigration code of the lgbtq
community always say i'm not an ally i'm an accomplice
i'll be with you no matter what uh.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
well i think he's taking that literally Because it wasn't
just AB 475 that Milwaukee County's taxpayer-funded lobbyists were lobbying
in support of this past session. Assembly Bill 57, another
one co-sponsored by Francesca Hong, would have barred state and

(05:44):
local officials, including law enforcement officials, from helping to detain
people solely on immigration status at designated sensitive locations, churches, hospitals,
and schools. The practical effect of that would have been
to create literal sanctuaries that illegals could have simply ducked into.

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And I don't know, an immigration warrant suddenly has no effect.
Once again, This piece of legislation never saw the light
of day. It was never brought up for a vote
in the full assembly because Republicans controlled the legislature and
essentially were saving Democrats from themselves by not forcing members

(06:27):
to take votes on truly insane legislation. But once again,
you have got Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley, who's supposedly
the moderate in this race. Remember, we have been told like, Democrats,
they came to their senses. They elected the moderate. Francesco Hong,
she's a radical socialist. Yes, we get that. Well, not

(06:50):
only did David Crowley support her legislation, truly radical left-wing
legislation on illegal immigration, he was spending your money lobbying
in support of its passage. Not only that, we found
lobbying records that indicate the Milwaukee County lobbying team also

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supported Assembly Bill 441. Now, this would have been essentially
the same sort of illegal mask prohibition that the city
of Milwaukee passed and is blatantly unconstitutional. This would have
prohibited ICE agents statewide from concealing their faces during arrests

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or operations. Now, Why do you suppose ICE agents feel
the need to conceal their faces while they're conducting operations?
It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that
insane Democrats, including yesterday's unhinged liberal of the day, this
Cal State Los Angeles professor who said, hey, hey, this

(07:57):
ICE agent, this criminal ICE agent is staying at this hotel.
Let's go bleep him up. She was literally doxing an
ICE agent. and over the weekend calling for an audience
at some conference that she was speaking in front of
to go bleep him up. We have all seen what
leftists were doing to ICE agents, FBI agents, and anybody

(08:20):
else during the Battle of Minneapolis in the early portion,
first couple of weeks of this year. ICE agents are terrified,
and many federal agents are terrified of the left-wing mob
that seeks to identify them, seeks to dox them and
their families. David Crowley didn't just come out in support
of Assembly Bill 441, which would have prohibited ICE agents

(08:44):
from protecting themselves from the braying mobs. He paid tax dollars,
your dollars, to lobby for it. Not only that, Milwaukee
County also registering in favor of Assembly Bill 444, which
would have banned state agencies and local governments, including sheriff's departments,

(09:07):
from using their facilities to detain people on the basis
of immigration status. Why is this so significant? Because this
essentially turns pretty much every single community into a sanctuary
community because you can't use your jail to house illegal immigrants.

(09:29):
You are not able to detain people, you're not able
to cooperate with ICE. And naturally, naturally, there was another, another.
David Crowley and his lobbying team at Milwaukee County really
have had a field day coming out in support and
spending taxpayer dollars lobbying in support of truly radical anti-ICE,

(09:53):
pro-illegal immigrant bills, including Assembly Bill 739. This is yet
another one authored by Francesca Hong. It would have ended
what are known as 287G agreements. Those are ones where
local law enforcement is able to partner with ICE and

(10:14):
other federal immigration authorities in order to essentially hold illegal
immigrants for pickup later. It would have also restricted local
law enforcement agencies from assisting ICE in detentions. Again, none
of these pieces of legislation advanced. Republicans controlled the state legislature,
although this should give you a pretty good indication of

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what sort of bills would be on the docket if
Democrats take over the state Senate, take over the state assembly,
and if David Crowley is somehow able to win the
governor's mansion. In fact, Democrats just today are crowing about
the possibility. There is a representative from the Democratic Senate

(10:57):
Leadership Fund, or the DSCC Fund, the Democratic Senate, whatever
the state version of the DSCC is saying, oh, yeah, yeah,
this is the most favorable environment that we've ever had.
And we think that a trifecta is certainly within the
realm of possibility. We believe that a trifecta is going
to happen. Well, this is exactly the sort of package

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of bills that would not just come up for a vote,
but would be passed, would be signed into law. Half
of them, it is very telling, were co-authored or co-sponsored
by Francesca Hong. Now, Crowley has said repeatedly he's not

(11:43):
going to partner with ICE. Again, he's not just a
supporter of illegal immigrant communities. He's also an accomplice. He
would absolutely sign all of these bills into law. In fact,
He's been a staunch supporter throughout his career of increased

(12:04):
benefits for illegal immigrants. He's pushed for driver's licenses for illegals.
He actually co-authored legislation back when he was a state
legislator providing illegals with in-state college tuition subsidized by, yes, you, me,
and every other taxpayer in the state. And he's repeatedly

(12:25):
called for abolishing taxes. In fact, at a recent Democrat
town hall, he was asked, would you as governor end
all support for ICE? This was one of these questions
where Democrats, I love these town halls, where they all
have a little yes or no sign. It's yes in green,

(12:47):
no in red. They're all asked the exact same question.
They hold up their little ping pong paddle. Would you
believe that after this question was asked, David Crowley raised
his paddle even faster than Frannie Hong?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Federal immigration agents have often targeted labor and community leaders.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Would you direct state government agencies to not work with
federal immigration authorities?

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Crowley actually had his paddle up before Hong. This would,
depending upon how exactly the instructions would go, amount to
obstruction of of federal immigration authority. In fact, we broke
this story here on the Dan O'Donnell Show early in 2025,

(13:33):
early in President Trump's second term, that in fact, Governor
Evers was offering illegal advice and illegal directives to all
state employees to essentially, when an ICE agent comes to
a state agency or comes to a state office, You
are to, and I quote, put them in a conference

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room or other non-public area while you get your supervisor
or legal counsel. You're essentially supposed to trap the ICE
agents in the back room and, I don't know, get
all of the illegal immigrants who are apparently working in
state government out the back door? Well, David Crowley, just

(14:20):
like Frannie Hong, Supports this. Now, he was actually just asked, J.R.
Ross of Wispolitics.com, in a recent podcast that he hosted
with all of the Democratic primary opponents, he asked flat out,
David Crowley, as governor, would you cooperate with ICE?

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Do you believe local sheriffs would honor immigration detainers?

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Absolutely not. Absolutely not. In fact, the safest way for
illegal immigration... operations to be conducted is to take illegal
immigrant criminals out of jails why because you know they're
not armed here in wisconsin we had easily the most

(15:03):
famous case actually in david crowley's milwaukee county of what
happens when liberals essentially take the law into their own
hands when ice agents and it wasn't actually an ice
team it was a federal arrest team led by an
fbi agent came to arrest a violent illegal immigrant criminal
who was appearing before Milwaukee County Judge Hannah Dugan. Dugan

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gave the illegal immigrant criminal a heads up, led him
through the jury room door, and attempted to get him
to escape capture. Now, fortunately, one member of that federal
arrest team saw this go down. They were able to
take the guy into custody after he tried running away
from them once he got downstairs and outside of the
courthouse building. But this is precisely the sort of thing

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that keeps agents and keeps illegals and keeps members of
the public safe. When you can go into secure areas
and simply without any musts, without any fuss, arrest illegal immigrants,
it is much, much easier for everyone. And in fact,
this is the big reason that there has been such
a dramatic uptick in enforcement actions. 50,000 illegal immigrants arrested.

(16:17):
taken off the streets just in the last month, and
President Trump is aiming to dramatically increase that, you're not
hearing about it. You're not seeing any of these arrests
because they're taking place very quickly, very safely, and very
quietly so as not to freak out the pro-illegal mob

(16:37):
that apparently is includes milwaukee's county executive as well as
the democratic nominee for governor now if that wasn't enough
as milwaukee county executive we have outlined this throughout the
past couple of years here on the dan o'donnell show
crowley has actually used his social media presence to provide

(16:57):
instructions to the public, specific instructions on how to resist
and obstruct ICE agents. And he even promoted a community
resource hub that provides legal aid to illegal aliens who
break the law. This is about as radical as it gets.
But when you also spend $ 200, 000 plus On lobbying efforts

(17:24):
to try to get state law changed to essentially turn
Wisconsin into a sanctuary state, that's something the entire state
needs to take note of. I did reach out to
the Milwaukee County Executive's office, which, naturally. has not yet
responded to a request for comment on these lobbying efforts.

(17:46):
If and when they do, I will, as you would imagine,
pass that information along to you. But a big exclusive
story broken right here and at the Heartland Post. You
can read it at heartlandpost.com. We've got links to it
on my social media, at Dan O'Donnell Show on X.
at facebook dot com slash dan o'donnell show as well
as milwaukee county executive david crowley spent hundreds of thousands

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of dollars that milwaukee county does not have because it's
running such a massive hundred and sixty nine million dollar
deficit to support a bill that would create a permanent
pot of money for illegal immigrants to be able to
access legal services as well as a host of anti
ice Bills, you're listening to the Dan O'Donnell Show. We

(18:33):
took a look at some of the lobbying efforts that
Milwaukee County, Milwaukee County has paid lobbyists. Do you know this,
that you are paying for Milwaukee County to lobby the
state legislature on priorities of the county executive? Well, this
county executive, what's this? Oh, producer Dave Michaels asks, is
this county, is this common, I should say, And I

(18:57):
like how you just get right back on the saddle
of just interrupting my train of thought. I feel like belling,
and I'm about to start yelling at Paul. No, that
is an excellent question. I'm teasing you, buddy. We always
love getting the band back together. My longtime producer, one
of my very best friends in this business, Dave Michaels,
who apparently is going to go right from work. I'm

(19:19):
asking him, hey, are you going to do anything for
the NFL season opener tonight? Believe it or not, the
NFL is opening on Monday. Hump Day. I love, have
you seen the commercials with the camel? Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike,
they're talking to Mike Tirico, who's the play-by-play guy on
NBC's Sunday Night Football. Guess what day it is? It
was an old insurance commercial. Was that Geico? Had to

(19:41):
have been Geico. It had to have been the Hump Day. Well,
they did that for the fact that Hump Day is
for the first time going to open up an NFL
season it's a rematch of the Super Bowl the Seattle
Seahawks are hosting the New England Patriots so if if
you're in fantasy football if you're in a league or

(20:02):
like me I counted it up I am in seven
leagues I have a serious problem ladies and gentlemen uh
If I'm suddenly off the air for a couple of days,
it's because I've checked myself into rehab for a serious
fantasy football addiction. But no, I asked Dave, are you
doing anything for the game tonight? Apparently he is getting

(20:24):
off the air right after six o'clock hits and he
is just doing nothing but driving his kids to and
from practice. I said, oh man, it's that time of life.
It is that time of life, buddy. I love it. No,
but Dave asks a very good question. Is it just
Milwaukee County that has its own lobbyists? Yes. As you
can imagine, it's only the bigger counties. I know Dane

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County has lobbyists, but typically you're not going to see
Iron County or Green County or some of the smaller counties.
They simply can't. Yeah, no, no. You're not going to
see what you said, Iowa County. No, they're not going to.
Sauk County does not have lobbyists. highly paid lobbyists. This
is a relatively rare thing that only the biggest counties

(21:11):
in Wisconsin can afford. But we actually broke this story
at the start of this hour that David Crowley instructed
the lobbyists that Milwaukee County does have to support every
radical pro-illegal immigrant anti-ICE bill that was on the docket
this session. This is not ancient history. This is not

(21:32):
peak woke where David Crowley can simply say, well, everybody
went a little nuts during the woke era of 2020, 2021. No,
this was this year and the year before. This is
the current legislative session. In fact, I'm sure if I
went back with some of those lobbying records, I could
find even crazier things that David Crowley has been in

(21:56):
support of. And more significantly and this is this is
you know it's obviously okay it's a big deal that
the county executive and now the democratic nominee for governor
he supports all of this crazy woke anti-ice pro-illegal immigrant
nonsense the fact that he is spending your taxpayer money

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and remember Because of shared revenue, it is all of
our taxpayer money, your tax dollars. Even if you live
in Sauk County or Iowa County, your tax dollars are
going to Milwaukee County through shared revenue. And remember, David
Crowley was begging alongside Milwaukee's Mayor Cavalier Johnson for more
of that sweet, sweet shared revenue cash. that he immediately blew, apparently,

(22:44):
on lobbying to spend more tax dollars on support for
illegal immigrants because they're running... How do you... Okay, I'm
sorry I keep coming back to this, folks. How do
you get $ 107... $ 107, $ 107. If he got $ 107, he's
getting like $ 107 per millisecond in sales tax revenue. $ 107
million dollars. on average, per year in new sales tax

(23:14):
revenue after David Crowley nearly doubled the sales tax in
Milwaukee County. $ 170 million per year, and he's still running
a nearly $ 170 million budget deficit. I don't even think–
you have to work at being that fiscally incompetent. So

(23:34):
Crowley is coming out in support of and lobbying in
support of and using your tax dollars to support all
of this. crazy pro-illegal immigration stuff. How about this story?
There was a deliberate attempt to bury over the Labor
Day weekend an illegal immigrant living in Beloit. I saw

(23:56):
the headlines over the weekend. A Beloit man has been
charged with illegally voting in Wisconsin's November 22 general election.
A Beloit man named Jesus Javier Gerardo Garcia. Yeah, that
is a longtime Beloit native man. He's been here forever. No,

(24:18):
he's 25 years old. was criminally charged September 2nd. He's
an illegal from Mexico. He's been charged with voting as
an alien. Prosecutors said he knew he was not a U.S.
citizen when he cast a ballot November 8th, 2022, in
an election that included races for the U.S. Senate and
House of Representatives. That's what makes this a federal crime.

(24:42):
If convicted, the Beloit native Jesus Javier Gerardo Garcia faces
up to a year in prison. a judge would impose
any sentence under federal law and sentencing guidelines U.S. Attorney's
Office said in a statement, protecting the integrity of federal
elections is a fundamental responsibility of this office. The charge

(25:03):
against this defendant reflects our commitment to enforcing the law
and ensuring that every vote cast complies fully with federal requirements.
No one is above these obligations. And my office will
continue to pursue cases where unlawful voting occurs. That went
from Chadwick M. Elgersma.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
U.S.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Attorney for the Western District of Wisconsin. Now, this was
part of a broader announcement this week. Five people in Pennsylvania,
New Jersey, and Wisconsin, all charged with illegal voting or
fraudulent registration in the 2022 or 2024 elections, which is
weird because I have it on very good authority that

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we don't need to crack down on this sort of
stuff because it never, ever, ever actually works. happens. You're
listening to the Dan O'Donnell Show. We'll be back in
just a moment on September 9th.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
How?

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Well, that is a great question, producer Dave. Dan O'Donnell
Show right back. Municipal clerks have begun mailing absentee ballots
out ahead of the November 3rd election. The statutory deadline
for clerks to send those ballots out is September 17th.
We literally do not have election day or even election

(26:26):
week or the election two-week period. We have more than
a month of voting. Now, as of this morning, according
to the Wisconsin Election Commission, 282,396 Wisconsin voters have requested
absentee ballots ahead of the November 3rd general elections. Of

(26:52):
those requests, 66,565 ballots have been sent to voters and
36 completed ballots have already been returned to clerks. How early?
are Democrat communities sending out their ballots? This is what
I want to know, because you know damn well it

(27:14):
is in Democratic communities that they are getting these out
as quickly as possible. The only thing that Democrat communities,
that Democrat government officials will do quickly and efficiently is
get those ballots in the hands of voters. Yeah, they
won't count them that fast, Dave. That's for damn sure.
For comparison's sake, In the 2024 general election, about 550,000

(27:35):
voters returned absentee ballots by mail. Another 950,000 voted early
in person at clerk's offices or designated early voting locations.
That is a total of 41,000 or excuse me, 41%
of voters, 41% of voters voted did not vote on

(28:05):
election day. They voted early in person or they voted
by mail. In-person absentee voting is scheduled to begin October 20th.
Hours vary by municipality. Who do you want to bet
has way more early voting hours? We fought tooth and nail.

(28:25):
against Democrat counties and Democrat municipalities like Milwaukee and Madison
to try to get uniform dates for in-person early voting
because it is so inherently unfair. If the biggest communities
and the biggest counties all have the most early voting
hours and all have the most staff members in who

(28:50):
are able to process early voting and send out these
ballots and do all of this, who do you think
is going to have a massive advantage? Rather obviously, it
is the Democrats. This, by the way, is why we
are once again doing the state's largest early vote drive
here on the Dan O'Donnell Show. We do it every

(29:12):
single election, not because I love early voting, but because
I hate it. Because I think it is such a
massive advantage for Democrats. They have two months. You have
got 36 people have already voted. How is this even possible?
I guarantee it. Do you think there is a single

(29:35):
Tom Tiffany vote in any one of those 36 ballots
that have already voted? I could not fathom there being
a single Tom Tiffany vote. Now, so we do the
state's largest early vote drive because it is my aim
to do away with in-person absentee balloting. mail-in balloting, save

(29:57):
for how we did early voting for much of this
country's history. If you had a valid excuse, if, for example,
you were going to be on vacation, this is something
that we run into each and every partisan primary because
it's in August. The August 11th primary saw much lower

(30:19):
turnout than you would expect, even though this was probably
the single most watched Democrat primary ever. of the entire
summer across the nation because it was going to be
the biggest test of DSA socialism with Frannie Hong going
against David Crowley. Turns out Democrats were successfully able to
rig their primary in favor of Crowley and against Francesca Hong.

(30:41):
I'll tell you what, if I was a DSA member,
I'd still be pretty ticked about that. And I wouldn't
want data center David Crowley to be my governor. But hey,
that's just me. Not a lot of people voted in
that primary comparatively speaking to how many are going to
vote in the general election how many typically will vote
in presidential primaries when they're contested by the time wisconsin's

(31:05):
primary rolls around simply because there are so many people
who are on vacation it's august it's the most popular
month by far for people to take vacations so what
the law said for a long time is if you
go to your clerk's office and say, hey, I am
not going to be here, all right, we will let
you vote early because you got an excuse. Well, what

(31:30):
happened was that Democrats realized that no excuse early voting,
if we have election month instead of election day, We
can have all of our paid organizers, all of these
groups that totally weren't funded with USAID money, but now
suddenly have severe financial crunches now that USAID has been defunded.

(31:54):
They will go out and they will find every single
person who could possibly be registered and signed up to vote.
And then there is the rather obvious question. Unseemly side
of things. It is way easier to cheat using absentee

(32:16):
ballots than anything else. And in fact, the Wisconsin Elections Commission,
as liberal and thoroughly useless as it is, actually did
say today that it believes the now former Green Bay
clerk Celestine Jeffries broke state law. when she sent out

(32:36):
multiple absentee ballots duplicate ballots to several voters twice in
the past couple of elections we are going to dive
into that story coming up in the five o'clock our
coming up in the four o'clock our in waukesha county
there is going to be a pretty big announcement may

(32:59):
here on the dan o'donnell show that i think will
suffice as but tease There's a big election coming up,
and we've got a major announcement tied to that, plus
the daily Trump date, as President Trump is now headed
to Dallas for the very first midterm convention. All of
that coming up. But coming up next, we'll name the

(33:19):
unhinged liberal of the day, right now. And there was
a whole lot to choose from, from this past weekend's
Socialism 2026 conference. But my favorite quote has got to
be Deshaun L. Ferguson saying GLP-1 fat loss or weight

(33:45):
loss drugs amount to, and I quote, fat genocide.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
The political deployment of GLP-1s is fascistic, not because individuals
take them, but because the conditions under which they become
necessary are shaped by a world fixated on genociding fat people.
This is a structural critique that asks what happens when
the conditions produced by capitalism, by public health, by the
state apparatus and by anti-black desire align around a single

(34:15):
bodily ideal that leaves little to no room for divergence
and punishes any body that does.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
So in case you're wondering. Yes, Deshaun L. Ferguson is overweight.
I didn't even need to see. I first heard this soundbite.
I didn't see what it looked like. I said, there
is no way this guy is skinny. He also, I think,
desperately wants to be on a GLP-1, like Ozempic, right?

(34:43):
Ozempic is a form of GLP-1. It's a miracle drug,
truly miracle drug. That was originally used to treat diabetes. Well, now,
as we find out, a lot of these drugs have
alternate uses. What was it? The erection medication, the little

(35:03):
blue pill, Viagra. Wasn't that originally a hair loss drug?
So rather than accept this for the modern medical miracle
that it is, and this is quite literally saving lives
because obesity is about the biggest. You want to talk
about an actual genocide? The actual genocide is of people
in this country and around the world who are incredibly obese.

(35:26):
They're getting on these drugs and they are losing 50, 60,
70 pounds very quickly. But apparently that's a genocide drug.
I got to hear this again.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
The political deployment of GOP ones is fascistic.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Fascist.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Not because individuals take them, but because the conditions under
which they become necessary are shaped by a world fixated
on genociding fat people.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Your fatness is what genocides fat people. Obesity is the
heart disease. Diabetes, the single worst thing other than smoking
cigarettes that you can do for your health is to
be overweight and live a sedentary lifestyle.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
This is a structural critique that asks what happens when
the conditions produced by capitalism, by public health, by the
state apparatus, and by anti-black desire, a line around a
single bodily ideal that leaves little to no room for
divergence and punishes any body that does.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
How do you even get anti-black in there? Folks, there
is something way deeper at play. I wish I had
more time to discuss this in greater depth. This is
the socialist mindset in a nutshell. They cannot be responsible
for any aspect, any choice, any part of their life.

(36:51):
It has got to be society at large. It has
got to be the capitalist whose fate is going to
determine the control of the House. I'm guessing he's going
to be speaking a little bit later, possibly after we finish.
get off the air. Producer Dave, could you check that out,
what time Derek Van Orden is scheduled to speak? In

(37:12):
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(37:57):
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(38:43):
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Do we have a time for Derek Van Orden? No,
the websites do suck. You know what? I did sort
of check this morning, and I'll be totally honest with you.

(39:05):
I have not been able to– no, I don't see a–
Dave says he doesn't see a schedule anyway. I haven't either.
The one gripe I have had about this– and this
is the Republican National Convention as well back in 2024–
The schedules were not exactly set in stone. You couldn't easily,

(39:26):
I mean, the main headline is we know President Trump
is going to speak at I believe, nine, eight central tonight.
He's going to go directly up against the season opener
of the NFL, although I suspect I suspect. Not a
lot of people know that the NFL season opener is tonight.
Do you know why? It's on a website. Well, I know,

(39:47):
I know, but how many people? Dave says he doesn't. Yeah,
not a lot of people. No, I get it. Everybody
is aware that the NFL season opens up this week.
Up until like last Monday, I thought that the NFL season,
like it always does, kicked off on a Thursday. Now,
I am told it's not necessarily because the NFL just

(40:11):
wants to control another night of football, which it totally is.
But it's because tomorrow night's game, what is that, the
Rams and 49ers? They're playing in Australia. So they're actually
going to be playing at like 11 a.m. on Friday
local time. But that game is going to be broadcast
at the normal time of 730, 735 p.m. tomorrow night.

(40:34):
The NFL's explanation was that they wanted another game not
to interfere with the Australia product.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
And they wanted enough time because it's, what, a 16-hour
flight for the Rams and 49ers to get back in
plenty of time for their next week's game. I think
it's because the NFL just totally wants to dominate Wednesday nights.
I'm telling you, folks, Packers play a Wednesday night game.
It's the Wednesday, the night before Thanksgiving this year. They've

(41:08):
got that game. I'm telling you, by next season, you
are going to see at least five or six Wednesday games.
You're going to see Wednesday be the night. Almost certainly,
they open up the season again, and then there's a
Thursday game. They take Friday and Saturday off so they
don't compete with or dominate high school and college football.

(41:29):
And then they have a ton of games on Sunday.
Then Sunday night football, which is typically the most watched
program of the entire week. And then Monday night football,
which unfortunately sort of feels like an also rap. Monday
night football, when I was growing up, that was the
big one. Now, because Sunday night football is on NBC,
it's on the network. And Monday Night Football is on ESPN. Yes,

(41:52):
I know they will simulcast it on ABC if it's
a local game and that sort of thing. But it
just it doesn't feel as big as it used to.
Sunday night. And I guess that's not really a surprise.
Sunday night is typically the biggest night of television watching
in as much as people still sit down and watch
shows on the night that they originally air.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
All right.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Time now for the Daily Trump Day. Did we ever
figure out what time Van Orden is speaking? He's scheduled
between 3 and 4 p.m. Central Time, so he probably
already spoke. Or they're running behind, which is entirely likely.
I don't know. We've got the Fox News feed on here,
and they're not going with... Well, I'll tell you what.

(42:34):
If we get a heads-up that Van Orden is speaking,
or I can't imagine he's going to speak for very long,
maybe we can just replay the speech, because this is
a big deal. This is a very big deal. Time
now for the Daily Trump Date, your look at what's
going on in Donald Trump's Washington, or in this case, Dallas,
because all eyes are on the Lone Star State. As

(42:57):
the midterm convention is now underway, President Trump at Joint
Base Andrews, before getting on Air Force One to head
down to Dallas, took questions from reporters. And one of
them from ABC asked, Mr. President, why do you think
so many Republicans are avoiding this event? Is it because

(43:18):
they know you suck? Well, OK, she didn't ask that
second part, but that was clearly the implication. And Trump
rightly called her out on it.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
Mr.

Speaker 6 (43:26):
President, several Republicans in competitive races are not coming to
the convention.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Do you understand why they're deciding.

Speaker 6 (43:32):
Not to come?

Speaker 7 (43:32):
Everybody that's everybody is coming to the convention. Everybody wants
to come. But we only want and the people that
are coming, by the way, we're going to be sold
out tonight. Just so you understand who you with.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
ABC News, sir. ABC Fake News. You are the worst
of all, in my opinion.

Speaker 7 (43:48):
The reason that some people are not coming is because
we don't have room for 500 politicians. We have room
for the ones that have a close race if they're
slightly behind or slightly ahead or tied. But we don't
have room for people that are 35 points up and
don't need to be there. We said stay.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Back and campaign.

Speaker 7 (44:08):
Every politician that we've wanted to be.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
There is there. So the media is already going into
overdrive with this narrative that nobody wants to go and
nobody wants to be seen with Trump. They already tried
it this week with Tom Tiffany. You had a reporter ask,
so how come you're not going to the midterm? He's
running for governor of Wisconsin. He what?

Speaker 5 (44:33):
What?

Speaker 1 (44:34):
I just it boggles my mind. The midterm convention is
all about the Congress. It is all about the House
of Representatives and the Senate. But, of course, Tiffany was
asked in an accusatory manner yesterday. So, why aren't you going?

Speaker 8 (44:51):
Do you plan to attend the Republican midterm convention in Texas?
I am busy this week. And starting right here in Milwaukee,
we're going to be covering the entire state, going Madison, Wausau,
Green Bay, and all over the state of Wisconsin. We've
got meetings there.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Going on everywhere.

Speaker 8 (45:07):
So unfortunately, I'll not be able to attend because my
mission here is to meet as many voters in Wisconsin
as possible. We've only got eight weeks before the election,
and I've got a whole lot of voters to be
able to meet until then, because the future of our state.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
Is at stake.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Yes, it is our state, not Texas. So President Trump
also answered questions and said a couple of very revealing
things on the tarmac today about the Iran war. He
predicted multiple times, in fact, that the war would end
as soon as the midterms are over. I think the
war is.

Speaker 7 (45:43):
Going to end immediately after the election. I think the
war will end immediately after the election. Because they can't
hold out any longer. They're desperate to try and affect
the election so that we can get a nice, weak
group of people in there and leave them alone and
let them have their nuclear weapon.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
All they want is a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 7 (46:06):
And if they had a nuclear weapon, the whole world
is in deep trouble.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Now, think about what it is the president just said.
Iran is trying to hold out until after the midterm
election and hold out as long as they possibly can.
Because they know that keeping the Strait of Hormuz closed
when it actually isn't, or at least keeping the narrative
open that the Strait of Hormuz is closed, helps Democrats.

(46:33):
Democrats getting elected in turn helps Iran because they would
vote against anything that President Trump would want to do
legislatively to put pressure on Iran. whether that's voting to
end any sort of military engagement that President Trump would
ramp back up or anything else. Iran strategically thinks that

(46:59):
Democrats are good for Iranian interests, and this is undoubtedly true. Now,
as a result of this, because Iran– now, what do
you think the single biggest thing that Iran can do
to try to affect the outcome of the elections? That's right.
Keep gas prices artificially high. Keep commercial ships terrified to

(47:22):
try to traverse the Strait of Hormuz. Keep oil prices
artificially high. This is why President Trump is also predicting
that gas prices are going to go down immediately after
the midterms, because Iran is going to do everything in
its power to try to get Democrats elected.

Speaker 7 (47:40):
Right after the election, because they'd like to have it
that way. But right after the election, oil prices are
going to be tumbling downward. They're going to be tumbling
down and we'll get them down, I think, for gasoline.
We'll get them below $ 2 a gallon.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
But not until after the midterm. I think it's going
to take a little bit longer than the midterm. Because, again,
Iran is trying its level best to hold out so
that the United States has no choice but to essentially
endure higher gas prices than the rest of the world.
Higher gas prices means more people ticked off at Trump.

(48:14):
And gas prices are really the only thing that Democrats
can kind of point to and say, well, the price
of gas is artificially high because of Trump. The price
of everything else is artificially high because of Democrats. There
is no actual way to argue against this. In fact,
I would love to hear any liberal try, try, To

(48:38):
make the case that President Trump is responsible for the
massive price in pretty much everything. You can't because the
data is clear. The price shock came in 2021 and 2022,
and it was a direct result. of $ 1. 2 trillion in
government spending, as well as the sudden importation of millions

(49:00):
and millions of people, creating a massive demand shock at
the same time that supply was still down because the
world was coming out of the COVID-19 pandemic, which was,
by the way, exacerbated by liberal governments keeping their economies
and keeping their citizens at home. for far longer than

(49:21):
they needed to be. Now, President Trump also answered some
questions on things not related to Iran. He had a
phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin as the two,
as well as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky tried to end
the nearly five-year-long war. Can you tell us about.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Your conversation with President Zelensky?

Speaker 1 (49:44):
We had a great conversation. He is wanting to make
a deal. And if Zelensky is wanting to make a deal,
that would be very nice. What is the holdup?

Speaker 7 (49:55):
The holdup is two people that hate each other.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
I think more than anything else, it's two people that
hate each other.

Speaker 7 (50:03):
I think that because I speak to people, that's all
I do is speak to people. My whole life, I
know about deals, and these are two people that.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Are tired of fighting. It could happen. We had a
good conversation.

Speaker 7 (50:18):
It could happen. Too many people are dying in that war.
Twenty five thousand last month.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
President Trump has made ending the Russia Ukraine war a
singular focus of his presidency. But even he has admitted
that is much, much more difficult than even he had anticipated, because,
as he just said, you have got two people who really,
truly hate each other. That is the Daily Trump Date
coming up in just three minutes. We are going to

(50:47):
talk to Adam Nealon, state representative from Waukesha County, who
is making a big announcement exclusively here on the day.
The special election is going to be held on December 15th.
With a primary November 17th, if needed, if there are
more than two people who declare for that race, well,

(51:10):
the candidate, whoever wins that election, is only going to
serve until April because Farrow's term was up on April
20th of 2027. Already announcing for that race is State
Senator Chris Kappinga. And joining me now to make a
very special announcement is Waukesha State Representative Adam Nealon. Adam,

(51:36):
welcome to the Dan O'Donnell Show. Great to have you on. Adam,
do we have a bad connection here?

Speaker 4 (51:45):
Are you on?

Speaker 6 (51:47):
Yeah, Dan, I'm here.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Are you with me?

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Yes, yes, we got you. We got you. So without
any further ado, your special announcement, sir.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Well, Dan, I wanted to start and I just want
to thank you for honoring Paul's legacy because I think
that's such an important part of all this. You know,
he was just a one of a kind personality and
like a true pillar of our community. And like, I
really like truly miss him. So thank you for mentioning
him because I mean, I want to honor his legacy

(52:16):
as part of this, but I appreciate this opportunity because
I love Waukesha County. It's my home. It's given me
so much. And I truly believe it's the best place
in the world and our best days are still ahead.
And I understand the challenges facing young families. And I'm
raising my family here. I feel a real responsibility. You

(52:39):
might even say a calling to step up and serve.
And that's why I'm announcing my run for Waukesha County executive.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Well, that's fantastic. So you're seeing this as a way
of upholding Paul's legacy and continuing service. What is it
about this role that makes you feel as though you're
uniquely qualified to serve in it?

Speaker 3 (53:03):
It's a great question. And I think that when you
look at the dynamics facing the county, I think we
need to elect like a strong conservative that will hold
the line on spending. and fight against the sales tax increase.
You know, I think that we need to have a
conservative that will do those things, but it should not
just end there. It's easy to say no, but I

(53:26):
believe I'm the candidate that will show up, that will
do the work, and build something better.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
There is already a conservative candidate who is running in
Chris Kappenga's What makes you a better option and a
stronger conservative for Waukesha County than him?

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Yeah, great question as well. I really like Chris. He's
a good Christian family man. I never have anything bad
to say about Chris. This isn't about who else is running.
I believe I'm the right person for the job. I
have a plan to not raise taxes, to make government
more efficient. keep Waukesha County winning and I'm going to

(54:10):
run a positive campaign. And I have nothing bad to
say about it anyway. I see this as a really
great opportunity and I'm sure a lot of great people
are going to step up because it's a great job
and the greatest place in the world.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
I see that as sort of your campaign slogan, keep
Waukesha winning. What does that mean to you? How do
you specifically plan to keep Waukesha winning?

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Yeah, it's a great question. It's an amazing place to live,
raise a family. I mean, we have the lowest sales
tax in the entire state. There are things we should
be proud of. We have over 1,000 manufacturing companies in
Waukesha County. People want to be here. But we're facing
a lot of challenges. And I think keeping Waukesha County winning,

(55:00):
keeping Waukesha winning... It's protecting what works, identifying what does not,
and having the courage to address some of the challenges
of the future. So I think keeping Waukesha County winning
is like looking at preserving what works, identifying what doesn't,
and having the courage to address the challenges of the future.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
What isn't working in Waukesha County right now, and how
do you plan to fix it?

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Dan, you really know how to go to the heart
of these questions. So I think the first thing.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
It's almost like I do this for a living, sir.
Sorry to interrupt, but I appreciate it. I've noticed every question,
you're like, ah, that's a really good question. I'm like,
you know what? Maybe I should be running for Walker
Shaw County Executive. I seem to have this... No, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding. I can't answer.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
These are all the things.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
I can't answer any of these questions. I can just
ask them. No, what isn't working? Because I've got a
pretty good idea of what people have told me hasn't
been working in Waukesha County, but I don't want to
put any words into your mouth. What do you plan
to address? What are some of the big things that
need fixing right away?

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Well, let's start with the fact we're sending too much
money to Madison, especially with the fact that we're running
a huge surplus. It's something I'm proud of as a legislator,
the fact that we've been able to cut taxes by
over $ 7 billion since I've been elected, but also run
a huge surplus. Okay, take the Register of Deeds office,
for example. We collect $ 11. 6 million in real estate fees,

(56:35):
but we send 80% or $ 9. 3 million back to the state.
So we're probably keeping just 20% despite doing all of
the work. Flip that, and that's a huge win for us.
If we need the right leaders that are willing to
work with people– In Madison, work with people on the
county board to make that happen.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Now, the one area of disagreement I had with my
very good friend, the Lake County Executive, Paul Farrell, was
on the issue of the sales tax. There was a
proposal to raise the county sales tax. I vehemently opposed it.
Paul had told me that there was a bit of
a revenue problem in Waukesha County. Is that accurate, or

(57:21):
is it more... of a spending problem. Do you think,
you said you want to fight against the sales tax,
so you recognize that there are members of the county
board who still do want to raise that sales tax.
What is your sort of overall thought on revenue in

(57:41):
Waukesha County and how does that issue get solved if
the sales tax does not go up?

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Well, let's start with the fact there's been a lot
of tools in government efficiency recently that we should be
able to implement to be able to get more for less.
I think people should be able to utilize tools in
the market to produce more. And I think that we
should start by looking at cutting spending or ways that

(58:11):
we can address our spending problem first. But I do
think there are things we need to invest in in
Waukesha County, like our Expo Center or the county fairgrounds
or things that we need to look at ways we
can do growth for growth economic policies. And I think
that when you look at that, Instead of having it

(58:34):
where we have to raise any taxes, because I do
not support that. I'm full stop. I will not be
raising taxes as county executive. But what we can look
at is flipping the fees around and having the state
who is doing all the work collect more so we're
able to make sure we're continuing to invest in our priorities.
Because there are things that we need to invest in.

(58:56):
But I think that we should be able to get
more for less because of all the tools that exist.
right now. And I also think that we don't need
to raise taxes to do it.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Adam Nealon, he is a state representative. and now a
newly announced candidate for Waukesha County Executive, the second candidate
who is running in the election in mid-December. If another
candidate gets in, there will be a primary November 17th.
No rest for the weary amongst the voters of Waukesha County.
What's your take on sort of this rather bizarre situation

(59:30):
Situation because you're going to be running for reelection in
the state legislature, right? I mean, you see your name
on the ballot right now. So you're going to be
up on November 3rd. Theoretically, you're up again two weeks later.
And then if you win the primary, you're up again
less than a month after that. And then you will
be up again if you win that election. presumably in April,

(59:54):
where it could be a rematch of you and, say,
Senator Kappenga. Are you ready to be nonstop campaigning and
nonstop voting for the next, like, eight months of your life?

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
It's a sacrifice, and there is no question about that.
I do feel some commitment to the people involved. and
especially my community. And I'm fully prepared to go through
with that. And let me start, and I'm glad you
brought this up because it's important that we address this

(01:00:29):
and we need to keep the majority in the state assembly,
the legislature. We need to win the governorship. Tom Tiffany
needs to, I am fully committed to my reelection to
the assembly right now to keep our majority strong. And
that's vital for Wisconsin's future. Only once we secure that

(01:00:50):
majority and elect Tom Tiffany, that is when I ask
for your vote for Waukesha County Executive. It is after
we show up, we get the job done to protect
our majority, we get the job done for the governor,
and after that, I ask for your vote for Waukesha
County Executive.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Adam Nealon running for Waukesha County Executive and state legislature and,
I guess, Waukesha County dog catcher, and he's just going
to be on every ballot for the next... No, it is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Your name's on the list.

Speaker 9 (01:01:22):
All right.

Speaker 6 (01:01:22):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
It is a you know, it does to get back
to why we are here. It does stink. I mean,
it does. It is awful that we've got to do
this under the circumstances of Paul's unfortunate passing, because we
all I mean, if there is ever somebody who is
just universally beloved by in conservative circles, even amongst Democrats.

(01:01:44):
I mean, after he passed, how many Democrats came out
and just said what a good, decent person Paul Farrow was?
But it is a very screwy situation in which we
have got just a whole ton of elections in Waukesha County.
The website adamnealon.com, that's Nealon, N-E-Y-L-O-N, A-D-A-M-N-E-Y-L-O-N, adamnealon.com. Adam, best

(01:02:12):
of luck to you in all of your various elections.
Really do thank you for making that announcement on today's show.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Thank you, Dan. I appreciate the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Well, the pleasure, sir, is all mine. Coming up next,
Tom Tiffany was getting a whole lot of heat for
backing out of a Wisconsin Broadcasters Association debate. Well, we now,
I think, Know why? Because the proposed moderator has a long, long,

(01:02:44):
long history of liberal activism. That story coming up. The
special election is going to be held on December 15th
with a primary November 17th if needed, if there are
more than two people who declare for that race, well,

(01:03:04):
the candidate, whoever wins that election, is only going to
serve until April because Farrow's term was up on April
20th of 2027. Already announcing for that race is State
Senator Chris Kappinga, and joining me now to make a
very special announcement, is Waukesha State Representative Adam Nealon. Adam,

(01:03:30):
welcome to the Dan O'Donnell Show. Great to have you on. Adam,
do we have a bad connection here?

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
Are you on?

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Yeah, Dan, I'm here. Are you with me?

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Yes, yes, we got you. We got you. So, without
any further ado, your special announcement, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Well, Dan, I wanted to start, and I just want
to thank you for honoring Love Legacy, because I think
that's such an important part of all this. You know,
he was just a one-of-a-kind personality and, like, a true
pillar of our community. And, like, I really, like, truly
miss him. So thank you for mentioning him because, I mean,
I want to honor his legacy as part of this.

(01:04:11):
I appreciate this opportunity because I love Waukesha County. It's
my home. It's given me so much. And I truly
believe it's the best place in the world and our
best days are still ahead. And I understand the challenges
facing young families. And I'm raising my family here. I
feel a real responsibility. You might even say a calling

(01:04:34):
to step up and serve. And that's why I'm announcing
my run for Waukesha County executive.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Well, that's fantastic. So you're seeing this as a way
of upholding Paul's legacy and continuing service. What is it
about this role that makes you feel as though you're
uniquely qualified to serve in it?

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
It's a great question. And I think that when you
look at the dynamics facing the county, I think we
need to elect like a strong conservative that will hold
the line on spending. and fight against the sales tax increase,
I think that we need to have a conservative that
will do those things. But it should not just end there.

(01:05:18):
It's easy to say no. But I believe I'm the
candidate that will show up, that will do the work,
and build something better.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
There is already a conservative candidate who is running in
Chris Kappenga. What makes you a better option and a
stronger conservative for Waukesha County than him?

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
Yeah, great question as well. I really like Chris. He's
a good Christian family man. I never have anything bad
to say about Chris. This isn't about who else is running.
I believe I'm the right person for the job. I
have a plan to not raise taxes, to make government
more efficient, keep Waukesha County winning, and I'm going to

(01:06:04):
run a positive campaign. And I have nothing bad to
say about it anyway. I see this as a really
great opportunity, and I'm sure a lot of great people
are going to step up because it's a great job
and the greatest place in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
I see that as sort of your campaign slogan, keep
Waukesha winning. What does that mean to you? How do
you specifically plan to keep Waukesha winning?

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Yeah, it's a great question. It's an amazing place to live,
raise a family. I mean, we have the lowest sales
tax in the entire state. There are things we should
be proud of. We have over a thousand manufacturing companies
in Waukesha County. People want to be here. Like it's, it's,
But we're facing a lot of challenges. And I think

(01:06:52):
keeping Waukesha County winning, keeping Waukesha winning, is protecting what works,
identifying what does not, and having the courage to address
some of the challenges of the future. So I think
keeping Waukesha County winning is like looking at preserving what works,
identifying what doesn't, and having the courage to address the

(01:07:13):
challenges of the future.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
What isn't working in Waukesha County right now, and how
do you plan to fix it?

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Ken, you really know how to go to the heart
of these questions. So I think the first thing, It's.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Almost like I do this for a living, sir. Sorry
to interrupt, but I appreciate it. I've noticed every question,
you're like, ah, that's a really good question. I'm like,
you know what? Maybe I should be running for Waukesha executive.
I seem to have this. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
I can't answer any of these questions. I can just
ask them. No, what isn't working? Because I've got a

(01:07:50):
pretty good idea of what people have told me. hasn't
been working in Waukesha County, but I don't want to
put any words into your mouth. What do you plan
to address? What are some of the big things that
need fixing right away?

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Well, let's start with the fact we're sending too much
money to Madison, especially with the fact that we're running
a huge surplus. It's something I'm proud of as a legislator,
the fact that we've been able to cut taxes by
over $ 7 billion since I've been elected, but also run
a huge surplus. Okay, take the Register of Deeds office,
for example. We collect $ 11. 6 million in real estate fees,

(01:08:29):
but we send 80% or $ 9. 3 million back to the state.
So I'm telling you, keeping just 20% despite doing all
of the work. Flip that, and that's a huge win
for us. We need the right leaders that are willing
to work with people and In Madison, work with people
on the county board to make that happen.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Now, the one area of disagreement I had with my
very good friend, the Lake County Executive, Paul Farrell, was
on the issue. of the sales tax. There was a
proposal to raise the county sales tax. I vehemently opposed it.
Paul had told me that there was a bit of
a revenue problem in Waukesha County. Is that accurate or

(01:09:15):
is it more of a spending problem? Do you think,
you said you want to fight against the sales tax,
so you recognize that there are members of the county
board who still do want to raise that sales tax.
What is your sort of overall thought on revenue in

(01:09:35):
Waukesha County, and how does that issue get solved if
the sales tax does not go up?

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Well, let's start with the fact there's been a lot
of tools in government efficiency recently that we should be
able to implement to be able to get more for less.
I think people should be able to utilize tools in
the market to produce more. And I think that we
should start by looking at cutting spending or ways that

(01:10:04):
we can address our spending problem first. But I do
think there are things we need to invest in in
Waukesha County, like our Expo Center or the county fairgrounds
or things that we need to look at ways we
can do growth for growth economic policies. And I think
that when you look at that, instead of having it

(01:10:27):
where we have to raise any taxes, because I do
not support that at full stop, I will not be
raising taxes as county executive. But what we can look
at is flipping the fees around and having the state
who is doing all the work collect more so we're
able to make sure we're continuing to invest in our priorities.
because there are things that we need to invest in.

(01:10:50):
But I think that we should be able to get
more for less because of all the tools that exist
right now. And I also think that we don't need
to raise taxes to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Adam Nealon, he is a state representative and now a
newly announced candidate for Waukesha County Executive, the second candidate
who is running in the election in mid-December. If another
candidate gets in, there will be a primary November 17th.
No rest for the weary amongst the voters of Waukesha County.
What's your take on sort of this rather bizarre situation?

(01:11:24):
Because you're going to be running for re-election in the
state legislature, right? I mean, I see your name on
the ballot right now. So you're going to be up
on November 3rd. Theoretically, you're up again two weeks later.
And then if you win the primary, you're up again
less than a month after that. And then you will
be up again if you win that election again presumably

(01:11:46):
in April, where it could be a rematch of you and, say,
Senator Kappenga. Are you ready to be nonstop campaigning and
nonstop voting for the next, like, eight months of your life?

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
It's a sacrifice, and there is no question about that.
I do feel some commitment to the people and especially
my community. And I'm fully prepared to go through with that.
And let me start, and I'm glad you brought this
up because it's important that we address this and we

(01:12:24):
need to keep the majority in the state assembly, the legislature.
We need to win the governorship. Tom Tiffany needs to,
I am fully committed to my reelection to the assembly
right now to keep our majority strong. And that's vital
for Wisconsin's future. Only once we secure that majority and

(01:12:45):
elect Tom Tiffany, that is when I ask for your
vote for Waukesha County Executive. It is after we show up,
we get the job done to protect our majority, we
get the job done for the governor, and after that,
I ask for your vote for Waukesha County Executive.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Adam Nealon running for Waukesha County Executive and state legislature and,
I guess, Waukesha County dog catcher, and he's just going
to be on every ballot for the next... No, it is.

Speaker 6 (01:13:13):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Your name's on the list.

Speaker 7 (01:13:15):
All right.

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
It is.

Speaker 7 (01:13:16):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
It is a you know, it does to get back
to why we are here. It does stink. I mean,
it does. It is awful that we've got to do
this under the circumstances of Paul's unfortunate passing, because we
all I mean, if there is ever. Somebody who is
just universally beloved in conservative circles, even amongst Democrats. I mean,

(01:13:38):
after he passed, how many Democrats came out and just said,
what a good, decent person? Paul Farrow was. But it
is a very screwy situation in which we have got
just a whole ton of elections in Waukesha County. The
website adamnealon.com, that's Nealon, N-E-Y-L-O-N, A-D-A-M-N-E-Y-L-O-N, adamnealon.com. Adam, best of

(01:14:06):
luck to you in all of your various elections. Really
do thank you for making that announcement on today's show.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Thank you, Dan. I appreciate the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Well, the pleasure, sir, is all mine. Coming up next,
Tom Tiffany was getting a whole lot of heat for
backing out of a Wisconsin Broadcasters Association debate. Well, we now,
I think, know why. Because the proposed moderator has a long, long,

(01:14:38):
long history of liberal activism. That story coming up next.
The state representative running for Waukesha County executive making that
announcement just a couple of minutes ago and doing his
best to butter up your humble host. I did notice
that before he pointed out. He was saying, wow, that's
a great question, Dan. Great question, Dan. Producer Dave, I

(01:15:01):
don't hear you saying that's a great point, Dan. This
is why you left my show. Technically, I did leave you.
I did leave you. And I said, you know what?
I could pull rank and make Dave Michaels come with
me 3 to 6 p.m. But then they insisted on

(01:15:23):
having you do like 15 other jobs. He's the morning
host on 95.7 Big FM. Don't call it an oldies station,
oldies station. Okay, I don't want to hear Christina Aguilera
and NSYNC and all the songs that I listened to
when I was a senior in high school are now

(01:15:43):
on the oldies station. But I graduated from high school
27 years ago. All right, let's play a fun little game.
We did that the last time you were producing. What
song right now is playing on 95.7 Big FM? If
it's something from the 90s, I'm going to have some
warm milk and just take a nap. Commercials are playing
right now. See, that's why you don't under any circumstances

(01:16:06):
change the dial because all the other radio stations, they
do nothing but play commercials. Seriously. Who are we to talk?
Dave says, as we just come out of a commercial
break that lasted like eight and a half minutes. Oh,
come on. You get great content like this. We've got
to pay the bills somehow. I don't even remember what

(01:16:29):
I was talking about. Of course, I didn't say anything yet.
You're interrupting me constantly. The constant interruptions that we had
Adam Nealon on. He announced that he's running for Waukesha
County executive at the three o'clock hour. Big story broken
about David Crowley actually using hundreds of thousands of dollars

(01:16:49):
in taxpayer money. to lobby the state legislature. I bet
you didn't know Milwaukee County has its own lobbyists on staff. Well,
it does. And we pay them hundreds of thousands of
dollars to lobby for such insane things as to set
aside hundreds of thousands more dollars for illegal immigrants to

(01:17:12):
access a legal aid fund for their immigration attorneys. In
other words, David Crowley, and this was not years ago,
this was literally a 2025 bill. He wants illegal immigrants
in the state of Wisconsin so badly that that he
wants to provide them with free legal aid so they

(01:17:36):
can access immigration attorneys. And when I say free, I
mean paid for by you, John Q. Taxpayer. He also
came out in favor of and sicked his lobbyists as
Milwaukee County Executive. on supporting a bill, multiple bills, that
were co-written by Francesca Hong that would not allow ICE

(01:17:58):
agents to cover their faces to protect them from doxing
attempts by David Crowley and Francesca Hong voters, yes, I
will dare to guess that every single person who would
dox an ICE agent would vote for either David Crowley
or Francesca Hong. You also had bills that your tax

(01:18:23):
dollars were lobbying in support of. Now, does everybody know
what lobbying means? I mean, I assume everybody does. Yes, Dan,
of course we do. That means David Crowley was paying
people who would go to legislators and try to convince
them to pass bills that would not allow any local

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agency in Wisconsin to cooperate with ICE, including sheriff's departments.
that would be no longer able to house illegal aliens
in their jail, have 287G agreements that would allow ICE
to set detainers on these people and then just come
pick them up. This is a radical move. radical county

(01:19:08):
executive who now wants your vote to be an even
more radical wisconsin governor and democrats by the way are
already licking their chops at all of the insane pro-illegal
immigration stuff they would be able to do if they
win the trifecta they win the senate they win the
assembly and david crowley wins the governor's mansion that's not

(01:19:30):
beyond the realm of possibility and that frankly would be
terrifying so Tom Tiffany yesterday was– do we have this?

Speaker 6 (01:19:43):
Oh, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
Okay, we do. Tom Tiffany was on the Dan O'Donnell
Show yesterday, and I asked him because it was sort
of a bubbling controversy that he was not going to
take part in the Wisconsin Broadcasters Association debate. The WBA–
Just to be clear, I think the WBA is a
fantastic organization. They do lobbying work on behalf of local broadcasters.

(01:20:08):
In fact, they do very, very good work. They are
a very good professional organization for all of us in
the broadcasting industry in Wisconsin. I've got no beef with
the WBA at all, except for the way they've handled
their debates. One of the moderators is a very... very,

(01:20:32):
very liberal activist hack. Her name is Jill Geisler. She
is a retired or, I don't know if she's actually,
she's a professor emeritus, I believe, down at Loyola, Chicago.
They had this woman moderate every single debate. We went

(01:20:53):
at Heartland Post and documented all of her examples of
DEI activism. She and fellow journalist Alfredo Carbajal organized programs for, quote,
diverse emerging leaders beginning in 2012. The program traces its

(01:21:15):
roots to the NLA, News Leaders Association's Emerging Leaders Institute's
Minority Leadership Institute, eventually became known as the Emerging Leaders
Institute for Diversity, Equity, and inclusion. Now, her advocacy for
DEI extends well beyond this. 2019, she led a webinar

(01:21:40):
on unconscious bias. She praised the New York Times controversial
1619 project, which sought to reframe American history as irredeemably racist,
rooted in slavery and systemic racism, arguing that America was
not founded by 250 years ago in 1776, but rather

(01:22:00):
when the first slave ship arrived on American shores in 1619.
2022 column she wrote about inclusive leadership and allyship. She
wrote that women, people of color and LBGTQ employees are
often burdened with additional work combating, quote, bias, ignorance, hate,

(01:22:22):
inequity and injustice. That invisible work Geisler is referring to
includes participating on diversity committees and being included on task
forces to build out diversity. The same practices that Geisler
herself has called essential work and has encouraged newsrooms to pursue.

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Geisler also said that managers should recognize and reward participation
in DEI activities by building it into evaluation and compensation structures.
Following the death of George Floyd, Geisler urged journalists covering
protests and riots to not just cover protest stories, but

(01:23:04):
to also, quote, start covering systemic racism while calling on
journalists to actively take up the mantle of the social
justice cause. Geisler also called for. A reexamination of the
role that majority white newsrooms have played in framing news
coverage over the years, including chastising reporters for covering overnight

(01:23:26):
crime rather than exploring the systemic complexities of the criminal
justice system. Geisler, by the way, is white.

Speaker 5 (01:23:37):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
From our staff over at the heartland post does that
sound like somebody who is going to be at all
fair to tom tiffany no so tiffany said you know
what look one debate is enough and i've looked at
the debate moderators that we are going to have matt
smith and jaron jordan and found them to actually be

(01:24:00):
fair here he is on my show yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
There was lots of uh negotiations going on behind the
scenes that WBA had offered us to do the debate
and then we talked to others, including WISN. Ultimately, both
camps agreed to the WISN debate and We agreed to
do one debate. One debate is sufficient to be able

(01:24:25):
to cover the issues that need to be covered. And
having been through more than a few debates over the years,
both in Congress and in the state legislature, one debate,
we're going to be able to cover the critical issues
before the people of the state of Wisconsin. And I
think that it's going to be.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
So ultimately, you just said, hey, let's do one debate.
Why choose the Channel 12 debate over WBA?

Speaker 4 (01:24:51):
But in watching how Matt Smith and Darren Jordan have
done their job in regards to the Democrat debate as
well as interviews they're doing, they're doing stuff like that,
I think they are very fair and they set up
what appears to make for a good debate.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
And they don't write extensively about America's systemic racism. Good
to see... a Republican finally standing up and saying, look,
if you reveal yourself to be an irredeemable liberal hack,
that's fine. Don't expect me to submit to you moderating

(01:25:36):
our debate. These sorts of things matter. And if Jill
Geisler is going to write extensively about systemic racism, what
sort of bias do you think she's going to have
in moderating that debate? You're listening to the There's always
some story that sort of transfixes the nation's attention. It's
a good distraction story, the one that I always come

(01:25:59):
back to. It wasn't a summer story, but rather a
Christmas break story. Now it's coming up on, what, 11
years since the Stephen Avery case, Making a Murderer. I
remember that one all too well because I was intimately
involved in that one. But it's just sort of that
last gasp of, OK, before our lives are just consumed

(01:26:22):
by politics. And now you have, of course, the midterm
convention getting underway in Dallas. President Trump is going to
speak tonight. But the biggest thing that I think people
should take away that we should all remember about the
Lindsay Clancy case, now that the jurors who apparently were
convinced from the very beginning of this trial before hearing

(01:26:45):
any evidence that that Lindsay Clancy was not guilty by
reason of temporary insanity, that there are very serious limits
to the jury system in America in 2026, especially when
you have got one political movement on the left actively
pushing jury nullification. The idea that for political reasons, jurors

(01:27:08):
should acquit defendants. And yes, there are liberal groups that
have been actually doing jury nullification clashes This is not
just a hypothetical. This is actually going on. And I
think what you saw in the Lindsay Clancy case was
not necessarily jury nullification because the case isn't technically over.

(01:27:29):
The first trial ended in a mistrial after jurors were
unable to come to a unanimous verdict. But you had
women and it is incredibly instructive. We played one of
the soundbites last night. It was just starting to come in.
It was on the nightly news. I believe it was
the Fox News affiliate in Boston. They got a bunch
of these jurors together. And they were, of course, the

(01:27:53):
three of the nine, four of the nine jurors who
were voting for not guilty by reason of insanity. There
was one holdout juror. He was a man who just
could not be swayed. He could not be convinced to
join the other 11 jurors because he said no. Beyond
any reasonable doubt, beyond any doubt, Lindsey Clancy was competent.

(01:28:16):
when she killed her three children. Before we dive into that,
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(01:28:37):
on iHeartRadio or where you listen to podcasts. One of
those jurors had just an all timer. of a quote
about this holdout juror who, according to her, just couldn't
get past the fact that Lindsay brutally murdered her three children.

Speaker 5 (01:28:56):
We would highlight it and, you know, so-and-so, this is
the definition of a reason to vote. But he had
the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously
killed her children.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
Yes, how dare he refuse to get off the fact
that Lindsay viciously murdered her children. How dare he We're
just going to look past that because we want to, what,
stand up for feminism, for women's rights? That same juror,

(01:29:29):
none of them have been identified for rather obvious reasons.
So they're just saying, OK, this is juror number six,
this is juror number eight. This same woman was asked,
was there anything right away when the prosecution made its
opening statements that kind of you hung on to? What
this woman said should send chills down the spine of

(01:29:53):
anybody who cares about the jury system, about the concept
of justice being blind and jurors only taking into account
evidence they heard at trial. She basically admitted, yeah, I
was biased against the prosecution from the very beginning.

Speaker 5 (01:30:08):
I'm wondering what your reaction was to the prosecution's opening statement.

Speaker 4 (01:30:13):
There were some things that they said in their statement.

Speaker 5 (01:30:15):
That I thought got a reaction out of you on
day one of testimony. I just found it to be harsh, Sue.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
Very, very harsh.

Speaker 5 (01:30:23):
I mean, again, and maybe we're talking with ourselves here,
but the fact that they had no character witnesses in
regard to Lindsay of being a bad mother. I mean,
right out of the gate, it's like, You're presenting all
these medical professionals, but nobody's presenting for the prosecution a

(01:30:47):
woman and a mother of three children. So I found
to be biased right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Out of the gate.

Speaker 5 (01:30:53):
I found them also to be kind of unprofessional and.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
Just without a heart.

Speaker 5 (01:31:00):
And for me that right away, I was like, okay,
where is this going right from statement one? There is
no compassion in this courtroom right now, which I guess
is expected of a prosecution. But I thought it was
very cold.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
Towards the woman who viciously murdered her three children. This
juror was concerned that the people prosecuting her for the
vicious strangulation murder of her three young defenseless children, she

(01:31:40):
was very concerned there was no compassion for the murderer.
I am floored by that. The prosecution, in making its
opening argument, was biased towards Lindsay being a cold-hearted murderer.

(01:32:07):
And they didn't show compassion in their opening argument in
which they argue that the evidence will show Lindsay Clancy
is a cold hearted murderer. This woman was upset that
there was no compassion and they were biased in trying
to show that Lindsay Clancy was a cold hearted murder.

(01:32:29):
Do I have that right? I, I, I am, Honestly,
I am rarely speechless at someone's. There was no chance
they were ever going to get conviction. These women clearly

(01:32:50):
had their minds made up before they heard a single
second of testimony. Now, you compare that these these three
jurors all sitting down with the reporter. They're all talking
about this. You contrast the lack of compassion and empathy
that they heard from the prosecution with how much compassion

(01:33:12):
for Lindsay, her defense attorney, Kevin Reddington, had.

Speaker 9 (01:33:16):
Just his whole demeanor.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Was funny. And there was one time, whatever he said,
I don't know, but I went.

Speaker 5 (01:33:28):
Because he was entertaining, which was good because we needed
some of that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
And arrogant at the same time.

Speaker 5 (01:33:37):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
Arrogant and entertaining.

Speaker 9 (01:33:40):
He would go back and forth between that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:43):
But compassionate.

Speaker 6 (01:33:44):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
With his arrogance.

Speaker 9 (01:33:47):
His compassion towards Lindsay was amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
I think we need to shut down the jury system
until we can figure out what the hell is going on.
I am almost dead serious about this. How can these
women be tasked with? I don't want to sound as arrogant,
but hopefully I will be as compassionate and as funny

(01:34:14):
and as lovable as Kevin Reddington. When I say the
average person, like the reasonable person standard is sort of
the backbone of Of American jurisprudence. What would a reasonable person,
what would an ordinary prudent person do in this situation?
I don't think that works when the ordinary prudent person

(01:34:37):
is apparently a freaking moron. You are taught in probably
any law school in America. that the only thing that
matters in a criminal or a civil case is the
facts of the case and the law that governs them.

(01:35:01):
Apparently how funny and charming and compassionate or cold the
attorney is matters way more. And look, every trial attorney
who has ever lived would tell you this, but it just,
it's jarring when the, apparently nothing was decided on the

(01:35:21):
actual evidence that was presented. This, to me, was the
most damning statement, though. One of the jurors said there
were multiple nurses who were in that jury room. Now,
juries are not supposed to draw on anything but the
evidence presented at trial and the relevant law. they are

(01:35:43):
not to, for example, the whole reason that we have
expert witnesses who are brought in to testify on behalf
of a prosecution or defense is so lay people can
understand what some highly technical things might actually mean. In
the case of the Clancy case, there were expert witnesses

(01:36:05):
to testify on the effects of medication and what mixing
some of the medications that Clancy was mixing would have
on her mental state. There were several nurses in that
jury room who this juror admits to a reporter actually
tapped into their own experience and said, no, no, no,

(01:36:26):
my experience with this trial, you are not supposed to
do that. That is grounds for a mistrial right there.

Speaker 6 (01:36:35):
He really did not take.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
She's talking about the one holdout juror who she is
scolding here, she's scolding him because he didn't listen to
the nurses, the multiple nurses in the jury room who
were telling him, no, no, no, ignore your own interpretation
of the evidence that you heard. I am the expert here.

(01:36:58):
You must listen to me. Do you have any idea
how bad?

Speaker 6 (01:37:03):
He really did not take anything that anybody said. The nurses,
he tried to ask a question about the medications, and
we went back to the.

Speaker 9 (01:37:17):
Report from South Shore Hospital. We had the toxicology report.
We could see exactly the amounts. The nurses in the
room spoke to that and talked to that. There were
nurses on the jury.

Speaker 5 (01:37:29):
Yes.

Speaker 9 (01:37:30):
They spoke to that, that specific thing. That was a
question that he had. And he just completely disregarded the
information that they gave him.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
Which he should have, because they're not supposed to give
information that is not presented at the trial that they
had just all watched.

Speaker 7 (01:37:54):
Did I?

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
I am I am continually amazed, especially when you have
multiple liberal organizations, including defund. 6-1 or defend 6-1-2. Excuse me.
This was in Minneapolis. This is probably the most famous
recent example of liberal groups actually teaching jury nullification. If

(01:38:19):
you find yourself on a jury who is trying, say,
an illegal immigrant for a crime they commit, they actually
see up telesessions entitled The People's Pardon or Jury Nullification.
This is marketed as protecting local heroes who were resisting

(01:38:44):
ICE enforcement. So if someone was arrested for, say, viciously
beating an ICE agent, defend 612 would teach people how
to potentially get on a jury. And typically part of
this trade, this was big in the post George Floyd

(01:39:06):
peak woke era. which of course the left is admitting
is not still going on, but it's totally still going on.
They're saying, well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Peak woke was crazy.
What did AOC say a couple of weeks ago? Woke
one was crazy. Well, now we're in woke two and
it's sort of gone underground, but it's the exact same

(01:39:26):
sort of insanity. You have got people who are literally
leading courses to get people onto juries and who will
then acquit based not on the evidence presented at trial,
but rather on politics. Freedom Trainers is a network that

(01:39:50):
is sponsored by Community Change, which of course is a
George Soros group. It has held webinars and trainings aimed
at committed people who attempt to get on to juries,
survive what's known as voir dire, or jury selection. They

(01:40:15):
are taught to avoid signaling an agenda or ever mentioning
jury nullification, say they'll listen to the evidence, but once
they're seated, the instruction is to vote not guilty for
any reason. The focus, according to the Washington Free Beacon,
includes federal prosecutions brought by the Trump Justice Department. So

(01:40:37):
if the Justice Department under Donald Trump brings a prosecution,
you are to get on a federal jury, and no
matter what the charges, drug dealing, murder, anything, you are
to get on as a radical, committed leftist, get on
the jury, and even if you think, even if you know,

(01:40:57):
even if you are convinced beyond any reasonable doubt or
any doubt whatsoever, of the guilt of the defendant, because
it is the Trump justice department that brought the case,
you are to vote not guilty. How can you possibly have,
how can you possibly have a rule of law that

(01:41:19):
coexists with people who do this in well-funded organizations like
freedom trainers, uh, free DC, uh, is another one. This
is a prison abolition group. They have hosted in-person juror
education or juror information project sessions across Washington, D.C. According

(01:41:43):
to the Washington Examiner, trainers have told attendees not to
wear activist clothing or display political symbols to present as
neutral during voir dire. The sessions... then frame nullification as
a way to counter prosecutions they view as politically motivated
or as part of a broader anti-incarceration agenda. Another group
known as Harriet's Wildest Dreams is also currently hosting workshops

(01:42:10):
in and around Washington, D.C. and the surrounding suburbs. That
would be Harriet Tubman's Wildest Dreams, because you see she
is Just as Harriet Tubman led slaves to freedom, Harriet's
wildest dreams and the jurors who infiltrate these juries are

(01:42:30):
freeing presumably black people from the over-incarceration of the prison
industrial complex. Again, even if they committed horrific crimes, there
are left-wingers who just because they hate the police, They
hate the Trump administration. They hate the justice system as well.

(01:42:54):
We are going to infiltrate the system, which is based
on the social contract. The social contract is that you
get a jury of your peers, just everyday ordinary people
who will look at the evidence, keep an open mind
and decide your guilt or innocence based solely on the
evidence presented and how your behavior comported with or violated

(01:43:16):
the law. And we can't have that. Because you have
got activists with a hardcore anti-America, anti-capitalist, anti-legal system, anti-everything
agenda that are literally instructing people to do apparently what
the Lindsay Clancy jurors did with no instruction whatsoever. But

(01:43:40):
they said, OK, well, here you've got this woman who
is clearly struggling with postpartum depression or psychosis. Doesn't really matter.
It's society's fault. She didn't get enough help from her husband.
She didn't get enough paid child care. She had a
like full time nanny. That didn't seem to matter. But

(01:44:02):
it was not her fault. She could not be held
criminally liable. Their minds were made up. And frankly. Folks,
my mind is kind of made up as well. So
long as there are forces within this society who are
hell-bent on corrupting every single aspect of the justice system,

(01:44:24):
the justice system, yes, I know it is a well-worn
constitutional precept that you are allowed a trial by jury
of your peers at which you are entitled to present
a defense before said jury. But my goodness, when you
have people who literally as a fundamental element of their

(01:44:50):
political party's agenda, as a stated portion of their political platform,
the erasure of the United States Constitution and all of
the rights that it affords its citizens in the Bill
of Rights and all of the limitations on government, And
the replacement of said constitution with a revolutionary, anti-American, anti-Western,

(01:45:16):
anti-human agenda. I just don't see how the jury system
is fundamentally viable when you have people hell-bent. on subverting
it to that degree. You're listening to The Dano. Violated
state law by sending out duplicate absentee ballots in two
consecutive elections in 2026 and misused her discretion in managing

(01:45:43):
her office. The Republican Party of Wisconsin filed a complaint
following the April spring election Jeffrey's office sent out two
different absentee ballots to 152 voters. The June reprint sent
a second ballot to an estimated 244 voters ahead of

(01:46:09):
the August 11th primary. And as the city admitted in
its own filings before the Wisconsin Elections Commission, possibly as
many as 390 voters had two ballots. A summary of
the issues in the staff materials presented for this morning's
meeting stated, quote, when a clerk maintains records of her

(01:46:33):
actions and procedures that are so poor that she is
unable to tell afterwards whether she had sent out 240
duplicate absentee ballots or 390 of them, she has misused
her discretion. This from heartlandpost.com. For each race, the city

(01:46:54):
said it recorded only one ballot per voter, but that
was not the standard the commission applied. Wisconsin law allows
an elector to receive one absentee ballot for each request.
It should never happen. that the state or rather that
the same elector receives two identical live ballots. Commission staff

(01:47:19):
stated in July when they had first had reason to
believe that Green Bay had broken several Wisconsin statutes. The
commission took no further action against Celestine Jeffries, who resigned
her position on August 7th. Republicans said in May This

(01:47:42):
would happen after the duplicate ballots were sent out in April.
Green Bay's lawyers told the Wisconsin Election Commission that the
statute does not impose liability for inadvertent duplication and that
since no second ballot had been counted, no violation of
Wisconsin election laws had taken place. Republicans responded in their

(01:48:06):
filing by saying a clerk who does not believe the
law prohibits the issuance of duplicate ballots cannot be trusted
to prevent it from happening again. Less than three months later,
it happened. again. I don't even know where to begin

(01:48:26):
with this woman. Jeffries, who was appointed in 2021 to
run elections in Wisconsin's third largest city, was found in
December of 2023 to have likely violated state law by
accepting absentee ballots returned by a third party for a
voter who was merely described as sick and not disabled.

(01:48:48):
In 2024, she acknowledged that for several elections, she had
not deactivated Election Day registrants, After confirmation, postcards came back undeliverable,
a step state law requires. Do you know what this
woman was doing before Green Bay's hack liberal Democrat Mayor

(01:49:11):
Eric Genrick appointed her as city clerk? She was not
managing charcoal grills, and that's way too soon, Dave. Dave
chimes in. She was managing the charcoal charcoal grill announced.
that it's five remaining locations are going to shut down forever.
I don't, if, if Celestine Jeffries was in charge of

(01:49:33):
charcoal grill management, they would have gone out of business
10 years ago and she would have been selling black
market steaks out of the back of the kitchen. There
is nothing that will convince me that these were merely
harmless errors. Do you know why? We're going to get
into that in just a second. The long, sordid history

(01:49:57):
of Celestine Jeffries as the chief of staff for Mayor
Eric Genrick in the thoroughly corrupt way the 2020 presidential
election was handled and why it was inevitable that putting
this woman in charge of subsequent elections was going to
result in more violations of law. Once again, Just as

(01:50:20):
I have asked that the FBI look into how Milwaukee
handled the 2026 Democratic primary, because we still do not
have good answers as to how the woman who is
apparently even less competent than Celestine Jeffries could not read, hey,
you're about to download the audit logs and not the

(01:50:42):
vote total. And she repeated that erroneous step five different times.
We still do not have. So you're saying that the
woman is so functionally illiterate that we need to put
pictures up so that she will know to download the
actual vote totals in November. You're saying that level of

(01:51:04):
incompetence is not enough to fire her. Her name is
Marisha Harris. She's one of the top deputies to the
Milwaukee Election Commission's. executive director. Celestine Jeffries, though, this does
not strike me as incompetence because in 2020, she and
Genrick were actually conspiring very illegally. with a third-party private

(01:51:29):
organization funded by so-called Zuckerbucks to usurp the proper election
administration from the then-Green Bay city clerk, who quit in
frustration and despair after Brown County's clerk said Green Bay
simply went rogue. Who was leading the charge on that?

(01:51:51):
None other than Celestine Jeffries. We will get into that
when the Dan... to multiple voters in multiple elections, in
back-to-back elections. We had the spring election. She either mails
out 250 or 390 duplicate ballots. She has no idea
how many ballots are out there. So there are hundreds

(01:52:11):
of ballots in the wild that are just totally unaccounted for.
This is the now former city clerk of Green Bay,
Wisconsin Elections Commission, voted unanimously today that Jeffries violated the law.
She's been violating the law for literally her entire tenure

(01:52:33):
and even before as city clerk. Because before she was
city clerk, she was the chief of staff to Green
Bay's Democrat Mayor Eric Genrick. In 2020, the city clerk
was Chris Treske. Treske was supposed to run the election.

(01:52:55):
The only problem was the so-called Wisconsin Five, the five
biggest cities in Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Racine, Kenosha, Madison, and Green Bay,
all entered into a contract with a group of organizations
that were funded by the so-called Zuckerbucks. Facebook founder Mark
Zuckerberg funded organizations that tried to maximize voting at home.

(01:53:21):
In fact, the National Vote at Home Institute said, was
one of the big organizations that was leading this charge.
And Zuckerberg was entering into contracts with local municipalities, all
of them big Democrat turnout hubs, places where there were
massive amounts of Democrat votes. And the idea was to

(01:53:44):
get as many people voting at home or as many
people voting by mail, as many people in the Democrat
vote hubs as possible to vote. You see where the
scam is here. The idea is, well, We just want
to increase voter participation. That's a good thing, right? Well,
when all your efforts are increasing voter participation in Democrat areas,

(01:54:06):
it's pretty obvious you're trying to illegally influence Democrat votes
by essentially taking over voting operations, taking over election management
in these cities. In Green Bay, they actually did. The
National Vote at Home Institute's Michael Spitzer Rubenstein, who had

(01:54:29):
no tie to Wisconsin, he's from New York, he moved
back to New York as soon as the 2020 election
was over. He basically took over for Treske in direct
violation of Wisconsin Statute 7.15, which requires that the municipal
clerk is in charge of running and supervising the elections.

(01:54:52):
There was a well-documented paper trail, Treske going to the
Brown County clerk, Sandy Juneau, and saying, look, Green Bay
has totally gone rogue here. What am I supposed to do?
About two weeks before the 2020 election, she resigned. She
threw up her hands and said, I'm being sidelined. I can't.

(01:55:15):
The Center for Tech and Civic Life was also one
of the organizations that gave the Zuckerbucks grants to the
tune of $ 1. 6 million. Spitzer Rubinstein of the partner organization,
National Vote at Home Institute, actually worked on the planning,

(01:55:37):
the layout of early voting, ballot handling discussions. He ran
central count operations. Only appointed election officials may conduct an election.
There were tons of issues at central count. Ballot curing,
observer access, poll workers viewing marked ballots. This all amounted

(01:55:59):
to almost certain misconduct in public office by both Celestine
Jeffries and Eric Genrich. Brown County Clerk Sandy Juneau later
testified about Green Bay going rogue. Green Bay's city attorney,
Vanessa Chavez, in a 19-page report in April of 2021,

(01:56:24):
concluded there were no issues affecting election integrity, but she
actually inadvertently admitted to exactly what it was that I
was getting to the bottom of, what I was alleging.
back in 2020 with serious misconduct in public office by
virtue of private organizations illegally taking control of voting. Just imagine,

(01:56:50):
just imagine if the National Vote with Dan Institute took
over voting in 2020. New Berlin, Wisconsin, one of the
most conservative communities in one of the most conservative counties
in the state, Waukesha County, the National Vote With Dan

(01:57:13):
Institute just takes over all voting. We are managing all
of the election. Would any liberal ever trust that? Well, no, no.
National Vote With Dan, they make voting much easier. Would
New Berlin's embattled mayor Even if he did, national vote

(01:57:35):
with a Muslim institute. No, because it's illegal for good reason,
because you don't know the biases, or in this case,
we knew exactly what the biases were. I was at
the time these grants were submitted saying, screaming from the
high hilltops, this is illegal. You cannot partner with private

(01:57:58):
organizations to handle voting. This has to be done by
the people who are appointed to handle the voting. Celestine
Jeffries was the one. running point. For the city of
Green Bay. Knowingly. Willfully. Violating at least five state statutes.

(01:58:19):
And now. The Wisconsin Elections Commission. Admits that she violated.
Even more statutes. By sending out duplicate ballots. That she
now cannot vote. keep track of. She is now saying, yeah,
it might have been 240, might have been 390.

Speaker 4 (01:58:35):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
Who can tell? How are we possibly supposed to trust
the outcome of an election when the people who are
in charge have no idea even how many ballots they
sent out? You're listening. It is Wednesday night football. No
real surprise here. Predictions for the upcoming season. I believe

(01:59:00):
that the Packers are going to be better than people think.
The defense was a completely different unit after the ACL
tear suffered by Micah Parsons. Packers didn't win a game
after Parsons went down, and that was pretty much the
story of last season. They were beating, and beating pretty good,

(01:59:20):
the team that was number one in the AFC last year,
a team that I expect to be very, very good
as well this year, the Denver Broncos. Parsons gets hurt.
Packers lose that game. They do not win another game
the rest of the season, including that heartbreaking playoff loss
to the Chicago Bears. I think the offense is going
to be a lot better. I really do believe that.

(01:59:42):
I was never really a big fan of Dontavion Wicks.
Romeo Dobbs is talented, but I believe the Packers have
better options behind Christian Watson, who can't stay healthy but
still got that big, big contract in the offseason. The
Packers clearly believe in him. If Tucker Kraft is back healthy,
I think the offensive line is going to be a

(02:00:02):
lot better. And Matthew Golden is a star in the making.
Jaden Reed is a great number two wide receiver, but
I think he works best in the slot in three
receiver sets. If you're going to run two wide receivers
and maybe have Tucker Kraft going out as well as
that third option, Matthew Golden showed in that playoff game

(02:00:23):
that he is your guy. Now, of course, All of
the questions surround the running game. Josh Jacobs is very likely, folks,
just not going to play, I think, at all this season.
He's on the commissioner's exempt list. Yes, I know he
moved up his court hearing. He's trying to get this

(02:00:45):
case done as quickly as possible so he can serve
his NFL suspension. It would not shock me if the
Packers cut him. It just would not, depending on how
Caleb Johnson and Marshawn Lloyd play in his absence. The
Packers may just decide that Jacobs isn't worth the trouble
and cut bait with him. Yes, I know there are
some legal ramifications there. Beyond the Packers, NFC North looks

(02:01:09):
to be dramatically improved. I hate to say it, but
I think Minnesota is going to be a lot better
with Kyler Murray as their quarterback. The Chicago Bears, the
lofty expectations for how good that offense is going to be.
And then the Detroit Lions are who seem to have
missed their championship window, but also have a very, very

(02:01:30):
good high-powered offense and at least a stout enough defense.
NFC North might be one of the better divisions in football.
In terms of the NFL writ large, boy, oh boy,
when you are as good a defense as the Los
Angeles Rams are, as good an offense, and then you

(02:01:51):
add the reigning NFL defensive player of the year and
convince one of the best defenders in the NFL to
come out of retirement in Aaron Donald to pair with
Miles Garrett, I have a difficult time seeing the Los
Angeles Rams not representing the NFC in the Super Bowl.
But that's why they play the games, ladies and gentlemen.

(02:02:13):
And if there's one thing we know about the NFL,
it's full of surprises. Season kicks off tonight. I know
I'm going to be watching because, frankly, what else is
there to do on a Wednesday night? Right, Packers kick
off this season, 325, Sunday afternoon. Have a wonderful evening, Wisconsin.
We are back, 306, tomorrow, Thursday afternoon. We do it

(02:02:35):
all again here on the Dan O'Donnell Show.

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