Dissecting the Psychology behind socialism's appeal

Dan deep-dives into the psychology behind socialism and its ominous appeal, invoking Nietzsche while exploring benign envy vs. the socialists' awful malignant envy, and more.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Here we go the start of another busy broadcast day
on the Dan O'Donnells show. Welcome to It Today is
something of a special edition of the program as we
dive into the roots of the psychology that makes socialism
so seductive to so many people across the Western world,

(00:23):
and why the Western world has been importing people to
try to expand the socialist influence. How mass migration is
an integral part of advancing socialism and the global left,
and taking the ideas that are so attractive and seductive
in the third world and making them first world ideologies

(00:47):
by essentially importing the third world to vote for them
and fundamentally change cultures across Europe and here in the
United States. It is deep, I know, but this is
what we do on the Dan o'donald Show. And we
say we do talk radio different, this is exactly what
we mean now. Of course, news of the day as well,

(01:08):
and all of the news of the day kind of
ties into this same central thing. As you had the
race to stop socialism from gaining a foothold here in
the ultimate swing state of Wisconsin. Major development not unexpected.
It was reported yesterday that when David Crowley, the Milwaukee
County executive dropped out. He was going to endorse Sarah

(01:30):
Rodriguez in an attempt to sort of galvanize all of
the support of the normy Democrats behind her in order
to stop the Francesca Hong express. The fear is that
if it's not Francesca Hong, who has all of the momentum,
all of the buzz in this race, it'll be another socialist,
Mandela Barnes, and the only hope for the establishment Democrats

(01:55):
is Sarah Rodriguez. But that requires every other candidate to
drop out to make this a three way race and
ensure that it is the normies against the socialists, and
the socialist vote is split between both Barnes and Haunts.
So that's going on. Of course, you had one of
the more prominent socialists in America, main Senate candidate Graham Platner,

(02:18):
just after we went off the air yesterday, drop out
of the race. No surprise there, of course, as the
week began with him facing very very serious and very
very credible sexual assault allegations. President Trump yesterday really nailed
it on the rise of communism, the spread of communists. Hey,

(02:39):
but we're listening in the five o'clock hour. President Trump,
after wrapping up the trip to Turkey for the twenty
twenty six NATO Summit, gave about a two and a
half minute missive on the rise of communism, how easy
it is for people to fall for it, and why
it is that it is so seductive, and why it

(03:02):
is that it's such an attractive ideology to so many,
for lack of a better term, losers like Graham platt
Graham Platner is by any definition a loser. He is
an accused rapist. He had a Nazi tattoo on his chest.
He posted the most vile stuff imaginable on Reddit in

(03:24):
twenty thirteen and saying, well, it was just you know,
I was showing poor discretion in my youth. He was
thirty five years old, for goodness sakes. Why was someone
like him so attracted to such a toxic ideology. Well,
it's because he is a toxic person himself, and because

(03:46):
this is all based in the basic psychological principles espoused
by none other than Friedrich Nietzsche. We will get into
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every day the Dan o'donald Show podcast on iHeartRadio or
wherever you listen to podcasts. At his press conference following
the conclusion of the final meetings at the NATO summit
in Turkey yesterday, President Trump talked about the rise of
socialism in America and how socialist governments and socialist coalitions

(04:50):
have really made leaps and bound gains over the past
decade plus in Europe, but especially in America. He said,
the fundamental re that socialism is so attractive is because
it's easy to sell.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Look, I want to get the word out because what's
forming is communism in the country. Communism's easy to sell.
I would be the greatest communist in history. I'd be
right up there with lenin, I'd be as good as anyway.
You've got free rent for the rest of your life.
What they don't say is that you'll be living in
squalor in twelve months. You've got the freehouse. Would anybody

(05:29):
like to have a free house. We'll take it away
from somebody, We'll give it to you. You'll have murders
all over the place. Communism is a disaster. It's been
proven to be for thousands of years under different names,
but the same thing.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Really tough to argue with President Trump there that if
he wasn't the ultimate symbol of capitalism, if he wasn't
essentially capitalism personified, he would be really good at selling socialism.
In truth, anybody would be good at selling socialism because
socialism is easy to sell because it plays to the
basist instincts that we have as human beings. We have envy,

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we have jealousy, we have resentment of those we see
as being more successful than us. But there are essentially
two forms of envy, malignant envy and benign envy. Benign
envy is a good kind of envy. Everybody gets jealous
of somebody who has a nicer car, or somebody has

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a bigger house, somebody who has a more handsome husband
or prettier wife, somebody who makes more money. Everybody feels insecure,
and everybody feels like somehow they don't measure up. And
when you get a first hand look at somebody else's success,
it is very easy to measure yourself up against that

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other person and to feel as though you don't quite
measure up. There is an entirely new category of how
we sort of get this envy magnified and in our
faces every single day in the social media era. It's
called the Facebook effect, and it's this idea that everybody,

(07:12):
I don't know if anybody is still posting on Facebook regularly,
where they're posting about all of their exploits, the extravagant vacations,
and every Sunday, my wife and I have been laughing
about this for the past several weeks now. Every Sunday
we get our Facebook feeds flooded with pictures of baseball tournaments,

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and it seems like we joke that every kid we
know won his baseball tournament or softball tournament this past weekend,
with all of the pictures that are posted by the
proud parents, and that's nothing against the proud parents. That's
nothing against it. You're proud of your kids. Everybody's proud
of their kids. My younger son had a great, great

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soccer game last night. He played very, very well. I
was proud of him. Now, am I going to go
on Facebook and post about that? No, he'd be mortified.
He's fifteen years old after all. But if other people
see you posting all about how good your kids are,
how great athletes they are, you take a look at

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your kid and this is terrible, but it's natural, and
you feel like your kid doesn't quite measure up because
they're not a baseball star. They're clumsy and uncoordinated and
only want to play Fortnite all day and night. You think, hey,
maybe I did something wrong as a parent because Bob's
kid is so much better. What we do is we

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take that and we feel like we don't measure up well.
The Facebook effect says, look, that's just the best parts
of somebody's life. You're not going to show. You're not
going to post on Facebook that on the way home
from the baseball tournament, you had a flat tire and
you know your son was mouthing off and you and
your wife got in a big and you came home

(09:02):
to find a past due bill that you can't afford
to pay. Nobody is going to post that. They're just
going to post the highlights. That's the Facebook effect. Now
that can trigger two types of envy. Benign envy is
the way we should as human beings, process how we
feel when we don't quite think that we measure up
to other people, when we don't feel successful. It motivates us.

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We say, hey, you know what, I really don't feel
like I'm making enough money. I see Bob he got
the big promotion. What we do is we work harder,
We rededicate ourselves to our work. We set a goal
based on wanting to be like Bob, and we try
to get a promotion of our own. If we're, you know,

(09:46):
unsatisfied with our relationship, maybe we've got to counsel. The
point is that benign envy motivates us to try to
get better. The other kind is known as malignant envy.
Malignant envy turns our feelings of insecurity about ourselves outward, and,

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instead of wanting to draw from that motivating factor of
not feeling like we fit in, feeling like we're falling behind,
instead of turning it in on ourselves and saying, you
know what, you know what. The reason I'm not making
enough money is because I took fourteen six days in
the last month and a half, mostly because I was

(10:33):
too hungover. I'm going to stop drinking and I am
going to do better at work. Instead of saying, hey,
maybe there is something that I can do, maybe there
is something about me that I can change, we turn
that feeling of insecurity outward and instead of wanting to
raise ourselves up, you guessed it, we want to make

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the more successful come down to our level. This is
a very fundamental concept that was popularized by Friedrich Nietzsche.
It is a French word that literally just kind of
means resentment. Resentment, I believe is the correct pronunciation or

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resentiment r e ss e n T I m e
n T. Nietzsche was the one who popularized this, and
what it is is this deep, reactive, reactionary resentment, this

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hostility that's felt by people who perceive themselves as being weak,
that perceive themselves as being inferior, that perceive themselves as
being lesser than. Who they blame for these feelings are
the people who they feel lesser than stronger individuals, stronger groups.

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Now this is not just normal resentment, This is not
just even the concept of malignant envy. This goes beyond that.
Unlike simple resentment, this involves a morality component. So the

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weak person, the person feeling this has at its core
the very sort of dichotomy that the modern day left,
the modern day socialist movement, has imbued into our politics.
It is known as the slave versus master morality, and

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the language is intentional. When Nietzsche says slave, he means slave.
When Nietzsche says master, he means master. This is a
direct tie to the sort of racial grievance, eternal self
flagellating over the original sin of American slavery, that the
modern day left draws upon. This is straight out of Nietzsche.

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In the Genealogy of Morality, Nietzsche wrote that slave morality
is a value system that's created by the people who
are weak and resentful. They are slaves. They are slaves
to their own weakness, they are slaves to their own
self defeat. And instead of trying to raise themselves up,

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instead of trying to because you're not actually a slave,
right you can you are powerful. You are able to
improve your station, but you don't feel like that. You
are sort of a slave on a self imposed plantation
of your own mind. So this morality responds to the

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strength of the masters, the people who have control of society,
the people who have control of the means of production.
That's classic marks that casts morality as forever looking at
the slave as being virtuous, that they are good because

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the equalities that they possess are humility, equality, group strength,
the strength in numbers. Does this sound familiar collectivism? It
is modern day left wing dei thinking that there is
always an underclass, that there are always people who, by

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virtue of being not in the preferred socioeconomic class, not
in the preferred racial class, not the people who are
at the bottom of society's food chain. They are virtuous
regardless of their individual characteristics, because they are always going
to say, well, we're good because we practice humility, we

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are concerned about equality. The masters are always going to
be bad because strength, nobility, power, hard work are always
perceived as evil. This dichotomy arises from the Nietzschean concept

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of resent resentiment. The powerless can't compete, they can't dominate,
the powerful directly, So they invent for themselves this new
moral framework that glorifies their weaknesses, their meek, they're timid,

(15:40):
they don't want to take risks. That is a virtue,
as opposed to an entrepreneur who goes out there, who
takes risks, who starts a business. This is why Elon
Musk capitalists. That is inherently evil. Why what this allows
is for you're a sort of psychologic revenge. Right, we

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always have as human beings, as thinking creatures, we always
have a need to be the hero of our own stories. Right.
We always want to be seen, We always want to
see ourselves as virtuous, as being correct. It's even more
important to us than being successful, than having wealth and

(16:27):
money and prestige, fame, whatever in our own eyes. Because
what happens when you're in this concept of a santy mam,
when you are in malignant envy, when you have that
as your guiding principle, you don't see collecting wealth as good.
You see it as evil. You don't see self determination
as good, you see it as fundamentally evil. You see

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your traits as good. Well, I am humble, Well it
is good that I came from. Now, Look a lot
of people are very proud of the fact that they
came from humble beginnings. I came from It's been mocked forever.
In politics. You always have to say just how humble

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your beginnings were, how you rose all of this, and
that's very good. Benign envy says, I rose from humble
beginnings now because of my own hard work, because of
my own talent and brains and dedication. Look where I
am now. Malignant envy says, I was raised poor and
I am still poor. Or I was one of the

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lucky ones who was able to escape the civilizational trap,
and now I am here because I understand that you
were in the trap, but you are powerless to help yourself.
These are the leaders. These are the people who take
advantage in the socialist movement. Now there is also in

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the slave master dichotomy, the master mentality. The slave is
the person who gives into this feeling of resentiment, resentment,
re sentiment, malignant envy, someone who has benign envy, somebody
who has the master mentality or the master morality. Because remember,

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this isn't just a mindset. Nietzsche says, this is the
fundamental guiding principle on which you base your life. He
says that the master mentality includes the life affirming teachings
that are associated with you guessed it, Christianity. These are

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the values that are dominant in Western culture. The master
morality isn't about now. Of course, here liberals are gonna say,
see say we know Dan O'Donnell wants you to be
like slave masters. This is the people with like a
seven IQ who have never picked up a book. No,

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the master morality says that independence is inherently good, Virtuous
living is inherently good, Improving your station in life is
inherently good. That the things that we value in Western
civilization are the things that actually will be leading us

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to a healthier worldview, a healthier outcome for society. So
the things that we value in Western culture are nobility, egality, health, creativity,
the things that are virtuous. But we also don't assign

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specific things to mean bad, except sort of the idea
of people who don't quite pull their weight right. Nietzsche
says that master morality is very active and very life affirming.

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The weak are not evil per se. They're pitiable. They're
people who you say, you know what, I really want
to help them. Or you say, eh, you know what,
you kind of get what you deserve. That's a moral
judgment of some sort. But it doesn't say these people

(20:38):
are evil because they're kind of lazy. These people are
evil because well, they're not particularly bright. They're just not
like us. As Kendrick Lamar famously said, they not like us.
The slave morality, though, says the people who are not
like us are evil. That is where we get into

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the toxicity, the true toxicity that is the socialist mindset.
This is where you attract truly the dregs of society,
like Graham Platner, and I feel very safe in saying
that you also attract, I think, people who are fundamentally

(21:24):
good people. I don't want to make a morality or
that sort of judgment about Frannie Horng, but I think
it's pretty safe to say that she probably has not
raped multiple people and probably does not have a Nazi
tattoo somewhere on her body. I'm just gonna take a
wild guess about that. It also attracts people who think

(21:45):
they're doing the right thing and then get into it
and realize how much they do resent and do hate.
Because what happens is this gets infused with the racial
politics of the modern left. We are going to get
into that, going to get into why toxic people like
Platner are so tied to this, Why this is so

(22:07):
seductive to them. Why all of a sudden we are
seeing the rise of murder culture on the left, the
scumbag left. Right now, Tyler Robinson is in a courtroom
for that preliminary hearing for assassinating Charlie Kirk. He subscribed
to this theory as well. Why is it so seductive?
We get into that next right here on the Dan
O'Donnell Show. Folks, when I say conservative thought, not just talk,

(22:34):
I mean it. Sometimes you get deep into philosophical thought.
As we are right now is we're trying to explain
exactly why socialism is on the rise, why it's such
a seductive ideology, and how this fits into pretty much
everything that is going on in the world around us,

(22:54):
including mass migration. Why Democrats have an open borders policy.
Why is it that they just allowed ten million people
into this country. It had a little more to do
than changing the voter base in this country. It has
everything to do with changing the culture of this country.

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So why socialism is so seductive is because it plays
to our basest instincts. And Friedrich Nietzsche, the great philosopher, said,
there is a psychological concept which he called basically it
is the French pronunciation of resentment r E S s

(23:41):
e n T I M E n t resentiment as
a an uncultured American would call it. And basically what
he says is, not only do we have all of
us experience envy, there is benign envy where you see
someone who has as something you want, you're jealous of them,

(24:03):
and you look inward you say, how can I change
myself to get what I want? How can I get
what he has? Malignant envy is when you turn that
envy outward and instead of saying what can I do,
you say what can I do to take that guy
down so he is like me? That is socialism in

(24:26):
a nutshell. It is unfair. It is fundamentally unfair that
he has something that I want, that I deserve. It
is malignant envy. Well, Nietzsche really took that concept to
the level where it really does explain socialism. It really
does explain why this ideology is so intoxicating and why

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it appeals to for lack of a better word, society's losers,
the people who do not get ahead in society. So
what ressultiment is is that it is not just resentment,
it is not just envy. It goes farther even than
malignant envy. And what it does is it uses a

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master morality and slave morality to explain how people actually
assign traits associated with success in society or failure in
society as being good or evil. The slave morality, and
this is all from Nietzsche's on the genealogy of morality,

(25:38):
is that value system that's essentially created by the weak
and resentful slaves in society in reaction to these strong masters.
And yet Nietzsche was born in the mid eighteen forties,
he would have seen this as a very recent concept
that slavery. But really, what you're a slave to is

(25:58):
your own failure, your own envy, your own giving into
the darker side of your psyche. So it creates this
dichotomy where every characteristic that makes you not as successful
as you would like to maybe you're too weak, maybe
you're too timid, maybe you don't take risks, maybe you're

(26:22):
not hard working enough. It casts those characteristics as morally good,
and it casts the characteristics of the people who are
successful as morally bad. I e. If you have a
lot of money, you must be greedy, you must have
stolen it from someone else. If you are hard working
and driven, that must mean you are a sociopath who's

(26:44):
willing to victimize anyone and everyone on your way to
the top. That's not true, but it is a way
of sort of explaining to yourself why someone else is
farther along than you are, why someone has more than
you us. It's very tough. Now. The master morality, though,
is totally different. So this would sort of be like

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the American idea. The American idea is I am successful
or the other guy that I'm a little bit envious
of is successful because he worked harder, he is more talented.
If we both play baseball and I didn't get out
of the high school junior varsity and he's a Major

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League All star, that's probably a pretty good indicator that
he's a better natural athlete than I am, That he
spent way more hours in the batting cages than I did,
that there's nothing inherently good or bad about him about
his talent at baseball. It just is. So what master

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morality is basically the value system of the dominant culture
in society. So that is Americanism. This is these are
people for whom good basically means the healthy, creative, the

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people who excel, the people who are that is morally good.
But the people who don't succeed are not morally bad.
They're essentially to be pitied. They're to say, oh, you
know what, yeah, they don't have as much as we do.
This is where you get charity. This is where Okay,

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we're going to open our hearts that we're going to
share some of our largest with them. So this is
where you get voluntary charity. And I swear something fundamentally
liberals do not get is the difference between charity and
forced sharing through taxation and socialist policies that redistribute wealth. Well,
you don't support socialism, but you guess what. Guess what

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the government takes care of people? Yeah, it does. Well,
guess what Guess what If I am voluntarily donating and
you can't see the difference between that and if I
don't pay my taxes that go to a welfare program
that I don't support, I get thrown in jail. I

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don't know what to tell you, because you are not
intelligent enough to actually hold a rational thought. So for
the master morality, for Nietzsche, there is no moral condemnation
of It's just you know what. Sometimes it's a more
realistic approach to human behavior. Sometimes people will succeed. And

(29:42):
this fundamentally, I think, explains it all. Nietzsche before Marks,
I believe they were right around the same time. But
Nietzsche explains that what socialists ultimately are are these frankly

(30:04):
losers of society, and instead of using their envy to
motivate themselves to get better, they instead want to take
everybody down. They have this deep resentment. They actually say,
and this is a critical thing in socialism. They will
actually say that to accumulate private wealth is fundamentally immoral,

(30:27):
that billionaires should not exist in society because it is
an immoral thing. You hear this all the time from
modern socialists. We should not have billionaires because that is immoral.
Nothing immral about that. Elon Musk is a trillionaire for

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God's sakes, because he runs companies that do things that
benefit all of humanity. I am better off, we are
all better off. You believe in global warming. Right, for
how many years? How many years democrats, liberals, socialists said
we need to get gas guzzlers off the streets. Elon

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Musk popularizes the electric car. He makes the Tesla ubiquitous.
That benefits all of us. Right, he's cleaning up the environment.
Is that not a moral thing? Nope, Because he is
able to make profit for himself and for the people
who work at Tesla. That is immoral in the eyes
of a socialist. He puts satellites into the sky that

(31:36):
can deliver, that can beam the Internet to the poorest,
most war torn countries on Earth. Through Starlink, we were
able to prevent Russia from turning off Ukraine's satellite. We
can stop every tin pot dictator from being able to
shield the rest of the world from seeing what brutality

(31:57):
they inflict on their citizens because the citizens can get
the Internet from Starlin. That is an objective moral good.
But it's morally bad that Musk became a trillionaire when
SpaceX had its IPO and went public. That is straight
out of Nietzsche. That is restim That is socialism in

(32:17):
a nutshell. So why does it why is it so seductive?
Why does it attract so many absolute scumbags, like the
rapist gram Platner. President Trump actually was riffing on this
during the end of the NATO summit when he was
sort of talking about the rise of communism and how

(32:40):
the people who really are the communists, the leaders, the
people who are pushing this, they really are scumbags.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
When I watch what's happening and I see these low
lives getting I mean their lowlives.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
I watch them.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
I know good people and know quality people. These are
essentially low lives, and when I see what they're talking,
I think they're very dangerous in many ways. And I've
said it, and then I said, boy, that's a pretty
big statement. Then I realized, you know, a couple of
people said, I think you're probably right. I think this country,
with this thing that's going around, is in more danger

(33:15):
than it was during World War One, World War two,
if you talk about September eleventh, if you talk about
Pearl Harbor, that was big danger. I think this is
I think the concept of US going communists, because one
thing that happens when you go communists, you never come back,
never comes back. You die in squalor. You die, you

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die a horrible death. You die in squalor and it
gets very evil and very nasty.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
So why is it that socialism attracts scumbags? Why does
it attract losers? It's pretty obvious, right, what's easier to
better yourself? To stop drinking and doing drugs, to get
a job, to work your way up through a company,
to get an education, to take care of your family,

(34:02):
to be a responsible, productive member of society, or to
keep sleeping until noon every day, vaping weed until you
pass out, and drink a half bottle of vodka every
single night while playing video games and watching the Hassan
Piker live stream, and then going out every afternoon and

(34:26):
committing acts of criminal vandalism or violence in the name
of the collective good. What is easier? Which one is
the path of least resistance? Which one? Do you think
someone who is not going to take their envy and
they don't have benign envy, they're not going to motivate

(34:48):
themselves to get better, but is instead going to try
to take someone down. It's so easy to do. That
is why it is such a seductive ideology for societies losers,
because it is easy, because it promises that all you
have to do is to vote yourself more money, not

(35:12):
just more money somebody else's money, to make people pay.
Socialism gives the people who don't succeed the political movement
to achieve the revenge on the people who they see
as morally rotten because it takes from them. And simultaneously,

(35:37):
it allows the people who are mentally stable and are
successful just do good or liberals, it allows them to
virtue signal because they're supporting the system that provides equity,
that provides fairness, that provides a better life for all,
health care for all, child care for all. They sort

(36:01):
of turn a blind eye to the fact that you
have to forcibly seize the wealth from somebody else. You're
listening to the dano' donald Show. More on this coming
up next Classical Conservatism Contemporary Style. Welcome back to the
Dano donald Show. A deep dive into the seductive power

(36:22):
of socialism. Why is it that we are fighting it
here in America after we thought we already defeated it
thirty five years ago when the Soviet Union fell. Well,
because there are a whole lot of people here in
the United States who have mainstreamed the idea that wealth
is evil. It is the Nietzschean idea of what it

(36:46):
was that word again, that's right or re sentimon Yeah,
I do a really terrible French accent. It weaponizes envy
and it allows the dregs of society to be able
to essentially join a collectivist movement where they can become successful.
They can be somebody by essentially enacting revenge politics, by

(37:11):
taking from the people who they resent. The sad reality
is there are a whole lot of people, and many more.
Study after study after study shows this on the political
left than the political right, many more, and it's consistent
across countries. It's consistent across time, it's consistent across cultures.
If you are a leftist, you are far less likely
to be happy than if you are a conservative. As

(37:34):
a result of the fact that you have fundamentally unhappy people,
many of them are not quite as successful in life,
and they become very bitter and deeply resentful of this
and those that they perceive to be more successful. Well.
Rather than benign envy which motivates people to get better,

(37:56):
to get the things that they want that others have,
to malicious envy, which makes them want to take the
successful down in socialism gives them the political movement to
achieve this, while simultaneously appealing to the virtual virtue signaling
do good or left many of whom are They are

(38:19):
very successful people, They are happy people, but they also
want to have everything be fair, and they want more importantly,
to let everybody else know that they want everything to
be fair. So how does this tie into mass migration?
Why was the birthright citizenship decision so critical last week?

(38:44):
We will discuss all of that pretty much throughout the
four o'clock hour. Coming up in the five o'clock hour,
we chat about this with Wisconsin Congressman Scott Fitzgerald. We
will get into the big political news in Wisconsin today
David Crowley formally in Sarah Rodriguez. Yes, despite their objections
to this characterization, the plot is on by the establishment

(39:08):
Dems to try to keep the socialist Francesca Horn from
running away with this primary. Stay tuned the Dan o'donalds Show.
We'll be right back. We are back starting the four
o'clock hour here on the dano' donald show. Welcome to it.
Pretty much the entire three o'clock hour was dealing with

(39:30):
the news of the day. Yes, to be sure, but
we're calling this something of a special edition of the
program in which we're taking a much deeper dive at
what is the biggest news story of the day, and
that is the rise of socialist Two biggest political developments
here in Wisconsin. Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley endorses Lieutenant

(39:52):
Governor Sarah Rodriguez formally at an event downtown at the
Athletic Club. The two of them did have to answer
question about whether or not this is in fact a
coordinated effort to stop the socialist Francesca Hong from running
away with his primary or possibly the also ran socialist

(40:13):
Mandela Barnes from possibly gaining traction and winning. This that
is the big political story here in Wisconsin. The big
national political story is rather obvious. It's the utter implosion
of the Graham Platner campaign in Maine. And he was
revealed to be a just truly vile, despicable human being.

(40:38):
But we've known that for months now, and this is
the thing that just blows my mind. He was accused
of domestic abuse by a Republican woman, a prominent social
media personality. She's been a Republican circles for a long time.
Her name is Lindsay Fifield, and she about two three

(40:58):
weeks ago, came out and said Platner was extremely abusive.
He would get drunk and they would fight and he
would grab her shoulder so hard that he would leave
a bruise. That's physical abuse. And then he would lock
her in the bathroom when she tried to leave. That's
false imprisonment. It wasn't like, you know, she would be

(41:20):
in the bathroom for two three minutes, it would be overnight.
She would fall asleep on the bathroom floor. Well, he
had her locked in there, and then somehow she would
escape in the morning or he would let her out.
I don't remember the specifics of the story that was
broken by the New York Times, and Democrats thought that
was okay, a okay, well, you know what, the people

(41:43):
of Maine are going to decide, they're going to weigh
in on this. But when a liberal, a Democrat socialist
who actually said in an interview with Jake Tapper this
week that she actually didn't want to report the sexual
assault that allegedly happened to her because she was worried

(42:07):
that it would derail the rise of socialism in Maine
and that the most important thing is stopping that evil capitalist,
Susan Collins. And she thought long and hard because if
she reported the fact that the Democrat raped her, that

(42:28):
Collins might win. I'm still struggling to understand the mentality there.
But this is a vile human being. And last hour
on the program, we discussed why socialism, why redistribution is

(42:48):
so seductive to society's losers. Like, on its face, okay,
well they can vote themselves more money, that's easy enough.
It's the path of least resistance. Well, it's those deeper
than that. And these are actually a well known psychological
and philosophical concepts in which you're envy of your fellow man.

(43:11):
Anybody who has more than you is so all consuming,
it is so malignant. It's actually known as malignant envy.
That you don't just want to tear down somebody who
has more than you. You actually and this is Friedrich Mietzsche.
He outlined the concept of resentment. It's basically resentment in French,

(43:35):
but as a philosophical psychological concept, it's you actually ascribe
you are so envious of the people who are successful
in society that you ascribe to them moral characteristics based
on the characteristics that make them successful. You are hard working, No,

(43:56):
you are exploiting others labor. You don't actually work hard.
It's other people who you are exploiting to get your wealth.
You want to pursue wealth, or you have more money
than the average citizen, you must be greedy. You must
be taking that money from somebody else. It is a
moral judgment that has passed upon you. That is socialism

(44:20):
in a nutshell. So why does it require the importation
of millions of people, primarily from the Third World? Why
does it require that? As soon as the socialists took
power in the United States, and it wasn't Barack Obama.
Obama absolutely is a socialist. He believes in the ideals

(44:45):
of socialism. He wrote like three different books about himself.
In one of them, Dreams from My Father, he essentially
outlines this and it is a pretty good intro into
the con concept of third worldism. Third worldism is the

(45:05):
idea that and it's not it. Yes, is rooted in
the idea. And remember Obama's father, The Dreams from his
father were from Kenyon. The idea is that it is
a mindset, and the mindset is that the third world
is forever developing. The people there are forever the victims

(45:28):
of the first world who is exploiting their resources. Sound familiar.
It is the exact same mindset of the socialists. The
socialists in the Western world, in the first world, are
the ones who popularize this idea. This is why colonialism
colonization is the single greatest evil because it brought with

(45:50):
it the West African slave trade. That that was the
the prime example of how Westerners, the and to gentry,
the masters of the sea, the Europeans after first contact,
made war upon, made genocide upon the otherwise peaceable people. Remember,

(46:14):
you always assign virtue to the underclass, to the third world,
because the third world they are in this dichotomy that
is set up. They are the victims. No matter what
they do individually. We don't judge them for that because
they must have done so because of the victimization, because

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of the colonization of the first world. The West African
slave trade does not exist if African kings and African
tribes are not making war upon other tribes and then
taking the prisoners of war into captivity and then selling
them at the slave markets to the Westerners who arrived

(46:59):
on the show looking for slaves to bring to the
colonies or to bring to the territories in the Caribbean.
That's how the slave trade worked. If there was not
the complicity of African tribes, if the African tribes were
not going deep into the jungles and victimizing, raping, looting

(47:21):
and pillaging, destroying entire villages, wiping out entire tribes, selling
entire tribes into slavery, there is no slave trade. Do
you think some random plantation owner from South Carolina can
get on a boat, can go into the jungles of Africa,

(47:42):
find himself some slaves, capture them, bring them back alive,
get back on the boat, and go to America. Didn't
work like that, But we're never taught that part of
the history. Because the victimized the African kings, the Africans
can never be anything other than victims. That is third

(48:04):
world ism. It is very deeply tied to socialism. It
is very susceptible then to people from the Third World
who believe themselves to be victims and are usually coming
from countries in which there is some tinpot dictator or

(48:24):
military strong man who comes to power and espouses something
resembling socialist ideals. He wraps himself in the flag of
fairness and redistribution. What it eventually becomes, though, is revenge.
Best example of this South Africa. South Africa had the

(48:48):
evil of apartheid. Again, this was the original sin of
the Western world. This was the original sin of the Dutch,
This was the original sin of the colonizers, and it
was awful. It was a race based, segregated society that
flies in the face of what we as Americans believe

(49:08):
to be the proper God given rights that all human
beings enjoy and should be exercised freely and fairly. Unless
you say, well, we had something worse slavery, yet we
fought a war against ourselves to stop that. I would
say that is pretty morally admirable. But in South Africa,

(49:29):
apartheid fell, Nelson Mandela eventually became president and the black majority,
the Black African majority, has held power ever since. Unfortunately,
there have been repeated attacks against white Afrikaner farmers in

(49:50):
rural South Africa. There has been violence committed against them.
They have been murdered, their farms have been seized, with
the backing or even full support of the government which
says this is fair because of apartheid. You are getting
your revenge, although they don't call it revenge, of course,

(50:14):
but you are making things right. We are getting our
reparations from apartheid, if you will. This is why the
Democrat Party, the Socialist movement has since the Heartseller Act
of nineteen sixty five, which basically restarted American immigration. Do

(50:37):
you realize from the great last immigration wave from Europe
of the nineteen twenties, we actually closed down immigration for
decades into this country with the specific intent that the
people who come from other countries should be assimilating into
broader American culture. The Italians coome Italian Americans, the Irish

(51:01):
become Irish Americans. Well, those were people who were coming
from a culturally and you notice I am not saying
racially very similar societies. I'm saying culturally very similar societies.
We are the spiritual brothers and sisters of Europe. Because
American culture comes directly from the traditions mostly of England,

(51:24):
but also of France, of Ireland, of Spain, of Italy,
of Western European nations, a little bit later on into
a lesser extent Eastern European nations as well. The Scandinavian countries.
Obviously here I would be remiss if I didn't say
Poland and Germany. But we are all Christian nations, and

(51:45):
I don't mean theocracies. I mean that our value systems
derive from a long two thousand year tradition with Judeo
Christian teachings that forms the basis of our morality. We
talked a lot last hour about a morality that is

(52:06):
based Nietzsche says on us assigning characteristics and assigning morality
to characteristics based on us trying to justify our own
personal failures. So we assign things like somebody has a
lot of money, someone is a billionaire. In the re mindset,

(52:28):
the billionaire is fundamentally immoral because having that much money
is evil. It's not under any objective reason just having
a billion dollars. If I was sitting here in this
radio studio and all of a sudden a billion dollars
in cash materialized in front of me, would that be moral, immoral,

(52:53):
or neutral? It would just be a random thing. Now
I'm not talking. I would be insanely happy. Producer Eric
and I would be swimming through that cash like we're
Scrooge McDuck. I'm not talking about emotionally. How would it
make it morally? From your perspective as a listener. From
my perspective, as the recipient of a billion dollars, all
of a sudden, Dan O'Donnell is a billionaire, Well, people

(53:16):
who hate me are going to really, really really hate me.
People who love me might say, Hey, good for Dan,
that's awesome that he got the suddenly appearing billion dollars.
I really hope he keeps doing his radio show. Folks,
I can tell you I am so nuts. I totally
would because I love doing this with every fiber of
my being. This is my purpose in life is to

(53:38):
talk about this is to spread the word of Americanism,
first worldism, capitalism, democracy, the constitutional Republican principles that we
just celebrated on Saturday, and to expose just how rotten
and toxic and poisonous and ideology third worldism, socialism, Nietzschean

(54:01):
ressint ymont malignant and all of this ties together. For me,
it would not be morally good or morally evil. It
would just be wow, I got really lucky that I
got this billion dollars. If it is morally evil for

(54:22):
me to simply have a billion dollars, Well, then it's
perfectly justified for the government to take that and to
give that to people who don't have a billion dollars,
and they could divide that up and wow, what good
they could do with my suddenly appeared billion dollars. I
don't deserve it. It's wrong of me to have it.

(54:42):
I am immoral for having it. It also allows governments
to justify doing to me anything they want, because I
am morally wrong for having that billion dollars. I am
morally evil. I am evil just by virtue of being
successful in society, by the view of mainstream society, that

(55:03):
I suddenly have a billion dollars, Well, there are a
whole lot of people in this world that don't believe
in the idea. Let's say I earned a billion dollars.
Let's say I invested very smartly. Let's say this show
really takes off, and everybody just wants to give Dan

(55:23):
O'Donnell money. You know, it's like, you know, they I
don't know, not a GoFundMe or whatever you do streaming,
and people just you know, give you cash and I
get a billion dollars, Well, I worked for that, or
did I I did not, according to the left. Now,

(55:43):
a big problem with the long history of socialism in
America is that it never quite took hold because it
was on purely economic terms. The truly traditional Marxist ideology says,
there is a proletariat and there is a bourgeoisie. The
bourgeoisie the owners of the means of production. The proletariat.

(56:05):
They are once again, you're seeing this exact same colonizer
colonized dichotomy. The colonizers, the bourgeoisie, always exploiting, always victimizing,
the proletariat. The proletariat are noble just by virtue of
them being in that class. We work for them, we
seize the means of production, and we create a better life. Well,

(56:26):
the problem with this is that most Americans, they are
very successful. Most Americans don't feel the need to rise
up and overthrow the system because the system is working
very very well. Native born Americans and people who come

(56:49):
to this country and subscribe to the American idea, the
white pick offense, the house, the idea that you can
go as far as your talent and drive will take you,
they are very successful. They experience benign envy, which motivates
them to do incredible things. The profit motive means that

(57:13):
they'll better themselves and better their families. And because unlike
a whole lot of liberals and socialists who don't have
deep ties to family, to friends. Again, every study, the
global satisfaction surveys will all say liberals are not as
likely to have deep ties with family, functional relationships with friends,

(57:37):
a good relationship with the broader community. They are somewhat ostracized,
self isolate. And this causes even more bitterness. Well because
conservatives and even guest liberals who believe in this American idea,
and a lot of you liberals do Democrats, traditional Democrats
who we all believed in this. It's Americanism, third world is,

(58:00):
it's Westernism. It's it's the idea that you can work
hard and in this country you can do whatever the
hell you want. You can make it happen. If you
can't make it happen, it's okay. Even if what's the
motivational saying, if you aim for the if you shoot
for the moon, you'll still land among the stars. That

(58:23):
dreams sometimes don't come true. Not everybody is going to
be an NBA All Star, Okay, but if you apply
that same drive and dedication to a business career or
maybe a basketball broadcasting career as you did your playing career,
you will still be very successful. Capitalism provides the perfect
outlet for this drive and this profit motive that not

(58:46):
only can I succeed beyond my wildest dreams, but I
can provide for the people that I love most, I
can build a better life for them. Because what it
does is it drives ontorepreneurship and ingenuity. When people are
motivated to better themselves, they bring services products. Right now,

(59:11):
we're seeing world changing technology that betters the lives of
every single person who uses that service, that product, that technology,
including ironically, the bitter socialists who hate the fact that
people are getting rich providing them with the technology, with
the world changing things that they are using to write

(59:33):
screeds against capitalism. The fact that people are using their
iPhones to tweet how much they hate the capitalist system
is one of the most delicious ironies of all So
Americans because of this innate sense of drive, this innate

(59:54):
sense that they can better themselves if they work hard
enough and if they're talented enough and s hard enough
to do it, they're very resistant to traditional Marxist theory
because even our working class proletariat is many, many times
wealthier than even the nobility the bourgeoisie of two centuries ago,

(01:00:15):
even a century ago, because of their access to the products,
to the services at an affordable price. They'll never seize
the means of production from the bourgeois because the bourgeoisi
is not morally awful. The bourgeoisie is providing the services

(01:00:38):
and the things, the product that everybody uses, Bougie's and
prolls alike, making everybody richer. That, in fact, is the
biggest problem for the socialist movement, and it has been
for decades. Well in about the nineteen sixties and nineteen seventies,

(01:01:01):
they figured out a fix for this. Don't use traditional
economic language of marx to get socialism and get communism
here in America. Infuse it with race and gender based language,
so that the new underclass isn't judged by how much

(01:01:22):
money they have. They're judged by what racial group, what gender,
what sexual orientation, or what gender identity they are. We'll
get into that coming up next here on the Dan
o'donald show, a Tour de Force of truth it is

(01:01:44):
the Dan o'donald Show. We are throughout much of this
program exposing the truth about socialism and Third worldism, the
psychology and philosophy behind it, why it is so toxic
yet so intoxicating for people who aren't able to succeed
as much as they would want in free, capitalistic societies,

(01:02:06):
and why it needs an influx of illegal immigrants and
legal immigrants, just people from the Third World to come
into Western countries and not just provide the votes for
the socialists to be able to get to power, but
also to fundamentally change the culture and to bring in

(01:02:27):
millions of people who are much more open to the
idea that America is a fundamentally racist, lawful place, and
that we need a reset, we need a societal overhaul.
Do you think it's a coincidence that as the era
of mass migration spiked over the last twenty five twenty

(01:02:48):
six years, patriotism in America steadily dropped among Democrats, among
the political party that is most likely to be comprised
of people who are not born in this country and
people who are I'm just going to say it, societies losers,
native born but who did not succeed and want to

(01:03:10):
blame others for their own failures. Socialism, communism, Marxism did
not take hold because of obviously the fact that we
waged a long Cold War against the Soviet Union. But
there were a whole lot of people who did side
with the Soviet Union. There were socialists in this country.
They were just never mainstream. And the only way that

(01:03:34):
they've been able to get socialism into the mainstream is
by infusing it with not just economic language, but also race, gender,
and sexuality language. Firstly, back in the nineteen sixties and
the nineteen seventies, you had the underground, the counter cultural

(01:03:58):
movement that was really bubbling up on college campuses. The
anti war movement was also the breeding ground for the
black panther, black nationalist movement, the women's lib movement. That
we're preaching Marxist theory but saying the underclass was no

(01:04:19):
longer ordered along the lines of socioeconomics, but along the
lines of race and gender and sexuality. White people are
the bourgeoisie. White people are the colonizers. White people are
the upper class perpetually victimizing the black and brown underclass
through what we now call systemic racism. Men the upper class.

(01:04:45):
The bourgeoisie of this gender based socialism perpetually subjugate women
through what we now call the patriarchy, straight people, marginalized
gays and transgenders that a bit later through the supposed
homophobia and transphobia of their religion. It's framed not as

(01:05:09):
Christianity or the traditional value system of the Western world,
the Judeo Christian tradition, the teachings of the Bible, the
morality that was handed down to Moses on the Ten Commandments.
It forms the basis of all Western morality. Those ten
commandments are it thou shalt not. If there is a

(01:05:30):
thou shalt not on the Ten Commandments, chances are there
is a thou shalt not in every Western Hellenistic that
means like flowing from the Roman Empire and and every
every culture in the Western world ever since. But that's
framed as Christian nationalism by the socialist leaf that it's not,

(01:05:58):
you know, this great moral system, it's not this great
basis of Western civilization is Christianity. It is hateful. It
is a hateful ideology that needs to be taken out. Now.
This gained some success in the sixties and seventies the
feminist movement did, and I'm not talking about the feminist

(01:06:21):
movement writ large the idea that women could compete for jobs,
that women could have the same careers, that that is
an objective good. I always talk about. My mother was
a product of the women's lib movement in the early
nineteen seventies, got a law degree. She graduated top of

(01:06:42):
her class from Marquete Law, one of the first two
women ever elected as circuit court judges in the history
of Milwaukee County. Look it up. I'm not going to
tell you her name, because quite frankly, I have been
spending the last hour and a half ripping on the
dregs of society for being the dregs of society, and
I don't want anybody in my family targeted, because that's

(01:07:04):
apparently what we do now. Perfect example, perfect example of
this malignant envy that leads to violence. The murder of
Brian Thompson by Luigi Mangione streets of New York, the
CEO of United Healthcare, gunned down because healthcare companies, health
insurance companies are evil because Brian Thompson. In MANGIONI the

(01:07:29):
socialist murderous psychopaths belief system. He was murdering people Thompson
because his company occasionally had to deny claims. You realized
there is a fan club for Luigi Mangio. Same thing,
Tyler Robinson assassin of Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk was so bigoted,

(01:07:49):
he was so awful, He was so homophobic and transphobic
that we need to kill him because him speaking his
mind talking about politics is so morally bankrupt. This is
so awful that we need to rise up and kill him.

(01:08:13):
That is malignant envy. That is this fundamental concept. Kind
of in a nutshell. Those two assassinations. You want to
talk about assassination, same thing with the nut job that
would be assassin of Donald Trump. No, he was not
a Republican. We have his writings. He was da duh

(01:08:33):
dabbling in socialist ideology. So in the nineteen sixties and
seventies there was some minor success in pushing this ideology,
but the failure of the Soviet Union and the rise
of the yuppies in the nineteen eighties, the wild success
of Reaganism in the eighties that sort of kept it down.

(01:08:59):
It wasn't until Obama's election, but really the Seminal events
were Trayvon Martin and Ferguson Missouri, the rise of the
black Black Lives Matter movement, and then, of course George
Floyd in twenty twenty that really got us going on
this race based socialist ideology that white automatically means oppressor,

(01:09:22):
black hispanic automatically means virtuous. That helped sweep Joe Biden
into office. Biden is not a socialist, never was. He's
a liberal. Really, He's and always has been a buffoon,
a thoroughly corrupt buffoon who just wanted to get his

(01:09:44):
illicit ribes make him and his family rich. Look, there's
the profit margin right there. It motivated the Biden family
toward all new heights of corruption. Their product, their service
was influence peddling. But the socialists who were really the
power behind the Biden throne, the ones who basically seized

(01:10:06):
for themselves the power of the presidency, they did one thing,
and one thing quickly. They opened the doors of this
country and let in ten million people, ten million people
from the developing world who were far more susceptible to
this message that the Western world, even though they were

(01:10:29):
living in it, was fundamentally wicked and oppressing them. And
the only noble thing would be to take it over
and reorder it with them at the top of society's
food chain. We'll dive into that when The Dan o'donald
Show returns. It is something of a special edition of

(01:10:49):
the dano' donald's show, The Rise of the Socialists in America,
the psychology behind it, how it ties into mass migration
and birthright citizenship, all on today's program. Now, first thing
that the left does, the socialists, who are taking advantage
of a mentally infirmed Joe Biden. First thing they do

(01:11:11):
throw open the borders immediately upon seizing power in twenty
twenty one. They bring in poor, unskilled people from all over,
but particularly they want to give temporary protected status to
people from the poorest nations in Central and South America, Africa,

(01:11:33):
the Caribbean, all of those nations, by the way, who
have had socialist or socialist adjacent strongman governments in the past.
People from those countries are given priority access, they get
temporary protected status. In Haiti, they've had temporary protected status.
Supreme courtis mixed that ruling that temporary means temporary. People

(01:11:56):
in Haiti had temporary protected status since the earthquake in
twenty ten, were halfway through twenty twenty six, they got
protections so they would never ever ever be deported. People
were just granted asylum claims and allowed to disappear into
the United States, even though immigration authorities knew full well

(01:12:18):
none of those claims were valid. None of those claims
would be accepted, and those people would have to go back,
only they would never go back because they were allowed
to keep living in this country illegally. Any effort to
deport them, any effort to close the border was framed
as fundamentally immoral, and what it really was was getting

(01:12:40):
people by the millions. And we have ten million, give
or take people who came in between twenty twenty four
and early twenty twenty five, just arriving in this country
far more open to a socialist form of government. And
the Biden administration critically didn't just keep them all in
Texas or keep them in Florida, ports of arrival, California, Arizona,

(01:13:05):
the border states. No, they were shuttling them across the country.
Why they just happen to be going to swing states.
Socialists are giving them lucrative welfare benefits. They're giving them
an elevated status in liberal society as new arrivals, our
new guests, our new neighbors, whatever they called them. Of course,

(01:13:26):
there has always been a pathway to citizenship for them,
which I call a pathway to voting. But it doesn't
really matter if they become citizens or not. The children
that they have on American soil, they're automatically citizens, and
people from those nations tend to have way more children
than native born Americans. All you have to do is

(01:13:49):
wait a generation and you've got a brand new class
of people who are voting, who are eligible to vote,
and who are far more open to socialists. I don't
really have time to go through all the studies, every
single study, every study. People from the developing world are
far more susceptible, by several standard deviations, far more open

(01:14:14):
to socialist government than people in the developed world. Because
people in the developed world are pretty happy with the
way things are, because they're doing very well for themselves.
They're free, they're educated, they are able to have access
to goods in service by other free, educated, driven, hard
working people with the profit motive who benefit all of

(01:14:36):
society with their productive output. But in the third world,
things aren't going so well, primarily because of the socialist
form of revenge, race based, tribal based governments that are
put into power. The children of these immigrants, they grow up,

(01:15:00):
they're indoctrinated by the liberal controlled school system to believe
that America is a fundamentally unjust place because of colonization
and slavery and so forth, and that they must change it.
Their culture is what they're exposed to at home, that
they're already predisposed to socialism. They believe themselves to be

(01:15:22):
special because of their status as racial, ethnic, national origin minorities,
and they also still feel victimized by American racism and capitalism,
and they're drawn to this new ethno socialism. They become
the new socialist leaders. They're not elected by American citizens,

(01:15:45):
though they're elected by the millions of other foreigners who
are brought into this country given amnesty by Democrats. And unfortunately,
Reagan was snookered into that one by Ted Kennedy, the
driving force behind Heartseller, which reopened American immigration and open
the floodgates first of all in nineteen sixty five. And

(01:16:06):
they're all American citizens, but they still have the same
basic cultural value system many of them do, although that's
changing Mexicans in particular, many Hispanics. They are becoming way
more conservative because they've been in this country for so long.
They realize, Hey, this capitalism and freedom thing, this is
pretty damn special, it's pretty damn awesome. They're starting businesses,

(01:16:27):
they're building those businesses, they're having children, they are integrating
into American society. So we're bringing in people from the
Third World so that they can become the new zoron
Mamdani's Is it a coincidence that Mamdani is the face

(01:16:47):
of this new socialism? He's a Muslim again, Muslim's very,
very predisposed towards socialist governments. He was born in Uganda,
and in his election in New York City, native born
New Yorkers, native born Americans voted against him overwhelmingly. How

(01:17:08):
did he win? He won overwhelmingly with people who were
not born here, people imported specifically to here to vote
for and to become the new culture of socialism. We'll

(01:17:29):
be right back, literally just a couple of seconds left,
not minutes seconds here on the Dan O'donnald Show. Before
we got to go to break five o'clock hour, we
will talk with Congressman Scott Fitzgerald about all of this. Folks,
trust me, we are going to do much more on this.
I just wanted to introduce this about how all of
this is tied together, mass migration, birthright citizenship, and the

(01:17:52):
rise of socialism, How the psychology and philosophy behind it
makes people susceptible to it, makes it a siren song
for people, how it was infused with racial politics, and
how people are being brought into this country not just
to serve as votes for Democrats, but also to fundamentally

(01:18:15):
change the culture and make the majority far more open
to socialism. You're listening to the Dan o'donald Show five
o'clock hours. Starts now here on the Dan o' donald Show.
Something of a special edition of the program with all
of the developments surrounding the rise of socialism in America.

(01:18:38):
This week from David Crowley here in Wisconsin, dropping his
bid for the Democratic nomination, getting behind Sarah Rodriguez officially
today at an event in Milwaukee, basically saying, Hey, everybody
needs to get out and get behind Sarah Rodriguez because
the alternative is one of the two socialists. Francesca honk

(01:18:59):
or Mande Labarnes. So that's going on in Wisconsin. You've
got nationally the big political story Graham Platner, one of
the more prominent socialists in America, dropping out after rape
allegations surfaced. And this was the second set of sexual
abuse and domestic abuse allegations to come out against Platner.

(01:19:19):
But the first about three weeks ago. Well that was
from a Republican so Democrats weren't too concerned about that. Well,
now the ex girlfriend who came out on Monday is
a socialist Democrat herself, so there was no saying, okay, well,
this was politics that is motivating her to come out. Now,

(01:19:40):
why was it that so many people throughout history have
been attracted to socialism who we might consider society's losers,
like Graham Platner. We discussed that and why it is
that socialists today need to import people from the third
world to make their dream of utopia happens. So a

(01:20:02):
fascinating discussion. Thank you for indulging me, ladies and gentlemen,
because these are the things I think about. This This
was what I was sort of working on. I've been
up two straight nights just kind of thinking about this stuff,
writing about this stuff, researching this stuff, so this and
this is important stuff. I mean, this is the existential

(01:20:24):
battle of our time that we are facing right now,
right here in Wisconsin. Especially if Hong wins that primary,
as I suspect she is going to, Wisconsin is going
to be the last sort of bulwark against the national
spread of socialism. Because it's one thing for commies to
win in the Commy corridor of New York, even in Colorado,

(01:20:45):
in Denver as getting to be much more of a
left wing state, Wisconsin is seen as the ultimate swing
state if you literally have a communist nominee for governor,
and if Heaven forbid, a communist becomes our gun, my goodness,
what a development that would be? All right, if you'd

(01:21:07):
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Judge Hannah Dugan getting off with a slap on the
wrist yesterday by liberal federal judge Lynn Adelman. Wisconsin congressmen

(01:21:53):
and great friend at the Dan o'donald Show, Scott Fitzgerald. Scott,
always appreciate you coming on with Do appreciate.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
It, Hey, Dan, good to be with you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
You know, obviously I want to talk about all of
that stuff, and it's important. But to me, I think
there is nothing more important than memorializing a friend of
both of our, a very very good friend of yours.
I got to know him through politics. He passed away
a couple of days ago. Death became public about twenty

(01:22:24):
four hours ago. Little more than twenty four hours ago.
Waalkeshaw County executive Paul Farrow, who died at the way
too young age of sixty one after a courageous battle
with cancer. He was the former chairman of the state Party.
He was a state senator. He was a state assemblyman.
Born into a political family, his mother, of course, Margaret Faroh.

(01:22:46):
But you know, Scott, I think you remember him today
the same way I do, not as this towering figure
of conservatism in Wisconsin, which he was, but just as
a fundamentally good, decent, nice kind man.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Oh. Absolutely. I mean it's just heartbreaking.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
I was able to have discussions with Paul about his
battle with cancer, somebody that was just always upbeat as well,
which is just phenomenal to me that somebody could keep
their spirits up knowing that this was going to be,
you know, taking everything out of their family, it was

(01:23:31):
going to be just a difficult struggle. But he was
always upbeat over the last couple of years while he
was going through this. And I have a long long
history with the Pharaoh family. Actually, I mean Margaret and
I served together in the state Senate, so I was
very good friends already with Margaret when I met Paul,

(01:23:55):
and then he later ran for the Assembly. So my brother,
when he was speaker uh In in the Assembly, was
good friends with Paul, and then he came over to
the Senate where he ended up being the assistant majority leader.
So uh, you know, we have a long, long history
together and just a wonderful man and a wonderful family,

(01:24:16):
and Uh, it's just heart break. I mean the work
that he and UH and the mayor did in Walkshaw
during the Christmas Parade tragogy. I mean, he was a
big part of why those communities and really Walkshaw County
could uh continue to try and heal over what happened
there as well. So I think there's a lot of

(01:24:36):
people that that recognize that that part of Paul as well.
But yeah, he's he's certainly going to be missed. He
just a just a wonderful man.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Well, Scott, seriously, my deepest condolence is I knew you
were close with him. I had forgotten you and the
former lieutenant governor had served for for so long that
you know, just she too. I can tell you just
a quick story about who the pharaohs were, like, I

(01:25:06):
always remember Paul. So I live in southeast Wisconsin, obviously,
and I would always be asked to go on the
Lincoln Day circuit, right, They'd want me to mc every
Lincoln date Washington County, Ozaki County. Yeah, I loved it
in Milwaukee County. But you know, we call it the

(01:25:28):
rubber chicken dinner circuit. Because and this is no diss
to the great places, the great venues that host us,
but you know, there's a certain level of sameness to
all of this. What I will never forget is being
in the back. There had to be ten twelve years
ago being in the back at American Serb Hall, and

(01:25:50):
this was years. It was kind of a tradition. I
would sort of meet Paul back at the bar and
we would just kind of, you know, like surreptitiously have
a couple of drinks and not to laugh too loud
because the speakers were speaking. We did it. I think
we were back there while I'm not kidding. Sarah Palin

(01:26:11):
was talking at the twenty sixteen Do you remember that
it was the big where cruise right before the primaries?
Like cruise Kasik Trump couldn't make it, so he sent
Sarah Palin. I'm not ashamed to admit that Paul and
I were having some fun. I had not driven there
that night, my wife did, and I was done speaking

(01:26:33):
for the evening. So we were laughing so hard that
people were like, the national cameras are all there, and
then I'm thinking, I'm like, oh, I think we might
be picked up by the cameras. We should probably move.
That of course gets him to laugh even hard. I'll
never forget that. But one of the very first ones
I did. It had to be twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen.

(01:26:55):
He introduces me to his mom and I think I
I had either just got to show just started filling
in on W I S N. And she she says, oh,
my good, you are so talented. You are I I
love listening to you. And I'm thinking this is Margaret Farah.
I'm just you know, I was so honored, and that

(01:27:16):
was like the first time that that a big name
in politics knew who I was and to say she
was a listener, and it just it it so filled me,
uh with with the belief that I could do anything,
you know, that that I was making a difference, to
that my voice was being heard, and that's just that's
just how that that whole family I just they they

(01:27:38):
I am a firm believer Congressman in the The thing
people remember about you is how you make them feel,
right like your impact on people ultimately the only legacy
we have. Ultimately, you know, we can we can leave
an inheritance to our kids. What we do in life,
you know, people will remember. But the the the only

(01:28:00):
real thing that we leave behind is the impact that
we have on other human beings, which lives on forever
in our children and grandchildren and so forth. And that's
just what I'm thinking today is the way Paul Farrell
always made me feel, was like I mattered, like I Yeah,

(01:28:21):
just the.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
Most friendly, outgoing Yeah. Just a wonderful man. Just wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Yeah. I know a lot of people in this audience
had a chance to meet him. If you didn't, he
was a truly great human being. Paul will miss you forever.
Our condolences to his friends and family. Scott Fitzgerald, Wisconsin Congressman,
joining me here on the Dan O'Donnell Show. So, the
big story to me, sir, both nationally and locally here

(01:28:47):
in Wisconsin today is that rise of socialists. It is
the spread of a toxic ideology that is being represented
by toxic people like Graham Platner, truly a human being,
and people who maybe don't have the criminal element in
their background, but people who do truly seem to fundamentally

(01:29:11):
dislike this country, resent this country, want to tear down
this country. And rebuild it in their own image, like
New York's Mayor Zorn Mamdanni, and Wisconsin is now sort
of the epicenter of that battle against socialism, the last stand.
I believe I've been saying this all week. It's appropriate

(01:29:32):
that Tom Tiffany's campaign is calling him the damn Man,
and I think this is somewhat intentional. He's going to
be the damn that saves us from the flood of socialism.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
It's a great, great analogy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
I mean, the Democrats have a problem, and don't kid yourself.
They are absolutely pushing the red button at this point.
I see it in DC. Now it's becoming more and
evident that they have absolutely lost control of some of
these races that they thought they certainly had in the bag.

(01:30:09):
You know, the National Republican Congressional Committee, the NRCC has
a group of Republicans that we referred to as patriots.
They're in the targeted seats, the seats that the Democrats
are publicly proclaiming are their targets. And you can just
watch that. That shuffle that's going on right now is

(01:30:32):
happening because some of these longtime incumbents that they thought
they knew the message that they had the money and
that they had the ability of the incumbency to continue
to just be on automatic on cruise control, and suddenly
that's not the case. So there is a meltdown going

(01:30:52):
on behind the scenes in DC right now when it
comes to the D triple C. So I welcome. You know,
this is always a hurdle these mid terms for whichever
party is not in power, and here we go. You know,
the dynamics are changing on a daily basis, and again

(01:31:13):
we're watching it right now in our own gubernatorial which
is now you know, gaining national attention as well. So
it wouldn't be surprising for me if this certainly assists
Congressman Tiffany in his race, because I think it'll mean
more resources as people pay attention nationwide.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
Yeah, I think if Hong is the nominee, this becomes
as I've said pretty much all week, if Hong is
the nominee, I think everything did change, as you said,
after the New York primaries, as soon as all of
those socialists won, and it was like it didn't matter.
Dan Goldman is one of the absolute most visible Democrats

(01:31:55):
on television. It didn't matter. It did not make fifteen
term Democrat incumbent went down to defeat in Colorado fifteen
term fifteen, she was in Congress for thirty years. It
didn't matter. Democrat socialist who is like four years old
when she started in Congress, takes her out because that's
where the party's base is. And I believe congressmen if

(01:32:21):
Hong or, to a lesser extent, Barnes, but certainly Hong,
and I think if one of the two is going
to win, my money would be on Francesca Hong. This
becomes the single most watched primary in the state's history.
It is the biggest in the nation, and it is
going to be the focal point and it is going

(01:32:42):
to be sort of the message moving forward into the fall. Hey,
socialism is even on the rise in the upper midwestern
state of Wisconsin. Wisconsin the ultimate swing state. They are
on the verge of going full communists. Do you agree
with that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:58):
The problem they have is that if you listen to
some other coundates, they're trying to soft sell the idea
that socialism is a concept that's been around for years.
It's actually more popular than people give it credit. For us.
It's not a communistic type of philosophy. It's just a

(01:33:21):
basic sharing of public resources. And we all know that
if you've sat through one history class in high school
and listen to a teacher described the different forms of government,
that the difference between socialism and communism is slight, and

(01:33:42):
it's basically just the way that some of the goods
are divvied up among society. So, you know, they can
continue to try and soft sell it, but there's a
lot of Americans that I think see right through that
and they're not going to tolerate it. Now, that doesn't
mean that Deane County and the machine there that continues

(01:34:03):
to elect candidates to the Wisconsin Supreme Court isn't going
to be in full force, which is why I think that,
you know, it's going to be very difficult for any
of the other candidates to outperform her because it's going
to take some type of split vote in the city

(01:34:25):
of Milwaukee to Milwaukee County.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Do you think, though, that is there some truth to
the idea that you know, establishment Democrats, the Democrats who
currently control the party apparatus, that they are almost more
scared of socialist Democrats and they are not like the
Norwegian socialists. I always hear that. You know what, maybe

(01:34:50):
on a show next week, I'm going to bust that myth. Now,
these are straight up communists. The president of the Democratic
Socialists of America actually came out and said, no, our
end goal is totally communism. They can soft sell it
all they want, but I think the establishment Democrats they
know what they're dealing with, and they see all of
these longtime incumbents getting primaried right out of office, and

(01:35:12):
they see themselves as next. I think they're actually more
scared of someone like Francesco Hon winning the governorship than losing,
because if she does, that means that socialism is successful,
can be successful, and everybody who's not a socialist, you're out.
Is there truth to that? Do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:35:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
And I think that's why you've got some Democrats right now.
It appears members of both the House and the US
Senate saying, listen, if you want to start your own party,
go ahead and start your own party. You're not a Democrat. Yeah, Well,
that's the first red flag that they are absolutely in
a meltdown. If you're trying to fix your problem by

(01:35:56):
alienating a specific segment of your own party, that means
you're nowhere, and that's exactly where the Democrats are right
now nationwide.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
Yeah, I think they're in a mess, But don't I
think kid yourself. You said that we face an uphill battle,
We face a tough electoral climate. The generic ballot suggests
that just the nature of politics in America, the party
that is out of power in the White House typically
does very, very well in the next midterm. That means

(01:36:29):
Democrats are probably due for a big year. But did
the dynamics of the race the midterms themselves really change
all that much now that there is this hyper focus
on socialism. Do you think that what happened in New
York and what happened in Colorado gave Republicans a boost
and that now they can fundraise off of the fact

(01:36:52):
that they're running against literal socialists and the fact that
the Democratic Party is, at least it seems to be
so split. Do you think that ultimately shifts things toward
the Republicans.

Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
Well, it's the reason that the party that does not
control the White House does poorly in the midterms is
because of apathy. Right, people stay home, they're not excited
about it. And with the environment, we find ourselves in
and with the war and I ran, and gas prices
being high. You know, that's a reason for maybe somebody

(01:37:25):
that only showed up to the polls and voted for
Donald Trump may say, you know, I'm busy this summer,
this I really don't have time, and then in November
they don't show up. I mean that that is really
the key. If those people become energized, and if they
really care about this state and this country, and they

(01:37:46):
see that these socialists are actually gaining some ground, I mean,
that may be the factor that actually puts the energy
in some of these longtime Trump voters to say, geez,
I got to vote even in the midterms this time.
I think it. I think it's a change in dynamics
that we haven't seen in.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
Some time that I didn't even think of Congressman, that
the apathy of what I've been calling the only Trump voter,
the conservative who loves this country, the patriots, but they say,
you know, it doesn't really matter. I saw a study
from the Institute for Reforming Government that said the number
one reason why a lot of these people who voted

(01:38:23):
for Trump in twenty twenty didn't vote in the twenty
twenty two gubernatorial race. Number one issue that was given.
Number one reason was well, I don't think what happens
in Madison really impacts me personally. Well, if you've got
a socialist who's going to be running things, it makes
it real easy to make the case that, yes, it

(01:38:46):
absolutely does have a huge impact on you. So I
think that do you think that becomes now the overarching
Republican message that we are standing in the way of
this country becoming a socialist nation? Because yeah, absolutely true,
it's undeniably.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
It folds in well with what the President has been
talking about, really going back to his first term, which
is not just make America great, but also this renewed
sense of patriotism, which has been an underscored by the
two hundred and fiftieth anniversary that we just celebrated. So,
I mean there's a lot of there's a lot of

(01:39:28):
people that are upbeat about the country. Those are not
necessarily the people you hear from all the time, but
those are the people that you would think would see
the seriousness and like I said, push the red button
and say hey, we have to do something here. This
is crazy that these socialists have gained this much traction.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
He is Wisconsin Congressman Scott Fitzgerald. I'm taking a look
at the clock. Congressman. We went way longer than I
thought we were going to in this segment. It's a
testament to how much we enjoy having you on the program.
Thank you for being so generous with your time. Really
do appreciate it. You are you are back home in
district this week. What is on your agenda for the

(01:40:11):
foreseeable future.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
We have got just a ton of work within the
Judiciary Committee when we get back on Monday. In DC,
We've got a two week stretch here where we're trying
to run a number of individual bills in the UH
and FIZA too, which is lingering. We need to we
need to make sure that that is done and wrapped up.

(01:40:35):
And then in the Financial Services Committee, I have been
working on a couple of bills that are specific to
government sponsored enterprise geses and Freddie and Fanny and trying
to get them out of that conservative ship so that
we can free up some dollars for home building across America,

(01:40:56):
which is something that we think will take off if
we can get that all in a good place. So
it's a bill I'm working on as well, so we
got our hands full.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Well, good luck with that, sir, Please keep us posted.
I'm sure you will not be a stranger. Congressman Scott
fisherild thank you as always, really do appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
Thanks Dan, good to be with you.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
You too, you are listening to The Dan o'donald Show.
Back in just a second. Our thanks again to Wisconsin
Congressman Scott Fitzgerald. Always do appreciate having him on the
program because of well what you heard, just unfiltered, candid
thoughts about the body politic about the state that we
all love so much. Welcome back to the Dan o'donald Show.

(01:41:39):
Earlier today, I think both Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley
and Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez sort of proved correct something
that both Congressman Fitzgerald and I were talking about in
our interview, and that is the fact that there is
deep suspicion that the establishment Democrats, who they agree with

(01:42:02):
the socialists on about ninety nine percent of the policies,
they're just terrified that the socialists will take power and
get all of them out, that they'll primary them, that
they'll take them out of the positions of power within
the party and all of that. But there is significant
belief that among especially Hang's followers and pretty much anybody

(01:42:24):
who knows how these things work like me, that there
is a plot, that this is part of an effort
to ensure that a socialist is not the standard bearer
for the Wisconsin Democratic Party, that in fact, David Crowley
was either told you gotta get out, David, if you

(01:42:46):
want a future in this party, or he was told, hey,
you're going to have a prominent position in the Ronriguez administration,
or wait your turn. If Sarah wins, you are the
in line. If she loses, certainly you're going to be
our candidate in twenty thirty. This is just how it works.

(01:43:07):
This is what happened in twenty twenty two. It's exactly
what they did. They got every non Mandela Barnes candidate
out of the race. It's exactly This is the literal,
exact strategy that was employed for Joe Biden in twenty twenty.
The idea was to get every other candidate out of
the race except the two socialists, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders,

(01:43:29):
and Biden, so that the two socialists would split the
left wing vote, the Radical Looney vote, and that Biden
would get everybody else, he'd win a narrow plurality, or
he would win just enough delegates to get through. That
is literally the plan here. It's so beyond obvious that

(01:43:50):
everybody can see it. Democrats know what's going on. The
Socialists are going to get ticked. And at the event
today in which Crowley formally endorsed rod Rega as CBS
fifty eight reporter aj byattpor for my money, one of
the very best in the state at just asking good,
deep probing questions, getting to the point asking what people

(01:44:13):
want to know. He asked Rodriguez flat out, there are
people who are concerned that this is in fact an
establishment ploy to deny the nomination to the candidate that
clearly the base wants Francesca Hong or possibly to a
lesser extent, Mandela Barnes. What do you say to that.
Before she could even answer, Crowley jumped in, take a

(01:44:36):
listen before.

Speaker 5 (01:44:37):
The Lieutenant governor answers that question, I want to be
very clear about something. Nobody called me or anything like
that to ask me to step out of this race.
This race is about making sure that we can have
the best candidate run in this race. So having six
different candidates, we are now I think one week we
going to have into early voting, and I think it's
extremely important that all of us as candidates start to

(01:44:59):
make decisions about how we need to win this race
and making sure that we are keeping the Democratic Party
and keeping the people at the center of all of
these decisions.

Speaker 6 (01:45:09):
So I want to be very clear that there was
no establishment process. This is me making good decision in
this race to to support Sarah Rodriguez because I believe
that she is the best candidate.

Speaker 4 (01:45:23):
What I would ask people is to look at my website,
look at what I've done for the people of Wisconsin,
and look at what I'm planning to do for the
people of Wisconsin. I think you will see that the
things that I am proposing are things that Wisconsin I want,
and I am the strongest candidate to make sure we
get across the finish line this November.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
Yeah, So it's just that Rodriguez happens to be the best.
If David Crowley really thought Sarah Rodriguez was the best
candidate for the job, this is the thing that's so
disingenuous about this sort of thick. If he really thought
she were the best candidate for the job, he would
not have run. He would have just endorsed her. He

(01:46:04):
would have right away got she was the first candidate
in the race, if he thought she was the best
candidate for the if any Democrat thought she was the
best candidate for the job, if they really believed that
Sarah Rodriguez was the only one who can build coalitions,
whatever the hell that means, and she can work, she

(01:46:24):
can reach across the Oh yeah, yeah, yes. Please tell
me about how when your party is calling our party
the Nazi party, we are going to reach across the
isle and work together, folks. I don't think it's like
they think. We don't remember how almost exactly one year ago,

(01:46:47):
when Governor Ebers announced that he wasn't going to run
for a third term, and of course, Sarah Rodriguez accidentally
jumped the gun. I won't get into all of that.
That's why the administration really, really really Riguez in particular
hates me. But it's also a big reason I pointed
out by the way that her I'm running announcement basically
gave away the game that I got. The scoop that

(01:47:10):
Evers was going to make the announcement he wasn't going
to run again, and I knew exactly the day that
it was going to happen. They literally moved it back
a full week just so they could dunk on me
and say, oh, look, Danie o'donald. He said it's going
to happen. It didn't happen. Well, unfortunately, when Sarah announced

(01:47:32):
that she was running, she did it on a YouTube
video and made the video public that everybody could see
the day after Ever's announcement. Well, the video still said
she created the video the day that Evers was originally
going to announce his retirement, meaning I was right. They

(01:47:52):
really did push his announcement back a week just to
spite me, just so I wouldn't be right. And I
was told by multiple multiple people, multiple source of Democrat
sources that they were furious at Sarah Rodrigez and they
didn't particularly like her. The Evers administrator is just absolutely
furious at her, and Evers never endorsed her, probably never

(01:48:14):
endorsed her. She could have cleared the field if she
was so great, If she was so good, we would
not have the Francesca Hong panic on the left. They
would not be freaking out that a socialist is going
to win their primary, because Sarah Rodrigoz would be so good.
Sarah Rodriguez would be so awesome that she would have
just locked this thing up. Like Tom Tiffany, for example,

(01:48:37):
I know, yes, yes, Josh Showman, great friend of the show,
Washington County executive, great, great leader and brilliant right future
in the Republican Party. He was the first candidate. As
soon as Tom Tiffany got in, it was pretty That
was one where it was like, okay, Tom. Nobody was
told to stay out, Oh this is Tom's remember Tommy.

(01:48:58):
Tommy Thompson was Oh, I'm going to get in. I'm
going to get in like he always does, and ultimately decided,
as he always does not do. Everybody said, yeah, you
know what, Tom Tiffany is actually probably the perfect candidate.
We're not quit. And as soon as he got the
Trump endorsement, Schauman said, you know what. Day later he's like,

(01:49:18):
I'm not going to overcome that. I'm not going to Clearly,
the people have spoken, the president has spoken. Tiffany came in,
immediately started dominating the polls, and he endorsed him immediately.
Sarah Rodriguez was running for months before Crowley or anybody
else got in the race. She didn't get any endorsements.

(01:49:42):
Now suddenly she she is the candidate that every Democrat
needs to get behind. She is the kid originally was
supposed to be David Crowley. Crowley was the one I
am told now by multiple people that they wanted to
rally behind. The problem is Crowley has had such a
bad year with scandal after scandal, the health insurance coverage

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laps in Milwaukee County, the budget deficit, mcts having money
problems that he just looked so incompetent that Republicans would
have a field day against him. He can't even run
Milwaukee County. How's he supposed to run Wisconsin? Nobody wanted
Sarah Rodriguez. Now suddenly she's the one that everybody else,
Missy Hughes and David Crowley, and I'm sure Joel Brennan

(01:50:27):
and kel De Royce and everybody else, they're just gonna
suddenly discover that Sarah Rodriguez right now, at this exact moment,
is the very best candidate. If you say so. You're
listening to the Dan o'donald show back in just a second,
spent all commercial break thinking about just how insanely disingenuous
it is. David Crowley. Oh, she, Sarah Rodriguez is just

(01:50:51):
she is the one we need. Okay, well, why did
you run? Why did you get in the race after
Sarah Rodriguez was already in the race. No Democrat, no
Democrat thinks that Sarah Rodriguez is the best possible candidate.
This is Tony Evers. This was Tony Evers. I went

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back and I found the sign by the sound bite.
I went back and found the sound bite of Tony
Evers uh being asked after lieutenant governor his own lieutenant
governor Rodriguez was in the race. And it is, by
the way, uh, somewhat notable that he has not endorsed
either of his two lieutenant governors, Mandela Barnes or Sarah Rodriguez. Okay, fine,

(01:51:33):
it's a it's a it's a primary. He doesn't want to,
you know, tip the scales too much. Uh. You better believe, though,
if the Dems think that Franny Hong is running away
with this thing, he's going to endorse. They'll get anybody
and everybody, every heavy hitter, to endorse Sarah Rodriguez. But uh,
we actually went back and found the audio of Tony

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Evers being directly asked, are you going to endorse your
lieutenant governor Sarah Rodriguez? His answer yet absolutely not.

Speaker 7 (01:52:08):
The Lieutenant governor of the Weekend told this, you would
welcome your endorsement.

Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
I'm curious, are you going to endorse in the Democratic primary? Now?

Speaker 7 (01:52:15):
Probably not. I tend to try to avoid that, so no,
I'll never say never. But I want to make sure
who the rest of the candidates are before I even
make that decision. That's the important thing. I tend to
not get involved with primaries in general, and so it's

(01:52:39):
probably where I hope to be again. But at that
by then turn if there's somebody that really needs support
and I want them to win, I might get in.

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
That's an amazing answer if you think about it. He's saying,
if somebody gets in the race that I think is
really good and really quol qualified and I really want
to win, then maybe I'll endorse. But now no, At
the time, the only candidate in the race was Sarah Rodriguez.
It does not get any more blatant than that. Evers

(01:53:14):
didn't want to endorse or Evers doesn't think she's a
good candidate. David Crowley clearly doesn't think she's a good candidate,
or at the very least he thinks he was a
better candidate. Well, unfortunately that theory was disproven yesterday when
he was forced to drop out. And yes, I do
believe he was forced to drop out. He was ever

(01:53:37):
either told that David time to drop out, we need
to rally around Sarah Rodriguez, you do it or else,
or possibly he was promised something, he was given something
in exchange. What do you think about the concept of karma? Producer, Eric,
Are you a believer in car somewhat? Okay, it's a

(01:54:04):
it's a funny thing like if you if you tempt
the golf gods by even thinking, by even thinking that
you've got the game figured out, you are guaranteed to
have like a nine on the next hole.

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
What was the old saying pride goeth before a fall?
I believe that's out of the Bible. U. Or do
you believe just in good old fashioned terrible terrible timing,
whatever it is? This is it? Yesterday morning in the
Cap Times Madison newspaper website. Uh, there was a big

(01:54:43):
puff piece article on David Crowley yesterday, the title his
boyhood nickname was Governor Crowley. Now he's seeking the job.
A couple hours later, he was no longer seeking the job. Womp, womp, womp.

(01:55:05):
They actually had to attach an editor's note. Hours after
this article published, Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley announced ending
his campaign for governor. In a statement, he said it
had become clear he wouldn't be the Democratic nominee. Ah,
that is just bad. Bad timing for the Cap Times,
bad timing for David Crowley. You're listening to the Dan

(01:55:28):
o'donalds Show. We'll be back in just a second with
more conservative thought and not just talk. Just a couple
of minutes left here on the Dan o'donald Show. I
want to say thank you once again to Congressman Scott
Fitzgerald for being so generous with his time. We sort
of got lost talking about a very dear friend of

(01:55:49):
ours who just passed away, Milwaukee County Executive Paul Farrow,
just a very good and decent man. It was something
of a different show to day, and I want to
thank you our listeners for really responding to that as
we kind of tied everything together to the best of
my abilities as to everything that's been going on in

(01:56:11):
this country, from the rise of socialism that we're seeing
right now, which has coincided with the decline in patriotism
and pride in America. These are people who fundamentally dislike
this country because of the Nietzschean idea of malignant envy,
this idea that it's a resentment that really colors your morality,

(01:56:34):
that says the American ideals are not just wrong, I
don't just disagree with them, they are evil. Well. Too
many Americans believe in that. So what the socialist movement
has done is to just import people from the third
world who believe not just in America here, but across

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Europe as well. To import people who believe in those
ideas and will not just provide the votes to elect socialists,
but will change the culture of the countries that they
come to. Out of time for this edition of The
Dan o'donald Show, take it a long weekend tomorrow. I

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am off back Monday. Enjoy the weather, have a great weekend, Wisconsin.
You're listening to The Dan o'donald Show.