Governor Evers' State of Confusion

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Now that the spring election ballot is set, We will
talk about politics, will talk about Governor Evers State of
this State address, and much much more, including a big,

(04:19):
big win for YAF as well as the Wisconsin Institute
for Law and Liberty as the Department of Education backs
down on a race based program now here at home.
As I said, Governor Evers delivered his final State of
the State address, and he used it to call for
a special session of the legislature to end what he's
calling partisan jerry mandering. Did he like forget Wisconsin is

(04:42):
using the electoral maps his commission drew. We will dive
into all of the details later on on the Dan
O'Donnells show. Well, the biggest applause line I believe in
last night's final State of the State address clearly came
when Governor Evers took credit for Republicans in the state

(05:04):
legislature cutting tax Thanks to.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
Our bipartisan efforts to cut taxes, Wisconsin taxpayers, we'll see
over two billion dollars in tax relief annually, with most
of those cuts going to the middle class. Now, not
only I not only kept my campaign promise to Wisconsin
nights that I deliver a ten percent tax cut for
middle class families. In fact, middle class taxpayers have seen

(05:29):
an income tax cut of twenty three percent, more than
double what I promised.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Now, why were those numbers, those tax decreases, cuts so significant,
Because they weren't Evers, not a single one of them.
In fact, Republicans never once, not once, in Governor evers
eight years in office, nearly eight years in office, did
they actually adopt one of his budgets. Instead, they actually

(05:57):
ripped up every single budget proposal that he ever made
and then simply went ahead with their Oh, the biggest
tax cuts, the ones that Evers took credit for in
his final State of the State last night, came in
the twenty twenty one to twenty twenty three state budget,
in which Governor Evers was going to be running for reelection,
and there was significant concern that he was simply going

(06:18):
to veto the entire budget where Republicans significantly cut taxes
income taxes for pretty much every single Wisconsin night, and
there was a long drawn out drama about would he
or wouldn't he veto the entire thing? Would he use
his significant partial veto authority. Instead, he barely used any

(06:39):
vetos and instead largely passed the Republican budget as it
was in the summer of twenty twenty one. Why because
in the fall of twenty twenty two he was going
to stand for reelection and knew that the single best
thing that he could do would be to take credit
for other people's work. You might remember that Evers, when
he was running for governor in twenty eighteen, was to

(07:00):
be a serial plagiarist. In fact, we hear on the
Dan O'Donnell Show were among the first who reported on
this that Governor Evers basically lifted pretty much his entire
state education plan from other sources without any sort of attribution. Now,
the media largely ignored this since a Mary Burke plagiarism

(07:24):
scandal four years earlier helped to derail her gubernatorial campaign,
and they weren't going to make the same mistake twice
with the twenty eighteen nominee Tony Evers. But this is
a long standing practice of Wisconsin's governor to take credit
for other people's work, and that's exactly what he did.
He actually had the goal to run for reelection as

(07:44):
a tax cutting Democrat governor, even though he was threatening
to veto the budget up until the very moment that
he surprisingly signed it with very minimal partial vetos. Now,
he was actually asked, after he gave a speech right
after signing that budget why he was taking credit for
the tax cuts that included that were included in it.
Do you know what he infamously said, how he was asked,

(08:08):
can you possibly take credit for the Republican budget that
includes tax cuts when they weren't your tax cuts? He
actually said, with a straight face, and I'm quoting to
the very near direct quote from Governor Evers, well I
could have vetoed the budget and I didn't. So the
fact that a budget passed that he didn't veto he

(08:31):
had nothing to do with the tax cuts. He flecked
the tax cuts tooth and nail. He wanted nothing to
do with the Republican tax cuts, but because in the
end politically, he realized that it would be the best
thing for him to be able to run as a
tax cutting governor. Even though he did nothing to cut taxes,
he took credit for the tax cuts. This is what
happened in every single budget that Governor Evers was governor

(08:54):
twenty nineteen to twenty twenty one, twenty twenty one to
twenty twenty three, twenty twenty three to twenty twenty five,
and five to twenty twenty seven. Now, Governor Evers is
actually a tax increasing governor because in that twenty three
to twenty five budget he included his infamous four hundred
year property tax veto, in which he used the partial

(09:17):
Veto authority to change the numbers twenty twenty four dash
twenty twenty five to the year twenty four to twenty
five to allow school districts to increase their revenue caps
by three hundred twenty five dollars per student per year
every single year for the next four hundred years. As

(09:38):
a result, property taxes late last year increased by their
single biggest year over year amount in at least thirty years.
It wasn't since the early nineteen nineties that we saw
a one year property tax shock the likes of which
we saw because of Governor evers four hundred year veto
in the last year. Coming up is in about fifteen

(10:01):
minutes or so on the Dan O'Donnell Show, we will
dive into Governor Evers' claims that no, no, no, his
four hundred year veto had nothing to do with this
massive property tax increase. But for now, the big question
on the table is whether Evers would accept an offer
from legislative leaders Devin Lemahue in the Senate and Robin

(10:21):
Voss in the State Assembly of massive property tax relief
combined with income tax relief in the form of rebate
checks to individual taxpayers of five hundred dollars and joint
filers one thousand dollars for a married couple filing jointly
that Senate Majority Leader Devin lemahu proposed late last week.

(10:43):
That was combined with a property tax relief proposal that
Assembly Speaker Robin Voss proposed independently, and it was passed
over to Governor Evers shortly before his State of the
State address. Well, today, he was asked about this by
Upfront host Matt Smith at the Capitol. They were in
the Capitol rotunda and Smith actually asked specifically about whether

(11:07):
or not Governor Evers supported the idea of giving tax
rebate checks directly back to income tax payers.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
This brought idea of rebate checks. Do do you support
that which one rebate checks? No, that's just that's just
a joke. I mean, that's a way for them to
It's it's like buying buying votes.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
It's like buying votes in an election. Here. It's a joke,
says Tony Evers. Someone should tell Tony Evers in twenty
twenty two that that's a joke in buying votes, because
that is literally exactly what he proposed. Channel three in
Madison is an extra one hundred and fifty dollars sound
if you live in Wisconsin, you could be getting a

(11:50):
refund check. And that's what Governor Evers wants to do
using surplus money in the state. Really, because now it
seems that legislative leaders want to use surplus money in
the state to give rebate checks to income tax payers. Now,
all of a sudden it's just like buying votes. What
did Governor Evers say back then? Now, you might remember,

(12:13):
for those of you who have been following Wisconsin politics
for quite some time, in twenty twenty two, Democrats were
all for these rebate checks. Now, in twenty eighteen, Governor
Evers or excuse me, Governor Walker did the exact same
thing and actually got it passed a childcare tax credit
one hundred dollars per child, you might recall, went out

(12:37):
and Evers and the Democrats WoT that one tooth and
nail as an election year. Stunt Well Evers in twenty
twenty two, when he was running for reelection, said no,
it's it's very different from what Scott Walker was doing.
Because Scott Walker was doing this to try to gin
up support in an election year. This ebers direct quote,

(13:01):
this is born out of COVID. This is money that
we're giving to people because of COVID. What he meant,
of course, was this is money that we're giving to
people because it's federal tax dollars that flowed into this
state from the Biden stimulus.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
A surplus that we have was born during a pandemic.
Ah and Scott Walker did not have a pandemic back then.
I'm not looking for This is not a re election
thing for me. This is giving the people. You know,
it's a significant number.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
It's so significant, you see, it's totally different. There was
a pandemic back then, and now there's there's no pandemic.
So once again, rebate checks and giving money directly back
to taxpayers is bad. It's good when Evers and the
Democrats do it, but when Republicans do it, then it's

(13:54):
buying votes, and then it's bad. Well, this morning it
is little impromptu interview with me at Smith. Evers tried
to justify why it is that rebate checks are again bad.
And I picked up on something that I noticed while
watching the State of the State address very prominently last night,
and that was Ever's just complete inability to get through

(14:17):
any other sentence. It seemed like every three or four
sentences he was tripping on his words, and he was
just not able to get out his idea in a
concise or coherent manner. Look, I understand this in large measure.
I do I speak extemporaneously for three hours a day.
I trip over my words. I tend to talk at

(14:39):
a pretty fast rate. But Governor Evers was reading off
of a teleprompter, and then this morning when he was
trying to give an ex temporaneous answer, he well failed miserably.
See if you can pick up what I noticed right away.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Sending checks out. First of all, after one after a one,
people forget about it. But the second and all, it
costs money to do that, and second of all, the
why don't we do something that's more permanent.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Second of all, it costs money to do that, And
second of all, why don't we do something that's more permanent?
You know who? He instantly reminded me of Buzz from
the movie Home Alone, where he goes, here's why I'm
not worried A two and three. It was like a
we live in the most boring neighborhood and nothing will

(15:32):
ever happen. So Governor Evers of course, used his State
of the State address to absolve himself of blame for
property taxes spiking to their highest level pretty much ever.
And the biggest problem for Democrats is that people noticed,
in fact, with those property tax checks went out, those

(15:54):
bills went out in the mail in December, people were
posting them online and say, how is this possible? How
did bill go up by one thousand dollars? How did
it go up this much? And people were putting two
and two together, Well, we couldn't have that. People understanding
that when you allow school districts to increase the property
tax levee by three hundred and twenty five dollars per

(16:15):
student per year without ever having to go to referendum,
that that's a big reason that property taxes have gone up.
So Governor Rivers, of course used his State of the
State address to try to say it wasn't me, it
was those dastardly Republicans. We will debunk that when the
Dan O'Donnell show returns quick question, what do you think

(16:35):
will happen if you allow a taxing authority without having
to go to referendum to just sort of increase a
property tax levy. Chances are they're going to increase the
property tax levy. Well that's exactly what Governor Rivers four
hundred year of veto did, and that's exactly why property
taxes across Wisconsin skyrocketed by an estimated five percent state wide,

(17:01):
as high as eleven point three percent in Milwaukee County
seven point eight percent in Washington County. You had about
six percent in Dane County increases, leading to sticker shock
every single time someone would go to the mailbox and
open up their property tax bill in December, it was
an unwelcome lump of coal in their Christmas stocking. And

(17:23):
when people finally put two and two together that it
was Governor Evers four hundred year veto. Because the property
tax levee is primarily a function of the school tax levee,
that is the major portion of a property tax bill
that gets levied on individual property owners, people were saying, hey,

(17:44):
wait a second, why did the governor do this disastrous
partial veto. So Governor Evers, of course, last night, during
his final State of the State address, had to try
desperately to debunk this and say, folks, no, no, no,
it wasn't my four hundred year veto. Though the first
year of my four hundred year veto was in effact,
all of a sudden, property taxes rise by the biggest

(18:06):
level one year over one year in more than thirty years.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
Decade of Republicans consistently failing to meaningful invest, meaningful to
invest in our kids and our k through twelve schools.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
By the way, this is what I'm talking about. The
man could barely get through a sentence.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Consequences Wisconsinights, Wisconsin iightes have been going to referendum in
high numbers and years raising their own property taxes just
to keep the school lights on. It started long before
I became governor. I get Republicans want to blame my
four hundred year veto for property taxes going up?

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Why?

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Of course it's politics.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
Of course, Republicans running under fair maps need someone else
to blame for failing to fund our schools at the
levels I've asked them for about two techades of my life.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Now, if that was it all difficult to follow, Because
of course it was difficult to follow. The man could
barely spit out. What he was going to say is
now that Republicans in the state legislature has to run
under his gerrymandered People's Commission maps, They're going to have
to play politics with respect to school funding and with

(19:18):
respect to the four hundred year veto. By the way,
Governor Rivers did reject the proposal from legislative leaders to
give property tax relief from the roughly two point five
billion dollar budget structural structural surplus that the budget is
going to run when it ends in June of twenty
twenty seven, because we didn't dump another four hundred and

(19:39):
fifty million dollars into K twelve education. Now, to hear
Governor Evers telling you would think that our schools were
dramatically underfunded. What if I was to tell you that
the per pupil funding rate from the State of Wisconsin
from general purpose revenue is now seventeen thousand, four hundred

(19:59):
dollar dollars. We spend seventeen thousand, four hundred dollars on
average per student per year to educate that student, adjusted
for inflation. That is the most Wisconsin has ever spent
on K twelve education, even though over the past twenty
five years, the total K twelve student population has declined

(20:21):
by sixty five thousand. The total teacher population has simultaneously
declined by about two to three thousand. So where is
all of this money going? Well, as our good friends
at Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce found in their newly released
Competitiveness Report, in the same time that Wisconsin has lost

(20:42):
two to three thousand teachers and sixty five thousand students,
it has somehow added eight thousand non teaching administrative positions
in K twelve schools. In other words, the dramatic increase
in K twelve education spending that we've seen over the
past twenty five five years has not gone towards students.

(21:02):
It has not gone towards teachers. It has gone entirely
to funding a new army of assistant principles, curriculum specialists,
and most importantly, central office bureaucrats who do nothing except
push paper around and collect government taxpayer checks. In fact,

(21:23):
the way we fund schools is rather nauseating in this
state because during that time that we dramatically increased funding
to the tune of seventeen thousand, four hundred dollars per student,
would you believe we were spending about six to seven
thousand dollars at the dawn of this millennium. In the
year two thousand, we're spending six to seven thousand, even

(21:43):
adjusted for inflation. We are spending much much more than
we were back then. And what sort of results are
we getting? Thirty three percent of students, that's it, our
reading at grade level, roughly the same are doing math
at grade level across the state of Wisconsin. Wisconsin is now,

(22:04):
according to the latest national testing, the single worst state
in the United States. We are fifty out of fifty
at educating African American students. That is a disgrace. This
is a state that always prided itself on education, from
our incredibly UW system to the great private universities that
we have Marquette and Saint Norbert. It is fantastic schools here,

(22:30):
to the K twelve education system, which was long considered
one of the gold standards in this country. We are
now the worst in the country. If you are a
black student. It's Black History Month right now. If you
are a black student, you are statistically getting the worst
K twelve education in the United States. But yet Governor

(22:51):
Evers thinks we're not spending enough, not spending enough on
what do we need another eight, ten, twenty thousand educational bureaucrats.
Never forget that Governor Evers at his heart, is an
education bureaucrat. It's all he knows. It's how he got
into politics in the first place. And he also knows
that you don't care about Wisconsin's school children. Is a

(23:14):
convenient political cudgel to use against Republicans who have actually
done their level best to try to fund K twelve
schools as much as humanly possible, much more than any
other legislature in the history of this state. But of
course that's not enough, because Tony Evers wants to give
even more taxpayer money to his teachers' union buddies, who

(23:35):
aren't spending that money on equality education for our children,
but are instead spending it on themselves. What are some
of the things that are going on in Wisconsin's K
twelve public schools. Let's go to a middle school in
Madison which is hosting today a racially segregated brunch for

(23:56):
our history month. You think I'm kidding. Racially segregated brunch.
It is a Dan o'donald Show exclusive, and it is
coming up next in just a couple of minutes. You're
not gonna want to miss this story. We'll be right back.
Classical conservatism contemporary style. It is the Dan o'donald Show.

(24:16):
Welcome back to it. My favorite, Tony Evers has got
to be tough talking' Tony Evers, who uses like weird
old man tough guy sayings when he wants to challenge
legislative Republicans. For example, he said during last night's budget
or excuse me, his state of the state address regarding
the state budget and regarding property taxes and the four

(24:39):
hundred year veto and school funding. He said he would
go ten toes with any legislator on school funding.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
I'll go ten toes with any lawmaker about school funding.
My four hundred year veto isn't an automatic property tax
in chrised, folks, because that this isn't how school funding
works in Wisconsin. The legislature has rejected over seven billion
dollars for K through twelve schools that I requested over the.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
Last four state budgets.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
If lawmakers want to have an honest conversation about property taxes, start.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
There, all right, I will. I am perfectly willing to
speak for the state legislature. As the most popular conservative
talk show host in this state, most listened to, most
trusted by Republicans in power, and really across the state,

(25:38):
I will go ten toes with the governor. And that's
why I am inviting him on this show anytime, any
place to debate school funding. I would love to talk
about it. Love love, love, love love. Very Obviously, his
people know how to get into contact with me. Britt

(25:59):
cut it Back, who is his chief flunky in media relations.
She absolutely knows who I am and knows how to
get a hold of me. Do so let's go ten toes.
I guess ten being ten toes down means something to

(26:21):
the effect of being all in. As I understand it,
he'll go ten toes with I think he means he'll
go toe to toe with any legislative leader, because what
he was talking about is challenging them on that. Now
to an exclusive story here on the Dan O'Donnell Show,

(26:45):
Blackhawk Middle School in Madison, Wisconsin openly violating not just
the Fourteenth Amendment and Civil Rights Act, but literally decades
of Supreme Court precedent and Madison's own municipal code by
offering free brunch and games today to only black students
and staff members. It was called the Feeding Our Soul Brunch,

(27:11):
and it took place from eleven forty five to twelve
forty five in Blackhawk Room one, p. Fifty one. According
to an email that went home to parents, quote, the
brunch is open to all staff and students who self
identify as Black or African American. Feeding our Soul is
exactly what it sounds like. A moment to slow down, breathe, eat, well, laugh,

(27:36):
together and feel seen. We want black students and staff
to experience school as a place where their presence is
celebrated and where community is built intentionally. Food and activities
Chick fil A will be catered Chick fil A with
drinks including We will also have additional brunch food cooked

(27:56):
by our very own black student Union staff. During the brunch,
staff will lead a fun and engaging cahoot game featuring
Black history facts, moments, and figures. It will be uplifting, interactive,
and full of pride. Okay, um, My daughter is about
the biggest Chick fil A fan in the known world.

(28:20):
Whenever we ask her, Grace, where do you want to
go to dinner? She says Chick fil A. She always
wants Chick fil A. So I know a little something
about chick fil A. What is chick fil A's most
popular food? Fried chicken, isn't it? There is a longstanding

(28:43):
racial stereotype about black people and fried chicken. So all
of these anti racists at Blackhawk Middle School in Madison,
all of the good white liberals, set up a black
only event and said to themselves, what would they want?

(29:06):
Let's give them all some fried chicken ladies and gentlemen,
when I say, you will not find a more racist
human being than a woke white liberal. This exactly, this
is what I'm talking about now. An hour long Chick

(29:26):
fil A lunch and free Cahoot games. Sounds like a
pretty fun time, but only black students and teachers are welcome. Huh.
It's clear violation of federal law Title six of the
Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four, you know, the
one that pretty much every student is learning about during

(29:49):
Black History Month. It's unmistakably clear no person in the
United States shall, on the ground of race, color, or
national origin, be excluded from part, anticipation in, be denied
the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any
program or activity receiving federal financial assistance. Because white, Hispanic

(30:15):
and Asian students are explicitly not allowed to participate in
this brunch, which is very clearly a tangible benefit to
those who attend. Not only do you get to get
out of class for an hour, but you also get
Chick fil A. And if these middle schoolers are anything
like my soon to be middle schooler, they love them
some Chick fil A. Who doesn't I love Chick fil A?

(30:39):
It is a fantastic, fantastic restaurant. Now do you think
these good liberals at Blackhawk Middle School know that Chick
fil A is a very conservative, very religious company, so
much so that they're not even open on Sundays. But
because these students who don't identify self identify as black

(31:01):
are not invited. Because this is open only two students
of one race, it violates federal law. Not only that,
it violates the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment,
which Title six of the Civil Rights Act is based on.
Not only that, as pointed out to me by Dan Lennington,

(31:22):
fantastic attorney over at the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty,
Madison also explicitly has anti discrimination ordinances, meaning not only
did this violate state law, which also has in the
state constitution. You can't have something that is only open
to one particular race. For example, if Blackhawk Middle School

(31:47):
had a whites only lunch and instead of fried chicken,
it was all mayonnaise sandwiches for the whites, that would
obviously be seen as very discriminatory. It wouldn't even be
a close call. This would be a violation of the
Fourteenth Amendment. It would be a violation of federal off
state lawne of municipal ordinance. But why is it that

(32:08):
we still, in the year of Our Lord twenty twenty six,
think that something that is a benefit only two students
of a particular race, or only two people of a
particular race, is somehow any different or any less unlawful
or unconstitutional than something that is available only two whites.

(32:28):
In fact, speaking of Dan Lennington and the Wisconsin Institute
for Law and Liberty, a major victory by will over
the Department of Education, the Trump Doe has relented on
a significant race based standard. We will get into that
with former Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker coming up in the
five o'clock hour. Coming up in just a couple of minutes,

(32:51):
we name the unhinged Liberal of the day. You're not
gonna want to miss it. Stay tuned. Dan O'Donnell's show
back before.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
You know it.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Tomorrow is the final day of the legislative session here
in Wisconsin for the entire year. Yes, it will be
February nineteenth, but typically an election years, there is not
a whole lot of legislative work that is done. It's
largely because of the way that policy is done here
in Wisconsin because the budget cycle, which is an odd

(33:23):
year when the legislature will work on the upcoming biennial budget,
there is so much policy that is put into that
even numbered years can be largely spent in district campaigning,
doing constituent work, that sort of thing. So there is
a reason, trust me, folks, I would much rather have
them not able to write ridiculous laws we have here

(33:47):
on the Dan O'Donnell show, spent a whole lot of
time going through all of the insane bills that Democrats
have been proposing this legislative session, and that would absolutely
become law if they retake control of the Assembly, the Senate,
and the Governor's Mansion. Maintain control of the Governor's mansion
this coming November, so I have no problem with just

(34:10):
a couple of weeks of a year being dedicated to
legislative work. This is the libertarian in me, I suppose.
But tomorrow is the final day of the legislative session
for the year. Why is it that there appears to
be an attempt to sneak back onto the floor via
a voice vote a controversial bill regulating online sports gambling

(34:33):
in this state. I have learned some exclusive new information
that we will share with you right after the top
of the hour. Right now, though, it is time to
name the unhinged liberal of the.

Speaker 7 (34:49):
Oh you want.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Is dangerous because he's evil.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
America.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Oh, Today's unhinged liberal of the day serves as an
object lesson in you get what it is you vote for, or,
more accurately stated, you get the politicians that you deserve.
It is New York City Mayor Zoran mom Dottie. Remember
how he was promising that he was going to tax
the rich and there was going to be class warfare

(35:22):
utopia in New York City. Everyone was going to live
happily ever after because the rich were going to be
soaked and everybody else was going to just bask in
the warmth of collectivism. It wasn't going to be the
the coldness and the rigidity of rugged individualism, but the
warmth of collectivism. Well, it turns out that collectivism takes

(35:45):
a whole lot more money to keep New York State
Governor Kathy Hokeel, also very liberal, a very progressive Democrat,
is not allowing poor Zorn to simply tax the rich,
and that means he had to, unfortunately say yeah, we're
gonna have to massively spike property tax race.

Speaker 7 (36:05):
At the heart of this path is a property tax increase.
This would effectively be a tax on working in middle
class New Yorkers who have a median income of one
hundred and twenty two thousand dollars. The second path also
requires us to raid our reserves. It would mean with
drawing nine hundred and eighty million dollars from our city's
Rainy Day Fund in fiscal year twenty twenty six and

(36:26):
two hundred and twenty nine million dollars from the Retiree
Health Benefit Trust in fiscal.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Year twenty twenty seven. Folks, this sound familiar at all,
this sort of thing absolutely barely, with Milwaukee barely escaped
bankruptcy from doing the exact same thing. And wouldn't you
know it, we also have here in the state of Wisconsin,
a massive hike in property taxes to cover up for

(36:52):
fiscal mismanagement from the governor's office. Zoran, Mom, Dannie, your
unhinged libro of the day, just how big is New
York City's budget one hundred and fifteen point nine billion dollars.
To put that into some sort of context for you,

(37:15):
Florida's budget is one hundred and seventeen point four billion dollars.
The entire state of Florida. Florida has three times more
people than does just New York City, but yet the
difference in spending is about one point three percent. New

(37:37):
York City spends a staggering amount of money, and Momdannie
wants to spend even more than ever before. How's he
going to pay for it? Well by taxing middle class
New Yorkers. Congratulations, lefties, you got what you wanted. Could
Republicans in the state legislature be preparing to unleash a

(37:58):
voice vote on one of the most controversial pieces of
legislation this session during the last day of this session tomorrow?
This is what I am hearing, and apparently I am
not the only one. But in a Dan o'donald's show exclusive,
we are going to break down efforts to get an

(38:20):
online sports betting bill passed by violating the so called
Senate rule of seventeen and giving members in the State
Assembly cover by trying to go to a voice vote.
We will break down what it all means and why
it is a singularly bad idea. Coming up in just
a second here on the Dan o'donald Show. But first,

(38:41):
it is time now to take a look at what's
going on in Donald Trump's Washington. It's the daily Trump Day.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
We're gonna win so much, you may even get tired
of winning.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Trump just keeps waiting. It is a win for the administration.

Speaker 8 (38:54):
It's also a big win for the United States.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
We have to keep winning.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
We have to win the bok We're gonna win more.
The president today, attending a Black History Month event at
the White House, well.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Thank God for the strength and courage and grit and
devotion of Black Americans who have helped make America the
most powerful country in the history of the world.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
HUD Secretary Scott Turner among the speakers at today's event.

Speaker 9 (39:19):
I just want to say to everyone that's here, you know,
as we celebrate this special day in not only Black history,
but American history. This year that we've been here, you know,
under President Trump, the Lord has been so gracious to us,
and he's been faithful, and the President has been a
tremendous leader.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Earlier today, White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavin announced that
President Trump will meet tomorrow with his new Board of Peace.

Speaker 10 (39:44):
Tomorrow President Trump will host a Board of Peace meeting
at the Donald J. Trump Institute of Peace, where he
will announce that member States have pledged more than five
billion dollars towards the Gaza humanitarian and reconstruction efforts, and
have also commit thousands of personnel to the International Stabilization
Force and local police to maintain security and peace.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
For gossens Levitt focused today's White House press briefing primarily
on good news about the nation's economy, discussing jobs numbers,
wage increases, and decreases in housing costs.

Speaker 10 (40:18):
A key part of the American dream is buying a home,
and that is finally becoming more affordable under this president.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
This past week, it was announced.

Speaker 10 (40:27):
The annual mortgage cost for a new home has fallen
by four thousand dollars so far under President Trump after
rising by roughly fifteen thousand dollars under Joe Biden. As
a result, mortgage affordability has reached a four year best
following recent bold action by the President to make home
ownership more attainable for American families, not large Wall Street

(40:51):
corporate institutional investors. At the same time, national media and
rates rents have fallen to a four year low, have
declined for six consecutive months now.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
The highlight of today's briefing was easily Caroline Levitt taking
quite possibly the dumbest question is the history of White
House press briefings. It came from Ed O'Keefe of CBS
News yesterday.

Speaker 11 (41:17):
In his statement about Jesse Jackson, the President said, despite
the fact that I'm falsely and consistently called a racist
by the scoundrels and lunatics and the radical left Democrats, all,
it was always my pleasure to help.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Jesse along the way.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Where or when.

Speaker 11 (41:31):
Does the president believe he's been falsely called racist?

Speaker 10 (41:35):
You're kidding, right, I will pull you plethora of examples.
I'm going to get my team in that room to
start going through the internet of radical Democrats throughout the years,
Ed who have accused this president falsely of being a racist.
And I'm sure there's many people in this room and
on network television across the country who have accused him
of the same. In fact, I know that because I've

(41:57):
seen it with my own eyes.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
And she did indeed get her team to immediately pull
examples of members of the press and radical Democrats calling
Donald Trump a racist, Like, Hey, this guy's been in
the news for a while now. Don Lemmon, this is
Samin tonight. I'm Don Lemon. The President of the United
States is racist. I love how that was the lead story.

(42:21):
I'm Don Lemon, this is CNN. Trump's a racist? Or
how about this from AOC Trump is.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Also very old and a racist and a neo Nazi.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, but nobody has ever falsely accused Trump of being
a racist, says head O'Keefe. Ladies and gentlemen, that is
your daily Trump date the day in Donald Trump's Washington
here on the Dan o'donald Show. If you would like
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(43:38):
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In fact, I'm in preliminary talks with the powers that
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(43:59):
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(44:23):
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promotions to get some d D merch. Stay tuned for that.

(44:48):
Also a reminder now that the primaries are over with.
The spring primary was last night. There was a grand
total of one race in danekun It was a Dane
County Circuit Court judge race you had. In Milwaukee County
there was one. I believe there was Muskego Aldermen a

(45:08):
good friend of the show, deb Schroder, of course, or
is it Schrader. I can never remember, Sorry Debbie, but
she won overwhelmingly in that race in Muskego, and she
moves on. There was a couple of others. I think
there was one in Washington County, A tiny handful. I mean,
almost nobody had a primary last night. The general election

(45:30):
is April seventh, and again we need your help. We
are putting together the States Ultimate Conservative Voter Guide for
every single county, all seventy two of them Milwaukee to Menominee,
and we are looking for your help. If you are
a candidate, if you are plugged into your county Republican party,
if you know something about politics in your party, and

(45:52):
you know who the Conservatives are share those names with us. Obviously,
we have got a team of people here doing some
vetting and we are going to try to get the
ultimate list. This is something that I have been asked
for forever. I'm actually kind of surprised that nobody has
tried to do something like this before. Heaven knows, the
Libs do this every single spring election. Look, it's difficult.

(46:15):
It's super easy to put together a voter guide. When
everybody has got R or D next to their name
on the ballot, you can tell, just under no circumstances,
vote for anybody with the D by their name. But
these nonpartisan races, I am convinced, oftentimes see depressed turnout
because quite simply, people don't know who they want to

(46:38):
vote for, who it is that aligns with their values,
and the last thing they want to do is to
pull the lever for the unhinged radical lib so they
stay home, or maybe they don't realize that there are
races on the ballot save for the ones that generate
all the headlines, usually the State Supreme Court. That's generally

(46:58):
the biggest nonpartisan race that we have here in this state.
And yes, there is a state Supreme court race on
the ballot this spring, Conservative Maria Lazar goes against far
left transactivist radical Chris Taylor. We exposed her truly insane
bills in the twenty nineteen legislative session when she was
a member of the Wisconsin Assembly. She actually proposed a bill.

(47:21):
She authored a bill mandating that there be tampons in
every boy's bathroom in every school in Wisconsin. Boys bathroom boys.
She also wanted to replace the word mother with the
word parent who gave birth in all state statutes, so

(47:43):
there would be no mother, there would be no reference
to mothers in state statutes. She also wanted to introduce
a trans basically a trans team, a trans I don't
even remember what it was called, a Blue Ribbon Commission
for Rights that would be able to take revenue and
would be able to take resources from literally any department

(48:06):
of state government that it wanted. We actually have a
video segment of the show up at Dan O'donnald's show
on Exit Facebook. Another Dan O'donnald's show exclusive. I have
learned that there is a behind the scenes effort in
the state Assembly to get a bill that would essentially
turn all online sports gambling over to the Forest County

(48:29):
Pottawatamie Tribe by forcing companies like Draft Kings and fan Duel,
who want to go into business and do online sports
betting here in Wisconsin, to actually have their servers at
the Sports Book of Pottawatamie Hotel and Casino in downtown Milwaukee.
I have learned that there is at least a feeler

(48:52):
that has been put out there about the possibility of
this going to the floor of the State Assembly tomorrow
on the last day of the session on a voice vote.
As you can imagine, this is remarkably controversial. First of all,
it's not even clear whether this is constitutional. The Wisconsin
Institute for Law on Liberty has argued that it most

(49:12):
certainly is not that any sort of change to what
is and is not allowed in terms of state gaming
compacts or new forms of gambling as online sports gaming.
Most certainly is that that needs to be done via
constitutional amendment, not simply a bill that's introduced. Well, when
this was first introduced, we got wind of it here

(49:34):
on the Dan O'Donnell show, and frankly I thought it
was a bad idea, just as we vehemently opposed Roefer
or right of first refusal for electrical transmission companies, which
would effectively have allowed the in state transmission companies to
form a cartel. I said this was going to be

(49:54):
a cartel for sports gambling, that only Native tribes that
currently have casinos and currently have sports books would would
be allowed to partner with out of state companies to
come in and do sports gambling. Well, it turns out
that the only beneficiary of this is going to be
the Forest County pot and Watamie, So it's not technically

(50:15):
a cartel. It's just a good old fashioned monopoly. I
still believe this is a fundamentally bad idea. If Draft
Kings and fan Duel are going to be operating in Wisconsin,
FanDuel and Draft Kings could simply pay the state of Wisconsin.
Not only that these are massive companies, and the argument

(50:39):
that I have heard is well if because of the
gaming compacts.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Now.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
You might remember, way back when Diamond Jim Doyle, the
Democrat governor, was first inaugurated in the winter of twenty three,
one of the very first things he did is on
April first, April Fool's Day, under cover of darkness, ragmatically
alter the state's gaming compacts, and he actually made them permanent,

(51:04):
so the deals that he signed unilaterally without any input
from the state legislature would be in effect in perpetuity. Well,
the state Supreme Court shut this down, of course, but then,
as liberals are wont to do, they get him a
majority in the Supreme Court and the case goes right
back to them and they say, miraculously, hey, we were
wrong last time for reasons, and now you can absolutely

(51:30):
just unilaterally and perpetually change the state's voter compact. Diamond
Jim Doyle, congratulations on this newfound power. Because of that,
the argument is, if we were as a state to
allow Draft Kings or fan Duel or any online sports
betting company into the state, we would have to pay
a massive penalty to Patuarami or to any of the

(51:54):
other tribes because it would be a violation of the
gaming compact that only they are allowed to do sports betting.
Well don't you think fan Duel or DraftKings would want
to pay that and see that as a small price
to pay for bringing their operations to a state of

(52:16):
five point eight million people five point eight million potential customers.
Of course they would pay it. It's not even a
question of whether they would pay it. Now, why is
it that we would somehow need the Forest County Pataguadamie
at all. It comes from the so called hub and
spoke model of online gambling thanks to a federal court
decision involving the Seminole tribe down in Florida. What that

(52:40):
court ruled is that online sports betting would be permitted
if the physical server that handles all the bets is
actually placed in a sports book on a native casino.
That's the hub, and all of the phones or iPads
or computers that connect to it and actually do the

(53:01):
online sports gambling, those are the spokes. We would essentially
have a hub and spoke model here in Wisconsin, and
the hub would be at Potawatam Hotel and casino sportsbook, which,
by the way, is a pretty awesome sports book. And
I don't want to get this misconstrued that somehow I'm
picking on the Potawatomie or somehow I'm picking on the
Native tribes. I actually think over the course of the

(53:26):
past few decades they've been incredible corporate citizens. I really
do believe that. I just do not believe that the
state of Wisconsin should be a expanding gambling and online sports. Gambling, folks,
is much much different than every other kind of gambling,
simply because you can always do it. You don't need

(53:48):
to go down to the casino to play a hand blackjack.
You can simply bet on the bucks game from your phone. Moreover,
you don't just bet on the over under. You don't
just bet on the money line. You don't just bet
on the points spread. You can actually bet on whether
Giannis is out, Bobby Portis is going to have more

(54:10):
or less than ten points. There are about a million
different bets that you can make. This makes it incredibly
addictive and incredibly dangerous. Now, I'm not going to even
take a moral stand on whether or not we should
be expanding gambling. I happen to think that we probably
should not, because problem gambling is a big, big problem,

(54:32):
And the easiest way to get someone who has a
problem with gambling not to be able to gamble anymore
is to take away the ability for them to gamble
and potawatomy the Oneida ho chunk. If someone clearly has
a problem with gambling, in fact, they can be banned,
and they can self ban themselves from casinos. I actually
know somebody who had a gambling problem, lost a significant

(54:55):
amount of money and actually went to a casino and said, look,
do not under any final had enough. He finally had
a moment of lucidity and he said, look, do not
allow me in, ban me, take my picture and put
me on the band list, and if I ever try
to come back, you throw me out on my rear end.
It worked. What happens if you can just go to

(55:17):
your phone and gamble, folks, It's the same thing I
have been inundated with people talking about. First of all,
I think this started. I got on the algo of
I'm just I've I've been fascinated by the marijuana debate
and all of the science that has come out about
hardcore and long term marijuana use and it's ties to schizophrenia.

(55:40):
One of the big reasons I think that we are
seeing unprecedented levels of mental illness, especially violent bouts of
schizophrenia and other dissociative disorders, is because we're seeing huge
increases in the number of young people who are using
marijuana all the time. It's just much much easier to
get there's much easier access to it, and as a result,

(56:01):
people are abusing it. Well, I'm on that algo, and
now I'm seeing the same basic argument being made about
internet porn and how online pornography is damaging relationships, damaging marriages,
because it's just it's destroying intimacy. And what's the big
reason that online pornography has just exploded in the last
fifteen years. It's because, well, obviously you have access to

(56:23):
online pornography every single time, every single time you go
into your pocket. No, not for that reason, you perves,
I mean to go in your pocket to go and
look at your phone. It's just always there. It is
an ever present temptation. Well, it's the exact same thing
with online sports gambling. And this is just a fundamentally
bad idea morally, But even independent of the moral argument,

(56:47):
constitutionally it does not make a whole lot of sense.
And I think we would be opening ourselves up to
huge lawsuits from a business sense, given the fact that
the compacts that were signed by Diamond Jim Doyle all
those decades ago are just fundamentally bad for the state
of Wisconsin that we're not nearly getting as much in
tax revenue as we might otherwise get. What's to say

(57:09):
that just allowing DraftKings and FanDuel into Wisconsin wouldn't get
us much more in tax revenue, even after paying a
penalty to the Native tribes for a supposed breach of
the online gaming Compact. But the biggest thing that I
just despise about this whole process, it's about how Republicans

(57:31):
have been acting like Democrats. And yes, Democrats who want
that sweet sweet potauatomy and other Native tribe campaign cash
have all been going along with these bills. Of course
they're going to be yes is, but how Republicans have
acted like Democrats. They don't want to answer for the
vote on this So if there is a vote, instead
of making every single member cast an affirmative vote for

(57:55):
it and therefore be subject to scrutiny from the public,
and you'd better believe that I will read the names
of every single Republican who voted for this bill as
soon as they vote for this bill. Well, they don't
want to do that. They don't want to have to
face the consequences. They don't want to have to face
you or your conduit in me, who broadcasts this sort
of information to thousands and thousands of people across the state.

(58:17):
So they want to hide behind a voice vote. It's
the exact same thing they tried to do on write
a first Refusal, knowing full well that that was a
bill just like this online sports betting bill that the
vast majority of Wisconsinites don't want. On top of that,
there is a long standing rule in the Wisconsin Senate.
So the Assembly is just going to go with a
voice vote. You can't really do that in the Senate

(58:38):
because there are only thirty three members, right, So what
the state Senate wants to do, there's a long standing rule.
It's called the rule of seventeen thirty three members. You
need to have if you're in the majority party, seventeen
members a majority of the entire Senate be behind a
bill before it goes to the floor. What I am
hearing from Senate leadership is that they're going to violate

(59:00):
the long standing rule of seventeen. Well, it wasn't really
ever a rule. So what is this Pirates of the
Caribbean or it's like the Pirate's Code isn't really a code,
it's more like guidelines. No, this is how you get
widespread support for your bills. You ensure that the entire
caucus is behind them, or at least a significant percentage

(59:24):
an overwhelming majority of your caucus. What they're going to
do is, apparently, if this thing passes on a voice
vote with remarkable speed tomorrow, on again, the final day
of the legislative session, they're simply going to violate the
rule of seventeen, bring it to a floor vote, know
that they've got every single Democrat with them, and pass
this as quickly as possible, regardless of what you in

(59:48):
the public might think about it. You're listening to the
Dan O'Donnell show, You're gonna have to forgive me, folks.
I am just recovering a little bit. Yes, I am
actually watching the Team USA hockey match right now. Spoiler

(01:00:08):
alert if I mean, are they even are they going
to rebroadcast it tonight? I don't even know. Well, seeing
as NBC only shows curling and figure skating at night
during prime time, probably not spoiler alert if if you
want to watch the game or something like that. It
turned down the radio for like five minutes tops in

(01:00:29):
three to one. Team USA was leading Sweden one nil
heading into the last ninety seconds of the third period.
Sweden pulls their goalie. They get the equalizer. We are
now going to overtime in this quarter final game, and
you know what, I'm gonna switch it back. Switched it

(01:00:50):
after that, here we go. Put it back on Fox
News where Greg Guttfeldt looks like he's on ozepic. I
don't want to be that guy. I love Greg, but
he looks like he has lost like twenty five pounds
in a month. This has been like I watch. My
daily routine is I watch Will Caine at three o'clock

(01:01:13):
and then I watch The Five at four pm Central,
and then Brett Baher. I have Brett Baher. This is
when my own father, my own father says he will
listen to me only until five o'clock Central because then
he has to watch Brett Bayer. Brett loved that. By

(01:01:33):
the way, we follow each other on X and about
a year ago, I just happened to message that with
he said, tell your dad, he's got good taste. And
I forget. I think I forgot to tell my dad
because I'm still so mad at Brett Bher. He's robbing
me of listeners, even in my own family. But okay,

(01:01:55):
we are back. The first overtime period is set to
begin Team US say in Sweden, with the winner moving
on to the semi finals, which would be the metal
round where, boy, you gotta get past this one. Team
USA women, by the way, the gold medal matches tomorrow.
They're playing Canada, and boy, I do not see Team USA.

(01:02:20):
Half of them, by the way, are Wisconsin Badger hockey players,
are former Badger hockey players. And the overtime period is
just underway. It is a ten minute overtime. Oh and
they play four on four. Oh, I didn't know that.
Producer Andrew is sitting in for Eric as our musical

(01:02:41):
chairs Game of Producers keeps going. Yeah, Andrew on loan
to us from the Big nine to twenty or Fox
Sports nine to twenty, our sports station. He has produced
the Dan O'Donnell show before. It's been a while, so
he had a brief training day yesterday, and it's good
to be back in the saddle again. You produced for

(01:03:02):
us when we were on in the mornings. All right,
back to our regularly scheduled program. Unless you would like
me to hear you'd like to hear me call a
hockey match? Can we get like Aaron Simms on the phone?
Oh my god, did did they just oh no, okay, okay,

(01:03:24):
I thought they actually scored a goal there. See I'm
sort of watching oh as a good say by the keeper.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Producer Andrews says, Aaron is one of the best hockey
and oh my gosh, he's incredible. He's he's he absolutely
needs to get an NHL job. I think he's perfectly
happy doing Milwaukee. The Milwaukee Admirals are in the AHL.
That's like a Triple A baseball affiliate of the Nashville Predators,
and they air on our sister station, Fox Sports nine twenty.
He's just he's got a great voice, he's got great energy,

(01:03:52):
and like, you can't you can't turn the radio off
when you hear Aaron. Big big fan of Aaron Simms
here on the Dan o'donald Show. Okay, that's enough about hockey.
Let's get back to our regularly scheduled program. Governor Evers
is calling for a special legislative session in order to
deal with jerrymandering. He says he wants fair maps, and

(01:04:15):
he wants them now, apparently forgetting that all of the
maps Wisconsin is using are his now obviously obviously a
special session to set up a nonpartisan redistricting group that
would instead of the state legislature draw district maps. This

(01:04:39):
wouldn't take place until after the next census in twenty thirty.
Don't you worry, though, Democrats are challenging right now the
maps that Democrats drew as being jerrymandered. There are two
cases currently before the Wisconsin Supreme Court. The Wisconsin Supreme
Court has basically abdicated its duty to two different panels

(01:05:01):
of left wing Circuit court judges incomplete contravention of the
Wisconsin Constitution. But Governor Evers he wants a special legislative
session to get a fair maps commission.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
I know people here disagree sometimes.

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
Sometimes a lot politics could get in the way of
creating a nonpartisan commission that everyone can support. But there's
one thing that we all should be able to do
to agree on, which is that politics should stay out
of the redistricting from start to finish. So tonight I'm

(01:05:46):
announcing that I'll be calling a special session of the
legislature the spring to take up the constitutional amendment the
ban partisan jerrymandering once and for all in Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Yeah is listen to those clapping seals on the Democrats
side of the Aisle. We want a non partisan Iowa
style redistricting process, right right, This is what Democrats said
they wanted forever during the Scott Walker They wanted us
to be more like Iowich, which uses a nonpartisan redistricting commission. Well,

(01:06:20):
the thing about Democrats, the thing that I think is
a hallmark now of Democrat statements, Democrat policy, Democrat talking points,
pretty much everything having to do with Democrat politics, is
they count on the people who hear their messages or
who are the consumers of their narratives and their talking points,
to either be stupid or to have really really short memories.

(01:06:43):
Because I want to take you back to September of
twenty twenty three when Republicans in the state Assembly actually
introduced a measure that would replace partisan redistricting with using
the Legislative Reference Bureau, a non partisan organization, to draw
new voting maps. The plan was to replace the current

(01:07:07):
system and it would use the Legislative Reference Bureau to
create truly nonpartisan maps in a model similar to that
Iowa has used for some years. Iowa actually prohibits using
partisan data or incumbent addresses in drawing those maps. It
was called Assembly Bill four fifteen. It was introduced in

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September of twenty twenty three and passed a short time later.
It then passed the Wisconsin State Senate in early twenty
twenty four. What do you think happened when it went
to Governor Ever's desk? He vetoed it. That's exactly right.
Why because Democrats were in the process of jerry mandering
the state legislative maps by the Wisconsin Supreme Court. You

(01:07:51):
might remember in early twenty twenty three, Janet Protesscewitz got
herself elected to the Court and Conservatives finally lost control
after fifteen years of ideologically controlling the court. And one
of the big promises that protece What's made was that
the maps are rigged, as she said over and over
and over, and she would be the fourth vote of

(01:08:14):
seven to overturn them. Right before Christmas, I'm talking the
Friday before Christmas, the Supreme Court did just that. They
overturned They struck down the maps that had passed muster
by both the Wisconsin Supreme Court and the United States
Supreme Court, and they replaced them with what they thought

(01:08:35):
were going to be maps drawn by the justices themselves
or a Redistricting Commission that they appointed. Republicans realized in
the legislature that this was going to be the most
radical jerrymander imaginable, so they relented and agreed to the maps,
which were still jerrymandered by Governor Evers draconian, Soviet sounding

(01:08:57):
People's Maps Commission. But we're better than what it was
going to be feared that the state Supreme Court's radical
leftists would draw. So it's Governor Evers maps that are
in effect now. Because Republicans were terrified that the Supreme
Court was going to strike down the legislative maps that
they eventually did. They actually went to Governor Evers and

(01:09:19):
went to Democrats in the Assembly, went to Democrats in
the Senate and said, look, this is what you've always wanted.
You wanted an Iowa style, nonpartisan commission. Let's just turn
the whole thing over to the Legislative Reference Bureau. Evers
vetoed it. Not a single Democrat voted for it, because
what they want is to jerry mander in favor of Democrats.

(01:09:41):
It's what they've always wanted, and it's what they have
done with the current maps. I can actually prove it
and will do So coming up next right here on
the Dan O'Donnell Show, So a couple of big updates
Team Usay, well you know what I think I need
to I need to offer the spoiler alert turned down

(01:10:01):
the radio if you don't want to know what happened
in today's Team USA versus Sweden quarterfinal hockey match three
two one. Team USA scores a winner in overtime to
advance to the semifinals two to one over Sweden. Sweden
had tied it up in the waning seconds of the

(01:10:22):
third period with the United States up one to nothing,
but in just a couple of minutes in overtime. I
did not realize that they skateed four on four in
overtime to try to promote goal scoring. That wait, what
was that? Oh, because they're using a smaller rink. It's
now three on three.

Speaker 12 (01:10:42):
See.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
I can only see it kind of partially through my
camera and lighting and teleprompter and all of that stuff.
We got a ton of camera equipment here, and I
can only sort of see the screen through the corner
of my eye, and I wasn't really able to watch
much of the overtime period. As we were talking about
the nonpartisan legislative redistricting plan that Governor Rivers now wants

(01:11:05):
a special session to call. Republicans actually introduced one in
September of twenty twenty three. The following month, it passed
the Assembly, and then it passed the state Senate in
early twenty twenty four. I was actually reminded by a
legislative source that there were a couple of Democrats in
the Assembly who voted for it, but then Assembly Democratic

(01:11:27):
Leader Greta Nubauer actually sent them home. They were Hispanic Democrats,
and she sent them home in an effort to block
passage of the bill. Some might say she attempted to
deport them from the state Capitol. So I guess I
was right. There were a tiny handful of Democrats who
actually did vote for that, but Governor Rivers vetoed it,

(01:11:48):
and now he's calling for a special session to end
partisan redistricting. Look, I can prove that this entire effort
has been an attempt to jerrymander this state in favor
of Democrats. It's never about fair maps and never was.
When the state Supreme Court overturned the legislative maps that

(01:12:09):
again were given a stamp of approval by the State
Supreme Court when it was under conservative control, and then
the United States Supreme Court declined to overturn those maps
as overly jerrymandered, and the US Supreme Court is actually
held to the sort of rule that jerrymandering claims and

(01:12:29):
redistricting this is an inherently political process, so of course
there are going to be questions of political advantage, and
this is beyond the scope of what courts can answer.
So after a twenty nineteen decision, the United States Supreme
Court has really taken a hands off approach to questions
of partisan jerrymandering. But when the Wisconsin Supreme Court overturned

(01:12:53):
the state legislative maps, they realized that they couldn't possibly
have any sort of federal constitutionutional question that could potentially
be appealed to the US Supreme Court because rather obviously
they would be slapped down and they would be overruled,
and the case would be remanded right back to them.
So they had to figure some state constitutional precept or

(01:13:16):
constitutional rule that would keep the decision out of the
federal court system. What they settled on was the asinine
notion that somehow what are known as municipal islands were
unconstitutional even though municipal islands, which are usually like park
areas that are a part of, say the city of Milwaukee,

(01:13:37):
but not actually in the contiguous boundary of the City
of Milwaukee. A lot of times these are landfills. They're
almost never inhabited, and they have been included in every
legislative and congressional map pretty much for the last seventy
five to one hundred years without any question, and in fact,

(01:14:00):
courts have explicitly declined to strike down maps based on
the issue of municipal islands. But because the Wisconsin Supreme
Court pretended that there was this requirement that there needed
to be contiguous boundaries for the districts. And the reason
for this is if there's not a contiguous boundary, if

(01:14:20):
you really do have districts that don't touch, that is,
if it looks like a Roarshack ink blot test, then yes,
obviously there is an attempt at jerrymandering. But the Wisconsin
Supreme Court couldn't find excessive jerrymandering in the state legislative map,
so instead it drew an instant by adopting Governor Evers

(01:14:43):
People's Commission Map. An instant plus ten Democrat advantage. The
first election that the new maps were used in was
the presidential election of twenty twenty four, where Donald Trump
won a clear majority of was ssconsinites. Democrats still somehow
picked up ten seats in the Wisconsin State Assembly. Oh well,

(01:15:08):
the maps were suddenly fair. Then it was a huge
Republican year, and yet Republicans lost a whole ton of
states now, or excuse me, a whole ton of seats now.
This rather obviously isn't a real criterion for judging whether
a map is partisan or jerrymatterd or something like that.
But this is something that Democrats have been saying for years.

(01:15:29):
Because Democrats are winning fifty percent or more of the
statewide vote, they should have roughly fifty percent or more
of all of the state legislative seats. Well, that's not
how it works, especially when Democrats refuse to live anywhere
in this state outside of Madison or Milwaukee. They essentially
self segregate. They pack themselves into two districts. And when

(01:15:53):
you have got to draw districts that include here's the requirement.
Each state Senate district needs to include three state legislative districts.
We have thirty three state Senate seats, ninety nine state
Assembly seats, and you need to do this in as
contiguous and as geographically neutral way as you possibly can.

(01:16:18):
If Democrats only exist in two cities, how are you
supposed to do that. When we come back after the
top of the hour news, we talk with former Governor
Scott Walker. Stay tuned Dan o'donald Show, come right back.
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the danocam, and we are a podcast as well. Dan
o'donnald's show with limited almost no commercial interruption. How great
is that? After we just got back from what an
eleven minute commercial break. I apologize I had a lot
to say about claims of jerry mandering. Governor Evers wants
to call into special session the state legislature to pass

(01:17:23):
a non partisan redistricting board that Republicans wanted in twenty
twenty three, and Evers vetoed because he knew the State
Supreme Court was going to jerrymander the state legislative map
for him. We will discuss that and more. Plus a
big win the Department of Education striking down a race

(01:17:45):
based graduate school grant program. We will discuss that with
Scott Walker, the president of Young America's Foundation, former Wisconsin
governor and one heck of a sharp political mind. We
will talk about the midterm elections. We will talk about
the spring election and more. But first, here are some
of the stories that we are following this hour. One
skier is still missing an eight are confirmed dead after

(01:18:10):
an avalanche struck Castle Peak that's near Lake Tahoe, California. Fortunately,
six skiers were pulled off the mountain and rescued amid
blizzard conditions. Democrat lawmakers are going to boycott President Trump's
upcoming State of the Union address. They're going to instead
attend something that they're calling the People's State of the

(01:18:31):
Union rally on the National Mall. Wisconsin's Governor Tony Evers
last night delivered his final State of the State address and,
as could be expected, basically took credit for a whole
lot of Republican tax cuts. The federal government remains partially
shut down. The Department of Homeland Security is unfunded, except,

(01:18:55):
of course, for the things that Democrats don't want funded,
ice and border patrol, which are fully funded through the
end of President Trump's second term thanks to the One
Big Beautiful Bill. During the White House Press briefing, Press
Secretary Caroline Levitt put the blame on Democrats for this
partial show.

Speaker 10 (01:19:11):
Democrats are the reason that the Department of Homeland Security
is currently shut down. They have chosen to act against
the American people for political reasons. And now we have
FEMA workers, the men and women of the United States
Coast Guard, men and women of TSA who keep our
airports moving, who will be working without paychecks for no
good reason other than the Democrats wanting to pick a

(01:19:33):
fight with Donald Trump. And the President thinks that is
irresponsible and despicable.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
It certainly is. The Education Department today has agreed not
to enforce Biden era rules in a federal grant program
aimed at growing the number of underrepresented students obtaining doctoral degrees.
The guidelines for the McNair Post Baccalaureate Education and Achievement Program.

(01:19:59):
It prompted a law lawsuit from the Wisconsin Institute for
Law and Liberty. The group has now dropped after reaching
a written agreement with the Trump administration. A big part
of that action against the Department of Education led by
Young America's Foundation, which is led by a man we
know very well here in Wisconsin. Great friend of the

(01:20:20):
Dan O'Donnell show, Scott Walker, joining us on the program. Sir,
great to have you on Big win today.

Speaker 12 (01:20:27):
Huh, huge win right appropriately in the year that will
sob at the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of a
Declaration of Penance, which begins by reminding us that we're
all created equal, endowed not by the government but by
our creator, by God, with certain unaiable rights. In this case,
it's saying race should have never been a factor in

(01:20:49):
issues in the past. It's not going to be a
factor when it comes to these scholarships or other things
in the federal going forward. And a big, big thank
you to WILL, the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty
for stepping up and being our partner in this particular case.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Yeah, this was a case on which WILL did just
tremendous work, and they remind us just how important it
is to have conservative litigation because things can get done.
No real surprise that the Trump administration understood just how
damaging this is. But it is remarkable that six years

(01:21:26):
after the peak woke era following the death of George
Floyd Scott, that we're still seeing sort of these last
vestiges of race based discrimination under the guise of improving
race relations or affirmative action or DEI or whatever it's
being called this year.

Speaker 12 (01:21:44):
Well, it shows you how political this is too. I mean,
this is one of those where and again big banks
they helped us at Young America's Foundation. One of the
planners was a local chapter. We had two litigants, specifically
two students who would have been an in eligibles program
based solely on their skin color, one of which is
a student involved with US at the University of Wisconsin at Madison.

(01:22:04):
This eliminates that, but it's amazing. Not only was it
discriminate against white students, there were certain who didn't qualify.
Students who were ethnicity would be considered Asian, Jewish, Arab,
I mean even some of Latino students. So this was
really not just about race, but about race based politics.

(01:22:26):
And we knew you and I've talked about this before.
We knew that the Trump administration was on the right
track on this, and I remember some people said, well,
why are you continding this now, even with a new president,
new administration. Well, we needed to give them the levers
to go deep within the administrative state, to go right
into the core of these issues, not just an executive word,

(01:22:47):
but to really force it where the lower levels of
government were not following through. So this goes all the
ways to scholarships and the Department of Education, because we
want to make sure that this is cleared up everywhere.
And by putting it in through at court action, now
they've agreed in court, not just in the administrative area,
but in court, this should help us lock us in

(01:23:08):
long into the future, long after Donald Trump's press the
United States.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
And another reason is sometimes these departments don't know about it,
Like it's entirely possible that Linda McMahon, the Secretary of
Education before this suit was filed, had no idea the
extent of what was going on with this McNair program.
Scott Walker, the head of YAFF Young America's Foundation, joining
us here on the Dan O'Donnell show. Of course, he

(01:23:34):
was for eight years the governor of Wisconsin. Last night,
Sir Governor Evers delivered his eighth and final State of
the State address, in which he took credit for Republican
tax cuts based on your budgets. By the way, I
don't think people quite remember this. Every single budget that
has been passed over the past eight years was not

(01:23:56):
a Tony Evers budget, but was rather based on a
Scott Walker budget. Some legacy you've left.

Speaker 12 (01:24:02):
Huh, Well, we love it. It's great for the tax periers.
In fact, since twenty eleven, I think we've seen over
thirty billion dollars worth of tax relief. Obviously, the eight
years I was in, along with my friends and the
Republican majorities in the legislature, we saw income taxes and
property taxes actually lower after eight years than when we started. Thankfully,

(01:24:24):
Republicans have continued to push in the state legislatures. Why
keeping the State Senate, keeping the State Assembly so critically important.
The one thing not Tony Evers should take credit for
what he won't is something where he the only way
he was getting around working against this strong Republican majority
was when he used his very targeted view authority in

(01:24:45):
a way that no one ever dreamed possible to create
a four hundred year increase in property taxes. And of
course in my old stopping grounds in Wawaitosa, they're seeing
property taxes go through the roof Milwaukee Bloyd all across
the state. That's the one and only thing that Tony
Evers could take credit for. He didn't do that last night,
but people shouldn't forget when they vote next November or

(01:25:07):
this coming November.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Are you just sort of kicking yourself? You know, all
these years later you realize you could have just used
your partial veto authority to you know, enshrine Act ten
for the next like four centuries. You could have voter
id for the next thousand years. I mean, you could
have had you could have had a kingdom without end
Governor Walker if you had just done what Tony Evers did.

(01:25:30):
Were you surprised when that was actually upheld as constitutional?

Speaker 12 (01:25:36):
Well, it's just an absolute joke. If Tommy Tampster and
I had tried something like this. You know, in the
past there were tweaks to the line out of Vito.
This was completely absurd, but it's opened the window. You know,
Tom Tiffany, with a lot of help and support from
you and I and a lot of our listeners, is
a big governor. There's no reason why he couldn't turn
around and say I'm going to cut property deck just

(01:25:56):
for four hundred years. That's why I think a lot
of people would love you should say, well, not four hundred,
at least the next four years, given the chance. But
this is exactly what what radicals do when they get in.
They search for power. It's not about policy, it's not
about putting people first. It's about power structures. And that
was a payoff to some of the big government unions

(01:26:17):
who wanted more money instead of actually thinking about the
hard working taxpayers.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Yeah, without question, that's exactly what it was. You know,
we sort of touched on Act ten for a second.
There is a case before the Wisconsin Supreme Court right
now that would overturn Act ten. I think you and
I sort of agree that these justices have been waiting
their entire careers to find an excuse to strike down acten, which,
by the way, has been upheld by how many different

(01:26:43):
courts federal and state courts have upheld it over the years.
But now the.

Speaker 12 (01:26:47):
Stake it doesn't It's like it's the state of Wisconsin's
own supreme court. This is a totally defined president. Nothing
new has happened, there's no change in the law. This
is literally what happens when you put politicians, like one
of the people running this spring, when you put politicians
in the state Supreme Court instead of jurists, instead of
people uphold the law on the constitution.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
Do you obviously think they're going to strike it down?
Do you think they do it before the gubernatorial election
because you want to see property taxes, You want to
see every tax just dramatically increase. Repeal Act ten. I
mean you said it, what thirty billion dollars worth of
savings over the last fifteen years if that goes away,

(01:27:32):
if you think your property tax bill was high? Now
just wait, do you think there's any chance this very
political court that they know the impact of their decisions.
No way, this is happening before April seven. But do
you think it happens before November.

Speaker 12 (01:27:47):
No, I think they are so political. We saw this
last year in the Supreme Court race, where they waited
in several key issues just to stoke fear before they
ruled on some of those key issues last before last
year's election to the State Supreme Court. I think they
will push this back well after the November elections. But

(01:28:07):
I have no doubt, particularly if you have Taylor, who's
the most radical Madison politician I've ever seen, running for
the State Supreme Court. If they add another there, I
think they'll just wait till after November and then take actions,
and then Katie bar the door. Not only will your
property taxes go up beyond their wildest fears, on top

(01:28:30):
of it, it's a double whammie. It will also take
money out of the classroom. So not only do your
taxes go up, it'll take money out of the classroom
where it's actually helping students and put it into these
massive union contract benefits that we saw before. That will
be painful not only the property taxpayers, but on top

(01:28:50):
of that, will take money out of the classroom and
ultimately hurt students. It's a lose lose proposition, but it's
what you get both with the State Supreme Court. Or
if you get people like Mandela Barnes and Democrats controlling
the State Senate and the State Assembly, all the things
will happen.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
Do you think it's going to be Barnes. I mean
it was very clear. By omitting Governor, Evers thanked pretty
much everybody. He did not think or did not mention
either of his two lieutenant governors, Mandela or Sarah Rodriguez,
both of whom are running to replace him. He did
not mention the Attorney General Josh Cole, who is running

(01:29:27):
for a third term, against the very very good Eric Tony,
Republican candidate who's running again. It's very clear I think
Evers wants none of those three to win their respective races.
He was pictured backstage after the speech last night with
David Crowley, the Milwaukee County executive, who it's believed he

(01:29:48):
might want. How do you see this race playing out?
Because I just saw an IBD tip poll that came
out last night, sir, that shows Mandela twenty eight percent,
Sarah Rodriguez twenty percent, and Crowley in a distant third
at seven.

Speaker 12 (01:30:03):
Yeah. I think in the end, well, two things. One,
I think Tony eavers really just as he isn't much
in policy outside of education policy. Uh politically, I don't
think is actively engaged. I think it's a handful of
people in his office that are really driving this and
they're very better uh anybody that they've got a gripe with.
So it didn't surprise me that there wasn't any praise

(01:30:26):
for either his current or former lieutenant governor nor the
attorney general.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (01:30:31):
You know, David Crawley actually a very nice guy. Yeah,
I think my appearances comes across very well, pleasant, jovial guy.
But think about this is a guy whose administration couldn't
bother to actually renew their health insurance. That's the basic,
you know, test of litmus test of competency. But I
think more damning is this is a guy who lobbied

(01:30:52):
to get the state government to allow him to raise
your sales tax and still had to come back and
raise property taxes after that we had a deficit. So
if you're worried about that kind of nonsense, the problems
in Milwaukee happening all across the state, the last thing
you want to do is put Mandela Barnes or David
Crawley in charge of your state government.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
It is actually interesting that Governor Reavers did make mention
of Milwaukee being brought back from the brink of bankruptcy.
I made note of that pixus. I'm like, well, wait
a second, which political party was in tro I seem
to remember we were brought back from the fiscal brink
after a pension scandal in Milwaukee County in the early
two thousands. I seem to recall that what political party

(01:31:35):
was in charge back then. I want to, if I may, sir,
get your thoughts on something. I was going to dive
into a little bit later, but I think this is
sort of right up your alley. Mark Halpern, very very
good reporter, said last night at the Capitol Hill Club,
there was a two hour meeting about seventy five to

(01:31:56):
one hundred people. Cabinet members Scott and Howard lutnek RFK Junior,
Sean Duffy, good friend of ours, Susie Wiles also spoke.
There were polsters like Tony Fabrizio, a whole bunch of
legislative aids, and they were all talking about strategy for
the midterm. Okay, and Fabrizio laid out what the issue

(01:32:22):
is to quote Halprit, the economy will be the issue
in the election. Messages that break through banning stock trading
for Congress, a bill, by the way that our own
Brian's style, introduced transparency on health insurance data, including on
pricing and claims reimbursement, lowering prescription drug costs. The Trump
tax cuts. Housing affordability is a huge issue for voters,

(01:32:45):
especially young people, and taking credit for closing the border
does not resonate that much. Men moderates, true independence and
Hispanic voters are the true persuadable voters, and the message
from Fabrizio was not pessimistic. He said, spend time on
podcasts and social media more than national news interviews. Paid

(01:33:06):
media should go on targeted media, not broadcast or even cable.
So it's sounding like a very targeted, very economic focused
message for everyone heading into the midterms. What do you
make of that?

Speaker 12 (01:33:23):
Oh, I think it's dead on the money. I said
it in twenty four You've heard me on your program
and others saying, you know, I don't talk about inflation,
I don't talk about the economy. I talk about the
cost of living. I talk about you know, in the
four years during Joe Biden. Filling up a tank of
gas a quick trip went up a buck and a quarter.

(01:33:44):
Going to the local grocery store in Delafield cost me
the you know, two grocery cards I could get four
years earlier. Was what one about one cost me that
I started about my kids saying almost one thousand dollars
more a month in the mortgage payments from what would
have paid during Trump's first term. Those things resonated in
the November twenty fourth election. I think people are still

(01:34:07):
They're appreciative of many of the changes, but I think
they still feel that and particularly we see a young
America's foundation in our polling and research. Young people really
concerned about housing, really concerned about even be able to
afford a house someday, starting a family, owning a home.
They want to hear people talk about. I would add
to that list. In Wisconsin, property taxes and utility prices.

(01:34:31):
We can say clear as day, when I was governor
and Republicans were in charge, property taxes, income taxes were down,
utility rates, the cost of energy was way down compared
to the last seven years when you had Tony Eavers
in charge. And going forward it gets even worse. So
that is the difference. You want to pay more, you
put liberals in charge. You want to pay less and

(01:34:52):
be able to get by and support your family and
your loved ones. You got to vote for conservatives.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
That you do. Scott Walker, former governor and president into
Young America's Foundation, Sir, it is always a pleasure having
you on. We'd love to have you on again soon.
I just I love your political analysis.

Speaker 12 (01:35:09):
Thanks Dan, thanks for your good work, and thanks again
to Will for helping you out out.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
We appreciate it absolutely, sir, have yourself a wonderful evening.
We're going to dive into that in a little bit
more depth. What a bunch of the top Republican figures
in the administration, legislative leaders, congressional leaders as well. We're
talking about the mid term message. Also, Democrats put out
a trans Bill of rights. All that and much more.

(01:35:35):
When The Dan o'donald Show returns, we thanks once again
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(01:36:38):
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one time it got dark a little early and her

(01:37:01):
best friend's parents. You know, She's in the car and
I pass her in the parking lot. And ever since,
she is convinced that I Am not going to pick
her up from soccer practice. So I get a text
saying at four fifteen, my wife texts me, are you
picking up Grace? I said yes, and then I text,

(01:37:24):
for the love of all things Holy Grace, I will
pick you up. Because she can see all the texts
because she uses my Apple ID on her iPad. My
wife just texts me as she drops off my daughter
literally coming back from commercial break. We checked the text
one last time just to make sure you were in

(01:37:46):
fact coming. So, no matter what I do, no matter
how much responsibility is placed on me by conservatives here
in Wisconsin, by Republican leadership, by the White House. For
I've broadcast from the Whitehouse like three times, but my
daughter still thinks I Am not going to pick her
up from soccer practice tonight. You're your producer producer, Andrew said, Grace,

(01:38:14):
He's got your back. He is reminding me that after
we do our interview, Jerry Bott is going to come
on the program to talk about the Trip of a
Lifetime used to be Jay Weber's Trip of a Lifetime,
but then Jay the Turncoat decided he wanted to retire
from Daily radio and get up at a normal human

(01:38:34):
being time. How dare he? We're kidding? We love Jay.
He is an incredible friend, incredible broadcaster. We are so excited.
You've been hearing the promos over the past couple of
days here on the Dan O'Donnell Show. The Jay Webber
podcast is going to debut April seventh. It's going to
be Tuesday and Friday. I believe the Mark Belling podcast

(01:38:58):
is Monday Wednesday. It would make sense. Jay is going
to do his podcast twice a week. And I can't
wait for it because there has been avoid as much
as I'd loved I have loved listening to Ben as
well as Jason Gotch our newest edition on WISN. There's

(01:39:18):
nothing like the ogs Jay Webber and Mark Belling to
complete your day of broadcast listening. And in fact, I
was actually just meeting with Jason and Ben yesterday and
I don't know if I'm authorized to speak on behalf
of all of us, but we are expanding better Noah Candidate,

(01:39:40):
the segment that we have always done here on the
Dan o'donald Show where local candidates from across our listening
area call in and make their elevator pitches. It is
not just going to be on the Dan o'donald Show
this year. It is going to be on The benyout
Show and The Jason Gotch Show. We're tentatively going to
do this on Monday, March twenty third, so the day

(01:40:01):
before in person absentee voting opens up. We are going
to have a full day where you are going to
be able to get information about the candidates, listen to
the candidates, hear them in their own words, make their
pitches for why they are the conservative choice. And for
the first time ever, we are going to do something

(01:40:22):
that frankly has not been done before and should have
been done a long time ago. We are presenting the
Ultimate Conservative Voter Guide. We are working with conservatives and
Republican Party operatives and people all across the state of
Wisconsin in order to present a digital, interactive map of
Wisconsin that is going to be introduced probably about a

(01:40:45):
month from today as part of a brand new digital
initiative that we are so proud to be able to
debut for you. It is the Ultimate Conservative voter Guide.
It is going to be a digital map where you
can just click on your county or bring your county
down from a drop down menu and you will have
a list of every single conservative on the ballot. It

(01:41:08):
is something that we have been working very hard on
and now that the primary is over, we are going
to be getting candidate lists from all over the state.
Individual candidates have been reaching out to us for about
the last week week and a half, and we are
going to be debuting the state's Ultimate Conservative voter Guide,

(01:41:29):
very likely on March sixteenth, or Saint Patrick's Day on
the seventeenth, right as mail in ballots get mailed out,
So right around there you are going to be able
to have a complete guide to who the conservative candidates are.
We're not going to be endorsing. We're not going to
be saying, Okay, this is someone it is just ideologically

(01:41:53):
is this a conservative? Is this somebody who you can,
in good conscience if you are a conservative, vote for
Once again, I have had a number of candidates I
actually had too now say hey, Dan, you know, I'm
not really sure do I want to be a part
of this. I'm kind of in a blue area. I'm
worried that people will see my name on this voter

(01:42:13):
guide and they'll say, well, I'm not going to vote
for you. I'm telling you it is a huge advantage
to be part. We are going to be spending a
decent amount of money to pay to promote this on
social media, on some traditional media, and we may even
be doing candidate mailers to get this in the hands
of as many people as humanly possible as a way

(01:42:37):
of sort of advertising the Dan O'Donnell Show and all
of our various related entities and initiatives. But we have
got a staff of people, myself included, working on this,
and we are working. Let me tell you, folks, I
am spending way more time on a Google spreadsheet than
I ever thought I was going to as a broadcast professional.

(01:42:59):
But this, this is how much we care about getting
conservatives elected to those local races. I mean those local
positions school board, village board, mayor clerk, I mean judge,
for goodness sakes, district attorney. Actually, district attorney is a

(01:43:19):
partisan position. But you know what I'm saying, Like the
races that you're not going to hear a lot about
on this show, just because we have so many counties,
we have so many communities, I can't possibly spend time
on every single one as much as I'd like to.
But these are the people who make the decisions that

(01:43:40):
most directly impact you, Like government that picks up your trash.
Government that is in charge of your kid's school policies,
government that's in charge of your fire department, your police department.
Those are the government officials that have the most power
over your life, that most directly impact your life. And

(01:44:00):
it's sort of a paradox that we sort of know
the least about them. We know everything about President Trump.
We know a lot about Governor Evers, we know a
lot about our congressman, we know a lot about our senators. Well,
Ron Johnson. I mean, you know, Tammy Baldwin disappears every
six years for six years before she resurfaces like the
groundhog for election Day. Yeah, if she sees her shadow,

(01:44:27):
it's six more years of do nothingness in the United
States Senate. That's why. So if you want to be
a part of the State's conservative Ultimate Conservative voter Guide,
email medd at iHeartMedia dot com. That'll be online in
about a month. More still to come here on the
dan O'donnalds Show. As I said in our interview with

(01:44:49):
former Governor Scott Walker, the Trump administration a whole lot
of top cabinet officials. Susie Wilds, the chief of Staff,
sat down for about two hours last night chief pollster
Tony Fabrizio. He is one of the most respected Republican
pollsters out there as President Trump's polster forever, he said,
it is all about economic messaging ahead of the midterms.

(01:45:10):
The American people care about their financial future, they care
about affordability, So naturally, Democrats spent today introducing a trans
bill of Rights. Here's Promilajaia Paul.

Speaker 13 (01:45:24):
To trans people everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
I also want you to know this.

Speaker 13 (01:45:29):
Those people are threatened by your strength, by your joy
in being fully who you are. Those who fight against
trans people are just jealous of the freedoms that they
have taken to be fully who they are, and so
those people just want to destroy that rather than imagine

(01:45:53):
what it would be like to be fully who they are.
Wise words from our young people.

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
So the people who are fully who they are, just
so are clear, have like a forty percent suicide rate,
so high that it's referred to as a trans genocide.
Nobody hates trans people, least of all me. In fact,
I sometimes feel like I am the one person who
actually cares about people who are truly dealing with serious

(01:46:24):
mental illness. I am, and I try to use my
position to be a mental health advocate. I have been
very open about my own I was diagnosed with ADHD
about a year ago. I know, shocking, shocking that I've
got ADHD and I've been dealing with generalized anxiety disorder
for pretty much my entire life. And I urge people like,

(01:46:46):
that's not something I'm ashamed of. It's not something that
anybody should be ashamed of, but it should be something
if you are not feeling right, if you're not feeling
healthy mentally, you're not healthy and you need to say treatment.
And what I am so disgusted by is a medical profession.
Political people say well, you can just change your gender,

(01:47:09):
and if we just affirm your gender, all of your
other underlying, very serious mental health conditions can go away.
It's very very dangerous thinking. All right, we're going to
lighten things up. Talk about a European get away, the
trip of a lifetime. Coming up next. It's the Dan
o'donald Show. Stay tuned, it's the Dan o'donald Show. Just
a couple of minutes left here on the Dan o'donald Show.

(01:47:32):
I am already looking forward to a couple of days
in Prague. It's our European getaway. We take a smaller
group of listeners. We go for about six days or
so to a great European city, this time the Czech Republic.
It is going to be in the middle of April,
but coming up next October. The trip of a lifetime,

(01:47:56):
a cruise of the Northern Mediterranean with our friends at
Cruise and you are joining me now to talk about it.
Wy s N program director Jerry Bot, Jerry, this, this
is one of my bucket list cruises. This is a
fantastic one.

Speaker 4 (01:48:09):
It is.

Speaker 8 (01:48:09):
It's a really great itinerary. Thank you for letting me
on your program to to talk to your listeners about this.
This is Jay Weber's old trip before we decided to
take himself off of Daily Radio and dare go to
the world of podcasting. So they've asked me to talk
about the trip and I more than please to do so.
It really is. We said talk trip of a lifetime.
If you had a trip to France, or to Italy,

(01:48:31):
or to Spain or to Monica, that could be a
trip of a lifetime. This is all four all four
of those places, Italy, France, Being and Monica. It's basically
a cruise of the Northern rim of the Mediterranean.

Speaker 4 (01:48:43):
So the trip starts out.

Speaker 8 (01:48:44):
You fly from O'Hare to Rome, spend a night in Rome.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
What's you've you've done? It was just there in November.
What What's what's the biggest highlight of the trip, not
even close. It was Saint Peter's Basilica. It was I mean,
the coliseum is a must see anthy on, but just
to see the awe inspiring majesty of Saint Peter's is incredible.

Speaker 8 (01:49:04):
So you get a full day in Rome state a
five star hotel. Then you get on a fabulous ship
for the actual seven day sale of the Northern Mediterranean.
It's the Azamara Onward is the name of the ship.
Much more intimate than your big ocean going ships. Seven
hundred passengers maximum capacity, so very very intimate experience, world

(01:49:25):
class dining, very personalized service.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
To what I understand well. And normally these cruise ships
are three four thousand people, which is nice, but it
sometimes feels a little big. I can tell you we
did one with Cruise and Tour where it was just
our listeners and chartered a ship that was incredible. Everybody
says like that was, you know, their true highlight. The
smaller the ship, the better. Now, one of the downsides

(01:49:51):
some of those super small ships is you don't get
the world class amenities and entertainment. This one you do,
and that's what Ozamara is sort of famous.

Speaker 8 (01:49:57):
Yeah, no, it's really very impressive. I watched a real
a ten minute video on the ship itself on the
onward and it was pretty incredible with regard to the
amenities and as you say, you think had a couple
of lounges, a couple of different areas where you can
just kind of chill, but there's a lot of activity too.
The ports of call are very very interesting. By the way,
this is the end of October, so October twenty ninth

(01:50:18):
through the first week of November. I checked out the
weather and in the Mediterranean beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
Yes, oh we were there. We were in Rome and yeah,
it's gorgeous. Yeah, it's like it's if the sun is out,
it's going to be seventy degrees but it feels like
about eighty.

Speaker 4 (01:50:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
No, it's really really nice.

Speaker 8 (01:50:33):
So the portion and call in Italy other than Rome,
Florence and Pisa in Italy, Nice and Marseille in the
south of France, Palamos and Barcelona in Spain. And then
the one that I just love because it's a bucket
list thing for me. I like the gamble is Monica
Monte Carlo. You get to spend a full day in
Monte Carlo, which I think would just be awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
Absolutely. Absolutely, you're going to be in the tuxedo living
out your James Bond fantasy.

Speaker 8 (01:50:59):
Absolutely. Maybe you know any James Bond girl that would
like to show up with me, and that would be
would be just fine. So it's it's really really a
wonderful trip. And and I don't think that I'm trying
to think back. I don't think that any other trip
in my years with Cruising Tour has done the Northern Mediterranean.

Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:51:17):
I know that you guys that you're doing Greek Isles
this year, which could be could be.

Speaker 1 (01:51:22):
And by the way, we do have believe it or not,
we set sail in late July. We have like one
or two cabins still available. They said, you know, I
got to put this on social media, so while you're
checking out your Northern Mediterranean cruise, check the Greek Isles
cruise as well. Yeah, this this is an itinerary. I mean,
I love Italy. I'm half Italian, so go figure, but

(01:51:42):
I loved we did the London, Paris and uh Normandy
or the World War two for the for the eightieth
anniversary of D Day, and the French countryside is just beautiful,
so Marseille and nice. That is going to be fantastic
if south of France is supposed to be spectacular.

Speaker 8 (01:52:00):
And the other thing too, if you go and take
a look at the entire itinery and the pricing is this.

Speaker 1 (01:52:04):
Is a really affordable I was surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:52:08):
Some of the upper end cabins on on the onward
the ship very very affordable. The Veranda ones, yeah, ones
with the where you can actually go outside and enjoy
the weather. Here's how to book a trip, or if
you want more information, call Cruise and Tour.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
Here's their number. It's eight hundred three eight three thirty
one thirty one.

Speaker 8 (01:52:25):
Again eight hundred three eight three thirty one thirty one.
Or if you want to get a brochure and look
at the entire itinerary and some photos and that sort
of thing, just go online. Log on to Cruise dash
tour dot com. Again, Cruise dash tour dot com. It's
our Northern Mediterranean excursion end of October through the first
week of November should be spectactic.

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
And it's going to be fantastic because the folks at
Cruise and Tour they are the ultimate professionals. I mean,
I've been working with them for now, oh my gosh,
eight years, and they have never once failed to completely
surpass X. I mean, everything you want, everything you could
possibly need, is taken care of. These things can be intimidating.

(01:53:06):
You know your book, you're going to oh my gosh,
we're going to France, We're going to Italy, we're going
to Monaco. Well, they take care of everything. You know
that the people that they have on board to answer
every question, to help you through customs, to help you
through the airports and stuff. And the other thing I
always talk about, and it is a big selling point,

(01:53:27):
is that you are there with a group of people
just like you. They all listen to this radio station,
you all think pretty much the same politically, there's always
something to talk about system right, it's it's Wisconsin nice.
And I'm telling you, doing these trips for so long,
there's a group of people that come together and really

(01:53:47):
become friends. I mean, my goodness, My in laws have
a group of people from the Mark Belling slash Dan
O'Donnell's show cruises that they go out with every couple
of yees go figure. Wife and I are typically invited,
but we can't quite leave the puppy. Yeah, so yeah,
Cruise Dash Tour dot com.

Speaker 8 (01:54:07):
They do take care of everything. If you're gambling at
a casino in money, Carlo, and you've got seventeen against
the dealer six, I'll tell you whether that's to hit.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
The answer is no, by the way, no never, never,
You kidding me. That's a bus card right there. Well,
the dealer has to stand on a soft seventeen.

Speaker 4 (01:54:24):
Right, Well, I don't know, but money, Carl, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:54:27):
That's a good question. I should probably remember that because
I'm gonna be in Vegas in like two months. All right,
Cruise Dash Tour dot com. It is the trip of
a lifetime. Jerry, thank you, Thank you sir so much.
We are at a time, believe.

Speaker 12 (01:54:39):
It or not.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
For the Wednesday edition of the Dan o'donald Show back
tomorrow three oh six pm. Talk to you then,

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