Slavery, Abolition, and Juneteenth

On a special Juneteenth edition of the "Dan O'Donnell Show," Dan runs down the history of slavery and abolition in this country and how Republicans have always been the party of liberty and Democrats the party of oppression.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Friday juneteenth edition of The Dan o'donald Show.
It is feeling like truly an all American holiday today
as the banks are closed, a lot of people have
three day weekends. President Trump is unveiling a brand new
Air Force One as we speak.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
We will hear.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
From the President in just a second Team Usay World
Cup Soccer in action. As always on this program, you
will not hear any spoilers from me. That is my
solemn promise. I will not if you are recording the match,
give you any updates anything like that.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
I would beware. I would beware if you.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Are waiting for the workday to end and you're listening
to this program. Maybe turned down the commercials because we
do have World Cup updates coming in. But I recognize
a lot of people are in fact recording this game.
Since it's Team USA, it has been our World Cup
policy we are not going to give any updates because
people watch at different times. All Right, into the Friday edition,

(01:08):
we go, as always, you will have a chance to
ask me anything, make any point. Talk Radio Roulette comes
up in the five o'clock hour, as does our weekly
look back at the strangest stories of the past seven days,
how bizarre. In a fun filled Friday five o'clock hour,
another chance for you to win twenty five hundred dollars
in our two to fifty k USA giveaway and honor

(01:30):
of the fourth of July America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday.
Daily Trump Day coming up in the four o'clock hour,
unhinged Liberal of the day, all sorts of fun. And
also here at home, Governor Evers unveils his new commutations
board and it's filled with about as many liberals as
you would imagine. We will get into that coming up

(01:52):
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(02:15):
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you listen to podcasts. President Trump on this the first
day that the Memorandum of Understanding with Iran is in
effect is at Joint Bass Andrews. Right now, he is
holding a press conference talking about that memorandum of understanding

(02:38):
and also unveiling the brand new air force, one that
the US god is part of a broader deal with
the Emir of Qatar. Let's go now live to President
Trump for just a second.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
We never see where are they doubed to come back?
They were so good at the fight. It did that
one and I've never seen that many. And they were
right and it looked like they were a foot away
from each other going fast.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I kept saying, when are they coming back?

Speaker 4 (03:06):
That was it?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
So we'll have them do a little bit of maneuvers
back and forth. But again, you are very very special people,
and we're very very lucky.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
To have you.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
You're incredibly talent, talented and brilliant in every way, and
it's an honor to be with you. And again, this
really deserved ascend of because there's never been a plane
like this ever built, and there will never be a
plane like this built. Again, this has things that no
other plane can never have, including the ones that are

(03:37):
being built the more standard as they call it, seven
forty sevens. There will never be anything like what you're
seeing behind me. So again, the press, you get ready,
they're going to take you for a little tour quickie.
I think they don't want you to have cameras, so
we'll get you pictures. But you'll see something like you've
never seen before. And you also spend a lot of
time there as we fly to different places to put

(03:59):
out five and other things.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
I'm a great fan of everybody in this incredible brand
new hangar, and God bless America.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Thank you very much, everybody.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
All right, That is President Trump just wrapping up his
remarks at Joint Base Andrew's brand new hangar, brand new
Air Force one. We will get to the substantive part
of his speech where he was talking about the first
day that the Memorandum of Understanding is in effect, contrary.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
To reports that we're coming.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Folks, just whenever you see something quoted by FARS, whenever
you see something in American media that comes from the
Iranian State News Agency, just to assume it's complete.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
BS.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
There was a report out early this morning that Iran
was saying that the straight of horror moves was closed again,
that they weren't going to open it because of continued
Israeli aggression against Hesblat in Lebanon. The strait is open.
We are seeing the most passed through the strait in
three months. Again, we will get into this in the

(05:03):
four o'clock hour as part of the daily Trump d
here on the Dan O'Donnell show. Today is, of course
June teenth, and a lot of people aren't quite sure
what June teenth is. It's been a federal holiday since
twenty twenty one, and in fact, it was President Trump
in twenty twenty who was first sort of pushing for

(05:25):
the idea of celebrating what essentially amounts to the Emancipation
Day of all slaves, previously held by the Democrat Confederacy.
It wasn't until twenty twenty one that Congress acted nearly
unanimously to make June tenth the federal holiday. It has
been celebrated in Texas forever now. What the holiday actually

(05:47):
marks is General Gordon Granger issuing General Order Number three
in Galveston, Texas, formally informing the state of the emancipation Proclamation.
Two years later, the state slaves were officially freed on
June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five. That was the end that

(06:09):
was the last slaves were freed from the Confederacy. Now,
people in Galveston the following year began celebrating what they
called Jubilee Day, which eventually came to be known as
June teenth. Democrats State Representative Al Edwards in nineteen seventy
nine sponsored a bill that would make June teenth a

(06:32):
paid state holiday, and Republican Governor Bill Clement signed that
bill into law. Over the next couple of decades, more
and more states started to celebrate June teenth. In fact,
Milwaukee has one of the longest lasting. In fact, it
goes well before Texas officially made it a state holiday.
This was, I believe, the fifty fifth June teenth parade

(06:55):
and celebration in Milwaukee. So all across the country people
were celebrating June teenth. It was a bipartisan holiday pretty
much until the exact moment that Democrats in the post
George Floyd era decided that it wasn't. This first sort

(07:15):
of started, and it can be best summed up in,
of course, the Summer of Love. Twenty twenty an article
in the UK Guardian by a woman named Kelsey Smooth,
an American who writes Juneteenth not the fourth of July
was the real independence Dan and this sort of summed
up the liberal sentiment, and I believe still sums up

(07:36):
the liberal sentiment about the fourth of July independence America's greatness.
All of the polls that we've seen over the past
week that just twenty some percent of Democrats planned to
fly the American flag on the fourth of July. Every
one of them, it would seem, has no issue with
the Juneteenth flag or the Pride flag. Just twenty nine

(07:58):
percent are proud to be an A, while ninety percent
of Democrats are Kelsey Smooth. This is twenty twenty on
the fourth of July of that year. I do not
celebrate the fourth of July. This choice, which I made
several years ago, is one that I wouldn't previously have

(08:20):
called expressly political. I didn't stop celebrating the Fourth of
July in an attempt to formally renounce the occasion for
its utter hypocrisy, though I certainly believe I would have
been more than justified in holding that sentiment. I stopped
observing the holiday because I felt ridiculous doing so. I
won't deny that the years I spent gathering with friends

(08:41):
and family wearing the colors red, white, and blue and
staring upwards into an evening sky illuminated by dazzling light.
Showers were for me filled with an irreplaceable innocence and optimism.
But as I moved into adulthood learned the expansive and
ongoing history of American imperialism, experienced blatant racism, homophobia, and transphobia,

(09:04):
and internalized that my ancestors were held in bondage and
considered chattel. Far beyond the date and year that I
was supposed to consider the Declaration of American Freedom, the
idea of celebrating the holiday became untenable. She then goes
on to say that that year she took part in
a Juneteenth celebration, and that is the real birth of

(09:27):
freedom in the United States, and that June teenth is
is the real independence date. July fourth, seventeen seventy six, Well,
that wasn't independent state at all. And that is just
how a whole lot of liberals feel about this country,
feel about its history, and that's why they don't celebrate
this country. That's why they don't celebrate the fourth of July,

(09:49):
fly the flag, or take part in a day that
is meant to honor all of us. That is meant
to honor our founding, yes, our history, of course, but
also who we are as a people and where we're going.
It is a day for literally all Americans. Until people
like Kelsey Smoot and pretty much every major Democrat leader

(10:10):
in the post George Floyd era of twenty twenty two
about President Trump's election a second time in November of
twenty twenty four, they try to divide us by having
an Independence Day only for Black Americans, to elevate African
Americans and have a holiday just for them that is
supposed to make all of us feel bad about our

(10:33):
slaveholding past. Do not, under any circumstances, fall into the
trap of believing this, because June teenth, just like the
fourth of July, just like what we celebrate every single summer,
and especially this summer with America's two hundred and fiftieth,
is in fact the greatness of America. The history that

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Democrats keep from you is the history of their own malfeasans.
The history of racism and bigotry and chattel slavery is
entirely the doing of one political party that established, maintained,
and then fought a war to uphold. The Republican Party

(11:21):
was founded in eighteen fifty four in Rippin, Wisconsin as
an expressly pro abolition party. It was a direct response
to the Kansas Nebraska Act. Kansas Nebraska allowed settlers in
those two territories they weren't yet states, to determine for

(11:41):
themselves through popular sovereignty, which meant votes by white male settlers,
whether slavery would be legal in those territories. Now, that
effectively repealed the Missouri Compromise of eighteen twenty, which prohibited
slavery from any new territories any new states joining the
Union north of the thirty six thirty parallel. This was

(12:05):
going to be the demarcation line for where slavery was
going to be legal. That headed off what could have
been a significant conflict much earlier in the country's history. Well,
Kansas Nebraska effectively repealed the Missouri Compromise, and as a result,
a group of abolitionists in the North realized that all

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of the parties that were sort of rising up in
opposition to the big National Party, which had all of
its political power centered in the South. The Democratic Party,
founded by Andrew Jackson in the eighteen twenties, they weren't
going to get anywhere politically. The core principle that they
organized under in that little white schoolhouse in Rippon was

(12:50):
free soil, free labor.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Free men.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
What that meant was that there was going to be
an expansion of the United States States well westward, beyond
the existing boundaries, and they were going to organize they
were going to ensure through this new political movement and
new political party, that there wasn't going to be a
further expansion of slavery. In eighteen sixty, the new Republican

(13:17):
Party ran a presidential candidate for the very first time.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
His name was Abraham Lincoln.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
At the convention that nominated him, on the eighteen sixty
Republican Party platform, there was an explicit declaration that the
normal condition of US territories was freedom. They expressly rejected
the idea that the Constitution extended slavery into the territories,

(13:47):
and they explicitly in this platform condemned the African slave trade.
They opposed any federal legal protection for slavery in these
new territories, and in response to this, Democrats were absolutely furious.
In both eighteen fifty six and eighteen sixty the Democratic

(14:09):
Party platforms at their nominating conventions affirmed that Congress had
no power to interfere with slavery in the states and territories.
It did become a states rights issue that led to
the Civil War, but ultimately what underpinned this was the
Southern Democrats who wanted federal protection for slavery everywhere in

(14:31):
their states and then in the new territories that they
would then be able to dominate because they would expand
the slaveholding empires that they had. They would be able
to remember, the African slave trade had been barred fifty
sixty years earlier, in the early eighteen hundreds, so the
only way you'd be able to get slaves would be

(14:52):
to buy them from the existing slaveholding Democrats who are
already in the Union. So what happened in eighteen sixty
was the Northern Democrats were saying, yeah, we're not quite
sure we want this dramatic expansion of slavery. Southern Democrats,

(15:13):
who held all the power, they nominated a candidate by
the name of John C. Breckinridge, who was very, very
very pro slavery. Northern Democrats nominated Stephen Douglas, who you
might recall had famous debates over the issue of slavery
with Lincoln, and because Democrats essentially split their party in two,

(15:36):
unlike the old Whigs and the anti Democrat parties in
previous presidential elections, in eighteen sixty, it was the Democrats
who were fractured, and Lincoln won. Almost as soon as
he did, the southern states, led by Democrat governors, all
started seceding. South Carolina was the very first, on this

(16:00):
December twentieth, eighteen sixty, long before Lincoln ever became president
or there was any move toward abolition. It was the
Democrat controlled South that decided to secede. By mid to
late January. Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana all followed, and
it wasn't until April twelfth, eighteen sixty one, that the

(16:23):
first shots were fired of the Civil War. The Confederate
forces shelled for its sumter, but already the nation was fractured.
Already the nation was split. Democrats didn't want to be
in a country led by a Republican president who they
believed was going to take away their slaves. The movement

(16:45):
toward abolition and the movement toward freedom began with the
election of Lincoln, and in a very real sense it
began four years, six years rather earlier, in that little
white schoolhouse in Rippon, Wisconsin. There was a bloody Civil War,
by far, the bloodiest war in American history, still to

(17:06):
this day, the deadliest war. More Americans died in the
American Civil War than in all In fact, more Americans
died in one battle, the Battle of Shiloh, than who
had died in all previous American wars up to that
point combined. That's how bloody this war was. And it
was all fought over the idea that all men, all women,

(17:30):
all people are unique innately endowed by their creator with
the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,
and that liberty was essential for all people. It was
the Democratic Party that was fighting them the entire way.
And yes, it was the Democratic Party. Jefferson Davis, the

(17:53):
President of the Confederacy, was active in Democrat Party politics.
Pretty Much every Confederate leader was a Democrat. The Southern
Democrats later known as the Dixiecrats, dominated the South since
the party was created in the eighteen twenties. There were
no anti slavery Democrats back then, and the Democrat dominance

(18:19):
only got more intense even after the Civil War ended
and the period of reconstruction began. Violence against black people
who were freed by the Emancipation Proclamation but ultimately freed
by the end of the war in April of eighteen
sixty five, and then eventually all slaves were freed on

(18:41):
June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five. But even after they were,
even after the day that we celebrate today, Democrats were
viciously opposed to any sort of rights, any sort of
voting power, any sort of franchise for the newly freed slaves,

(19:01):
these new American citizens. When we come back here on
the Dan o'donalds Show, we will get into that and
the history of the Democratic Party that never really changed
throughout the twentieth century. Juneteenth, America's newest federal holiday, has
been used pretty much since it was first declared. Since

(19:23):
it was first made a federal holiday in the immediate
aftermath of George Floyd in twenty twenty one by the
left to sort of push this idea that July fourth
isn't our real independence day, it isn't our real celebration.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Conservatives have sort of.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Gone along with this and made fun of the idea
of Juneteenth, or as it was originally known, Jubilee Day,
the emancipation of all of the slaves following proclamation that
was read in Galveston and Texas that freed the last
remaining holdouts, the slaves that just had not received word

(20:04):
that the Confederacy had fallen. Look, you couldn't go on
X back then. You couldn't just put on CNN. Oh
hey we're free, all right, let's chill's, let's get out
of here. No, it was the slaveholders, as you could imagine,
democrats all there was not a single Republican folks that

(20:24):
just so, just so we're all clear that there was
not a single Republican who ever owned a slave. Every
In fact, there weren't a whole lot of Southern Democrats
who owned slaves either. The number of slave owners was
actually vanishingly small. Would always kind of amazes me about

(20:44):
the left's sort of fetishization of condemning America and only
America for slavery, for the West African slave trade. Do
you know how the West African slave trade actually worked?
Because it never really gets taught, and it really should
The white slave ship owners, the slave traders. They weren't

(21:10):
going deep into the jungles of West Africa to capture
and then take back various tribes people, the wealthy African tribes,
the kingdoms that existed at the time. They realized very
quickly that they could get very, very very rich by

(21:32):
selling their conquered peoples or just going into various villages
and small, little sparsely populated areas of their kingdoms or
neighboring kingdoms capture the people that they knew the lay
of the land. They had warriors at their disposal that
would be able to do the dirty work. So they
were rounding up Africans really across the western half of

(21:55):
the continent, and they were bringing them to the slave
markets that were just right there on the beach. When
the ships would arrive, there would be tons and tons
of slaves that were there for purchase, for auction. We
condemned the buyers of the slave We mean, we never ever, ever,
really condemned the sellers. And there's a reason for that

(22:17):
because it kind of kills the whole racial grievance aspect
of this. But the point of this is not to
dwell on slavery itself, which really was an unspeakable evil.
And the other myth that Democrats have gotten into the
blood stream was that the founders didn't care about the slaves.
They were perfectly fine to keep chattel slavery around. They

(22:40):
most certainly were not. In fact, pretty much all of
the northern colonies you had just the imment abolitionists. In fact,
even those who participated in the slave trade. You think that, oh,
my gosh, they were such hypocrites talking about them. They
were saying that the existing writing, the writing that survives
to this half of them were saying, yeah, we're kind

(23:02):
of hypocrites here, since like half of us own slaves
and we're talking about, you know, liberty for all people.
But they realized that because the slave holding south, the
southern colonies would never sign on to a declaration of independence,
there would just be no chance to ever break away
from Britain. They essentially had to punt on the issue.
And then, of course the three fifths Compromise, where slaves

(23:25):
were counted as three fifths of a person for the
purposes of congressional apportionment, that is seen as this horrible
evil that our founders didn't see slaves as fully human.
That is one hundred percent incorrect. In fact, the three
Fifths Compromise is one of the big reasons that slavery
did not expand, and ultimately it was able to be

(23:45):
abolished through a bloody civil war. The northern colonies thought,
perhaps maybe a little naively, that if they could just
limit the voting power of the Southern states after we
became a country, the way we did apportionment is the
way we do it now. It's by population. Well, the
South had a massive advantage in population for both Congress

(24:10):
the House seat apportionment, as well as electoral votes. In
determining who was going to be the president, the South
would just dominate. You would have Southern leaders pro slavery
politics forever, because if you counted every slave as a person,
the South would just have way more people. So the

(24:31):
three fifths Compromise was a way of stopping that. So
the Civil War was fought, and of course the Democratic
Party controlled the South.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
It was very pro slavery.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
It was yes, states rights and local control and all
of that. They didn't want an overpowering federal bureaucracy. But
what they really wanted was to continue the practice of slavery.
Now when they were defeated in April of eighteen sixty five,
and then Lincoln was assassinated, you had a whole lot

(25:00):
of people who were just like John Wilkes Booth and
the other conspiratories in the Lincoln assassination, furious that the
South was not rising again, and you had a whole
lot of former Confederate soldiers who were just sort of
sitting around kind of ticked off that they lost. Well
in late eighteen sixty five, some sources have it being

(25:22):
founded on Christmas Eve, eighteen sixty five, possibly a couple
of weeks later January of eighteen sixty six, you had
a group of six former Confederate officers get together to
form a social club known as the Ku Klux Clan.

(25:43):
Very very quickly it turned into a violent supremacist terror group.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Nathaniel Bedford Forrest.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
A very prominent Democrat former Confederate general, was elected as
its very first grand Wizard, and the Klan became very
powerful and very active in democratic politics. Unfortunately, that meant
mass violence to disenfranchise the newly freed black men who
were allowed to vote. They didn't want them voting Republican

(26:12):
because Remember, there were a whole ton of slaves in
the South, and if all of those slaves started voting
and voting as a block for the you know, anti
slavery party, and voting against the people who just a
couple of years earlier had enslaved them, that could be
a big political problem. So there were mass incidents of

(26:32):
violence Georgia, New Orleans. In fact, in Georgia there were
actually you can actually go back and look at the
vote totals eighteen sixty eight, armed klansmen just surrounded pretty
much every polling place they could find, and wouldn't you
know it, Republican votes plummeted dramatically in the counties.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Where the ku Klux Klan was there.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
New Orleans, you had twenty one thousand registered black Republican
eighteen sixty eight. Just two hundred and seventy six of
them voted out of twenty one thousand. One of the
most famous infamous massacres happened in Louisiana, the Colfax Massacre
early eighteen seventies. Several dozen black Republican voters were killed.

(27:18):
There were assassinations of black office holders, delegates to conventions.
White Republicans were targeted. Finally, Republican President Gerald Ford and
the Congress had to act. They enacted the Enforcement Acts
of eighteen seventy also called the Clan Act, which basically

(27:39):
criminalized any sort of conspiracy to deprive rights and allowed
the Feds to go in and take a look at
elections to basically ensure that the Klan wasn't interfering in
the franchise, and the President Grant was able to suspend
habeas corpus and send in federal troops when necessary to

(28:01):
put down what essentially amounted to an armed rebellion by
the ticked off Democrat Southerners. By about eighteen seventy six
eighteen seventy seven, though Grant was out of office and
the federal oversight sort of waned. Democrats, realizing that they

(28:22):
could no longer just deploy their shock troops in the
KKK to preserve their electoral power, began turning two things
that Democrats today accuse Republicans of doing metaphorically or in spirit.
They enacted poll taxes, literacy tests. They engaged in blatant
voter intimidation and election fraud. A poll tax. We are

(28:46):
told now that voter ID is a poll tax. Democrats
back in the eighteen seventies and eighteen eighties actually did
require payment to vote, and there would be literacy tests
where white Democrats would administer a different test to would
be black voters. There were like complex questions about American
history and civics. White people either got easy questions or

(29:11):
they were grandfathered in. If their ancestors could vote, then
they were allowed to vote. I mean, all of this
was just grossly unlawful, grossly unconstitutional. One of the biggest
ways that Democrats prevented black people from gaining political power

(29:31):
was you couldn't prevent black people from running in elections, right,
that would be easily that you'd be able to call
in the FEDS and stop. Democrats. Noill ran their own primaries.
They would just exclude black candidates. They would say, Okay,
you can't run if you're black, you cannot run in
our primary.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Well, guess what. Democrats controlled the South.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
They controlled the South all the way to about the
nineteen sixties and even beyond. So if you couldn't run
in a Democrat primary, you were never going to win
an election.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
And that's what happened. Now we're talking.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
A lot about the Civil War and the immediate aftermath.
But all of these issues persisted well into the twentieth century,
and it was still Democrat bigotry, Democrat racism, and Democrats
attempting to flex their political muscles through intimidation to try

(30:30):
to limit the spread of Republicanism throughout the South. We'll
get into that tie it all into today when the
Dan O'Donnell Show returns in just a second. Juneteenth is
absolutely a perfect time to remind the entire country that
Democrats have always been the party of hate, division, slavery, bigotry,

(30:51):
anti civil rights, tyranny, oppression, and pretty much everything that
they claim Republicans. You know what, I was going to
do some other stuff in the four o'clock hour, but
this is very important because what I always hear when
I do these sorts of historical lectures, and frankly, folks,

(31:11):
Juneteenth is a perfect day to do this because not
enough people are ever told about the actual history of slavery,
of abolition, about the politics behind it, about the reconstruction era,
about the early twentieth century, about the civil rights era,
and what we are told as a way of sort
of absolving all of the Democrats of their sins and

(31:36):
pinning the tale of racism and oppression on Republicans is
that at some point in the nineteen sixties or the
nineteen seventies, there was this big ideological switch that all
of a sudden, because of I don't know LBJ and
the Southern strategy, that all of the Dixiecrat Democrats just

(31:59):
suddenly be came woke liberals and all of the Republicans
just sort of became evil racist. It's a myth, it's
a pernicious myth, and really, for the last i'd say
thirteen fourteen years, I have been making it my mission
to debunk that. So we're going to do a rather
brief Daily Trump date. We'll get to what President Trump

(32:20):
said about an hour ago doing the new Air Force
one unveil, talking about the Memorandum of Understanding which went
into effect today. We'll get into that. Also, big news,
Tulci Gabbard, on her last day as Director of National Intelligence,
drops a trove of documents implicating doctor Anthony Fauci in

(32:44):
a cover up of his own involvement in the funding
of the dangerous gain of function research at the Wuhan
Institute of Virology that did, in fact cause the COVID
nineteen outbreak. So we'll try to get to all of that.
But in the civil rights era it was it as
though in the early twentieth century and going all the

(33:06):
way into the nineteen sixties. As first you had Brown
v Board of Education in nineteen fifty four, which desegregated
the schools, and then all of the issues surrounding that
in the South. It wasn't as though there was a
legislative solution here. The Jim Crow South was a big,

(33:27):
big problem, and it wasn't as though there was any
Republican voting power whatsoever. Dominance by the Democrat Party continued
straight from the reconstruction post reconstruction eras right into the
nineteen sixties. In fact, when you hear what I Am
about to play one of the more infamous speeches in

(33:49):
American history, which, to be fair, at the end of
his life he did disavow and called it one of
the biggest mistakes they ever made. George Wallace gave his
famous segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever speech in January
of nineteen sixty three. It was in the nineteen forties.

(34:12):
It wasn't some bygone era. This was in JFK was President.
Democrats still as we were passing civil rights acts in Congress, which,
by the way, every piece of civil rights legislation passed
with a much greater percentage of Republicans voting for it

(34:32):
than Democrats. Northern Democrats were starting to get smart, realizing
that the racism of the Dixiecrats South was not going
to be a winning political strategy, and they were voting
for civil rights. Most people understood by the early part
of the nineteenth nineteen hundred, twentieth century, and even by

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the latter half of the eighteen hundreds, that we needed
to have equal repris We needed to have equal rights.
That you know, segregation separate but equal facilities just was
not going to work. But in the nineteen sixties you
still had a whole lot of Southern Democrats who still thought,

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like George Wallace, to.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
The freedom loving blood that is in earth, and then
now answer to the carn of that practictained upon the South.
In the name of the greatest people that have ever
proved this earth, I draw the line in.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
The dust and passed the government.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
Before the feet of Tyrne, and I say segregation now segregation,
the MA and segregation forever.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
That's how a.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Whole lot of Democrats thought in those days. But they
were getting older. George Wallace was not going to be
around for much longer. The Dixiecrat Democrats started dying off
that they were retiring, and they were being replaced in
the nineteen seventies by a new generation. The first of

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the sort of liberal Democrats was, in fact JFK's vice
president Lyndon B. Johnson from Texas, who introduced the Great
Society legislation that, if you believe at least one biographer,
did have a rather racially tinged component. Johnson is quoted
in a biography as saying he will have bad word

(36:30):
for southern black people voting Democrat for one hundred years
by getting them hooked on social welfare benefits, which unfortunately
did end up happening in the nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties.
I think that generally is an apocryphal quote by LBJ,
not because it's not something that he would have said.

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He totally would have said something like that, but just
it's only in one source. It's not widely considered to
be an actual quote from him. But you had those
sorts of policies. You had the Jimmy Carters, you had
the Bill Clinton's, the Al Gores. This younger generation of
Southern Democrats, they were going to school in the North.

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They were getting into the counter culture movement of the
nineteen sixties, nineteen seventies, Black Revolution, the theory and all
of that sort of thing, and they were very progressive liberals.
They started taking over Southern politics. There was not a single,
not one Dixiecrat Democrat whoever became a Republican save for once.

(37:37):
John Thurman was the only one, and he disavowed pretty
much everything about his past life as a segregationist Democrat.
All of those old Dixiecrats, they didn't switch. There was
no great ideological shift. Democrats were still winning races pretty
consistently in the South up until the nineteen eighties, when

(38:00):
Ronald Reagan was just so insanely popular that he won
every state in nineteen eighty four save for his opponent's
home state. We'll dive into that plus the daily Trump dake.
When The Dan o'donald Show returns, a juneteenth Dan o'donald's
show as America begins, what I think and I have
heard this, I can't take credit for this. What I

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think should be an annual two week celebration of American freedom.
That Juneteenth should not be, as a whole lot of
libs in the immediate post George Floyd Era said, should
replace the fourth of July, although a whole lot of
people do believe that June teenth is the only day
worth celebrating, that America's birthday, even its two hundred and fiftieth,

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is not because we weren't all free, because America is
such an awful, hypocritical nation. You actually heard those sorts
of themes from a former president, Barack Obama, the nation's
first black president, at the dedicated of his Presidential library
in Chicago yesterday, saying that the founders were horrible hypocrites

(39:07):
who could never ever ever live up to the lofty
words and ambitions in the Declaration of Independence and in
the Constitution. But they were smart enough to allow future
generations read us modern day libs to come along and
actually get the nation perfect, that is beyond a revisionist history,

(39:30):
and Juneteenth is a perfect way to illustrate for people
who never ever ever get the actual history of America
how it came to be. The Republican party was the
Party of Abolition. It was expressly founded in Rippon, Wisconsin
in eighteen fifty four as an anti Democrat, anti slavery,
pro abolition party in response to the Kansas Nebraska Act,

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which expanded slavery essentially into the territories and repealed the
Missouri Compromise of eighteen twenty. The South seceded in eighteen
sixty as a direct result of the election of the
first Republican President, Abraham Lincoln, the Civil War, and subsequently

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a couple months later June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five, where
the final slaves in Galveston, Texas were freed, were told
that the war was over. That the Emancipation Proclamation, which
yes was issued by that Republican president in Lincoln and
vehemently opposed by the Democrats slaveholding South, it didn't even

(40:32):
take effect because the South was no longer part of
the United States. They started their own country called the
Confederate States of America. But when that proclamation was read
in Galveston, all Americans were freed, and it was because
of Republican efforts to do so. It was because of
American efforts. All of the people who stayed loyal to

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the Union. Not the Democrats who seceded fought, they sacrificed,
and tens of thousands of them died in the cause
of liberation and freedom. That's something that's sort of brushed
aside in liberal retellings of this history. But the fight

(41:15):
for freedom and equality and liberation, true liberation.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Didn't end there.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
It extended through the reconstruction Arrow, where Democrats formed the
ku Klux Klan and instituted things like poll taxes to
prevent Democrats from voting Republican the newly freed slaves. The
Democrats opposed civil rights, They opposed any effort to get
the federal government involved in allowing schools to be desegregated.

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You had a Dixiecrat Democrat who is actually a Democrat
candidate for president in nineteen sixty eight, George Wallace in
sixty three, as late as sixty three, saying segregation, segregation tomorrow,
segregation forever. There is a pernicious myth that has arisen.

(42:09):
Democrats will say, Okay, yes, Dan, all of what you're
saying is true. And I would love, I would absolutely
love any historian to debate me on anything I have
just said over the last hour about the history of
slavery and abolition and reconstruction in the United States, anyone

(42:31):
the Democratic Party was the party of institutional bigotry in
this country. But Democrats will say with a straight face,
and they will say, and they count on the fact
that this myth has been so pernicious and so widespread
that well, okay, Dan, all of what you're saying may
be true. But the two parties switched. The ideology switched

(42:59):
in the nineteen sixties. All of those old racist Dixiecrats
they became Republicans, and the Democrats they realized the error
of their ways and they became the woke saints that
we know today. And as proof of this they point

(43:19):
to Richard Nixon's Southern strategy in nineteen sixty eight and
the nineteen sixty eight presidential election. LBJ decided not to
run again, so Democrats were basically split once again, just
like a century earlier. They had Northern Democrats and Southern Democrats.
There were two Democrats essentially running for president. Hubert Humphrey

(43:43):
was the official Democrat Party nominee, but George Wallace was
still running in the South. Nixon's Southern strategy was supposedly
the way that Republicans have always used coded language like
law and order to appeal to the racist white Democrats.

(44:06):
Or it could have been that because streets were burning,
there were political assassinations that summer of both Martin Luther
King Junior and Bobby Kennedy Senior. That Nixon really meant, hey,
let's return law and order to the streets. Now, the
supposedly racist Southern strategy that got all of these racist

(44:29):
Southern Democrats to vote for him, well, it failed miserably.
Nixon lost four of the five Southern states that Barry Goldwater,
the Republican nominee, had won four years earlier. George Wallace
won most of them. In fact, in a number of
Southern states, Nixon actually finished third. And oh, by the way,
once he got into the White House, Nixon formally abolished

(44:54):
the practice of allowing separate but equal schools in the South,
segregating races by schools or different facilities or things like that.
It shouldn't have been a surprise, though, that Nixon run one.
You know, ran very competitively in the South. He won

(45:17):
three hundred electoral votes. He was incredibly popular. It wasn't
because of white Southern racism. It was that Richard Nixon
was a very popular, very effective candidate. In nineteen sixty eight,
he carried thirty two states. Four years later, he won
every state except Massachusetts. It was the biggest electoral landslide

(45:40):
up to that point. Now, was it because of racism?
Was it because he was still running this Southern strategy?

Speaker 2 (45:53):
No, of course not.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
It was because he was a very effective president. Here's
the other thing. If the Southern strategy was a real thing,
and it was an appeal to racism that got Nixon
elected in nineteen seventy two, why was it that all
of those racist Southern Republicans also voted to re elect

(46:18):
Democrat senators in Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia. Republicans
gained only eight Southern seats in the House, even though
their presidential candidate won five hundred and twenty electoral votes. Nixon,
of course, resigned in disgrace following the Watergate scandal in
nineteen seventy four. And this was when in nineteen seventy

(46:41):
six you had the emergence of this new Southern Democrat.
Jimmy Carter, swept the South and won the presidency in
nineteen seventy six. Did he run on similarly racist themes
or was he just a better candidate than Gerald Ford was.
Ronald Reagan was actually most responsible for turning the South

(47:06):
into a Republican stronghold because he was so insanely popular.
Carter was such an unmitigated failure that the South and
the rest of the country voted for the charismatic former
actor in nineteen eighty who was then so effective in
his first four year term that he won every single

(47:27):
state except for Minnesota in nineteen eighty four, Southern states,
Northern states, Eastern states, Western states, every state except Minnesota,
where his opponent Walter Mondale was from. It is still
the single biggest electoral landslide ever.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
George W.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Bush won in nineteen hw Bush won in nineteen eighty eight,
essentially promising a third Reagan term.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
But then what happened.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
What happened in the nineteen nineties, two more of those
new southern liberal Democrat politicians built Clinton and al Gore.
They won Southern states. Clinton and Gore actually split the
South pretty much evenly. With HW Bush in nineteen ninety

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two and Bob Dole in nineteen ninety six. Democrats throughout
this period kept on winning elections in the House, the Senate,
gubernatorial elections. Only in two thousand did Southern voters return
to unanimous Electoral College support for a Republican presidential candidate

(48:33):
in George W.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Bush.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
And now the South is very reliably Republican. Florida used
to be a very solid swing state. North Carolina and
Georgia are now swing states. But it was, I think,
and this is my theory, it was nine to eleven
and the surge of American patriotism national security in the

(48:57):
early two thousands that finally delivered the South to Republicans
somewhat permanently. That's in the two thousands. Now, remember Joe
Biden won Georgia, Barack Obama one Georgia, North Carolina, Florida.

(49:17):
He was winning all of the swing states. You didn't
have this sudden switch of ideology spearheaded by Richard Nixon's
Southern strategy. You had a gradual shift. Only one old
racist Southern Democrat, strom Thurman, ever became a Republican. The
others retired or died out. Then, with the rest of

(49:42):
the country getting more progressive, you had Southern Democrats sort
of join the northern Democrats who were already much more
liberal and pro civil rights throughout the nineteen sixties and
nineteen seventies, sort of getting with the times, and that's
where you have the modern political ideological split. It had

(50:03):
nothing to do with racism, absolutely nothing to do with racism.
It has long been a myth that there was any
sort of shift. Democrats also have been in charge of
pretty much every black majority city nearly without any respite

(50:23):
since the early nineteen hundreds. Remember, in the city of
Milwaukee there hasn't been a Republican mayor since nineteenh eight.
Chicago was nineteen thirty two. All of the cities across
the country, with very few exceptions, have not had Detroit,
I believe, was nineteen sixty two the last time there
was a Republican mayor there. So, all of the population

(50:46):
centers where Black Americans are living in the greatest numbers,
there have been huge Democrat majorities, near unanimous, and those
are some of the worst city in America.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
For Black Americans.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Look today, look today, instead of looking back to June nineteenth,
eighteen sixty five, Look at June nineteenth, twenty twenty six.
The city of Milwaukee has the single worst racial disparity
in educational outcomes in the entire country, according to national testing,

(51:26):
that has pushed Wisconsin to worst in the country. The
city of Milwaukee has for decades been considered the single
most racially segregated city in America. Still is today. Milwaukee
is also one of the most dangerous places for Black
Americans to live. Crime rates are sky high. Typically, the

(51:49):
homicide rate for black people dwarfs that of whites in
the city of Milwaukee. In fact, on average, seventy six
to eighty percent of homicide victims in the City of
Milwaukee are black. All of that has been under Democrat
presidents and Republican presidents, Democrat governors and Republican governors. But

(52:11):
one thing has stayed the same. One thing has stayed
constant Democrat leadership in the city of Milwaukee. It has
been violent. It has been an educational wasteland, and it
has been racially segregated, the same sort of segregation that
actually existed by law in the Democrat controlled South all

(52:35):
the way up until the nineteen sixties. It still exists,
it just is in a different form. Democrats say they
aren't the party of racism anymore. They're the anti racists, Well,
why do they say, why do they have and we
just saw this yesterday and their reaction to a Wisconsin

(52:55):
Supreme Court decision striking down race based rants for private
school students, private college and technical college students here in Wisconsin.
Why why do they say? And the response to the
Harvard decision a couple of years ago essentially ending race
based discrimination against white people and in favor of black

(53:18):
and Hispanic Americans, why do they say, Well, we need
to have DEI programs, we need to have affirmative action,
we need to have racial set asides, because it's impossible
to compete on an even playing field. What is the
presupposition there? If you know nothing about, say a college

(53:38):
applicant or a job applicant other than their race. Based
on their race, they must necessarily have a weaker resume,
or they must necessarily have lower test scores of a
lower act in some way, be intellectually or in any
other way inferior to the white or Asian camp. It

(54:00):
doesn't get any more racist than that, Folks. Over the
last hour and twenty minutes, I do hope on this Juneteenth,
as we broke regularly scheduled programming, just a little bit.
I hope you have a better understanding of what it
is that we should actually be celebrating today. It was

(54:25):
indeed in eighteen sixty five freedom for All Americans. I
really do like this suggestion of every year, sort of
like when the Harley Davidson one hundredth back in two
thousand and two, two thousand and three, two thousand and three,
they sort of botched it with Elton John being the headliner,
so then they made it up by having the Harley

(54:45):
Homecoming every single year. I think we start with the
America two fiftieth where it's just like a two week
long celebration. You've got the Great American State Fair, UFC
Fight was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
That kind of kick.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Let's every single year kick off Freedom Fest, a two
week celebration of America's awesomeness with June teenth. End it
with the fourth of July and a bigger and bigger
and bigger fireworks display above the National Mall, and celebrate
freedom for Black Americans, White Americans, all Americans, celebrate all

(55:23):
of us for two straight weeks. Heck, I'm down for
a two week long party. But what Juneteenth is is
in fact a cause for a reflection on what this
country's history actually is, who it was that was actually
fighting for liberation, fighting for freedom, and who it is

(55:44):
today that is trying to cover up their own complicity
in some of the worst evils mankind has ever known
by casting stones from their own glass houses and saying
we're not the racists you are. It has always been
a myth. When we come back here on the Dan

(56:05):
O'Donnell Show, President Trump unveils a new Air Force one
and also gives an update on Iran Daily. Trump Day
coming up next, we do do talk radio different here
on this program. I dare say there is not another
talk show host in America who is going to give
you the extensive history of slavery in this country, abolition, reconstruction,

(56:28):
the Civil rights era, debunk the myth of the Republican
Democrat switch ideologically in the nineteen sixties to try to
paint Republicans as the real racist. Well, yes, yes, Dan,
I am constantly told Democrats did do some terrible things,
but now they're great because there was this there was
a great ideological switch, and now it's Republicans who are

(56:51):
the racists. Nope, it has never been true. The Southern
strategy is almost entirely a myth. Do you want to
know why Richard and ran on law and order and
restoring law and order? This wasn't just a coded language
for racist whites in the South. It's because the sixties

(57:12):
were about the most turbulent era that anybody had ever
seen in this country. Just imagine the most prominent civil
rights leader in America being assassinated and then about a
month later, the Attorney General of the United States and
a very very proba former Attorney General of the United States,

(57:32):
a very very prominent politician who might have been his
party's nominee for president, certainly if he survived. I don't
believe that Kennedy would have actually won the nineteen sixty
eight Democrat nomination, but certainly in nineteen seventy two he
would have been considered the front runner, and Nixon would
have had a very tough fight for reelection instead of

(57:55):
the cakewalk he had over George McGovern.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Just imagine two people like today.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Imagine who would be a prominent someone on par with
Martin Luther King Junior. Well, Jesse Jackson passed away a
few months ago. I don't want to say Al Sharpton
but it would be okay. We had a high profile
assassination unfortunately, the political assassination of Charlie Kirk on September

(58:21):
tenth of last year. Imagine on October tenth Gavin Newsom
was also assassinated, or AOC or someone who is considered
to be a potential front runner for the presidential nomination JD.
Vance or Marco Ruby or somebody like that. This country

(58:43):
would have been plunged into.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
A lot of chaos. I fear.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Now, imagine all of this is going on and you
have got a skyrocketing crime rate. The crime rate was
three times as high as it is today. Streets were
just war zones. You had the hippie movement, counterculture movement
changing everything about youth culture. You had a huge youth

(59:12):
and their parents divide. I mean that the greatest generation,
silent generation of their kids.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
I mean, it was just a.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Massive cultural shift. All of this was going on, and
crime was out of control, and Nixon was saying, hey,
let's retake our streets.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Order in the streets.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
It's like they try to pin this this same sort
of idea on President Trump, that Trump is engaged in
a new Southern strategy and it's all racial dog whistling.
This guy was being given awards by Jesse Jackson, for
goodness sakes. It's a very recent phenomenon that Donald Trump
is this horrible racist. Somehow he managed to go his

(59:51):
entire first oh, I don't know, seventy years or so,
being beloved by Democrats of all races.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
He was like a belove figure in New York.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
And then all of a sudden he becomes a Republican politician,
and wouldn't you know it, You've got a whole lot
of women coming out of the woodwork to accuse him
of all sorts of sexual devans when he's running against
Bill Clinton's wife, and then he is accused of racism
from the very same people who are celebrating him just
a couple of years earlier. It is also phony, it's

(01:00:23):
all so transparent, and it is all so dishonest coming
from the left. All right, let's get the truth about
what happened today at the White House.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Technically, Joint Bass Andrews. It is your daily Trump day.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
We're gonna win so much you may even get.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Tired of winning. Trump just keeps winning. It is a
win for the administration.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
It's also a big win for the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
We have to keep winning.

Speaker 6 (01:00:48):
We have to win.

Speaker 7 (01:00:49):
Boar.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
We're gonna win boar.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Daily Trump Daytime, and President Trump unveiled his brand new
Air Force one gift from the Kataris, and he actually
gave the press a tour of it. But he also
provided an update on the straight of horror Moves, the
memorandum of understandings that it was signed last night. The
Iranians at the last second pulled out of a signing ceremony,

(01:01:18):
and the belief was that they were going to renege
on the deal over tensions between Israel and Lebanon. But
it seems as though the strait of horror moves is open.
The naval blockade is still over as of this moment.
And President Trump praised the Memorandum of understanding today.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
And now we have an agreement that was signed last
night and it's sixty days.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I have to make a deal.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
Otherwise we will do things that won't make them happy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
But I don't think it's going to get to that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
I think it's going to be very good. Remember, if
we do that, then all of a sudden, you're not
going to have the oil flowing out of the Strait
too quickly, because people that own billion dollar ships don't
love missiles flying over them, don't love mines all over
the water. And this is going to be amazing what's
happening now, because we have the greatest economy that we've
ever had.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
We certainly do, and President Trump said it's only going
to get better because the Strait is now open, Traffic
is going to be flowing through it by a greater
and greater amount every single day, and the price of
oil is going to continue to plow.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Ships are flowing out of the harm move straight like
nobody's ever seen before. Actually, there were a lot of
about seven hundred of them, and they're pouring out. The
oil is all over the place. You're going to see oil.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Drop so low. I hope the companies are happy about it.
But we have a lot of victories.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
We had a great victory in Venezuela, where we're now
doing really well with the government. The big companies are
all in there, the oil companies, they're building rigs, and
we've paid for that war many many times over. We're
running it and again we have a fantastic relationship with
the people of Venezuela and Venezuela has become a happy country.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
And the President wants obviously that to happen in Iran.

Speaker 6 (01:03:09):
Two.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
As I have been saying all week and really for
the last couple of months, these are related conflicts. It
is all about the broader geopolitical chess match against China,
the new battlefield on which these two nations are competing
as AI it's supercomputing, its space, and all of it.
The war of the future is dependent on access to oil,

(01:03:31):
which President Trump is essentially kneecapping China's ability to get
cheap oil from previously hostile nations to United States interests
in Venezuela and Iran. The President then took members of
the press on a tour of his new Air Force
one and got off a pretty hilarious line about them

(01:03:52):
actually being happy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
There will never be one like this.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
This is very unique. This is considered the world's most
luxurious plan is built.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
It was built at a level.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
That will probably never be seen again. And if the
press would like, I don't know if it's gonna help
me with stories. I don't think there'll be any different.
But what we're gonna do is we're gonna take you
for just a quick tour. The press is actually gonna
Oh look at them, they're actually smiling.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Are you smiling?

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
The first time I've seen them smiling years. They don't
smile at Republicans. They should smile at Republicans because we're
the ones that make America grace.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Couldn't have said it any better myself. That, ladies and gentlemen,
your daily Trump Day Dan O'Donnell's show back after this,
coming up in the five o'clock hour, we have some
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take over the show.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
And I have no idea what you are about to say.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
We simply spin the wheel and wherever it lands, that's
where the program goes. And we want to hear from
you four one, four seven, nine to nine, eleven thirty
on our Carpetland Usay, Flooring Center, Talk and text line.
Governor ever Is issued in executive order in April creating
the Commutation Advisory Board, and he named his eight appointees today.

(01:05:22):
They are very, very controversial. Now, what these people are
going to do is to determine whose sentence gets commuted.
If there are people who have even committed murder. These
people will determine whether they get out of prison. Governor

(01:05:43):
Evers has the power to commute state prison sentences and
the people that he has selected. According to our analysis
over at the Heartland Post, the Pix lean heavily toward
criminal justice re form advocates, defense attorneys, re entry activists,

(01:06:05):
and even an ex con. Biggest name on this list
is probably Judge Mary Anne Sumi. That name sound familiar.
It should if you remember the fight over Act ten.
She was at Dane County Circuit Court judge until she
retired in twenty fourteen. In twenty eleven, she issued the

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ruling that blocked and later voided major parts of Act ten.
The Wisconsin Supreme Court, of course, ruled that she impermissibly
usurped legislative authority and declared her orders null envoid. From
the very start, this was textbook judicial activism from Sumi,

(01:06:51):
and that was sort of the defining ruling of her
entire judicial career. More recently, there is Republican appointee Ashland
County District Attorney Scott Walker. He served for four years.
In twenty twenty three, he declined to charge former Democratic

(01:07:14):
State Senator Janet Beuley in a fatal crash that killed
a mother and her young child. The attorney here, David Meani,
was accused by investigators of insufficient analysis of the evidence.
Mini said there was insufficient evidence for criminal charges. Although Beuley,

(01:07:39):
it was documented, was on the phone with a reporter
at the time. She was on the phone with a
journalist for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and had had cataract
surgery a couple of days before the crash. Now Mimi said, Nope,
it was the other driver's excessive speed.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Well, what did we just.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Learn in the acquittal of the woman from West Alice
in that crash that killed the two Marquette lacrosse players
that you can have the driver of the car that
the lacrosse players were in be negligent, but also a
woman who is drunk and high be criminally culpable as well.

(01:08:16):
Just as the deceased in the Janet Buley case was
going at a very high rate of speed. Beuley turned
out in front of her because she was both distracted
doing an interview with a Journal Sentinel reporter and had
not been I believe now I've gotten conflicting information on this.

(01:08:37):
I don't believe she should have been driving because she
had just had cataract surgery so recently. Another name on
this board Jerome Dillard, who is the co founder and
former executive director of EXPO Wisconsin X Incarcerated People Organizing.
Of course, this is a group focused on re entry support,

(01:08:57):
parole reform, voting rights restoration for felons, and reducing mass
incarceration read get as many people out of prison as possible.
Dillard himself served a significant amount of time in both
Wisconsin prisons and federal prisons for nonviolent felonies forgery, bail jumping,

(01:09:20):
all of his crimes I believe were committed in the
nineteen nineties. Former Madison Police Chief Noble Ray. He led
the US DOJ Policing Practices initiatives and trained agencies on
fair and impartial policing. He was a consultant on the

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Jacob Blake shooting, but he actually determined rather surprisingly that
officers did use appropriate force in that shooting. There is
Kathy Byrne Stilling, state public defender, private criminal defense practice
for thirty years. She was a Waukeshaw County Circuit Court

(01:10:05):
judge for maybe a year and a half Jonathan Sharer.
He is the director of the Restorative Justice Project at
UW Law School. I can tell you as an alum
of UW Law School, the Restorative Justice Project is a
collection of the most liberal attorneys and want to be
attorneys that you will ever, ever, ever fine. Jerry Siegel.

(01:10:31):
She has been at the Family Support Center in the
Chippewa Valley. Nonprofit provides counseling and advocacy for survivors of
domestic violence and sexual assault cat CO smally. She has
a policy analyst at the Wisconsin Department of Children and Families.
She was a child protection case manager in Columbia County.

(01:10:53):
And all of these people are very, very left wing.
All I think can be liably expected to lean very
heavily toward commutation for the vast majority of people who
apply for it. And really, ladies and gentlemen, kind of
par for the course for a governor in Tony Evers

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who actually came into office with a promise in twenty
eighteen to reduce Wisconsin's prison population by half. Look for
in the final few months of his term him to
finally do it through commutations. And these are the people
that are going to make that happen. The Dan O'Donnell
show will be right back after this. I was just

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going through some of our texts and emails. Thank you
all for the kind words about my history lesson on
June teenth.

Speaker 6 (01:11:46):
I just.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Santaiana, George Santaiana the Philosopher said it best. Those who
do not learn history are condemned to forever repeat it.
And I believe there is a conscious effort in this
country not to teach us the true history of who
we are, and in particular slavery, abolition and everything that

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came after, because it makes Democrats look really, really, really bad.
And that's why we spent so much time talking about.
We spent so much time talking about We didn't get
a chance to do this in the three o'clock hour.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Let's do this now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
It's time to name the unhinged liberal of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Germany is dangerous because he's evil.

Speaker 6 (01:12:45):
America.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Today's unhinged liberal of the day is a woman by
the name of doctor Freto.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
She is a racial experts.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
I guess she was a guest on the joy Read
podcast in response to that Mma fighter at the UFC
two to fifty event, making fun of Michelle Obama and screaming,
Michelle Obama is a man, isn't that right, America. Well,
she didn't just say this is in poor taste or
it's racist or anything like that. She said it was

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so bad that it gave black women heart attacks.

Speaker 8 (01:13:25):
So my heart having computations, I felt my chest tightened.
I felt personally humiliated as a black woman, as for
a sady Michelle Obama is. And that it took me
immediately joy to the data that we have. We literally
have data that systemic racism, chronic discrimination, and also public humiliation.

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We have data that these things increase cardiovascular negative outcomes.
And as I sat there experiencing those emotions, I know
I'm not alone. I realized this is what happens. This
is why so many black people, and black women's specifically
half poorer cardiovascular outcomes when compared to other ethnic groups.
This is why so many of us have increased strokes.

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It actually is real.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
No, actually it isn't at all.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
This might not shock you, but doctor Frita is not
a medical doctor. The reason that cardiovascular events are so
prevalent in African American women is because African American women
have higher rates of obesity. That's not racism, not systemic bigotry.

(01:14:33):
It has a lot to do with nutrition and not
enough exercise. It is a real problem that there are
elevated risks for stroke, for heart attack.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
For all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
But to blame racism, to blame the MMA guy making
fun of Michelle Obama, Doctor Freedom is your unhinged liberal
of the day. We have data that shows systemic races.
I would love to see a single doctor's report. I
would love to see, like a coroner's report, cause of death,

(01:15:08):
heart attack caused by systemic racism. Unfortunately, this woman happened
to have the TV on when that guy called Michelle
Obama a man, and she just keeled over, dropped dead
of a heart attack. At just fundamental unseriousness coming from

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the left. Now, I'm not going to say the show
becomes fundamentally unserious at five o'clock on a Friday. In fact,
we do talk about a lot of substantive issues. But
I actually turned the show over to you. It's sort
of like Rush's open Line Friday, only with a twist.
We are going to screen your calls to make sure
that you're not saying anything crazy. But I'm gonna have

(01:15:48):
no idea what it is you're talking about your producer.
My producer is not going to tell me it's talk
radio roulette. We simply spin the wheel wherever it lands.
That's what we talk about. The show, as they say,
is yours. Give me a call right now, four one, four, seven,
eleven thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Will talk to you after the top of the hour News.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Five o'clock on a Friday, although I suspect a good
percentage of you have already been off. Thanks to America's
newest federal holiday, Juneteenth. Spent a lot of time on
the Dan o'donald Show talking about the history of that
and why it is a great American holiday, and it

(01:16:30):
does celebrate liberation, freedom, all of it, and it is
a perfect opportunity to explain exactly how America of today
came to be. And it is a whole lot of
hard work by Republicans in the abolitionist movement and a

(01:16:51):
whole lot of opposition by Democrats. All Right, So we
have had a busy broadcast week, I can tell you
that much. And in the five o'clock hour on a Friday,
we I don't want to say we take it easy
a bit, but we try to have some fun and
we will get to talk radio Roulette, how bizarre, and
a whole lot of other stuff. There is there a

(01:17:14):
statute of limitations on not providing spoilers for the Team
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In fact, I've been on about five thousand group texts
today regarding it, and someone was saying, don't text anything

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a bit of a gamble right now, maybe not with
my life, possibly with my career, FCC license, all of it,
as we play talk radio Roulette.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Here's how it works.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
I am going to open up the phone line and
if you would like to call four one four us
have a nine nine eleven thirty on our Carpetland USA
talk and text line. I have no idea what any
of the callers we are about to put on are
going to say. The floor is theirs. They can ask
me any question. They can bring up any topic. It
can have anything to do with anything we've talked about

(01:19:21):
at any point this.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Week or not.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Sort of like open Line Friday, but with a big, wild,
random twist in that we simply roll the Roulette wheel
and pick a.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Caller at random. Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Let's start with Scott up first on Talk Radio Roulette.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Welcome to it, Scott, Hey, Dan.

Speaker 6 (01:19:43):
Good talking to you again. I want to talk to
you about candidates and social media. This kind of this
issue kind of crosses party lines. Do you think it's
to get your thoughts on this, like the grand Platner thing. Yea,

(01:20:05):
how the right's going after him, and do you think
it's really necessary we should go back as far as
you know, years and years when he should when he
had no intention in running for office.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
So you're saying, if there's right, there should there be
a statute of limitations on when we can go back. Well,
it sort of depends on what the bad behavior is.
I mean, it's one thing. The classic example of this
is sort of Josh Hater, Right, does everybody remember the
former Brewers closer In twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, he's pitching

(01:20:43):
in the MLB All Star Game, and his old tweets
from when he was in like eighth grade resurface, and
he's quoting rap lyrics in which he's using the N word,
and of course everybody's upset, and he had to do
a big apology. I believe he had to go to
counseling or whatever re education camp they made him go to.

(01:21:05):
And that's one of those things where it's like, Okay,
Graham Platner has a totin cough Nazi skull tattooed on
his chest that he had for twenty years and only
got covered up because it was becoming a major political liability.

(01:21:27):
He's not accused of just bad tweets. He's accused of
spousal abuse or at least domestic abuse with a former
girlfriend grabbing her so hard by the shoulder that he
left a mark. False imprisonment, which, by the way, in
most states is a felony. He locked a former girlfriend

(01:21:50):
in a bedroom all night so she couldn't leave him.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
That's literally a crime.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
So no, I don't believe there should be any sort
of uh, you know, end date on what all of this.
Your entire life, unfortunately is subject to public scrutiny when
you run for public office. So no, I don't believe
there is any real end to when people can go

(01:22:17):
back and look through your personal life. It's unfortunate, but
it is the reality of politics. Steve up next on
talk radio or let what's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
Steve dan Oh? I love your show, Thank you, So no,
I hear so much about this As a fact, I
beat out and all that elections on a lection proud
but otskay regular regularly going on? Can you just run
independently and still beat out the two liberals run in

(01:22:46):
or doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
No, he'd have no chance because he didn't qualify for
the ballot. So what what Los Angeles has and all
of California has is what's known as an open or
jungle primary, and that means that the top two vote
getters in the primary, regardless of party, move on to
the general election. So you can have a general election

(01:23:07):
where there is a Democrat on the ballot against another
Democrat on the ballot, And that's what's happening in the
LA mayor's race. Pratt can no longer qualify for the
ballot since he didn't come out of that primary. He
can write in he could be say a registered right in,
but practically speaking, no, there is no chance that he

(01:23:27):
is going to win the mayoral election. He's already basically conceded.
Up next is Kathy on Talk Radio Roulette.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
What's going on? Kathy?

Speaker 4 (01:23:40):
Up?

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
Do I have this right? Kathy?

Speaker 9 (01:23:42):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
It looks like we got to spin that wheel again.
And we go next to is this who do we
have here on line three?

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
This is Kathy?

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Okay, now we have Kathy. All right, Kathy, welcome to
Talk Radio Roulette.

Speaker 6 (01:23:57):
Hi.

Speaker 10 (01:23:59):
Here's the thing about the word liberal. I think they've
kind of hijacked the word because liberal means not narrow
in opinion, and these people that say they're liberal, I
don't see them being narrow, you know, I see them

(01:24:20):
being narrow in opinion and judgment. They're not. I call
them other things, but I can't say that on the radio.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
You know, this is me.

Speaker 10 (01:24:29):
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
Well, there's there's really been nothing liberal about liberals, and
nothing progressive about progressive and nothing particularly democratic about the
Democratic Party. People get to choose their names. We are conservatives.
I think Democrats would prefer that we are reactionaries. But no,

(01:24:51):
there's really I don't think anybody really if the twenty
twenties censorship era didn't prove that to you, that the
Democratic Party the liberals are not now. Back in the
nineteen sixties, back in the nineteen seventies, you did the
free love, free expression era. Yes, those were true liberals.

(01:25:17):
Today's really have nothing to do far away. They're socialists.
I mean, let's just be totally honest here, they're socialists.
We spin the wheel again and it lands in Madison,
where we find Kevin.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
Kevin, Welcome to Talk Radio Roulette.

Speaker 11 (01:25:35):
Hey, how you doing, Dan Good?

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
What's going on, Kevin.

Speaker 11 (01:25:39):
My question would be kind of along the lines of
what you were talking about earlier about the history of slavery,
but it would be more focused on what you feel
the true reasoning would be in regards to the descendants
of black slaves not being offered reparation and further bondage.

(01:26:01):
When we've had Native Americans who've never been in true
bondage in this country, who've been given land, casinos, you know, royalty, Well, those.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Were organized, Those were organized treaties with the United States government.
They weren't just given them through an act of conference.
That was actually a treaty that was negotiated.

Speaker 11 (01:26:22):
I understand why why is there no such treaty available
to Black Americans?

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Well, because Black Americans do not constitute a separate nation,
as say the various tribes do, so that that sort
of knocks out the treaty idea. But I think your
broader question is why don't we have reparations? Why don't
we have so you are are you the descendant of

(01:26:49):
a of a slave?

Speaker 11 (01:26:52):
Who knows? But I'm a black man in America, there's
no way to know. Because of the situation and the
history of our country.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
Well, then, why would you why would you think that
you're hold on a sec though, Kevin, Why would you
think you're deserving of reparations if you can't demonstrate that
your ancestors were actually.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
The victims of slavery?

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Black Dan Okay, Well, dem so is the entire Nigerian Socrates.

Speaker 11 (01:27:19):
Someone in my past was a slave, And you say that, isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
It equally likely, though, that someone in your past.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
Isn't it equally likely.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Kevin, that someone in your past moved to this country
post slavery in order to get the benefit of the
something from the United States government? Kevin, It is actually
insanely unconstitutional to say I get this simply because my
skin is black, And your argument seems to be because

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I am black and you are not, I deserve reparations
even though I can't actually prove that I am the
descendant of someone who is a victim of slavery. That
actually violates, ironically enough, the equal protection clause.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Of the Fourteenth Amendment.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
And there was actually just yesterday a race based hold
on a set Kevin, that actually ties into yesterday. There
was a court ruling by the Wisconsin Supreme Court that
actually just found that what you're talking about, exactly, a
government benefit of scholarship based solely on the color of

(01:28:27):
one's skin is on constitutional? You're trying to interrupt. So
I'm actually going to humor.

Speaker 11 (01:28:31):
Now what the history of this country, sir?

Speaker 6 (01:28:33):
Not?

Speaker 11 (01:28:33):
What the history of this country?

Speaker 6 (01:28:35):
Now?

Speaker 11 (01:28:35):
What the history of this country?

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
I don't I don't know. I don't know what I'm
telling you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
I'm telling you what the fourteenth Amendment, Kevin, Kevin, hold on?
What does what does the equal protection clause of the
fourteenth Amendment say? You don't need to quote it, but
just generally.

Speaker 11 (01:28:52):
You're trying.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Actually we are literally, we are literally talking about equal protection.

Speaker 11 (01:29:00):
Been repaired in this country, as have many other groups
who have been Which ones, you know, trespassed upon by
the white man in this country?

Speaker 12 (01:29:09):
Which other groups Americans who there were reparations for?

Speaker 6 (01:29:13):
Hold On?

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
Hold On, what were the what were the Chinese? What
were the Chinese reparations, Kevin? What was the Chinese reparations?
I'd love to hear your ideas about this.

Speaker 11 (01:29:22):
You've had railroad workers who have been repaired, You've already
had that happen. Then in this country, you Native Americans
who have never been slaves in this, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Kevin, are we there?

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
I feel like I'm kind of like banging my head
against the wall. You got the idea, like you have
as as like a general as like a general concept, Kevin,
you have the concept that individual tribes were treated as
sovereign nations by the government. They were given last not

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two hundred years later. Not Hey, you know what we're
gonna do. We're going to say, we're going to give
just random Native Americans, even if you can't prove that
you are a Native American, even if you can't prove,
like we're going to just give Elizabeth Warren a casino
two hundred years later.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
That's what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
Native Americans were repaired and not technically the correct use
of that term, but I'll.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Let it slide.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
These were the actual people who negotiated treaties with the
United States government, not one hundred and fifty years later,
when people who like you are unable to prove that
anyone in their ancestry was ever impacted by this simply
by saying something grossly unconstitutional, I am black ergo I

(01:30:45):
deserve this from the federal government. That is the dictionary
definition of a Fourteenth Amendment equal Protection clause violation, which
ironically violates the entire spirit and the letter of the
law that was established to protect freed black men and
black women, all black people, all people following the end

(01:31:09):
of the Civil War. The Thirteenth Amendment was obviously what
freed the slaves was slavery is abolished. The Fourteenth Amendment, though,
is the basis upon which the concept of American equality
actually does rest.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
It's sort of unfair.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
I took an entire class in law school if you
can believe this on the Fourteenth Amendment.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
That's how important it is.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
The idea of reparations to pay somebody based on a
grievance against somebody else, first of all, violates the fundamental
tenet that, okay, well, who has to pay the United
States got to all of us. We have to pay
to whom, to anybody with black skin. So let's say

(01:31:59):
somebody who just came here from Nigeria, Nigerian immigrant, they
get reparations based on the color of their skin.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
I just you know, I boy, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
Let's keep it going with talk radio roulette. I just
wonder if I was playing cards with somebody who was
a few shy of a deck anyway, always entertaining you'll
be interested to know, ladies and gentlemen, that our last
caller is heavily implying on our text line that I
hung up on him because of racism, not that he

(01:32:34):
had been on way longer than I think any of
us have the patience to deal with.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
That's what you get on talk radio Roulette, though.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
We open it up to any caller, every caller, and
we don't even screen them. We go back to the
phones and no, seriously, he's texting and saying I've never
heard you hang up on and I hang up on
every caller.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
It's kind of how talk radio works.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
I'm actually perpetually amazed at liberal's inability to actually deal
in like actual facts. Can I just real quick this
same guy, I'm sorry, Bernie will get to you in
a second. Same guy, literally, same guy called up while
I was doing my like history of the KKK. He

(01:33:18):
said the KKK, He told my producer the KKK was
not actually founded by Southern Democrats but by Republicans in Indiana.
I don't even know what to do with that. I
don't even know what to say to that, Like how
do you even respond to people who are that delusionally stupid?

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
And I'm sorry, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
I don't want to be insulting, but it's like it
just it made me think and I kind of in
like real time, like how bad is liberal propaganda that
you've got people believing things that are just so fundamentally
untrue and have such cognitive dissonance that they can't accept
the things that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Are when with him?

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
All right, Bernie and Cottage Grove up next on talk
radio lett here on the Dan O'donnald Show.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
It's going on, Bernie, Hey, how you doing.

Speaker 13 (01:34:09):
Now that we got you all wound up, I'm gonna
take you in a totally different direction, maybe uh at
more of a calmer topic, and that is the Iran
peace deal.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
Yes, clearly non controversial and well done, Well done, Bernie.
What's going on?

Speaker 9 (01:34:30):
You know?

Speaker 13 (01:34:31):
I have my reservations about the deal stemming Mace basically
from my mistrust of the Iranians and uh, you know,
on the surface, it appears to me that we are
giving them a B, C and D in exchange for
a promise. Now my concerns are I have to keep

(01:34:51):
in mind the fact that despite all this, the world
is much safer in terms of Iran than under Trump,
and it would have been with any other president. So
I acknowledge that. And so my question to you is,
what are your concerns about this latest peace deal.

Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
The exact same concerns that you have, that the Iranians
just will not honor any deal whatsoever, that we can
do anything, give them anything, promise them anything, threaten them
with anything, and they're going to do what they're going
to do. And a big part of this is because
the Iranian regime it's always, i think misinterpreted to be

(01:35:33):
insanely strong amongst its people. It is always every couple
of years there's a popular uprising that really seems to
get it teetering on the brink of collapse. Well, the
Ayatola is dead and now his gay, mutilated Sun is
apparently the new Ayatola, and the regime has never been weaker.

(01:35:58):
They're always in fear of a popular uprise. So what
they always have to do is to project strength to
their people. The way they do that is through defiance
of the Great Satan. The United States. Now will cooler,
more rational heads prevail and in order to keep their
heads quite literally, they actually do what the United States says,

(01:36:21):
and they do what they say they're going to do.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
It's entirely possible. Is it likely?

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
Forty seven years of Iranian intransigence and evil say it's not.
I have my severe doubts. I understand what the purpose
of the deal is. I think it's about as good
a deal as we could have possibly asked for. But
that said, you're still negotiating with people who are I think,

(01:36:51):
incapable of negotiating in good faith. We will They wheel again,
and we go to Madison, where we find Mark Mark
up next on talk radio Roulette.

Speaker 9 (01:37:04):
Dan, Happy Friday, Happy Father's Day.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
You sir, Oh you too, if you're a father, sir.

Speaker 9 (01:37:10):
Thank you so. Questions for you, what do you think
is more boring or alternatively more exciting a one nil
soccer game or a one zero baseballer hockey game?

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
Oh that's you're putting me on the spot.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
You're gonna You're gonna get me called a comedy in
front of my entire audience. Look, I grew up playing soccer.
I have coached soccer literally since before I even had kids.
I started as an assistant coach with my younger brother,
whos about eleven years younger than me. I am a
diehard soccer fan. I think soccer, I just I love
the sport. I also have loved baseball. I was the

(01:37:48):
Brewers postgame host for years. I love that team. I
love the sport. Hockey is just inherently exciting because the
play just moves so fast. Out of the three sports,
I'm probably least attached to it, although I did probably
play it almost as much as soccer growing up. Albeit
I was a nineties kid, so we played roller hockey

(01:38:08):
like you know, Wayne's World.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
Everybody's gonna hate me.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
Unless it's Jacob Miseroski striking out fifteen batters and facing
the minimum in a complete game, one hitter. I'm gonna
say probably a one nothing baseball game. The caveat being
if it's a playoff game and it's a one nothing
baseball game, it does not get more tense. Oh that's
a real tough one. What is the most boring out
of those three? I'm gonna say baseball, but it's got

(01:38:36):
to be like a meaningless game in mid June. If
it's a one to zero playoff game, it's it's very exciting.
I just I'm never gonna say. I know you people
want me to say soccer is boring.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
I love soccer too much. Mike in mechwan up next
on talk radio Roulette.

Speaker 12 (01:38:54):
Good afternoon, Dan, Happy Father's Day, Team.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
You too, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
If you are indeed a father, I can't you know,
I totally forgot this Sunday was Father's Day.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
You know, it's a heaven forbid if any of us
forget Mother's Day. Uh No, my wife is gone and
my wife was actually asking me today what I want
for father.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
I'm like, I don't know. It's like, what do you
want to do on Father's Day? I don't know. Is
sleeping until four pm? An option? No, I honest to goodness,
spend time with the family. Whatever. I'm sorry, I'm horning
in on your time, Mike. What do you got for me?

Speaker 9 (01:39:30):
Well?

Speaker 13 (01:39:30):
Just quick?

Speaker 12 (01:39:31):
And then I got a major question before. Okay, if
I say something, If I say something and then after
I make a statement say that's a fact, does that
make it affect That's rhetorical. But anyway, my question is why,
since you're such a great fan and knowledgeable of the Constitution,
and you got me to look this up. Why haven't
you explained that Washington DC can never be a state?

Speaker 10 (01:39:55):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
I thought I had. I thought I had, Mike, Uh, because, okay, yeah,
it can't. You can never yeah about it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
Oh, it is DC statehood. It is the fact that
Democrats talk about. This is a great example. Like when
we had our caller, who I actually do like quite
a bit. Usually he's he's a bit he's a bit
better he was. He was a bit wound up and
just would not I see what he's saying. And I
could be sympathetic even to the argument for reparations, for

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reparations like one hundred and fifty years ago to the
slaves themselves or the children in any event, what I'm
talking about when I say people believe things that are
just fundamentally untrue. It is constitutionally impermissible to make a
new state by carving up territory from another state. Washington,
d C. Was carved up from existing states. In fact,

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it was made the District of Columbia in a great
bargain between Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson and James Madison
in exchange for the creation of the Federal Reserve system.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
And this was eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
Or maybe it was seventeen late seventeen hundreds, that was
set aside, like the District of Columbia exists outside of
the states. And do you know the reason, Actually, it's
a fascinating story. Do you know the reason that Washington,
DC is not part of any state?

Speaker 12 (01:41:25):
Because I didn't want to give the nations capital the
one that's it exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
And do you know what taught them that was there
was basically a riot. I think it was at the
second it was at the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia. Well,
there were a whole bunch of revolutionary war veterans who
weren't paid, and they basically set upon the delegates to
the Constitutional Convention, and the local police just basically kind

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of let it happen. And then the delegates said, hey,
wait a second, if we don't have adequate protection and
an area that the federal government can essentially control, we are,
as you said, Mike, going to be at the mercy
of another state's government. And we can't have the federal
government in any way be sort of subservient to an
individual state. It just kind of makes a good constitutional sense,

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all right, Can we bang out these last couple of calls,
because we've got.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
To go quickly and you do need to get to
how bizarre.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
Let's go to Sean listening in a car. You are
up next on the Dan O'Donnell show.

Speaker 14 (01:42:31):
Good afternoon, sir. My question is regarding the current legislature
and the hopefully not the possibility of a trifecta. The
legislature basically has really fallen very short of very conservative values,
and the slogan right now is well, we stuck left
to the Democrats. What can the legislature of people doing

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going for assembly or helping people out try to change that?

Speaker 6 (01:42:59):
Going go to door So.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
You're saying, as like a Republican party door knocker have
a different message than hey we suck less.

Speaker 7 (01:43:09):
Yeah, or just people talking to people who might be
voting and just oh okay, okay, So yeah, all right,
So how do we get away from sort of the
milk toast.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
We're still going to be in the pockets of the lobbyists,
as evidenced by the online gambling bill and the nil bill.
Tom Tiffany is a conservative and he is a conservative reformer.
Tiffany is not a Madison or Washington swamp creature. He

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actually is someone who will bring conservative reform. When he
says this is going to be a choice between common
sense and crazy, I think that's pretty much all you
need to know right now. That sounds like, Okay, we
suck less, we're not crazy. What he's saying is, however,
is we are going to return common sense executive action

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to Madison. In fact, I think there is nothing you
need to tell people other than, Hey, you don't like
how Madison works. You don't like how Washington works. Do
you know what Tiffany's biggest campaign promise is right now?
He is going to immediately audit every single department of
state government. Every single department of the executive branch in

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state government is going to be immediately audited.

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
And he fundamentally.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
Has that as an ironclad promise and policy action point.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
That to me is the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
If you want to get the corruption, the bureaucratic mess
out of Madison, elect Tom Tiffany. Elect Republicans. They don't
just suck less. They will get the suck out of
this state. How about that for a How about that
for a slogan? They'll get the suck out of the state. Hey,
speaking of Madison.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
We've got is it? Ke kell it? You are our
final caller on talk radio Roulette this week. What's going on, buddy?

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:45:06):
Thanks Dan.

Speaker 15 (01:45:07):
I appreciate you taking my call, and I love the
analogy there, the suck of whatever. You know, we'll go
ahead and drain the swamp eventually before twenty twenty eight.
But I wanted to talk a little bit about the
gas prices. I've heard the national average is under four
dollars a gallon now, so thank god, it's back to
what it was in December. This memorandum of understanding.

Speaker 1 (01:45:28):
Oh, we're hold on. We're still not back to where
we were in December. We were at under two. We
got a long ways to go. But I see what
you're saying. I see what you're saying.

Speaker 15 (01:45:38):
We're on the way down.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
We are on the way down.

Speaker 15 (01:45:39):
Understanding though, we've got an achievable final deal of sixty
days of mutual consent, so whatever that means. There's a
lot of extra jargon going on there.

Speaker 5 (01:45:50):
Dan.

Speaker 15 (01:45:50):
My question for you is what does the relationship between
the West, also known as the superpower of you know,
the United States and Iran look like five years from now? Right,
we got our sixty day understanding. Five years from now,
where do we sit?

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
That is such a good question.

Speaker 11 (01:46:09):
Where do we sit?

Speaker 15 (01:46:10):
Because you know today is today, tomorrow's tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
Yeah, we.

Speaker 15 (01:46:15):
Got the election coming up. What does five years from
now look like? Thanks for sticking my.

Speaker 1 (01:46:17):
Call that, Uh, that is really an incredible question, Kellen,
And unfortunately I'm going to have to give I swear
this is not just a cop out like it's impossible
to know, uh, but it kind of is. I mean, Iran,
at least right now, is sending signals that ultimately it's

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going to comply. But as I said, it's got to
save face with its own people. It's got to always
project strength, otherwise there will be popular uprisings that could
theoretically lead to the downfall of the people who are
currently in power. So is there going to be uh
tit for tat over the straight of horror moves? Is

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there going to be?

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
Ultimately, I hope, this is my hope, and this is
I think where we're ultimately moving, that Iran gets to
a place where they see the rest of their neighbors
in the Middle East signing on to the Abraham Accords,
getting into the twentieth first century with respect to international

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relationships and commerce. That they abandon not the Islamic law
that underpins their society, although that would obviously be ideal,
but they underpin the hardline radicalism that's been a hallmark
of the people in charge forever, and that eventually, maybe

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not in five years, we.

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
Get back to the Persian.

Speaker 1 (01:47:50):
State that was always it was defined by this thousands
of year old tradition rather than the Islamic definition of
self that Iran has. Now, what that means is that
you have people in charge just like the people who
have been oppressed forever, who are much more open to

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cooperation across the broader Middle East. And it is my
sincere hope, and it is my sincere belief that in
five years you've got a Middle East that is much
more cooperative with the West, because it's much more of
a partner with the West. And this is why the
liberals have been going nuts about this Katari plane, the
air force one the Amra of Qatar gave to President

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Trump as a gift. This was something that helped solidify
the relationship that President Trump tried to build, not just
with Qatar, not just with the amoradis not just with
the Saudis, but to sort of unite this coalition against Iran,
to isolate Iran amongst its Gulf state neighbors, so that

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it was much easier to do what we did in
first taking out Bordo, destroying the nuclear weapons program, and
then ultimately taking out the top echelon of the Iranian regime.
If there is any inkling, I think that Iran is
going to backslide or that they're not going to sign

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onto this, I believe that the powers that be right
now will be taken out. I believe carn Island will
be taken out. I believe Iran will exist as something
of a vassal state for the United States, as Venezuela does.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
There is autonomy for the Venezuelan government under the former
Vice President Dulci Rodriguez. But make no mistake, she exists
as president and is not in a United States prison
because she is doing everything the United States government tells
her to do. Ultimately, if that's where we need to
get to with Iran, that's where we get to.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
Fantastic calls today, Talk Radio Roulette, always a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
All Right, This ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
Is why I love our listener texting with our caller
Kevin from Madison, and he I said, hey, you know
what I was. I was a little out of line.
I apologize that was you know. He goes, Dan, you
know I love you. You're not racist, and I still
think you're different than most of America.

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
He goes, you're not racist.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
No girls soccer coach could ever be like, yeah, that's
that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
Is that happy father is? I know.

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
I do love disagreements, It just it's on the issue
of like facts.

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
This is the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
This is where I really do and you know, I
do lose my patience when it's like it's okay to
argue so long as we do have an agreed upon
set of facts and if it's like and I don't
blame Like, look, folks, I sit here like a total
nerd pretty much twelve hours a day and just study

(01:50:54):
this stuff NonStop. I literally went to law school so
I could be a nerd and read this stuff for
twelve hours a day NonStop. I understand most people are
not going, but it's like the rest of the media
just not informing people about this. Is why I did
an hour and a half today on the history of

(01:51:14):
slavery and abolition and Juneteenth and all of it. It
just isn't taught, or if it is taught, it's not
widely disseminated. The thing that just absolutely galls me is
this idea that somehow there was this big switch in
ideologies between the Republicans and the Democrats sometime around nineteen
sixty eight, and that it was Richard Nixon's Southern strategy

(01:51:37):
that suddenly convinced all of the white racist Democrats to
become from Nixon lost like every single southern state. In
some states, he finished third behind Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace.
For goodness sakes, the Southern strategy of trying to appeal
to the racist was one of the worst political strategies ever.

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Republicans didn't start winning the South because they appealed.

Speaker 2 (01:52:04):
To the racists. It's because they had a better message.

Speaker 1 (01:52:08):
It's because the values of the American South, the American Midwest,
basically everybody except the coasts and the big cities in
this country more closely aligned with Nixon, Reagan, Bush, and
now Trump. Conservative republicanism or populist conservatism or neo con Republicanism,

(01:52:30):
whatever it was, it was just always whatever era we
went in, it was always more closely aligned with the
Republican Party with the Middle America that just increasingly I fear.
And this is the thing that really I think gets
me as we prepare to celebrate America's two hundred and
fiftieth birthday, is that we're not more divided than we

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were during the Civil War or periods of unrest in
the nineteen sixties, but we are increasingly a country where
a whole lot of people have very little in common
with one another. And the one thing we always, at
every moment of our history we're able to share and
we're able to agree upon, was a love of and

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pride in this country. And unfortunately, the data, the facts
are that one political party, one movement, one group of
people just doesn't anymore. And it's very, very difficult to
find common ground in that when you start with a

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basis of this country is horribly racist and awful, and
it's not worth celebrating. Nobody has ever suggested, least of
all me, that America is a perfect and no nation
on earth is perfect. Every people, every civilization across time,
across this world has had slavery in some form or fashion.

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What amazes me is the same Libs who are so
upset about slavery one hundred and sixty years ago here
in this country say little to nothing about the slavery
that still exists across Africa and the Middle East today,
Like literally today, right now, there are slaves. Nobody thinks

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that America was ever a perfect place. It was never
intended to be. We always strive to make it a
more perfect union. And the beauty of America is that
there are all sorts of people who love it so
much that they will never stop striving.

Speaker 2 (01:54:33):
All right, I.

Speaker 1 (01:54:34):
Hope everyone has a wonderful, wonderful weekend. Happy Father's Day
to every single dad, and we will be back on
Monday afternoon, three six pm.

Speaker 2 (01:54:47):
To do it all again.

Speaker 1 (01:54:48):
You've been listening to the Dan O'donnald Show. Have a
great weekend, Wisconsin,