The Buck Stops Anywhere but David Crowley’s Desk

On Wednesday's "Dan O'Donnell Show," David Crowley finally addresses the chaos at the Wisconsin State Fair in his county and...blames Republicans in the Legislatures. Dan takes him to task for his refusal to take responsibility for helping foster the climate in which antisocial thugs feel perfectly comfortable committing violent acts at a festival. Why? Because they know full well they will face no real consequences in David Crowley's Milwaukee County.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Bucks stops absolutely anywhere other than David Crowley's desk.
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wherever you listen to podcasts. Well, it didn't take long
for bff's David Crowley and Tony Evers to get back together.

(02:09):
They're on the campaign trail again today and Crowley wants
absolutely nothing to do with a massive, massive controversy that
has engulfed his campaign. Why is it that teen mob
takeovers keep happening in his county? Most recently at the
Wisconsin State Fair, there were seven arrests and one police

(02:33):
officer was injured when a mob stormed the gates at
about eight pm. After the midway area was cleared, the
mob just proceeded into the main area of the Wisconsin
State Fair shortly before it closed down for good on
the final night at ten pm. There were fights, there

(02:54):
were just mob beatings. There was chaos, and then after
the State Fair Park was shut down at about ten pm,
the mob spilled out onto the street, attempting to get
into a Walgreens and a McDonald's near State Fair Park.
Now all of this happened in David Crowley's Milwaukee County.

(03:16):
This happened as sort of the capstone to a summer
in which mob takeover events not just in Milwaukee County,
but in inner cities and emanating from inner cities and
spreading two suburbs across the United States. We have seen
iterations of this almost invariably, involving nearly all black teenagers

(03:40):
and black young adults for fifteen years. In fact, back
in twenty eleven, there was a mob attack at State
Fair Park on the opening night in which mobs of
young black males rampaged across the park and rampaged outside
the park as they were pulling white people from their

(04:02):
cars and viciously beating them. This is something that has
been going on though over the past couple of summers
with respect to street takeovers and insert event here takeovers.
There was a Fourth of July takeover, There was a
Puerto Rico Day takeover in Milwaukee in early June. These

(04:26):
got so bad and Milwaukee's leadership has been so feckless
that it actually necessitated one of the single dumbest moves
I've ever seen a common council make. This brought to
you by the same City of Milwaukee, not Milwaukee County,
but City of Milwaukee Common Council that instead of cracking
down on car thieves like the Kia Boys, a notorious

(04:49):
group of teens that would steal Kias and Hyundai's across Milwaukee,
leading to epidemic levels of car theft. In the post
twenty twenty decriminalization of crime, George Floyd woke Era, they
decided to file a lawsuit against Kia and Hyundai because

(05:11):
their vehicles were simply too easy to steal. I likened
this to someone trying to sue a bikini maker because
there is an outbreak of rapes. That is exactly what
it was. They were trying to do. What did they
try to do to stop team takeovers? Not arrest the teens,

(05:32):
not throw the book at the teens, but shut down
the taco trucks and other food trucks that would, of
course congregate on Water Street in downtown Milwaukee, on Brady Street,
anywhere where there is a significant bar and entertainment presence
where people congregate, you can make an absolute killing serving

(05:53):
food to drunk people as they stumble.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Out of a bar.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
The Milwaukee Common Council actually had that ordinance overturned, or
at least there is an injunction filed against it, so thankfully,
the food trucks are still able to operate in downtown Milwaukee.
But this is the atmosphere in which teenagers feel completely
emboldened to simply engage in mass acts of incredibly deviant

(06:22):
and violent behavior because they don't fear any consequences. The
failure at State Fair Park on Sunday night was not
that there wasn't enough security to handle the mob. In fact,
for ten days and almost eleven full nights for ninety
nine percent of the Wisconsin State Fair, there were no

(06:45):
major incidents. Security was just fine, however, because there was
a planned event where teenagers would come from Milwaukee's inner City,
almost all of them black, almost all of them getting
the information from social media. Snapchat, TikTok videos were promoting this.

(07:08):
Apparently they all came, and they all decided they were
just going to overwhelm the already large security force that
was there. I was actually at State Fair Park on
both Friday and Saturday night and was just kind of
making a note to myself how many security officers there were.
I only briefly walked by the midway area. We parked

(07:30):
on the other side of the park, and frankly, my
fifteen sixteen year old son found one of his friends
and they went over to go on the rides. On Saturday,
I was with my wife, one of our dear friends,
and my twelve year old daughter. We spent most of
our time in the expo center. When you're walking around
State Fair Park with two women and a preteen girl

(07:54):
and there are that many miracle products to purchase, you're
never leaving the expo center to go to the rides,
even though I actually did want to go. Just I
like checking out what type of rides they have and
sort of anything new, you know, Just I like checking
things out what can I say. I'm a kid at heart.
My stomach is far too weak now to actually go

(08:14):
on some of the vomitron rides that they've got at
the State Fair, but I enjoy watching and it looked
to me in the very brief time I was sort
of near the Midway area, that there was a ton
of security, and I had heard from other people who
were there just kind of in passing saying, yeah, there
was a.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Huge security force there.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
The failure was not because there was a lack of
adequate security. The failure was because Milwaukee County permits this
type of chaos to happen.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Over and over and over.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Again, such that the people who are engaging in this
type of chaos don't fear any consequences from anyone in
Milwaukee County, least of all it's top leader county secutive
David Crowley. So Crowley did not want to talk about
the violence at State Fair, of course, but when he
was asked about it at a campaign event today along

(09:11):
with who else, Governor Evers, I'm surprised that Evers didn't
like throw his body in front of David Crowley, like
he's jumping in front of a grenade to try to
answer this question for him, Crowley did something that was
the height of disingenuousness, if not completely dishonest. He actually

(09:33):
attempted to blame the Republican controlled state legislature for what
happened in his county on Sunday night.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Let's be very clear.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
You know, State Fair is actually controlled by the State
of Wisconsin, which is controlled by the Republican controlled legislature.
And so you know, at the end of the day,
we want to make sure that we're providing state space
is working directly hand in hand, not just with law enforcement,
but our community by interrupters in general, to make sure
that nothing is going out of hand. But at the
end of the day, as county executive, I work with

(10:07):
all of our local municipalities to make sure that they
have the resources that they need.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, So he really said that that State Fair is
controlled by the state, which is controlled by the Republican legislature,
and not the guy standing next to him, the Democrat
governor of Wisconsin. Yes, the State Fair has its own

(10:35):
police force. Yes, that State Fair police force is in
fact funded by the state. Who do you suppose appoints
the majority of the State Fair board is it Robin Voss,
Is it Devin Lema Hugh, the two outgoing Republican leaders

(10:55):
in the legislature. No, it's the governor who happens to
be a Democrat. At no point did I or anyone
else who has been incredibly critical of what happened at
State Fair on Sunday night, did we ever say, oh,
you know what, the real failure was that there weren't
enough security guards, that the response was inadequate. The response

(11:18):
was inadequate because you had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds
of kids who just flooded State Fair Park, who just
stormed the gates, who hopped over fences, who marauded through
the park, just randomly beating people, and who have over
the past two summers engaged in this type of behavior
over and over and over again across Milwaukee County at

(11:42):
various public events. The two hundred and fiftieth Fourth of
July celebration across downtown Milwaukee, they were shooting fireworks at
cops in a Walgreens parking lot on Brady Street. All
throughout this summer there have been mass groups of kids
just sort of showing up in the most popular downtown

(12:06):
areas that people will congregate that people want to be
at in summer in the city of Milwaukee is fantastic.
They don't call us festival city for nothing. There is
always something going on. But when you allow this level
of lawlessness to fester and to make people not want
to go to Milwaukee, that becomes a real problem. Case

(12:30):
in point, River Splash. For years, River Splash along the
River in downtown Milwaukee was one of the most fun
festivals there was, primarily because a it was in downtown Milwaukee,
and b it was the first one. It was the
unofficial kickoff to summer in Milwaukee. I went to Marquette

(12:54):
University as an undergrad after three years in Madison Law School.
I was coming back every sum to work in radio.
During law school. As an early twenty something, I went
to River Splash every year.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
It was tremendous.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
But then after years in which mobs of predominantly black
teenagers and young men started showing up and getting increasingly
hostile and violent, there was a shooting that basically killed
the entire thing two thousand and seven. Two thousand and eight,

(13:30):
River Splash was no more. You can draw a straight
line to attendance. Dwindling at River splash and sponsors pulling
out of river splash, vendors pulling out of river splash,
and river splash dying to the chaos that was allowed
to continue for multiple years, same city, same county, same

(13:54):
basic problem. Now we're nearly two decades later, and the
same problem is met with the exact same passing of
the exact same buck. David Crowley knows how devastating this
is for him, and he knows damn well that it
has nothing to do with adequate or inadequate security levels.

(14:18):
It has everything to do with the fact that under
his tenure, which coincided with the peak Woke era in
which everybody involved in the Milwaukee County criminal justice system,
from the county executive to the district attorney to the
sheriff to the judiciary, they have all been oriented towards
ensuring that young black males do not face significant criminal consequences,

(14:44):
and as a result, do not fear significant criminal consequences
because to do so would be to be racist and
would be too engaged in modern day slavery by locking
up people not because of the color of their skin,
but because of quite literally the content of their character.

(15:06):
If your character is such that you're going to the
state Fair and you're going to rampage through it in
front of a bunch of little kids and beat the
holy hell out of anybody who stands in your way.
Nobody is judging you for your race. Nobody is suggesting
that you should be locked up because you're black. We
sort of have a several thousand year tradition in Western

(15:31):
civilization and really all civilization that if you engage in deviant,
violent criminal act, you as an individual are punished. Your
race has nothing to do with that. But David Crowley
and Danita Ball the sheriff, and Jeffrey Norman, the Milwaukee
Police chief, and Cataliir Johnson, the Milwaukee mayor, and pretty

(15:52):
much every single judge in Milwaukee County's district Attorney Kent Levern,
before him, John Chisholm, who is a big proponent, Well
before it was fashionable to be a woke prosecutor, he
was the granddaddy of all woke prosecutors here in Milwaukee,
trying to find alternatives to prosecution whenever possible.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Well, what has.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Happened over twenty years and really exacerbated under David Crowley's
reign as County executive is this belief that we can't
possibly prosecute anybody. This is why I say it's far
deeper than just defunding the police. It was the full
decriminalization of crime. This is a massive, massive issue that
goes well beyond State Fair, but it just manifested itself

(16:38):
in the chaos at State Fair. For David Crowley to
pretend that he played absolutely no role in this and
is bizarrely trying to blame the Republican Legislature, which literally
had nothing to do with this, this tells me everything
I need to know about just how devastating State Fair
was for his campaign and what may actually end up

(17:03):
being even more devastating, the fact that this guy is
completely unable to accept responsibility for anything will discuss. Are
you seriously telling me, David Crowley, that if the Wisconsin
State Fair was held in I don't know, wash Shehera

(17:24):
county instead of Milwaukee County, we would see similar chaos
and lawlessness because there has not been a single incident
anywhere near like what we saw on Sunday night at
any county fair in any of Wisconsin's other seventy one counties.
But sure enough, here he was today the Milwaukee County

(17:47):
executive and Democratic nominee for governor, saying it ain't my fault,
it's the Republican legislature.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Let's be very clear.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
You know, State Fair is actually controlled by the State
of Wisconsin, in which is controlled by the Republican controlled legislature.
And so you know, at the end of the day,
we want to make sure that we're providing safe space,
is working directly hand in hand, not just with law enforcement,
but our community violence interrupters, and.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
We're going to work with our community violence interrupters. A
fine job they have done. It does not appear that
they have interrupted any violence whatsoever, because even as the
rest of the country saw a truly historic drop in
the murder rate. FBI Statistics, the final uniform crime report

(18:34):
that the FBI puts out each year for twenty twenty
five was released yesterday, and it showed the single biggest
drop in crime year over year.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
In about one hundred years.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
It was tied with nineteen fifty five and nineteen fifty six.
The murder rate, according to the preliminary numbers that were
released earlier, this year, had the biggest one year decline
since nineteen hundred, when records were first kept, Milwaukee County
actually saw an increase in the murder rate. In fact,

(19:12):
in the six years that David Crowley has been County executive,
the murder rate has exploded over the six years prior
to him taking office. There's just no way around that.
Was it part of a national trend. Yes, were cities
able to get their crime rates and their murder rates

(19:34):
under control much better than Milwaukee and Milwaukee County were
able to. Absolutely they could. But Crowley is just completely
unable to accept responsibility for his many, many, many failures.
Earlier this week, while taping an episode of Upfront with

(19:57):
Matt Smith, he actually said the reason that Milwaukee County's
finances were in such a mess such that he had
to nearly double the county's proper or excuse me, the
sales taxes and dramatically increase the property taxed levy after
a one time cut because of all of the revenue

(20:18):
that was coming in from the sales tax that he
had nearly doubled. He said, well, we had to clean
up this huge mess that Scott Walker left. Scott Walker
left office nine years before David Crowley was elected.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
One of the things we heard even just today in
these first couple of days, was listen. As county executive,
you proposed property tax increases, You oversaw a near collapse
in health insurance for county employees, So why should voters
trust you?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Well, look, what he won't tell you is that we're
picking up the mess that actually Scott Walker.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Actually left for us.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Right, yeah, please explain to me how Scott Walker left
a mess that I don't know. Chris Abley, who is
county executive for eight years before David Crowley was elected,
did just please explain to me how did he just
not notice? Is Is it like when the dog poops

(21:19):
on the carpet in like a corner of the room,
and you don't see it until the roomba runs over it,
and then it's just a disaster. And like David Crowley
is the roomba finally trying to desperately pick up the mess. Well,
just like the roomba that runs over dog poop, David
Crowley cleaned up a mess by making a much, much,

(21:39):
much bigger mess. Milwaukee County's finances have always been a mess.
They have always been a disaster. But Crowley himself is
touting as his greatest accomplishment. The thing he is most
proud of in his years as county executive, the thing
that will make him a great governor, according to every

(21:59):
other Democrat, is the fact that he was able to
successfully lobby the Republican legislature to bail out his county
from his own fiscal mismanagement. The State of Wisconsin, under
Act twelve in twenty twenty three, didn't just allow Milwaukee
County to implement a new point four percent sales tax

(22:23):
on nearly every item sold in the county on top
of a new two percent city sales tax for the
City of Milwaukee. It also reconfigured the state aid formula
for shared revenue going back to the City of Milwaukee
and Milwaukee County. The State of Wisconsin increased the amount

(22:43):
of money that would go to Milwaukee County by about
seven and a half million dollars per year. The county
sales tax that Crowley implemented generated at least one hundred
plus million dollars in new revenue every year. What did
Crowley immediately do after all that sales tax revenue came in, Well,

(23:08):
it was an election year twenty twenty four, so he
cut the property tax levy yay. The next year, as
he kept spending and as all of that sales tax
revenue was gone, he had to up the property tax
levy by an insane amount, and he did it again
last year. The bottom line is that in spite of

(23:32):
all of this new revenue coming from the state, David
Crowley is still running a fifty million dollar budget deficit
because he is spending so much more on nonsensical programs
that promote DEI or whatever other liberal initiatives that the

(23:54):
county is frittering away your hard earned money on instead
of actually balancing the budget, something that oh, I don't know,
Scott Walker did when he was county executive and then
did again as governor of Wisconsin. David Crowley took Milwaukee
County about twenty five steps backwards nine years after Scott

(24:19):
Walker left office. He'll do the exact same for Wisconsin now.
His team is very clearly worried about what they're seeing
in internal polling. How do I know, because they have
actually unthoughed Tammy Baldwin two years early before she's got

(24:40):
a run for reelection, not two years now. She just
ran for reelection in twenty four, six years early. She
usually is just cryogenically frozen and shipped off to her
multi million dollar condo in New York forgetting all about
the people in Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
She actually represents.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
She actually made an appearance today in a social media
video to try to lie to voters that David Crowley
isn't really a text and spend far left hack. No, No,
he's going to be fiscally responsible, just like he was
not in his six years running Milwaukee County.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
That's coming up next right here, Benet.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
State Fair on Sunday night is not a product of
a lack of security. It's a product of a lack
of accountability. That is the big crisis in Milwaukee County
and in inner cities across the country, not just in
terms of what kids are doing on the street, but

(25:44):
also in schools. Milwaukee Public School District MPs is under
federal investigation now because it has apparently been using race
to determine whether or not kids are actually punished for
what they do in schools.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Now.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
This is a subject that is very near and dear
to my heart. I actually did about ten eleven years
ago a radio documentary about this won a number of awards,
called Blood on the Blackboard, the plague of violence against
teachers in Milwaukee public schools, and one of the big
problems that I found was what was known as the

(26:22):
Dear Colleague letter that was sent out by the Obama
Justice Department and Education Department, basically saying that if you
have a racially neutral policy, such as if you punch
a teacher in the face, you're expelled, and more black
students or Hispanic students, minority students than white students in

(26:44):
terms of whole numbers or as a percentage are expelled
for violation of that policy, that policy will be determined
to be racist. We will dive into this coming up
in the five o'clock hour. Acountability crisis doesn't just extend
to school children, and it doesn't just extend to marauding

(27:08):
thugs at the Wisconsin State Fair. It also extends to
the highest levels of government. Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley
is wholly unable to accept responsibility for the fact that
he raised sales taxes on everybody, not just his own residence,

(27:29):
but everybody who goes to Milwaukee County and buys something.
He nearly doubled the sales tax and dramatically increased the
property tax levy. This is an undeniable fact, yet of
course the Democrats are trying to deny it for him,
even dusting off Senator Tammy Baldwin, who normally does not

(27:53):
deign to make an appearance in the state she represents
in between election years. She basically goes from the buffet
line in the Senate cafeteria to her multi million dollar
condo in New York City and never really has time
for things like you know, her constituents. Well, today, she

(28:15):
and the David Crowley campaign were sufficiently spooked about something
they very clearly saw in the internal polling about Crowley's
record on taxas in Milwaukee County that they actually had
Baldwin cut a social media video lying about it for him.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
I want to talk with you about our next governor,
David Crowley.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
David is a.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
Dad of three who runs the largest county in Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Okay, first of all, I know this is just sort
of Tammy's affect, But why do all boomer liberal women,
liberal women generally in politics.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
Talk to their audiences like their five. David runs a
big county. It's called Milwaukee County. Can you say Milwaukee?
It's the biggest county in Wisconsin. After this quick little
civics and geography lesson, Tammy went straight into the dishonesty.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
We don't have to guess.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
What kind of governor he'll be because we've already seen it.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
Can you guess what type of governor he'll be? Have
you seen him?

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Okay, I'm gonna stop. It's just weird they sound. They
all sound like miss Rachel, the weird pro Palestinian children's host,
who is like the personification of creepy middle aged woman.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
All right, Tam, the flora is yours.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
As county executive, he cut property taxes, expanded it affordable housing,
and made healthcare easier to reach. His opponent, Tom Tiffany,
would take us backwards votes with the extreme Maga agenda
one hundred percent of the time, driving up your costs

(30:06):
on everything from groceries to healthcare. He voted against expanding
Badger Care and to gut the coverage nearly three hundred
thousand Wisconsin. I's count on David will lower costs and
put Wisconsin families first.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
Lower costs are better. Maga wants to make costs higher.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
That's bad.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
It's mega Maga. Okay, Maga not maga, maga. It's been
a thing for more than a decade. I just this
is what happens when you only actually have to speak
publicly like once every six years, when you're running for reelection,
and when your party gets really, really nervous that people

(30:55):
are going to find out that Crowley actually did raise
the property tax levee dramatically. Yes, there was a one
time reprieve after he spiked the sales tax and it
was an election year twenty twenty four, so he said, oh,
you know what, I'm going to say that I cut
the property tax levee. Guess what, it went right back up.

(31:20):
And it's been soaking homeowners in Milwaukee County for the
past two years, especially this year when we had historically
high property tax levies. In fact, the biggest year over
year increase in the property tax levee, biggest chunk of
that coming from the school tax levee thanks to David

(31:40):
Crowley's BFF Tony Evers and his four hundred year veto,
which allowed local school districts to dramatically increase the amount
that they are charging their taxpayers on a per pupil
basis for the next four centuries. People who don't follow
Wisconsin politics closely. Always say that can't be potty. You

(32:03):
can't possibly do that. Oh yes you can. Evers did,
and the Wisconsin Supreme Court, controlled by leftists allowed him
to do it. But let's talk about some of those
lies spouted by Senator Baldwin. First, that David Crowley is
making things more affordable. When you nearly double the sales

(32:25):
tax as a county executive, which Crowley did, that by
definition does not make things more affordable.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
Tammy. When you pay a higher sales tax, do you
pay more or less for the item you just bought?

Speaker 2 (32:46):
It's more.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
He also dramatically increased the property tax levy over the
last two years, getting it right back up to about
three hundred ten million dollars where it was before the
supposed biggest property tax cut in the history of Milwaukee County.
Everybody is failing to mention that the sales tax, which

(33:14):
hits people who don't own property, the same poor and
lower middle class people that democrats like Baldwin and Crowley
claim to be standing up for, it hits them harder
because they have to buy stuff just as rich people
in Milwaukee County do. But when you add another dollar
or two to every purchase. It is a much bigger

(33:36):
chunk of their total financial take home than somebody who's
making three four hundred thousand dollars a year. This is
just taxation one oh one. This is why sales taxes
are the most regressive in the United States. David Crowley
nearly doubled his They realize what a vulnerability this is.

(33:59):
And as for are making healthcare more affordable because of
Crowley's administrations incompetence, every single Milwaukee County employee and every
single Milwaukee County retiree nearly had their health insurance coverage
lapse because the coverage plan was allowed to expire and

(34:20):
Crowley's office told nobody on the Milwaukee County Board about
it for nearly a month.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
This was a massive scandal.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
And now he and Tammy Baldwin are trying to pretend
that he's going to be the guy to trust on healthcare.
His own employees couldn't trust him on healthcare, why should
the rest of the state. The unhinged Liberal of the
day is coming up next here on the Dan o'donald Show.
Oh it is time now to name the unhinged liberal

(34:51):
of the day. Each and every day. Here on the
Dan o'donald Show, we name a lib who goes above
and beyond the call of duty of just being an
everyday crazy person and says or does something that really
ups the game of themselves and liberalism itself. Today's unhinged
liberal of the day is the brother of Natalie Harp,

(35:15):
as well as CNN's Aaron Burnett, who put this crazy
on television. Natalie Harp is one of President Trump's closest
aids and is with him all the time. This is
relatively common for a president to have close aids. The

(35:38):
clear implication that the Libs are drawing is that somehow
Trump and Harp are having an affair, or that he
is sexually.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Attracted to her in some way.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
But Natalie Harp has become because she is just She
is a die hard Trump's supporter. She's very close to him.
This is kind of what close political aids do. But
the left can't accept this, so they engage in some

(36:11):
of just the worst of the worst media behavior I
think I've ever seen. Harp is clearly estranged from the
douche lib who looks exactly like you think he would
long hair, looks stoned out of his gourd for his
CNN appearance and basically says, yeah, so I'm actually the

(36:37):
black sheep of the family. Natalie is the one who's
making our mom and dad proud.

Speaker 7 (36:43):
So right now I'm about ready to.

Speaker 8 (36:45):
Walk into it.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Oh wait, this is the wrong one here.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
You guys grew up in the same home, the same family,
so you understand where she's coming from in a way
that no one else does.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
What do you think drew her?

Speaker 9 (36:57):
Well, my mom raised us with the idea that I'm American,
exceptionalism was the correct way of looking at things from
the United States is the boss of the world. Yeah, Like,
you know, slavery was back then, that was normal. People
weren't bad because they had slaves. And honestly, and it's
like Trump wants to take all those books out of schools.

(37:19):
He wants to rewrite history, and so like, I think
that my sister unfortunately didn't break out of that delusion
that my mom raised us with. And Trump is like
everything that my mom taught us to respect. So I
think that's where her infatuation for Trump comes from, honestly,
because I don't think it's a physical attraction. Let's let's

(37:40):
get real, you know.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Speaking of books, can we get this idiot to read one?
So let's see, he's admitting that he and his sister
grew up with good values, they came from a good family,
and he rejected all of those. What is it about
all of these unhinged libs that all of their anger

(38:03):
towards America and the body politic invariably comes back to
their anger towards their parents, everyone involved in this shameful
hit on Natalie harp on CNN your unhinged here. I
thought it would be the Tupac murder trial that would
be the one gripping the nation. Instead, it is the

(38:27):
trial of Lindsey Clancy. I will be totally honest with you, folks.
I have as the father of three children who are
much much, much older than the three children that Lindsay
Clancy murdered. And she did murder her children. The only
question is whether she did it while suffering from postpartum psychosis.

(38:50):
This trial, especially this week, has really become a cultural
sort of benchmark, a cultural sort of measuring stick, if
you will. People are saying that, well, this is I
women who have had children and have gone through postpartum depression.

(39:11):
I was just like Lindsey Klansny. Trust me, madam, you
were not. I've tried to avoid this story because frankly,
I just I could not think of anything more horrific
to happen to a family. I just could not the
brutal murder of three very young, beautiful children at the

(39:34):
hands of their own mother. We are, however, going to
get into this in the five o'clock hour and about
five thirty, because I do think this now says something
deeper about where we are. And frankly, I don't believe
Lindsey Clancy's defense. She's pleading not guilty by reason of

(39:56):
essentially insanity. Here in Wisconsin we call it mental de
disease or defect, and she was claiming that she was
so psychotic while having an episode of postpartum psychosis. This
is very different than postpartum depression. A lot of women
have postpartum depression. It is a real thing. I've also
seen some people in the manosphere saying that postpartum depression

(40:21):
is not a real thing. It most definitely is. It
affects like one in eight one in nine women.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
It is.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
It is largely hormonal, compounded by a pronounced lack of
sleep that just messes with women's brains and they go
into a deep thunk, a deep sense of depression. But
it's like one in a thousand mothers suffers from postpartum psychosis,

(40:47):
where they actually have a break from reality. I don't
believe Lindsay Clancy ever did, and in fact, I think
the evidence has shown a clear pattern of her building
towards essentially an insane defense, well knowing exactly what it
was that she did and appreciating exactly how wrong it was.

(41:08):
That's the standard for an insanity defense. Did at the
time the act was committed, the defendant understand the difference
between right and wrong? Did they know what they were doing?
That's why the famous example here in Milwaukee was Jeffrey
Dahmer's attorney, Gerald Boyle, the late great Gerald Boyle, who

(41:30):
was just fantastic to me. He was fantastic to my
mom when she was a young lawyer. I know he
was a controversial figure, but he was always very very
good to me. He famously said when a judge rejected
Dahmer's insanity defense, how many people do you have to
eat before you're judged to be insane?

Speaker 2 (41:50):
In this state?

Speaker 1 (41:51):
It is like a legendary line in the annals of
the law. But what he I think intentionally was obvious
skating was the fact that dahmer knew exactly what he
was doing was wrong. Yes, obviously he was insane. Did
he meet the standard for not having criminal liability? He
did not, So we're going to discuss that coming up

(42:13):
in the five o'clock hour here on the Dan o'donald Show.
Also a chance for you to win one thousand dollars
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Flyaway contest. Right now, though, it's time for the Daily
Trump Date, a look at what's going on today in
Donald Trump's Washington. The President today welcoming tech leaders, financial leaders,

(42:39):
and crypto leaders to the White House ahead of a
massive symposium.

Speaker 10 (42:45):
We're delighted to welcome some of our nation's brightest minds
in finance, crypto and technology ahead of the first ever
meeting of the CFTC's Innovation Advisory Committee.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
In Washington, d C.

Speaker 10 (42:57):
This is a group of very smart people that are
in a committee to recommend what we do right Paul,
They're going to be telling this a little bit, but
I think Paul knows maybe more than anybody. He's doing
a great job. We're all happy with Paul.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
I think we all love Paul.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Wait go, Paul would be Paul Atkins, the SEC Commissioner
Securities and Exchange Commission that President Trump was talking to
and about. He was talking also about the need to
really dominate the economy of today and the economy of
the future, which AI and crypto especially represent.

Speaker 10 (43:37):
New financial technologies are extending this American dominance into the
twenty first century. And that's why we're focused on creating
a clear regulatory framework for pioneers and builders like the
people that are with me here, so that they can
do business with confidence on American soil. They don't have
to go to other countries to do their business. We're

(43:58):
ensuring that America remains it's the undisputed leader, not only
in bitcoin and crypto, but also technologies like prediction markets,
artificial intelligence, and much more. And we're leading in every
single one. And I will tell you the AI, the
artificial intelligence.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
We're way ahead of number two.

Speaker 10 (44:16):
Number two is China, and I never want to under
a sme China, but right now We're way ahead. President.
She's coming on September twenty fourth. We look forward to it.
We'll probably be talking about AI and a lot of
other things.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Do you think President Trump is just going to say
right to she's face? You know we're number one. We're
number one by a wide margin on AI. That is
undoubtedly true. That ladies and gentlemen. Is your daily Trump date.
A reminder that US Agriculture Secretary Brook Rawlins is going
to join us here on the Dan O'Donnell show.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Coming up. I would say in about.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Fifteen twenty minutes four point thirty she is scheduled to
join us. She spent the day hanging out with Joe
Thomas NFL Hall of Famer UW. Badger's great. I'm totally
drawn a blank here. Where did he go to high school?
Is in southeast Wisconsin? Is he a Brookfield Central kid?
I'm going to get absolutely crushed by football fans here

(45:13):
in this state. I keep saying pe Walkee, but that
was the Watt Brothers. Someone helped me out where Joe
Thomas went to high school. We do love Joejoe apparently
a very strong conservative and he's also a family farmer,
so Secretary Rollins is going to talk to us about that,
as well as the announcement President Trump made yesterday about

(45:34):
negotiations with Canada on easing some of those tariffs to
try to get a better deal for America's farmers, including
those here in Wisconsin. That's coming up at four point
thirty here on the Dan O'Donnell show. AI is very
clearly where the economy of the future is going to be,

(45:57):
not just in AI, but in the infrastructure surrounding it.
You have already seen a massive run up in essentially
what's known as the compute, what powers the data processing
power and the raw computing power that actually makes AI possible.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
In Video is one of for a while.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
It was the most valuable company on planet Earth. It
still may be in terms of market cap. All it
does is produce chips, not like Dorito's, but the chips
that power It was in video was largely a video
game chip maker. You could not sell enough copies of

(46:44):
Grand Theft Auto six, and they're going to sell a
ton of copies of Grand Theft Auto six when it
allegedly comes out later this year to make up the
market cap that in Vidia has been valued at it's
because of all of the speculation about just how much

(47:05):
Nvidia chips are going to increase in value when every
single company is turning towards AI models, AI systems, and
AI agents to power pretty much everything. Trump is correct,
near as anyone can tell. And this is some of
the highest of high level secrets the government's use of AI.

(47:30):
This has also driven the dramatic rise in Pallenteer stock.
Palenteer was a pioneer in using AI technology, using predictive
technology essentially to thwarts terror attacks. Palenteer is getting billions
and billions and billions in government contracts to essentially use
its technology to help fight the wars of tomorrow. The

(47:54):
war of today, the one with Iran, is all about
cutting off China, America's number one geopolitical foe, from the oil,
from the lifeblood of an economy that it needs to
potentially close the gap on where America is. China is
facing a demographic crisis. There is nobody who seriously studies

(48:19):
this stuff who believes that China actually has a billion people,
not only that their economy is based all together too
strongly on the manufacturing sector. Take a look at everything
in your car, make sure you're not actually driving.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Take a look if you're still at work at your desk.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Anything that's manufactured is manufactured in China, or it's manufactured
in Singapore.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Or something like that.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
The reason for that is largely because the cost to
manufacture things in the United States or the first World,
the Western world.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Is simply too high.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
The biggest driver of that cost has been the dramatic
increase in the cost of labor. The cost to do
business in the United States is so high because American labor,
essentially at the manufacturing sector level, has priced itself out
of the market. At the information technology engineering stem level,

(49:20):
the American worker is very competitive. The problem that we're
facing is a whole lot of the jobs are being
taken not by American citizens, but by people who are
coming in on say H one B visas, or tech
companies are outsourcing these jobs overseas. This is a major problem.

(49:41):
You do not want people who and I am not
trying to say that people who come to this country
on H one B visas would not be loyal to
the United States, but it is a grave security risk
if you have people engineering machines that essentially can do

(50:02):
everything including launch nuclear weapons and plan battles for you
if they're not one hundred percent loyal to the United States.
This is why winning this infrastructure fight is so critical.
But a proxy fight has emerged, because just as you

(50:23):
need the chips to power AI, you also need the
compute the data enter the battle over data centers. Tom
Tiffany has staked out a position that is undoubtedly the
popular one and the dominant one across the country and

(50:44):
especially here in Wisconsin, where a lot of tech companies
have set their sights on making the data center hub
of the entire world. David Crowley has staked out a
position that is admittedly much closer to mine. I actually
believe there is tremendous opportunity with data centers coming to Wisconsin. Crowley,

(51:08):
of course wants them everywhere but his Milwaukee County. You
put them on some family farm, Sure, great, Why not
Milwaukee County? Not here, not Dane County, not where Democrats live.
Let's put them with all those roubes in the red counties.

(51:29):
That's not obviously my position, but I do believe we
have got a whole lot of land right next to
ninety four between Racine and Kenosha Counties and the Illinois
state line. That right now is strip clubs, fireworks stores,
the Fox Con facility. Let's see you line is down there, Ikea, Yes,

(51:54):
the broad stop is down there, the mars Cheese Castle.
I should have known better than to start listing off landmarks.
With one of the hosts of Discover Wisconsin, Eric Paulson,
helping me out, you've got the Bristol Renaissance Fair. I
was actually thinking, I haven't been to the Bristol Renaissance
Fair in darn near a decade. I think I might go.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
To the Bristol Renaissance Fair this week.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
It's gonna be a nice weekend because if it rains
at any point in like the week before you go
to the Renaissance Fair, it's just a muddy mess. Just
don't even bother. You can just sort of leave your
shoes there. Nah, Friday is supposed to be randy. What
about Sunday? I was thinking, Sunday, Okay, Bristol Renaissance Fair.

(52:38):
On Sunday, I'll bring like some moon boots or something,
so in case it turns into a muddy mess. But
while I understand that data centers are an economic driver,
I sure as hell don't want one in my backyard,

(52:58):
David Crowley does.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Tiffany has attacked.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Crowley relentlessly, essentially from the left on this issue. This
is the populist position that we don't want data centers
using our water, stealing our farmland, and destroying the natural
beauty of Wisconsin. Now, all of these charges are overblown.

(53:25):
Tiffany's not making those Tiffany is saying, Look, David Crowley
is bankrolled by the people who want to bring data
centers to Wisconsin. He's calling him data center David, which
I love as a nickname, but hate because I pronounce
it data center not data center. So data center David

(53:45):
wants a top down approach which basically forces his will
at the state level on local communities, which time and
time and time again over the past year have said,
you don't want data centers in our communities. Here's the
ad that is just absolutely hammering data center David.

Speaker 11 (54:09):
Data center David Crowley.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Here's an opportunity for us to really become AI in
a data hub foot not only for the entire countrial
for the entire globe.

Speaker 11 (54:18):
And he wants you to pay for it. Data center
David Crewley won't roll back data center tax incentives are
lakes run dry, family farms paved over? Why because Crowley's
campaign is bundant by the people building them. Data center
David Crewley, Big Tech wins Wisconsin pays.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
There is, in fact no real reason that we need
to give tax incentives to data center builders. You are
not going to build a data center in any blue
state ever, first of all, the cost to build something,
and all of the environmental hoops that you would need
to jump through astronomical Wisconsin is one of the few

(55:03):
states that is actually open to data center construction on
a wide scale. This has led people to say, hey,
wait a second, Wait a second, do we really want
a giant data center which would bring all sorts of
other development into say, Port Washington. We kind of like

(55:26):
Port Washington as it is. We don't want to rapidly
and fundamentally transform the nature of what our community is,
what our county is, what our city is, what we are.
There is a very strong sense of pride in and
you'll have to forgive me, folks, because I have maybe

(55:49):
lacked a little empathy when it comes to discussing the
data center.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Issue.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
I actually went back and watched a number of town
hall meetings and just listened to people in rural community.
You got to understand, all right. I lived in the
city of Milwaukee. We moved out to Greenfield, and I
moved back to the city to go to college. I
moved to the city of Madison. I've basically been an

(56:16):
urban and suburban kid my entire life, and of course
now as a middle aged old fart, I am purely suburban.
I do not get without outside of like a five
mile radius, and I love it.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
You can find me.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Let's see here at the station in my backyard cutting
the grass on the driving range. I actually started chipping
and putting again this week following my knee surgery. I
was very proud of myself for doing that. And I
don't know Buffalo wild Wings coaching soccer at the local
soccer field.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
That's pretty much it.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
But I like my community the way it is. I
like my lifestyle as it is. I wouldn't want if
I lived in an agriculture if I lived in a
rural community, I wouldn't want a data center going in
because it's not just the data center. And yes, all

(57:16):
of the fears about them are totally overblown. Lest you think, oh,
Dan o'donald totally reversing his position because Tom Tiffany told
them to No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
My position is totally consistent.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
I just have a better understanding of why people don't
want them in their communities.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Look, I lived in Milwaukee County.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
I'm sort of in that southeast Wisconsin nucleus where you're
not talking about putting a heck of a lot of
data centers. It's in Racine County, it's in Ozaki County,
it's in Washington County. It's in areas that are not
as developed, and the people are saying very loudly, Look,
we don't want them to be that develop You're not

(57:59):
just getting a data center. You're going to get more apartments,
You're going to get more restaurants, you're gonna get Yes,
these aren't These are good things unless you want the
slower pace of life, unless you want the lifestyle that
makes the communities that you live in as attractive as
they are. I understand that now, and understand why Crowley's saying, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(58:25):
We're totally going to give tax breaks to every tech company,
the tech companies that are building the This is Amazon,
this is Meta Facebook, this is Elon Musk's various company.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
You think they need tax breaks. They're making money handover fist.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
They don't need an incentive to come here. They're going
to come here regardless. But today Tony Evers, who apparently
is now just David Crowley's closest advice. Look the the
Dems who are just all up in arms about Trump

(59:05):
and his close advisor. What's her name, Natalie uh? Is
it Natalie Sharp? Natalie Harp, Natalie Harp, Yeah right, Natalie Harp, Yeah,
Natalie Harp, Trump's toping.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Oh my god, Look.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
At nobody seems to have a problem that the governor
of Wisconsin appears to be David Crowley's Natalie Harp. So
it was Evers who actually answered the data center question
for data center David Crowley while at their campaign stop today.
Sure as hell sounds like Crowley's position, according to Evers,

(59:40):
is chief spokesperson is a chicken in every pot, data
center on every farm.

Speaker 12 (59:47):
I've heard what David has said several times and it
just makes sense. Right now, it's in the hands of
local people and they're making making decisions, and.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
So that's keep going.

Speaker 12 (01:00:00):
But we also have to have some kind of long
term thinking about this really, but at the end of
the day, you know, local people are making those.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Decisions, and.

Speaker 12 (01:00:11):
I'd say their work doing that has changed the way
that the companies actually come in and talk about it,
because you know, they're they're being more upfront in the
in the in the process, and I think that's all
because of the good work that local people have done.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Everybody in the Democratic Party in this state sounds exactly
like Francesca Hank and just serving up word salads that
are nearly impossible to follow. What he did say there though,
is yes, local people are having local control for now,
but we need to have some forward thinking i e.

(01:00:55):
State policy, maybe getting a little tougher on mandating some
of those data centers going in. Coming up next, we'll
discuss this issue, Canada tariffs, the future of Wisconsin's agriculture,
environment and industry with the US Agriculture Secretary. Brooke Rawins

(01:01:19):
joins the Dan O'Donnell show. Next show, we are very
honored to welcome back to the program and welcome back
to Wisconsin the US Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rawlins. She spent
the day in Wisconsin on a very very a Native

(01:01:39):
son who we are just so proud of Joe Thomas.
I was right by the way, ladies and gentlemen. He
was from Brookfield Central High School, NFL Hall of Famer
with the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 9 (01:01:49):
U W.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Badger is great and now a family farmer Secretary Rawlins
Welcome back to the show. How was it hanging with
Joe Thomas? He's a cool guy, isn't he?

Speaker 7 (01:01:58):
Joe Thomas is a super cool dude. And for those
of us that loved football and loved college football but
love professional football, I mean, it's kind of like all
my best worlds collided.

Speaker 13 (01:02:08):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:02:08):
We got to start beef cattle. We talked football. It
was an amazing day in your beautiful Wisconsin, and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
It was an amazing day at the White House as well.
I'm not sure if you had a chance to hear
President Trump say. He announced yesterday that there was going
to be a pause in the tariffs on Canada as
there is significant progress on talks in terms of getting
a much better deal for farmers. Take a listen to

(01:02:37):
the president. This was at a tech event earlier this afternoon.

Speaker 10 (01:02:41):
Farmers have been hurt very badly by Canada, and they
won't be paying any tariffs anymore, and we may bring
some of the tariffs down to a level where other
countries are because Canada was paying a higher tariff. Canada
was paying us a higher tariff. So we are Look,
we have a very nice relationship with leadership right now,
and we'll see. But we did a three day pause.

(01:03:01):
It was supposed to be a fifty percent straight across
the board tariff that was going into effect at seven
o'clock this morning, and I delayed it at the request
of Canada for three days so we can iron out
the details. But it's going to be a wonderful deal,
hopefully a wonderful deal for everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Can you shed some light on this wonderful deal. What
is it going to mean for Wisconsin's farmers?

Speaker 7 (01:03:24):
Well, I know Canada is obviously a very important trading partner,
especially for this part of the country, and the President
has been very clear he believes very sincerely that the
trade deficit the unfair. You know, for most countries around
the world, they charge American goods fifteen percent when they
come in and we only charge five percent. And especially

(01:03:46):
with dairy of course, Wisconsin's our number one dairy state
in the country. More dairy farms here than anywhere else.
This is a big deal. And he just believes so
strongly that Canada has too long taken advantage of America
and farmers, and he wanted it in that So I
think today it sounds like they've I have not spoken
to President. I've been talking beef with Joe Farmer.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
That's what I figured. That's why I wanted to play
that sound bite for you.

Speaker 7 (01:04:11):
That was actually helpful. I was actually hopeful to hear
him say that. But I do know the President. I've
talked many, many times about Canada, and they are an
important trading partner, but they can't take advantage of us anymore,
and it's time we put America and American goods first.
So I think they've made some great progress. It sounds
like I can't wait to catch up and really proud

(01:04:31):
of his work on that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
And this is really kind of a continuation of an
initiative that you've spearheaded for this administration in putting in
And this goes all the way back to the Republican
National Convention in twenty twenty four right here in Milwaukee,
where he said the theme was the Forgotten American and
the agriculture industry in Wisconsin is certain. I don't want

(01:04:54):
to say forgotten because that kind of implies that all
well is I but he has made it a point
to ensure that a lot of the family farms like
Thomas's that have been struggling in recent decades still have
the competitive edge in the global market that they should,

(01:05:14):
that they're not facing tariffs or other non tariff barriers
to trade with. As you said, Canada is a very
valuable trading partner. Well, why can't Wisconsin dairy, Wisconsin cheese,
Wisconsin Cranberry's ginsing. We're also a huge producer of why
can't they compete on even footing with say, Toronto's farms.

(01:05:36):
I'll put our cheese against Montreal those French snobs any day.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Secretary, Well, there's no.

Speaker 7 (01:05:44):
Doubt about that. No one does cheese like Wisconsin. But no,
you're You're right, And is really sort of stunning. When
we walked in for the first time, you know, a
year and a half ago, and comparing to when we
left four years previous, I was in the first Trump
White House, actually in the world US wing, running all
of the policy, and now, of course this time I'm
in the cabinet managing the agriculture piece. But what happened

(01:06:07):
in those four years. The input prices for our farmers
increased between thirty and forty percent. We know the inflation
horror stories of the Biden administration, but then you think
about labor increasing fifty percent, interest rates increasing over seventy percent, fertilizer, feed, seed,
et cetera. I mean, it was just it's just strangling.
And then at the same time, not one new trade

(01:06:29):
deal in four years. I just don't know what the
Biden team did it. It's unbelievable. And in over a year,
just over a year, we've got twenty new trade deals,
and we're already cutting a fifty billion dollar agricultural trade
deficit that we inherited when we came back af driving
a surplus when we left. We've cut that in half
and we'll be in half again within the next year.

(01:06:51):
So we are making huge progress. But you're right and
putting the American farmer first on the world stage, but
also when you think about and marrying it to the
Make America Healthy Again movement, there is no MAHA movement
without our farmers and ranchers. There's not a MAHA movement
without the Joe Thomases of Wisconsin are great Gary farmers
of Wisconsin who are putting real food back into and

(01:07:15):
onto the family's plates, school lunch, is hospital, military, etc.
That's the solution, and that's what this president stands for.
And that's why it's really really important for Wisconsin that
we have the right people representing you guys in DC
and around the state.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
It absolutely is why we need to send Derek Van
Orden back to Congress. He represents a very strong agricultural
district in the third out in western Wisconsin. Obviously, we
need to send Michael Alfonso to Congress. He would be
taking over the seat that is being vacated by the
man we need to take over the state of Wisconsin.

(01:07:51):
Tom Tiffany, right before we had you on Secretary Rawlins,
we were discussing what I believe to be the single
biggest issue in the Wisconsin governor's race right now, and
it has a direct impact on agriculture. It is the
issue of data centers. Because so many of these data
centers are being proposed for farmland in various parts of

(01:08:17):
this state. Tiffany has said, look, we want local control
and we want to make sure that our farmers and
the communities that have a distinct.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Rural agricultural.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Culture to them aren't fundamentally changed by just dropping these
things willy nilly. His Democrat opponent David Crowley, whom he's
nicknamed data center David, has said we want Wisconsin to
be the data center hub, not just of the country,
but also of the world. Now he is on his
heels saying, oh, yes, yes, I support local control too.

(01:08:55):
I know President Trump is a big fan of data centers,
but he is also a big fan of rural America
and listening to the people he governs. What's your take
on this issue, especially in a state which has flat
land and access to fresh water like Wisconsin, that would

(01:09:16):
be seen as a very attractive place for a lot
of data centers to go up very quickly.

Speaker 7 (01:09:22):
Well, I think Tom Tiffany is exactly right on this,
and there's no doubt the President has been very clear
that if we want to win the AI race, we
have to build, you know, data centers, we have to
build the energy behind to produce it, and if we
don't then it could be catastrophic for the future of
our country at the international level. But the President has

(01:09:42):
also been very clear that you have to do it carefully.
That if we continue to lose our family farms at
the rate under which we've lost them, especially under the
last administration, the AI race won't even matter because we're
no longer going to be able to feed ourselves or
fuel ourselves. The importance of rural America just can't be overstated.

(01:10:03):
And one thing I want to note. You know, you
mentioned Derek Van Orden, who's just one of the best
of the best in DC. Tom Tiffany is another really
great one. You look at the one big beautiful bill,
the Working Families Tax Cut Act, that was a very
significant piece of legislation, right, I mean, the biggest tax cuts,
the biggest de regulatory agenda, securing the border. But one
thing that doesn't get talked about very much, Dan, is

(01:10:25):
that it was also the largest investment in rural America
in history. And so you've got a piece of legislation
whose primary purpose is to cut taxes and shrink government.
But then you have a president and you have a
Republican majority who are putting rural America first. And I
think that's why you see. You know, Tom and I
have not talked about it, but I think that's why
you see, you know, mister Tiffany being very deliberate and

(01:10:48):
very intentional in talking about it. I don't think they're
mutually exclusive. In fact, I believe that they're not. But
I also think that this absolute rush to just gobble
up farmland and lose our great American farmers that is
unsustainable and would be an existential issue to the future
of our country.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
She is US Agriculture Secretary Brook Rollins. I know you've
got to get on a plane and head back to Washington,
d C. Just overall, what you've been here. How many
times have you been to Whisky? I feel like you've
been on the show twice or three times now. It
feels like every couple of months you're here in Wisconsin.
What keeps bringing you back?

Speaker 7 (01:11:27):
I listen, I love this state. I mean, I'm a
Texas girl born and raised, but my mom and my
family have a big row crop farm in Minnesota. I've
spent all of my summers up in this part of
the country. Dairy is such an important part of the
Make America Healthy Again movement, and what has happened to
the dairy farms in Wisconsin and frankly across the Midwest

(01:11:50):
is just heartbreaking. We have to preserve those great dairy farms.
The whole milk and dairy products are the center of
Maha and wiscon either. Is there a better, more beautiful
place in the world in Wisconsin?

Speaker 10 (01:12:01):
I just know that there is.

Speaker 7 (01:12:03):
It's very very special here. So you're gonna hear from
me again very soon, all.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Right, I can imagine.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
And you know what I would I would say, as
somebody who lives here in winter, Secretary Rollins, I would say,
there's like ten million more beautiful places in summer.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Probably not. I see. I'm gonna I'm gonna see.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
I'm gonna get you on in like January, and we're
gonna see are you still although you're you spent enough
time in Minnesota that you know, you know what it
can be like. Uh hey, safe travels back, Secretary Rowins.
We always appreciate you coming on and being so candid
about the president's and the administration's position on data centers,

(01:12:41):
because that is I believe, the correct one. It is
a delicate balance, and it is obviously something that we
do need to win the war with China on. We
cannot export data centers. That said, you know, damn well,
Elon is going to put one on the Moon within

(01:13:02):
like the next five years, so maybe we should just
wait and see where exactly these datus. Also, I'm sorry,
is there not a ton of available land in Alaska?

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
I know you don't want to go into the pristine
wilderness there, but there are a whole ton of barren
areas not. The issue, of course, is you'd have to
get a lot of people there, and you'd have to
build up infrastructure very very quickly. Wisconsin is so attractive,
especially in that ninety four corridor between Milwaukee and Chicago,

(01:13:39):
because it's between two huge metropolises. You've got a lot
of the infrastructure already there. This I believe solves the issue.
It's just this idea that, Okay, we're going to put
one randomly in Port Washington. I'll admit, folks, I am
perfectly fine admitting when I maybe didn't think an issue

(01:14:00):
entirely through. It wasn't you know what I didn't do.
I violated the Mark Belling rule. I did not put
myself in the other guy's shoes. I'm thinking sort of
like David Crowley was like, Okay, yeah, sure, put a
data center, right on Farmer Bills Farm in Eschwabanon. I'm
never gonna see it. I'm never gonna have to live
with it. I'm gonna reap the benefits. All of America

(01:14:20):
is going to reap the benefits. Well, what about everybody
who kind of likes Farmer Bill's farm and the community
being centered around small town life and not just being
built up, because it's not just the data center, It's
not just you know. I think I was thinking people
bought into the left wing propaganda about how you know,

(01:14:41):
it's it's sort of like the anti five G movement
of a couple of years ago, the anti nuclear power
movement of several decades ago, where oh, the data centers
are just gonna suck our lakes dry and they're.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Going to cause electricity costs to rise up.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
What I didn't factor in was how much putting one
of these things that becomes two, that becomes three fundamentally
alters the nature of a community. That's what ultimately this
is all about. Do we want to have Silicon Valley
Midwest in the middle of what was once a peaceful, relaxing,

(01:15:20):
beautiful rural community. We are running way late for a break.
I reckon. I am I gonna do tell the US
agriculture secret. I'm sorry, Ms Rollins, We've got to take
a commercial break.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Can you wait. Always appreciate talking with her. Always appreciate
talking with you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Here on the Dana, we are going to get into
an investigation into MPs. The federal government has determined that
MPs is likely illegally taking race into account when meeting
out discipline in its schools, something that we have been
following for literally a decade plus here on the Dan

(01:15:59):
o'donnald Show, since before there was a Dan O'Donnell Show.
I've been investigating this at MPs and the improper use
of race and how that factors into the lawlessness that
we see on Milwaukee's streets, the lawlessness that we saw
at the Wisconsin Stay Fair when there is no accountability
because of a fear of punishing people who fall into

(01:16:23):
a particular demographic group. That is a big, big, big problem.
Then we will dive into the Lindsey Clancy case, why
it has fascinated the nation, and why everything you probably
think you know about it isn't totally accurate. This is
not about postpartum depression. It is not about a woman

(01:16:48):
who just decided she wanted to kill her kids one day.
This is either a true psychotic break or this was
a murder that was pre met deditated and plan for
a significant amount of time. And Folks, it does look
like some of the evidence points to at least that

(01:17:08):
possibility that Clancy was doctor shopping, that she was desperately
trying to get a diagnosis of postpartum depression, potentially as
cover for the heinous act that she committed. All of
that is coming up next right here on the Dan
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Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Coming up in.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
About a half hour, I will admit, folks that I've
been kind of keeping tabs on the Lindsey Clancy murder
trial in Massachusetts, and.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
It's just so horrible. The woman is.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
First of all, she's not accused of strangling her three
young children. The facts are stipulated, meaning both sides agree.
Clancy and her defense do not dispute that she murdered
her three children. The question is whether or not she
was suffering from postpartum psychosis over the past couple of days.

(01:18:48):
As I just you know, folks, I don't call me
at old softie when it comes to kids, when it
comes to just something so heinous, I just I don't
even want to. It's like I don't my brain doesn't
even want to. There's like a cognitive dissonance that goes up.
I don't even want to believe that such evil is possible,

(01:19:11):
that such innocent, beautiful kids could suffer like that at
the hands of their own mother. No less so I'm
sort of like, ah, I just don't say this week, though,
Lindsey Clancy has sort of become a weird sort of martyr,
particularly for those on the political left, particularly amongst the

(01:19:36):
feminist movement. It is a weird thing to sort of
watch happen in real time. Would you believe that the
family of Clancy, not the ex husband. The ex husband
actually is supporting her insanity defense, but he did divorce her.

(01:19:58):
Theundreds of thousands of dollars raised in I don't believe
it's a go fund, man. I believe it's a give
send go for the family is coming from people who
see themselves in Clancy. It's a little more disturbing than
I think we want to get into. So I'm going

(01:20:20):
to separate fact from fiction in the Lindsey Clancy case
coming up probably in about now, let's call it fifteen
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in this nationwide contest. The federal government is investigating MPs.

(01:21:26):
Why because federal officials with the Office of Civil Rights
in the Department of Education set in a press release
today that they are investigating both MPs Milwaukee Public Schools
and the School District of Fayetteville, Arkansas, because they are

(01:21:47):
violating an executive order, which essentially cites the Civil Rights
Act of nineteen sixty four and the fourteenth Amendment of
the Constitution if they quote the racial outcomes of their
discipline policies and make decisions based on or because of

(01:22:08):
those racial outcomes. According to this press release, MPs is
facing federal scrutiny because leaders there quote derided facially neutral
school policies as reflecting systemic whiteness and seemingly encouraged school

(01:22:29):
officials to consider race in disciplinary practices. This very likely
stems from an investigation that Scott Walker's organization Young America's
Foundation or YAF yaff a couple of years ago into
a memo that MPs put out entitled Educational Community and

(01:22:57):
District Climate. In this memo, the focus, of course, was
on understanding whiteness and anti racism. Memo read in part,
whiteness is everywhere around us. Educational practices have been rooted
in whiteness and coming from a lens of whiteness for years.

(01:23:21):
Educators should reflect on which elements of whiteness they see
in education, which they participate in, and which elements they
can work to dismantle. Videos were listed in this memo
to help teachers continue their journey along the development of
understanding whiteness. One of them was by notorious author Robin DiAngelo,

(01:23:47):
who is white herself but.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Really, really, really really does not like whiteness.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
There was also a video entitled whiteness WTF.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
What this stems from is a policy known as disparate impact.
Disparate impact is the notion that, even if a particular
disciplinary policy is completely and totally neutral, if black and
Hispanic students are impacted more by it, it would be

(01:24:24):
assumed to be racist. This sounds really stupid right in Wisconsin.
To take this to its logical conclusion, disparate impact would say,
what is the worst crime that you can commit as
a human being. It has been pretty consistent throughout the

(01:24:45):
eons murdering another human being right, obviously there are various
levels to it, but you take another human life. This
is considered to be the worst thing that you can do,
right outside of original sin. What was the first sin
that man committed? Cain killed Abel, It's murder. If your statue,

(01:25:08):
and Wisconsin's statute is if you are convicted of first
degree intentional homicide, you are automatically to be sentenced to
life in prison, and the only determination that a judge
can make is whether or not you are eligible for
extended supervision. Regardless of whether you are white or you

(01:25:29):
are black. The statute applies equally. If you are convicted
of homicide in the first degree, you are sentenced to.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
Life in prison. That is state law.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
I'm not spoiling anything, but in Wisconsin we do have
a much higher percentage of black people who are convicted
of first degree intentional homicide than white people people. In
terms of raw numbers, they're very close, but in terms
of a percentage, the black first degree intentional homicide rate

(01:26:10):
is much higher than the white one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
That means that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
Under the theory of disparate impact. Wisconsin's first degree intentional
homicide statute is racist. How could there be anything racist
about it? This is where disparate impact fails. This is
where disparate impact is revealed to be a complete farce.

(01:26:38):
That didn't stop the Obama administration, however, from enforcing it
in schools. In a notorious Dear Colleague letter which came
from then Attorney General Eric Holder and Secretary of Education
Arnie Duncan back in I believe it was twenty fourteen,

(01:26:59):
the Dear Colleague letter, coming from the DOJ and the
DOEES said we're going to apply disparate impact to school policy,
meaning if you have a school policy that says if
you bring a gun to school, you are automatically expelled,
regardless of race, regardless of socioeconomic status, zero tolerance. You

(01:27:23):
bring a gun, you are expelled. If that policy results
in the expulsion of more or a higher percentage of
black or other minority students, that policy would be determined
by both the DOJ and the Department of Education to
be a racist policy. Insane, Yes it is. The Biden

(01:27:49):
administration actually cracked down on MPs in the twenty eleven
and twenty twelve school year. According to the Milwaukee Journals Sentinel,
the Office of Civil Rights found that black students made
up about fifty six percent of enrollment, eighty three percent

(01:28:10):
of suspensions, and eighty five percent of expulsions. They identified
more than one hundred incidents in which black students were
expelled while similarly situated white students were suspended for similar behavior.
I actually remember debunking this when the story first came out,
and I believe I used that in my documentary about this,

(01:28:34):
entitled Blood on the Blackboard, Violence against Teachers in Milwaukee
Public Schools.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
I actually got boy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
At least fifteen teachers to talk to me about how
they were just viciously assaulted by students who were put
right back in the classroom with them, no discipline, no nothing.
And it was a result of this prior investigation and
prior finding that MPa was somehow racist because it was

(01:29:03):
expelling and suspending black students at a higher rate than
white students. How was I able to debunk this? Those
similarly situated white students did not have prior suspensions or
prior disciplinary issues on their records, while the black students

(01:29:24):
invariably did, the biggest differentiator. The biggest explanation for the
harsher sentences not just in a school setting, but also
in a prison setting amongst black and white defendants is recidivism,
is the fact that a black defendant is more likely

(01:29:45):
to have had prior offenses, which a judge takes into
consideration when coming up with a sentence for the current crime.
Habitual criminality is a thing. Let's say a.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
A black guy who is.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Just minding his own business and living his life, finds
his wife cheating on him.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
He shoots her to death in a fit of rage.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
Actually, that's a bad one, because you automatically get the
life in prison. Let's say black guy and a white
guy both steal something. They both steal a car. They're
not Kia boys, they are Kia men. Both steal a car.
The black defendant just did it for the first time

(01:30:39):
because hey, why not.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
It's a Kia, It's easy to steal. I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
He gets sentenced to probation. The same day, a white
defendant steals a Hyundai and get sentenced to a year
in prison, same behavior, almost the exact same car. Why
was the white guy sentenced to a harsher term? Is

(01:31:08):
it because of racism, Well, clearly not.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
He's white.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
What if I told you the white guy had already
stolen fifteen cars before and had a couple of armed
robberies on his record. Would that go into a judge saying, Hey,
you clearly haven't learned your lesson. We're going to need
to throw the book at you here because every break

(01:31:33):
we've given you in the criminal justice system, you've mocked
us for and continued to commit crimes that there have
been multiple, multiple studies that say recidivism is the reason
that there's any sort of disparity in quote similarly situated defendants.
They're not similarly situated. So MPs is accused of going

(01:31:57):
the other way and basically saying we're not going to
And I actually found this eleven years ago and MPs.
I had to actually get the data from MPs on
their disciplinary numbers through a source because MPs sure as
hell wasn't going to share anything with me. They wouldn't
even comment on my documentary, neither with the Teachers' union,

(01:32:19):
which was absolutely stunning. The state legislature attempted to get
laws passed, but of course Democrats blocked.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
In any event, what I was able to uncover.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
Is that what the district just did in response to
the Obama administration cracking down on them. They just stopped
suspending everybody. They just said, Okay, we're not going to
use suspension, We're not going to use expulsion. We're just
no longer going to punish because we don't want to

(01:32:54):
be hit with accusations of racism and we don't actually
want to lose federal fund because we're being accused of
applying facially neutral policies, totally neutral policies. You punch a teacher,
you're suspended for five days. Doesn't get any more clear
cut than that. Well, greater percentage of black kids are
punching teachers, they're getting suspended. Airgo, it must be racist

(01:33:20):
to suspend kids for punching teachers in the face. How
do you get those numbers down? If black students Hispanic
students continue to punch teachers in the face, you just
stop suspending those kids or any kids for punching teachers
in the face.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
When you also have a memo.

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
Out there, like the one uncovered by yaff saying well,
we think that all of the ills of society stem
from whiteness, and we need to make sure that our
teachers are are coming to grips with their own whiteness
and they're they're eliminating whiteness. That gives plenty of ammunition

(01:34:01):
for a Department of Education to say, hey, look at this.
We have very strong belief, and they apparently did get
a complaint from someone who said, look, they're clearly doing this.
If whoever filed that complaint has some data that they
would like to share with me. In addition to the
Department of Education, I would love to see it that MPs,

(01:34:25):
just because I'm willing to wager, and disciplinary data typically
is not easily accessible. I would love to see the
racial breakdown of suspensions and expulsions because I'm willing to
wager that if this caught the attention of the Civil
Rights Division of the Department of Education, they have just

(01:34:48):
stopped disciplining black and Hispanic students altogether. Why that is
such a massive problem, and why that directly leads to
the mob chaos that we have seen all summer long,
culminating in the disaster that was the final night of
State Fair.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
That's all I own.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
Welcome back to the Dan O'Donnell Show, Milwaukee. Clearly has
an accountability crisis. Really, America has an accountability crisis, and
it starts and ends with the exact posture that Milwaukee
Public Schools is being investigated for in its disciplinary practices.

(01:35:28):
The federal government, the Department of Education's Civil Rights Division,
is investigating both Milwaukee and Fayetteville, Arkansas, for apparently taking
race into account when handing out school discipline. This is
a classic violation of the fourteenth Amendment. This is not

(01:35:49):
equal treatment under the law, if in fact it can
be proven, and I am willing to wager, based on
a decade of following this stuff, that it abbssolutely is
coming into account. When the Office of Civil Rights cracked
down on MPs in twenty thirteen twenty fourteen, using data

(01:36:12):
to show that black students were being suspended at a
higher rate than all other races, it never took into account. Maybe,
just maybe, and I know nobody can say this in
polite company, maybe a higher percentage of black students are

(01:36:33):
doing things that would get them suspended or expelled. Is
that not a possibility? Is it possible that one particular
race of students in Milwaukee Public school the race of
students that comprises the majority of all students, so you've
got a bigger selection from which to choose students who

(01:36:59):
might be capable of doing things that would get them
suspended or expelled. What happens when, instead of doing so,
that particular race and other races are told that because
of your race, we are going to presume that you

(01:37:21):
didn't do something that is worthy of a suspension, expulsion,
or outside of the context of a school prison, we
are going to just presume that you did nothing wrong,
that it was in fact the racism of the school
of the justice system of America itself that victimized you.

(01:37:47):
What do you think that is going to tell, particularly
people of that race.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
What if we.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
Were telling white people, we were telling white kids, you
don't worry. What would be a classic like white kid
name that would be in a school right now that
like a millennial or a Generation Z parent would give
to their kid. How about River R y v I R.

(01:38:22):
I actually know a couple of kids named Rivers their parents.
I know one family very well. They're wonderful people. I'm
talking about like the name that's like, uh, you know,
just totally spelled.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
Weird river R yv I R.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
Actually it's pronounced Revere like Paul Revere. Oh, like you
spell it r E V E R E no R
y V I R with an oohlat over the I
thank you very much. By the way, his pronouns are
they them? He's six. Just in case you think I'm

(01:39:02):
only capable of making fun of boomer libs, No, the
libs of my generation are like, truly utterly insane. They're
not comically insane, they're terrifyingly insane. So let's say little
Revere is told, well, look, we know you didn't actually

(01:39:23):
punch that teacher in the face. Because you are a
problem child who needs to be taken out of the
classroom because you're disrupting every other kid around you. It is,
in fact the fact that the system is biased against you.
We know that it's only really the black kids that

(01:39:44):
commit violet acts against teachers, Little Revere, So we're not
going to punish you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
We don't do that to white students.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
What would that tell Little Revere and every other white kid?
You can do whatever the hell you want, claim that
any blowback you get is racist against you, and you
walk off scot free.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
I want you.

Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
To ask yourself, what would happen if a whole bunch
of those kids out of school for the summer suddenly
thought they could just sort of storm State Fair and
start violently assaulting people on a random Sunday night. When
you ask yourself, why would you get the idea to

(01:40:36):
do that? Could a part of it be we don't
think there are going to be any consequences because our
very school district has said, well, we're not going to
punish because we need to take your racial makeup into
the whole point of the criminal justice system. There is

(01:40:57):
no such thing as collective guilt, just as there's no
such thing as collective innocence in America. You are criminally charged,
you are convicted, and you are sentenced based on your
actions or the actions of you and other people that's
party to a crime or criminal conspiracy. If some other

(01:41:20):
random half Irish, half Sicilian dude commits a rape somewhere,
they're not going to come arrest Dan O'Donnell. Well, I
don't know, Francesco Hong eventually wins the governorship, they might.
My videographer, I hope that picked up on the microphone

(01:41:43):
because I've been trying to crack him up for months
and I have been unable to finally succeeded.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
I think now it's.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
Just so insane, and it creates a culture where people
do not fear consequences because the consequence of bad actions
are ignored there and instead, instead of individual accountability, we
have collective accountability.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
That it's not the person.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
What you heard it a couple of days ago, the
unhinged liberal of the day, this crazy person, this DSA
candidate from New York who said, well, if someone.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
Steals a tube of toothpaste, we just.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
Assume that they're starving and that they need that toothpaste.
Whether they gotta eat the toothpaste, they said, well they
need to brush their teeth. Okay, what about the Penn
State frat boy coke ring. You hear about that story.
We talked about it a little yesterday. It's a bunch
of white dudes in a frat as part of their hazing.

(01:42:45):
Instead of paddling the pledges butts, they're making them pack
bricks of cocaine. I wish I was making this up.
It's a real thing. It is the dog Gondis story
I think I've seen coming out of college in a
long time. They're calling the ringleader Pablo Pledge, skebar because

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he was making pledges pack the cocaine. Yes, it's totally true. Eric,
look it up Penn State cocaine ring. The ringleader looks
like the nerdiest dude you He looks like McLevin from
the movie super Bad. I'm dead serious. He looks like mcleven.
Do we say, well, all of these.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
White frat boys, we can't throw the book at that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
We just assume they needed the cocaine to what They
needed the cocaine to get their beer fued. They needed
kegs of bush light at the frat parties. Are we
gonna deny them this basic human right to get hammered?

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
No, we absolve a politically.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
Needed constituency of wrongdoing in order to buy votes. Do
we have the evers? Do we have Evers cut from
a couple of years ago? This is going very viral.
Do we have this from the Aspen Center. I don't
know the one where he's not talking about Crowley and

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Data centers where he's talking about kids reading. Okay, put
it in there, all right. This is Tony Evers from
a few years ago. He's at the less Aspen Institute
and he's asked about that they have a focus on
social emotional learning in wiscons. This back when Ever's with

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DPI head. It's going viral right now because it's just
so insane. He says, we shouldn't focus on teaching these
kids to read because, let's face it, most of these
kids aren't going to be reading anywhere.

Speaker 14 (01:44:46):
If we believe that social emotional learning and deal making
sure that kids are socially and emotionally well, that mental
health is being taken care of, those kids that are
struggling in those areas are never going to read anyway.
So why shouldn't that be part of our school improvement planet.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
Yeah, we call that the soft bigotry of low expectations.
I believe Thomas Sole coined that phrase. I said, there's
nothing soft about it. It's insanely big in it. I
actually kind of know what Evers was saying. I gotta
stop being fair to these libs. He was saying a
lot of the emotional, social emotional kids, a lot of

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the kids. My wife was for many years as speech pathologists.
She dealt with autistic kids. They're just because of their disability,
they're not going to be able to read. And what
Evers I think was saying is look, we have to
make sure that to the best of their abilities, they're
able to function in society at some level. Sure as
hell sounded like, well, these kids can't read, they're just idiots.

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Let's not even bother See DEM's I can be totally fair.
In fact, I am always fair. But when you assume
that there is a segment of the population that just
is incapable of comporting with society's laws to the point

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where you have to bend the law and essentially give
them a literal get out of jail free card based
on their race or based on race combined with other
socioeconomic demographic factors, that is insanely racist. Not only that,
what nobody ever seems to bring up is we always

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focus on statistics regarding black criminality. Do you know the
number one, and it's not even close victimized race by crime,
it's black people. Black people are the victims of crime, homicide, rape, robbery,
car theft, all of it. Really, we're gonna We're gonna

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stand up for the criminals. Do you know the the
the A number of the teachers that I talked to
are getting beat up by their students a decade ago,
are getting beat up now by student, they're black teachers.
Why do democrats insist on siding with the assailants instead
of the victims? All right, we're going to talk about

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a woman who a lot of liberal society wants to
turn into a victim.

Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
We're going to talk.

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
About the case that I really did not want to
talk about. A mother strangles her three children. The Lindsey
Clancy murder trial has captivated the nation's attention, especially this
week as it really took off in national medium. Clancy

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is charged with the murder of her three young children,
the oldest just five years old, the youngest eight months.
She is pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity, claiming
that she had suffered not from postpartum depression but postpartum psychosis.
Postpartum psychosis is when a woman, because of hormonal changes,

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because of a lack of sleep, because of just unrelenting stress,
has a psychotic break and does something that is unexplainable,
like say, strangling her three children. Clancy, after she strangled

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the children with exercise bands in the family's basement, climbed up.
She first slit her wrists, but the wounds were described
as superficial and not wounds that would kill her. She
then threw herself out of a window. She is now
paralyzed from the chest down. Clearly, this is someone who

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is very troubled. However, she was never done diagnosed with
postpartum psychosis or postpartum depression. She wrote in her diary,
which she just kind of started keeping as she was
chronicling her own mental decline, and she went to pretty

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much every doctor that she could find in search of
I believe a diagnosis. She was put on eight nine
different mind altering medications in an effort to treat her
in a very short period of time after her eight
month old was born. This to me sounds like somebody

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who may have been setting up a potential insanity defense,
trying to shop around for a diagnosis that would allow
her to take her children's life. This is further evidenced
by the fact that she sent her husband out. The

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husband has divorced her. He is now standing with her
in her insanity defense. He does not believe that she
had the requisite presence of mind to know what she
was doing to the children was wrong. I would argue
killing herself or attempting to kill herself immediately after is
a pretty good indicator.

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
Now you don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
Yes, obviously people who are suicidal and take their on line,
they're deeply But also if you don't know what you
are doing is wrong, it's just as likely you're going
to sit there in a stupor as the police come
and arrest you.

Speaker 11 (01:50:42):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
The evidence that she knew that what she was about
to do was horrific was the fact that she sent
the husband out to a restaurant to get carry out
for the family, as well as pick up a prescription.
She said sent him to a restaurant that was way
farther out than they normally go. Not only that she

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was it was presented in evidence checking his location on
her find my or on her phone her tracking app
where you can you know, track members of your family,
She kept tracking his location. This indicates that she knew
he couldn't come home and find her doing what she did.

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Psychologist yesterday testified on behalf of the defense that while
he was treating Clancy, she told her husband Patrick that
a voice told her that she needed to kill the children.

Speaker 8 (01:51:48):
She was.

Speaker 13 (01:51:51):
Able to express a lot of emotion, but she expressed
love for him, and she had said that she heard
a male voice ordering her.

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
Telling her.

Speaker 8 (01:52:09):
That she didn't have any choice, that she had to
kill her children and then kill herself.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
I don't necessarily believe that she heard a voice. It
wasn't tons of voices, it wasn't it was just a
voice that she couldn't look folks. I just given the
totality of the evidence presented, I have a difficult time
believing the psychosis diagnosis. I believe that she was stressed.

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I believe that she no longer wanted to be a parent,
and unfortunately, I believe that she engaged in an unspeakably
evil act. How is she essentially a martyr Clancy who
is charged with the murder of her three children. She
claims it was during an episode of postpartum psychosis. She

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has become something of a martyr because women across social
media are posting themselves, including one in a very disturbing
video with her newborn baby, with the caption same Lindsay
meaning I feel the same way. That apparently sparked a

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call to child protective services, as it absolutely should have.
Why do so many women see themselves in Lindsey Clancy
Because they don't understand the difference between postpartum depression, which guys,
is very real. Fortunately, I was just talking with my

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wife about this. She said she never suffered anything even
close to that. One in nine women does, and it
is a very real and very serious thing. One in
about a thousand or so women suffers from postpartum psychosis.
There is a huge difference. It is normal to feel overwhelmed,

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sleep deprived, depressed, sad.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
It passes.

Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
Trust me, it passes for some women.

Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
It does not.

Speaker 1 (01:54:25):
You, as a random tick talker, are not experiencing the
same thing as Lindsey Clancy, at least I hope not,
because if that many women are seriously thinking about murdering
their children, we have a massive problem on our hands.
But I suspect, as with most things, it's just clout chasing.

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We are out of time for today's edition of The
Dan O'Donnell Show.

Speaker 2 (01:54:51):
Fear not, though, we are back tomorrow as we'll do
it all again. It starts at three oh six. Talk
to you then here on The Dan O'Donnell Show.