What Really Creates Affordability

Gubernatorial candidate David Crowley has, like most Democrats, regurgitated the buzzword "affordability" for months without having the faintest clue what actually drives it. Republican Tom Tiffany does, and on Tuesday's "Dan O'Donnell Show," explains his eight-point plan to actually make things affordable again. Plus, Dan discusses the death of Dolly Parton, the massive increase in illegal alien arrests, and much more!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Unfortunately, today we have to begin with a sad story.
A true cultural icon, an American legend in music, movies
and television. Dolly Parton has passed away. Her nephew and
longtime head of security, Brian Seaver, made the announcement in

(00:21):
a video posted to her social media this afternoon.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Dolly opened doors not just for me. but for her
entire family to reach the potential we didn't even know
was possible. Dolly also opened doors for generations of singers, songwriters, musicians,
and dreamers from every walk of life, and across every continent.
By her example, we believed that anything was possible. She
never saw a door she couldn't open, and the doors

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she opened made and changed history. My family and I
have shared a lifetime of beautiful memories with Dolly.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
But so have you.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
She has always been on your television, your record player,
your CD, and on your phone playlist, becoming an extended
part of your family whether you liked it or not.
Our family and the team she has entrusted with her
legacy will work diligently to ensure her spirit will live
with us forever.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Her legacy is absolutely unrivaled. She sold more than a
hundred million records worldwide in a career that spanned more
than seven decades. She had 49 top 10 country albums.
That is a record for any artist. She had 25

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number one singles on the Billboard Hot Country Songs chart.
The record she shares with Reba McEntire for female artists.
She won 10 competitive Grammy Awards, was nominated more than
50 times. She won the Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award in 2011.

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Multiple CMA Awards, ACM Awards, more than 10 apiece, of course.
She was in the Country Music Hall of Fame, inducted
in 1999, the Nashville Songwriters Hall of Fame, the Songwriters
Hall of Fame, and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
She won the National Medal of the Arts, the Kennedy

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Center Honors. She was given the Library of Congress Living
Legend Award. She has a star on the Hollywood Walk
of Fame. and she won an honorary Oscar just this
past year, actually, 2025. She was a very successful actress.
Of course, the biggest role she had was also the
title of her biggest song, arguably, 9 to 5. It

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was the second highest-grossing movie of 1980, behind only The
Empire Strikes Back, the second Star Wars film, It was
a massive hit that had very wide crossover appeal. She
also starred in Steel Magnolias, The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas,
a number of other iconic roles. Of course, she opened

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Dollywood in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee 40 years ago. It's a
huge tourist attraction, which I can only imagine is now
going to see massive business as Dolly's fans from across
the world flock to pay tribute. She had her own
record label. Dolly Records. She wrote, I had to double

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check this because I could not believe it was accurate.
She wrote more than 3,000 published songs. Jolene, that actually
might be her biggest, most enduring. That was probably her
signature song. Nine to five, I think because of the movie,
it was just and it is still incredibly popular. She

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also wrote one of the biggest selling songs of all time,
only she wasn't the one who made it massive. Whitney
Houston's biggest hit, I Will Always Love You, from the
Bodyguard soundtrack in the 1990s, written by Dolly Parton.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
No.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
No.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
My producer Doug Russell says she wrote Jolene and I
will always love you on the same day.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
That's just incredible.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Now, Dolly was just about as well known for her appearance.
She was out there. She was obviously very flamboyant in
the way she dressed the rhinestones all over her body.
In fact, her last wish was to be buried in
a soft, bed because she had a lifetime of wearing rhinestones.

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And she said, after this life is over, I finally
deserve to be comfortable.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
And she actually.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Poked fun at the people who constantly poked fun at
her appearance. She was not shy about getting facelifts and
about getting plastic surgery throughout her life. Well, in 2023,
she sat down with CBS's Nora O'Donnell, no relation to
your humble host, and talked about feeling comfortable, pardon the pun,

(05:05):
in her own skin.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
I often say I'm comfortable in my own skin, no
matter how far I've stretched it as the years go by.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Okay, that is just one of the best self-deprecating jokes
I have ever heard. And I think that's why Dolly
was so universally beloved, that I can't think of anybody
who today, by the way, she passed away at the
age of 80, because not disclosed but it was well
known that she had been in declining health for several

(05:36):
months if not years and that unfortunately there were rumors
over the past couple of weeks that she was in
very grave condition in fact there was one report uh...
about a week or so ago that spread across social
media that she had passed away it was well known
that she was declining uh..

Speaker 3 (05:57):
But there is Nobody.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
I think when you ask, obviously, we have cultural icons
today that are almost by their very nature controversial.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Right.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
When Michael Jackson passed away or Prince or try to think, well,
Whitney Houston. I mean, all of them. led relatively controversial
lies michael jackson of course most of all i mean
i would put her at the level of a prince
or not quite a michael jackson because michael jackson's celebrity

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and stardom just dwarfed anybody and anything of the time
and i would argue outside of presidents world leaders and
hopes and of course you know major religious figures muhammad
whatever He is one of the most famous people to
have ever lived. And I am not exaggerating that. But

(06:56):
Dolly Parton, I think by the nature of the music
that she put out, country music is very uniquely American.
And it doesn't quite have the same global appeal. But
she was universally beloved. There is nobody who today, after
her passing, said, well, you know, yeah, but this. I mean,
she was very into music. philanthropy, quietly giving. She was

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a humanitarian. Her appeal cut across the political spectrum. And
in that interview with Nora O'Donnell, and that self-deprecating humor
was a big reason why she just seemed so down
to earth. In that interview three years ago, she talked
about what made her so comfortable just being herself. And

(07:43):
her answer was, was actually remarkably deep.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
But I think there's a lot to be said about
being comfortable with who you are. Because I don't know
how to be anybody else. I don't want to be
anybody else. I'm not responsible for anybody else. But I'm
responsible for me. But I think there's a lot to
be said about self-confidence. I was confident in my talent.
And I was confident in who I was as a person.

(08:07):
So I've just held on to that.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
But a lot of people struggle with that. And I
wonder if that's part of your..

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Great appeal to so many people?

Speaker 6 (08:16):
Well, it might be, but I think a lot of
my self-confidence, too, is that I'm grounded in the Spirit
as well. I grew up in the church, and my.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Grandpa was a preacher.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
I also got a lot of confidence from that, you know,
believing that God loved me no matter what, and that
we're supposed to love ourselves and love one another.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
What if it really is that simple? That self-confidence, sense
of self derives from the knowledge that you are uniquely
created and loved by an almighty God, and God has
very few commandments for us. The chief among these is

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is love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord
thy God. You shall have no other gods before me.
So put your faith, put your whole heart in God.
And as Jesus said, but also I give you a
new commandment, love your neighbor as yourself. If you are selfless,
if you don't see yourself as the center of the universe,

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if you don't see yourself as sort of the end
all and be all, if you can subjugate your ego,
if you can laugh at yourself, If you are grounded
in a community, it doesn't have to necessarily be in
the church, although that really helps if you have that faith.
But if you have a community of people, and she
was very, very close with her family. I played the

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video announced by her nephew, longtime head of security. His father,
her brother-in-law, I believe, before him was her head of security.
She was very well known for being very tight. with
her family for close friends people she had known her
entire life and it was really in you know all

(10:08):
of the news all of the remembrances and everything that
had come out in the couple of hours since Dolly
Parton's death was first announced to come across that video
I think was That really kind of gave me a
little boost because it's a good reminder of where self-confidence
and where. All of us really should be grounded. President

(10:29):
Trump posting on Truth Social this afternoon, very sad to
report that Dolly Parton, one of the greatest country singers
and far beyond, ever has just passed away. This is
a true loss for millions of people. There has never
been anyone like her and never will be. In her honor,
I am lowering the American flag throughout the United States

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for a one-week period beginning tonight at 6 o'clock p.m.,
Rest in peace, Dolly. The world loves you, President Donald J. Trump.
We will have much more on the life of Dolly
Parton throughout today's edition of the Dan O'Donnell Show. Coming
up in just a couple of minutes, we will talk

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with Wisconsin Congressman and gubernatorial nominee Tom Tiffany about.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
His eight-point plan for affordability.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
It is such a strong contrast with that of his
opponent and the failure of the past four years of
Bidenomics that got us in this affordability crisis that it
is really worth highlighting. First one is about as basic
as it gets. Lower property taxes. Point number one, Tom Tiffany. Two,

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deliver a 10% working families income tax cut. Three, eliminate
state income taxes on tips and overtime for return the
full state surplus to taxpayers five lower utility costs six

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prevent sales tax hikes seven fully repeal the minimum markup
law to lower the cost of gas and other goods
at eight create more good paying jobs now a couple
of those are pretty broad and in his plan he
sort of fleshes those out and we're going to ask

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him especially how exactly do you propose to lower utility
costs how exactly do you propose to create more good
paying jobs well when you lower property taxes and when
you eliminate state taxes on things like tips and overtime
that allows people to take extra work. Sometimes as a

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bartender and a server, it allows businesses to expand. When
you cut taxes across the board on working families, it
allows them to maybe take more career risks, maybe have
more financial flexibility for more investment to prevent sales tax
hikes and Now, why was that specifically included in this?

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Because his opponent very infamously hiked the sales tax in
Milwaukee County, nearly doubling it. David Crowley is on the defensive.
right now out his record in Milwaukee County because he's
trying to claim that he delivered the biggest property tax

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cut in Milwaukee County's history.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Well, yeah, that was the year.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
It was a one time in five of the six
years that David, I went back and double checked when
he made that claim in five of the six years
Crowley has been Milwaukee County executive and He's hiked the
property tax levy from the county. You get the school levy,
the county levy, you get the local levy. There are
a bunch of different things, a bunch of different government

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entities that all have a piece of your property tax pie.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
He also is desperately.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Trying to run away from the reason he did that
one-time cut in property taxes, because the sales tax nearly doubled.
He actually says, and he has said repeatedly and said
most recently in an interview with Madison's Ellie Lala Birte
at Channel 3, that this weekend he's proud of what

(14:43):
his record was at Milwaukee. He said his proudest thing
is getting Act 12 passed where there was more state
shared revenue going to Milwaukee County. Milwaukee County was allowed
to increase its sales tax on almost everything by 0.4%.
And this was in conjunction with the city of Milwaukee,

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something that David Crowley and his BFF, Milwaukee Mayor Cavalier Johnson,
proposed together in their negotiations with the state legislature several
years ago, that the city of Milwaukee was going to be,
for the first time, issuing a 2%.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
City sales tax.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
This is on top of of the 0.4% sales tax
hike that's for all of Milwaukee County. If you purchase
something now in the city of Milwaukee, it is going
to cost 2.4% more than it did before Cavalier Johnson
and David Crowley signed their sales tax increases. Now, you

(15:45):
would think, you would think that that nearly doubling the
sales tax that people pay in milwaukee county would lead
to massive massive budget surpluses hasn't in fact crowley's budget
faces a structural deficit of more than $ 160 million in

(16:08):
five years because it is continued mismanagement of county finances.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
In fact, A.J.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Byatt-Poor, TV reporter for CBS 58 in Milwaukee, called him
out on this when people were freaking out after they
got their property tax bills and their... taxes dramatically increased
this past December. Then, in short order, came the news that, hey,

(16:40):
Milwaukee County was still running a massive deficit, so buy
it poor. Ask the obvious question. Hey, you nearly doubled
the county sales tax. You're taking in more than $ 100
million per year. How is this budget still not balanced?

Speaker 2 (16:56):
When he watches this story and they say, But what
the heck?

Speaker 4 (16:59):
You nearly doubled the county sales tax and now you're
saying it didn't solve our problems?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Well, we've been saying that this never was going to
solve our problems from the very beginning. And we continue
to push, actually, for what was actually needed.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
What was actually needed?

Speaker 1 (17:16):
More money from taxpayers outside of Milwaukee County? Even more
property taxes? Yes, that is what it was.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
More, more, more.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
More bailouts, more taxes, more of you paying for David
Crowley's failures. When we come back in just three minutes,
Republican gubernatorial nominee Tom Tiffany joins us to outline his
eight-point plan to make things in Wisconsin more affordable. President
Trump ordering the nation's flags to half-staff starting at 6 p.m.

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tonight for the next week. I think that is appropriate.
And you'll notice it is not at all controversial. Nobody
has said, well, wait a second. Why, for a country singer,
are we lowering the nation's flags to half-staff? This is
the appeal, the broad, universal appeal of Dolly Parton. Just
somebody who, it is so rare, somebody who literally, it seems...

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everybody seemed to like. You know what a rare quality
that is in America? Name one thing that we can
all agree on. If I were to say something to
the effect of puppies are cute.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Oh, so you don't like kittens?

Speaker 5 (18:28):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
You want to just like drown kittens? Is that what
you're saying? This is why if you don't have to be,
don't go online.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
But if you say, hey, Dolly Parton was one of
the most talented human beings to ever live in the
field of entertainment.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I don't think you get a whole lot of disagreement.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Tom Tiffany, Republican gubernatorial nominee, is outlining his eight-point plan
for making Wisconsin more affordable, and he is on a tour.
across the state, basically crisscrossing the state. He's been in
rural Wisconsin, suburban Wisconsin. He was in my neck of
the woods this morning, and he joins us now on

(19:12):
the Dan O'Donnell Show.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Sir, always great to talk to you. Welcome back.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Good to join you, Dan, and may Dolly rest in peace.
She was truly an icon, as you said, and something
that a lot of people may not know, one of
her greatest philanthropic efforts was reading, was literacy. She would
engage with states who would choose to work with her

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to implement the reading program that Dolly had established to
help kids to be able to read well. And so, yeah,
she did that quietly. But, you know, something that would
not be unexpected of Dolly Parton to do something that's
good for American society.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
And, you know, that's that's it.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
It was she lived so big, so boldly, but all
of her charitable and philanthropic efforts were We're very quiet.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
That is an excellent point, sir.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Obviously, we could talk about Dolly Parton and I think
talk about our favorite songs for the next half hour.
But we need to talk about affordability because your opponent really.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Made this an issue.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
And this is the Democrat talking point, as though the
way Joe Biden and Democrats who control Congress in 2021
didn't cause the hyperinflation that made everything unaffordable and Crowley,
of course, is proposing to double down on the exact
same failures.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
We'll get into that later.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
But you have responded, essentially, and gone on offense yourself
with this eight-point plan. Lower property taxes, working families, income
tax cut, eliminate state income taxes on tips and overtime,
returning the state surplus to taxpayers, lower utility costs. create

(21:00):
good-paying jobs. How do you, as governor, propose creating more
good-paying jobs in this state?

Speaker 5 (21:09):
So I think there's a few things. One is, it
is tax policy. When you have lower taxes, people say,
I can keep more of my money, and they will
build businesses here. You have much more entrepreneurial activities. But also,
if you're going to lower taxes, you also oftentimes make

(21:30):
sure that there's a reasonable regulatory environment. And we talked
about that a little bit. I did in my speech
this morning, you know, in regards to state government with
the Department of Safety and Public Services. They sometimes are
so burdensome with some of the occupations, it discourages people

(21:50):
from getting into certain occupations. So there's a variety of
things that we can do. Today, we were emphasizing in
regards to tax policy. And what's part of the reason
why Milwaukee County doesn't have perhaps as vigorous a job
growth as it could have, as vigorous of businesses being created? Remember, Dan,

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we're 40th in the country, 40th in new business development.
And that's because of high taxes. And that certainly afflicts
Milwaukee County. When you have a county executive like David Crowley,
who has raised property taxes five times to the tune
of $ 9 million, and the one year he didn't, he

(22:31):
doubled the sales tax when the state legislature basically bailed
out Milwaukee County. And with all of that additional revenue,
they're still projecting a $ 169 million deficit over the next
five years. That is clearly mismanagement. We cannot allow a
failed Milwaukee County politician to run the state of Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
And that's why, as one of your eight points, you
want to prevent sales tax hikes. The big one that
I think you and Crowley are sort of battling on
is a repeal of the minimum markup law to lower
the cost of gas and other goods. The minimum markup
law is sort of a remnant from the Great Depression

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and where you can't have what are known in retail
as lost leaders. You can't intentionally sell something at a
loss in order to entice somebody to come in. This
is exactly how Black Friday sales were run for years
before everybody bought everything online. So for gasoline, you have

(23:37):
to market up at a certain amount so that you...
I guess can't sell gas as a loss leader to
try to get people into your convenience store. Crowley says
you stole that idea from him, which is sort of laughable, Tom,
because Republicans have been talking about repealing the minimum markup

(24:01):
law forever. And you want to fully repeal it. He
doesn't sound like he wants a full repeal. Am I
getting that right?

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Yeah, that's correct. So, um, We need to find every
way possible to bring energy prices down. And there's some
things we can't control, like the global price of crude
oil and gasoline. But as a governor, you can do
certain things. And one of them is to repeal the
minimum markup. But we go beyond gasoline. We say repeal
the minimum markup law, period. And Crowley is just saying

(24:32):
it in regards to gasoline. But you are absolutely correct.
I was in the legislature a decade ago when we
we have been talking about that for a long time.
I remember my first year in the legislature in 2011.
This was one of the hot topics. Now, it did
not get done, but we've been trying to do it
for a long time. And if elected as governor, we're

(24:54):
going to get it.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
So this afternoon, Crowley said something that is really making waves.
In an interview with the Associated Press, he said he
did not support the constitutional amendment that is being placed
on the ballot that would prohibit the use of a
partial veto to increase taxes or fees. This, of course,

(25:21):
is in response to the infamous 400-year ban. veto that
governor evers issued and the cliff's notes version that people
from out of state tom i know you talk to
as a member of congress a lot of people a
lot of members from out of state a lot of
people in washington dc when i try to explain what
happened and how we have a four hundred year increase

(25:44):
in our property taxes people from out of state do
not believe that what governor evers did was constitutional it
Pretty plainly was not, but the liberal Wisconsin Supreme Court
allowed him to do it anyway. He basically used his
partial veto power to change a couple of numbers around.

(26:05):
So we now have to pay potentially hundreds more on
our property tax bills for the next 400 years until
I believe it was 2425. is when that's officially going
to sunset in response republicans in the state legislature have
a constitutional amendment on the ballot that would prohibit using

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the partial veto to increase taxes or fees from government
crowley says he will not vote for that amendment and
he i guess likes the idea of another four hundred
year veto where do you stand on that constitutional amendment
And what do you make of your opponent's position?

Speaker 5 (26:51):
I support the constitutional amendment. It's as very simple as that.
And what David Crowley is thinking about is if he
would become governor, he would have unfettered power. I mean,
that's really what this is about, is putting just unfettered
power in the executive, in the governorship. And that's not
how it should work. There should be checks and balances

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amongst the three co-equal branches of government. What he's saying is,
let's just give the governor unfettered power. And that's not
how it should work. There should be give and take.
The various branches of government should work as the Constitution
lays it out to do and I don't understand for

(27:37):
the life of me why he would not support that
constitutional amendment other than, are we going to have a
Milwaukee County politician who is a big spender, running deficits,
raising taxes on a regular basis? He just wants to
have unfettered control in the governor's office. And it's just

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another reason why we can't have him as governor here
in Wisconsin. or we're going to become a failed state
like Illinois or Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I believe the quote he gave the Associated Press's Scott
Bauer was that this amendment was, quote, an effort by
Republicans to rig the game in their favor. By reining
in the power of the executive to literally use a
veto pen to create affirmative spending, that the legislature never authorized.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
I mean, we already went through this in the 1990s.
You remember this well.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
I mean, when Tommy Thompson, a Republican, was using the
line item veto, the Frankenstein veto, the Vanna White veto,
the voters of Wisconsin reigned that in. No Frankenstein vetoes.
No Vanna White vetoes, where you turn over individual letters
like Vanna White used to on the Wheel of Fortune
game show. Frankenstein vetoes, where you're crossing things out to

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create like Frankenstein from parts of different paragraphs, whole new paragraphs.
That was made unconstitutional. The Wisconsin Supreme Court just rolled, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
As long as you're doing it with numbers and not letters,
it's perfectly fine. And this is, I think, symptomatic of
an out-of-control executive. But unless I'm incorrect about this, That's

(29:29):
what David Crowley wants. It seems to me like just
as you said, he wants unfettered power to do whatever
he wants and raise whatever tax he wants when his
budgets get busted, just like they were in Milwaukee County.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
Well, what we're seeing here is a pattern and it's
developing over the last week or two where he blames
Scott Walker going way back when Governor Walker was county executive.
I mean, that's 16 years ago. He blames the legislature.
He always invokes President Trump's name. It's always blaming somebody else.

(30:03):
Is that what we want in a chief executive in Wisconsin?
Because a chief executive, a governor, is going to take
responsibility for what happens in our state and is going
to provide leadership. It is not leadership when you're always
blaming someone else. And we need someone that is going
to have an even keel, go to Madison, make sure

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and do the right things for the people of the
state of Wisconsin, let them keep more of their money,
make sure they're not overregulated, audit all of state government
to make sure that we root out the fraud and waste,
and just bring plain old common sense to Madison. That's
what we need, and that's the distinction between me and
David Crowley. He's going to point fingers at others for

(30:50):
his failures. And there will be legion, just like in
Milwaukee County, if you would become governor. I'm going to
say the buck stops with me. The decisions I make
are going to benefit the state of Wisconsin. And I
accept responsibility for that.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
I mean, this would be like you blaming Dave Obie
for votes you take in Congress. I mean, somebody who
has it just it blows my mind. that the buck
stops with anybody but Dave Crowley. And I do believe
voters see through that. It is about accountability. It is
about affordability. Yes, eight-point plan from Tom Tiffany, my guest

(31:29):
here on the Dan O'Donnell Show. Sir, it is always
great talking to you. Best of luck on the rest
of your tour. We, of course, will have you on
again soon.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
More taxes, or excuse me, more money in your... pockets
as taxpayers of wisconsin we're not going to take more
of your money.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Get more taxes that would be like david crowley's uh...
campaign slogan effect you could just put that on t-shirts
you know like how obama had hope and change crowley
would just be tax and spend because that's what's been
going on in milwaukee county is tom tiffany republican candidate
for governor as we talk about affordability and compare and

(32:11):
contrast Tom Tiffany's plan, which he outlined just a couple
of minutes ago here on the Dan O'Donnell Show with
the record and proposals of David Crowley. He gave an
interview to Cap Times today, Crowley did, that nobody I
think is focusing on, but I am. Because he is

(32:31):
doubling down on the exact policies that got these United
States into such a financial mess under Biden. It's not
that he would Milwaukee County our Wisconsin. It's that he
would Bidenize it. More government spending on precisely the things

(32:54):
that a free market needs to dictate. The fundamental problem
is that as he's cosplaying as a moderate compared to
Francesca Hong in He has fundamentally the same policies she does.
And by the way, DEI and environmental green hysteria have

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been hallmarks of Crowley's tenure as Milwaukee County's executive. We'll
dive into that coming up in the five o'clock hour.
Of course, we continue to mourn the passing of Dolly Parton.
We'll work in some Dolly Parton bumper music. It's kind
of difficult. Because obviously we can't really play bumper music.

(33:38):
We can't play any copyrighted music on podcasts, even if
we're talking about it, even if it is part of
something we talk. If there's a news peg. We sort
of can't, so that limits what we're able to do.
And also, this is why we're, at least for the
time being, until we can come to some sort of
agreement to allow music that we can play on the

(34:01):
radio to also be played on podcasts, we unfortunately can't
play our longtime theme for the unhinged liberal of the day.
And I am not going to attempt to sing Gnarls
Barkley's crazy a cappella.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
So we're going to have to do this dry.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
As it were, it is time now to name the
unhinged liberal of the day. It is Mark Pocan, who
is notorious for being, for lack of a better phrase,
a Twitter troll. The man sits on X. And if
you're a prominent conservative and you didn't find Mark Pocan

(34:40):
in your mentions, pathetically attempting to engagement farm off of
people with bigger followings than him, you are you have
a really made in the conservative movements what he does
well he was trying to read on president trump for
watching this weekend's formula one race through the streets of

(35:02):
washington dc the freedom to fifty he was very quickly
reminded it was in indy car race he was ratio
d beyond a belief he got the dreaded community notes
And people reminded him, hey, IndyCar is coming to your state,
you idiot. In like a couple of weeks, he's deleted

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the tweet.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
Womp.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Womp.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Despite how hyperactive I became as a child and for
most of my adulthood, I even knew at like age five,
that this show is way too spazzy for me. I
never got into Pee-wee's Playhouse. My avoidance of it, I think,

(35:53):
was justified when Paul Rubens, who really got a bad
rap for going into that.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Theater where he was bussing. He was a talented dude.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
And I respect Pee-wee Herman's game, right?

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Just never got into it. I never got into..

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Pee-wee's Playhouse. Although this is Generation X catnip. It's like He-Man,
Pee-wee's Playhouse.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
He-Man, by the way.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Huge monster hit on streaming. It was a big bomb
in the box office. Amazon Studios didn't even care because
it knew that every 47 year old man who played
with He-Man toys as a kid and is now buying
He-Man toys.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
For their kids and even grandkids. You go to Target or.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Walmart toys aisle, the exact same He-Man and Teenage Mutant
Ninja Turtle figures that I played with when I was
a little kid. I'm not talking about like updated versions.
I'm talking about the exact same model of the toys
are there.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
It's total nostalgia bait.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Amazon didn't even care that the movie bombed because it
knew that every 47 year old Gen X-er, older millennial,
I guess pre-boomers, I'm going to call us, in that
starting to get up towards old age.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
What do they call 50? The old age of youth
and the youth of old age.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yep, I'm getting there mighty quick. They knew that every
dude was going to watch He-Man. But on Pee-Wee's Playhouse,
the word of the day meant everybody screams. I think
everybody needs to scream fraud at David Crowley every time
he says the word affordability. His policies and the policies

(37:54):
of his party have made things objectively less affordable. David
Crowley himself made housing and made everything that you purchase
in Milwaukee County objectively less affordable through tax hikes. We
will get back into that. It's sort of serving as

(38:16):
an unofficial theme of today's program.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Affordability. There I said it. Everybody starts screaming.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
If you would like to join the Dan O'Donnell Show
and scream the word affordability at my producer, Doug, Carpetland
USA Flooring Center Talk and Text Line is open.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
414-799-1130. Please don't do that. He's had a stressful day.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
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the daily Trump date, weekday... Daily rundown of all things
going on in Donald Trump's Washington today. Of course, the

(38:59):
big news, the death of Dolly Parton at the age
of 80. It was announced this afternoon. President Trump almost
immediately afterwards ordering the nation's flags to half mast from
6 p.m. tonight for one day. He also, in a
post on Truth Social this afternoon, announced that the Strait

(39:20):
of Hormuz is now clear of all remaining mines, underwater
mines that had basically made it.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Impassable.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
The president posting on Truth Social that for the first time,
and you're going to have to forgive me because my.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Notes on my.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Computer just crashed a little bit. I have the Truth
Social post right in front of me. At least I did.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
I've just been informed by the United States Navy this
about six hours ago. I would say eight o'clock this morning.
I've just been informed by the United States Navy that
all mines have been removed and or detonated from within
the international waters of the Strait of Hormuz. Iran has
been notified that any ship or boat placing new mines
will be immediately and systematically destroyed through Space Force. We

(40:13):
are watching every square inch of the Strait. I want
to pause for effect there. Through Space Force, we are
watching every square inch of the strait, as we are
also with Pickaxe Mountain and the already destroyed three other

(40:34):
nuclear sites. There is a zero tolerance policy on mine
placement in full force and effect. Thank you for your
attention to this matter, President Donald J.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Trump.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
You realize that in Trump's first term The creation of
Space Force was such a joke that Netflix greenlit and
aired a couple seasons of a show called Space Force
starring Steve Carell and John Malkovich. It was actually reasonably entertaining.
And there was a sort of undercurrent was making fun

(41:08):
of President Trump for doing something so stupid as to
create a new branch of the military called Space Force.
which we can now use to monitor everything on Earth
through our network of satellites that we can basically use
to deploy weaponry that flies so high and so close

(41:32):
to space that nobody can shoot it down.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
So we're all clear. Big joke. Trump is a buffoon.
Space Force. What a joke. Don't think anyone's laughing now.
Are the Iranians laughing now?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Six years ago, the guy basically used a very, very
high flying drone to take out Qasem Soleimani, Iran's highest
ranking general. Biggest news of the day by far, though,
is ICE arrests. ICE announcing today that they arrested nearly

(42:10):
50,000 people in July, the highest single monthly arrest total
during the second Trump administration. The July arrest tally. of
49,571 marks a 15% jump from the 43,021 arrests a
month earlier and a 70% increase from 29,241 in February
in the aftermath of the Trump administration's enforcement surge in Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Now, you can tell How the media.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Is absolutely freaked out about this because CBS News has
an absolute panic attack when reporting on this. Doug, do
we not have that CBS report? Not on Dolly Parton.
It was from this morning. Now, I guess we don't

(43:12):
have it in yet.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. A little bit of
a oversight there. It was the.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Reporter basically freaking to Tony Docapil that all of this
was the result of political pressure by people like Stephen
Miller in the Trump White House because they desperately want
to get a figure of 2,000 ICE arrests per day.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Now, how could they possibly do this?

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Why are there not mobs forming like there were during
the Battle of Minneapolis. All right, this is how quickly
my producer works. That was like a land speed record.
If you were an IndyCar pit crew, or as Mark
Pocan calls them, a Formula One pit crew, because he

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apparently doesn't know the difference, according to his now-deleted tweet,
you would be like all universe here. He got that
cut up In like six seconds flat. Way to go,
producer Doug. This is the reporter whose name I still
don't know. I've been looking for this for like 20
straight minutes. I have no idea who this guy is,
but he is like personally affected by the fact that

(44:25):
illegal alien criminals are being deported at a record close.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
They are under tremendous political pressure from the White House
and people like Stephen Miller, one of the president's top advisers,
to expand immigration enforcement and to record up to 2,000
daily arrests. Historically, under Republican and Democratic administrations, most ICE
arrests have occurred in local jails, state and federal prisons,
away from the public's view, Tony. But to enforce President

(44:51):
Trump's dramatic crackdown on illegal immigration, which is not just
targeting criminal egregious offenders, more ICE agents are being placed
on the streets of American towns and cities to make
arrests in broad daylight in public. That is a strategy, Tony,
that is more likely to create the dangerous and often
tragic situations we have seen here in Houston and also

(45:12):
in Maine.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
So why?

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Would there be a dangerous situation because liberals can't help
themselves and freak out that report totally wrong in fact
it's been the exact opposite i'll bet you you had
no idea that ice arrests and deportations were up by
seventy percent after the massive surge of ice agents in

(45:37):
the cities across the country.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Remember all the fear mongering there was some uh..

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Uh..

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Woman who's apparently on the Civic Media Network radio host,
which probably explains why you've never heard of her. She
was stoking the fear that ICE agents had booked a
block of rooms at a hotel in Milwaukee, in downtown Milwaukee.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
The hotel, it.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Was the Hilton or the Hyatt, one of them, I
don't know. No, the government has not booked any rooms.
This is a completely fake report. They were freaking out
about this because, oh, my gosh, the surge.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
The surge, the surge.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
The Trump administration is dramatically increasing its arrests because it's
doing so in secret. What it's doing is increasing partnerships
with counties, even Democrat ones that don't want to advertise this,
but are very, very quiet because everybody is afraid of

(46:37):
the left wing crazies. This is what you have to
understand about the Democratic Party. They are terrified of the
Francesca Hong wing. The Francesca Hong socialist wing is the
Democratic Party. They have successfully infiltrated it. The Democrats can't
win without the socialist crazy vote. So they all have
to kowtow to them. And they live in perpetual fear

(47:00):
that the DSA will someday very soon hit a critical
mass and be able to win primaries again.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Like they almost did in Wisconsin. I think about this.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
The Democrats literally spent almost a year rigging their primary.
And Francesca Long, who was virtually unknown back in December
outside of her state assembly district in Madison, very nearly
won the nomination. in the ultimate swing state. This is
not the borough of Brooklyn. It's Wisconsin in the upper Midwest.

(47:36):
And she came within three, four thousand votes statewide of
winning that party's nomination. The socialist takeover isn't coming, folks.

Speaker 5 (47:47):
It's here.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
So they're all terrified. that the DSA psychopaths will take
to the streets. But Democrats realize that if their cities
and counties are crime-infested hellholes while the national crime rate declines, hello,
David Crowley, why have murders increased in your county while

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they decreased nationwide by the single biggest margin year to
year in the history of record-keeping that goes back to
1900 because it's failed policy. It is failed Democrat policy.
But Democrats are saying very, very quietly to the federal government,
all right, take this guy out of our jail.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
No muss, no fuss. He's gone.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Not only that, ICE agents are, unlike what this reporter
told a nationwide audience on CBS This Morning this morning,
They're just doing it very secretly. They are using plain
clothes officers in beat up cars, teams of two that
will basically stake out their targets, wait for them to

(48:57):
be isolated and alone, take them into custody and deport them.
And this notion that, well, we're not targeting criminals.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Do you know? what the crime.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Rate is of illegal aliens in the united states Doug,
what percentage of undocumented immigrants in the United States have
committed a crime?

Speaker 2 (49:24):
It is 100%.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Doug says he disagrees. You can read the federal statute.
Would you like me to read the federal statute? Unauthorized
entry into the United States is, in fact, a federal crime.
In fact, everybody who is snuck back in following deportation
is a felon. To come back in after you have

(49:45):
already been deported is, in fact, a federal felony, punishable
by more than one year in federal prison under federal law. Now,
we can argue that about whether or not this law
should be enforced against people who have been living here forever.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
And the sort of compassionate, conservative.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Bush-era Republican had said, Doug's raising his hand.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Doug's got a big smile on his face. Doug, you
know what Doug is going to do?

Speaker 1 (50:14):
He's going to take all of the illegal aliens and
he's going to re-invade Iraq. That is how on board
with the Bush doctrine he is in this. I kid
because I love.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
And this is this is this is this is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
This is the debate that is going on within conservative
circles because there are the more I call it the
Chamber of Commerce Republicans who say, well, we need a
workforce and there are jobs that Americans won't do. So
we need an army of illegals. not to invade. You're
going to just send them all in helicopters. They're going

(50:48):
to find Saddam Hussein in the spider hole if.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Doug was president. I love that idea.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
We just kind of keep invading countries until there's democracy
across the Middle East. And of course, who is the
biggest Republican critic of the Bush doctrine? Donald Trump, who
started a war with Iraq.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
But I digress.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
The idea, though, that we need to import labor because
our state's dairy industry would collapse without illegal alien labor
because Americans won't be dairy farmers.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
They just won't do it. How do you know? How
do you know?

Speaker 1 (51:29):
We've had 40 years since the great amnesty of 1986
that incentivized way more illegal immigration. We have not had–
I grew up in an era where if I wanted
to go be a dairy farmer or a gardener, landscaper,

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I was not.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Going to compete with other teenagers.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
I was actually offered a job as a landscaper. I
was offered a job as a mover when I was
a teenager. I think it was Coakley Brothers Moving Company.
I did not take it because I was small and
weak and didn't want to spend my summer carrying heavy things.
And I'm still, because I didn't spend that summer carrying
heavy things, small and weak and now kind of fat.

(52:16):
So now you have teenagers who are unable to find
jobs doing things like moving. doing things like landscaping doing
things like we we are told americans won't do well
job because illegal alien labor and even legal immigrant labor

(52:37):
has pushed down the cost to companies you have a
severe undercutting in wages and i know the the argument
as well that the presence of illegal aliens does not
depress wages now because all the wages are off the
books you idiots They're paying cash at well below market
value because it is illegal to employ illegal aliens. Yet somehow,

(53:02):
a whole lot of them have jobs for cash under
the table, which also means you don't have to pay
as much in payroll taxes. Now, the crackdown in illegal
immigration should have a remarkable effect on affordability. I'll explain
how when the Dan O'Donnell show. One of the reasons

(53:23):
I think that I'm not a big country music guy
is I sort of came of age in the era
of stadium country music. where it's like, no disrespect, but
not Tim McGraw, who is the one before him, Garth Brooks.
Garth Brooks was massive in the 90s. Then he begat

(53:44):
Tim McGraw, who begat, it's sort of like the Bible,
when the New Testament does the line that led from
Adam to Jesus. It was like just Jehoshaphat begat Ezekiel.
Ezekiel begat Hezekiah. It's like Garth Brooks begat Tim McGraw.
Tim McGraw begat Keith Urban. Keith Urban begat, who's the

(54:06):
big one today?

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Kenny Chesney. Kenny Chesney begat Morgan Wallen.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
The comedian Bo Burnham does the single best parody of
stadium country music I have ever heard. And he actually says, look,
I'm not talking about Dolly Parton or Johnny Cash.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
I'm talking about Stadium Country.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
He actually does a country song called Pandering in his
2019 comedy album. I forget what it's called, but look
up on YouTube. I cannot recommend this enough. It is
the funniest, best parody of country music you will ever hear.
Modern country music as compared with the beautiful songs written

(54:51):
by like Willie Nelson, for example, Dolly Parton. I would
love to read some of the lyrics, but it's pretty profane.
You could look up, it's called pandering, but also it's,
it's on there. It's on YouTube a bunch of times
as country song. It goes viral every couple of years

(55:15):
because it's, it's so funny.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
All right.

Speaker 5 (55:20):
All right.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Here, here. This one I can actually read.

Speaker 5 (55:22):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
This is a lyric from this song.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
I walk and talk like a field hand, but the
boots I'm wearing cost three grand. I write songs about
riding tractors from the comfort of a private jet.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Oh, God.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
I could sing in Mandarin. You'd still know I'm pandering,
hunting deer, chasing trout, a bud light with the logo
facing out. Hear that subtle mandolin. That's textbook pandering. I
own a private ranch that I rarely use. I don't
like dirt.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
I mean..

Speaker 1 (56:06):
And then there's another line in there which sort of
exemplifies it. I write songs for people who do jobs
in towns I'd never move to. That is like Dolly
Parton-esque songwriting. It's called Pandering by the comedian Bo Burnham
or just country song. OK, so how does cracking down

(56:29):
on illegal immigration actually drive down unaffordability in this country
well it's pretty obvious basic supply and demand the massive
influx of illegal aliens under the biden administration served as

(56:49):
a demand shock all of a sudden there were seven
million new people in this country 10 we don't know
we have no idea and We know how many people
presented themselves to border patrol agents and said, here, I
declare refugee status. And then they were released into the
interior of the country where they would live illegally.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
They need housing. They need apartments. They need homes.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
So, too, do people who are already here. This came
right on the heels of COVID-19. What happened with home
construction During COVID-19, it ground almost totally to a halt. Well,
if supply stays the same, but demand increases by a

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factor of 10 million, prices go up. It's the scarcity principle.
The scarcer, the rarer something is, the more value people.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Assign to it.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Prices of starter homes have priced them out of the
market for people looking for starter homes. You can't buy
a little bungalow in West Allis for $ 85, 000 anymore. It's $ 250, 000, $ 300, 000.
And not only has the price gone up, so too
have interest rates because of the massive inflation and the

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Fed needing to raise interest rates to cool down inflation
during the Biden administration. There is a study that shows
a 1% increase in illegal immigrant workers in a given area.
If the area's workforce increases by 1% due to illegal immigration,

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that will correlate with a roughly 2.2% rise in local
home prices and a 1.4% rise in rent prices. The
Dallas Fed estimated that from 2021 to 2024, illegal immigration
explained about 30 percent of the home price growth and

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roughly 20 of rent growth in the average metropolitan area.
And this just accounts for demand. It just accounts for
new people are here and they need housing. Are they
often the ones who are buying the housing or renting

(59:29):
the housing?

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Nope.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
In many cities and in many states, government is subsidizing
housing for illegal immigrants. Sometimes they will rent out a hotel.
They'll say, OK, temporarily, you refugees are going to stay here.
When government is the guarantor of a rent, Who are

(59:55):
you going to, if you're a landlord, and you could
either depend on the four 22-year-old recent college grad potheads
who play video games until noon every day and just
need a couple more days to get you that rent check,
or the federal government where checks just come in and

(01:00:16):
you can basically charge them anything you want because it's
the federal government, what option are you going to take?

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Potheads? full faith and credit of the United States. Pretty obvious, right?

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
When government gets involved in a market as it has,
not just through illegal immigration, but through subsidized housing, especially
in areas that don't need it. Rent controls in New
York city, classic example of this. Why would you build

(01:00:48):
a new high rise building that the, COVID pandemic and
the rise in telework, people not going into the offices,
has created veritable ghost towns in downtowns that office buildings,
big towering office structures, are sitting empty. They're being converted

(01:01:09):
to housing. Well, if you can't charge for a brand
new building, apartment that's overlooking the hudson river and you
get a breathtaking view of new york city at sunset
you can't charge what someone is willing to pay for
it but you said nope nope nope that's a rent-controlled
apartment we say you can only show why would you

(01:01:31):
ever absorb the cost to build that you'll never recoup
your investment this is a major issue Population growth, a
demand shock, and that demand shock, by the way, isn't just.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
In the price of housing. It's the price of everything.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
What happened to government budgets when all of a sudden
you needed to go out on way more police calls,
fire calls, EMS calls? There are way more kids that
you've got to educate in your school system all of
a sudden. Kids who may or may not actually speak English,
so you need interpreters that you have to hire. Hospital systems,

(01:02:17):
the patient volume dramatically increases. The cost goes up. Government
is required to take care of these people. Someone's got
to pay for it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
It's not going to be them. It's going to be taxpayers.
New York City's former mayor, Eric Adams.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Famously said that an influx of 10,000 illegals that it
was either governor Ron DeSantis down in Florida, Greg Abbott
in Texas just dropped in New York city would quote
bankrupt the city. New York is by far the biggest
city in the United States.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
There's eight and a half million people who live there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
An increase in 10,000, according to the Democrat Adams would say,
severely strained New York's capacity. What do you think happens
when 20,000 illegals are flowing through El Paso? They're settling
in Phoenix. They're settling in in San Diego. They're settling everywhere.

(01:03:19):
Those are demand shocks for government services, for food, for
durable goods, for everything. When supply doesn't correlate to demand,
when it does not increase— and this happened during the time
America could least absorb this because the supply chain was
still largely shut down because of COVID— It's only natural

(01:03:43):
that prices would go up and go up very, very quickly. Now,
of course, illegal immigration is only part of it, but
it was a big part because you had massive demand
shock from people who are already here. They can't go anywhere.
So they're buying things, everything, anything. All of a sudden,
people want to move because they delayed it during.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
The COVID pandemic.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Well, when you've got this competition, prices go up.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Deporting. People who are competing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
With American citizens and those who are in this country
as immigrants legally, but who have no right to be
in this country, that competition, getting that competition out, especially
when they come to the country and commit crimes, not
just unauthorized entry, but other crimes. That's a no brainer.
In fact, I applaud the Trump administration's efforts. I had

(01:04:36):
been hearing rumblings about this for several weeks. that the
deportation numbers, the arrest numbers were going way up because
they're doing it in such a clandestine manner. 50,000, nearly
50,000 arrests in July by ICE and other immigration enforcement agencies,
the FBI and so forth, are assisting in this effort

(01:04:58):
when warranted. That number is expected to bump up to
2,000 a day across the country. There was a massive sting.
Virginia and I believe it was Baltimore... There's Maryland and Virginia.
I thought they were targeting Baltimore, but I could be
wrong about that. That is driving a big part of it.
You have no idea because of how effective it has

(01:05:21):
been done. That is a massive success of the Trump
administration that is not getting nearly enough credit. You're listening
to The Dan O'Donnell Show.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Stay tuned. We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
I can't think of somebody else. Think of somebody famous,
super famous.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
The Pope?

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Give me a break. That everybody loves. Popes have been
controversial since the Borgias. Popes have been controversial since St. Peter,
for goodness sakes. No head of state is universally beloved.
Honest to goodness, that everyone just loves. I think Dolly Parton.

(01:06:12):
certainly isn't the world's richest man, Elon Musk. Ever since
he got involved with politics, has been public enemy number
one for the left. I never thought I would see
the day that the same people who spent literally decades
claiming that we didn't have electric cars because it was

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a huge conspiracy by big oil would light electric cars
on fire because they didn't like the politics of the
dude who mass produced them. But alas, such is the
evolution of the political left in this country. Musk will
not face an election bribery charge in Wisconsin. In July,

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the Wisconsin Elections Commission decided that Musk very likely broke
the law when he handed out $ 1 million checks to
voters for signing a petition against activist judges. Now, this
happened right before Wisconsin's Supreme Court election. And admittedly, the

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original proposal that Musk had, that he was going to
give out $ 1 million, it was basically a lottery, but
you had to sign his petition. It was originally, you
get the money if you register to vote. That absolutely is.
That is like the dictionary definition of election bribery. Someone
told him, Elon can't do that, so it's very quickly changed.

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Specifically so, he didn't get criminal charges.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Didn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Wisconsin's Elections Commission tried to refer criminal charges anyway. And
a La Crosse County prosecutor, District Attorney Tim Greinke, who
served as special prosecutor in this case, wrote an open
letter to Musk today explaining why the state declined to prosecute.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Womp, womp, womp. Greinke is, of course, a Democrat. How
do I know this without even looking it up?

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Because no Republican and no prosecutor who is not driven
by partisan politics would have ever brought this case. Greinke
described Musk's initial post as, offering the $ 1 million checks
as a poorly worded statement that was corrected and brought

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into compliance with the law, which it absolutely was. This,
in fact, showed that there was no intent to bribe voters.
There was no quid pro quo. You get money in
exchange for voting, refraining to vote, registering to vote, anything

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like that. That is election bribery. Musk realized, oh, wait, wait,
can't do that here. We're going to change it. You
are allowed to give out prizes for signing a petition.
For example, why do you think I Heart Radio wants
you to text in to win a trip for two

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to Las Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
And $ 1, 000?

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Why do you suppose that is? Because now you are
on the list. We've got your cell phone number. Why
do you think you go to our website for some
of the contests and you have to sign in? You've
got to have an iHeartMedia account. Why do you suppose

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that is? Because now we don't have your data, so
to speak. There was paranoia about Musk. He was going
to steal everybody's data. That's clearly not happening. We, though,
are able to use cookies to track. We want to
know what it is you're listening to on the iHeartRadio.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Basically, we.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Use your data to try to sell you stuff that
you would be more likely to buy. That's how it works.
Would that be bribery? Are we trying to bribe you
to listen to this? Yeah, that's kind of how radio
contests work. was must trying to bribe people to sign

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his petition and become informed about the danger of activist judgment. Yeah,
that's kind of how it works. It was legal and
it was always obviously legal. Dolly tied with Reba for
number one hot country singles on the Billboard chart with
twenty five. number one songs, 25 number one country songs,

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most ever for a female artist. Dolly Parton shares the
record with Reba. The stats on this woman are unreal.
She sold more than 100 million records, 49 top 10
country albums. She wrote more than 3,000 songs, including one
that could be regarded as one of the top songs

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of all time. I mean, in terms of Volume, the
number of people who bought the Bodyguard soundtrack because of
I Will Always Love You by Whitney Houston, the single.
It's still one of the best-selling singles and best-selling albums
in the history of music.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
She wrote that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Dolly Parton was the writer of I Will Always Love You.
I actually learned today at the start of the show
from producer Doug. She wrote that on the same day
she wrote Jolene.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
I bet.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Two of the most iconic songs country or otherwise ever
10 Grammy awards, Grammy lifetime achievement award. She won an
honorary Oscar. She's in basically every hall of fame that
you can be in country music, rock and roll songwriters,
Nashville songwriters. Uh, she has won a government awards, national

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medal of the arts, Kennedy center honors library of Congress,
living legend award, uh, I think the best testament to
who she was and the legacy she leaves behind, I
don't know anybody who just dislikes her. Now, okay, we got,

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people are texting. Gotta be a living person. Someone goes,
Princess Diana.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
Are you nuts?

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
No, absolutely not Princess Diana. When she was alive? Oh
my goodness. The people who are loyal to Queen Elizabeth,
they thought she was a coke-addicted trollop running off with
Dodi Al-Fayed.

Speaker 6 (01:13:13):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Dan O'Donnell saying Princess Di was a coke-addicted trollop?

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
The British tabloid press?

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Got to be alive because deceased figures universally beloved George Washington,
unless you are a red coat. Although I actually read
today it was the anniversary of the sacking and burning
of Washington, D.C. during the War of 1812, August 25th, 1814.
The British sailed past Mount Vernon. And instead of stopping

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to set it on fire, as they were doing to
pretty much everything else, they saluted the general. That's how
much respect he commanded. That is actually a historical fact.
It is not just a legend that's been built up.
There are so many legends surrounding George Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
You wonder which are true. That actually is. Keanu Reeves.
That's a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Keanu Reeves is an absolutely universally beloved figure.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Pat Sajak. No, he went political. A lot of people.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Paul McCartney. That's a good one. I was thinking McCartney
as well. Someone else just texted. It was the caller
saying Dick Van Dyke as well. Dick Van Dyke has
been a little outspoken politically recently.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
You know, once people turn 100 years old, they get
so mouthy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
It's like they come of age politically. No, I would
say Dick Van Dyke. I love Dick Van Dyke. I
think Dick Van Dyke is one of the greatest actors
in the history. I grew up watching the Dick Van
Dyke show. No, I'm not actually 85 years old. Nick
at Night, that was one of my favorites. Mary Tyler
Moore and Dick Van Dyke as Robin Laura Petrie. Maury

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Amsterdam as Rose Marie as the co-workers. That cast was incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Absolutely incredible. I would say Dick Van Dyke, everybody gone,
of course, except Dick Van Dyke, who is 101 now.
I mean, the man is insanely, insanely old. No, God,
Muhammad Ali passed away. No, my God, Muhammad Ali, are
you kidding me? Stripped to the heavyweight title for draft dodging. Yeah,

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it would have been Betty White. I mean, Betty White
passed away some years ago, just shy of her 100th birthday.
But Dolly Parton, Reba McEntire, Keanu Reeves is a great.
Somebody said Tom Hanks. Nope.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
No, no, absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
I can't even tell you how many times I have
been emailed or texted insisting that Tom Hanks was at
Epstein Island. He most certainly was not, despite what the
random list you saw on the Internet says.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
We spent so much time, Doug. Trying to find the
universally beloved. Okay, folks, stop saying dead celebrities. You've got
to be alive. I am saying the living person who
was as Sam Kinison, Pavarotti, Paul Newman, all dead.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
Oh, here's a good one. Julie Andrews. Julie Andrews still alive. Yes,
that is a great one.

Speaker 5 (01:16:26):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Julie Andrews. Liam Neeson.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Has he?

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
No, actually, he had a controversy. He supposedly said his
friend or somebody he loved was killed. I don't want
to get the story wrong because I'll be I'll be
accused of being a racist. He said it was like
he his friend was killed by a black guy. And
he said he was just he went out one night

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looking for some black guy, any black guy to beat up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
And I'm like, oh, Liam, yeah, yeah, you got it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
You know, you got you didn't just look for random
kidnappers who took your son. You look for the kidnappers can't.
So we've been focused on this so long. Both of
us forgot to figure out what the word is in
the I Heart Radio Music Festival flyaway contest. That is
the only reason that people listen to this show.

Speaker 5 (01:17:27):
If.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
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(01:17:48):
win round-trip airfare for two, ground transportation, two nights hotel
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If you enter this contest, you will receive a text
confirming your entry. Standard data and message rates apply in

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this nationwide contest. Bob Newhart, is he still alive? I
feel like he passed away. Carol Burnett again. I think
she's still alive. She is still alive. I don't want
this to turn into some like macabre game of dead
or alive. Mel Brooks is another one. Neil Diamond.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Got one. Got one. Got one. Got one. Morgan Freeman.
Everybody just loves his voice. Seriously. Who would you want?

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
As as your life passes before your eyes you're you're
going to the pearly gates who do you want narrating
the story of your life i would go with morgan
freeman yeah morgan freeman or perhaps like michael buffer like
Let's get ready for heaven. I think they're just amazing voices.

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Robin Williams, again, disease. LeVar Burton from Reading Rainbow. I
feel like he may have gotten political, but LeVar Burton,
who didn't? Speaker, we were talking earlier about Gen X
and elder millennial bait. Reading Rainbow was it. I watched
the heck out of Reading Rainbow. Loved me some Reading Rainbow.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
Take a look. It's in a book, The Reading Rainbow.
That was my jam.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
The Wisconsin Elections Commission is thinking about possibly, maybe, potentially
sending a letter and potentially, maybe, possibly, conceivably asking some

(01:19:59):
questions about why the City of Milwaukee Election Commission screwed
up so royally. How exactly this absentee ballot debacle happened.
The Wisconsin Elections Commission is going to vote next week

(01:20:20):
on sending a letter to Paulina Gutierrez, the Milwaukee Election
Commission executive director, requesting they answer several questions about central
count mistakes, not just the one earlier this month in
which an assistant director, top assistant, Marisha Harris, possibly screwed

(01:20:51):
up so royally that she downloaded the wrong data, not
vote totals, onto five of nine flash drives from five
of the nine high-speed vote tabulators for transport over to
Milwaukee County's courthouse to be reported with the county's vote totals.
There was about a 90-minute delay. We did not get

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results in that primary election until 2 a.m. A couple
of days later, CBS 58 reporter A.J. Byatpour posted a
screenshot of video that his photographer shot of the moment
that those audit logs were accidentally downloaded. Gutierrez's explanation that, well,
you know, you just couldn't tell that you were downloading

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an audit log and not the vote total disappeared because
there were giant pop-ups, one on top of the other,
that said, do you want to download the audit data?
Click yes or no. Click to confirm. Once you confirmed,
it would say, OK, you are now downloading audit log data.

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The Wisconsin Elections Commission is doing its level best to
sanitize the questions asked. Here is the verbiage of the
letter that would be sent. They have to vote on
whether or not to send a letter. Now, this is

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how government bodies work. But this is what it said.
Based on the public reporting, we are not aware of
any compromise of the vote tally for the city of
Milwaukee or the state of Wisconsin in any way. Nevertheless,
mistakes and resulting delays can undermine the public's confidence in
the election process. We're just sort of assuming that there
was no compromise of the vote tally. The whole reason

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that I immediately demanded an FBI investigation is because we
don't know. Why should we give anybody in the Milwaukee
Election Commission the benefit of the doubt? What have they
done to earn anyone's trust? The former executive director, Claire

(01:23:03):
Woodall Vaughn, who, by the way, was unceremoniously fired a
couple of years ago right before the twenty twenty four
presidential election and we still don't know why mayor cavalier
johnson relieved her of her duties said well it's not
performance-based but dot clary you gotta go she was apparently
difficult to work with in twenty twenty Ryan Chu of

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the Elections Group, a private entity hired by money from
Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, who essentially tried to take over
the administration of elections in five different Democrat run cities
across the state in direct violation of state law. He
sent a letter to Woodall Vog after she forgot a

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flash drive at Central Count and had to go back
or the police escort that she had had to go
back and retrieve it. Once the vote was in and
Biden had overtaken Trump to win Wisconsin and almost certainly
the presidency with Wisconsin's votes in, Chu wrote an email

(01:24:15):
to Claire Woodall-Vogg saying, wow, Claire, you really have a
flair for the dramatic, delivering just the margin needed at
3 a.m. I bet you had those results in at
11 o'clock, but just wanted to keep the world waiting.

(01:24:37):
She responded, ha ha, I just wanted everyone to know
I had been up for 24 straight hours. What did
Chu mean by just the margin needed? And why is
the woman? responsible for running elections in Wisconsin, responsible for
counting all of the votes in Milwaukee. Why is she
getting an email from someone who has no business working

(01:25:00):
with her on administering elections saying, Claire, you delivered just
the margin of votes needed very clearly the margin needed
for Joe Biden to win. Nobody has ever explained that
email except to say, well, it was a joke.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Why is the Wisconsin Elections Commission or anyone else just
assuming that someone who saw she was downloading the audit
log five times but continued to do so? Either she
is way too illiterate and frankly stupid to work in evidence.

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Any adult capacity, let alone one as important as helping
to run elections in a city that produces hundreds of
thousands of votes for her to count. Maybe we should
get her some old VHS tapes of LeVar Burton and
Reading Rainbow until she can figure out the difference between

(01:26:04):
the letters that spell audit log and the letters that
spell votes. Either she is way too incompetent and dumb
to be in this position and needs to be removed immediately,
or there was something corrupt. Weck is demanding, or asking

(01:26:25):
very nicely, if it approves this strongly worded letter to
the Milwaukee Election Commission, to publicly release the audit logs
of each central count tabulator immediately. which will conclusively prove
that no unauthorized activity occurred between the time the audit
report was initially run, the time the error was recognized,

(01:26:46):
and when each central county, each central count tabulator, little
typo there, ultimately produced a report of its unofficial results.
While many observers from both political parties and members of
the media were present in observing the tabulators during the
download of results, it is important that the public at
large be provided with a definitive record that shows no

(01:27:07):
activity was conducted on the tabulators during the time period
between the download of the audit logs and the results report. Exactly,
I do not, as I have repeatedly said. have evidence
of or even believe that anything was fudged, that any
votes were changed or added late. But I can't rule

(01:27:31):
that possibility out. And so long as somebody is so
incompetent that they continue to serve, not just as a
vote counter or a poll worker, but as one of
the top officials at the Milwaukee Election Commission, I can't
rule out that there was something corrupt or hinky going on. Two,

(01:27:52):
provide a plan for how MEC, Milwaukee Election Commission staff,
will be trained to properly produce the unofficial tabulation results
report for future elections. We consider, suggest considering the following questions.
Could there be a documentation such as a checklist provided
to observe?

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
Oh, dear God.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
So it's the observers need to make sure that the
Milwaukee election commission staff and top officials are competent enough
to be doing their jobs.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
They have checklists.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
Now we need to have the observers have checklists because
we can't accurately run the stuff. Will the download process
be tested as part of the public test of the
voting equipment prior to the next election? It damn well
better be. Could there be demonstrations of the download process
available to observers and members of the media prior to

(01:28:46):
Election Day to explain any process improvements? To build confidence
in Milwaukee's process ahead of the November general election, MEC
should answer these questions and provide information to the public
as soon as practicable.

Speaker 3 (01:28:59):
Fair or unfair. Oh, dear God.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Fair or unfair, the eyes of the nation are often
on Milwaukee and providing transparency into the system, especially when
a mistake occurs, is a critical service to the voters
of the state.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
Fair or unfair.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
They just sort of left all the doors of the
tabulators open before the 2024 election, something that only was
caught by the head of the Milwaukee County Republican Party.
If he wasn't there the morning of the election at
Central County, what is the likelihood that they would have
recounted those votes? They would have very likely just let

(01:29:43):
them close the doors. OK, I guess everything looks good here. 2020,
forgotten flash drive. This is all within the last six years.
Every single election, the city of Milwaukee is well behind
every other city, every other county in counting its votes.

(01:30:07):
It has nine high-speed tabulators. Even if you very conservatively
estimate the number of votes that could be counted in
a given minute they should have been done by 5
or 6 p.m why were they slow counting these ballots

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why were the ballots being dribbled in over the course
of the entire were they specifically waiting For late arriving
ballots to come that just so happen. I would like
to know how many ballots were coming into the central
count facility on election day.

Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
I've got. Way more questions.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Fortunately, the Republican chair of the Campaign and Elections Committee
in the state legislature, Dave Maxey, is also not politely
requesting answers. He is demanding answers within 30 days to
far more pointed questions than these. You are listening to

(01:31:13):
The Dan O'Donnell Show.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
It is a... Do you know who..

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
Is the absolute number one fan of 9 to 5.
I believe it is still her favorite song. My 8-year-old niece.
I'm sorry, my 9-year-old niece. She may actually be 10
right now.

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
I swear I'm a good uncle. It's hard to keep track.
These kids grow up so quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
Start of another school year for a lot of kids.

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
My nephew started.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
He goes to Private school, they start a week before
the public schools. A couple of dear friends, twin daughters,
they started yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
Yeah, yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
New policies in place for school children across the state.
Can't have your cell phone in class. I can't believe
this was really an issue or this was all that controversial.
But there are, as a result of Wisconsin Act 42,

(01:32:27):
personal communication devices such as cell phones can no longer
be used during school hours or at least when class
is in session. It was enacted on Halloween of last year,
requiring all public school boards to adopt local policies prohibiting
students from using personal wireless communication devices during instructional time.

(01:32:53):
school districts had a deadline of July 1st to put
these rules in place for classrooms, which means if there
was a deadline of July 1st, 2026, Milwaukee public schools
will come up with a plan by August 17th, 2032,
based on recent performance.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
I'm fairly certain MPS, which is also back in session,
was the first day of school today because they've got
the new No, they start September 1st.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
Yeah, yeah, everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
I think it was the first prep day, maybe today.
A number of schools I know switched to a more
year-round calendar. MPS, pretty much every public school system in
the state starts September 1st. A lot of great suggestions.

(01:33:53):
about the only universally beloved people. Denzel Washington, yes, great actor.
I love me some Denzel. I don't think that he's– yeah,
I don't think– This texter goes, stop naming celebrities. You're
going to cause them to die. Yeah, we've got and

(01:34:16):
I am getting texted. Guy goes, James Earl Jones. Yes,
universally beloved. Another guy with a truly great, awesome voice.
Also dead. I'm saying only living celebrities. Although you want
to talk about how life is just being dramatically changed
with artificial intelligence. Do you know who the next voice

(01:34:37):
of Darth Vader is going to be? James Earl Jones.
Disney bought the rights to use James Earl Jones's voice
in perpetuity from his family, from his surviving heirs. He
will be paid. His estate will be paid. His heirs

(01:34:58):
will be paid so long as Disney continues making Star
Wars movies with Darth Vader. Of course, they're going to
be using artificial intelligence. This is actually Sort of fascinating.
It dovetails with a very interesting email I received from
a listener, and I haven't had a chance to really

(01:35:19):
investigate it. But he said someone he knows is a
musician and someone is using artificial intelligence to basically rip
off his sound. Let's say, and I'm not going to
use the real name here because, again, I haven't fully investigated.

(01:35:39):
These are serious allegations not made against a specific person.
He's saying somebody is using AI to mimic the exact
sound of this guy's.

Speaker 3 (01:35:53):
Songs.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
What if, and this is not far off, You could
make your own Taylor Swift songs. You can do it now.
You can mimic her voice. You can mimic her style
using AI. But to make it so good that it's
impossible to tell. You could make a Dan O'Donnell show.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
How much you want to bet?

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
iHeartMedia is already AI-ing up the Dan O'Donnell voice. I
say guaranteed human voice. They didn't say it has to
be a human currently talking. Yes, the voice is Dan O'Donnell's.
It's not an invented voice like Spotify, for example, uses

(01:36:40):
a DJ's voice. They have an AI DJ that will
play songs that your algorithm, your history of what you use,
what you play on Spotify suggests that you're going to
want to listen to next. And it's just a disembodied voice.

(01:37:01):
Nobody laid down the vocal track. The machine just created
the voice out of thin air. It is a very pleasing, baritone,
black male who admittedly is a great DJ. He plays
the hits in the Dan O'Donnell playlist. I like him
very much. I don't know what his name is. I

(01:37:23):
think it's just DJ. Got a little creepy, so I
stopped doing it. I don't want to hear DJ chatter.
He started giving away a thousand dollar gift card in
a trip to Las Vegas. I said, dude, you're horning
in on my stuff here. Cell phone policy for the schools.

(01:37:44):
This is an absolute no brainer. And schools are where
AI has already totally changed the game. I would not
want to be an English teacher right now. In fact,
I've talked to a couple of my kids' English teachers
who said it is getting so difficult to tell what's
AI and what's not. They've, of course, got tools that

(01:38:04):
they can tell. Those aren't always accurate. AI detectors. Somebody
put an AI detector on something I wrote.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
I don't remember what it was. This was written by AI.
I'm like, you idiot.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
I literally wrote that myself. It is clearly not AI.
I think we're going to need to go back to
truly old school to ensure kids aren't just cheating to
get good grades on essays or tests. You're going to
have to go to and anyone who ever went to

(01:38:37):
law school. remembers the blue books. Doug, did you have
blue books in undergrad? You did have blue books.

Speaker 5 (01:38:45):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
I did not have a blue book to take an exam.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
A blue book is literally just that. It is a
sheet of paper.

Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
It's like a little notebook stapled together and the cover
and back cover are blue and you've got lined paper
in there and you write your answer. In law school,
it's still to this day. I graduated 20 years ago.
To this day, they still use the blue books. Your
entire grade is probably one test and like one fact pattern,

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one case and two questions.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
Go.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
You've got three hours. Your entire grade depends on it.
And you have to write legibly enough for the professor
to read. And that's your entire grade. I think you're
going to have to go back to that, the blue
books or essay tests or multiple choice on printed paper.

(01:39:40):
It's going to be the only way you're going to
be able to test guaranteed human intelligence or human understanding
of various concepts that have been taught. Because we are very,
very quickly moving in the direction of AI just being
relied on for Pretty much every educational or intellectual or

(01:40:06):
even creative exercise. I don't think people quite understand. We're
all fighting over the data centers. The real revolution is
what artificial intelligence and quantum computing can do, are doing,
and will do in the very near future. I'm going
to get a glass of water because my voice is
starting to go.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Don't worry, though. We will be back with more.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
Conservative thought and not just talk before having a debate
about Dolly Parton. I think that the greatest tribute to
her and the thing that I think we should all
aspire to is not that nobody would ever say a
bad word about you, but that you are remembered as,
you know what? He just seemed like a decent dude.

(01:40:54):
Dolly Parton just seemed like a good person. And that
sentiment was pretty universal. I don't think there is anyone
else in the public eye. I mean, you may have
a friend, Steve, who everybody just likes. Everybody's got a
Steve in their life who just is a great, genuine person.
For most people who know me, they say it's me.

(01:41:16):
Clearly I am not controversial in the least. Everyone loves me.
My producer is now cracking up at that one. Uh, No,
the best names that we have come up with, with
universally beloved people like Dolly Parton, Reba McEntire, John Cena,
the professional wrestler who just retired, he has fulfilled more

(01:41:37):
make-a-wish wishes for kids than any other person in history.
The other ones were Michael J. Fox was a very
popular one, Morgan Freeman. is I think one you could
say is universally beloved. How about Keith Richards? Everybody is

(01:41:58):
just sort of amazed that Keith is still alive. How
many people did Keith Richards outlive despite his life? It's
more of like a curiosity than it is. It's universal
awe that the drugs and alcohol did not kill him
rather than universally being beloved. Jackie Chan is an interesting one.

(01:42:23):
I think that might be a decent guess. This just
came out a couple of hours ago. We asked Tom
Tiffany about it. David Crowley saying something that is surprisingly controversial.
Scott Bauer of the Associated Press tweeting out Crowley says

(01:42:45):
he won't vote for the constitutional amendment put on the
ballot by Republicans to rein in a governor's veto power.
Crowley said, quote, what they're trying to do is just
rig the system. Crowley says, Bauer continues, if elected governor,
he would use his partial veto authority just as his

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Democratic and Republican predecessors have done. I am always willing
to use my veto pen to make sure that there's
no harm being placed or forced on Wisconsinites across our state.
What if the veto pen is the cause of the harm,
you absolute buffoon?

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
This amendment... was put in place.

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
It simply says the governor can't use a partial veto
to create or increase taxes or fees on Wisconsinites. We
already had a constitutional amendment in the 1990s, it was passed,
that banned Frankenstein and Vanna White vetoes, which what Governor
Evers clearly did in his 400-year property tax increase veto

(01:43:49):
was a combination of Vanna White and Frankenstein vetoes. creating
a new number out of numbers that he eliminated, and
also created an entirely new taxing authority for local school
districts to be able to increase the per-pupil amount that

(01:44:13):
they charge, essentially, each homeowner in their district without going
to referendum per.

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
Year, every year, for $ 400 million.

Speaker 6 (01:44:25):
Years.

Speaker 3 (01:44:27):
It's so obscene.

Speaker 1 (01:44:29):
It is so comically out of whack with the proper
role of a governor and the proper use of a
veto that people from out of state can scarcely believe
that this was upheld by a Wisconsin Supreme Court that
apparently has never actually read our state's constitution. Crowley said,

(01:44:54):
The effort to rein in the tyrannical executive, and that's
exactly what this is. That is the definition of tyranny,
overstepping and abusing your constitutional authority by creating powers for
yourself and using them that were never delegated to you
by the constitution of your state or the federal government.

(01:45:17):
bypass the legislature creates taxes. The governor signs them into
law and enforces them. He executes the laws. Governor Evers
created a new tax. He created an affirmative law without
going through the proper channel using a veto. And Crowley

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says he's going to do the same damn thing.