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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm good morning. You'll find you out with Pete the
poet Cold.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I'm Peter Leonard and I'm the poet Gold.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And we're on the air with two people from Dutch
Community College and Chris Warren who's in the structure of
theater and dance, and then thomasina Oli fun the structure
of human services. It's such as community college. And before
we get to them, we're going to go right to
the poet Cold for a weekly poem, prayer, incantation, goal.
Please let it roll.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
You got it, Peter.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
So this morning I'm going to do a poem called
Black Boys Dance. It's a sort of polity as am
a lootic structure to it.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I love watching black boys dance. I love watching black
boys dance. I love watching black boys dance, dance, dance, dance.
I love watching black men dance. I love watching black
men dance. I love watching black men dance dance, dance dance.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I love watching in black boys black men dance. I
love watching black boys dance the contour of their bodies,
feet moving fast and slow and slow, then fast glides.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
They gotta glow, they gotta glow. I shed tears, I laugh, I.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Smile, my eyes twinkle and gleam, knowing for that moment
they are truly free. So dance, black boy, dance, black man,
dance a shay.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Not only amen to that, I want to say, I
urge Gold to repeat that poem. And I won credit
for making sure that we got that. I mean I
didn't write it, I didn't perform it, but I promoted it.
That was right. You know, I condensed its condensed to
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you know, I know this Black History Month and we're
celebrating that here at iHeartRadio. But also it's that's just
community college. Yes, you have a terrific program going. You
want to give us an explanation, not an explanation, hint
at what you're doing, just to promote.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Three months, so to promote it.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
So also I'm also co chair of our Diversity Council,
and we put together some programming around you know, highlighting.
We wanted to highlight, you know, members of our community
who've really contributed to our black history. So the individuals
whom we have selected as our presenters all of course
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Poet Gold.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
We had you last last yesterday and last night.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
So we had you for an amazing Dream out Loud
poetry writing workshop which was phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It was so impactful.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
It had faculty, staff, students and community members coming together
to participate in this wonderful writing workshop and everybody was
blown away and impacted. And then in the evening we
had you for your amazing Beat the Pone performance and
again another time of being blown away and being support
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and supporting our students and faculty and staff and community
members who have who came through to participate and engage
in that. And so again as you have contributed to
Poughkeepsie and the Hudson Valley of you know the way
that you have brought in your spoken word and just
your activism and your representation, the same as we have
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gone through and identified speakers. So we have celebrating the
African spirit. Like first we had on on February third,
we had doctor or Hero who only Esla who he
was the first black person in the Hudson Valley to
get their PhD from Adelphi University his ds Yes, his
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PhD in social work. He now is the director of
this and the founder of the Social Work Program and
Delaware State. But he ran the Hudson Valley Adela Fly
Center for many many years before transitioning. So he's a
really prominent figure in the Hudson Valley who then transitioned
to Delaware State, but we wanted to bring him back
because he made such an impact in our community. Then
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we have Celebrating the African Spirit who I know you
all know as well, Carmen McGill and Professor Catherine Height.
They are doing such incredible work. Their presentation is going
to be is called Reckoning with the Past, the work
of celebration of celebrating the African Spirit for the here
and now. So they're going to be with us on
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February seventeen again talking about the past and talking about
the contributions that the black community has made to Poughkeepsie
in the Hudson Valley as well, and you know the
work that they are doing to help preserve black history
in our local community.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Then we have.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Doctor see Lewis, who's going to be who had has
created the doctor Margaret Wade Lewis Center in honor of
her late mother. She formerly founded the Black History Studies
program at Sunny New Paultz. So this center is also
to preserve black history in the Hudson Valley. So providing
our students, the community, our faculty and staff with all
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this awareness, all this knowledge about what's happening right here,
what are people doing right here in our local community,
is something that we wanted to highlight this year.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I know you had for colored Girls coming up.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Yes, and I'm gonna I'm gonna turn that over to
an Chris in a few minutes too. And another thing
by our awesome art department, we have art gallery exhibit
Weird Sisters. And this exhibit we're going to have the
opening reception on February twenty fifth, and then on February
twenty six the Curity Curator is actually coming to speak
on that, so that work is being featured. That work
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is featured by Anna Maria Farina, Alissa Scalianos Carter, and
Leslie Fandrich and the exhibition explores the concept of monsters
as expressions of internal struggle, transformation, and identity. Together, the
artists investigate where these monsters come from, what they represent,
and how they reflect internal feminine struggles. So I'll turn
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it over to and Chris so she can share about
the awesome performative reading choreo poem that we're going to
be doing too.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And before you get your Anne Marie is Vera is
a wonderful curator and artists wonderful.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, So I'm very excited about your whole lineup and
your program that you have going on, and the fact
that it's free, open to the public is really amazing.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Yeah. So for Colored girls who have considered suicide, When
the Rainbow Is Enough is a choreo poem buy into.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
Zaki jan to Day.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
And I directed the show many years ago, probably about
fifteen years ago. I directed Dutch show and Begon and
it changed my life. It's one that I've always wanted
to go back to and I could do this show
and read these poems and work with women to explore
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their ethnicity over and over and over. So it's a
great honor to be able to do this with our
DCC community. We have thirteen faculty, staff and students that
are involved in doing a staged reading for Color Girls
on March fourth. We are presenting it as a bridge
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event from Black History Month into Women's History Month, so kind.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Of bridging the two.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
So it is a stage reading.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
It was not a full performance, but we do have
some staged elements. When I directed the show before, a
friend of mine wrote original music to the first poem.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
So we will sing the first.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Poem and perform the rest of them ad movements as
much as we can in the timeframe that we have
putting this together.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
And hopefully this will be an annual event that will.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Bring uh DCC community together to present this every single year.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And I think I think one of my favorite monologues
is the one I'm sorry, Yes, sorry.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
My too.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
That's That's the one.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
That's the one I did for myself because when I
directed it before, I wasn't in it. I directed it,
and it's much easier to just be on the outside
and put it all together.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
But since this is a reading, I was like, I
could do both.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
I can. I could put it together and be a
part of it. So I'm really excited to get to
play with everybody this time and not just be the
visionary and the outside.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
And where can people go to find out the information
the scheduling. Where's that information? Is it online or yes?
Speaker 5 (08:43):
So it is on our website, on our DCC website.
So if you even if you just go on the
DCC website, just the main page, it is on there.
It's also dc C Dutchess Community College dot com slash
black History mom and you can get there find information
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for if any community wants to park to attend, you
can park in parking lot D Cottage Roades.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
We know that addressing.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Yes, and it will be in the black Box Theater
on March fo Yeah, which is in Dutchess Hall.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And what I want to indicate, you know, we all
like words here, but there's visuals also, and when and
Chris was talking about, you know, directing to play fifteen
years ago and having a stage reading now with certain
places where she just smiled in a way. I want
to go see that play. Yes. So the advertisement for uh,
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you know, coming to Community College for these events is
lay it over with a visual man. The people presenting
it are happy that presenting it.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And also I loved your h review of Poet Cold
Oh inspirational. Yeah. And when you say year she's done
so much for the Hudson Valley, that's just because the
restive America has on hold on.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
If you're just tuning in you're listening to Finding Out
with Pete and the poet Gold, and I'm the poet Gold.
We're here today with a Chris Warren Instructive Theater and
Dance at Dutchess Community College and Thomas and Oliphant Instructive
Human Services and the coach here of the Diversity Council.
Let me ask you a question. I mean you talked about,
you know, highlighting community members you know as well, and
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that and that is how it all came about.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Were you involved in last year's.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Do you will you be since your coach here now,
you know, looking forward and planning for next year.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
As leader of the Diversity Council, I did step into
help this year. We are like for for a Chris
like having this play. This is the first time we're
having this, so this is something that we wanted. Definitely
you do have of course poblic goal. We would always
want to have you back here at Dutchess Community College.
So it'll be a team effort of planning for next year.
(11:10):
We're not sure what we'll be doing for next year,
but we appreciate the feedback of this year of the
planning and we appreciate.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I'm sure it's been phenomenal.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Yes, really, And you know.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
One of the things that I love about having both
of you in the studio today is, you know, having
somebody from the arts as well as human services. I
always thought one of the real powerful forms of social
change is the intersection of art and social you know,
social services and public goal. You've been involved in that
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a lot in terms of working with youth directly. So
I guess I don't know if I have a question,
but I have. I'm very easy to hear. Well, any
of you talk about the way art is a form
of social change, and.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, what has that intersection been like working together with the.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Both of you, that's the question.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
That's the question.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Okay, I got it for you.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
I would have to say it's the play the play, but.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Even before the play.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
So I know Thomasine from We both worked in Ulster
County and that's how I first met Thomasine. So it
was kids met that we were both here in Dutchess
County and at DCC together.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Now, my background is with younger youth.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
I worked for Bros and Girls Clubs of Ulster County
for thirteen years.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
I was COEO.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
I started that work because they wanted to bring more
arts programming into the clubs.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
So that started that bridge.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
That's always been my passion, So that started that bridge
right away of you know, integrating that human services work
with the arts and helping young people heal and understand
their lives and their trauma and what their future possibilities
are through the arts has always been a and helping
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our DCC community and our DCC students understand and value
their own worth and be able to move forward in
their next steps, whatever that is after they're done with
us in a more stable way.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
That is the ultimate goal.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
And being able to have those conversations and collaborate with
Thomasine and other staff in human services is just helps
bridge that gap and make that process that much stronger
for the student and give them an outlet that they
wouldn't have otherwise had, especially with performances like for Color Girls,
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you know, our first informational meeting and hearing what the
students have to say about what their black looks like
in today's world, there's still a lot of similarities between
their black, our black and what they are experiencing and
what their stumbling blocks are. So having a space where
they can say that to people that understand and have
conversation and then leave that first meeting being.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Like, wow, I already feel better.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
I'm really looking forward to continuing this conversation and having
a safe space to explore that what my blackness is.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
And that's that human services aspect, right, like creating that
safe space where they can have that dialogue, where where
there is community. And so I think that we are
starting to create more programming around that and like and
celebrating more art, like having you poet Goal come to
the campus again is like, you know, the it was
more this spoken word. It's a call to action for
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us to look inside ourselves and like go beyond those
fears and you know, and and it was a the
writing workshop was I believe was healing for many of
us participating in it. And you know, even one of
the members had said that like just sparked my love
of writing again, and now she's going back home and
she's starting to write again. And that was one of
the staff. And so it was super inspirational. And so again,
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you know, we're always looking to bridge you know, humans,
so work with the arts and you know, all of
those elements because again it all intertwines, and that's truly
that is how we do social justice and action as well,
you know, not just in you know, just in straight
education as is, but also by combining these different elements together.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
Yeah, I've always.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Believed that the social emotional learning aspect of it is
really the path to academia because if you have stuff
you you can't really uh sort of apply yourself. If
you're carrying things within yourself, it's it's becomes the clutter,
it becomes the madness, it becomes the why am I
here and what am I doing?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
You know moments.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
So it's about clearing that out for yourself, giving you
the tools to be able to do that. I use poetry,
you know, to to be able to tell people how
to show people how to be able to do that
and open that up so that they can see the path,
you know, for themselves. So that's I think that's great
that what such is doing that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
That's good, thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
You know. And Chris used the phrase they are black.
You know, I never heard that phrase. Not surprisingly, I'm
the only white person in the room when we never
heard that phrase. Let's own up to that. But it
strikes me as such a powerful phrase because it takes
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black as both a very very personal thing and also
a public and political thing, and I wonder if I
have that right? And how you know they are black?
Little black nail is being compared to black at another point,
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Yeah, I mean absolutely, I feel I feel very small.
We all know us mallanated people understand that we have
been put into a box, right and we from one side,
we're looked at as well, you're black, so this is
these are the things that go along with that. But
within that black community, there are multiple other boxes within
that community, and that's where level colorism happen. Levels of
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hierarchy or alleged hierarchy. You know, it's it goes all
the way back to the indoor slave and the outdoor slave.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Like there.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
This has always been the structure that was forced upon
us to keep us divided and to try to keep
forcing divide within our own community, because they know that
when we blend, when we bond together, when we see
our unity as one, we we are so powerful. That's
that's that's the fear, right right, that's the fear is
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that we will understand our own strength and that we
will understand our own power amongst our own people, and
that's in the broader black and brown spectrum as well.
And that's what we're seeing right now, right right across
the country, is that you know that banding together and
being able to fight fight the oppression basically.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Right right, You're absolutely right, And and the the fear
of that, you know, is that's a different for lack
of a better term, power in itself. How fear takes
over the spirit, you know, fear takes over the soul
and brings you to a place of where you're not
even rational any longer, which is just it's getting people
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to see that that the behavior and the response to
a perceived threat.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
And this is why, this is why Black Chastry Month
is important. This is why Black histream Months events are important.
Is because it's not about the conversation of, you know,
we need to have our own month.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
It's about the conversation of.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
We need to create space for people to have blended
conversations so that we know that our thoughts are valid
and are not We're not alone in how we are
viewing things like that, the way I show up in
the world and the way I'm educated and the way
I speak is similar to how other people in my
black and brown community also grew up and speak and
being able to the threads amongst all of our black right. So,
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if you don't have these opportunities to come together and
have these conversations, we feel alone, we feel isolated, we
feel on.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
Our own island.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Because that's that's the structure, that's the systemicness that's been created.
Is they want to force us to feel alone, and
so being able to come together as a community in
whatever our community is and bring in all people the
rainbow of people, then that is how we can we
can we find unity and solidary.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
And and and people within the rainbow that that may
have different exposures exactly right to.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Two other things.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I don't you know, growing up, I don't know how
many how many times I've been told, you know, you
sound white.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Right right here, right here, you know, and I'm like, well,
what exactly does that mean?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
And then it makes you self conscious or you know,
you sound you're very poised, and so it's like that's
a compliment, but then it's also like, you know, it
questions yourself like am I black enough? You know? Like
you know, and so we also came to realize that
sometimes our students feel that way, where like, you know,
do I celebrate if I'm mixed? Do I celebrate Black
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History Month? Or do I celebrate another you know, heritage month,
Because like I don't know where I fall. And so
that's why these are so important doing these events, because
it helps them to explore their identity and to feel
comfortable with themselves. Because we're all having our own internal
struggle somewhere. All have had different experiences like that. See
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the fact that we were able to connect on that, Yes,
idly we all feel that right like yes, I've been
told like, yes, you sound white, and it's like and
you can't.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
Sound a color. I always say this, you can't sound
a color. You can?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
You know, education has no color. You can sound because
you're educated. Doesn't make you less black, because you speak
with the vocabulary and poise does not make you less black.
And that is a structure, that is a systemic oppression.
And so for us to move past that and help
our young people under stand that because in my work
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working with young people, I have seen people dumb themselves down.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
In order to fit in with it. Truly with their peers.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
It's like you do not need to not show up
for yourself. You need to run on Cepe time when
you are an anxious person that likes to get up
early and likes to be prepared and ready, and please
be on time, please.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Like this is these are things that are just structures that.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
This is language that has been put on us that
we as a society, and especially with our young people,
I feel have adopted in a way that they think
is what they have to be. And so trying to
continually have these conversations to show them that this is
what they have wanted us to be.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
But us being poised.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
And speaking clearly and showing up and fighting is what.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
We are supposed to do. This is where we're supposed
to be. We did not get this.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Far by being quiet, right, absolutely, if you're just tuning in,
you're listening to finding out with Pete and the poet
Gold and the poet Goal that we're here with Anne
Chris Warren instructive theater and dance, and Thomasine Aleiphant instructive
human services and the coaching of the Diversity.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Council, and you know, it's so much fun for me
to be here, not only fun but also learning because
white people are not in on that conversation. Like people
the world I come from, I don't hear question things
like people have basically accused me of Saturday into white
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And for you to respond that way, it gives, you know,
white people an insight into the tremendous diversity among black
people as well as a unity. And yeah, when you
were talking about bringing people together and thought, that's what
education is. Yeah, this is why Judges Community College really
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has a program going on day afterday but also this
month especially, it is just good education. And you know
what I'd also like to say is, you know, we
want to maintain the categories of being black and being
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black in different ways, but also being white. Like I
very joy never think of myself as white. I mean
what I think myself is normal? Okay, well, which is
and that's an offensive thing. You know, I'm normal and
everyone who's not me is not normal. But that's the
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way it is. And you know, when you're black and
you want to be black and specific to who you are,
I can see why that would be a struggle.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
So I want to want to talk a little bit
about your experiences on campus.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
When did you get to d CC.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
I've been adjucting at d c C.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
I started about seven years ago and I just came
on full time this past year twenty twenty five and
in the theater program, specifically in the theater program, okay
specifically what took some so long? I had time job elsewhere. Yeah,
I'm blessed. I'm blessed to be there full time.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
I'm very excited.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
And I previously I was back at DCC. I think
it was like twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. I was a
first student resource navigator on campus and so I worked
on the student services side, and then I left went
worked in Ulster County. Then I came back as a
tenure track professor for human Services. So I've been in
the role for about four years now.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
And the and the Diversity Council is a.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Is a new Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
So I I was appointed by doctor Peter Grant Jordan
for as the co chair of the Diversity Council. This
is my third year in the role.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
Your coach here, who's the other Oh.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
My, my awesome colleague Stephen Posada.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Is that is that who I met yesterday and he.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Is the coordinator of EOP and he also got he
is one of the Hispanic Leadership Institute Sunny Leadership fellow.
So I just want to give him a shout out.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You know, following up my point about white people conceiving
of themselves as normal, you know, and I understand how
peculiar that is, you know, besides being offensive, it's peculiar.
But I used to write for the Petepsie Journal a lot,
and if I describe somebody as white, they would edit
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it out because of course it you know, if I
referred to somebody as why, they would say that's significant.
But I always felt that it was offensive, even even
to me. You know, people calls the dominant fact that
in American life, and you can only you have normal
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and not normal? What's it the institutions are trying to do?
So it's different.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
It is different.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
So what type of programming up ahead do you think
that you guys will be putting together, not necessarily for
Black History Month, but just in the construct of DCC itself.
Have you laid out a track for that, a plan
in the diversity.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
For further programming. Yeah, we're just continuing, just building upon
our momentum. We don't have anything coming up. We do
have a woman's wellness market that's going to be happening
for Women's History Month. This is led by awesome Heather
and Pitcher, who we are collaborating with. She is the
executive director and founder of the Brain and Body Coalition
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that focuses on mental.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Health education really for the BIPO population.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
So this is going to be a wellness market that's
happening on Sunday, March twenty second, from one to five
pm in the green Span Dining Hall at Dutchess Community
College and bring a whole bunch of women and minority
owned businesses.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
It's open into all businesses, but.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
We have a a slew of vendors that are going
to be marketing their wellness products and so we're just
uplifting our women's business community.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So that's another event that's going to be happening.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
And is that open to the public, Yes, Open into
the public, yes, yes, So we're going to have that
coming out. So we're are working on our Women's History
Month now and that's going to be upcoming programming and
we have, you.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
Know, in the final performa Arts department.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
We constantly are focusing on how to include diversity and
commentary on what's happening in the world. So for we
do a large dance showcase every year. I teach the
performance that applied dance class that is basically the showcase,
and I created a theme that's called what we Carry
a Collective Dance Experience, and it is the piece. The
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entire piece is all about social justice and it has
different social justice areas that are going to be discussed
through movement, and it culminates with there's a large choral
piece called seven Last Words of the Unarmed, which is
a fourteen minute choral piece with seven different movements that
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is using the last words of Eric Garner and TREMC
Martin and others.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
It's beautiful piece.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
And so that's the last piece of our showcase. That
will be all done through movement with a collaboration of
five different choreographers doing different different sections of that piece.
And then earlier in the showcase there's other sections that
there's commentary on women's rights, is commentary on immigration.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
So all done.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Through movement with my voice, but also a lot of
student voice, a lot of student choreographers and some guest choreographers.
So that will be April twenty fifth, that Saturday evening
at seven pm and there's also an afternoon one on
April twenty third at twelve thirty pm, and those are
in the James and Betty Hall Theater at Dutchess Community College.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
I don't have to say.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Glued to your website. We will make sure you guys
have all our updates.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Excell And you know in the minute left you so
I me underlining my white confession punctuated the I want
to say it might be the same thing. How much
I didn't know that was going on to touch this
and how great it is. And anybody listening to this show,
it's a podcast, you can listen to it again because
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You're doing a great job educationally and all specifically for
the entire community. So thanks for being with us.
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm good morning. You'll find you out with Pete the
poet Cold.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I'm Peter Leonard and I'm the poet Gold.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And we're on the air with two people from Dutch
Community College and Chris Warren who's in the structure of
theater and dance, and then thomasina Oli fun the structure
of human services. It's such as community college. And before
we get to them, we're going to go right to
the poet Cold for a weekly poem, prayer, incantation, goal.
Please let it roll.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
You got it, Peter.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
So this morning I'm going to do a poem called
Black Boys Dance. It's a sort of polity as am
a lootic structure to it.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I love watching black boys dance. I love watching black
boys dance. I love watching black boys dance, dance, dance, dance.
I love watching black men dance. I love watching black
men dance. I love watching black men dance dance, dance dance.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I love watching in black boys black men dance. I
love watching black boys dance the contour of their bodies,
feet moving fast and slow and slow, then fast glides.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
They gotta glow, they gotta glow. I shed tears, I laugh, I.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Smile, my eyes twinkle and gleam, knowing for that moment
they are truly free. So dance, black boy, dance, black man,
dance a shay.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Not only amen to that, I want to say, I
urge Gold to repeat that poem. And I won credit
for making sure that we got that. I mean I
didn't write it, I didn't perform it, but I promoted it.
That was right. You know, I condensed its condensed to
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you know, I know this Black History Month and we're
celebrating that here at iHeartRadio. But also it's that's just
community college. Yes, you have a terrific program going. You
want to give us an explanation, not an explanation, hint
at what you're doing, just to promote.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Three months, so to promote it.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
So also I'm also co chair of our Diversity Council,
and we put together some programming around you know, highlighting.
We wanted to highlight, you know, members of our community
who've really contributed to our black history. So the individuals
whom we have selected as our presenters all of course
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Poet Gold.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
We had you last last yesterday and last night.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
So we had you for an amazing Dream out Loud
poetry writing workshop which was phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It was so impactful.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
It had faculty, staff, students and community members coming together
to participate in this wonderful writing workshop and everybody was
blown away and impacted. And then in the evening we
had you for your amazing Beat the Pone performance and
again another time of being blown away and being support
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and supporting our students and faculty and staff and community
members who have who came through to participate and engage
in that. And so again as you have contributed to
Poughkeepsie and the Hudson Valley of you know the way
that you have brought in your spoken word and just
your activism and your representation, the same as we have
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gone through and identified speakers. So we have celebrating the
African spirit. Like first we had on on February third,
we had doctor or Hero who only Esla who he
was the first black person in the Hudson Valley to
get their PhD from Adelphi University his ds Yes, his
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PhD in social work. He now is the director of
this and the founder of the Social Work Program and
Delaware State. But he ran the Hudson Valley Adela Fly
Center for many many years before transitioning. So he's a
really prominent figure in the Hudson Valley who then transitioned
to Delaware State, but we wanted to bring him back
because he made such an impact in our community. Then
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we have Celebrating the African Spirit who I know you
all know as well, Carmen McGill and Professor Catherine Height.
They are doing such incredible work. Their presentation is going
to be is called Reckoning with the Past, the work
of celebration of celebrating the African Spirit for the here
and now. So they're going to be with us on
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February seventeen again talking about the past and talking about
the contributions that the black community has made to Poughkeepsie
in the Hudson Valley as well, and you know the
work that they are doing to help preserve black history
in our local community.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Then we have.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Doctor see Lewis, who's going to be who had has
created the doctor Margaret Wade Lewis Center in honor of
her late mother. She formerly founded the Black History Studies
program at Sunny New Paultz. So this center is also
to preserve black history in the Hudson Valley. So providing
our students, the community, our faculty and staff with all
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this awareness, all this knowledge about what's happening right here,
what are people doing right here in our local community,
is something that we wanted to highlight this year.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I know you had for colored Girls coming up.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Yes, and I'm gonna I'm gonna turn that over to
an Chris in a few minutes too. And another thing
by our awesome art department, we have art gallery exhibit
Weird Sisters. And this exhibit we're going to have the
opening reception on February twenty fifth, and then on February
twenty six the Curity Curator is actually coming to speak
on that, so that work is being featured. That work
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is featured by Anna Maria Farina, Alissa Scalianos Carter, and
Leslie Fandrich and the exhibition explores the concept of monsters
as expressions of internal struggle, transformation, and identity. Together, the
artists investigate where these monsters come from, what they represent,
and how they reflect internal feminine struggles. So I'll turn
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it over to and Chris so she can share about
the awesome performative reading choreo poem that we're going to
be doing too.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And before you get your Anne Marie is Vera is
a wonderful curator and artists wonderful.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, So I'm very excited about your whole lineup and
your program that you have going on, and the fact
that it's free, open to the public is really amazing.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Yeah. So for Colored girls who have considered suicide, When
the Rainbow Is Enough is a choreo poem buy into.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
Zaki jan to Day.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
And I directed the show many years ago, probably about
fifteen years ago. I directed Dutch show and Begon and
it changed my life. It's one that I've always wanted
to go back to and I could do this show
and read these poems and work with women to explore
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their ethnicity over and over and over. So it's a
great honor to be able to do this with our
DCC community. We have thirteen faculty, staff and students that
are involved in doing a staged reading for Color Girls
on March fourth. We are presenting it as a bridge
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event from Black History Month into Women's History Month, so kind.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Of bridging the two.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
So it is a stage reading.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
It was not a full performance, but we do have
some staged elements. When I directed the show before, a
friend of mine wrote original music to the first poem.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
So we will sing the first.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Poem and perform the rest of them ad movements as
much as we can in the timeframe that we have
putting this together.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
And hopefully this will be an annual event that will.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Bring uh DCC community together to present this every single year.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And I think I think one of my favorite monologues
is the one I'm sorry, Yes, sorry.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
My too.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
That's That's the one.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
That's the one I did for myself because when I
directed it before, I wasn't in it. I directed it,
and it's much easier to just be on the outside
and put it all together.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
But since this is a reading, I was like, I
could do both.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
I can. I could put it together and be a
part of it. So I'm really excited to get to
play with everybody this time and not just be the
visionary and the outside.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
And where can people go to find out the information
the scheduling. Where's that information? Is it online or yes?
Speaker 5 (08:43):
So it is on our website, on our DCC website.
So if you even if you just go on the
DCC website, just the main page, it is on there.
It's also dc C Dutchess Community College dot com slash
black History mom and you can get there find information
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for if any community wants to park to attend, you
can park in parking lot D Cottage Roades.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
We know that addressing.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Yes, and it will be in the black Box Theater
on March fo Yeah, which is in Dutchess Hall.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And what I want to indicate, you know, we all
like words here, but there's visuals also, and when and
Chris was talking about, you know, directing to play fifteen
years ago and having a stage reading now with certain
places where she just smiled in a way. I want
to go see that play. Yes. So the advertisement for uh,
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you know, coming to Community College for these events is
lay it over with a visual man. The people presenting
it are happy that presenting it.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And also I loved your h review of Poet Cold
Oh inspirational. Yeah. And when you say year she's done
so much for the Hudson Valley, that's just because the
restive America has on hold on.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
If you're just tuning in you're listening to Finding Out
with Pete and the poet Gold, and I'm the poet Gold.
We're here today with a Chris Warren Instructive Theater and
Dance at Dutchess Community College and Thomas and Oliphant Instructive
Human Services and the coach here of the Diversity Council.
Let me ask you a question. I mean you talked about,
you know, highlighting community members you know as well, and
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that and that is how it all came about.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Were you involved in last year's.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Do you will you be since your coach here now,
you know, looking forward and planning for next year.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
As leader of the Diversity Council, I did step into
help this year. We are like for for a Chris
like having this play. This is the first time we're
having this, so this is something that we wanted. Definitely
you do have of course poblic goal. We would always
want to have you back here at Dutchess Community College.
So it'll be a team effort of planning for next year.
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We're not sure what we'll be doing for next year,
but we appreciate the feedback of this year of the
planning and we appreciate.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I'm sure it's been phenomenal.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Yes, really, And you know.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
One of the things that I love about having both
of you in the studio today is, you know, having
somebody from the arts as well as human services. I
always thought one of the real powerful forms of social
change is the intersection of art and social you know,
social services and public goal. You've been involved in that
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a lot in terms of working with youth directly. So
I guess I don't know if I have a question,
but I have. I'm very easy to hear. Well, any
of you talk about the way art is a form
of social change, and.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, what has that intersection been like working together with the.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Both of you, that's the question.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
That's the question.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Okay, I got it for you.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
I would have to say it's the play the play, but.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Even before the play.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
So I know Thomasine from We both worked in Ulster
County and that's how I first met Thomasine. So it
was kids met that we were both here in Dutchess
County and at DCC together.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Now, my background is with younger youth.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
I worked for Bros and Girls Clubs of Ulster County
for thirteen years.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
I was COEO.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
I started that work because they wanted to bring more
arts programming into the clubs.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
So that started that bridge.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
That's always been my passion, So that started that bridge
right away of you know, integrating that human services work
with the arts and helping young people heal and understand
their lives and their trauma and what their future possibilities
are through the arts has always been a and helping
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our DCC community and our DCC students understand and value
their own worth and be able to move forward in
their next steps, whatever that is after they're done with
us in a more stable way.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
That is the ultimate goal.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
And being able to have those conversations and collaborate with
Thomasine and other staff in human services is just helps
bridge that gap and make that process that much stronger
for the student and give them an outlet that they
wouldn't have otherwise had, especially with performances like for Color Girls,
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you know, our first informational meeting and hearing what the
students have to say about what their black looks like
in today's world, there's still a lot of similarities between
their black, our black and what they are experiencing and
what their stumbling blocks are. So having a space where
they can say that to people that understand and have
conversation and then leave that first meeting being.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Like, wow, I already feel better.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
I'm really looking forward to continuing this conversation and having
a safe space to explore that what my blackness is.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
And that's that human services aspect, right, like creating that
safe space where they can have that dialogue, where where
there is community. And so I think that we are
starting to create more programming around that and like and
celebrating more art, like having you poet Goal come to
the campus again is like, you know, the it was
more this spoken word. It's a call to action for
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us to look inside ourselves and like go beyond those
fears and you know, and and it was a the
writing workshop was I believe was healing for many of
us participating in it. And you know, even one of
the members had said that like just sparked my love
of writing again, and now she's going back home and
she's starting to write again. And that was one of
the staff. And so it was super inspirational. And so again,
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you know, we're always looking to bridge you know, humans,
so work with the arts and you know, all of
those elements because again it all intertwines, and that's truly
that is how we do social justice and action as well,
you know, not just in you know, just in straight
education as is, but also by combining these different elements together.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
Yeah, I've always.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Believed that the social emotional learning aspect of it is
really the path to academia because if you have stuff
you you can't really uh sort of apply yourself. If
you're carrying things within yourself, it's it's becomes the clutter,
it becomes the madness, it becomes the why am I
here and what am I doing?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
You know moments.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
So it's about clearing that out for yourself, giving you
the tools to be able to do that. I use poetry,
you know, to to be able to tell people how
to show people how to be able to do that
and open that up so that they can see the path,
you know, for themselves. So that's I think that's great
that what such is doing that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
That's good, thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
You know. And Chris used the phrase they are black.
You know, I never heard that phrase. Not surprisingly, I'm
the only white person in the room when we never
heard that phrase. Let's own up to that. But it
strikes me as such a powerful phrase because it takes
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black as both a very very personal thing and also
a public and political thing, and I wonder if I
have that right? And how you know they are black?
Little black nail is being compared to black at another point,
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Yeah, I mean absolutely, I feel I feel very small.
We all know us mallanated people understand that we have
been put into a box, right and we from one side,
we're looked at as well, you're black, so this is
these are the things that go along with that. But
within that black community, there are multiple other boxes within
that community, and that's where level colorism happen. Levels of
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hierarchy or alleged hierarchy. You know, it's it goes all
the way back to the indoor slave and the outdoor slave.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Like there.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
This has always been the structure that was forced upon
us to keep us divided and to try to keep
forcing divide within our own community, because they know that
when we blend, when we bond together, when we see
our unity as one, we we are so powerful. That's
that's that's the fear, right right, that's the fear is
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that we will understand our own strength and that we
will understand our own power amongst our own people, and
that's in the broader black and brown spectrum as well.
And that's what we're seeing right now, right right across
the country, is that you know that banding together and
being able to fight fight the oppression basically.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Right right, You're absolutely right, And and the the fear
of that, you know, is that's a different for lack
of a better term, power in itself. How fear takes
over the spirit, you know, fear takes over the soul
and brings you to a place of where you're not
even rational any longer, which is just it's getting people
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to see that that the behavior and the response to
a perceived threat.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
And this is why, this is why Black Chastry Month
is important. This is why Black histream Months events are important.
Is because it's not about the conversation of, you know,
we need to have our own month.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
It's about the conversation of.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
We need to create space for people to have blended
conversations so that we know that our thoughts are valid
and are not We're not alone in how we are
viewing things like that, the way I show up in
the world and the way I'm educated and the way
I speak is similar to how other people in my
black and brown community also grew up and speak and
being able to the threads amongst all of our black right. So,
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if you don't have these opportunities to come together and
have these conversations, we feel alone, we feel isolated, we
feel on.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
Our own island.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Because that's that's the structure, that's the systemicness that's been created.
Is they want to force us to feel alone, and
so being able to come together as a community in
whatever our community is and bring in all people the
rainbow of people, then that is how we can we
can we find unity and solidary.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
And and and people within the rainbow that that may
have different exposures exactly right to.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Two other things.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I don't you know, growing up, I don't know how
many how many times I've been told, you know, you
sound white.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Right right here, right here, you know, and I'm like, well,
what exactly does that mean?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
And then it makes you self conscious or you know,
you sound you're very poised, and so it's like that's
a compliment, but then it's also like, you know, it
questions yourself like am I black enough? You know? Like
you know, and so we also came to realize that
sometimes our students feel that way, where like, you know,
do I celebrate if I'm mixed? Do I celebrate Black
(20:11):
History Month? Or do I celebrate another you know, heritage month,
Because like I don't know where I fall. And so
that's why these are so important doing these events, because
it helps them to explore their identity and to feel
comfortable with themselves. Because we're all having our own internal
struggle somewhere. All have had different experiences like that. See
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the fact that we were able to connect on that, Yes,
idly we all feel that right like yes, I've been
told like, yes, you sound white, and it's like and
you can't.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
Sound a color. I always say this, you can't sound
a color. You can?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
You know, education has no color. You can sound because
you're educated. Doesn't make you less black, because you speak
with the vocabulary and poise does not make you less black.
And that is a structure, that is a systemic oppression.
And so for us to move past that and help
our young people under stand that because in my work
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working with young people, I have seen people dumb themselves down.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
In order to fit in with it. Truly with their peers.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
It's like you do not need to not show up
for yourself. You need to run on Cepe time when
you are an anxious person that likes to get up
early and likes to be prepared and ready, and please
be on time, please.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Like this is these are things that are just structures that.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
This is language that has been put on us that
we as a society, and especially with our young people,
I feel have adopted in a way that they think
is what they have to be. And so trying to
continually have these conversations to show them that this is
what they have wanted us to be.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
But us being poised.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
And speaking clearly and showing up and fighting is what.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
We are supposed to do. This is where we're supposed
to be. We did not get this.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Far by being quiet, right, absolutely, if you're just tuning in,
you're listening to finding out with Pete and the poet
Gold and the poet Goal that we're here with Anne
Chris Warren instructive theater and dance, and Thomasine Aleiphant instructive
human services and the coaching of the Diversity.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Council, and you know, it's so much fun for me
to be here, not only fun but also learning because
white people are not in on that conversation. Like people
the world I come from, I don't hear question things
like people have basically accused me of Saturday into white
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And for you to respond that way, it gives, you know,
white people an insight into the tremendous diversity among black
people as well as a unity. And yeah, when you
were talking about bringing people together and thought, that's what
education is. Yeah, this is why Judges Community College really
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has a program going on day afterday but also this
month especially, it is just good education. And you know
what I'd also like to say is, you know, we
want to maintain the categories of being black and being
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black in different ways, but also being white. Like I
very joy never think of myself as white. I mean
what I think myself is normal? Okay, well, which is
and that's an offensive thing. You know, I'm normal and
everyone who's not me is not normal. But that's the
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way it is. And you know, when you're black and
you want to be black and specific to who you are,
I can see why that would be a struggle.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
So I want to want to talk a little bit
about your experiences on campus.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
When did you get to d CC.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
I've been adjucting at d c C.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
I started about seven years ago and I just came
on full time this past year twenty twenty five and
in the theater program, specifically in the theater program, okay
specifically what took some so long? I had time job elsewhere. Yeah,
I'm blessed. I'm blessed to be there full time.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
I'm very excited.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
And I previously I was back at DCC. I think
it was like twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. I was a
first student resource navigator on campus and so I worked
on the student services side, and then I left went
worked in Ulster County. Then I came back as a
tenure track professor for human Services. So I've been in
the role for about four years now.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
And the and the Diversity Council is a.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Is a new Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
So I I was appointed by doctor Peter Grant Jordan
for as the co chair of the Diversity Council. This
is my third year in the role.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
Your coach here, who's the other Oh.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
My, my awesome colleague Stephen Posada.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Is that is that who I met yesterday and he.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Is the coordinator of EOP and he also got he
is one of the Hispanic Leadership Institute Sunny Leadership fellow.
So I just want to give him a shout out.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You know, following up my point about white people conceiving
of themselves as normal, you know, and I understand how
peculiar that is, you know, besides being offensive, it's peculiar.
But I used to write for the Petepsie Journal a lot,
and if I describe somebody as white, they would edit
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it out because of course it you know, if I
referred to somebody as why, they would say that's significant.
But I always felt that it was offensive, even even
to me. You know, people calls the dominant fact that
in American life, and you can only you have normal
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and not normal? What's it the institutions are trying to do?
So it's different.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
It is different.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
So what type of programming up ahead do you think
that you guys will be putting together, not necessarily for
Black History Month, but just in the construct of DCC itself.
Have you laid out a track for that, a plan
in the diversity.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
For further programming. Yeah, we're just continuing, just building upon
our momentum. We don't have anything coming up. We do
have a woman's wellness market that's going to be happening
for Women's History Month. This is led by awesome Heather
and Pitcher, who we are collaborating with. She is the
executive director and founder of the Brain and Body Coalition
(26:43):
that focuses on mental.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Health education really for the BIPO population.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
So this is going to be a wellness market that's
happening on Sunday, March twenty second, from one to five
pm in the green Span Dining Hall at Dutchess Community
College and bring a whole bunch of women and minority
owned businesses.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
It's open into all businesses, but.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
We have a a slew of vendors that are going
to be marketing their wellness products and so we're just
uplifting our women's business community.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So that's another event that's going to be happening.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
And is that open to the public, Yes, Open into
the public, yes, yes, So we're going to have that
coming out. So we're are working on our Women's History
Month now and that's going to be upcoming programming and
we have, you.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
Know, in the final performa Arts department.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
We constantly are focusing on how to include diversity and
commentary on what's happening in the world. So for we
do a large dance showcase every year. I teach the
performance that applied dance class that is basically the showcase,
and I created a theme that's called what we Carry
a Collective Dance Experience, and it is the piece. The
(27:56):
entire piece is all about social justice and it has
different social justice areas that are going to be discussed
through movement, and it culminates with there's a large choral
piece called seven Last Words of the Unarmed, which is
a fourteen minute choral piece with seven different movements that
(28:16):
is using the last words of Eric Garner and TREMC
Martin and others.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
It's beautiful piece.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
And so that's the last piece of our showcase. That
will be all done through movement with a collaboration of
five different choreographers doing different different sections of that piece.
And then earlier in the showcase there's other sections that
there's commentary on women's rights, is commentary on immigration.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
So all done.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Through movement with my voice, but also a lot of
student voice, a lot of student choreographers and some guest choreographers.
So that will be April twenty fifth, that Saturday evening
at seven pm and there's also an afternoon one on
April twenty third at twelve thirty pm, and those are
in the James and Betty Hall Theater at Dutchess Community College.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
I don't have to say.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Glued to your website. We will make sure you guys
have all our updates.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Excell And you know in the minute left you so
I me underlining my white confession punctuated the I want
to say it might be the same thing. How much
I didn't know that was going on to touch this
and how great it is. And anybody listening to this show,
it's a podcast, you can listen to it again because
(29:32):
you want to get the information of these women and
what's going on in touch this Community College. And we
have fourteen seconds left, and let me just say repeat myself.
You're doing a great job educationally and all specifically for
the entire community. So thanks for being with us.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Thank you, thank you, and Chris and thomasin thank you
so much for showing up for finding out with peating
the Poet Gold to our listeners, we appreciate you have
a wonderful weekend on Poet Gold
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